Game 107: Yankees at Blue Jays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 05, 2009 
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YANKEES (64-42)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pitching: RHP Sergio Mitre (1-0, 7.80).
BLUE JAYS (51-55)
Scutaro SS
Hill 2B
Lind DH
Overbay 1B
Wells CF
Rios RF
Encarnacion 3B
Barajas C
Inglett LF
Pitching: LHP Mark Rzepczynski (1-2, 3.25).
TIME/TV: 7:07 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are 4-4 on a road trip that ends tonight. They started the trip with a 2.5 game lead on Boston and they’re 1.5 games up going into tonight’s action. The Yankees have won two straight after losing three in a row.
BEATING THE BLUE JAYS: The Yankees are 6-2 against Toronto this season and have won 25 of the last 41,
OH (NO) SERGIO: Mitre has allowed nine runs on 16 hits in his last two innings. Opponents have hit .393 against him in his three starts this season.
MANAGING MO: Mariano Rivera has worked 1+ innings nine times this season including three of his last four appearances. Rivera worked more than one inning 14 times last season. In 2007, when Joe Torre was manager, Rivera worked more than one inning 13 times.
MO’S STREAK: Rivera has gone 19.1 innings without allowing a run.
PHILTHY PHIL: Phil Hughes has 37 strikeouts in 29.1 innings of relief.
WHERE HAVE YOU GONE, ALFREDO ACEVES? A BULLPEN TURNS ITS LONELY EYES TO YOU: Alfredo Aceves has pitched twice in the last 13 games. The official party line that his shoulder feels fine might be a fib. Hard to believe, I know.
WOO WOO WOO: Had to say it.
TEX MESSAGE: Mark Teixeira is 11 of 34 on the road trip with six RBI.
NO CLOWNING AROUND: A-Rod is 13 of 34 on the trip with five RBI. He has gone 57 at-bats without a home run, however. The Killebrew Kurse is a strong one.
BREAK DANCE: The Yankees are 13-5 since the All-Star break. Only the Angels (14-4) have been better in the AL.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Lonely Teardrops by the great Jackie Wilson.
Back later with more.
UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.
UPDATE, 5:41 p.m.: Girardi said they wanted the extra pitcher for tonight to protect the bullpen. They’ll add a position player soon enough. “Could be one day,” the manager said.
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.
UPDATE, 6:51 p.m.: The Yankees have signed Russ Ortiz to a minor-league deal and sent him to Scranton. He was 3-6, 5.57 for Houston.
UPDATE, 7:07 p.m.: We are underway in Toronto. 75 degrees and the roof is open at the Rogers Centre. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: It’s Sergio Mitre’s world and we’re all just living in it.
UPDATE, 7:22 p.m.: Spoke too soon. The parade of hit has started. First and third, two outs for Wells.
UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: Another single and it’s 1-0 Jays. 14.1 innings, 27 hits for Mitre.
UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: 28 hits and it’s 2-0. Here comes Dave Eiland. The Yankees probably can’t keep running this guy out there. These next few innings probably will decide his immediate future.
UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: Remember all the (justified) carping about Bobby Meacham last season? Rob Thomson is a heck of a third base coach, isn’t he? He always seems to make the right call.
Yankees tie it up 2-2. Nine more and that should be enough for Mitre.
UPDATE, 8:02 p.m.: A-Rod has gone 59 at-bats without a home run, his longest streak as a Yankee.
UPDATE, 8:11 p.m.: Jose Molina loves throwing the ball behind the runner at first. Paid off that time. 2-2 into the fourth.
UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Melky 0 for 6 since the cycle. … Meanwhile Rirserzynksityh or however you spell his name is going to hang one of those curveballs eventually and somebody will clobber it.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Sergio Mitre leaves with the Yankees down 3-2. Better than expected, probably.
His line in four starts: 18 innings, 32 hits, 15 earned runs, 6 walks, 9 strikeouts. You can’t last long with a 2.11 WHIP in this league. Or any league.
UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: Via the Yanks: The team will pay tribute to Muhammad Ali prior to the game tomorrow night.
Swish just tied it up with a bomb to left. I called it on Twitter an hour ago.
UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: Impressive rally there as the Yankees send 10 men to the plate and score four runs on five hits. Nine outs to get and they’d prefer not to use Mariano. Big spot for Aceves, who should be able to give them another inning or two.
UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: So much for that. Ace gives up a bomb, gets an out and that’s it.
For those of you scoring at home (and congrats on that), A-Rod is now the 3B, the Yankees have given up their DH and the pitcher is in the No. 8 slot in the batting order.
UPDATE, 10:09 p.m.: That home run by Damon could save Mo. Dave Robertson out to finish it off.
Back later with reaction. Finishing the road trip with three straight wins would be huge. The Yankees left New York with a 2.5 game lead and they could return with the same if Tampa finishes off Boston. Hard to ask for more than that.
Here’s who is in so far for “Guess the Line Up”
This is the FINAL CALL. No Submissions after 3:40
WTTCTOHA
Andrew
L to the 2nd, Upstate Kate
Patrick (the Prospect Hugger), Rebecca, Henner (same)
NYY626
Roger Maris
Largo, Joey Vegas
Dan the Man
Bru
Fran
RayVT
Ben
RalphieD
Jon Locke, DurhamYankee, YankeeRay, CM (same)
Jude
Jeter – SS
Damon – LF
Tex – 1B
ARod – DH
Cano – 2B
Swisher – RF
Melky – CF
Hairston – 3B
Molina – C
Erica, buying baseball tickets on StubHub is simple. You usually get a great deal too…especially if you buy them the day of the game. I say usually because I’m not sure that will be the case with Boston. But if you want to go see the Twins on a Wednesday night you’ll get tickets for 40 cents on the dollar. They’re usually at their cheapest around 1pm. But sometimes you’ll find real cheap seats early in the morning. if you do, jump on them before someone else does.
Mitre gives 7 strong tonight baby!!!!!!!!
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hinske RF
REPOST **
Bam Bam Duncan
last 10 games .161
post ASB .197/.310/.410
RISP .248 AVG
how does he help us?
are we still playing that line-up game?
SS Jeter
LF Damon
1B Tex
3B Alex
DH Matsui
4B Posada
2B Cano
RF Hairston
CF Cabrera
Jeter – SS
Damon – LF
Tex – 1B
ARod – DH
Posada – C
Cano – 2B
Swisher – RF
Melky – CF
Hairston – 3B
Tom in NJ- You are the only person giving Hinske a start tonight. You are either a genius or very wrong
Yanksfan- got it
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
As I said on the other thread, Aceves might be a concern.
So who’s down for Claggett?
“jake [bring back shelley]
August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
no, Brandon I’m awesome etc. etc…
Shelley Duncan gives a TON of pop off the bench compared to a ramiro pena or cody ransom. We have hariston who can play 2nd,3rd,short, or OF. Hinkse, Duncan, Swisher can play first, Hinske and Duncan can play any OF spots except Center where Damon or Hariston can play if we needed them to in a pinch.
Duncan gives the team a lot to play with still, but has a LOT better Bat.”
Bam Bam Duncan
last 10 games .161
post ASB .197/.310/.410
RISP .248 AVG
how does he help us?
“Bam Bam Duncan
last 10 games .161″
Almost as bad as Pena’s last 10 games.
Most likely very wrong Erica.
But, beter to be spectacularly wrong then almost right.
Besides, many people post the same lineup…
“Almost as bad as Pena’s last 10 games.”
except he can defend and run…what does Bam Bam do?
Tom-
Actually very few repeats today. But people have Hairston playing every position but sideways
Saucy, Blackaccord, and Miggs. You are in. Just in time
Erica am I in?
Jeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 0, Swisher 9, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hairston 5, Molina 2, Mitre 1.
RT @Ledger_YankeesJeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 0, Swisher 9, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hairston 5, Molina 2, Mitre 1. Ransom may be outta here. –Carig
I got A-Rod as DH right!!
Confetti falls, Claggett rises
August 5, 2009
They are opening the roof here at the Rogers Centre – it is a gorgeous, sunny day in Toronto with a nice hint of a cool breeze. Anyway, as the roof opened, some pieces of colored, glittery paper doubtless left over from a previous, probably non-baseball event here fluttered down through the air. There are some kids shagging in the outfield for a civilian who is taking batting practice and the kids started leaping for the paper as it cascaded down. Nice scene.
Side note, which I’m sure we’ll find out more about when the clubhouse opens in a few minutes – Anthony Claggett is standing on the field with Phil Coke, chatting amiably. Apparently, the Yanks have called him up. Will fill you in with more details as they emerge.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0NL6gOeHQ
miggs
Why the hostility? It’s just a blog, and I admitted that my remarks were harsh. Calm Down ! Do you like Ransom that much?
Repost
This is the final list of entries for “Guess the Line Up”.
No new entries. The submission window is closed.
We should have a winner soon
WTTCTOHA
Andrew, Blackaccord (same)
L to the 2nd, Upstate Kate, Miggs (same)
Patrick (the Prospect Hugger), Rebecca, Henner (same)
NYY626
Roger Maris
Largo, Joey Vegas
Dan the Man
Bru
Fran
RayVT
Ben
RalphieD
Jon Locke, DurhamYankee, YankeeRay, CM
Jude
Yanks Fan
Tom in NJ
Saucy
Congratulations go out to the following 4 winners of “Guess the Line Up”!!
Jon Locke 2:49
Durham Yankee 3:14
YankeeRay 3:22
CM 3:28
Congratulations to our winners!!! Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”
Updated standings to follow in a few minutes
“WOO WOO WOO: Had to say it. ”
Pete is hilarious. Love it.
sweeny murti is reporting Ransom is out
Ransom is gone
Pete-Nice musical selection on the IPOD. Can not go wrong w/Jackie. Could this song be your tribute to Ransom, j/k
The other night when Cody entered the game as a pinch runner, I had a funny feeling that would be his last appearance as a Yankee.
GUESS THE LINE UP STANDINGS!!!!
Here are the current standings for “Guess the Line Up”.
After 12 rounds, there have been 21 different winners as follows:
Patrick the Prospect Hugger 2 Wins 7/27,7/17
Ramey 2 Wins 7/22, 7/21
Yanksfan 2 Wins 7/28, 7/29
IDCWYT 7/28
NoHype 7/28
Andrew 7/27
Bill 7/27
BBfan 7/27
Henner 7/27
Eights 7/27
RS 7/24
WTTCTOH 7/24
86w183 7/23
Miggs 7/23
Hokiehill 7/22
ePic 7/29
NYY626 8/4
Jon Locke 8/5
Durham Yankee 8/5
YankeeRay 8/5
CM 8/5
Joe Girardi (no winner) 7/30, 7/31
Can I pop the cork on my DFA RANSOM bottle of bubbly???
UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.
Sad for the guy but not sad for the team.
Cody, good luck.
Yay for Ransom!!
See you again in a few weeks when nobody claims you and you’re back up in September.
I was able to buy $120 seats for $35. (day of game). Then they added $5 each just to print them on my PC plus other misc taxes, etc. Still, the final ticket cost was abt $45 each by 3rd base just underneath the overhang.
Of course, that was on StudHub!
bye cody…you had a good run last year and a terrible crawl this year…hope things work out for you
Can the Jays shut down the NL-like lineup with Jeter, Damon, Teixeira, and A. Rod in it?
When I have a drink tonight I’ll pour one for my fallen homie – Cody Ransom.
Ryan Freel was just DFA’d…great.
Hey for a guy with limited ability Ransom did manage to make the New York Yankees. It’s more than I was ever able to accomplish on a baseball field.
Good luck, Cody.
Best wishes to Cody Ransom.
Ransom DFA
not a difference maker
he will not be missed
Nick in SF?, that was cold.
We will miss your unbelievable leaping skills, Cody.
do we start a pool on the date Ransom makes his first start for the Mets?
I’ll go with Saturday
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Nick in SF?, that was cold.
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If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid
Ransom had more of a baseball career than anyone posting here. Just saying.
Erica! Did I miss something???
Rayvt
August 5th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
ARod DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Well I haven’t been on this blog in a while. Found out Ransom got DFA’d. Great and good luck to him.
pat: that doesn’t disqualify us from calling him a bum, or a belly-itcher.
Cody Ransom has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than the All-Time HR Leader*
so he has that going for him
Ransom’s my favorite player on the team. I thought for sure he’s break out and be a real All-Star.
This blog wouldn’t get many comments if only major league quality (or Ransom quality) athletes could post.
‘not a difference maker’ is nicer than ‘negative difference maker’, isn’t it?
Good luck to Cody Ransom and we will all miss seeing this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XZX946hWI
Just give Ransom directions to the No. 7 train.
It’ll be quicker that way.
He’ll also probably be on the DL within 3 days – The Curse of George Theodore I tell ya!
Frank,
That $5 fee to print them is way better than the fees they used to charge for the tickets to be overnighted.
I will make Cody Ransom a deal. He can come to my softball games and heckle me when I make an error, as long as I can call him a bum on the internet.
“L to the 2nd
August 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Just give Ransom directions to the No. 7 train.”
I would certainly rank playing for the NY Yankees as the very top of anyone’s career.
So, I hope that all of you guys who have critiqued Cody Ransom so very harshly can look in your own life’s mirror and say that YOU reached the very top of your profession.
Cody was a stand up guy who gave everything. Actually, one of the good guys on the team.
Flipping Swisher and Cano destroyed my 3rd victory. I would have rather gotten the line up completely wrong.
Nobody’s saying he isn’t a good guy – he probably is.
Too bad he sucked.
“If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid”
And?
RayVT-
No, for some reason I wrote that you had Hairston playing RF. I went back to your original post. You are absolutely correct. I am so sorry
Everyone-
We have one additional winner for “Guess the Line Up”. RayVT won as well!!
I will update my standings now
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
“If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid”
And?
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Just pointing out the pot calling the kettle black!
Jerkface
I don’t make a habit of calling anyone a bum or a belly itcher but particularly not someone who can say he was the starting 3B for the NY Yankees on the day the new Stadium opened.
“This blog wouldn’t get many comments if only major league quality (or Ransom quality) athletes could post.”
Nick, this blog would be Pat M talking to himself. I’d still read it, however.
I’d rather see them bring up Russo than Pena (only @ .240 in SWB), but 40 man probably dictates.
People can knock Ransom all they want, but, he was directly responsible for 3 wins, this year against Cleveland in April, Atlanta in June and the Twins in July.
Whose frigid?
Here’s a relief pitcher probably put thru waivers and should clear, Shell out some $$$$$$.
Francisco Cordero rhp
4 years/$46M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option
4 years/$46M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option
signed by Cincinnati as a free agent 11/28/07
$0.5M signing bonus
08:$8.5M, 09:$12M, 10:$12M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M club option ($1M buyout)
full no-trade clause 2008-09, limited no-trade clause thereafter
award bonuses: $25,000 for All Star selection; $50,000 for LCS MVP; $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.1M for Rolaids ($75,000 for 2nd place, $50,000 for 3rd)
Hate to say “I told you so” but Stubhub now only has 800+ tickets available for tomorrow Sox game.
Prices are WAY more expensive than they were yesterday. Hope everyone wanting to go to that game took my advice and got their tix already. Unless you like spending 3x face value.
Can’t wait til the last minute on these premium games, you’ll only get burned.
Hey pat, that’s a pretty good future trivia question
Cody Ransom DFA…today is a good day
I don’t make a habit of calling anyone a bum or a belly itcher but particularly not someone who can say he was the starting 3B for the NY Yankees on the day the new Stadium opened.
—
One day I am gonna look back on this season and ask my friends, ‘Remember that belly itcher who started at third when the new stadium opened?”
Cody Ransom is trivia. He isn’t major league quality baseball player.
Best of luck to Ransom. He was somewhat like an Andy Phillips type player, but more versatile and less skillful. Hopefully, if he is outrighted to Triple-A, he can improve and make a difference for Scranton. If he does that, than he can help himself in spring training and help his reputation.
Cody may be a nice guy but it’s about results. Cody can’t produce so he has to go.
Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?
GB7, Glad to see you here. I’m off for the evening (in Europe) but wanted to repost from a thread early this morning and ask your help:
Iconoclast
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 am
GB7 – If you’re there today, maybe you could help me with a question, please?
I realize that very few pitchers make the jump from AA to the majors and that McAllister is, in any case, apparently out for the rest of the year. However didn’t the Yankees Rollie Sheldon go direct from AA to the Yanks in the early 60’s? I believe he went something like 11 – 6.
I know that he subsequently had a very short career – 4 or 5 years. Could you tell me/us why?
Thanks
Or maybe we can get one of these winners on the Reds!!!
Aaron Harang rhp
4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option
re-signed by Cincinnati 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.5M-$4.25M)
07:$4.25M, 08:$6.75M, 09:$11M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M ($2M buyout)
2011 option increases to $13M with 210 IP in 2010
if traded, 2011 option becomes mutual option at $14M ($2.5M buyout)
Bronson Arroyo rhp
2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
signed extension with Cincinnati 2/07
$2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)
09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal
miggs, I’ll be at the game tomorrow but I’ve had my tickets for months.
Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?
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Flowchart
Did the yankees lose? Yes -> Did Cody Ransom Play? Yes -> Count it!
#23 Hitman
August 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?
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Less than Jeter, less than Rodriguez, less than Cano, etc.
He didn’t provide a lot of production, but his RBIs and runs scored in those three games provided the margin of difference.
“Just pointing out the pot calling the kettle black!”
Nick is Mr.Funny…that’s rare for him to rip a player. He winded back and gave a swift kick to Cody Ransom, I’ve never seen him do that and we had sunglasses pitching for use last season.
Slade Heathcott…that’s just his porn name, right?
FYI- For all you people checking stubhub for tickets this weekend, keep checking..
Tickets will drop drastically between 3-5 PM on the day of the game (well for Thurs/Fri)..
I’m sure not many of you want to spend $100 per bleacher seat right now.. I’m a season ticket holder and I know for a fact these tix will drop close to game time..
Of course if you are traveling and need them quicker, you may be not find a great deal right now..
Also check e-bay, sometimes it’s a lot cheaper and you don’t pay any extra fees.
Iconoclast
August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
GB7, Glad to see you here. I’m off for the evening (in Europe) but wanted to repost from a thread early this morning and ask your help:
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I answered that earlier, Ico. I’ll go back and copy it in a second.
The Red Sox are reportedly calling up Billy Traber from Triple-A Pawtucket.
The team’s bullpen is thin after Tuesday’s 13-inning loss to the Rays, so Traber will provide some depth. No word yet on a corresponding roster move
Now watch how he will become an allstar in the redsox bullpen
“People can knock Ransom all they want”
Thanks you! Finally someone gets it.
“I’d rather see them bring up Russo than Pena (only @ .240 in SWB), but 40 man probably dictates.”
Pena is batting above .300 away from Scranton, he just hates it there.LOL
Jerface
Cody sucked. I don’t know why everyone who said that Cody shouldn’t be on this team is now getting attacked. The team will be better because of this move.
Erica – always OPPC
August 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Thank-you Erica!
Iconoclast
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 am
GB7 – If you’re there today, maybe you could help me with a question, please?
I realize that very few pitchers make the jump from AA to the majors and that McAllister is, in any case, apparently out for the rest of the year. However didn’t the Yankees Rollie Sheldon go direct from AA to the Yanks in the early 60’s? I believe he went something like 11 – 6.
I know that he subsequently had a very short career – 4 or 5 years. Could you tell me/us why?
Thanks
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Roland Sheldon came out of a Class D leadue (equivelant to Charleston of the Sally League now). This was after one year in the majors. Because of the depth of the rotation the next year, Sheldon bounced between relief and starting and was ineffective in 1962. In 1963 he was sent back to the minors. After that, he bounced around.
I didn’t say that McAllister was finished for the year, only that he’d been shut down since 11 July for a tired arm. He should be pitching soon.
Patrick I’m going Friday night courtesy of a friend’s corporate box.
I don’t mess with StubHub when it comes to premium games.
I’m much more likely to exploit that system for a Tuesday night game against the Mariners. Not an August weekend series against the Sox.
Nick LOL what did Cody ever do to you.
GB7…..I’ll give you those three games. But how many more did he play in that he played just downright awful? Not digging the guy, but this team got a lot better when Hairston got moved and finally Ransom was DFA’d.
Nick in SF
August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
“People can knock Ransom all they want”
Thanks you! Finally someone gets it.
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Taken just a little out of context, though, wouldn’t you say?
Anyone see that Curt Schilling has changed his hardline stance on steroid users? No call to “take away accomplishments” like he said with Bonds, or to not “trust anything that happened after” Manny’s & Otriz’s steroid use, like he suggested with Clemens. Who knew that Curt was just a big lying phoney? Shocking…
Ransom played his way out of a job on the Yankees roster. Plain and simple.
If he ends up in AAA, then I’m ok with that. We could always use his help in about a month when the roster expands.
Joe, do you have a link? I would love to fwd that to my annoying, Boston-loving co-workers!
More on Roland Sheldon:
http://www.baseball-reference......ro01.shtml
Joe, do you have a link? I would love to fwd that to my annoying, Boston-loving co-workers!
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Check the front page of a little known website named n o m a a s . org
They blasted schilling pretty good with all of his quotes dated
Ransom was probably given a ticket to Newark Liberty and a Metro card.
If anybody sees him wandering around lost in Bed-Stuy or Far Rockaway, kindly advise him to use the B-D-or 4 train and get back to the Bronx to pick up his personal items.
Another likely pitcher to be on waivers as we speak, and whose salary will be dumped on the first to claim him!!!
Paul Maholm lhp
3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option
3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option
signed extension with Pittsburgh 1/30/09 (avoided arbitration, $3.8M-$2.65M)
$1.5M signing bonus
09:$2M, 10:$4.5M, 11:$5.75M, 12:$9.75M club option ($0.75M buyout)
2012 option may increase by $1.3M to $11.05M based on performance
award bonuses
Don’t want to spend any money-there’s Sidney Ponson!!! LOL
Will the Steinbrenners expand the payroll to help bring a championship this year?????
#23 Hitman
August 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
GB7…..I’ll give you those three games. But how many more did he play in that he played just downright awful? Not digging the guy, but this team got a lot better when Hairston got moved and finally Ransom was DFA’d.
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He’s no more solely responsible for losses than his is for wins. 11 losses, 20 wins in his games. Which ones does he get get credit or blamed for?
Cody seemed like a good guy and quite an athelete, but he didn’t play well and the Yanks had better options.
It is hard to quantify how any player helps or hurts a team because of the unknowns. Would Joe G play a better option. Would the oposing team make a change. etc.
That said, Cody will find a spot somewhere if not across town. I wish him the best.
“FYI- For all you people checking stubhub for tickets this weekend, keep checking..
Tickets will drop drastically between 3-5 PM on the day of the game (well for Thurs/Fri)..”
John I’ll put this as nicely as I can….. you have NO CLUE.
Tickets only drop at the last minute when there are a lot available for non-premium games.
Yesterday at this time there were 1800+ tickets available for Thursday’s game. Today there are 800+ and those tickets are way more expensive than those SAME tickets were yesterday.
By the time it hits 4 PM tomorrow the few tickets that are left will be even more expensive than they are now (if there are any left at all).
Its simple supply demand.
Anyone that wants to go tomorrow night better get in the stick immediately or risk not having any shot at obtaining any tickets at all.
They sold 100+ tickets in the last 24 hours. What makesyou think those last 800 tickets willlast abother 24 hours?
Use your head man. This isn’t complicated.
This team is a lot better, now that the bench has been addressed!!
Thanks jerkface!!!
About time Ransom was DFA’d. He’s been one of the worst players in baseball and it was unbelievable he got ANY playing at all.
“last 10 games .161
post ASB .197/.310/.410
RISP .248 AVG
how does he help us?”
forget the last 10 games his career slg percentage vs. LHP is over .520 and only Tex has more homers in the organization than Shelly…which is why it made ABSOLUTELY no sense to choose to keep Ransom on the roster over Shelly last wknd in Chi when you were facing 4 LHPs in a 4 game series after Cash made the move for Hairston….dumb move and it makes me think that Girardi has something personal against Shelly…it’s got to be….calling up Clagget makes no sense either unless Aceves has to be DL’ed because there are 3 RHRP(Bruney,Robertson,Melancon) whom he almost never uses anyway….i would like to see Cash overule him on some of these roster moves and Bring Shelly up leave Pena down to play everyday and develop his bat and OF skills more until sept 1 because Hairston is going to play ahead of Pena anyway so what’s the point in him watching games in the BX better for him to be playing in Scranton….plus Shelley’s EARNED IT!!!!
