Game 103: Yankees at White Sox
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2009 
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YANKEES (62-40)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hinske LF
Pitching: RHP Sergio Mitre (1-0, 5.91).
WHITE SOX (52-51)
Podsednik CF
Beckham 3B
Thome DH
Konerko 1B
Pierzynski C
Quentin LF
Kotsay RF
Nix SS
Getz 2B
Pitching: RHP D.J. Carrasco (3-1, 3.58).
TIME/TV: 8:11, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are 2-2 on their nine-game road trip and 3-3 in their last six games. They lead Boston by 2.5 games in the American League East after last night’s 3-2 walk-off win by the White Sox.
MORE MITRE: This will be Mitre’a third start since being called up. He has not been especially impressive, allowing 17 hits and seven earned runs over 10.2 innings.
WELCOME BACK: Shelley Duncan joins the club from Triple-A Scranton. He had a .911 OPS there in 90 games, hitting 25 home runs and driving in 75 runs. He also had 14 doubles. He has 57 games of major-league experience with the Yankees, hitting .221 with eight homers in 131 at-bats.
START ME UP: Yankee starters have a 2.61 ERA since the All-Star break.
CABRERA COMES ON: Melky is 5 of 14 on the road trip and 10 of his last 22 overall with four extra-base hits.
RISP REPORT: The Yankees are 8 of 37 (,216) with runners in scoring position on the road trip.
SLOPPY PLAY: The Yankees have committed seven errors in the last seven games.
MISSING IN ACTION: Alfredo Aceves (shoulder) has pitched once since July 21.
SORRY TO SEE IT GO: The Yankees are 18-8 in July.
STREAKING:Nick Swisher has a six-game hit streak, which for him is DiMaggio like. … Johnny Damon has drawn a walk in six straight.
MO-MENTOUS: Mariano Rivera has not allowed a run in his last 16.2 innings. He has converted 25 straight save chances.
Back with more later on.
UPDATE, 5:00 p.m.: Albaladejo optioned … Hairston will not get here today. … Shelley will wear 28.
UPDATE, 5:23 p.m.: Clayton Richard, Chicago’s scheduled starter, was traded to San Diego in the Peavy deal. Carrasco starts in his place.
UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: It could be one and done for Shelley. Sounds like the Yankees may keep Ransom and Hairston to expand roster versatility. Girardi talked about being able to use them both. Interesting.
UPDATE, 7:07 p.m.: Jerry Hairston on the trade to the Yankees:
“Whatever they ask me to do, I’ll do it. I can play anywhere. I’m a little shocked right now. I feel a closeness with these guys. At the same time, I’m going to New York where we have a chance to win.”
UPDATE, 7:46 p.m.: Duncan has options and Ransom does not, which could dictate the roster move tomorrow.
UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: Based on a few conversations in the last 20 minutes, the Mariners wanted Austin Jackson for Jarrod Washburn. The Yankees weren’t going there. Halladay was never an option based on the money left on his contract and the price in prospects. Obviously every team felt the same way as he was never moved.
The Yankees are hopeful — confident, even — that they can get a No. 5 starter via trade in August. That process starts on Monday as players can be put on waivers.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: We’re underway at U.S. Cellular Field. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: Just a hunch, but Sergio Mitre is not going the distance. Meanwhile, why does every Yankees pitcher slip on the grass here? Brian Bruney slipped last year and blew out his foot. Then Andy Pettitte last night and now Mitre.
3-1 Yankees but the Chisox have the bases loaded and nobody out.
UPDATE, 8:56 p.m.: Melky throws to third, which allowed Podesdnik to tag up from first and get in scoring position. Now a single gives the White Sox the lead. You have to know the score and situation.
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: There you go, Thome singles and Chicago leads because Melky wanted to show off his arm instead of making the right play.
UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: Mitre has allowed 23 hits in 12.2 innings this season.
UPDATE, 9:31 p.m.: Well, we did it. John Sterling said “Hinke with your best shot” thanks to the contest we had on this blog to find a good home run call. How great is that?
Thanks, Mr. Sterling. And great job by Manger, the reader who came up with it.
Yankees tie it, 5-5.
UPDATE, 10:32 p.m.: Down 6-5 in the bottom of the seventh. Yankees have not been able to get to the White Sox bullpen. They have six outs left to get something going.
UPDATE, 10:40 p.m.: Johnny Damon is never the most elegant player on the field. But you can never question his desire or his hustle. That catch may have saved this game.
UPDATE, 10:53 p.m.: So let’s see, Mitre is the No. 5 starter and Aceves is the reliever who get stretched out to become the No. 5 starter. Not good.
The Yankees need another starter, that’s for certain. The question is who and how at this point. Could it actually get to Kei Igawa?
UPDATE, 11:18 p.m.: Wow, it’s rare when A-Rod makes a base-running mistake. It’s more unusual when he doesn’t hustle. He was guilty of both there. Yankees have played two clunkers in a row.
Back later with reaction from the clubhouse.
sox need a new starter tonight…richard is in the peavy deal
We didn’t get [INSERT NAME HERE] anyone.
Clayton Richard was just traded…. next!
Looks like we will be facing a different starter tonight as it appears Richard was dealt for Peavy.
Richard will not be starting, just traded.
Thanks goodness for a clean thread!!!
Last call for “Guess the Line Ups”
No line ups after 4:40!!!!!
Here’s who is in for today’s thrilling round-
Bill
Ramey
The Blogger Formerly Known as Dan, RayVT (same)
Andrew, William Buckner (same)
Mark H, Robbykid (same)
Hokiehill
Upstate Kate
Anthony5
Rebecca
Roger Maris
DurhamYankee, Largo (same)
Henner
Dan the Man
Bmgyanksfan
Patrick the Prospect Hugger
I farted
Nick
richard go traded
OH MY GOD!!!!!!
The Yankees are playing all TBA’s tonight, does that mean they made a bunch of trades at the deadline?
Peavy has not okayed it yet
heres my guess…
jeter SS
swisher RF
teix 1B
A-rod 3B
posada C
matsui DH
cano 2B
shelly LF
melky CF
What is the roster move for Duncan? CMW to the 60 day? Alby back to minors?
lol so much for that starter cross him of the list do they move up tomorrow’s starter?
Richard is gone
I am the starting pitcher for Chicago tonight
Btw- If Shelly Duncan is not in the line up 75% of you are wrong. If Hinske never plays, why are you all so sure Duncan will??
That’s good that Richard got traded. His numbers over his past couple starts were good.
Go easy on us Erica
Erica – always OPPC
July 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I am the starting pitcher for Chicago tonight
Btw- If Shelly Duncan is not in the line up 75% of you are wrong. If Hinske never plays, why are you all so sure Duncan will??
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Against all these TBA’s, you better bring your best heat if you want to survive…
peavy did approve it
Peavy approved the deal via MLBTR
Too bad this trade wasn’t consummated earlier. Would’ve loved to face Peavy.
Speaking of, did Peavy approve the deal? snicker.
They keep saying he got traded again. What happened the first time?
Peavy’s agent reportedly said that the deal was approved.
Someone needs to drop off the 25 man if Duncan is added.
“Too bad this trade wasn’t consummated earlier. Would’ve loved to face Peavy.”
Peavy’s on the DL
“If Hinske never plays, why are you all so sure Duncan will??”
Good point.
Jon Heyman reports Peavy deal is done and approved.
Any word on Richard’s replacement?
jeter ss
damon lf
tex 1b
arod 3b
matsui dh
posada c
cano 2b
swisher rf
melky cf
So could Cashman unload Kei Igawa before the deadline this year? If so, please don’t let it be for Carl Pavano!
Patrick
July 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Go easy on us Erica
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I am a “Guess the Line Up” tormentor!!! I just hate awarding wins to Joe Girardi!! LOL
Erica-
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Shelly RF
Melky CF
This game (and Sunday’s) are on WGN America if you are outside the Tri-State Area.
i cant believe they’d drop anyone off the 25 to make room for 4a shelley. nice enough guy, but i would trade him for a couple of bags of balls except that woulndt be nice to the scranton fans. i think they have a move to be made with nady going from the 15 day to the 60 day though.
Erica,
how come you never post a lineup as part of the game? I didn’t see anywhere in your rules that the creator can’t be a participator
Uh-oh. We might face Peavy in this series.
Erica
is so cute when she says I farted.
if the Sox plug in a righty my lineup is done…
“Uh-oh. We might face Peavy in this series.”
That’s gonna be hard to do considering that Peavy is on the DL.
Is anyone else happy that the trade deadline is finally over?!?!? Like someone else said earlier, you’d think we were 11 games out in 4th place with all the crying, hand wringing, and teeth gnashing up to today. So we only made a deal for depth. Shouldn’t that tell you that maybe our holes were lesser than the Sox/Angels/anyone else who traded for a name today?
“I am a “Guess the Line Up” tormentor!!! I just hate awarding wins to Joe Girardi!! LOL”
I meant, go easy on us when you are starting tonight
I think Cashman all along has been most interested in Justin Duchscherer. There was no need to trade for him today since he’s on the DL, but all indications are he should be able to pitch this year.
Rather than way overpaying for Washburn, take a flyer on Duchshcerer…works for me.
“Btw- If Shelly Duncan is not in the line up 75% of you are wrong. If Hinske never plays, why are you all so sure Duncan will??”
It was the lefty/righty thing…but that may be out the window.
Ramey – Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL
July 31st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Erica,
how come you never post a lineup as part of the game? I didn’t see anywhere in your rules that the creator can’t be a participator
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I think I am afraid my own submission would influence other submissions.
Btw- Mr. I farted,
You don’t know it, but I growl at you everytime I type your name
Good trade for the Yankees. Sox lose their starter
“if the Sox plug in a righty my lineup is done…”
Guarantee if the white sox throw us against a righty NOW is when Hinske will play and 90% of us will feel like dolts for putting shelley in the lineup.
This proves it. Look at the impact shelley’s bat has on the team?? The white sox are so scared of facing him tonight, they traded their starting pitcher
Very weird trade for the W.Sox. At earliest he won’t be back until late Sept. So they basically got him for next season and the future. I don’t think a lot of GM’s would make that deal.
“I think Cashman all along has been most interested in Justin Duchscherer. ”
How come you think so?
Patrick
July 31st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
“I am a “Guess the Line Up” tormentor!!! I just hate awarding wins to Joe Girardi!! LOL”
I meant, go easy on us when you are starting tonight
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No worries. I am pretty sure if I threw a ball from the mound it would land halfway between the mound and home plate. I sort of throw like a girl. LOL
You know what will cure everyones Tradeline blues !!..
A Yankee win !.. it’ll be like ice cream when your tummy hurts when you eat too much !
Respects to the experts, but I think Peavy to the White Sox is the biggest deal of the deadline.
Oh the dramatics!
Btw- “Guess the Line Up” is now over as we wait for a winner.
24 of you sent me 20 different line ups (Yanksfan, just in time). Thanks to all who participated.
No “Guess the Line Up” Monday due to the offday. The game resumes 2pm Tuesday
Just a little end of season prediction:
If the Yanks go on to reach the postseason, everything will be okey dokey with the GM and Manager, as far as the Steinbrenners are concerned. If they don’t make the World Series, it will be a disappointment obviously, but no heads will roll.
However…….
If the Yanks do not make the postseason this year, after all the trust they placed in Cashman and Girardi to know what they were doing by keeping all the prospects and not making a blockbuster trade for someone like a Halladay, then you can say goodbye to Cashman, Girardi, and anyone else affiliated with the “don’t trade our young players” decision at the trade deadline. Steinbrenners are good owners, they care about putting a winning team on the field, but what they have never been is patient. They want to win now, and so do most of us, but unlike them most of us are willing to be patient.
I personally don’t think Girardi and Cashman should be fired if they don’t make the postseason this year, but how many of you would bet their next months salary that they would keep their jobs? Not me.
interesting illustration of how a guy can go from mega-prospect status to nobody in a short time. casey kotchman was a such a hot property that the angels at first wouldnt give him up in the teixeira trade. they only justified it by saying they had every intention of re-signing tex to a long term contract .
now kotchman’s star has fallen so far that the socks picked him up to be the b/u first baseman/defensive replacement and only gave up another spare part (laroche) to get him.
Pepitone
Chill out.
The Yankees should make the playoffs with the team they have. If they collapse, then the ownership can take a good look at the GM and manager…
someone had asked… they moved wang to 60 day DL for shelly to come up.
This Peavy trade smells of a “Let me do something so that I can say that I did something” trade to me. Very similar to the Griffey trade last year. Kenny Williams is a weird bird.
“Uh-oh. We might face Peavy in this series.”
That’s gonna be hard to do considering that Peavy is on the DL.
Yeah, I just found that out.
“I think Cashman all along has been most interested in Justin Duchscherer. ”
How come you think so?
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trade rumors on ESPNInsider has been running that theory for a few weeks. The Yanks have scouted his rehab appearances, and evidently his performance hasn’t deterred their interest.
He’s coming off TJ surgery, so it’s certainly risky. The upside is the A’s won’t be looking for top-level talent.
Odd that Peavy would approve a deal now when he didn’t back then……and that the Sox would do it when he’s still on the DL and not expected back for awhile
I’m leaving for the game in 1.5 hours. Woohoo!
Im tired and ate too much.
I think Im going to sleep on the Schilling for a few hours after I drop a Buchholz!!!
kotch does have a good glove tho. I will give him that. In the end, I still think we win the division. Should be a sprint to the end, however.
Someone needs to go down. Alby?
According to the Yankees press release e-mail I just got Jerry Hairston jr is batting .353 over his last 7 games. I am mighty impressed now
The White Sox gave up a little more for Peavy this time around.
Plus, back then, he wasn’t coming off a serious injury.
there is at least a little more risk this time, even if small
Rebecca, do you know the line up yet? I sort of want to leave work early
If I’m Halladay, I’m pissed as hell at JP Riccardi. He makes the guy’s life a living hell for over a month and at the end of it, he’s still in TOR.
“The Yankees should make the playoffs with the team they have. If they collapse, then the ownership can take a good look at the GM and manager…”
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Uh, that’s just what I said.
My opinion, if the Yankees do collapse, then I still don’t think they should fire Cashman, or Girardi, but I’m guessing they will.
Pepitone, the Jays made it impossible to do business with them. Trading prospects is one thing, trading Joba or Hughes, plus Montero, Jackson, etc….. would have been ridiculous, even for Roy Halladay.
Kay and La Greca talking about moving the trade deadline back – it makes sense, with more teams in the post-season hunt (due to the wild card)
Whats pitchers can make it thru waviers?
“If I’m Halladay, I’m pissed as hell at JP Riccardi. He makes the guy’s life a living hell for over a month and at the end of it, he’s still in TOR.”
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Halladay could have made it easier if he said he didn’t care where he was traded.
The Twins asked but Halladay didn’t want to go there.
So he can’t really complain.
I had a feeling Halladay wasn’t moving. The people who are “certain to be moved” almost never are
I wanted Zach Duke but I guess Cash thought it was going to cost too much.
Maybe the Hairston move means that Cash has finally seen that Arod needs more DH/time off. Sun. would make sense since they have Mon. off, so they can give him 2 days.
“Whats pitchers can make it thru waviers?”
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prob quite a few.
problem is, Sox might want some too.
Kay also saying that the Yankees do not have enough because of Joba’s innings limits and also because Andy is a 6 inning pitcher at this point (and did not actually win his last couple of starts….huh?). I think the Yankees will skip Joba a few times rather than removing him from the rotation……
What a trade deadline! I was laughing incredibly hard when Halladay wasn’t traded. Didn’t suspect Peavy to get trade. Red Sox getting VIctor Martinez was pretty obvious. It just makes them deeper. Yankees getting Jerry Hariston Jr. was a surprise, I was suspecting them to get a reliever and slot Aceves in the rotation, maybe. But thats another matter to discuss later. Big trade deadline. Surprise,surprise.
betsy
July 31st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Pepitone, the Jays made it impossible to do business with them. Trading prospects is one thing, trading Joba or Hughes, plus Montero, Jackson, etc….. would have been ridiculous, even for Roy Halladay.
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Betsy, I agree with everything you said.
I believe with all my heart that what Cashman is doing is the right move, however, will the Steinbrenners? They’re the ones that make the final decisions up there, not us.
What I’m saying is, I hope the Yanks do make the postseason, because if they don’t Cashman and Girardi will probably be gone, and for me, that’s a mistake.
Rotoworld on Casey Kotchman:
“LaRoche had to go to open up a spot for Victor Martinez, but it’s hard to see how the Red Sox are going to make room for Kotchman unless they decide to jettison George Kottaras and go with Martinez and Jason Varitek as their only catchers. Regardless of how they make it work, it’s a really nice pickup for the Red Sox. Kotchman is just 26 and he has some quality seasons in his future. He’s not going to be a free agent until after 2011, and the Red Sox shouldn’t have any problem carrying him as a $3.5 million role player next year.”
So I guess you can be traded if you are on the DL.
Umm- who has the real line up for tonight???
Sorry people, but there is no way I am staying past 5 for “Guess the Line Up”
I will award a winner later during the game if the line up is not posted very soon
The Boston Socks are still weak at SS. Nick Green is tired after playing more games so far this year than ever before in his career. Lowrie is a lightweight.
Does Smoltz cover Masterson’s innings in the bullpen ?
So, after all the panic from some on here, what did the Sox do?
Got Martinez and Kotchman. Marginal upgrades given that Victor hasn’t hit for 2 months, is a terrible defensive catcher, and a below average first baseman.
Kotchman and LaRoche are the same player.
I know some on here will now believe both players are better than they are.
However, the Sox would have been better if they got Doc or Gonzalez.
Looks like the training wheels will now come off Joba.
If he keeps pitching like he has, no reason to baby him.
All in all, not a bad day for the Yankees.
No panic moves for the sake of making moves.
The Yankees gave up next to nothing in Chase Weems for Hairston. NYY needed a major utility player and they got it. Hairston is what they’re hoping Pena would become. He plays well everywhere, hits well and runs the bases. Weems is not much of a hitter and not that good on defense. One of the more expendable players in the system.
Corasco starting tonight for the white sox
DJ Carrasco is starting tonight for the W.Sox…
RHP 40k in 60innings.. 3.58ERA …a reliever
According to MLB Network, Yankees facing D.J. Carrasco tonight
Hinske has great numbers off him and so does tex
Victor Martinez has hit about .192 over the past 10 weeks
(since May 23)
D.J. Carrasco covers the start of the departed Richard tonight for the White Sox.
Ledger_Yankees: Jeter 6, Swisher 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 5, Matsui 0, Posada 2, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hinske 9, Mitre 1. –Carig
BryanHoch Albaladejo is the roster move for Duncan. Hairston not expected to join Yankees today.
Hoch says:
Jeter
Swisher (LF)
Tex
A-Rod
MAtsui
Posada
Cano
Cabrera
Hinske (RF)
BryanHoch: Albaladejo is the roster move for Duncan. Hairston not expected to join Yankees today.
“If I’m Halladay, I’m pissed as hell at JP Riccardi. He makes the guy’s life a living hell for over a month and at the end of it, he’s still in TOR.”
I wasn’t to keen on getting Halladay on the Yankees,but if the price went down a little bit more,then I think we should have made a more serious run for him. I still can’t believe he didn’t get moved. Riccardi had his chance and he flogged it.
DJ Carrasco = no Shelley Duncan = a loss for me in the lineup guessing game
SA- Thank you
Once again, Joe Girardi has eluded everyone and there is no winner for “Guess the Line Up”
Please go home and practice your line up making skills over the weekend.
Please tune in Tuesday at 2 for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
RHP D. J. Carrasco will start tonight for the White Sox in Clayton Richard’s spot.
RHP D. J. Carrasco will start tonight for the White Sox in Clayton Richard’s spot.
D.J. Carrasco is a RHP. Time to amend your lineups, people?
Erica: I stepped out for a moment, sorry!
I hope Melky wasn’t out late last night since he’s flanked in the OF by Swish and Hinske…LOL
SJ, What will be the new ceiling on Joba now ??? Are you going to Cominsky again tonight ????
“Looks like the training wheels will now come off Joba.
If he keeps pitching like he has, no reason to baby him.”
Are you saying that there are no innings limits on him the rest of the way?
Because if there are, the Yankees will need another starter at some point in September.
I really wanted Doc…but knew it was not going to happen due to the players that JP wanted. However, I thought Cash would have brought in some type of arm for the stretch run.
The best thing to happen was Doc not going to Boston.
Peavy is like Sabathia in some ways. Both a really good pitchers especially during the regular season but aren’t as great during the postseason. I hope Sabathia changes that pattern like Roger Clemens did with the yankees because before his stint with the yankees he wasn’t that good in the postseason.
I think Joba’s innings limit is higher than reported.
Andy pitched into the 7th last night and was pretty damn good.
Who are Sox innings eaters? Lester and Beckett. That’s it.
Wake is hurt and the other 3 guys have been awful.
You know what’s worse than making no deal?
Making a BAD deal. Something the Yankees avoided today.
as i mentioned in the previous thread, I think the Yankees have relaxed their innings limit rules with Joba.
If they were so concerned about him keeping his innings down then why is pitching into the 8th inning like he did the other night against Tampa Bay?
I am leaving work now. See you all later!!!
Once again, Joe Girardi wins “Guess the Line Up”
Wonder if Paul Maholms makes it thru waviers has 11 million and 2 years left in his deal….middle of the road innings eater
Carrasco hasn’t pitched more than 3 innings all season. So the W.Sox will definitely be using their bullpen tonight. Hopefully the Yanks can get him out quickly and they can use up some of their bullpen for the series.
So what do we think the Hairston move is? DFA Ransom or send Shelley back down?
It was obvious from day 1 the Yanks wouldn’t get Halladay.
I did think they’d make a move for a pitcher – my guess is we tried but had no near-major-league ready starting pitcher to give back, didn’t want to trade the top tier prospects and other teams weren’t enthused by the relievers and second tier prospects we did offer.
V-Mart will help the Sox now and next year – they’ve been looking for a catcher to replace Varitek eventually and now they have one cheap.
The yanks still do have an innings limit for Joba. They will start skipping his starts in late august and september when they have off days so he doesn’t reach those innings.
lol at espn news showing Victor Martinez then having the watermark saying Ortiz tested Positive
Laura my guess is Ransom stays, Shelley goes.
Believe me, ESPN and cohorts will be praising the Sox to high heaven. They did get the bat they needed, though.
SJ, you don’t think the Yanks will skip some of Joba’s starts?
Jeter SS
Swisher LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cabrera C
Hinske LF
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So we have two catchers, two lf, no cf and no 2nd baseman. boy joe put out a great line up!
This from Feinsand on twitter…
Lineup was incorrectly posted… Damon instead of Swisher
Well the best I can say is that I guessed well since nobody knows what trades will or will not be made. I guessed from jump street that Doc would stay with the Jays. Nothing more than a good guess that worked out.
The big difference I see between some of us who weren’t really jonesing either way and some of you who have been bouncing off walls is this: we would have been fine with whatever the Yankees ended up doing, including making trades you felt were critical to life. I guess that’s because we feel pretty good about the way they’ve handled things thus far. The wall bouncers don’t show the ability to be equally magnanamous. Thus it appears you are convinced that you know better than the organization and since they didn’t do it your way, it’s curtains.
Might I suggest you take a few steps back and a few deep breaths here? Good lord you’re nothing more than a fan watching the game, same as all of us who post here. I’m not trying to put down your desire to bring players to the team as much as I am trying to suggest that the Yankees know better than all of us what they will need, what pieces they already have, what they absolutely can and will not part with for the health of the future of the Yankees, and what they see coming up down the pike. Relax and try to enjoy what is going on.
Think of it this way. Some posters have kvetched and vomitted continually and the Yankees made it to first place despite your unhappiness. Isn’t it possible they will continue to thrive even thought it might not be the way you have envisioned they should do it?
If Doc didn’t want to go to MIN, his list of teams that he would approve a trade to must have been very short. MIN is a decent team. The AL Central is such that they could win it. I think Doc wanted either us, LAA or BOS.
Lineup correction: Damon instead of Swishy
“I believe with all my heart that what Cashman is doing is the right move, however, will the Steinbrenners? They’re the ones that make the final decisions up there, not us.”
Hal seems like he’s a lot more patient than George ever was. They know Cashman has a long term plan and they’re sticking with it.
Okay the Reds are at home, and Chicago is very close to Cinncy. Why can’t he make it in time for the game? Or at least arrive when the game starts?
Laura – Release the list!!
July 31st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
So what do we think the Hairston move is? DFA Ransom or send Shelley back down?
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Ransom will be gone. There’s no longer a need for him with Hairston.
Hey guys, FWIW, Feinsand’s saying lineup is incorrect and Damon instead of Swisher
SJ, do you think there was a Yankee tax going on? I mean, Montero/Jackson for Washburn? I don’t know what the Royals were asking for Bannister, but if they were like every other team, probably Joba and/or Hughes. I see on my other board, NYYFans, they are all hating on Cash. I’m disappointed he couldn’t get anything done, but I’m sure it’s not for lack of trying; he can’t hold a gun to the team’s heads and force them to accept what he’s willing to give up.
The scouts I was with last night feel Joba’s innings limit is closer to 160 than 130.
They also believe innings limits are ridiculous so, TWIW. Lol
Pat M,
No. We are throwing a party for some friends at an Italian Restaurant in gown.
We will be at the game tomorrow.
Sweeny says that Albaladejo was sent down for Duncan. It looks like Melancon has lasted one more day…
“If I’m Halladay, I’m pissed as hell at JP Riccardi. He makes the guy’s life a living hell for over a month and at the end of it, he’s still in TOR.”
And they trade Rollen.
“Ransom will be gone. There’s no longer a need for him with Hairston.”
I kinda feel bad for Ransom, but he really didn’t belong with the big club.
I’m going to the game.
If the Sox need a pitcher I can fill in ….softballs 1-9!!!
