Game 106: Yankees at Blue Jays (updated with pre-game Girardi audio)
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YANKEES (63-42)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hinske RF
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (8-6, 4.51).
BLUE JAYS (51-54)
Scutaro SS
Hill 2B
Lind DH
Millar 1B
Wells CF
Rios RF
Encarnacion 3B
Barajas C
Bautista LF
Pitching: RHP Roy Halladay (11-4, 2.68).
TIME/TV: 7:07 p.m./YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are 3-4 on a road trip that ends tomorrow. They lead the Red Sox by a half-game in the AL East. The Yankees have lost three of four, four of six and five of the last nine.
JAYS DAYS: The Yankees are 5-2 against the Blue Jays this season.
NO HALLADAY: Roy Halladay — still a Blue Jay — is 16-5 with a 2.90 ERA against the Yankees in his career. He is 8-0, 2.10 in his last 10 starts against the Yankees. He is 1-0 with a 3.38 ERA against them in two starts this season. Halladay took a no-decision on July 4 in the Bronx when he allowed five runs on nine hits over seven innings including home runs by Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Jorge Posada.
ANDY DANDY IN CANADA: Pettitte is 13-5, 3.95 at the Rogers Centre in 19 career starts. He is 1-1, 5.25 against the Jays this season. Pettitte has a has a 2.70 ERA in three starts since the All-Star break. Over 20 innings he has allowed only 16 hits and three walks while striking out 23.
MAGNIFICENT MARIANO: Mariano Rivera allowed a run on June 12. Here’s his line since: 18 appearances, 18 innings, 5 hits, 0 runs, 3 walks, 18 strikeouts. Opponents have hit .086 against him with a .131 on-base percentage. The Yankees are 18-0 in those games.
HUGHES COMES UP HUGE: Phil Hughes has a 0.95 ERA in 20 relief appearances and has whiffed 34 in 28.1 innings.
RISP ON THE ROAD TRIP: The Yankees are 18 of 77 (.233) with runners in scoring position on the road trip.
MELKY IS THE MAN: Melky Cabrera is 15 of 35 in his last 11 games with 10 extra-base hits, five RBI, six walks and only two strikeouts.
SWISHER SAFELY: Nick Swisher has hit safely in seven of the last eight games at 9 of 29 (.310) with five extra-base hits. He has raised his batting average from .233 to .241.
MILESTONE WATCH: Derek Jeter is six stolen bases away from 300. Only 154 players have 300.
PUTRID PITCHING: The Yankees haven’t chucked it too well in the last three games: 25 innings, 41 hits, 29 earned runs, 13 walks, 20 strikeouts.
ACE NO MORE: Alfredo Aceves has allowed 10 earned runs in his last 8.1 innings. He has only two appearances since July 21.
MELANCON COULD MATTER: Mark Melancon has not allowed a run in his last 4.1 innings.
ONE-RUN REPORT: The Yankees are 15-12 in one-run games, 4-6 in the last 10.
TOUGH DOWN THE STRETCH: Joe Girardi has handled his bullpen well over the last two seasons. The Yankees are 110-5 when leading after six innings, 120-5 when leading after seven and 129-1 when leading after eight innings.
DROUGHT: Alex Rodriguez has gone 53 at-bats since his last home run.
THE TORONTO TERROR: A-Rod has hit .303 with 31 homers in his career at the Rogers Centre.
GREATEST YANKEE EVER: Jerry Hairston Jr. is 3 for 6 with two RBI, a walk, a run scored and a sacrifice in two games as a Yankee.
POSADA PLUNGES: Jorge Posada is 3 for 23 on the road trip with one extra-base hit and two RBI.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 5:51 p.m.: Not much new to report. Damaso Marte pitched 0.2 innings against Pawtucket today, walking one and striking out two He has now made eight appearances in the minors. The Yankees can leave him on rehab for a month.
Numbers vs. Halladay for the lineup:
Jeter 20-83
Damon 30-86
Teixeira 6-26
Rodriguez 20-66
Matsui 12-50
Posada 13-45
Cano 7-38
Cabrera 8-32
Hinske 6-24
Swisher is 2-14, hence he sits.
UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game with the writers and Kim Jones:
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UPDATE, 7:13 p.m.: We’re underway in Toronto. Johnny Damon, as he always seems to, had a single against Halladay.
Small crowd here.
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: Tremendous break for the Yankees there. Halladay dropped the throw from Millar and an alert A-Rod scored on on the play as his slide dislodged the ball from Barajas.
The error was given to Millar, which I’m not sure I understand. The ball was in Halladay’s glove. Nonetheless, Yankees 2-0.
UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Still 2-0 but the Yankees are hitting Halladay hard. Even some of the outs have been rockets.
UPDATE, 8:19 p.m.: Halladay has reverted back into his nasty self. He has retired the last seven batters in order. Yankees 2-1 in a speedy game.
UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Andy has gotten away with a few tonight. I have five line-drive outs recorded in my scorebook. Terrific game between two guys who really know how to pitch.
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: Wow, Phil Hughes is filthy. 96, 97 then a hook that froze Jose Bautista like Ted Williams.
Pettitte’s last 26.2 innings: 7 ER and 29 K. He has his swerve on.
UPDATE, 9:03 p.m.: Johnny Damon owns Roy Halladay. Wow. He’s 32 of 90 with three homers.
UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: And Tex goes back to back. Huge runs for the Yankees, who now lead 4-1.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Those really were huge runs as Hughes and Rivera have allowed two runs here in the eighth inning. It’s 4-3 Yankees and Mo needs to escape a jam here.
UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Mo squirms out of it. They’ll take at least a one-run lead into the bottom of the ninth. Encarnacion, Chavez and Bautista due up for the Jays.
UPDATE, 9:44 p.m.: Nice win for the Yankees, who are 4-4 on the trip with one game left. Mariano Rivera has converted 100 of his last 103 save chances going back to 2007. That’s pretty ridiculous.
The Yankees walked the edge in this one, didn’t they? Back with reaction from the clubhouse.
YankeesWFAN: Rain today in Toronto. Roof is closed. Which I believe is how Halladay likes it anyway. He can control the weather. Really is a god.
LAST CALL FOR “GUESS THE LINE UP”
Submissions until 3:40 (any after will be disregarded)
Here’s who is in so far:
WTTCTOHA
Fran, Miggs, Servox, YanksFan, Patrick, Matt, Durham Yankee, William Buckner (same)
Hokiehill, AMS223 (same)
Upstate Kate
L to the 2nd
Robbykid, Largo, Doink Da Clown, Andrew, Steve B (same)
IDCWYT
Andrew33
RDM
Mark H
Back to what I said in the other post:
I know he isn’t the best of players, but you have to be considerate of these people. It would be changing his life style, maybe even giving him a huge demotion. Yes, it would be beneficial for the team, but you have to be considerate.
Plus, this is the team that kept Angel Berroa sitting on the bench for a full month before designating him for assignment. Plus this is the team who went roughly three weeks without using a reliever (Melancon).
Jeter SS
Damon CF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
I havent had a second to breathe at work today ( I guess this is my fault for taking off yesterday?), but I am taking a 2 minute “time out” to play.
Jete SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Matsui DH
Jorge C
Cano 2B
Melky CF
Hinske RF
Hopefully Melancon steps up during Ace’s slump.
RayVT, NYY626 – all good
“YankeesWFAN: Rain today in Toronto. Roof is closed. Which I believe is how Halladay likes it anyway. He can control the weather. Really is a god.”
This is hilarious but unfortunately it also reflects the fear of God he instills in a lot of the people that post here because of his success against the Yanks. Yet every time they play him I am oddly confident, and even when you look at the Yankees’ individual numbers in their careers against him they are not that terrible (some are pretty bad, but others have had moderate success). All in all, I am still hopeful for tonight.
Matt (NYY fan in Boston)
I know he isn’t the best of players, but you have to be considerate of these people. It would be changing his life style, maybe even giving him a huge demotion. Yes, it would be beneficial for the team, but you have to be considerate.
good one Matt.
I fear Halladay. I’m going to be honest. He owns the Yankees more often than not.
But let’s see.
Thank-you Erica!!
If you look on ESPN.com, accuscore simulates each game 10,000 times to come up with the odds. According to Accuscore, Halladay wins all 10,000 times.
Small change…”Tuesday” has now been changed to “Halladay”.
1. Jeter ss
2.Damon lf
3.Tex 1st
4.A-rod 3rd
5.Matsui Dh
6.Posada C
7.Cano 2nd
8.Swisher rf
9.Melk man cf
Lets go yankees
I am sorry Justin, you are too late. No line ups after 3:40
Little bit of History maybe…Halladay is only 6 strike outs short of 10,000
10,000?
Yes Brian, we are talking about Roy Halladay here.
6 strike outs away from 10,000 means Halladay will have 10,000 after the top of the 2nd, right?
wow thanks erica
it just seems like he should have way more than 10,000 by now.
JUSTIN…FROM THE INTERNET
August 4th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
wow thanks erica
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Sorry Justin, but I made it clear repeatedly there are no line ups after 3:40. If I made an exception for you I would have to make it for everyone.
Sorry again
Correct Andrew. In fact, the only player to ever face Halladay and not strike out was Hall of Famer Ruben Sierra. It was July 19th, 2002. Ruben Sierra came up in the bottom of the 9th, bases empty, with the Yanks losing 2-0 as Halladay was one out away from the 14th Perfect Game of his career. Ruben then preceeded to hit a walk off homerun. The ball is now displayed next to Ruben’s plaque in the hall.
Do you think that the Yanks would ever admit that given Ace that spot-start a few weeks back was a mistake?
Hopefully they learn from it and keep Ace and Phil firmly planted in their bullpen roles until the end of the season.
“Yes Brian, we are talking about Roy Halladay here.”
Genuflect when you say that, fella!!!
I heard Halladay flosses his teeth between innings (they get dirty from all that eating the Yankees’ hitters souls he does on the mound) with the navy blue thread they use to sew on all the Yankees’ pinstripes onto their uniforms.
Heh..Ruben Sierra had a hall of fame smile, as well. and man, did he know how to dress..
don’t worry Justin, it was wrong anyway.
you dont have to make an exception for me not like there is a prize to be won i could play by my self lol no prob erica while i was posting put that so i didnt see ..but NO EXCEPTIONS I WILL TRY AGAIN TOMORROW If i miss it again i will have to play alone again
Okay- for 7pm game starts the window for submissions for “Guess the Line Up” is 2-3:40. I’ll look for your entry tomorrow
hokiehill would have been great to say if someone asked you
Correct Andrew. In fact, the only player to ever face Halladay and not strike out was Hall of Famer Ruben Sierra. It was July 19th, 2002. Ruben Sierra came up in the bottom of the 9th, bases empty, with the Yanks losing 2-0 as Halladay was one out away from the 14th Perfect Game of his career. Ruben then preceeded to hit a walk off homerun. The ball is now displayed next to Ruben’s plaque in the hall.
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umm…if the yankees were losing 2-0 and sierra proceeded to hit a walk off homerun – then technically halladay wouldn’t have had a perfect game since they would have been 2 runners on base when sierra hit his walk off…but i guess just like the redsox – MLB will make every exception possible when it comes to halladay…
I believe Joba has the potential to one day win the Roy Halladay.
I remember that game…Ruben Sierra’s famous bases empty 3 run HR.
I rumor has it that he hit the ball so far that it wasn’t found until exactly one year later, when it had copletely orbited the Earth. The ball ended up finally falling right inside the batters’ box-coincidentally when Ruben Sierra was batting. Versus Roy Halladay. Down 4-0 in the bottom of the ninth, Ruben Sierra then hit the same ball that he hit for the Earth orbiting HR the previous year so far it broke free of Earth’s gravity and created a crater and small explosion on the moon.
And thus the Yankees’ won on Sierra’s even more famous five run HR.
Was I the only one who got prematurely excited when they saw the “No Halladay” teaser?
*shakes fist at Pete in mock anger.
you told him.
no perfect game,
you must have missed the part where I said the bases were empty. Therefore the perfect game was still intact. You also must have missed the part where I said Ruben Sierra was batting.
From the previous thread ….
CB – not to change the topic, but you asked me last night about Bucholz. I didn’t get a chance to get back to you.
In a nutshell, when he throws a fastball it (1) misses the plate, or (2) drifta back over the middle and gets hammered. He doesn’t get hurt with his curve and changeup, but his fastball is getting killed.
The Red Sox insist on fastball primacy and fastball command. Bucholz tries to please, gets creamed, gets despondent, and loses focus. I’m sure he’d rather feature his secondary stuff (which can be very good).
I had hoped he’d be traded while his value is high. Unlike the young Jon Lester, who battled (even while weakened by cancer), Bucholz just seems to disintegrate …… and with good reason ….. sometimes, it seems as though EVERY fastball is creamed.
If he and/or Smoltz are effective against the Yankees this week, it will be a very pleasant surprise.
CB, do you think the Yankees are making a mistake with their drafting philosophy? I understand why they would draft high reward/high risk pitchers given their drafting position, but what is the point of doing that when 80% of these guys are breaking down? Eventually the flow of pitchers is going to stop – while Kontos, Betances, Garcia, etc……are out for a year or more due to TJ surgery, who is going to replace them? There will be a black hole in the organization. Also, thanks to the concentration on pitching, our system is barren of position prospects after Jackson/Montero….at least until you get to A ball.
We have to win the games where we face Bucholz and Smoltz. Have to.
sorry ruben – yes i did miss that one -
ruben was so awesome that day that joe toree even gave him a big hug (in between picking his nose and falling asleep on the bench)
Yessssss Ruben Sierra v. 09 is in the lineup..thank God.
Studies have shown that Ruben Sierra would have tested positive for over 10 performance enhancing drugs simply because of the chemicals his body naturally produced.
“who is going to replace them? There will be a black hole in the organization.”
betsy, the answer is Manny Banuelos, Z-McAllister, Vizcaino who is now pitching on SI, Ivan Nova, maybe Andrew Brackman figures it out (big maybe), maybe they sign Aroldis Chapman (another big maybe), they are now stretching out Kroenke and Kaneko Texeira…the Yankees still have a lot of depth.
If he and/or Smoltz are effective against the Yankees this week, it will be a very pleasant surprise.
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Don’t be too surprised if Bucholz and Smoltz pitch well in New York this weekend…they are due for good outings. Even bad pitchers have a good outing once in a while. Neither Bucholz nor Smoltz are bad pitchers…they simply have been struggling with their command. If their command is good this weekend they will do OK. If not, then they will get to take early showers.
Congratulations go out to NYY626 who is today’s winner of “Guess the Line-Up”. NYY626 correctly guessed today’s line up at 3:31.
Thank you all for playing. Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”.
(I will post updated standings in a few)
Ugh I would have gotten the lineup right if Joe Girardi wasn’t so obsessed with breaking up his lefties! Stupid Hinske batting 9th instead of Melky…
Sorry to bring up the Red Sox, but it completely baffles me how Ortiz has not addressed the media yet. I absolutely would not be surprised if Francona sits Ortiz for the majority of the upcoming series. I’m sorry, but no athlete would get away with this in New York.
Darn. I lost.
I’m out. See ya.
“In a nutshell, when he throws a fastball it (1) misses the plate, or (2) drifts over the middle and gets hammered. He doesn’t get hurt with his curve and changeup, but his fast ball is getting killed.”
Brian,
Thanks for the answer. I agree with your assessment, though I’ve seen him pitch less than you have.
Bucchholz has interested me as a baseball fan because the basis for his greatest strenghts, IMO, is also his achilles heel.
His change up is a thing of beauty. The deception and fade are tremendous. The 12-6 curve ball is also excellent.
I think both of those pitches get their action at least in part due to the radical over the top arm action and release point Bucchholz uses. When he pitches he’ll often have to clear out his head towards his left shoulder just to make room for his arm to come through. That’s how radically over the top he is.
That release point is what gives that change it’s action and some of it’s deception. It’s that release point gives his curve that hammer like effect.
But when you throw that over the top it can cost you in terms of command and quality on your fastball. It can really flatten out your fastball and I think that’s a lot of Buchholz’s problem at the major league level. His fastball has such little action on it and he doesn’t command it that well.
Minor leaguers are never going to hit his secondary stuff. But in the majors it’s very, very difficult to pitch in reverse off your secondary stuff without first establishing your fastball. I can see why the sox are trying to make him throw that way, fastball first.
The league adjusted to that and Buchholz hasn’t adjusted back yet.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
Eventually the flow of pitchers is going to stop – while Kontos, Betances, Garcia, etc……are out for a year or more due to TJ surgery, who is going to replace them? There will be a black hole in the organization.
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don’t fret the yankees now have halladay and washburn thanks to cashman’s superior trading acumen on july 31..
oohh..i guess not…paging sidney ponson….sidney ponson please report to the blue courtesy phone…
“Sorry to bring up the Red Sox, but it completely baffles me how Ortiz has not addressed the media yet.”
Hearig he will be talking with the media tomorrow.
Erica,
I thought I had it right. Oh well guess I will have to try again tomorrow. Thanks for hosting
I have a suggestion for “Guess the Lineup”:
at the end of the season, the person who has accurately predicted the most lineups gets their taxes done for free by Erica.
GUESS THE LINE UP STANDINGS!!!!
Here are the current standings for “Guess the Line Up”. After 11 rounds, there have been 17 different winners as follows:
Patrick the Prospect Hugger 2 Wins 7/27,7/17
Ramey 2 Wins 7/22, 7/21
Yanksfan 2 Wins 7/28, 7/29
IDCWYT 7/28
NoHype 7/28
Andrew 7/27
Bill 7/27
BBfan 7/27
Henner 7/27
Eights 7/27
RS 7/24
WTTCTOH 7/24
86w183 7/23
Miggs 7/23
Hokiehill 7/22
ePic 7/29
NYY626 8/4
Joe Girardi (no winner) 7/30, 7/31
“Sorry to bring up the Red Sox, but it completely baffles me how Ortiz has not addressed the media yet.”
I guess he’s still “getting information” (aka coming up with his excuse) from the player’s association… or maybe he’s just too surprised (despite the fact that those who tested positive were informed of the results) that he tested positive to speak.
I’m still waiting for the one player to just say, “yeah, I knew it was wrong, but I figured it would help me play better and land a big contract.” ARod wins the closest award, but his “it was a loosy-goosy time in baseball” and “I was young and stupid” comments still amount to a cop out IMO. I imagine as the names continue to trickle out players will eventually realize that coming clean is the best/quickest way to get through it.
Yankees are due for a decent game vs. Halladay. Pettitte needs to give us at least 6IP of no more than 3ER and we’ll have a chance to win.
Fran-
If it makes you feel any better 8 other people agreed with you.
And ummm- no free taxes for the winner. Just bragging rights that you know the inner mind of Joe Girardi
oh and speaking of perfect games..
has a team ever roughed up a pitcher who threw a perfect game and then got a perfect game thrown against them the very next game?
as much as i ‘d hate for it to happen – halladay IS that good…
quick question i plan on buying tickets for thurs game v.s redsox via stubhub. Should i buy them now or the day of the event.
no perfect game, I’m expecting Halladay to throw a perfect game tonight on 81 pitches. With 27 strikeouts. Yes, that’s right, 27 straight 3-pitch strikeouts. Halladay is THAT good…
Pete,
I don’t know if you remember last year when I asked you if your were offended with some people, pasting word for word your stuff on there “Yankees Blogs” or even on some web sites. I did not get a response then, I think those people should not be allowed to continue.
On any of the 3 blogs that Mike, David, and I operate we do not adverstise or charge we just write our little dumb opinions.
I think your work is so great we would all pay a monthly subscrition to read your stuff. ITS better than 99% of the sites.
We thank you for keeping it real.
Erica,
8 other people but none of them was Joe Girardi!
“Do you think that the Yanks would ever admit that given Ace that spot-start a few weeks back was a mistake?”
NEVER. They screwed up Joba last year and this year they’ve screwed up Aceves. Let’s hope they don’t try any trickery with Hughes. The time to stretch out pitchers is in spring training. You cannot go back and forth during the grind of the regular season. It just doesn’t work. Even Ramiro Mendoza had his career ended by an arm injury. Bouncing back and forth between middle relief and starting probably contributed to his arm troubles.
so andrew – he’ll have 9 perfect innings to complete his perfect game – can you get more perfect than that? – i guess the jays can bat him leadoff and halladay hits for the cycle…twice..
well then, I’m not playing (although my wife is also a CPA so I’ve got a pretty good fallback plan.)
“quick question i plan on buying tickets for thurs game v.s redsox via stubhub. Should i buy them now or the day of the event.”
day of the event. its much more cheaper than.
Joe finally observed that Swisher is impotent against pitchers that can change speeds.
“quick question i plan on buying tickets for thurs game v.s redsox via stubhub. Should i buy them now or the day of the event.”
Don’t buy from StubHub, WAY overpriced. Check eBay sellers. There are plenty of reliable sellers who will email you their tickets. I got Yanks/Blue Jays seats for next week for $20 above face value.
Erica, I’m sure Pete Abe will step up and award a prize to the winner of your game — love the effort…right, Pete?
even for a premium game like the redsox i should buy the day of.
im lookint at bout spending 90 for 4 seats. Preferrably main outfield section .
lets hope that Andy stays competitive through 6 and maybe the hitters can wear out Doc… The team is built for another run…
90 each
Joe finally observed that Swisher is impotent against pitchers that can change speeds.
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According to baseball reference Swisher is the worst against power pitches and better against finesse pitchers and average pitchers.
Jerkface, I think it’s all relative. He’s pretty bad no matter how you slice it.
Wow.
August 4th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Erica, I’m sure Pete Abe will step up and award a prize to the winner of your game — love the effort…right, Pete?
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I have never once contacted/bothered Pete over “Guess the Line Up”. It is also in no way affiliated with the LoHud paper.
Its really just my little game when i can do it.
Currently sports > .800 OPS, fine by me. .866 OPS vs finesse/average pitchers, fine by me.
