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Game 107: Yankees at Blue Jays

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YANKEES (64-42)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C

Pitching: RHP Sergio Mitre (1-0, 7.80).

BLUE JAYS (51-55)
Scutaro SS
Hill 2B
Lind DH
Overbay 1B
Wells CF
Rios RF
Encarnacion 3B
Barajas C
Inglett LF

Pitching: LHP Mark Rzepczynski (1-2, 3.25).

TIME/TV: 7:07 p.m., YES.

STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees are 4-4 on a road trip that ends tonight. They started the trip with a 2.5 game lead on Boston and they’re 1.5 games up going into tonight’s action. The Yankees have won two straight after losing three in a row.

BEATING THE BLUE JAYS: The Yankees are 6-2 against Toronto this season and have won 25 of the last 41,

OH (NO) SERGIO: Mitre has allowed nine runs on 16 hits in his last two innings. Opponents have hit .393 against him in his three starts this season.

MANAGING MO: Mariano Rivera has worked 1+ innings nine times this season including three of his last four appearances. Rivera worked more than one inning 14 times last season. In 2007, when Joe Torre was manager, Rivera worked more than one inning 13 times.

MO’S STREAK: Rivera has gone 19.1 innings without allowing a run.

PHILTHY PHIL: Phil Hughes has 37 strikeouts in 29.1 innings of relief.

WHERE HAVE YOU GONE, ALFREDO ACEVES? A BULLPEN TURNS ITS LONELY EYES TO YOU: Alfredo Aceves has pitched twice in the last 13 games. The official party line that his shoulder feels fine might be a fib. Hard to believe, I know.

WOO WOO WOO: Had to say it.

TEX MESSAGE: Mark Teixeira is 11 of 34 on the road trip with six RBI.

NO CLOWNING AROUND: A-Rod is 13 of 34 on the trip with five RBI. He has gone 57 at-bats without a home run, however. The Killebrew Kurse is a strong one.

BREAK DANCE: The Yankees are 13-5 since the All-Star break. Only the Angels (14-4) have been better in the AL.

ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Lonely Teardrops by the great Jackie Wilson.

Back later with more.

UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.

UPDATE, 5:41 p.m.: Girardi said they wanted the extra pitcher for tonight to protect the bullpen. They’ll add a position player soon enough. “Could be one day,” the manager said.

UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.

Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.

UPDATE, 6:51 p.m.: The Yankees have signed Russ Ortiz to a minor-league deal and sent him to Scranton. He was 3-6, 5.57 for Houston.

UPDATE, 7:07 p.m.: We are underway in Toronto. 75 degrees and the roof is open at the Rogers Centre. Enjoy the game.

UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: It’s Sergio Mitre’s world and we’re all just living in it.

UPDATE, 7:22 p.m.: Spoke too soon. The parade of hit has started. First and third, two outs for Wells.

UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: Another single and it’s 1-0 Jays. 14.1 innings, 27 hits for Mitre.

UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: 28 hits and it’s 2-0. Here comes Dave Eiland. The Yankees probably can’t keep running this guy out there. These next few innings probably will decide his immediate future.

UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: Remember all the (justified) carping about Bobby Meacham last season? Rob Thomson is a heck of a third base coach, isn’t he? He always seems to make the right call.

Yankees tie it up 2-2. Nine more and that should be enough for Mitre.

UPDATE, 8:02 p.m.: A-Rod has gone 59 at-bats without a home run, his longest streak as a Yankee.

UPDATE, 8:11 p.m.: Jose Molina loves throwing the ball behind the runner at first. Paid off that time. 2-2 into the fourth.

UPDATE, 8:18 p.m.: Melky 0 for 6 since the cycle. … Meanwhile Rirserzynksityh or however you spell his name is going to hang one of those curveballs eventually and somebody will clobber it.

UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Sergio Mitre leaves with the Yankees down 3-2. Better than expected, probably.

His line in four starts: 18 innings, 32 hits, 15 earned runs, 6 walks, 9 strikeouts. You can’t last long with a 2.11 WHIP in this league. Or any league.

UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: Via the Yanks: The team will pay tribute to Muhammad Ali prior to the game tomorrow night.

Swish just tied it up with a bomb to left. I called it on Twitter an hour ago.

UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: Impressive rally there as the Yankees send 10 men to the plate and score four runs on five hits. Nine outs to get and they’d prefer not to use Mariano. Big spot for Aceves, who should be able to give them another inning or two.

UPDATE, 9:34 p.m.: So much for that. Ace gives up a bomb, gets an out and that’s it.

For those of you scoring at home (and congrats on that), A-Rod is now the 3B, the Yankees have given up their DH and the pitcher is in the No. 8 slot in the batting order.

UPDATE, 10:09 p.m.: That home run by Damon could save Mo. Dave Robertson out to finish it off.

Back later with reaction. Finishing the road trip with three straight wins would be huge. The Yankees left New York with a 2.5 game lead and they could return with the same if Tampa finishes off Boston. Hard to ask for more than that.

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1,696 Responses to “Game 107: Yankees at Blue Jays”

  1. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Here’s who is in so far for “Guess the Line Up”
    This is the FINAL CALL. No Submissions after 3:40

    WTTCTOHA
    Andrew
    L to the 2nd, Upstate Kate
    Patrick (the Prospect Hugger), Rebecca, Henner (same)
    NYY626
    Roger Maris
    Largo, Joey Vegas
    Dan the Man
    Bru
    Fran
    RayVT
    Ben
    RalphieD
    Jon Locke, DurhamYankee, YankeeRay, CM (same)
    Jude

  2. Yanks Fan August 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Jeter – SS
    Damon – LF
    Tex – 1B
    ARod – DH
    Cano – 2B
    Swisher – RF
    Melky – CF
    Hairston – 3B
    Molina – C

  3. CountryClub August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Erica, buying baseball tickets on StubHub is simple. You usually get a great deal too…especially if you buy them the day of the game. I say usually because I’m not sure that will be the case with Boston. But if you want to go see the Twins on a Wednesday night you’ll get tickets for 40 cents on the dollar. They’re usually at their cheapest around 1pm. But sometimes you’ll find real cheap seats early in the morning. if you do, jump on them before someone else does.

  4. Tint August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Mitre gives 7 strong tonight baby!!!!!!!!

  5. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera CF
    Hinske RF

  6. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    REPOST **

    Bam Bam Duncan

    last 10 games .161

    post ASB .197/.310/.410
    RISP .248 AVG

    how does he help us?

  7. saucY August 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    are we still playing that line-up game?

    SS Jeter
    LF Damon
    1B Tex
    3B Alex
    DH Matsui
    4B Posada
    2B Cano
    RF Hairston
    CF Cabrera

  8. BLACKACCORD August 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Jeter – SS
    Damon – LF
    Tex – 1B
    ARod – DH
    Posada – C
    Cano – 2B
    Swisher – RF
    Melky – CF
    Hairston – 3B

  9. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Tom in NJ- You are the only person giving Hinske a start tonight. You are either a genius or very wrong

    Yanksfan- got it

  10. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    ARod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Cabrera CF

  11. Richie August 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    As I said on the other thread, Aceves might be a concern.

  12. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    So who’s down for Claggett?

  13. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    “jake [bring back shelley]
    August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    no, Brandon I’m awesome etc. etc…

    Shelley Duncan gives a TON of pop off the bench compared to a ramiro pena or cody ransom. We have hariston who can play 2nd,3rd,short, or OF. Hinkse, Duncan, Swisher can play first, Hinske and Duncan can play any OF spots except Center where Damon or Hariston can play if we needed them to in a pinch.

    Duncan gives the team a lot to play with still, but has a LOT better Bat.”

    Bam Bam Duncan

    last 10 games .161

    post ASB .197/.310/.410
    RISP .248 AVG

    how does he help us?

  14. Steve B August 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    “Bam Bam Duncan

    last 10 games .161″

    Almost as bad as Pena’s last 10 games.

  15. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Most likely very wrong Erica.

    But, beter to be spectacularly wrong then almost right.

    Besides, many people post the same lineup…

  16. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    “Almost as bad as Pena’s last 10 games.”

    except he can defend and run…what does Bam Bam do?

  17. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Tom-

    Actually very few repeats today. But people have Hairston playing every position but sideways

  18. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Saucy, Blackaccord, and Miggs. You are in. Just in time

  19. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Erica am I in?

  20. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Jeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 0, Swisher 9, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hairston 5, Molina 2, Mitre 1.

  21. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    RT @Ledger_YankeesJeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 0, Swisher 9, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hairston 5, Molina 2, Mitre 1. Ransom may be outta here. –Carig

    I got A-Rod as DH right!!

  22. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Confetti falls, Claggett rises
    August 5, 2009
    They are opening the roof here at the Rogers Centre – it is a gorgeous, sunny day in Toronto with a nice hint of a cool breeze. Anyway, as the roof opened, some pieces of colored, glittery paper doubtless left over from a previous, probably non-baseball event here fluttered down through the air. There are some kids shagging in the outfield for a civilian who is taking batting practice and the kids started leaping for the paper as it cascaded down. Nice scene.

    Side note, which I’m sure we’ll find out more about when the clubhouse opens in a few minutes – Anthony Claggett is standing on the field with Phil Coke, chatting amiably. Apparently, the Yanks have called him up. Will fill you in with more details as they emerge.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0NL6gOeHQ

  23. Trumpetman August 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    miggs

    Why the hostility? It’s just a blog, and I admitted that my remarks were harsh. Calm Down ! Do you like Ransom that much?

    Repost

  24. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    This is the final list of entries for “Guess the Line Up”.
    No new entries. The submission window is closed.

    We should have a winner soon

    WTTCTOHA
    Andrew, Blackaccord (same)
    L to the 2nd, Upstate Kate, Miggs (same)
    Patrick (the Prospect Hugger), Rebecca, Henner (same)
    NYY626
    Roger Maris
    Largo, Joey Vegas
    Dan the Man
    Bru
    Fran
    RayVT
    Ben
    RalphieD
    Jon Locke, DurhamYankee, YankeeRay, CM
    Jude
    Yanks Fan
    Tom in NJ
    Saucy

  25. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Congratulations go out to the following 4 winners of “Guess the Line Up”!!

    Jon Locke 2:49
    Durham Yankee 3:14
    YankeeRay 3:22
    CM 3:28

    Congratulations to our winners!!! Please tune in tomorrow at 2pm for another thrilling round of “Guess the Line Up”

    Updated standings to follow in a few minutes

  26. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    “WOO WOO WOO: Had to say it. ”

    Pete is hilarious. Love it.

  27. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    sweeny murti is reporting Ransom is out

  28. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Ransom is gone

  29. The Fair Pole August 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Pete-Nice musical selection on the IPOD. Can not go wrong w/Jackie. Could this song be your tribute to Ransom, j/k
    The other night when Cody entered the game as a pinch runner, I had a funny feeling that would be his last appearance as a Yankee.

  30. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    GUESS THE LINE UP STANDINGS!!!!
    Here are the current standings for “Guess the Line Up”.

    After 12 rounds, there have been 21 different winners as follows:

    Patrick the Prospect Hugger 2 Wins 7/27,7/17
    Ramey 2 Wins 7/22, 7/21
    Yanksfan 2 Wins 7/28, 7/29
    IDCWYT 7/28
    NoHype 7/28
    Andrew 7/27
    Bill 7/27
    BBfan 7/27
    Henner 7/27
    Eights 7/27
    RS 7/24
    WTTCTOH 7/24
    86w183 7/23
    Miggs 7/23
    Hokiehill 7/22
    ePic 7/29
    NYY626 8/4
    Jon Locke 8/5
    Durham Yankee 8/5
    YankeeRay 8/5
    CM 8/5
    Joe Girardi (no winner) 7/30, 7/31

  31. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Can I pop the cork on my DFA RANSOM bottle of bubbly???

  32. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.

    Sad for the guy but not sad for the team.
    Cody, good luck.

  33. Dave August 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Yay for Ransom!!

    See you again in a few weeks when nobody claims you and you’re back up in September.

  34. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    I was able to buy $120 seats for $35. (day of game). Then they added $5 each just to print them on my PC plus other misc taxes, etc. Still, the final ticket cost was abt $45 each by 3rd base just underneath the overhang.

  35. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Of course, that was on StudHub!

  36. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    bye cody…you had a good run last year and a terrible crawl this year…hope things work out for you

  37. Tak August 5th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Can the Jays shut down the NL-like lineup with Jeter, Damon, Teixeira, and A. Rod in it?

  38. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    When I have a drink tonight I’ll pour one for my fallen homie – Cody Ransom.

  39. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Ryan Freel was just DFA’d…great. :roll:

  40. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Hey for a guy with limited ability Ransom did manage to make the New York Yankees. It’s more than I was ever able to accomplish on a baseball field.

    Good luck, Cody.

  41. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Best wishes to Cody Ransom.

  42. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Ransom DFA
    not a difference maker
    he will not be missed

  43. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Nick in SF?, that was cold.

  44. Andrew August 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    We will miss your unbelievable leaping skills, Cody.

  45. saucY August 5th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    do we start a pool on the date Ransom makes his first start for the Mets?

    I’ll go with Saturday

  46. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
    August 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
    Nick in SF?, that was cold.

    ***

    If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid

  47. pat August 5th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Ransom had more of a baseball career than anyone posting here. Just saying.

  48. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Erica! Did I miss something???

    Rayvt
    August 5th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    ARod DH
    Swisher RF
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera CF
    Hairston 3B
    Molina C

  49. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Well I haven’t been on this blog in a while. Found out Ransom got DFA’d. Great and good luck to him.

  50. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    pat: that doesn’t disqualify us from calling him a bum, or a belly-itcher.

  51. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Cody Ransom has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than the All-Time HR Leader*

    so he has that going for him

  52. Oh Boy August 5th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Ransom’s my favorite player on the team. I thought for sure he’s break out and be a real All-Star.

  53. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    This blog wouldn’t get many comments if only major league quality (or Ransom quality) athletes could post.

    ‘not a difference maker’ is nicer than ‘negative difference maker’, isn’t it?

  54. Dan the Man August 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Good luck to Cody Ransom and we will all miss seeing this…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XZX946hWI

  55. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Just give Ransom directions to the No. 7 train.

    It’ll be quicker that way.

    He’ll also probably be on the DL within 3 days – The Curse of George Theodore I tell ya!

  56. CountryClub August 5th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Frank,

    That $5 fee to print them is way better than the fees they used to charge for the tickets to be overnighted.

  57. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    I will make Cody Ransom a deal. He can come to my softball games and heckle me when I make an error, as long as I can call him a bum on the internet.

  58. saucY August 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    “L to the 2nd
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
    Just give Ransom directions to the No. 7 train.”

    :D

  59. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    I would certainly rank playing for the NY Yankees as the very top of anyone’s career.

    So, I hope that all of you guys who have critiqued Cody Ransom so very harshly can look in your own life’s mirror and say that YOU reached the very top of your profession.

    Cody was a stand up guy who gave everything. Actually, one of the good guys on the team.

  60. Yanks Fan August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Flipping Swisher and Cano destroyed my 3rd victory. I would have rather gotten the line up completely wrong.

  61. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Nobody’s saying he isn’t a good guy – he probably is.

    Too bad he sucked.

  62. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    “If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid”

    And?

  63. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    RayVT-

    No, for some reason I wrote that you had Hairston playing RF. I went back to your original post. You are absolutely correct. I am so sorry

    Everyone-
    We have one additional winner for “Guess the Line Up”. RayVT won as well!!

    I will update my standings now

  64. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
    “If Nick was cold towards Cody, your attitude towards Shelly is downright frigid”

    And?

    ***

    Just pointing out the pot calling the kettle black!

  65. pat August 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Jerkface

    I don’t make a habit of calling anyone a bum or a belly itcher but particularly not someone who can say he was the starting 3B for the NY Yankees on the day the new Stadium opened.

  66. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    “This blog wouldn’t get many comments if only major league quality (or Ransom quality) athletes could post.”

    Nick, this blog would be Pat M talking to himself. I’d still read it, however.

  67. Jay Hirsch August 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    I’d rather see them bring up Russo than Pena (only @ .240 in SWB), but 40 man probably dictates.

  68. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    People can knock Ransom all they want, but, he was directly responsible for 3 wins, this year against Cleveland in April, Atlanta in June and the Twins in July.

  69. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Whose frigid?

    Here’s a relief pitcher probably put thru waivers and should clear, Shell out some $$$$$$.

    Francisco Cordero rhp
    4 years/$46M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option

    4 years/$46M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option

    signed by Cincinnati as a free agent 11/28/07
    $0.5M signing bonus
    08:$8.5M, 09:$12M, 10:$12M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M club option ($1M buyout)
    full no-trade clause 2008-09, limited no-trade clause thereafter
    award bonuses: $25,000 for All Star selection; $50,000 for LCS MVP; $0.1M for WS MVP; $0.1M for Rolaids ($75,000 for 2nd place, $50,000 for 3rd)

  70. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Hate to say “I told you so” but Stubhub now only has 800+ tickets available for tomorrow Sox game.

    Prices are WAY more expensive than they were yesterday. Hope everyone wanting to go to that game took my advice and got their tix already. Unless you like spending 3x face value.

    Can’t wait til the last minute on these premium games, you’ll only get burned.

  71. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Hey pat, that’s a pretty good future trivia question

  72. Zero August 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Cody Ransom DFA…today is a good day

  73. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t make a habit of calling anyone a bum or a belly itcher but particularly not someone who can say he was the starting 3B for the NY Yankees on the day the new Stadium opened.

    One day I am gonna look back on this season and ask my friends, ‘Remember that belly itcher who started at third when the new stadium opened?”

    Cody Ransom is trivia. He isn’t major league quality baseball player.

  74. Matt (NYY fan in Boston) August 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Best of luck to Ransom. He was somewhat like an Andy Phillips type player, but more versatile and less skillful. Hopefully, if he is outrighted to Triple-A, he can improve and make a difference for Scranton. If he does that, than he can help himself in spring training and help his reputation.

  75. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Cody may be a nice guy but it’s about results. Cody can’t produce so he has to go.

  76. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?

  77. Iconoclast August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    GB7, Glad to see you here. I’m off for the evening (in Europe) but wanted to repost from a thread early this morning and ask your help:

    Iconoclast
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 am
    GB7 – If you’re there today, maybe you could help me with a question, please?

    I realize that very few pitchers make the jump from AA to the majors and that McAllister is, in any case, apparently out for the rest of the year. However didn’t the Yankees Rollie Sheldon go direct from AA to the Yanks in the early 60’s? I believe he went something like 11 – 6.

    I know that he subsequently had a very short career – 4 or 5 years. Could you tell me/us why?

    Thanks

  78. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Or maybe we can get one of these winners on the Reds!!!

    Aaron Harang rhp
    4 years/$36.5M (2007-10), plus 2011 club option

    re-signed by Cincinnati 2/07 (avoided arbitration, $5.5M-$4.25M)
    07:$4.25M, 08:$6.75M, 09:$11M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$12.75M ($2M buyout)
    2011 option increases to $13M with 210 IP in 2010
    if traded, 2011 option becomes mutual option at $14M ($2.5M buyout)

    Bronson Arroyo rhp
    2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option

    2 years/$25M (2009-10), plus 2011 club option
    signed extension with Cincinnati 2/07

    $2.5M signing bonus (paid 2008)
    09:$9.5M, 10:$11M, 11:$11M club option ($2M buyout)
    2011 option may increase to $13M based on IP
    agreed to give up 2008 performance bonuses as part of deal

  79. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    miggs, I’ll be at the game tomorrow but I’ve had my tickets for months.

  80. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?

    Flowchart

    Did the yankees lose? Yes -> Did Cody Ransom Play? Yes -> Count it!

  81. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    #23 Hitman
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
    Green Beret…..how many is he responsible (or partly) for losing?

    ———————————————————–

    Less than Jeter, less than Rodriguez, less than Cano, etc.

    He didn’t provide a lot of production, but his RBIs and runs scored in those three games provided the margin of difference.

  82. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    “Just pointing out the pot calling the kettle black!”

    Nick is Mr.Funny…that’s rare for him to rip a player. He winded back and gave a swift kick to Cody Ransom, I’ve never seen him do that and we had sunglasses pitching for use last season.

  83. Whatever August 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Slade Heathcott…that’s just his porn name, right?

  84. Jon Locke August 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    FYI- For all you people checking stubhub for tickets this weekend, keep checking..

    Tickets will drop drastically between 3-5 PM on the day of the game (well for Thurs/Fri)..

    I’m sure not many of you want to spend $100 per bleacher seat right now.. I’m a season ticket holder and I know for a fact these tix will drop close to game time..

    Of course if you are traveling and need them quicker, you may be not find a great deal right now..

    Also check e-bay, sometimes it’s a lot cheaper and you don’t pay any extra fees.

  85. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Iconoclast
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    GB7, Glad to see you here. I’m off for the evening (in Europe) but wanted to repost from a thread early this morning and ask your help:

    ———————————————————–

    I answered that earlier, Ico. I’ll go back and copy it in a second.

  86. Jobamania August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    The Red Sox are reportedly calling up Billy Traber from Triple-A Pawtucket.
    The team’s bullpen is thin after Tuesday’s 13-inning loss to the Rays, so Traber will provide some depth. No word yet on a corresponding roster move

    Now watch how he will become an allstar in the redsox bullpen

  87. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “People can knock Ransom all they want”

    Thanks you! Finally someone gets it.

  88. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    “I’d rather see them bring up Russo than Pena (only @ .240 in SWB), but 40 man probably dictates.”

    Pena is batting above .300 away from Scranton, he just hates it there.LOL

  89. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Jerface

    Cody sucked. I don’t know why everyone who said that Cody shouldn’t be on this team is now getting attacked. The team will be better because of this move.

  90. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Thank-you Erica!

  91. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Iconoclast
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 am
    GB7 – If you’re there today, maybe you could help me with a question, please?

    I realize that very few pitchers make the jump from AA to the majors and that McAllister is, in any case, apparently out for the rest of the year. However didn’t the Yankees Rollie Sheldon go direct from AA to the Yanks in the early 60’s? I believe he went something like 11 – 6.

    I know that he subsequently had a very short career – 4 or 5 years. Could you tell me/us why?

    Thanks

    ————————————————————

    Roland Sheldon came out of a Class D leadue (equivelant to Charleston of the Sally League now). This was after one year in the majors. Because of the depth of the rotation the next year, Sheldon bounced between relief and starting and was ineffective in 1962. In 1963 he was sent back to the minors. After that, he bounced around.

    I didn’t say that McAllister was finished for the year, only that he’d been shut down since 11 July for a tired arm. He should be pitching soon.

  92. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Patrick I’m going Friday night courtesy of a friend’s corporate box.

    I don’t mess with StubHub when it comes to premium games.
    I’m much more likely to exploit that system for a Tuesday night game against the Mariners. Not an August weekend series against the Sox.

  93. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Nick LOL what did Cody ever do to you.

  94. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    GB7…..I’ll give you those three games. But how many more did he play in that he played just downright awful? Not digging the guy, but this team got a lot better when Hairston got moved and finally Ransom was DFA’d.

  95. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Nick in SF
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    “People can knock Ransom all they want”

    Thanks you! Finally someone gets it.

    ————————————————————

    Taken just a little out of context, though, wouldn’t you say?

  96. Joe August 5th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Anyone see that Curt Schilling has changed his hardline stance on steroid users? No call to “take away accomplishments” like he said with Bonds, or to not “trust anything that happened after” Manny’s & Otriz’s steroid use, like he suggested with Clemens. Who knew that Curt was just a big lying phoney? Shocking…

  97. The Fair Pole August 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Ransom played his way out of a job on the Yankees roster. Plain and simple.
    If he ends up in AAA, then I’m ok with that. We could always use his help in about a month when the roster expands.

  98. Eric August 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Joe, do you have a link? I would love to fwd that to my annoying, Boston-loving co-workers!

  99. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    More on Roland Sheldon:

    http://www.baseball-reference......ro01.shtml

  100. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Joe, do you have a link? I would love to fwd that to my annoying, Boston-loving co-workers!

    Check the front page of a little known website named n o m a a s . org

    They blasted schilling pretty good with all of his quotes dated

  101. Lambchop Louie August 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Ransom was probably given a ticket to Newark Liberty and a Metro card.
    If anybody sees him wandering around lost in Bed-Stuy or Far Rockaway, kindly advise him to use the B-D-or 4 train and get back to the Bronx to pick up his personal items.

  102. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Another likely pitcher to be on waivers as we speak, and whose salary will be dumped on the first to claim him!!!

    Paul Maholm lhp
    3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option

    3 years/$14.5M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option

    signed extension with Pittsburgh 1/30/09 (avoided arbitration, $3.8M-$2.65M)
    $1.5M signing bonus

    09:$2M, 10:$4.5M, 11:$5.75M, 12:$9.75M club option ($0.75M buyout)
    2012 option may increase by $1.3M to $11.05M based on performance
    award bonuses

    Don’t want to spend any money-there’s Sidney Ponson!!! LOL

    Will the Steinbrenners expand the payroll to help bring a championship this year?????

  103. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    #23 Hitman
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    GB7…..I’ll give you those three games. But how many more did he play in that he played just downright awful? Not digging the guy, but this team got a lot better when Hairston got moved and finally Ransom was DFA’d.

    ————————————————————

    He’s no more solely responsible for losses than his is for wins. 11 losses, 20 wins in his games. Which ones does he get get credit or blamed for?

  104. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Cody seemed like a good guy and quite an athelete, but he didn’t play well and the Yanks had better options.

    It is hard to quantify how any player helps or hurts a team because of the unknowns. Would Joe G play a better option. Would the oposing team make a change. etc.

    That said, Cody will find a spot somewhere if not across town. I wish him the best.

  105. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    “FYI- For all you people checking stubhub for tickets this weekend, keep checking..

    Tickets will drop drastically between 3-5 PM on the day of the game (well for Thurs/Fri)..”

    John I’ll put this as nicely as I can….. you have NO CLUE.

    Tickets only drop at the last minute when there are a lot available for non-premium games.

    Yesterday at this time there were 1800+ tickets available for Thursday’s game. Today there are 800+ and those tickets are way more expensive than those SAME tickets were yesterday.

    By the time it hits 4 PM tomorrow the few tickets that are left will be even more expensive than they are now (if there are any left at all).

    Its simple supply demand.

    Anyone that wants to go tomorrow night better get in the stick immediately or risk not having any shot at obtaining any tickets at all.

    They sold 100+ tickets in the last 24 hours. What makesyou think those last 800 tickets willlast abother 24 hours?

    Use your head man. This isn’t complicated.

  106. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    This team is a lot better, now that the bench has been addressed!!

  107. Eric August 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Thanks jerkface!!!

  108. Mike August 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    About time Ransom was DFA’d. He’s been one of the worst players in baseball and it was unbelievable he got ANY playing at all.

  109. champ809 August 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    “last 10 games .161

    post ASB .197/.310/.410
    RISP .248 AVG

    how does he help us?”

    forget the last 10 games his career slg percentage vs. LHP is over .520 and only Tex has more homers in the organization than Shelly…which is why it made ABSOLUTELY no sense to choose to keep Ransom on the roster over Shelly last wknd in Chi when you were facing 4 LHPs in a 4 game series after Cash made the move for Hairston….dumb move and it makes me think that Girardi has something personal against Shelly…it’s got to be….calling up Clagget makes no sense either unless Aceves has to be DL’ed because there are 3 RHRP(Bruney,Robertson,Melancon) whom he almost never uses anyway….i would like to see Cash overule him on some of these roster moves and Bring Shelly up leave Pena down to play everyday and develop his bat and OF skills more until sept 1 because Hairston is going to play ahead of Pena anyway so what’s the point in him watching games in the BX better for him to be playing in Scranton….plus Shelley’s EARNED IT!!!!

  110. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    1000+ tickets in last 24 hours not 100+

  111. chrisA August 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Say what you want about Cody Ransom ( and most of you have), but the guy played for the NY Yankees. And You ?

  112. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Ransom has a lucrative career as the backup in any side scrolling Donkey Kong video game. man can he jump a barrel

  113. Eights August 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.

    Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

  114. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Oh my goodness gracious, is it now required to say what a great guy Cody Ransom is and how neat it was for thim that he got to play in pinstripes and that I wish him well etc. before saying I’m glad he isn’t on our team anymore?

    I have nothing against Cody Ransom; it’s the forces that put him on the team I root for that I take issue with.

    Ransom just wasn’t that good even as a 25th man. But I appreciate the (few) positive contributions he made.

    I saw him play as a San Francisco Baseball Giant and he wasn’t good enough to make it there either.

    On a personal level, I imagine it must be hard to be one of the very best baseball players in the world and yet not be good enough to stick with the major league team that was employing you.

    It’s all about perspective. Cody was very well paid for his services and I think he gets to keep the money he was paid. Maybe now he can stick with yet another team.

    Goodbye and good luck.

  115. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Hmm that brings up a good point. Should Cody Ransom be allowed to keep all the money he made? Maybe we could make him give it back somehow

  116. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Ramiro Pena’s defense is going to improve this team so much. Sitting Jeter/Cano/A-Rod wont be so hard on me soul anymore. The bench will be nice.

  117. MG August 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.

    It isn’t Ransom’s fault that he isn’t a star or anything more than a borderline major league player. He plays as hard as he can and contributes to the level of his ability.

    But to see the abuse on this board and the constant whining and complaining about him as soon as his name is in the lineup once a week is pathetic and shows how shallow you support of the Yankees really is.

  118. rconn23 August 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    I think this thread might break the Guinness record for the most posts dedicated to Cody Ransom.

    That’s not a good thing, by the way.

    He’s gone, everyone’s happy. We get it.

  119. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.

    Almost as embarrassing as Cody Ransom’s level of play

  120. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Yeah he played for the Yankees and was terrible, Whats your point?

  121. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    LOL Nick, ok I feel ya.

    champ809, please give it rest w/ Shelley Duncan, you know who else was once Shelley, Shane Spencer, only he was an actual MLB player, Shelley is a AAAA player nothing more.

  122. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Did anyone see that the Red Sox backed out of an agreement with a prospect named Payano? They said he didn’t pass a physical. Boy that name is so close to … well you know!

  123. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Nobody’s claiming that Ransom was the best option now for NYY. His defense at third wasn’t good, though it was good at the other positions. Guess what? Pena’s defense at third base stunk, too. NYY has better options now than at the beginning of the year. Short of raiding the minor league system and getting held up for a third baseman in a trade, they made do. It was better than trading a young pitcher Jackson to Seattle for Belte’s injury filled season and big contract…and that was the option.

  124. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    1. Hopefully, Mitre is great and Claggett goes back to AAA tomorrow.
    For all the Shelley haters, I ask this question.
    How can you use stats on prospects in the minors for other players and then not use them for Shelley? He is blasting the ball down there. Chad Jennings over on the SWB board said that he hoped that Shelley would get another chance because he has earned it. He also said he wished people wouldn’t be so down on Shelley just because he had trouble adjusting last year to the ML. He said Shelley is different this year! Since he see a He__uva lot more games of him than the rest of us, I trust him more than this boards viewpoint. Should I remind everyone here of how many times the board has gone AWOL over Posada, Andy, Joba, Hughes, Jeter, ARod, Melky, Cano, ….

    Shelley is crushing the ball, especially LHP. I would hope that someone of importance wouldn’t make a decision based on an at bat or one game about some of these guys. If that were the case, then Mantle, Williams, Ruth, ARod, Berra and others would have been DFA’d before they became stars.

  125. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    “Taken just a little out of context, though, wouldn’t you say?”

    ;)

  126. Bill August 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Maybe it was circumstance or maybe it was Duncan not playing well but Joe G has never really used him when he’s been up over the last 2 years(this year 1 day). Could be he is not Joe’s type of player (versatile, athletic)?

  127. Backbench August 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Thanks to MarK Craig for this must read. I look forward to everyone’s reaction.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

  128. Alan August 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    No need to bemoan Cody Ransom. Players are fair with their teammates. He stands a chance of a good pro-rated World Series share.

  129. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    “Shelley is crushing the ball, especially LHP”

    Bam Bam Duncan

    last 10 games .161

    post ASB .197/.310/.410
    RISP .248 AVG

    Into outerspace I see.

  130. MG August 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    the Yankees are in 1st place in the toughest division in MLB by 1 1/2 games.

    If they had beaten the Sox 3 times when they had the game in hand they would be 7 1/2 games in front and no one would be concerned about either the #5 starter or the #25 guy on the roster.

    Ransom had nothing to do with the losses in those 3 games, they were:

    1. Mo blowing a save in the 9th inning on Bay’s HR
    2. AJ blowing a 6-0 lead against Beckett the following day
    3. Girardi making a bad decision to leave CC in the game in the 8th inning with the Yankees holding a 4-1 lead because he didn’t trust his 8th inning relievers.

    The above is all part of baseball and something I’m pretty sure the Yankees won’t be doing during the 7 upcoming games in August against the Sox.

    Ransom has been released and won’t take any more abuse on this blog but I’m sure there will be a new one very, very shortly. What a waste of blog space, though.

  131. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I don’t quite understand the love for Pena. He is a good glove at SS, but not at 3B or really 2B. He isn’t an OF yet although he may be okay later. He isn’t a hitter as he was exposed after a few at bats. He is an okay backup utility player, but nothing special.

    Hairston can play everywhere Pena plays only better. He is also a better hitter. He is also a better baserunner. The Yanks don’t need 2 utility guys until maybe Septemeber when the rosters expand. The Yanks have need a RH power hitter which the Yanks have a few. Shelley is the only one who was brought up (1 game) for that slot and Joe Genius played Cody over him. I mean that is kind of crazy. Perhaps, Cashman was a bit upset that his waiver move was ignored for AKA Cody Ransom and DFA’d that choice away from Joe.

    I’m not sure how many people on here would choose Cody over Shelley for a position that Shelley can play!

  132. Linkoln August 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    MG
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    it’s almost embarrassing to read a blog where the 25th guy on the roster takes abuse on a minute by minute basis.

    It isn’t Ransom’s fault that he isn’t a star or anything more than a borderline major league player. He plays as hard as he can and contributes to the level of his ability.

    But to see the abuse on this board and the constant whining and complaining about him as soon as his name is in the lineup once a week is pathetic and shows how shallow you support of the Yankees really is.

    – -

    Hey, MG…can we DFA you? Make sure you don’t fall off that high horse. Laughable. This is a baseball blog, not Miss Emily Post’s Teahouse.

  133. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    “Hairston can play everywhere Pena plays only better. He is also a better hitter. He is also a better baserunner.”

    You get better defensively in more than 1 spot, how hard is that for you to realize?