Go Yanks
“No. We are throwing a party for some friends at an Italian Restaurant in gown.”
You and your pals are going out in gowns? Pretty cool – can you post some photos?
I agree with SJ.
The training wheels will come off Joba but with some caution as long as the bullpen is holding up.
Joba now has to know what his value is with the Halladay rumors out of the way.
If Joba gives 6 innings of a quality start, he’s done his job.
“SJ, do you think there was a Yankee tax going on? ”
I do. I said it a few threads earlier. All of the teams want the Yankees to pay top dollar yet they accept chump change from everyone else (save BOS, but to a lesser extent). It’s the price you pay for being the best!
Where is Cano??
I can hear Susan Waldman exclaiming now…
“Of all the dramatic things! Jerry Hairston Jr. is in George Steinbrenner’s box! Oh my goodness gracious!”
SJ44
July 31st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
The scouts I was with last night feel Joba’s innings limit is closer to 160 than 130.
They also believe innings limits are ridiculous so, TWIW. Lol
Pat M,
No. We are throwing a party for some friends at an Italian Restaurant in ***gown***.
We will be at the game tomorrow
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Will you be wearing a little black strapless number or a beaded full length gown with gloves?
““No. We are throwing a party for some friends at an Italian Restaurant in gown.”
You and your pals are going out in gowns? Pretty cool – can you post some photos?”
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LOL
LOL @ Girardi on wfan he just said he could play both Hairston and Ransom against a lefty.
Joba is at 110 innings right now. if he averages 6 innings per start, that means he 8 games left in the season.
Really?
The Yanks will shut him down at the of September and keep him from pitching in the post season???
so we have no 2B, 2 Catchers and 2 LF?
“LOL @ Girardi on wfan he just said he could play both Hairston and Ransom against a lefty.”
I’ll avoid the game thread the day that happens.
I’d almost rather have nobody than Cano at 2B
Hazel Mae with this exclusive: Roy Halladay is ‘on site’ in Oakland, jogging with i-pod and wearing dark sunglasses.
Good job, Hazel Mae.
Cincy is just a short flight to Chicago. Hairston could join the team tonight.
Whoa, aren’t we gonna be a little empty up the middle with no Canó at 2b?
Torre is not nearly the manager Giarardi is. Why didn’t Joe ever think of using the 8 player line up!?! Genious, get ARod and Tex more ABs.
So it will be like last night when there was no 2B when Thome was up?
How do you pitch to 2 catchers?
Joe Girardi has officially lost his mind.
I don’t think there was a Yankee tax going on.
Everybody was asking for the moon for their players and were looking to dump money.
Victor Martinez is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball.
If he doesn’t hit, the Sox have big money tied into a guy showing real signs of decline.
That was their worst case, rather than best case, deal they were looking to make.
They are hoping he will hit now that he is out of a bad situation in Cleveland.
We shall see.
Zero to 3 year service time players are the new high currenency in the game.
This trade deadline reflected that thinking in the way everybody held onto their best prospects.
One interesting deal today was the Rockies’ acquisition of relief pitcher Joe Beimel. I think this makes it easier for them to trade Huston Street in the offseason…or in a waiver deal if the Rockies fall out of the wildcard race.
We’re so good now, we only need 8 batters per game!
Paul T
July 31st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Paul is Harrison an upgrade over Ransom???
Washburn sucked last year and Seattle wanted Hughes for him. This year they asked for Gardner & Melky. Then wanted Joba or Hughes. The Yanks countered, but Seattle didn’t respond. Washburn is a flyball pitcher in a big stadium. He would be torched in Yankee Stadium and in Boston. He isn’t a good fit in Yankee Stadium. The price was too much.
Harrison can fill in at CF if Melky gets hurt or needs a break until Gardner gets back. I like his versatility and he can hit and steal a lot of bases.
That said, I am disappointed in not getting another pitcher. But if getting a pitcher was going to cost us a pitcher, then I’m glad we stayed
Rocco July 31st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
How do you pitch to 2 catchers?
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maybe it’s the same plate umpire as yesterday so they’ll have Mitre pitch to whichever one is furthest from the hitter
Alan
July 31st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Cincy is just a short flight to Chicago. Hairston could join the team tonight.
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That’s not a guarentee and Hairston would have to be on the roster before gametime.
I know Melky has a strong arm, but catcher?
“Yankee sources” have been quoted for a few weeks using the 160 IP number for Joba, so I suspect that is their thinking now. My guess is it ends up a little higher than that unless the Yanks run away with it.
Melky trying some catching tonight, eh Pete?
Bryan Hoch has the lineup up on his twitter…please go see it so the 8 player jokes can stop! Make it stop!
So wait, we have two catchers, no 2B and no CF tonight. What, does Girardi expect the ChiSox to bunt every time up?
Damn I-Phone has a mind of it’s own at times.
Town not Gown. I wouldn’t want the smell of garlic messing up my gowns.
“So wait, we have two catchers, no 2B and no CF tonight. What, does Girardi expect the ChiSox to bunt every time up?”
It’s about time Girardi doesn’t go with his by the book managing.
Imagine Hairston, Ransom & Molina in the same lineup?
LoHud armageddon.
“Bryan Hoch has the lineup up on his twitter…please go see it so the 8 player jokes can stop! Make it stop!”
I thought that some of the jokes were funny.
Pete is going to play 2nd base and RF.
I’m going to attempt what Pete should have posted:
ss jeter
lf damon
1b teixiera
3b rogriguez
dh matsui
c posada
2b cano
cf cabrera
rf hinske
Pete Abe’s blog mentioned on WFAN when JG asked about stretching Hughes’ innings, didn’t really answer the question though.
SJ44
July 31st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Damn I-Phone has a mind of it’s own at times.
Town not Gown. I wouldn’t want the smell of garlic messing up my gowns.
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Just don’t wear one to the game. You’ll stick out like a sore thumb in a gown….unless, of course, it’s a ball gown.
is this bring your friend to work day for johnny and jorgie?
“Zero to 3 year service time players are the new high currenency in the game.”
Agreed with one caveat. I think it’s players with some major league success/experience but less than 3 years.
It’s not even “prospects” people want first and foremost.
It’s not simply minor leaguers that are the reserve currency.
It’s players in the majors who have less than three years service time. Players who can “step in” immediately.
That’s a tough currency to give up.
So teams settle for Luke French.
“Just don’t wear one to the game. You’ll stick out like a sore thumb in a gown….unless, of course, it’s a ball gown.”
Maybe SJ gets together with Swish and Shelley and they’ll throw a toga party Animal House style!
Maybe Cashman thought he was getting Scott Hairston?
Man, is he going to be surprised.
“Oops, my bad.”
carrasco has been a 1/2 inning pitcher this year….work the count yanks!
2 catchers and no 2b.
bad couple of days w/ an ugly loss last night, and also Boston getting Victor Martinez today… Need a win tonight to get the good feelin’ back
sj- best italian rest in chicago is mia francesca on clark
“UPDATE, 5:23 p.m.: Clayton Richard, Chicago’s scheduled starter, was traded to San Diego in the Peavy deal. Carrasco starts in his place.”
Pete, this happened like an hour ago. Where were u?
I will say this. The Red Sox did not fix the back end of their rotation which is a glaring issue. None of their 3, 4, 5, guys have gone more five innings, and it’s starting to affect their bullpen. I think there back end of the rotation is going to come back to haunt them. Chamberlain is better then Clay, and Andy is better then Smoltz/Penny. Smoltz is really old and coming off shoulder surgery, and Penny is washed up and coming off shoulder surgery.
After reading a lot of the post on the trade issue. I’m just glad 95 per cent of you are not the GM of the New York Yankees You don’t make trades just to make a trade. It all has to make sence. All teams want the world in any trade with the Yankees
what happened today is the red socks rolled the dice in an attempt to keep up with the yankees. v mart is no sure thing to lift them , and even if he hits he may not be able to pull the dead weight of tek, nancy drew and ortiz.
the yankees are the best team in baseball, they didnt have to roll the dice today.
“Victor Martinez is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball.”
Wait…what about all the intangibles that “Mr. No Hitter” the Big C has…how is their pitching staff going to be able to get through games he doesn’t start?
Dammit – the SJ imposter is still here. The real SJ, can’t you email Pete and ask him to freeze the IP address of the idiot who keeps posing as you??? (“You” said that you believe there was a tax and then “you” said you believe there was no tax…)
Joe I
July 31st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
“Just don’t wear one to the game. You’ll stick out like a sore thumb in a gown….unless, of course, it’s a ball gown.”
Maybe SJ gets together with Swish and Shelley and they’ll throw a toga party Animal House style!
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Lord…that would have to be three of the homliest “girls” anywhere. Imagine the conversation when some poor slob picks SJ up at the restaurant and says, “Can I take you home after dinner? Where do you live?” SJ says, “You can just drop me off at the Chicago City Pound.”
“Zero to 3 year service time players are the new high currenency in the game.”
Which is one reason why the Yanks would not have considered seriously putting Joba or Hughes into a Halladay deal.
“All teams want the world in any trade with the Yankees”
Yep
“what happened today is the red socks rolled the dice in an attempt to keep up with the yankees. v mart is no sure thing to lift them , and even if he hits he may not be able to pull the dead weight of tek, nancy drew and ortiz.
the yankees are the best team in baseball, they didnt have to roll the dice today.”
Yep
Ham Fighters, you forgot their black hole that is SS.
Don’t forget that the Monster will make V-mart a better hitter…at least that is what the experts will tell you.
“Victor Martinez is one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball.”
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I’ve been saying this all along!
-bad defensively
-slow as sin
-injury risk
-in a huge slump (hitting .193 over this past 65 games)
I was hoping the Sox would give up Buchholz for him, but Hagadone could end up being a solid starter and Masterson will be useful for a long time.
About VMart, if he plays and Lowell sits, how are their bats not a wash?
It’s not as if Lowell has fallen off a cliff with his stick. He’s still a damn good hitter, and Kevin Youkilis isn’t exactly Brooks Robinson @3B, either.
D.J. Carrasco hasn’t thrown more than 55 pitches in one outing all year.
The White Sox could be in the bullpen by the 3rd inning.
hey i like victor, but i still like the yankees offense better than the socks.
Cliff Lee tonight… will be interesting to see how he fares with his new team.
matinez in place of tek is a huge upgrade on offense, but how would it effect the pitchers and defense?
“About VMart, if he plays and Lowell sits, how are their bats not a wash?”
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a) that’s the point. Lowell HAS to sit some, and they don’t want to lose any production when he does
b) they are praying VMart returns to a guy who can hit .320 with 25HR power from the catcher position
he’s not a game-changer for the Sox unless he really catches fire. not likely.
This Peavy trade smells of a “Let me do something so that I can say that I did something” trade to me. Very similar to the Griffey trade last year. Kenny Williams is a weird bird.
actually Ken Williams is one of the best GM’s in the game even if Peavy doesn’t pitch in the next couple of weeks when he gets healthy the rotation of Peavy,Danks,Floyd and Contreras is the best in the Central hands down….they just need to stay within 3 games of Detroit heading into Sept and the Sox will win that division especially if Quentin gets going…Richard and Poreda are nice young prospect types who should do well pitching in San Diego but at best are mid rotation type pitchers with Peavy Williams has a staff of 4 1/1a types…shrewd!
In what world is Victor Martinez big money???
He has 2.5 million for the rest of the year and a .25 mil buyout.
V-Mart ? Lowell (Advantage Yankees!)
V-Mart ? Varitek (Advantage Yankees!)
V-Mart contract added to Boston’s payroll! (Advantage Yankees!)
Wow, Pittsburgh may have a payroll below 35-mil next year.
VMart, I think, will make $7.5M next season.
It’s not big money but in this economy, if he doesn’t produce, it’s plenty.
From Sherman: #Yanks told it would take Austin Jackson-level plyr for Washburn told Sea what type willing to do, and #Mariners never got back to them
Then they gave him to the Tigers for much less. Seattle GM must be smoking the same thing JP was…
SJ44
Victor Martinez is not big money. Other people on here have said that. That’s an outright lie
Vmart has a .25 million buyout next year
Rayvt -
Vmart doesnt have a large contract!!!!!!
V-Mart will make the Sawx bench insane…JK
DT – OPPC member July 31st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
D.J. Carrasco hasn’t thrown more than 55 pitches in one outing all year.
The White Sox could be in the bullpen by the 3rd inning.
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Or he could throw a 2-hit shutout…
“they just need to stay within 3 games of Detroit heading into Sept and the Sox will win that division especially if Quentin gets going”
Exactly. And they are supposed to do that without a 5th starter since he just traded Richards and Colon is on the DL. I understand wanting to get Peavy (who I think will struggle to adjust to the AL when he does actually pitch!), but shouldn’t Williams have made sure he would be able to cover that spot until Peavy comes off the DL?
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Plus replacing the prospects they gave away. If he is a ½ yr rental he is expensive. BTW, Varitek seems to kill the Yankees, so I’d rather see V-Mart than him. Also, which one is going to catch the knuckleball! Yikes!
from Will Carroll tweet:
“Just got off phone re: Peavy. Told: “Best case? August 15, but that’s pushing it. Really pushing it. Hasn’t even started throwing for real.”"
Kenny Williams is the same guy who traded Swisher for Betemit, right?
“Exactly. And they are supposed to do that without a 5th starter since he just traded Richards and Colon is on the DL.”
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Is Colon on the DL?
I thought he jsut came off (I could be wrong)
“Is Colon on the DL?
I thought he jsut came off (I could be wrong)”
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I must be confusing him with someone else.
“Is Colon on the DL?
I thought he jsut came off (I could be wrong)”
He just went on DL, he was supposed to pitch last night or Wednesday, and he was scratched, then placed on the DL.
No chance that Peavy is ready that soon. He needs to make at least a month worth of rehab starts. This quote is really funny coming from Peavy’s agent, “Frankly I am flabbergasted that the White Sox would want to make this deal with him in his physical condition,” Axelrod said.
I turned off the game when the White Sox were leading 1-0 because I believed we would lose the game.
So how badly did we ended losing it?
SJ, but if they were looking to dump $$, wouldn’t the teams want to take back good prospects (say instead of holding onto a Bannister for instance)?
The thing is, the Tribe didn’t get much for Martinez – that’s what’s annoying.
If we need anymore evidence that Bob “i’m an idiot” Watson hates the Yankees look no further than Garza getting FINED for purposely hitting Mark and admitting it! Funny AJ never hit anyone and he was suspended! TOTAL BS!
Carrasco hasn’t started in the majors since 2005…and he hasn’t pitched more than 3.2 innings since June. ‘looks like the Chisox will exercise their bullpen tonight. And with us starting Mitre, we’ll probably be exrcising our bullpen tomight.
Should be fun…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7088
# You Know Who July 31st, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I turned off the game when the White Sox were leading 1-0 because I believed we would lose the game.
So how badly did we ended losing it?
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Now really, why are you pretending to be a Yankee fan. Are you that computer illiterate that you don’t know how to find out what the Yankee score was?
Fri, Jul 31
Duchscherer (elbow) has been scratched from his rehab start for Triple-A Sacramento on Friday, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
Recommendation: No reason has been given for him missing the start, but Duchscherer may have suffered a setback in his return from elbow problems.
(Rotowire.com)
It’s amazing to me that on my other board, they are raking Cash for not including Hughes in a deal for Halladay. They love Joba (why not, I agree), but for some reason, Phil is considered expendable…..
This is funny:
•Tomorrow night is still Victor Martinez bobblehead night in Cleveland, according to MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince.
7.5 million for next year plus the rest of this years salary.
That’s big money.
Plus, if you add in what have tied up in Varitek, that’s a ton of money tied into the position.
That’s a fact.
This is funny:
•Tomorrow night is still Victor Martinez bobblehead night in Cleveland, according to MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince.
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It sounds like somebody in Cleveland is going to eat the cost to manufacture all those bobblehead dolls. Maybe the Indians should have required the Red Sox to pay for them.
Who catches Wakefield when he comes Back ? Victor Martinez never had a knuckleball pitcher in Cleveland and Varitek always had difficulty with the floater.
How will Martinez handle Matsuzaka’s wildness if and when he returns ?
So it’s basically Smoltz vs. Mitre tonight.
R*d S*x 1.5 games back.
Hagadone is not bad & has a very high upside. TJ surgery notwithstanding. He throws in the mid to high 90′s & is left-handed. He has 3+ pitches at least before the surgery. He is a high risk high reward type player.
Hagadone is promising. Hagadone was the #3 prospect in the Sox system coming into 2009 per Baseball America. A first round pick out of the University of Washington in 2007, he underwent Tommy John surgery last year and has returned, throwing the ball well at Single-A Greenville.
I don’t think there was a Yankee tax going on.
without a doubt there was a Yankee tax going on as usual…ex. Yanks call on Washburn and are told Seattle wants either Montero or AJax for 2 months of WASHBURN?!?! yanks counter with 3 or 4 players they’d move for him…Seattle says we’ll get back to you and then the next day trade him for Luke French who wasn’t even in Detroit’s top 50 prospects to start the season and single A one pitch pitcher whose 5’9” and weighs 160 ibs….
Cashman is taking a huge gamble that he will get something done by the waiver deadline. The yankees are very thin in pitchers. They needed to add a bullpen arm or another starter.
Who catches Wakefield when he comes Back ? Victor Martinez never had a knuckleball pitcher in Cleveland and Varitek always had difficulty with the floater.
How will Martinez handle Matsuzaka’s wildness if and when he returns ?
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I think that the Red Sox will probably keep Kotarras on the roster to catch Wakefield. They lost Masterson in the trade so they have an open slot there.
They’re also KILLING the Hairston deal. I may have to give that place up, lol – they are like most of the people in the game thread, complaining and hating on the Yankees organization as if they can’t do anything right. I’m tired of fans hating on the Yankees for no reason – boy, is this how I sounded? LOL
So say you guys were all MLB pitchers and had NTCs in your contract.
Your GM wants to trade you, so what cities are on your list of where you’d go?
Cashman is taking a huge gamble that he will get something done by the waiver deadline. The yankees are very thin in pitchers. They needed to add a bullpen arm or another starter.
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Whatsamattah??? Don’t you think Kei Igawa is a big enough insurance policy?
“•Tomorrow night is still Victor Martinez bobblehead night in Cleveland, according to MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince.”
Fedex them to Boston and Papi can use the hollow part of the heads to hide pills in…
Champ, I agree – the Ms had no intention of doing business with the Yankees.
Joba had better be good and everyone had better stay healthy or we are going to depend on Mitre and some possible waiver wire acquisition to carry us to the post-season, lol
Wow the confidence for Mitre here is overwhelming. He’ll do his job as a #5 starter…can’t expect too much from him as a #5 can you?
LOL I read that Girardi said he could play Hairston and Ransom against lefties – he’s got to be kidding. Joe has this thing for Ransom……I wish Cash would just DFA him regardless of what Joe thinks.
Please tune in Tuesday at 2 for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
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what happened to sat,sunday,monday?
I dont see how Sox can keep Kottaras.
They need to replace Masterson with some sort of long reliever.
IMO
SJ44
He has a 250k buyout for next year
Thats a fact!!!!!!!!!!!
Peavy probably won’t pitch again this year ….. why do you give up 4 pitchers this year for one next year???
“Champ, I agree – the Ms had no intention of doing business with the Yankees.”
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Betsy,
FWIW, they asked for much more from the Brewers in exchange for Washburn as well.
I think Seattle might have actually valued the Detroit package more than anybody else (and more than they prob should have).
k williams said on mlb network he thinks peavy may be available for the boston and ny searies (aug 25th-30th).
thats pretty aggressive, only 3 rehab starts. i wouldnt look for him until mid sept. at the earliest. asking a guy coming off surgery to open it up that quick and thinking he’ll stay healthy doing it is pretty risky, imo.
Gammons just said that Hagadone
has one of the highest ceilings of any pitcher in baseball.
Thats a fact!!!! That must be laughed at!!!!!
“SJ44
He has a 250k buyout for next year
Thats a fact!!!!!!!!!!!”
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Jim,
but there is no chance they dont pick up the option unless he gets hurt.
so the buyout doesnt mean much.
Josh Beckett has a cheap buyout too.
LOL I read that Girardi said he could play Hairston and Ransom against lefties – he’s got to be kidding. Joe has this thing for Ransom……I wish Cash would just DFA him regardless of what Joe thinks.
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I don’t see how they can keep both Hairston and Ransom on the roster…they don’t have an opening. Who would they get rid of…Hinske?
Kenny Williams is known for being aggressive.
Mondays an off day
the yankees got a nice little utility player.
plays almost every position & can hold his own with the bat.
it is like the 90′s when we added a lot of players that helped out a lot.
we will get a starter.bannister would be nice.
it looks like volquez had a setback in his comeback attempt.
does not look good.
surgery??????
No, I really don’t like Mitre as the #5 starter when I have questions about the #3 (because I don’t expect Joba to keep pitching like this) and #4 starters. The Yankees had better cross their fingers that no one gets hurt – Mitre and Hirsch as their depth, that’s good.
Boston Dave -
If Victor costs too much money and is not worth it, and they feel they can find better during free agency or at the trade deadline next year, they’ll dump him.
It’s not like they gave up anything to get him.
Betsy – I guess that’s proof positive that this is the smarter board. (Shocking, I know
)
Exactly. And they are supposed to do that without a 5th starter since he just traded Richards and Colon is on the DL. I understand wanting to get Peavy (who I think will struggle to adjust to the AL when he does actually pitch!), but shouldn’t Williams have made sure he would be able to cover that spot until Peavy comes off the DL?
uh…remember Kenny Williams is a GM who put together a World Series Championship roster, i’m pretty sure he’s figure that out keep in mind he’s got a minor league system too and again lets say the last six weeks of the season he’s running Peavy,Danks,Floyd,Buerhle and Contreras out there who wants to face that and imagine in the post season…that’s scary! and I’m and die hard life long Yanks fan but i call ‘em like i see ‘em….for what he gave up that was a no brainer….while it’s true peavy may struggle some coming to the NL and pitching in that ballpark he couls also pitch to his talent and if he’s healthy the sox will roll over the Twins and Tigers…..
Betsy,
you’re right, but at least most other teams have the same issue.
I do think the Yanks will still be adding at least one arm to the rotation within the next several weeks.
Betsy, Igawa and Towers would be called up before Hirsch.
Not that that’s exceptionally reassuring.
Still, the important thing to remember is that it’s only the non-waiver deadline today; teams can still make moves through August.
If someone gets hurt, the Yankees aren’t out of options.
kenny williams is a big time gambler, do not get the Peavy move….
the yanks do not need pen help they need starters…they have addtl pen arms with potential in the minors.. they need starters only………….
I assume hairston replaces ransom… hairston has a little more flexibilty and more speed…weems with romine, montero and cervelli was never playing in NY……………
BD, did they ask for a lot from the Brewers? I didn’t even know they were involved….
JPB, the Yanks don’t play Hinkse much at all – they probably would get rid of him as I don’t think Joe likes him.
I still want to know why Shelley Duncan is on this team…
“Boston Dave -
If Victor costs too much money and is not worth it, and they feel they can find better during free agency or at the trade deadline next year, they’ll dump him.”
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there’s at most a 5% chance that the Sox don’t pick up the option if VMart is healthy.
“look no further than Garza getting FINED for purposely hitting Mark”
Suspensions for starting pitchers are a joke, anyway. They appeal, it gets reduced, and at the most they miss one start.
If off days are in your favor, you might not even miss a start.
I wouldn’t get too worked up over it.
Ham Fighters July 31st, 2009 at 6:08 pm
k williams said on mlb network he thinks peavy may be available for the boston and ny searies (aug 25th-30th).
thats pretty aggressive, only 3 rehab starts. i wouldnt look for him until mid sept. at the earliest. asking a guy coming off surgery to open it up that quick and thinking he’ll stay healthy doing it is pretty risky, imo.
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Out here on the Left Coast, all we’ve heard is that Peavy was probably down for the year. Ligaments in his foot …. sound familiar? Not sure what Williams is thinking by pushing a guy who didn’t even want to be on the team in the first place.
what’s so funny? ransom was terrible to start the year, but he’s okay.
In fact the last time he started, we won a tight game in which he was a key contributor.
The Ransom jokes are funny and everything, but they get old.
The Rays must be pissed. They wanted Bay last year and the Sox got him. They wanted Martinez this year and the Sox got him.
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Gammons just said that Hagadone
has one of the highest ceilings of any pitcher in baseball.
Thats a fact!!!! That must be laughed at!!!!!
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Actually, that is a true statement. He is a LHP who throws 97 mph and has 3 plus pitches. If he were with the Yankees we would consider him the same as Gammons. (He was a #1 pick as well (Supplemental round #55 I believe.).
‘You Know Who’ – please crawl back under the bridge.
Boston Dave
If he’s not successful with them, they will boot him out the door faster than white on rice.
Again, it’s not like they gave up anything for him.
Will people calm down about Cashman. He couldn’t make a trade without a team asking for the best of our young talent. The Red Sox added a player who is in a 10 week slump to a lineup full of players slumping. He isn’t a good catcher and he won’t change things dramatically. The Red Sox are one injury away from being in trouble. And I’m talking about there starting rotation, if Lester or Beckett goes on the DL then they aren’t going to beat the yankees especially in the playoffs with a back end rotation of smoltz, penny, and clay.
Ray VT
He has arm troubles and is in Single A at age 23. Bigger bust than Buchholz should be.
joba’s innings will have to be closer to 160 compared to 130.
he is already over 100.
it is not possible to avoid it.
Rebecca, I just don’t see how the Yankees can get anyone decent from the waiver wire. Teams will block the Yankees and, really, what quality pitchers are going to be made available?
Unless what the Royals were asking for Bannister was just ludicrous, I think they should have done that (and I wasn’t necessarily for him before). It makes no sense that Cash would say that Phil is staying in the pen because he can’t look Mo in the eye and tell him that he’s not making his best effort to win now (or something like that) and then he doesn’t trade any prospects to improve his team.