Erica – always OPPC
August 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Congratulations go out to NYY626 who is today’s winner of “Guess the Line-Up”. NYY626 correctly guessed today’s line up at 3:31.
Thank you all for playing. Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”.
(I will post updated standings in a few)
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Haha no way! I literally put no thought into this today. I usually try to make up creative names in my line-up guesses.
Is is sad that this has been the highlight of my day?
Like this line-up very much. Hinske batting 9th is much better than Ransom batting last.
Hope this line-up can get 4-5 runs and help Andy get the victory!!
congrats NYY626, one more and you will be tied w/ Girardi
thanks Erica for taking time for the game
NYY626-
No, not at all. In fact, I fully understand
Congrats again
“Joe finally observed that Swisher is impotent against pitchers that can change speeds.”
I think it’s an acknowledgment that Swisher’s biggest strengths are first drawing walks and second hitting home runs.
Halladay doesn’t walk anyone and doesn’t give up home runs.
That’s why it’s a particularly bad matchup for Swisher.
And historically Swisher has been horrible against halladay – he’s hitting .143 against him with a .486 OPS.
Swisher is going to have a lot of trouble against pitchers with low walk rates.
Is it possible? Has Joe Girardi put together a lineup that is somehow above Yankee fans’ reproach?
My Submittal for the REAL STARTING LINEUP!
Manager – PETE
Bench Coach – Patrick (Makes the Lineups!)
SS – Erica – always OPPC (Flashy Leadoff hitter!)
LF – Christina25 (Well she is a sacrifice!)
1B – CB (Great Defense!)
3B – GreenBeret7 (He’s a terror when he is on his game!)
C – SJ44 (Could be hitting cleanup but all those years catching!)
DH – Ruben Sierra (A real professional hitter!)
2B – Doreen (Everyone wants to get to at least 2nd base )
CF – Wait till they come to OUR house AGAIN (Under-rated!)
RF – Giuseppe Franco (Always a new slant on things!)
INF – HokieHill (Great team player!)
OF – Nick in SF (Likes to liven things up!)
OF – Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Montero Fanaticus Primus (Been known to miss some curfews!)
UTIL – Uncle Ellsworth (Such experience!)
SP – Brandon… I’M AWESOME (Love him or hate him, he is going to get his innings in!)
Setup – The Phranchise (What can I say!)
CL – m (Short for Mo!)
Bullpen – Trumpetman, Rishi, Betsy, Pat, Jennifer, Jerkface, Ramey, Yanksfan, Fran (the original) and OPPC member
Is it possible? Has Joe Girardi put together a lineup that is somehow above Yankee fans’ reproach?
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Hairston Jr is on fire, why is he not in the lineup? Is 3 for 6 not good enough for Joe?
Zach and Hokiehill … Re: the delay in Ortiz’ reply.
It’s pretty simple. Ortiz knows what he did, but he doesn’t know what he’s accused of. Pettitte and ARod both had press conferences where they admitted to what became public (Andy – two HGH injections)(ARod – ONLY with the Rangers).
Ortiz wants to use the same strategy. He’ll admit to what the lab tests show, and claim that it is the only time he used.
Right now, he’s in a “I know what you did” predicament.
CB – not to beat a dead horse, but Bucholz definitely has to make an adjustment with his fastball. Spot it better, sink it, something. The Sox loved Lester, and they were right. I can’t believe they could be totally wrong on Bucholz.
i think i need to rededicate myself to baseball and come into camp next year with a new fire…maybe i can be the ballboy in the meantime!
Ortiz wants to use the same strategy. He’ll admit to what the lab tests show, and claim that it is the only time he used.”
Ortiz doesn’t know what he tested positive for
Really??!?!?!
Good luck to Andy and the Yankees today!
RayVT-
I promise I will do good leading off. I will never swing at the first pitch! Unless its a fastball straight down the middle… (in that case, you’ll catch me rounding the bases)
A stupid question for you guys:
Why do they call call Bucholz the Laptop thief? (I know he stole laptops, but what is the story behind it..)
Erica – always OPPC
August 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
I like your style!! LOL!
29 laptops to be precise. that’s kind of a lot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_Buchholz
young and stupid…yadda yadda yadda.
RayVt-
I’m very happy to be a member of the bullpen. In my highschool days I was quite the lefty flamethrower for my highschool team. I’ll do whatever it takes to help our team win haha
(I know he stole laptops, but what is the story behind it..)
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You know it all. Desperate to get enough money for a summer bus trip to Fenway Park to pitch in the open try outs, young Clay Buchholz stole 17 laptops from his highschool to fund the adventure. He was caught by the police and had to escape from jail, and then go on the run in a crazy bus tour of the united states that saw him meet many zany characters a long the way. He eventually made it to Fenway Park, tried out, and found true love.
Hahaha, thanks guys…..He looks like a punk…..I once bought a laptop on the street, only to realize when I got home, the inside of the sealed up box was full of best buy papers!!!
Hahaha, thanks guys…..He looks like a punk…..I once bought a laptop on the street, only to realize when I got home, the inside of the sealed up box was full of best buy papers!!!
Ramey – Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL
August 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I remembered from a while back! LOL!
Raymagnetic ….. you missed my point – Ortiz doesn’t want to admit to any more than the lab tests show. Those lab tests and his overall usage pattern may be two separate issues.
By the way, it’s my understanding that the players were just told that they failed the test. I don’t think that there was any specificity on the substances involved. Also, I think that the data is now in the hands of the Balco investigators (and, obviously, the principled lawyers involved in the case).
I always feel like the next thing I type is going to get me banned or seriously admonished.
It’s weird…am I in China?
I don’t feel Chinese.
“no perfect game, I’m expecting Halladay to throw a perfect game tonight on 81 pitches. With 27 strikeouts. Yes, that’s right, 27 straight 3-pitch strikeouts. Halladay is THAT good…”
Oh, come on, if he were THAT good, he wouldn’t need 3 pitches to strike out a batter, he’d do it with one or two at most.
He’s Sooooo over rated.
(posted by someone pretending to be Brandon- meant in good fun)
I dont think he is overrated…The good Doctor is the real thing in deed…..
maybe ortiz will go with bronson arroyo’s defense that he didn’t know the andro was laced with steroids…
that is a most excellent defense… it puts the blame on the PED makers– where it belongs!
Rayvt
Good job thanks for the opportunity to be on the team, we have a really loose clubhouse here and I’m here to do whatever skip wants me to, we’re all working toward the same goal and taking it one game at a time, not looking past the Jays, the record may not show it but they have a great team over there. I’ll just get my work in here and be ready to play when skip calls my number if it is to pinch hit, run, infield outfield i’ll be ready. I’ve wanted to play for the Lohud since I was a kid anytime you can put on the pinstripes…..
The only way Ortiz will be able to avoid the NYC media is if he skips the trip altogether.
They’ll be all over him like flies on s***.
Hairston’s not the greatest Yankee ever. That’s Eric Hinske.
This is gonna be a tough game.
Make no mistake.
The guys are gonna be bone tired from partying at Toronto’s Strip Clubs.
Baseball players rave about Toronto’s strip clubs. That where the NY Post caught ARod with that chick with who looked like a body builder.
Heaven help us.
Let’s beat Halladay tonight
I always feel like the next thing I type is going to get me banned or seriously admonished.
It’s weird…am I in China?
I don’t feel Chinese.
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Look down. Feel chinese now?
Hinkse and Hairston the H&H Bagel Bench Brothers
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Cool! LOL!
RayVT,
I cant believe i didnt make the team. Jeez, i know im short, chunky and i lack speed, but i can blow bubbles like nobody’s business. Oh well, maybe next yr, can some one put me on the mailing list so i know when tryouts are?
There is a great misconception on how Halladay got the nickname “Doc”. While in the middle of pitching a perfect game in a High School game his freshmen year, the opposing coach suffered a heart attack from a severly clogged artery. Halladay preceded to sprint off of the mound, and perform open heart surgery on the coach using nothing more than his shoe laces and cleat spikes.
He then returned to the mound to strike out 24 straight batters.
While in the middle of pitching a perfect game in a High School game his freshmen year, the opposing coach suffered a heart attack from a severly clogged artery. Halladay preceded to sprint off of the mound, and perform open heart surgery on the coach using nothing more than his shoe laces and cleat spikes.
He then returned to the mound to strike out 24 straight batters.
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Is that really ‘In the middle of’ a perfect game? Sounds more like he retired the first 3 batters then performed surgery. Hardly the middle.
IF Barry Zito is placed on waivers, do the Yankees bite?
IF Barry Zito is placed on waivers, do the Yankees bite?
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No, too much money, too long contract, too bad a player
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland
August 4th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RayVT,
I cant believe i didnt make the team. Jeez, i know im short, chunky and i lack speed, but i can blow bubbles like nobody’s business. Oh well, maybe next yr, can some one put me on the mailing list so i know when tryouts are?
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The rest of us will be in AAA ready when needed.
Just don’t label me a Ransom.
Jerkface August 4th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Look down. Feel chinese now?
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Jerk Face,
I’m sorry I left something out. Halladay’s team was actually playing a double header that day. He was in the 5th inning of a perfect game when he performed the surgery. He struck out every batter fromt that point on in that game.
He then started the second game of the double header, where he struck out every batter he faced until he was forced to leave the game due to the fact that he was also a member of the HS Football team, who was playing in the state finals that night. He went on to pass for 460 Yards and 6 Touchdowns (which he then kicked the extra points), while compiling 5 sacks.
Sorry for the confusion.
“Ortiz doesn’t know what he tested positive for Really??!?!?!”
That’s probably the truth, not sure which of the several PEDS he’s likely used he tested positive for. Most of these guys probably don’t take the same thing for years at a time…they bounce to different PEDs based on staying ahead of the testing curve and realizing that different drugs have different results. It would be a shame for him to say, “yeah, I used X drug that one time, but that was it” only to have the papers reveal that he actually tested positive for Y drug…then he will have lied twice, instead of just once.
Isn’t that the game where he struck out both the batter and the man in the on deck circle at the same time, then came in to relieve himself and got the win and the save?
isn’t halladay also the starting QB for the toronto argonauts – and doesn’t their season start tonight right across the street from the rogers centre – i guess they’ll coordinate offense and defense in the fottball game where doc will be able to QB while the blue jays are up to bat…
Come on Yanks, beat Halladay and them Jays tonight!
steve balboni-all i can think of when i read this name
is a swing and a miss(over and over and over again). how can i forget his usual .218 batting avg. classic!!!
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland
August 4th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Sorry, I hadn’t seen you in so long I thought you were on the DL!! LOL!
Bye Bye Balboni was the reason Scooter would leave the games early!
That’s a pretty good line-up. Now let’s hope Jorge calls a good game.
MaineYankee
August 4th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I’d never do that or DFA you!! Hope to see you in the MLB soon!! Keep up the great work!
Doc Holiday’s fast ball is measured on the richter scale
Manny was going to use the supplement defense apparently until they found out exactly what MLB had as far as concrete evidence on him. They actually had the prescription etc or I read an article the initial defense was going to claim he took a supplement that triggered a test which would make it look like it was a steroids related issue. He got nailed because of the extra info.
Ortiz is apparently trying to pin down the same info on what exactly they have before stating what will seem like the most feasible excuse. He’s the Big Phony by far. All teams had the issue and many players so I don’t get much satisifaction that he was found out other than the Sox fans pointing fingers to everybody else and claiming their team was clean. And the fact that Ortiz could walk away scot-free while others paid. They killed Arod for saying the Players Association said he may have failed a test. The players were told, Ortiz knows he took something, like Arod it was probably more than one thing. Could care less what he says now and eventually he will not be remembered for much. He will be a big part of those teams, but as an individual player he will be as forgetable as Mo Vaughn. And god help him if he signs onto another team, the Sox will be sure to throw him under the bus on the way out.
Rayvt, the lineup was pretty funny, thanks for that.
* Joe Girardi has handled his bullpen well over the last two seasons.*
Any manager who has Mariano as his closer is going to have a good record in the late innings, and as long as Joba or Hughes has been the 8th inning guy, any manager will look good as well.
It was during those times without Hughes or Joba that Girardi has been tested and failed.
I am going with a 4-3 win. Yankees down 3-1 into the seventh, manage to get Halladay out of the game, get some runs off of Brandon League and Jorge has a nice game, bouncing back from a rough series. That’s my hunch. Meanwhile Garza continues his dominance against the Sox which I hope does not lead to a very nice role by the Rays. Kazmir has been 100% better in his last two starts and their starting pitching with Price is coming around.
David Price has a 6.94 ERA in his last 5 starts and 23.1 IP. Not really seeing him ‘coming around’. Flashes of brilliance and all the growing pains of a guy who only has 2 pitches.
Well Price last start he went seven strong for the win, if you look at his game log if you use walks as a guage his control is getting better which is what caused him a major issue. He did get beat up by Toronto, however. I am sure we will find out a lot more about where he is currently when he faces the Sox tomorrow. I am torn whether I just want the Sox to lose or do I want to see the Rays burried and put away for dead finally as they seem to creep back in the mix.
And as far as two pitches, Wang lived off of essentially two pitches for years. And Price is a lefty. But just like Wang it seems, when he can’t locate that fastball must be fairly flat.
It’ll be interesting to hear what Ortiz has to say. I think he might surprise a few people. He seems capable of saying something that isn’t completely self-serving and exculpatory.
Look at Price’s pitch values, both his fastball and slider are negative. Guys are putting good swings on his stuff despite it being so nasty because he can’t locate. Even if he has given up less walks he still got pounded a couple of times in july and gets high pitch counts early (like Joba without the escapability he seemed to maintain).
Converse that with a guy like Hughes, this year Hughes 2 fastballs have a combined value of 7.6, and his Curve is actually negative. Guys have to sit on his curve because his fastball has been so good.
I’ve given up all hope that Omar Minaya will sign Mo Vaughn as a pinch runner.
“quick question i plan on buying tickets for thurs game v.s redsox via stubhub. Should i buy them now or the day of the event.”
“”day of the event. its much more cheaper than.”"
Wrong.
The Sox series are premium games. While prices are high right now, there are only 1700 tickets available and that game is still 2 days away. Those tix will go quickly and you’ll end up with nothing or paying through the nose for crappy seats.
You can’t play that game when you’re trying to see the Sox. Buy them now.
Phranchise- I’d rather have the Rays creeping up and the Sox losing. I think the Rays are the much more “beatable” team this year, so I’d rather have them on our tails besides Boston. Plus, it would be nice for Boston to miss the playoffs. And finally, you never know what craziness will happen in a Boston series (ie. 2004 ALCS). So, the sooner they are dead & buried, the better, because there’s no telling what could happen.
Breaking Cuban news from Jorge Arangure
BREAKING: Agent Jaime Torres confirms Cubans RHP Yadel Marti, OF Yasser Gomez, and RHP Juan Yasser Serrano have been declared free agents.
Pete…is Zack Kreonke being stretched out as a starter in SWB to be a call-up as a #5 starter…he pitched great last night, 5 innings, 1 run and has a .98 era and is
6-1…seeems like he may be better than Mitre and he is a lefty…
More from Jorge
Torres said 3 NL teams and 2 AL teams have expressed interest in signing Gomez and Marti for the stretch run this season.
I’m sick of leaking names on the 2003 list. I don’t care anymore. Alex, Ortiz, Manny, enough already. Leak the whole list and get it over with.
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Hope Andy has a big game tonight and Doc doesn’t.
Go Yankees!!!
Actually I don’t think the Sox have done enough to solidify a playoff spot. They are the Yankees of a few years ago. Two quality starters, mix and match the rest. Beckett vs Wang head to head I take Beckett, but against other teams Wang was just as dominant during the course of the season with getting wins. The biggest loss the Sox have had this year is Wakefield which is why he deserved some credit as an All Star this year. He’s a consistent innings eater for them, every 5 days he spells what could be a tired bullpen. Consistency from a 3 starter is big. They have more offense and weak starting pitching. Sound familiar? Plus Youk is a first half hitter every year, Bay is back to being the Jason Bay on the Pirates, good, but not great, Pedroia is no where close to the hitter he was last year and vTek is struggling again. Martinez is a great hitter, but he doesn’t play short or RF so he takes someone out of the lineup for less defense and VTek on defense means a ton to them. We shall see, but the Sox went for the big move in trying to get King Felix or Halladay and it failed. I am actually shocked they weren’t into a cheap gamble prospect wise for Peavy or trying to get Oswalt again although he was missing a start.
what’s with the lack of an update? wake up peteabe
“Joe Girardi has handled his bullpen well over the last two seasons. The Yankees are 110-5 when leading after six innings, 120-5 when leading after seven and 129-1 when leading after eight innings.”
Pete – how did you come up with these numbers? NO WAY ARE THEY RIGHT. 129-1 when leading after 8 innings? Only ONE loss in the last 2 seasons when leading after 8? No way. Mo has 7 losses in the last 2 years and a handful of Blown Saves. Youre telling me they all came in extra innings?
Sox are premium games on stubhub, but if you are going for the more expensive seats, the day of the game is always the best as the prices come way down hours before the game. It is also worthwhile to check constantly on ticketmaster as usually every year they randomly release seats. This might not be the case this year though as they don’t have the mini plans that held tickets back for.
Rebecca, I know you’re a huge SU hoops fan (like myself).
What do you think about the ‘Cuse getting Fab Melo?
Awesome, awesome news! Go Orange.
@mat
im pretty sure most of mo’s losses were tie games so we werent “leading”
“Pete – how did you come up with these numbers? NO WAY ARE THEY RIGHT. 129-1 when leading after 8 innings? Only ONE loss in the last 2 seasons when leading after 8? No way. Mo has 7 losses in the last 2 years and a handful of Blown Saves. Youre telling me they all came in extra innings?”
Mo has 2 blown saves. Last year at Minnesota, Yanks won in extra innings and this year at Boston, the Yanks lost. Mo’s losses are when he comes in tie games.
wow. that is shocking, very impressive
“Sox are premium games on stubhub, but if you are going for the more expensive seats, the day of the game is always the best as the prices come way down hours before the game.”
Wrong again.
Trust me, I work the Stubhub system all the time. There are only 1700 tickets left and the game is 48 hours away.
Those tickets will dwindle to nothing by Thursday and the minute # of tickets left will be even more expensive then they are now. Its simple supply demand.
In most cases with Stubhub, you wait as long as you can. Wait until Thursday to get tickets to the Thrusday Sox game and you may not even be able to go. If you do, its going to be in a crappy seat for a disgusting price.
These rules only apply to opening day, old timers day, mets, and red sox.
one hour left till “LET THE COMPLAINING BEGIN TIME”
Jerkface, that’s a good point. I am a huge Hughes fan obviously and the difference has been the fastball, two seam and four seam. The cutter also keeps them honest of the fastballs as that tails out while his fastballs at the speed rise. The other difference is the adjustments he made on the curve, tightening it up and burrying it down more. Less hangers and less of the 12-6 big loop.
Price may need to adjust the same way and come up with another pitch as well. Hitters will sit on the fastball though if it’s staright. Beckett’s bad games are always when his other pitches he can’t locate. I’ve read many times Beckett’s fastball is fast, but not a ton of movement. When he has to throw that over and over that’s usually when he gets pounded.
Both Price and Hughes have some deception on delivery. Hughes the hitters seem to have a delay seeing the ball released out of his hand and Price’s delivery is just free and easy similar to CCs.
Anyway, you make some excellent points.
Miggs, ok, I have waited for most premium games just to see how cheap you can land the Legends seats or others in that range if you are spending money, but will agree to disagree there. Most seat locations won’t change much for sure. You can always just get the $900 seats on Ticketmaster if you want those haha. I would recommend double checking ticketmaster anyway in the mornings as well as sometimes they hold back seats.
Hey, guys.
Some interesting talk about the health of Yankees pitching.
Two things.
First, did anyone bother to do an accounting of every team in the league? I think you’d find that pitchers on the DL is rather commonplace.
Second, not all those injuries are the fault of the organization. Pitchers are injury-prone by nature. Ian Kennedy’s aneuryism was a freak thing. Wang’s initial injury was a bad turn at third base. His subsequent shoulder injury could be reaggravation of previous shoulder problems.
Yes, there’s concerns (as randy l is apt to remind us), but I don’t think the Yankees are necessarily negligent in the treatment of their pitchers.
And we’ve been quite lucky (knock on wood) that the other 4 starters have stayed relatively healthy.
Wish we had the short RF porch tonight, Halladay didn’t particularily like it when he was in NY
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html
Makes sense for the yanks to get in on these guys, no? I don’t know much about them, but apparently they’re pretty good.
“wow. that is shocking, very impressive”
Across the baseball, a team that is leading by 1-3 runs in the 9th inning wins 94% of the time.
Regardless of who the closer is – teams win 94% of the time in save situations.
Yadel Marti is a ML ready starting pitcher! Hopefully, Cash gets this one!
Breaking Cuban news from Jorge Arangure
BREAKING: Agent Jaime Torres confirms Cubans RHP Yadel Marti, OF Yasser Gomez, and RHP Juan Yasser Serrano have been declared free agents.
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Will either Marti or Yasser be able to take Mitre’s start tomorrow?
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Yes, I am only joking!!!
Yankees minor leagues though this year killed with injuries. I am sure they have to have had more than most clubs for their top prospects. Montero, Kennedy, Horne, Humberto Snachez, Cox, Brett Marshall, Betcances, Brackman (although not sure if he is hurt so don’t quote me at the moment), Kontos, think Banuelos is hurt now and I am sure I am missing a few others.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
I wonder what mechanical tweeks CC incorporated…….
Marti, 29, is hailed as one of Cuba’s best pitchers. The righty was their ace in the 2006 World Baseball Classic, throwing 12.2 scoreless innings. Gomez, 28, is a speedy outfielder and career .331 hitter in Cuba. He hit .397 over a 66-game span in Cuba’s 2008 national series tournament.
per http://mlb-rumors.blogs.cbsspo.....el%20Marti
I don’t think the Yanks will be all that involved on these guys (if they are even worth being involved in) as Hal is not going to spend the $$$$$.