1000+ tickets in last 24 hours not 100+
Say what you want about Cody Ransom ( and most of you have), but the guy played for the NY Yankees. And You ?
Ransom has a lucrative career as the backup in any side scrolling Donkey Kong video game. man can he jump a barrel
UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Oh my goodness gracious, is it now required to say what a great guy Cody Ransom is and how neat it was for thim that he got to play in pinstripes and that I wish him well etc. before saying I’m glad he isn’t on our team anymore?
I have nothing against Cody Ransom; it’s the forces that put him on the team I root for that I take issue with.
Ransom just wasn’t that good even as a 25th man. But I appreciate the (few) positive contributions he made.
I saw him play as a San Francisco Baseball Giant and he wasn’t good enough to make it there either.
On a personal level, I imagine it must be hard to be one of the very best baseball players in the world and yet not be good enough to stick with the major league team that was employing you.
It’s all about perspective. Cody was very well paid for his services and I think he gets to keep the money he was paid. Maybe now he can stick with yet another team.
Goodbye and good luck.
Hmm that brings up a good point. Should Cody Ransom be allowed to keep all the money he made? Maybe we could make him give it back somehow
Ramiro Pena’s defense is going to improve this team so much. Sitting Jeter/Cano/A-Rod wont be so hard on me soul anymore. The bench will be nice.
it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.
It isn’t Ransom’s fault that he isn’t a star or anything more than a borderline major league player. He plays as hard as he can and contributes to the level of his ability.
But to see the abuse on this board and the constant whining and complaining about him as soon as his name is in the lineup once a week is pathetic and shows how shallow you support of the Yankees really is.
I think this thread might break the Guinness record for the most posts dedicated to Cody Ransom.
That’s not a good thing, by the way.
He’s gone, everyone’s happy. We get it.
it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.
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Almost as embarrassing as Cody Ransom’s level of play
Yeah he played for the Yankees and was terrible, Whats your point?
LOL Nick, ok I feel ya.
champ809, please give it rest w/ Shelley Duncan, you know who else was once Shelley, Shane Spencer, only he was an actual MLB player, Shelley is a AAAA player nothing more.
Did anyone see that the Red Sox backed out of an agreement with a prospect named Payano? They said he didn’t pass a physical. Boy that name is so close to … well you know!
Nobody’s claiming that Ransom was the best option now for NYY. His defense at third wasn’t good, though it was good at the other positions. Guess what? Pena’s defense at third base stunk, too. NYY has better options now than at the beginning of the year. Short of raiding the minor league system and getting held up for a third baseman in a trade, they made do. It was better than trading a young pitcher Jackson to Seattle for Belte’s injury filled season and big contract…and that was the option.
1. Hopefully, Mitre is great and Claggett goes back to AAA tomorrow.
For all the Shelley haters, I ask this question.
How can you use stats on prospects in the minors for other players and then not use them for Shelley? He is blasting the ball down there. Chad Jennings over on the SWB board said that he hoped that Shelley would get another chance because he has earned it. He also said he wished people wouldn’t be so down on Shelley just because he had trouble adjusting last year to the ML. He said Shelley is different this year! Since he see a He__uva lot more games of him than the rest of us, I trust him more than this boards viewpoint. Should I remind everyone here of how many times the board has gone AWOL over Posada, Andy, Joba, Hughes, Jeter, ARod, Melky, Cano, ….
Shelley is crushing the ball, especially LHP. I would hope that someone of importance wouldn’t make a decision based on an at bat or one game about some of these guys. If that were the case, then Mantle, Williams, Ruth, ARod, Berra and others would have been DFA’d before they became stars.
“Taken just a little out of context, though, wouldn’t you say?”
Maybe it was circumstance or maybe it was Duncan not playing well but Joe G has never really used him when he’s been up over the last 2 years(this year 1 day). Could be he is not Joe’s type of player (versatile, athletic)?
Thanks to MarK Craig for this must read. I look forward to everyone’s reaction.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
No need to bemoan Cody Ransom. Players are fair with their teammates. He stands a chance of a good pro-rated World Series share.
“Shelley is crushing the ball, especially LHP”
Bam Bam Duncan
last 10 games .161
post ASB .197/.310/.410
RISP .248 AVG
Into outerspace I see.
the Yankees are in 1st place in the toughest division in MLB by 1 1/2 games.
If they had beaten the Sox 3 times when they had the game in hand they would be 7 1/2 games in front and no one would be concerned about either the #5 starter or the #25 guy on the roster.
Ransom had nothing to do with the losses in those 3 games, they were:
1. Mo blowing a save in the 9th inning on Bay’s HR
2. AJ blowing a 6-0 lead against Beckett the following day
3. Girardi making a bad decision to leave CC in the game in the 8th inning with the Yankees holding a 4-1 lead because he didn’t trust his 8th inning relievers.
The above is all part of baseball and something I’m pretty sure the Yankees won’t be doing during the 7 upcoming games in August against the Sox.
Ransom has been released and won’t take any more abuse on this blog but I’m sure there will be a new one very, very shortly. What a waste of blog space, though.
I don’t quite understand the love for Pena. He is a good glove at SS, but not at 3B or really 2B. He isn’t an OF yet although he may be okay later. He isn’t a hitter as he was exposed after a few at bats. He is an okay backup utility player, but nothing special.
Hairston can play everywhere Pena plays only better. He is also a better hitter. He is also a better baserunner. The Yanks don’t need 2 utility guys until maybe Septemeber when the rosters expand. The Yanks have need a RH power hitter which the Yanks have a few. Shelley is the only one who was brought up (1 game) for that slot and Joe Genius played Cody over him. I mean that is kind of crazy. Perhaps, Cashman was a bit upset that his waiver move was ignored for AKA Cody Ransom and DFA’d that choice away from Joe.
I’m not sure how many people on here would choose Cody over Shelley for a position that Shelley can play!
MG
August 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.
It isn’t Ransom’s fault that he isn’t a star or anything more than a borderline major league player. He plays as hard as he can and contributes to the level of his ability.
But to see the abuse on this board and the constant whining and complaining about him as soon as his name is in the lineup once a week is pathetic and shows how shallow you support of the Yankees really is.
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Hey, MG…can we DFA you? Make sure you don’t fall off that high horse. Laughable. This is a baseball blog, not Miss Emily Post’s Teahouse.
“Hairston can play everywhere Pena plays only better. He is also a better hitter. He is also a better baserunner.”
You get better defensively in more than 1 spot, how hard is that for you to realize?
As an OPPC poster – I can say this positively about Cody Ransom.
I liked his playing ability more than Angel Berroa.
Hey, if we’re dickering over who should be the 24th or 25th guy on the team, I’d say they’re doing OK…
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Could be the Mutts…
I love it how people have changed their minds about Ransom since he was DFA’d.
Every time Cody Ransom’s name is in the line, the only thing I hear is people complaining about how much they think he sucks and how he’s such a liability.
The minute he is DFA’d, the crowd changes and it becomes “Well, he wasn’t the greatest, but he tried his best.”
Come on. Each and every one of you is thankful he is gone, stop hiding behind your comments.
“Hey, MG…can we DFA you? Make sure you don’t fall off that high horse. Laughable. This is a baseball blog, not Miss Emily Post’s Teahouse.”
I laughed.
MG don’t take this personally but it was pretty funny..
Honestly, Cody Ransom is a bad player. That’s the simple truth, if you guys don’t want to hear it you probably shouldn’t be on a baseball blog. A lot of worse things are said around here.
No need to bemoan Cody Ransom. Players are fair with their teammates. He stands a chance of a good pro-rated World Series share.
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Cody Ransom should have to pay the yankees because of the profits he will invariably receive from the ‘Road to the World Series: 2009 Yankees Edition’ DVD and picture book set
Prediction:
10 days from now: Ransom signed a to a minor league contract by Mets, immediately brought up.
11 days from now: Ransom goes on the DL after slipping on a banana peel in the shower after tripping over Luis Castillo.
The beginning of the end, I fear.
I have enjoyed reading the posts on this site for more than a year. However, lately, the information sharing posts have not been all that interesting and insightful.
The regulars on here never disappoint.
However there are those on the fringe… posters like Jerkface need to clean it up & refrain from the atypical sophomoric behavior.
I see we have a particularly nasty group of people today. Shameful. Why you would want to come across as so crass doesn’t make sense to me. Guess you never lost a job.
if Duncan wasn’t a liability in the outfield he’d most likely be with the Yankees but where do you use him?
Hinkse is a better hitter and at least as good an outfielder (which isn’t saying much) and sits 5 nights a week.
So, if Duncan is on the roster, he and Hinske both play once every two weeks depending who is pitching.
Hairston doesn’t have power but can hit, run, looks like a really good 3rd baseman (maybe even better than Arod-certainly has more range) and can play the outfield. He was a perfect pickup for the Yankees for nothing.
I’d also like Pena on the roster until at least Gardner’s return, he gives them flexibility and can steal a base.
MG:
Hairston has 8 HRs. So does David Wright.
“Cody Ransom has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than the All-Time HR Leader*
so he has that going for him”
Actually this is wrong. Ransom’s name won’t even be on the voting list. So he will get zero votes. Bonds will be on the voting list. The writers can vote for him. He will get at least as much support as McGwire, and probably a good amount more. So, even if he doesn’t get in, his chance to get in is much much higher than Cody Ransom’s chances. Duh.
I see we have a particularly nasty group of people today. Shameful. Why you would want to come across as so crass doesn’t make sense to me. Guess you never lost a job.
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The difference between myself and Cody Ransom is that when I airmail something it doesn’t cost my company runs.
so I suppose the point of a baseball blog is to repeat the same complaints 50X a day, right?
very informative…
Ok, Evan Roberts is an idiot. Some caller called into Joe and Evan wondering what the Yankees’ record with CC and AJ on the mount are compared to the Sox’ with Beckett and Lester (implying that CC and AJ have not done a good job). The Yankees admittedly do not have a good record (I think .500) with CC on the mound, but how can Evan lump AJ with him? I don’t know it off hand but I believe the Yankees have a very good record in AJ’s starts. I don’t get how Evan can imply that AJ has generally not given the Yankees what they expected of him when actually I think he’s pitched far better than most people thought he would (and just came off a brilliant stretch of pitching). Don’t these guys think before they speak?
Cody Ransom is one of the only players in baseball with more than 50 PA’s and negative run values against more than 4 pitch types
-2.1 on Fastballs, -1.8 on sliders, -.1 on curves, -1.1 on changes, -.6 on knucklers
But it can be said that Cody Ransom once played professional baseball
“I love it how people have changed their minds about Ransom since he was DFA’d.
Every time Cody Ransom’s name is in the line, the only thing I hear is people complaining about how much they think he sucks and how he’s such a liability.
The minute he is DFA’d, the crowd changes and it becomes “Well, he wasn’t the greatest, but he tried his best.”
Come on. Each and every one of you is thankful he is gone, stop hiding behind your comments.”
Yeah, what the heck is this all about? Where was the love for Jose Veras when he was DFA’d? Nobody seemed to care. But now we should feel some big loss for Cody Ransom? Eh, I’m not so sure. I’m glad that he will no longer be hurting the Yankees. What the heck took so long? Ramiro Pena should have stayed over Ransom the whole time.
Backbench-
Enjoyed the article you attached at 4:40.
Dan Haren is the man. Glad we didn’t get Santana. Neftali Perez could be the next Zumaya. Skip Schumaker will make a good hitting coach someday.
The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.
Of course, that’s changed a bit since then. How many will deny saying it besides the original utterer?
Sorry I gotta agree with MG. Sure am happy Cody was DFA’ed but that does not mean you spend all this time berating him. MG has a point waste of space but also time and thought. What kind of jollies do you get kicking someone when they are down?
RAYVT
exactly my point! i’m not about to buy a Shelly Duncan jersey nor am i suggesting that he’s Pujols…but the #’s show that he can be a productive bat if given the chance…problem is guys like Brandon like to repeat terms like “AAAA player” without knowing what they really mean…did you know some genius chatboard GM like yourself once said “Ryan Ludwick is a AAAA player” until he got his opportunity at regular play and 500abs and he hit 37hrs and knocked in 120 @ 30 years of age btw…Casey Blake was thought to be a “AAAA” player by some as well until he finally got a shot at regular playing time and the rest is history…he btw was one of the best hitters last year w/risp…learn the game baby then come talk to me
Shelly’s #’s in ’07 74abs/7hrs/17rbis .554slg%…extrapolate that out over 500abs 40+hrs/100+rbis….maybe reaching to think that but i think he’d be just as good a hitter over a full season in the majors as he’s doing right now!
another question Gardners first shot how’d he look? overmatched! then he settled in became productive had a great spring won the starting CF job lost it because he again looked overmatched got his legs under him and now we see he clearly not only can be a productive player but in fact he is what he was in his minor league career as well…Shelley’s going to get his shot next year from someone i’d like it to be us and i think this team right now could use him…..imo
Yankee Trader
August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Backbench-
Enjoyed the article you attached at 4:40.
Dan Haren is the man. Glad we didn’t get Santana. Neftali Perez could be the next Zumaya. Skip Schumaker will make a good hitting coach someday.
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When NYY was looking at center fielders over te witer and this year, schumaker was the one that I wanted to see on the Yankees. Solid dfense and a good bat who could lead off or hit second.
Bringing Pena up before September serves zero purpose. Pena needs work on being a utility player & backup SS. He is young and needs to play. He isn’t a top prospect by any imagination. His upside is a utility player.
Hinske is a LH batter. Shelley is a RH batter. Both have trouble with pitchers that correlate with their batting stance. That is why Shelley was brought up. They could have brought up Juan Miranda, JRod or Shelley.
BTW, Hairston is a great base runner while Pena is slightly above average.
ransom dfa’d just MADE MY DAY!
i kinda feel bad for the guy and hope he gets another shot… but not on the yankees… i cant take anymore!!!!!
do you think we’ll see ramiro pena up to provide some speed off the bench for the sox series??
Not sure I understand the “flexibility” advantage of Pena being on the roster with Hairston on the team.
If Pena is on the team, the bench is Hairston, Hinske, Pena and Molina. What moves can we make with that which Pena’s flexibility assists?
I’m no big Duncan fan but he can hit it out against LHP. That’s worth a little, and balances Hinske.
Ransom is DFAd. We have not seen the last of him.
If no one claims him, h ewill go to Scraton and will be called up on 1st Sptember.
I wish him all the best.
He deserves to be DFAd based on performance, but the negativity about him here is just unbelievable.
I guess it is mostly kids, but you will know what it is like when you go through hard times.
“The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.”
LOL…wow. I don’t even remember that one. Wow. Anybody who ever thought the Yanks would have been better with Cody Ransom as opposed to ARod is just insane, and also probably knows nothing about baseball. I mean this is a pretty simple concept: All-Time Great Hitter > Cody Ransom
Trader:
Glad to do it. Here is Craig article that presents Andy’s strength and how Jose has been pushing.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....ettit.html
A little diversion from the Ransom crucifixion.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....-chat.html
lol at the name of the chat
Ransom had a firm handshake, looked you right in the eye, but he’s terrible
champ809
August 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I agree Champ! BTW, when Shelley played in 2006 the Yanks caught lightning in a bottle with him as he was very productive under a different Joe’s role!
Ransom can join Joey Gathright in the ‘hall of fame for people with incredible athletic talents not applicable to the game of baseball’
RayVt, bringing up Duncan provides the possibility of a low average hitter with power off the bench. He is a liability in the outfield, we both know that and would best be used against left handed pitchers.
He’d probably get 40 At bats the rest of the season, maximum. And, when Gardner comes back he’d be back in the minors until the September callups.
I just don’t see where it’s going to make a difference in the Yankees season. I also don’t see where you can extrapolate his 2007 stats to 2009 and ignore the 2008 stats, the best you can do is sum them and it then comes out about 25 HR’s, 75 RBI’s, 50 walks and 110 K’s. His onbase percentage is .299. Swisher has better numbers than that, plays almost passable defense in right field and 1st base, and is a switch hitter.
Wave Your Hat
August 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I seem to agree with you a lot!! LOL! I like your opinions!! LOL!
To the Duncan lovers: He can not be called up for 10 days since he was sent back. It has been only four days.
Yankees bullpen will dictate how deep their run into October will be…….Aceves health is of paramount importance…..Two arms must surface soon, real soon…..
Now that Ransom is gone who is your new whipping boy?
Two arms must surface soon, real soon
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Avast! A water spout, starboard! Yarr, its a spotted melancon!
who the hell is Shelley Duncan taking ABs away from
Bullet Bill
August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
“The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.”
LOL…wow. I don’t even remember that one. Wow. Anybody who ever thought the Yanks would have been better with Cody Ransom as opposed to ARod is just insane, and also probably knows nothing about baseball. I mean this is a pretty simple concept: All-Time Great Hitter > Cody Ransom
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It’s not that they don’t know baseball, it was immature, idiotic bias. They don’t like him because he colored the tips of his hair, used a tanning booth and took his shirt off in Central Park (when his family was present). This, of course, made him a phoney.
Now that Ransom is gone who is your new whipping boy?
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When does Brian Bruney pitch next?
Bullet Bill
August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Back in the Bash ARod era of this year there were quite a few people who were so down on ARod that they were saying play Pena or Ransom over him because they could at least play Defense. The same irrational words were also used for Jeter (who found his lost steps because he isn’t injured). Lastly, there was the we want Cervelli over Posada crew as well. If the fans on here were running things we’d have a lineup that hit .200 with no power and a great bullpen with not enough strating pitchers.
To those feeling Cody or his mom might be wounded by some of the comments being flung in Cody’s direction today-
Following the old adage “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” makes for a dull blog with very few comments, don’t you think?
In other news, if the Yanks send down the 13th pitcher they will call up Pena because they clearly want 2 back-up infielders on the roster and have since the beginning of the season.
Makes no sense to me but it must to the Yanks.
I’m in SUCH a happy mood! What a nice way to end last night – watching Evan Longoria do his thing.
I will quote from what I said in a post last night:
“Well here’s a way to look at it so far. Even though we wanted the Rays to take the game, don’t forget that the more beat up the Sux players are the better. So maybe it’s meant for these games to be lengthy with the Rays hopefully the victors so things will be better for us when the Sux hit the Bronx…
Always trying to look for a silver lining.”
That was after the Rays left the bases loaded for the second time. I believe in may have been in the 10th, don’t quite remember. And it turned out to be the case! The moral of the story is never despair until you know there is reason!!!!
Anyway, it certainly shouldn’t hurt that Penny is pitching (as opposed to pinching!) tonight.
I have faith in Sergio Mitre!
It really is fun going through life with a perpetual smile. Even though people think you’re daffy sometimes, it beats going through life with a perpetual frown, I do believe.
Okey dokey, finoke. Check you out later.
75% of LoHud commenters agreed that Cody Ransom was a better option at 3rd base than Arod?
Heck, I doubt the person who wrote that in the first place even believed it.
hallelujah….noransom.. the yanks do not like to embarras there players so they delayed the inevitable a few days..
go down to SWB and come up in sept. next roster move add either shelly or ramiro pena….
Are we sure the Yankees are ultimately going to recall Pena and not Shelly Duncan?
I’d like to continue to see Pena play every day until September 1st and of course, I’d love to see Shelly make it up to NY for the Boston series.
Nothing would hearten me more than to watch Shelly slide hard into 2nd base to disrupt a double-play and hear the crowd to erupt.
Never fails, post something tongue-in-cheek and someone w/zero sense of humor will take it and run w/it.
That’s the price one pays for refusing to use emoticons, I guess.
MG
August 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RayVt, bringing up Duncan provides the possibility of a low average hitter with power off the bench. He is a liability in the outfield, we both know that and would best be used against left handed pitchers.
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Ah, yes! The Yanks have been weak against LH pitching for years. ARod was the only RH hitter with pop last year and it hurt him as teams pitched around him. Shelley hits lefthanders well. Hinske hits RH pitchers well. You have a righty/lefty power PH tandem. Hairston is the guy who runs for them if they get on base and plays defense for them.
Pat M-
The bullpen may not be all that necessary for October success.
If the Yanks finish with the best record, they can choose the “stretched out” division championship series with extra off days, meaning they can get away with three starters, with Hughes and Joba/Andy in the pen. That will be good enough.
The WS is stretched out enough that they could do the same thing with the #1 pitcher starting game 7 on short rest.
Just a thought.
Seriously, why are people defending the on-field Ransom? Because he was a nice guy? Because he was the 25th player (supposedly)? If that’s the case, sign me up to be the 25th player. I’ll suck but it won’t matter since I’m the 25th player. And people can’t be defending him because he’s in the majors and I’m not. Ransom SHOULD NOT be in the majors.
The goal of the 2009 Yankees is to win the World Series. Ransom is a roadblock to that goal. When a player that bad gets to play 1-3 times a week, that is not good. It is counter productive. Sure, his replacement won’t Alberto Pujols. But if it’s Pena than its somewhat who has a great glove and will be productive for his role. Not only was Ransom a bad hitter, but a horrible fielder.
This is a good day because the Yanks got better simply by DFA’ing someone.
And don’t confuse this with “negativity”. It’s just the truth. He was a bad baseball player. The Yanks released which is good for the team. End of story. That simple.
BBFan
August 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Actually, Shelley can come back if there is an injury before 10 days. Claggett might go on the DL! LOL!
My sincerest regrets and fondest wishes to Cody Ransom and his family. May he find work somewhere the rest of the season.
Who knows? If anymore Mets fall down the stairs, Ransom may find himself playing in the New Ebbets Field.
Talk about curses? To model a stadium on where the consummate cursed franchise, the Brooklyn Bums, used to play has to invite bad luck.
Wave Your Hat,
I agree with you. The 25th roster spot isn’t all that important but why have redundancies when you don’t have to? Hairston already covers whatever role Pena could cover if he were called up. At least Duncan can fill in occasionally vs a lefty pitcher and maybe pinch hit late in games.
Of the limited options in AAA, Duncan is the best choice.
From Tim McCarver via Justin Terranova and the NY Post (http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....ips_y.html)
The thought of limiting Chamberlain leaves FOX analyst and former major-leaguer Tim McCarver incredulous.
“I could go on for a half day about it,” McCarver said.
“They want to limit him to somewhere between 140-170 innings. You are fighting for a division, you are fighting for a pennant here — what are you taking about? Show me one doctor who has come up with conclusive evidence that a pitcher who is 24-years-old should throw only 140-170 innings. If he throws 190, what’s going to happen is his arm going to fall off? What’s the gage? It drives me up a wall.”
“It doesn’t sound like a team me that has said anything short of a World Championship is a disappointment to their fans,” McCarver said. “If you are going to have your best out there, Joba Chamberlain is going to have to pitch.”
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As much as I hate this guy, I kind of agree. I want to see Joba out there come playoff time. He’s just starting to show us how good he can be, and we’re contending for a title, he has to be in the rotation.
Seems like a good night to finish off Toronto and then onto the Boston series to get some redemption.
If Ransom or Pena were the answer for what the Yankees needed then they would not have traded for Hairston!
I take it Tim McCarver is not a big believer in the Verducci Effect, even though it has been proven time and time again.
Where’s Dion Sanders and his big bucket of water when you need him?
When does Brian Bruney pitch next?
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Girardi will have to see how far Mitre goes in the game. Hughes and Mariano may be held back for the Boston series leaving Robertson, Melancon, Bruney, Claggett, and for maybe one lefty batter, Coke.
Not sure if Aceves can be used yet.
Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.
RayVt, you are entitled to your opinion but the Yankees have murdered lefties this year with a .295 team batting average against them. This is very different than it has been for many years-they have Teix, Posada and Melky who all switch hit plus Matsui, Damon, and Cano all hit lefties very well. Last year, of that list, only Cano and Damon were healthy.