“BD, did they ask for a lot from the Brewers? I didn’t even know they were involved….”
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Betsy,
they asked for guys that are comparable in value to AJax or perhaps slightly lower than that (any one of Milwaukees top 5-6 prospects I’d say)
Still, they clearly asked for more than they did from Detroit.
“And I’m talking about there starting rotation, if Lester or Beckett goes on the DL then they aren’t going to beat the yankees especially in the playoffs with a back end rotation of smoltz, penny, and clay.”
Just to play devils advocate, what if CC or AJ go on the DL?
Andrew Brackman has a higher upside than Hagadone could ever dream of. You dont hear anyone talking him up!!
“it looks like volquez had a setback in his comeback attempt.
does not look good.
surgery??????”
This is what’s so funny about all of the complaining about the yankees “babying” their pitchers and how ridiculous innings counts/ pitch counts are.
You know who really doesn’t believe in innings limits and pitch counts?
Dusty Baker.
And the littany of young arms that have been ruined in his wake is ridiculous.
They way he used Volquez and Cueto last year was just unbelievable.
And now Volquez looks like he’s in a lot of trouble.
It’s very possible pitchers may need to throw more.
But that can’t just do it some haphazard way and do it all of a sudden when it’s never been something they’ve done before.
But Dusty did lead the Reds to a 74-88 record last year – good for second to last in the awful NL Central.
Just win now, baby!!!
Joe, for sure……once you weed out the trolls, lol. My most recent post sounds like I’m killing Cash, but I think it’s just frustration because the Yankees need to prepare for the worst and they aren’t equipped to do that. I am highly skeptical of picking up anyone on the waiver wire……..for reasons I enumerated above
“Rebecca, I just don’t see how the Yankees can get anyone decent from the waiver wire. ”
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well, depends on your definition of “decent”.
If they make the playoffs, they won’t be starting any pitchers that’s aren’t currently on their roster.
But they can almost surely get a guy to eat innings and provide avg 4th or 5th starter results.
I’d love to know the specifics of the Bannister dealings. I can’t imagine they passed on him if he was coming cheap in terms of prospects.
I’m very sad that i have to say this and admit this but… you have to give the yankees a “F” in the trade market this year. They traded for a guy that you ABSOLUTELY dont need. Ransom or Ramiro Pena would do the same job or better than hairiston.
The yankees NEEDED to trade for a fifth starter or middle reliever (prefer Heath bell) and cashman DID NOT do his job.
Meanwhile you have to give the Red Sox an A or B. They got one of the best hitting catcher in the game and a good first baseman. I think they should have just kept laroche over cotchman but that’s the only difference between an A or B for them…
NOT GOOD job by the yankees there..
According to Terry Francona,
Ortiz has earned the right to be cared about as a person!!!
Apparently, one needs to earn the right to be cared about as a person in Boston.
I dont see how Sox can keep Kottaras.
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Correct. It’s a complete waste of a roster spot. Wakefield won’t be back for 2 weeks.
Boston will call up Bowden or or another AAA pitcher or send Smoltz to the bullpen.
Wakefield will need a rehab start and Dice-K a few of them before being ready to pitch.
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I know what you mean, but that doesn’t put a ceiling on a guy. He is a quality pitcher who hits high 90′s with a fastball and has 3 quality pitches. Pitchers get hurt all the time and if it is TJ surgery now they often come back better.
That said, a lot depends on your timetable. If you need a pitcher this year then he isn’t your guy. He could easily get his arm strength back this year and quickly move up next year and even make it into the MLB end of next year.
Lefthanded pitchers are always in demand. A high 90s LHP with 3 plus pitches is top tier no matter which way you look at it.
CB
Didn’t Dusty do that to Prior and Wood too?
So far as I know, Watson has not suspended Garza………..and I’d be shocked if he did.
Betsy: Repeat with me: There is always a way. The Yankees have been at this too long to be (that) clueless.
CB: Dusty Baker makes Joe Torre’s bullpen management look like manager of the year type stuff…
Portents for things to come this winter for JP…
The Jays and Rangers were in serious discussions last night about a trade.
And why wouldn’t JP want to do that? Texas has an amazing set of young players.
Talks were serious and progressing…
Until they asked Roy about playing in Texas.
And he said no.
Oh well. There goes neftali feliz, justin smoak, etc.
Roy’s the one with leverage in that situation. And that’s not going to change.
“So far as I know, Watson has not suspended Garza………..and I’d be shocked if he did.”
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well, if any future pitcher gets suspended, they’ll be able to point to this as a precedent.
“I didn’t do anything different than Garza did”
when asked who would be the #5 starter, williams said the turn only comes up 3 times till peavy will be bacck. they are counting (for right now) on peavy to fill that spot.
looks like theres gonna be alot of competition for arms after the ‘deadline.’
I get you RayVt, but they could have held the REd Sox over a barrel and that’s all they got. Now they still have Buchholz for their rotation or to trade away in the offseason if he does not ruin completely his trade value.
Then again, even if he does pitch like crap, he wont lose his trade value, because ESPN will be there to clean up his mess.
I dont see how Sox can keep Kottaras.
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Correct. It’s a complete waste of a roster spot. Wakefield won’t be back for 2 weeks.
Boston will call up Bowden or or another AAA pitcher or send Smoltz to the bullpen.
Wakefield will need a rehab start and Dice-K a few of them before being ready to pitch.
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How many rehab starts does a knuckleballer like Wakefield need?
Rebecca, I hope you’re right, but of course that means having to wait until someone decent (innings eater – but not someone who’d give up 10 runs in 6 innings) gets put on waivers……..
the Yanks really don’t need another arm starter or reliever instead the need the inventory of arms that they have to get right in the next two weeks and by that i mean
a-Bruney has to get it toghether quick! forget about trying to prove to K-Rod who you are and get your command back!
b-General Girardi use Melancon and Roberts a lil more and stop runnin “Cokie” out there every day please…
c-get Marte back and strong so that Hughes can be “stretched out ” and take the 5th starter spot
d- this way when the time comes to start cutting back on Joba’s starts(because Cash will absolute protect Joba’s golden arm from the evildoings of general Girardi due to the reoccuring nightmares of Josh Johnson,Anibel Sanchez and Nolasco that he’s starting to have) Mitre can spot start in 4 or 5 of those spots….especially if the Yanks keep rolling and come into sept with a 5-7 game lead on the RedSux and the Rays!
“Didn’t Dusty do that to Prior and Wood too?”
He abused the pretty badly.
It’s always impossible to pinpoint why a pitcher get’s hurt.
But with what’s been going on in Cincy Dusty just looks worse and worse with how he handles young arms.
But it’s ok because he’s “old school” and doesn’t really bother with sissy new age things like pitch counts, etc.
And he’s not going to change.
What a combo…
Betsy,
you also have to remember that there are more teams that are still in the wildcard race right now.
In a few weeks, teams will start to fall out and decide to dump salary.
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Andrew Brackman has a higher upside than Hagadone could ever dream of. You dont hear anyone talking him up
No Brackman doesn’t right now. He is a very raw pitcher with a great fastball. Brackman has loads of potential still, but he is extremely tall and has trouble with consistency in his motion & his release points and he needs to learn more pitches. That said the Yankees took a big flyer on him and do not have a rushed schedule for him. But he is very raw.
Buckner
I was about to make that point. But the point I was making was that the yankees and Red Sox have pitching issues and are even in terms of pitching, but the yankees have the better offense.
Is it me or are the Yankees really valuing players who can play multiple positions? This is the third trade for multi talented players in Swisher, Hinske and now Hairston. It’s smart, gives them some of the small ball, intangible types like David Eckstein.
As for the coming pitching dilemna, I think Joba will skip starts here and there and be able to stay in the roation the rest of the way barring injury. If he stays dominant, I love him pitching game 3 of a playoff series.
Good news and bad news from Toronto today:
-The Blue Jays traded Scott Rolen today so he won’t be there when we play next week.
-Roy Halladay is still with the Blue Jays and will start against us next Tuesday.
The Yanks valuing players tht can play multiple positions makes all the sense in the world when one considers the roster inflexibility with large contracts a la A-Rod, Teixeira, etc. They need the versatility since they can’t get it otherwise.
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I agree with you Jim! I wish they had gotten more, but if I’m Cleveland and money is important I get rid of V-Mart for a bag of balls. He can’t hit, catch or play defense at 1B. Cleveland is loaded in the minors. Who couldn’t use a LHP and a bullpen guy. Short-term it isn’t a great deal, but from what I’ve heard the Yankees will be facing a lefty ace in Cleveland in a couple of years.
I still think Lee was the pitcher they needed to keep but again it appears to be a dollars dump & out of the AL. Carmona is on his way back and will probably be an ace again as well. So I am sure they have a plan, but I don’t know it.
Papi sounding a little cranky
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....t_abo.html
” but I think it’s just frustration because the Yankees need to prepare for the worst ”
Why?
Rebecca, as I said, I hope you’re right – although, if Hal is insistent on not going over budget, why would he want to take on more salary? I guess we’ll have to wait and see….. I would also have liked to pick up another arm for the pen
Every year, because you have to have contingency plans. If something happens to a starter or the pen implodes (which I can see happening), you have to be prepared. If not, then you get desperate …….not a good thing
ok let me see if i have this right,
Seattle demands Hughes, Chamberlain, Montero, or Austin Jackson for Washburn.
Seattle trades Washburn to Detroit for Luke French and Mauruico Robles.
Seattle didn’t get back to Cashman.
Boston sends a package of Nick Hadagone, Bryan Price, and Justin Masterson, in exchange for Victor Martinez.
Peter Gammons lone description of Masterson, “he is a character guy”
wow
“Peter Gammons lone description of Masterson, “he is a character guy””
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technically, he is one of the nicer guys on the team.
Some Sox staff members made a point to tell me that he was a really nice to them and one of the cooler guys.
Here is the list of starters I came up with that we might have a shot at, please add more guys.
Royals- Meche
A’s- Duchscherer
Reds- Harang Arroyo(for Francesa haha)
Dbacks- Garland Davis
Padres- Gaudin
Girardi was definitely talking on WFAN about plans for Ransom and Hairston to play vs lefties at the same time. Was he just being nice to Ransom because they haven’t informed him he’s released or will someone else get DFA’d?
They just called up Duncan and Hairston will probably get here tomorrow, they aren’t going to DFA Duncan.
It’s gotta be Ransom right!? RIGHT!??
Seriously get rid of that guy he is useless
So according to rotoworld Matt Garza will not be suspended. Thanks Watson. Tell me again how there is no Yankee bias?
I’m very sad that i have to say this and admit this but… you have to give the yankees a “F” in the trade market this year. They traded for a guy that you ABSOLUTELY dont need. Ransom or Ramiro Pena would do the same job or better than hairiston.
you couldn’t be more wrong actually….neither Ransom nor Pena really are OF’ers wheras Hairston has MAJOR LEAGUE EXPERIENCE at all 3 of positions and actually is probably and upgrade defensively over both Damon and Swish he also gives the Yanks MORE speed on than bench than Pena or Ransom and is abetter infield defender than Ransom and comparable to Pena although prob better @ 3rd slightly below Pena @ SS….Cash didn’t buy MLB GM for Dummies yesterday guys he knows what he’s doing….the Royals were probably asking the Yanks for some combo of guys like Nova,McCallister,DeLaRosa or something like that which Cash was right to turn down as these are players who have a much higher upside than a guy like Bannister who had a 6 era last year just because you may need him for 5 starts this year….the Yanks right now have 5 healthy starters two former SP with good to high ceilings in their pen that could be stretched out with more than enough bullpen arms ro callup to replace them in the event that Hughes or Ace or god forbid both have to go in the rotation…Cash was shrewd to stand pat and not get drug over a barrel for the Brian Bannisters of the world….remember we have the best record in the game as much for our pitching the last six weeks as for our bats
Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but I find it very refreshing and satisfying that the Yankees are no longer willing, apparently, to take on other teams’ expensive and crippling contracts.
“So according to rotoworld Matt Garza will not be suspended. Thanks Watson. Tell me again how there is no Yankee bias?”
I dont understand how Burnett got suspended for 5 days.
“Every year, because you have to have contingency plans. If something happens to a starter or the pen implodes (which I can see happening), you have to be prepared. If not, then you get desperate …….not a good thing”
Yeah I get that as a worst case scenario type of thing I agree…
77513,
Probably for the same reason that Pedro wasn’t thrown out of the 2003 playoff game for throwing at Garcia’s head.
I guess the LoHud blog wouldn’t be the LoHud blog without the daily complaints about everything related to the Yankees. I can only imagine how bad it is when they aren’t winning 18 out of 24…
“UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: It could be one and done for Shelley. Sounds like the Yankees may keep Ransom and Hairston to expand roster versatility. Girardi talked about being able to use them both. Interesting.”
Francona is loyal to a fault and will keep sending Ortiz out there as his DH.
With 22 road games remaining, how does Francona expect that road fans will treat Ortiz as the delusional Boston fans will ? Seven of those road games will be in the Bronx.
“It could be one and done for Shelley. Sounds like the Yankees may keep Ransom and Hairston to expand roster versatility. Girardi talked about being able to use them both. Interesting.”
LMAO
“technically, he is one of the nicer guys on the team.
Some Sox staff members made a point to tell me that he was a really nice to them and one of the cooler guys”
that’s kewl. However, when the overall endorsement of the the headliner in the deal is, “he is a character guy”, it makes me believe the RedSox did what they normally do: send garbage to other teams, in return for a key player.
no offense intended (to Masterson). And if my overall take is wrong, hopefully someone will correct me
Poor Ramiro Pena he was doing a great job as a utility player they sent him down for no reason.
I don’t get it. Why call up Shelley and put him on the 40 man roster just to get rid of him the next day. Also, will Eric Hinske ever get any playing time now? Sounds like Hairston may get his at bats, as well as playing Center.
Ransom really does have 9 lives..They do not need both of them on the roster…
Garza doesn’t get suspended even though he actually hit a batter, then flapped his gums about how he did it purposely, yet a Yankee pitcher gets suspended for not hitting someone.
The next time a Yankee pitcher gets a suspension for not hitting a batter should bring a law suit against the Commissioner for bias.
unless you know what the financial side of things are (maybe the Yanks really do have a self imposed salary cap) – how can you grade Cashman at the trade deadline?
Sounds like he would have swapped for a pitcher and given up prospects if the other team had paid salary. If the other team was willing to pay salary they wanted top of the line Yankee prospects. Yankees didn’t want to pull that trigger.
You can cry and say the Yanks needed this and that – but if Cash couldn’t raise the salary bar that means he had to trade salary to take salary on.
You can’t complain about the quality of a meal – if the cook only had $2 to spend at the grocery store.
“I’m very sad that i have to say this and admit this but… you have to give the yankees a “F” in the trade market this year”
they would’ve received an “F”, if they had traded Montero or Hughes. And a “D”, if they had traded AJax
when other GM’s either want to rob you, or complete a trade with another team, the best deals are the ones you don’t make.
the red sox gave up masterson & 2 other pitchers wich imo weakens their farm a little & their pen debth.
they also lost a spot starter in masterson.
when v mart plays lowell,varitek,etc….. sit so you have to look at the difference in offense between v mart & whoever sits only.
who knows this trade might hurt more than help.
they didn’t get a huge bat at all,no pitching & gave up 3 pitchers.one who was eating innings in the pen & could have spot started in a pinch & in fact did before.
Peter,
The rumor mill has it that Garza is getting away without being “sat” for ANY time? Is that TRUE? And, if so, how is that POSSIBLE? Just being deemed to have thrown at somebody, and MISSED, has caused 6 days suspensions (lowered to 5 days, usually). And the pitchers always claim that they made a mistake or that they were trying to pitch inside. But Garza 1) HIT Teixeira AND 2) worse — ADMITTED he was AIMING to hit him
So, how can he get away with no suspension?? Could you check with the powers that be in MLB for their “logic” (I hesitate to call whatever “reasoning” they offer as “logic”)
“Well, I don’t know about anyone else, but I find it very refreshing and satisfying that the Yankees are no longer willing, apparently, to take on other teams’ expensive and crippling contracts.”
Doreen I would say that there are a pretty good number of us with you.
SJ imposter – you don’t even sound intelligent in your posts. SJ is very articulate.
Ransom has to have something on Girardi, like some revealing photos. It is the only explanation.
Doreen,
I agree, and I’m happy that the Yankees hung on to the kids as well.
Someone wake Girardi up and tell him..
“CODY RANSOM IS NOT A GOOD BASEBALL PLAYER!!”
“I’m very sad that i have to say this and admit this but… you have to give the yankees a “F” in the trade market this year”
they would’ve received an F, if they had traded Montero or Hughes. And a D, if they had traded AJax
when other GM’s either want to rob you, or complete a trade with another team, the best deals are the ones you don’t make
I guess Dice K won’t be back very soon. He was put on the 60 day DL.
It sounds like the RS got Kotchman with another trade in mind but it didn’t work out. Also sounded like LaRoche wasn’t to happy platooning.
I think there could be some discention with the shared playing time that will be done there now. Some will be sitting that aren’t used to it.
Just what the yankees need give at bats to a guy hitting 254 with an obp of 305.
Calling up Duncan for 1 game and trading for garbage like Hairston and keeping Ransom on the team is dumb. The yanks had a better option in triple a with Pena.
BD 2.0
July 31st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
“Peter Gammons lone description of Masterson, “he is a character guy””
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According to Gammons, isn’t any present or former Boston player a ” character guy ” ?
With the lone exception of Manny Ramirez who John Henry told Gammons to do his best job of trashing. And, he followed orders.
The fact that Cody Ransom hit a few HRs last season should not guarantee him a spot on the 2009 25-man roster.
What am I missing here???
“So according to rotoworld Matt Garza will not be suspended”
He won’t be suspended because the pitch wasn’t near Tex’s head. We have seen it before with Proctor/Farns/Joba and Burnett. You only get suspended if the ball is at the neck or higher. I am sure that is why Garza kept the pitch low.
Here’s to hoping CC, AJ, and Andy can do it for us this post season. Not much else Cash could do though, good not to panic.
CaptainsCorner,
And your excuse why Pedro wasn’t thrown out from the 2003 playoff game or suspended when he threw at Garcia’s HEAD?
Vic-
TOTALLY agree 100%. For Garza to bean Tex and then ADMIT to doing it and he gets a measly fine? What a joke. Cashman should get Hal fired up about this and get him blabbing his mouth to the media.
THAT is an outrage.
Beckett gets 5 games, AJB gets 5 games (after reduction) and neither of them admit anything. Garza gets a fine!!!??
All of the throws were in the head/shoulder region.
What…a…JOKE.
Pete
What was the corresponding 40 move to free up Duncan –
NADY or WANG to 60 DAY DL??
“Ransom has to have something on Girardi, like some revealing photos. It is the only explanation.”
That means we will have to get something of Ransom.
Well I keep hearing that nobody cares about the steroid issue anymore. I’m tuning in to the Baltimore game to see what kind of reception the “unwitting juicer” receives.
I keep thinking about the conversation Cashman would have had to have with Hal to sell him on increasing the current salary. About the only reason to “go for broke,” I think, is if one more move will get you into first place. What’s that you say? The Yankees are already in first place?
They seem to be doing something right. The guys they’ve patched in have helped. I realize they are a catastrophic injury away from a major hole in the rotation (oh, they already had one of those), but they’ll deal.
I am sure that as puzzled as we all are about the “Joba Innings Rules,” that the Yankees have it worked out. There is no reason to broadcast the plans. That really serves no purpose, plus, we’d have less to debate here on Lohud. Remember when Joba first came up and Torre told everyone the Joba rules and Cash wasn’t too happy?
Anyway, as is, this is a good team and an exciting team to watch. I’m impressed that Pettitte and Joba seemed to have turned a corner (if only the offense could get Andy some runs) and I’ve like that Mitre keeps the ball down. So, we’ll see. We’ll see.
Vince
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wake said he didn’t think he would need a rehab start.
he can throw a lot of pitches & get ready very quickly.
Well if the Yanks have this same bullpen w/ACE being injured, good luck in the playoffs. Cash and Yanks should be disappointed that no pitching was gained today.
SJ, After everything that has transpiried during the past 2 weeks, The Pittsburgh Pirates have made tremendous strides in becoming a factor in about 3 years……I’m guessing the Bombers expect Bruney, Marte, & Melanchon to round into form and be significant additions to the bullpen……Rotation, well that’s a thin ice situation in my opinion…..
Captains-
“He won’t be suspended because the pitch wasn’t near Tex’s head.”
WHAT? What game were you watching? If memory serves, Tex turned his back to the ball and it caught him in the upper shoulder. About 6 inches from the base of the neck. Splitting hairs here?
Trish probably a good reaction it will be all Redsox fans down there.
Keeping Cody Ransom after acquiring a utility infielder is downright stupid.
Cody Ransom is a terrible baseball player, he shouldn’t be on any major league roster, let alone the best team in baseball’s.
If the Yankees keep Ransom instead of Duncan then I’ll be disappointed in Girardi/Cashman.
Hey Pete, where’s A Rod’s stats in the past 10 games???
Duncan has limited usefulness. He can hit. He can’t run or play defense. And he has great presence. That’s it. I’m not saying Ransom is great, but he offers more in teh way of versatility than Duncan.
How about Verlander, Jackson, Washburn, Porcello…fairly good rotation
“Duncan has limited usefulness. He can hit. He can’t run or play defense. And he has great presence.”
Ransom can’t hit, can’t run, can’t play defense and has no presence. I could make a better case for YOU to be on the Yankee roster than I can for Cody.
“Duncan has limited usefulness. He can hit. He can’t run or play defense. And he has great presence. That’s it. I’m not saying Ransom is great, but he offers more in teh way of versatility than Duncan.”
You don’t make sense with what you stated because the Yankees are a month away from expanded rosters and in my opinion, Duncan can win a game with his bat while Ransom does nothing but take up space when he relieves Arod.
Jim Pir-one
July 31st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I get you RayVt, but they could have held the REd Sox over a barrel and that’s all they got. Now they still have Buchholz for their rotation or to trade away in the offseason if he does not ruin completely his trade value.
Then again, even if he does pitch like crap, he wont lose his trade value, because ESPN will be there to clean up his mess
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buchholz has to start pitching well soon.
at 25(in august) yrs old his value will drop hard & quick especially if he gets hit hard & loses his confidence again.
no team is going to wan’t to wait 1-2 years for him to build his confidence back up again.
Pat M,
What do you think if Pete’s suggestion that the Yanks might be starting to stretch Hughes out? It certainly makes sense innings wise to switch Hughes and Joba (for both of them).
I think people are too hard on Cody Ransom.
“Ransom can’t hit, can’t run, can’t play defense and has no presence. I could make a better case for YOU to be on the Yankee roster than I can for Cody.”
Thank you. Ransom doesn’t do anything well.
RDM July 31st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Hey Pete, where’s A Rod’s stats in the past 10 games???
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Hey, RDM, how many stupid things have you said on this blog the last 10 days?
Like him or not, A-Rod is the MVP of this team.
77513 I agree with you and the rest of the commenter’s on the lunacy of keeping ransom on this team. His time is overdue and should have been jettisoned once AROD came back and leave the infield utility duties to Pena who could grow at the major league level. I like the Jerry Hairston deal more than others here from what I have read because he can cover all of the outfield positions and all of the infield except for first base, which is huge especially if someone gets injured or needs a day off as well as a pinch runner for late in the game situations. I glad cashman stuck to his guns and kept the homegrown stock plentiful for the time being. I’m calling it now Cleveland will be an elite team within the next three years to the level the rays have attained with all the talent they have amassed over the past two years and the high draft picks they will have next year.
Ransom can jump 5 feet in the air standing still. He just can’t hit a baseball. Or Field a baseball.
“I think people are too hard on Cody Ransom.”
Not as hard on him like I want to be which is kicking his non-playing butt to the curb.
Pat M….
July 31st, 2009 at 7:03 pm
SJ, After everything that has transpiried during the past 2 weeks, The Pittsburgh Pirates have made tremendous strides in becoming a factor in about 3 years……I’m guessing the Bombers expect Bruney, Marte, & Melanchon to round into form and be significant additions to the bullpen……Rotation, well that’s a thin ice situation in my opinion…..
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Seems like all the experts aren’t as visonary about the Pirates as you are. Nobody seems to get what they are doing. Just laugh and act like they have no clue. Maybe they will understand in a few years.
I really liked the Pirates teams in the 70s. Some real talent on that team then.
Too many RS fans at Camden Yards tonight.
Jim Bowden > Shappiro
agree, disagree ?
“I think people are too hard on Cody Ransom.”
Cody’s mom?
j/k
“A Rod is the MVP of this team”…I just fell off the chair. A Rod is horrible batting clean up this year and really bad w/RISP. I would bat him 6th or 7th in the line up. Watch his at bats…same every time….first pitch fastball strike looking, second pitch either another strike looking or foul ball…third pitch ball…4th pitch a K, or ground out….
If Duncan could win a game with his bat he would have been up a long time ago and MVP’s would have rained down from the heavens for him……. Not. He is as useless as his brother who is in Pawtucket, crappy fielders, slow base runners and swing and hope it goes out at bats aren’t the recipe for success. The only Duncan worth anything is the father who for some reason has the midas touch with cast away pitchers, see kyle lohse, joel pineiro etc….
Doreen
July 31st, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I think people are too hard on Cody Ransom.
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People forget some of the role players that were on the teams of the 90s.
CB
July 31st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
“Didn’t Dusty do that to Prior and Wood too?”
He abused the pretty badly.
It’s always impossible to pinpoint why a pitcher get’s hurt.
But with what’s been going on in Cincy Dusty just looks worse and worse with how he handles young arms.
But it’s ok because he’s “old school” and doesn’t really bother with sissy new age things like pitch counts, etc.
And he’s not going to change.
