Game 115: Yankees at Mariners (now with injury updates)
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YANKEES (71-43)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 3B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (12-7, 3.76).
MARINERS (60-54)
Suzuki RF
Gutierrez CF
Lopez 2B
Sweeney DH
Branyan 1B
Johjima C
Hannahan 3B
Wilson SS
Saunders LF
Pitching: LHP Ian Snell (0-0, 6.14).
TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have won two straight, nine of 10, 20 of 26 and 33 of 44. Wow, that’s pretty good. They start the day with a 5.5-game lead on the Red Sox on the East. My fear of the Rays seems unfounded as they have fallen 10 games back.
ROAD DOGS: The Yankees are 30-25 on the road this season. Only the Angels (32-22) have been better in the American League. Everybody else, in fact, is under .500.
CC IN SEATTLE: Sabathia is 4-1, 2.83 in seven career starts at Safeco Field. Sabathia faced the Mariners on July 2 at home and was pretty bad (5.2 10 6 6 3 
in an 8-4 loss
THE GUNS OF AUGUST: Sabathia is 30-9, 3.21 in 48 starts in August.
WORKING ON A DREAM: Sabathia pitched what was probably his best game as a Yankee on Saturday when he held the Red Sox scoreless for 7.2 innings and allowed two hits. He walked two and fanned a season-high nine.
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY: Johnny Damon has nine extra-base hits (five of them homers) in his last nine games.
HE FELL OFF THE CYCLE: Melky Cabrera is 5 of 36 (.139) in nine games since hitting for the cycle in Chicago. His batting average has fallen from .292 to .275. Get well soon, Brett Gardner. The Melkman needs a rest.
PHIL, SCOTTY. SCOTTY, PHIL: Phil Coke has made 55 appearances this season. Only 11 pitchers have made more, two of them in the American League (Craig Breslow and Matt Guerrier).
DONTCHA KNOW: Robinson Cano is 18 of his last 39 (.462) with eight extra-base hits and four RBI. He has eight multi-hit games in his last nine games.
That’s it for now. Back with more later.
UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: Just saw Derek Jeter walk through the clubhouse and he wasn’t limping.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Phil Hughes finally cut that mop.
UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: A-Rod is not available today as his elbow still has swelling. … Posada says he could play but he has a sore finger on each hand. … Jeter grinned and said he was OK. … Girardi plans to start Mitre on Saturday and Gaudin on Sunday but that could change. It’ll depend on how much the bullpen is used.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: It hurts just to write this. But Seattle 3B Adrian Beltre could be done for the season after taking a bad-hop grounder in the groin last night. It caused tearing in one of his testicles along with internal bleeding and he could require surgery. Beltre does not use a cup.
UPDATE, 9:22 p.m.: If you want to catch up on the Mariners, read Geoff Baker’s blog for the Seattle Times. Good stuff.
UPDATE, 10:11 p.m: We are underway from beautiful Safeco Field, one of the best places in the league for a game. Glad you’re staying up for baseball. Enjoy it. 62 degrees here. Feinsand forgot his jacket, too.
UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: CC had that “It’s my day to pitch” swagger in the clubhouse pre-game. The big lefty is usually The Man at this time of the year. We’ll see if he picks up where he left off against the Red Sox.
You know what’s cool about CC? Most starters don’t talk to anybody on the day they pitch and it’s an unwritten rule that the media stays far away pre-game. But CC talks to everybody, writers included. We talked about Tecmo Bowl today and how great Bo Jackson was with that one play he ran.
UPDATE, 10:56 p.m.: Ian Snell is pitching like Ian Snell. Yankees up 3-0 and threatening for more. Jeter just hit a bomb to left center. I guess his foot is OK.
UPDATE, 10:57 p.m.: Hideki Matsui just lined one over the head of Ichiro into the seats in right field. 5-0 Yankees and Ian Snell may need to suck up some innings after the M’s went 14 last night. This has savage thumping written all over it.
Wonder if Matsui ends up here next season?