  134. DT - OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    As an OPPC poster – I can say this positively about Cody Ransom.

    I liked his playing ability more than Angel Berroa.

  135. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Hey, if we’re dickering over who should be the 24th or 25th guy on the team, I’d say they’re doing OK…

    Could be worse -

    Could be the Mutts…

  136. Eights August 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    I love it how people have changed their minds about Ransom since he was DFA’d.

    Every time Cody Ransom’s name is in the line, the only thing I hear is people complaining about how much they think he sucks and how he’s such a liability.

    The minute he is DFA’d, the crowd changes and it becomes “Well, he wasn’t the greatest, but he tried his best.”

    Come on. Each and every one of you is thankful he is gone, stop hiding behind your comments.

  137. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    “Hey, MG…can we DFA you? Make sure you don’t fall off that high horse. Laughable. This is a baseball blog, not Miss Emily Post’s Teahouse.”

    I laughed.

    MG don’t take this personally but it was pretty funny..

    Honestly, Cody Ransom is a bad player. That’s the simple truth, if you guys don’t want to hear it you probably shouldn’t be on a baseball blog. A lot of worse things are said around here.

  138. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    No need to bemoan Cody Ransom. Players are fair with their teammates. He stands a chance of a good pro-rated World Series share.

    Cody Ransom should have to pay the yankees because of the profits he will invariably receive from the ‘Road to the World Series: 2009 Yankees Edition’ DVD and picture book set

  139. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Prediction:

    10 days from now: Ransom signed a to a minor league contract by Mets, immediately brought up.

    11 days from now: Ransom goes on the DL after slipping on a banana peel in the shower after tripping over Luis Castillo.

  140. Bret the Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    The beginning of the end, I fear.

  141. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I have enjoyed reading the posts on this site for more than a year. However, lately, the information sharing posts have not been all that interesting and insightful.

    The regulars on here never disappoint.

    However there are those on the fringe… posters like Jerkface need to clean it up & refrain from the atypical sophomoric behavior.

  142. Wow. August 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I see we have a particularly nasty group of people today. Shameful. Why you would want to come across as so crass doesn’t make sense to me. Guess you never lost a job.

  143. MG August 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    if Duncan wasn’t a liability in the outfield he’d most likely be with the Yankees but where do you use him?

    Hinkse is a better hitter and at least as good an outfielder (which isn’t saying much) and sits 5 nights a week.

    So, if Duncan is on the roster, he and Hinske both play once every two weeks depending who is pitching.

    Hairston doesn’t have power but can hit, run, looks like a really good 3rd baseman (maybe even better than Arod-certainly has more range) and can play the outfield. He was a perfect pickup for the Yankees for nothing.

    I’d also like Pena on the roster until at least Gardner’s return, he gives them flexibility and can steal a base.

  144. L to the 2nd August 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    MG:

    Hairston has 8 HRs. So does David Wright.

  145. Bullet Bill August 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    “Cody Ransom has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than the All-Time HR Leader*

    so he has that going for him”

    Actually this is wrong. Ransom’s name won’t even be on the voting list. So he will get zero votes. Bonds will be on the voting list. The writers can vote for him. He will get at least as much support as McGwire, and probably a good amount more. So, even if he doesn’t get in, his chance to get in is much much higher than Cody Ransom’s chances. Duh.

  146. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I see we have a particularly nasty group of people today. Shameful. Why you would want to come across as so crass doesn’t make sense to me. Guess you never lost a job.

    The difference between myself and Cody Ransom is that when I airmail something it doesn’t cost my company runs.

  147. MG August 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    so I suppose the point of a baseball blog is to repeat the same complaints 50X a day, right?

    very informative…

  148. betsy August 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Ok, Evan Roberts is an idiot. Some caller called into Joe and Evan wondering what the Yankees’ record with CC and AJ on the mount are compared to the Sox’ with Beckett and Lester (implying that CC and AJ have not done a good job). The Yankees admittedly do not have a good record (I think .500) with CC on the mound, but how can Evan lump AJ with him? I don’t know it off hand but I believe the Yankees have a very good record in AJ’s starts. I don’t get how Evan can imply that AJ has generally not given the Yankees what they expected of him when actually I think he’s pitched far better than most people thought he would (and just came off a brilliant stretch of pitching). Don’t these guys think before they speak?

  149. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Cody Ransom is one of the only players in baseball with more than 50 PA’s and negative run values against more than 4 pitch types

    -2.1 on Fastballs, -1.8 on sliders, -.1 on curves, -1.1 on changes, -.6 on knucklers

    But it can be said that Cody Ransom once played professional baseball

  150. Bullet Bill August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “I love it how people have changed their minds about Ransom since he was DFA’d.

    Every time Cody Ransom’s name is in the line, the only thing I hear is people complaining about how much they think he sucks and how he’s such a liability.

    The minute he is DFA’d, the crowd changes and it becomes “Well, he wasn’t the greatest, but he tried his best.”

    Come on. Each and every one of you is thankful he is gone, stop hiding behind your comments.”

    Yeah, what the heck is this all about? Where was the love for Jose Veras when he was DFA’d? Nobody seemed to care. But now we should feel some big loss for Cody Ransom? Eh, I’m not so sure. I’m glad that he will no longer be hurting the Yankees. What the heck took so long? Ramiro Pena should have stayed over Ransom the whole time.

  151. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Backbench-
    Enjoyed the article you attached at 4:40.

    Dan Haren is the man. Glad we didn’t get Santana. Neftali Perez could be the next Zumaya. Skip Schumaker will make a good hitting coach someday.

  152. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.

    Of course, that’s changed a bit since then. How many will deny saying it besides the original utterer?

  153. Bronx Born August 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Sorry I gotta agree with MG. Sure am happy Cody was DFA’ed but that does not mean you spend all this time berating him. MG has a point waste of space but also time and thought. What kind of jollies do you get kicking someone when they are down?

  154. champ809 August 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    RAYVT
    exactly my point! i’m not about to buy a Shelly Duncan jersey nor am i suggesting that he’s Pujols…but the #’s show that he can be a productive bat if given the chance…problem is guys like Brandon like to repeat terms like “AAAA player” without knowing what they really mean…did you know some genius chatboard GM like yourself once said “Ryan Ludwick is a AAAA player” until he got his opportunity at regular play and 500abs and he hit 37hrs and knocked in 120 @ 30 years of age btw…Casey Blake was thought to be a “AAAA” player by some as well until he finally got a shot at regular playing time and the rest is history…he btw was one of the best hitters last year w/risp…learn the game baby then come talk to me

    Shelly’s #’s in ’07 74abs/7hrs/17rbis .554slg%…extrapolate that out over 500abs 40+hrs/100+rbis….maybe reaching to think that but i think he’d be just as good a hitter over a full season in the majors as he’s doing right now!
    another question Gardners first shot how’d he look? overmatched! then he settled in became productive had a great spring won the starting CF job lost it because he again looked overmatched got his legs under him and now we see he clearly not only can be a productive player but in fact he is what he was in his minor league career as well…Shelley’s going to get his shot next year from someone i’d like it to be us and i think this team right now could use him…..imo

  155. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Yankee Trader
    August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
    Backbench-
    Enjoyed the article you attached at 4:40.

    Dan Haren is the man. Glad we didn’t get Santana. Neftali Perez could be the next Zumaya. Skip Schumaker will make a good hitting coach someday.

    ————————————————————

    When NYY was looking at center fielders over te witer and this year, schumaker was the one that I wanted to see on the Yankees. Solid dfense and a good bat who could lead off or hit second.

  156. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Bringing Pena up before September serves zero purpose. Pena needs work on being a utility player & backup SS. He is young and needs to play. He isn’t a top prospect by any imagination. His upside is a utility player.

    Hinske is a LH batter. Shelley is a RH batter. Both have trouble with pitchers that correlate with their batting stance. That is why Shelley was brought up. They could have brought up Juan Miranda, JRod or Shelley.

    BTW, Hairston is a great base runner while Pena is slightly above average.

  157. number18 August 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    ransom dfa’d just MADE MY DAY!

    i kinda feel bad for the guy and hope he gets another shot… but not on the yankees… i cant take anymore!!!!!

    do you think we’ll see ramiro pena up to provide some speed off the bench for the sox series??

  158. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Not sure I understand the “flexibility” advantage of Pena being on the roster with Hairston on the team.

    If Pena is on the team, the bench is Hairston, Hinske, Pena and Molina. What moves can we make with that which Pena’s flexibility assists?

    I’m no big Duncan fan but he can hit it out against LHP. That’s worth a little, and balances Hinske.

  159. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Ransom is DFAd. We have not seen the last of him.
    If no one claims him, h ewill go to Scraton and will be called up on 1st Sptember.

    I wish him all the best.
    He deserves to be DFAd based on performance, but the negativity about him here is just unbelievable.
    I guess it is mostly kids, but you will know what it is like when you go through hard times.

  160. Bullet Bill August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    “The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.”

    LOL…wow. I don’t even remember that one. Wow. Anybody who ever thought the Yanks would have been better with Cody Ransom as opposed to ARod is just insane, and also probably knows nothing about baseball. I mean this is a pretty simple concept: All-Time Great Hitter > Cody Ransom

  161. Backbench August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Trader:

    Glad to do it. Here is Craig article that presents Andy’s strength and how Jose has been pushing.

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....ettit.html

    A little diversion from the Ransom crucifixion.

  162. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....-chat.html

    lol at the name of the chat

  163. Cody Ransom is and was pure garbage August 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Ransom had a firm handshake, looked you right in the eye, but he’s terrible

  164. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    champ809
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    I agree Champ! BTW, when Shelley played in 2006 the Yanks caught lightning in a bottle with him as he was very productive under a different Joe’s role!

  165. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Ransom can join Joey Gathright in the ‘hall of fame for people with incredible athletic talents not applicable to the game of baseball’

  166. MG August 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    RayVt, bringing up Duncan provides the possibility of a low average hitter with power off the bench. He is a liability in the outfield, we both know that and would best be used against left handed pitchers.

    He’d probably get 40 At bats the rest of the season, maximum. And, when Gardner comes back he’d be back in the minors until the September callups.

    I just don’t see where it’s going to make a difference in the Yankees season. I also don’t see where you can extrapolate his 2007 stats to 2009 and ignore the 2008 stats, the best you can do is sum them and it then comes out about 25 HR’s, 75 RBI’s, 50 walks and 110 K’s. His onbase percentage is .299. Swisher has better numbers than that, plays almost passable defense in right field and 1st base, and is a switch hitter.

  167. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    I seem to agree with you a lot!! LOL! I like your opinions!! LOL!

  168. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    To the Duncan lovers: He can not be called up for 10 days since he was sent back. It has been only four days.

  169. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Yankees bullpen will dictate how deep their run into October will be…….Aceves health is of paramount importance…..Two arms must surface soon, real soon…..

  170. Uncle Ellsworth August 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Now that Ransom is gone who is your new whipping boy?

  171. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Two arms must surface soon, real soon

    Avast! A water spout, starboard! Yarr, its a spotted melancon!

  172. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    who the hell is Shelley Duncan taking ABs away from :lol:

  173. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Bullet Bill
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
    “The only opinion of Ransom that’s changed is from this spring when a certain writer declared that Ransom was a better option at third base than Alex Rodriguez (Ransom was hitting over .375 at the time with homers and run production). 75% of this board agreed with said writer.”

    LOL…wow. I don’t even remember that one. Wow. Anybody who ever thought the Yanks would have been better with Cody Ransom as opposed to ARod is just insane, and also probably knows nothing about baseball. I mean this is a pretty simple concept: All-Time Great Hitter > Cody Ransom

    ————————————————————

    It’s not that they don’t know baseball, it was immature, idiotic bias. They don’t like him because he colored the tips of his hair, used a tanning booth and took his shirt off in Central Park (when his family was present). This, of course, made him a phoney.

  174. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Now that Ransom is gone who is your new whipping boy?

    ———————————————–

    When does Brian Bruney pitch next?

  175. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Bullet Bill
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Back in the Bash ARod era of this year there were quite a few people who were so down on ARod that they were saying play Pena or Ransom over him because they could at least play Defense. The same irrational words were also used for Jeter (who found his lost steps because he isn’t injured). Lastly, there was the we want Cervelli over Posada crew as well. If the fans on here were running things we’d have a lineup that hit .200 with no power and a great bullpen with not enough strating pitchers.

  176. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    To those feeling Cody or his mom might be wounded by some of the comments being flung in Cody’s direction today-

    Following the old adage “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” makes for a dull blog with very few comments, don’t you think?

    In other news, if the Yanks send down the 13th pitcher they will call up Pena because they clearly want 2 back-up infielders on the roster and have since the beginning of the season.

    Makes no sense to me but it must to the Yanks.

  177. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I’m in SUCH a happy mood! What a nice way to end last night – watching Evan Longoria do his thing.

    I will quote from what I said in a post last night:

    “Well here’s a way to look at it so far. Even though we wanted the Rays to take the game, don’t forget that the more beat up the Sux players are the better. So maybe it’s meant for these games to be lengthy with the Rays hopefully the victors so things will be better for us when the Sux hit the Bronx…

    Always trying to look for a silver lining.”

    That was after the Rays left the bases loaded for the second time. I believe in may have been in the 10th, don’t quite remember. And it turned out to be the case! The moral of the story is never despair until you know there is reason!!!!

    Anyway, it certainly shouldn’t hurt that Penny is pitching (as opposed to pinching!) tonight.

    I have faith in Sergio Mitre!

    It really is fun going through life with a perpetual smile. Even though people think you’re daffy sometimes, it beats going through life with a perpetual frown, I do believe.

    Okey dokey, finoke. Check you out later.

    :)

  178. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    75% of LoHud commenters agreed that Cody Ransom was a better option at 3rd base than Arod?

    Heck, I doubt the person who wrote that in the first place even believed it.

  179. stuart a August 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    hallelujah….noransom.. the yanks do not like to embarras there players so they delayed the inevitable a few days..

    go down to SWB and come up in sept. next roster move add either shelly or ramiro pena….

  180. kill.schill(ing) August 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Are we sure the Yankees are ultimately going to recall Pena and not Shelly Duncan?

    I’d like to continue to see Pena play every day until September 1st and of course, I’d love to see Shelly make it up to NY for the Boston series.

    Nothing would hearten me more than to watch Shelly slide hard into 2nd base to disrupt a double-play and hear the crowd to erupt.

  181. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Never fails, post something tongue-in-cheek and someone w/zero sense of humor will take it and run w/it.

    That’s the price one pays for refusing to use emoticons, I guess.

  182. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    MG
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
    RayVt, bringing up Duncan provides the possibility of a low average hitter with power off the bench. He is a liability in the outfield, we both know that and would best be used against left handed pitchers.
    ———————————–
    Ah, yes! The Yanks have been weak against LH pitching for years. ARod was the only RH hitter with pop last year and it hurt him as teams pitched around him. Shelley hits lefthanders well. Hinske hits RH pitchers well. You have a righty/lefty power PH tandem. Hairston is the guy who runs for them if they get on base and plays defense for them.

  183. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Pat M-

    The bullpen may not be all that necessary for October success.

    If the Yanks finish with the best record, they can choose the “stretched out” division championship series with extra off days, meaning they can get away with three starters, with Hughes and Joba/Andy in the pen. That will be good enough.

    The WS is stretched out enough that they could do the same thing with the #1 pitcher starting game 7 on short rest.

    Just a thought.

  184. Mike August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Seriously, why are people defending the on-field Ransom? Because he was a nice guy? Because he was the 25th player (supposedly)? If that’s the case, sign me up to be the 25th player. I’ll suck but it won’t matter since I’m the 25th player. And people can’t be defending him because he’s in the majors and I’m not. Ransom SHOULD NOT be in the majors.

    The goal of the 2009 Yankees is to win the World Series. Ransom is a roadblock to that goal. When a player that bad gets to play 1-3 times a week, that is not good. It is counter productive. Sure, his replacement won’t Alberto Pujols. But if it’s Pena than its somewhat who has a great glove and will be productive for his role. Not only was Ransom a bad hitter, but a horrible fielder.

    This is a good day because the Yanks got better simply by DFA’ing someone.

    And don’t confuse this with “negativity”. It’s just the truth. He was a bad baseball player. The Yanks released which is good for the team. End of story. That simple.

  185. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    BBFan
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Actually, Shelley can come back if there is an injury before 10 days. Claggett might go on the DL! LOL!

  186. kill.schill(ing) August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    My sincerest regrets and fondest wishes to Cody Ransom and his family. May he find work somewhere the rest of the season.

    Who knows? If anymore Mets fall down the stairs, Ransom may find himself playing in the New Ebbets Field.

    Talk about curses? To model a stadium on where the consummate cursed franchise, the Brooklyn Bums, used to play has to invite bad luck.

  187. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Wave Your Hat,

    I agree with you. The 25th roster spot isn’t all that important but why have redundancies when you don’t have to? Hairston already covers whatever role Pena could cover if he were called up. At least Duncan can fill in occasionally vs a lefty pitcher and maybe pinch hit late in games.

    Of the limited options in AAA, Duncan is the best choice.

  188. Hova August 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    From Tim McCarver via Justin Terranova and the NY Post (http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....ips_y.html)

    The thought of limiting Chamberlain leaves FOX analyst and former major-leaguer Tim McCarver incredulous.

    “I could go on for a half day about it,” McCarver said.

    “They want to limit him to somewhere between 140-170 innings. You are fighting for a division, you are fighting for a pennant here — what are you taking about? Show me one doctor who has come up with conclusive evidence that a pitcher who is 24-years-old should throw only 140-170 innings. If he throws 190, what’s going to happen is his arm going to fall off? What’s the gage? It drives me up a wall.”

    “It doesn’t sound like a team me that has said anything short of a World Championship is a disappointment to their fans,” McCarver said. “If you are going to have your best out there, Joba Chamberlain is going to have to pitch.”

    ———————————

    As much as I hate this guy, I kind of agree. I want to see Joba out there come playoff time. He’s just starting to show us how good he can be, and we’re contending for a title, he has to be in the rotation.

  189. vtyankeefan-the original!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Seems like a good night to finish off Toronto and then onto the Boston series to get some redemption.

  190. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    If Ransom or Pena were the answer for what the Yankees needed then they would not have traded for Hairston!

  191. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    I take it Tim McCarver is not a big believer in the Verducci Effect, even though it has been proven time and time again.

    Where’s Dion Sanders and his big bucket of water when you need him?

  192. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    When does Brian Bruney pitch next?

    ““““““““““
    Girardi will have to see how far Mitre goes in the game. Hughes and Mariano may be held back for the Boston series leaving Robertson, Melancon, Bruney, Claggett, and for maybe one lefty batter, Coke.
    Not sure if Aceves can be used yet.

  193. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.

  194. MG August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    RayVt, you are entitled to your opinion but the Yankees have murdered lefties this year with a .295 team batting average against them. This is very different than it has been for many years-they have Teix, Posada and Melky who all switch hit plus Matsui, Damon, and Cano all hit lefties very well. Last year, of that list, only Cano and Damon were healthy.

  195. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    I could see this just now.

    Yankees are down 3-2

    On the bench Matsui-san, Hairston, Duncan, Posada & Nick Swisher…there’s a LHP it’s the 10th the Yankees tied it in the 9th. 7,8,9 are coming up and there’s 2 outs a runner on 1B…ofcourse he’d go to Shelley Duncan LOL over them all.

  196. champ809 August 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Brandon your point about the lst 10 days for Shelly is juvenile….example what’s Jorge’s #’s look like the last 10 days? all hitters go through slumps….and in Shelley’s case i think it maybe getting to him a lil bit that he hasn’t been called up and given a shot yet when all he’s done is carried the AAA team on his back all year and lead the international league in homers and rbis….

  197. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Wave, What you suggest about stretching out the pitching will work for the ALDS, which is absurdly long….Because of that TV obligation Game 7 is scheduled for Nov. 1st…..Also I agree with you about giving Duncan a shot at being a RH option off the bench….I thought when Kevin James arrived that Swisher could field that role…..A righthanded power stick is needed though, and has been needed since Sheffield left….

  198. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    We should be thankful McCarver wasn’t saying that Joba should be in the bullpen.

  199. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Patrick-

    I agree with you on Duncan but I forgot about the 10 day rule, which will keep the Yanks from calling him up. By the time the 10 days run hopefully Gardner will be close to coming back.

    Duncan’s just in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong club for him, unfortunately for Shelley.

  200. 77513 August 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    “They want to limit him to somewhere between 140-170 innings. You are fighting for a division, you are fighting for a pennant here — what are you taking about? Show me one doctor who has come up with conclusive evidence that a pitcher who is 24-years-old should throw only 140-170 innings. If he throws 190, what’s going to happen is his arm going to fall off? What’s the gage? It drives me up a wall.”

    I guess McCarver hasn’t read Verducci article about pitchers under 25. Joba hasn’t pitched more than 112 innings in any season. To have him jump and pitch 200 plus innings this year would be foolish. Its not just Chamberlain, Phil Hughes is on an innings count too and he will be in the same situation as Joba is next year. Cashman needs to get another arm maybe someone like a Jon Garland.

  201. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Hey guys how do you think Cashman and Girardi are going to manage joba’s innings so he can be in the postseason rotation. A power pitcher with his stuff has to be in a postseason rotation.

  202. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    I’ll ammend that. NYY has the better option at third now, until Hairston goes hitless for 25 at bats or makes two errors to cost a game. At that time, the complaints will start again. The same ones that are whining about not having Duncan recalled will whine when he strikes out 3 out of every 5 at bats and plods his wayt around right field.

  203. ZZ Sabathia August 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I think it’s an odd coincidence that the Yanks are replacing Wang in the rotation with a guy who pitches exactly like CMW did in April (thigh-high ‘sinkers’ @91 mph).

    I’m guessing nobody on Toronto is begging out of the lineup today.

  204. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.

    ****

    People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.

  205. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    “Shelley’s case i think it maybe getting to him a lil bit that he hasn’t been called up and given a shot yet when all he’s done is carried the AAA team on his back all year and lead the international league in homers and rbis….”

    Yet this is who you want to PH? This isn’t AAA or AAAA, he’ll likely sit for a long span, and doesn’t have the numbers that show he’ll survive in that role. Jorge Vazquez I understand, Shelley no, I’m sorry his numbers don’t reflect that he will succeed in that role. And we saw this last yr. too.

  206. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Cashman has already said all the rules are out the window in a postseason scenario. Joba will be the 3rd or 4th starter in the postseason so its not like he will go 3 times in a series like CC or AJ.

  207. bru August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    But, beter to be spectacularly wrong then almost right

    the line of the year.

  208. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.

    Could we have a .250 hitter and bronze glove winner?

  209. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    With Matsui, Hairston, Duncan, Posada and Swisher on the bench there would only be 8 guys in the lineup. Unless you are talking about the world series and the pitcher is hitting.

    The only time Duncan would pinch hit is in the following situations:

    1. Hinske started the game and the opposition brings in a tough lefty – Duncan pinch hits and plays RF.

    2. Molina starts the game and the opposition brings in a lefty – Duncan pinch hits.

    Would you pinch hit him for anyone else on the roster? Maybe Hairston.

    Otherwise Duncan gets a start here and there when a tough lefty is on the mound and Swisher or Damon needs a day off.

    It’s not a lot of playing time but who else should the Yankees bring up? I’ve yet to see any valid alternatives.

  210. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “A righthanded power stick is needed though, and has been needed since Sheffield left”

    Yes. That guy doesn’t have to be that good, just good enough to give the other manager some second thoughts about leaving in the LHP or bringing a LHP into the game, and give the Yanks a response.

  211. Ramey - Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL August 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.”

    Don’t forget win 20+ games, have a sub 2 era and throw shutouts every other day

  212. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    Once again, nobody’s saying that Ransom should be with the yankees, because, he is not the best option the Yankees have now. Cost and lost talent wise for what it would cost the Yanks for a 10 week replacement for Rodriguez at the start of the season, Ransom was the best option. Ransom is gone. NYY has that better option now.

    ****

    People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.

    ————————————————————

    The option NYY was looking at was getting Adrian Beltre from Seattle for Jackson and a young pitcher and picking up a multi-million dollar contract….all for 10 weeks. Ironic that Beltre went down for hip surgery early this spring and just started playing again this week.

  213. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    “Otherwise Duncan gets a start here and there when a tough lefty is on the mound and Swisher or Damon needs a day off.”

    Now he’s gonna start? The Red Sox won’t start his brother and he’s better than him.

  214. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Jerkface
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
    People seem to believe that every player on the 25 man roster should be a 300 hitter and gold glove winner.

    Could we have a .250 hitter and bronze glove winner?

    ***

    I didn’t realize he was hitting only .190. Yipes.

    I wish Cody the best. I hope he is very happy with the Mets

  215. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Ænima
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
    I take it Tim McCarver is not a big believer in the Verducci Effect, even though it has been proven time and time again.

    Actually it hasn’t been proven and it isn’t Verducci who came up with the concept of limiting innings. There are discussions about how many innings but not all innings are the same nor are all pitchers.

    Does the Verducci Effect apply to a guy like Wakefield or Buehrle who don’t throw hard? How about a guy like Rivera who throws a cut fastball. Or Nolan Ryan who threw 100 MPH fastballs all day long?

    Breaking balls tax an arm more than anything else especially a splitter or a cutter. A curve is hard on the elbow while a slider is much less taxing. A pitcher who overthrows also will more likely have issues.

    Pitch counts matter. Rest intervals matter. The pitches thrown matter. The Yankees have millions of dollars invested in Joba and I’m sure they have more facts and data to support their actions than we do here on Lohud’s board. Joba will pitch the rest of the season and into the playoffs this year. It may not be the Yankees ideal, but it will happen.

  216. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Honestly with the amount of Swisher hate on this blog I’m surprised more people aren’t all for bringing Duncan up. I was against it when the Yanks needed a CF but Melky has been amazing and Hairston can fill in at CF without losing a ton of defense.

    But back to my point, if you bring Duncan up that only cuts in to Swisher’s play time. When Swisher hits another slump you plug Duncan or Hinske in depending on the pitcher. Or if Damon needs a day, shift Swish to LF and then go with Hinske or Dunc.

    Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.

  217. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Brandon-

    Please tell us. What did Shelly Duncan ever do to you to inspire such venom???

  218. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Realistically, what is the maximum number of starts Joba would make in the entire postseason?

    Before you answer, assume that we don’t clinch until the last game of the season and Girardi can’t align the rotation as he’d want to.

    Assume also that the ALCS and WS both go to 7 games.

    I think it’s about 5 or 6 starts at the most, no?

  219. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Wave good point about the 10 days. Maybe the Yanks hang on to 13 pitchers for awhile?

    Brandon I’m tired of your nonsense, PEACE im outta here

  220. bru August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    miggs

    They sold 100+ tickets in the last 24 hours. What makesyou think those last 800 tickets willlast abother 24 hours?

    according to your math they will last 8 days.

  221. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    GB7-

    My memory may be fuzzy, but weren’t a lot of people screaming for the Beltre move?

  222. ZZ Sabathia August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    I think the kicker would be if Cody goes out swinging like Brett Tomko.

  223. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    If NYY was going to pinch hit for Molina, why in the world would they use Duncan or any other player than Posada. Why burn two players over one. Posada would then have to catch and you have lost another bat.

  224. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    “Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.”

    Did you see Damon last night? we don’t need Pena? Pena could be in LF or RF, Hairston could be in LF or RF or CF, Melky could be in CF/RF/LF. I’d rather shore up the defense b/c that’s a bigger need than the offense.

  225. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Patrick-

    Duncan’s no great defensive OF but with Gardner out Duncan’s primary use would have been to start in LF and give Damon a day off when a left hander is pitching. That’s really about it.

    Duncan should have been left up and Ransom DFA’d before, but since the Yanks didn’t do that, with the 10 day rule and Gardner not being out that long (I hope), there’s really not that much opportunity for Shelley. I think he missed his chance.

  226. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    My objection is not that Ransom didn’t “earn” his DFA. My objection has always been twofold: The degree to which people seem to blame him for all that is wrong with this team and the way he is verbally attacked by some people here as if he’s somehow less than human because he wasn’t as good at his job as he might have been.

  227. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    “Brandon-

    Please tell us. What did Shelly Duncan ever do to you to inspire such venom???”

    He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?

  228. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Brandon, get a grip. Pena’s just started playing in the OF, they aren’t going to put him out there in the bigs this year.

  229. Stateman52 August 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Ransom deserved better, while he couldn’t field, hit or run well, he had the intangibles that only real winners have.

  230. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    GB7-

    My memory may be fuzzy, but weren’t a lot of people screaming for the Beltre move?

    ————————————————————

    Those were the rumors, but, not at that cost. I don’t know just how serious NYY was about acquiring him.

  231. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    A report out of Boston says the Socks sent down OF Josh Reddick and brought up LHP Billy Traber.
    That’s right ….. thee Billy Traber.
    Thank Tampa Bay for that move. Boston used their entire relief staff last night.

  232. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    “Brandon, get a grip. Pena’s just started playing in the OF, they aren’t going to put him out there in the bigs this year.”

    I bet he’ll play a bit of RF or LF, if Damon is he sure can. Pena is good at tracking fly balls.

  233. Matt August 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Nobody expects every player on the roster to be a .300/20 HR hitter. We expect them, however, to be at least serviceable.

    According to Fan Graphs, Cody Ransom was worth

    NEGATIVE $2.7 million this season. In other words, he was so bad, he should be paying the Yankees to let him play rather than the other way around.

    I made a post earlier showing this, but if you extrapolate his number of PA a bit more, he is having a worse season even than TONY WOMACK did back in 2005.

    They have players who can fill his role, and fill it better than he does. Carrying both him and Hairston on the roster is a waste of a roster spot that could be put to use in far better fashion by calling someone else up from AAA.

  234. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Rayvt, please see link:

    http://www.baseballprospectus......cci+effect

    your argument lacks cogency

    last time I checked, Mo and Wakefield are not under 25

  235. Ramey - Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL August 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Brandon-

    Aren’t you the same person who wanted the Yankees to get Jody Gerut in the off-season? And has an unquestionable man-crush on a terrible pitcher in Jonathan Sanchez?

  236. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    “Pena is good at tracking fly balls.”

    How do you (or I) know?

  237. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Sometimes Posada DH’s when Molina catches. Then Duncan could play a role in that situation.

  238. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Just my opinion of course, however I do believe that if the Yanks are going to win their 27th Championship this October, Joba Chamberlain will need to be in the rotation right behind AJ Burnett……

  239. E-gawa August 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “Cashman has already said all the rules are out the window in a postseason scenario. Joba will be the 3rd or 4th starter in the postseason so its not like he will go 3 times in a series like CC or AJ.”

    That’s not likely if he’s in the pen during september. They’d have to re-stretch him out or keep him as a long relief guy to have him start in the postseason. I tend to agree with what McCarver said especially with the way he’s been pitching lately but it’s not happening. Just remember, they put off Wangs rehab assignment to further baby this guy which may or may not have led to Wangs shoulder injury.

  240. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    “Jody Gerut in the off-season? And has an unquestionable man-crush on a terrible pitcher in Jonathan Sanchez?”

    You checked Jonathan Sanchez’s last few starts? you sure you wanna go there cowboy? Jody Gerut to me was a 5th OF I think he was FA and then got hurt. Now what?

  241. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.

    Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.

    Sad news Pete :(

  242. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Posada DH’d 5 times this year. Three times while NYY had three catchers up.

  243. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    The Verducci effect has only been studied for pitchers 25 and younger.

    What I would be interested in is studying older pitchers and seeing how cumilative years of multiple innings pitched affects them….

    Might give us an insight into Sabathia this year….

  244. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Follow up ……

    Francona confirmed that the Sox have optioned out Josh Reddick and brought up lefthander Billy Traber, making room for him on the 40-man roster by designating infielder Gil Velazquez for assignment. Traber could be the first man out of the bullpen tonight if Brad Penny encounters early difficulty. Francona also indicated that Clay Buchholz, who is still scheduled to start on Saturday, also would be available in relief if necessary.

  245. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    ““Pena is good at tracking fly balls.”

    How do you (or I) know?”

    It’s been said since he was in AA, they do make some of them practice in the OF you know. And they like him enough to give him a few stints at CF in AAA so he must have skills at it.

  246. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.

    Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38. ”

    Sad news. Glad he was able to come to the Stadium before he passed.

  247. Someone Else August 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    “He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?”

    That still doesn’t tell us why you despise him worse than Cody Ransom.

  248. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Well I gotta go. Later ppl.

  249. CK in LA August 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    RIP Mr. Murray. Hopefully, their day at the Stadium will be a great lasting memory for his wife & son.

  250. JV August 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Rest in Peace, Mr. Murray.

  251. rufuswashere August 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Hey Yankee fans, I need some advice.

    I am going to a game Aug 28, first time at NYS. Fansnap has tickets available all over the place, but what is the best value for money? Am willing to go up to high double-digits for a seat (need 2). Is there a web site that discusses/reviews best seats at NYS? Should I wait until the last moment?

  252. Homer's Bush August 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    RIP Mr. Murray

  253. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Brandon… I’M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!!
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
    “Duncan would probably get only a few AB’s a week but this team doesn’t need Pena right now.”

    Did you see Damon last night? we don’t need Pena? Pena could be in LF or RF, Hairston could be in LF or RF or CF, Melky could be in CF/RF/LF. I’d rather shore up the defense b/c that’s a bigger need than the offense.

    ****

    Yes, I saw Damon last night. He scored 2 very valuable runs against Roy Halladay. Including a giant home run. Did you see Damon last night??

    Brandon- you get more absurd by the minute

  254. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    “That still doesn’t tell us why you despise him worse than Cody Ransom.”

    Who saids I despise him worse than Cody? I despised Cody worse than I do Shelley, I’d throw a parade for his release today if I could. Ok now I gotta go. Later Lohud. ;)

  255. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Seeing the players line up to shake hands with George and his family nearly brought this grown man to tears. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I’ve never been prouder to be a Yankee fan.

  256. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Anybody think that Brandon might actually be Graig “Puff” Nettles? Comes in, stirs up the crap and “Puff”, he’s gone.

  257. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    “It’s been said since he was in AA, they do make some of them practice in the OF you know. And they like him enough to give him a few stints at CF in AAA so he must have skills at it.”

    Maybe next year but not this year. Pena hasn’t logged enough time out there for the Yanks to be likely to trust him in the OF in a game situation. Remember Melky’s first year? And Melky had always been an OF.

    This year, Pena is an infielder.

  258. stuart a August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Mr. Murray was 38 yr old war vet. sad to read. I am glad hopefully he had some happiness at yankee Stadium a few weeks ago.