What a combo…
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then how do you feel about joba pitching over 140 innings this year after only 100 last year???
i think the yankees are insane to have joba go over 140 innings.
i just don’t wan’t to take a chance.
going from 100-160 or more innings is a very bad idea.
jmo
The “MVP” of this team thus far is the starting pitching….period….
i remember when Jerry Hairston Jr, and Brian Roberts were both considered to be equal when with the Orioles.
I don’t agree with A-Rod being the MVP of the team, but I do agree that with his bat in the lineup the team is 20% better.
doreen the only position ransom should be playing is left out, period.
Big Poopie just K’d looking….):
“If Duncan could win a game with his bat he would have been up a long time ago and MVP’s would have rained down from the heavens for him……. Not. He is as useless as his brother who is in Pawtucket, crappy fielders, slow base runners and swing and hope it goes out at bats aren’t the recipe for success. The only Duncan worth anything is the father who for some reason has the midas touch with cast away pitchers, see kyle lohse, joel pineiro etc….”
He’s not as useless as Ransom, who can’t do anything well including fielding his position or even base running.
“The “MVP” of this team thus far is the starting pitching….period….”
The starting pitching after the break may be the collective “MVP” but before they break they weren’t singing the same tune. It was more of a shrill cry.
“I think people are too hard on Cody Ransom.”
Too hard??? he can’t hit..he has no power…he can’t run…he has no fire and no life…he adds nothing to this team…and even if he did…it would be 1 thing, play good defense…he doesn’t do it!!!! he is a horrid fielder!
He…is…not…good!
As I was telling my wife Debra last night, I had a premonition that the Yanks will get swept by the White Sox.
Everytime it seems as though they are pulling away from the Red Sox, they would go into a tailspin.
“People forget some of the role players that were on the teams of the 90s.”
Just because they had Clay Bellinger back then it doesn’t mean they have to make the same mistake today.
Betsy-
I’m not saying I have any interest in these pitchers but Arroyo, Harang and Francisco Cordero have big $$$$ remaining and could easily be dumped onto a team claiming them off waivers.
Ditto Barry Zito, ?Paul Maholm,Chris Young,Jake Westbrook, Kerry Wood, possibly Roy Oswalt. These are pitchers with long term inflated deals that might easily pass thru waivers and be available for trade.
I’d suspect Oswalt would be pulled back, but with the remaining $$$$ on his contract and when they fall out of the race who knows??
Jackson is 0-1.
Montero is 1-1 with an RBI single
RDM July 31st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
The “MVP” of this team thus far is the starting pitching….period….
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The Yanks were 13-15 (.464) without A-Rod to start the season and they are now 49-25 (.662) since he returned to the lineup.
Make all the excuses you want but this is a completely different team with him and their record with him speaks for itself.
I highly doubt joba going from 100 innings last year to 160 is dangerous. You need to care for your pitchers but not baby them. Chamberlain is going to be a top starter in this rotation for years to come so if you don’t increase his innings how will he ever be able to live up to his potential.
I don’t bother to check the exact score.
I bet the R*d S*x are winning
There is no point of having both Hairston and Ransom on the team. They did the same thing with having Berroa on the team what was his use? Duncan at least gives you pop from the right side something the team lost with Nady getting injured.
Here is the list of starters I came up with that we might have a shot at, please add more guys.
Royals- Meche
A’s- Duchscherer
Reds- Harang Arroyo(for Francesa haha)
Dbacks- Garland Davis
Padres- Gaudin
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great list of names…i would add Paul Maholms…He has about 2 years and 11 million left on his deal and is the highest paid Buc…wow that’s saying something about that team
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....es_08.html
word has it Seattle didn’t even get back to Cashman
1- I hope we DESTROY Seattle
2- I’m glad the Yankees spend like a New Jersey Housewife in the offseason. Pay Back is a B—-
GO Yanks
“I just fell off the chair.”
Pick yourself up
“A Rod is horrible batting clean up this year”
247/385/510/895
” and really bad w/RISP.”
actually, he is doing better with RISP
256/414/44/858
Just for reference these are his career average
304/389/576/965
So, he is a tad down from his average, but he is coming back from surgery and has 19 Homeruns and 57 RBI in 71 games
and the yankees were 2 games under 500 before he came back…but yeah, you were saying you fell off the chair…
do you know what the title of this movie:
http://www.atdhe.net/6420/watch-movies
Franco, it is because of their pitching…not A Rod. Can you imagine Manny or Albert batting behind Tex? They’d be hitting .300, not leaving runners on all the time. A Rod has been a huge disappointment batting clean up. He is striking out left and right. He isn’t that much of a threat behind Tex.
“I highly doubt joba going from 100 innings last year to 160 is dangerous. You need to care for your pitchers but not baby them. Chamberlain is going to be a top starter in this rotation for years to come so if you don’t increase his innings how will he ever be able to live up to his potential.”
I was under the impression that 60 innings was an increase? But if you want Mark Prior than they should push him to 220+
I would walk Tex to get to A Rod if I were opposing manager…
Well if the Yanks have this same bullpen w/ACE being injured, good luck in the playoffs. Cash and Yanks should be disappointed that no pitching was gained today.
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I suspect Francisco Cordero will pass thru waivers, if you want to take on his big contract.
“I’m not saying I have any interest in these pitchers but Arroyo, Harang and Francisco Cordero have big $$$$ remaining and could easily be dumped onto a team claiming them off waivers. Ditto Barry Zito”
Yankee Trader:
I know you didn’t mean any harm, but you should be banned for typing Barry Zito’s name
A-Rod’s spring training was May and he was still recovering from the hip surgery on top of it.
It appears that Halladay would not approve a deal to the Rangers and that may have been the major stumbling block.
Can’t wait to hear his rationale. Texas’ owner Hick’s is having some financial woes so I wonder if Halladay worried about getting paid.
http://tinyurl.com/m4co9e
D.
Stop being a downer. They are not going get swept by the White Sox, and when it is all said and done the Red Sox aren’t winning the division. The Red Sox always do worse in the second half and come out strong in the first half. So chill !!!
bru
Look up the increase in innings pitced for Lester the last 3yrs. It will suprise you.
“I would walk Tex to get to A Rod if I were opposing manager…”
You wouldn’t be a manager very long.
RDM July 31st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Franco, it is because of their pitching…not A Rod. Can you imagine Manny or Albert batting behind Tex? They’d be hitting .300, not leaving runners on all the time. A Rod has been a huge disappointment batting clean up. He is striking out left and right. He isn’t that much of a threat behind Tex.
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I’m sure opposing pitchers would disagree with you. HA HA HA HA HA
“Can you imagine Manny or Albert batting behind Tex? ”
well manny wouldn’t have been able to play in 50 games
“It appears that Halladay would not approve a deal to the Rangers and that may have been the major stumbling block”
smart man. I wouldn’t have either
“People forget some of the role players that were on the teams of the 90s.”
It’s called Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Clay Who? Nope, doesn’t ring a bell.
anyone have an assessment on the package of players the Angels were offering for Halladay?
should JP have done the deal?
People crack me up..just watch A Rod, watch his at bats…enough said. he goes 1-4 or 1-5 every night and usually that hit is meaningless, let alone w/RISP…he isn’t that good in the 4th hole.
Joe I
July 31st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
This from Feinsand on twitter…
Lineup was incorrectly posted… Damon instead of Swisher
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This does not change the “Guess the Line Up” results.
Joe Girardi still wins. Please practice over the weekend.
No winner two days in a row is very saddening
“Here is the list of starters I came up with that we might have a shot at, please add more guys.”
Just reading this list makes me angry (nothing about the list haha, just that our inept GM slept through the deadline and now we are relegated to making a bad waiver deal) …..thanks for not doing your job, Cashman.
I can’t believe he seriously asked the Royals to send over the remainder of money owed Brian Bannister. I hope no one is trying to defend his epic ineptitude. You’re supposed to TRADE with Kansas City, Cash, not pretend youre THEIR general manager!
UGH! Pathetic. I am done with Cashman. I used to be a supporter of his but we’re now officially breaking up. He had a chance to keep the Yankees on top, but noooo. One lousy arm is all we needed. One lousy arm!! And what do we get? The 8th 3rd baseman on the roster with a big side helping of MORE SERGIO MITRE. AWESOME. I’m brimming with excitement. Thanks for doing your job Cash!!! Ugh…
The Blogger Formerly Known as Dan
I said that if we don’t increase his innings to that level then he won’t be ready for a full load next year. I was responding to a poster saying the increase is dangerous.
RDM-
Do you watch any of the games? A-Rod has been doing pretty well with helping the team, since ya know the majority of his homers and rbi have put the Yankees ahead in games, but whatever, enjoy watching baseball through your eyes.
RDM – Where do you suggest they bat A-Rod
D – sounds more like a bad trip on acid. Are you sure you’re not a troll with a roomate named Skip who wears his Red Sox cap backwards?
Well, although there were a lot of cheers for fatso (steroids be damned I guess), the O’s fans booed him soundly – especially when he Kd.
“Franco, it is because of their pitching…not A Rod. Can you imagine Manny or Albert batting behind Tex? They’d be hitting .300, not leaving runners on all the time. A Rod has been a huge disappointment batting clean up. He is striking out left and right. He isn’t that much of a threat behind Tex.”
RDM you are a big time disgrace if you are infact a yankee fan..you are much more annoying than matt…atleast matt makes SOME good points..you, on the otherhand are just insane..Arod has hit 19 homeruns this year and has almost as many rbi’s as hits!..yea his average is bad but hes walking a lot and has gotten a lot of big times whether you admit to it or not.
bru – I actually looked up Edinson Volquez’ stats on BaseballReference.com, earlier in the day when someone somewhere noted he was pulled from his sim game about the time there was speculation AJax was going to Cincy –
He jumped from about 30 innings two years ago to 170 IP last year. That’s the kind of jump that got him in trouble.
I don’t know about Joba and the difference in going to 140s-to-160. I would hope they are being prudent, but his situation is no where near Volquez’ at the hand of Dusty Baker.
Why would Doc want to pitch in the heat of Texas? I’m not surprised that they weren’t on his list, if that’s the case……..
“One lousy arm!!”
Kei Igawa says, “Hi!”
“People crack me up..just watch A Rod, watch his at bats…enough said. he goes 1-4 or 1-5 every night and usually that hit is meaningless, let alone w/RISP…he isn’t that good in the 4th hole”
Hey, dont let the facts get in the way of your arguments.
“I said that if we don’t increase his innings to that level then he won’t be ready for a full load next year. I was responding to a poster saying the increase is dangerous.”
My mistake. We are on the same page then.
Man, listened to Victor Martinez on MLB, he was very upset over being traded. Talked about wishing he could wear just one uniform for his career.
# RDM July 31st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
People crack me up..just watch A Rod, watch his at bats…enough said. he goes 1-4 or 1-5 every night and usually that hit is meaningless, let alone w/RISP…he isn’t that good in the 4th hole.
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Elias says you’re full of BS and they actually do the research to prove it.
14 of A-Rod’s 19 homers this season have come when the margin was 2 runs or less for either team.
I’m done with your nonsense.
Oh and as for Seattle – grunge sucks and I am throwing a party the day that juiced up whiner Griffey Jr retires ringless! ….at the same time the Oklahoma City Thunder are winning back-to-back-to-back-to-back championships and Kevin Durant is winning 18 consecutive MVP’s. Seriously, they ask Montero from us and then give Washburn to Detroit for Luke French? DIAF!
Worst trade deadline EVER.
BBB is beyond disgusted with Cashman’s inactivity
July 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
“Here is the list of starters I came up with that we might have a shot at, please add more guys.”
Just reading this list makes me angry (nothing about the list haha, just that our inept GM slept through the deadline and now we are relegated to making a bad waiver deal) …..thanks for not doing your job, Cashman.
I can’t believe he seriously asked the Royals to send over the remainder of money owed Brian Bannister. I hope no one is trying to defend his epic ineptitude. You’re supposed to TRADE with Kansas City, Cash, not pretend youre THEIR general manager!
UGH! Pathetic. I am done with Cashman. I used to be a supporter of his but we’re now officially breaking up. He had a chance to keep the Yankees on top, but noooo. One lousy arm is all we needed. One lousy arm!! And what do we get? The 8th 3rd baseman on the roster with a big side helping of MORE SERGIO MITRE. AWESOME. I’m brimming with excitement. Thanks for doing your job Cash!!! Ugh…
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I am sorry, but did I miss the page in the rulebook that says Cashman owes you something??
If you are a Yankee fan, root for the Yankees. Bottom line. For better or for worse. Not for the team they could be, not for the team you wish they were. Just root for them the way they are.
Brian Cashman does not owe you a thing
BBB-
So you bash Cashman for his “ineptitude”, but then point out the absurd things other GM’s wanted Cashman to give up. What do you expect him to do?
12 of Arod’s homerun have been when the score has been within 1 run margin…that 12 of his 19
starting pitchers for first game of Yanks-Bosox next week.
Mitre v. Smoltz.
Ugh.
“Why would Doc want to pitch in the heat of Texas? I’m not surprised that they weren’t on his list, if that’s the case”
said this right along. Ditto for the Mets
“Man, listened to Victor Martinez on MLB, he was very upset over being traded.”
A non whiteboy going to Boston? I’d be upset if I were him too!
Jerry Hairston Jr.: can he catch a ball in the outfield? Thats all I care about. my worst nightmare is having damon AND Swisher in the OF late in a game with the lead.
Melky, Garder, Hairston late in a game with a lead?
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....ch_th.html
A-Rod clutch this year
By JUSTIN TERRANOVA
“It’s an A-Bomb! From A-Rod! And the Yankees now lead 13-2.”
That’s not an exact John Sterling quote, but for sure the Yankees’ play-by-play man has uttered something similar to that many times. A lot has been made of Alex Rodriguez’s penchant for coming through when the Yankees need it least.
But this year has been a different story for the Yankees slugger, who missed the first 28 games of the season with a hip injury.
Ten of A-Rod’s 19 home runs have either put the Yankees ahead or tied the game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. Twelve of those 19 home runs have come in one-run games, and one has come in a game where the margin has been greater than four runs.
With two outs and runners in scoring in position, Rodriguez is hitting .265, which is not great but is eight points higher than his .257 overall average. And his on base percentage in those situations is .479, which shows trust in his teammates and to not put all the pressure on his own, much-maligned shoulders.
OK Ralphie and Franco….if the Yanks get to the playoffs, A Rod will do his disappearing act like the last few years..wait and see….no one gets excited when A Rod comes up. Look at 80% people on this blog…we just hope he puts the ball in play….whatever..you are right, he is the greatest cleanup hitter this year in MLB, period…I am wrong…
RS fleeced Shapiro for VMart.
That said, he isn’t going to help that much offensively – somebody (Poopi, Lowell) has to lose ABs
Dusty Baker is POISON to young pitchers – how he’s still managing is beyond nuts
BBB,
So Cashman should give up Montero, Joba/Hughes, AJax, and saay Pena for a starting pitcher and a reliever?
No thanks. Go Cash.
The trade deadline is over!
The trade deadline is over!
I’ll be popping bottles tonight at various Manhattan lounges in celebration.
Sox get Martinez. Ehh. I just wish they had to give up a little more but he’s been slumping and isn’t a high impact addition IMO.
“Man, listened to Victor Martinez on MLB, he was very upset over being traded. Talked about wishing he could wear just one uniform for his career”
by the time he leaves Boston, he’ll still wish he had just worn one uniform.
BBB is beyond disgusted with Cashman’s inactivity
July 31st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
“Man, listened to Victor Martinez on MLB, he was very upset over being traded.”
A non whiteboy going to Boston? I’d be upset if I were him too!
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Right- cause David Ortiz is a white guy. Pete- please ban this dude for racism and stupidity!!!!!!!
77513
July 31st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
“So according to rotoworld Matt Garza will not be suspended. Thanks Watson. Tell me again how there is no Yankee bias?”
I dont understand how Burnett got suspended for 5 days.
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this is one way to limit joba’s innings because what this does is make joba wan’t to get even.
joba will throw inside & get suspended when watson should have done the right thing & defuse the situation.
instead he pours gas over the flames.
Vince, I’m guessing the yanks will skip Mitre with the Day off on Monday and then go AJ, CC, Joba vs. Boston.
“I am sorry, but did I miss the page in the rulebook that says Cashman owes you something??
If you are a Yankee fan, root for the Yankees. Bottom line. For better or for worse. Not for the team they could be, not for the team you wish they were. Just root for them the way they are.
Brian Cashman does not owe you a thing”
You rock Erica.
“ook at 80% people on this blog…”
coming up with random numbers made out of thin air does not prove your argument. If you are so sure that he is so bad, why don’t you prove it with real numbers…
We will all be waiting. Please dont post anything until you come back with actual facts…
MaineYankee
Is right Bru. Lester Pitched a total of 63 innings when he was 23 same age as Joba during the 2007 season. The next year Lester pitched 210 innings- that was the 2008 season.
Chamberlain has pitched more innings then Lester when he was 23. He went up dramatically in innings, you have to care for your pitchers but not baby them or they will never develop.
Ramey – Pay Brian Bannister his salary! That’s all I expected him to do! I have no problem with not giving up a king’s ransom for Washburn’s and his 4 career ERA, in fact it’s wise, but the refusal to pay Bannister his meager salary is absolutely indefensible IMHO. And he couldn’t make a deal for a reliever? Really? He’s gonna stick with Mitre in the rotation all year? Hate to say it but Mitre is the new Ponson! The only difference is this year itll be 2nd place instead of 3rd.
“Dusty Baker is POISON to young pitchers – how he’s still managing is beyond nuts”
the head of the NAACP, even wonders the same.
Yankees sign Eric Gagne
Aww- Thanks Trisha
Can we please for the love of god ban RDM, having to read his drivel every night gets old.
The Yankees sign Eric Gagne per MLBTR
Can all of the bridge jumping, cashman hating, the yankees need to play perfect baseball and go 162 – 0, cano hating, swisher hating, a-rod bashing, “yankee fans”, just put “i’m negative” in their tag name, so I know not to read anything they post?
hope so, josh. good thought.
Why do people respond to RDM?
She’s a broken record everyday.
I’m sure this is just a coincidence but for the first time since they’ve gone on-line, the Red Sox syncophant Providence Journal has not been accessible. Perhaps they needed the Wah wah wambulance for the sports department who didn’t quite know how to cover the story about Crappy on Roids? Or worse, were so inconsolable that they couldn’t write?
BBB cannot be a Yankee fan. There is no way.
Rain tonight too?
“Lester Pitched a total of 63 innings when he was 23 same age as Joba during the 2007 season. The next year Lester pitched 210 innings- that was the 2008 season.”
Lester pitched 90 innings in the minors that year, so in total he pitched 153 innings
“Brian Cashman does not owe you a thing””
cashman’s problem is i owe him something
Does the BBB stand for Bloviating Brash Buffoon?
Erica – No I don’t think Cashman owes me anything, but I would like a GM that makes every effort to put the best team on the field, as I think all fans would. Cashman did not do that today. We had needs that could have been addressed cheaply, and he failed to address them. It’s that simple, and it isn’t the first time. Cashman is great at filling big holes, but fails consistently at filling little ones. I’m not the only person who feels that way and I don’t see how my pointing out his failure equates to claiming he owes me anything, but thanks for putting incorrect words in my mouth?
Oh, and even more LOLZ for calling me a racist for pointing out that perhaps a player of color isn’t too thrilled to be going to play for the most racist sports city and most racist fan base in America. Youre doing almost as well as Cashman did today!
“No I don’t think Cashman owes me anything, but I would like a GM that makes every effort to put the best team on the field”
Ha, well what do you know about that. Best team in the AL. THANKS CASH!!!
:):)
vince
July 31st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
starting pitchers for first game of Yanks-Bosox next week.
Mitre v. Smoltz.
Ugh.
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I guess you haven’t seen Smoltz pitch this year.
BBB-
When you start making sense and get back off your cashman hating ledge, please, let us all know.
For everyone who has their panties in a knot about Cash…
We have NO IDEA what has been going on behind the scenes. None.
If it’s true that clubs were imposing a NYY Tax in negotiations, then Cash should tell them this:
Get bent.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
Duncan is actually probably and upgrade to Swisher defensively in RF and actually has a strong arm he doesn’t look like a gazelle out there granted but he’s actually an slightly above average defensive player and his bat would be welcome also there is something to be said for rewarding a player when the oppurtunity arises and being that Shells leads the organization in HRs and RBIs he’s earned his callup…Ransom is not as bad as you guys rip him for i mean he is what he is but i agree having Hairston and Ransom on this team is redundant…it would suck for Scranton because losing Shelley’s bat for an extended period would seriously crimp their chance to defend and repeat last years title but oh well move Vazquez up to AAA and let him DH while Shells is in NY
BBB spells entitled…apparently.
“OK Ralphie and Franco….if the Yanks get to the playoffs, A Rod will do his disappearing act like the last few years..wait and see….no one gets excited when A Rod comes up. Look at 80% people on this blog…we just hope he puts the ball in play….whatever..you are right, he is the greatest cleanup hitter this year in MLB, period…I am wrong…”
playoffs are a coin flip…you either hit or you dont…what were you sayin in 2004 when arod was pounding the ball in the playoffs?..you make it sound like arod k’s everytime he comes to the plate..he has a lower k/ab ratio this year than he did last year and almost has more walks than k’s…you are just a clueless person
as people like to say…THATS A FACT!
“BBB cannot be a Yankee fan. There is no way.”
Sorry – Cashman rules, Mitre is perfectly adequate, we didn’t need an arm, and I bet Hairston could even throw a few scoreless innings if required. In fact, that’s probably why Cashman picked him up. He is an evil genius I tell ya!
Better?
Ransom STINKS!!!!!!!! :@
2004, is that the last year the Yanks won the WS?
BBB knows what he is talking about because he as been the GM of his fantasy baseball team. He makes awesome trades all the time.
“Vince, I’m guessing the yanks will skip Mitre with the Day off on Monday and then go AJ, CC, Joba vs. Boston.”
You would think that, then Girardi talks about playing Hairston and Ransom in the same lineup.
That is definitely not BBB who usually posts here. She is one of the most positive posters I have ever seen. Once again we’re dealing with either trolls of very disgruntled Yankee fans who are not happy to just obssess under their own screen names but obviously need to be medicated because they JUST…CANNOT…GET…OVER…THE…FACT that their wishes were ignored.
YAWN!!!
Is Shelley out of options?
BBB- You say he could have improved the team today cheaply, what moves were there? The Mariners wanted Austin Jackson for 2 months of Jarod Washburn, so where were the cheap moves?
“is beyond disgusted with Cashman’s inactivity”
BBB: is it possible for you to overstate this anymore?
bit of an overreaction, i would say
The steroid pig just hit a homer. Wonder if he’s still juicin?
Poopie homers on a 3-0 pitch….
“BBB knows what he is talking about because he as been the GM of his fantasy baseball team. He makes awesome trades all the time.”
Lol that was funny
And Poopi just hit another bomb. Hey bartender! Can I get 3 of those shakes he’s drinking?
3-0 Sux
Well Ortiz still using, he hit a 2 run homerun.
How do you know what kind of effort Cashman put in? How arrogant of you to assume Cashman sat round doing nothing just because a move wasn’t made at this time? Enough is enough.
“BBB- You say he could have improved the team today cheaply, what moves were there? The Mariners wanted Austin Jackson for 2 months of Jarod Washburn, so where were the cheap moves?”
Austin Jackson? He is in the minor leagues. How does that affect the Yankees. OMG we could have gotten Jarod Washburn for AJAX DUMB…………..
BBB – How do any of us know what discussions Cash did or did not have? The reports I read – for what they’re worth – indicated that other teams were asking for some combination of Joba, Phil Hughes, and Jesus Montero. Is Jarrod Washburn worth that? Last year, I remember the Seattle GM saying he was deliberately asking NY for more, just to show that he wasn’t being bossed around by the big, bad New Yorkers. It sounds silly, but when you read him asking more from the Yanks than what he gets from his ultimate trading partner, you wonder.
What happened with the likes of Bannister, say, I have no idea. If what’s in the media is accurate, Hal and the Steinbrenner family may have found religion. I personally have no idea. But if true, Cash can only do as told. Just like any other GM. And who knows, maybe Billy Eppler and the scouts weren’t that impressed with Bannister and his ability in the AL East to begin with.
I personally think JP Ricciardi is going to lose his job over his failure to lower payroll by more than Scott Rolen.
BBB – How do any of us know what discussions Cash did or did not have? The reports I read – for what they’re worth – indicated that other teams were asking for some combination of Joba, Phil Hughes, and Jesus Montero. Is Jarrod Washburn worth that? Last year, I remember the Seattle GM saying he was deliberately asking NY for more, just to show that he wasn’t being bossed around by the big, bad New Yorkers. It sounds silly, but when you read him asking more from the Yanks than what he gets from his ultimate trading partner, you wonder.
What happened with the likes of Bannister, say, I have no idea. If what’s in the media is accurate, Hal and the Steinbrenner family may have found religion. I personally have no idea. But if true, Cash can only do as told. Just like any other GM. And who knows, maybe Billy Eppler and the scouts weren’t that impressed with Bannister and his ability in the AL East to begin with.
I personally think JP Ricciardi is going to lose his job over his failure to lower payroll by more than Scott Rolen.
“BBB knows what he is talking about because he as been the GM of his fantasy baseball team. He makes awesome trades all the time.”
8 team league ?
OK, this is the last thing I’m gonna say. If you guys are comfortable with our rotation and pitching depth, more power to you. I’m quite frankly not. Cashman had many options to cheaply aquire a starter or reliever (I am NOT ADVOCATING the Washburn move) and chose not to. If you guys are cool with that, cool. Why is it so hard for many of you to accept that I’m not cool with it? Why resort to personal attacks just because I don’t agree that he had a good trade deadline? Are you THAT uncomfortable with someone questioning the apparent genius of Brian Cashman? Geez, I feel differently than most of you….sorry? Thought this interwebs thing was supposed to be an exchange of often divergent, didn’t realize I’d stumbled onto the Brian Cashman Admiration Society, my bad!