UPDATE, 11:04 p.m.: I just snapped a photo of Tyler with Mariner Moose. I also have an old shot of Mark with T.C. The Bear and one of Tyler with T.C. When it comes to capturing beat writers and mascots, I’m Ansel Adams.
UPDATE, 11:20 p.m.: Tex squared that ball up and crushed to the gap in right. 6-0 Yankees. Ian Snell looks like he’s terrified to put the ball over the plate.
Now we know why the Yankees wanted nothing to do with trading for him.
UPDATE, 11:42 p.m.: So much for the shutout. Josh Wilson just snuck one inside the foul pole 6-1 Yankees in the fifth. His first homer since Sept. 2, 2007.
UPDATE, 11:50 p.m.: Snell has retired seven straight. Yankees are in “We gave CC the lead, see you tomorrow” mode.
UPDATE, 12:07 a.m.: Snell gone, Yankees up 7-1 and Matsui has another RBI. Godzilla 3 for 4 with a homer and three RBI. He’s winning the contest to be the best Japanese player on the field.
UPDATE, 12:14 a.m.: When is Jerry Hairston Jr. Bobblehead Day?
UPDATE, 12:33 a.m.: Matsui showing off at this point. Two homers and five RBI.
Lets go Yanks! Make it 6.5!
Anybody ever watch ESPN First Take in the mornings? Skip Bayless drives me crazy, especially with his anti-Yankees rants and raves. He’s convinced Boston will win the AL East still and the Rays will win the wild card. He claims the Yankees are living dangerously because of their come from behind wins. He might as well wear a sign around his neck that says, “Yes, I hate the Yankees.”
They start the day with a 5.5-game lead on the Red Sox on the East
but now its six already
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Texeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Melky CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pena SS
that’s my guess
Does Skip realize that the Rays are 10 games behind us?
C.C. should be rested assuming he flew ahead of the team to Seattle.
Agreed that Jeter had better be sitting. I don’t care if he bugs the daylights out of Joe. Joe has a tendency to listen too much to what his players want (Damon not getting tested when he hurt his shoulder, that kind of thing). Not that it matters because had the Sox won I would feel the same way, but especially now that they lost…..you take care of your players because without them, you don’t have anything.
I respect all these teams. I don’t know how good the Sox are – they really did catch the Yankees playing their worst baseball of the year (at least in a 3 game span). SJ, when did the Yankees face Peavy? We’ll see how he does in the AL – I never thought his mentality (that he much preferred to stay in the NL) was the best and I think he won’t be as good against the hard-hitting AL teams. Nonetheless, he’s obviously a fine pitcher.
I just want the Yankees to make the playoffs first. Whoever they play is going to be a tough out – they are not guaranteed a thing.
Lineup guess for the night…
1) Damon LF
Pena SS
2) Swisher RF
3) Tex 1b
4) Matsui DH
5) Cano 2B
6) Hairston 3B
7) Melky CF
9) Molina C
ill say
damon lf
jeter ss
matsui 3b
teixeria 1b
cano 2b
swisher rf
cabrera cf
pena 3b
molina c
The Yankees have won two straight, nine of 10, 20 of 26 and 33 of 44
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well, I know what Lotto numbers I’m playing.
Welcome to the Machine
August 13th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
sassy molassy did you change your name?
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I had a major impersonator problem previously, so I kind of shuffle through handles. I’m not sure if that’s frowned on here, but it beats getting handle-jacked.
Who was giving you problems Rich Little or Jay Mohr?
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Hairston 3B
Cabrera CF
Pena 3B
Molina C
Skip Bayless is an idiot. His Red Sox might not even make it to October. The Texas Rangers are hot and it doesn’t seem like they are going to let up. The Red Sox csn’t win on the road, and they suck against the West Coast Teams and Tampa, and those are team they will have to face down the road.