I could see this just now.
Yankees are down 3-2
On the bench Matsui-san, Hairston, Duncan, Posada & Nick Swisher…there’s a LHP it’s the 10th the Yankees tied it in the 9th. 7,8,9 are coming up and there’s 2 outs a runner on 1B…ofcourse he’d go to Shelley Duncan LOL over them all.
Brandon your point about the lst 10 days for Shelly is juvenile….example what’s Jorge’s #’s look like the last 10 days? all hitters go through slumps….and in Shelley’s case i think it maybe getting to him a lil bit that he hasn’t been called up and given a shot yet when all he’s done is carried the AAA team on his back all year and lead the international league in homers and rbis….
Wave, What you suggest about stretching out the pitching will work for the ALDS, which is absurdly long….Because of that TV obligation Game 7 is scheduled for Nov. 1st…..Also I agree with you about giving Duncan a shot at being a RH option off the bench….I thought when Kevin James arrived that Swisher could field that role…..A righthanded power stick is needed though, and has been needed since Sheffield left….
We should be thankful McCarver wasn’t saying that Joba should be in the bullpen.
Patrick-
I agree with you on Duncan but I forgot about the 10 day rule, which will keep the Yanks from calling him up. By the time the 10 days run hopefully Gardner will be close to coming back.
Duncan’s just in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong club for him, unfortunately for Shelley.
“They want to limit him to somewhere between 140-170 innings. You are fighting for a division, you are fighting for a pennant here — what are you taking about? Show me one doctor who has come up with conclusive evidence that a pitcher who is 24-years-old should throw only 140-170 innings. If he throws 190, what’s going to happen is his arm going to fall off? What’s the gage? It drives me up a wall.”
I guess McCarver hasn’t read Verducci article about pitchers under 25. Joba hasn’t pitched more than 112 innings in any season. To have him jump and pitch 200 plus innings this year would be foolish. Its not just Chamberlain, Phil Hughes is on an innings count too and he will be in the same situation as Joba is next year. Cashman needs to get another arm maybe someone like a Jon Garland.
Hey guys how do you think Cashman and Girardi are going to manage joba’s innings so he can be in the postseason rotation. A power pitcher with his stuff has to be in a postseason rotation.
I’ll ammend that. NYY has the better option at third now, until Hairston goes hitless for 25 at bats or makes two errors to cost a game. At that time, the complaints will start again. The same ones that are whining about not having Duncan recalled will whine when he strikes out 3 out of every 5 at bats and plods his wayt around right field.
I think it’s an odd coincidence that the Yanks are replacing Wang in the rotation with a guy who pitches exactly like CMW did in April (thigh-high ‘sinkers’ @91 mph).
I’m guessing nobody on Toronto is begging out of the lineup today.
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.
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People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.
“Shelley’s case i think it maybe getting to him a lil bit that he hasn’t been called up and given a shot yet when all he’s done is carried the AAA team on his back all year and lead the international league in homers and rbis….”
Yet this is who you want to PH? This isn’t AAA or AAAA, he’ll likely sit for a long span, and doesn’t have the numbers that show he’ll survive in that role. Jorge Vazquez I understand, Shelley no, I’m sorry his numbers don’t reflect that he will succeed in that role. And we saw this last yr. too.
Cashman has already said all the rules are out the window in a postseason scenario. Joba will be the 3rd or 4th starter in the postseason so its not like he will go 3 times in a series like CC or AJ.
But, beter to be spectacularly wrong then almost right
the line of the year.
People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.
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Could we have a .250 hitter and bronze glove winner?
With Matsui, Hairston, Duncan, Posada and Swisher on the bench there would only be 8 guys in the lineup. Unless you are talking about the world series and the pitcher is hitting.
The only time Duncan would pinch hit is in the following situations:
1. Hinske started the game and the opposition brings in a tough lefty – Duncan pinch hits and plays RF.
2. Molina starts the game and the opposition brings in a lefty – Duncan pinch hits.
Would you pinch hit him for anyone else on the roster? Maybe Hairston.
Otherwise Duncan gets a start here and there when a tough lefty is on the mound and Swisher or Damon needs a day off.
It’s not a lot of playing time but who else should the Yankees bring up? I’ve yet to see any valid alternatives.
“A righthanded power stick is needed though, and has been needed since Sheffield left”
Yes. That guy doesn’t have to be that good, just good enough to give the other manager some second thoughts about leaving in the LHP or bringing a LHP into the game, and give the Yanks a response.
“People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.”
Don’t forget win 20+ games, have a sub 2 era and throw shutouts every other day
Erica – always OPPC
August 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.
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People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.
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The option NYY was looking at was getting Adrian Beltre from Seattle for Jackson and a young pitcher and picking up a multi-million dollar contract….all for 10 weeks. Ironic that Beltre went down for hip surgery early this spring and just started playing again this week.
“Otherwise Duncan gets a start here and there when a tough lefty is on the mound and Swisher or Damon needs a day off.”
Now he’s gonna start? The Red Sox won’t start his brother and he’s better than him.
Jerkface
August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.
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Could we have a .250 hitter and bronze glove winner?
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I didn’t realize he was hitting only .190. Yipes.
I wish Cody the best. I hope he is very happy with the Mets
Ænima
August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I take it Tim McCarver is not a big believer in the Verducci Effect, even though it has been proven time and time again.
Actually it hasn’t been proven and it isn’t Verducci who came up with the concept of limiting innings. There are discussions about how many innings but not all innings are the same nor are all pitchers.
Does the Verducci Effect apply to a guy like Wakefield or Buehrle who don’t throw hard? How about a guy like Rivera who throws a cut fastball. Or Nolan Ryan who threw 100 MPH fastballs all day long?
Breaking balls tax an arm more than anything else especially a splitter or a cutter. A curve is hard on the elbow while a slider is much less taxing. A pitcher who overthrows also will more likely have issues.
Pitch counts matter. Rest intervals matter. The pitches thrown matter. The Yankees have millions of dollars invested in Joba and I’m sure they have more facts and data to support their actions than we do here on Lohud’s board. Joba will pitch the rest of the season and into the playoffs this year. It may not be the Yankees ideal, but it will happen.
Honestly with the amount of Swisher hate on this blog I’m surprised more people aren’t all for bringing Duncan up. I was against it when the Yanks needed a CF but Melky has been amazing and Hairston can fill in at CF without losing a ton of defense.
But back to my point, if you bring Duncan up that only cuts in to Swisher’s play time. When Swisher hits another slump you plug Duncan or Hinske in depending on the pitcher. Or if Damon needs a day, shift Swish to LF and then go with Hinske or Dunc.
Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.
Brandon-
Please tell us. What did Shelly Duncan ever do to you to inspire such venom???
Realistically, what is the maximum number of starts Joba would make in the entire postseason?
Before you answer, assume that we don’t clinch until the last game of the season and Girardi can’t align the rotation as he’d want to.
Assume also that the ALCS and WS both go to 7 games.
I think it’s about 5 or 6 starts at the most, no?
Wave good point about the 10 days. Maybe the Yanks hang on to 13 pitchers for awhile?
Brandon I’m tired of your nonsense, PEACE im outta here
miggs
They sold 100+ tickets in the last 24 hours. What makesyou think those last 800 tickets willlast abother 24 hours?
according to your math they will last 8 days.
GB7-
My memory may be fuzzy, but weren’t a lot of people screaming for the Beltre move?
I think the kicker would be if Cody goes out swinging like Brett Tomko.
If NYY was going to pinch hit for Molina, why in the world would they use Duncan or any other player than Posada. Why burn two players over one. Posada would then have to catch and you have lost another bat.
“Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.”
Did you see Damon last night? we don’t need Pena? Pena could be in LF or RF, Hairston could be in LF or RF or CF, Melky could be in CF/RF/LF. I’d rather shore up the defense b/c that’s a bigger need than the offense.
Patrick-
Duncan’s no great defensive OF but with Gardner out Duncan’s primary use would have been to start in LF and give Damon a day off when a left hander is pitching. That’s really about it.
Duncan should have been left up and Ransom DFA’d before, but since the Yanks didn’t do that, with the 10 day rule and Gardner not being out that long (I hope), there’s really not that much opportunity for Shelley. I think he missed his chance.
My objection is not that Ransom didn’t “earn” his DFA. My objection has always been twofold: The degree to which people seem to blame him for all that is wrong with this team and the way he is verbally attacked by some people here as if he’s somehow less than human because he wasn’t as good at his job as he might have been.
“Brandon-
Please tell us. What did Shelly Duncan ever do to you to inspire such venom???”
He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?
Brandon, get a grip. Pena’s just started playing in the OF, they aren’t going to put him out there in the bigs this year.
Ransom deserved better, while he couldn’t field, hit or run well, he had the intangibles that only real winners have.
Erica – always OPPC
August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
GB7-
My memory may be fuzzy, but weren’t a lot of people screaming for the Beltre move?
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Those were the rumors, but, not at that cost. I don’t know just how serious NYY was about acquiring him.
A report out of Boston says the Socks sent down OF Josh Reddick and brought up LHP Billy Traber.
That’s right ….. thee Billy Traber.
Thank Tampa Bay for that move. Boston used their entire relief staff last night.
“Brandon, get a grip. Pena’s just started playing in the OF, they aren’t going to put him out there in the bigs this year.”
I bet he’ll play a bit of RF or LF, if Damon is he sure can. Pena is good at tracking fly balls.
Nobody expects every player on the roster to be a .300/20 HR hitter. We expect them, however, to be at least serviceable.
According to Fan Graphs, Cody Ransom was worth
NEGATIVE $2.7 million this season. In other words, he was so bad, he should be paying the Yankees to let him play rather than the other way around.
I made a post earlier showing this, but if you extrapolate his number of PA a bit more, he is having a worse season even than TONY WOMACK did back in 2005.
They have players who can fill his role, and fill it better than he does. Carrying both him and Hairston on the roster is a waste of a roster spot that could be put to use in far better fashion by calling someone else up from AAA.
Rayvt, please see link:
http://www.baseballprospectus......cci+effect
your argument lacks cogency
last time I checked, Mo and Wakefield are not under 25
Brandon-
Aren’t you the same person who wanted the Yankees to get Jody Gerut in the off-season? And has an unquestionable man-crush on a terrible pitcher in Jonathan Sanchez?
“Pena is good at tracking fly balls.”
How do you (or I) know?
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Sometimes Posada DH’s when Molina catches. Then Duncan could play a role in that situation.
Just my opinion of course, however I do believe that if the Yanks are going to win their 27th Championship this October, Joba Chamberlain will need to be in the rotation right behind AJ Burnett……
“Cashman has already said all the rules are out the window in a postseason scenario. Joba will be the 3rd or 4th starter in the postseason so its not like he will go 3 times in a series like CC or AJ.”
That’s not likely if he’s in the pen during september. They’d have to re-stretch him out or keep him as a long relief guy to have him start in the postseason. I tend to agree with what McCarver said especially with the way he’s been pitching lately but it’s not happening. Just remember, they put off Wangs rehab assignment to further baby this guy which may or may not have led to Wangs shoulder injury.
“Jody Gerut in the off-season? And has an unquestionable man-crush on a terrible pitcher in Jonathan Sanchez?”
You checked Jonathan Sanchez’s last few starts? you sure you wanna go there cowboy? Jody Gerut to me was a 5th OF I think he was FA and then got hurt. Now what?
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.
Sad news Pete
Posada DH’d 5 times this year. Three times while NYY had three catchers up.
The Verducci effect has only been studied for pitchers 25 and younger.
What I would be interested in is studying older pitchers and seeing how cumilative years of multiple innings pitched affects them….
Might give us an insight into Sabathia this year….
Follow up ……
Francona confirmed that the Sox have optioned out Josh Reddick and brought up lefthander Billy Traber, making room for him on the 40-man roster by designating infielder Gil Velazquez for assignment. Traber could be the first man out of the bullpen tonight if Brad Penny encounters early difficulty. Francona also indicated that Clay Buchholz, who is still scheduled to start on Saturday, also would be available in relief if necessary.
““Pena is good at tracking fly balls.”
How do you (or I) know?”
It’s been said since he was in AA, they do make some of them practice in the OF you know. And they like him enough to give him a few stints at CF in AAA so he must have skills at it.
“UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38. ”
Sad news. Glad he was able to come to the Stadium before he passed.
“He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?”
That still doesn’t tell us why you despise him worse than Cody Ransom.
Well I gotta go. Later ppl.
RIP Mr. Murray. Hopefully, their day at the Stadium will be a great lasting memory for his wife & son.
Rest in Peace, Mr. Murray.
Hey Yankee fans, I need some advice.
I am going to a game Aug 28, first time at NYS. Fansnap has tickets available all over the place, but what is the best value for money? Am willing to go up to high double-digits for a seat (need 2). Is there a web site that discusses/reviews best seats at NYS? Should I wait until the last moment?
RIP Mr. Murray
Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
“Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.”
Did you see Damon last night? we don’t need Pena? Pena could be in LF or RF, Hairston could be in LF or RF or CF, Melky could be in CF/RF/LF. I’d rather shore up the defense b/c that’s a bigger need than the offense.
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Yes, I saw Damon last night. He scored 2 very valuable runs against Roy Halladay. Including a giant home run. Did you see Damon last night??
Brandon- you get more absurd by the minute
“That still doesn’t tell us why you despise him worse than Cody Ransom.”
Who saids I despise him worse than Cody? I despised Cody worse than I do Shelley, I’d throw a parade for his release today if I could. Ok now I gotta go. Later Lohud.
Seeing the players line up to shake hands with George and his family nearly brought this grown man to tears. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I’ve never been prouder to be a Yankee fan.
Anybody think that Brandon might actually be Graig “Puff” Nettles? Comes in, stirs up the crap and “Puff”, he’s gone.
“It’s been said since he was in AA, they do make some of them practice in the OF you know. And they like him enough to give him a few stints at CF in AAA so he must have skills at it.”
Maybe next year but not this year. Pena hasn’t logged enough time out there for the Yanks to be likely to trust him in the OF in a game situation. Remember Melky’s first year? And Melky had always been an OF.
This year, Pena is an infielder.
Mr. Murray was 38 yr old war vet. sad to read. I am glad hopefully he had some happiness at yankee Stadium a few weeks ago.
ALS is a terrible terrible illness.
RIP Mr.Murray..
“You checked Jonathan Sanchez’s last few starts? you sure you wanna go there cowboy? Jody Gerut to me was a 5th OF I think he was FA and then got hurt. Now what?”
So Sanchez’s last few starts? You mean, other than his last start where he went 7 innings and the no hitter 4 weeks ago, the fact that he pitched 6 innings in a start a total of one time in 2 months? Two starts in a month don’t make a guy good. He’s a fringe 5th starter in the national League.
Even though you have terrible hatred for Shelley Duncan for whatever reason, maybe, just maybe, if the Yankees decided he was worth getting called up again, you should, ya know, root for the guy, since he is a Yankee after all?
Hey gang, let’s be reasonable here. How can you possibly expect some of the posters here to be accepting of a role player who isn’t coming off the bench and hitting .500 each time when those same posters make frankenstein look calm when players like Arod have the audacity to have a bad night.
I’ve come to the outstandingly profound conclusion that the twain is not going to ever meet between those of us who generally feel overall kumbaya for a player because he plays for our team – and that should be enough to bring on the love – and those who feel entitled to growl when less than perfection should rear it’s not-so-pretty head.
I know that I feel like drop-kicking those “self-entitled, always complaining, perfection-demanding” fanzillas from here to China. I feel certain that those same people likely feel like choking the perpetual “peace, love, and happiness” out of me.
Just the way it is.
Doreen
Thank you for getting it.
I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.
He played 197 games in the big leagues, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.
People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.
that really makes me sad to hear the passing of mr murray…RIP brotha
The news about Mr Murray has put a total bummer and perspective on the day and what is really important. I am really glad that Jason Zillo and the Yankees were able to make his wish come true and he was able to spend time at the Stadium with his family seeing something he really wanted to see and something that made a difference in his life.
Ænima
August 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
LOL! I wasn’t saying they were under 25! I was only stating that certain types of pitchers would not fall into the category and may be in a more stringent or non-existent category.
People aren’t sold on this either because there are so many outliers and causes that it is almost impossible to track. Guys who pitched 168 innings in a HS championship game or 100 picthes for a closer in a college world series game who later got injured because they supposedly didn’t follow Verducci is crazy. What about the ones who did follow this supposed rule and got hurt? What happened?
I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.
Mechanics for the players body, the arm action versus leg strength, training routines, the spinal strength, the core body strength, a sore foot, a blister, sleeping wrong on a pillow, almost anything can have an effect and cause a career ending injury. Maybe they lift weights too much without allowing the ligaments to stretch properly. The problem is no one knows. So samples of players who had similar training and overuse showed issues. The cause is hard to quantify. Looking for data that only supports a hypothesis versus data that both supports and opposes it is dangerous too.
My coach in college use to say only thro fastballs until the weather gets warm because curves to soon caused injuries.
Through tears I can only say that I hope with my heart that meeting the Yankees brought some peace and happiness to the end of his life. May he rest in peace now.
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38
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Oh no. How sad.
May he R.I.P
Mr. Murray’s son may or may not remember the day but will always have the video memory of spending a special and happy day with his dad. Priceless. RIP.
RIP Mr. Murray
Wow, 38 is way too young to die. RIP George Murray………
trisha-
I think if you’re a real Yankee fan, your overall kumbaya-ness ought to extend to Yankee fans who like to complain about whatever. After all, those fans are needed to complete the yin and yang with OPPC posters such as yourself.
Embrace the contradictions. Should be easy for someone who thinks Molina should start over Posada!
Peace, I’m just teasing you…
Sad news about Mr. Murray. I’m glad he and his family had an opportunity to enjoy a special time together before he died. Hopefully it will be a source of joy and peace for his wife and son to have been able to share that day.
He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?
actually again you are wrong and exaggerating Shelly’s at least a league average defender and those who “watch” him play everyday will tell you he’s actually better than league average and underrated with the glove…he ain’t winning any gold gloves but he’s a legit RF can play LF also..Shelley’s prob is the way he looks when he plays…he’s not graceful in anything he does so people ignore his #’s…he’s not a gazelle so you think he’s not good defensively but in fact he’s got average range a better arm than Swish and Damon and he knows how to play the game with effort…he doesn’t have a “classic” looking swing or finish to his swing so they say he’s got a softball swing but results are results….he’s always been a very good athlete…i think that Swish for instance is not an everyday player and would be better if you spelled him a couple days a week maybe a day off for Damon a week would keep him fresher …dh Shelley some against a lefty with 56games left you could creatively find him 100-140 abs/keep Swish,Damon and Matsui fresh and healthy for the playoffs and find that you have a productive player from the rightside and someone who can take a corner OF spot next year….crazy….imo Shelly could be as productive as Ryan Ludwick if given 500abs….hey Brandon look at Ludwicks stats his first career 100 games before the Cards gave him an opportunity last year
He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?
actually again you are wrong and exaggerating Shelly’s at least a league average defender and those who “watch” him play everyday will tell you he’s actually better than league average and underrated with the glove…he ain’t winning any gold gloves but he’s a legit RF can play LF also..Shelley’s prob is the way he looks when he plays…he’s not graceful in anything he does so people ignore his #’s…he’s not a gazelle so you think he’s not good defensively but in fact he’s got average range a better arm than Swish and Damon and he knows how to play the game with effort…he doesn’t have a “classic” looking swing or finish to his swing so they say he’s got a softball swing but results are results….he’s always been a very good athlete…i think that Swish for instance is not an everyday player and would be better if you spelled him a couple days a week maybe a day off for Damon a week would keep him fresher …dh Shelley some against a lefty with 56games left you could creatively find him 100-140 abs/keep Swish,Damon and Matsui fresh and healthy for the playoffs and find that you have a productive player from the rightside and someone who can take a corner OF spot next year….crazy….imo Shelly could be as productive as Ryan Ludwick if given 500abs….hey Brandon look at Ludwicks stats his first career 100 games before the Cards gave him an opportunity last year
Here’s to hoping that the spirit of Hope Week gets picked up by every team in MLB. It would certainly make the world a better place, and take some of the acrimony out of the sting of rampant cheating.
Jason Zillo deserve immense credit.
“I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.
He played 197 games in the big league, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.
People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.”
I understand where you are coming from, but as many have said, Cody Ransom was a joke. He had absolutely no business being on the Yankees. There are many players that deserved a chance over Cody Ransom. He could not play defense or hit for anything. I dont think he would be a backup on the Nationals, nonetheless a 200 million dollar team.
Also, as an aside, you should not talk about class as every post you made for about a month had some reference to Angel Berroa’s age, while he was a much more capable backup than Cody Ransom.
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.
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Caught the YES show that covered his outing at the stadium.
Just a horrible and scary disease.
Rest peacefully.
Peter Abraham
August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Amen Peter!
Rest in Peace, George Murray.
Pete, no way, what about Jose Veras? What about A-rod?! WHAT ABOUT PAVANO!? I thought we were mean spirited cranks together in this.
Thanks Peter. It’s hard to figure how you get your jollies when someone is down.
What did I ever say about Jose Veras?
Meanwhile, Pavano had it coming. Cody Ransom never stole money.
Note to the guy trying to post about me ripping “Geronimo Berroa.” It’s Angel Berroa, genius. And I just made of fun of how old he looked, like all of his teammates did.
You want to make jokes, fine. People are ripping Cody like he was bad person. He’s not. Just try and show some humanity. The guy has a family and now he’s unemployed. Cut him some slack.
Hopefully the Yankees win one for George Murray and his family. RIP.
I’m not going to pretend that I’m not happy Ransom is gone – I wanted him gone a long time ago. That said, insults are way out of line. He did the best he could with the ability he had. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Yankees for holding onto him.. Cody didn’t hold a gun to their head and force them to play him. He’s still a human being – I’d like to think he’d be treated like one.
Geronimo Berroa?
RIP, Mr. Murray. Your family can be proud. you put up the good fight.
The part that I remember while watching the tapes of that day was when they were showing the family and players in the Grand hall. It showed teixeira holding the boy’s hand and walking towards the exhibits. It also showed Mr. murray in his chair watching this.
You have to wonder what his thoughts might have been….seeing his son being shown the sights by a big leaguer would make a father proud, but, knowing that it should be you showing him the sights had to be hard to deal with. Takes quite a person to let one emotion show and not the other.
Woo woo woo???
“I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.”
No, you can’t, without committing a mathematical fallacy.
<—– mathematics degree.
That said, check out how many innings Mr. Nolan Ryan pitched before 25 years old.
“I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.”
No, you can’t, without committing a mathematical fallacy.
<—– mathematics degree.
That said, check out how many innings Mr. Nolan Ryan pitched before 25 years old.
Cody Ransom will catch on with another club…..He might end up back in Scranton in a few weeks…..
Geronimo Berroa was a pretty good hitter. Lots of pop for a smallish dude.
“I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.
He played 197 games in the big league, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.
People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.”
Yes Pete and this is the same kid that watched his teammates die in a bus accident and labored long and hard to get his chance to play in the majors.
That free-flowing meanspiritedness that is displayed here so often, where posters totally unload on players who may not be our top stars but are out there working their butts off to try to do a good job for the team, that stuff seriously hurts my heart. After all this time, I think you probably know that about me.
I just don’t get the need for such nastiness.
(I got down on Kennedy, not for doing a poor job but for being a jerk about his poor play. That differs from kicking someone who is out there trying but just isn’t making the grade.)
Give it a rest, already. Take it up w/Tom Verducci if you don’t like it.
Sorry to hear the bad news regarding Mr. Murray. I too caught that piece on YES and I remember that he has a dream to see a Yankee game with his son. I am glad he had a chance to live that dream before he passed away.
“You want to make jokes, fine. People are ripping Cody like he was bad person. He’s not. Just try and show some humanity. The guy has a family and now he’s unemployed. Cut him some slack.”
Considering the guy made a half million dollars this year.. I think he’ll live.
“He’s still a human being – I’d like to think he’d be treated like one.”
That statement should be burned into every one of our hearts.
Is Cody Ransom actually unemployed? Serious question.
