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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 03, 2009 
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CC Sabathia decided enough was enough and beat the White Sox in a game the Yankees had to have.
Melky Cabera hit the cycle. This notebook also has updates on Robinson Cano, Jesus Montero and Mariano Rivera.
Anyone see what Victor Martinez did for the Red Sox yesterday? Yes, it was against the Orioles, but, a career-high 5 hits. It also seems like “Yuck” is out of his slump.
I’ve always figured that this was going to be a back-and-forth run for the division, so I’m not overly upset that the lead is down to a half game. However, it is curious how the Yankees can play such crisp baseball and then such cr*p baseball in the span of a few games.
I guess they really did need the day off today.
Too bad about Montero. Guess he won’t be a Sept. call-up?
Winning the division is key this year, the wild card road could be too taxing.
Doreen
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
Anyone see what Victor Martinez did for the Red Sox yesterday? Yes, it was against the Orioles, but, a career-high 5 hits. It also seems like “Yuck” is out of his slump.
I’ve always figured that this was going to be a back-and-forth run for the division, so I’m not overly upset that the lead is down to a half game. However, it is curious how the Yankees can play such crisp baseball and then such cr*p baseball in the span of a few games.
I guess they really did need the day off today.
Too bad about Montero. Guess he won’t be a Sept. call-up?
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I still think Montero gets brought to NYY for teatment and instruction from Pena and Girardi. 4-6 weeks puts it around the first or second week in September. He wasn’t going to play anyway, just travel and sit with the big kids. NYY has been doing that since 1950. They just don’t activate them.
The wild card will lead to a first round loss to the Angels. The Yankees need to pull out all the stops to win the division.
“However, it is curious how the Yankees can play such crisp baseball and then such cr*p baseball in the span of a few games.”
Same reason as the Red Sox. It’s a long season.
“The wild card will lead to a first round loss to the Angels. The Yankees need to pull out all the stops to win the division.”
If you put it that way, won’t they just lose in the ALCS against the Angels anyway?
To all those people that think all the Yankees were exposed. I dont think so.There are couple guys that fit the bill for steroid use.I’m not going to name them but I have no doubt that they did use steroids at some point.
“If you put it that way, won’t they just lose in the ALCS against the Angels anyway?”
Yes, but it’s better to lose to them in the ALCS than in the wildcard.
question: game 7 of the world series, which yankee starter do you want on the mound?
anyone know a good place to follow who’s on the waiver wire?
Henner…at this exact moment….. Andy Pettite.
“question: game 7 of the world series, which yankee starter do you want on the mound?”
Depends on the inning.
1st inning? Right now I’d want Burnett
9th inning? Um, duh.
Christina25
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
To all those people that think all the Yankees were exposed. I dont think so.There are couple guys that fit the bill for steroid use.I’m not going to name them but I have no doubt that they did use steroids at some point.
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Do you think that only 2 RS did PED’s?
I hope you aren’t that naieve.
“anyone know a good place to follow who’s on the waiver wire?”
Don’t know any site that tracks that. Not sure how public MLB wants that to be. MLBTR is still good for some info.
GB7 -
Thanks. I thought they still might, hence the “?”
From a financial standpoint, it is important to win the division to guarantee 2 games at home. Because he DS is 3 of 5, if you’re the wild card, the possibility exists that you only play 1 home game. (Perish the thought!)
But if the Yankees get the playoffs in any way – WC or division, it’s a new season and I’m not conceding anything to anyone.
7th game of WS? Right now, Joba. Ask again in another week!
“question: game 7 of the world series, which yankee starter do you want on the mound?”
Depends on the inning.
1st inning? Right now I’d want Burnett
9th inning? Um, duh.
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hence the question asks “which yankee starter?”
obviously in the ninth girardi would hand the ball to bruney
Misread your question Henner. My answer for Yankees starter in Game 7 is Burnett.
Watching the 3rd inning of yesterday’s game right now. That sure happened quickly. And I really don’t like the fireworks after the HRs. Seems like overkill.
Did you all see the article on the Wall Street Journal about the Yankees? Go check it out, it is interesting reading, especially for all of us who sometimes feel that the world will end if the Yanks don’t beat the Sux this coming series.
Excerpt:
“A common criticism of the New York Yankees this year is that they play poorly against good teams. After losing three of four games to the Chicago White Sox, the Yankees are 24-29 against teams that are currently .500 or better. Even worse, they are 0-8 against their archrivals, the Boston Red Sox, against whom they open a four-game series on Thursday. How can the Yankees win in October, the thinking goes, if they’re so-so against good teams now?”
Wikipedia:
The waiver “wire” is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs
“How can the Yankees win in October, the thinking goes, if they’re so-so against good teams now?””
Generally, even good teams play in the neighborhood of .500 against other good teams during the regular season.
the cost of not having a consistent solid 5.50 era fitth starter is that the team knows it and tends to press in the other games they know they need to win.
the yankees need someone in the 5th starter role who is good enough that the team isn’t dreading the spot coming up in the rotation.
it’s a negative emotional sink hole for the team at the present that puts pressure on the other 4 starters..
it’s cashman’s achille’s heel that he almost always has trouble with this fifth starter role.
he had it covered this year before he turned two starters into short relievers in hughes and aceves.
you can’t stick a guy like livan hernandez at triple a so it’s difficult to stock pile veteran 5th starters.
so it makes it questionable what cashman was thinking in taking his two triple a starters and making them into short relievers.
there was an obvious need for the 7th and 8th inning , but does it really help to take the 6th and 7th starter to fill this gap who are your 5th starter replacements?
i think they should have been left as starters and quality relievers found.
if the logic that joba should start because 6 innings is more valuable than 2 innings, then hughes and aceves should have stayed stretched out as starters.
cashman has played the yankees into a problem that doesn’t appear to have an immediate solution.