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Texeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Melky CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pena SS
The Rockies and Dodgers lineups in the NL are better than any lineup in the AL Central that Peavy will face.
sorry Erica, my 1st one posted before I was finished
LF E’s PBF
RF Swish
1B Tex
DH matsui
2B Cano
3B Hairston
SS Pena
C Molina
this line up was stolen from Patrick, who posted it early this am
Dave August 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Anybody ever watch ESPN First Take in the mornings? Skip Bayless drives me crazy, especially with his anti-Yankees rants and raves. He’s convinced Boston will win the AL East still and the Rays will win the wild card. He claims the Yankees are living dangerously because of their come from behind wins. He might as well wear a sign around his neck that says, “Yes, I hate the Yankees.”
In this case, I don’t think the anti-Yankee comments are due to any bias. In fact, if the roles were reversed between New York and Boston Skip would probably say that Boston would miss the playoffs. Skip seems to pride himself on being a contrarion, like it gives him more opportunities to look like a genius–and in the process he normally gets to create some controversy, drawing attention to himself. Should he turn out to be wrong (which he often does) he won’t be called out on it in any meaningful way, so his outlandish predictions are a winning proposition.
I love this commercial. Watch with sound. Safe for work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7bGBUlx2M
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Matsui DH
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Melky CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pena SS
I’m stealing James 3D’s lineup, except I’m going to put Pena in as SS. I don’t think we need two 3B.
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Hairston 3B
Cabrera CF
Pena SS
Molina C
Betsy – If that were AJ on the mound tonight, would you be OK with putting a C lineup out there?
What’s the deal with this guy Mitre in the rotation aside from his history with Girardi? And who is this new pickup Chaud (forgothis last name)?
Have you guys seen Chad Gaudin’s significant other? She’s drop dead gorgeous!!!
http://www.wagrankings.com/syndal-gorden/
How is it a journey man like Gaudin snags a super hottie, yet ARod dates flat chested kate hudson?????
What’s up with that??
we indoors rite? they got rain
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
Jorge DH
Swish RF
ROBI 2b
Melky CF
Jerry 3b
Molina C
whoever it was, he/she had issues.
Damon lf
Swish rf
Matsui dh
Tex 1b
Cano 2b
Hairston 3b
Cabrera rf
Pena ss
Molina c
Erica,
my lineup:
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairson 3B
Molina C
Pena SS
Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.
Damon LF
Cano 2B
Teixeria 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Hairston 3B
Cabrera CF
Pena SS
Molina C
what time would the lineup come in?
Pete on SNY now
And some poster mentioned that the yanks were favorites in the 2006 alds against the Tigers and look what happened.
Well that was all media hype, the Yankees in my opinion were not the favorites because they sucked. They had no pitching in the rotation and the bullpen. The Tigers were loaded in terms of pitching and offense. The 2009 Tigers not so much. They have two good starters, but the rest of the rotation is alright, their offense stinks, and their bullpen sucks. The White Sox are more like the 2006 Tigers, and they are more dangerous.
Damon LF
Cano 2B
Teixeria 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Hairston 3B
Cabrera CF
Pena SS
Molina C
“Anybody ever watch ESPN First Take in the mornings? Skip Bayless drives me crazy, especially with his anti-Yankees rants and raves. He’s convinced Boston will win the AL East still and the Rays will win the wild card”
skip bayless was my boyy last year (he had the Jets/Favre backs)
but what he just said…
WOW.
The line ups are neverending today- someone better win
Just a reminder, GTLU ends at 6:15 exactly. No line ups after will be accepted. I will formally announce the winner between 9-10pm
Erica-
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Cano 2B
Hairston 3B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
If I had my druthers this would be my lineup:
Henderson LF
Gehrig 1B
Mantle CF
Ruth DH
Dimaggio RF
A-Rod 3B
Berra C
Jeter SS
Lazzeri 2B
But I guess A-Rod needs a rest tonight! LOL
go Pete !!
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
If you look at the rest of that site, it shows the girlfriends and wives of several MLB players. Jeter is in there at least 7 times. It’s quite clear from that site that baseball players do not have trouble getting attractive women to go out with them. I wonder why?
Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.
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this is especially true on umpires named Joe West.
Upstate Kate- You have 8 players. Missing CF
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
So true.
I think Kate Hudson is a really pretty woman. Definitely an upgrade over Cynthia, Madonna and that manly stripper.