    ALS is a terrible terrible illness.

  259. Rich James August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    RIP Mr.Murray..

  260. Ramey - Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL August 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    “You checked Jonathan Sanchez’s last few starts? you sure you wanna go there cowboy? Jody Gerut to me was a 5th OF I think he was FA and then got hurt. Now what?”

    So Sanchez’s last few starts? You mean, other than his last start where he went 7 innings and the no hitter 4 weeks ago, the fact that he pitched 6 innings in a start a total of one time in 2 months? Two starts in a month don’t make a guy good. He’s a fringe 5th starter in the national League.

    Even though you have terrible hatred for Shelley Duncan for whatever reason, maybe, just maybe, if the Yankees decided he was worth getting called up again, you should, ya know, root for the guy, since he is a Yankee after all?

  261. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Hey gang, let’s be reasonable here. How can you possibly expect some of the posters here to be accepting of a role player who isn’t coming off the bench and hitting .500 each time when those same posters make frankenstein look calm when players like Arod have the audacity to have a bad night.

    I’ve come to the outstandingly profound conclusion that the twain is not going to ever meet between those of us who generally feel overall kumbaya for a player because he plays for our team – and that should be enough to bring on the love – and those who feel entitled to growl when less than perfection should rear it’s not-so-pretty head.

    I know that I feel like drop-kicking those “self-entitled, always complaining, perfection-demanding” fanzillas from here to China. I feel certain that those same people likely feel like choking the perpetual “peace, love, and happiness” out of me.

    Just the way it is.

    :)

  262. pat August 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Doreen

    Thank you for getting it.

  263. Peter Abraham August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.

    He played 197 games in the big leagues, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.

    People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.

  264. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    that really makes me sad to hear the passing of mr murray…RIP brotha

  265. gayle August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    The news about Mr Murray has put a total bummer and perspective on the day and what is really important. I am really glad that Jason Zillo and the Yankees were able to make his wish come true and he was able to spend time at the Stadium with his family seeing something he really wanted to see and something that made a difference in his life.

  266. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Ænima
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    LOL! I wasn’t saying they were under 25! I was only stating that certain types of pitchers would not fall into the category and may be in a more stringent or non-existent category.

    People aren’t sold on this either because there are so many outliers and causes that it is almost impossible to track. Guys who pitched 168 innings in a HS championship game or 100 picthes for a closer in a college world series game who later got injured because they supposedly didn’t follow Verducci is crazy. What about the ones who did follow this supposed rule and got hurt? What happened?

    I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.

    Mechanics for the players body, the arm action versus leg strength, training routines, the spinal strength, the core body strength, a sore foot, a blister, sleeping wrong on a pillow, almost anything can have an effect and cause a career ending injury. Maybe they lift weights too much without allowing the ligaments to stretch properly. The problem is no one knows. So samples of players who had similar training and overuse showed issues. The cause is hard to quantify. Looking for data that only supports a hypothesis versus data that both supports and opposes it is dangerous too.

    My coach in college use to say only thro fastballs until the weather gets warm because curves to soon caused injuries.

  267. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Through tears I can only say that I hope with my heart that meeting the Yankees brought some peace and happiness to the end of his life. May he rest in peace now.

    :(

  268. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.

    Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38

    =========================

    Oh no. How sad. :(
    May he R.I.P

  269. pat August 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Mr. Murray’s son may or may not remember the day but will always have the video memory of spending a special and happy day with his dad. Priceless. RIP.

  270. Rose August 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    RIP Mr. Murray

  271. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Wow, 38 is way too young to die. RIP George Murray………

  272. Wave Your Hat August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    trisha-

    I think if you’re a real Yankee fan, your overall kumbaya-ness ought to extend to Yankee fans who like to complain about whatever. After all, those fans are needed to complete the yin and yang with OPPC posters such as yourself.

    Embrace the contradictions. Should be easy for someone who thinks Molina should start over Posada!

    Peace, I’m just teasing you… :)

  273. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Sad news about Mr. Murray. I’m glad he and his family had an opportunity to enjoy a special time together before he died. Hopefully it will be a source of joy and peace for his wife and son to have been able to share that day.

  274. champ809 August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?

    actually again you are wrong and exaggerating Shelly’s at least a league average defender and those who “watch” him play everyday will tell you he’s actually better than league average and underrated with the glove…he ain’t winning any gold gloves but he’s a legit RF can play LF also..Shelley’s prob is the way he looks when he plays…he’s not graceful in anything he does so people ignore his #’s…he’s not a gazelle so you think he’s not good defensively but in fact he’s got average range a better arm than Swish and Damon and he knows how to play the game with effort…he doesn’t have a “classic” looking swing or finish to his swing so they say he’s got a softball swing but results are results….he’s always been a very good athlete…i think that Swish for instance is not an everyday player and would be better if you spelled him a couple days a week maybe a day off for Damon a week would keep him fresher …dh Shelley some against a lefty with 56games left you could creatively find him 100-140 abs/keep Swish,Damon and Matsui fresh and healthy for the playoffs and find that you have a productive player from the rightside and someone who can take a corner OF spot next year….crazy….imo Shelly could be as productive as Ryan Ludwick if given 500abs….hey Brandon look at Ludwicks stats his first career 100 games before the Cards gave him an opportunity last year

  275. champ809 August 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    He’s hitting .240 since the break and can’t play a lick of defense, is that enough?

    actually again you are wrong and exaggerating Shelly’s at least a league average defender and those who “watch” him play everyday will tell you he’s actually better than league average and underrated with the glove…he ain’t winning any gold gloves but he’s a legit RF can play LF also..Shelley’s prob is the way he looks when he plays…he’s not graceful in anything he does so people ignore his #’s…he’s not a gazelle so you think he’s not good defensively but in fact he’s got average range a better arm than Swish and Damon and he knows how to play the game with effort…he doesn’t have a “classic” looking swing or finish to his swing so they say he’s got a softball swing but results are results….he’s always been a very good athlete…i think that Swish for instance is not an everyday player and would be better if you spelled him a couple days a week maybe a day off for Damon a week would keep him fresher …dh Shelley some against a lefty with 56games left you could creatively find him 100-140 abs/keep Swish,Damon and Matsui fresh and healthy for the playoffs and find that you have a productive player from the rightside and someone who can take a corner OF spot next year….crazy….imo Shelly could be as productive as Ryan Ludwick if given 500abs….hey Brandon look at Ludwicks stats his first career 100 games before the Cards gave him an opportunity last year

  276. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Here’s to hoping that the spirit of Hope Week gets picked up by every team in MLB. It would certainly make the world a better place, and take some of the acrimony out of the sting of rampant cheating.

    Jason Zillo deserve immense credit.

  277. PJH August 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    “I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.

    He played 197 games in the big league, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.

    People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.”

    I understand where you are coming from, but as many have said, Cody Ransom was a joke. He had absolutely no business being on the Yankees. There are many players that deserved a chance over Cody Ransom. He could not play defense or hit for anything. I dont think he would be a backup on the Nationals, nonetheless a 200 million dollar team.

    Also, as an aside, you should not talk about class as every post you made for about a month had some reference to Angel Berroa’s age, while he was a much more capable backup than Cody Ransom.

  278. Bronx Jeers August 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: There is some sad news to report. One day of Hope Week was devoted to George Murray of South New Berlin, N.Y., an ALS victim. I posted to the blog about his day at the ballpark.
    Sadly, Mr. Murray passed away yesterday. He was 38.
    ————————————————————

    Caught the YES show that covered his outing at the stadium.

    Just a horrible and scary disease.

    Rest peacefully.

  279. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Peter Abraham
    August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Amen Peter!

  280. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Rest in Peace, George Murray.

  281. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Pete, no way, what about Jose Veras? What about A-rod?! WHAT ABOUT PAVANO!? I thought we were mean spirited cranks together in this.

  282. Bronx Born August 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    Thanks Peter. It’s hard to figure how you get your jollies when someone is down.

  283. Peter Abraham August 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    What did I ever say about Jose Veras?

    Meanwhile, Pavano had it coming. Cody Ransom never stole money.

    Note to the guy trying to post about me ripping “Geronimo Berroa.” It’s Angel Berroa, genius. And I just made of fun of how old he looked, like all of his teammates did.

    You want to make jokes, fine. People are ripping Cody like he was bad person. He’s not. Just try and show some humanity. The guy has a family and now he’s unemployed. Cut him some slack.

  284. Hova August 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    Hopefully the Yankees win one for George Murray and his family. RIP.

  285. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    I’m not going to pretend that I’m not happy Ransom is gone – I wanted him gone a long time ago. That said, insults are way out of line. He did the best he could with the ability he had. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Yankees for holding onto him.. Cody didn’t hold a gun to their head and force them to play him. He’s still a human being – I’d like to think he’d be treated like one.

  286. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Geronimo Berroa?

  287. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    RIP, Mr. Murray. Your family can be proud. you put up the good fight.

    The part that I remember while watching the tapes of that day was when they were showing the family and players in the Grand hall. It showed teixeira holding the boy’s hand and walking towards the exhibits. It also showed Mr. murray in his chair watching this.

    You have to wonder what his thoughts might have been….seeing his son being shown the sights by a big leaguer would make a father proud, but, knowing that it should be you showing him the sights had to be hard to deal with. Takes quite a person to let one emotion show and not the other.

  288. Ed August 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Woo woo woo???

  289. Someone Else August 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    “I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.”

    No, you can’t, without committing a mathematical fallacy.

    <—– mathematics degree.

    That said, check out how many innings Mr. Nolan Ryan pitched before 25 years old.

  290. Someone Else August 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    “I work with statistics all day long and guess what? I could prove to you scientifically that 1+1 = 1.”

    No, you can’t, without committing a mathematical fallacy.

    <—– mathematics degree.

    That said, check out how many innings Mr. Nolan Ryan pitched before 25 years old.

  291. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Cody Ransom will catch on with another club…..He might end up back in Scranton in a few weeks…..

  292. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Geronimo Berroa was a pretty good hitter. Lots of pop for a smallish dude.

  293. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    “I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Cody Ransom when he gets released is really despicable. The guy did what they asked as well as he could. So fine, they released him. No reason to insult the guy. He acted professionally the whole time he was with the team.

    He played 197 games in the big league, 197 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.

    People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.”

    Yes Pete and this is the same kid that watched his teammates die in a bus accident and labored long and hard to get his chance to play in the majors.

    That free-flowing meanspiritedness that is displayed here so often, where posters totally unload on players who may not be our top stars but are out there working their butts off to try to do a good job for the team, that stuff seriously hurts my heart. After all this time, I think you probably know that about me.

    I just don’t get the need for such nastiness.

    (I got down on Kennedy, not for doing a poor job but for being a jerk about his poor play. That differs from kicking someone who is out there trying but just isn’t making the grade.)

  294. Ænima August 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Give it a rest, already. Take it up w/Tom Verducci if you don’t like it.

  295. Jim M August 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Sorry to hear the bad news regarding Mr. Murray. I too caught that piece on YES and I remember that he has a dream to see a Yankee game with his son. I am glad he had a chance to live that dream before he passed away.

  296. ... August 5th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    “You want to make jokes, fine. People are ripping Cody like he was bad person. He’s not. Just try and show some humanity. The guy has a family and now he’s unemployed. Cut him some slack.”

    Considering the guy made a half million dollars this year.. I think he’ll live.

  297. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    “He’s still a human being – I’d like to think he’d be treated like one.”

    That statement should be burned into every one of our hearts.

  298. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Is Cody Ransom actually unemployed? Serious question.

    I thought he went through waivers now and can be sent to Scranton if no one claims him. Or outright released, I guess.

    Does he continue to get some type of paycheck during this process?

    Anyway, if you love somebody, set them free. Mr. Cashman’s love is now duly expressed.

  299. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Wave – :lol:

    Peace back at ya!

  300. Clare August 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    rufus,

    I think the very best seats for the money are behind home plate in the upper deck. The Dugout Grandstand is the top level, and cost $25.00 for season ticket holders – you can generally get them well under $100.00 on Stubhub. Great view, can see the whole field, and it really doesn’t feel too far away.

    The lower level of the upper deck behind home plate is the Terrace Suite, or Jim Beam Suite. Wider, cushioned seats, plus access to the Jim Beam Club, which has great food and a full bar (note, you can only take beer, not wine or liquor back to your seat). The face value of these seats is $65, but there also a club fee which I think brings the actual price around $120 or so. On stub hub for anwhere from $80 to several hundred. Again, great view. Nice amenities, and one of my favorites spots to watch a game.

    The main level is great, unless you’re too far back. I think the seats start around $150.00 from the box office. If you’re in a low row in the section it’s great, but I was once in the last row, under the underhang, and it felt like I was sitting in the concourse.

    I have also been able to get field level seats directly from the box office ($350.00) behind home plate, and those are awesome. Waiter service, cushioned seats, and you’re just behind the legends suite, so pretty close to the field.

    Those are the only seats I’ve tried, and they’re all great, it just depends on how much you want to pay.

  301. Peter Abraham August 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    His agent got some, taxes got a lot, etc. He didn’t take home a half million or close to it. And money is not the point. So if you lost your job, somebody should feel it’s fine to dump on you? Just try not to act like idiots, that’s all I really ask. The Yankees decided to put him on the team, was he supposed to refuse to play?

  302. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Boston did not send Josh Reddick down to AAA to make room for Billy Traber. They DFA’d infielder Gil Velazquez, instead.

  303. Zach in Port Jeff August 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Does the weather report really show a chance of rain for tomorrow evening?

    Really?

    Seriously…whenever I have tickets.

  304. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Not an especially good day for Ryan Freel or BJ Ryan, either. They were DFA’d, too.

  305. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Pete, there is a lot of schizophrenia that goes on here but maybe that’s the nature of sports and fandom. Do you remember the number of times the name “Mitre” was mentioned here in terms of the player people wanted brought up? Do you see who has become the goat du jour?

    It always reminds me of the romans throwing the christians to lions. Or something. It certainly isn’t a pretty way to root for your team.

  306. So what you are saying August 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    if we go back to the day ANGEL Berroa was waived and people were ripping him we will find a post by Pete Abe saying to respect the guy?

  307. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.

  308. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    If we hadn’t picked up Hairston, Freel would’ve been a nice addition. He’s not great by any means, as injuries have pretty much hampered his ability to get to that “next level”, but he plays hard every day, and has a decent bit of speed, and HAS shown an ability to get on base in the past when given consistent chances. Not a starter by any means (which he still thinks he is, which may be why he was DFA’d), but would’ve been a good bench addition.

  309. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    TylerKepner Yankees sign Russ Ortiz for depth in the minors.

  310. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    “The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.”

    :D

    Would that be the silver lining in that cloud?

  311. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    I really doubt Mr. Ransom is checking the blogs looking for something to cry about. In the grand scheme of things are a few jeers on a website that big of a deal? Yeah it should be kept civil but the holier than thou stuff is a little played out.

  312. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    “UPDATE, 3:45 p.m.: Ransom DFA’d.”

    Can there now be justice for Ramiro Pena? ;)

  313. benfica356 August 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    the rain will miss the bronx tommorow.

  314. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
    August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    “The Romans mat have throw the Christians to the lions, but, they got a great plaque to put on Caesar’s palace wall from PETA for their good treatment and feeding of animals.”

    Would that be the silver lining in that cloud?

    ————————————————————

    I realize that was pretty sick, but, sadly, it’s the truth.

  315. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Calling Andy Pettitte selfish for gutting out starts for the team last season could also be called an unpretty way to root for your team, no?

    Seriously, there is some gray area between the black and white extremes of writing paens to the beautiful soul that is Cody Ransom and metaphorically dancing on his Yankee baseball grave.

    Nice guy, thanks for the effort, but he wasn’t DFA’d because Cashman woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. The GM is supposed to attempt to improve the product put on the field and the bench as much as possible. Thanks from those of us who think today’s move was a step in that direction.

  316. Bronx Born August 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    You have to give the Yankees credit for Hope Week and giving Mr. Murray and his family a day of wonderful memories. I realize other sports teams do charitable acts but I have never seen a team connect with the community the way the Yankees do. It’s a class act and should be commended. My best wishes to the Murray family.

  317. stuart a August 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Ransom should go to SWB and then come up in Sept. ransom is 32 and not going to break the bank. most ballplayers do not make a lot of money, there are hundreds and hundreds of ransom’s just getting by.

    i just thought he did not deserve to be on the 25, no ill will. i am sure he is a decent guy…..it is girardi and cashmans fault for not having the best 25 on the roster……

  318. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Mitre vs. Somebody

    :cry:

  319. Bronx Jeers August 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Cody Ransom was the BEST vertical leaper the Yankees had.

    Oddly, Berroa was their best shot putter.

  320. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Someone Else
    August 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    I’m an Electrical Engineer, Nuclear minor and a degree in Mathematics.

    Yes I can! Obviously it is wrong but statistically it is true. You are just proving my point. I can also give you equations in excel that will give you an incorrect answer. The problem is never in the result, but in the cause or assumption up front.

    The Verducci code, LOL, makes an assumption that all pre-25 yr olds are equal and takes statistical results to prove the opinion is indeed valid. That would be laughed out of any realm of logic except fan logic.

    David Clyde age 23 pitched 93 innings in 1973. He pitched 117 in 1974 at age of 24. He blew his arm out and was out of ML baseball till 1978. How does he fit the mold?????

    Come on guru?

    Don Sutton pitched 225.2 innings in his 1st year in the majors at the age of 21. 232 at 22. 207 at 23. 293 at 24. What happened? Did his arm fall off? He pitched 5282 innings in 23 seasons for an average of 229 innings a season.

    Steve Carlton went from 52 innings at age 21 to 193 innings at 22. He went 13 straight seasons pitching more than 230 innings straight with a high of 346 innings at age 27.

    Whitey Ford pitched 207 innings at age 24 after not pitching in MLB for 2 years. He pitched 14 successive seasons of over 200 innings except 1 year when he pitched 192 (1960).

    Jim Kaat went from 50 innings at age 21 to 200 innings the next year. He pitched 9 out of the next 10 years at over 200 innings with 1 yr being 178 innings. 15 out of 17 yrs of over 200 innings with the other year being 113 innings in 1972. Two years he went over 300 innings. Why didn’t he fall apart.

  321. MG August 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    my only issue is the harping on Ransom as the cause of every loss for the season. To read a game log where there are hundreds of negative comments about him just makes no sense to me at all. He was the 25th guy on the roster and played once a week. I doubt that a single LoHud reader thinks that Ransom got a raw deal in being released but he had his chance in April and didn’t do the job, then got hurt-he was a stop gap measure when he came back from the DL because the Yankees wanted Pena at Scranton playing every day. That’s the beginning and the end of it, isn’t there anything else that is more interesting to post than just venting about him?

  322. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    anecdotal evidence is the very worst kind

  323. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    The Verducci Effect is crap for fans and ESPN to use to get discussions. Also, there is even discord on whether it applies to minor league games or not as well. Or Az Fall league.

  324. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    “I really doubt Mr. Ransom is checking the blogs looking for something to cry about. In the grand scheme of things are a few jeers on a website that big of a deal? Yeah it should be kept civil but the holier than thou stuff is a little played out.”

    Scott Brosius’s dad posted on the NY Times forum under a different name when Scott was on the team. You never know who posts on a forum or reads the forum, especially on such a wildly popular forum as the lohud forum.

    I would say err on the side of caution. There is a wide gap between making note that the lions may be hungry and actually throwing them human sacrifices to eat.

    ;)

    There are people who have schmuckness written all over them. I think those are the ones Pete’s comments are probably meant to target.

  325. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    As far as I’ve read today, there’s no one here who really disagrees with the Yankees’ decision to DFA Cody Ransom. No one has said he should have kept his position because of his life circumstances.

    From the way I read it, there are the people who just want to wish him well, acknowledge he did the best he could (whether or not that was good enough is a different discussion), and to stay away from treating the guy like so much dirt on the field.

    No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.

    I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.

  326. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Sure, MG, but when a New York Yankee is DFA’d, attention must be paid. ;)

    And, devil’s advocate, isn’t there anything more interesting to post than venting about Ransom comments?

    Anyway, I haven’t seen every comment on this subject today, so of course I concede that some and perhaps even many of the comments were rude or over the top. But the sun will still come up tomorrow for Cody Ransom and — well, yeah.

  327. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    “Mitre vs. Somebody”

    AWWWW, you’re just sad that Evan Longloria walks this earth. HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

    You’re not even good at trolling!

    :)

  328. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    “No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.

    I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.”

    Amen.

  329. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    YKW is worse at trolling than Cody Ransom was at playing third base for the Yankees.

    That’s a pretty significant degree of bad.

  330. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    For those interested- the Yankees have now had 41 different players on the 25 man roster during this season

  331. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    GO YANKEES!!!

    GO RAYS!!!

    GO SERGIO MITRE!!!

    You wanted him. Now support him, dammit!

  332. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Cody Ransom batted .302 last year with 4 HR in 43 at bats and 33 games. He did his job. This year he started in a slump because he was exposed by trying to fill an everyday position and then he got hurt. IMO, if Pena were played as much as Cody he would have failed too. That is why Hairston is on the team! He is much better than both of them. I hope Cody goes to the Mets!

  333. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Holier than thou, how?
    Surrendered…executed anyhow
    Scrawl dissolved, cigar box on the floor…

  334. Wishing For Nautical Nonsense August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    1 + 1 = 3

    how, you ask?

    1 shot of tequila + 1 shot of bourbon = 3 shots of tequila

    in essence, mixing alcohols creates an exponentially more powerful impact than one alcohol on its own

    (whether this is apocryphal or not, I don’t know. Just something I heard while in college.)

  335. chr1zisnyy August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    russ ortiz?

  336. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Go Yanks! Pitch Great Sergio! Beat the RSox Rays!

  337. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Ray,

    The “Verducci Effect” has been great for one person…..Tom Verducci.

    Its given him a calling card and people quote it as if a pitcher throws one inning over what Verducci said he should throw, his arm will fall off on the mound.

    The issue with all of these pitching theories is, they are exactly that…..theories.

    For every David Clyde, there is Jim Kaat.

    For every Mark Prior, there is Greg Maddox or John Smoltz.

    Its very, very hard to ascribe a single, time honored theory of developing pitchers. Everybody’s delivery is different, as well as their arm angles and bodies.

    Its why, one size, fits all pitching theories aren’t worth the paper they are printed on.

    They are great talking points and some of the issues are valid. However, to call it the “bible of developing pitchers”, as some have, is not necessarily accurate.

  338. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    How many games to players need to play at the pro’s to be eligible for the MLB pension plan? Are there different levels?

  339. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    1+1 = 10

  340. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Doreen, Well stated…….

  341. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    I didn’t read through everything written so maybe something was THAT mean, but in general who really cares, everyone should lighten up. It is holier than thou, no one is commenting on the man, its Cody Ransom the baseball player, I’m sorry he is a public figure and that comes with the territory. It shouldn’t get personal but yeah I am happy the asset known as Cody Ransom to use Cashspeak is gone. Also, lets talk about baseball.

  342. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    i thought the verducci effect was me disliking selena roberts the more verducci yacked about her.

    who cares what verducci says about pitching?

    he doesn’t pitch.

    he has no scientific credentials.

    he doesn’t coach or train pitchers.

  343. Jobamania August 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    oh god
    russ ortiz?
    lets hope he never sees the light of day on the yankees

  344. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    SJ44
    August 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Amen SJ44! It is biased data. Maybe it is 80% right. Maybe it is only 20%. I have a stopped clock that is right twice a day!

  345. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
    August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    “No one was writing homages to the great Cody Ransom. Just taking exception with the utter nastiness that goes on here at times by some people.

    I take exception to the phrase “holier than thou.” I think it’s not too much to ask to keep the nastiness to a minimum.”

    “Amen”.

    ————————————————————

    Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?

    LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.

  346. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    The mythical attraction of “the other” goes far beyond baseball and other sports, but it’s especially prevelant there.

    As has been pointed out here many times before, the backup QB (or backup catcher, if you will) is often very popular — until he has to play more that a few games.

    Mitre was “the other” and now he’s here and we can see him much more clearly.

    But Mitre vs ‘Can I Buy Another Vowel?’ is a matchup we can win.

  347. Wishing For Nautical Nonsense August 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Rayvt + reading his humorless posts = Zzzzzzzzzzzz

  348. Jobamania August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    lol those blue jay ump fans are there once again? hahahaah

  349. Observer283 August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    I see your point about variances SJ. Here’s my issue as relates to Jobe: He has a history of arm issues. That’s one of the reasons why someone with his stuff fell so far. He had arm issues last year.

    He certainly fits the profile of a guy who you should be careful with.

  350. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    randy l.
    August 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Agreed Randy!

  351. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    As far as the verducci thing, I agree setting a firm, arbitrary, universal mark for building up innings doesn’t make much sense, but in principle I agree with it. We should be careful and we should be intelligent with young talent. There has to be some kind of leash for guys like Joba.

  352. Cash is King August 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    “i thought the verducci effect was me disliking selena roberts the more verducci yacked about her.

    who cares what verducci says about pitching?

    he doesn’t pitch.

    he has no scientific credentials.

    he doesn’t coach or train pitchers.”

    Finally a post of yours I can completely agree with.

  353. Observer283 August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    I meant to write “Joba” and “fell so far in the draft.”

  354. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Wishing For Nautical Nonsense
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Glad I could help you with your sleep apnea! LOL!

  355. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    “Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?

    LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.”

    :lol:

    You are really on a roll tonight! I was actually going to make comment about extending the christian metaphor but just didn’t have the energy!

    :D

  356. Cash is King August 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    “I see your point about variances SJ. Here’s my issue as relates to Jobe: He has a history of arm issues. That’s one of the reasons why someone with his stuff fell so far. He had arm issues last year.

    He certainly fits the profile of a guy who you should be careful with.”

    Joba fell in the draft because of a knee injury not an arm issue.

  357. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Here’s something that should bring universal joy. I’m leaving to get dinner. You will have some intermittent peace!

    Be back. (Sorry, good things sometimes do end!)

    :)

  358. Cash is King August 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Also, there were concerns about Joba’s weight when he came out of Nebraska.

  359. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Let’s somehow win tonight. Go Yankees

  360. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Lets Go Yankees!

  361. Wishing For Nautical Nonsense August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    I’d love to see a list of the clientele for Cody Ransom’s agent.

  362. CB August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    “anecdotal evidence is the very worst kind”

    I don’t know about that.

    The good part of anecdotal evidence is that it’s generally transparent. Regardless of what the person marshalling that evidence says – it’s clear that it’s only an anecdote. That let’s anyone take it for what it’s worth.

    The “worst” evidence is often statistical analysis of non-experimental data that isn’t rigorously performed and isn’t well documented.

    It’s that kind of evidence that often leads people from a state of uncertainty to a state of believing something wrong. You wind up accepting a conclusion that is false because of the limitations of the data, the lack of making assumptions explicit and the use of the wrong methods of analysis.

    But the conclusions are based on “stats” so it gives them a level of authority that they really shouldn’t have. A level of false authority that anecdotal evidence rarely reaches.

    Lots and lots of that kind of “evidence” in baseball analyses.

  363. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    trisha – OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins!
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    “Does saying “Amen” mean that you are “holier than me”?

    LMAO. Couldn’t pass that up.”

    You are really on a roll tonight! I was actually going to make comment about extending the christian metaphor but just didn’t have the energy!

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, the lions vs Christians had pretty well run it’s course.

    Now, for a long conversation, we could all talk about how well the Christians would do vs the Detroit Lions. I’ll take the Christians over the Detroiters and give 40 points.

  364. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    7:07 start — wow the convenience stores in canada have strange names.

  365. Clare August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    The biggest effect of the Verducci rule is on the blame game. No one knows whether or not Joba will stay healthy and effective for the next couple of years. However, if the team does not follow the Verducci rule, and he gets injured, people will blame Girardi and Cashman. If they follow the rule, and he gets injured, oh well, that’s pitching.

    IMO, they have carefully looked at the schedule, and I bet they use every off day to get Joba some more rest. I’m sure when they reconfigured the rotation at the All Star break they were planning for this week’s move to give Joba a couple of extra days. However, when it comes to the playoffs, Joba will be pitching, and the hell with Verducci.

  366. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Observer,

    Agreed re: Joba. You can do that and still use him accordingly.

    For example, in his last start, he was effortless. He had more taxing starts in some of his 4 inning debacles than he did pitching 8 innings.

    I think its all about taking it from start to start, encouraging him to be honest (a HUGE problem for players) when it comes to being sore, tired, etc, and go from there.

    I’m not saying throw caution to the wind with Joba or any pitcher.

    I am saying that if the kid is healthy, feeling strong, and his stuff isn’t being negatively affected, you keep him in the rotation and not get caught up in nebulous theory.

  367. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    I personally believe the reson we have so many arm injuries for pitchers these days is that they over train certain muscle groups and strain the connecting ligaments. Steroids & HGH exacerbate issue of bulking up. Couple that with the desire to win at every level from Little League on up and the arms are traumatized by the time they get to the majors.

  368. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Aaron Hill was on Kim Jones’ “Innerview” on the pre-game. Kim asked him if he could spell his starting pitcher’s name. He just laughed. Then he said, he’d never be able to spell it, and not only that, but they call him something different every day! Pretty funny stuff. :)

  369. djsunyc August 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    what i love about the bluejays:

    the 2 umpire fans behind the plate and the beautiful women serving the rich seats…

  370. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    yay the fake umps are here!

  371. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Did anyone catch the guy on david letterman last night who makes fun of guys batting stances..He was friggen hysterical..

  372. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    CB- good post. I can dig that, incomplete or limited statistical evidence is more dangerous because it gives people the “stats” label and they stop questioning it. Makes sense to me. What I was getting at was all the stories that you hear when you try to make an argument: In my day we pitched complete games back to back and didn’t break a sweat….blah blah blah that kind of thing is what I dislike. Or the clutch stories, don’t even get me started

  373. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    i’m very interested in see how sergio mitre handles the pressure tonight.

    he knows he has to do well or else.

    sometimes this snaps a guy into bringing his A game.

    for some strange reason, i’m expecting him to do well.

  374. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    A relatively soft tossing lefty, NYY should be able to get to him. Need to do it fast, though.

  375. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    CB
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    The “worst” evidence is often statistical analysis of non-experimental data that isn’t rigorously performed and isn’t well documented.
    ———————————
    Absolutely!!!!!!!

  376. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.

  377. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    is it just me or does something just not look right with that guys arm action…its so slingy and odd looking…looks injury prone lol

  378. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Niese out for season:

    mlbCozMets on Niese – MRI revealed complete tear of the right upper hamstring tendon – out for the remainder of the season.

  379. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I’m calling it now.. Mitre will pitch a No No tonight..LOL

  380. Joe from Long Island August 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Just got home from work and assorted errands, and checked the blog – and saw the news about Mr. Murray.

    My stepson’s science teacher in elementary school, Mr. Chris Pendergas, has been diagnosed with ALS (I refuse to refer to it as Lou Gehrig’s Disease – Lou ‘s name should not be associated with such a tragic disease) and is very active in ALS fundraising in our local LI community. Also, I happened to be at the Stadium on the day that Mr. Murray was celebrated.

    Being taken at such a young age is a tragedy beyond words. The Yankees, for all their flaws, should be congratulated for raising awareness here, and making Mr. Murray and his family happy for one day.

    Makes all our games seem so trivial – and so important for the joy they can give. We should always relish the joy.

  381. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Rzsyzinsinnmnski was just identified as being from “the University of Califoria”. That is true, to an extent, but such an identification suggests that he was a Cal Bear from Berkeley, while ,y own research indicates that he pitched for Cal Riverside.

    I have nothing against the Highlanders — our own Anthony Clagget is one as well — but a Highlander is not the same as a Golden Bear.

  382. Rayvt August 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.

    I like the way you state things!! LOL!

  383. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Wow, thats a pretty damn good polish last name going on there.

  384. NYY626 - Andy is my homeboy August 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Did anyone catch the guy on david letterman last night who makes fun of guys batting stances..He was friggen hysterical..
    ________________________________________________________________
    I’ve seen that on youtube. I laughed so hard at that guy. He’s great

  385. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Good to see you michelle b. of oakland — nice convenience store joke!

  386. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Hmm.. a couple of those looked close to strikes.

  387. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    i’d rather have a Stanford Cardinal Pitcher over a Cal golden bear anyday!

  388. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Mitre is working quick. Keeping everything down. Could be a solid day for him.

  389. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    if all you knew about mitre was the first 2 batters tonight..you’d say hes a beast!

  390. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Mitre :shock:

  391. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    no one pays any attention to me…lol, but if they did they would see i can make a funny every so often. :-)

  392. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Such sad news about Mr. Murray. At least he got to have a lot of enjoyment before the end.

  393. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Rayvt
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    Defense better be really on it, tonight. Mitre’s not going to miss very many bats.

    I like the way you state things!! LOL!

    ————————————————————

    And as I type that, Mitre strikes out the first two, and one swinging.

  394. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    well there went the no hitter…

  395. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Tex missed a ball? :shocked: Kidding.

  396. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    “Niese out for season:
    mlbCozMets on Niese – MRI revealed complete tear of the right upper hamstring tendon – out for the remainder of the season.’

    I think the Mets are cursed with injuries.

  397. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    michelle, I paid attention to that Stanfurd comment! :mad:

    But if that pitcher is named Mike Mussina, I might agree. Otherwise…

  398. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Cano should have had that one

  399. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    2-out danger – I HATE that

  400. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Carpet hits…Sinkerball pitcher on the rug….Tough going

  401. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    I meant Moose!

  402. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    About 2 minutes ago, I said, “Who is that pitching, and what did they do with Sergio Mitre.”

    Oh. Nevermind, found him.

  403. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Uh oh. Things were going so well too…

  404. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    same start to this game as last…2 quick outs then hits followed by a run

  405. Cal August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    me > Mitre

  406. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    can we get a “coaching visit to the mound” please

  407. CB August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “Carpet hits…Sinkerball pitcher on the rug….Tough going”

    Yeah. I was thinking the same thing coming into this game.

    Mitre gives up a lot of contact.

    Balls are going to get through the infield on turf.

    Nothing hit that hard. But there’s two runs up on the board after the first two outs are made.

  408. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Jesus Christ, this guy is terrible.

  409. Past a diving Jeter August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    It’s funny how everyone but the yankees knew mitre was worthless

  410. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    This is not looking good.

  411. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Igawa and his sunglasses better get ready…Cano should of had that ball but 2, 2 strike hits.

  412. Cal August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Mitre > Chien Ming

  413. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Oh, man. It started so well.

    It stinks if you’re making good pitches, but they’re hitting them anyway.