I thought he went through waivers now and can be sent to Scranton if no one claims him. Or outright released, I guess.
Does he continue to get some type of paycheck during this process?
Anyway, if you love somebody, set them free. Mr. Cashman’s love is now duly expressed.
Wave –
Peace back at ya!
rufus,
I think the very best seats for the money are behind home plate in the upper deck. The Dugout Grandstand is the top level, and cost $25.00 for season ticket holders – you can generally get them well under $100.00 on Stubhub. Great view, can see the whole field, and it really doesn’t feel too far away.
The lower level of the upper deck behind home plate is the Terrace Suite, or Jim Beam Suite. Wider, cushioned seats, plus access to the Jim Beam Club, which has great food and a full bar (note, you can only take beer, not wine or liquor back to your seat). The face value of these seats is $65, but there also a club fee which I think brings the actual price around $120 or so. On stub hub for anwhere from $80 to several hundred. Again, great view. Nice amenities, and one of my favorites spots to watch a game.
The main level is great, unless you’re too far back. I think the seats start around $150.00 from the box office. If you’re in a low row in the section it’s great, but I was once in the last row, under the underhang, and it felt like I was sitting in the concourse.
I have also been able to get field level seats directly from the box office ($350.00) behind home plate, and those are awesome. Waiter service, cushioned seats, and you’re just behind the legends suite, so pretty close to the field.
Those are the only seats I’ve tried, and they’re all great, it just depends on how much you want to pay.
His agent got some, taxes got a lot, etc. He didn’t take home a half million or close to it. And money is not the point. So if you lost your job, somebody should feel it’s fine to dump on you? Just try not to act like idiots, that’s all I really ask. The Yankees decided to put him on the team, was he supposed to refuse to play?
Boston did not send Josh Reddick down to AAA to make room for Billy Traber. They DFA’d infielder Gil Velazquez, instead.
Does the weather report really show a chance of rain for tomorrow evening?
Really?
Seriously…whenever I have tickets.
Not an especially good day for Ryan Freel or BJ Ryan, either. They were DFA’d, too.
Pete, there is a lot of schizophrenia that goes on here but maybe that’s the nature of sports and fandom. Do you remember the number of times the name “Mitre” was mentioned here in terms of the player people wanted brought up? Do you see who has become the goat du jour?
It always reminds me of the romans throwing the christians to lions. Or something. It certainly isn’t a pretty way to root for your team.
if we go back to the day ANGEL Berroa was waived and people were ripping him we will find a post by Pete Abe saying to respect the guy?
The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.
If we hadn’t picked up Hairston, Freel would’ve been a nice addition. He’s not great by any means, as injuries have pretty much hampered his ability to get to that “next level”, but he plays hard every day, and has a decent bit of speed, and HAS shown an ability to get on base in the past when given consistent chances. Not a starter by any means (which he still thinks he is, which may be why he was DFA’d), but would’ve been a good bench addition.
TylerKepner Yankees sign Russ Ortiz for depth in the minors.
“The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.”
Would that be the silver lining in that cloud?
I really doubt Mr. Ransom is checking the blogs looking for something to cry about. In the grand scheme of things are a few jeers on a website that big of a deal? Yeah it should be kept civil but the holier than thou stuff is a little played out.
“UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.”
Can there now be justice for Ramiro Pena?
the rain will miss the bronx tommorow.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
“The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.”
Would that be the silver lining in that cloud?
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I realize that was pretty sick, but, sadly, it’s the truth.
Calling Andy Pettitte selfish for gutting out starts for the team last season could also be called an unpretty way to root for your team, no?
Seriously, there is some gray area between the black and white extremes of writing paens to the beautiful soul that is Cody Ransom and metaphorically dancing on his Yankee baseball grave.
Nice guy, thanks for the effort, but he wasn’t DFA’d because Cashman woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. The GM is supposed to attempt to improve the product put on the field and the bench as much as possible. Thanks from those of us who think today’s move was a step in that direction.
You have to give the Yankees credit for Hope Week and giving Mr. Murray and his family a day of wonderful memories. I realize other sports teams do charitable acts but I have never seen a team connect with the community the way the Yankees do. It’s a class act and should be commended. My best wishes to the Murray family.
Ransom should go to SWB and then come up in Sept. ransom is 32 and not going to break the bank. most ballplayers do not make a lot of money, there are hundreds and hundreds of ransom’s just getting by.
i just thought he did not deserve to be on the 25, no ill will. i am sure he is a decent guy…..it is girardi and cashmans fault for not having the best 25 on the roster……
Mitre vs. Somebody
Cody Ransom was the BEST vertical leaper the Yankees had.
Oddly, Berroa was their best shot putter.
Someone Else
August 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I’m an Electrical Engineer, Nuclear minor and a degree in Mathematics.
Yes I can! Obviously it is wrong but statistically it is true. You are just proving my point. I can also give you equations in excel that will give you an incorrect answer. The problem is never in the result, but in the cause or assumption up front.
The Verducci code, LOL, makes an assumption that all pre-25 yr olds are equal and takes statistical results to prove the opinion is indeed valid. That would be laughed out of any realm of logic except fan logic.
David Clyde age 23 pitched 93 innings in 1973. He pitched 117 in 1974 at age of 24. He blew his arm out and was out of ML baseball till 1978. How does he fit the mold?????
Come on guru?
Don Sutton pitched 225.2 innings in his 1st year in the majors at the age of 21. 232 at 22. 207 at 23. 293 at 24. What happened? Did his arm fall off? He pitched 5282 innings in 23 seasons for an average of 229 innings a season.
Steve Carlton went from 52 innings at age 21 to 193 innings at 22. He went 13 straight seasons pitching more than 230 innings straight with a high of 346 innings at age 27.
Whitey Ford pitched 207 innings at age 24 after not pitching in MLB for 2 years. He pitched 14 successive seasons of over 200 innings except 1 year when he pitched 192 (1960).
Jim Kaat went from 50 innings at age 21 to 200 innings the next year. He pitched 9 out of the next 10 years at over 200 innings with 1 yr being 178 innings. 15 out of 17 yrs of over 200 innings with the other year being 113 innings in 1972. Two years he went over 300 innings. Why didn’t he fall apart.
my only issue is the harping on Ransom as the cause of every loss for the season. To read a game log where there are hundreds of negative comments about him just makes no sense to me at all. He was the 25th guy on the roster and played once a week. I doubt that a single LoHud reader thinks that Ransom got a raw deal in being released but he had his chance in April and didn’t do the job, then got hurt-he was a stop gap measure when he came back from the DL because the Yankees wanted Pena at Scranton playing every day. That’s the beginning and the end of it, isn’t there anything else that is more interesting to post than just venting about him?
anecdotal evidence is the very worst kind
The Verducci Effect is crap for fans and ESPN to use to get discussions. Also, there is even discord on whether it applies to minor league games or not as well. Or Az Fall league.
“I really doubt Mr. Ransom is checking the blogs looking for something to cry about. In the grand scheme of things are a few jeers on a website that big of a deal? Yeah it should be kept civil but the holier than thou stuff is a little played out.”
Scott Brosius’s dad posted on the NY Times forum under a different name when Scott was on the team. You never know who posts on a forum or reads the forum, especially on such a wildly popular forum as the lohud forum.
I would say err on the side of caution. There is a wide gap between making note that the lions may be hungry and actually throwing them human sacrifices to eat.
There are people who have schmuckness written all over them. I think those are the ones Pete’s comments are probably meant to target.
As far as I’ve read today, there’s no one here who really disagrees with the Yankees’ decision to DFA Cody Ransom. No one has said he should have kept his position because of his life circumstances.
From the way I read it, there are the people who just want to wish him well, acknowledge he did the best he could (whether or not that was good enough is a different discussion), and to stay away from treating the guy like so much dirt on the field.
No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.
I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.
Sure, MG, but when a New York Yankee is DFA’d, attention must be paid.
And, devil’s advocate, isn’t there anything more interesting to post than venting about Ransom comments?
Anyway, I haven’t seen every comment on this subject today, so of course I concede that some and perhaps even many of the comments were rude or over the top. But the sun will still come up tomorrow for Cody Ransom and — well, yeah.
“Mitre vs. Somebody”
AWWWW, you’re just sad that Evan Longloria walks this earth. HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
You’re not even good at trolling!
“No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.
I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.”
Amen.
YKW is worse at trolling than Cody Ransom was at playing third base for the Yankees.
That’s a pretty significant degree of bad.
For those interested- the Yankees have now had 41 different players on the 25 man roster during this season
GO YANKEES!!!
GO RAYS!!!
GO SERGIO MITRE!!!
You wanted him. Now support him, dammit!
Cody Ransom batted .302 last year with 4 HR in 43 at bats and 33 games. He did his job. This year he started in a slump because he was exposed by trying to fill an everyday position and then he got hurt. IMO, if Pena were played as much as Cody he would have failed too. That is why Hairston is on the team! He is much better than both of them. I hope Cody goes to the Mets!
Holier than thou, how?
Surrendered…executed anyhow
Scrawl dissolved, cigar box on the floor…
1 + 1 = 3
how, you ask?
1 shot of tequila + 1 shot of bourbon = 3 shots of tequila
in essence, mixing alcohols creates an exponentially more powerful impact than one alcohol on its own
(whether this is apocryphal or not, I don’t know. Just something I heard while in college.)
russ ortiz?
Go Yanks! Pitch Great Sergio! Beat the RSox Rays!
Ray,
The “Verducci Effect” has been great for one person…..Tom Verducci.
Its given him a calling card and people quote it as if a pitcher throws one inning over what Verducci said he should throw, his arm will fall off on the mound.
The issue with all of these pitching theories is, they are exactly that…..theories.
For every David Clyde, there is Jim Kaat.
For every Mark Prior, there is Greg Maddox or John Smoltz.
Its very, very hard to ascribe a single, time honored theory of developing pitchers. Everybody’s delivery is different, as well as their arm angles and bodies.
Its why, one size, fits all pitching theories aren’t worth the paper they are printed on.
They are great talking points and some of the issues are valid. However, to call it the “bible of developing pitchers”, as some have, is not necessarily accurate.
How many games to players need to play at the pro’s to be eligible for the MLB pension plan? Are there different levels?
1+1 = 10
Doreen, Well stated…….
I didn’t read through everything written so maybe something was THAT mean, but in general who really cares, everyone should lighten up. It is holier than thou, no one is commenting on the man, its Cody Ransom the baseball player, I’m sorry he is a public figure and that comes with the territory. It shouldn’t get personal but yeah I am happy the asset known as Cody Ransom to use Cashspeak is gone. Also, lets talk about baseball.
i thought the verducci effect was me disliking selena roberts the more verducci yacked about her.
who cares what verducci says about pitching?
he doesn’t pitch.
he has no scientific credentials.
he doesn’t coach or train pitchers.
oh god
russ ortiz?
lets hope he never sees the light of day on the yankees
SJ44
August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Amen SJ44! It is biased data. Maybe it is 80% right. Maybe it is only 20%. I have a stopped clock that is right twice a day!
trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
“No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.
I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.”
“Amen”.
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Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?
LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.
The mythical attraction of “the other” goes far beyond baseball and other sports, but it’s especially prevelant there.
As has been pointed out here many times before, the backup QB (or backup catcher, if you will) is often very popular — until he has to play more that a few games.
Mitre was “the other” and now he’s here and we can see him much more clearly.
But Mitre vs ‘Can I Buy Another Vowel?’ is a matchup we can win.
Rayvt + reading his humorless posts = Zzzzzzzzzzzz
lol those blue jay ump fans are there once again? hahahaah
I see your point about variances SJ. Here’s my issue as relates to Jobe: He has a history of arm issues. That’s one of the reasons why someone with his stuff fell so far. He had arm issues last year.
He certainly fits the profile of a guy who you should be careful with.
randy l.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Agreed Randy!
As far as the verducci thing, I agree setting a firm, arbitrary, universal mark for building up innings doesn’t make much sense, but in principle I agree with it. We should be careful and we should be intelligent with young talent. There has to be some kind of leash for guys like Joba.
“i thought the verducci effect was me disliking selena roberts the more verducci yacked about her.
who cares what verducci says about pitching?
he doesn’t pitch.
he has no scientific credentials.
he doesn’t coach or train pitchers.”
Finally a post of yours I can completely agree with.
I meant to write “Joba” and “fell so far in the draft.”
Wishing For Nautical Nonsense
August 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Glad I could help you with your sleep apnea! LOL!
“Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?
LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.”
You are really on a roll tonight! I was actually going to make comment about extending the christian metaphor but just didn’t have the energy!
“I see your point about variances SJ. Here’s my issue as relates to Jobe: He has a history of arm issues. That’s one of the reasons why someone with his stuff fell so far. He had arm issues last year.
He certainly fits the profile of a guy who you should be careful with.”
Joba fell in the draft because of a knee injury not an arm issue.
Here’s something that should bring universal joy. I’m leaving to get dinner. You will have some intermittent peace!
Be back. (Sorry, good things sometimes do end!)
Also, there were concerns about Joba’s weight when he came out of Nebraska.
Let’s somehow win tonight. Go Yankees
Lets Go Yankees!
I’d love to see a list of the clientele for Cody Ransom’s agent.
“anecdotal evidence is the very worst kind”
I don’t know about that.
The good part of anecdotal evidence is that it’s generally transparent. Regardless of what the person marshalling that evidence says – it’s clear that it’s only an anecdote. That let’s anyone take it for what it’s worth.
The “worst” evidence is often statistical analysis of non-experimental data that isn’t rigorously performed and isn’t well documented.
It’s that kind of evidence that often leads people from a state of uncertainty to a state of believing something wrong. You wind up accepting a conclusion that is false because of the limitations of the data, the lack of making assumptions explicit and the use of the wrong methods of analysis.
But the conclusions are based on “stats” so it gives them a level of authority that they really shouldn’t have. A level of false authority that anecdotal evidence rarely reaches.
Lots and lots of that kind of “evidence” in baseball analyses.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
“Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?
LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.”
You are really on a roll tonight! I was actually going to make comment about extending the christian metaphor but just didn’t have the energy!
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Yeah, the lions vs Christians had pretty well run it’s course.
Now, for a long conversation, we could all talk about how well the Christians would do vs the Detroit Lions. I’ll take the Christians over the Detroiters and give 40 points.
7:07 start — wow the convenience stores in canada have strange names.
The biggest effect of the Verducci rule is on the blame game. No one knows whether or not Joba will stay healthy and effective for the next couple of years. However, if the team does not follow the Verducci rule, and he gets injured, people will blame Girardi and Cashman. If they follow the rule, and he gets injured, oh well, that’s pitching.
IMO, they have carefully looked at the schedule, and I bet they use every off day to get Joba some more rest. I’m sure when they reconfigured the rotation at the All Star break they were planning for this week’s move to give Joba a couple of extra days. However, when it comes to the playoffs, Joba will be pitching, and the hell with Verducci.
Observer,
Agreed re: Joba. You can do that and still use him accordingly.
For example, in his last start, he was effortless. He had more taxing starts in some of his 4 inning debacles than he did pitching 8 innings.
I think its all about taking it from start to start, encouraging him to be honest (a HUGE problem for players) when it comes to being sore, tired, etc, and go from there.
I’m not saying throw caution to the wind with Joba or any pitcher.
I am saying that if the kid is healthy, feeling strong, and his stuff isn’t being negatively affected, you keep him in the rotation and not get caught up in nebulous theory.
I personally believe the reson we have so many arm injuries for pitchers these days is that they over train certain muscle groups and strain the connecting ligaments. Steroids & HGH exacerbate issue of bulking up. Couple that with the desire to win at every level from Little League on up and the arms are traumatized by the time they get to the majors.
Aaron Hill was on Kim Jones’ “Innerview” on the pre-game. Kim asked him if he could spell his starting pitcher’s name. He just laughed. Then he said, he’d never be able to spell it, and not only that, but they call him something different every day! Pretty funny stuff.
what i love about the bluejays:
the 2 umpire fans behind the plate and the beautiful women serving the rich seats…
yay the fake umps are here!
Did anyone catch the guy on david letterman last night who makes fun of guys batting stances..He was friggen hysterical..
CB- good post. I can dig that, incomplete or limited statistical evidence is more dangerous because it gives people the “stats” label and they stop questioning it. Makes sense to me. What I was getting at was all the stories that you hear when you try to make an argument: In my day we pitched complete games back to back and didn’t break a sweat….blah blah blah that kind of thing is what I dislike. Or the clutch stories, don’t even get me started
i’m very interested in see how sergio mitre handles the pressure tonight.
he knows he has to do well or else.
sometimes this snaps a guy into bringing his A game.
for some strange reason, i’m expecting him to do well.
A relatively soft tossing lefty, NYY should be able to get to him. Need to do it fast, though.
CB
August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
The “worst” evidence is often statistical analysis of non-experimental data that isn’t rigorously performed and isn’t well documented.
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Absolutely!!!!!!!
Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.
is it just me or does something just not look right with that guys arm action…its so slingy and odd looking…looks injury prone lol
Niese out for season:
mlbCozMets on Niese – MRI revealed complete tear of the right upper hamstring tendon – out for the remainder of the season.
I’m calling it now.. Mitre will pitch a No No tonight..LOL
Just got home from work and assorted errands, and checked the blog – and saw the news about Mr. Murray.
My stepson’s science teacher in elementary school, Mr. Chris Pendergas, has been diagnosed with ALS (I refuse to refer to it as Lou Gehrig’s Disease – Lou ‘s name should not be associated with such a tragic disease) and is very active in ALS fundraising in our local LI community. Also, I happened to be at the Stadium on the day that Mr. Murray was celebrated.
Being taken at such a young age is a tragedy beyond words. The Yankees, for all their flaws, should be congratulated for raising awareness here, and making Mr. Murray and his family happy for one day.
Makes all our games seem so trivial – and so important for the joy they can give. We should always relish the joy.
Rzsyzinsinnmnski was just identified as being from “the University of Califoria”. That is true, to an extent, but such an identification suggests that he was a Cal Bear from Berkeley, while ,y own research indicates that he pitched for Cal Riverside.
I have nothing against the Highlanders — our own Anthony Clagget is one as well — but a Highlander is not the same as a Golden Bear.
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.
I like the way you state things!! LOL!
Wow, thats a pretty damn good polish last name going on there.
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Did anyone catch the guy on david letterman last night who makes fun of guys batting stances..He was friggen hysterical..
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I’ve seen that on youtube. I laughed so hard at that guy. He’s great
Good to see you michelle b. of oakland — nice convenience store joke!
Hmm.. a couple of those looked close to strikes.
i’d rather have a Stanford Cardinal Pitcher over a Cal golden bear anyday!
Mitre is working quick. Keeping everything down. Could be a solid day for him.
if all you knew about mitre was the first 2 batters tonight..you’d say hes a beast!
Mitre
no one pays any attention to me…lol, but if they did they would see i can make a funny every so often.
Such sad news about Mr. Murray. At least he got to have a lot of enjoyment before the end.
Rayvt
August 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.
I like the way you state things!! LOL!
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And as I type that, Mitre strikes out the first two, and one swinging.
well there went the no hitter…
Tex missed a ball? :shocked: Kidding.
“Niese out for season:
mlbCozMets on Niese – MRI revealed complete tear of the right upper hamstring tendon – out for the remainder of the season.’
I think the Mets are cursed with injuries.
michelle, I paid attention to that Stanfurd comment!
But if that pitcher is named Mike Mussina, I might agree. Otherwise…
Cano should have had that one
2-out danger – I HATE that
Carpet hits…Sinkerball pitcher on the rug….Tough going
I meant Moose!
About 2 minutes ago, I said, “Who is that pitching, and what did they do with Sergio Mitre.”
Oh. Nevermind, found him.
Uh oh. Things were going so well too…
same start to this game as last…2 quick outs then hits followed by a run
me > Mitre
can we get a “coaching visit to the mound” please
“Carpet hits…Sinkerball pitcher on the rug….Tough going”
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing coming into this game.
Mitre gives up a lot of contact.
Balls are going to get through the infield on turf.
Nothing hit that hard. But there’s two runs up on the board after the first two outs are made.
Jesus Christ, this guy is terrible.
It’s funny how everyone but the yankees knew mitre was worthless
This is not looking good.
Igawa and his sunglasses better get ready…Cano should of had that ball but 2, 2 strike hits.
Mitre > Chien Ming
Oh, man. It started so well.
It stinks if you’re making good pitches, but they’re hitting them anyway.
Just one more out…
Mitre is terrible. You cant keep running him out there. They should sign him as the batting practice pitcher. He would be a legend in that role.
This guy is so bad… he gets 2 quick outs then 4 straight singles. Just terrible.
I hope it isn’t Highlander vs. Highlander soon.
mitre cant catch a break – poor guy.
ok – can get get runs off the alphabet guy?
That was not a great throw by Hairston. Almost threw it into right center.
holy crap someone needs to get this guy outta there… there has GOT to be some better options than this turkey…
waiver land here comes cash!!
Congrats to the Blue Jays for beating the Yankees tonight!
Nick Swisher > Mitre
Things started off well, then changed directions
he k’d scutaro and hill with such great ease…then he got unlucky with where the hits were going…except for overbay, none of those balls were hit remotely hard..
“It stinks if you’re making good pitches, but they’re hitting them anyway.”
He’s not making good pitches, though. Practically everything is up in the zone, and it’s getting hammered. He is what he is, and what he is, is a AAA pitcher.
Rios and Wells would probably be able to hit the Yankees when they’re in thier high 80′s, and in wheelchairs.
Other than that, a strong first inning for Mitre.
Get Claggett ready and get Mitre out of there.
If Claggett is only going to be here for a day, you might as well get 6 or 7 innings out of him.
The Yankees just can’t keep running a guy out there who puts the team in multi-run holes by the second inning of every start.
The #5 starter is going to have to pitch at least 10 more times this year. You can’t concede 10 losses in a pennant race because your #5 starter is completely inept.
The #5 starter doesn’t have to be Cy Young. He does however have to be better than this.
lol at the guys name who Reggie hit his 300 homer off of.
this is sad
Fine line between “pitches to contact” and “easily hittable”.
Mitre fell off that line a long time ago.
Seen enough of Mitre. Obviously the Jays haven’t. Unless somebody pushes his buttons he won’t survive 3 innings.
the first two batters, Mitre’s ball moved great and then he had to pitch from the stretch
Time for an S.O.S. call to one Moose Mussina. Give him Clemens money.
Jason Bay appears to be perfectly healthy (unfortunately)
At this point, I’m thankful they won last night. That was a big win knowing you have Mitre going tonight.
Hopefully, this is his last start. Even if you have to try Josh Towers next, which is no bargain, we have seen enough of Mitre to know he’s not the answer.
Who we got next in line Josh Towers or the Kei man?
Why because he hit a homer?
Arod gets fooled by fastballs right down the middle more than any other batter I have ever seen. That must be the scouting report on him.
Swisher needs to get a hit here
“Time for an S.O.S. call to one Moose Mussina.”
Three words: Never. Gonna. Happen.
Can we stop giving these knucklheads tv time? They are annoying after a while. We’ll have people doing stuff constantly to get on tv and behind homeplate ruining watching these games soon.
the hits Mitre gave up were on pitches at waist level or above, he can’t get anyone out unless he pitches at the knees.
There’s a base hit by Swishy
I usually don’t mind the BJ’s announcers – as away announcers go they’re pretty tolerable. But I’m sick and tired already of hearing about the Yankee players contracts. We know. They have a few players with massive contracts.
But its not like the Blue Jays’ don’t have players making decent $$’s on their team, hell some of them are big enough contracts that they seem to regret by their actions.
uh – can we call a hit for Cano here, too?
Mitre has to get it done in the next few innings or this is going to get ugly…….Claggett is no better
Mitre is such a troll.
Mitres BABIP is .400
Mitre just bought himself a bus ticket to Scranton after the game.
How did Swisher get a hit? Has he ever faced the alphabet guy? What does Swisher know that the other hitters dont know?
Everyone stop riding Mitre so hard. He is a good guy who is trying his best for the team. Have a little class.
I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Sergio when he cant get anyone out really despicable. The guy is doing what they ask as well as he can. So fine, he is like chum in shark infested waters. No reason to insult the guy. He is acting professionally while he is with the team.