Damon LF
SWISHer RF
Teix 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Hairston SS
Hinske 3B
Cabrera CF
Moliba C
Yikes, sorry again Erica
I forgot Melky
this is it I promise;
LF Damon
RF Swish
1B Tex
DH Matsui
2B Cano
CF Melky
3B Hairston
SS Pena
C Molina
this is the real line up stolen from patrick
I dont know if you guys saw this, but good article on the Yanks spending ect…
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....t-it-right
Erica, do me a favor, please put Molina at C in my lineup and flip Melky and Hairston. Thanks!
Really, who cares what someone from ESPN/SI/the Daily News says? This isn’t the Oscars…no one gets a vote about who wins the World Series.
People either love the Yanks or hate them…the media won’t change anyone’s mind. I’d rather rooted for an unpopular World Series winner than be a fan of the lovable losers.
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
Disagree.
“And some poster mentioned that the yanks were favorites in the 2006 alds against the Tigers and look what happened.
Well that was all media hype, the Yankees in my opinion were not the favorites because they sucked. They had no pitching in the rotation and the bullpen”
that 2006 Yankee team was a very good team. They simply choked.
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Pena SS
Not our best lineup, but I think it’s crucial to rest A-Rod, Posada and Jeter tonight after they were banged up yesterday. This lineup would, however, give the Yankees a better defense and some small ball.
My point is that Gaudin’s GF looks like shes straight out of the 80s in that pic, haha, also I don’t really see natural beauty.
Nice behind + big boobs does not facilitate beauty or being gorgeous, can’t buy that.
James 3D- You have 2 third baseman
Sorry -
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Hairston 3B
Cabrera CF
Pena SS
Molina C
Tunnel Man
August 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Have you guys seen Chad Gaudin’s significant other? She’s drop dead gorgeous!!!
http://www.wagrankings.com/syndal-gorden/
How is it a journey man like Gaudin snags a super hottie, yet ARod dates flat chested kate hudson?????
What’s up with that??
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Here we go again.
Big jugs does not a beauty make.
But I suppose I’ll get the customary: “oh sure, you would reject her” crap.
Hudson looks like a woman, that lady looks like a tramp.
Everybody has preferences.
Erica:
No wait, I forgot that Nady is on the DL, switch him around with Betemit, no make Cabrera bat leadoff. Better yet change out Matsui as DH and let CC DH.
Yea, Yea that’s the winning ticket!!!
How do you have time to do all this extra work???
I personally think that Madonna is hotter than Kate Hudson
# Laura – I like the new and improved Alex! He’s a keeper. August 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
If you look at the rest of that site, it shows the girlfriends and wives of several MLB players. Jeter is in there at least 7 times. It’s quite clear from that site that baseball players do not have trouble getting attractive women to go out with them. I wonder why?
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Which makes the case ARod’s dating choices all the more curious.
28 games over and they could win 95 games just playing .500
96 wins seems to be the magic number.
“Teams need somebody traveling with the club, IMO. Otherwise depth would start to disappear.”
Oh I agree heartily Stultus. Let’s hope it never comes to that.
But the internet is changing the news game in a big way. Just last weekend I was watching the game on my Iphone in Ecuador. That wasn’t possible 3 months ago.
So there is a lot more access to games and fans don’t need to rely on papers to get accounts of the game. And of course you can always just read the paper for free online anyway.
“Which makes the case ARod’s dating choices all the more curious.”
Bingo. Kate Hudson is fairly attractive, but certainly not the best he could get. With all that money, he can date anyone he wants. Why Kate Hudson?
Erica – always OPPC
August 13th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
James 3D- You have 2 third baseman
Erica you are too nice.
If people makes mistakes they should correct their own or live with it. That’s how it works in the real game and life.
You have too much to do besides that
Just saying.
But it is your Rodeo. Rock On!
Btw my second line up guess – i’m gonna win.
F7 TD August 13th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I personally think that Madonna is hotter than Kate Hudson
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Oh please. Yuck.