I like that lineup. Let’s do this tonight Yankees. Beat Halladay
When Doc Holiday is cut, he bleeds magma.
Yankees get Marti and sign El Duque for long relief and as a mentor…….. probably not happening. Oh well. Don’t know anything about these guys, but I do know that outside of El Duque yankees haven’t been great with Cuban signs. Contreras I guess at least was a major league pitcher. Adrian Hernandez ugh.
Yankees minor leagues though this year killed with injuries. I am sure they have to have had more than most clubs for their top prospects. Montero, Kennedy, Horne, Humberto Snachez, Cox, Brett Marshall, Betcances, Brackman (although not sure if he is hurt so don’t quote me at the moment), Kontos, think Banuelos is hurt now and I am sure I am missing a few others.
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I’ll add Christian Garcia to the list…he is currently available for double jeopardy…his second Tommy John surgery.
On the bright side, a lot of surgeons are making big money off the Yankees…that ought to help the economy some.
gayle August 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Breaking Cuban news from Jorge Arangure
BREAKING: Agent Jaime Torres confirms Cubans RHP Yadel Marti, OF Yasser Gomez, and RHP Juan Yasser Serrano have been declared free agents.
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Interesting. Oh Cashman
Marti, 29, is hailed as one of Cuba’s best pitchers. The righty was their ace in the 2006 World Baseball Classic, throwing 12.2 scoreless innings. Gomez, 28, is a speedy outfielder and career .331 hitter in Cuba. He hit .397 over a 66-game span in Cuba’s 2008 national series tournament.
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Does anyone know what happened to left hand pitcher (and Cuban defect) Noel Arguelles? There was a rumor that the Yankees were the leaders for signing him until Chapman defected.
From the Previous Post: (I’m catching up here)
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Oh and he had a Chinese menu in his hand and his hair was perfect – Darryl that is.
Hmm…you sure you weren’t thinking about that werewolf drinking a pina colada down at Trader Vic’s??…GREAT Warren Zevon reference!!
Y.K.W. – Why the sad face?
“I’ll add Christian Garcia to the list…he is currently available for double jeopardy…his second Tommy John surgery.”
Garcia is not having a second TJ surgery.
He is having bone chips removed from his elbow. He might also have some scar tissue in there that is impinging on a nerve.
This is analagous to what happened to AJ Burnett in 2007 – complications from the TJ surgery that required another surgery.
“I’ll add Christian Garcia to the list…he is currently available for double jeopardy…his second Tommy John surgery.”
Garcia is not having a second TJ surgery.
He is having bone chips removed from his elbow. He might also have some scar tissue in there that is impinging on a nerve.
This is analagous to what happened to AJ Burnett in 2007 – complications from the TJ surgery that required another surgery.
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Thanks for the info…I guess I had some bad info. What is the expected recovery time from this second surgery? Is it less than the 12-18 months expected for TJ surgery?
“Is it less than the 12-18 months expected for TJ surgery?”
It’s a much simpler procedure.
He’ll in theory be ready for spring training I believe.
But with Garcia it’s hard to know when the next injury will transpire.
“Is it less than the 12-18 months expected for TJ surgery?”
It’s a much simpler procedure.
He’ll in theory be ready for spring training I believe.
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Thx for the info, CB.
Today is the anniversary of Robin Ventura getting pummeled by Nolan Ryan. One of the all time great MLB fights.
This is so off topic and I apologize, but I need to leave in 10 minutes for a wake. I haven’t been to very many Catholic wakes. Is it completely inappropriate to wear a nice pair of sandals??
TheCro
August 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
From the Previous Post: (I’m catching up here)
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Oh and he had a Chinese menu in his hand and his hair was perfect – Darryl that is.
Hmm…you sure you weren’t thinking about that werewolf drinking a pina colada down at Trader Vic’s??…GREAT Warren Zevon reference!!
its not everyday you see the Strawman hanging on the street so I am sure it was a Chinese menu in his hands and perfect hair. I said Darryl toward him a little quietly and when he turned I said “you da man” and immediatly regretted it.
Erica – always OPPC
August 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
This is so off topic and I apologize, but I need to leave in 10 minutes for a wake. I haven’t been to very many Catholic wakes. Is it completely inappropriate to wear a nice pair of sandals??
I think you are ok with nice sandals I’d stay away from flipflops. Sorry about the wake.
I’d like to meet his tailor…
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12021829
TAMPA, Fla. — New York Yankees right-hander Ian Kennedy, still recovering from an aneurysm this year, threw 25 pitches off a mini-mound Tuesday and hopes to play in minor league games before the season ends.
Kennedy had surgery May 12 to remove the aneurysm from beneath his right biceps. He will have another session Friday on a mound half the usual 10-inch height.
“Another hurdle cleared,” Kennedy said. “I felt really good. I’m happy with that. I’m happy with the progress. I’m still on schedule and haven’t had any problems yet. ”
The 24-year-old Kennedy was pitching for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre this season when he experienced numbness in his pitching hand.
“I saw the doctor last week, and he’s real happy with all my tests and the results,” Kennedy said. “It’s been going really well.”
Kennedy plans to pitch in the Puerto Rico winter league. He went 0-4 with a 8.17 ERA for the Yankees last year.
His surgery was performed by Dr. George Todd, who operated on former Yankees pitcher and current team broadcaster David Cone’s aneurysm in 1996.
Erica – always OPPC August 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
This is so off topic and I apologize, but I need to leave in 10 minutes for a wake. I haven’t been to very many Catholic wakes. Is it completely inappropriate to wear a nice pair of sandals??
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I think nice sandals should be okay.
CB or SJ. Jason Hirsh is scheduled to pitch on Thursday, and it will be his second start for Scranton, and Kroenke is scheduled for Saturday. If Mitre fails again, do you think one of them will get the next start in NY, and which one and why?
I’m so tired of Joba’s innings limit “talk”.
Good luck and Godspeed, IPK.
How are the twins GB7? Are they both home already?
Thanks for the input- I went with long pants and flats.
I am also now way behind schedule do my wardrobe indecision.
Anyway, enjoy the game and hopefully I’ll be home in time for the end.
Let’s go Yankees!
GB7,
The first and foremost issue with both Hirsch and Kroenke is that both have spent most of the season in the pen. Neither is stretched out.
Kroenke threw around 63 pitches yesterday. I don’t know what they’ll let him do next game. But I don’t think he’ll be able to go much past 80 if even that – and 80 would be pushing it.
Hirsch also needs to be stretched out. He’s behind Kroenke in terms of arm strength I believe.
If Mitre really bombs and they want someone from AAA, I think it’ll be Towers unfortunately.
Good news on Ian -hopefully he can help us next year (he might have been able to help us this year).
7 innings for “Serg”?
Sure, if he makes two or three more starts he may get to 7 innings, combined.
VT, Joe and Evan mentioned that fight on WFAN today. Apparently Ventura once said that as he started out to the mound (he was a rookie, I think) he already realized he was making a huge mistake, lol – he was thinking to himself that ” what am I doing, this is Nolan Ryan”….lol
I can still picture Ryan with his arm around Ventura’s head, just pounding him……ouch.
S. A., they’re doing just great. I talked to my granddaughter and they are letting her take both kids home on Sunday. She was worried that Sidney was being left behind. I asked her about Sid’s weight and the docs said that she’ll always be small like her mother, but that she’s actually more healthy than Anthony (a bit of a breathing problem that being controlled). Everybody is thrilled, except me. I’m going to be babysitting in less than a month and I’m skeert. You know that one of those kids will make sure that I get to change a diaper.
GB, Sid’s coming home on Sunday? That’s great news…
Erica – always OPPC
August 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
This is so off topic and I apologize, but I need to leave in 10 minutes for a wake. I haven’t been to very many Catholic wakes. Is it completely inappropriate to wear a nice pair of sandals??
Only if you have sexy feet. The worse is when women wear hot shoes but have horrible feet.
CB, I can see going a few more starts with Kroenke, but, Hirsh has 106 innings in as a starter this year in Colorado Springs. It should be an interesting choice, none the less.
GreenBeret7-
That is great news! (about the babies)
Hey, anyone think Joe Girardi looks a little blue? I know they came off a tough series against the White Sox, but Girardi just doesn’t look “right” to me. Guess I’m a little crazy.
RayVt-
that lineup. Hmmmm..
You guys hear about those cubans that defected in Decemeber? A dominating pitcher and power outfielder…i say the yankees pull a red sox aquisation and sign both of them so they have friends from their own country on the team (i.e. dice-k and okajima) just this time, we know we’re getting two great players, unlike the red sox, who got okajima just as a friend for dice k lol.
other question that just popped into my head.
Anything about Bob Sheppard? is he getting better? is he coming back? any news?
Betsy
August 4th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
GB, Sid’s coming home on Sunday? That’s great news…
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Thanks, Betsy. We’re all excited. There is that last little bit though. I’m scouring the phone book and internet, looking for a company called, “We-Change-Dirty-Diapers-R-Us”. No luck, yet.
Thank you, Doreen. That’s very kind to say.
GreenBeret7 August 4th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
S. A., they’re doing just great. I talked to my granddaughter and they are letting her take both kids home on Sunday. She was worried that Sidney was being left behind. I asked her about Sid’s weight and the docs said that she’ll always be small like her mother, but that she’s actually more healthy than Anthony (a bit of a breathing problem that being controlled). Everybody is thrilled, except me. I’m going to be babysitting in less than a month and I’m skeert. You know that one of those kids will make sure that I get to change a diaper.
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That is fantastic news GB7!
Don’t worry, just get a nice Hazmat suit and you should be good to go. I’m sure those babies will be leaving many presents for you in their diapers.
But seriously, great news that they are both coming home on Sunday.
Doreen
August 4th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
LOL! I could never leave you out!! LOL!
S.A.–Serenity Now
August 4th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
GreenBeret7 August 4th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
S. A., they’re doing just great. I talked to my granddaughter and they are letting her take both kids home on Sunday. She was worried that Sidney was being left behind. I asked her about Sid’s weight and the docs said that she’ll always be small like her mother, but that she’s actually more healthy than Anthony (a bit of a breathing problem that being controlled). Everybody is thrilled, except me. I’m going to be babysitting in less than a month and I’m skeert. You know that one of those kids will make sure that I get to change a diaper.
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That is fantastic news GB7!
Don’t worry, just get a nice Hazmat suit and you should be good to go. I’m sure those babies will be leaving many presents for you in their diapers.
But seriously, great news that they are both coming home on Sunday.
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Yeah…I may need to rewatch “Mr. Mom” again and get some pointers from Michael Keaton.
Seriously, there’s no downside in forfeiting this game.
GB – you’ve been around the block – treat those diapers like a dangerous hitter – throw em low and outside.
So I think I’ve learned the hard way that throwing too many pitches on consecutive days can be painful.
I can barely move my arm haha
GB7
Just get some real good air freshener.
GB7,
Congrats on the twins doing so well! And good luck with the baby sitting.
On Hirsch – I may be completely misremembering this but I thought I’d read a quote from him after the trade where he said he’d been in the bull pen and would have to build up his arm strength again. But looking at his workload that makes no sense. Don’t know where I got that from now.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
August 4th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
GB – you’ve been around the block – treat those diapers like a dangerous hitter – throw em low and outside.
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LMAO. Yeah, hopefully, this will be one time that I’m hoping that the wind is blowing out.
I think Hirsch is the next guy after Mitre. From the sounds of it, Hirsch probably pitched 3 innings every inning at the Colorado AAA home games. He had an almost 8.00 ERA at home, but very decent away from that high altitude launching pad. 6′-8″ fastball, sinker pitcher & former 1st round pick by Astros, I think he’d do ok!
I am sorry to report that I will refuse to watch/follow the game.
I already have the Yankees record marked at 63-43.
Can we please score some runs today? Pettitte deserves
some run support for goodness sakes!
Go Yanks
Some people here are getting a little too overwhelmed by the 2nd to last place team in our division…
CB
August 4th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
GB7,
Congrats on the twins doing so well! And good luck with the baby sitting.
On Hirsch – I may be completely misremembering this but I thought I’d read a quote from him after the trade where he said he’d been in the bull pen and would have to build up his arm strength again. But looking at his workload that makes no sense. Don’t know where I got that from now.
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Thanks for the kind words, CB. Maybe Hirsh was talking about being in the bullpen for four games and that’s where his last games were. He looked really solid in his 5 innings on the 1st.
Thanks, Maine. I’ll look for industrial strength Glade.
GB7
Here’s an article from Chad Jennings about Towers that might shed some light on your question about the 5th starter.http://community.thetimes-trib.....notes.aspx
GB7,
That makes sense on Hirsch. That was probably it. But obviously that short stint won’t be a big deal in term of arm strength.
Let us know when both the twins are home. How’s your grand daughter doing?
Lets go Yankees!
Yeah…I may need to rewatch “Mr. Mom” again and get some pointers from Michael Keaton.
Check out “Uncle Buck” some good tips there.
where are the fake umps lol
Ted Barrett-sized strike zone right there.
Tex looked pissed but that looked like a great strikeout pitch to me.
Alex baby!!
Alex!!!! Woohoo!
arod!!! we are beating halladay!!!
Nice hustle Johnny!!!!!
Yes!!!!! Arod drives in the run! Get start against Doc!
How unclutch. Stat padding double by Alex off the games best pitcher.
Very good base running by Damon. You could tell he knew that he needed to get home with Doc on the mound.
Too close to call.
GO YANKS!!!
GO RAYS!!!
Well I guess I’m a little late saying I feel good about tonight’s game – but I do.
doc’s not looking so scary now, is he
Great hustle Alex!!
Nice hitting by A-rod. And good hustle by Damon.
yikes, Arod looked out at 2nd.
I’m stuck watching the Canadian feed – not sure if YES had a different angle.
nice!
Clutch base running!
uh oh, looks like Arod is hurt. hap?
hip? I meant.
Well half way hustle lol
2 runs for Pettitte, he must be on cloud 9!!
Im liking this game
Yes!!!
All that trade nonsense has made Doc shaky.
CB
August 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
GB7,
That makes sense on Hirsch. That was probably it. But obviously that short stint won’t be a big deal in term of arm strength.
Let us know when both the twins are home. How’s your grand daughter doing?
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Thanks for the answer, CB. Morgan is doing great, and, I’ll keep all of you “God-parents” advised.
Hehe Alex always does what it takes to get home. Two runs are huge against Halladay.
Very nice start to the game
Again, Alex tries going home there to force the issue with Doc on the mound.
Make them make a play at the plate. Great slide kicking the ball out of the glove.
And again – a lot of hustle by Alex to put himself into position to score that run.
Great on the twins GB! Am so happy to hear it.
Looks like Barajas fell on his arm
Millar gets the error. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
i thought the error was on Halladay?
woo
Strange night north of the border. How does Millar get that error and not Doc?
Gotta love the Yanks attack attitude.
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Yeah…I may need to rewatch “Mr. Mom” again and get some pointers from Michael Keaton.
Check out “Uncle Buck” some good tips there.
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I’ve never seen “Uncle Buck”, but, all instructions and tips have value. I’ll get that movie, too.
“All that trade nonsense has made Doc shaky.”
I actually have to wonder if it affected his psyche at all, in the short run. I know Doc is a consummate professional and if did have any affect I’m sure he will shake it off. But it can’t feel so great to know your team was putting you out there. And then you don’t go anywhere when all is said and done and worse, the team that put you out there really doesn’t have too much of a chance of going anywhere this season. That scenario could take a little wind out of your sails I would think.
“Strange night north of the border. How does Millar get that error and not Doc?”
The official scorer felt that after what JP put Doc through, he’d cut him a break.
Lets go andy..you need a win.
The run scoring doesn’t have to be pretty especially against Halladay.
Outside of the 2 runs they scored they got Doc to throw 23 pitches that inning.
That is very good news.
Bronx Brorn
August 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Great on the twins GB! Am so happy to hear it.
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Thank you for the kinds words and thoughts, Bronx. It’s much appreciated. If you are so inclined, pray for me when it’s time to babysit.
No Scott Rolen will be nice. He was killing the Yanks this year.
“UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.:
The error was given to Millar, which I’m not sure I understand. The ball was in Halladay’s glove. Nonetheless, Yankees 2-0.”
Pete and I are thinking in tandem…I’m afraid.
If I make an Arod dig tonight, it’s not my fault.
A sense of urgency this evening
One big break is that the Yanks don’t have to face scott Rolen anymore.
Posada off to a great start.
Not for nothing, how many balls have gotten pass posada this year?
Are we still in the 7th inning in Chicago? WTH?
come on jorge you gotta catch those…millar better not get a single now
Finish him Andy
Andy’s got to hold them here. Can’t let them score right after the offense gets some runs across.
yeesh – get the out here
who else saw jorge throwing that ball in rf…lol wouldnt that be ironic
14 pitch inning for Andy
that’s not a small crowd at all Pete
Ah. Butterfingers behind the plate. Let’s hope it’s not the vacant tornado at the plate!
Andy looked very good that inning. Just like the last two games he’s got that good cutter back again.
He’s a completely different pitcher with that pitch, especially to right handed hitters.
5 PB’s for Jorge this year, it’s not something that happens every day or week.
I’m amazed Matt hasn’t posted how ‘unacceptable’ Jorge is tonight, it’s just a matter of time…
Nice job by Andy, he’s continuing the excellent pitching since the ASB.
A solid inning by Pettitte. His cutter is really diving tonight. He’s going to be a handful to catch with his pitches moving like that.
Nice to watch Crawford steal his 50th base of the season.
“UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.:
The error was given to Millar, which I’m not sure I understand. The ball was in Halladay’s glove. Nonetheless, Yankees 2-0.”
The Toronto official scorer only assigns errors to mere mortals.
Halladay’s won like one game in the last two months. He’s been pitching fine for the most part despite all the distractions, but like Pettitte he’s hit a run support drought.
Pound HALLADY!!!
Nobody on base, Robbie gets a hit. Who knew?
CB, Andy had to be bothered by his back problems during the 1st half, his cutter is definitely back and locating the ball so much better in his last 4 starts. There were starts toward the end of the 1st half where all he thre were fast balls and changes (and his change isn’t very good, it never has been).
And his 51st. Lord he is incredible!
We need to trade for Carl Crawford at the end of the year.
Halladay doesn’t look sharp early so time to strike now. He might settle down so let’s go offense!
“He’s going to be a handful to catch with his pitches moving like that.”
On that passed ball posada was set up on the very outside corner. That pitch was meant to be a back door cutter.
Instead Andy missed his spot by 3 feet and the ball cut all the way to the inside part of the plate.
Lot’s of movement on the ball. That’s a good sign.
Benny Blanco
August 4th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Pound HALLADY!!!
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Scratch that!
Thats really great news, GB.
holy cow that was efficient
MG,
Right now he looks like he did in 2007 when he came back and was terrific.
Thank goodness. If Joba and Andy hadn’t turned things around after the all star break things would have been ugly with mitre in the rotation.
“We need to trade for Carl Crawford at the end of the year.”
That might be doable. I was reading where TB has to decide what to do about Crawford because they have other players that they are going to have to pay. Their pockets don’t runneth over like ours does.
Andy is looking good so far post-ASB.
CB
August 4th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
“He’s going to be a handful to catch with his pitches moving like that.”
On that passed ball posada was set up on the very outside corner. That pitch was meant to be a back door cutter.
Instead Andy missed his spot by 3 feet and the ball cut all the way to the inside part of the plate.
Lot’s of movement on the ball. That’s a good sign.
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He needs to remember what Rios did to a cutter that didn’t cut deep enough. Rios and Wells are the keys to Pettitte winning tonight.
Now watch me jinx him. Ack.
GB, I didn’t read the posts above, but by the looks of it, you gave birth to twins? How is that possible? Aren’t you an old, cranky man?
Thank you for the kind words, Trish, Most appreciative.
Strikeout #2 for Andy
Love to see Crawford in LF (2011?), but 2 little problems with trading for him:
1. TB won’t trade him w/in the division unless they absolutely had no choice
2. You think WASHBURN cost a ton????
Pettitte’s got the good stuff tonight.
Wells hearing it from the crowd. It’s going to be a very long 6 years for him.
Laura – Release the list!!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
GB, I didn’t read the posts above, but by the looks of it, you gave birth to twins? How is that possible? Aren’t you an old, cranky man?
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Laura, I may as well have been in labor. I certainly suffered more and didn’t get a single flower for my pain.
LOL Laura.
GB is my favorite cranky old man on here.
“Aren’t you an old, cranky man?”
“Grumpy old fart” is the acccepted nomenclature
Andy is looking good tonight! 3 Ks in a row.
easy peasy
27 pitches in 2 innings. Just what Dr. Pettitte ordered.
“Laura, I may as well have been in labor. I certainly suffered more and didn’t get a single flower for my pain.”
Save me the trouble of searching to find out. Did your daughter give birth to twins? If so, Congrats! And thank your daughter for me for continuing to populate the world with more Yankee fans.
CB, you’re right, this is vintage Andy. That cutter for the K on Rios was really, really nasty.
Add a solid Andy to the rotation with CC, AJ and Joba and that’s a tough staff to beat in a playoff series with Andy’s track record in the post season.
28 pitches for Andy. Keep up the good work Pettitte
and the big head just hit a HR
“GB is my favorite cranky old man on here.”
Really, Angel? I thought the race was neck and neck between him and Matt.
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
“Aren’t you an old, cranky man?”
“Grumpy old fart” is the acccepted nomenclature
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LMAO. Like you aren’t Noah.
I think Halladay thought he was being traded to the Yankees and that’s why he shaved his “beard” off. lol.
Nice to see the Yankees taking it up a notch after the way they were playing in Chicago. I wonder if they were taking advantage of the Chicago party scene.
“and the big head just hit a HR”
He must have had one of his special shakes this morning.