“Wikipedia:
The waiver “wire” is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs”
Alright, how bout a good place to track which guys have been DFA’d? Isn’t that the same thing? Everyone seems to know when a player gets DFA’d so it doesn’t sound like the waiver wire is that much of a secret…I must be missing something.
randy I, I agree it would be preferrable AT THIS MOMENT to have Hughes available to start but at the time no one could have predicted that Wang would get hurt and not be good enough to at least serve as the number 5 starter. So with Wang available on the rotation is Hughes more valuable to the Yankees club as a AAA starter or helping slam the door on teams in the 8th inning? There’s a good chance the Yankees wouldn’t be in the position we’re in without Hughes’ contribution to the BP. He’s not the only reason we won the games we did, but I would guess he helped us hold onto a few that would have turned into L’s if he hadn’t been there.
DFA: Irrevocable Outright Waiver
Waiver wire: can be revocable
Christina25
To all those people that think all the Yankees were exposed. I dont think so.There are couple guys that fit the bill for steroid use.I’m not going to name them but I have no doubt that they did use steroids at some point.
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Really? At least Kay’s son wasn’t openly using steroids and working closely with our team. Unlike the Rem Dog’s son who had close contacts with Manny/Ortiz and openly admitted to using steroids. Where was that in the Mitchel Report? Get over it, you’re tainted and your 2 recent world series wins are as tainted as any team in the game.
Why don’t you name them? I’m guessing the reason you don’t is because we’ll rip you apart mercilessly. Nobody knows who and who didn’t take steroids including people who know the game a lot better than you or myself.
Pete can we please ban this troll, there’s lots of Sox fans who add to the conversation but Christina just spouts out unsubstantiated garbage and appears to know little to nothing about the game.
Wikipedia: The long version:
Any player under contract may be placed on waivers at any time. If a player is waived, any team may claim him. If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player’s league gets preference. If no team in the player’s league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference. In the first month of the season, preference is determined using the previous year’s standings.
If a team claims a player off waivers and has the viable claim as described above, his current team (the “waiving team”) may choose one of the following options:
arrange a trade with the claiming team for that player within two business days of the claim; or
rescind the request and keep the player on its major league roster, effectively canceling the waiver; or
do nothing and allow the claiming team to (1) assume the player’s existing contract, (2) pay the waiving team a waiver fee, and (3) place the player on its active major league roster.
If a player is claimed and the waiving team exercises its rescission option, the waiving team may not use the option again for that player in that season. If no team claims a player from waivers in three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded, or released outright.
The Waiver Wire, from what I’ve read, is an internal system run by email.
Team places player or players on waivers via email and all teams have the opportunity to claim the player via email. It’s an internal, privatly run system.
I, for one, am thankfull that there isn’t a press release released to the media every time that a player gets put on trade-waivers.
Could you imagine this place if it were announced that Arod of Jeter were placed on waivers and (gasp!) claimed by another team. Some posters would lose there minds! OMG we’re going to lose Arod!
sorry for bringing this up on a new thread but doesn’t it bother anyone here that CC decided that “Thats all they get” and for the most part actually pitched that way after giving up the 4 runs?
Shouldn’t he be pitching that way every inning? So he basically admitted that he was thinking about a double whopper for the first 4 innings and then like magic he pitches like the 170 million dollar pitcher that he is supposed to be for the last 4 innings..
I like the guy, really I do, and if he wasn’t here (even with his mediocre record) the yankees would probably be in 3rd place or worse right now, but I just can’t seem to understand that he can pitch like cr*p for 4 innings and then something clicks and he pitches like the guy they are paying $20 million a year for the next 4….maybe money does really make some people complacent….
“there was an obvious need for the 7th and 8th inning , but does it really help to take the 6th and 7th starter to fill this gap who are your 5th starter replacements?”
Yep you are totally right. I’ve been saying all season that it’s a mistake to put Hughes in the pen. Yeah he’s great there but it completely eliminates all pitching depth.
Everyone knew that all 5 starters wouldn’t stay healthy for the entire season, that’s by the 6, 7 and 8th pitchers were very important.
The 6th starter and 7th starters (Hughes and Ace) were put in the pen. The 8th starter missed the entire year with a freak injury (Kennedy). Mitre is essentially the 9th starting pitcher. It never should have gone that deep.
Unfortunately, at this point, it’s probably too late to move Ace or Hughes into the rotation. We saw what happened when Joba did that last year and when Ace did it this year. They both came down with injuries.
Right now the only chance Cashman has to fill the hole is to acquire a pitcher on the waiver wire. The only problem is, the pitcher isn’t going to be very good and will probably cost a lot of money. Jon Garland anybody? Ugh…
typo .. rather than “that’s by the 6, 7 … ” should ready “that’s WHY …”
Montero, when he’s healthy is headed to the AFL.
Chad Qualls ??
Interesting tidbit…
Melky was batting from the left for his first 3 hits and then finished it off with a triple from the right. Pretty unusual!
Wang’s injury really hurt this rotation. He was a #2/3 in the rotation capable of another 19 wins.
No Hughes or Aceves in the rotation. Cashman will hope to get a starter off waivers. Hopefully someone better than Mitre.
“Chad Qualls ??”
Haven’t heard much about him. Bet you though, teams were interested, but the price was too big.