Gag me with a spoon.
http://snipurl.com/ptz6w
Madonna looks like the crypt keeper.
Hope I’m not too late:
Erica’s PBF lf
Swishy rf
Tex Message 1b
Matsui dh
Cano 2b
Hairston 3b
da Melkman cf
Pena ss
Molina c
Thank again Erica.
I’m gonna need some coffee for this game!
F7 TD
August 13th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I personally think that Madonna is hotter than Kate Hudson
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Really? Everybody has their preferences. I wouldn’t wanna touch this though:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix.....68x689.jpg
madonna looks like the crypt keeper.
the m’s starting pitcher throws RIGHT
my line-up prediction is:
damon lf
swisher rf
tex 1b
matsui dh
cano 2b
melky cf
hairston 3b
molina c
pena ss
>Phil Coke has made 55 appearances this season.
6 out appearance – 3
5 out appearance – 3
4 out appearance – 6
3 out appearance – 15
2 out appearance – 14
1 out appearance – 14
Big series coming up in Arlington: Texas and Boston for the wild card lead. Boston is starting Penny and Tazawa in the final two games.
Can’t wait to read the reaction on SoSH if the Sox fall behind the Rangers in the wild card standings (they can definitely be ‘creative’).
Are you allowed to say B**bs?
According to the NY Post, there may be some rift between Minka and Kate Hudson.
Apparently, Hudson watches games with CC and AJ’s wife and got the stamp of approval from Posada and Damon’s wife. That is very important.
Tastes GreaT!
I personally think that Madonna is hotter than Kate Hudson
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Madonna’s arms don’t scare you? Those things are freaky looking
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....veins.html
Welcome to the Machine August 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Big series coming up in Arlington: Texas and Boston for the wild card lead. Boston is starting Penny and Tazawa in the final two games.
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I would have to say Boston will probably lose 2/3 of those games against Texas. Not only are the Sox bad on the road but they are also only 1-5 against Texas this season. Tazawa was terrible against the Yankees and mediocre against the bad hitting Tigers (and he only saw Cabrera once and he hit him).
Less Filling!
Stultus Magnus August 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
F7 TD
August 13th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I personally think that Madonna is hotter than Kate Hudson
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Really? Everybody has their preferences. I wouldn’t wanna touch this though:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix…..15;689.jpg
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I didn’t refresh and thus missed this post.
Those arms are scary.
Stultus Magnus August 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Here we go again.
Big jugs does not a beauty make.
But I suppose I’ll get the customary: “oh sure, you would reject her” crap.
Hudson looks like a woman, that lady looks like a tramp.
Everybody has preferences.
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yeah right. Nnear flat chests like Hudson are so feminine .
I don’t know if she would appeal to Chad Gaudin, but I still find Jean Seberg to be beautiful:
http://www.thebeautymanifesto......un1958.jpg
Bronx Jeers: Ecuador? What did you think of it? Did you go to Machu Picchu? I still don’t know if that’s a real place or a Pokemon character.
Mike August 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
“Which makes the case ARod’s dating choices all the more curious.”
Bingo. Kate Hudson is fairly attractive, but certainly not the best he could get. With all that money, he can date anyone he wants. Why Kate Hudson?
Because she has her own money. Lady with money > Lady without money.
If you experience an erection lasting longer than four hours, please consult the nearest photo of Madonna.
What has been seen can not be unseen.
Go figure…Yanks come to town and it is 65 and raining here in Seattle! Heading down to the game…thank God they built a roof in this city. I’ll be cheering from the LF Bleachers with Pride. GO YANKS!!
Enjoy the game everyone!
Matt
Are those madonna pics real?
wow. I do not approve.
Kate Hudson is OK… the best that A-Rod has dated, which isin’t saying much, but it’s a start.
Ok here we go.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston 3B
Molina C
Jeter’s a gamer.
Which makes the case ARod’s dating choices all the more curious.
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A-rod goes for personality. He is a true nice guy in baseball.
If you could ignore the fact that Machu Picchu is actually in Peru, that would be great.