Have a nice night all. Go Yankees! Hope Mitre doesn’t make us cringe too much, but cmon, it’s Sergio Mitre.
Truth be told, I thought the Brian Bannister deal was a slam dunk as far back as 3 weeks ago….I guess the Brother Stienbrenners’ have put awaythe check book for 2009…..Rotation is thin, and the pen is basically a committe of 3…..Aceves, Bruney , Marte & Melanchon time to step up is now…..Hairston was an excellent pickup….
I’m telling you that is not the BBB who has posted on this forum. I fear tonight will be fright night by every scarred Yankee fan who didn’t get to be GM today. It’s sick.
I’ll probably end up enjoying the game from a “safer” vantage point. I have no desire to read their disconsolate whining all night.
Hey “BBB” – I couldn’t be happier that Cashman didn’t make any major trade!!!!! Suck that up.
When will Ian Kennnedy be back?Has he started pitching again?
Assumptions are a wonderful thing. It’s even more precious when people take their assumptions of what went on/what someone did or didn’t do and run with it as fact and go on a complaining rampage.
GO ORIOLES!!!!!
roger-Kennedy has started throwing again:
http://www.google.com/hostedne.....gD99L0TTO3
Roger:
next to the Yankees, watching Team Amsterdam was the highlight of my baseball season. Hope all is well : )
I’m not going to lie,
John Smoltz looks much much better than he has this season.
He is throwing his slider almost exclusively and is commanding it very well.
He just made a solid play in the field too.
Of course, it’s only the 3rd inning. There is still time for him to implode.
Lol I can picture some of the Yankee fans just pulling their hair out at 3:59 until 4:20.
Then just caving into their chair in disbelief so “utter stupidity in the FO”
The only real gripe about the lack of action on Cashman’s part is from what we have heard. Wanting salary relief for Bannister is one such item.
The one area the Yankees could have used help with was pitching. Yet Bannister would have had to come with salary relief? For less than a million?
He didn’t do bad with the Hairiston, but that didn’t address the weakness of the outfield, it only made the bench a little better.
We all know that Joba has innings limitations. They lost Wang. Mitre hasn’t been great and Pettitte is a question mark given his age and effectiveness.
Even a relief pitcher could have helped so they could consider stretching out Aceves or Hughes if they were in a pinch.
It was a tough market, but when you saw what even Lee went for, you can’t really believe that the clubs wouldn’t do a better deal with the Yankees.
Cashman was in stealth mode… yeah… and he got nothing but a poor reputation for looking for small market clubs to pay for the privilege of giving up a player to the Yankees.
Doing a pick up in August will be tougher unless the Yankees fall in the division. That isn’t a very promising scenario.
Just looking at Big Sloppy, I find it hard to fathom him using the old ‘I got it at GNC’ excuse…Somebody with a body like that never shops at GNC….now KFC, that I’d buy!!!
btw, Washburn pitching in this stadium may have been trouble anyway
Cashman had many options to cheaply aquire a starter or reliever (I am NOT ADVOCATING the Washburn move) and chose not to
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Like what.
Please list them all in detail. Who were we giving up for which player and why the other team would have agreed to it. Thanks!
“No I don’t think Cashman owes me anything, but I would like a GM that makes every effort to put the best team on the field”
Hmmm. It’s a shame he didn’t go after the top three FAs, Burnett, CC and Tex, when he had a chance. You have a point there.
Smoltz will be done by the 5th – maybe 6th
If RS were smart he’d be Masterson’s replacement
I think Mr Ortiz of the Roid Sox was nervous all year about being outed…
Now that it’s done…he’s more relaxed…
Gone yard 2 days in a row.
And somehow he’s a bigger hero than ever on Boston.
Maybe Canseco was right…
He talked about an HOF on roids…
Who?
Ricky???
”
The Yankees sign Eric Gagne per MLBTR”
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I think Pete said posting fake stuff like this will get you banned.
Jim – Nick Green already trying to be a “difference maker” tonight!
O’s on the board.
please sergio and offense…be good today…if you guys arent this place will be unreadable for hours…and i dont want to have to leave
Jackson is 0-2 with an RBI
Montero is 2-2 with a double, 1 RBI and 1 run scored
just when Smoltz was getting going, Nick Green stepped in and did his best to mess it up.
Throws the ball away costing them a run.
3-1 Sox, men on 1st and 2nd
Cashman was truly in stealth mode……..who actually saw the Hairston blockbuster coming??? LOL
YES
3-3
Smoltz is falling apart
I JINXED HIM!!!
“Like what.
Please list them all in detail. Who were we giving up for which player and why the other team would have agreed to it. Thanks!”
Also, please add what salary they were willing to take, years left on the contract, and any negotiation window they Cash may have had with the player.
3-3 yeah smoltzie
3-3 Smoltz serves up a golf ball………
“I’m not going to lie,
John Smoltz looks much much better than he has this season.
He is throwing his slider almost exclusively and is commanding it very well.
He just made a solid play in the field too.
Of course, it’s only the 3rd inning. There is still time for him to implode.”
ty…3-3
I’m so scared
Francona and Baldelli arguing…
it was CLEARLY a homerun
And Big Poopi had NO IDEA he failed the test.
Yup.
-Smoltz is mowing them down… or not.
BD 2.0 July 31st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
YES
3-3
Smoltz is falling apart
I JINXED HIM!!!
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Good job!
Boy John Smolz is the ace in the hole for the yankees.
With R*d S*x winning, I’m even more scared of Carrasco
WTH they are replaying it!
We are going to go crazy on Brian Cashman because he didn’t step up to acquire Brian Freakin Bannister? Seriously?
A little less now, but still very scared
“With R*d S*x winning, I’m even more scared of Carrasco”
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fear not young grasshoppa,
Sox aren’t winning no mo’!!!
BD nice call.
I think the John Smoltz Experiment may be nearing an end soon.
Justice in action kids. Saved me the trouble of saying “if there’s a God the Orioles will take this game.”
Yahoo.
“Maybe Canseco was right…
He talked about an HOF on roids…
Who?
Ricky???”
I would bet on Canseco being right. I’ll bet he just wrote down every person he knew taking steroids while playing and kept the list to use sparingly when he needed some cash. He will probably write another book “The Tainted Hall of Famer”
The Blogger Formerly Known as Dan
July 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Lol I can picture some of the Yankee fans just pulling their hair out at 3:59 until 4:20.
Then just caving into their chair in disbelief so “utter stupidity in the FO”
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Not me- I was furiously organizing line up submissions. LOL
HA HA HA HA HA!
As if there were any question. Well, we do have a better vantage point than they do.
“I think the John Smoltz Experiment may be nearing an end soon”
John Smoltz is there to stay. Their rotation is in trouble. Beckette, Lester, Cliff (and I’m not talking about Lee).
“Hmmm. It’s a shame he didn’t go after the top three FAs, Burnett, CC and Tex, when he had a chance. You have a point there”
well played. It’s the equivelent of asking your parents if you can open all your gifts on Christmas Eve, and then complaining the next day you don’t have any presents.
I said that the Red Sox main weakness is just not their offense but their back end of the rotation. Penny, Smoltz, and Clay are garbage !!!
Guess the homerun stood. HAHA
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What is a Jersey Kooze?
Yanks should have tried to trade for Grady Sizemore, being the Indians were giving players away…
“BD nice call.
I think the John Smoltz Experiment may be nearing an end soon.”
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I wasn’t kidding either. He looked really sharp over the first 2.
He just doesn’t have the fastball anymore though.
When he throws it, it gets hit.
Slider looks much improved but that alone isn’t enough, clearly.
Memo to the bridge jumpers:
The price for Jarrod Wasburn was Austin Jackson. For a two-month rental, that would have been stupid.
The price for Halladay was Joba or Hughes + three other high level prospects. Plus, obviously, all the money left on his deal. Not happening.
Who else did you want them to get? KC set a high, high price on Bannister, a guy who was putrid last year. They did not need a position player and none of those available would have helped them.
Tragically, you’re left with a first-place team with the second-best record in baseball. Try and live with that, I guess.
“Not me- I was furiously organizing line up submissions. LOL”
Haha good work Erica. Your service is much appreciated.
Ortiz seemed to have the season turn around once his father came to visit from the DR.
Is it being relaxed or rejuvenated by a magic shake?
Rickey Henderson
say it ain’t so
Problem is, the Sox are hammering Guthrie.
They almost hit 3 HR last inning.
Markakis had to jump at the wall to rob Pedroia.
Reimold pretty much robbed Lowell of one at the wall in left.
Well said Pete.
Ok. I just got home from work. In a nutshell who were todays deadline winners and losers. Thanks
TR*LL L*SER WARNING
Feel free t* ign*re the tr*ll wh* uses the screenname Y*u Kn*w Wh*.
It is a Sux tr*ll that has returned t* try t* undermine the Yankee acc*mplishments by pretending to fear the SUX and w*rry ab*ut the Yankees.
Karma is a blitch, tr*ll!
“Yanks should have tried to trade for Grady Sizemore, being the Indians were giving players away…”
Cleveland would be up in arms.
Pete I agree.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
It just pisses you off b/c of the double standard (what PHI got for Lee, BOS got for VMart)
JP is toast at year’s end anyway
Mr. Smoltz will be a difference maker before all is said and done! You watch!
He is the difference between the RS making the playoffs and not making the playoffs. (hopefully the latter not the former)
Os tied the Sox.
nice hustling jeter!
love me that hustle Jete!!
That’s why you hustle, kids!
@vinny
haha thanks.Still can’t believe some people here thought that Amsterdam was a country…I mean come on!!
Jeter was out. But I’ll take it.
The Red Sox are going to win a few games this year – why get upset because they are beating an inferior team?
Pat M, we don’t know what held up the Bannister trade. If it was just finances, I’d be very disappointed. More than likely, the Royals were trying to fleece the Yankees just like every other team does. In the future, the Yanks might have to be a bit more creative because no team is ever going to help them……..I guess the Sox are still considered a cute and cuddly team as teams have no problem helping them
“Ok. I just got home from work. In a nutshell who were todays deadline winners and losers. Thanks”
It’s tough to say. Sox got V-Mart, ChiSox got DL Peavy. Chisox gave up a lot, and Sox gave up their only emergency started.
Plus Sox traded LaRouch to Braves for Kotchman. So… Braves won.
Washburn went to Tigers for French and some other pitcher. Not bad for them in that ball park.
Other than that, pretty nuetral.
Jeter continues to move up the all time hit list.
59. Omar Vizquel 2683 B
60. Luis Aparicio+ 2677 R
61. Ivan Rodriguez 2676 R
62. Gary Sheffield) 2675 R
63. Fred Clarke+ 2672 L
64. Max Carey+ 2665 B
64. Derek Jeter 2665 R
Memo to the bridge jumpers:
The price for Jarrod Wasburn was Austin Jackson. For a two-month rental, that would have been stupid.
The price for Halladay was Joba or Hughes + three other high level prospects. Plus, obviously, all the money left on his deal. Not happening.
Who else did you want them to get? KC set a high, high price on Bannister, a guy who was putrid last year. They did not need a position player and none of those available would have helped them.
Tragically, you’re left with a first-place team with the second-best record in baseball. Try and live with that, I guess.
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Doomed!
Some people around here, I swear
Nice hustle Jeets!
Their emergency started being Masterson.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
Let’s not kid ourselves either, even if Smoltz ends up pitching ok. He’s not been that great…….
Also Nick Johnson to the Marlins was a nice move for them to stay in that crazy nl wildcard race.
Question regarding waivers. The only way the Yankees will get someone from waivers is if they are owed a lot of money. Now stupid question that I should know the answer to. Do they have to trade players? Or do they just claim and get the player?
Yanks need to get to this pitcher early, and get into the Sox pen, it can set up the rest of the series…..
tex!!!!
how does Damon not score
thank you Jake Peavy!
Tarheelyank:
WINNERS
RedSox (for stealing a player as usual)
Twins (for getting a damm good player – O Cabrera)
Philly (Cliff Lee)
Tigers (for stealing Washburn)
Padres (for not bowing to the RedSox and taking their overated prospects)
LOSERS
Cleveland (for giving Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez to charity)
Seattle (for prefering garbage, rather then returning a call to Cashman)
Bobby Jenks not pitching because he got kidney stone?
I was running a marathon with a kidney stone.
here is bannisters line from last year
182.2 innings pitched
215 hits allowed
127 runs allowed
29 homers
58 walks
113 k’s
5.77 ERA
why is Cash supposed to trade away even a “hit-away” and then pay him for that type production again?
and could you imagine the balls flying out the stadium when he pitched…they’d have to redirect the plane traffic on days he was starting in the BX….good job Cash
nice arod
The Blogger Formerly Known as Dan
Thanks! I have some reading to catch up on.
Jeter starts the rally with hustle.
But Dan since the RS system is so “loaded” as we’ve been told, they’ll just bring someone up, right? Like Bowden, who Gammons blathers about all the time.
Don’t believe the hype – RS didn’t help themselves enough (read: no Doc or Gonzalez). Good luck with that.
good ab by Alex….
and nice matsui…sergio is gonna need these lol
gotta love it
Carrasco will be lucky to last 2 innnings
the pen is going to be worked
ipo July 31st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Bobby Jenks not pitching because he got kidney stone?
I was running a marathon with a kidney stone.
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Oh give me a break, what a load. Kidney stones are very painful. stop this nonsense.
I hope they will score 10 (at least) in the first inning for Mitre.
Hawk Harrelson said on the broadcast tonight, and I kidd you not..that last night’s umpiring performance was one of the best he has seen this year. Wow, utterly pathetic
3-0
Amazing that the Yankees are able to overcome Brian Cashman’s cruel unwillingness to trade his best prospects by scoring three runs in the first inning. I fully expected the team to forfeit tonight in protest.
Hip hip Jorge even in Chicago.
MaineYankee
July 31st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
bru
Look up the increase in innings pitced for Lester the last 3yrs. It will suprise you.
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that means nothing.
lester is not having as good of a year as last year.
he might be tired.
i have no idea whatsoever if the stories are true that a pitcher should not be increased more than 30 innings from the previous year but i feel more comfortable if joba was increased 30 innings a year so we at least rule overuse out if he does get hurt.
we are in a very very tough spot.
A Rod so clutch…
cant blame Posada but I’d like to see him take a pitch or two when he’s up 2-0 in the count
they had Carrasco against the ropes. make him sweat as much as you can.
vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge)
Thanks.
After last night, I am not sure Matsui should be getting out of the way on a DP grounder.
Josh from NC July 31st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Hawk Harrelson said on the broadcast tonight, and I kidd you not..that last night’s umpiring performance was one of the best he has seen this year. Wow, utterly pathetic
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are you serious? what is wrong with that guy? It was so good that all the players were ticked off when they left the plate.
Time for Mitre
“A Rod so clutch…”
yep.. rbi=clutch
Jennifer – as I understand the waiver process, once a claim is placed, the sending team can either release the player, or pull him back and try to work a deal with the claiming team. If no deal is reached, that player can not be re-placed on waivers that season.
Does anyone else have other info?
jennifer- If the Yankees claim a player off waivers they can either be awarded the player – think Canseco in 2000 – or they can trade for him. Teams can pull a player off waivers if the player is claimed
If a player ‘clears’ waivers (goes unclaimed) he is free to be traded to any team.
I just came out of the shower and missed the first inning. But wow, I’m glad the Yankees got their bats rolling early for Mitre.
well I was fooled. I figured the Yanks would work the pitch count of Carrasco.
only 19 pitches – 3 runs, 4 hits.
I guess they want him to stay around as long as he can.
L to the 2nd,
Agreed, I believe the RS are going to struggle with the staff they have. The Rays will find them self right in the mix very soon. With Kazmir looking better as he gets stronger the Sox may take the backseat. Offense doesn’t win it all, and frankly they didn’t get enough offense to make a huge difference.
Which is another reason why Cashman didn’t have to make a deal. Yankees still own the best offense in the AL East, and have the best staff. Only Peter Gammons and most Yankee fans on here would tell you different.
What a nice way to start the game, I barely blinked and it’s 3-0.
I’ll bet to a man, no Yankee player realistically thought the team would land Halladay knowing what Toronto would be asking for.
If the right waiver deal comes along, Cashman will do it and the players are well aware of it.
Well since I bravely predicted earlier today that the Yanks would take the next three games (sorry it was before we knew Carrasco was starting – but even moreso now!) I guess I’ll sit back and try to project negative vibes to the Sux.
Enjoy tonight’s game all. From my perspective today was a most satisfying day. This GM feels the Yankees did a fine job of preserving the system. I also agree that, as Pete says, if deals need to be done, they will be.
GO YANKEES!!
GO ORIOLES!!!
Bleich is pitching well against Pittsburgh’s AA team. 4 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts. Just struck out Alverez on an overhand curve.
Thanks, that is what I thought.
I finally figured out who the troll RDM is –
either Madonna or Kate Hudson’s ex.
“A Rod so clutch…”
All those that understand baseball know that with 0 outs and a man on 3rd anything to the SS or 2B is a great piece of hitting.
lazy play by cano….
Nice Robbie.
“Thought this interwebs thing was supposed to be an exchange of often divergent, didn’t realize I’d stumbled onto the Brian Cashman Admiration Society, my bad!”
i could have told you that.
i think that people admire brian cashman precisely because he’s so unimpressive. most people think they could be him. so they like him. he makes them feel good like maybe if he could do it they could too.
and of course they are right. give almost anyone 400 million to spend last winter and they’d have ended up with an improved team too
I hope that wasn’t Hinske’s top speed.
Cano and Jeter are both great at those popups.
Cano decided to play both 2b and RF tonight! Haha great play by Robi.
Jeremy Guthrie has thrown about 10 meatballs over 4 innings.
He’s lucky he’s only given up 2 HR so far
Yanks are still have a club that can go all the way, they just have to stay healthy…Cannot absorb anymore injuries….Great play by Cano…
“I finally figured out who the troll RDM is –
either Madonna or Kate Hudson’s ex”
or a woman who once hung out with Lenny Kravitz
That 0-2 pitch looked pretty good to me…
montero 2for2 with a double..nice!
“Bleich is pitching well against Pittsburgh’s AA team. 4 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts. Just struck out Alverez on an overhand curve.”
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thanks for the update.
here’s a guy that’s worth keeping an eye on.
4-3 RS – the angry elf just HR’ed
Eck talking about the fact that the Yankees did make a “blockbuster deal”. “When you’re playing the way they’re playing at this time of the season, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
Didn’t Jeremy Guthrie used to be good once? Baltimore has a horrible Red Sox-phobia.
“Bleich is pitching well against Pittsburgh’s AA team. 4 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts. Just struck out Alverez on an overhand curve.”
One of my beer league softball buddies was asked to play for the Pirates AA team. He probably got the hit.
“4-3 RS – the angry elf just HR’ed”
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no, Ellsbury drove a flat fastball right down the middle over the wall in right.
PEdroia singled but was caught stealing by a mile.
(Peter Abraham
July 31st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Memo to the bridge jumpers:
The price for Jarrod Wasburn was Austin Jackson. For a two-month rental, that would have been stupid.
The price for Halladay was Joba or Hughes + three other high level prospects. Plus, obviously, all the money left on his deal. Not happening.
Who else did you want them to get? KC set a high, high price on Bannister, a guy who was putrid last year. They did not need a position player and none of those available would have helped them.
Tragically, you’re left with a first-place team with the second-best record in baseball. Try and live with that, I guess.)
PETE,
You are very funny man!! LOL…..
Why is Cano playing Thome there, he keeps hitting the ball right of him
There is that crazy shift again?
Is the heckler from Tampa on vacation in Chicago? Someone has a loud voice close to home plate tonight.
Are you there Jarrod?? It’s me Cashman
BD 2.0
July 31st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
“Bleich is pitching well against Pittsburgh’s AA team. 4 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 0 walks, 4 strikeouts. Just struck out Alverez on an overhand curve.”
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thanks for the update.
here’s a guy that’s worth keeping an eye on.
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Yeah, just not sure he was quite ready to be moved to AA this fast. He was fine at Tampa, but, has struggled some in AA.
Montero is now 2-3…robbed of a single to right.
Not looking good for Mitre. Thome should have struck out on 3 pitches, but now he has given up 2 hits.
This is 3 starts in a row Mitre’s had a tough 1st.
And I started typing this before Al Leiter said it!
“Didn’t Jeremy Guthrie used to be good once?”
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I seem to remember him throwing mid-high 90′s.
He’s at 92 tonight with little movement and he’s leaving it right down the middle of the plate.
Why is Cano Playing, Thome there, the ball keeps going right of him.
Sorry, my bad – it was Ellsbury
if only Mitre had started yesterday
Come on, Mitre…one more hit and the game is already tied.
Damn 3-1 game now
anyone see this:
Via Twitter, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that the Padres almost dealt Heath Bell and Adrian Gonzalez to the Dodgers for James Loney, Russell Martin, Blake DeWitt, James McDonald and Ivan Dejesus.
At least the Yankees have Mitre pitching for them. Very solid pitcher.
Mitre had Thome struck out there on a perfect 0-2 pitch and it wasn’t called right before these hits that never should have happened. Keep that in mind before you judge, because none of this should have even had a chance to happen.
They gave Carrasco some garbage pitches nowhere close, and Mitre can’t even get a called strike on a pitch right down the middle at the knees. What a joke!
Great job Serge.
Good thing we didn’t pick up another starting pitcher!
amazing how you can go from feeling so good..3-0 yanks..2 outs in the bottom of the 1st..mitre about to have and easy inning and then your on the brink of a tie game or worse..
come on mitre ;(
Betsy can’t be liking this start from Mitre.
I was hoping he’d come out strong and make us all feel better about the rotation.
There’s still time….
Let’s go Sergio!!
This stiff is a joke and should not be on a team w/ a 200 mill payroll.
Very poor job by CASHman….this better be his last start.
I rather see Igawa then Mitre!
Oh boy…is Aceves available tonight? Hughes threw a lot of pitches yesterday…
AJ Pierzynski is one of the most unlikeable players in baseball.
Mitre is leaving everything up. It’s a miracle that Thome’s hit wasn’t deposited in to the seats. Just not a good start.
BBB is beyond disgusted with Cashman’s inactivity
July 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
“Here is the list of starters I came up with that we might have a shot at, please add more guys.”
Just reading this list makes me angry (nothing about the list haha, just that our inept GM slept through the deadline and now we are relegated to making a bad waiver deal) …..thanks for not doing your job, Cashman.
I can’t believe he seriously asked the Royals to send over the remainder of money owed Brian Bannister. I hope no one is trying to defend his epic ineptitude. You’re supposed to TRADE with Kansas City, Cash, not pretend youre THEIR general manager!
UGH! Pathetic. I am done with Cashman. I used to be a supporter of his but we’re now officially breaking up. He had a chance to keep the Yankees on top, but noooo. One lousy arm is all we needed. One lousy arm!! And what do we get? The 8th 3rd baseman on the roster with a big side helping of MORE SERGIO MITRE. AWESOME. I’m brimming with excitement. Thanks for doing your job Cash!!! Ugh…
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your way is the only way we remain on top????
breaking up?
check the standings.we are in 1st place with the best record in baseball i believe.
hairston is a good utility player.
he upgrades our bench especially in the infield,can play almost every position & can steal a base & we got him for nothing.
boston lost 3 pitchers,one is masterson who spot started for them.
they also lost bullpen debth.
it was very clear that teams wanted to rip us off & cash wanted no part of it.
we will get a pitcher or two.
cash is slick.
Sergio Valentie
He did have Thome struck out. Ump missed the call.
Well this is not good
At least Melancon is still here to pitch tonight.
You can put it on the BOARD>YES!!!!!!!!!!!
The old adage. Some of the best deals you make are the ones you don’t make.
Imagine the rage on this blog if Cashman caved in and sent Joba or Hughes, plus Montero, and Romine to the Jays for Halladay.
The ump did not call it so he did not strike out.
He is just terrible and should be in Scranton.
all with 2 outs…what happens if mitre gets knocked out early? ace prbly cant go multiple innings coming off his tired shoulder…
Sergio –
that first pitch to Kotsay
yeah… keep doing that
Umpires can most certainly have a huge impact on a game, and tonight is a prime example.
If the home plate umpire does not miss an obvious pitch right down the middle at the knees, Mitre has a 1-2-3 first on 13 pitches. That missed call has cost him a run and 16 extra pitches.
One missed call changes everything in a ballgame, and people sometimes don’t realize that when they give these guys a pass.
Bru… where exactly are these pitchers that Cashman will get coming from? Other clubs will have first dibs and there are a number of them that can use pitching meaning it will be scraping the bottom of the barrel for the Yankees.
Maybe Shelly Duncan can pitch innnings 2 through 7
29 pitches. Sergio’s not long for this game if he can’t string together a few really conservative innings. Unfortunately, that’s just not the pitcher he is.
The latest issue of US Weekly has a story on A-Rod’s birthday party last weekend. Apparently 40 Yankee teammates and coaches showed up, (but no Jeter). As per the story, “Things got rowdy after the cake. Alex thanked everyone, blew out the candles, then did a fully clothed cannonball into the pool. Kate did the same. Then, as ‘Born to be Wild’ blared on the speakers, guests followed suit.”
Sounds like fun and good team camaraderie.
Mitre isn’t even close to a major league pitcher.
Mitre’s not very good – that’s all I’ll say – although most 5th starters are not good. I still say Cash was right not to trade Austin Jackson for Washburn – that would have been idiotic (and we have yet to hear what the Royals were asking for Bannister).
Aceves is available, but I doubt the Yankees are going to let him throw more than an inning or two coming off of a sore shoulder. I guess the long men would be Robertson and Melancon.