He has played 82 games in the big league, 82 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.
People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.
I can’t understand for the life of me how a team with so much payroll can employ a guy like Mitre who was suspended from baseball and was never good anyways on the Marlins, but is somehow the Yanks #5 starter?? I mean Josh Towers was IL Pitcher of the Week last week and was a servicable Toronto pitcher a couple years ago.. Can’t he at least get a shot? Sid Finch is better than this waste. lol The Yanks will never stay on a roll if they stroll this guy out every 5th day.. He never even earned this right (by default)..
The 5th starter’s spot has killed them. When Wang was pitching he was terrible. I believe they won only one of his starts when the offense had a big come back. Hughes took over and it was ok and now if they don’t score 6 runs or more an automatic loss. It is obvious they need to try someone new.
unfortunately the Yanks don’t have any good options in AAA ball
Mitre hasn’t been good but why would anyone thing Igawa could be better? His ERA at Scranton is 1.5 runs higher than Mitre’s at Scranton. Besides, we’ve already seen how awful he really is.
Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.
I have a feeling that the vintage John Smoltz is going to show up and have the best game of the season against the Yanks.
or they could just go back to Hughes, who was a good #5
Well, Mitre was also Pitcher of the Week in the IL earlier this season. That’s not really a barometer for anything.
As with the Red Sox, the 5th starter is a black hole for the Yankees right now. It will be interesting to see how or if they can fill it.
Haha yeah lets take Mitre out after 1 inning, that’s real smart. Claggett can go 2 maybe 3 innings max, and that’s if he pitches well. Lets blow out our bullpen the day before a 4 game set vs the Sox.
I’d rather take a loss here than go back home with a worn out bullpen.
# Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I have a feeling that the vintage John Smoltz is going to show up and have the best game of the season against the Yanks.
Wouldn’t be surprised. They act like they don’t know how to hit someone they never seen before. Not to mention someone who throws strikes.
Mitre sucks but that’s what you get when you waste 2 of your best starters in the bullpen.
Yanks have nobody to blame but themselves for this little predicament.
Who’s going to be our #5? Put a claim in for Harang,Arroyo,Zito, and get stuck with their miserable contracts.
Who else will pass thru waivers?
jeezus lord, they’re sending him back out there again… heaven help us.
MLBTRS says the Yanks have signed Russ Ortiz. Hopefully they don’t get so desperate that he sees the majors.
Who was the pitcher they added?
Carl
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.
Who cares if its minor league ball, he still deserves a shot rather than Mitre. Towers was a MLB pitcher before so he has experience.
Hughes is not leaving the bullpen. That’s only been said about 50 times by the Yankees.
At this point, they can afford to take him out of the role he is currently in and stretch him out.
As bad as Mitre has been, Brian Bruney has been worse and isn’t ready to assume 8th inning duties. With Aceves hurting, they have nobody to replace Hughes in the pen. That’s why he isn’t a 5th starter option.
Give Moose 2 weeks and two starts at Scranton and sign him up!
Yankees desperately need a number 5 starter. Especially if they plan on shutting Joba down/putting him in the pen things could become a disaster in September. Mitre will be our #4?
I got a feeling Mitre is going to settle down .
The Yanks will come back and win this
When do waiver deals start happening?
I’ll take Garland, Davis, Harang, or Arroyo.
Moose will win his first ring this year and be a first ballot hall of famer!
‘Well they dragged me here from Montoursville… I’ll be seeing you real soon…”
The reason why Mitre is here is because 10 other things went wrong. As the saying goes you can never have enough pitching, but the Yankees went into the season with a great rotation and some contingency plans. Unfortunately is took injuries to Wang and Ian Kenedy to thin out the starters. Marte and Bruney your seventh and eighth inning guys getting hurt to need to move Hughes into the pen as well as Aceves with Edwar and Alby stinking it up out there. They will need to find a replacement, but you had Joba, Andy P, Wang, AJ and CC all penciled in the rotation with Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves starting in AAA as replacements. Mitre was a gamble low cost insurance plan as was Tonkmko and Towers. So I will always say more is better, but can’t fault Cashman going into the year. Mitre simply has no put away pitch or one that stands out, he’s mediocre across the board. Sinkers on artifical turf won’t help either.
Ortiz’ ERA in July with Houston was about 15, there is no way he pitches for the Yankees this year.
I never said Hughes SHOULD leave the bullpen. I have said that he never should have been put there in the first place. It’s a stupid move. I said it back in May, I’ll say it now. Hughes shouldn’t be in the bullpen.
He needs to be absolutely perfect otherwise he gets smacked around. It looks like batting practice.
The Yankees are 18-6 against starters they have never seen before this season. They have been much better than in past years with these type of pitchers.
2-1, Tampa Bay
“But its not like the Blue Jays’ don’t have players making decent $$’s on their team, hell some of them are big enough contracts that they seem to regret by their actions.”
Just show them their 256/.303/.402 hitter thats being paid $23m in 2011.
Terry from NH August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Carl
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.
Who cares if its minor league ball, he still deserves a shot rather than Mitre. Towers was a MLB pitcher before so he has experience.
What I’m trying to say is, just because hes a Minor league pitcher of the week, it doesn’t mean anything.
We have a 20 game winner doing crossword puzzles and collecting tractors.
DO SOMETHING HAL.
OR MAYBE HANK.
Praying to the Gods of GIDP…
Hey, Mitre knows how to get Scutaro out, that’s worth something. I hope Mo is paying attention.
SJ – didn’t you love Mitre while he was dominating the minors?
Time to find another starter. I don’t even like the fact that guys on sportscenter and the radio are even mentioning the K-man.
Well Penny just got smoked by Carlos Pena.
Mitre’s fastball looks like it moves more side to side than down, if he gets it over the middle of the plate it’s pretty easy to hit.
Those 2 clowns wearing ump masks behind the plate should be kicked out for disturbing the fans.
And as sad as it is except for a short string of good starters, Brad Penny who cost a lot more money isn’t much better than Mitre.
Evan D couldn’t agree more, but the more they keep showing them on tv the more they will be around thinking they are b celebs. The entertainment value lasts about 3 pitches before it gets old.
I would feel a lot better if the Yankees could just score a run or two and get themselves in the game.
there is no way that Mike Mussina, a 40 year old pitcher who depends on precision to be successful, comes back to baesball this or any other year. His time has past and it sounds like he’s very comfortable with it as well.
Go Mitre GO Mitre .. ITs your birthday
Perhaps the Yanks can pretend they are not counting down until tomorrow and start hitting against RZEP……
Did I “love” Mitre? No, I didn’t.
I said they should give him a shot. They have and it isn’t working.
Time to try somebody else.
That’s what the 5th starters spot is likely going to be the rest of the way. A series of tryouts to see if somebody can stick for a few starts.
Up to 7 players from each team were put on the waiver list starting this past Monday.If the Steinbrenners don’t want to spend money don’t expect a decent replacement.
Better hope that Aceves gets better, Marte comes back strong, and Bruney regains his location and confidence.
They should give Igawa a chance what is the worst thing that can happen he gives up 10 runs? Then Towers, after him is Swisher…
deep breaths deep breaths
The Mitre Love Metre is going up!
So just saw that Gabe Kapler was up for the Rays. How the heck has Kapler played 10 years in the big leagues???? He’s not very good at anything and has he ever been a starter? He is like a professional backup qb just collecting paychecks forever.
Mitre right now is exemplifying the idea that once a ball is hit on the ground it’s up to chance whether that ball is turned into an out or becomes a basehit. It just depends on whether it’s hit at someone or not. And the pitcher has little control over where the ball is placed.
I never believed that with Wang. Wang had such good stuff that he was able to keep the hitter from squaring up the ball. He was able to produce systematically worse contact than an average pitcher could. The balls hit off of him in turn were easier chances to field.
So far with Mitre it’s a completely different story. He’s nothing like Wang when Wang was right. Mitre induces ground balls but they are hit very hard on a consistent basis.
If those hard hit ground balls happen to be directed at a spot on the field where a player is positioned it’s an out. Otherwise it’s a hit.
Good example of that was that first hit he gave up that got past tex. That ball was hit inside of Tex’s fielding zone. And it was a grounder. But it was hit so hard that Tex had no chance.
Every inning Mitre can give us is a good thing
figure the Yankees need once through the lineup to learn how to spell and pronounce Rzepcynski, this game isn’t over unless the Jays score another 4-5 runs early.
Do you think the Mussina Yankeeography will mention that he was two centimeters away from a perfect game?
“We now interrupt the Mike Mussina Yankeeography to bring you a special message from Brian Cashman, live from rural Pennsylvania.”
“I would feel a lot better if the Yankees could just score a run or two and get themselves in the game.”
are they not currently “in” this game?
Mussina could pitch until he was 45. He throws an 85 mph fastball!
Also, he would possibly consider pitching for a Suduko puzzle board and a vintage Ford Model T.
SJ, you’re not getting 6-7 innings out of Claggett today. In fact, the Yankees would be lucky to get 2 innings out of him. If he’s in the game, the fielders better where masks and pads because rockets will be flying all over the place.
The Yankees can not go with Mitre the rest of the way…..Josh Towers is not the answer. In fact, there is no answer. In a perverse way, it would almost be better to be behind the Sox if a pitcher should fall through waivers because if we are in first, the Sox will block any pitcher before he gets to us. We’ve got no depth in the minors -and what are the odds that the staff remains healthy the rest of the year? There has to be something we can do…..
is it just me or are the jays’ announcers a tad on the dull side
Sergio Meat-tray
CB that’s it. A good sinkerball pitcher usually gets the weaker grounders due to contact. The solid contact and hard hit grounders are going to get thru. When Wang is on his sinker is much harder and shatters bats. Mitre’s are just hit solidly and on the turf have plenty of speed to get thru. That’s why the offspeed is so important because without great movement on the sinker you need the hitter to stay offbalance and take weaker hacks.
we need to stop crying about Mitre.. and show a little more support
“The Yankees are 18-6 against starters they have never seen before this season.”
But a lot of those games they got shut down by the starter and then managed to win against the bullpen.
The Braves, Nats, and Marlins alone had about 5 pitchers the Yankees couldn’t hit. They also couldn’t touch a couple rookie starters on the Orioles, and only got wins because of their terrible bullpen.
I see those two clowns dressed as umps back there again. Are they a Toronto thing or do they follow the Yanks?
This isn’t Sergio’s fault. He was brought in to replace Wang.
He mistakenly heard he just had to be better than Wang’s 9.64 ERA
I blame it all on the Mexican translator…
I agree with Patrick that the Yankees made an incredibly short-sighted and ridiculous move by putting Phil in the pen – beyond stupid. They wanted to reward him for pitching well by keeping him up here? That’s nice, except for the fact that they didn’t consider the possibility that things would not go perfectly.
As much as the 5 starter is a problem, the pen is worse. We’ve got two reliable relievers in Mo and Phil. Aceves is hurt and coming back down to earth; Bruney and Robertson can only be used in mop up roles, Melancon is not trustworthy and Coke (who I like, runs hot and cold and gives up a lot of HRs).
they are a Toronto thing, saw a special on espn about em
i’m puppy sitting a jack russel puppy.
i’ve concluded watching the game is going to be a little more difficult than usual.
you wouldn’t think an aluminum mac would taste good to a dog.
The umps were a Toronto thing, but didn’t the Yankees fly them in for a game at the stadium or give them seats. And then they were in Chicago last week.
The fake umps are Blue Jays ticket season holders.
I am so tired of those fake umps. They are beyond annoying.
Molina can’t hit a lick
“are they not currently “in” this game?”
In my mind, being down 4-2 is different from being down 2-0. Even though the run differential is the same, in the first scenario the offense has at least broken through and proven they can score a run off the pitcher.
I’m not saying the Yankees are far behind in this game. I’d just like to see signs that they aren’t going to get shut out by a rookie.
stealing first is so underrated.
did kay just say that cody ransom was a POPULAR guy in the clubhouse and that he thought he found a place where he would stick…
ugh i meant season ticket holders.
An article all about the fake umps:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/0.....ht-of-fan/
are you talking about the guy standing behind the catcher or the ones in the stands
michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
did kay just say that cody ransom was a POPULAR guy in the clubhouse and that he thought he found a place where he would stick…
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Kay isn’t there. That was Flash.
Rzeczynski hasn’t hung a breaking ball yet, if they get a couple of them they will be back in the game. It isn’t like they aren’t getting decent wood on his pitches.
Jerry is pretty fast.
rally time!
Way to go Yankees. Nice base running all around
yesss lets go boyssss
Oh, Derek that could have been bad. If he gets nailed there end of inning and take bat out of Tex’s hands.
Hairston is a good baserunner…
I think the Yankees will toss the Joba rules out the window if he is pitching lights out at his innings limit come September. If not then we need a Harang/Duke type.
I bet that Brad Penny will only last about five 2/3.
CB,
Exactly. Hitters have no trouble squaring up on Mitre’s pitches. That’s a big reason why he is so ineffective.
You can pitch to contact. However, if you do, you have to have enough movement on your pitches to keep hitters from centering the bat on your pitches.
Claggett has started a couple of games this year for Scranton and also has pitched 3-4 innings in several outings.
No reason why he can’t go 4 tonight if needed. He was being used as a quasi-long man for Scranton recently.
Woohoo…this is looking like a Mitre inning. Groundballs finding holes through the infield.
Oh, my bad, thought it was too outs, I’m all worked up about the stupid umps
Goob job by Damon. Good thing Jeter was safe at 3rd…
Nice slide Damon!
Damon taking him out!!!
phew nice hussle
Not sure if he was safe, but I’ll take it.
the speedy Texiera
Tie game. Take Mitre out now while we still can.
sorry i meant flash, i’m so used to writing kay when dumb things are said.
solid baserunning boys
I Love Tex he always runs hard like Jeter…
Cody Ransom might be a nice guy, but he can’t play ball…
Tex. He’s a hustler baby!
Derek’s baserunning got the Yanks a run here, it’s the little things that make a difference. He not only got Ovebay to cut off the throw, then he beat it to set up the second run.
If they decide not to being back Damon, they have to find someone to replace him who plays just as hard, and is as good as doing things like break up the DP. That RBI will go to Tex, but that’s a DP if Damon doesn’t slide hard. Great job by Damon.
A-Rod with some quality at-bats.
This dude loves his curveball
Alex looks at too many called 3rd strikes………….
cmon Mitre, now’s your chance
Can Mitre keep this right where it is?
Someone tell Arod that there’s only one K in Rzeczynski.
Sergio does not throw a heavy ball….Also he has to have real good control in hitting the outside corners…
One thing I wish the Yankees did more often is hit the ball to the opposite field. Jeter, Arod, and Cano are good at it, but there’s still a lot of pull hitters in this lineup (Damon, Posada, Matsui, Tex).
The reason I mention it is because we’ve seen Mitre get killed alot by hitters flaring an outside pitch to the opposite field. With sinkerballs, that’s a recipe for success because simply pulling the pitch often results in a ground out. Tex and Damon got lucky because their ground balls happened to find holes, but those could very well have been DP balls.
one of the things that makes watching this team enjoyable is that they play hard just about every night. They are really underrated when it comes to baserunning and ability to do the right thing in situations that require it. Look at Hairston knowing he was dead at second and making Hill throw him out at first, that is a really big play right now.
Arod and Posada are the worst when it comes to not knowing a pitcher and getting caught thinking too much.
4-1 Tampa
4-1 Rays
“randy l.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
i’m puppy sitting a jack russel puppy.”
don’t give GB any tips.
I don’t want to see his grandkids snacking on Alpo, chewing slippers, and fetching sticks.
They tie the game and now he goes 3-0. Unreal…
Donnie, agree completely. I think the Yankees should offer Damon a one year deal no matter what. They need to OFers in the offseason. Matsui has to go as he is a full time DH. Johnny is one of their best clutch hitters, his swing is perfect for the stadium. He can’t play OF everyday anymore, but shifting him and out of DH and LF. Then you make a run at Carl Crawford the next year who is the only player off the top of my head who could bring the same type of talent. Damon and then target Holliday but at your price, otherwise try to make a deal or take a veteran.
My lips to gods ears, Carl 2 run bomb
Carl Crawford homers
rays 4 – Sox 1
Come on Mitre .. I BELIEVE IN YOU
Crawford swatted one out, off impact penny
who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.
I hope one of the fielders don’t get hurt. Even the outs are hit very hard.
MEAT-TRAYYY
no melting, Mitre…
Two All Stars, two guys making huge money. Teix is busy pulling everything down and away, why – Stupid comes to mind. A Rod in the last three games started hitting to the opposite field, brought his average up twenty points. Today he’s guessing and striking out. Performing Arts brought to you by the Yankee Styling All Stars. It is to weep.
Bad Penny doing what he does best..
Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.
NO WALKS!
we’ll find out tonight if Aceves is OK. If the game is tied or the Yankees ahead in the 5th or 6th he’ll be in the game. If he’s really hurting, it will be someone else. I don’t think Mitre will have a long leash tonight, sneaking a win with the Sox losing would be a bonus.
Anyone know how many Yankees have been thrown out at home this year? Just remember Bobby Meachem at third and the huge difference now. The supporting coaching staff needs a lot of kudos this year.
this mitre experiment has got to end.
jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.
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Baseball Tonight did an excellent bit about how Teixiera’ range allows the Yanks to better position all of their infielders.
Fire Bud Selig
August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.
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Because I’d much rather see TB in the playoffs than the Red Sox…I can’t think of a circumstance in which I would be rooting for the Red Sox
3 innings might be the limit for Mr. Mitre…
Throw strikes damnit!
if Mitre keeps falling behind these hitters, he will get popped soon
Aceves must be hurt, he has disappeared
I would think Mitre lasts 4 2/3 if the Yankees are behind and 5 1/3 if they are ahead.
VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.
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Baseball Tonight did an excellent bit about how Teixiera’ range allows the Yanks to better position all of their infielders.
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wish I saw that, that would have been interesting to watch.
Well push the Sox further out, win the series against the Sox at home. Then let the Rays and Sox fight it out and wear each other down for the wild card. That’s what I would like to see.
fire bud selig, i dont really care who wins in that series because as long as we win, we will be distancing ourselves on one of them no matter what.
Molina baby!
Nice play by hairston there. …… sarcasm
sweet!!!
awesome
just, awesome
molina has a gun..call 911
sick throw molina!
Jose with the GUN!
What a throw by Molina! From his knees and it wasn’t even close at first.
Great play!
Nice tag by Tex…
thank god for molina!
BEAUTIFUL THROW!
thats what makes molina a great backup catcher
another inning from Mitre……
Molina
Molina can’t hit but well damn………. damn and great tag.
Tex on his own has transformed this defense….. and Jeter deserves a ton of credit for increasing his range this year. Robbie is as good as he has been, no mental lapses. Arod is obviously limited at third, not as mobile, but still solid.
Wow, that was a sick throw… and nice tag by Tex
made that throw from his knees……unreal!!
need more runs… mtire isn’t going to be putting up zero’s all night…
Cervie could have done that blindfolded
totally kidding…
Mitre ! another strong inning like that .. and HELLOOOOOO fantasy baseball team
Mitre has started 18 innings so far and has retired the side in order three times.
If Hairston doesn’t get his throws to Cano up and over there quicker, he’s going to get Cano tore up. That’s twice that he’s left him out to dry.
Penny 60 pitches thru three. I hope he gets hit some more early and get their bulpen arms out there again tonight. Wear them down a bit before the series.
A-Rod has gone 59 at-bats without steroid, his longest streak as a Yankee.
“Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.”
Cause people are rooting with their heart and not their head.
“I got a feeling Mitre is going to settle down .
The Yanks will come back and win this”
I just perused the posts but this certainly was a minority post!
So nice to see so much panic in such a short period of time.
Meanwhile I see the Rays are doing their thing.
More happiness showing up for you. As some posters are wont to do when they really don’t want to be around negativity city, see ya later alligator(s). Enjoy the show.
The Jays announcers actually give good props to the Yankees compared to most opposing team’s announcers.
They clearly never attended the Peter Gammons School of Objectivity.
man there r only a few catchers that throw behind runners, and most of em r named molina…kudos
Shouldn’t they know by now that a curveball is coming next????????????????????
Molina saved Mitre as that was ball 3 to Rios.
Time to get Claggett warm now and ready to go.
Its doubtful Mitre can last much longer and Claggett can give them 3-4 innings if necessary.
Would it be acceptable to refer to Edwin Jackson as E-Jack? Would that be too much?
curveball after curveball from this kid
60 pitches already for Penny going into the fourth. I guess my prediction will come true.
Mitre did his part by walking the batter….
Molina did his part by picking him off….
They are working really well together.
“don’t give GB any tips.”
don’t worry about that.
i’m just trying not to be chewed to death.
ok , new game.
come on mitre.
Where are the bats against consonant boy?
Hairston hasn’t been playing third all year so give him sometime. He played 34 games at short and then in the outfield. So it takes a little getting used to and some practice. At least he is fielding those groundballs. So much better than Cody was. Cody made a great play and then would mess up the easy ones.
Can you guys cut Mitre a little slack? He is a fill-in. Just sit back and stop saying he sucks on every pitch
why would Claggett be the 1st one into a tie game? I would think Melancon would get a call first for a couple of innings.
Does this guy have good stuff or are the Yanks just plain ol’ missing…?
da melk hitless since his cycle
Rzepczynski’s opposing BA is under 2.00, he isn’t a stiff…
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
(I was late on his RBI)
The kid is one of the Jays better prospects but they were concerned to bring him up as he is so young. His mechanics look quite good so his repetitive release must look the same on different pitches. He has made some of the Yankees look bad.
They wouldn’t put Melancon into the game in the 4th inning.
If they need to make a change in this inning, it most likely will be Claggett. Especially since he’s only here for a day.
“i’m just trying not to be chewed to death.”
LOL. When I read Jack Russell, I was going to warn you to count your fingers and put on ankle guards.
Mitre sucks. He got a first pitch out.
1 pitch 1 out niiiice
Mitre has actually settled down a little since the 1st inning, with the bottom of the order coming up he could get through 5.
Ye of little faith. Mitre is going for the win!
clagget would come in for multiple innings if Mitre came out early. Every other guy would use them up for the Sox series. Hughes threw 30 something pitches yesterday so won’t be there. Aceves needs the rest. Everyone else would have to go one or two innings which burns them out if Joba doesn’t go deep into the game. It makes sense to let Clagget eat up some innings and leave it up to the Yankees offense to bail them out.
the way Mitre’s fastball moves left to right I’m surprised they don’t jam more of the right handed hitters, it seems like every pitch is supposed to be away.
Price no walks tonight, he is starting to put it together. Hopefully Kazmir and Price didn’t get their act together.
I really don’t get how the yanks are getting owned by this Rzep guy and he literally throws one pitch over and over.
If only A-Rod would go with the pitch or hit to the opposite field occasionally he would add 20 ot better points to his average in 2 weeks.
With him it’s the fences or nothing.
Hard to believe all of the stories written and words spoken about how “smart” a move signing Brad Penny was in the offseason.
Low risk. Low cost. High “upside” move. Genius. Management is everything in baseball. You can literally win a world series in boston through sheer will of administration.
Gammons saying that Penny was the sox, cheaper version of signing AJ Burnett was a classic.
John Flaherty is a terrible announcer.
good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!
Mitre out!
time for action in the Yankees bullpen…
Alan you must be blind
that looked like a pretty good pitch
That pitch was a strike. Come on Mitre get out of this inning…
CB, Gammons always has his classics.
Like having his Cy Young pick years ago Matt Clement when the Sox signed him for ESPN. Not Santana, CC or Halladay. Matt Clement.
How can anyone take him seriously. He must make a ton at ESPN otherwise just take your dream job and work at NESN
Carl
August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
John Flaherty is a terrible announcer.
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I agree. He is very boring
Yankee pitchers have walked the 9 hitter like five million times this year.
maybe he can get him with the breaking ball here, he throws it so rarely it fools the hitters
CB,
I’ll go one better. Both Gammons and Joel Sherman said John Smoltz would be the most “dominating pitcher in the AL by September” when he was signed.