Demo August 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
According to the NY Post, there may be some rift between Minka and Kate Hudson.
Apparently, Hudson watches games with CC and AJ’s wife and got the stamp of approval from Posada and Damon’s wife. That is very important.
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Here’s the story. Seems like kate hudson is another yoko ono. She thinks she’s too good to hang out with other wifes.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....184261.htm
Isin’t it kind of sad that Chad Gaudin has a hotter girlfriend than A-Rod does?
I mean, I understand beauty is in the eye of the beholder but still… A-Rod is the richest man in sports, he can get anyone he wants!
Jerkface August 13th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Which makes the case ARod’s dating choices all the more curious.
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A-rod goes for personality. He is a true nice guy in baseball.
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Yeah, that Madonna and her kooky Karbalha is a real peach.
Here’s the story. Seems like kate hudson is another yoko ono. She thinks she’s too good to hang out with other wifes.
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You mean Minka Kelly? Since Hudson has pretty famously hung out with like every baseball wife? Even David Robertson’s?
“Because she has her own money. Lady with money > Lady without money.”
Ain’t that the truth!
Jax Gmen August 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Isin’t it kind of sad that Chad Gaudin has a hotter girlfriend than A-Rod does?
I mean, I understand beauty is in the eye of the beholder but still… A-Rod is the richest man in sports, he can get anyone he wants!
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DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
Cabrera CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Hairston 3B
Pena SS
Molina C
Absolutely NO more line ups.
I will let you know who is in today’s round in a minute
CC wife > all Arod’s women put together
Minka is much more attractive than Kate Hudson
Has Jeter have made a bad choice when selecting his woman?
Do any of you perhaps think that A-Rod- is dating Kate because she is a nice person?
I think she looks amazing for someone who has children. Plus, she seems like a really fun and nice person to be around.
Johnny Damon’s wife > all other wives
“Has Jeter have made a bad choice when selecting his woman?”
i say, yes.
however, i’m in the minority.
As a woman, let me say, ARod is 1,000 hotter than Chad Gaudin, but his girlfriend is 1,000 hotter than anyone ARod has been linked to.
Here’s who is in today’s round of “Guess the Line Up”. Definitely record participation. NO MORE LINE UPS
Evan D, Andrew 33, Ramey, David, Ed H, BBB, Dave, Greg D, Patrick, YanksWin27, The Fair Pole (Same)
IDCWYT
MikeBoston
SevenCostanza, Andrew, Dan the Man, CM, Ready, Yanks Fan (same)
RobVt, Miggs (same)
Chris A
Henner
Frank from Chatham
Gates
Saucy
Mark H, Upstate Kate
Jeff NJ
C
EQ10
Adam
Fran, Zolio, Club Tight Five, James 3d, Laura, SA (same)
Hensley Muellens
William Buckner
RobbieKid
Nitro
JL
Mark
Ben
Uncle E
Scott
Joba da Hutt
YankeeTrader
Tank
BBFan
Arod is not the richest man in sports.
Where is Nick Markakis when you need him?
Miike, I think you nailed it. Seems like our ARod is growing up this year.
Mariah Carrey
Just a reminder, I will announce the winner between 9-10 tonight.
Also, there is no GTLU tomorrow. I need to seriously reconsider the future of GTLU over the weekend
Unless she turns out to be bat-sh*t crazy, I’d say Jeter has found his keeper.
Minka is niiiiice.
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
Not necessarily. Many men look for body over face.
I met Kate Hudson once. I was standing in line at a coffee shop in Syracuse and she was behind me.
Wait… Gaudin, Swisher, and that girl all lived in the same apartment together?
Wow! How was a reality show not done on that?
A-Rod has been very clutch since he has been dating Kate Hudson.
Watching Tiger’s press conference (don’t ask me why), it always amazes me how golfers can instantly recall every shot they took throughout the round.
I guess it’s because they’re not guzzling down cold ones on every hole…
Mariah Carey in her prime was great.
“Wait… Gaudin, Swisher, and that girl all lived in the same apartment together?
Wow! How was a reality show not done on that”
I won’t say it. Too easy.