    Just one more out…

  414. PJH August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Mitre is terrible. You cant keep running him out there. They should sign him as the batting practice pitcher. He would be a legend in that role.

  415. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    This guy is so bad… he gets 2 quick outs then 4 straight singles. Just terrible.

  416. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    I hope it isn’t Highlander vs. Highlander soon.

  417. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    mitre cant catch a break – poor guy.

  418. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    ok – can get get runs off the alphabet guy?

  419. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    That was not a great throw by Hairston. Almost threw it into right center.

  420. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    holy crap someone needs to get this guy outta there… there has GOT to be some better options than this turkey…

    waiver land here comes cash!!

  421. Jinx Jinx Jinx Jinx August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Congrats to the Blue Jays for beating the Yankees tonight!

  422. PJH August 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Nick Swisher > Mitre

  423. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Things started off well, then changed directions

  424. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    he k’d scutaro and hill with such great ease…then he got unlucky with where the hits were going…except for overbay, none of those balls were hit remotely hard..

  425. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    “It stinks if you’re making good pitches, but they’re hitting them anyway.”

    He’s not making good pitches, though. Practically everything is up in the zone, and it’s getting hammered. He is what he is, and what he is, is a AAA pitcher.

  426. tishbi August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Rios and Wells would probably be able to hit the Yankees when they’re in thier high 80′s, and in wheelchairs.

  427. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Other than that, a strong first inning for Mitre.

  428. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Get Claggett ready and get Mitre out of there.

    If Claggett is only going to be here for a day, you might as well get 6 or 7 innings out of him.

    The Yankees just can’t keep running a guy out there who puts the team in multi-run holes by the second inning of every start.

    The #5 starter is going to have to pitch at least 10 more times this year. You can’t concede 10 losses in a pennant race because your #5 starter is completely inept.

    The #5 starter doesn’t have to be Cy Young. He does however have to be better than this.

  429. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    lol at the guys name who Reggie hit his 300 homer off of.

  430. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    this is sad

  431. rconn23 August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Fine line between “pitches to contact” and “easily hittable”.

    Mitre fell off that line a long time ago.

  432. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Seen enough of Mitre. Obviously the Jays haven’t. Unless somebody pushes his buttons he won’t survive 3 innings.

  433. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    the first two batters, Mitre’s ball moved great and then he had to pitch from the stretch

  434. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Time for an S.O.S. call to one Moose Mussina. Give him Clemens money.

  435. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Jason Bay appears to be perfectly healthy (unfortunately)

  436. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    At this point, I’m thankful they won last night. That was a big win knowing you have Mitre going tonight.

    Hopefully, this is his last start. Even if you have to try Josh Towers next, which is no bargain, we have seen enough of Mitre to know he’s not the answer.

  437. Mark August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Who we got next in line Josh Towers or the Kei man?

  438. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Why because he hit a homer?

  439. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Arod gets fooled by fastballs right down the middle more than any other batter I have ever seen. That must be the scouting report on him.

  440. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Swisher needs to get a hit here

  441. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    “Time for an S.O.S. call to one Moose Mussina.”

    Three words: Never. Gonna. Happen.

  442. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Can we stop giving these knucklheads tv time? They are annoying after a while. We’ll have people doing stuff constantly to get on tv and behind homeplate ruining watching these games soon.

  443. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    the hits Mitre gave up were on pitches at waist level or above, he can’t get anyone out unless he pitches at the knees.

  444. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    There’s a base hit by Swishy

  445. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    I usually don’t mind the BJ’s announcers – as away announcers go they’re pretty tolerable. But I’m sick and tired already of hearing about the Yankee players contracts. We know. They have a few players with massive contracts.

    But its not like the Blue Jays’ don’t have players making decent $$’s on their team, hell some of them are big enough contracts that they seem to regret by their actions.

  446. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    uh – can we call a hit for Cano here, too?

  447. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Mitre has to get it done in the next few innings or this is going to get ugly…….Claggett is no better

  448. jon August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Mitre is such a troll.

  449. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Mitres BABIP is .400

  450. Dr.M August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Mitre just bought himself a bus ticket to Scranton after the game.

  451. tishbi August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    How did Swisher get a hit? Has he ever faced the alphabet guy? What does Swisher know that the other hitters dont know?

  452. PJH August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    Everyone stop riding Mitre so hard. He is a good guy who is trying his best for the team. Have a little class.
    I realize asking some of you to act with class is asking too much. But kicking Sergio when he cant get anyone out really despicable. The guy is doing what they ask as well as he can. So fine, he is like chum in shark infested waters. No reason to insult the guy. He is acting professionally while he is with the team.

    He has played 82 games in the big league, 82 more than any of the baseball experts ripping him.

    People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.

  453. Terry from NH August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    I can’t understand for the life of me how a team with so much payroll can employ a guy like Mitre who was suspended from baseball and was never good anyways on the Marlins, but is somehow the Yanks #5 starter?? I mean Josh Towers was IL Pitcher of the Week last week and was a servicable Toronto pitcher a couple years ago.. Can’t he at least get a shot? Sid Finch is better than this waste. lol The Yanks will never stay on a roll if they stroll this guy out every 5th day.. He never even earned this right (by default)..

  454. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    The 5th starter’s spot has killed them. When Wang was pitching he was terrible. I believe they won only one of his starts when the offense had a big come back. Hughes took over and it was ok and now if they don’t score 6 runs or more an automatic loss. It is obvious they need to try someone new.

  455. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    unfortunately the Yanks don’t have any good options in AAA ball

  456. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Mitre hasn’t been good but why would anyone thing Igawa could be better? His ERA at Scranton is 1.5 runs higher than Mitre’s at Scranton. Besides, we’ve already seen how awful he really is.

  457. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.

  458. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    I have a feeling that the vintage John Smoltz is going to show up and have the best game of the season against the Yanks.

  459. Jerkface August 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    or they could just go back to Hughes, who was a good #5

  460. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Well, Mitre was also Pitcher of the Week in the IL earlier this season. That’s not really a barometer for anything.

    As with the Red Sox, the 5th starter is a black hole for the Yankees right now. It will be interesting to see how or if they can fill it.

  461. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Haha yeah lets take Mitre out after 1 inning, that’s real smart. Claggett can go 2 maybe 3 innings max, and that’s if he pitches well. Lets blow out our bullpen the day before a 4 game set vs the Sox.

    I’d rather take a loss here than go back home with a worn out bullpen.

  462. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    # Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    I have a feeling that the vintage John Smoltz is going to show up and have the best game of the season against the Yanks.

    Wouldn’t be surprised. They act like they don’t know how to hit someone they never seen before. Not to mention someone who throws strikes.

  463. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Mitre sucks but that’s what you get when you waste 2 of your best starters in the bullpen.

    Yanks have nobody to blame but themselves for this little predicament.

  464. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Who’s going to be our #5? Put a claim in for Harang,Arroyo,Zito, and get stuck with their miserable contracts.

    Who else will pass thru waivers?

  465. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    jeezus lord, they’re sending him back out there again… heaven help us.

  466. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    MLBTRS says the Yanks have signed Russ Ortiz. Hopefully they don’t get so desperate that he sees the majors.

  467. christine August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Who was the pitcher they added?

  468. Terry from NH August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Carl
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.

    Who cares if its minor league ball, he still deserves a shot rather than Mitre. Towers was a MLB pitcher before so he has experience.

  469. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Hughes is not leaving the bullpen. That’s only been said about 50 times by the Yankees.

    At this point, they can afford to take him out of the role he is currently in and stretch him out.

    As bad as Mitre has been, Brian Bruney has been worse and isn’t ready to assume 8th inning duties. With Aceves hurting, they have nobody to replace Hughes in the pen. That’s why he isn’t a 5th starter option.

  470. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Give Moose 2 weeks and two starts at Scranton and sign him up!

  471. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Yankees desperately need a number 5 starter. Especially if they plan on shutting Joba down/putting him in the pen things could become a disaster in September. Mitre will be our #4? :(

  472. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    I got a feeling Mitre is going to settle down .

    The Yanks will come back and win this

  473. RS August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    When do waiver deals start happening?

    I’ll take Garland, Davis, Harang, or Arroyo.

  474. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Moose will win his first ring this year and be a first ballot hall of famer!

  475. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    ‘Well they dragged me here from Montoursville… I’ll be seeing you real soon…”

  476. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    The reason why Mitre is here is because 10 other things went wrong. As the saying goes you can never have enough pitching, but the Yankees went into the season with a great rotation and some contingency plans. Unfortunately is took injuries to Wang and Ian Kenedy to thin out the starters. Marte and Bruney your seventh and eighth inning guys getting hurt to need to move Hughes into the pen as well as Aceves with Edwar and Alby stinking it up out there. They will need to find a replacement, but you had Joba, Andy P, Wang, AJ and CC all penciled in the rotation with Hughes, Kennedy and Aceves starting in AAA as replacements. Mitre was a gamble low cost insurance plan as was Tonkmko and Towers. So I will always say more is better, but can’t fault Cashman going into the year. Mitre simply has no put away pitch or one that stands out, he’s mediocre across the board. Sinkers on artifical turf won’t help either.

  477. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Ortiz’ ERA in July with Houston was about 15, there is no way he pitches for the Yankees this year.

  478. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    I never said Hughes SHOULD leave the bullpen. I have said that he never should have been put there in the first place. It’s a stupid move. I said it back in May, I’ll say it now. Hughes shouldn’t be in the bullpen.

  479. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    He needs to be absolutely perfect otherwise he gets smacked around. It looks like batting practice.

  480. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    The Yankees are 18-6 against starters they have never seen before this season. They have been much better than in past years with these type of pitchers.

  481. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    2-1, Tampa Bay

  482. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    “But its not like the Blue Jays’ don’t have players making decent $$’s on their team, hell some of them are big enough contracts that they seem to regret by their actions.”

    Just show them their 256/.303/.402 hitter thats being paid $23m in 2011.

  483. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Terry from NH August 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Carl
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    Terry its Minor league baseball. Mitre was the IL Pitcher of the week before.

    Who cares if its minor league ball, he still deserves a shot rather than Mitre. Towers was a MLB pitcher before so he has experience.

    What I’m trying to say is, just because hes a Minor league pitcher of the week, it doesn’t mean anything.

  484. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    We have a 20 game winner doing crossword puzzles and collecting tractors.

    DO SOMETHING HAL.

    OR MAYBE HANK.

  485. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Praying to the Gods of GIDP…

  486. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Hey, Mitre knows how to get Scutaro out, that’s worth something. I hope Mo is paying attention. :)

  487. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    SJ – didn’t you love Mitre while he was dominating the minors?

    Time to find another starter. I don’t even like the fact that guys on sportscenter and the radio are even mentioning the K-man.

  488. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Well Penny just got smoked by Carlos Pena.

  489. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Mitre’s fastball looks like it moves more side to side than down, if he gets it over the middle of the plate it’s pretty easy to hit.

  490. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Those 2 clowns wearing ump masks behind the plate should be kicked out for disturbing the fans.

  491. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    And as sad as it is except for a short string of good starters, Brad Penny who cost a lot more money isn’t much better than Mitre.

  492. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Evan D couldn’t agree more, but the more they keep showing them on tv the more they will be around thinking they are b celebs. The entertainment value lasts about 3 pitches before it gets old.

  493. RS August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    I would feel a lot better if the Yankees could just score a run or two and get themselves in the game.

  494. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    there is no way that Mike Mussina, a 40 year old pitcher who depends on precision to be successful, comes back to baesball this or any other year. His time has past and it sounds like he’s very comfortable with it as well.

  495. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Go Mitre GO Mitre .. ITs your birthday

  496. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Perhaps the Yanks can pretend they are not counting down until tomorrow and start hitting against RZEP……

  497. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Did I “love” Mitre? No, I didn’t.

    I said they should give him a shot. They have and it isn’t working.

    Time to try somebody else.

    That’s what the 5th starters spot is likely going to be the rest of the way. A series of tryouts to see if somebody can stick for a few starts.

  498. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Up to 7 players from each team were put on the waiver list starting this past Monday.If the Steinbrenners don’t want to spend money don’t expect a decent replacement.

    Better hope that Aceves gets better, Marte comes back strong, and Bruney regains his location and confidence.

  499. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    They should give Igawa a chance what is the worst thing that can happen he gives up 10 runs? Then Towers, after him is Swisher…

  500. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    deep breaths deep breaths

  501. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    The Mitre Love Metre is going up!

  502. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    So just saw that Gabe Kapler was up for the Rays. How the heck has Kapler played 10 years in the big leagues???? He’s not very good at anything and has he ever been a starter? He is like a professional backup qb just collecting paychecks forever.

  503. CB August 5th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Mitre right now is exemplifying the idea that once a ball is hit on the ground it’s up to chance whether that ball is turned into an out or becomes a basehit. It just depends on whether it’s hit at someone or not. And the pitcher has little control over where the ball is placed.

    I never believed that with Wang. Wang had such good stuff that he was able to keep the hitter from squaring up the ball. He was able to produce systematically worse contact than an average pitcher could. The balls hit off of him in turn were easier chances to field.

    So far with Mitre it’s a completely different story. He’s nothing like Wang when Wang was right. Mitre induces ground balls but they are hit very hard on a consistent basis.

    If those hard hit ground balls happen to be directed at a spot on the field where a player is positioned it’s an out. Otherwise it’s a hit.

    Good example of that was that first hit he gave up that got past tex. That ball was hit inside of Tex’s fielding zone. And it was a grounder. But it was hit so hard that Tex had no chance.

  504. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Every inning Mitre can give us is a good thing

  505. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    figure the Yankees need once through the lineup to learn how to spell and pronounce Rzepcynski, this game isn’t over unless the Jays score another 4-5 runs early.

  506. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Do you think the Mussina Yankeeography will mention that he was two centimeters away from a perfect game?

  507. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    “We now interrupt the Mike Mussina Yankeeography to bring you a special message from Brian Cashman, live from rural Pennsylvania.”

  508. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    “I would feel a lot better if the Yankees could just score a run or two and get themselves in the game.”

    are they not currently “in” this game?

  509. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Mussina could pitch until he was 45. He throws an 85 mph fastball!

    Also, he would possibly consider pitching for a Suduko puzzle board and a vintage Ford Model T.

  510. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    SJ, you’re not getting 6-7 innings out of Claggett today. In fact, the Yankees would be lucky to get 2 innings out of him. If he’s in the game, the fielders better where masks and pads because rockets will be flying all over the place.

    The Yankees can not go with Mitre the rest of the way…..Josh Towers is not the answer. In fact, there is no answer. In a perverse way, it would almost be better to be behind the Sox if a pitcher should fall through waivers because if we are in first, the Sox will block any pitcher before he gets to us. We’ve got no depth in the minors -and what are the odds that the staff remains healthy the rest of the year? There has to be something we can do…..

  511. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    is it just me or are the jays’ announcers a tad on the dull side

  512. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Sergio Meat-tray

  513. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    CB that’s it. A good sinkerball pitcher usually gets the weaker grounders due to contact. The solid contact and hard hit grounders are going to get thru. When Wang is on his sinker is much harder and shatters bats. Mitre’s are just hit solidly and on the turf have plenty of speed to get thru. That’s why the offspeed is so important because without great movement on the sinker you need the hitter to stay offbalance and take weaker hacks.

  514. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    we need to stop crying about Mitre.. and show a little more support

  515. RS August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    “The Yankees are 18-6 against starters they have never seen before this season.”

    But a lot of those games they got shut down by the starter and then managed to win against the bullpen.

    The Braves, Nats, and Marlins alone had about 5 pitchers the Yankees couldn’t hit. They also couldn’t touch a couple rookie starters on the Orioles, and only got wins because of their terrible bullpen.

  516. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    I see those two clowns dressed as umps back there again. Are they a Toronto thing or do they follow the Yanks?

  517. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    This isn’t Sergio’s fault. He was brought in to replace Wang.

    He mistakenly heard he just had to be better than Wang’s 9.64 ERA

    I blame it all on the Mexican translator…

  518. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    I agree with Patrick that the Yankees made an incredibly short-sighted and ridiculous move by putting Phil in the pen – beyond stupid. They wanted to reward him for pitching well by keeping him up here? That’s nice, except for the fact that they didn’t consider the possibility that things would not go perfectly.

    As much as the 5 starter is a problem, the pen is worse. We’ve got two reliable relievers in Mo and Phil. Aceves is hurt and coming back down to earth; Bruney and Robertson can only be used in mop up roles, Melancon is not trustworthy and Coke (who I like, runs hot and cold and gives up a lot of HRs).

  519. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    they are a Toronto thing, saw a special on espn about em

  520. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    i’m puppy sitting a jack russel puppy.

    i’ve concluded watching the game is going to be a little more difficult than usual.

    you wouldn’t think an aluminum mac would taste good to a dog.

  521. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    The umps were a Toronto thing, but didn’t the Yankees fly them in for a game at the stadium or give them seats. And then they were in Chicago last week.

  522. Vicki August 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    The fake umps are Blue Jays ticket season holders.

  523. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    I am so tired of those fake umps. They are beyond annoying.

  524. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Molina can’t hit a lick

  525. RS August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    “are they not currently “in” this game?”

    In my mind, being down 4-2 is different from being down 2-0. Even though the run differential is the same, in the first scenario the offense has at least broken through and proven they can score a run off the pitcher.

    I’m not saying the Yankees are far behind in this game. I’d just like to see signs that they aren’t going to get shut out by a rookie.

  526. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    stealing first is so underrated.

  527. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    did kay just say that cody ransom was a POPULAR guy in the clubhouse and that he thought he found a place where he would stick…

  528. Vicki August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    ugh i meant season ticket holders.

    An article all about the fake umps:

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/0.....ht-of-fan/

  529. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    are you talking about the guy standing behind the catcher or the ones in the stands

  530. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    michelle b. in the ghetto’s of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    did kay just say that cody ransom was a POPULAR guy in the clubhouse and that he thought he found a place where he would stick…
    **********

    Kay isn’t there. That was Flash.

  531. MG August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Rzeczynski hasn’t hung a breaking ball yet, if they get a couple of them they will be back in the game. It isn’t like they aren’t getting decent wood on his pitches.

  532. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Jerry is pretty fast.

  533. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    rally time!

  534. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Way to go Yankees. Nice base running all around

  535. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    yesss lets go boyssss

  536. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Oh, Derek that could have been bad. If he gets nailed there end of inning and take bat out of Tex’s hands.

  537. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Hairston is a good baserunner…

  538. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    I think the Yankees will toss the Joba rules out the window if he is pitching lights out at his innings limit come September. If not then we need a Harang/Duke type.

  539. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    I bet that Brad Penny will only last about five 2/3.

  540. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    CB,

    Exactly. Hitters have no trouble squaring up on Mitre’s pitches. That’s a big reason why he is so ineffective.

    You can pitch to contact. However, if you do, you have to have enough movement on your pitches to keep hitters from centering the bat on your pitches.

    Claggett has started a couple of games this year for Scranton and also has pitched 3-4 innings in several outings.

    No reason why he can’t go 4 tonight if needed. He was being used as a quasi-long man for Scranton recently.

  541. RS August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Woohoo…this is looking like a Mitre inning. Groundballs finding holes through the infield.

  542. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Oh, my bad, thought it was too outs, I’m all worked up about the stupid umps

  543. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Goob job by Damon. Good thing Jeter was safe at 3rd…

  544. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Nice slide Damon!

  545. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Damon taking him out!!!

  546. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    phew nice hussle

  547. RS August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Not sure if he was safe, but I’ll take it.

  548. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    the speedy Texiera

  549. Neil August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Tie game. Take Mitre out now while we still can.

  550. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    sorry i meant flash, i’m so used to writing kay when dumb things are said.

  551. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    solid baserunning boys

  552. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    I Love Tex he always runs hard like Jeter…

  553. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Cody Ransom might be a nice guy, but he can’t play ball…

  554. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Tex. He’s a hustler baby! :lol:

  555. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Derek’s baserunning got the Yanks a run here, it’s the little things that make a difference. He not only got Ovebay to cut off the throw, then he beat it to set up the second run.

  556. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    If they decide not to being back Damon, they have to find someone to replace him who plays just as hard, and is as good as doing things like break up the DP. That RBI will go to Tex, but that’s a DP if Damon doesn’t slide hard. Great job by Damon.

  557. Neil August 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    A-Rod with some quality at-bats.

  558. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    This dude loves his curveball

  559. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Alex looks at too many called 3rd strikes………….

  560. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    cmon Mitre, now’s your chance

  561. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Can Mitre keep this right where it is?

  562. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Someone tell Arod that there’s only one K in Rzeczynski. :mad:

  563. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Sergio does not throw a heavy ball….Also he has to have real good control in hitting the outside corners…

  564. RS August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    One thing I wish the Yankees did more often is hit the ball to the opposite field. Jeter, Arod, and Cano are good at it, but there’s still a lot of pull hitters in this lineup (Damon, Posada, Matsui, Tex).

    The reason I mention it is because we’ve seen Mitre get killed alot by hitters flaring an outside pitch to the opposite field. With sinkerballs, that’s a recipe for success because simply pulling the pitch often results in a ground out. Tex and Damon got lucky because their ground balls happened to find holes, but those could very well have been DP balls.

  565. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    one of the things that makes watching this team enjoyable is that they play hard just about every night. They are really underrated when it comes to baserunning and ability to do the right thing in situations that require it. Look at Hairston knowing he was dead at second and making Hill throw him out at first, that is a really big play right now.

  566. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Arod and Posada are the worst when it comes to not knowing a pitcher and getting caught thinking too much.

  567. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    4-1 Tampa

  568. RS August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    4-1 Rays

  569. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    “randy l.
    August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
    i’m puppy sitting a jack russel puppy.”

    don’t give GB any tips.
    I don’t want to see his grandkids snacking on Alpo, chewing slippers, and fetching sticks.

  570. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    They tie the game and now he goes 3-0. Unreal…

  571. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Donnie, agree completely. I think the Yankees should offer Damon a one year deal no matter what. They need to OFers in the offseason. Matsui has to go as he is a full time DH. Johnny is one of their best clutch hitters, his swing is perfect for the stadium. He can’t play OF everyday anymore, but shifting him and out of DH and LF. Then you make a run at Carl Crawford the next year who is the only player off the top of my head who could bring the same type of talent. Damon and then target Holliday but at your price, otherwise try to make a deal or take a veteran.

    My lips to gods ears, Carl 2 run bomb

  572. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Carl Crawford homers

  573. michelle b. in the ghetto's of oakland August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    rays 4 – Sox 1

  574. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Come on Mitre .. I BELIEVE IN YOU

  575. christine August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Crawford swatted one out, off impact penny

  576. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.

  577. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    I hope one of the fielders don’t get hurt. Even the outs are hit very hard.

  578. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    MEAT-TRAYYY

  579. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    no melting, Mitre…

  580. Bo Knows August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Two All Stars, two guys making huge money. Teix is busy pulling everything down and away, why – Stupid comes to mind. A Rod in the last three games started hitting to the opposite field, brought his average up twenty points. Today he’s guessing and striking out. Performing Arts brought to you by the Yankee Styling All Stars. It is to weep.

  581. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Bad Penny doing what he does best..

  582. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.

  583. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    NO WALKS!

  584. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    we’ll find out tonight if Aceves is OK. If the game is tied or the Yankees ahead in the 5th or 6th he’ll be in the game. If he’s really hurting, it will be someone else. I don’t think Mitre will have a long leash tonight, sneaking a win with the Sox losing would be a bonus.

  585. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Anyone know how many Yankees have been thrown out at home this year? Just remember Bobby Meachem at third and the huge difference now. The supporting coaching staff needs a lot of kudos this year.

  586. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    this mitre experiment has got to end.

  587. VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.

    =================================
    Baseball Tonight did an excellent bit about how Teixiera’ range allows the Yanks to better position all of their infielders.

  588. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Fire Bud Selig
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.

    ———————————————

    Because I’d much rather see TB in the playoffs than the Red Sox…I can’t think of a circumstance in which I would be rooting for the Red Sox

  589. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    3 innings might be the limit for Mr. Mitre…

  590. VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Throw strikes damnit!

  591. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    if Mitre keeps falling behind these hitters, he will get popped soon

  592. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Aceves must be hurt, he has disappeared

  593. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    I would think Mitre lasts 4 2/3 if the Yankees are behind and 5 1/3 if they are ahead.

  594. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    who positions the fielders? they seem to be well positioned this year.

    =================================
    Baseball Tonight did an excellent bit about how Teixiera’ range allows the Yanks to better position all of their infielders.

    ********

    wish I saw that, that would have been interesting to watch.

  595. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Well push the Sox further out, win the series against the Sox at home. Then let the Rays and Sox fight it out and wear each other down for the wild card. That’s what I would like to see.

  596. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    fire bud selig, i dont really care who wins in that series because as long as we win, we will be distancing ourselves on one of them no matter what.

  597. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Molina baby!

  598. Past a diving Jeter August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Nice play by hairston there. …… sarcasm

  599. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    sweet!!!

  600. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    awesome

    just, awesome

  601. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    molina has a gun..call 911

  602. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    sick throw molina!

  603. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Jose with the GUN!

  604. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    What a throw by Molina! From his knees and it wasn’t even close at first.

    Great play!

  605. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Nice tag by Tex…

  606. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    thank god for molina!

  607. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    BEAUTIFUL THROW!

  608. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    thats what makes molina a great backup catcher

  609. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    another inning from Mitre……

  610. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Molina :shock:

  611. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Molina can’t hit but well damn………. damn and great tag.

    Tex on his own has transformed this defense….. and Jeter deserves a ton of credit for increasing his range this year. Robbie is as good as he has been, no mental lapses. Arod is obviously limited at third, not as mobile, but still solid.

  612. Eric August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Wow, that was a sick throw… and nice tag by Tex

  613. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    made that throw from his knees……unreal!!

  614. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    need more runs… mtire isn’t going to be putting up zero’s all night…

  615. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Cervie could have done that blindfolded ;)

    totally kidding…

  616. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Mitre ! another strong inning like that .. and HELLOOOOOO fantasy baseball team

  617. Neil August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Mitre has started 18 innings so far and has retired the side in order three times.

  618. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    If Hairston doesn’t get his throws to Cano up and over there quicker, he’s going to get Cano tore up. That’s twice that he’s left him out to dry.

  619. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Penny 60 pitches thru three. I hope he gets hit some more early and get their bulpen arms out there again tonight. Wear them down a bit before the series.

  620. BBB August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    A-Rod has gone 59 at-bats without steroid, his longest streak as a Yankee.

  621. pat August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “Um. Why Would you not be supporting the Red Sox against the Rays? If the Rays go 10 back then the Yanks are assured a post-season berth.”

    Cause people are rooting with their heart and not their head.

  622. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    “I got a feeling Mitre is going to settle down .

    The Yanks will come back and win this”

    I just perused the posts but this certainly was a minority post!

    So nice to see so much panic in such a short period of time.

    :lol:

    Meanwhile I see the Rays are doing their thing.

    More happiness showing up for you. As some posters are wont to do when they really don’t want to be around negativity city, see ya later alligator(s). Enjoy the show.

  623. Chris August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    The Jays announcers actually give good props to the Yankees compared to most opposing team’s announcers.
    They clearly never attended the Peter Gammons School of Objectivity.

  624. Vin August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    man there r only a few catchers that throw behind runners, and most of em r named molina…kudos

  625. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Shouldn’t they know by now that a curveball is coming next????????????????????

  626. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Molina saved Mitre as that was ball 3 to Rios.

    Time to get Claggett warm now and ready to go.

    Its doubtful Mitre can last much longer and Claggett can give them 3-4 innings if necessary.

  627. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Would it be acceptable to refer to Edwin Jackson as E-Jack? Would that be too much?

  628. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    curveball after curveball from this kid

  629. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    60 pitches already for Penny going into the fourth. I guess my prediction will come true.

  630. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Mitre did his part by walking the batter….
    Molina did his part by picking him off….

    They are working really well together.

  631. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    “don’t give GB any tips.”

    don’t worry about that.

    i’m just trying not to be chewed to death.

    ok , new game.

    come on mitre.

  632. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Where are the bats against consonant boy? :D

  633. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Hairston hasn’t been playing third all year so give him sometime. He played 34 games at short and then in the outfield. So it takes a little getting used to and some practice. At least he is fielding those groundballs. So much better than Cody was. Cody made a great play and then would mess up the easy ones.

  634. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Can you guys cut Mitre a little slack? He is a fill-in. Just sit back and stop saying he sucks on every pitch

  635. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    why would Claggett be the 1st one into a tie game? I would think Melancon would get a call first for a couple of innings.

  636. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Does this guy have good stuff or are the Yanks just plain ol’ missing…?

  637. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    da melk hitless since his cycle

  638. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Rzepczynski’s opposing BA is under 2.00, he isn’t a stiff…

  639. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome

    (I was late on his RBI)

  640. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    The kid is one of the Jays better prospects but they were concerned to bring him up as he is so young. His mechanics look quite good so his repetitive release must look the same on different pitches. He has made some of the Yankees look bad.

  641. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    They wouldn’t put Melancon into the game in the 4th inning.

    If they need to make a change in this inning, it most likely will be Claggett. Especially since he’s only here for a day.

  642. pat August 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    “i’m just trying not to be chewed to death.”

    LOL. When I read Jack Russell, I was going to warn you to count your fingers and put on ankle guards.

  643. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Mitre sucks. He got a first pitch out.

  644. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    1 pitch 1 out niiiice

  645. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Mitre has actually settled down a little since the 1st inning, with the bottom of the order coming up he could get through 5.

  646. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Ye of little faith. Mitre is going for the win!

  647. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    clagget would come in for multiple innings if Mitre came out early. Every other guy would use them up for the Sox series. Hughes threw 30 something pitches yesterday so won’t be there. Aceves needs the rest. Everyone else would have to go one or two innings which burns them out if Joba doesn’t go deep into the game. It makes sense to let Clagget eat up some innings and leave it up to the Yankees offense to bail them out.

  648. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    the way Mitre’s fastball moves left to right I’m surprised they don’t jam more of the right handed hitters, it seems like every pitch is supposed to be away.

  649. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Price no walks tonight, he is starting to put it together. Hopefully Kazmir and Price didn’t get their act together.

  650. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    I really don’t get how the yanks are getting owned by this Rzep guy and he literally throws one pitch over and over.

  651. Alan August 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    If only A-Rod would go with the pitch or hit to the opposite field occasionally he would add 20 ot better points to his average in 2 weeks.
    With him it’s the fences or nothing.

  652. CB August 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Hard to believe all of the stories written and words spoken about how “smart” a move signing Brad Penny was in the offseason.

    Low risk. Low cost. High “upside” move. Genius. Management is everything in baseball. You can literally win a world series in boston through sheer will of administration.

    Gammons saying that Penny was the sox, cheaper version of signing AJ Burnett was a classic.

  653. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    John Flaherty is a terrible announcer.

  654. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!

  655. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Mitre out!

  656. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    time for action in the Yankees bullpen…

  657. A-rod will never get it August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Alan you must be blind

  658. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    that looked like a pretty good pitch

  659. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    That pitch was a strike. Come on Mitre get out of this inning…

  660. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    CB, Gammons always has his classics.

    Like having his Cy Young pick years ago Matt Clement when the Sox signed him for ESPN. Not Santana, CC or Halladay. Matt Clement.

    How can anyone take him seriously. He must make a ton at ESPN otherwise just take your dream job and work at NESN

  661. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Carl
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    John Flaherty is a terrible announcer.

    *******
    I agree. He is very boring

  662. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Yankee pitchers have walked the 9 hitter like five million times this year.

  663. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    maybe he can get him with the breaking ball here, he throws it so rarely it fools the hitters

  664. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    CB,

    I’ll go one better. Both Gammons and Joel Sherman said John Smoltz would be the most “dominating pitcher in the AL by September” when he was signed.

    You would have thought the Sox signed Koufax and Drysdale.

  665. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Claggett time to start warming up…

  666. VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!

    ===================
    Now at 7.

  667. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Erica,

    John talks like he never wants to make a mistake in the booth. Then again, who doesn’t. He needs to loosen his tie a little bit. John is too “by the book” for me.

  668. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    three good innings from Mitre!!!

  669. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    gj sergio

  670. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    It is like playing with danger every batter and every inning.

  671. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    I’ve never heard such clamoring for a pitcher with an ERA higher than Mt. Everest before, it’s pretty funny…

  672. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Man I think anyone on this blog could run on Jason Varitek

  673. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    If Mitre can get thru one more solid inning he hasn’t been great, but 5 innings 2 runs was a solid effort even if you ideally want more length.

  674. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    ATTA WAY Mitre!!! Just get thru 6! Go Yanks!!

  675. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    VT Yankeefan
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    good lord – how many 3-1 counts have there been tonight!

    ===================
    Now at 7.

    ““““““““““““`

    How about the Yankees get some now :)

  676. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Mitre survives another shaky inning.

    19 innings as a Yankee, retired the side in order 3 times.

    Definitely playing with fire.

  677. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Good Job Mitre !!..

  678. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Mitre’s pitch count is 83…let someone else start the 5th inning.

  679. islesfan August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    I wouldn’t trust Bobby Meachem to stand behind my car giving directions as I parallel parked it.

    “Keep going, plenty of space, you got…”

    CRASH!!

    “Ok, stop”

  680. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    The game is a little boring without Kay, but that’s mostly because I miss the fake michael kay tweets. That guy is flat out hilarious.

  681. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Rzepczynski definitely has a good breaking ball, I can see why the Jays like him and took him from AA to the rotation within a season.

  682. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Clagget was pretty ugly when he was up last time. I wouldn’t really want to see him today. Let’s get another solid inning from Mitre and then maybe see how Clagget looks with a quick hook for Robertson

  683. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Eduardo Nunez hit a homer off of Pedro Martinez, tonight. Trenton down 4-2 and Martinez has 11 strikeouts.

  684. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    OMG that was a ball.

  685. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Flaherty is pretty funny trying not to mispronounce “that” name. i thought it was funny, too, when Kenny was teasing him about what he’d do if he had to say Saltalamacchia and “that” name in the same game. :)

    Flaherty is a little dry, but he’s smart and isn’t afraid to be critical.

  686. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Do anything against this guy! PLEASE!

  687. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    it’s safe to say that Jorge will be pinch hitting for Molina later in the game if anyone gets on base and the Jays haven’t made a pitching change.

  688. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Saltalamacchia is one of the greatest names in baseball.

    His name is so long that ont he back of his uniform the letters are in his armpits

  689. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    molina is awful at the plate lol just awful

  690. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Eduardo Nunez hit a homer off of Pedro Martinez, tonight. Trenton down 4-2 and Martinez has 11 strikeouts.