Congrats GB7
Time to outfit them with their official NYY “onesies”
What’s really great, I think, is that Crawford loves playing for the Rays and always has. He made his desire to remain there known well before the Rays were making any kind of splash. He’s not all blown away by the thought of playing for other teams. Add to it now that his team has made it to the world series, probably even more loaylty than ever for him.
That doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with where he may end up but I love seeing that kind of dedication to the game and the team. It’s not necessarily typical these days, especially with teams who don’t do well.
LOL Laura – GB isn’t in denial about his grumpy old man status – he owns it, thats why he’s my favorite.
Matt, not so much. He’s just being “realistic”
Halladay locates the ball so well, it’s like watching a pitching clinic even though the Yankees have 2 runs.
“That cutter for the K on Rios was really, really nasty.”
Earlier this season to righties – it was all change ups away.
He couldn’t get anything inside on righties. He was pitching scared looking to avoid coming into their wheelhouse.
This umpire gives andy that outside corner to righties tonight on the backdoor cutter and he keeps getting that cutter buried in on the hands inside – he’s going to be very tough.
Are you going to corrupt them into Yankee fandom, GB?
I can’t stand Kevin youkilis.
“Add to it now that his team has made it to the world series, probably even more loaylty than ever for him.”
Good point. However, Crawford is probably going to want to get paid just like the rest of these guys. It will be interesting to see if he gives them a hometown discount.
Laura – Release the list!!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
“Laura, I may as well have been in labor. I certainly suffered more and didn’t get a single flower for my pain.”
Save me the trouble of searching to find out. Did your daughter give birth to twins? If so, Congrats! And thank your daughter for me for continuing to populate the world with more Yankee fans.
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Ye, Laura, my granddaughter Morgan, had twins about 2 weeks ago. A girl (Sidney Lynn and a boy, Anthony Michael).
Halladay:
“That’s all they’ll get!”
the rumors of Pettitte’s being washed up were grossly exaggerated, he’ll be winning lots of games down the stretch if he gets some runs and stays healthy.
Trumpetman
August 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I can’t stand Kevin youkilis.
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i agree completely – the red sox fan cousins understand, too – he just comes off “yucky” (for lack of a better word)
Nice job Tex
Nice Tex. Alex, bring him home.
Jon
August 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Halladay:
“That’s all they’ll get!”
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I was thinking the same thing after that inning
“GB, I didn’t read the posts above, but by the looks of it, you gave birth to twins? How is that possible? Aren’t you an old, cranky man? ”
GB is just using those kids as a prop. Once he picks up an hourglass and a scythe he’ll make a mint come New Year’s Eve.
“Ye, Laura, my granddaughter Morgan, had twins about 2 weeks ago. A girl (Sidney Lynn and a boy, Anthony Michael).”
Your granddaughter? Man, you’re older than I thought! LOL!
Congrats!
Andy deserved to win in Chicago — stupid wet grass.
If he stays healthy, I’m liking our pitching down the stretch – even if it means a weekly tryout for a #5
GB7 I hope your granddaughter has YES. Gotta get the twins started early. Might as well horrify them when they are young with the sound of Michael Kay’s voice. That way when they are older, they will be numb to it.
Alex nice hard hit ball
Alex = 2-2. He’s starting to heat up.
Very nice piece of hitting by Tex. At times he gets too pull conscious.
There he didn’t try to do too much. Insides out a ball on the inner part of the plate and takes it the other way.
Halladay keeps the ball off the sweet part of the bat with that late movement. Tough to pull.
Just for the record, and apropos of nothing, John Flaherty is one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met.
If CC, AJ, Andy, and Joba stay healthy and keep pitching pretty well the #5 starter almost doesn’t matter-they can slot the top 4 into each Sox and Rays series, those are the games that really count. The #5 starter only has 7-8 starts left in the season anyway.
GB7 – Am I getting this right – you’re a great-grandfather? Mucho congrats!!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Are you going to corrupt them into Yankee fandom, GB?
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Oh, it’s going to be a big fight down here in Georgia, but, I’ll win out. I was disappointed that Sidney preferred her bottle over the infielder’s glove, though. I’ll have to break her of that habit. No Yankee infielder of mine is going to be carrying a baby bottle on to the field, if I have anything to say.
damn you wells!!
Damn. Too bad that was an out.
Dammit, that ball was out. Where’s the jet stream? Show yourself I say.
Holy crap GB7 a great-grandpa?
Man you really are old – I don’t feel so bad now
damn you sterling
I never really thought about it until this year, but Halladay just amazes me….Maybe I never thought about him until AJ kept talking him up, but I never realized what a great pitcher Doc is and what a great person as well. He’s a very easy guy to root for even though he’s made a habit of beating the Yankees’ brains in. I feel a bit sorry for him that he had to go through all the trade stuff, only to end up staying in Toronto, but I think he honestly loves it there. I almost hope he stays – he’s one of those guys who should remain with one team his entire career. I guess that’s not possible, though.
Wells looked like he hurt himself making that catch.
Meanwhile, Doc is hittable tonight.
S.A.–Serenity Now
August 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
GB7 I hope your granddaughter has YES. Gotta get the twins started early. Might as well horrify them when they are young with the sound of Michael Kay’s voice. That way when they are older, they will be numb to it.
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Maybe that’s why they cry all of the time. I’ll teach them about the “MUTE” button.
46 pitches for Doc
“Dammit, that ball was out. Where’s the jet stream? Show yourself I say.”
The roof is closed.
“damn you sterling”
lol. “What just happened there, Suzyn?”
if this game was at yankee stadium…we might be talking 5-0?
Joe from Long Island
August 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
GB7 – Am I getting this right – you’re a great-grandfather? Mucho congrats!!
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Thanks for the words, Joe. Much appreciated.
That was hot Jetes
The Captain strikes again!
Andy looks pumped tonight, very emotional.
L to the 2nd
August 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Holy crap GB7 a great-grandpa?
Man you really are old – I don’t feel so bad now
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Yeah, but, for once, i’m happy to be 60 years old.
“Halladay locates the ball so well, it’s like watching a pitching clinic even though the Yankees have 2 runs.”
What makes him so amazing is that he not only locates but that he locates while also having absurd amounts of movement on the ball.
Nothing is ever straight. The combination of that cutter boring away from right handers and the two seamer running away from left handers is just amazing.
And his curve ball is one of the best in the game. It is one of the 5 hardest single pitches to make contact on in the entire game.
I don’t know how a guy can have that much movement and still pound the zone.
He’s walking like 1.3/9.
What is with ML pitchers being afraid of the #9 guy? He’s batting ninth because he stinks!!!
walking the #9? doesn’t that always lead to bad stuff?
Tough walking the # 9 hitter, but Bautista had decent numbers off of Andy.
take that.
A-Rod with the cannon
Wow, a hot shot.
Great play!
Our defense is back?!?!?!?
nice play-rod
This is not the team that played in Chicago. This is the New York Yankees. The Bad News Bears must be stuck at O’Hare.
GreenBeret7 August 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Maybe that’s why they cry all of the time. I’ll teach them about the “MUTE” button.
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You are a good great-granddaddy.
Halladay is one of those pitchers where pitch counts mean absolutely nothing…
With Andy pitching so well tonight, though, this game is very, very winnable.
Rishi,
Nope. That’s an old Pettitte trick to keep his pitch count down.
Pettitte at 39 pitches through 3 innings. Very nice. Giving the pen a rest before Mitre throws tomorrow and before the boston series would be very nice.
I am SOOOO sick of Jon Lester. Of course I hardly expect the score at the Trop to end up 1-0.
trisha, unfortunately, as much as you are sick about Lester, he’s going to be around for a long time. And considering his health issues a couple of years ago I think that’s a great thing…
And it only took the TOR announcers 51 mins to mention the new YS being a bandbox. I think that’s a record. Usually, it’s 10 mins into the game.
Why is Posada getting a lot of first pitch outs?
m – ah – gotcha! I should have known that
“Why is Posada getting a lot of first pitch outs?”
cause he is swinging at first pitches and not getting hits?…sorry but its true lol
Laura, I think the Jays announcers are the least obnoxious ones of all the other teams, I’m actually enjoying listening to them.
RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
“Why is Posada getting a lot of first pitch outs?”
cause he is swinging at first pitches and not getting hits?…sorry but its true lol
haha
Oh, boy.
Did Doc yell, “That’s all they get!”?
Is Mitre really the only option right now for the Yanks? What about Nova or Towers or even Johnson down in AAA? Even a low level trade has to produce better options that Mitre…
trisha – OPPC lifetime member who says she doesn’t trust you but she does trust the Yankees!
I am tired of Jon Lester as well. But I’m sure the Rays will score some runs.
I have no objections to Lester hanging around for a very long time. I want him to get the crap knocked out of him on the field however and will continue to hope for that every time he takes the mound, bar none.
Andy’s left a couple of cutter up to the last 4 batters, he needs to get it back down more.
trisha, it’s OK for him to lose most of the time, I just want him to stay healthy so he can lol
“Laura, I think the Jays announcers are the least obnoxious ones of all the other teams, I’m actually enjoying listening to them.”
I agree – they aren’t as bad as some of the others. But after those baffoons here in Chicago, anything is an improvement.
“I am tired of Jon Lester as well. But I’m sure the Rays will score some runs.”
Absolutely. If Crawford can get on with less than two outs he’ll probably come all the way home on his own power. Man I’d love to see him steal home!
“Why is Posada getting a lot of first pitch outs?”
Because the game plan against halladay is to try to be aggressive early in the count.
He doesn’t walk anyone. He’s almost always ahead in the count.
And the deeper you wait in the count the more difficult it gets to make good contact.
Hitters are swinging and missing on his curve ball – his third pitch – around 40% of the time. That’s one of the highest rates of any pitch in baseball.
You don’t want to fall behind against Halladay. And pitch one is most likely going to be a strike.
I know everyone is down on Mitre, but of all the guys named Sergio in the Major Leagues the Yanks have the best one.
strikeout #4 for Andy
“I know everyone is down on Mitre, but of all the guys named Sergio in the Major Leagues the Yanks have the best one.”
For the record, I am not down on Mitre. I don’t think his first two outings were bad at all, by the way.
“I know everyone is down on Mitre, but of all the guys named Sergio in the Major Leagues the Yanks have the best one.”
LOL! Is that supposed to make us feel better?
kevin millar, yankee killer?
Well what are the Jays announcers going to talk about, how the team their covering sucks. They aren’t going to say anything good about the yankees, so they are going to mention NYS.
LOL GB, She still has time to embrace her glove, don’t worry. Is the competition going to be Braves fandom?
The beginning of the end?
A double play would do nicely just here.
Maybe the Jays announcers can talk about the juiced-up moss that’s overtaking Old Yankee Stadium.
Andy Pettitte, Andy Pettitte killer?
come on andy…think of who your up against!..get that dp
Strikes, Andy!
Just as an aside, interesting that the press isn’t all over Ortiz like a cheap suit. I guess he’s still “investigating” and will make his next statement when and if he feels like it.
However, I am looking forward to sweetness and light from the Bronx once the Suxers get here. Isn’t… that the same guy who said he deserved to be MVP over Jeter? Why hes it is.
Oh yeah, not to jinx life but I have meant to mention that I will feel really good about Andy’s outing once we get past the 5th inning…
This time through the line up the right handed hitters are laying off that cutter diving down and in to them.
This lead will soon be gone.
Oh c’mon Andy. You got this!
andy sweatin like a bomb technician
Rios GS !
Uh Oh
C’mon, Andy. Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill…
its always baffled me how pitchers lose it so fast..and coversely how they can find it again…please find it andy
andy lost his nut
Andy needs to throw a strike. He’s going to walk a run in!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 4th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
LOL GB, She still has time to embrace her glove, don’t worry. Is the competition going to be Braves fandom?
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Yeah…I’m fighting her uncle, who’s a season ticket holder with the Braves. No problem. I’ll just get her a Yankee pinstriped Mustang for her first birthday. Hope nobody thinks that I’m trying to bribe her.
CB – you are right, they are laying off that inside diving cutter.
I dont know why he is going to the slider, I’d go to the curve.
not the walk parade again! c’mon andy – pretend it’s the first 3 innings!
That could have been worse. Just get the third out now.
Actually I have always respected that Andy is not afraid to continue to go after hitters no matter what the situation is. He IS a battler.
“I dont know why he is going to the slider, I’d go to the curve.”
He’s been trying to induce a ground ball for a double play. Thus the slider.
He wouldn’t have run on a guy with a cannon, say Nick Markakis.
nice arm scrubs
whew!
First pitch strike please. Whenever…
i mean really – strikes, please!
arite, I’ll take. Phew!
Lester up to 53 pitches.
all things considered…an ‘ok’ outcome
Andy’s pitch count skyrocketed with that inning.
They only score a run, could have been much worse. I’ll take it
Okay. Not bad. Let’s go, bats.
They Rays telecast just had a graphic that showed that if the Angels get the leadoff man on, he scores 62% of the time.
That is just sick.
ok – now let’s get some runs!!!
That Hinske has no flair at all. Swisher would have rolled over three times, done a handstand, and then made a terrific sliding catch.
“I dont know why he is going to the slider, I’d go to the curve.”
With two outs he went to the curve ball pitch one.
It’s so simple with Pettitte. His stuff is good enough to get hitters out as long as he throws strikes. Part of the reason he’s struggling this year is because his BB/IP is one of the highest of his career.
In his first three starts after the ASB he issued just 3 walks, and it’s no coincidence that he pitched well.
Hinke’s arm might be weaker than Damon’s, the throw barely reached the infield. Getting out with only 1 run is fine.
TOR has Roberto Alomar in the booth. He’s not the one who spit in the ump’s face, right? That was Sandy…I think.
Anyone else hate the counting of pitches throughout the game?
That was the weakest throw [Hinske] I’ve seen in quite some time.
He couldn’t even get it into the infield before it bounced.
“DD August 4th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Rios GS !”
How’s the weather in your parallel universe?
GB before I start praying are you using disposable or cloth diapers?
“Hinke’s arm might be weaker than Damon’s, the throw barely reached the infield. ”
Wow, worse than Damon? That’s pretty bad.
It’s amazing how, no matter how much Halladay struggles early on, you look up and he’s on pace to go 7-8 innings on 100 pitches or so.
What is it with Petite? lights out for three innings and then he nibbles and nibbles and issues two walks and gives away a run. Every game he seems to have an inning where he losses his composure. He’s 37 and surely by now can control his emotions.
“Anyone else hate the counting of pitches throughout the game?”
The teams make pitch count something you have to watch. You want to know how much longer a guy has.
“DD August 4th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Rios GS !”
How’s the weather in your parallel universe?
Mostly clear. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 71F. Winds SSW at 10 to 20 mph.
Doreen
August 4th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Anyone else hate the counting of pitches throughout the game?
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me, too, until the 6th or 7th inning it’s a waste of energy because if the pitcher is pitching well he’s not coming out and if his pitch count is too high he’s giving up runs.
Laura I think it was Roberto who spit at John Hirschbeck
Yeah…I’m fighting her uncle, who’s a season ticket holder with the Braves. No problem. I’ll just get her a Yankee pinstriped Mustang for her first birthday. Hope nobody thinks that I’m trying to bribe her.
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LOL, the mustang might be a *little* premature considering she can’t drive for 16 years, but definitely not a bribe.
That wasn’t a good throw by Hinske, but remember that outfielders sometimes try to bounce a pitch on purpose because of the turf. He might have just bounced it too early.
Pettite needs to keep this inning quick here.
Halladay is like a surgeon on the mound…
Halladay in lockdown mode now. It’s up to Andy to hold them through seven.
Meanwhile Roy has reverted to complete game mode. We missed some opportunities early. Then the Pettite meltdowm. Hope he is better this inning.
Unfortunately for Andy at this stage of his career, he just isn’t good enough to get through lineups 2-3 times a start.
That’s why he hasn’t won since July 1 and he no longer goes deep into games.
They are going to have to get Ace up and ready to go at the start of this inning and not wait for Andy to fall apart.
The Yankees have a real dilemma.
Andy can’t give them consistent length any longer, Mitre is awful, and Joba is on an innings count.
Going to be interesting to see how they intend to fill all of these innings the rest of the way. If they can’t, they are in big trouble.
Earl, that’s it, Andy Pettitte, consummate professional, who beat John Smoltz 1-0 in a key game in the ’06 series when he was in his early 20′s, can’t control his emotions. Got any other intelligence to share with us?
Bronx Brorn
August 4th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
GB before I start praying are you using disposable or cloth diapers?
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they’ll be disposable. It’s going to be bad enough changing them. I draw the line at washing them out.
that’s the ’96 series, of course…
toronto’s going to put andy away this inning
Andy Pettitte with a lead…
I’ve been tough on Andy, but you can’t expect him to pitch a shutout. I said before the game that I’d be happy if he pitched well…….Hopefully that was just a blip ..
Nice double play Tex
SJ, Andy’s gone 7+, and 6+ twice in his last 3 starts, who give them more than that consistently?
Nice!
oo tex that was a beauty <3
“Laura I think it was Roberto who spit at John Hirschbeck”
Wow. The announcers were really gushing over him. You wouldn’t think they’d do that for someone so disgusting.
Again, no one throws over a guy’s head like Tex.
DP
“Halladay is like a surgeon on the mound…”
true -but Andy isn’t “Cuttin’ for the very first time” either.
giambi throws that right to damon’s chest!
“They Rays telecast just had a graphic that showed that if the Angels get the leadoff man on, he scores 62% of the time.”
On average a team scores around 40% of the time the leadoff man gets on in an inning.
If they are scoring at a 62% rate that is remarkable.
I know this has been said before, but Tex is a heckuva 1B.
Teixeira is really not that bad at first.
that’s my Joe Girardi impression.
thank goodness for the doubleplay
Wow, the guys better be on their toes. Those balls are being hit right at them.
Past a diving Jeter
August 4th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
toronto’s going to put andy away this inning
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What a great call.
Decent bounceback by Andy.
good play by Tex to get the DP. Tex is so valuable to the team with his glove and bat. Good pitching by Andy.
Did he just say a line drive right at Alex Rios? Haha woops.
Chris Schultz retired, just announced on TSN
Did Singleton just call A-Rod Alex Rios?
lol at Carlos Pena trying to make the play that Tex just did. He made a nice throw to 2nd, but dropped the return throw.
Tex has saved the Yankees a ton of runs this year.
His defense has been as valuable as his offense.
The DP’s are keeping Andy in this game because his stuff has really tailed off the last two innings.
Velocity and movement are both less than what it was earlier.
Going to be interesting to see how he can navigate through the middle of the order in the 6th.
Nice pitcher’s duel going on. If Pettitte gets through the 6th unscathed, I wonder if Girardi will go to Hughes/Coke for the seventh inning and not try to push his luck.
I think when we play in Canada all trolls should have to use “eh” in their comments…
like – toronto’s going to put andy away this inning, eh?
Teix=best FA signing in many years…
CB -
I thought I heard that Bobby Abreu had a BA with RISP over .400? I didn’t check it out, but it sure made me want him back her for a game or two.
MG -
Exactly. Pitch counts are tedious in the beginning of the game. Only worth looking at toward the end, and if a pitcher is really laboring.
I could hit Roy Halladay. Easily.
with my car, if he was crossing the street, very slowly.
I wouldn’t though, because he seems like a nice guy.
I think there have been more 3-6-3 double plays this year than there were in all of Giambi’s seven years combined.
His fastball has a nasty little bite at the end.
The amount of pressure on the opposing pitcher when they are facing Halladay is something else.
The guy is like a machine out there. It’s perplexing to watch. How can someone be that good?
23 pitches in the first inning? No problem by the top of the 6th he’s at 66 pitches. That’s 13 pitches per inning. Better than his average of 14 pitches/ inning.
And he’s got 5 strike outs.
It’s just unbelievable.
Is that 8 in a row for Halladay?
ouch – nasty stuff… we shoulda got halladay
Doc has settled down. Andy can’t bend here.
Laura – Release the list!!
August 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
“Laura I think it was Roberto who spit at John Hirschbeck”
Wow. The announcers were really gushing over him. You wouldn’t think they’d do that for someone so disgusting.
I think there is alot more to the Alomar Hirshbeck thing than we originally were told. Not condoning spitting but HBeck reportedly said some really inflamatory things to Alomar. Legend???
Alomar is in a bad way now.
the way Halladay is pitching it’s amazing the Yankees have 2 runs and could have had a couple more if Wells doesn’t catch the ball hit by Matsui. Since then he’s been brilliant.
“I thought I heard that Bobby Abreu had a BA with RISP over .400? ”
.425.
By far the highest of his career. There is no way that is sustainable. It’s just not possible. It’ll come down. But my goodness is that impressive.
He’s been huge for them.
CB,
That’s why I had to laugh at some people on here trying to sell that Doc isn’t a great pitcher.
The guy is awesome. If he played on a playoff team, he would be even better.
Best pitcher in baseball, IMO.
jeets
Andy Pettitte is giving the Yankees all they could hope for in this game.
He’s staying right with arguably the best pitcher in baseball, not too shabby for the Pepster.
There’s been a lot of line drive outs in this game…
The way Halladay is pitching, they’re going to have to drive whatever mistake he makes. That’s the only way they’re getting another run off him. I can’t see them stringing together a run of hits.
They’re going to need to make plays like that in the field in this game.
Two great plays by Jeter to the right AND left proving he most certainly has range.
It’s pretty simple. Either Andy and Hughes and Rivera hold the team to no more than two runs or the Yankees lose.
Such is the case when Halladay is at his best.
strange – no one has talked about moving Jeter away from SS in weeks.
“Going to be interesting to see how they intend to fill all of these innings the rest of the way. If they can’t, they are in big trouble.”
i have to laugh because the yankees always seem to be in trouble with their fifth starter.
and yes , i understand most teams do too, but is that any reason the yankees should?
i mean they are the yankees.
aren’t they supposed to do things better than run of the mill teams?
the 6th , 7th , and 8th starters in an organization pretty much have to be young guys because veterans won’t go to tripe a unless they are on some kind of rehab program like smoltz.
once cashman decided last winter that hughes was his 6th guy and aceves probably his 7th he really needed to stay with it.
switching these guys on the fly to short relievers left a hole that hasn’t been filled.