You would have thought the Sox signed Koufax and Drysdale.
Claggett time to start warming up…
Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!
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Now at 7.
Erica,
John talks like he never wants to make a mistake in the booth. Then again, who doesn’t. He needs to loosen his tie a little bit. John is too “by the book” for me.
three good innings from Mitre!!!
gj sergio
It is like playing with danger every batter and every inning.
I’ve never heard such clamoring for a pitcher with an ERA higher than Mt. Everest before, it’s pretty funny…
Man I think anyone on this blog could run on Jason Varitek
If Mitre can get thru one more solid inning he hasn’t been great, but 5 innings 2 runs was a solid effort even if you ideally want more length.
ATTA WAY Mitre!!! Just get thru 6! Go Yanks!!
VT Yankeefan
August 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!
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Now at 7.
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How about the Yankees get some now
Mitre survives another shaky inning.
19 innings as a Yankee, retired the side in order 3 times.
Definitely playing with fire.
Good Job Mitre !!..
Mitre’s pitch count is 83…let someone else start the 5th inning.
I wouldn’t trust Bobby Meachem to stand behind my car giving directions as I parallel parked it.
“Keep going, plenty of space, you got…”
CRASH!!
“Ok, stop”
The game is a little boring without Kay, but that’s mostly because I miss the fake michael kay tweets. That guy is flat out hilarious.
Rzepczynski definitely has a good breaking ball, I can see why the Jays like him and took him from AA to the rotation within a season.
Clagget was pretty ugly when he was up last time. I wouldn’t really want to see him today. Let’s get another solid inning from Mitre and then maybe see how Clagget looks with a quick hook for Robertson
Eduardo Nunez hit a homer off of Pedro Martinez, tonight. Trenton down 4-2 and Martinez has 11 strikeouts.
OMG that was a ball.
Flaherty is pretty funny trying not to mispronounce “that” name. i thought it was funny, too, when Kenny was teasing him about what he’d do if he had to say Saltalamacchia and “that” name in the same game.
Flaherty is a little dry, but he’s smart and isn’t afraid to be critical.
Do anything against this guy! PLEASE!
it’s safe to say that Jorge will be pinch hitting for Molina later in the game if anyone gets on base and the Jays haven’t made a pitching change.
Saltalamacchia is one of the greatest names in baseball.
His name is so long that ont he back of his uniform the letters are in his armpits
molina is awful at the plate lol just awful
GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Eduardo Nunez hit a homer off of Pedro Martinez, tonight. Trenton down 4-2 and Martinez has 11 strikeouts.
I like Nunez. I’m sure a lot of those players are in awe because that its Pedro.
Can you imagine an All Star game in the future where Rcepczynski and Salty are the battery? It makes you yearn for an announcing team of Haray Caray and Bob Uecker.
ok – that’s it…I play softball in high school…give me a chance at this guy…
just kidding, but really…that was a VERY quick inning
This definitely looks like the we haven’t seen this guy before problem. This guy has 2 pitches. The curveball is the only one he can get over the plate most of the time. They seem lost on what pitch he will be throwing.
oooops…that should be playED – I haven’t been in high school for a long time
Jays have been able to cultivate a good amount of pitching talent. Guys have gotten hurt, but the last few years. Marcum and McGowan. Cecil and this kid are very young. Romero. Richmond. Pretty nice crop of young pitching talent.
That looks like the game with Sandy Koufax on the mound.
Jays lead 3-2
that was a batting practice fastball hit by Lind.
“Flaherty is a little dry, but he’s smart and isn’t afraid to be critical.”
Sean Casey on MLB Network said he would never forget how hard it is to play the game when he talks about players and games now that he’s a member of the media.
He should share that thought with Flaherty because he makes things seem like they should be easy.
Yeah, Nunez is now 2-3 with 2 RBI. A couple of Reading errors helped them tie the game at 4-4. Old Pete just can’t beat the Yankees at any level. These Yankees just call him “cuzin”.
yikes
Sooner or later it was bound to happen because he isn’t missing many bats.
Time to get him out now before it gets out of hand.
Claggett can go 3-4. Might as well use him while the game is still close.
I was going to say that Girardi should be going batter to batter with Mitre. I thought the batter to batter would be a single not a batting practice 80mph fastball homerun. Get someone up in the bullpen.
Cannot start walking guys here. Gave up a solo shot. Shake it off.
I don’t like pushing Aceves in here today if he hasn’t been completely healthy. What was the point of bringing up Clagget?
Ugh- does that mean Russ Ortiz starts in 5 days???
Mitre did better than what I expected, so good job by him
Stayed one batter too long with him again. Fortunately, that wasn’t another HR because that was an awful pitch.
Hopefully, this experiment has reached a conclusion.
If its going to be an open tryout for the spot, its time to try somebody else.
I was hoping Mitre could do better, he has to improve….the Yanks can’t get 4 innings from their 5th starter everytime out
all things considered – this is much better than I expected from Mitre…now the Bats need to show up
5 days it will be Sir Sydney Ponson resigned haha
here’s where we find out if Aceves is OK or not, if he is, don’t be surprised to see him in the rotation the next time a #5 starter is needed. Mitre, with one pitch, definitely isn’t the answer.
Nice pitchers’ duel between J-Guth and E-Jack.
I don’t like using Aceves here. I would of brought in Claggett to see what he has. With Ace’s arm problems he should be a one inning guy right now. Girardi is definitely going to push him more than that. They will need him for the Sox series.
I don’t like pushing Aceves in here today if he hasn’t been completely healthy. What was the point of bringing up Clagget?
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Exactly! Would rather only have to use Aceves for 1 or 2 innings tonight…now we may need 3 innings from him. Makes his availability for the Boston series (at least the first 3 games) doubtful.
So…are we only going with Aceves because we’re only down 1? Is this to see if he can hack it, so that we can use him in the second or third game against Boston?
Gotta use Clagget at some point this game. Can’t bring him up and not use him.
Did anyone end up taking a chance with Mark Mulder this year? Not that he would work because he will take a while beforing being able to pitch but just curious if like Sheets he is waiting until next year now.
The Phranchise
August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
5 days it will be Sir Sydney Ponson resigned haha
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I forgot about that inevitable date with Ponson the Yankees have
I dont’ like that first pitch from Aceves
The short hook should be out of the bag now. Let’s not let this one go!!
Donnie – Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O’Neill Banner
August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
So…are we only going with Aceves because we’re only down 1? Is this to see if he can hack it, so that we can use him in the second or third game against Boston?
Gotta use Clagget at some point this game. Can’t bring him up and not use him.
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Of course they can Donnie. The Yankees love to do that!
They can hit Halladay, but they can’t hit this guy? This is a terrific offense, but at times it’s baffling
92 pitches, 10 baserunners, and 3 runs, responsible for Overbay on first, in 4+ innings for Mitre.
That ain’t worthy of another start. Hopefully, the Yankees feel the same way.
Well Aceves is in, I guess that means we’ll be seeing Hughes and then Rivera……Hope not with the Boston series around the corner…..I guess we’re going to see if Ace nad his arm is ready for the final 1/3 of the season……
this is a good spot for Aceves, we have to get him going again, he hasn’t pitched in a while
I thought the point of bringing Claggett up was to fill the gap if Mitre couldn’t go deep? but here’s Aceves anyway?
I guess Joe was thinking about using Claggett as a mop up guy if the game got out of hand but since its only a 1 run game he figures bring in Aceves to better the chances of winning…i don’t know.
Using Aceves here? Why? What a waste……in case the game is close late, does he want to use Claggett? LOL
I know people are looking for starters thru the waiver wire, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Yankees land a few overpaid relievers which would free up Aceves to get healthy and start. It would be Towers for a few starts in the interim though. Towers can’t be worse than Mitre at this point. Equally bad, maybe
Betsy- So true.
Nice breaking ball
Betsy
August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
They can hit Halladay, but they can’t hit this guy? This is a terrific offense, but at times it’s baffling
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I was arguing with my friend the Astros fan in Houston last week about how the Yankees usually do badly in interleague because they seem to stuggle against pitchers they have never seen
He said it was the most absurd excuse he has ever heard.
Now that I think about it, I am not sure I have heard from him since….
Yikes, a few of those Aceves breaking balls should have been smoked. That last one looked like a hanger
The Yankees are using Aceves because they’re down by just 1 run.
Claggett was insurance in case Mitre totally bombed and gave up 5 runs in 2 innings. The Yankees are actually trying to win this game.
Aceves may be back!!
Wow, that was a sick curve for strike three. Nice pitch by Ace.
Sit curveball. That’s all this kid is throwing. Just wait for it, and drill it.
Aceves is either OK or he’s not OK. If he’s OK he should be the #5 starter, he’s better than any of the other options.
If he’s not OK, he should be on the DL, it doesn’t matter if he pitches one inning or four, if he’s hurt he shouldn’t pitch because it will get only worse. So holding him out for the Sox series makes no sense because he’s still an unknown until he shows he’s OK.
I’m not mad that they brought in Aceves. I think it’s a question of seeing if he can give you anything before the Boston series. What, I will be mad about is if he GI Joe throws him in there for another inning,that makes his aviabilty questionable for the upcoming series.
why cant people understand why they are using aceves…joe knws he can win this game…they arnt gonna throw claggett out there and pray he does good…this game is just as important as tomorrows game or the day after..
Can someone post the yankee record against pitchers they have never seen before again?
This is a winnable game – no use risking Claggett letting it get out of hand. I think he was “blow-out” insurance, not “close game” insurance
They didn’t really “hit” Halladay Betsy, until later in the game. Those 3 solo HR’s were late in the game.
For most of the game, Doc was Doc and they took advantage of some mistakes.
This kid has pitched well so far. He’s got a great curveball and can pitch to all 4 quadrants of the plate with it. That’s going to make it tough on hitters.
He was one of their best pitching prospects for a reason. He’s got a nice game.
They didn’t really “hit” Halladay Betsy, until later in the game. Those 3 solo HR’s were late in the game.
For most of the game, Doc was Doc and they took advantage of some mistakes.
This kid has pitched well so far. He’s got a great curveball and can pitch to all 4 quadrants of the plate with it. That’s going to make it tough on hitters.
He was one of their best pitching prospects for a reason. He’s got a nice game.
There is something very comforting about seeing a pop-up toward the third baseman and then remembering Arod is the DH.
RS
August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
The Yankees are using Aceves because they’re down by just 1 run.
Claggett was insurance in case Mitre totally bombed and gave up 5 runs in 2 innings. The Yankees are actually trying to win this game.
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You are right!
If the game is close late, we’re not going to see Claggett…..or Melancon or anyone other than Phil or Mo. Stupid
time to get the lead
Did that guy just try to kill MPB Johnny Damon?!?!?1
wow so close
Johnny D’s life just before Eric’s eyes.
I hate Vernon Wells
i hate vernon wells.
Wells is annoying. If there is one thing he can do is still play defense.
Well, that was worth changing my tag.
lol erica
seriously say what you want that Wells cant hit anymore…but he makes at least one rob job on the Yankees every game he plays in
Damn you Wells
At least for $20m a year Wells can still field. The Jays should be happy about that…
I hate that guy
I stand corrected. In an earlier post I said Mitre wouldn’t survive 3 innings and he threw 4 1/3 innings. His audition however, may be over.
game set match vernon wells
I would think Girardi is looking for 3 innings out of Aceves tonight. If they get a lead, they have Bruney, Robertson, and Coke late in the game and Melancon if it’s tied or close.
I don’t see Claggett in the game unless they are behind by a few runs, what has he done to earn anything else.
Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes
Vernon Wells may not be able to hit anymore but, he can still play a great CF.
That’s 3 great catches he has made against the Yankees this year. That was quite a catch.
let’s get a run
Erica – always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Did that guy just try to kill MPB Johnny Damon?!?!?1
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Serenity now!
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes
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No joke. You should have heard my gasp when that ball went for Johnny’s head
who’s this guy on YES who sounds like Cliff from Cheers?
so which genius on this blog said wells was terrible in the OF? Looked pretty good the last 2 nights and a few weeks ago at NYS…
True, SJ – but they did take advantage of the few mistakes Doc made. It’s just weird that they can do that against Doc and not against this guy……..but then again, I admit that it’s easier to blame the Yankees offense instead of crediting the other pitcher.
Another rookie having a career night against the Yanks?
7 K’s in 5 2/3. Good job Yanks.
if the yankees don’t do better with Rzepczynski, it won’t matter who’s pitching.
with a little offense, things would be looking a lot better.
That was a gift by the blue…..
damn a-rod, just missed it
damn a-rod, just missed it
umm he needed roids for that one
This would be a good game to use Melancon. It’s fine to put Aceves in but I’d like him to be available for boston and he’s had a bad shoulder.
The Jays offense is good but it’s not overly dangerous.
Girardi is not going to use Melancon against boston. Use him tonight and save some of Aceves’s bullets.
They cannot have a bull pen where only 4 pitchers are in the circle of trust that has to be entered in order to pitch in a close game.
Not sure if I should turn this game off. Can they at least run the count up on this immortal?(sarcasm)
Betsy,
That’s baseball. Its not a sport one can predict based on pitching matchups.
For example, there were hundreds of posts on here “guaranteeing” two losses for the Yankees because Buerhle and Halladay were pitching and the Yankees won both games.
This game is still a game at 3-2.
Its an impossible sport to predict and people look foolish every year trying to do so.
Nice deke by Crawford on the V-mart homer.
The point of it eludes me, though.
dudes pitching a good game…there are still 3 innings left and its a 1 run game though…im not giving the W to marc just yet
Erica – always OPPC
August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
GreenBeret7
August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes
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No joke. You should have heard my gasp when that ball went for Johnny’s head
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We did. It sounded like a freight train.
this rookie can pitch, Opposing BA of .194, ERA of 3.25, already beat the Sox giving up 1 run in 6 innings.
The game isn’t over, of course, he’s unlikely to go more than 6 or 7, the bullpen isn’t overpowering.
I can’t believe Dave Roberts on NESN compared Jed Lowrie to Jeter. LOL ! That is such a joke.
The kid isn’t having a career night, he’s just good. He beat the Sox and he gave up one run in seven innings against the Rays. Needs to get some credit here. Yankees need it close, get to the pen and have Matsui and Jorge on the bench.
two nice curve balls from Ace
I can’t imagine Ace having major shoulder issues throwing so many breaking balls.
Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?
Al,
Perhaps you can give the pitcher some credit. He’s throwing a good game and he’s been helped by his defense.
Its not always the lack of offense. Sometimes, the pitcher is just throwing a good game. It happens.
now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies
Al from BK
August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?
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How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.
Mitre sucks!!!
Bite, Life, Stuff. I’m John Flaherty.
a nice quick inning here and hopefully making Rzepczynski come back out quickly coupled with his high pitch count will make him a more vulnerable. Lets go Yanks, get to this guy!
Aceves rocks!
Aceves looks much better than he has recently. His curve particularly.
Still not back up to baseline but he looks better.
He might not be cut out to pitch out of the pen. Some guys don’t do well with it physically.
“Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?”
Because Ace’s last appearance wasn’t pretty, AND it was quite a few days ago. It’s better to use him now, see how he fares, as well as give him a chance to shake off some rust. He’ll be ready to go by the second or third game.
Ace is fine, how can he not take Mitre’s place in the rotation if he’s throwing this well?
I am very relieved seeing Aceves throwing this well. I hope Girardi doesn’t leave him out too long. But that was a nice quick inning. Get right back out there after htis kid
Is it really wasting Aceves? I don’t think so, you have to see what he has, he hasn’t pitched in awhile. Saving him for BoSox series won’t help if you don’t know if he’s 100%.
Ace looks like he is close to being back
It’s amazing what throwing strikes will do.
i think its safe to say ace feels kinda good
Well done Alfredo sauce.
Rishi
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies
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Glad the laptop is safe. I would hate to see it die a victim of overreacting
“Bite, Life, Stuff. I’m John Flaherty.”
I swear to God, if that was a t-shirt, I would buy and wear it.
“How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.”
Trailing in the 7th, cannot touch the opposing pitcher. Why not leave ALL the bullets in the chamber for the sox series? Especially with his “tired” arm we might not see Ace again until Saturday.
I totally want a Yankees calculator. I am an accountant!
Accountants use calculators.
(That’s my motto when people realize i can’t do 95494/9 in my head)
Has anyone seen a lot of Kroenke??? Does he have enough to be effective for us in the pen this year ? I know he isn’t overpowering, just curious if he is capable of filling the long relief role?
Swish baby
SWISHHHHH
SUPER SWISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
swishy
SWISHERLICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
Pete called it!
Erica – always OPPC
August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Rishi
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies
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Glad the laptop is safe. I would hate to see it die a victim of overreacting
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I guess the exaggeration doesn’t come across so well on the internet – walking the light-hitting #9s is a total pet peeve
Swish!!
Woo Hoo Swish!
SWISH!!!
yea
CB
August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Aceves looks much better than he has recently. His curve particularly.
Still not back up to baseline but he looks better.
He might not be cut out to pitch out of the pen. Some guys don’t do well with it physically.
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Aceves has always been a starter, pitching out of the ‘pen can really grind you down because you get up and down so frequently plus you never have a regular throwing schedule. I believe that Mo only throws when he is going into a game but how many pitchers can maintain their control and command like he does. It’s a little easier for him, of course, because he isn’t throwing many different pitches. Ace has 4 pitches, it must be really tough to maintain command when he never gets to throw a side session.
wow great call Peter
SWISHALICIOUS!!
Swisher is swinging the bat much better lately. Would help during the Sox series. Maybe Hairston and Hinske are pushing him a bit too.
Al,
How many times has this team come back.
It’s pointless giving up on this offenses’s ability to come back.
At least he crushes them on the road.
Swishy!
Trailing in the 7th? It’s a ONE RUN GAME. Last time I checked we still play to win.
This is the furthest that Rzepczynski has pitched all year.
Rally time!
I thought he caught that!!
4th home run on the road trip by Swish.
how do you not get a triple????
dont swing at the 1st pitch
Make that a TIE GAME!
All of a sudden they can see the pitches?
3rd time through the order seems to be the charm with this guy, they have hit some shots this time around.
wasnt hustling
You’re out of K’s, Rsaprzasski!
Al, I thought the game was over, save all the bullets, yada yada yada.
CB,
Good point. If that’s the case, he could be the 5th starter and that will give Melancon a chance for significant innings work down the stretch.
Mark may end up being an important contributor down the stretch if he replaces Ace in the pen, allowing Ace to go into the rotation.
Great, clutch HR by Swish! New ballgame.
“How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.”
Trailing in the 7th, cannot touch the opposing pitcher. Why not leave ALL the bullets in the chamber for the sox series? Especially with his “tired” arm we might not see Ace again until Saturday.
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We just touched the opposing pitcher….this game is still winnable, you’ve got to do what you can to win this game
Since when did Aceves have major shoulder issues?
He had a tired/sore shoulder. I doubt they’d bring him back if it was a major shoulder issue.
Aceves deserves the credit for a great inning pitch and deserves the credit for getting this kid right back out there with no rest for them to hop on him. I wanted Claggat, but that’s why I am not a manager. Aceves was obviously the best call and has completely changed the complection of this game. If they win he gets the belt no matter what happens now.
“Al, I thought the game was over, save all the bullets, yada yada yada.”
I would hold off on the chest thumping. Let’s see if they get Cano in now.
Al,
You pitch Ace in a 3-2 game, not in a 10-2 game.
This is still a winnable game.
“Ace has 4 pitches, it must be really tough to maintain command when he never gets to throw a side session.”
MG,
He’s been great out of the pen. But I think he’s a starter.
And he might need to get slotted back into the rotation soon.
Call up Kroenke and put him in the pen. Give Wilkins De La Rosa a shot out of the pen or even Ivan Nova. Those guys aren’t ready to start but they might be ok coming out of the pen for 1-2 innings.
If you’re going to hold off on the chest thumping, can you hold off on the wrist slashing too?
Melk man tries to bunt a ball in his eyes, not the best idea
pl
You do not make the first out at 3rd. nothing do with hustle
PL
August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
how do you not get a triple????
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Typical BS. If he can’t make it standing up why chance it with Rios’ arm?
I miss Michael Kay
Why bunt with a man on 2nd and no outs. Just pull the ball.
They don’t teach bunting in our system?
wow stop bunting
Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
pl
You do not make the first out at 3rd. nothing do with hustle
yea but would he have been out?
good job melky…come on jerry!
This is a game where you wish Gardner was around, on turf and can lay down a bunt.
But nice job by the Melk man getting that done
See Melky that’s all you have to do.
lets go godzillllla
CB, I’ve said for weeks that Aceves should be in the rotation. He is a starter by training and experience and knows how to pitch. I’m guessing the Yankees essentially shut him down in the bullpen and had him throw a couple of side sessions to get ready in case Mitre sucked again tonight. Now he’s pitched a couple of good innings, one more and you take him out and have him ready to go 5 the next time you need a 5th starter.
GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
PL
August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
how do you not get a triple????
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Typical BS. If he can’t make it standing up why chance it with Rios’ arm?
Beacuse it’s not Rios arm its Aaron hills arm
“PHILTHY PHIL: Phil Hughes has 37 strikeouts in 29.1 innings of relief.”
That’s like 11.44 Ks per 9 innings… CRAZY!!!
Huh, Al? You said they could not touch the guy. They tied the game. Boy, I bet you wish Claggett had come in the game, right?
Sui!
yesssssir..this guy is the best with risp
Yes! We got some situational hitting in a close game.
noyce
5-2 Tampa
SJ,
I think you have to bite the bullet and get Aceves back into the rotation.
They really could use him in the pen. But just like Hughes they there’s only 1 of him.
And I do worry that he’s just not cut out for the grind out of the pen.
He wore out pretty quickly coming out of the pen. It’s not like his shoulder gave out at the end of the season.
Put him in the rotation. Give melancon more innings. Try calling someone up and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.
I’d consider calling up De La Rosa – he’s not ready to be a big league starter but I could see him being effective for 1-2 innings at a time as he empties the tank.
Ha, how the heck does Iglett not get to that????? Infield in and was he playing that deep in the opposite field????? I will take it.
wow, we just saw a worse outfielder than both Damon and Hinske. Thanks, Jays…
MG
August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
wow, we just saw a worse outfielder than both Damon and Hinske. Thanks, Jays…
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I was just thinking that. I really think Damon would have made that catch. Or died trying.
Hmm- another team just walked our #9 hitter
so, does hinske play 3rd or does Alex go over and we lose the DH?
I’m assuming Girardi is reading this and will answer me.
I doubt they will put Hinske at 3rd with a lead, you put in Arod and pinch hit for the pitcher the next time through the order-they could easily do a double switch with Posada.
Derek is going to drive a first pitch fastball into the gap
HA he walks jose lol really
straight heat…wow
Looks like A Rod w/a strong game, getting ready for the Sox series
Jeter had no shot in that AB.
Or miss all the fastballs down the pipe and k.
Either or.
Wow. You don’t see that from Jeet often.
Jeter has not seen the ball well the last two nights, very unusual for him.
Jeter’s not having his best night ever at the plate.
CB,
I agree. Here’s the way I see it.
While Melancon may not be completely ready for primetime yet, he is more ready to assume that role than Mitre is to assume the 5th starters role.
If you put Ace in the rotation, you lessen one headache. It also may be easier to find a functional bullpen arm (if you need one) via the waiver wire or in AAA than it is finding a starter at this point.
wth DJ..right down the middle and not that fast
he walks molina then strikes out Jeter.
Its a funny game, that baseball.
Jetes whiffs….
Damon will hit a 3 run homer.
Uh Jete? Its ok. He’s saving up his energy for the weekend. I’m dreaming of a walk-off HR of Papelbon
PL
It was Rios. Cano would have been out. The fact that he just scored should tell you something.
Brian from PA
August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
he walks molina then strikes out Jeter.
Its a funny game, that baseball.
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K-Rod walked Mariano Rivera and then struck out Tex.
Thats good enough. GJ DAMON!
Ha Barajas drops another ball. I love him
Speedy Godzilla, they never had a chance!
the speedy Sui
Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.