    I like Nunez. I’m sure a lot of those players are in awe because that its Pedro.

  691. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Can you imagine an All Star game in the future where Rcepczynski and Salty are the battery? It makes you yearn for an announcing team of Haray Caray and Bob Uecker.

  692. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    ok – that’s it…I play softball in high school…give me a chance at this guy…

    just kidding, but really…that was a VERY quick inning

  693. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    This definitely looks like the we haven’t seen this guy before problem. This guy has 2 pitches. The curveball is the only one he can get over the plate most of the time. They seem lost on what pitch he will be throwing.

  694. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    oooops…that should be playED – I haven’t been in high school for a long time

  695. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Jays have been able to cultivate a good amount of pitching talent. Guys have gotten hurt, but the last few years. Marcum and McGowan. Cecil and this kid are very young. Romero. Richmond. Pretty nice crop of young pitching talent.

  696. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    That looks like the game with Sandy Koufax on the mound.

  697. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Jays lead 3-2

  698. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    that was a batting practice fastball hit by Lind.

  699. pat August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    “Flaherty is a little dry, but he’s smart and isn’t afraid to be critical.”

    Sean Casey on MLB Network said he would never forget how hard it is to play the game when he talks about players and games now that he’s a member of the media.

    He should share that thought with Flaherty because he makes things seem like they should be easy.

  700. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Yeah, Nunez is now 2-3 with 2 RBI. A couple of Reading errors helped them tie the game at 4-4. Old Pete just can’t beat the Yankees at any level. These Yankees just call him “cuzin”.

  701. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    yikes

  702. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Sooner or later it was bound to happen because he isn’t missing many bats.

    Time to get him out now before it gets out of hand.

    Claggett can go 3-4. Might as well use him while the game is still close.

  703. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I was going to say that Girardi should be going batter to batter with Mitre. I thought the batter to batter would be a single not a batting practice 80mph fastball homerun. Get someone up in the bullpen.

  704. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Cannot start walking guys here. Gave up a solo shot. Shake it off.

    I don’t like pushing Aceves in here today if he hasn’t been completely healthy. What was the point of bringing up Clagget?

  705. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Ugh- does that mean Russ Ortiz starts in 5 days???

  706. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Mitre did better than what I expected, so good job by him

  707. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Stayed one batter too long with him again. Fortunately, that wasn’t another HR because that was an awful pitch.

    Hopefully, this experiment has reached a conclusion.

    If its going to be an open tryout for the spot, its time to try somebody else.

  708. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    I was hoping Mitre could do better, he has to improve….the Yanks can’t get 4 innings from their 5th starter everytime out

  709. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    all things considered – this is much better than I expected from Mitre…now the Bats need to show up

  710. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    5 days it will be Sir Sydney Ponson resigned haha

  711. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    here’s where we find out if Aceves is OK or not, if he is, don’t be surprised to see him in the rotation the next time a #5 starter is needed. Mitre, with one pitch, definitely isn’t the answer.

  712. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Nice pitchers’ duel between J-Guth and E-Jack.

  713. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    I don’t like using Aceves here. I would of brought in Claggett to see what he has. With Ace’s arm problems he should be a one inning guy right now. Girardi is definitely going to push him more than that. They will need him for the Sox series.

  714. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    I don’t like pushing Aceves in here today if he hasn’t been completely healthy. What was the point of bringing up Clagget?

    —————————————————-

    Exactly! Would rather only have to use Aceves for 1 or 2 innings tonight…now we may need 3 innings from him. Makes his availability for the Boston series (at least the first 3 games) doubtful.

  715. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    So…are we only going with Aceves because we’re only down 1? Is this to see if he can hack it, so that we can use him in the second or third game against Boston?

    Gotta use Clagget at some point this game. Can’t bring him up and not use him.

  716. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Did anyone end up taking a chance with Mark Mulder this year? Not that he would work because he will take a while beforing being able to pitch but just curious if like Sheets he is waiting until next year now.

  717. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    The Phranchise
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
    5 days it will be Sir Sydney Ponson resigned haha

    ***

    I forgot about that inevitable date with Ponson the Yankees have

  718. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    I dont’ like that first pitch from Aceves

  719. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    The short hook should be out of the bag now. Let’s not let this one go!!

  720. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Donnie – Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O’Neill Banner
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
    So…are we only going with Aceves because we’re only down 1? Is this to see if he can hack it, so that we can use him in the second or third game against Boston?

    Gotta use Clagget at some point this game. Can’t bring him up and not use him.

    ***

    Of course they can Donnie. The Yankees love to do that!

  721. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    They can hit Halladay, but they can’t hit this guy? This is a terrific offense, but at times it’s baffling

  722. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    92 pitches, 10 baserunners, and 3 runs, responsible for Overbay on first, in 4+ innings for Mitre.

    That ain’t worthy of another start. Hopefully, the Yankees feel the same way.

  723. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Well Aceves is in, I guess that means we’ll be seeing Hughes and then Rivera……Hope not with the Boston series around the corner…..I guess we’re going to see if Ace nad his arm is ready for the final 1/3 of the season……

  724. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    this is a good spot for Aceves, we have to get him going again, he hasn’t pitched in a while

  725. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    I thought the point of bringing Claggett up was to fill the gap if Mitre couldn’t go deep? but here’s Aceves anyway?

    I guess Joe was thinking about using Claggett as a mop up guy if the game got out of hand but since its only a 1 run game he figures bring in Aceves to better the chances of winning…i don’t know.

  726. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Using Aceves here? Why? What a waste……in case the game is close late, does he want to use Claggett? LOL

  727. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    I know people are looking for starters thru the waiver wire, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Yankees land a few overpaid relievers which would free up Aceves to get healthy and start. It would be Towers for a few starts in the interim though. Towers can’t be worse than Mitre at this point. Equally bad, maybe

  728. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Betsy- So true.

  729. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Nice breaking ball

  730. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Betsy
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    They can hit Halladay, but they can’t hit this guy? This is a terrific offense, but at times it’s baffling

    ***

    I was arguing with my friend the Astros fan in Houston last week about how the Yankees usually do badly in interleague because they seem to stuggle against pitchers they have never seen

    He said it was the most absurd excuse he has ever heard.

    Now that I think about it, I am not sure I have heard from him since….

  731. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Yikes, a few of those Aceves breaking balls should have been smoked. That last one looked like a hanger

  732. RS August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    The Yankees are using Aceves because they’re down by just 1 run.

    Claggett was insurance in case Mitre totally bombed and gave up 5 runs in 2 innings. The Yankees are actually trying to win this game.

  733. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Aceves may be back!!

  734. Donnie - Will Meet Alex Rios Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Wow, that was a sick curve for strike three. Nice pitch by Ace.

    Sit curveball. That’s all this kid is throwing. Just wait for it, and drill it.

  735. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Aceves is either OK or he’s not OK. If he’s OK he should be the #5 starter, he’s better than any of the other options.

    If he’s not OK, he should be on the DL, it doesn’t matter if he pitches one inning or four, if he’s hurt he shouldn’t pitch because it will get only worse. So holding him out for the Sox series makes no sense because he’s still an unknown until he shows he’s OK.

  736. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    I’m not mad that they brought in Aceves. I think it’s a question of seeing if he can give you anything before the Boston series. What, I will be mad about is if he GI Joe throws him in there for another inning,that makes his aviabilty questionable for the upcoming series.

  737. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    why cant people understand why they are using aceves…joe knws he can win this game…they arnt gonna throw claggett out there and pray he does good…this game is just as important as tomorrows game or the day after..

  738. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Can someone post the yankee record against pitchers they have never seen before again?

    This is a winnable game – no use risking Claggett letting it get out of hand. I think he was “blow-out” insurance, not “close game” insurance

  739. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    They didn’t really “hit” Halladay Betsy, until later in the game. Those 3 solo HR’s were late in the game.

    For most of the game, Doc was Doc and they took advantage of some mistakes.

    This kid has pitched well so far. He’s got a great curveball and can pitch to all 4 quadrants of the plate with it. That’s going to make it tough on hitters.

    He was one of their best pitching prospects for a reason. He’s got a nice game.

  740. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    They didn’t really “hit” Halladay Betsy, until later in the game. Those 3 solo HR’s were late in the game.

    For most of the game, Doc was Doc and they took advantage of some mistakes.

    This kid has pitched well so far. He’s got a great curveball and can pitch to all 4 quadrants of the plate with it. That’s going to make it tough on hitters.

    He was one of their best pitching prospects for a reason. He’s got a nice game.

  741. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    There is something very comforting about seeing a pop-up toward the third baseman and then remembering Arod is the DH.

  742. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    RS
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
    The Yankees are using Aceves because they’re down by just 1 run.

    Claggett was insurance in case Mitre totally bombed and gave up 5 runs in 2 innings. The Yankees are actually trying to win this game.

    ————————————-
    You are right!

  743. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    If the game is close late, we’re not going to see Claggett…..or Melancon or anyone other than Phil or Mo. Stupid

  744. Mitre August 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    time to get the lead

  745. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Did that guy just try to kill MPB Johnny Damon?!?!?1

  746. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    wow so close

  747. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Johnny D’s life just before Eric’s eyes.

  748. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    I hate Vernon Wells

  749. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    i hate vernon wells.

  750. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Wells is annoying. If there is one thing he can do is still play defense.

  751. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Well, that was worth changing my tag.

  752. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    lol erica

  753. PL August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    seriously say what you want that Wells cant hit anymore…but he makes at least one rob job on the Yankees every game he plays in

  754. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Damn you Wells

  755. CaptainsCorner August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    At least for $20m a year Wells can still field. The Jays should be happy about that…

  756. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    I hate that guy

  757. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    I stand corrected. In an earlier post I said Mitre wouldn’t survive 3 innings and he threw 4 1/3 innings. His audition however, may be over.

  758. Past a diving Jeter August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    game set match vernon wells

  759. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    I would think Girardi is looking for 3 innings out of Aceves tonight. If they get a lead, they have Bruney, Robertson, and Coke late in the game and Melancon if it’s tied or close.

    I don’t see Claggett in the game unless they are behind by a few runs, what has he done to earn anything else.

  760. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes

  761. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Vernon Wells may not be able to hit anymore but, he can still play a great CF.

    That’s 3 great catches he has made against the Yankees this year. That was quite a catch.

  762. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    let’s get a run

  763. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Erica – always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Did that guy just try to kill MPB Johnny Damon?!?!?1
    =================================

    Serenity now! :lol:

  764. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
    Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes

    ***

    No joke. You should have heard my gasp when that ball went for Johnny’s head

  765. pi August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    who’s this guy on YES who sounds like Cliff from Cheers?

  766. cashman needs to go August 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    so which genius on this blog said wells was terrible in the OF? Looked pretty good the last 2 nights and a few weeks ago at NYS…

  767. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    True, SJ – but they did take advantage of the few mistakes Doc made. It’s just weird that they can do that against Doc and not against this guy……..but then again, I admit that it’s easier to blame the Yankees offense instead of crediting the other pitcher.

  768. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Another rookie having a career night against the Yanks?

  769. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    7 K’s in 5 2/3. Good job Yanks.

  770. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    if the yankees don’t do better with Rzepczynski, it won’t matter who’s pitching.

    with a little offense, things would be looking a lot better.

  771. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    That was a gift by the blue…..

  772. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    damn a-rod, just missed it

  773. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    damn a-rod, just missed it

  774. A-rod will never get it August 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    umm he needed roids for that one

  775. CB August 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    This would be a good game to use Melancon. It’s fine to put Aceves in but I’d like him to be available for boston and he’s had a bad shoulder.

    The Jays offense is good but it’s not overly dangerous.

    Girardi is not going to use Melancon against boston. Use him tonight and save some of Aceves’s bullets.

    They cannot have a bull pen where only 4 pitchers are in the circle of trust that has to be entered in order to pitch in a close game.

  776. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Not sure if I should turn this game off. Can they at least run the count up on this immortal?(sarcasm)

  777. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Betsy,

    That’s baseball. Its not a sport one can predict based on pitching matchups.

    For example, there were hundreds of posts on here “guaranteeing” two losses for the Yankees because Buerhle and Halladay were pitching and the Yankees won both games.

    This game is still a game at 3-2.

    Its an impossible sport to predict and people look foolish every year trying to do so.

  778. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Nice deke by Crawford on the V-mart homer.

    The point of it eludes me, though.

  779. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    dudes pitching a good game…there are still 3 innings left and its a 1 run game though…im not giving the W to marc just yet

  780. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
    GreenBeret7
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
    Correction: Johnny D’s life just before ***Erica’s*** eyes

    ***

    No joke. You should have heard my gasp when that ball went for Johnny’s head

    ————————————————————

    We did. It sounded like a freight train.

  781. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    this rookie can pitch, Opposing BA of .194, ERA of 3.25, already beat the Sox giving up 1 run in 6 innings.

    The game isn’t over, of course, he’s unlikely to go more than 6 or 7, the bullpen isn’t overpowering.

  782. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    I can’t believe Dave Roberts on NESN compared Jed Lowrie to Jeter. LOL ! That is such a joke.

  783. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    The kid isn’t having a career night, he’s just good. He beat the Sox and he gave up one run in seven innings against the Rays. Needs to get some credit here. Yankees need it close, get to the pen and have Matsui and Jorge on the bench.

  784. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    two nice curve balls from Ace

  785. MG August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I can’t imagine Ace having major shoulder issues throwing so many breaking balls.

  786. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?

  787. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Al,

    Perhaps you can give the pitcher some credit. He’s throwing a good game and he’s been helped by his defense.

    Its not always the lack of offense. Sometimes, the pitcher is just throwing a good game. It happens.

  788. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies

  789. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Al from BK
    August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?

    ————————————

    How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.

  790. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Mitre sucks!!!

  791. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Bite, Life, Stuff. I’m John Flaherty.

  792. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    a nice quick inning here and hopefully making Rzepczynski come back out quickly coupled with his high pitch count will make him a more vulnerable. Lets go Yanks, get to this guy!

  793. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Aceves rocks!

  794. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Aceves looks much better than he has recently. His curve particularly.

    Still not back up to baseline but he looks better.

    He might not be cut out to pitch out of the pen. Some guys don’t do well with it physically.

  795. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    “Why waste Ace in this game before the sawks series?”

    Because Ace’s last appearance wasn’t pretty, AND it was quite a few days ago. It’s better to use him now, see how he fares, as well as give him a chance to shake off some rust. He’ll be ready to go by the second or third game.

  796. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Ace is fine, how can he not take Mitre’s place in the rotation if he’s throwing this well?

  797. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    I am very relieved seeing Aceves throwing this well. I hope Girardi doesn’t leave him out too long. But that was a nice quick inning. Get right back out there after htis kid

  798. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Is it really wasting Aceves? I don’t think so, you have to see what he has, he hasn’t pitched in awhile. Saving him for BoSox series won’t help if you don’t know if he’s 100%.

  799. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Ace looks like he is close to being back

  800. VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    It’s amazing what throwing strikes will do.

  801. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    i think its safe to say ace feels kinda good

  802. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Well done Alfredo sauce. :)

  803. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Rishi
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
    now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies

    ***

    Glad the laptop is safe. I would hate to see it die a victim of overreacting

  804. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    “Bite, Life, Stuff. I’m John Flaherty.”

    I swear to God, if that was a t-shirt, I would buy and wear it.

  805. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    “How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.”

    Trailing in the 7th, cannot touch the opposing pitcher. Why not leave ALL the bullets in the chamber for the sox series? Especially with his “tired” arm we might not see Ace again until Saturday.

  806. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I totally want a Yankees calculator. I am an accountant!

    Accountants use calculators.
    (That’s my motto when people realize i can’t do 95494/9 in my head)

  807. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Has anyone seen a lot of Kroenke??? Does he have enough to be effective for us in the pen this year ? I know he isn’t overpowering, just curious if he is capable of filling the long relief role?

  808. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Swish baby

  809. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    SWISHHHHH

  810. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    SUPER SWISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  811. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    swishy

  812. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    SWISHERLICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

  813. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Pete called it!

  814. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
    Rishi
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
    now if Ace walks the #9 here, my new laptop dies

    ***

    Glad the laptop is safe. I would hate to see it die a victim of overreacting

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I guess the exaggeration doesn’t come across so well on the internet – walking the light-hitting #9s is a total pet peeve

  815. Maria August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Swish!!

  816. pat August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Woo Hoo Swish!

  817. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    SWISH!!!

  818. A-rod will never get it August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    yea

  819. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    CB
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
    Aceves looks much better than he has recently. His curve particularly.

    Still not back up to baseline but he looks better.

    He might not be cut out to pitch out of the pen. Some guys don’t do well with it physically.
    ——————————————-
    Aceves has always been a starter, pitching out of the ‘pen can really grind you down because you get up and down so frequently plus you never have a regular throwing schedule. I believe that Mo only throws when he is going into a game but how many pitchers can maintain their control and command like he does. It’s a little easier for him, of course, because he isn’t throwing many different pitches. Ace has 4 pitches, it must be really tough to maintain command when he never gets to throw a side session.

  820. Armand August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    wow great call Peter

  821. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    SWISHALICIOUS!!

  822. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Swisher is swinging the bat much better lately. Would help during the Sox series. Maybe Hairston and Hinske are pushing him a bit too.

  823. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Al,

    How many times has this team come back.

    It’s pointless giving up on this offenses’s ability to come back.

  824. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    At least he crushes them on the road.

  825. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Swishy! :D

  826. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Trailing in the 7th? It’s a ONE RUN GAME. Last time I checked we still play to win.

  827. VT Yankeefan August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    This is the furthest that Rzepczynski has pitched all year.

  828. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Rally time!

  829. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    I thought he caught that!!

  830. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    4th home run on the road trip by Swish.

  831. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    how do you not get a triple????

  832. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    dont swing at the 1st pitch :P

  833. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Make that a TIE GAME!

  834. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    All of a sudden they can see the pitches? :)

  835. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    3rd time through the order seems to be the charm with this guy, they have hit some shots this time around.

  836. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    wasnt hustling

  837. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    You’re out of K’s, Rsaprzasski!

  838. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Al, I thought the game was over, save all the bullets, yada yada yada.

  839. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    CB,

    Good point. If that’s the case, he could be the 5th starter and that will give Melancon a chance for significant innings work down the stretch.

    Mark may end up being an important contributor down the stretch if he replaces Ace in the pen, allowing Ace to go into the rotation.

    Great, clutch HR by Swish! New ballgame.

  840. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    “How is pitching him today a waste? They want to win this game.”

    Trailing in the 7th, cannot touch the opposing pitcher. Why not leave ALL the bullets in the chamber for the sox series? Especially with his “tired” arm we might not see Ace again until Saturday.

    ________________________________________

    We just touched the opposing pitcher….this game is still winnable, you’ve got to do what you can to win this game

  841. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Since when did Aceves have major shoulder issues?

    He had a tired/sore shoulder. I doubt they’d bring him back if it was a major shoulder issue.

  842. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Aceves deserves the credit for a great inning pitch and deserves the credit for getting this kid right back out there with no rest for them to hop on him. I wanted Claggat, but that’s why I am not a manager. Aceves was obviously the best call and has completely changed the complection of this game. If they win he gets the belt no matter what happens now.

  843. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    “Al, I thought the game was over, save all the bullets, yada yada yada.”

    I would hold off on the chest thumping. Let’s see if they get Cano in now.

  844. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Al,

    You pitch Ace in a 3-2 game, not in a 10-2 game.

    This is still a winnable game.

  845. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “Ace has 4 pitches, it must be really tough to maintain command when he never gets to throw a side session.”

    MG,

    He’s been great out of the pen. But I think he’s a starter.

    And he might need to get slotted back into the rotation soon.

    Call up Kroenke and put him in the pen. Give Wilkins De La Rosa a shot out of the pen or even Ivan Nova. Those guys aren’t ready to start but they might be ok coming out of the pen for 1-2 innings.

  846. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    If you’re going to hold off on the chest thumping, can you hold off on the wrist slashing too? ;)

  847. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Melk man tries to bunt a ball in his eyes, not the best idea

  848. Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    pl
    You do not make the first out at 3rd. nothing do with hustle

  849. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    PL
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
    how do you not get a triple????

    ————————————————————

    Typical BS. If he can’t make it standing up why chance it with Rios’ arm?

  850. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    I miss Michael Kay :cry:

  851. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Why bunt with a man on 2nd and no outs. Just pull the ball.

  852. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    They don’t teach bunting in our system?

  853. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    wow stop bunting

  854. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    pl
    You do not make the first out at 3rd. nothing do with hustle

    yea but would he have been out?

  855. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    good job melky…come on jerry!

  856. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    This is a game where you wish Gardner was around, on turf and can lay down a bunt.

    But nice job by the Melk man getting that done

  857. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    See Melky that’s all you have to do.

  858. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    lets go godzillllla

  859. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    CB, I’ve said for weeks that Aceves should be in the rotation. He is a starter by training and experience and knows how to pitch. I’m guessing the Yankees essentially shut him down in the bullpen and had him throw a couple of side sessions to get ready in case Mitre sucked again tonight. Now he’s pitched a couple of good innings, one more and you take him out and have him ready to go 5 the next time you need a 5th starter.

  860. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    PL
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
    how do you not get a triple????

    ————————————————————

    Typical BS. If he can’t make it standing up why chance it with Rios’ arm?
    Beacuse it’s not Rios arm its Aaron hills arm

  861. Leah August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “PHILTHY PHIL: Phil Hughes has 37 strikeouts in 29.1 innings of relief.”

    That’s like 11.44 Ks per 9 innings… CRAZY!!!

  862. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Huh, Al? You said they could not touch the guy. They tied the game. Boy, I bet you wish Claggett had come in the game, right?

  863. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Sui!

  864. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    yesssssir..this guy is the best with risp

  865. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Yes! We got some situational hitting in a close game.

  866. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    noyce

  867. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    5-2 Tampa

  868. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    SJ,

    I think you have to bite the bullet and get Aceves back into the rotation.

    They really could use him in the pen. But just like Hughes they there’s only 1 of him.

    And I do worry that he’s just not cut out for the grind out of the pen.

    He wore out pretty quickly coming out of the pen. It’s not like his shoulder gave out at the end of the season.

    Put him in the rotation. Give melancon more innings. Try calling someone up and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle.

    I’d consider calling up De La Rosa – he’s not ready to be a big league starter but I could see him being effective for 1-2 innings at a time as he empties the tank.

  869. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Ha, how the heck does Iglett not get to that????? Infield in and was he playing that deep in the opposite field????? I will take it.

  870. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    wow, we just saw a worse outfielder than both Damon and Hinske. Thanks, Jays…

  871. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    MG
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
    wow, we just saw a worse outfielder than both Damon and Hinske. Thanks, Jays…

    ****

    I was just thinking that. I really think Damon would have made that catch. Or died trying.

  872. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Hmm- another team just walked our #9 hitter

  873. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    so, does hinske play 3rd or does Alex go over and we lose the DH?

    I’m assuming Girardi is reading this and will answer me.

  874. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    I doubt they will put Hinske at 3rd with a lead, you put in Arod and pinch hit for the pitcher the next time through the order-they could easily do a double switch with Posada.

  875. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Derek is going to drive a first pitch fastball into the gap

  876. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    HA he walks jose lol really

  877. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    straight heat…wow

  878. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Looks like A Rod w/a strong game, getting ready for the Sox series

  879. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Jeter had no shot in that AB.

  880. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Or miss all the fastballs down the pipe and k.

    Either or.

  881. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Wow. You don’t see that from Jeet often.

  882. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Jeter has not seen the ball well the last two nights, very unusual for him.

  883. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Jeter’s not having his best night ever at the plate.

  884. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    CB,

    I agree. Here’s the way I see it.

    While Melancon may not be completely ready for primetime yet, he is more ready to assume that role than Mitre is to assume the 5th starters role.

    If you put Ace in the rotation, you lessen one headache. It also may be easier to find a functional bullpen arm (if you need one) via the waiver wire or in AAA than it is finding a starter at this point.

  885. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    wth DJ..right down the middle and not that fast

  886. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    he walks molina then strikes out Jeter.

    Its a funny game, that baseball.

  887. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Jetes whiffs….

  888. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Damon will hit a 3 run homer.

  889. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Uh Jete? Its ok. He’s saving up his energy for the weekend. I’m dreaming of a walk-off HR of Papelbon :grin:

  890. Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    PL
    It was Rios. Cano would have been out. The fact that he just scored should tell you something.

  891. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Brian from PA
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
    he walks molina then strikes out Jeter.

    Its a funny game, that baseball.

    ****
    K-Rod walked Mariano Rivera and then struck out Tex.

  892. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Thats good enough. GJ DAMON!

  893. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Ha Barajas drops another ball. I love him

  894. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Speedy Godzilla, they never had a chance!

  895. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    the speedy Sui

  896. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.

  897. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Barajas is allergic to handling the ball when he has the out by a mile.

  898. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    o god lets hope matsui didn’t blow his knee out lol

  899. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Go Johnny, GO!

  900. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    It turned out happy- but what was Rob Thompson thinking with Matsui running???

  901. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    I wonder who would win a 40 yard dash between Matsui and Molina-maybe they would both pull up before the finish lol

  902. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    WOW, that’s a bad send. That was worse than the send on A-Rod last night. Is Barajas ALWAYS this sketchy?

  903. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    I hope Matsui is not hurt.

  904. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    holy cow, that was lucky. Matsui was SO out!

  905. Rob in Vt. August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    lucky break there as Godzilla scores.

  906. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Matsui should be sponsored by Bengay.

  907. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome and Clutch!!!! :grin:

  908. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    LOL! Matsui is soooo slow! Can’t believe Barajas.

  909. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    wow what a terrible terrible terrible play by barajas

  910. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    put it away Tex

  911. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Teix could hit one out right here…

  912. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    RDm,

    You were strangely absent last night when Arod got a big, 2 out hit against Halladay.

    Always good to see you back with more moronic posts.

  913. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Looks like Francona is going to try and save his pen and let Penny put this game completely out of reach. Isn’t he one fifth of the Sox really deep rotation we have heard about all year?

  914. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Johnny Dangerously

  915. pat August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    It hurts me to watch Matsui run.

  916. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    this game is making me so happy.

  917. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Tex baby! wooo! Rally!

  918. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    WOOOT! Lets take this one out of their grasp! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

  919. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Let ‘er rip!

  920. Rob in Vt. August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Yeah Tex

  921. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    PL
    It was Rios. Cano would have been out. The fact that he just scored should tell you something.

    Not that it matters because they scored, but it in fact was Rios who hit the cut off man who was Hill.

  922. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    :)

  923. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    NYY626
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
    Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.

    ***

    Is this a surprise to anyone?? :-)

  924. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    TEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  925. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    The Yankees like that 7th inning :)

  926. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    2 out hits. Who are these guys haha

  927. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    hitting with RISP, i loveeeee it

  928. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    HR from A-Rod? Its been a while. :)

  929. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    A Rod hits a homer here and we pitch Clagget :)

  930. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Rally Killer is up….K or ground out…

  931. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Give him one of those Jeter pitches and it will be gone

  932. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    I guess you could say signing Tex was a decent move.. :)

  933. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Jeter is hitting around .320 overall.

    YES just flashed a stat that he’s hitting .347 in the 7th inning and later. Flaherty and Singleton remarked about how Jeter was getting the job done late in the game.

    That late in the game stat is supposed to signify some aspect of the player being “clutch.”

    But the 7th inning and later is correlated with something else, especially for the yankees.

    The yankees have worn starters out this year with patience.

    They are almost always in the other team’s pen by the 7th inning or so.

    Relief pitchers are systematically worse than starters.

    As we are seeing tonight with the jays.

    Why is it such a surprise that he’s hitting somewhat better from the 7th innin and on. He’s facing worse pitching.

  934. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Love Matsui, two bad knees and still giving his all.

  935. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Nice job Tex and Damon….

  936. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?

  937. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    2-0 pitch, there she goes

  938. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    this is a really good development-they get a win tonight with awful starting pitching and the Sox are losing plus wearing out their bullpen again.

    Absolutely no excuses if they fall short against the Sox over the weekend.

  939. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Erica – always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Well Johnny is having a FABULOUS series.

    ***

    Is this a surprise to anyone?? :-)
    ________________________________________________________________
    Of course not. Let’s hope it continues and he sticks it to his old teammates tomorrow :)

  940. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Interesting to see what Girardi does if Arod doesn’t bring in a run here.

    Does he go with Ace, Hughes, and Mo to lock the game down? Or does he trust one of the other guys with a 3 run lead?

  941. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    That had 3run HR written all over it.

  942. JeterJobaFanForever - but I will notbadmouthPhil August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Is the pitcher Roeneke related to Gary? Roeneke who played for Orioles. Wow! I liked Gary. Speaking of the O’s, Hairston Jr. is doing very well – he looks like he belongs.

  943. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I think Godzilla yelled “HA” in Japanese and Barajas dropped the ball – those Blue Jays fall for that trick every year.

  944. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?

    Def without a doubt…youth and vets

  945. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Damon hates the Sox

  946. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Oh well. A walk is better than an out.

  947. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I would love to see Swish hit a granny

  948. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Tom in N.J.
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
    Anybody else feel this is the most tenacious Yankee team since the dynasty?

    ————————–

    If they had a number 5 starter, I would feel a lot better

  949. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Swish, how about a 5 rbi inning? ;)

  950. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    bases loaded for Swishy. Can they blow this game open?

  951. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I admit that I forgot that Aceves has been a starter his whole career. He’s really valuable in the pen, but on the other hand, running these sad starters out there on a constant basis is killing the pen anyway… I don’t think I’d trust more kids in the pen, but we may just have to make the best of a bad situation (and that would be Ace in the rotation)

  952. Scorpio August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I doubt we’d see Hughes tonight and rightfully so.

  953. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I think Godzilla yelled “HA” in Japanese and Barajas dropped the ball – those Blue Jays fall for that trick every year.

    lol

  954. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    LOL! Swish grabbing Damon.

  955. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Arod being selective. That is what I like to see.

    Swisher swinging the bat well. Let’s go

  956. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    I was wrong about the Sox burning out their bullpen tonight-Penny has thrown over 110 pitches and is taking one for the team. That should tell you Francona is concerned about the next 4 games.

  957. Greg D August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    that pitch was high

  958. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Get those damn “fan umps” ejected. They’re sooooo annoying!

  959. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Hughes should not pitch tonight. 30 something pitches yesterday. Need him tomorrow. Plenty of arms out there with this lead. Bruney will be in the eight, maybe coke for a batter or two.

  960. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Johnny D.
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
    Get those damn “fan umps” ejected. They’re sooooo annoying!

    ***

    If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly

    The baseball game would be rated R for violence

  961. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Why is swisher taking that ridiculous hack at the ball.

    Just drive a run in. That will make all of the difference in this game.

  962. tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.

  963. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    That was strike 3

  964. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    WOOOOW! Swish got a lucky call.

  965. Joe August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Let’s see Melancon in the 9th!

  966. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    “tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.”

    :rolleyes: Why are you here?

  967. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    the umps behind the plate throwing the ball back to the invisable pitcher..that is really great

  968. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    good at bat for Swish.

  969. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Second that, I wanna see Melancon

  970. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    “If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly

    The baseball game would be rated R for violence”

    Same here. 2 bozos.

  971. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Swung at ball 4. :(

  972. Brian from PA August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    ITS A GRAND SWISH! oh wait he missed it

  973. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    damn swinging for a grandslam every time doesn’t always work

  974. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Ball 4 swish, ball 4. But thanks for the HR!

  975. yankskiddd August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Dangggg itt swish..fell for that pitch 3 times and missed

  976. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    The trolls have lost interest in getting swept by the Rays. Don’t want to see Penny get up to a 150 pitches tonight???

  977. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    That was a sucker pitch

  978. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    What was Swisher swinging at?

    Oh well, 4 runs is good. It would have been nice to score an extra run on a walk and get out of save territory, though…

  979. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Al from BK
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    “If I were sitting behind them and they kept standing like that- it would get really ugly

    The baseball game would be rated R for violence”

    Same here. 2 bozos.

    ***

    But I am a girl so they can’t hit me back. I would get all ninja style on them!

    And throw stuff!

  980. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Ew, Swish, what was that? NOT a good swing at a pitch not really all that close to the zone.

  981. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Penny at 117 pitches. Francona is crazy to send him out for another inning. If so, the Rays will hit him silly.

  982. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    The ying and yang of Nick Swisher. Hits a clutch HR and strikes out on ball 4 a foot off the plate.

    That’s pretty much his career as an all or nothing hitter.

    Time to get 9 outs and win this game.

  983. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    he wasn’t happy after swinging at that pitch but did tie the game, no complaints from me.

  984. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Swisher doesn’t adjust his approach at the plate for the context of the game at all.

    He tries to hit a grand slam on ball 4 of a game in which another run would completely change the way they would have to use their bull pen the game before they play boston.

  985. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    thats a great pitch right…takes some balls to throw that 3-2 bases loaded

  986. tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Johnny D.
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
    “tom August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Since they will be swept by Boston, might as well use phil and Mo in this game now.”

    :rolleyes: Why are you here?

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
    If you were a betting man, what would you do?

  987. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    How classic Big Papi still trying to find out what he tested positive for.

    You know what you did you big Phonny, some dominican milkshakes.

  988. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Ace smells a win here…

  989. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Seriously? You cant get on Swish for that. That was a gutsy pitch to throw with the bases loaded and 3-2 count.

  990. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Canadian feed showing Kate Hudson in a luxury box.
    Did she stop making movies and turn into a Yankee groupie?

  991. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “But I am a girl so they can’t hit me back. I would get all ninja style on them!

    And throw stuff!”

    One of the many benefits of being a woman. I kid! ;)

  992. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Actually, the 2003 and 2004 teams were also very, very good – never out of games. 2003 – WS. 2004 – I don’t recall the ending. :)

  993. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    “If you were a betting man, what would you do?”

    Take tonight’s run line at +140. :)

    Can they make it hold up???

  994. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    I think they brought Clagget up to use in case the game was a blow out. Since the Yankees have a chance to win the game, they might as well go for it. Also, it will be good to see what Aceves can give them since his last time out in Chicago wasn’t very good.

  995. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Aceves? Would have went with either Melancon or Robertson. Stay away from Hughes 26 pitches last night and the Sox coming up.

  996. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Big Papi still trying to find out what he tested positive for………..reminds me of OJ still trying to find the real killers………..

  997. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    “Seriously? You cant get on Swish for that. ”

    For what? Corkscrewing himself into the ground on a ball well out of the zone with the bases loaded?