That play Wells made on Matsui changed this entire game.
At 4-0, Pettitte doesn’t have to pitch so fine and can take some chances. Doc also perhaps becomes frustrated.
Instead, it stays at 2-0, Doc settles in, and only some DP’s and some great defensive positioning are keeping the Yankees ahead right now.
Its just never easy facing Doc Halladay.
Uncle Ellsworth, here’s some of the back story from that incident (from wiki):
“Although most umpires stay out of the public eye, Hirschbeck came to be widely known for an on-the field incident on September 27, 1996 in Toronto when Baltimore Oriole Roberto Alomar got into a heated, two-way argument with Hirschbeck over a called third strike that Alomar alleged was outside the strike zone. Hirschbeck then ejected Alomar from the game, and Alomar spit in Hirschbeck’s face, claiming that the umpire had used a degrading ethnic slur against him. Lip readers contend that Hirschbeck called Alomar “a fa**ot” as Alomar was walking away. Alomar, and other players, claimed that Hirschbeck’s personality had changed, and that he had been on the edge and extremely bitter since the death of his son from adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD), and learning that another son also had it. The day after the incident, after hearing Alomar’s remarks, Hirschbeck charged into the Orioles’ clubhouse and had to be restrained by a fellow umpire. Alomar was suspended for five games and required to donate $50,000 to ALD research. One week later, on October 5, Hirschbeck said he had forgiven Alomar for the incident.”
Thank you Andy for a wonderful 6 innings. Greatly appreciated. Mr. Girardi – please lead him to the showers.
Hughes for two?
Andy is rockin it.
Andy’s night has to be over, right? He did an amazing job
Best game of the year so far for Andy. Come on Joe, don’t press your luck. No whammies!
Bring in Phil.
De La Rosa is perfect through 5 innings for Trenton against Reading. 6 strikeouts. Fastball at 93 MPH. Tomorrow’s a game of interest for Trenton. Bleich against Pedro Martinez.
Andy was dandy, but PLEASE don’t risk putting him in for the SEVENTH!!
“Best pitcher in baseball, IMO.”
He is. One of the things I’ve been wondering is whether Doc right now is better than Santana was during his great run in the AL?
Maybe I’m just misremembering. Santana’s numbers are better.
But there is part of me that watches Doc and can’t help but think that right now he is the best pitcher the game has seen since Pedro in his prime.
The biggest thing Doc has for him over Santana (and pedro I suppose) is the length he provides.
It’s a helpless feeling watching him. I can’t imagine how futile it must be to walk up there with a bat in your hand.
He could throw a 13 inning shut out and it wouldn’t completely shock me.
He’s a machine. It’s amazing.
That was all we could hope for from Pettite. Any more outs we can get out of him is more than we could have expected.
Halladay is such a great pitcher. You can’t help but enjoy watching him throw the ball, even if you hate facing him.
Lester just destroying the Rays, but is only up 1-0. Good news is his pitch count is up.
bring in Phil? Andy’s only at 80 something pitches right?
Jorge!
Finally Posada gets something out of swinging at the first pitch.
Randy,
Why should the Yankees be any different than anybody else in that regard?
How many fifth starters can they carry in reserve?
To the start the year, Joba was the fifth starter.
They had Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves in reserve in Scranton.
That’s 8 starting pitchers.
Then Wang gets hurt. The bullpen falls apart and they have to put Hughes and Ace in the pen. Then Kennedy goes down with an serious injury.
Add to it, a guy like George Kontos, who could have pitched himself in the mix, goes down with TJ Surgery. That wiped out all their depth.
Nobody has 9-10 available pitchers.
Its just a bad luck of the draw.
If they could just get a few insurance runs somehow
And Cano’s first pitch approach ends up as a DP
:shakes head:
the risk you take when swinging at the 1st pitch
give andy a break dammit
Not bad for a 37 year old “has been” that wasn’t supposed to have a chance against Halladay.
Oh, and Posada seems to be back from the DOL as well, a day off does wonders for the older bodies.
you putz cano! >:(
Damn Robbie. Two outs two pitches. Ack.
I’d definitely put Andy out there another inning.
Joel Pineiro not helping my fantasy team tonight…
the yanks are not scoring anymore better get the pen ready.
nice patience from cano, he is a sack of —-…
can they at least have a few decent AB’s??????
petttitte needs to hold it….no walks
2 pitches, 2 outs. Anyone here think Doc doesn’t go CG?
dps hurting (helping?) both teams tonight
5 pitch inning for Halladay. Not exactly a great approach.
Its going to be up to the staff to get 3 more shutout innings to win this one.
5 pitch inning? Doc has returned to true form. He is really amazing to watch.
guess it won’t be this inning.
5 pitches. Somebody should have traded for this guy.
More accurately stated, Joel Pineiro is killing my fantasy team tonight!
how could anybody think they wouldnt bring andy out for the 7th…87 pitches and has given up 1 run no matter how he usually fairs in the 7th
if the philosophy is be aggressive then they’re not running up his pitch count so why wouldn’t he go complete game?
6 pitches… christ…!!
Only 5 pitches.
Shouldn’t they be taking more pitches?
We’re going to press our luck, Pete (Tomarken).
No whammies! No whammies!
I think you go batter to batter with Andy the rest of the way. This is a game the Yankees have to have with Mitre going tomorrow.
You do what you have to do to win the game even if it bruises some egos.
Man, Halladay is wasted on that team!
5 – excuse me… I was wishing someone else was actually taking a pitch…
The melk man! Nice catch
Web Gem!
DA MELK!!!!! He does it all!!!!!
I don’t think we need to worry about Doc’s pitch count anymore he is going this whole game.
“Shouldn’t they be taking more pitches?”
Honestly it probably really doesn’t matter right now.
Doc is locked in and that’s that.
Posada swung at the first pitch and got a hit.
The only way they are going to score now is to hit a mistake pitch out.
Andy will be buying Shirley Temple cocktails for his entire defense tonight!
I dont know that there is much point in taking pitches against Halladay. You’d find yourself 1-2 or 0-2 pretty darn quickly.
“how could anybody think they wouldnt bring andy out for the 7th…87 pitches and has given up 1 run no matter how he usually fairs in the 7th”
Absolutely yes!
Andy is starting to get the ball up, Wells really tagged that ball.
But, Andy is fighting like the warrior he is!
The length Halladay provides makes him better than any pitcher in baseball, IMO.
Even when Santana has those games where he strikes out 12 batters, you know he’s gone after 7 innings at the most. Hitters can still work the count against strikeout pitchers and get to the bullpen.
With Halladay, there’s simply nothing to be done. You either don’t swing the bat and strike out looking, or you swing early and hit weak ground ball after weak ground ball. Either way, you’re screwed because he’s going to keep his pitch count down and go deep in the game.
Andy will be buying Shirley Temple’s for his entire defense tonight!
who has the wierdest stances in baseball…
youklis and rios come to my mind…
What a catch by Melky!
If Pettitte does make $11M this year, and the Yanks hold on and win this game, I’d say it was worth at least $1M considering the circumstances.
Does Hinske have a hammie? Could he be any slower????
Time to take the Andy out now?
Okay GB… you have my prayers and wishes and perhaps a gas mask or nose plugs.. But you are a most fortunate man to have so much love in your life.
Pedro and Johan are 100 pitch pitchers. Halladay is CC’s length and Pedro’s/Johan’s dominance
barajas is dangerous.
hinske has a terrible arm and no range.
get hughes up last batter…
out…now, please
Why not take Pettitte out now? He’s doing a great job, but lately bad luck seems to find him in the 7th inning. I trust Hughes more because he usually blows guys away and doesn’t have to rely on the defense as much.
Andy’s been great. But they should have had Hughes ready. Hughes was definitely going to pitch the 8th as it was.
Get Youuuuse ready
Since when did YES start using the TiVo sound effects for its graphics?
I agree Pepitone….Joe does not have anyone ready..how can that be?
Maybe pushing their luck with Andy for one more batter but I hope he proves me wrong! He has pitched a great game regardless and gone head to head with the best pitcher in baseball.
1 more out Andy. I have faith!
Those inside pitches make me so nervous..
Andy is still throwing very well, he won’t give in with an empty base and if he walks him Hughes will be in the game.
Andy’s threw Barajas two good pitches. He has him set up away.
Barajas looks like he’s centering the ball well.
Girardi’s walking a tightrope here.
Come on, Andy! One more strike.
Thank you bronx. I’m thinking about getting my diving tanks filled. Those fumes are toxic.
i cannot watch…
he’s going to try to paint the outside corner here, if he misses, a cutter on 3-2
Just walk him and bring Hughes in.
Cutter coming
Yooouse for the next batter if Barajas walks?
Hell you put him on if you have to.
Just like that.
Now I want to see Phil.
take vhim out now….
OK, Joe, you have to take him out here now.
PANIC time?
rather see a walk than a rope.
lets see how this plays out
The walk’s o.k. there. Phil against the #9 hitter is a great match-up.
red sox leading by how many runs? 5, 7, 10?
That’s the right move by Girardi (assuming he brings Hughes in).
ok, Hughes…one out here please
you could see that coming like I posted when it was 0-2. he was going for the strikeout and knew Hughes was coming in if he walked Barajas. The one thing he wasn’t doing was letting the game get tied on the last batter he was going to face.
This will be one of those moves where Girardi is hailed as a genius or will be second guessed…again.
“i cannot watch…”
And I could not NOT watch!
Down at the Trop I’m thinking Lester must be up to 500 pitches by now!
red sox leading by 1, right
1 run lead. papelbutt will blow it
Andy did as well as he could do tonight. Posada really nursed him through the last couple of innings when the cutter wasn’t there.
Up to Hughes to get this out. That’s why he’s in the pen…to get outs like this.
I hope Girardi did not wait a batter too late here.
I hate for Hughes to have to come in with two batters on base, it just puts more pressure on the kid.
Pettitte did well, again, to tonight. Only mistake was the walk to Millar. The pitch that Encanrcion hit for a double was a good pitch off of the plate. The walk to Barajas didn’t bother me. He was zeroed in on Pettitte’s pitches.
Best-case scenario game for Andy tonight. Gritty, gutty Andy Pettitte.
Would have preferred to bring Hughes into the game before the winning run got on base.
Double might give the jays a lead.
Andy pitched a great game.
the Jay announcers are “shocked” that Andy comes out.
Obviously they haven’t seen the new Hughes.
Andy @ 103 pitches.
“PANIC time?”
hardly
Trish – I’m much happier watching the tense innings on the post game or during the rebroadcast…
Lester and Garza are locked in a pitcher’s duel, but both are at 85 pitches in the 5th inning.
1-0 Sox Top 5 at the Trop.
lester at 90 odd pitches. 5th inning
Pettitte pitched great, the Yankees have a 1 run lead and the relief pitcher they want in the game, why worry?
Andy can’t watch. LOL!
sj-
i think a team needs eight starters and the yankees had three in reserve in hughes, aceves , and as you say kennedy.
.. so why move hughes and aceves to short relief and not expect problems as they were the replacement starters ?
that’s why i’m smiling about the problem because what else would you expect when you turn the two starters into short relievers?
the yankees should have made a plan and stuck with it because it’s easier to get relief pitchers than it is starters .
Two quality starts in a row for Andy. Can’t find fault with him.
96/97 on the gun wow
Curveball in the dirt, then go back to the fastball…
De La Rosa was perfect through 5.2 innings. A walk on a full count ruined the perfecto. he has 7 strikeouts….all swinging. No hitter through 6 innings.
“I hate for Hughes to have to come in with two batters on base, it just puts more pressure on the kid.”
Other than Mo, I can’t think of another relief pitcher with more poise and who seems to be immune to pressure.
The Yes gun was off on those first three fastball hughes threw.
He was 96/ 96/ 97.
heat up and in, then go away with the cutter if needed…
Phil needs to pitch in these situations if he is going br “big time” in the post season. take the huggies off.
No chance, son.
“Two quality starts in a row for Andy. Can’t find fault with him.”
Should be 4 outstanding starts in a row. That fluky 7th inning against Oakland cost him a gem, but if you watched the game it was one of his best of the season.
“Pettitte pitched great, the Yankees have a 1 run lead and the relief pitcher they want in the game, why worry?”
Bingo
Yooooooooooooooouse!
PHILTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg nasty curve. I buckled my self lol.
Phew. Sick Phil. Great job tonight Andy!
OK, curve ball, no cutter, same result…
Good job, Phil and Andy.
Dr. Nasty from The Yuse
Oh, was that a pretty curve ball or what????
Hughes is da man!!!!!
bautista tore his acl on that knee-buckling curve
Hey guys, two things from down on the farm:
Interesting doings in Trenton.
Not so interesting doings with Staten Island…
Girardi’s a genius. For now.
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Great strikeout by Hughes. Andy can rest a little easier now.
Haha Carl. That was quite a way of expressing yourself there.
rebecca what is the interesting news in Trenton???
Hughes and Mo have to hold them because they are not scoring of Halladay…
Hughes is absolutely unhhittable right now. Batista had no chance at all.
He is locating his fastball so well and with so much movement and velocity. It’s just amazing.
No chance that the hitter was going to touch a curve ball like that after that sequence of fastballs.
We’re seeing a young pitcher with #1 starter stuff right now.
wow, Hughes was smoking!
the Blue Jay gun had him at 155! Gotta love those kilometers.
Posada got that out. He pushed Hughes to throw the curveball and Bautista had no chance.
Posada won’t get any credit tonight but, the last 3+ innings, he has willed outs from his pitchers by going to their second and third best pitches to get hitters.
Great job back there by him tonight.
Up in Steeler country Petit of all people is no-hitting the Buccos through 6.1 IP…what is this world coming to??
When Hughes has his curveball working, hitters have no chance.
Abreu just got a single with men on 2nd and 3rd with two outs. His RISP number just went up.
For if you strike Hughes down he will come back stronger then possibly imagined.
The thing that aggravates me in these cases is that this forum would have been on Girardi like white on rice if the inning didn’t go right. Yet he played that perfectly IMO.
Doesn’t get more pressure packed for Hughes than that. Great job
after Hinskes AB take him out for a fielder. he cannot move or throw….
Stuart:
De La Rosa’s pitching line….
Hinske needs to be replaced in right field after this at bat, he is really weak out there.
Yeah, I know, Hughes has to learn to pitch in all situations, but, remember, he’s still only 23.
I would have rather Joe bring him in after the double, but, all things turned out for good, so Girardi’s a genius.
“Posada won’t get any credit tonight but, the last 3+ innings, he has willed outs from his pitchers by going to their second and third best pitches to get hitters.”
Yup, just like he got Burnett to throw his 2-seamer against the Rays after the 5th inning, to get more groundouts and reduce his pitch count.
Someone needs teach Hughes how to throw 95 through 6 innings, instead of just 2.
end of 5th, Lester at 94
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: Wow, Phil Hughes is filthy. 96, 97 then a hook that froze Jose Bautista like Ted Williams.
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That is so wrong, but so FUNNY!
Put Hairston in RF, maybe?
“after Hinskes AB take him out for a fielder. he cannot move or throw….”
Now we know why they play Swisher so much. Swisher may play a bad RF, but at least he can move (he even does cartwheels) and throw. Hinske has issues.
jennifer August 4th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: Wow, Phil Hughes is filthy. 96, 97 then a hook that froze Jose Bautista like Ted Williams.
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That is so wrong, but so FUNNY!
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OMG i cant believe i missed that. LMAO
HUGE homerun!
Johnny Damon!
Needed that run!
DEMON!!
Johnny B Goode!
Damon has Doc’s number.
Andy’s ERA since the ASB is 2.25, hopefully he gets a W tonight.
Way to go Johnny, that could be the game…
Ahhh I just screamed out loud!!! DAMONIC.
Johnny Damon hits it OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was big. How can Damon hit Doc so well? Unreal.
insurance runs are manna.
Wow Johnny. That looked like it came off the end of the bat.
Johnny D.
Halliday killer.
There’s the insurance run I wanted!
Big insurance run.
Damon!!! He is the only Yankee wondering why we dread playing Halladay!
Woo Hoo Johnny
Johnny Dangerously!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tex baby!!!
HOLY TOLEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Back-to-back off Halladay!
Needed that run, too!
lol
Yeah, Tex! Back to back against Halladay!
Oh, yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
Woo Hoo Tex too!
Wow. Damon hit that so far it showed up on the TB scoreboard, too.
absolute manna.
Y. Petit (ARI) with a no hitter going thru 7 innings.
Back to back Tex!
“Yeah, I know, Hughes has to learn to pitch in all situations, but, remember, he’s still only 23.
I would have rather Joe bring him in after the double, but, all things turned out for good, so Girardi’s a genius.”
Pep I don’t think it’s so much that Hughes has to learn to pitch in all situations as much as it is that he has shown that he can.
Pettitte had an 0-2 count on Barajas. Her was where he should have been.
This isn’t you, because you don’t do this, but there are posters here who make a proclamation about what Girardi should be doing and if Girardi doesn’t do it and then it works out okay, they then have to come up with a boatload of reasons why it did work out. What in hell is wrong with just saying, guess I called that one wrong!
And yes I have done it on various occasions.
nice!!
jennifer August 4th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: Wow, Phil Hughes is filthy. 96, 97 then a hook that froze Jose Bautista like Ted Williams.
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That is so wrong, but so FUNNY!
I think so too.
Back to Back and A belly to belly
Do they bring Mo in or let Yooooue go back out?
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) August 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
that was big. How can Damon hit Doc so well? Unreal.
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Things are weird, Enrique Wilson hit like.. .400 off of Pedro.
UPDATE WHILE TYPING: A TEX MESSAGE!
holy moley..
WOW…..
Halladay is not happy…
Back to Back, you could almost feel that coming after the Jays didn’t score in the 7th, it’s funny how that happens so often in baseball.
wow, halladay was just dominating, didn’t expect this
Back to back! Tex crushed that!
Back to Back Homers off the DOC????
Wha hoppened?????
Tex doesn’t hit any cheapies.
Hallawho???
The boys are hot tonight!!!! Tex and JD go yard! Nice to see!
This stadium is a joke.
Halladay
“I thought they only hit homeruns at YS”
Roy whined at the stadium when they went deep … what does he have to say that they hit em out in Toronto as well? He whined about it in NY.
That damn short porch in right field.
It’s ridiculous what a whiffle ball park it is out there to right field.
Halladay has a right to complain about those cheapies out to that home run alley…
un-freaking-believable!
Me like insurance runs
Who’s your daddy?????????????????
i thought doc only gives up HR’s in the bandbox?
What a great AB by Damon.
He is in an 0-2 hole, take a close 0-2 pitch a lot of guys swing at, gets a ball up and drills it. That’s the difference between veteran hitters and prospects.
Prospects don’t take that 0-2 pitch. Good veteran hitters aren’t afraid of hitting with 2 strikes on them. Great AB.
Tex follows it up by sitting on the cutter on the inner half and the Yankees finally have a little cushion.
Huge, huge insurance runs right there.
Hey JP, Doc’s trade value just dropped again!!!!!!!!!!!
you know how we like that 2-out RBI metric, too!
You will never catch me uttering anything about Halladay other than “he’s having a rare off night.”
I think he might be the best pitcher in the game.
omg i love the CC-Johan commerical
“HEY ZZ, this new subway chapotle` sandwich is REALLY big”
Those were clearly “Yankee Stadium hrs”, gawd this bandbox is ridiculous…..oh wait they’re in Toronto.
sj-
don’t get me wrong. i enjoy hughes pitching well in the 8th as much as anyone as he really has cranked it up a notch .
but the moment he was converted to a short reliever the yankees need to get a starter to replace him. how long has he been a short reliever? it’s been awhile and no replacement was found for him.
that’s just a bad job by the yankees in leaving themselves thin with starters when they have had plenty of time to get someone.
Look, what Girardi did in the 7th is the standard way you work with a veteran pitcher. He knows Andy isn’t going to give in and trusts him to either get the out or walk the guy. Either way he has Hughes ready with the #9 batter-I’m not sure Hughes was ready anyway since Encarcion hit that bloop double with an 0-2 count.
Johnny D. People running him out of town not long ago, he will be very hard to replace. Think he definitely should be offered arbitration or a one year with an option. DH spot will be open with room to rotate OF. No one you can get to replace what he brings. Carl Crawford would be nice the year after.
I feel sorry for Halladay, but just a little bit. I think that whole trade fiasco was embarrassing and upsetting for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit going forward.
Halladay should’ve had a V8 or maybe stayed at a Holiday Inn
Nice try Hairston. Hinske would have got there by Thursday.
And here’s another thing. Doc seems to be a sensitive sort of guy. It looked like the Jays were about to do some damage – and they couldn’t pull it off. That might have thrown Doc a little bit.
You can’t have too many insurance runs against Halladay.
Hairston looks like a nice pickup for the Yanks.
BOS up 2-0.
That’s true, Trisha, too many criticize the manager when the decision goes wrong, but not enough give him credit when the decision goes right.
SJ44, so glad someone mentioned the game Posada is calling, I was getting ill with all the anti-Posada garbage that went on during the Chicago series.
Randy,
I agree it’s on Cashman for not adjusting and getting SP depth after Hughes and Aceves went to the pen.
He just does not do a good enough job having depth while spending 200 million. At least this year they have a good bench which he has not in recent years.
CASHman has to trade for a starter and i fear as long as we stay in front of the sox they will put a claim in on all SP.
eek
It says something that Girardi is going with Hairston as a defensive replacement in RF.
Um, Phil, don’t make this too exciting…
Phil?
Okay, today is not the day for Hughes to have a hiccup.
crap
ummm paging Phil youusseee? Youssse are you there?
MPB JOHNNY DAMON HIT A HOME RUN AGAINST THE ALLMIGHTY ROY HALLADAY!!!!