I really wish the Yanks could have picked up another arm for the pen, but again – the Pads would have asked for Joba, Phil, Montero – way too much.
If Cashman had made a trade for a pitcher today you’d still be watching Mitre tonight….. so relax.
Neither one of these starters will be involved in the decision – wake up the bullpens early.
Nice Robbie.
Are you kidding me 29 pitches for 1 inning.
Looks like a tight pitcher duel tonight. (rolls eyes)
And it’s time for the jump on Cashman because our 5th starter isn’t Cy Young.
Cano must have gotten a shipment of Johnny Damon bats. He’s been breaking a lot of them, lately. He never used to do that.
Come on Paul Blart Mall Cop…hit another HR!
Kei Igawa to the rescue?
Red Sox 4 Baltimore 3…Ortiz 2 run homer..of course
It is very disappointing that CASHman could not get anything done. There are too many guys who would be better than this stiff and too bad we did not make a move.
How is Mitre destroying this bullpen? How about you actually look at the reality before you make wild exaggerations?
He pitched 5.2 innings in his first start, and 5 in his last. However, his pitch count was low enough where he could have pitched at least 1 more inning in each of those starts if Girardi gave him the chance.
So I fail to see where Mitre is going to kill this bullpen. He is the 5th starter, what more do you want from the guy? The 5th starter’s job is to keep the team in the game, and he does that every time out. Burnett, CC, Joba, and Pettitte are consistently going 6-7 innings every time out, so a 5-6 inning start from Mitre is hardly taxing the pen because ACEVES can pick up some of the slack.
Betsy you can bet the Royals where asking for the usual suspects: Hughes Chamberlain Jackson Montero etc…
I know some Yanks fans are disappointed but -
1. Halladay didn’t go anywhere
2. Adrian Gonzalez didn’t go to Boston
3. Angels didn’t improve their bullpen
4. Sox improved, but how much??
5. Yanks kept all their prospects
6. Jake Peavy will get put to the real test in the AL
7. The Yanks did add a much needed versatile player in Hairston
I agree with Mr. Abraham…
We are in first place its sad how soon we forget the tallented prospects the Yankees have, just for a rented mule.
Markakis just missed a HR off Smoltz by a few feet…. UGH
he only got a single out of it because he hammered it so hard
Hinske just had an at bat that looked like one of incredible rust. I wonder why Mr. “Let’s play a guy who consistently drops routine fly balls nad elt someone who has hit a home run almost every game rot on the bench.”
damn konerko!
YES!!!!
Aubrey Huff 2-run HR
Smoltz is losing!
I hate you, Paul Konerko.
Konerko, You A-Hole.
Thank you God. O’s take the lead.
Oh sorry, wrong game.
The Blogger Formerly Known as Dan
July 31st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
And it’s time for the jump on Cashman because our 5th starter isn’t Cy Young.
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You missed the memo. This is the New York Yankees. Every member of the rotation should have 20 win seasons and pitch a minimum of 2 perfect games per season. Every position player should be hitting .300 miniumum and .1000 with RISP
Foiled by a Teixeirian play.
Markakis misses a HR by 3 feet
Aubrey Huff doesn’t miss… a deep shot to dead center
Smoltz no likey
Matt is that really you? I agree
““If Cashman had made a trade for a pitcher today you’d still be watching Mitre tonight….. so relax.”
“But tonight would have been the LAST night.”
It still might if Mitre looks bad. Just because something didn’t happen today (tradewise), doesn’t mean Cashman doesn’t have plan B and C.
O’s 5-4 Smoltz gives up a bomb
“BD 2.0
Can we take those posts to mean your fine letting Sergio Mitre destroy this bullpen right before our eyes???”
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what posts?
4. Sox improved, but how much??
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None 100% sure I agree with this. They flipped meaningless players (La Roche and Kotchman). They added V-Mart’s bat, but pitching was a problem for them and they gave up Masterson
oh man
Ellsbury just leaped over the wall and robbed a HR
Give the prospects a chance guys, we need to think about the future.
Yup, Ca$h had to get a pitcher today no matter what the deal was cause you know there hasn’t been a waiver deal done in 100 years. Unbefreakinlievable.
“O’s 5-4 Smoltz gives up a bomb”
Let me put my ESPN analyst cap on….
“Smoltz is throwing well. Everything will be fine. Oh, Joba belongs in the pen.”
That’s their usual script, right?
wow,
Smoltz almost gave up another BOMB but Ellsbury made a great play to save him
Hate Ellsbury……..but not as much as Big Sloppy, Yuke & the troll………….
I think Jason B*y will win it.
Mitre’s got nothing tonight.
Smoltz might just be a bullpen pitcher.
He really looked great in the first 2 innings.
the last 3? he is getting KILLED
Leadoff walk to a .228 hitter? Really, Mitre?
i obviously am not a supporter of cashman, but i don’t mind that he only did a minor tweak in hairston.
the red sox were not as good a team going into the trading deadline and victor martinez isn’t going to upset any balance between the teams.
Burnett- 7 IP
Sabathia- 5.2 IP
Chamberlain- 8 IP
Pettitte- 6.1 IP
So where in that is a 5 inning start “killing the pen” if that’s what Mitre gives?
“I know some Yanks fans are disappointed but -
1. Halladay didn’t go anywhere
2. Adrian Gonzalez didn’t go to Boston
3. Angels didn’t improve their bullpen
4. Sox improved, but how much??
5. Yanks kept all their prospects”
+ 1000
Serious question: Does anybody think Igawa will ever pitch for the yankees again?????????
Mitre = CC
“I’m sure Cashman got a lot of sleep today… Probably got caught up on his laundry, too…
So it’s not like the day was a complete loss.”
A lot of people don’t agree with your take. Plus it’s over.
Any chance you’ll allow people to enjoy the game without continual whining? No you don’t have to, but it would be the grown up thing to do.
For the record, I wasn’t upset that Cashman didn’t do more than he did because I’m sure he knows a lot more about what went on than we do. Last I looked his trades and signings got us to first place, not the brilliance of posters on the lohud blog.
Sorry that I am coming down on you so hard. I’m probably speaking to everyone who continues to cry about this.
Adjust. It just might be okay. (I of course know it will be.)
Craigster
July 31st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
The ones where you were pointing out how great this deadline day really was.
It was a disaster.
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Where are you currently located? Cause I don’t want to be standing near you since your sky is falling
Don’t get me wrong I hate the Red Sox, but i feel terrible for John Smoltz..He’s one of the greatest pitchers of the decade and he’s just getting rocked in Boston…He’s better than that and never should of left Atlanta…He has a ring and he should of went out like a classy dude. His legacy is getting tarnished right now.
Carrasco > ( Mitre = CC )
Trevor, of course……that’s what’s confounding. It’s so disappointing not to get a pitcher, but on the other hand, what can you do if other teams are not willing to negotiate? Asking the Yankees for Hughes, Joba, Montero, Jackson for good to average pitchers and then refusing to budge (and in the case of Seattle, not even getting back to the Yankees as a courtesy – man, that really ticks me off) shows that other teams just didn’t want to do business with us.
oh
my
goodness
ok, enough is enough
Are you freaking kidding me.
There are no words for how terrible this is.
Umm……………..
What an effing joke. When the White Sox GIVE you outs, you have to take them.
Mitre obviously attended the Nick Swisher School of Fielding…
Craigster are you sure you are a Yankee fan? It does not seem like you are rooting for them, more like you are rooting against the Yanks.
This is quite scary. Bases loaded and no outs
W?
T?
F?
White Sox take lead 5-3?
Gordon Beckham is good
Lucky to get out of this inning tied.
Oh boy
Can Hairston pitch???????????
this is gonna end bad…either a hit or a walk..mitre is doomed
Craigster –
I’m sorry Santa Claus didn’t bring you everything you wanted. Instead of pouting, why don’t you write the Yankees and demand a refund.
Be persistent, tell them if you don’t get your way, you’ll become a Pittsburgh Pirate fan.
A base hit? What a joke.
That was a terrible bunt, and Mitre made a horrible play on it.
I hope Joe doesn’t leave this guy in too long when he gives up runs,so the Yankees can have a chance to win.Loading the bases is asking for trouble.
wow, looks like trisha is going to have to start offering bags of goodies again to stop the negative nellies. Jeez people, the guy their pitching tonight is awful too. There will be many runs scored tonight.
i dunno how we have so much faith in this kid…he was like waiting to implode…we bailed him otu every time
nightmare.. he was going to look at 3rd instead of taking the free out at first..
nightmare
Should have traded for Pavano!!!! (Just kidding)
He held up? WOW
These umpires are TERRIBLE
I wonder if right now Cash is saying damn I should of made that trade for a starter…This is a joke….
At least it’s early, and we have our A-offense in today. Maybe we will win 15-14.
Hey Craigster,
the oakland freakin a’s just split a series with the mighty mighty bostons.
Cashman could probably get Carl Pavano on waivers
wow…..I thought Mitre was bad…BUT…not this bad.
This may be a game where you have to take Mitre out early. He really has nothing tonight. He simply cannot throw strikes and when he does, the Sox hitters are all over them.
Here’s the problem: if Aceves is still unavailable, there’s no long reliever.
But the Yankees might be giving this game away if they think they can ease Mitre through 4-5 innings.
Get this stiff out before it is 7-3.
What a damn joke he is.
Lol Wow…Mitre is horrific.
Mitre’s 15 minutes is almost up……
HIT YOUR CUTSSSSSSSS
Craigster please don’t cuss on the blog. So why don’t you root for your team instead of complaining.
there goes the double play
come on Melky
Dumb throw Melky. Ass.
Bad play by Melky……..really dumb……
jeter let it go through, that was the captains bad
Too bad Melky doesn’t have any brains… Like he actually expected to get the runner at 3rd??
Mitre is already at 45 pitches
and done
fu ck nothing else to say
I’m done with this game tonight.
And just like that , down 4-3
Seriously, Kei Igawa. I expect him up eventually.
Another dumb defensive play. Where is the cutoff on that ball? You CANNOT let the additional run move up to 2nd base with a GROUND BALL PITCHER on the mound, with which you can still get out of this with a lead if you get a double play.
Yankees continue to beat themselves, and hey, WHAT A FREAKING SHOCK, the dumb defensive play costs them ANOTHER RUN.
I’m turning the game off.
As far I’m concerned, Chicago already won.
Once again Melky throws the ball to the wrong base.
mitre is some kinda bad today..
That’s nice……..Sorry, Mitre can not do the job as the 5th starter.
Aceves is available tonight.
Boy, I am SOOOO happy the Yankees stayed put on pitching. Mitre is dominating. Absolutely DOMINATING.
Obviously Mitre isn’t going to have a next start. Who will?
Meanwhile,
Youk smashes a 2run HR to give Boston the lead
and Boston just took 6 to 5 lead…thats baseball
Mitre is terrible…Melancon and Robertson better get ready to work tonight. Igawa anyone???
What is Girardi doing? Get this stiff out
man id rather have a prospect waste this game rather then mitre the journeyman..i mean its all a effin waste of space
We lose the lead, Sox take the lead Darn!
it’s batting practice in Baltimore tonight between Smoltz and Guthrie
Take Mitre out!! He has NOTHING. Even Pettitte on his worst nights gives you some hope. Does anyone think Mitre has enough bullets to “battle” through 4 innings without giving up 10 runs?
Brian Cashman better be right in his confidence of snagging a fifth starter. Because let us be honest here, Mitre is not going to cut it, at all.
This game sure is moving along quickly!
Wow the sky is not falling but Mitre is the 5th starter…Joba inning limit is up soon…we have a 37 year old 4th starter….the trade deadline pasted…does not look good
Shades of Pavano and the same uniform number to boot.
So.. Sergio Mitre is really working out well isn’t he?
Ya think MAYBE it would have been a good idea to trade for a 5th starter?
Can you people stop cursing?? You are acting like spoiled 10 year olds.
Grow up!
So glad we didn’t get a starter.. After all, we’re in first and it’s August. What could go wrong?
At least we have 2012 and beyond to look foward to.
The Yankees are playing like they are comfortably in first place.
News Flash:
THIS LEAD COULD BE GONE AFTER THIS WEEKEND IF YOU KEEP GIVING AWAY GAMES.
They aren’t playing with any kind of focus or smart baseball, and once again it comes back to burn them. How many dumb plays are going to be made out there before somebody gets held accountable?
If I’m Girardi, you have to sit Melky AND Swisher tomorrow for Hinske and Hairston. Just no excuse to let these guys keep making bone headed plays out there.
I hate to say it but Igawa is going to get a chance sooner or later. They have no other options.
Cashman looks real bad right now Mitre is getting lit up on the last day of the trade deadline. We didn’t need a pitcher we needed another utility player.
wow, you guys are ridiculous…The pitcher they have sucks too. Why does everyone on this board treat every game like its the 7th game of the world series? We cant win every night and even if we could i still think some of you would complain.
Aceves is available, but no way is he going to pitch more than 1 inning tonight, maybe two…….. Looks like AJ will have no pen to work with tomorrow, but then he’s used to that.
dont worry
Mitre gets Boston next time out
Adios regular posters.
The nut jobs, trolls and complainers have taken over as usual – driving away people who want to talk baseball.
How many auditions was Sergio Miltre signed up for ????
Al Leiter is a good commentator, he all but said that Mitre is not a MLB caliber pitcher. So, the Yanks are going to have to come up with a fifth starter somewhere.
The fielding mistakes are getting to be a big problem, it’s as if the Yankees are back in Spring Training.
Melky had no choice but to throw the ball to third because for some unknown reason, Cano went to first base.
this number is a jinx…pavano and mitre..thats all i ever wanna c of 45
It will be an early night for both pens. Battle of the pens tonight.
I can’t deal with the rampant trolls
I will be back when there is a lead again-
DFA this stiff.
This is why we could not make a trade like the sox did. We have no depth in the system other than our top 4 or 5 guys.
It is a joke that he is an option to start for the NYY.
Awful, awful, awful. There’s no way the Yankees let Mitre start against Boston, right?
Already won? Lol it’s only the 2nd inning..relax.
this is gonna be a battle of the pens anyways…hopefully we can score more..
The Yankees still have a great chance to win the game, so they can’t leave Mitre out there even if he gets out of this inning. They’ll have to piece it together with Robertson, Melancon and maybe Bruney……..Sucks for AJ tomorrow though because Phil will likely not be available and Aceves probably can’t go back to back yet.
Mitre is awful. If the Yanks think they can go into the playoffs with this joke of back of the lineup, they’re kidding themselves. Considering the fact that Joba will soon be reaching his limit and going to the pen, we’ll be in serious trouble against quality teams.
WOW, Ortiz hit a bomb to center that looked like a HR
it was off the wall. Jones turns around and fires it to 2nd and gets Papi out at 2nd.
just missed another HR though
batting practice continues in Baltimore
I guess according to the assorted fools who have now taken over the blog Cashman should have given up all our prospects for a pitcher just to get another pitcher here.
Montero is 3-4 with 2 doubles, 1 RBI and 1 run scored.
Bleich: 6 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 5 stikeouts.
Maybe Hairston Jr. can pitch? Hughes will be in the rotation sooner than later. THey’re going to have to stretch him out.
M-
we couldnt make a trade because other teams impose a “yankee” tax and will only take our top 5 or 6 players.
” Last I looked his trades and signings got us to first place, not the brilliance of posters on the lohud blog.”
trisha-
give cb and sj44 $400 million to spend and i’ll bet they’d have done about the same things as cashman.
i’m not sure where the cashman brillance is… maybe when he sun shines on his slightly balding head
Any one who asked if we’re going to see Kei Igawa again, there’s your answer. I honestly can’t see any way that they justify throwing Mitre out there again.
His first two starts were pretty bad, but he managed to wiggle out of trouble. The problem? They were against weak hitting teams in Baltimore and Oakland. You see what happens when he runs in to a competent offense. He’s been flat out terrible tonight.
thats the thing abt sinker ball pitchers…if the ball is even a little up…their done, and when players recognize that the sinker is dippin out of the zone they dont swing and wait for the lollipops that mitre is dishin today, before u know it, someone is gonna hit a 3 run jack
You can’t blame Melky for that. There was no one on second. Cano made the mistake.
Melky almost always seems to throw to the wrong base in that kind of spot, this is nothing new. Just like Swisher consistently drops routine fly balls and Ransom cannot field routine ground balls at 3B.
Some things are just not going to change. Putting these same guys out there and expecting anything different is just foolish, yet that’s just what Girardi seems to be doing.
crappy pitchers cannot walk batters and not get free outs.
mitre better figure it out quick else he will be in SWB.. He gets 1 more start.. The yanks better have a plan B……
Wow 54 pitches for just 2 innings,and gives up 3 runs,just wow.
Sigh,I see the trade deadline bridge jumpers are out in full force. Seriously, why dont u guys just jump. seriously. JUMP. Do the rest of us rational fans a favor. btw, erica, who won “guess the line-up?”
Cashman has GOT to be hurting right now.
Joekuh,
it has been gloomy in here for the past 5 hours.
I hate to say ‘spoiled’ but…
I still have faith the Yanks are going to win. If I didn’t, why would I even watch?
I dont get some people…
I never realized the power that Sergio Mitre has.
He can singlehandedly take the team leading their division with the best record in the American League and make them lose out on the playoffs on the sole basis of one inning in one game. Amazing.
The certified sub-geniuses are amazing.
I guess they’ve given up on the Red Sox sites, now that the Almighty has been shown to be a fraud.
damon alwasy hustles
No …we do not think he should have given all our propects for a pitcher but us fools know enough about baseball to know that Mitre should not be starting for the NYY. he sucked in his first two starts so i am not sure what they were hoping for.
Adios regular posters.
The nut jobs, trolls and complainers have taken over as usual – driving away people who want to talk baseball.
Ditto. A bunch of Ignoramuses.
I hate Cashman for not getting a starter. mitre is dominating. cant wait for him to pitch in the playoffs.
3 bats for damon broken already today…
how does he let that continue??
It is not funny
Joekuh – I’ll meet your mama under the O’Neill Banner!
July 31st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
btw, erica, who won “guess the line-up?”
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Nobody won tonight. Once again, Joe Girardi eluded everyone
The Yankee bullpen is going to go from a strength to a weakness if Aceves is really hurt and Melancon can’t continue Hughes awesomeness when he goes back into the rotation.
“this number is a jinx…pavano and mitre..thats all i ever wanna c of 45″
So how do we go about getting the Yankees to retire this number?
See, this is where you use Aceves if he’s healthy. He easily could pitch us from the 3rd to the 7th and hold the ChiSox at bay. The way things are going tonight the winner is going to need around 10 runs. I’m sorry, but Mitre is just awful. And because we didn’t get a starter we’re going to have to, in all likelihood, have to move Hughes back into the rotation.
All of this talk of October means little if we don’t actually get there. And you need five reliable starters to get it done. Anyone know where our fifth starter is?
“Melky had no choice but to throw the ball to third because for some unknown reason, Cano went to first base.”
Slight correction, he threw it to Jeter but he went to cover 2nd when he realized the 2nd runner was tagging up and Cano was nowhere in sight. Nice to see someone actually use logic and reason in a blog littered with total imbeciles looking to blame and insult Melky at any given moment, though.
Yeah, sure – Cash is hurting because he desperately wanted to give up AJax for 2 month rental; he’s hurting because the Royals probably demanded Joba or Hughes for Bannister……..I still have yet to receive an answer to my ? of whether Cash should have bought a gun and held it to the GM’s heads…….
That said, this rotation and pen is in serious trouble
Anyone have any theories on why Cano sprinted to 1st base on the single to Melky? That was really bizarre.
HAVE to score these runs. Have to. It’s all on Posada now.
It stinks that Mitre barely got through 2 innings as that’s way too many for the bullpen to piece together. I know what I said above, but man they might have to sacrifice this game in order to save the pen somewhat. We saw what happened when Wang only went 2 innings – it destroyed the pen for weeks. If the game is lost, the game is lost
Yeah I’m sure cashing has GOT to be hurting because Mitre isn’t having a stellar outing and so he is all of a sudden wondering if he should have made a trade.
I’m sure that the complaining contingency HERE is hurting. But last I looked Cashman didn’t necessarily take his cues from the, um, OUTSTANDING lohud GMs.
If Cashman had the staying power some of you did, he would likely hide behind a computer screen, as most of you do, because he wouldn’t be able to deal with the real world, the way many of you seem to be unable to do.
Amazing AB by Posada.
“Cashman has GOT to be hurting right now.”
Right…he’s definitely hurting that his team is in first place and losing by a run in the top of the third…
Lol I love the comedy on here.
Why, in that situation, would you swing at the first pitch? That makes absolutely NO sense. That’s a bad job on JoPo’s part.
Edwin Jackson threw 115 pitches through 4IP tonight against a depleted Indians lineup.
bad games happen…
There’s a reason Posada never made the jump from good to great hitter with the Yankees.
He’s not smart out there.
The guy fell behind 3-1 on the last hitter and has consistently shown that he is falling behind and missing tonight. So what does Posada do? He hacks at the first pitch, a pitcher’s pitch, which he does not get good wood on, with TWO RISP.
You have to use your head there, and especially knowing this guy is on a PITCH COUNT tonight.
What annoys me is how so many people talk about how the Yankees work counts and this and that. That’s garbage. More guys swing at the first pitch on this team than maybe any team in baseball. Posada, can you take a few pitches? For god’s sake.
Mitre is not a major league pitcher, period.
That’s not a slight on him, not many are. He should go back to AAA and continue his career there, he’s still getting back for playing the game he loves.
But, the Yankees are going to have to find a major league caliber fifth starter somewhere, and I don’t think Igawa is the answer either. I like the suggestion to go back to Aceves, he has good stuff, he is a major league caliber pitcher, and he is already on the roster.
Michell B….The difference is, he’s our # 5 starter, for Chicago, he’s a reliever throwing as an emergency start…..Big Diffenence
Abdababdaserser
July 31st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Bru… where exactly are these pitchers that Cashman will get coming from? Other clubs will have first dibs and there are a number of them that can use pitching meaning it will be scraping the bottom of the barrel for the Yankees.
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once teams are out of it they will throw players out on waivers knowing they
1-will be claimed & they are off the hook financially
2-they can pull them back & work out a trade but might be reluctant because they can’t put them on waivers again & are stuck with them.
a lot of teams are not going to wan’t to claim players because they will get stuck with them.
remember we only need a pitcher or two,maybe none.
look at last years rotation.
“Edwin Jackson threw 115 pitches through 4IP tonight against a depleted Indians lineup.
bad games happen…”
Edwin Jackson is pretty good.
Sergio Mitre is not.
Bad Players happen too…
That’s what you call a give away AB. Posada had no interest being at the plate long.
Why is Mitre still in the game?
Nobody’s were traded for Washburn…..granted, we would’ve had to pay a little more, but I think we could’ve gotten something done. The Yanks aren’t putting Hughes back into the rotation. Logic says we need 1 more starter…..As I write, Quentin blasts one. I think my point was made.
Melky air mailed one trying to throw to third base. He did not give Jeter a throw he could cut off, and if you watch the replay you can see Jeter is trying to cut it off but the ball was way off line.
Melky tries to throw out guys taking extra bases and doesn’t think out there and try to hold the other guys at first base. He does this consistently, so stop making excuses for him.
This is on Girardi now…you cant blame Mitre b/c he sucks.
I guess we can just throw away games.
$200 million and Sergio Mitre is starting games. Just awful. Glad we have a good backup plan.
well atleast we ll still be in the lead at the end of the day in the east
Absolutely no way he makes another start. None.
Offense needs to come up big here.
Any surprise that Matt is dominating this thread? Any time the Yanks are losing this joker comes out of the woodwork and does nothing but bitch bitch bitch
carlos put a good swing on that. sergio, funny enough, is having the same problem wang had early in the season, missing up. and soon as i say that he makes a good pitch to kotsay to get him to ground out, lol.
Any surprise that Matt is dominating this thread? Any time the Yanks are losing this joker comes out of the woodwork and does nothing but complain
“Nobody’s were traded for Washburn…..granted, we would’ve had to pay a little more, but I think we could’ve gotten something done.”
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you “think” ?
the Yankees countered an offer of AJax for Washburn.
Seattle never responded.
Seattle traded him to Detroit.
How can the Yankees not at least have a long reliever available for Mitre’s starts?
DFA’ing Brett Tomko doesn’t look so good now…
Mitre is the 5th starter. He wouldn’t pitch in the playoffs.
You-can….Putitontheborrrrrrrrrrrred….Heeeeeyes!!
I hate Sergio Mitre
PAT M -
the sox dont have a 5ht starter, they traded him today. this is carrassco’s audition. Ozzie said if he does well he can have the spot. There is NO difference between him and mitre. They both suck!
“he’s still getting back(Paid) for playing the game he loves”
What was I thinking?
that was strike 3 last night.
Abdababdaserser
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there is no bottom of the barrell
halladay can be put on waivers.
manny was.
once teams are out of it they might put a lot of pitchers on waivers hoping to shed payroll.
i don’t know if any compensation is involved like draft picks.
Craigster
I have a feeling you’ll be hearing from Pete
Betsy, I don’t get it, why exactly did Cashman have to go out and get a front line pitcher to replace Mitre? Sidney Ponson is an upgrade and the Yankees could have had him for a bag of baseballs. Why not trade Marte back to Pittsburgh for Ohlendorf.
If Jeter had cut the ball off he still wasn’t at second and the runner would have been safe anyway. You cannot throw the ball to 2nd if there is no one there.
did anyone see the article on Faniq.com using the fake Buster Olney twitter quote of “eck on roids”
It was their headline, Eck on ROids on the front page.
Then they later retracted.
Seems like sending Albaladejo down was a great idea seeing who was pitching tonight.
Its time to rush a pitching prospect from somewhere in the minors. Im sure any prospect can do better than Mitre.