    Quality at bat for the on base percentage machine.

  998. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    ewwwwww

  999. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Scutaro is so pesky

  1000. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Somewhere along the line Giradi is going to need to trust Bruney & Melachon….We’re reaching the final turn of the season and before you know it the stretch run in September will be upon us……

  1001. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    :(

  1002. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    What the heck?!

  1003. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    unbelievable – Marco Scutaro

  1004. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    get Aceves out

    they can still use him by Friday if they get him out now

  1005. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    did he really call back to back change ups?

  1006. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Time to pull him. Don’t want to waste him. His command is gone, and he’s either in the dirt, or up.

  1007. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    5 to 3 Rays now

  1008. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    A Rod…LOL

  1009. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Ace shook off Molina twice to throw the changeup.

    Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.

  1010. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    He took a page from Manny, let’s find out exactly what they have on me out of what I actually did and then formulate a story to try and make it seem like it was totally innocent. I am shocked, well except for when the players association told me I tested positive years ago. So much going on, I forgot about that.

  1011. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Please stay away from Hughes :(

  1012. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    did he really call back to back change ups?

    I think Posada called them from the bench

  1013. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    It’s official:

    Scouts have Rasnerized Aceves.

  1014. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Go to Coke to pitch to Lind.

  1015. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Again, Aceves had a tired arm. Why leave him in here to get tired again ???

  1016. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Ace shook off Molina twice to throw the changeup.

    Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.

    Oh ok he shook him off. I thought Molina put it down.

  1017. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Good time to get Aceves out.

  1018. PJH August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
    If you were a betting man, what would you do?

    Well if you had any common sense, statistics would dictate that the Yankees are due to win a few games v. the Sox.

  1019. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Oh please, CB, Jeter did the same thing and you didn’t peep. You and SJ both have blind spots with Swisher. He can do no right.

  1020. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Rasernized. I like it. Is that on Urban Dictionary????

  1021. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    “umm, have you followed what happended the last 3 series?
    If you were a betting man, what would you do?”

    They’re both different teams from the last time they played on June 11th.

  1022. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    If the Yanks can get to Smoltz early tomorrow, they can really hammer the Sox pen for the series.

    they are still operating without a longman and it looks like they’ll be worked a bit for the second game in a row tonight.

  1023. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    “Somewhere along the line Giradi is going to need to trust Bruney & Melachon…”

    There’s a rule that only 4 pitchers in the pen can pitch in a close game.

    If you are not going to try to give Coke and Aceves a break and give another pitcher a chance in a game against the Jays then when are you going to?

    Coke in for his 50th appearance of the year. 3rd most in the AL.

  1024. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Nothing of the sort. He shook off Molina and threw a bad changeup. That’s it. He also got some big outs in the game.

    As far as the Swisher AB, if your greatest strength as a hitter is your eye, swinging from the heels on ball 4, which would have delivered another run, is not a good AB.

    That’s just who he is as a hitter. Its why he is so poor with RISP.

  1025. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I don’t know guys, I appreciate the fact Mitre did not give up his usual 5 runs, but, 8 hits, 2 walks, and 92 pitches in 4.1 innings doesn’t cut it for me.

    I hope we have seen the last of the Mitre experiment, I really do. I know the kid is trying, but not everyone is cut out to be a MLB pitcher.

    I don’t know what the answer is for that fifth starter, but Mitre is no longer an option in my opinion.

  1026. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    If I were a betting man, I would bet you got bored watching Penny get shelled and couldn’t find any friends to console you, so you decided to completely waste your time and come on here.

  1027. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Phil “the pointer” Coke

  1028. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Johnny Damon catching fly balls now scares me like when Sheff couldn’t ift his arm and was catching fly balls with one hand off to the side of his body.

  1029. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Think Coke pointing was bad, anyone catch Bard pointing on the Longoria homer??? Evan crushed that

  1030. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    GJ Coke

  1031. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    Johnny Damon catching fly balls now scares me like when Sheff couldn’t ift his arm and was catching fly balls with one hand off to the side of his body.

    HA ha yea. and then the side arm skip throw back into the infield

  1032. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Nasty slider by Coke,to end the inning.

  1033. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    6-3 Tampa

  1034. christine August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Rays Hammer another HOMER!

  1035. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Nice job Coke. I’m appreciating how quickly he and Aceves have gotten outs.

  1036. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    How is it a “blind spot” for a guy hitting around the Mendoza Line with RISP?

    You really want to compare Derek Jeter and Nick Swisher?

    Talk about having a blind spot for a player.

    Great job Phil Coke.

    My guess is, Bruney is going to get his shot in the 8th.

    Can he do the job and how long do you stay with him in the inning if he can’t?

  1037. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    6-3 RAYS put it on the board…..YES

  1038. pat August 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Phil “the pointer” Coke

    :smile:

  1039. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    nice job by coke

  1040. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    “Jeter did the same thing and you didn’t peep. You and SJ both have blind spots with Swisher. He can do no right.”

    In a context independent, game neutral environment I’m sure “swish” would have done something positive.

    Give me a break Jeter just did not see the ball out of the kids hand. It happens. Yankee hitters started seeing the ball much better as he threw more pitches. That’s pretty common with relievers.

    Swisher had a bad at bat. So be it.

    Why can’t you just admit that?

    He was corkscrewing himself into the ground because he was trying to hit a grandslam when a single would have put the game out of reach and saved the pen a ton of wear.

    It just wasn’t a good at bat.

    That’s a fact. It was a bad at bat because of the way he tried to jack the ball out of the park.

  1041. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Lyle Overpay

  1042. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Phil Coke’s dog:

    http://media-2.web.britannica......5328A2.jpg

  1043. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Somebody feed this pitcher

  1044. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Coke will get pinch hit for, I wonder who will pitch the 8th-Robertson or Bruney? I’ll be surprised if Mo pitches tonight but the old adage is a win is a win is a win, right?

  1045. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Bedard MRI. He’s headed down the Mark Prior road of career being over. No waiver pickups this year. That O’S Mariners deal gets worse and worse

  1046. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Pinch hit CC….

  1047. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    “Don’t go Joba on us Ace. Listen to your catcher. You just gave away a run with a ridiculous pitch to Scutaro in that situation.”

    Yea… that’s that last thing the Yankees need, another pitcher like Joba Chamberlain. Didn’t you say that if Joba didn’t get his act together a few months into the season that the Yankees should send the 23 year old to the bullpen for the rest of his career?

    Riiight.

  1048. sunny615 August 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    those fake umps are really annoying.

  1049. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Tough decision here for Girardi….obviously want to win the game – hence a good reason to use Hughes/Mo.

    But I want those guys fresh for all 4 games for the upcoming SWEEP.

    Tough call. Maybe the Yanks can put up a 3 spot here and use Clagget or Melancon.

  1050. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Iglett is terrible. Yikes

  1051. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    eh swisher swings out of his shoes every time up, every players got those little things that drive ya nuts

  1052. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Cano is slow. Lazy. And slow.

  1053. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    we have identified the worst outfielder in baseball, he plays for the Jays

  1054. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    ca-yes!

  1055. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    nice job melky!

  1056. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    BUNT

  1057. G August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    yankees shud sign recently declared free agent yadel marti .. cuban pitcher… pitched almost a 7 innning perfect game vs Venezuela

  1058. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Eris Hinske sighting

  1059. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    “they are still operating without a longman and it looks like they’ll be worked a bit for the second game in a row tonight.”

    Intersting note on Boston’s roster construction.

    For a great deal of this year they’ve been going with an 11 man pitching staff with only 6 relievers.

    They were able to do that because of the flexibility that Justin Masterson gave them coming out of the pen.

    The VMart trade was a good one for them.

    But they don’t have anyone to replace Masterson so they are now going to have to go to a conventional 12 man staff with 7 relievers.

  1060. Joe (Utica) August 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    why does it take Cano 20 minutes to get out of the batters box… Someone should tell him he is a lefty and they get down the line quicker…
    PS I am a huge Cano fan

  1061. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    I have to say- I am kind of loving our bench

  1062. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Small ball

  1063. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    that was great hitting by Hinkse

  1064. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    very nice Eric..

  1065. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Get the run in Hinske….lead off walk for Boston… VMart up…

  1066. Johnny D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    HINSKE WITH YOUR BEST SAC!

  1067. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Situational hitting! Situational hitting!

  1068. pat August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    “Phil Coke’s dog”

    That would be redundant. He should have a retriever.

  1069. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Great situational hitting.

  1070. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Good job Hinske!!!

  1071. Mark H August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Eric Hinske gets things done.

  1072. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Nice job guys. Situtational hitting.

    Yankees going to make an ALI rotunda to rival CitiFields???

  1073. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    I would actually use Bruney here….I know he’s going to give up at least 1 run but now with a 3 run lead I do not go to Hughes.

  1074. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    RBI Blart!!!!

  1075. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    nice job hinske

  1076. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    CB, it was an 8 pitch at bat with the bases loaded, and the guy buried a slider on a 3-2 count. Sorry, but I have to disagree.

  1077. Chris August 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    All insurance runs will be accepted.

  1078. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    “I don’t know what the answer is for that fifth starter, but Mitre is no longer an option in my opinion.”

    I would not mind Mitre if someone told me that the rest of the rotation would stay healthy the rest of the season, and that Aceves’ shoulder is fine.

    But I do think we need another reliable starter in case someone gets hurt. I would love to get Garland or Arroyo…just someone who can be counted on to give innings and give the team a chance to win more often than not.

  1079. Y. K. W. August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    May be Muhammad Ali can knock out Yockilis tomorrow.

  1080. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Just to finish the thought on my loving our bench-

    Two pinch hitters off the bench tonight each got a RBI. When was the last time that happened???

  1081. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Great…VMart w/a double…2nd and 3rd…0 outs for Sux…can we trade A Rod for VMart?

  1082. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    uh – not looking good in Tampa Bay

  1083. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    man V Mart just keeps getting hits…

  1084. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Sox coming back, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1085. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    How was Joba doing when he was shaking off every catcher on the staff? Horribly.

    What has been one of the biggest changes of Joba since the ASB? He isn’t shaking off the catchers as much.

    Instead of taking shots at me, trying thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.

    Great AB’s by Melky and Hinske and the Yankees add onto the lead.

  1086. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    I hope melancon gets the ball, it’d be nice to get him used to pitching in some semi-meaningful innings

  1087. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Walk Molina on 4 pitches. Jeter swings at the first.

  1088. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Sox can have V-Mart. Just glad they didn’t get Doc :)

  1089. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    everytime I read “V Mart”, I am reminded of “K Mart” and “Wal Mart”…no idea why

  1090. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    let the Sox and Rays go another 13 innings tonight, that works for me.

  1091. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Victor Martinez is awesome. He concerns me this weekend.

  1092. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    lol – Nice pic, Nick in SF.

    I was thinking of that too, but I didn’t want to imply Coke was a dog. (didn’t want to get the Ransom lecture) ;-)

  1093. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    That’s what happens when you throw a guy like Bennet out there you just got after the Braves released him.

  1094. Jinx Jinx Jinx Jinx August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Congrats to the Red Sox for beating the Rays tonight!

  1095. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    I don’t get why people complain about Swisher so much. He’s having a solid season at the plate and was brought in for Wilson Betemit. In an inning where he hits a game tying home run, he gets crap striking out after working himself back into a count. That was probably a 10 pitch at bat, and he was tricked on the last pitch.

    What is it that you expect from him?

  1096. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Very good base running by Cano.

    Hinske and hairston have been very nice pick ups. Both contributed nicely in the game tonight.

    Very nice balance on the offense tonight. Swisher laces a home run. They score a couple more runs on a few base hits. Next inning cano gets the double and they get that run Aceves gave up right back.

    Nicely done.

  1097. Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Hinske, and Hairston nice under the radar pick-ups by Cash.

  1098. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Hughes!!!!!!

  1099. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    LONGORIA HOW DO YOU NOT TURN 2 ON THAT?????????????

  1100. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Joe Torre is tonight’s guest manager apparently

  1101. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Hughes has moss coming out of the back of his cap

  1102. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1103. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Really Joe doesn’t trust anyone else huh?

  1104. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Horrible play by Longoria, either get 2 or take the ball home what was he thinking

  1105. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Nice lets use Hughes 2 days in a row before we play Boston.

  1106. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Stop fretting about the Red Sox, as long as we take care of our business, they’re going nowhere.

  1107. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Now no Hughes for 2 days and the sox are gonna win anyway!

  1108. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Joe wants this game, obviously.

  1109. Jinx Jinx Jinx Jinx August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Lowell with the game winner.

  1110. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    6-4

  1111. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Does anyone else feel like Hughes might be pitching just a little too much lately???

    (Betsy- chime in here)

  1112. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Also shows you how tough its going to be for Tampa to compete long term without money. Their deadline move to upgrade is a guy the Braves released for punching a door after a poor outing against the Yankees.

    Going to Hughes? That means he has no confidence in Bruney and Hughes won’t be available until Saturday against the Sox.

  1113. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Bartlett game saving catch

  1114. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Really? Hughes…then Mo?

    while I understand you play for today and not tomorrow – I’m feeling you make an exception if you have a series against the Red Sox coming up next

  1115. Mark H August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Dan Wheeler 5 pitches 3 outs well played Mr. Wheeler.

  1116. Doreen August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Personally, I was disappointed Swisher swung on ball 4, especially after working the count to his favor. But I do appreciate the HR he hit to start the inning. :)

  1117. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Red Sox had second and third nobody out. Youkilis grounded out on one pitch, and Bay also grounded out on one pitch. Pedroia scored only because Longoria didn’t throw home (he would have been out by a mile) and VMart is still at second.

    I thought the Sox always “grinded out” AB’s and did the little things right?

  1118. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    LOL @ the moss comment.

  1119. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    hat’s off to Sergio Meat-tray.

  1120. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I guess MLB.TV doesn’t want me watching the game

  1121. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Why use Youuuuse tonight? Girardi sometimes makes me scratch my head

  1122. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Rishi
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
    Really? Hughes…then Mo?

    while I understand you play for today and not tomorrow – I’m feeling you make an exception if you have a series against the Red Sox coming up next

    ***

    Obviously Girardi knows the Yankees will win a laugher tomorrow

  1123. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Hate this move using Hughes. Use Bruney and bring in Hughes if there is trouble.

  1124. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Someone oughta get in Girardi’s ear after this game. Very likely we will not have Ace, Hughes OR Mo tomorrow!

  1125. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    I agree with SJ on the Joba issue….The best thing that has happen to Chamberlain since the break is he’s not out there on the hill thinking….He gets the ball, gets the sign and throws……These were the things he wasn’t doing before, and it was costing him and the club…..Much better tempo, not only for him but for the players on the field behind him…..

  1126. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    MELKY!!!!!!

  1127. Matt August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Why is Girardi using Hughes here? He has a 3 run lead, this is pretty dumb after he threw 25 pitches last night and we have 4 in a row coming up against Boston.

    He trusts nobody enough to use them with a THREE run lead? Seriously?

    This is one of those moves that reeks of desperation. Girardi needs to show some faith in the rest of his pen in these spots so he doesn’t have to burn out Hughes and Mo.

  1128. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Vernon robbed

  1129. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Melky playing some serious D lately :)

  1130. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Wow, it sure would be nice if MLB.tv would stop showing me the blue “commercial break” screen so I could watch the game.

  1131. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    If Bruney can’t get 3 outs with a 3 run lead what use is he?

    Now Hughes is lost for at least tomorrow and probably Friday.

    Giarardi boggles my mind.

    Use Robertson for 3 outs.

    Use Melancon.

    Use Bruney.

    Girardi is no better than Torre.

  1132. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    this is only the 3rd time Hughes has pitched two days in a row.

  1133. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Hey he didn’t pitch Melancon against the anemic A’s lineup he certainly won’t be pitching him against the RS.
    Expect fatigue as the rest of the season goes on from Hughes Aceves Coke… hey it has already set in with Aceves and Coke.

  1134. CB August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Girardi has his safety blanket in the bull pen. It’s the formula.

    This is bull pen management right out of the Torre school. No different at all.

    4 guys you “trust” and that’s it.

  1135. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Thanks Angel-

    I never got to find out what you thought of the book!!

  1136. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    guys..this game is just important as tomorrows game…you play for today..not tomorrow…yanks might score 13 off smoltz tomorrow..or joba might be lit up…u just dont knw…but you do knw you are in a close game tonight

  1137. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Melky is really coming along as a player. He hardly ever has those AB’s that make you shake your head, and he seems to be getting better jumps in CF.

  1138. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Nick Green Playing left field ha

  1139. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Joe really wants these games with Toronto doesn’t he?

    Don’t blame him, but will Hughes and Mo be too tired for Boston?

  1140. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Phil Coke is NOT a dog. He’s just trying to improve his K-9 rate.

  1141. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Total bone-head move by Girardi. Even if we win, I am pretty irate.

  1142. Keith--FL August 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    hate to nitpick but this was a perfect spot to see what Melancon can do in a semi-pressure spot and get Hughes the night off before the Sox series tomorrow…if Melancon and Bruney are not used unless we’re losing or way behind how will we know what they can really do?? Maybe Bruney or Melancon for the 9th but I would not be surprised if Girardi sends out Mo…..love the small ball way we got that run last inning, Hinske is awesome, a role player you win championships with..love our bench with Hairston and Hinske!!!

  1143. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Kind of foolish to predict fatigue on pitchers.

    Much like some who complain daily about the lineups, you are rarely correct.

    He is trying to win as many games as possible.

    His thinking probably is, win the game tonight and worry about the next two days when those days come up.

    I wouldn’t have gone to Hughes myself but, I understand his lack of faith in Bruney.

  1144. MG August 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I know it’s politically correct to blame Torre for mismanaging the bullpen but he did win 4 World Series in 5 years with the same style, right?

  1145. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    “Don’t blame him, but will Hughes and Mo be too tired for Boston?”

    Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!

  1146. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.

  1147. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    yeah you play for today but tomorrow’s game is still going to happen, too. Overusing the same YOUNG relievers when its not necessary is not thinking of the big picture.

  1148. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    I agree that Bruney or Melancon should have pitched this inning. A 3-run lead should be easy enough for them to handle.

    The problem with bringing Hughes in is that he throws a lot of pitches and then you end up having to go to some with with inherited runners on base.

  1149. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Ralphie – while the game is “close”, it’s not that close, You could get away with bringing Bruney in and let him face at least 2 guys. If he puts both on you bring in someone else. But give him a chance. We have wiggle room and we have another inning to put up a run.

    Bad job by Girardi. It’s these little panic moves (or “by the book” moves) that scare me most about this season. He is going to kill this bullpen by October.

  1150. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Phil – Definitely not an OPPC member
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.

    ***

    I am agreeing with the non-OPPC dude :-)

  1151. PL August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    yea Phil

  1152. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Watch Hughes put another guy on and Girardi bring in Rivera for 4 outs again.

  1153. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    while it stinks to have to use Hughes and Rivera…

    I’ll take a win with Sergio Mitre starting ANY day of the week.

    If that’s what it takes, so be it.

    If the Yanks win the games Andy and Sergio (or their #5) are starting, forget about it…

  1154. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Wow, what was Encarncion looking at??? Nice pitch anyway

  1155. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Iced em

  1156. RS August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    That was a good pitch, just because Encarnacion wasn’t expecting it at all.

  1157. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Its a 3 run lead. Not one run.

    Use the other guys. Girardi has the brain of a goldfish.

    Bruney can’t get 3 outs? Melancon can’t? Robertson can’t?

    Bring in someone else if they get in trouble. Its just SO STUPID. Hughes up to 20 pitches already this inning.

    He’s just a moron. Plain and simple.

  1158. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Erica – I’ve long since forgotten what OPPC stood for.

  1159. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    I hope Joba chamberlain can give us 8.

  1160. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Seems like Hughes throws avg of 20-25 pitches per inning

  1161. Terry from NH August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Hughes is gonna end up throwing around 60-70 pitches in a 24 hrs span so I really thought Girardi would patch up a couple innings with Melancon,Bruney. This isn’t the way you want to lead going against the Sox tomorrow. Hopefully Joba can go 7.

  1162. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    CB
    August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    Girardi has his safety blanket in the bull pen. It’s the formula.
    This is bull pen management right out of the Torre school. No different at all.
    4 guys you “trust” and that’s it.
    ====================

    Do you believe that’s good, or bad?

  1163. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    “A game against Toronto is a win…same as one against Boston. You can’t save a guy…what if all 3 or 4 are blow outs? Then you save Mo and Hughes for nothing.”

    Agreed. But how much of a lead is enough to try to pitch someone else besides the same 4 guys?

    Down a run – Aceves.

    Up 3 runs in the 7th – coke.

    Up 3 runs in the 8th – hughes.

    Any team up by 3 runs in the 8th has around an 85% chance of winning the game, IIRC.

    Just try.

    Because you can’t have effectively a 4 man pen for the rest of the year.

  1164. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    If Joe uses Melancon or Bruney here, and they implode, it puts him in a situation of having to use for a multi-inning save for the second night in a row.

    I o.k. with this move. No one else but Phil has earned the confidence level to pitch this inning.

  1165. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Well, he’s not a moron but, I would have stayed away from Hughes here.

    I would have given Melancon the start of the inning and go batter to batter.

  1166. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I believe Mitre will get at least one more start.

    Girardi used Hughes because he wants to win the game and Hughes is the only pitcher he trusts to hold it here. He wants to go back to the Bronx as far ahead of the Sux as he can. This isn’t a night he was going to experiment for the sake of forumites who can’t understand why someone who is called up isn’t put into the game IMMEDIATELY. Once again IMO he played this right. (Oh yeah if he did experiment and got into trouble it would have burned even more pitchers, something he might now want to do before the upcoming series.)

  1167. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Maybe Joe is saving Melancon for the 9th after the Yanks score a couple more runs?

    Maybe?

  1168. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I want the ‘Hughes Rules’. Joba has his own T-shirt like that.
    Maybe we see Bruney tomorrow.

  1169. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    again, this is only the 3rd time Hughes has pitched back to back games. He most likely won’t pitch tomorrow. It’s entirely possible Girardi figures they will score a ton of runs tomorrow night against Smoltz and Joba will continue to pitch lights out.

  1170. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    *having to use Mo

  1171. CM (Be patient with the prospects) August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Girardi really shouldn’t have used Hughes,or Coke if you ask me. Save them for the series against Boston. Right now, we may have to rely heavily on Joba & AJ for the next two games.
    But, had Swisher not striked out on ball-four,then this could be a different climate.

  1172. Matt August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Hughes threw 26 pitches last night and has shown signs of fatigue in recent appearances, in which he has been missing his spots by a lot.

    Again, what is the point? You are up THREE runs, you have a ton of guys out there who could get a few outs up 3 runs (Melancon, Bruney, Robertson), heck even Coke could have gone back out there since he only threw 7 pitches last inning and has had 3 days off in a row.

    Using Hughes now is DESPERATE. This is Girardi’s problem, he manages desperately sometimes and it rubs off on his team at times in the Boston games.

    Now he will have back to back days of 20+ pitches. You couldn’t use ANYONE else and have him sitting there to use JUST IN CASE? Hughes now will certainly get 1 or 2 days off now. Who are you going to go to now if it’s a 1 run game against Boston? You never gave anyone a chance to pitch in a less pressurized version of the same spot, so how will you know who can pitch in a save/hold situation?

    Is he going to go to Melancon or Bruney with a 1 run lead against Boston when he wouldn’t go to them with a 3 run lead against Toronto? This is the hypocrisy that bothers me with his managing style, and they are overusing Hughes by pitching him in spots that he is not needed.

    So now you’ll have to go to Hughes, Robertson, etc tomorrow night if there’s a close game, with no safety blanket in Hughes and all the other options not being trusted or not having pitched in 4-5 days. This is where you have to learn how to mix in guys in the right spots.

  1173. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    “How was Joba doing when he was shaking off every catcher on the staff? Horribly.

    What has been one of the biggest changes of Joba since the ASB? He isn’t shaking off the catchers as much.

    Instead of taking shots at me, trying thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.”

    That’s not taking a shot at you, that’s you being too sensitive.

    The reason Joba is pitching better is because he’s been more accurate with his fastball. Not shaking off your catcher is important for a young pitcher. That doesn’t mean it’s the reason Joba wasn’t dominating before or why he is dominating now. Try “thinking a little. its ok. Even on a blog.”

  1174. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    something he might NOT want to do

  1175. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Let’s get some prespective, Papelbon has averaged 20 pitches an inning over his last five. Any strikeout pitcher is going to throw a lot of pitches. It’s that simple.

  1176. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Miggs – wow, if Girardi is a moron with his team in first place with that record…you are clueless. You may disagree with a move here or there…but to call a Northwestern grad a moron. To call a classy, intelligent guy a moron…I guess we just have to consider the source and disregard.

  1177. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Molina got crossed up. Called for a curveball and got a fastball.

  1178. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Nice cutter

  1179. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    I have never been this mad at Girardi ever. Seriously, this is like a bad movie. DO NOT USE OUR BEST PITCHERS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT!

  1180. Matt August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    *Bruney, Robertson

    Not Hughes again

  1181. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Brightside, if it comes down to a close game against Boston maybe Melancon gets a chance to cut his teeth in a big-time spot

  1182. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Hughes at 25 pitches for the 2nd straight night.

    Girardi should have his head examined.

  1183. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Yuuussssssssee! :D

  1184. RS August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Nice job. Now please put up another run so we don’t have to see Mo.

  1185. beef August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    nice job phil now get some rest. get ready for tomorrow.

  1186. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    “Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!”

    what does that even mean? a throwaway game?…it doesnt matter there record against them..you want to win today

  1187. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    meanwhile, Hughes got the job done again. That was a nasty cutter for the K.

  1188. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

  1189. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Youuuuuuuuse

  1190. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Love the Molina fist pump!

  1191. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Hey Phil I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think.

    You don’t like my posts too bad.

  1192. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    CB – I don’t always agree with the standard book managers use to protect 3 run leads…but I can see why they go there – the safe route that is most likely to guarantee a victory.

  1193. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    You should have Cody Ransom pitch the 9th I’m sure he’d do anything you ask him right about now.

  1194. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    we have to win tonight first.

    worry about tomorrow later.

    if we win & boston loses it is just like beating boston.

    a 2.5 game lead going into a 4 game series with boston means they have to sweep us to take first place.

    huge game here.

  1195. jennifer August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    We could lead 7-1 going into the 8th and you might not need him.

  1196. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Yanks in line to win their 3rd straight after losing 3 straight (and making tons of errors, poor baserunning, etc)

    It also looks like they’ll have a 2.5 game lead over the Sox.

    If you can’t be happy about that, my condolences.

  1197. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I would definitely buy a “Yuuussssssssee!” shirt.

    Hell, I think I’m going to have one made.

  1198. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Pepi,

    Can’t have a 4 man pen. This team is going to have to win more games.

    If you only use 4 guys in close situations/ with a lead they are going to burn out.

    Especially when 3 of the 4 are coming out of the pen for the first time in their entire careers.

    Aceves already has shown concerning issues about how he’s holding up coming out of the pen. He’s never done it before.

    Up 3 runs in the 8th is a large lead. The overwhelming probability is that they are going to win this game.

    Take some small risk and try using someone else.

    This current approach is not sustainable.

  1199. tom August 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Will we see Okimama tomorrow?

  1200. Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    The Sox don’t scare me. If you think Bruney, Robertson and Melancon were good enough to come in the 8th inning tonight, then they are good enough to come in the 8th tommorow.

  1201. Donnie - Will Meet Vernon Wells Under the O'Neill Banner August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    If ESPN shows Ortiz sitting in the dugout, chomping on gum for no adequately explained reason again, I’m going to scream. He’s not on the field. He’s a DH. There is no need to cut over to a shot of him every 15 seconds when there is a game going on.

    You gotta wonder how long it’ll take the fans to stop booing him tomorrow and this weekend.

  1202. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “Very likely tomorrow will be a throw away game, all because Joe HAD to use Hughes here! Does he not know that we are frickin’ 0-8 against that team!”

    ———-

    just like tonight was a throw away game because Mitre was starting.

    let’s throw some more games away!!!

  1203. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    “Hughes at 25 pitches for the 2nd straight night.

    Girardi should have his head examined.”

    You have a 1.5 lead on BOS, tomorrow Smoltz or Joba could pitch like crap or gems and erase the BP altogether. You worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. I’d go either Bruney or Melancon in the 9th, save Mo if I can.

  1204. IrishCarBomb August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    who is to say the yanks will even have a lead tomorrow? Gotta lock down these wins.

  1205. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Damon!

  1206. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Also why as a reliever do we really look at pitch counts??? If he was being strecthed out as a starter. Granted don’t overuse him in back to back games, but if it takes him 25 pitches to strikeout two guys and give up no runs instead of 18 to accomplish the same thing who cares????? Hughes is in the pen the rest of the year. It’s using him too much which will cause a problem.

  1207. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    GO RAYS!!!

    3 more outs. I trust Howell to get the job done.

  1208. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    It really does look like moss.

    The book – You know, I wasn’t sure I was going to like it when I first started it. She is pretty much the kind of Yankee fan that is the opposite of me, and one that I’ve never really *got* you know.. high expectations, demanding, tough – she almost came across as a *spoiled entitled* fan at the beginning. Especially the article she had published about divorcing them, although I could see where she was sorta coming from and that it was tongue-in-cheek.

    But by the end of the book when she started rethinking her type of fandom, mode of expressing herself and understanding more where others came from in how they expressed their fandom and that its okay to not treat every game as if its life and death and the be all and end all, I started appreciating her passion and dedication as a fan, and seeing it more as that than just what I saw originally which was kinda offputting.

    It was also interesting reading her interviews with the beat writers.

  1209. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Miggs – Live in your bubble…whatever makes you happy.

  1210. Pel August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    DEMON! :evil:

  1211. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    yahhhooo

  1212. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    thanks, Johnny, no need for Mo…

  1213. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    MPB Johnny Damon = REALLY AWESOME!!!! :grin:

  1214. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Now can we save Mo!

  1215. Maria August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Damon!

  1216. beef August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    wow johnnie d

  1217. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    I will reiterate. Damon is having a FABULOUS series :)

  1218. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Damon closed his eyes and pretended that was Halladay

  1219. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    yay..no mo…now bring in bruney!!!…uh oh lol

  1220. Matt August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Thank god for Damon’s HR so they don’t have to use Mo, but now Hughes will be unavailable for possibly 2 games of the Boston series. Not the smartest time to use him, especially since he could have come in and thrown a much lower number of pitches to get an out or two if someone was falling apart out there in his place rather than ANOTHER outing of 25 pitches back to back.

  1221. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    DAMON!!!!!

  1222. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    And why does Joba have better fastball command?

    He’s not shaking the catchers and working at a faster pace because of it.

    Trusting his catchers has turned around his season.

    That allows his mechanics to be tighter and that has brought back his fastball command and velocity.

    Funny thing is, that’s the best Phil has looked in a week. his secondary pitches were nasty and his fastball had better command.

  1223. Darrin August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    You people are crazy. You win the games you can.

    What if you save Coke, Hughes & Mo tonight and blow the game? Well great at least they’ll be rested for tomorrow night’s game, right? What if tomorrow night’s game is 10-1? Or it rains?

    Now with a 4 run lead you don’t use Mo – I give you that.

  1224. RS August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    It does make little sense to have brought Hughes in in the 8th inning.

    If it was a 1 run lead, or maybe even a 2 run lead, then absolutely the Yankees should bring him in to lock the game down.

    But a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, and he doesn’t trust anyone except Hughes? That’s a problem. The Yankees cannot expect to win a WS if they have 5 out of 7 relievers only pitching when the Yankees are up by 5 runs or losing.

  1225. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Then there is our lovable A Rod

  1226. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I miss anti-Matt.

  1227. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Bruney to start..and then Melancon when Bruney allows lead runner to reach

  1228. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Tricia at some point and verry soon I might add, Joe Giradi is going to have to find at least one more arm to go to….I’ll take it one step further, he should have 2 more arms that he feels good about…And their names are not Hughes, Coke , Aceves, Rivera….Just remember the 04 ALCS , the pen was dead tired and it cost the Yanks the series…..

  1229. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Prediction:

    Johnny D takes Smoltzy deep tomorrow.

  1230. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Angel-

    I agree! But I understand the whole divorcing thing. I totally broke up with the Yankees for a few days the end of last August when the reality of the season set in. Sometimes you just need a break.

    I loved that our own Pete Abe helped her out!

  1231. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Every win is important.
    Girardi is right in using Hughes.
    How do you know tomorrow will not be a laugher or a blow out?
    If the others in the bullpen are that good to protect a three run lead with two innings to go, sure they can be used in Boston game as well.
    As the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush :)
    It is time to stop whining and enjoying the game that we are going to win. Soz are losing as well.

    If things hold up as they are right now, we will go into Boston series with 2.5 games lead and even if we split the series, we will be still in first place.

  1232. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    A Rod LOL

  1233. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Hopefully, Bruney can do the job in the 9th and they won’t need Mo.

  1234. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    “You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.”

    Yep.

  1235. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Thanks again for sending that Erica, that was really such a nice thing for you to do.

  1236. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    “Funny thing is, that’s the best Phil has looked in a week. his secondary pitches were nasty and his fastball had better command.”

    ———-

    a couple of those curveballs were unhittable.

    looked good to me as well.

  1237. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Use Melancon in the 9th, if he falters for some reason Bruney is still out there. Hughes will be able to pitch again by Thursday and saves Bruney for tomorrow. I love Mark, but he hasn’t gotten enough consistent work to trust in a key spot against the Sox.

  1238. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    SJ his cutter was nasty.

  1239. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Damon wants badly to come back next season…might be a tough call.

    It wouldn’t be if they asked me, bring him back (unless he’s looking for big money).

  1240. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    “I would have given Melancon the start of the inning and go batter to batter.”

    That’s the thing. Why is going batter to batter so impossible with a three run lead.

    It’s not a one run lead where if a guy gets on base he represents the tying run. Nor is it a situation where the guy at the plate represents the go ahead run.

    Just try batter to batter. A three run lead is a good time to try it.

  1241. Fire Bud Selig August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Damon is RAKING.

  1242. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Hughes has thrown 2.2 innings over the last 6 days. Oh no!!!! Overwork!!!!

  1243. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    I predict that A Rod will get 3 hits in the Sux series….that is TOTAL for 4 games…

  1244. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Think Girardi can bring himself to use Melancon or Bruney for the 9th?

    Or is 4 runs not a big enough cushion?

    Oh wait, its not a save situation (thank god). Gotta play it by the book. Guess we’ll see Bruney.

    If it was 3 runs any chance any other pitcher besides Mo pitches the 9th? No way.