“I feel sorry for Halladay, but just a little bit. I think that whole trade fiasco was embarrassing and upsetting for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit going forward.”
I agree Laura. It’s easy for us (and players) to use the old “it’s business” line, but when it is the team you’ve spent your entire career with that has put you out there, and then they jerk you back, that has to hurt just a little.
They are going to have to get Mo into the game this inning.
Phil has to find a way to get 2 outs and Mo can get the third out of the inning.
Don’t leave him out there to throw 30+ pitches.
Lind is a dangerous hitter
Hughes missed his spot by a lot on that fastball to Hill. He hasn’t done that often recently.
0-2 hits are always killers.
outs, please…
Lind is obviously the key guy, 26 dingers and represents the tying run.
“SJ44, so glad someone mentioned the game Posada is calling, I was getting ill with all the anti-Posada garbage that went on during the Chicago series.”
Did you watch those Chicago games? I bet if you asked Posada how he played, he’d tell you that he stunk up the joint. That doesn’t mean he’s not a good catcher. It means that he’s human just like everyone else and on occasion, he’ll have a bad game or two.
man Hughes is missing location – he’s actually got lucky on a couple of those foul balls – missed Posada’s target by a foot.
Erica, I way waiting for you to freak out
Let’s hope Phil can hold the lead here.
Hughes doesn’t have his good fastball tonight, that’s why he’s throwing breaking balls. But what a pitch that was…
Sexy 2 seamer from the Yuse Monster
That was very lucky, because Lind could have hit that pitch hard if he swung at it.
great fastball to get Lind
great fastball to get Lind
“Lind is obviously the key guy, 26 dingers and represents the tying run.”
Looks like UPS has been mistakenly sending Ortiz’s magic shakes up to Canada.
Yeah, Cash has done a poor job. With that payroll, the Yanks should be much higher in the standings.
SI_JonHeyman: luis castillo just slipped on the dugout steps and is apparently hurt. a banana peel is the symbol of this season.
Wow. First pitch of Millar’s at bat… Zoomed right by him. Incredible.
What is the news out of Trenton?
This is absolutely not going out on a limb but I am going to say it anyway. I have nothing but faith in Hughes getting out of this inning to the extent that I am going to allow myself to run to the market and catch the rest of the game as soon as I get back.
Hughes struck out Lind but he still missed his spot on that third strike.
“CASHman has to trade for a starter and i fear as long as we stay in front of the sox they will put a claim in on all SP.”
m-
if the yankees fall behind the red sox, i’ll just tell my annoying red sox friends that it’s a ploy to get a pitcher before the red sox can block it
NYY626 – Andy is my homeboy
August 4th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Erica, I way waiting for you to freak out
Let’s hope Phil can hold the lead here
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I was screaming in my car
If a pitcher throws a no-hitter against the Pirates, is it still considered a no-hitter???????
A Pettitte-Halladay pitching clinic, back to back HRs, excellent defense, tight game, how can anyone be debating #5 starters?
Hughes has no problem getting 0-2 on hitters. He just needs to be able to put them away. Seems like every batter is 0-2 and then it takes another 3 or 4 pitchers to get them out.
“Hughes struck out Lind but he still missed his spot on that third strike.”
The difference is that as a reliever, he throws hard enough to get away with mistakes. The difference between 91-92 and 95-97 is just enormous.
Hughes got away with a hanger there.
“If a pitcher throws a no-hitter against the Pirates, is it still considered a no-hitter???????”
Yes, but they put an asterisk by it in the record books.
“If a pitcher throws a no-hitter against the Pirates, is it still considered a no-hitter???????”
Do you consider Cone’s perfect game against the Expos to be perfect?
I freakin hate Millar
MG
Tomorrow night will be here soon enough and we will once again have to watch the brutal Mitre struggle through a couple innings.
The Chicago series definitely isn’t going into the Posada scrapbook.
That said, pros bounce back from bad series and Jorge is the consummate pro.
Millar reminds me of those gnats that attacked us in CLE. I wish I had some spray to make him go away.
Come on DP.
good lord!
he missed location there again, it was supposed to be away
Can Hughes paint the inside corner?
“The difference is that as a reliever, he throws hard enough to get away with mistakes. The difference between 91-92 and 95-97 is just enormous.”
It’s true.
But ever since that start after the baltimore meltdown – even in those starts – his location has been tremendous.
It’s been his location more than his velocity that’s been the difference.
Johnny D. August 4th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
“If a pitcher throws a no-hitter against the Pirates, is it still considered a no-hitter???????”
Do you consider Cone’s perfect game against the Expos to be perfect?
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Yes but only because i had a man crush on Coney at the time.
Please don’t get beat by this washed-up ass…
Millar want to comment he sucks again to the papers???
Millar is putting together a good AB – time for him to sit down.
great pitch, Phil, attaboy
Hey, don’t pick on those Expos!!!!!!!!!!! John Bock-A-Bella…………
RS August 4th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Can Hughes paint the inside corner?
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You called it. You got it.
THANK YOU PHIL. That was stressful
1 more
Wow, I totally called it.
Now go to Mo just to save Hughes’ arm. He’s throwing too many pitches.
“Can Hughes paint the inside corner?”
Why, yes he can!
Comboy up millar…
another great fastball for the K
Lets go Mo!
Millar has had to have seen 20 pitches in this game.
Can’t believe he took strike three down the middle of the plate.
Mo time, if I’m Girardi. Almost 30 pitches for Hughes and he did his job tonight.
mo cometh! thanks Millar for giving Mo decent warm up time.
I don’t know what Millar is griping about?
He really fought off a lot of good pitches in that at bat … as he usually does against us.
Guess he didn’t Cowboy Up????????
Mo for Fo, again…
held the lead but it still took the kid 26 pitches to get 3 outs. that’ll never work as a starter.
TylerKepner: That’s only the second time Halladay has allowed back-to-back homers. Also 6/5/07 to Upton and Crawford of the Rays.
YankeesWFAN: Rivera coming in for 4 out save. Scoreboard here says Hughes threw 25 pitches–21 for strikes!
Petit just got squeezed on 3-2 FB which should have been strike 3. Buehrle would have gotten that call
that last pitch didn’t look middle – it looked inside.
“Yeah, Cash has done a poor job. With that payroll, the Yanks should be much higher in the standings.”
forget the name “cashman”. people’s brains seem to turn to mush when they use it.
the yankees have done a very bad job of sticking with their plan for who was going to be their 6th , 7th and 8th starters.
and now they are in a hole if they don’t pull a rabbit out of a hat and come up with a surprise.
that’s why Girardi wanted Andy to get the 3rd out in the 7th, to lessen the chance of Mo having to get 4 outs.
Millar practically hangs over the plate. He may have thought that pitch was inside but it was a clear strike. It wasn’t even close.
Why is Girardi so obsessed with the 4 out save for Rivera.
Its so freaking stupid. 4 outs is ok but 5 outs is too much.
Mo still has to sit between innings. The guy is 40 years old, let Hughes get out of the 8th.
Just so dumb. 4 outs is so much less than 5, right? Because he could easily throw one pitch and get a DP and get out of the inning. Or he could have a 9 pitch ab just to get one out.
Just amazingly stupid.
Washburn is getting rocked tonight. 6 ER – 5 innings.
Good non-trade Cash.
Bye Bye No NO
“Do you consider Cone’s perfect game against the Expos to be perfect?”
At least Vlad Guerrero was on that team. And in perfect games, you can’t pitch around anybody. Who’s the best hitter the Pirates have? Andy LaRoche?
Nevertheless, a no-hitter against ANY team is impressive. Santana could pitch against a AAA team and still give up at least one hit.
Hughes threw 26 pitches.
22 strikes.
That is amazing. 85% strike rate while throwing that hard and in high leverage spots.
tj way to try and find fault in Hughes getting a key out last inning and 2 nice ones here. You have never seen a guy start a game with 20 pitches and get in a groove after that?
Mo is the only relief pitcher who gets the ultimate respect from the opposition announcers, it’s like they almost know it’s over when he comes in the game.
Why not let Phil finish the inning?!
Oh boy. That’s what happens when you get behind 3-1.
When is Joe gonna show some confidence in the kid. Come playoff time he can’t keep going to the well for 4 out saves. Just show some confidence. You need MO for the Sox series. Really not liking this, Phil and Mo should not be available tomorrow. Just like I said, nice work Joe.
Yikes
Damon is like a monkey out there.
Except, I think a monkey might be a better outfielder.
“Just so dumb. 4 outs is so much less than 5, right?”
Well yes actually, with Hughes it is because the kid still has trouble finishing off hitters and already threw 25 pitches, and was pitching himself out of tomorrow’s game. After taking him out, who else is there to bring in but Rivera?
>That is amazing. 85% strike rate while throwing that hard and in high leverage spots.
Everybody and their mother were fouling pitches all over the place.
SON OF A *****..i knew Mo was gonna blow it. His cutter looked off.
Eek did not expect that from Mo. Come on Mo finish them!
Didn’t expect this would be easy. Nice try by Damon.
uh, mo…outs, please
Girardi overmanaging with the bringing Mariano in with two outs.
Had to happen Glad its’ over.
Hurray for Tex’s hr
Mo needs to bear down and not let rios get some rinky dink flare hit to tie this game.
Mo’s control is off tonight.
Phew…
Those insurance runs loom large
Why does Mo have to give me a heart attack?
ouch man
Whew.
If the Yankees escape with this one, they can call themselves damn lucky as well as good.
End of Phil’s scoreless streak
ok – nice…a run or two would be nice – 6 straight outs, even nicer
well that wasn’t pretty – but the good news –
in the 9th inning, the Jays will have 7,8,9
exhale
Hughes was in control and could have easily finished the 8th with no runs! Mo still needs to make three outs sans the cushion when he came in.
Now I expect a 1-2-3 9th inning. Go Mo.
Now I expect a 1-2-3 9th inning. Go Mo.
Oh well………..I would have left Hughes in as he rebounded nicely after letting the 1st 2 guys get on base…………..but I’m not managing…
Girardi needs to stop taking Hughes out when he’s in a rhythm. He was going to get the next hitter. There was no doubt in my mind. He’s got better stuff than Mo right now (no offense to Mo).
Why does Girardi insist on putting him in the 8th with runners on? This is the second time Mo has allowed some of Phil’s baserunners to score in the last few games.
Joe needs to learn his lesson this time.
I wouldn’t be opposed to some insurance runs right about now.
Mo just did that so he could get the save…
Don’t know why that happened. I hope it is not a 1-2-3-4-5-6 inning
Hughes rough outing….1IP, 2ER, OUCH……Good game by Pettitte…and EVEN A Rod I see has 2 hits WOW….
“Everybody and their mother were fouling pitches all over the place.”
So you’d prefer a relief pitcher who throws balls?
He was pounding the zone. They were getting a piece of the ball but nothing was hard hit.
If anything, when hitters are fouling pitches off it becomes difficult to keep throwing one strike after another after another.
Matsui baby!!!!
Godzilla!
halladay is gonna hurt somebody
Thanks Matsui. Halladay must be pissed.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Halliday meltdown
A THRILLA FROM GODZILLA!
There’s one insurance run. Can I have another?
The Phranchise
August 4th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
tj way to try and find fault in Hughes getting a key out last inning and 2 nice ones here. You have never seen a guy start a game with 20 pitches and get in a groove after that?
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Take the rose colored glasses off, your boy has consistently had trouble keeping his pitch count low and has yet to learn how to finish guys off, which is fine since he’s still only 23 but the pitch count is something that needs to be watched in these spots.
Thanks Matsui, we needed that run back.
Damon and Matsui have homeruns in back to back games against Halladay.
This is kind of absurd. When was the last time Hideki didn’t pull a home run?
another cheap NYS homer
Syanora baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GODZILLA STOMPING ALL OVER THE HEART OF TORONTO!!!!!!
At least got one run back!
Back to a 2-1 game oops spoke to soon, way to go Matsui
Now Matsui.
I love these Yankees.
I just called that. I swear.
Yes more insurance. Can’t blame new YS Roy.
Wow. 3 HRs from Halladay. And we wanted this guy????
Lester working on a 3 hitter……
Something’s wrong with Roy
Lets watch Halladay blame the Yankee Stadium bandbox on his home runs given up tonight
Girardi isn’t overmanaging.
Hughes was at almost 30 pitches and Millar had a great AB against him. He also hung a curve to Scutaro and got away with poorly located fastballs to Lind and Hill.
Going to Mo was the right move. He fell behind Wells and got a pitch up. It happens.
Its still a Yankee lead and Matsui just added an insurance run.
Hideki Strikes!
Wow Matsui
By the way after the comments on CC not being an ace the other night imagine Halladay on the Yanks right now he wouldn’t be one either on this blog.
That was a very long home run.
AW fellas – Hughes left two on and Mo gave up the Wells hit that scored the two runs. Thank goodness for Matsui.
Wow
The Rogers Centre is a bandbox LOL
Insurance run!
mat-su-i!!!
Laura – Release the list!!
August 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I wouldn’t be opposed to some insurance runs right about now.
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Laura-
Ask and you shall receive
Halladay’s been brilliant this year, but that’s 14 homers he’s allowed. I suppose as a strike-thrower, it’s just inevitable.
I can’t believe it. The Yankees scored 5 off of Halladay in 2 consecutive games.
Brian from PA August 4th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
what are the odds the Yanks score 5 runs off Halladay again?
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Well, to answer MY question, ME…pretty good. pretty good apparently.
Boy, Halladay gives up 3 HR to 4 batters.
Cheap NYS homers.
maybe Roy is pitching badly on purpose so they’ll trade him & he can join the Yankees?????????
Halladay is not an ace.
poetic justice. It seems every time that out of town announcers talk about the NYS “band box” – the Yanks go deep in THEIR ball park.
Matt K
August 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Mo just did that so he could get the save…
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It was already a save situation
And a player can’t put themselves into a save situation. It has to be one when they enter the game
Cito’s just leaving Doc in so he can claim another CG. Most people would get pulled after giving up back to back HRs in the eighth like that.
tonight’s game is a great example of why baseball is so special. Look at everything that’s happened in the last 2 1/2 hours. You just have to appreciate a great game like this.
Girardi really wants the game tonight. Mo and Hughes won’t be available tomorrow with the Sox series starting Thursday, that will give some of you lots of time to complain tomorrow night.
Girardi took Hughes out because his pitch count was climbing, and Mo usually gets quick outs.
In one of the games against Oakland, it took Hughes 38 pitches to get 4 outs, while Mo needed just 13 pitches to get 4 outs.
I love Hughes and he has great stuff, but he needs to learn the same thing that many young pitchers have yet to learn, and that’s how to finish hitters off. We’ve seen Joba go 0-2 on a hitter and end up with an 8 pitch AB. It’s just one of those things where he needs to gain experience, but we can’t afford to let him go 30+ pitches every time out.
Halladay=Who’s your Daddy?
Bet he wishes he was a Yankee now!
If Halladay didnt cure cancer – who did?
“Laura-Ask and you shall receive”
Ok. I want to hit Mega Millions tonight.
does that end Phils scoreless streak or did i miss when it ended?
Mo did not look sharp in the 8th, but Phil put the Yanks in a tough position – Mo is not always going to be able to get out of other pitchers’ jams. Hopefully he’ll have enough in the tank to get through 1 more inning.
I was watching a movie, so I missed Phil’s inning – his location is phenomenal and that’s what was his calling card coming out of HS. I’m not sure who said that he was throwing 91-92, but that was last year. This year as a starter, Phil was more like 92-94……..
When is Gaston going to pull Halladay? He seems to be losing it a little.
Whew.
If the Yankees escape with this one, they can call themselves damn lucky as well as good.
End of Phil’s scoreless streak
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Hughes gave up a run in Chi
tj give me a break, you clearly don’t watch too many games. Trouble finishing guys off??? How do you explain his strikeout totals then? So he got 3 ks tonight by not being able to finish guys off I suppose. I guess you are used to a lot of those 3 pitch strikeouts I imagine
Does Cito Gaston just tell his bullpen to stay home when Halladay pitches???????????
The Yankees need Rivera Rules: no more four out saves.
“Girardi needs to stop taking Hughes out when he’s in a rhythm. He was going to get the next hitter. There was no doubt in my mind. He’s got better stuff than Mo right now (no offense to Mo).”
Oh please. It’s never a mistake to put Mariano Rivera into a game. The only issue is the cumulative workload that he’s exposed to.
Otherwise he is always the best option. Always.
And hughes is throwing the ball fantastic.
But Mariano has been utterly brilliant for most of this season. He has a K:BB ration of 8. Who has better stuff than a pitcher who can do that.
Hughes has gotten tired quickly when he’s thrown more than 30 or so pitches in an outing.
Girardi has made the mistake of going too long with hughes.
Tonight he absolutely did the right thing bringing Mo in.
Mo was a little off and fell behind. It happens.
But Girardi made the right move.
3 outs 2 go
2 run lead, 7-8-9 coming up for the Jays.
Time for Mo to do his thing.
Is it possible…
Maybe just a little… that the Yankees are catching on to Roy Halladay????
Thanks tj
I pretty much missed that whole series.
I’m surprised Halladay is still in there………I guess he didn’t have a high pitch count.
This commercial is so awful! CC and Santana need acting lessons!
so these guys just want to get the ball to Mo and end this
“Most people would get pulled after giving up back to back HRs in the eighth like that”
Halladay isn’t most people.
It doesn’t matter.
When you bring Mo into the game in the 8th he still has to sit between innings.
The guy is 40 years old. Girardi has done this numerous times so far this year. Somehow he has some stupid notion in his head that 4 outs is ok but for some reason 5 or 6 is completely unacceptable. He can’t be that stupid. Yet he shows over and over again that he is.
There is no way to know how many pitches it will take to get a certain number of outs. Which is why the 4 out philosophy is so flawed.
I’m not talking about the result. I would have said the same thing even if Mo hadn’t let up that hit.
He’s just too valuable to be used consistently in this manner.
“Halladay’s been brilliant this year, but that’s 14 homers he’s allowed.”
But 6 of the 14 HRs came in 2 starts against the Yankees.
Richie
August 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
The Yankees need Rivera Rules: no more four out saves.
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Girardi doesn’t do it often. Everytime Torre did it I would throw stuff at the TV in a rage
TB into the RS bullpen
So, if we win, Pettitte gets the W right?
“Halladay is not an ace.”
Line of the night. So true.
Can you imagine the reaction of yankee fans if say CC threw a game like halladay did tonight?
Mass chaos and panic.
We’d be up to 500 Matt posts by now ripping CC and blaming Posada.
CC and Santana must need the money……….I wonder if CC gets paid in subs?????????
MPB Johnny Damon was robbed for Player of the Game.
So what if Andy Pettitte stiffled the Jays for 6 and 2/3?
Why do I keep thinking of “Beauty and the Beast” songs?
Mo only had 2 4 out saves the whole month of July, he’s fine.
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream) August 4th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
does that end Phils scoreless streak or did i miss when it ended?
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That ended in Chicago
NYY626 – Andy is my homeboy
August 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
So, if we win, Pettitte gets the W right?
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Absolutely. The Yankees maintained the lead throughout the game
Rays runnerson 1st and 2nd…0 outs…..
And as I typed that, Navarro hits into a DP
CB, do you think Phil is feeling the effects of being in the pen at this point ? He’s been a starter his whole career and obviously was used to starting every 5th day; pitching out the the pen is a completely different story. It seems like he’s throwing more pitches and getting tired….. Of course, he was always in for a course correction because there’s no way he could remain as dominant as he was.
Uncle Ellsworth (turn off your mind relax and float downstream)
August 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Why do I keep thinking of “Beauty and the Beast” songs?
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Is this a trick question?
I caught a partner in my office whistling “Beauty and the Beast” to himself last week. Very awkward moment
Navarro with a DP. Should have bunted.
Halladay, pfffft!
Just caught up via dvr, nice stuff. Tex starting double plays is always a beautiful sight to behold.
I hope everyone loves Andy again.
The Phranchise
August 4th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
tj give me a break, you clearly don’t watch too many games. Trouble finishing guys off??? How do you explain his strikeout totals then? So he got 3 ks tonight by not being able to finish guys off I suppose. I guess you are used to a lot of those 3 pitch strikeouts I imagine
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Instead of looking at bottomlines why don’t you try looking at the actual substance? I’m not the only one saying this, as another poster pointed out, Hughes needed 39 pitches to get 4 outs against Oakland, in the same game Rivera needed 13. A pitcher can still miss location and throw strikes as Hughes has been doing, he got away with a few poorly spotted fastballs etc. It doesn’t take most pitchers 8 or 10 pitches after jumping ahead 0-2 on a hitter.
Erica – always OPPC
August 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
MPB Johnny Damon was robbed for Player of the Game.
So what if Andy Pettitte stiffled the Jays for 6 and 2/3?
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if he had made that catch, I would have voted for him
some of you must think that Girardi and Eiland never discuss this with Mo. Don’t you think Mo has lots of input into how he’s used in a game and how much he can pitch without getting worn out?
I love Jerry Hairston!
Dp here would be nice.
ok, Mo – let’s end this here
Mo’s having an off night…… let’s get 2 more outs man
Mariano’s just not been as sharp of late. Get it out of the system, Mo.
double play please
Oh, oh, come on Mo. Let’s get ‘em!
Remember Mitre is going tomorrow, so better to use your big guns tonight.
That was a terrific defensive play by hairston to keep that ball in front of him and keep the runner from advancing into scoring position.
That ball gets by hinske for a double.
If I had only one pick for an AL starter I would want on my team it would be Doc hands down. Tonight doesn’t change that.
Hey, our catchers don’t even bunt LOL
that was too close
One more to go
oh my freaking god, I thought that was gone
wow, that carried a lot more than i thought it would….. deep breath
Aren’t aces supposed to be robots?
yikes. that’s it MO.
no more fries and gravy on your Canadian off days.