: )
Uncle Ellsworth August 13th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Where is Nick Markakis when you need him?
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He sure is nice to look at.
” The Melkman needs a rest.”
the way it was put to me once was ” don’t be afraid to stay in some nights”.
it was told to me by stan cliburn present the triple a manager of the rochester red wings.
melky likes to have fun which is great, but each player has to learn his limits.
Hey perhaps A-Rod is dating Kate Hudson because they both fell in love with eachother, have a lot in common, trust eachother, and bond well together!!
What a novel concept!
“Mariah Carrey”
That was back in the 90′s before she had issues. I’m sure currently he wouldn’t touch her with a ten foot pole.
NITRO
August 13th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Johnny Damon’s wife > all other wives
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You saw Erica’s picture? If not, how would you know?
Hairston 3B
Damon LF
Texeira 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Melky CF
Pena SS
Molina C
I know its too late.
:lol :lol
You guys act like Mariah just suddenly became “crazy.”
I’m sure she was like that alllll along. She was jsut younger and more attractive so the media didn’t jump all over her now that she lost it.
S.A.–Serenity Now
August 13th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Uncle Ellsworth August 13th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Where is Nick Markakis when you need him?
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He sure is nice to look at.
that’s what the girls say.
trying to think of my fave female athelte looks wise.
Jorge’s wife would give anyone a run for their money.
Mariah Carey has deteriorated.
JMO but anyone who is wasting her or his time obssessing over this year’s version of the Sux is wasting valuable time.
“But all of those teams have a much tougher opponent in the New York Yankees. I fear no one!”
That goes double for me, and quadruple when it comes to the Sux. They are pretty much dead men walking.
WEEI callers and hosts really think it is a mistake to sit Pukey right now. I couldn’t agree with them more.
So bored. I think I’m gonna go back and re-read the original “I’ll meet you under the O’Neill banner, no weapons, just fists” thread. It’s the middle of August and it still makes me laugh.
Get my damn hands off who?
S.A.–Serenity Now
August 13th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
So bored. I think I’m gonna go back and re-read the original “I’ll meet you under the O’Neill banner, no weapons, just fists” thread. It’s the middle of August and it still makes me laugh.
Bring the link back with you.
REAL FANS V FAKE FANS FISTFIGHT!
I happen to think Randy Johnson is very attractive. He has that hot mustache, he’s tall, has that “mean streak” about him.
Just an overall attractive man.
F7 TD August 13th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Mariah Carey has deteriorated.
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What do ya expect, she’s pushing 40. Not much tread left on those tires.
“As a woman, let me say, ARod is 1,000 hotter than Chad Gaudin, but his girlfriend is 1,000 hotter than anyone ARod has been linked to.”
Also as a women, A-Rod and Jeter are not on my list as hottest in the MLB… but Jete’s girls top A-Rods men by a lot.
“Watching Tiger’s press conference (don’t ask me why), it always amazes me how golfers can instantly recall every shot they took throughout the round.”
good golfers don’t have so many shots to remember.
if you shoot under 80, how can you not remember every shot?
when i was serious about playing, when i got home i would write down every shot and what club i used on each shot in a journal and also what swing thought i was using.
it’s really no different than hitting in baseball. lots of mlb hitters keep hitting journals.
you can do it before you play too visualizing each shot you plan to take and what club you’re going to use.
…or you can just go have fun and have a few beers .
that works too
I swam the Breaststroke in HS. No really.
“Jorge’s wife would give anyone a run for their money.”
Yeah if it was a contest to see what woman had the most work done.
Name one part of her that’s real.
Rockks August 13th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I happen to think Randy Johnson is very attractive. He has that hot mustache, he’s tall, has that “mean streak” about him.
Just an overall attractive man.
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Are you a guy?
Seriously, all of my girlfriends would barf when YES would use a close-up of randy.
should the lineup be out any minute?
Just saying, I prefer my women all natural.
Erika can u extend the times for gtlu?