Patrick, Matt ONLY comes out when we’re down. ONLY. I’ve NEVER seen him here when we’re winning.
pat m-
yankee starting pitching is obviously very thin if someone gets hurt, but the overall team is very good . the offense should get better as arod comes around .
right now i’d say the yankees are better than the red sox. losing masterson isn’t going to help them. he gave them some versatility . ortiz is going to be a real problem as time goes on.
knowing the red sox they are probably trying to figure out how to move him already. the red sox have serious shortstop problems. they are not a powerhouse by any means.
Joe lets wait until they score 3 or 4 more runs before you do anything. What a joke this is.
The Sox will be back in first before Monday.
This guy needs to be DFA tonight.
I do not want to hear any quotes from Girardi about his stuff being good etc… just get rid of this guy.
“Betsy, I don’t get it, why exactly did Cashman have to go out and get a front line pitcher to replace Mitre? Sidney Ponson is an upgrade and the Yankees could have had him for a bag of baseballs.”
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wow,
the geniuses have come out tonight.
Ponson?
he’s getting hammered tonight.
we have some real scholars in here.
just need 1 more out
I’m outta here…
I’ll let the whine-fest continue.
“Any surprise that Matt is dominating this thread? Any time the Yanks are losing this joker comes out of the woodwork and does nothing but complain.”
Matt actually hasn’t said anything that wasn’t accurate tonight. He said Posada did a poor job in his AB. He did. He said Mitre was pitching poorly. He is.
Just because you aren’t patting the team on the back every five seconds, and you actually point out when they do something wrong, it doesn’t make you a troll. He isn’t saying the game’s over, he isn’t saying they aren’t going to the playoffs, he hasn’t been extreme at all. There’s been nothing troll-like about his comments.
we dont have anybody else.
i wouldnt be opposed to using Kei igawa one more time.
maybe he’s learned something.
Don’t retire number 45…………..ban it!
Bleich finished for the night: 7 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 5 strikeouts.
Sidney Ponson is an upgrade and the Yankees could have had him for a bag of baseballs.
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carl pavano is better than this (but not Kei Igawa)
difference between sidney ponson, shawn chacon, darrell rasner etc… and Mitre… Above named pitchers atleast pitch 5-6 innings and give you a chance.. Mitre gives up leads, walks .200 hitters and once in a while pitches past 5 innings..
we got none of these ground balls when we had a lead or the bases were loaded.
BD 2.0
Really what is wrong with people? They can’t behave like grown adults?
Mitre’s Yankee history has come to a halt. This is no time for experimenting or auditioning like in spring training. Need a No. 5 starter that can get hitters out.
The search is on.
Well, at least Mitre is consistent. He’s reached a full count on nearly every batter.
The Yankees have a 5th starter sitting in the bullpen, his name is Alfredo Aceves. He’s been a starter his whole career and would be fine in the rotation and better than anyone they can pick up on waivers.
Give Melancon his nebulous bullpen role and Aceves will shore up the rotation for the rest of the season, he threw 2 days ago and said he was fine. He doesn’t have to maintain his under 3 ERA to do well, anything under 4.50 will win lots of games with this batting order.
Craigster
They need to worry about this game first.
AJ will be fine tomorrow and they can call someone up if need be.
Lets see Robertson and Melancon for 4 innings and maybe the offense can score off a guy from the bullpen.
We didn’t come to this blog to read some guy crying day in and day out criticizing ever pitch/atbat. We are watching the game. We know whats going on.
I love the “cashman is an idiot” threads. You were the same people who were calling him a genius for getting CC and swooping up Teixiera in the 11th hour. Seriously people, get a grip.
Michael Kay -
Why oh why must you tell us the number of pitches Mitre is throwing over and over. We get he’s struggling, okay? Give it a rest!
I agree with the poster above, Joe is going to let him take one for the team, then send him back down this week. No need to waste the pen.
Yankees can still win this game, the Sox pitcher isn’t exactly lighting it up either.
Funny Anothony5, because I was here just tonight posting in the first inning.
Once again, you are stopped dead in your tracks. Get over it, and stop thinking you are better than everyone else.
The yankees should use Aceves as the 5th starter. Put Mitre in the bullpen as the long man. And give Melancon a shot at pitching the 7th. Use Melancon more as a 1 inning reliever instead of a long man.
Wow. Robbie really does have a sweet swing.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-949084
Oops? I wonder who the one making “mindless” criticisms is now?
Cano half way buddy
The problem isn’t just that Mitre is our 5th starter.
John Smoltz is the Red Sox’s #5 starter and he isn’t looking too good either.
The difference is the Red Sox have other options, because two of their guys are on the DL (Wakefield, Dice-K) but expected back sometime this season.
Mitre is our 5th starter not temporarily, but permanently…unless Cashman makes a deal. There’s no one else to go to or look forward to from within. I think all of us would welcome Ian Kennedy at this point, despite his struggles, but there’s no one like him available in the minors.
And that is why Cashman found it so hard to make a trade for a starting pitcher. Teams want major league ready starters in return, and the Yankees just don’t have that right now (besides Hughes and Joba, who are untouchable). Kennedy, Horne, Marquez…all that depth we had a year ago is gone.
John Sterling: “You get the feeling that maybe this isn’t the Yankees’ night. They’re getting line drive after line drive and have nothing to show for it”.
Anyone want to accuse Sterling of being a troll?
Hinske baby
Atta boy Hinske!!!
Tie game!!
Hinske is just amazing.
HINSKE rocks!!!
Babe Hinske
Hinske does not f*** around.
Plain and simple.
5 HRs in 20 ABs for mall cop..I mean
Oh hey look Joe Girardi, Hinske just hit ANOTHER HOME RUN!
I guess that means we should throw him back on the bench for another week after today?
For those wondering, Sterling did, in fact, use “Hinske with your best shot”.
Thank you Eric Hinske. Game tied up!
Joe has to play Hinske more!
Hinske digs the long ball
Hinske hits one out of Comiskey
Hinske! Lol oh no the game is over!
more evidence Swisher needs to ride the pine…
Oh look- they tied it up!!!!
Thank goodness they kept playing after the 2nd inning
Hinske needs to play more. but Girardi loves Swisher.
homrinski!!!!!!!
S.A – Ponson has a two inning head start, I have no doubt that if Mitre pitches into the 5th he’ll give up at least 7. Regardless, my point was that the Yankees have a massive scouting force – that’s how they uncovered a jewel like Aceves. You’d think they could find another Chacon or Small that can keep them in a game down the stretch. I don’t understand why everyone was so focused on Halladay/Bannister/Washburn that would have cost too much.
HINSKE WITH YOUR BEST SHOT!
And as I write this, Hinske hits his 5th home run for the Yanks to tie the game up.
Joe, might try playing this guy a little more don’t ya think?
Now, let’s see if Mitre can keep it here for a few more innings.
John Sterling: “You get the feeling that maybe this isn’t the Yankees’ night. They’re getting line drive after line drive and have nothing to show for it”.
Anyone want to accuse Sterling of being a troll?
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Can I accuse him of being an idiot?
Randy I, I still say the Yanks win the AL East….Boston is not as good as their record would indicate…However the Yanks need to keep hitting a ton, and everyone ( pitchers ) need their health…..
Erica – LOL -
Girardi hates Hinske for some reason. Hinske has done nothing but positive things every time he’s been in the lineup.
If LoHud “Guess the Line Up” was any indication, the people want Hinske playing daily
Donnie- Are you kidding? John Sterling is a moron. I can’t stand listening to him. Any time the other team gets a runner on we hear that is the tieing run, and the go ahead run is at bat. He does this in the first frikking inning!
jeesus hinske is beast.
“Hinske needs to play more. but Girardi loves Swisher.”
alot of us love Swishy, Cody and Bam Bam not that much.
LOL Matt, stop being a tough guy calling people out like I’m going to be scared or something. You’re a bridge jumper. Do me a favor and just jump.
ok, maybe you guys can settle this…we were having this debate at work today:
who’s better…eric hinske or moses?
HINSKE WITH YOUR BEST SHOT!!!! HE SAID IT!!!
I never understood when people say 162-0 garbage. I just want our team to give us the best opportunity to win each night.
Weve lost 40 games this year?
Of those 40, we have thrown away 15 games. No Joke.
ALRIGHT HINSKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe this is a truly special team, but not even elite teams can throw away games with mental errors, physical errors, and Mitres
LOL Leiter says you gotta find a way to get Hinske in there more!!!!!!!!!! So obvious, make Swisher sit on his arse…
Wow, Okajima just saved the lead by snagging a game-tying line drine that was headed right up the middle.
The O’s will have to do it against Papelbon tonight.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
Hinske should start more, but not too much more.
Todd- Did ya miss Swishas game tieing homerun yesterday?
God I certainly didn’t miss this nonsense this week.
The pickings are slim at AAA ….
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....38;cid=531
HE SAID IT! Pete, I hope you’re listening. I want my media guide homie!
“Anyone want to accuse Sterling of being a troll?”
“Can I accuse him of being an idiot?”
i LOL’d loudly.
Hinske’s the man. Also, I really hope A-Jax turns into the next Adam Jones, because it would have been really nice to have Washburn in this rotation.
“Randy I, I still say the Yanks win the AL East….Boston is not as good as their record would indicate”
Pat M.,
You’re absolutely correct. It’s been pointed out that if we’d only SPLIT the series with Boston, we’d have gained 8 games on them. Their record against teams not the Yankees is what they call “fair to middling”. They’re rotation is actually in worse shape than ours.
mitre has to be on a short leash now….
Hinske should start every time Mitre does.
Robertson for two?
“LOL Matt, stop being a tough guy calling people out like I’m going to be scared or something. You’re a bridge jumper. Do me a favor and just jump.”
If Matt’s a tough guy than the Snuggles bear must be hardcore.
Anybody know when Montero might come up??? Is he at AA now???
You can get Hinske some more at bats by sitting Matsui once in a while and have him DH. He can also play third on A-Rod
s day off instead of using Ransom.
You think I’m the tough guy calling people out?
Did you see the post of your own that I responded to?
But I guess some people are so self-obsessed that they can do no wrong. Do you actually believe these things you are saying?
Montero finishes the night 3-5 w/2 doubles, 1 RBI, 1 RS, 1 strikeout. Hitting .313 in AA.
pat m-
i know i was stating the obvious , but i just wanted to have a baseball back and forth instead of the silliness we’re ignoring.
As I recall Swisher hit a clutch home run last night
I like Hinske too but how quickly we 4get
Let’s all thank Manger for that amazing HR call by John Sterling.
Thank You Manger, thank you.
man they could use Ian Kennedy.. Wow…….
i’m sensing a cage-match beneath the O’neil banner.
Montero is 3-4 with 2 doubles 1 rbi and 1 run scored
Aura July 31st, 2009 at 9:29 pm
S.A – Ponson has a two inning head start, I have no doubt that if Mitre pitches into the 5th he’ll give up at least 7. Regardless, my point was that the Yankees have a massive scouting force – that’s how they uncovered a jewel like Aceves. You’d think they could find another Chacon or Small that can keep them in a game down the stretch. I don’t understand why everyone was so focused on Halladay/Bannister/Washburn that would have cost too much.
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Doesn’t matter the 2 inning head start, he is still blowing chunks(just like Mitre is).
Getting Ponson would be replacing crap(Mitre) with different crap.
Manger – It’s a crime if Sterling didn’t credit you for that call…
they should demote montero – it’s just not fair for the AA pitchers…
Cash will wait until Boston moves in front of us in the standings and then find a way to claim a starting pitcher off waivers so they can’t block us.
PAT M, Higashioka is hitting .267 with just two errors in 33 games. Seems to be coming along with the bat. He’s been hitting third and 4th in the Staten Island lineup.
i will say it first:
BRING UP KEI IGAWA!!!!!!
WE NEED MORE BEAVER!!!!
love that mitre is getting a talking to from andy.
Erica, are you lying about the game being tied? Because I was so sure that the Yankees season was over since Cashman didn’t bring in a starter from an outside team that I threw away all my Yankee stuff. I can barely see because my eyes are so puffy from crying and if my typng semms funnny ish becfse I tok a handfl of tranqklizers. Pls diont kid wth me. Did the Yankmes rely tie the game? Thgen I’d havea reasnd to liv!!!
Hinske-Pinske-Drive ‘em Inske!!!
Annnnd someone already posted about Montero. My bad!
Re: Mitre and Ponson
Poopi is poopi. its stink never changes.
Sergio is such hottie
MITRE=not the answer Cash!! We should have made some kind of move for a 5th starter today.
over the top – trish — over the top…LOL
Wow. Sick!
Nasty sequence by Dave Robertson
Higa is going to be a special catcher from what I hear GB7, he’ll either be traded in the future or make it to the bigs as a Jesus or Austin’s back up, either way special kid.
Thank you ROBERTSON
8 pitch inning for David, I’ll take it
The Bronson “Brandon” Arroyo waiver pickup seems more plausible now. I dont think anyone in the division would block that.
Whether that is a good move or not is another story.
And Robertson looks like Cy Young compared to Mitre
If only Mitre’s first start was like this instead of what it was. I know that sounds silly, but his first start was decent and encouraging. His second start was “not bad enough” – he kept them in the game, I guess. But he still threw enough DP balls that you had hope for the next time around. If he started out like this, we (I?) wouldn’t have been so disappointed here.
At least we have a tie game – a new game. And Robertson had a nice inning there.
You don’t expect the #5 starter to be lights out, but this was just a bad, bad start. He cannot be allowed to face the Red Sox next week.
You know, didn’t Kei Igawa once pitch well against the Red Sox? Too bad he’s not on the 40-man…
excellent job by Dave!!!
The Yankees need to move Aceves back to the rotation and hope that Albaladejo/Marte/Someone can fill the role in the bullpen.
The problem is that Girardi doesn’t trust some of these other guys enough to give them a chance to stay sharp and get key outs. Look at how he has let Melancon rot in the bullpen out there since they’ve called him up, based on one bad outing he had back in May that made him lose all confidence in the guy.
The Yankees have enough bullpen arms in the minors that can make contributions and fill the roles, and guys like Bruney on the ML roster who could get it together and become key cogs. However, they don’t have a guy who can start. Aceves is stretched out to 40-50 pitches now, so it might take him only 2 or 3 starts to stretch him out.
The problem is that his shoulder is barking now so it’s risky to stretch him out and push him into that fatigue zone unless his arm can hold up. If he can do so, it’s pretty much a no brainer that he needs to be the 5th starter, as the Yankees could piece together this pen with what they have in the majors and minors, but are short on starting pitching options.
Heck, you could even use Mitre as the long relief option and shift Melancon more back into the short relief role. Mitre might not be so bad out there if he can add a few mph to his sinker out of the pen, and the first time through the order hitters won’t notice that he has only 1 or 2 pitches.
“Do you actually believe these things you are saying?”
Actually, yes. Yes I do. I consider you to be a bridge jumper. Not an immediate 1. In the 1st you just tested the water. Since then, you’ve been bungeeing off the Whitestone.
Sad thing is, I remember agreeing with your comments during the Wang @ Boston start (if you’re the same Matt I’m thinking of). Even drunks have a moment of clarity. I guess that was yours. You’re annoying now, so I’m gonna just ignore your posts ad get back to the game.
Good inning DR. Leiter made a good point about needing to have a breaking ball called for strikes.
“Donnie- Are you kidding? John Sterling is a moron. I can’t stand listening to him. Any time the other team gets a runner on we hear that is the tieing run, and the go ahead run is at bat. He does this in the first frikking inning!”
Well, he’s not wrong. They would, in fact, be the go ahead or tying run. It’s a more creative way to give the status of the game, without giving the score every two seconds. When doing radio, you may have people tuning in, in the middle of an AB. They want to know the score. But you don’t want to say, “Yankees lead it 6-4″ over and over and over for the people that have been listening from the beginning. Saying, “Man on first, and the tying run at the bat”, lets the listener know, “Okay, so the Yanks are up 2″ without hammering the long time listeners with the score over and over. It’s not uncommon, and Sterling certainly isn’t the only broadcaster who does this.
I honestly have never understood the hatred for Sterling. He’s one of the only tolerable broadcasters on the radio. I have XM, and can’t stand to listen to most of the other biased, “homer” broadcasters.
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Trisha!!! LOL
great point from the D-Backs’ GM….i think Cashman feels the same
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“over the top – trish — over the top…LOL”
Thanks!
I hate to say this-
But when the Yanks were losing 5-3 I put on Jon & Kate Plus 8. Nothing bad has happened since I put on the Gosselins, and the Yankees have tied it. I wish I had more Jon & Kate on my DVR. LOL
GB, Higgy is the best defensive catcher in the system not named Cervelli for now …..I just wonder when the decision will be made to move Austin to the outfield……The Wang debacle is what has kept this team from running away from the competition…..Man, it should never had come to this…..
Alex is done. Look at this!! Only a single!!! This bum
Yes or No to Joba innnings limit the rest of the season? I say no!
I think he can handle it. Hughes on the other hand, could swap places, but why would you ruin a good thing now?
“…But when the Yanks were losing 5-3 I put Jon & Kate Plus 8″
I hate to say this-
But when the Yanks were losing 5-3 I put on Jon & Kate Plus 8. Nothing bad has happened since I put on the Gosselins, and the Yankees have tied it. I wish I had more Jon & Kate on my DVR. LOL
fairweather much?
Erica, I can’t wait for Monday night’s episode.
Very lucky for Posada there, or he would have had another quick, weak at bat.
I don’t get why some of these guys go up there against guys they haven’t faced and start hacking away. Scouting reports are completely different than seeing the guy’s actual pitching arsenal.
It’s really a no brainer. What’s your best chance to hit the guy? The first pitch, which might be a strike but which you don’t pick up as well or see the movement on as well because you haven’t seen this guy pitch, or a pitch later in the at bat, which MAYBE is not as ideal, but which you see well and put a good swing on?
Common sense.
Jim Pir-one-
ARod RISP = .256 with 21 hits and 23 Ks
Not the greatest numbers for a clean up hitter
trisha – OPPC lifetime member who says she doesn’t trust you but she does trust the Yankees!
July 31st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Erica, I can’t wait for Monday night’s episode.
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Me neither!!! I still think Jon is a giant (fill in the blank), but I love that show
Eric Hinske is the man…im over Swisher
Ugh- The Yankees seem to be doing better when i watch Jon & Kate.
I will keep watching the Gosselins for the sake of this game
GB7 at this rate Montero will have his own Yankeeography before he sets foot in the Bronx
So this guy is the real deal? Better than Wieters?
I’m calling a Reimold longball here.
Let’s hope Zach in Port Jeff
Erica, quite honestly I never followed it until it started getting all that separation press. Then I started to watch it. So now I’ve seen a lot of reruns from previous seasons but if they are any indication of reality, it seems that Kate is a b on wheels. I couldn’t blame him for not wanting to be around her. JMO
Damn Sox!
Erica -
Your sacrifice is duly noted! Great service to the team.
Zach, if only. Well looks like the fat juicer will continue to help them cheat their way to wins.
damn. no longball.
instead, long walk to the dugout.
oh well, yanks will win this game anyways.
I used to watch that show, Kate used to beat Jon up a lot. Maybe that’s why they split, he couldn’t take the beatings anymore.
Not for nothing, I love the people on this board, but if I hear Jon & Kate referenced one more time ….
Pat M….
July 31st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
GB, Higgy is the best defensive catcher in the system not named Cervelli for now …..I just wonder when the decision will be made to move Austin to the outfield……The Wang debacle is what has kept this team from running away from the competition…..Man, it should never had come to this…..
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Not sure when or if they’ll move Romine to a corner, but, they should at least try. He’s extremely athletic and anything but a slow, plodding catcher. He could do it. I’d think that maybe after the season is over, he’d do to arizona and work on it there. The Yanks have four young catchers all coming up at or near the same time. All can hit and it’ll all depend on defense. No question, though….NYY has a catching gold mine just waiting to be plundered.
Kay is a f’n idiot. he needs to sit in class with einstein and look at his paper…jesus.. he is an idiot.
“Not for nothing, I love the people on this board, but if I hear Jon & Kate referenced one more time ….”
What did Jon & Kate ever do to you?
OOPS!
some of you whiners and complainers should take a look at the Yankees stats from 1998, the year they won 114 games and ran through the postseason.
In their rotation was Hideki Irabu, the ‘fat toad’. He went 13-9 with a 4.06 ERA.
The bullpen? Mike Stanton and Jeff Nelson were always lights out? Not really, Stanton’s ERA was 5.47 and Nelson’s 3.79. Mendoza and Graeme Lloyd were big contributors but this years’ pen is at least as good, maybe better.
They did have Pettitte, Cone, and Wells heading the rotation and they combined for a record of 54-22.
This year’s bullpen is better than the 1998 teams’ and the top of the rotation isn’t much weaker since CC, AJ, and Joba are a combined 27-13. And remember, the 1998 Yankees were one of the great all time teams.
It really seems like many of you have either never played baseball or have watched very little in your lives. Instead of constantly finding fault with every move or play, just watch and observe, you might eventually know what your are talking about.
Yankees pitchers are starting to become predictable. You have to go inside on some of these hitters or they will keep sitting away and shoot it to the opposite field.
Maybe they should stop throwing him that outside pitch. He’s getting lots of hits with it.
Don’t think they will make Aceves a starter. He had shoulder fatigue and they have no long man to replace him.
Cashman will be watching the waiver wire. He should be able to pick up a 5th starter. Mitre is not the answer. The pen will be burnt out tonight.
Like I said.
When you keep refusing to go inside on hitters, they will lean out over the plate and get these pitches. Whether fastballs or curveballs, they will reach them if you keep letting them hang out over the plate like Pierzynski and Quentin do. You have to use both sides of the plate.
Erica, do you know when the new episodes are airing?
Robertson cant pitch multiple innings
Matt July 31st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Like I said.
When you keep refusing to go inside on hitters, they will lean out over the plate and get these pitches. Whether fastballs or curveballs, they will reach them if you keep letting them hang out over the plate like Pierzynski and Quentin do. You have to use both sides of the plate.
WHY ARE YOU TELLING US
I wonder if Jon or Kate catch pitch?
crush job right here sadly
This is disappointing. How does he have such a good inning and follow it up with this? And the game is soooooo slooooooow tonight.
Thanks Doreen!!!
Trisha- The parents might be cartoon characters, but I just melt when I see those kids. Aaden with his little glasses is my favorite!
Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing
July 31st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Erica, do you know when the new episodes are airing?
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Monday night at 9 on TLC. And there is no Yankee game that night to conflict!
YESSSSSS!
Be prepared for this same anxiety Sunday,CC will be lit up too,he’s going up against a real Ace!!
Where was that pitch?
1 more David
Carl,
Sorry I don’t post mindless garbage like “rah rah woo hoo” which is just obvious common sense. That’s my analysis of the situation, that they are not effectively using both sides of the plate which is leading to predictability.
If you can’t handle discussing baseball with more than cheerleading, then leave the deep conversations to the rest of us and stop wasting our time.
All things considered, Robertson didn’t do an awful job in this inning.
It’s up to our offense now to score some runs off the mediocre pitchers Chicago keeps throwing out there after Carrasco threw only 4 innings.
Robertson controlled the damage there.
Erica, thats perfect. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time watching that show though, especially now that it looks like its all been a sham.
Whew…good job limiting the damage by D-Rob.
ps. I apologize for referring to him as D-Rob.
Why do women like “Jon and Kate plus eight”?
I get why women like Project Runway, Dancing with the Stars, etc., but what’s the attraction to Jon & Kate?
that could of been a really ugly inning…robertson kept the damage low…with a little help
I just can’t take that they are going with Mitre as a # 5 starter. They need another pitcher. How do you sign C.C. A.J. and Tex. and now act like there outta money. I love the Yanks but come on.
Nice recovery David. Though that run still sucks, lotsa baseball left to be played
Matt
We don’t want your analysis. When will you understand that?
Aceves needs to pitch next.. 2 innings.
BTW anyone shocked cano had a weak fly to left with 2 on base after getting 2 hits with no one on base?
anyone suprised by that????
“You have to use both sides of the plate.”
And the top and bottom. Watch how many times Posada calls for a pitch to change the hitter’s eye level.
Robertson got lucky with the line drive to Cano, but the rest of it was all poise.
Yankee # wins – 62
Yankees # losses – 40
Best record in AL
# Matt complaints – 1057
Avg complaints per game – 10.36
However, the #s are a little misleading.
Let’s take a closer look.
Matt # of complaints during Yankee wins – 112
Matt # of complaints during Yankee losses – 935
On a scale of 1 to miserable, Matt is off the charts.
Of the strike zone. Sorry
S.A.–Serenity Now
July 31st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Nice recovery David. Though that run still sucks, lotsa baseball left to be played
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Yeah he got in a little trouble there but he did a nice job limiting the damage.
Sterling gives props to PA.
Way to go Pete!!!!!!!!!
Carl,
If you can’t handle that this is a place where people are allowed to voice their opinions, then you are in the wrong place. You don’t like it, then offer a counter point.
Sitting there and telling someone to shut up and stop posting only makes you look bad.
Carl,
Then don’t read his posts. He hasn’t said anything objectionable, and has just as much right as anyone else to post. He’s talking baseball, which is the point of this blog. If you don’t enjoy his analysis, scroll past it.
Trisha
Erica, I can’t wait for Monday night’s episode.
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You mean you want to see them installing a new kitchen? Theya re really ticking me off. All this money they have selling their children lives. It makes me sick! Gucci, private planes, huge house. ILL!!
the whitesux have all 1 inning pitchers
And props to whoever came up with Hinske with your best shot
Stu, Aceves is hurt. If his arm was really just sore, he wouldn’t have even mentioned it. The guy has been overused and I worry that he won’t be the same down the stretch because of it.
More playing time for Hinske you idiot Giradi
John Sterling just credited Pete for the “Hinske with your best shot” HR call! Suzyn then told him that it was the contest winner from this blog. Way to go!!
matt -
The thing that drives me nuts about your posts – your analysis – is you never ever point out anything positive the Yankees do. You have no balance. You point out everything, however, that they don’t do right.