You can tell Mo is having some trouble. Let’s go Mo end this game!
lucky that was the #8 hitter or it’s a tie game. Mo isn’t sharp tonight but that has nothing to do with pitching more than one inning, he wasn’t sharp to Wells either.
This game needs to end. Mariano keeps missing his spots…
The guy is 40 years old. Girardi has done this numerous times so far this year. Somehow he has some stupid notion in his head that 4 outs is ok but for some reason 5 or 6 is completely unacceptable. He can’t be that stupid. Yet he shows over and over again that he is.
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First off, Mariano is not 40, he’s 39, second, he knows what he’s doing with his pitchers better than us.
He’s had two years with these guys now, he’s got a pretty good handle on who can do what by now.
Mo not his usual incredible self
keep the ball down
can Mo be too well rested??
De La Rosa ended his night…..7 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 7 strikeouts against a good hitting Reading team.
Is this a trick question?
I caught a partner in my office whistling “Beauty and the Beast” to himself last week. Very awkward moment
wasn’t me
)reminds me of Costanza “master of the house….”
seriously whenever I hear “Gaston” I think of it.
I still remember Scutaro’s walkoff HR.
Bastard.
I remember that Scutero home run – I was headed to the airport for a 2-week baseball free work trip and was LIVID…saw it at the airport
Mo got away with on there. A cutter that didn’t cut.
Abreu batting .323 has 75 runs scored…wish we could get a player like that LOL
this is excruciating
miggs,
I think there’s too much of a delicate balance between Hughes and Mo’s health.
Girardi has to decide whether he’d rather get 4 outs from Mo, or leave Hughes in for 30+ pitches and watch him get less effective. It has to be a tough battle.
The best solution would be to have a second set-up man that’s as trustworthy as Hughes. Unfortunately, the Yankees don’t have that right now.
A real nail biter
Last guy you want at bat now is Aaron Hill. He’s one of the hottest hitters in the league right now.
Mariano at his worst is probably better than just about any other closer.
He never causes me worry.
Not even now.
I think I have ice water in my veins too!
Mo hasn’t looked this bad in a long time. Confident we’ll win, though.
Ugh, Mo…
K-Rod just blew a 2 run save in the 9th.
Mo, just end it already!
He has nothing tonight.
Wow. This would be a terrible loss.
oh boy…
could Swisher have caught that ball on his unicycle?
Nah, probably not.
Unfortunately they’re back at the heart of their order.
I’ll cry if he hits a walkoff home run.
Sweating this one out. If Hill wins it Halladay doesn’t deserve the win
Mo apparently thinks that we don’t have enough drama in our lives.
Really.
This is his 10th appearance where he’s been asked to get more than 3 outs. That’s one-third of his total saves number.
Excessive.
whew
good lord.
where’s Betsy?
Yankees win!!!
that’s it. Yea Yanks
Phew!
Sox are up 2-0 in the 7th.
Like that kids. Like that.
Damn Mo, you made me pee tonight.
everyone can breathe
Phew
Matsui, GWRBI
And I was right. Good game.
’bout time.
Whew
I just lost my colostomy bag that last inning.
Bottom line……………We beat Halliday……
John Sterling also passed out on that last call. I think he needs to change his pants a bit.
I feel so bad for Halladay – he deserves better than this team…
*Exhales*
K-Rod just blew a save for the Mets. Santana was in line for teh win after giving up 5 ER in 8 IP. I guess Johan’s also not an ace.
The Yankeeees Win!! And my boy Andy beat Halladay
Rays still in the game
Baseball Cliche time: The great ones figure out a way without their best stuff. Whew!
“Sox are up 2-0 in the 7th.”
Not any more they’re not!
Yankees win! Theeeeeeee Yankees win
Whew………Mo bent and he didn’t break; see that look on his face? He’s not happy with himself………….lol. Again, though – he got the job done.
Yeah for MO! e saved the team again. What a pitcher.
miggs-
mo has over 120 career saves of over 3 outs….it’s not excessive, its what he’s done his whole career
Tonight is just another example why you don’t make stupid predictions before the game starts.
The Yanks were supposed to lose tonight to Halladay and Sabathia had to be nearly perfect to beat Sandy Koufax wearing his ChiSox uniform on Sunday.
Both got knocked around pretty good by this Yankee lineup.
Sox up 2-1 in the 7th
I wasn’t scared…
Johnny interview. YAY!
What we just witnessed, ladies and gentleman, was Mo and Doc Halladay looking human at the same time. A rare occurence, indeed.
You can’t keep asking Mo to get four out saves. Not at age 39.
They’ve got find someone else who can be reliable out of the pen.
This can’t keep happening.
tj go through his game logs per game. He had a couple high pitch counts his last few outings passed that his counts were good and of course when he has 2 ks in an inning he is more than likely going to throw more than 7 pitches. His last few games are a sample. I just can’t believe anyone can find fault in what he has done.
Glad we won… but Joe for Chryslers sake let Hughes finish an inning….
CB August 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
“Halladay is not an ace.”
Line of the night. So true.
Can you imagine the reaction of yankee fans if say CC threw a game like halladay did tonight?
Mass chaos and panic.
We’d be up to 500 Matt posts by now ripping CC and blaming Posada.
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Exactly. Every big name pitcher is an “ace” until he plays for the Yanks and has a rough night.
That’s what you get from great pitchers. Keep the team in the game and get outs when you don’t have your best stuff. That’s what Halladay and Rivera did. Pettitte was as good as he can be at this stage of his career….and it’s been pretty good.
Does Halladay have the most CG losses ever or what?
Seems like he’s still pitching into the 9th even when he loses
This was a huge win.
All they needed from this series was a split. With mitre going tomorrow the best you could hope for was a split. Just wanted to avoid a sweep.
What an explosion by the bats. What a turnaround in the game.
That’s a nice win tonight.
You come off a series in which you play like garbage against the White Sox and have to face Halladay and get a win. That’s impressive.
Now its up to Sergio Mitre to show he belongs on this roster and give them a well pitched game tomorrow night.
It’s not going to show up in the boxscores but Jerry Hairston Jr. save this game for Mo, that ball Chavez hit was on the screws and should have been a double, Hairston kept it a single, and the Scutaro hit too.
Every time Mo makes these types of games interesting, the wins can sometimes be harder on the body than the losses.
BIG Whew!
Is there ANYONE else here who wasn’t sweating it? I have to think I wasn’t the only one here who felt good throughout.
I agree rconn- either HUghes should finish that inning or someone else needs to step up.
Really need a guy like Downs.
Great win beating Halladay. Yanks have now scored 5 runs against him in consecutive starts. Mo got very lucky, he had absolutely no location. It was so bad I thought we were going to see a walk off 3 run homer.
Great win……..just terrific.
A nice win despite Girardi’s mismanaging.
2-1 bahston. C’mon Tampa!
Damon going with the Tex-share-a pronunciation too in the interview with Kim.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member who says she doesn’t trust you but she does trust the Yankees!
August 4th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Is there ANYONE else here who wasn’t sweating it? I have to think I wasn’t the only one here who felt good throughout.
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I was making lunch for tomorrow in the kitchen completely afraid to look. LOL
Very good win. That too against Halladay.
Also, Hairston is good in the OF. We got our late inning replacement for the corner OF positions.
I thought Bartlett was safe at second. 2-1 Ped Sox
pat
August 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Damon going with the Tex-share-a pronunciation too in the interview with Kim.
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If Johnny says it that way, it must be correct
Master of the house, keeper of the game…
They aren’t overusing Mo. Both his total number of pitches and innings are down from previous years at this time.
He’s fine. He’s human and tonight he wasn’t crisp. That’s baseball.
Bottom line is, he got the job done and they won the game.
He will be off tomorrow and fresh for the Sox series.
If we win, why is Girardi mismanaging?
Mo apparently thinks that we don’t have enough drama in our lives.
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LOL yeah, apparently he doesn’t read this blog
“Exactly. Every big name pitcher is an “ace” until he plays for the Yanks and has a rough night.”
It’s true. For all the Yankee fans who were dying to trade for Halladay – imagine if he had pitched this way against the sox in the upcoming series.
The derision would have been something.
He’s not an “ace.”
Roy Halladay is no Josh Beckett.
That’s ultimately what it would have come to.
“A nice win despite Girardi’s mismanaging.”
How did he mis-manage? He took out Hughes who was running on fumes and brought in his closer. If he leaves Hughes in and he lets up the game tying hit, you’d be killing him for that. Be happy we got a win and leave it at that. Girardi knows what he’s doing, he isn’t managing a first place team for no reason.
plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is.
that was an alka seltzer moment.
WHAT! Does this mean Halladay didnt invent Dippin’ Dots?!?!
“I wasn’t scared…”
I should have known I was in good company!
Pujols needs a triple for the cycle.
Phil was tiring and had thrown a lot of pitches, correct? If that’s the case, you can’t leave him in. I agree with the poster who said that Girardi is walking a fine balance between overusing Mo and Hughes……
Let’s hope Mo got all this out of his system tonight, and he returns to his usual God-like form against the sox.
First of all, Girardi made all the right moves tonight, I doubt any other manager other than possibly Ozzie Guillen would have done anything else.
Secondly, I think the Sox do the Yankees a favor if they sweep the Rays, it puts the Rays at least 7 behind the Yankees and also gives the Yankees a chance to put away the Sox if they win the next two series between them in August.
“Pujols needs a triple for the cycle.”
I doubt Adam Rubin will allow him anything good it hit…
LOl, Girardi can’t win. If he leaves Phil in there, then he is pushing Phil too hard. He brings in Mo, and it is too much for Mo.
How much satisfaction do you think the team gets out of a win like tonight?
Great starting pitching. They are going against one of the best pitchers in the league and manage to knock out a few home runs against him. Then they keep it together when things get hairy at the end.
I would think a win like this would really make the team feel good. Like they can win any game
Didn’t sweat that at all. Yanks at plus money, what’s not to love? Scutaro is a pest, but Mo had that all the way. He’s very good at his job.
Melky and Hairston Jr. came up big that 9th inning.
Al put his Pete Rose cleats on tonight. Mo got the save.
Angel Berrora just bobbled the ball for the mets in the top 9th,thank god he’s not on the Yankees anymore.
“Secondly, I think the Sox do the Yankees a favor if they sweep the Rays, it puts the Rays at least 7 behind the Yankees and also gives the Yankees a chance to put away the Sox if they win the next two series between them in August.”
That’s the way I look at it. If BOS takes care of TB, that’s one less opponent for us to worry about.
LOL Angel Berroa. Making things uneasy for the Mets.
Beating great pitchers like tonight are like playoff games. This team definitely has the ability to put it together in a playoff series. They just need to get there.
Mo August 4th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
LOl, Girardi can’t win. If he leaves Phil in there, then he is pushing Phil too hard. He brings in Mo, and it is too much for Mo.
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Very true.
The Phranchise
August 4th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
tj go through his game logs per game. He had a couple high pitch counts his last few outings passed that his counts were good and of course when he has 2 ks in an inning he is more than likely going to throw more than 7 pitches. His last few games are a sample. I just can’t believe anyone can find fault in what he has done.
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Why is it so unacceptable to you for me to say he needs to learn how to keep his pitch count down? It’s a fact, and it’s perfectly okay being that he’s 23. If he’s ever going to be a frontline starter he needs to learn how to pitch economically. That’s all fact.
“miggs-
mo has over 120 career saves of over 3 outs….it’s not excessive, its what he’s done his whole career”
Ramey get a clue. His career is 16 years. That’s an average of just over 7 a year.
He’s 40 years old and has already had 10 such appearances this year with 2 months left in the season.
You do the math.
mattyinnj
August 4th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Angel Berrora just bobbled the ball for the mets in the top 9th,thank god he’s not on the Yankees anymore.
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I can feel the looks of death K-Rod is probably giving him
how many pitches has K-Rod thrown this inning?
PS WDR was disgusting tonight.
BTW, I saw a WB Mason truck today and it said “Proud Supporter of the RED SOX”!! Screw them!
Andy –> Master Philip –> Mo
All homegrown Yankees.
“Pujols needs a triple for the cycle.”
Guess his slump is over.
“A nice win despite Girardi’s mismanaging”
Girardi din’t mismanage. He managed perfectly. And the Yankees won the game.
IMO even if the Yankees had lost, he would have managed perfectly.
No manager can always guarantee perfect execution despite making correct calls…
Girardi made all the right moves tonight. He’s not overusing Mo and Hughes.
Some of you really have to try and learn a little more about the game.
They had an off day yesterday. Everybody was fresh for tonight.
Its a game they had to have with Mitre going tomorrow.
You have a 2-1 lead in the 7th, you are going to go to Hughes and Rivera, your two best guys, to win the game.
You then manage according to each guys effectiveness.
If Hughes had a clean 8th, Mo would have started the 9th.
However, with the tying run at the plate and Hughes approaching 30 pitches, you go to Mo. That’s the right move.
You have to pitch these guys if you want to win games. They aren’t being overworked. They are being used in the best way possible to win these games.
There are people rooting for Bos over TB? I can’t fathom this…
I still think Halladay is still a billion times better than Mitre.
SJ44
They aren’t overusing Mo.
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What makes you say that? That he has given up hits in 8th inning of the last two games when he has relieved Hughes? Or it that he is giving up a few more walks since he started being used for four out saves?
He’s going to be 40. Hughes is very effective. There is no reason to overuse him.
Now its up to Sergio Mitre to show he belongs on this roster and give them a well pitched game tomorrow night.
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Exactly, he has to show the club that he is a major league pitcher, otherwise he’s using up a roster space.
PS WDR was disgusting tonight.
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What is WDR??
Laura – Release the list!!
August 4th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
“Secondly, I think the Sox do the Yankees a favor if they sweep the Rays, it puts the Rays at least 7 behind the Yankees and also gives the Yankees a chance to put away the Sox if they win the next two series between them in August.”
That’s the way I look at it. If BOS takes care of TB, that’s one less opponent for us to worry about.
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Laura, great minds think alike and, if the Yankees can take care of the Sox with 6 out of 7 or so, maybe the Rangers sneak in for the wild card and the Sox go home at the end of the season.
Tied 2-2 at the Trop
THANK YOU GOD FOR EVAN LONGORIA!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA!!
Looks like Shakespeare ran out of words!
Longo baby!
Plus I’m not finding fault with Hughes, just pointing out what needs to be improved upon, re: pitch counts, one would hope this is the attitude he and other players would take out of all their performances, both good and bad – otherwise you get the Joba routine – saying how this was the best stuff he’s had all year on a night when he either got shelled or nibbled and pitched around hitters all night.
2-2 homer off the invincible Bard
Did Longoria really hit a home run against the greatest, most untouchable pitcher ever?
Bard doing his Phil Coke impression lol
41 for K-Rod. They’ll be no sky pointing gyrations tonight.
SJ44
Some of you really have to try and learn a little more about the game.
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I realize that you think condescension is a substitute for an argument, but you aren’t fooling me.
Nick in SF August 4th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Andy –> Master Philip –> Mo
All homegrown Yankees.
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Our homegrown yanks have treated us pretty well over the years
Yes Tampa.
wow after 41 pitches krod finally got out of it with an uneasy pop up i’m sure he was glad Castillo wasn’t at 2b. Girardi managed the game fine, last game against the a’s he kept Andy in to long this time he got him out before he got into trouble.
“how many pitches has K-Rod thrown this inning?”
41, lol.
what was bard pointing at.
LOL Now I’m seeing elsewhere that tonight was a lucky win…Andy gave up a lot of hard hits, Mo was off, etc……..Huh? Who cares. The Yankees scored 5 off of Halladay – that’s not luck. Mo wasn’t sharp at all, but he got the job done; he bent and didn’t break. How many closers bend and bend and actually DO break?
“There are people rooting for Bos over TB? I can’t fathom this…”
No self respecting Yankees fan roots for BOS. What I’m saying is that I can see the benefit of BOS beating TB. I’m not rooting for them to beat TB. By the same token, I won’t be upset about it either. I’m in favor of anything that helps us. BOS knocking TB out of the race helps us too.
AWWWWWW!
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
miggs-
I certainly have a clue. i know how many years rivera has played, i also know he isn’t 40 yet and hasn’t shown one sign of declining. and it isn’t like he’s throwing 50 pitches per appearance like paplebon or k-rod. rivera is just what he is, an ungodly pitcher and it wasn’t out of the realm of humanity for girardi to ask rivera to get 4 outs. who would you have brought in, bruney? you win or lose with your best in that situation.
Longoria hit a homerun off of the greatest, most untouchable pitcher to ever grace the mound of the Trop. Thanks Longoria! Great matchup of young talent.
tie score in boston
Betsy
August 4th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
LOL Now I’m seeing elsewhere that tonight was a lucky win…Andy gave up a lot of hard hits, Mo was off, etc……..Huh? Who cares. The Yankees scored 5 off of Halladay – that’s not luck. Mo wasn’t sharp at all, but he got the job done; he bent and didn’t break. How many closers bend and bend and actually DO break?
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Betsy, meet K-Rod. K-Rod, meet Betsy
“Did Longoria really hit a home run against the greatest, most untouchable pitcher ever?”
Somewhere, Gammons is slitting his wrists.
tj guess I took it more as being very critical. Papelbon has averaged 20 pitches an innings over his last 5 games. Just like Joba and all strikeout pitchers which is what he has become as a closer is going to lead to some high pitch counts. As a starter I am sure he would be quite similar to the starts Joba was having not going deep into games. I agree with that, but getting outs is all I care about. I don’t sweat his pitch counts if he is only supposed to be in for an inning as he isn’t walking people. Hugh pitch counts with lots of walks as a reliever is a disaster and he is average a k+ an inning in relief which means he is putting guys away with 2 strikes and he is getting a lot of swings and misses.
as long as the Yankees keep winning, whoever beats the Red Sox is a winner in my book…
“what was bard pointing at.”
Yon Cassius, who has a lean and hungry look!
i thought the greatest untouchable pitchers of all time were Wilson ,pulsipher and isringhausen for the mets
As long as the Yanks won tonight, who they gain a game on doesn’t really matter at this point.
Is Bard the one who has it in his contract that BOS can’t trade him or is that Westmoreland?
3 – 2 Rays
Holy crap, Rays just took the lead!
# Laura – Release the list!! August 4th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
“There are people rooting for Bos over TB? I can’t fathom this…”
No self respecting Yankees fan roots for BOS. What I’m saying is that I can see the benefit of BOS beating TB. I’m not rooting for them to beat TB. By the same token, I won’t be upset about it either. I’m in favor of anything that helps us. BOS knocking TB out of the race helps us too.
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Laura, you are being way too rational… this is the red sox we’re talking about
LOL Bard throws the bunt away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not rooting for the Sox but not rooting for the Rays either. Basically, I don’t care what happens but IF the Sox win both games it probably helps the Yankees. They also get helped no matter what the outcome of those games, particularly if they win tomorrow.
and now the red sox are losing
Bard throws it away.. 3rd and 2nd.. no out.. 2-2 game.
oh boyyyy. the great daniel bard.
The whole Phil / Mariano issue is a direct result of concerns regarding the thiness of the pen….Millar had an outstanding AB, as he hung in there until he was fooled on a heater inside…..Aceves maybe called upon to throw 3 innings tomorrow……It’s cut bait time for Sergio tomorrow….I do think he’ll have his best outing, I just hope the carpet doesn’t bite him in the arse…..Getting on a roll for Boston…..
Well, maybe not so fast
“What is WDR??”
Wilkins DeLaRosa
He had TWO outings that he have up hits and now he is being overused?
Try looking at his career pitch and inning totals and you will see he isn’t being overused.
I know either Boston or Tampa have to win, but I wouldn’t mind seeing them tied for another 13 innings or so.
no way zobrist should score tampa getting screwed.
You could see the rookie throwing that ball away on aybar’s bunt as the play was unfolding.
That’s a rookie mistake.
You could just see it happenning as he scampered after the ball and set up off balance.
But they’re a hit away if not. Ball was trapped in the corner.
Girardi did fine. He’s not a puppetmaster; the players have to execute once in a while too. And they did, there were just a few bumps in the road. You know who REALLY executes well? Andy Pettitte. Attention must be paid.
WRONG yanks want Boston to lose
That was very strange but that’s ridiculous Zobrist would have clearly scored on that.
“Laura, you are being way too rational… this is the red sox we’re talking about ”
LOL! I’ll have to work on that.
Rays getting screwed, runners being sent back to 2nd & 3rd………….
Somewhere peter gammons is adding the entire rays team to the steroid list because he believes its a conspiracy their doing this to super bard
I’m watching Weeds, much funnier than any Sox game…
wow. terrible misjudged call.
Richie, why is ok to overuse Hughes? I’ve not been happy with Joe lately, but he has exactly 2 reliable arms in the pen – that’s it. Phil has struggled some lately, he’s putting some more guys on base – it happens. A fresh Mo is better than a tired Phil…….
TJ, keep in mind you are catching Phil in the middle of a stretch where he is possibly fatigued. He’s not at his sharpest – it happens. Up until this little stretch, he’d been unbelievable …….and he certainly was putting people away.
“You know who REALLY executes well? Andy Pettitte.”
Sorry, executed. He doesn’t always. Just often.
Bard just made one of the worst throws, all falling apart
The next good young pitcher coming through the system is David Phelps. He’s been outstanding in Charleston and Tampa, this year.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=475479
tonight, he was: 6 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 8 strikeouts.
Venditte was perfect in the 9th inning with 3 strikeouts.
Brackman pitched two innings in relief for Charleston with mixed success. 2 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk and 6 strikeouts.
Future HOF Daniel Bard continues to fall apart.
I’m rooting for the Rays.
There’s no wavering going on at all over here.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Also like I said earlier, the Rangers are a bigger threat than the Rays for the WC.
terrible terrible call.
Daniel is getting some experience, we need to get Melancon into these type of situations. It’ll only make us stronger.