  1245. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    My hope for tomorrow:

    Joba 7 strong innings 3 H 0 ER 9 K’s

    Yanks win 10-0. :)

  1246. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    NYY626
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
    I will reiterate. Damon is having a FABULOUS series
    ****

    There were never any doubts! I predicted huge post-ASB awesomeness from MPB Johnny Damon!

  1247. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Damn we might not Melancon for another 6-7 days. I would have used him here.

  1248. RMEL August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    “You don’t know what is going to happen tomorrow. You don’t save a pitcher for a game you might not need them in. We need the win today. You use Hughes. You worry about tomorrow tomorrow.”

    —-

    Totally true….some people just don’t understand that…The NY Yankees are a win now team…the future is just that… the future

  1249. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    OK, how many relievers pitched in tight situations when the Yankees won 4 World Series?

    -Mo

    -Stanton

    -Nelson

    -Mendoza

    In ’96, of course, Mo was Nelson and Wetteland was Mo.

    And Graeme Lloyd had some good outings in middle relief but never at the end of the game.

    So why is this bullpen any different?

  1250. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Man RDM you are obsessed with Arod. How sad and stupid.

  1251. Mark H August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    You know if its a close game Friday night in the 8th inning Girardi will go to Hughes.

  1252. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots – full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    Thanks again for sending that Erica, that was really such a nice thing for you to do.

    ***

    No problem! Glad I could help out :-)

  1253. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Now who pitches???

    Come on Melancon.

  1254. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Yes, tonight’s game is important but you could say that about every game. okay so use Mo and Phil every night, even when we are trailing because they are the most likely to hold it? I say you use a “lesser” reliever when you can, 3 run lead, Phil pitched last night and Boston’s on the horizon, use Melancon he has pitched well as of late anyway.

  1255. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    RDM, that’s pretty ballsy putting your e-mail address in the tag line (if it’s legit).

    What kind of e-mails do you get?

  1256. RMEL August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Damn we might not Melancon for another 6-7 days. I would have used him here

    —-

    We are playing the Sox for 4 straight days..trust me you will see him

  1257. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Several weeks back, when the Yankees hit a bad patch, certain posters were looking into the future and trying to bring in players for next year. Some were getting rid of both Sui and Damon. At the time I said I would bring them both back. I also pointed out that players can make themselves very valuable toward the end of a season and almost unexpendable.

    I haven’t changed my mind about bringing either of them back.

  1258. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Bruney is officially buried with Robertson getting the call…

  1259. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    ROBERTSON???

  1260. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Fab Melo
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    Damon wants badly to come back next season…might be a tough call.

    ****

    You are partially right. It’s really me who badly wants him to come back next season

  1261. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Damn why not use Mark???? 4 run lead and he isn’t getting any work in????? Use him!!!

  1262. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    “It does make little sense to have brought Hughes in in the 8th inning.

    If it was a 1 run lead, or maybe even a 2 run lead, then absolutely the Yankees should bring him in to lock the game down.

    But a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, and he doesn’t trust anyone except Hughes? That’s a problem. The Yankees cannot expect to win a WS if they have 5 out of 7 relievers only pitching when the Yankees are up by 5 runs or losing.”

    Look.

    Its a logical post.

  1263. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    RDM also predicted losses to Buerhle and Halladay.

    He’s from the Jim Cramer School of Predictions.

  1264. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Robertson has some big calves!

  1265. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    O man i feel bad for Brian…He needs to get his swagger back and quick

  1266. i dress like an ump at games August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    A rod has a huge series vs. Boston
    (you heard it here first)

  1267. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    “at some point and verry soon I might add, Joe Giradi is going to have to find at least one more arm to go to….I’ll take it one step further, he should have 2 more arms that he feels good about…And their names are not Hughes, Coke , Aceves, Rivera….Just remember the 04 ALCS , the pen was dead tired and it cost the Yanks the series…..”

    Very good point.
    Those arms will be Bruney, Melancon and Marte.
    Burney is close to be effective.
    Melancon showed promise in the last three outings and will win the trust of Girardi.
    Marte, when healthy is very effective against the LH batters.

  1268. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Switching back and forth between Sox and this game.

  1269. RS August 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    “if you save Coke, Hughes & Mo tonight and blow the game?”

    I think people are just frustrated that Hughes is the only go-to guy in the 8th inning now. If only half the bullpen is trusted to protect a 3 run lead against a mediocre offense, it’s going to be hard to win a championship without guys getting overworked.

  1270. tishbi August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Mo will be in the game, hwever much Girrardi wants to avoid it.

  1271. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Melancon or Bruney could have pitched the 8th – as I said – we had a chance to score another run anyway. Hughes could have been brought in to get out of e jam.

    A 3 run lead in the 8th inning is a nice lead. And in all likelihood the Yanks are not blowing anybody out tomorrow. They rarely do. Hence the overuse of Rivera, Hughes, Coke and Aceves.

  1272. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Robertson is working his way up the bullpen food chain.

  1273. YankeeRay August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Using Hughes was fine. Bruney is 8th inning guy tomorrow if we get to that point. This was a big game to win with Boston losing as we will have a 2 1/2 game lead and we win the series and go home feeling good.
    Long season and Hughes will be back in Friday.

  1274. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    that was a great curveball thrown by Robertson

  1275. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Yeah, I could see where she was coming from with that divorcing the Yankees too. I think some of the reactions she got to that were a little harsh and a bit self-righteous, actually. It seemed tongue in cheek to me. Her battles with the Yankee FO were kinda funny too.

    It was funny when she documented her first meeting with Peter. I could totally see that happening.

  1276. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    No way the Yankees should not at least offer Damon a nice one year contract with an option or something. He is a unique player, clutch, not easy to replace as the Sox have found out. Ellsbury was and never will be close to what Damon is. The only comparable player to me is Carl Crawford who has more speed, but less power. Would love Crawford to replace Damon in LF in two years.

  1277. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    “Jim Cramer School of Predictions”

    LOL!!!

  1278. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    i would bring melancon in also with a 3 run lead.

    one person gets on yank him.

    we might be pleasantly suprised

  1279. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Trisha,

    The chances of Matsui being back is like Abreu last year. Nil.

    The DH spot will be a revolving door with a number of players next year.

    Damon? If he wants a 1 year deal for less money, its a possibility. Anything more? Highly doubtful they will commit multi-year money to Damon again. Too much age on that body even though the guy plays his butt off every night.

  1280. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Scutaro (insert rage face)

  1281. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Ok then, go D-Rob.

    We have to forgive him that Scutaro hit, only Mitre can get him out.

  1282. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Scutaro = Pain in the *beep*

  1283. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    scutaro is a nightmare

  1284. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Girardi you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1285. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    “Now who pitches???
    Come on Melancon.”

    i think to loosen things up for the red sox series giradi should let the bullpen play rock , scissors ,paper to see who pitches the ninth.

  1286. tastic August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Scutaro is reminding me of David Eckstein from the Angels, or Johnny Damon when he was with Boston

  1287. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots – full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
    Yeah, I could see where she was coming from with that divorcing the Yankees too. I think some of the reactions she got to that were a little harsh and a bit self-righteous, actually. It seemed tongue in cheek to me. Her battles with the Yankee FO were kinda funny too.
    ***

    I am still mad at Jason Zillo for not helping her out. But he redeemed himself a lot with me for HOPE week.

  1288. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    D-Rob location, location

  1289. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    NO NO NO NO NO . How would you even think of MO with Melancon and Bruney out there. Please now. Mo didn’t look great last night either so give him a day

  1290. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    I hope you get your wish, Erica. Damon is so down-to-earth and humble, it would be a damn shame if they cut bait too soon.

    He’s probably looking for his last contract, which would make things dicey. One year at a time would be the way to go, imho. I don’t know if he would be down w/that.

  1291. YankeeRay August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Robertson is getting better for sure. If he doesn’t then Marte will take his place and Ace will be our lone long man.

  1292. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Mo throwing.

    I’m shocked he wasn’t warming up before the inning started.

    One more baserunner and Mo’s in.

    Girardi is as predictable as a rooster.

  1293. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Some good things happen on my fantasy team.

    One is that I have Howell.

    One strike away…

  1294. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Sox down to their last strike….

    tying run at the plate (Ellsbury)

  1295. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Man that was a ball but im glad he out

  1296. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    one more!! Nice K!

  1297. no.27 August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    “And why does Joba have better fastball command?

    He’s not shaking the catchers and working at a faster pace because of it.

    Trusting his catchers has turned around his season.

    That allows his mechanics to be tighter and that has brought back his fastball command and velocity.”

    I said before that I agree w/ young pitchers not shaking off catchers. At the same time, I don’t think you can’t say that it definitely equates to better command and mechanics. That is stretching it a bit.

  1298. tastic August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    That was a generous strike three.

  1299. Phil - Definitely not an OPPC member August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Cashman won’t make a decision on Damon until the end of the year. A lot of time between now and then. His defense in LF is bad. He tracks balls poorly and we know his arm is substandard. I’m not sure how he fits into the mold of getting younger and more athletic…he is on the downhill portion of his career.

  1300. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    The Sox series will showcase A Rod and how bad he is in pressure situations, in pressure games, as in the last few years in the playoffs. Just watch how he does in the next 4 days.

  1301. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    J.P. Howell is pretty damn good.

  1302. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Tampa wins

  1303. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Sawks lose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1304. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Sox lose

  1305. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.

  1306. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    wooooooooow..D-Rob location man..location.

  1307. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    one more d-rob!! lets extend that divisional lead!

  1308. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Yes Tampa wins !

  1309. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    GAME!

    :D

  1310. Vader August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Finish this and it is 2.5

  1311. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Sox lose…now can the Yanks beat them one game this season, or are the Sox in their heads?

  1312. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Time to get my schadenfreude on over at SoSH.

  1313. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    When do we get a few trolls on here after the Sox just got sent packing????

  1314. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “i think to loosen things up for the red sox series giradi should let the bullpen play rock , scissors ,paper to see who pitches the ninth.”

    Coke will be easy to beat – he always does scissors. It’s just one extra finger to point with.

  1315. RMEL August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.

    give him time he will be decent not great…

  1316. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    C’mon Robertson, FINISH HIM!(street fighter reference)

  1317. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    RDM, what’s with the hardon you have for ARod?

  1318. YankeeRay August 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Alot of whining on here about Girardi. I think hes doing a good job.

    Ped Sox lose and now we are up 2 1/2

  1319. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    “Robertson velocity getting better. He will be a very good reliever for us for a long time.”

    If only he could locate he’d be Tkashi Saito

    He’s 23 or 24 I think it’s right now b/c he’s wet behind the ears.

  1320. rconn23 August 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    RDM,

    It’s pathetic how obsessed you are with A-Rod. You need help.

  1321. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Throw the hook D-Rob!

  1322. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    “Just try batter to batter. A three run lead is a good time to try it.”

    How many times we had three run leads and lost the game.
    That game where AJ had six run lead and we lost the same against SOX.
    When you are winning close it out.
    It is not like Hughes pitched two three days in a row.

  1323. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    nothing is more important than picking up a game on the rs even if it means using the entire pen

  1324. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Damon = dh/4th or 5th OF

  1325. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Excellent stretch of 2 games going into Boston series with Sox losing 2 and Yanks winning 2. The Yanks need to win 3/4 and build a cushion here.

    5 major concerns down the stretch:

    1. Girardi
    2. Over-use of the bullpen
    3. #5 starter (and consistency from the other 4)
    4. BRUTAL September schedule (with Rays, Angels and Red Sox all on there) + 7 games with Boston in August.

  1326. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    CB-

    I agree with you that having a 4 man bullpen does not seem like a very wise proposition, but what if Girardi brings in Melancon, or Bruney, and they give up a couple of singles, or worse, you will have to go to Hughes anyway.

    He’s playing the guys he has confidence in, can’t blame him for that. Torre got 4 WS Championships with that formula.

    I never played baseball, so I don’t know how pitchers feel after throwing x number of pitches in a game, but it would seem to me Girardi should know how far to push these guys.

    I too wish he would especially use Melancon more, I really like that kid, but the wins are very important in this particular stretch. Yankees could be in first place by 6 games starting next week. That could be the Division right there.

  1327. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Yankees win!

  1328. NYY626 August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    2.5! 2.5!

  1329. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    What a beautiful troika.

    Rays win

    Yanks win (I know they will)

    I just won an auction on eBay

    Also credit to the Nats who have really been doing a nice job lately despite all the trash people have talked about them!

  1330. RalphieD (OPPC) YES Radar Gun=Terrible August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    cool…the fun begins tomorrow

  1331. The Phranchise August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    I think we all know Damon is on the downswing, but they need two outfielders next year. Would rather one decent free agent and bring back Damon. Bringing Damon back givees Ajax another year and a better shot at getting Carl Crawford or someone better.

  1332. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    We need to put our foot up Boston’s you know what tomorrow. We need to show them we mean business. I’m tired of guys walking into yankee stadium “in hitting slumps” and pounding the yankee pitching.

  1333. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    the Yankee bullpen pitched 4 2/3 with one run, that’s a great job…

  1334. Jeremy August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    RDM

    Dang, can’t you wait till game 1 of the series.

  1335. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    “C’mon Robertson, FINISH HIM!(street fighter reference)”

    That’s Mortal Kombat.

  1336. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Is that A Rod shouldn’t be batting 4th. Only reason is that he gets paid $20 million a year. He is horrible w/RISP and w/runners on period. He should be in the 6th hole. The Yankees Win…the YANKEES WIN!!! Nice game…now comes a good test this season….have a good night all……

  1337. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Amazing. Pitching late in a game with a lead isn’t magic.

    Even Dave Robertson can do it.

    If he’s given a chance.

  1338. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    2.5 up in the division. Now we need 3 of 4 this weekend. At least Mo is available tomorrow.

  1339. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Thheeeeeee Yankees win, goodnight all, 2.5 up 4 game series next… exciting stuff

  1340. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    JOHNNY POSTGAME AGAIN!!!

    Two days in a row!!!!

  1341. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    What a beautiful two-channel sequence.

    We play today, we win today, etc.

    Now the fun begins.

    The Sox will leave the Bronx trailing, that is my belief.

  1342. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    I have the feeling we are definitely going to slap the crap out of the Sux. And it’s nice to have a 2.5 game margin to start the deal.

  1343. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    I have the feeling we are definitely going to slap the crap out of the Sux. And it’s nice to have a 2.5 game margin to start the deal.

  1344. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Alfredo Aceves gets the win, and Alphabet gets the loss.

  1345. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Red Sox sign Paul Byrd

    A’s sign Brett Tomko

  1346. RDM August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Ok people…just watch how he does the next 4 days…then talk to me on Monday….you’ll see…and “he had hip surgery” is no longer an excuse….nice sweep of the Jays going 5-4 on the trip…I was one off….I say 2-2 next 4 days….have a good night

  1347. Bleacher Creature P.J. August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Yankees magic number to clinch AL East: 54
    Yankees magic number to clinch playoff berth: 52

  1348. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    ““C’mon Robertson, FINISH HIM!(street fighter reference)”

    That’s Mortal Kombat.”

    My bad, was thinking about (HADOKEN!) Lol.

  1349. Tarheelyank August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Nice job Robertson. Quite a few regular posters (no names)buried him not to long ago.

  1350. Rob in Vt. August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    2 1/2 game lead….go for the jugular this weekend Yanks!

  1351. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    rays own the Sox, like the Sox own us so far….that changes starting tomorrow!!!

  1352. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    rays own the Sox, like the Sox own us so far….that changes starting tomorrow!!!

  1353. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Robertson may be moving up on the trust chain.

    They lost no ground on this roadtrip and ended up with a 5-4 record.

    Now its time to beat the Red Sox and put more distance between them and first place.

  1354. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Many including Pete predicted a 5-4 road trip to call it a success. They did it which did not look good after the first three games with White Sox.

    With Sox losing today, we are up 2.5 games.
    We should win the series against Boston and put some distance in the standings. Even a split is acceptable.

  1355. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Terrific win by the Yanks – a great bounce back series after playing so badly in Chicago. Even nicer…..Rays have swept the Sox, so we’re back to 2 1/2 games up. Good job……no, great job!

  1356. Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “Alphabet gets the loss”

    lol

    or maybe, I’d Like to Buy a Vowel, Pat gets the loss

  1357. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Interesting factoid:
    The Yankees have won three out of the four games that Sergio Mitre has started.

  1358. Al from BK August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    “Red Sox sign Paul Byrd”

    The last guy to beat us in the post-season. :(

  1359. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    BD 2.0
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
    Red Sox sign Paul Byrd
    ***

    Didn’t they do thast last year too???

  1360. YankeeRay August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Too early to play guess the line up but it will be easy tomorrow. Wish there was a way for Hinske to be in there but doubt that he would start over Swish.
    Love the team right now.

  1361. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    hopefully the Yankees give Smoltz a rude introduction to NYS, it’s possible they could score a lot of runs tomorrow night. Smoltz has already given up 6 HRs in 36 innings, that doesn’t translate to a well pitched game against the Yankees at home.

  1362. sevencostanza August 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    I think Girardi has a circle of trust like Deniro in Meet the Fockers, he probably has a diagram drawn up for most of the bullpen guys “This is the circle of trust, this is you”, whatever Yanks win can’t complain

  1363. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Al,

    Relax, he’s not Cy Young. It tells you how desperate they are for pitching.

    Penny, Smoltz, Byrd and the “Natural” Clay Buchholz. Not exactly inspiring.

  1364. 77513 August 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    David Robertson has 42 strikeouts in 30 innings. That is really incredible. He has potential to be a very good setup man in a couple of years.

  1365. BlueshirtBrawler August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I think the Yankees would be smart to bring back Damon on a one year deal because I don’t know if they will open the checkbook to sign Matt Holliday long term. Let St. Louis give him the 6 years, $100m he’ll be looking for. In my opinion, he’s not worth it.

  1366. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    CB
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    Amazing. Pitching late in a game with a lead isn’t magic.

    Even Dave Robertson can do it.

    If he’s given a chance.

    tell that to veras,farnsworth & others.

    also why not just leave mo on the bench & make bruney sweat it out.

  1367. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Sorry, Joe is a complete and utter fool for using Phil again…..and for 25 pitches? Cashman needs to set Girardi rules – completely insane. This kid’s arm is going to fall off. Even if not, he’s now lost for at least the first 2 games of the Sox series.

  1368. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    “The chances of Matsui being back is like Abreu last year. Nil.”

    SJ you know I am from the Indiana state. I won’t believe it until they show me. As far as I’m concerned Matsui will be signed.

  1369. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    The Yankees have no one in the top 50 in innings pitched for relievers, and 2 in the top 50 in appearances (Mariano is 50th, and Coke has been coming in for lefties). This idea that Joe is overusing relievers is ridiculous.

  1370. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    YankeeRay
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
    Too early to play guess the line up but it will be easy tomorrow. Wish there was a way for Hinske to be in there but doubt that he would start over Swish.
    Love the team right now.

    ****

    I am really impressed with the players off the bench tonight. Two pinch hitters = Two RBI

    Bring your “A” game for “Guess the Line Up” tomorrow. 2pm sharp!!!

    You are going for two wins in a row tomorrow

  1371. Chris August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Aceves has the knack of pitching at the right time. Now with a 7-1 record.
    Robertson gaining trust. Melancon to follow. The jury is still out on Bruney.

  1372. christine August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    lot of long sad faces on ESPN tonight :)

  1373. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Yanks beat Doc Halladay w/their 4th starter and won a game started by the Meat-tray

    AccuScore shakes its head in disbelief

  1374. Todd August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Did Sox sign Fraiser???

  1375. Benny Blanco August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    RDM
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    Is that A Rod shouldn’t be batting 4th. Only reason is that he gets paid $20 million a year. He is horrible w/RISP and w/runners on period. He should be in the 6th hole. The Yankees Win…the YANKEES WIN!!! Nice game…now comes a good test this season….have a good night all……
    ==================================

    RdM, a couple things to consider:

    1)Yankee record with AROD.

    2) Philles (arod ties the game with hr)

    3) walk off homer this year (cant remember team)

    4) First game back (baltimore and arod gives the team a 3 run lead with homer

    5) Have you been watching the yankee games this year?

  1376. Azaz August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    going to nys for the first time tomorrow. Any tips on what to do I plan on going to the museum and whatever else. Also any more details on the ALi tribute.

  1377. Vince August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Thanks again Rays. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  1378. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    “I agree with you that having a 4 man bullpen does not seem like a very wise proposition, but what if Girardi brings in Melancon, or Bruney, and they give up a couple of singles, or worse, you will have to go to Hughes anyway. ”

    Then they will complain why Girardi did not use Hughes in the first place…..

  1379. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Did they sign Abreu last year, even though you were convinced they would?

    Matsui has no place on the team next year.

    Betsy,

    Phil threw the ball better tonight than he has for a week. Forget the number of pitches. The quality of them were terrific.

    You take the win and if can’t be used until Saturday, so be it.

    They should be able to win one of these next two without Phil.

  1380. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Another interesting factoid:

    The Yankees lost three out of four games in Chicago on this road trip…but were five wins and four losses for the entire trip.

  1381. Pete is a mental case August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Pete

    Are you a mental case? Nobody ever mentioned Geronimo Berroa. You just make things up.

    You are a rap-ist. You are great at reporting, but you ra-pe this blog of its dignity, and you complain about others.

    Maybe you should walk in traffic!

  1382. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Missouri is the Show-Me state.

    Love,

    Department of Blog Accuracy.

  1383. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    CB, It’s so much easier when you relievers throw aggresive strikes….Complete opposite from what we were seeing in April & early May…

  1384. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    3) walk off homer this year (cant remember team)

    ***

    It was Minnesota. Game 2 of Walk off Weekend in May

    (Game 3 was Johnny’s walk off :lol: )

  1385. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Terrific two game series.

    The Jays had a 64% probability of winning the game yesterday with Halladay on the mound against Andy.

    Tonight the Yankees were more likley to win – but it was a 55% chance given that Mitre was on the mound and the Rzepczynski has pitched well.

    The Yankees take both games while the Sox lose both to Tampa.

    And the sox lose while really burning their pen in the process.

    This series with the sox is a very big opportunity. If they are able to go 3-1 it would be a huge step forward.

  1386. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    *can’t believe people are trying to reason with RDM*

    Its a lost cause, I promise.

  1387. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Yeah I guess with Joba vs. Smoltz you hope for a blowout tomorrow.

    At least Mo will be available.

    I just wish Girardi was a little more creative in his use of the bullpen. Maybe innovative is a better word.

    I just feel Bruney, Melancon, and Robertson are capable of a lot more than they are given the opportunity to show.

    Hughes isn’t Brett Tomko. He shouldn’t be treated as such.

  1388. christine August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Fab Melo August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    “Alphabet gets the loss”

    lol

    You mean Eye Chart

  1389. 77513 August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Next year I would resign Damon to a 1 year deal and make him the DH. Let Gardner and Melky play everyday, that will really improve the outfield defense.

  1390. Rob B August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    RDM: Is that you, Russ? The same moron who use to post on Mark Feinsand’s Mark It Down blog on MLB.com? No wonder you’re so anti-Arod. Nothing ever changes, does it.

  1391. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    angels getting spanked also.

    gavin floyd going in my fantasy against them.

  1392. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    “Sorry, Joe is a complete and utter fool for using Phil again…..and for 25 pitches? Cashman needs to set Girardi rules – completely insane. This kid’s arm is going to fall off. Even if not, he’s now lost for at least the first 2 games of the Sox series.”

    He’ll likely miss one game. End of the night Yuuussse gave us a 2.5 lead to mess around with, now if they lose 4 games Sox can only take a 1 game lead.

  1393. SJ44 August 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    RDM is obsessed with ARod.

    He’s probably ticked off that ARod didn’t give an autograph after staking out his apt.

    That happened with one guy a few years ago and he want on an internet ramapage trashing him on every blog.

    Perhaps its the same guy back again.

    He was strangly absent last night when ARod delivered against Doc.

    Some folks just love hating on players. Its their turn on in life.

  1394. rconn23 August 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    SJ,

    Would have gone with “The Chosen One” Clay Buchholz. :)

    Price was spotting his fastball beautifully tonight. Completely overmatched several Red Sox batters.
    Made one mistake to Bay and Martinez hit a good pitch.

  1395. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Those WB Mason commercials are so creepy

  1396. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    Yeah I guess with Joba vs. Smoltz you hope for a blowout tomorrow.

    At least Mo will be available.

    I just wish Girardi was a little more creative in his use of the bullpen. Maybe innovative is a better word.

    ***
    The only problem with that argument is that if Girardi got creative and failed- there would be a lynch mob. The guy can’t win

    If he uses Hughes tonight, he is using Hughes too much
    If he puts in Bruney and it doesn’t work- Bruney sucks and why didn’t he use Hughes??

  1397. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    “lot of long sad faces on ESPN tonight”

    Awww……..there’s always next year.

  1398. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Betsy, this was only the 3rd time Hughes has pitched 2 times in a row, he’ll be fine. Like SJ said, he threw the ball really well tonight, better than last night.

    I doubt he pithces tomorrow and he’ll be fine for the rest of the Sox series. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Yankees win easily tomorrow, Smoltz won’t be shutting them down.

  1399. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    losing masterson is going to hurt the rs.

  1400. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Betsy I agree completely with your 10:26 post.

  1401. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    Brett Tomko signs with the Oakland A’s.

    If NYY has a chance to get a pitcher this winter, a good under the radar type to get would be Brian Tallett. He can spot start, close, short relief or long relief. He’s left handed and would do well off of that carpet.

  1402. randy l. August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    nice night of baseball.

    great way to get ready for the red sox .

    getting a win when it wasn’t expected.

  1403. pat August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Alex last night and Matsui tonight both looked like dead ducks at home but both runs scored.

    Is Barajas known for not “fielding” his position well?

  1404. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “The Yankees have no one in the top 50 in innings pitched for relievers, and 2 in the top 50 in appearances ”

    And aggregate bull pen statistics are a valid way of assessing the intensity of yankee bull pen usage how?

    Hughes, Aceves, Robertson, and Melancon weren’t even on the team to start the season. Aceves and Bruney were also hurt.

    Aggregate bull pen stats related to workload are meaningless when you’ve overhauled 80% of your pen inside of the season.

    Aceves has already shown concerning signs of wear on his shoulder. Bruney earlier in the year was being used a lot and then went on the DL with an elbow injury.

    You can’t have a 4 man pen from July to October.

  1405. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “Amazing. Pitching late in a game with a lead isn’t magic.

    Even Dave Robertson can do it.

    If he’s given a chance.”

    I can not beleive how one can make a statement like this having watched how Fransworth, Veras and even Robertson and Melancon blew leads in the past.
    Amazing how a little hatred for Girardi makes people write things like this.

  1406. 77513 August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Hughes only pitched 1 inning, it is not Girardi fault that Hughes keeps throwing too many pitches. You gained 1 game on the red sox hopefully Joba pitches well and the lineup destroys Smoltz.

  1407. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “Interesting factoid:
    The Yankees have won three out of the four games that Sergio Mitre has started.”

    ;)

  1408. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    He’s always been obsessed with A-Rod, SJ.

    He used to troll Mark Feinsand’s blog a couple of years ago when I posted there. I thought he’d finally had a bridge fall on him when he disappeared. No such luck, apparently.

  1409. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Erica it was a 3 run lead.

    That’s my beef.

    3 runs gives you some margin for error.

    You can give someone else a shot to get 3 outs there.

  1410. Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Deal of the night!
    We signed Russ Ortiz! WOW!

  1411. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    I still don’t agree with using Youuuuuse tonight with a 3 run lead, but whatever. It’s done.

    Bring on the Red Sox!

  1412. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Any of you folks see Prince Fielder go ballistic in front of the Dodger clubhouse?

    The guy has some serious anger issues.

  1413. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    “I can not beleive how one can make a statement like this having watched how Fransworth, Veras and even Robertson and Melancon blew leads in the past.”

    Farnsworth and Veras were bad in all kinds of situations, not just late in games with leads.

  1414. jpb1973 August 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    losing masterson is going to hurt the rs.

    —————————————–

    I agree!!! Getting Victor Martinez wasn’t a freebie.

  1415. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Kroenke # 5 SP? or do we give Mitre another shot?

  1416. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Yankee Trader August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Deal of the night!
    We signed Russ Ortiz! WOW!

    Gatta love it when the twitter says we signed him for minor league depth

  1417. I Live In A Pineapple Under The Sea August 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    If Joe brings in Bruney and he craps the bed, what does everyone say then?

    Let it go. Be happy with the win.

  1418. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    “Nick in SF
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
    Missouri is the Show-Me state.
    Love,
    Department of Blog Accuracy.”

    you are correct sir.
    Indiana is A Hoosier state.

  1419. djsunyc August 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    jeez, 2nd guessing the manager of a 60+ win team…lol.

    if hughes didn’t pitch tonight, he possibly would’ve been avaiable for 3 of the sox games. now he’s available for 2. not the end of the world folks…

    here’s the key thing tonight, boston was losing, we were winning – pitching hughes tonight to win is just as big as pitching him vs. the redsox to go up a game.

  1420. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Flash sounds like he wants to beat up Bob :lol:

  1421. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Ok, I’ve calmed down, lol. I’m sure Phil’s arm will be fine…….though I think Joe for some reason is completely unaware that Phil has never pitched in relief before this season (not counting the 2007 ALDS) and that he may need to be careful with him. I’m more annoyed that he is not available for tomorrow and probably Friday. In general, I agree that you go for the win when you can, but here? Dumb.

  1422. I Live In A Pineapple Under The Sea August 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    I’ll take ‘the rapists’ for $200, Alex.

  1423. Erica - always OPPC August 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    CB
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
    “The Yankees have no one in the top 50 in innings pitched for relievers, and 2 in the top 50 in appearances ”

    And aggregate bull pen statistics are a valid way of assessing the intensity of yankee bull pen usage how?

    Hughes, Aceves, Robertson, and Melancon weren’t even on the team to start the season. Aceves and Bruney were also hurt.

    ****

    This is 100% correct. The only current members of the bullpen on the original 25 man roster are Coke, Rivera and Bruney (who missed significant time)

    The others were- Alby (up and down), Marte (DL), Edwar Ramierez (Umm- somewhere else), Veras (DFA)

  1424. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    SJ, really – my promise not to worry so much is not bearing much fruit. I’m always finding something to be upset about – which stinks because there’s a lot to be happy about. Ok, that is it for the negative posts tonight. I’m really happy with the win and with the team – just a very good road trip (too bad about the blip in Chicago, but that wasn’t the real Yankees)

  1425. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    “Amazing how a little hatred for Girardi makes people write things like this.”

    It’s laughable that you equate any disagreement with Girardi with “hatred.” What an absurd, ridiculously emotional hyper-reaction.

    Melodramatic, are we?

    It’s baseball. He’s a manager. Get over it.

    You treat him like he’s the Great Leader whose every move should be followed without any questioning at all.

  1426. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    RDM = Selena Roberts ?

  1427. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    On Mitre: “I think he did a pretty good job”…

    uh?

  1428. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    # BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    RDM = Selena Roberts ?

    I knew it was her

  1429. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    “Any of you folks see Prince Fielder go ballistic in front of the Dodger clubhouse?

    The guy has some serious anger issues.”

    ———-

    who cares… he should have been angry (but he should have just charged the mound in the first place)

    he takes most of his anger out on the baseball anyway.

  1430. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    How about this instead, CB.

    Melancon has been up and down, and Bruney was on the DL, so I’m going to leave them out. All the other pitchers have had their workload spread pretty evenly among them, with Aceves acting as the long man throwing his numbers off a bit.

    Coke has no month with less than 9.2 innings, and none with more than 12.2.
    Hughes has two full months as a reliever- 13 IP and 14.2 IP.
    Aceves has been between 13 and 19 innings, with a spot start and a 4 inning relief stint throwing things off a bit.
    Robertson 2 full months as reliever- 10 innings and 11 innings.
    MO- 9.2, 11, 11, 11.2.

    Seems like pretty consistent usage, with no one throwing excessive amounts. People need to chill out about this.

  1431. #23 Hitman August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    It sucks we burned our bullpen a bit. But who didn’t think the bullpen was gonna get a lot of work tonight with Mitre pitching??

  1432. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    poor Francona

    I’ve seen too many of this postgames where he has to answer the same question….

    “Terry, what went wrong tonight?”

    I laugh, but Francona is aging quickly this season.

  1433. Carl August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    On Mitre: “I think he did a pretty good job”…

    uh?

    You know how Joe G is. He doesn’t seem to criticize his players in public for some reason.

  1434. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    So next season Matsui might be an Asian Hoosier?

  1435. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    watching girardi on yes.

    he is a very smart baseball man.

  1436. raymagnetic August 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    “Let it go. Be happy with the win.”

    Be happy that the team won? That’s a novel concept.

  1437. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    “RDM = Selena Roberts ?”

    I always figured it was “Real Depressed Madonna”

  1438. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Jason Bay hurt.

    Nick Green had to go to the OF.

    I forgot to mention that :)

  1439. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Does Alex’s shirt look big at the neck? I mean, he can get a shirt that fits, right?

  1440. RS August 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    “The Yankees have won three out of the four games that Sergio Mitre has started.”

    I said it even after his last start…the Yankees have a better winning % when Mitre is on the mound than when CC is pitching.

  1441. rm August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Let See the Red Sox have Jed Lowrie an Nick Green playing SS. Codey Ransom looks like an upgrade to me

  1442. Pepitone August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    BD 2.0 – “who cares… he should have been angry (but he should have just charged the mound in the first place)”
    ================

    Yeah, sure who cares if the guy bashes his arm against the clubhouse door, or gets into a scrap with security, or some Dodger players, then gets hurt and is out for the season with a major injury.

    Yeah, who cares.

  1443. rconn23 August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Francona was pretty grim-faced about Bay’s injury on NESN just now.

  1444. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    On Mitre: “I think he did a pretty good job”…

    if we lose he did a terrible job??

  1445. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Easy mistake. All those states run together in my mind.
    There is the East Coast.
    There is the West Coast.
    Everything else is America’s Heartland.

  1446. PL August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    rm August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Let See the Red Sox have Jed Lowrie an Nick Green playing SS. Codey Ransom looks like an upgrade to me

    If he did sign there is no doubt in my mind he would kill us….Nick Green would give him all the keys to success.

  1447. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    “I can not beleive how one can make a statement like this having watched how Fransworth, Veras and even Robertson and Melancon blew leads in the past.”

    BTW this is an absolute straw man argument.

    This is a great example of a fallacy by conflation.