Perhaps if you could toss a bone out every once in awhile to compliment a Yankee on a job well done, your more negative outlook wouldn’t be so aggravating.
I promise no one would mistake you for a rah-rah cheerleader.
yankees need to pull this one out. They don’t want to lose more ground to the Red Sox.
this game is far from over, Jenks not available, Thornton pitched more than one inning last night and the Yankees have Mo avaiable if they get the lead back.
“Why do women like “Jon and Kate plus eight”?”
I really never did but just became interested because of all of the publicity. But I think it’s the novelty value. How does a family deal with two sets of multiples that close in age, especially when the second set consists of six!
Meanwhile, only in America would that freak octagon get her own show. Now that I wouldn’t ever bother watching. I think I’d have nightmares. She is a total freak and the loser doctor who treated her with fertility drugs should lose his freakin license.
L to the 2nd
July 31st, 2009 at 9:49 pm
GB7 at this rate Montero will have his own Yankeeography before he sets foot in the Bronx
So this guy is the real deal? Better than Wieters?
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Defensively, no, Weiters has it all over Montero. Offensively, hard to say because Monero’s in AA and Weiter’s is in Baltimore. Let me put it this way. Montero’s numbers by the age of 19 is better than Piazza’s numbers at age 22 in AA in a hitter’s league and high altitude.
Folks:
Please abide by the guidelines and do not personally attack each other, use crude language, etc. Act like adults, please.
I apologize for “the Craigster” and his crude posts. Ever notice how guys who add the “ster” suffix on their names are inevitably dullards?
Thanks. Enjoy the rest of the game that the Yankees will win 8-7.
I think the Boston Red Sox moved Dice-K to the 60 day DL
dtv July 31st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Why do women like “Jon and Kate plus eight”?
I get why women like Project Runway, Dancing with the Stars, etc., but what’s the attraction to Jon & Kate?
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I watch(sometimes) Jon & Kate plus 8 to see what all the drama is about. Who doesn’t like a good train wreck. Plus, the kiddies are cute
well i personally think we should have gotten it done with halladay. i don’t care who we gave up or how much we paid. i think it would have been the right move.
also, the white sox play so dirty. i wouldn’t put anything past them.
hopefully the Yanks can rally while Matt ran off to get more Xanax
Until that strikeout of Nix on the borderline pitch, it didn’t seem like Posada was changing eye level much either in that inning with Robertson.
You’re right though, you need to use all four of the main quadrants- up, down, in, and out. However, if you only are changing pitches on one plane, say up and down, the hitters can sit on pitches away and stick the bat out and keep shooting them the other way.
Without changing eye level, in and out isn’t as meaningful as well, but if you keep throwing to one side of the plate, hitters can get to balls even if you are changing their eye level.
Johnny, good lord. That was at your ankles.
risp….
bottom line
“I promise no one would mistake you for a rah-rah cheerleader.”
Matt
Your opinion is worthless. You don’t come around when they are winning. When they are losing, you come and post like you’re teaching baseball 101. We are watching the game. We know whats going on. “See this is why you do this. See this is why you do that. blah blah blah. Bad at bat by Posada. You need to do this.”
the Sox have a tough August schedule, they aren’t likely to go on a long winning streak next month. Besides home and home with the Yankees, they play 2 away in Tampa, 3 away in Texas plus 4 game series at home with the Tigers and White Sox. Plus they play 2 series with the Jays so will see Doc twice. That’s a lot of good pitching being thrown against them in one month.
“Thanks. Enjoy the rest of the game that the Yankees will win 8-7.”
How many RISP left on tonight?
anyone have the yanks BA with RISP and where they stand compared to rest of baseball??????
thanks…
You will all slam Mitre, and he wasn’t great today, but look at what the offense has done against pitchers that are incredibly mediocre, at best.
2 for 8 with RISP, 7 LOB.
So while you will bash Mitre, maybe you should bash the offense as well for not picking him up in this game. The last inning was a prime example, with a leadoff walk and a bunch of early in the count “hack away” type at bats making weak outs.
It’s actually kind of funny.
Matt is condescending to the players as if he’s a little league dad telling his 7 year old kid to hit a HR or he’s walking home.
I think the Yankees know more about what they are doing than Matt does.
but I guess there might be one alternate universe out there.
“John Sterling just credited Pete for the “Hinske with your best shot” HR call! Suzyn then told him that it was the contest winner from this blog. Way to go!!”
That is so cool!!!!!
carl
July 31st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Matt
Your opinion is worthless. You don’t come around when they are winning.
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I wish all you guys would give it a rest! This is a blog with a comments section, Matt is posting a comment, if you don”t like it don’t read it!
I appreciate all the posters, because we are all fans of the same team.
Whos idea was Hinske with your best shot?
ugh tex
btw, speaking of mo, i made a pilgrimage to his house when i was in panama city. it was awesome. if anyone here is ever visting panama, i highly recommend this little excursion. he built his mansion in the same spot as his childhood home, which is in a fishing village about 40 minutes outside the city. there are shacks and mango trees across the street, and chickens running around outside. if anyone is interested, i;ll put my pictures on flickr and then link to them.
“Why do women like “Jon and Kate plus eight”?”
The kids are cute and seeing 8 of them makes my house seem less chaotic.
““John Sterling just credited Pete for the “Hinske with your best shot” HR call! Suzyn then told him that it was the contest winner from this blog. Way to go!!””
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that is awesome.
why couldn’t I have come up with it??
I think it was Manger?
The past 2 games have just been really bad…i’m hoping somewhere tonight Shelley Duncan gets to hit and slam one out so he doesnt get sent down…
I would try to send down ransom, if he gets claimed, oh well let him go/trade him.
We now have jerry Hariston Jr. and ramiro pena in AAA, we dont need ransom. We need a good bat off the bench.
No Carl,
You are the only one here who seems to think that people are not entitled to posting just because you don’t like their opinion. Get over it.
It’s pretty obvious to anyone who thinks a bit when pitch selection is a bit off. Whether that insults you because you like Posada or not is not relevant. The point is that I still have just as much a right to point it out, whether you like it or not.
I’m sorry that you don’t like to read posts where people actually discuss the cerebral side of the game. Ignore it if you don’t like it, and stop launching personal attacks.
“You will all slam Mitre,”
Not I my dear. I know what it is like to give something my best and still not get the job done right so I am always the last to criticize someone in the same position.
Thank you.
not sure if agreeing with Matt will get me bashed, but…
Jeter had a 2-0 count on a guy who couldnt find the strike zone and went hacking away.
Jorge, of which I’m growing tired of his laziness behind the plate, with 2 double plays and a first pitch loop out with 2nd and 3rd to end the inning.
Aceves threw a wicked 90 mph cutter just before that fly ball, his shoulder is fine.
I don’t watch Jon & Kate Plus 8.
Suggested YES fan poll:
Does Mitre get another start?
1) Yes — because he’s their only option
2) Yes — because no one wants to see Kei Igawa
3) No — because Yanks make a trade/find someone off the waiver scrap heap
4) No — because Yanks use Phil Hughes as 5th starter since he is the best starter they have that’s not in the rotation
Great job Alfredo sauce
Let’s take the lead next inning
aceves looks like he;’s fellin better
Scary, Senor Aceves. You were’t fooling anybody. Might still be a little tender or just a bit rusty.
MMF,
his next start is against Boston
that might affect the poll
Great post Pepitone. Maybe Matt doesnt pot when we are winning for good luck and only posts when hes angry and were losing
Here are your RISP stats:
.262
15th in MLB
9th in AL
Boston hits .277 with RISP, which ranks 3rd in MLB and 2nd in the AL.
Scoring runs is still scoring runs, but it’s pretty apparent that the Yankees have trouble getting big hits against tough pitchers, and the stats bear that out.
GB7,
I agree. He got the job done but looked shaky.
it is true the yanks stink with RISP but it is also true Mitre gave up 5 runs in 3 innings.. he pitched bad, all his pitches were belt high and over the middle of the plate…
anyone with the yanks BA with RISp and compared to the league???
Matt thanks with those stats…
they lead the league in scoring and still are literally avg with RISP…
15th is avg…
I watch Jon & Kate Plus 8 because I like that kids. That is the only reason
Analyzing Matt -
Mitre was mediocre to begin with and now he’s even less so. His poor outing has stressed the offense into trying to do more … 5 runs in 5 innings would normally be a good offensive outing. The hole in the rotation now is just huge. I’m hoping that Hughes will transition smoothly back into the rotation at this point and that Cash can somehow find someone to fill the bullpen spot that Hughes would leave.
“i’m hoping somewhere tonight Shelley Duncan gets to hit and slam one out so he doesnt get sent down…”
You joking right?
wow Arod wants that pitch back
Team RISP: 2 for 9
rats.
It’s interesting to think about.
Are the mediocre RISP stats the result of having so many chances that the stats tend to regress to the mean, or that the Yankees actually do have trouble hitting with RISP? I tend to think that it’s a combination of both to some degree, but it’s pretty obvious that they are afflicted with the latter at times.
Think of how many runs they would score if they hit even .270 with RISP.
were pretty good at hitting pop ups is there a stat for that? JK
Al Leiter is getting irritated with Michael Kay, I love it.
omg matsui
if things don’t get better offensively… 1.5 looms.
this game is over, the Yankees never come from behind late in the game to win, never.
I’m always a positive poster…
BUT…
With with all we keep hearing about how we’ve built up our system…
It does seem a bit strange that we don’t have any starter to bring up…
other than one we signed as an “emergency” roster filler????
After Igawa…
What is there?
Matt -
The only way more runs scored means anything is if it equates to more wins, not bigger wins. You only need to score as many runs as it takes to win. So, while in a game such as yesterday and today another hit or two with RISP would be big, it’s not always the cse.
Plus, wasn’t Hinske’s HR with a runner on 1st base? So he did not get a hit with a RISP, and yet at the time he tied the game and got 2 runs batted in.
only like 20+ times this season all ready, right…
Would be a great spot for a Gardner type runner.
And again, jorge’s laziness at the plate. first pitch out
first pitch after a walk again
What in God’s name is Posada doing tonight? Seriously, this is absolutely inexcusable for a player of his caliber.
posada has been terrible at the plate tonight.
bad bad bad….
Looks like Jorge could use a little hip hip in his gettiup.
Does Posada ever do anything productive at the plate? Besides 1st pitch pop ups and double plays. What terrible at bats…
“this game is over, the Yankees never come from behind late in the game to win, never.”
Another bullet out for Cano.
jeezus – horrible at bats.
pop up after 1 pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it’s painful to watch. And cano just grounded out after 1 pitch
Matsui puts together a great at bat and draws a walk. And then both Posada and Cano swing at the first pitch and get out.
I guess Posada isn’t interested in playing tonight. Another first pitch swing get back in the dugout.
cano with his usually patience.
and don’t tell me he hit it hard…
again he is a 200 hitter with RISP. That tells me he needs to change his approach or you are happy with a 200 avg with RISP or men on base…..
they have had cano played perfectly this series…beckham was so far off the line and cano always hits balls there
Jorge can be productive.
The problem is, he is content with the excellent career he has had with us.
So now he’s just lazy. Defensively, Offensively
This just in…
Damon HR to win game
maybe posada needs to pee on his hands again…
You know that’s just irresponsible for Cano not to bunt in that situation with the 3rd baseman playing shortstop and the tying run on 1st. He could have gotten him into scoring position easily.
Way to work the count there Jorge and Robbie.
2 pitches…2 outs!
Melky threw to 3rd as their was no one on 2nd to throw to.
Trevor and all-
This is my point about throwing away games.
Jorge has done his best today to throw away the game. He doesnt even look remotely interested.
And here we go again, Posada swinging at the first pitch against a guy who just walked a hitter, and of course not getting anything done in doing so.
Some of these guys really have incredibly poor situational awareness.
can we get a box of half eaten donuts for Mitre?
Sorry, but, there’s just too much stupidity right now from the usual clowns. Maybe it’ll disappear when they go to bed.
Yes Matt.
and the worst part is Jorge used to catch this guy.
One could hold a gun to Dotel’s head and say ‘you better throw strikes’ and you’d still get ball 1 ball 2 ball 3 take your base
It’s so much nicer here when the Yankees are winning. The cast of chronic complainers don’t come around during wins, just when the Yankees are losing. And then they go on and on like complaining magpies. But when the Yankees are winning, they are nowhere in sight. They’re like vampires who only come out of their coffins to complain.
Oh well.
amazingly enough for all of you, the Yankees have 248 hits this season with RISP, producing a total of 370 runs.
Those clutch hitting Red Sox? 242 hits with RISP, producing a total of 359 runs.
Yes, the Sox are hitting slightly higher (.277 to .262) but the Yankees have scored more runs.
So let’s give this lack of hitting with RISP a rest already, the Yankees outscore almost everyone in the league because they have the best offense.
The big difference between Arod and Matsui – Matsui will cream a pitch foul then take a walk. Arod will go fishing thinking that the pitcher will make the same mistake twice. That’s the difference between a guy who thinks teams first and one who thinks me first.
We can still come back though!
man we need another starter… badly
so how long are we leaving ace in?
tonight is one of the worst GB…. have to scroll through all the B.S. Not much fun.
AJ P. def on that roid list
rhis is dumb, isn’t he just coming off shoulder sourness?
sar515,
just went through AAA and AA rotations.
Nothing left down there. I can’t envision who could even potentially be called up.
Lots of injuries this year in the minors — Kennedy, Horne, McCalister. Seems like there are several guys with 4 or 5 spot starts at both levels.
Phil Hughes is going to have to come out of the Pen and be the 5th Starter.
Cashman really should have gone after a starting pitcher, as now our Bullpen is going to take a massive hit.
Since Aceves is just coming back from an injury maybe trying to get 2 innings out of him is not smart. Melancon should be in the game now. Girardi is asking too much of Ace.
this is the game
Pierzyinski with another hit? Why haven’t we plunked him for last night?
I think Al Leiter would be very interesting as a coach
This is the first time I’ve been on a game thread during the game for a long time. (I stopped by to report the news about Sterling crediting Pete for the Hinske line.) Folks, please stop the negativity and the squabbling. It’s so unnecessarily. If you’re feeling grumpy, maybe you should just read for awhile and not post until you can be more balanced.
“this is the game”
Pretty much. I would have used Melancon by now.
you guys have to remember the game has changed since the league started cracking down on amphetamines.
Older players, like Jorge, need some Dexedrine to get things going during the dog days.
As for Cano, Caribbean hitters are traditionally lack plate discipline.
Nice catch..def a concussion tho
I hope Damon is ok…
Hughes, Mo, and Aceves are the only relievers that are consistent. Taking Hughes out of the pen leaves us with a closer and one relief pitcher.
Coke is good, but not great.
Bruney blows.
Robertson is iffy.
Albaladejo never plays.
Melancon never plays.
This won’t cut it in the playoffs.
Jeez…What a play!
omg Damon
Wow, that’s a GREAT catch by Damon. I really hope he didn’t hurt himself crashing in to the wall.
did anyone tag up ???????????
What a play!!!!!!
thanks for getting a starter and a reliever cashman!
For those not paying attention-
MPB Johnny Damon just made a completely awesome catch AND throw to the cut-off man
did that really just happen?
Johnny!!
OUCH!
Nobody tagged up!!!!!! They must think theyre playing the Red Sox.
If they’re playing over in Wrigley, Damon may have perished…
Erica-your pretend boyfriend did good!
Aceves is getting tatooed. Come on Joe get Melancon in the game…
650 feet of outs right there.
Since Aceves is just coming back from an injury maybe trying to get 2 innings out of him is not smart. Melancon should be in the game now. Girardi is asking too much of Ace.
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totally true….
Screw it, just bring up Igawa (just not against the Red Sox).
He literally can not be any worse than Sergio Mitre (whose name is far cooler than his pitching ability).
man quentin is on fire tonight.
aceves has given up 4 long outs. 2 to the track…
Sox meauring the diameters of the park?
Ya gotta love the hustle of Damon!
Prime example of predictability this inning.
Every lefty hitter is going up there sitting on fastballs on the outside corner and CRUSHING them. They clearly know what’s coming. So what does Posada keep doing?
He keeps calling for the same pitch in the same spot.
How about you go inside at least once and make them think, rather than just giving it to them?
It’s 10-6 right now at Yankee Stadium
Johnny Damon gives you everything he’s got night in and night out! It doesn’t matter how much money he makes, he will never dog it out there.
He’s not the most athletically gifted player, but give me 9 Johnny Damons and I’ll take my chances.
S.A.–Serenity Now
July 31st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Erica-your pretend boyfriend did good!
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Thank you. All of those blog posters bashing his defense is getting him angry!
“If they’re playing over in Wrigley, Damon may have perished…”
Your use of the word “perished” instead of “died” cracked me up.
meauring= measuring
If we get out of this, the game is ours!!
The one thing that bothers me about Girardi is he ALWAYS extends a pitcher too much. You would think he watches them and can tell when a pitcher is done.
Prediction: Ace goes on disabled list this weekend
Pepitone
July 31st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Johnny Damon gives you everything he’s got night in and night out! It doesn’t matter how much money he makes, he will never dog it out there.
He’s not the most athletically gifted player, but give me 9 Johnny Damons and I’ll take my chances.
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Give me 9 Johnny Damons and I wouldn’t know where to put my eyes!!!
my favorite ice skater made a tremendous catch in LF !
thankfully he got up after being checked into the boards….
Ace is shot
fastball outside corner do it Jorge
He has Aceves out there for 30 pitches so far. Just coming off a fatigue shoulder.
Not a fan of Girardi pen management this year. Last year he was much better. With lesser talent.
Is Al Leiter screwing with Michael Kay asking him what position he played?
And is Kay really touting his first base defensive skills?
I’m laughing very hard.
he’s just rusty.
This WhiteSox team reminds me of the 2003 Yankees.
Swish already dressed to PH next inning.
Ace has nothing tonight, get him out of there Girardi and take your chances with the rookie. It’s going to be 8-5 when Aceves leaves this game.
You really have to wonder what Girardi is waiting for to take him out….
Ace is either pitching scared, or pitching hurt. Everything was away from that batter. Either he can’t control the ball the way he wants to, or he knows he’s been hammered and is scared that attacking the batter is going to result in a ball in the seats.
Ace must have a “dead arm”
i know Girardi has left him out too long but who do you go to? Melancon in this huge spot??
Aceves looks fatigued out there. When will Girardi throw away the pitch counts and use his eyes a bit? You can’t leave Aceves out there to dry if he’s got nothing left in the tank.
I just put the game back on now -wow, Aceves looked dreadful in that at bat. Why is Joe pushing this guy after not having pitched in awhile? Stupid move and foolish……
I just put the game back on now -wow, Aceves looked dreadful in that at bat. Why is Joe pushing this guy after not having pitched in awhile? Stupid move and foolish……
GAME SET MATCH
Jeez. 0-2 pitch again.
oh well, we can still come back. but its that much tougher
Oh well………lousy job by Aceves, but there is NO way he should have been out there.
How long until we get the lecture from Matt?
They are having their issues with anyone that has “Sox” in their name this year.
I think the WGN announcer just died of excitement.
Why is it that other hitters always seem to hit good pitches, and our hitters pop out at pitches in the middle of the plate?
BA with RISP..
last 2 outings Aceves could not get it done, the oakland loss was his and tonight not get it done…
0-2 pitch. Ugh.
another 0-2 pitch hit by ace
Aura July 31st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Ace has nothing tonight, get him out of there Girardi and take your chances with the rookie. It’s going to be 8-5 when Aceves leaves this game.”
LOL
ESP?
This is turning into a pretty rough series… better take the next 2 games.
good pitch there…better hitting…i usually dont complain about joes choices but ace should not be out there now i think
Giving up 0-2 hits is unacceptable in the little league. Come on you throw that pitch in the dirt.
You walk a guy batting .225, you’re going to get beaten by the guy hitting .263. Plain and simple.
I hope they do, but honestly, I will be unconditionally shocked if they pull themselves off the mat this time.
Erica, come on, down girl!!!!
People keep saying what would happen to the bull pen if you take Aceves or Hughes out of the pen and move them to the rotation. How will the pen survive.
You know what’s going to really hurt the pen – will destroy it?
3 inning starts from the 5th starter.
For whatever reason, the yankees didn’t make a trade today for another starter.
They are going to need to reassess how they are distributing their pitching resources between the pen and the rotation.
Just watching Aceves pitch now – he’s simply not the same pitcher.
This is a guy who has never relieved before.
He’s clearly still not fully right.
But he’s still out there throwing pitches.
If pitching out of the bull pen is ruining his arm then he’s not real valuable out of the pen.
Joe Girardi is a gutless manager. He manages the game with a stat sheet and a blindfold.
lookin bleak
Oh no
unbelievable
Ball game. Goodnight, everyone.
Jorge with laziness again.
why did he throw to 2nd???
“GAME SET MATCH”
You’ve seen our team, yet you think it’s over?
Honestly? A double steal. Ugly baseball.
uhhh why did that ball go through
When Tony Pena touches his chin and nose and then his chin again, I think thats the sign that Alfredo Aceves is tired.
Geez, this is awful……WHAT is Joe doing leaving Aceves out there? He’s gassed and he’s awful tonight…….TERRIBLE managing.
Double steal. Ugh.
Bad throw by Posada. If Jeter didn’t have to jump to get it they might have had the runner out at home.
DISGUSTING!!!!!!! Way to throw the towel in Joe.
Again why is Aceves still in the game? What’s wrong with Melancon starting the 7th inning?
Thanks for the info MMF…
Pretty scary isn’t it?
Can you pitch???
i guess we can thank Brian Cashman for ruining Al Aceves’ season by starting him in Minny
Zach in Port Jeff
July 31st, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Jeez. 0-2 pitch again.
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Can hardly blame Aceves on that pitch. Low and about 6 inches off of the outside of the plate. No way that Getz should have gotten a bat on that one.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOS 8 NYY 0 = Yankees in first place
“GAME SET MATCH”
You’ve seen our team, yet you think it’s over?
Yes
Mark this down on your calendar folks as the day that Girardi threw away the season by going too long with the most important pitcher/player on the team while he was hurt.
aceves cannot be a starter he does not have good enough stuff.
yanks outsmarted on the double steal.
being outplayed….BA with RISP, bottom line. but hey cano has 2 hits tonight…………
Jorge again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posada is not mentaly there tonight
What a joke! Our defense is going down the toilet.
Joe G trust only 3 pitchers Mo, Hughes and Ace… thats not going to cut it
0-2 hit? AGAIN?
UNBELIEVABLE.
And now a steal of home.
It’s obvious that Posada does not have his head in this game. How can you let this fall apart in the way that you have?
The Yankees have nobody to blame but themselves for these last 2 games. Two games the Yankees have just outright GIVEN AWAY. You have to win the games that you are in position to win, you can’t go out there and play dumb baseball.
Dumb. That’s the only word you can use to describe Posada.
And there you go, he dropped ANOTHER ball. Posada’s stupid pitch selection and terrible defense have cost them all of the runs in this inning.
This is pathetic.
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOS 8 NYY 0 = Yankees in first place
What do you think now?…Ugly Inning here
Posada can’t get a grip on anything today, lol.
When did the White Sox become the Rays?
Steals home… i’m sorry any team that can let a steal home happen deserves to lose.
posadA is not out there tonight.
when jorge cannot hit he is a net negative defensively.
UGLY UGLY UGLY..
Well, this game is over, Yankees look like they’re lost out there.
Glad Burnett is pitching tomorrow. But, I do not like what I’m seeing out there, way way too many mistakes.
This is the kind of baseball that gets you swept.
Thanks Cashman for getting a middle rotation starter and another reliever!!
“i know Girardi has left him out too long but who do you go to? Melancon in this huge spot??”
Don’t take a chance and you’re never going to find out.
Didn’t turn out real well with Aceves out there.
These guys aren’t machines. They’re not.
If they physically can’t do it – they can’t do it.
Leaving them out there on the mound and just ignoring that because your alternative is an untested rookie is just playing pretend that the guy physically can’t do it.
Aceves. AAA player tops.
yankees not outsmarted, jorge outsmarted
This whole inning is Girardi’s fault. I will be shocked if Aceves isn’t on the DL very shortly.
Good thing we…
- did not pick up another arm
- took an arm out of the bullpen and replaced it with Shelly Duncan
We cannot beat the Sox this year.
White nor Red.
Woah, I thought I saw tears on Aceves face. Then I remembered that Aceves doesn’t have emotions.
Oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, he goes to the bull pen.
Sheesh. Why bother.
posada looks like crap. wew could have used v-mart, lee, and halladay
Oh now you take him. Nice managing by the manager. Continues to over extend his pitchers.
ugh game getting outta reach
not a good game for Posada tonight.
the good news is at the end of the day, the sun will still come up.
With apologies to Abraham I do feel it was Cashman’s obligation to get this team a starter today…I’m worried that now that he’s going to deal with waivers he’s only going to get someone marginally better than Sergio Mirte.
Mitre cost his team the victory tonight no two ways about it…very frustrating to watch a game when you know your starting pitcher isn’t going to keep your team in the game.
*shakes head*
“PL
July 31st, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! BOS 8 NYY 0 = Yankees in first place
What do you think now?…Ugly Inning here”
Srsly? I think we’re going to comeback against them.
rephrase… game over
good night
so we will have no bullpen tomorrow…
Look at Ace’s line tonight…i can see the DL for him by Sun…Next up Igawa
Girardi was stretching out Aceves he will be in the rotation by Mitre next start.
Finally, JOe – I’m sorry, that was disgraceful managing. The guy is coming back from a sore arm and he pushes him that far? Throw Melancon out there………
I don’t know if Aceves’ arm problems started because he started that game in Minny or because he’s just adjusting to be a reliever, but he is just bad right now. The Yankees have real problems……
“Can hardly blame Aceves on that pitch. Low and about 6 inc