I want the Rays to win because
1 – I like the Rays
2 – I hate the Sux
3 – the Sux are the 2nd place team
Bigtime screw job on Rays
Laura,
It was westmoreland. He had a very hard committment to Vanderbilt when he was drafted. Reportedly he only signed because he was a Sox fan growing up.
He had some kind of clause in his contract that essentially gives him no trade protection for some period of time so that he could be assured he’d stay in the sox system.
Bard. Shakespeare. Now I get it, LOL. I was wondering what happened on this blog, all of a sudden we’re a litarary bunch?
You’ve got that right, Zach. Horrible, horrible call.
Dewayne Staats is ready to throw his hair piece on the field he’s so angry.
I feel sorry for Halladay, but just a little bit. I think that whole trade fiasco was embarrassing and upsetting for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles a bit going forward.
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I agree!!! It must have been an emotionally draining experience for both him and his family. It was made worse by JP Ricciardi’s constant leaks to the media. Halladay deserved better. We are lucky to beat him…I hope that he gets treated better in the future.
Bad bad call there, the Rays should be up 3-2.
please the only threat the rangers are is to no one, their young pitchers will wilt under the grueling august heat in Austin. Angel Berroa trying to be a hero for the mets hahaha
Washburn was horrible tonight.
I wonder if fish face will get into the game early
The important thing is that they New York Hughesies won the game. The rest is just noise.
The fact is, Phil did get Millar out…..and kudos to him. A lot of times, a pitcher gets tired in those long at bats and throws a meatball…….Phil didn’t. Pat M, I completely agree.
I can’t root for the Sox…..The Rays are 6 games back. They’re not of it yet, but they are far enough away that I’m not thinking about them right now.
“Future HOF Daniel Bard continues to fall apart.”
I wonder if he signs his name that way.
“You know who REALLY executes well? Andy Pettitte.”
Yeah Andy is the man. Not only does he give you a blindfold and smoke first, he drives you home afterwards.
SJ44
He had TWO outings that he have up hits and now he is being overused?
Try looking at his career pitch and inning totals and you will see he isn’t being overused.
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His career pitching totals? You mean when he was twentysomething or in his 30s before his recent surgery?
The mere fact that Girardi realizes that he shouldn’t be used for five out saves (as he was earlier career, as the stats you cite will demonstrate) underscores that he knows that Mo isn’t the same pitcher in terms of durability.
So the issue is only how much durability he has lost.
As a result, there is an implicit acknowledgement that four outs may result in overuse because no one knows how many IP an almost 40 year old reliever who is coming off shoulder surgery can withstand.
Equally important, there is no reason to risk it. Hughes is that good.
umps really bad call in the rays-sox game, ball was clearly visible by the equipment bag during the replay, bush league move by jd drew….
This is lov-er-ly!
A pitch by any other name would have stunk as bad…
Bard…1st ballot HOF’er… Definitely.
LETS GO RAYS !!!
lol, settle down Dewayne, you’re going to blow a gasket.
“It was westmoreland. He had a very hard committment to Vanderbilt when he was drafted. Reportedly he only signed because he was a Sox fan growing up.”
Thanks, CB. I knew that it was one of those two.
JD Drew threw his hands up & the umps stopped the runners right there…Rays announcers are POed
“Bard. Shakespeare. Now I get it, LOL. I was wondering what happened on this blog, all of a sudden we’re a litarary bunch?”
Thank you! I have been making Bard references since the kid started pitching and this is the first time someone called me on it!
Washburn is getting rocked tonight. 6 ER – 5 innings.
Good non-trade Cash.
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I’m glad that we didn’t give up Montero to get him.
BJ NOT JUSTIN.
Andy did give up a lot of loud outs, but Halladay had his fair share of scorched line drives caught and with runners on base too. One thing I’ve always noticed about Pettitte, he has an uncanny tendency to pitch to the level of competition. He’s can be bad against mediocre pitchers, but he’ll grind it out and outduel the best pitchers in the game, which is what makes him so valuable in the playoffs.
Upton will probably K.
It’s hard to think this but tomorrow we need Melancon to pitch the 8th or 7th we’re going to need Yusssse vs Boston.
“please the only threat the rangers are is to no one, their young pitchers will wilt under the grueling august heat in Austin.”
The Longhorns are no threat at all.
See. I’m psychic.
Sox in trouble. Bases loaded, one out.
Good call Laura haha.
Wow. Upton just had no chance on Bard’s fastball.
LAURA YOU ARE A JINX, DON’T THINK THAT WAY.
Delcaaaahmen. They have to get a run.
Oh come on ! Score a run Tampa ! See the umpires cheated for the Red Sox once again.
Well the best I can say is that Upton has been stinking. These guys will stun me if they don’t get at least one run in.
Okay who will it be, Del Carmen? Gotta be. They already burned Okijema and Will Shakespeare. Unless it’s Saito.
I thought Bard was doing a wonderful job, he should have staying in the game
You can over power Upton on hard FBs.
Can someone explain the play that the Rays got jobbed on.
Conspiracy, I call conspiracy!
Where’s Gammons! I want those umps tested for PED’s … they can include Gammons too!
How can he take out Bard? He just struck a guy out!!! He needs to learn how to get out of jams!!! Yada yada yada
Andy is just adorable. I’m gushing a bit over here
So happy he got the win.
One thing that we must not overlook was great outing and effort by Andy Pettite tonight……The one thing I’ve noticed since the break, is how Andy is finishing his pitches….This accounts for the cutter coming back….It also indicates that his upper back is feeling much better…..If you look at some of those starts before the AllStar break, Andy wasn’t following all the way thru…It seemed that at this he was short arming at times……This is significant that Pettite feels good…..
All they need is a long sac fly (at least that).
COME ON RAYS! I BELIEVE IN YOU!!!
TB has their bums up though.
to be fair, Ben Zobrist was gifted that walk. He really shouldn’t have been on first.
Washburn got screwed by his defense. And Westmoreland doesn’t have a no trade clause, thats another farse from the farse master Peter Gammons, Keith law cleared it up on his blog.
gaaahhh…c’mon Rays – just one run.
huge fail here by Tampa
Did anyone see how badly the Rays ere just cheated?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Pettitte that happy. He was almost giddy. That’s nice to see.
Unbelievable Tampa may actually blow this.
Pat M…
Pettitte was a little lucky with BIP tonight, but I agree that the cutter (and health) are the difference in his increased effectiveness.
absolute failure
Red Sox and Umpires 2, Rays 2, after 8.
Woww that sucks for the Rays.
Horrible job by the Rays. Just awful.
Rem dawg’s son probably hooked Ortiz, garciaperra, manny and others up with the PED’s
well, that sucks.
Score a freakin run you idiots !
“One thing that we must not overlook was great outing and effort by Andy Pettite tonight……”
Without a doubt. The home runs were tremendous. But Andy was very good.
Some hard hit balls. But Andy was really pitching most of the game with no margin of error at all with Doc on the mound.
Andy has been very good since the break. The cutter looks much better.
When things like this happen, all I think to myself is that the baseball gods are doing it to get the Sux fans even more excited about the possibility of a win before they put the final nail in the coffin.
That said, that inning sucked.
wow..
as the tampa announcer just said…”thats a shame.”
BS call keeps the game tied in Tampa after 8 innings.
rays may be finished for the year if they lose this game………Gotta be mentally fatal……..
WOW THAT CALL WAS B. S. RAYS GET SCREWD AT HOME.
Way to go Umps!
Booooooo Tampa!
How does a team not score with bases loaded and no one out? How is that possible? The Rays are losers.
and the rays get no runs, wow …..tough break, Joe M. should have just gotten himself ejected after that horrible call
Somewhere, George Mitchell and Bud Selig are petting their persian cats and cackling maniacally together.
“And Westmoreland doesn’t have a no trade clause, thats another farse from the farse master Peter Gammons”
That’s where I heard it. He said it on Kay’s radio show that Westmoreland had a no trade and that’s why BOS wouldn’t include him in any deals.
Regardless of the call, you’ve got to score at least one run with the bases loaded and no outs.
Tough to see the Rays winning now.
Hey Laura, how about saying some bad things about the Sux and positive things about the Rays, even if you don’t believe them. We don’t need accidental jinxes!
At least we can hope for the game to go 19 innings.
that right there is precisely why you put power arms in the bullpen. there’s almost no other way to get out of a bases loaded, no one out jam.
sending Zobrist back to third was inexcusable. he could have pulled a Nick Swisher stop, drop and roll and still scored.
The umpires just helped Boston steal another one. Two runs should have scored because of that wild throw.
Now you have to root for lots of extra innings in Tampa. Wear out the bullpens.
Andy: “Jete said I almost dislocated his arm on that line drive”
LOL
mattyinnj
August 4th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
please the only threat the rangers are is to no one, their young pitchers will wilt under the grueling august heat in Austin. Angel Berroa trying to be a hero for the mets hahaha
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I agree with that. That’s asking a lot of any pitcher, but, especially, young pitchers to expect them to throw perfect pitches from Austin to Arlington (195 miles away).
Any chance this goes into extra innings and keeps burning and churning through the BPs
Hmmmm, Andy Pettitte…. Yes, Pat M, I agree with you.
“Regardless of the call, you’ve got to score at least one run with the bases loaded and no outs.”
No question.
Eh, I want the Rays to win, but I’m just happy the Yanks won – that’s really all I care about. I can’t get too worked up over the Sox game………
Announcers are just livid, and rightfully so………….
Gammons tried to make it sound like there was a tacit agreement in place w/Westmoreland (nothing official).
GB – your humor some times has me laughing out loud!
“And Westmoreland doesn’t have a no trade clause, thats another farse from the farse master Peter Gammons,”
Thanks for the info. I thought that was very strange – never heard of a prospect get that kind of contract clause.
But it was repeated by gammons and people on espn over and over. Should have known better with Gammons.
That’s all right, the Devil Rays will get em in the bottom of the 9th.
The best part is Staats and RS Kennedy are actually upset.
Maybe next time they wont mention that the Yankees get all the calls, but probably not, since they still have yet to mention that the Red Sox get the calls like they do about us.
Looks like the lockers in Toronto go Jeter-blank-Melky-Robbie
I thought Melky and Robbie don’t get to locker together
Completely unrelated to anything relevant but Brian Matusz made his debut for the Orioles tonight and won. Their rotation now has he and Chris Tillman (both bigtime prospects) in it–should be interesting to see how the Orioles pitching improves as those guys get experience under their belts.
haha, Green just hit DeRosa w/the bases loaded and 2 outs.
Los Mets, those lovable losers.
Postgame from Andy, Jetes and Jorge tonite. Old Guard representing.
I can’t believe how absolutely nasty and meanspirited some of you are about Angel Berroa. All the guy ever did was tried to do his best when they put him in games for the Yankees.
There are really some nasty-assed people walking this earth. I hope people are nicer to those you care about than you are to some of these players. It’s one thing when someone is a loser in what he says or does and plays in pinstripes. It’s another when he might not be the best player in the world but gives his best anyway.
extra innings for the sox… c’mon rays!
total failure for the Mets. wow.
Now Dewayne wants them to change the rule. Well, it’s not going to help you now, buddy, so give it up.
It was a dead ball, and the right call was made.
Miggs
I sort of agree with you. On one hand, I do think Mo should only be used over two innings as a last resort. It still early August a long way to go. As for career numbers he should be used below those numbers, as he’s not getting any younger. Wells has similar numbers vs Mo and Hughes so it wasn’t a match-up reason
On the other hand, Hughes has shown that he hits a wall around 30 pitches. We have a chance to beat Doc and we have an unknown going tommorow. Put yourself in Joe’s shoes and tell me you don’t call for Mo. If I’m Giradi, I go with Mo.
look a meaningless GS for Pujols
Meet the mess. I mean Mets
Laura “That’s where I heard it. He said it on Kay’s radio show that Westmoreland had a no trade and that’s why BOS wouldn’t include him in any deals.”
We’ll newsflash he was wrong.
LOL. The Mets are unbelievably bad.
LOL the Mets really suck. A horrible franchise.
Jason Bartlett is on my fantasy team, just thought I’d mention that. He used to steal a ton of runs. Doesn’t do that lately.
COME ON CARL CRAWFORD!!!
Staats and Kennedy have been qicly told by Sun/FSFL not to question the Red Sox.
They have said “they stand corrected.”
Im fairly certain, and it’s happened against us, on a grounds rule double, it is the judgment of the umpires where the runners are and where they are allowed to advance.
These guys are saying they’ve been told, there is no judgment, it’s just 2 bases.
By the way, per RAB, Betances does not need TJ surgery…..he’s just sore
http://riveraveblues.com/
Kyle Anson was placed on the disabled list. Those Double-A catchers are dropping like flies. Meanwhile, that nasty little rumor going around about Dellin Betances needing Tommy John surgery is false. PeteAbe confirmed it. He’s out with soreness and should start throwing next week.
**That’s good news…….
oops – they’re at the trop – c’mon rays – walk off!
How I cannot stand Ellsbury. Grr!!!
trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! “I can’t believe how absolutely nasty and meanspirited some of you are about Angel Berroa. All the guy ever did was tried to do his best when they put him in games for the Yankees.
There are really some nasty-assed people walking this earth. I hope people are nicer to those you care about than you are to some of these players. It’s one thing when someone is a loser in what he says or does and plays in pinstripes. It’s another when he might not be the best player in the world but gives his best anyway.”
I hope you were being sarcastic with this comment, but i’m sorry angel berroa is washed up and if you call what he did with the yankees trying than I guess you would consider carl pavano an all star
Man the Mutts are a mess. An absolute mess.
I wonder if Santana is happy he signed that contract with them.
WTH? Castillo fell in dugout? oh LORD there’s a black cat somewhere.
Well, the umpires didn’t screw up. Apparantly the play in the Rays-Sox game is a ground rule not a judgement play. the announcers just said this. It was a dead ball and the runners had to go back.
“I hope you were being sarcastic with this comment, but i’m sorry angel berroa is washed up and if you call what he did with the yankees trying than I guess you would consider carl pavano an all star”
I was hardly being sarcastic. Berroa went out and gave his best. It’s really too damned bad if it wasn’t good enough for you. Don’t even begin to mention Berroa and Pavano in the same breath. Berroa didn’t dog it.
C’mon longo – increase your legend!
It would be nice if the Rays could pick up a couple of walk off wins against Boston…that would be a nice prelude to a weekend in the Bronx.
zobrist will win it here
getting to zobrist.. this is getting interesting.
The Mets “The lovable losers” LOL
From MLBTR:
Indians DFA Jose Veras
By Eddie Schmid [August 4 at 9:33pm CST]
Another Indian reliever has been shuffled: According to Anthony Castrovince at MLB.com, the Indians have designated RHP Jose Veras for assignment. He’ll move to make room for Jess Todd, the player to be named later from the Cardinals in the Mark DeRosa deal.
Veras had been acquired from the Yankees in June, and put up a 7.62 ERA in 13 innings for the Indians.
And just as I said Bartlett doesn’t steal, he steals 2nd! (not that it mattered)
C’MON ZOBRIST!
no quit in that former Yankees Omir Santos
Terry Francona is using his relievers liberally in a tied game. He’s not through the 9th yet and he has used Okajima, Bard, Ramirez and Delcarmen. Who is he gonna bring in next? Paps in a tie game?
More cowbell
Lol. Welcome to the AL East Jarrod Washburn.
And matty that wasn’t directed at you when I said it. Lots of people love to trash Berroa.
Berroa had a good run with the Yanks. He made a name for himself. Nothing to sneeze at.
He did that barbershop commercial with that duck. And the Yanks paid him in cash, which is just as good as money.
Trisha must be watching the gulf coast Yankees cause berroa coast the Yankees a game vs the sox earlier this year with his two errors, and yes I will mention Pavano because I don’t feel bad for either of them for the rath they get and cody ransom should be next out the door just like berroa.
more failure – just not in the cards for tampa
Wow. Its must be past my bedtime. I forgot that Washburn is on Detroit now.
Zobrist you putz
C’mon Ray TV annoncers I’ve heard enough about the lodged ball and everything….call the game
Okay here we go. Let’s hope for humongously long extra innings then so the kids can be good and tired when they get to the Bronx.
By the way I am predicting we are going to beat them up. Just a gut feeling because there is nothing that has happened in the season that says it should be the case.
Do the sox still have Saito? Is he still any good?
a loss by the Rays has its upside as well. No lose situations are the best.
You’d think the Sawx would sit Ortiz, and swap Lowell in there by now.
Maddon has to get THROWN OUT on that call. He didn’t even put up much of a fight!
Disgraceful job by the umps in Tampa
Zach in Port Jeff
August 4th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Lol. Welcome to the AL East Jarrod Washburn.
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I was thinking the same thing. You got three hitter friendly ballparks fenway, camden yards and the new yankee stadium and every team in the division has a good lineup. Washburn era would be close to 4
marcusk
August 4th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Well, the umpires didn’t screw up. Apparantly the play in the Rays-Sox game is a ground rule not a judgement play. the announcers just said this. It was a dead ball and the runners had to go back.
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That explanation is BS. Dead ball plays still allow for judgment based on where the runners are at the time of the dead ball. I’ve seen it before. Home being awarded on a ground rule double with a runner beginning on first.
Maybe dead balls are different, but I doubt it.
oh crap.
Tampa can’t get the big hit against the RS. They’ll lose.
ask and ye shall receive. Shoulda kept my mouth shut.
walking a .300 hitter to get to a .302 hitter? I don’t get it.
It’s really hard to dislike Mike Lowell.
Where is Victor Martinez? Is he playing today?
dead ball = dead in your tracks.
Zobrist was headed home. You get the base you are going to.
That explanation they gave is incorrect
“Tampa can’t get the big hit against the RS. They’ll lose.”
Nah
Who is this Reddick guy?
NGB
August 4th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
dead ball = dead in your tracks.
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in your tracks with the runner past 3rd base is sent home then.
Okay what they need now is a pop up and then a ground out.
Is he another sox prospect?
VMart’s at first.
tishbi
August 4th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Who is this Reddick guy?
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Just another loser the RS bring up and he actually helps them, unlike Cody Ransom
that’s what you get for having crap on the field.
awesome d.p. right there!
YEAAAAA! DP~!!!!!!!!
Or a DP!
Troll hits into a DP
DP for Hobbit
We cant touch JP Howel, hope the Sox cant either.
Elf grounds into a DP. There is hope!
Whew DP Pedroia.
love when it’s the troll hitting into the dp, too
Now how’s about a walk off homer. I want to watch some mindless television! (No, this isn’t mindless tv!)
Who’s a bigger whining crybaby? Youkilis or Pedroia? It’s such a tough call.
I guess Frodo Baggins lost his magical ring.
The Rays annoncers claim that Reddick can really swing the bat. How old is he?
FYI – new thread is up.
“Who is this Reddick guy?”
Reddick is a good prospect. CF. Toolsy. Athletic. He was having an ok season in AA. Surprised they called him up.
He’s talented. But still developing. But they decided to jump him a level.
He might have moved past lars anderson as the sox top position prospect. Though that has a lot to do with anderson’s stock dropping.
“I guess Frodo Baggins lost his magical ring.”
DON’T LEAVE THIS DAMN THREAD!!!
Who cares about a new thread. Wait til this game is over.
Thanks CB, guess thats another prospect for the sox. I’m jealous at thier farm system.
YAHOO!!!!
Don’t ya think someone should get a run in from third???
TB w/runners on 2nd and 3rd nobody out in the 10h….
Come on Rays win it here !
OK, leadoff man on. Oh, but here comes swing for the fences Carlos Pena…
“I’m jealous at thier farm system.”
Why they just trade them all to the Pirates, lol?
You can see why they pitched to Upton. But maybe he can make them pay…
Ok, theyre in business. Last time they couldnt scratch out a run, hope this time they have better AB’s.
redemtion time for Gabe Gross
Their pitcher has to be tired. It has to happen now.
Gabe Gross sucks!
I thought the Rays are supposed to be great with the situationa/ small ball game.
Ugh
Okay it is going to happen now…
Not for nothing but I am happy Navarro is out.
Tell me this isn’t happening!
bases loaded no outs… if they don’t score… it will be stunning
Are they still thinking about the lodged ball?
Thats why theyre the 3d best team in the AL east.
Unbelievable.
sigh….
tishbi
August 4th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
The Rays annoncers claim that Reddick can really swing the bat. How old is he?
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Reddick is a solid bat in the minors with some power and speed….good glove and 22 years old.
This is just wrong. It’s one of those games that you so don’t want to turn around and point to those flippin innings…
The Rays ain’t what they were last year…. not in a NY nanosecond. Last year, they would have put away this win by now. Even against the Sox. Always a good omen for the Yanks.
I hate both of these teams………..But mostly the Sox
Twice basses loaded and no outs, and nothing to show for it.
Thanks GB, its sad that they keep parading prospects and we make trades for Hinske and Hairston.
V-mart is a huge addition to the Sox, and this is not an overstatment.
Randy Choate gettin ready. Being that hes an ex-Yankee he’ll probably give up the lead.
Well here’s a way to look at it so far. Even though we wanted the Rays to take the game, don’t forget that the more beat up the Sux players are the better. So maybe it’s meant for these games to be lengthy with the Rays hopefully the victors so things will be better for us when the Sux hit the Bronx…
Always trying to look for a silver lining.
Ha ha fatso.
tishbi
August 4th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Thanks GB, its sad that they keep parading prospects and we make trades for Hinske and Hairston.
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If he really is as good as he’s shown, he slipped through a lot of fingers. He was a 17th round pick in 2006. Maybe a late bloomer, but, he hasn’t disappointed anywhere he’s gone. 3 years and averaging .300 and about 18 homers and 10 steals a year in 3 minor league seasons. Doesn’t walk much, but, doesn’t strike out much, either.
A nice long Sox Rays game is fine by me as well with the Rays winning. Tire out the bullpens, making them use a lot of pitchers both games.
Sox need this one too, Penny versus Price, you have to feel the Rays are in good shape for that one if Price can pitch like he did in his last start
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