    What in the heck do Kyle Farnsworth or Veras have to do with any other single individual who is in the pen right now?

    Nothing.

    You are trying to somehow equate all 4 of those players, knowing of course that both Farnsworthe and Veras are awful.

    It’s like guilt by association because they all happen to have been Yankee relievers.

    It’s nonsense.

    They aren’t on the team. They have nothing to do with the current situation.

  1448. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    “Yeah, sure who cares if the guy bashes his arm against the clubhouse door, or gets into a scrap with security, or some Dodger players, then gets hurt and is out for the season with a major injury.

    Yeah, who cares.”

    ———

    come over here and I’ll throw a baseball as hard as I can at you.

    if you get angry, does it mean you have “Serious anger issues” ?

    until somebody intentionally throws a hard object at you at 90mph, you prob shouldn’t criticize others.

  1449. bru August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    bay got hurt??????

  1450. Noreaster August 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Very fun game. Let’s take the next series and push the Sox 4.5 back! The pitching matchups favor us except for the Beckett start, and I’ll still give even odds on AJ.

  1451. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Miggs, I still am inclined to say that Phil should not have pitched, but others have made good points, so I’m willing to be swayed.

    Tex – I love how he just told Kim that the media needs to realize that there are 162 games and the players just don’t get too high or low over one game. I’d rather them take that attitude about the Sox rather than putting the pressure on them to win the series outright or at least split.

  1452. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    bru,

    well, Bay has been having hamstring issues.

    I’m guessing it acted up but there’s no official report.

    He could be back tomorrow but I’d be a little surprised if he is.

  1453. Ross August 5th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    “I think Girardi has a circle of trust like Deniro in Meet the Fockers, he probably has a diagram drawn up for most of the bullpen guys “This is the circle of trust, this is you””

    Um, do you remember Torre? Find an arm and ride him into the ground? At least Girardi is thoughful enough to include multiple set-up men in his circle. Girardi’s bullpen management has been, in my opinion, the most visible upgrade on Torre.

  1454. CB August 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    “Coke has no month with less than 9.2 innings, and none with more than 12.2.
    Hughes has two full months as a reliever- 13 IP and 14.2 IP.
    Aceves has been between 13 and 19 innings, with a spot start and a 4 inning relief stint throwing things off a bit.
    Robertson 2 full months as reliever- 10 innings and 11 innings.
    MO- 9.2, 11, 11, 11.2.”

    That’s much more accurate.

    But I do disagree with you that innings alone are the best way to assess bull pen workload.

    You have to factor in appearances as that is a lot of the stress on a bull pen arm. That’s what dictates how often they have to warm up and stretch out.

    Coke’s innings pitched do not reflect accurately his workload. He has the third most appearances of any pitcher in the AL.

    And one last thing to consider – Coke, hughes, and Aceves have never been relievers before. This is new to them and to their arms.

    You can’t just assume that they are normal bull pen pitchers used to normal patters of wear and tear.

    Especially with hughes – who is a guy the franchise is going to be building around for years to come, hopefully.

  1455. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Swishy’s interview preeched the team’s moto is amnesia :lol:

  1456. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    I will say, and I can’t believe it’s come to this, that if it came down to a choice between Bruney or Melancon, I would have chosen Melancon.

  1457. MG August 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    In 1996 the Yankees bullpen had the following innings:
    Wettleland-73
    Mo- 107
    Wickman- 79
    Nelson- 74

    The next highest number of innings was Jim Mecir (remember him) with 40

    this year, in about 2/3 of the season, here is the current workload for the bullpen:

    Mo- 46 (projects to 69 for full season)
    Hughes-64 (includes all the starts, he did pitch in minors also)
    Coke-43 (projects to 64)
    Aceves-48 (projects to 72)

    This seems like a pretty close comparison to me.

    The Sox’ relievers have similar innings, I don’t see where the Yankees are misusing anyone outside of the norm of the modern bullpen.

  1458. m August 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Nice bounceback series by the Yankees. They really bore down and got the job done. Good job by the pitching (yes, that includes Sergio). Relative to his last few starts, he did do a “pretty good job”.

    Couple of Red Sox items, someone wrote here yesterday that Bay went on the DL. Was that false information? So, he injured himself early in the game yesterday, attempted to play today, and had to be subbed out?

    And Ortiz. Oh, boy. I read that he’s still waiting for the union to give him more info. He promised to share info, including what he tested positive for, with the Red Sox and the public. Is he serious? Still feigning ignorance? Or is this his way of buying time so the story loses steam?

  1459. Trevor August 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    The media is making as if the ALCS is coming up. To the players it’s just another series.

  1460. I Live In A Pineapple Under The Sea August 5th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    I would love to see Schmidt hit Fielder right here.

  1461. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    A lot of offense between Williamsport and Staten Island…11 runs and 19 hits for Staten Island, 8 runs and 15 hits for Williamsport.

    Higashioka was 2-6 with 3 doubles and 3 RBI. Medchill was 3-6 with a homer, triple, stolen base and 4 RBI. Deangelo Mack was 2-4 with a double.

  1462. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    MG,

    interesting stats.

    I guess the only difference is one CB has mentioned – Phil and Aceves are starters turned relievers.

    It may mean nothing but it could affect them.

    who knows… as long as it’s working and it’s not clear abuse, go for it.

  1463. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    CB, do you think that Cash should step in and implement Hughes rules? Or, let me ask this…….do you think he’s already set guidelines for Joe and how he uses Phil?

  1464. Mo August 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Thatls fair CB. But honestly, that isn’t stuff we can gauge feom our couches. Joe needs to work closely with his relievers to see how they feel in their new role.

  1465. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    m,

    Bay didn’t go on the DL. I think he missed several games with a bad hamstring.

    Ortiz is a phony who is only making things worse for himself by lying.

    I’m hoping he lies about it so we can see if the government will give him the Clemens treatment or if that is reserved strictly for Yankee players.

  1466. MG August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    I agree on the transition to the ‘pen, it’s something that has to be watched carefully. At the same time, maybe the Yankees win 5 or 6 out of 7 vs. the Sox in August and open a 7 game lead with only 35 games left, at that time you can be much more conservative with appearances.

  1467. Ross August 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Honestly, as long as Girardi isn’t Proctoring, Quantrilling, or Gordonizing our best guys, those innings look fine to me.

    Besides, the more innings Phil gets, the better. I doubt the Yankees have given up on him as a starter, indeed they might really need him with the holes in the rotation to fill next year.

  1468. pat August 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    m

    Bay sat out 2 days with a hamstring but wasn’t on the DL.

    The union says they don’t know what the guys tested positive for just that they did. Ortiz supposedly is petitioning the court to find out.

    Wouldn’t want to admit to something they didn’t know he used or admit to using something and then it comes out it was something else.

  1469. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    m,

    I loved this line from the Bill Simmons radio show.

    something to the effect of:

    “David Ortiz trying to uncover his steroid use, is like OJ Simpson, who is still trying to find the real murderer…. on the golf course”

  1470. Dr. Cox August 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Thank you Rays.

    2 up for Yanks, 2 Down for Sox heading into Baseball Armageddon.

    I would leave to see the “Boston Massacre Tre”

    Remember the summer of 2006 when the Yankees when into Fenway for a 5 game series and DEMOLISHED them. It was a 4 game set and then a make up from a past rain out. That is what needs to be done.

    I mean Ill take a split, but I would love it. LOVES IT.

  1471. IrishCarBomb August 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Hughes is hardly being overused. he is a late inning set up guy. they should be able to pitch 2 days in a row.

  1472. MG August 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    my last post for the evening, which should make at least a few of you happy :)

    I’m guessing Cashman and Girardi have had more than one conversation about Hughes since he’s been in the ‘pen and I would imagine Cashman made sure Girardi understands that Hughes blowing out his arm would not go over well in the front office.

  1473. Jordan August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    QUESTION: I’m considering buying bleacher seats for tomorrow nights game. They would be in section 237, which is behind left field bullpen. Yankee website says between sections 201 and 238 there is obstructed view.
    Does anyone know exactly how obstructed and what that means?
    I would really appreciate any input, as I don’t want to inadvertently buy terrible seats for a great matchup.
    Thanks!

  1474. Brandon... I'M AWESOME ! SOMEBODY FIND ME THE REAL CC SABATHIA !!!! August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    “Higashioka was 2-6 with 3 doubles and 3 RBI. Medchill was 3-6 with a homer, triple, stolen base and 4 RBI. Deangelo Mack was 2-4 with a double.”

    I’m rooting for those 3, especially Higa and Mack

  1475. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    MG – I’ve never seen worse logic implied….

    You forget that Both Hughes and Aceves were called up midway through. Each of those guys, since becoming the 7th and 8th inning guys, have been overused. Mostly because the Yanks are always in games (and rarely blow teams out).

    But they are beingoverused. Tonight Bruney could have pitched the 8th. If you don’t see it then you aren’t paying attention.

  1476. 77513 August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    MG
    August 5th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
    In 1996 the Yankees bullpen had the following innings:
    Wettleland-73
    Mo- 107
    Wickman- 79
    Nelson- 74

    The next highest number of innings was Jim Mecir (remember him) with 40

    this year, in about 2/3 of the season, here is the current workload for the bullpen:

    Mo- 46 (projects to 69 for full season)
    Hughes-64 (includes all the starts, he did pitch in minors also)
    Coke-43 (projects to 64)
    Aceves-48 (projects to 72)

    This seems like a pretty close comparison to me.

    The Sox’ relievers have similar innings, I don’t see where the Yankees are misusing anyone outside of the norm of the modern bullpen.

    —————————————–

    Aceves just had 4 days off Coke just had 3 days off. Coke only twice this season has pitched 3 days in a row. Hughes has thrown 3.2 innings in the last 6 days. I dont see they are being overworked. Pitching back to back days is pretty standard for a bullpen, if they cant pitch back to back then they cant be relievers.

  1477. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    pat,

    I thought when ARod got exposed as being on the list, that the government was waiting for his answers. If he lied about what he used, they may have summoned him and opened an investigation.

    I could be wrong…

  1478. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    For Tampa, an 11-6 win. Romine was 2-4 with 2 RBI and a stolen base (10), Laird was 2-5 with 2 RBI.

    Charleston was shut out again, 1-0, only 3 hits. Heredia pitched 5.2 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 7 strikeouts.

  1479. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Dr Cox,

    I still have the newspaper clippings from that 5-game sweep.

  1480. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Jordan – put it this way….

    from certain rows/seats, not only are they obstructed but you cannot even see first base!

  1481. Rose August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Bring on the Red Sox. Think Yanks will take 3 of 4. Like Swisher said this is a different team now.

  1482. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Green Beret –

    No offense – but no one gives a damn about the minor leagues.

    As you see from Mitre, it doesn’t matter.

    When they are called up in a few years we’ll check back with you.

    Pay attention to what counts.

  1483. pat August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    “Higashioka was 2-6 with 3 doubles and 3 RBI.

    ????

  1484. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    “David Ortiz trying to uncover his steroid use, is like OJ Simpson, who is still trying to find the real murderer…. on the golf course”

    he stole that from Letterman. Simmons is a funny guy, but that’s from a Letterman top 10 (Least Popular Christmas Carols):

    http://www.kraftmstr.com/christmas/humor/10-7.html

  1485. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Irish car…

    Hughes is a setup guy and does go 2 in a row. That’s just the problem. He went last night and tonight. In all likelihood he will be needed tomorrow in what I consider a HUGE game. Can he go 3 in a row? And be effective?

  1486. MG August 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Evan, coming from you, I consider your criticism a compliment, thanks.

  1487. Dr. Cox August 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    “Dr Cox,
    I still have the newspaper clippings from that 5-game sweep.”

    I remember every moment of that sweep. Where I was, who I was with, etc etc.

    LETS DO IT AGAIN!

  1488. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Letterman also had this absolutely hilarious O.J.-related Top 10:

    http://lateshow.cbs.com/lateni.....0530.phtml

  1489. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    A lot of us care about the minor leagues and what’s going on down there.

    Aren’t you the guy who’s still blabbering about making Joba a reliever? My apologies if that’s a different Evan.

  1490. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Green Beret –

    No offense – but no one gives a damn about the minor leagues.

    As you see from Mitre, it doesn’t matter.

    When they are called up in a few years we’ll check back with you.

    Pay attention to what counts.

    =============================

    No offense, but some of us DO like the updates on what is going on in the minor leagues. I know I do.

    Thanks for the updates GB7

  1491. pat August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    BD

    Selena reported what Alex tested positive for. He just admitted to what she said.

    Nobody gave Ortiz the Cliff Notes so he has to find the info himself.

  1492. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    pat
    August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    “Higashioka was 2-6 with 3 doubles and 3 RBI.

    ????

    ————————————————————

    It was a typo. What do you want from me? I spelled Higashioka’s name correctly. He was 2-5 with 2 doubles.

  1493. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    GB, thanks for the updates! By the way, when you babysit your great-grandtwins, will you be tweeting us updates?

  1494. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    “Did they sign Abreu last year, even though you were convinced they would?”

    No SJ, nor did they bring in a CF from the outside, the way you were convinced they were going to do before the season started. So you see, you call isn’t always on.

    Again, I am saying you have this one wrong. We can wait and see, kay? That’s it!

    Girardi had it right IMO. Mitre DID do a pretty good job. I missed the postgame because I had to run out so didn’t get to watch Joe or hear exactly what he said. (I’ll catch it later online.) But any observer of Girardi should know that it takes him a heck of a lot longer to give up on a player than it does people on this blog. That should go without saying! :lol:

    In any event, only someone looking for problems wouldn’t be feeling pretty happy right now. However, I think those people do exist. So if you feel the need to overanalyze life tonight, have at!

    ;)

  1495. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Not a problem MG. If you think your logic makes sense your an idiot. Plain and simple.

    Both of those guys were called up midway thru season. Which means they have not pitched 2/3 a season which means your projections are way off base. They pitched those innings in half a season so multiply the current innings by 2 (not 1.5) which is what you did.

    And the point, anyway, is that these guys are being overused. Aceves was tired for 2 weeks. And we still need to be careful with Hughes. I am all for winning every game that is in front of you but tonight was a night where Bruney (whom I dislike a great deal) could have been given a shot. A 3 run lead was large enough for him.

  1496. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Evan D.
    August 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
    Green Beret –

    No offense – but no one gives a damn about the minor leagues.

    As you see from Mitre, it doesn’t matter.

    When they are called up in a few years we’ll check back with you.

    Pay attention to what counts.

    ————————————————————

    Don’t take this the wrong way, Eva, but, nobody cares what you like. Don’t read it.

    I didn’t make a typo on your name. Just so you know.

  1497. m August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    thanks, pat & BD2.0.

    Brandon, lol. The nickname you gave Higashioka is another, more common Japanese surname.

    If you guys have time, you should check out the audio of Leiter’s appearance on Dan Patrick. I guess he’s the regular baseball guy for DP now, pretty presigious gig. Anyway, he explained what was not legal, they took the test. But because of the BALCO case they didn’t destroy the results. I don’t know if that’s news, but I’ve seen plenty of people ask, “why weren’t the results destroyed?!”

    He also talked about how teammates appreciate it when pitchers protect their players. Says he hates that that part of the game has been taken away. Says above the head is a no-no. And unsolicited, he brought up Joba. He said if you’re not careful you could get a reputation and even an unintentional pitch will be looked at badly.

    Regarding Prince, he was right to be made when he got plunked in the 9th inning of a blowout. But totally wrong to go to the Dodgers clubhouse. It should be taken care of on the field. I hope he gets a huge punishment.

  1498. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Evan D,

    many of us like GB7′s minor league updates.

    it’s cool if you don’t, but please don’t say “no one” because it’s not true.

  1499. CB August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    “But honestly, that isn’t stuff we can gauge feom our couches. Joe needs to work closely with his relievers to see how they feel in their new role.”

    I agree with that. There’s only so much insight any fan can have on these issues.

    That said, in any meaningful game, the yankees functionally have a 4 man bull pen.

    There is no way that is not going to be a problem.

    It’s past the trade deadline. They are not going to get some great relief arm in here. They will find at best some marginal guy.

    So what they have is what they have in the pen.

    My concern is not the near term past or short term future.

    It is the strategic issue of winning the world series. And that involves more than the short term perspective of winning the next game.

    Pat M has said this several times and he’s right – a big part of the why the team collapsed in Boston in 2004 was because the pen was dead tired by the end of the year.

    I might be completely wrong, but I don’t see how you can only have 4 guys pitching in close situations. I don’t. By the end of the year you are risking them having significant cummuulative wear.

    Becuase there isn’t go to be a Huston Street coming on board, you have to plan now on how the risk of a pen/ staff with very littel remaining depth will not become worn out by the playoffs.

    And I personally think it’s a real concern that the three main non-mo relievers are going to have almost no clue on how to personally pace themselves as relievers becuase none of the three have every done it before.

    They need to spread out the load more – 4 guys are not going to hold up. It’s not a short term workload issue. It’s a long term strategic issue.

    Winning tactical battles is critical, but not if it comes at the expense of strategic gains.

    And I’m concerned that if they don’t start getting melancon, bruney or robertson more work and more “trust” in close games these tactical victories in pen usage are going to wind up leading to an inexperienced pen collapsing late in the season.

    With a 3 runs lead in the 8th the yankees had an 80-85% chance of winning the game.

    If you’re odds of winning are that high would it have really been that big a risk to go batter to batter with Roberson or Melancon or Bruney in the 8th?

    It worked in the 9th.

  1500. trisha - OPPC lifetime member with ice water in her veins! August 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Also, I think that was a Miggs imposter tonight. Miggs is pretty level headed and doesn’t trash everything in his sight when things don’t go his way. It appears tonight’s Miggs was spinning out of control. And you know that we do have a Miggs imposter.

  1501. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    S.A – why do you care so much about the minors?

    1. It doesn’t have an effect on the 2009 Yankees.
    2. It doesn’t translate to success in the majors (ask Mitre and Kei Igawa).

  1502. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    pat,

    thanks…. I’m curious how Selena knew what he tested positive for if it wasn’t part of “the list”

    if that’s the case, someone in MLB must have recorded what the players tested positive for, right?

  1503. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Betsy
    August 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
    GB, thanks for the updates! By the way, when you babysit your great-grandtwins, will you be tweeting us updates?

    ————————————————————

    Are you kidding? I can’t even whistle. I’ll have enough trouble making sure that I take the trash out and burp the kids. Hate to mix that up.

    And, you’re most welcome on the updates.

  1504. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Evan D,

    if for nothing else, it’s nice to know which minor leaguers are moving up in the org.

    It’s nice to know who guys are when Pete reports that “so and so was called up today”

    It may be overkill for the average fan, but most of the bloggers here are a little more interested in the Yanks than the avg fan.

  1505. Rishi August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    NickSwisher: Big road trip for us. Even bigger series at home. Need all the support we can get. Let’s get these guys

  1506. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Good one Greenberet7. Introduce yourself tomorrow night. I’m in section 234.

  1507. xyz August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    ah, the classic “your an idiot”

    does it get more ironic than that?

    I say no.

  1508. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    S.A., you’re most welcome. Not much happened with the rest of the kids. A few had some hits, but, right now, those are the main ones that interest most.

  1509. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    BD – please don’t call me an average fan. I watch a minimum of 125 games a year and go to about 25-30 games depending on my work schedule.

    I’m a die hard as many on this blog are.

    I just recognize that when guys like Anthony Claggett are called up – I don’t get excited. A. He wasn’t going to pitch unless it was a blowout. B. Most of these guys stink anyway and will not contribute. C. I know who Anthony Claggett is because he was the guy who gave up about 9 runs ro Cleveland earlier this year.I don’t need to hear his minor league #’s.

  1510. Uncle Ellsworth August 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Evan Many people care about minors’ updates.

    not enough to complain about tohight?

  1511. miggs August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    No Trish it was me.

    Girardi set me off tonight with Hughes’ usage.

    I got a little hot under the collar but I’m better now.

  1512. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Secton 234? Why not under the Mark Newman banner?

  1513. Tom in N.J. August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    GB, keep the updates comming.

    If anything, it’s always good sport to see people irrationally become unhinged because of them.

  1514. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Maybe Evan is right. Why should we care about the minors.
    What are these minor leagues anyways?

    Have any current Yankee players ever played in these so called minor leagues?

    What? Seriously! They all have?

  1515. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    How come no one talks about Kei Igawa’s numbers? He is probably the best AAA pitcher on our staff, no?

    His name is NEVER mentioned here. Talk about the “kids” like we are parents of a bunch of 5th graders.

    99% of the kids are never going to play for the NY Yankees major league team. Lets focus on those that are here for 2009 and have a major impact on our major league team’s success.

  1516. stuart August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    I thought Mitre pitched decent. he hung a pitch to Lind the other hits were basically ground ball hits…

    aceves is 7 and 1…

    joba win tommorrow and all is well in yankee land.

    send down clagget and call up wither Pena or Duncan.. Hinske nice sac fly they had to bring in the lefty pinch hit because ethey had zero righties on the bench…

  1517. CB August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    “No offense – but no one gives a damn about the minor leagues.”

    No offense – but no one gives a damn about what you have to say.

    So speak for yourself.

    The minor leagues are a huge source of interest for many people on this blog.

    Many of us appreciate the time GB7 takes to keep us uptodate.

    I can’t remember you posting here before. So before you start telling other people what they should or shouldn’t be posting why don’t you take your own advice and mind your own business.

  1518. Dr. Cox August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    “No offense, but some of us DO like the updates on what is going on in the minor leagues. I know I do.
    Thanks for the updates GB7″

    I would say the majority, a heavy majority of the blog LOVES hearing about minor league updates. Thats what separates Yankee fans from the rest of baseball. We care about every aspect of the organization from the top down.

    I remember back in 06 and 07 Updates on a guy named….Joba Chamberlain. Minor Leagues are like a box of chocolates….

    So dont worry about that d00sh, GB7. Keep it up.

  1519. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    S.A – why do you care so much about the minors?

    1. It doesn’t have an effect on the 2009 Yankees.
    2. It doesn’t translate to success in the majors (ask Mitre and Kei Igawa).

    ==================

    Are you for real? So I shouldn’t care at all about what goes on in the yankee minors? :roll:

    Guess what, I wanna hear what’s going on down there, ya know just for the heck of it.
    GB7 and other are kind enough to provide updates and I appreciate that. If you don’t, god bless and ignore them.

  1520. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Should all be worried more than Hughes is probably unavailable tomorrow night in a big game bc Joe “Panic” Girardi felt that a 3 run lead was not large enough to give Bruney a chance to pitch (and probably give up only 1 run).

  1521. S.A.--Serenity Now August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    S.A., you’re most welcome. Not much happened with the rest of the kids. A few had some hits, but, right now, those are the main ones that interest most.

    ===============

    Thanks again GB7.

  1522. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Well, Eva, you have the option of not reading my posts or not responding to them. Anybody else you want to seek you out for an internet fistfight. I’m really concerned for my safety.

  1523. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Evan D…..Are you sure you have the right address ???? I think your party is somewhere else…..

  1524. Rose August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I like the minor league updates. If you don’t scroll past them.

    ————————————————————–

    Did anyone notice Girardi had Mo up during the 9th inning tonight? Like the song “Give Peace A Chance” it should be “Give Robertson A Chance.” Mo should not have been up, the game wasn’t close.

  1525. In Mo We Trust August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Man, Pete really has a soft spot for Cody Ransom. He must be a nice guy.

    You know what they say, though, nice guys finish last.

    I did find this line a little odd though:

    “People are such mean-spirited cranks sometimes.”

    Sounds precisely like the majority of comments Pete leaves in these posts. I always cringe when I see his name in the comments section.

  1526. CB August 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    What a clown. Who are you to tell other people what they should be interested in.

    Get lost.

  1527. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Probably right Pat M. I’d much prefer to talk to some Yankee fans who would like to discuss this year’s (real) team. Not the guys who may or may not be on the team in 3+ years.

  1528. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Evan D,

    I never said you were an avg fan. I said many of the bloggers here are more interested in the Yanks and part of that interest includes the minor leagues.

    It’s cool if you couldn’t care less, but many of us do care.

    Lighten up.

  1529. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Thank you Rose.

    That is the theme of what tonight’s discussion should be. A 3 run lead is large enough where you can rest your 2 best bullpen guys on the eve of a huge 4 game series.

  1530. Rob in Vt. August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    GB7, Thanks for the Minor league updates.Many of us on here do care to hear them.

  1531. pat August 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    GB

    New babies steal brain cells. Usually happens to the mom but there could be some carry over to Great Grandpas when twins are involved. Your typos are excused, especially now. :wink:

  1532. Nick in SF August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Evan, can you give us the link to your blog? I’d like to see what your idea of a a real intelligent Yankee fan discussion looks like. Thanks.

  1533. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Boy oh boy for a win there was a lot of complaining tonight.

    I wouldn’t have gone with Hughes in the 8th but it’s understandable why Girardi did it. Winning tonight is just as good as a win vs Boston. With Boston losing to Tampa a win is another 1 game in the standings.

    How many times this year has Girardi gone to a reliever that was clearly gassed or overworked a guy with blatant disregard to his health? Torre did that junk all the time but while Girardi likes to lean on his 4 guys he never really overworks them.

    I do agree, the Yanks will need to work in Bruney, Melancon or Robertson and give them significant innings down the stretch but so far I’m not displeased with the bullpen management.

  1534. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    For the record, I’m not anti minors….I just feel that discussion is not meant for tonight. More meant for off season or September call ups.

    Tomorrow night begins the stretch run towards October. It is extremely important to win division (and not have to play on the road vs. Anaheim and road vs. Boston).

    The road to the world series is much much easier (obviously) if we have home field advantage. These next 4 days can go a very long way if we can sweep. I truly believe Girardi made the right call pushing back Joba and I fully expect to win the next 3/4 games.

  1535. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    If you honestly believe that Kei Igawa is the best pitcher in the minor league system, I’d suggest you start learning a little more. Look for other things besides numbers. Most people on here attend minor league games for the farm teams and it’s a great way to get the prospectives of others. some of the best info comes from the ladies, by the way.

  1536. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) August 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    GB – I think we finally found a home for those great-grandkids’ dirty diapers. Drop them off in section 234.

  1537. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    “For the record, I’m not anti minors….I just feel that discussion is not meant for tonight.”

    ———

    there are 1500+ posts on this thread.

    what’s wrong with a nightly minor league update or two that could lead to another 5 or so comments if people are really feeling crazy.

    wow….

  1538. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    I’m out. If anyone would like to discuss this year’s team I sit in Section 234 – row 17 (Jeter jersey).

    Beer on me.

    Goodnight and let the real games begin tomorrow.

  1539. stuart August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    we love the minor league updates and insight.

    hughes threw 16 pitches today, the guy was a starter girardi knows more then the bloggers…

    a win against toronto is just as importnat as a win against boston…

  1540. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    And no – I do NOT believe Igawa is good at all.

    That’s the point – minor league stats mean ziltch.

  1541. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    “a win against toronto is just as importnat as a win against boston…”

    ———

    we’ll see if that holds true if the Yanks lose tomorrow night :)

  1542. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    pat
    August 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    GB

    New babies steal brain cells. Usually happens to the mom but there could be some carry over to Great Grandpas when twins are involved. Your typos are excused, especially now.

    ————————————————————

    On the nights that I have the kids, I probably won’t be on here. Lord, if i mix the kids and the trash or dogs up, I don’t know exactly how I could explain that to their mom.

  1543. Evan D. August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    a win against toronto is just as importnat as a win against boston…

    It’s these comments that get me annoyed.

  1544. CB August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    “there are 1500+ posts on this thread.

    what’s wrong with a nightly minor league update or two that could lead to another 5 or so comments if people are really feeling crazy. ”

    BD,

    That is completely besides the point.

    Who is this clown to show up and tell other people what they “should” talk about, be interested in or care about.

    He just appoints himself the Chairman Mao of the board?

    What a joke.

    It’s especially ridiculous for him to somehow try to dictate to GB7 what he should be posting on?

    And never mind trying to go with that garbage when his own posts have been mind bogglingly stupid.

  1545. Betsy August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    Interesting stuff – I’ll bet Doc isn’t too thrilled with JP

  1546. BBFan August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    “It’s like guilt by association because they all happen to have been Yankee relievers.

    It’s nonsense.”

    YOu first write non-sense implying any one can protect a 3-run lead given a chance using Robertons’s name as an example. When you are questioned with examples (I am not the only one who did it above), it is non-sense.

    Sometimes you come across like a Prima Donna.

  1547. GreenBeret7 August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
    August 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
    GB – I think we finally found a home for those great-grandkids’ dirty diapers. Drop them off in section 234.

    ————————————————————

    It would certainly add to the IQ in one seat in particular.

  1548. Jim Pir-one August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    GG 2nite!

  1549. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Haha I sit in 232b maybe I’ll drop by and mooch a beer off you

  1550. Joba to the Pen August 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    I agree with minimizing the minor league updates. I don’t mind them but they are irrelevant in the scheme of things.

  1551. Pat M.... August 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Evan D. sounds very much like Matt……I was taken back when Hughes was up and warming…However Giradi is going for a win when one’s on the table……I mentioned when Miltre was yanked and he went to Aceves, that we’re going to see Hughes & Rivera…..Yanks opened up the game somewhat so we get Robertson….Which was a good thing…..Giradi is goin after every win that he can get….His arse is on the line……

  1552. Patrick August 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    “It’s these comments that get me annoyed.”

    On a night that Boston loses, yes a game vs Toronto is as important as a game vs Boston. Explain to me how it’s any different.

  1553. Uncle Ellsworth August 5th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Evan we’ll see you under the O’neill banner.

  1554. Evan D August 5th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    No problem Patrick. I sit on the end….a few seats from the fence overlooking the bleachers. As long as you want to talk current Yanks feel free to come by.

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    ==============================

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    Under the O’Neill banner!! It’s August and it still makes me laugh. I need to re-read that game thread again one of these days.

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    CB,

    of course. I started with that approach before realizing we were dealing with a clown.

  1562. CB August 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    “YOu first write non-sense implying any one can protect a 3-run lead given a chance using Robertons’s name as an example.”

    Teams with a 3 run lead in the 9th inning win 93% of all games regardless of who is pitching.

    So you’re right. It’s remarkable to hold a 4 run lead in the 9th.

    How could I say it doesn’t require magic to do so.

  1563. Cody Ransom's Ghost August 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Tough loss for the Yankees tonight. I can see why everyone’s up in arms.

    That numbskull Joe Girardi and his piss-poor managing.

    Grrrrrrrr. He gets me so mad sometimes.

    wait, what?

  1564. Evan D, August 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    No rage….just no interest.

    Following the stats of guys like Sergio Mitre simply is meaningless. How often to minor league stats translate to success?

    How often to prospects live up to their full potential. Look at the Mets this year and tell me how they honestly believed guys like Daniel Murphy was going to be a “star.”

    I like hearing about guys like Shelley Duncan and would have liked to see him at the major league level. But I understand he is a career AAA player. Nothing against him but that’s just the way it is.

  1565. Cody Ransom's Ghost August 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

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    Otherwise, no holds barred!

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    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
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    “Lord, if i mix the kids and the trash or dogs up, I don’t know exactly how I could explain that to their mom.”

    yeah GB, you’ll have enough trouble explaining how their first spoken words were not “mama” or “dada” but “Sox Sux”.

    ————————————————————

    I’m working on their slogans and things to yell at the Red Sox and their fans. It’s been two weeks and not a word. It is encouraging that everytime I say “Red Sox”, they immediately need a diaper change, so, I figure that they are getting the right idea.

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    For the record, the smarter Yankee fans (and baseball fans in general) are the people who do pay close attention to the minor leaguers and their progress.

    Those who don’t like Mike Francesa are completely clueless and don’t know anything about the youngsters who have opportunities to help the big league club over the next few years and perhaps become big time players for this team.

  1569. MG August 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Evan, I’d really be careful who you call an idiot, reading comprehension certainly isn’t one of your strengths. Hughes has pitched 30 innings in 2 months in the bullpen, that’s about average for a setup guy. maybe you should go back and read what I wrote although you won’t understand it anyway because it doesn’t match your opinion.

    If you don’t like my opinion I could care less anyway, you’re just another anonymous no nothing wannabe baesball expert.

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    The only guys I’m truly interested in hearing about are Austin Jackson (next year’s CF) and Montero (our future catcher assuming we don’t sign Joe Mauer).

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    6.5 games above the Sox by Monday!

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    Jason Bay out at least 2 games with re-strained hamstring…

    Hmmmm….

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    I’m definitely not a wannabe baseball expert. NBA and NFL maybe, definitely not baseball.

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    Hey Evan, a couple of years ago I was following a minor leaguer that was a little bit under the radar.

    I kept telling everyone at work about him. They pretty much had the same attitude you take.

    That was Joba Chamberlain.

    Now they listen to me.

    If it’s not your thing, so be it. It’s just your condescending attitude about it that’s obviously rubbing everyone the wrong way.

  1575. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    “The only guys I’m truly interested in hearing about are Austin Jackson (next year’s CF) and Montero (our future catcher assuming we don’t sign Joe Mauer).”

    ———

    that’s perfectly fine. many people, especially here, are interested in more than that.

    no need for you to rip others for it.

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    that is good news :)

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    BD – I wasn’t ripping anyone. I simply stated (perhaps wrongly) that I did not think many were interested in hearing about guys.

    My opinion, nevertheless, remains that the minor league stats are totally meaningless. As living proof of that, Sergio Mitre was excellent in the minors prior to being called up. He has been anything but since. Kei Igawa on the flip side, is terrible at the major league level yet he is a fantastic minor league pitcher (so I hear – I’ve never watched him).

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    BD

    Washington Post website, under sports.

  1581. BD 2.0 August 5th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    “BD – I wasn’t ripping anyone. I simply stated (perhaps wrongly) that I did not think many were interested in hearing about guys.”

    —————-

    you said “no one gives a damn about the minor leagues.”

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    thanks Pitt

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    =========

    Yeah, when you go storming into the opponents clubhouse the day after being hit, ready to take on the entire team, security, with the door locking you out, yeah, I would say he has anger issues.

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    I would argue that Hughes/Rivera combo has been one the most important aspects of the team since the 2nd game in Atlanta. Not using Bruney with a 3 run lead (despite his recent woes) was a mistake and could come back to hurt us. If he got into trouble I understand Girardi going to Hughes. But a 3 run lead is a nice cushion to have.

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    ——–

    I believe he already pitched 2 days ago and struck out the first 4 batters he faced (hitting 100 on the gun)

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    Adam Kennedy just took him deep for a 2-run shot. 7-5 A’s.

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    he came out of nowhere so far this year…

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