Barajas is allergic to handling the ball when he has the out by a mile.
o god lets hope matsui didn’t blow his knee out lol
Go Johnny, GO!
It turned out happy- but what was Rob Thompson thinking with Matsui running???
I wonder who would win a 40 yard dash between Matsui and Molina-maybe they would both pull up before the finish lol
WOW, that’s a bad send. That was worse than the send on A-Rod last night. Is Barajas ALWAYS this sketchy?
I hope Matsui is not hurt.
holy cow, that was lucky. Matsui was SO out!
lucky break there as Godzilla scores.
Matsui should be sponsored by Bengay.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome and Clutch!!!!
LOL! Matsui is soooo slow! Can’t believe Barajas.
wow what a terrible terrible terrible play by barajas
put it away Tex
Teix could hit one out right here…
RDm,
You were strangely absent last night when Arod got a big, 2 out hit against Halladay.
Always good to see you back with more moronic posts.
Looks like Francona is going to try and save his pen and let Penny put this game completely out of reach. Isn’t he one fifth of the Sox really deep rotation we have heard about all year?
Johnny Dangerously
It hurts me to watch Matsui run.
this game is making me so happy.
Tex baby! wooo! Rally!
WOOOT! Lets take this one out of their grasp! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Let ‘er rip!
Yeah Tex
Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
PL
It was Rios. Cano would have been out. The fact that he just scored should tell you something.
Not that it matters because they scored, but it in fact was Rios who hit the cut off man who was Hill.
NYY626
August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.
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Is this a surprise to anyone??
TEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Yankees like that 7th inning
2 out hits. Who are these guys haha
hitting with RISP, i loveeeee it
HR from A-Rod? Its been a while.
A Rod hits a homer here and we pitch Clagget
Rally Killer is up….K or ground out…
Give him one of those Jeter pitches and it will be gone
I guess you could say signing Tex was a decent move..
Jeter is hitting around .320 overall.
YES just flashed a stat that he’s hitting .347 in the 7th inning and later. Flaherty and Singleton remarked about how Jeter was getting the job done late in the game.
That late in the game stat is supposed to signify some aspect of the player being “clutch.”
But the 7th inning and later is correlated with something else, especially for the yankees.
The yankees have worn starters out this year with patience.
They are almost always in the other team’s pen by the 7th inning or so.
Relief pitchers are systematically worse than starters.
As we are seeing tonight with the jays.
Why is it such a surprise that he’s hitting somewhat better from the 7th innin and on. He’s facing worse pitching.
Love Matsui, two bad knees and still giving his all.
Nice job Tex and Damon….
Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?
2-0 pitch, there she goes
this is a really good development-they get a win tonight with awful starting pitching and the Sox are losing plus wearing out their bullpen again.
Absolutely no excuses if they fall short against the Sox over the weekend.
Erica – always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.
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Is this a surprise to anyone??
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Of course not. Let’s hope it continues and he sticks it to his old teammates tomorrow
Interesting to see what Girardi does if Arod doesn’t bring in a run here.
Does he go with Ace, Hughes, and Mo to lock the game down? Or does he trust one of the other guys with a 3 run lead?
That had 3run HR written all over it.
Is the pitcher Roeneke related to Gary? Roeneke who played for Orioles. Wow! I liked Gary. Speaking of the O’s, Hairston Jr. is doing very well – he looks like he belongs.
I think Godzilla yelled “HA” in Japanese and Barajas dropped the ball – those Blue Jays fall for that trick every year.
Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?
Def without a doubt…youth and vets
Damon hates the Sox
Oh well. A walk is better than an out.
I would love to see Swish hit a granny
Tom in N.J.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?
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If they had a number 5 starter, I would feel a lot better
Swish, how about a 5 rbi inning?
bases loaded for Swishy. Can they blow this game open?
I admit that I forgot that Aceves has been a starter his whole career. He’s really valuable in the pen, but on the other hand, running these sad starters out there on a constant basis is killing the pen anyway… I don’t think I’d trust more kids in the pen, but we may just have to make the best of a bad situation (and that would be Ace in the rotation)
I doubt we’d see Hughes tonight and rightfully so.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
I think Godzilla yelled “HA” in Japanese and Barajas dropped the ball – those Blue Jays fall for that trick every year.
lol
LOL! Swish grabbing Damon.
Arod being selective. That is what I like to see.
Swisher swinging the bat well. Let’s go
I was wrong about the Sox burning out their bullpen tonight-Penny has thrown over 110 pitches and is taking one for the team. That should tell you Francona is concerned about the next 4 games.
that pitch was high
Get those damn “fan umps” ejected. They’re sooooo annoying!
Hughes should not pitch tonight. 30 something pitches yesterday. Need him tomorrow. Plenty of arms out there with this lead. Bruney will be in the eight, maybe coke for a batter or two.
Johnny D.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Get those damn “fan umps” ejected. They’re sooooo annoying!
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If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly
The baseball game would be rated R for violence
Why is swisher taking that ridiculous hack at the ball.
Just drive a run in. That will make all of the difference in this game.
Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.
That was strike 3
WOOOOW! Swish got a lucky call.
Let’s see Melancon in the 9th!
“tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.”
:rolleyes: Why are you here?
the umps behind the plate throwing the ball back to the invisable pitcher..that is really great
good at bat for Swish.
Second that, I wanna see Melancon
“If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly
The baseball game would be rated R for violence”
Same here. 2 bozos.
Swung at ball 4.
ITS A GRAND SWISH! oh wait he missed it
damn swinging for a grandslam every time doesn’t always work
Ball 4 swish, ball 4. But thanks for the HR!
Dangggg itt swish..fell for that pitch 3 times and missed
The trolls have lost interest in getting swept by the Rays. Don’t want to see Penny get up to a 150 pitches tonight???
That was a sucker pitch
What was Swisher swinging at?
Oh well, 4 runs is good. It would have been nice to score an extra run on a walk and get out of save territory, though…
Al from BK
August 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
“If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly
The baseball game would be rated R for violence”
Same here. 2 bozos.
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But I am a girl so they can’t hit me back. I would get all ninja style on them!
And throw stuff!
Ew, Swish, what was that? NOT a good swing at a pitch not really all that close to the zone.
Penny at 117 pitches. Francona is crazy to send him out for another inning. If so, the Rays will hit him silly.
The ying and yang of Nick Swisher. Hits a clutch HR and strikes out on ball 4 a foot off the plate.
That’s pretty much his career as an all or nothing hitter.
Time to get 9 outs and win this game.
he wasn’t happy after swinging at that pitch but did tie the game, no complaints from me.
Swisher doesn’t adjust his approach at the plate for the context of the game at all.
He tries to hit a grand slam on ball 4 of a game in which another run would completely change the way they would have to use their bull pen the game before they play boston.
thats a great pitch right…takes some balls to throw that 3-2 bases loaded
Johnny D.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
“tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.”
:rolleyes: Why are you here?
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umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
If you were a betting man, what would you do?
How classic Big Papi still trying to find out what he tested positive for.
You know what you did you big Phonny, some dominican milkshakes.
Ace smells a win here…
Seriously? You cant get on Swish for that. That was a gutsy pitch to throw with the bases loaded and 3-2 count.
Canadian feed showing Kate Hudson in a luxury box.
Did she stop making movies and turn into a Yankee groupie?
“But I am a girl so they can’t hit me back. I would get all ninja style on them!
And throw stuff!”
One of the many benefits of being a woman. I kid!
Actually, the 2003 and 2004 teams were also very, very good – never out of games. 2003 – WS. 2004 – I don’t recall the ending.
“If you were a betting man, what would you do?”
Take tonight’s run line at +140.
Can they make it hold up???
I think they brought Clagget up to use in case the game was a blow out. Since the Yankees have a chance to win the game, they might as well go for it. Also, it will be good to see what Aceves can give them since his last time out in Chicago wasn’t very good.
Aceves? Would have went with either Melancon or Robertson. Stay away from Hughes 26 pitches last night and the Sox coming up.
Big Papi still trying to find out what he tested positive for………..reminds me of OJ still trying to find the real killers………..
“Seriously? You cant get on Swish for that. ”
For what? Corkscrewing himself into the ground on a ball well out of the zone with the bases loaded?
Quality at bat for the on base percentage machine.
ewwwwww
Scutaro is so pesky
Somewhere along the line Giradi is going to need to trust Bruney & Melachon….We’re reaching the final turn of the season and before you know it the stretch run in September will be upon us……
What the heck?!
unbelievable – Marco Scutaro
get Aceves out
they can still use him by Friday if they get him out now
did he really call back to back change ups?
Time to pull him. Don’t want to waste him. His command is gone, and he’s either in the dirt, or up.
5 to 3 Rays now
A Rod…LOL
Ace shook off Molina twice to throw the changeup.
Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.
He took a page from Manny, let’s find out exactly what they have on me out of what I actually did and then formulate a story to try and make it seem like it was totally innocent. I am shocked, well except for when the players association told me I tested positive years ago. So much going on, I forgot about that.
Please stay away from Hughes
Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
did he really call back to back change ups?
I think Posada called them from the bench
It’s official:
Scouts have Rasnerized Aceves.
Go to Coke to pitch to Lind.
Again, Aceves had a tired arm. Why leave him in here to get tired again ???
SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Ace shook off Molina twice to throw the changeup.
Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.
Oh ok he shook him off. I thought Molina put it down.
Good time to get Aceves out.
umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
If you were a betting man, what would you do?
Well if you had any common sense, statistics would dictate that the Yankees are due to win a few games v. the Sox.
Oh please, CB, Jeter did the same thing and you didn’t peep. You and SJ both have blind spots with Swisher. He can do no right.
Rasernized. I like it. Is that on Urban Dictionary????
“umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
If you were a betting man, what would you do?”
They’re both different teams from the last time they played on June 11th.
If the Yanks can get to Smoltz early tomorrow, they can really hammer the Sox pen for the series.
they are still operating without a longman and it looks like they’ll be worked a bit for the second game in a row tonight.
“Somewhere along the line Giradi is going to need to trust Bruney & Melachon…”
There’s a rule that only 4 pitchers in the pen can pitch in a close game.
If you are not going to try to give Coke and Aceves a break and give another pitcher a chance in a game against the Jays then when are you going to?
Coke in for his 50th appearance of the year. 3rd most in the AL.
Nothing of the sort. He shook off Molina and threw a bad changeup. That’s it. He also got some big outs in the game.
As far as the Swisher AB, if your greatest strength as a hitter is your eye, swinging from the heels on ball 4, which would have delivered another run, is not a good AB.
That’s just who he is as a hitter. Its why he is so poor with RISP.
I don’t know guys, I appreciate the fact Mitre did not give up his usual 5 runs, but, 8 hits, 2 walks, and 92 pitches in 4.1 innings doesn’t cut it for me.
I hope we have seen the last of the Mitre experiment, I really do. I know the kid is trying, but not everyone is cut out to be a MLB pitcher.
I don’t know what the answer is for that fifth starter, but Mitre is no longer an option in my opinion.
If I were a betting man, I would bet you got bored watching Penny get shelled and couldn’t find any friends to console you, so you decided to completely waste your time and come on here.
Phil “the pointer” Coke
Johnny Damon catching fly balls now scares me like when Sheff couldn’t ift his arm and was catching fly balls with one hand off to the side of his body.
Think Coke pointing was bad, anyone catch Bard pointing on the Longoria homer??? Evan crushed that
GJ Coke
The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Johnny Damon catching fly balls now scares me like when Sheff couldn’t ift his arm and was catching fly balls with one hand off to the side of his body.
HA ha yea. and then the side arm skip throw back into the infield
Nasty slider by Coke,to end the inning.
6-3 Tampa
Rays Hammer another HOMER!
Nice job Coke. I’m appreciating how quickly he and Aceves have gotten outs.
How is it a “blind spot” for a guy hitting around the Mendoza Line with RISP?
You really want to compare Derek Jeter and Nick Swisher?
Talk about having a blind spot for a player.
Great job Phil Coke.
My guess is, Bruney is going to get his shot in the 8th.
Can he do the job and how long do you stay with him in the inning if he can’t?
6-3 RAYS put it on the board…..YES
Phil “the pointer” Coke
nice job by coke
“Jeter did the same thing and you didn’t peep. You and SJ both have blind spots with Swisher. He can do no right.”
In a context independent, game neutral environment I’m sure “swish” would have done something positive.
Give me a break Jeter just did not see the ball out of the kids hand. It happens. Yankee hitters started seeing the ball much better as he threw more pitches. That’s pretty common with relievers.
Swisher had a bad at bat. So be it.
Why can’t you just admit that?
He was corkscrewing himself into the ground because he was trying to hit a grandslam when a single would have put the game out of reach and saved the pen a ton of wear.
It just wasn’t a good at bat.
That’s a fact. It was a bad at bat because of the way he tried to jack the ball out of the park.
Lyle Overpay
Phil Coke’s dog:
http://media-2.web.britannica......5328A2.jpg
Somebody feed this pitcher
Coke will get pinch hit for, I wonder who will pitch the 8th-Robertson or Bruney? I’ll be surprised if Mo pitches tonight but the old adage is a win is a win is a win, right?
Bedard MRI. He’s headed down the Mark Prior road of career being over. No waiver pickups this year. That O’S Mariners deal gets worse and worse
Pinch hit CC….
“Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.”
Yea… that’s that last thing the Yankees need, another pitcher like Joba Chamberlain. Didn’t you say that if Joba didn’t get his act together a few months into the season that the Yankees should send the 23 year old to the bullpen for the rest of his career?
Riiight.
those fake umps are really annoying.
Tough decision here for Girardi….obviously want to win the game – hence a good reason to use Hughes/Mo.
But I want those guys fresh for all 4 games for the upcoming SWEEP.
Tough call. Maybe the Yanks can put up a 3 spot here and use Clagget or Melancon.
Iglett is terrible. Yikes
eh swisher swings out of his shoes every time up, every players got those little things that drive ya nuts
Cano is slow. Lazy. And slow.
we have identified the worst outfielder in baseball, he plays for the Jays
ca-yes!
nice job melky!
BUNT
yankees shud sign recently declared free agent yadel marti .. cuban pitcher… pitched almost a 7 innning perfect game vs Venezuela
Eris Hinske sighting
“they are still operating without a longman and it looks like they’ll be worked a bit for the second game in a row tonight.”
Intersting note on Boston’s roster construction.
For a great deal of this year they’ve been going with an 11 man pitching staff with only 6 relievers.
They were able to do that because of the flexibility that Justin Masterson gave them coming out of the pen.
The VMart trade was a good one for them.
But they don’t have anyone to replace Masterson so they are now going to have to go to a conventional 12 man staff with 7 relievers.
why does it take Cano 20 minutes to get out of the batters box… Someone should tell him he is a lefty and they get down the line quicker…
PS I am a huge Cano fan
I have to say- I am kind of loving our bench
Small ball
that was great hitting by Hinkse
very nice Eric..
Get the run in Hinske….lead off walk for Boston… VMart up…
HINSKE WITH YOUR BEST SAC!
Situational hitting! Situational hitting!
“Phil Coke’s dog”
That would be redundant. He should have a retriever.
Great situational hitting.
Good job Hinske!!!
Eric Hinske gets things done.
Nice job guys. Situtational hitting.
Yankees going to make an ALI rotunda to rival CitiFields???
I would actually use Bruney here….I know he’s going to give up at least 1 run but now with a 3 run lead I do not go to Hughes.
RBI Blart!!!!
nice job hinske
CB, it was an 8 pitch at bat with the bases loaded, and the guy buried a slider on a 3-2 count. Sorry, but I have to disagree.
All insurance runs will be accepted.
“I don’t know what the answer is for that fifth starter, but Mitre is no longer an option in my opinion.”
I would not mind Mitre if someone told me that the rest of the rotation would stay healthy the rest of the season, and that Aceves’ shoulder is fine.
But I do think we need another reliable starter in case someone gets hurt. I would love to get Garland or Arroyo…just someone who can be counted on to give innings and give the team a chance to win more often than not.
May be Muhammad Ali can knock out Yockilis tomorrow.
Just to finish the thought on my loving our bench-
Two pinch hitters off the bench tonight each got a RBI. When was the last time that happened???
Great…VMart w/a double…2nd and 3rd…0 outs for Sux…can we trade A Rod for VMart?
uh – not looking good in Tampa Bay
man V Mart just keeps getting hits…
Sox coming back, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How was Joba doing when he was shaking off every catcher on the staff? Horribly.
What has been one of the biggest changes of Joba since the ASB? He isn’t shaking off the catchers as much.
Instead of taking shots at me, trying thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.
Great AB’s by Melky and Hinske and the Yankees add onto the lead.
I hope melancon gets the ball, it’d be nice to get him used to pitching in some semi-meaningful innings
Walk Molina on 4 pitches. Jeter swings at the first.
Sox can have V-Mart. Just glad they didn’t get Doc
everytime I read “V Mart”, I am reminded of “K Mart” and “Wal Mart”…no idea why
let the Sox and Rays go another 13 innings tonight, that works for me.
Victor Martinez is awesome. He concerns me this weekend.
lol – Nice pic, Nick in SF.
I was thinking of that too, but I didn’t want to imply Coke was a dog. (didn’t want to get the Ransom lecture)
That’s what happens when you throw a guy like Bennet out there you just got after the Braves released him.
Congrats to the Red Sox for beating the Rays tonight!
I don’t get why people complain about Swisher so much. He’s having a solid season at the plate and was brought in for Wilson Betemit. In an inning where he hits a game tying home run, he gets crap striking out after working himself back into a count. That was probably a 10 pitch at bat, and he was tricked on the last pitch.
What is it that you expect from him?
Very good base running by Cano.
Hinske and hairston have been very nice pick ups. Both contributed nicely in the game tonight.
Very nice balance on the offense tonight. Swisher laces a home run. They score a couple more runs on a few base hits. Next inning cano gets the double and they get that run Aceves gave up right back.
Nicely done.
Hinske, and Hairston nice under the radar pick-ups by Cash.
Hughes!!!!!!
LONGORIA HOW DO YOU NOT TURN 2 ON THAT?????????????
Joe Torre is tonight’s guest manager apparently
Hughes has moss coming out of the back of his cap
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really Joe doesn’t trust anyone else huh?
Horrible play by Longoria, either get 2 or take the ball home what was he thinking
Nice lets use Hughes 2 days in a row before we play Boston.
Stop fretting about the Red Sox, as long as we take care of our business, they’re going nowhere.
Now no Hughes for 2 days and the sox are gonna win anyway!
Joe wants this game, obviously.
Lowell with the game winner.
6-4
Does anyone else feel like Hughes might be pitching just a little too much lately???
(Betsy- chime in here)
Also shows you how tough its going to be for Tampa to compete long term without money. Their deadline move to upgrade is a guy the Braves released for punching a door after a poor outing against the Yankees.
Going to Hughes? That means he has no confidence in Bruney and Hughes won’t be available until Saturday against the Sox.
Bartlett game saving catch
Really? Hughes…then Mo?
while I understand you play for today and not tomorrow – I’m feeling you make an exception if you have a series against the Red Sox coming up next
Dan Wheeler 5 pitches 3 outs well played Mr. Wheeler.
Personally, I was disappointed Swisher swung on ball 4, especially after working the count to his favor. But I do appreciate the HR he hit to start the inning.
Red Sox had second and third nobody out. Youkilis grounded out on one pitch, and Bay also grounded out on one pitch. Pedroia scored only because Longoria didn’t throw home (he would have been out by a mile) and VMart is still at second.
I thought the Sox always “grinded out” AB’s and did the little things right?
LOL @ the moss comment.
hat’s off to Sergio Meat-tray.
I guess MLB.TV doesn’t want me watching the game
Why use Youuuuse tonight? Girardi sometimes makes me scratch my head
Rishi
August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Really? Hughes…then Mo?
while I understand you play for today and not tomorrow – I’m feeling you make an exception if you have a series against the Red Sox coming up next
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Obviously Girardi knows the Yankees will win a laugher tomorrow
Hate this move using Hughes. Use Bruney and bring in Hughes if there is trouble.
Someone oughta get in Girardi’s ear after this game. Very likely we will not have Ace, Hughes OR Mo tomorrow!
I agree with SJ on the Joba issue….The best thing that has happen to Chamberlain since the break is he’s not out there on the hill thinking….He gets the ball, gets the sign and throws……These were the things he wasn’t doing before, and it was costing him and the club…..Much better tempo, not only for him but for the players on the field behind him…..
MELKY!!!!!!
Why is Girardi using Hughes here? He has a 3 run lead, this is pretty dumb after he threw 25 pitches last night and we have 4 in a row coming up against Boston.
He trusts nobody enough to use them with a THREE run lead? Seriously?
This is one of those moves that reeks of desperation. Girardi needs to show some faith in the rest of his pen in these spots so he doesn’t have to burn out Hughes and Mo.
Vernon robbed
Melky playing some serious D lately
Wow, it sure would be nice if MLB.tv would stop showing me the blue “commercial break” screen so I could watch the game.
If Bruney can’t get 3 outs with a 3 run lead what use is he?
Now Hughes is lost for at least tomorrow and probably Friday.
Giarardi boggles my mind.
Use Robertson for 3 outs.
Use Melancon.
Use Bruney.
Girardi is no better than Torre.
this is only the 3rd time Hughes has pitched two days in a row.
Hey he didn’t pitch Melancon against the anemic A’s lineup he certainly won’t be pitching him against the RS.
Expect fatigue as the rest of the season goes on from Hughes Aceves Coke… hey it has already set in with Aceves and Coke.
Girardi has his safety blanket in the bull pen. It’s the formula.
This is bull pen management right out of the Torre school. No different at all.
4 guys you “trust” and that’s it.
Thanks Angel-
I never got to find out what you thought of the book!!
guys..this game is just important as tomorrows game…you play for today..not tomorrow…yanks might score 13 off smoltz tomorrow..or joba might be lit up…u just dont knw…but you do knw you are in a close game tonight
Melky is really coming along as a player. He hardly ever has those AB’s that make you shake your head, and he seems to be getting better jumps in CF.
Nick Green Playing left field ha
Joe really wants these games with Toronto doesn’t he?
Don’t blame him, but will Hughes and Mo be too tired for Boston?
Phil Coke is NOT a dog. He’s just trying to improve his K-9 rate.
Total bone-head move by Girardi. Even if we win, I am pretty irate.
hate to nitpick but this was a perfect spot to see what Melancon can do in a semi-pressure spot and get Hughes the night off before the Sox series tomorrow…if Melancon and Bruney are not used unless we’re losing or way behind how will we know what they can really do?? Maybe Bruney or Melancon for the 9th but I would not be surprised if Girardi sends out Mo…..love the small ball way we got that run last inning, Hinske is awesome, a role player you win championships with..love our bench with Hairston and Hinske!!!
Kind of foolish to predict fatigue on pitchers.
Much like some who complain daily about the lineups, you are rarely correct.
He is trying to win as many games as possible.
His thinking probably is, win the game tonight and worry about the next two days when those days come up.
I wouldn’t have gone to Hughes myself but, I understand his lack of faith in Bruney.
I know it’s politically correct to blame Torre for mismanaging the bullpen but he did win 4 World Series in 5 years with the same style, right?
“Don’t blame him, but will Hughes and Mo be too tired for Boston?”
Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!
A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.
yeah you play for today but tomorrow’s game is still going to happen, too. Overusing the same YOUNG relievers when its not necessary is not thinking of the big picture.
I agree that Bruney or Melancon should have pitched this inning. A 3-run lead should be easy enough for them to handle.
The problem with bringing Hughes in is that he throws a lot of pitches and then you end up having to go to some with with inherited runners on base.
Ralphie – while the game is “close”, it’s not that close, You could get away with bringing Bruney in and let him face at least 2 guys. If he puts both on you bring in someone else. But give him a chance. We have wiggle room and we have another inning to put up a run.
Bad job by Girardi. It’s these little panic moves (or “by the book” moves) that scare me most about this season. He is going to kill this bullpen by October.
Phil – Definitely not an OPPC member
August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.
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I am agreeing with the non-OPPC dude
yea Phil
Watch Hughes put another guy on and Girardi bring in Rivera for 4 outs again.
while it stinks to have to use Hughes and Rivera…
I’ll take a win with Sergio Mitre starting ANY day of the week.
If that’s what it takes, so be it.
If the Yanks win the games Andy and Sergio (or their #5) are starting, forget about it…
Wow, what was Encarncion looking at??? Nice pitch anyway
Iced em
That was a good pitch, just because Encarnacion wasn’t expecting it at all.
Its a 3 run lead. Not one run.
Use the other guys. Girardi has the brain of a goldfish.
Bruney can’t get 3 outs? Melancon can’t? Robertson can’t?
Bring in someone else if they get in trouble. Its just SO STUPID. Hughes up to 20 pitches already this inning.
He’s just a moron. Plain and simple.
Erica – I’ve long since forgotten what OPPC stood for.
I hope Joba chamberlain can give us 8.
Seems like Hughes throws avg of 20-25 pitches per inning
Hughes is gonna end up throwing around 60-70 pitches in a 24 hrs span so I really thought Girardi would patch up a couple innings with Melancon,Bruney. This isn’t the way you want to lead going against the Sox tomorrow. Hopefully Joba can go 7.
CB
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Girardi has his safety blanket in the bull pen. It’s the formula.
This is bull pen management right out of the Torre school. No different at all.
4 guys you “trust” and that’s it.
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Do you believe that’s good, or bad?
“A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.”
Agreed. But how much of a lead is enough to try to pitch someone else besides the same 4 guys?
Down a run – Aceves.
Up 3 runs in the 7th – coke.
Up 3 runs in the 8th – hughes.
Any team up by 3 runs in the 8th has around an 85% chance of winning the game, IIRC.
Just try.
Because you can’t have effectively a 4 man pen for the rest of the year.
If Joe uses Melancon or Bruney here, and they implode, it puts him in a situation of having to use for a multi-inning save for the second night in a row.
I o.k. with this move. No one else but Phil has earned the confidence level to pitch this inning.
Well, he’s not a moron but, I would have stayed away from Hughes here.
I would have given Melancon the start of the inning and go batter to batter.
I believe Mitre will get at least one more start.
Girardi used Hughes because he wants to win the game and Hughes is the only pitcher he trusts to hold it here. He wants to go back to the Bronx as far ahead of the Sux as he can. This isn’t a night he was going to experiment for the sake of forumites who can’t understand why someone who is called up isn’t put into the game IMMEDIATELY. Once again IMO he played this right. (Oh yeah if he did experiment and got into trouble it would have burned even more pitchers, something he might now want to do before the upcoming series.)
Maybe Joe is saving Melancon for the 9th after the Yanks score a couple more runs?
Maybe?
I want the ‘Hughes Rules’. Joba has his own T-shirt like that.
Maybe we see Bruney tomorrow.
again, this is only the 3rd time Hughes has pitched back to back games. He most likely won’t pitch tomorrow. It’s entirely possible Girardi figures they will score a ton of runs tomorrow night against Smoltz and Joba will continue to pitch lights out.
*having to use Mo
Girardi really shouldn’t have used Hughes,or Coke if you ask me. Save them for the series against Boston. Right now, we may have to rely heavily on Joba & AJ for the next two games.
But, had Swisher not striked out on ball-four,then this could be a different climate.
Hughes threw 26 pitches last night and has shown signs of fatigue in recent appearances, in which he has been missing his spots by a lot.
Again, what is the point? You are up THREE runs, you have a ton of guys out there who could get a few outs up 3 runs (Melancon, Bruney, Robertson), heck even Coke could have gone back out there since he only threw 7 pitches last inning and has had 3 days off in a row.
Using Hughes now is DESPERATE. This is Girardi’s problem, he manages desperately sometimes and it rubs off on his team at times in the Boston games.
Now he will have back to back days of 20+ pitches. You couldn’t use ANYONE else and have him sitting there to use JUST IN CASE? Hughes now will certainly get 1 or 2 days off now. Who are you going to go to now if it’s a 1 run game against Boston? You never gave anyone a chance to pitch in a less pressurized version of the same spot, so how will you know who can pitch in a save/hold situation?
Is he going to go to Melancon or Bruney with a 1 run lead against Boston when he wouldn’t go to them with a 3 run lead against Toronto? This is the hypocrisy that bothers me with his managing style, and they are overusing Hughes by pitching him in spots that he is not needed.
So now you’ll have to go to Hughes, Robertson, etc tomorrow night if there’s a close game, with no safety blanket in Hughes and all the other options not being trusted or not having pitched in 4-5 days. This is where you have to learn how to mix in guys in the right spots.
“How was Joba doing when he was shaking off every catcher on the staff? Horribly.
What has been one of the biggest changes of Joba since the ASB? He isn’t shaking off the catchers as much.
Instead of taking shots at me, trying thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.”
That’s not taking a shot at you, that’s you being too sensitive.
The reason Joba is pitching better is because he’s been more accurate with his fastball. Not shaking off your catcher is important for a young pitcher. That doesn’t mean it’s the reason Joba wasn’t dominating before or why he is dominating now. Try “thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.”
something he might NOT want to do
Let’s get some prespective, Papelbon has averaged 20 pitches an inning over his last five. Any strikeout pitcher is going to throw a lot of pitches. It’s that simple.
Miggs – wow, if Girardi is a moron with his team in first place with that record…you are clueless. You may disagree with a move here or there…but to call a Northwestern grad a moron. To call a classy, intelligent guy a moron…I guess we just have to consider the source and disregard.
Molina got crossed up. Called for a curveball and got a fastball.
Nice cutter
I have never been this mad at Girardi ever. Seriously, this is like a bad movie. DO NOT USE OUR BEST PITCHERS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT!
*Bruney, Robertson
Not Hughes again
Brightside, if it comes down to a close game against Boston maybe Melancon gets a chance to cut his teeth in a big-time spot
Hughes at 25 pitches for the 2nd straight night.
Girardi should have his head examined.
Yuuussssssssee!
Nice job. Now please put up another run so we don’t have to see Mo.
nice job phil now get some rest. get ready for tomorrow.
“Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!”
what does that even mean? a throwaway game?…it doesnt matter there record against them..you want to win today
meanwhile, Hughes got the job done again. That was a nasty cutter for the K.
You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
Youuuuuuuuse
Love the Molina fist pump!
Hey Phil I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think.
You don’t like my posts too bad.
CB – I don’t always agree with the standard book managers use to protect 3 run leads…but I can see why they go there – the safe route that is most likely to guarantee a victory.
You should have Cody Ransom pitch the 9th I’m sure he’d do anything you ask him right about now.
we have to win tonight first.
worry about tomorrow later.
if we win & boston loses it is just like beating boston.
a 2.5 game lead going into a 4 game series with boston means they have to sweep us to take first place.
huge game here.
We could lead 7-1 going into the 8th and you might not need him.
Yanks in line to win their 3rd straight after losing 3 straight (and making tons of errors, poor baserunning, etc)
It also looks like they’ll have a 2.5 game lead over the Sox.
If you can’t be happy about that, my condolences.
I would definitely buy a “Yuuussssssssee!” shirt.
Hell, I think I’m going to have one made.
Pepi,
Can’t have a 4 man pen. This team is going to have to win more games.
If you only use 4 guys in close situations/ with a lead they are going to burn out.
Especially when 3 of the 4 are coming out of the pen for the first time in their entire careers.
Aceves already has shown concerning issues about how he’s holding up coming out of the pen. He’s never done it before.
Up 3 runs in the 8th is a large lead. The overwhelming probability is that they are going to win this game.
Take some small risk and try using someone else.
This current approach is not sustainable.
Will we see Okimama tomorrow?
The Sox don’t scare me. If you think Bruney, Robertson and Melancon were good enough to come in the 8th inning tonight, then they are good enough to come in the 8th tommorow.
If ESPN shows Ortiz sitting in the dugout, chomping on gum for no adequately explained reason again, I’m going to scream. He’s not on the field. He’s a DH. There is no need to cut over to a shot of him every 15 seconds when there is a game going on.
You gotta wonder how long it’ll take the fans to stop booing him tomorrow and this weekend.
“Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!”
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just like tonight was a throw away game because Mitre was starting.
let’s throw some more games away!!!
“Hughes at 25 pitches for the 2nd straight night.
Girardi should have his head examined.”
You have a 1.5 lead on BOS, tomorrow Smoltz or Joba could pitch like crap or gems and erase the BP altogether. You worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. I’d go either Bruney or Melancon in the 9th, save Mo if I can.
who is to say the yanks will even have a lead tomorrow? Gotta lock down these wins.
Damon!
Also why as a reliever do we really look at pitch counts??? If he was being strecthed out as a starter. Granted don’t overuse him in back to back games, but if it takes him 25 pitches to strikeout two guys and give up no runs instead of 18 to accomplish the same thing who cares????? Hughes is in the pen the rest of the year. It’s using him too much which will cause a problem.
GO RAYS!!!
3 more outs. I trust Howell to get the job done.
It really does look like moss.
The book – You know, I wasn’t sure I was going to like it when I first started it. She is pretty much the kind of Yankee fan that is the opposite of me, and one that I’ve never really *got* you know.. high expectations, demanding, tough – she almost came across as a *spoiled entitled* fan at the beginning. Especially the article she had published about divorcing them, although I could see where she was sorta coming from and that it was tongue-in-cheek.
But by the end of the book when she started rethinking her type of fandom, mode of expressing herself and understanding more where others came from in how they expressed their fandom and that its okay to not treat every game as if its life and death and the be all and end all, I started appreciating her passion and dedication as a fan, and seeing it more as that than just what I saw originally which was kinda offputting.
It was also interesting reading her interviews with the beat writers.
Miggs – Live in your bubble…whatever makes you happy.
DEMON!
yahhhooo
thanks, Johnny, no need for Mo…
MPB Johnny Damon = REALLY AWESOME!!!!
Now can we save Mo!
Damon!
wow johnnie d
I will reiterate. Damon is having a FABULOUS series
Damon closed his eyes and pretended that was Halladay
yay..no mo…now bring in bruney!!!…uh oh lol
Thank god for Damon’s HR so they don’t have to use Mo, but now Hughes will be unavailable for possibly 2 games of the Boston series. Not the smartest time to use him, especially since he could have come in and thrown a much lower number of pitches to get an out or two if someone was falling apart out there in his place rather than ANOTHER outing of 25 pitches back to back.
DAMON!!!!!
And why does Joba have better fastball command?
He’s not shaking the catchers and working at a faster pace because of it.
Trusting his catchers has turned around his season.
That allows his mechanics to be tighter and that has brought back his fastball command and velocity.
Funny thing is, that’s the best Phil has looked in a week. his secondary pitches were nasty and his fastball had better command.
You people are crazy. You win the games you can.
What if you save Coke, Hughes & Mo tonight and blow the game? Well great at least they’ll be rested for tomorrow night’s game, right? What if tomorrow night’s game is 10-1? Or it rains?
Now with a 4 run lead you don’t use Mo – I give you that.
It does make little sense to have brought Hughes in in the 8th inning.
If it was a 1 run lead, or maybe even a 2 run lead, then absolutely the Yankees should bring him in to lock the game down.
But a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, and he doesn’t trust anyone except Hughes? That’s a problem. The Yankees cannot expect to win a WS if they have 5 out of 7 relievers only pitching when the Yankees are up by 5 runs or losing.
Then there is our lovable A Rod
I miss anti-Matt.
Bruney to start..and then Melancon when Bruney allows lead runner to reach
Tricia at some point and verry soon I might add, Joe Giradi is going to have to find at least one more arm to go to….I’ll take it one step further, he should have 2 more arms that he feels good about…And their names are not Hughes, Coke , Aceves, Rivera….Just remember the 04 ALCS , the pen was dead tired and it cost the Yanks the series…..
Prediction:
Johnny D takes Smoltzy deep tomorrow.
Angel-
I agree! But I understand the whole divorcing thing. I totally broke up with the Yankees for a few days the end of last August when the reality of the season set in. Sometimes you just need a break.
I loved that our own Pete Abe helped her out!
Every win is important.
Girardi is right in using Hughes.
How do you know tomorrow will not be a laugher or a blow out?
If the others in the bullpen are that good to protect a three run lead with two innings to go, sure they can be used in Boston game as well.
As the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
It is time to stop whining and enjoying the game that we are going to win. Soz are losing as well.
If things hold up as they are right now, we will go into Boston series with 2.5 games lead and even if we split the series, we will be still in first place.
A Rod LOL
Hopefully, Bruney can do the job in the 9th and they won’t need Mo.
“You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.”
Yep.
Thanks again for sending that Erica, that was really such a nice thing for you to do.
“Funny thing is, that’s the best Phil has looked in a week. his secondary pitches were nasty and his fastball had better command.”
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a couple of those curveballs were unhittable.
looked good to me as well.
Use Melancon in the 9th, if he falters for some reason Bruney is still out there. Hughes will be able to pitch again by Thursday and saves Bruney for tomorrow. I love Mark, but he hasn’t gotten enough consistent work to trust in a key spot against the Sox.
SJ his cutter was nasty.
Damon wants badly to come back next season…might be a tough call.
It wouldn’t be if they asked me, bring him back (unless he’s looking for big money).
“I would have given Melancon the start of the inning and go batter to batter.”
That’s the thing. Why is going batter to batter so impossible with a three run lead.
It’s not a one run lead where if a guy gets on base he represents the tying run. Nor is it a situation where the guy at the plate represents the go ahead run.
Just try batter to batter. A three run lead is a good time to try it.
Damon is RAKING.
Hughes has thrown 2.2 innings over the last 6 days. Oh no!!!! Overwork!!!!
I predict that A Rod will get 3 hits in the Sux series….that is TOTAL for 4 games…
Think Girardi can bring himself to use Melancon or Bruney for the 9th?
Or is 4 runs not a big enough cushion?
Oh wait, its not a save situation (thank god). Gotta play it by the book. Guess we’ll see Bruney.
If it was 3 runs any chance any other pitcher besides Mo pitches the 9th? No way.
My hope for tomorrow:
Joba 7 strong innings 3 H 0 ER 9 K’s
Yanks win 10-0.
NYY626
August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I will reiterate. Damon is having a FABULOUS series
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There were never any doubts! I predicted huge post-ASB awesomeness from MPB Johnny Damon!
Damn we might not Melancon for another 6-7 days. I would have used him here.
“You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.”
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Totally true….some people just don’t understand that…The NY Yankees are a win now team…the future is just that… the future
OK, how many relievers pitched in tight situations when the Yankees won 4 World Series?
-Mo
-Stanton
-Nelson
-Mendoza
In ’96, of course, Mo was Nelson and Wetteland was Mo.
And Graeme Lloyd had some good outings in middle relief but never at the end of the game.
So why is this bullpen any different?
Man RDM you are obsessed with Arod. How sad and stupid.
You know if its a close game Friday night in the 8th inning Girardi will go to Hughes.
Angel – A tale told by idiots – full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Thanks again for sending that Erica, that was really such a nice thing for you to do.
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No problem! Glad I could help out
Now who pitches???
Come on Melancon.
Yes, tonight’s game is important but you could say that about every game. okay so use Mo and Phil every night, even when we are trailing because they are the most likely to hold it? I say you use a “lesser” reliever when you can, 3 run lead, Phil pitched last night and Boston’s on the horizon, use Melancon he has pitched well as of late anyway.
RDM, that’s pretty ballsy putting your e-mail address in the tag line (if it’s legit).
What kind of e-mails do you get?
Damn we might not Melancon for another 6-7 days. I would have used him here
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We are playing the Sox for 4 straight days..trust me you will see him
Several weeks back, when the Yankees hit a bad patch, certain posters were looking into the future and trying to bring in players for next year. Some were getting rid of both Sui and Damon. At the time I said I would bring them both back. I also pointed out that players can make themselves very valuable toward the end of a season and almost unexpendable.
I haven’t changed my mind about bringing either of them back.
Bruney is officially buried with Robertson getting the call…
ROBERTSON???
Fab Melo
August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Damon wants badly to come back next season…might be a tough call.
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You are partially right. It’s really me who badly wants him to come back next season
Damn why not use Mark???? 4 run lead and he isn’t getting any work in????? Use him!!!
“It does make little sense to have brought Hughes in in the 8th inning.
If it was a 1 run lead, or maybe even a 2 run lead, then absolutely the Yankees should bring him in to lock the game down.
But a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, and he doesn’t trust anyone except Hughes? That’s a problem. The Yankees cannot expect to win a WS if they have 5 out of 7 relievers only pitching when the Yankees are up by 5 runs or losing.”
Look.
Its a logical post.
RDM also predicted losses to Buerhle and Halladay.
He’s from the Jim Cramer School of Predictions.
Robertson has some big calves!
O man i feel bad for Brian…He needs to get his swagger back and quick
A rod has a huge series vs. Boston
(you heard it here first)
“at some point and verry soon I might add, Joe Giradi is going to have to find at least one more arm to go to….I’ll take it one step further, he should have 2 more arms that he feels good about…And their names are not Hughes, Coke , Aceves, Rivera….Just remember the 04 ALCS , the pen was dead tired and it cost the Yanks the series…..”
Very good point.
Those arms will be Bruney, Melancon and Marte.
Burney is close to be effective.
Melancon showed promise in the last three outings and will win the trust of Girardi.
Marte, when healthy is very effective against the LH batters.
Switching back and forth between Sox and this game.
“if you save Coke, Hughes & Mo tonight and blow the game?”
I think people are just frustrated that Hughes is the only go-to guy in the 8th inning now. If only half the bullpen is trusted to protect a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, it’s going to be hard to win a championship without guys getting overworked.
Mo will be in the game, hwever much Girrardi wants to avoid it.
Melancon or Bruney could have pitched the 8th – as I said – we had a chance to score another run anyway. Hughes could have been brought in to get out of e jam.
A 3 run lead in the 8th inning is a nice lead. And in all likelihood the Yanks are not blowing anybody out tomorrow. They rarely do. Hence the overuse of Rivera, Hughes, Coke and Aceves.
Robertson is working his way up the bullpen food chain.
Using Hughes was fine. Bruney is 8th inning guy tomorrow if we get to that point. This was a big game to win with Boston losing as we will have a 2 1/2 game lead and we win the series and go home feeling good.
Long season and Hughes will be back in Friday.
that was a great curveball thrown by Robertson
Yeah, I could see where she was coming from with that divorcing the Yankees too. I think some of the reactions she got to that were a little harsh and a bit self-righteous, actually. It seemed tongue in cheek to me. Her battles with the Yankee FO were kinda funny too.
It was funny when she documented her first meeting with Peter. I could totally see that happening.
No way the Yankees should not at least offer Damon a nice one year contract with an option or something. He is a unique player, clutch, not easy to replace as the Sox have found out. Ellsbury was and never will be close to what Damon is. The only comparable player to me is Carl Crawford who has more speed, but less power. Would love Crawford to replace Damon in LF in two years.
“Jim Cramer School of Predictions”
LOL!!!
i would bring melancon in also with a 3 run lead.
one person gets on yank him.
we might be pleasantly suprised
Trisha,
The chances of Matsui being back is like Abreu last year. Nil.
The DH spot will be a revolving door with a number of players next year.
Damon? If he wants a 1 year deal for less money, its a possibility. Anything more? Highly doubtful they will commit multi-year money to Damon again. Too much age on that body even though the guy plays his butt off every night.
Scutaro (insert rage face)
Ok then, go D-Rob.
We have to forgive him that Scutaro hit, only Mitre can get him out.
Scutaro = Pain in the *beep*
scutaro is a nightmare
Girardi you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Now who pitches???
Come on Melancon.”
i think to loosen things up for the red sox series giradi should let the bullpen play rock , scissors ,paper to see who pitches the ninth.
Scutaro is reminding me of David Eckstein from the Angels, or Johnny Damon when he was with Boston
Angel – A tale told by idiots – full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Yeah, I could see where she was coming from with that divorcing the Yankees too. I think some of the reactions she got to that were a little harsh and a bit self-righteous, actually. It seemed tongue in cheek to me. Her battles with the Yankee FO were kinda funny too.
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I am still mad at Jason Zillo for not helping her out. But he redeemed himself a lot with me for HOPE week.
D-Rob location, location
NO NO NO NO NO . How would you even think of MO with Melancon and Bruney out there. Please now. Mo didn’t look great last night either so give him a day
I hope you get your wish, Erica. Damon is so down-to-earth and humble, it would be a damn shame if they cut bait too soon.
He’s probably looking for his last contract, which would make things dicey. One year at a time would be the way to go, imho. I don’t know if he would be down w/that.
Robertson is getting better for sure. If he doesn’t then Marte will take his place and Ace will be our lone long man.
Mo throwing.
I’m shocked he wasn’t warming up before the inning started.
One more baserunner and Mo’s in.
Girardi is as predictable as a rooster.
Some good things happen on my fantasy team.
One is that I have Howell.
One strike away…
Sox down to their last strike….
tying run at the plate (Ellsbury)
Man that was a ball but im glad he out
one more!! Nice K!
“And why does Joba have better fastball command?
He’s not shaking the catchers and working at a faster pace because of it.
Trusting his catchers has turned around his season.
That allows his mechanics to be tighter and that has brought back his fastball command and velocity.”
I said before that I agree w/ young pitchers not shaking off catchers. At the same time, I don’t think you can’t say that it definitely equates to better command and mechanics. That is stretching it a bit.
That was a generous strike three.
Cashman won’t make a decision on Damon until the end of the year. A lot of time between now and then. His defense in LF is bad. He tracks balls poorly and we know his arm is substandard. I’m not sure how he fits into the mold of getting younger and more athletic…he is on the downhill portion of his career.
The Sox series will showcase A Rod and how bad he is in pressure situations, in pressure games, as in the last few years in the playoffs. Just watch how he does in the next 4 days.
J.P. Howell is pretty damn good.
Tampa wins
Sawks lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sox lose
Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.
wooooooooow..D-Rob location man..location.
one more d-rob!! lets extend that divisional lead!
Yes Tampa wins !
GAME!
Finish this and it is 2.5
Sox lose…now can the Yanks beat them one game this season, or are the Sox in their heads?
Time to get my schadenfreude on over at SoSH.
When do we get a few trolls on here after the Sox just got sent packing????
“i think to loosen things up for the red sox series giradi should let the bullpen play rock , scissors ,paper to see who pitches the ninth.”
Coke will be easy to beat – he always does scissors. It’s just one extra finger to point with.
Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.
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give him time he will be decent not great…
C’mon Robertson, FINISH HIM!(street fighter reference)
RDM, what’s with the hardon you have for ARod?
Alot of whining on here about Girardi. I think hes doing a good job.
Ped Sox lose and now we are up 2 1/2
“Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.”
If only he could locate he’d be Tkashi Saito
He’s 23 or 24 I think it’s right now b/c he’s wet behind the ears.
RDM,
It’s pathetic how obsessed you are with A-Rod. You need help.
Throw the hook D-Rob!
“Just try batter to batter. A three run lead is a good time to try it.”
How many times we had three run leads and lost the game.
That game where AJ had six run lead and we lost the same against SOX.
When you are winning close it out.
It is not like Hughes pitched two three days in a row.
nothing is more important than picking up a game on the rs even if it means using the entire pen
Damon = dh/4th or 5th OF
Excellent stretch of 2 games going into Boston series with Sox losing 2 and Yanks winning 2. The Yanks need to win 3/4 and build a cushion here.
5 major concerns down the stretch:
1. Girardi
2. Over-use of the bullpen
3. #5 starter (and consistency from the other 4)
4. BRUTAL September schedule (with Rays, Angels and Red Sox all on there) + 7 games with Boston in August.
CB-
I agree with you that having a 4 man bullpen does not seem like a very wise proposition, but what if Girardi brings in Melancon, or Bruney, and they give up a couple of singles, or worse, you will have to go to Hughes anyway.
He’s playing the guys he has confidence in, can’t blame him for that. Torre got 4 WS Championships with that formula.
I never played baseball, so I don’t know how pitchers feel after throwing x number of pitches in a game, but it would seem to me Girardi should know how far to push these guys.
I too wish he would especially use Melancon more, I really like that kid, but the wins are very important in this particular stretch. Yankees could be in first place by 6 games starting next week. That could be