Uncle Ellsworth August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
S.A.–Serenity Now
August 13th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
So bored. I think I’m gonna go back and re-read the original “I’ll meet you under the O’Neill banner, no weapons, just fists” thread. It’s the middle of August and it still makes me laugh.
Bring the link back with you.
REAL FANS V FAKE FANS FISTFIGHT!
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haha It still makes me LOL
Gonna go look for it now. Be back
DET x 2 August 13th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Hey perhaps A-Rod is dating Kate Hudson because they both fell in love with eachother, have a lot in common, trust eachother, and bond well together!!
What a novel concept!
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
Yeah, ARod is a real people person.
“Name one part of her that’s real.”
Her hands?
Hillary Clinton is a more attractive man than Randy Johnson is.
It just baffles my mind how Gaudin can have a more attractive GF than A-Rod. How did A-Rod let that happen?
Yes, real fans versus the not real ones.
What if the fake fans were in fact school children who were let out early, the ones SJ keeps talking about…
check out this vid by espn on bryce harper. kind of a repetition of si’s story but interesting nonetheless.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....id=4388790
But don’t all player wives get work done? It’s incumbent upon them to look as good as possible and have unlimited funds to make it happen.
Well at least today the blog has graduated to “actual” women as opposed to yesterday where we were dealing with animated hotties.
These getaway games and subsequent 10:00pm games really bring the collective testosterone level in here to primal levels.
And if you combine KHud with Madonna you get Goldie Hawn. In her current state of course.
Goldie from 30 yrs ago blows them both away.
Nick,
My better half is Ecuadorian so I’ve been there a bunch of times. Maccu Pichu is in Peru. The Galapagos are Ecuador’s claim to fame. Needless to say my South American geography wasn’t quite so hot prior to me meeting my wife.
miggs says:
August 13, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Just saying, I prefer my women all natural.
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With you there. Even make up turns me off.
Classic NYC subway, just walked into somebody’s fart cloud. Get me out!
This is a PR stunt by A-Rod, IMO.
Seems kind of artificial for him to parading around Kate Hudson and showing her off. And for her to be in the front row of every game with her entourage.
Found it.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200...../#comments
ransom sucks
April 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
TO BRANDON AND GB, IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT ME, COME MEET ME TOMORROW UNDER THE ONEIL BANNER AT 12:10 SHARP. LETS SEE HOW TOUGH YOU GUYS ARE.
TO ANYONE ELSE WHO THINK THEY CAN TAKE ME, COME MEET ME TOMORROW. FIGHT ME, I DARE YOU.
LOOK FOR ME: NAME IS JOE FRANCISCO, AGE 25, MATSUI JERSEY, JEANS, 5?11 200 LBS. LETS GO TOUGH GUYS.
Are we still playing the guess the lineup game?
Damon LF
Cano 2B
Teixeria 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Hairston JR 3B
Pena SS
Molina C
Cynthia was an odd-ball, it is no wonder why A-Rod left her for Madonna.
A-Rod and Madonna actually made a good couple. Two of the most powerful people in the world. One of the best musicians and one of the best athletes, both drowning in money. Like Joe D and Marylin.
Anyone can get fake boobs–does that really make them hot? I don’t get that. They are a pieces of fake garbage implanted into a person’s body. That’s a turn on? I’m a girl so I guess I’ll never quite get you guys. I see those pictures and I think “gross” and “fat.”
Kate Hudson herself is an athlete if you haven’t heard–she was a big soccer star in high school, grew up heli-skiing, still runs a 5-minute mile, etc. When I was pregnant and had bigger boobs it was hard to even go for power walks. Athletic women and big boobs just don’t go together. They HURT WHEN JUGGLED even with the best sport bras!
Minka has natural beauty (I think).
good point, Randy.
Unfortunately, I was never quite good enough to realistically expect vast improvement (say to scratch or even a low handicap), so I never put that sort of mental commitment to it.
Tiger, though, takes it to another level. They asked hime what clubs he used on his approaches on three different holes, and he immediately rattled off ’6, 6 and 7′ w/absolutely no hesitation. They should really check him for resistors and capacitors.
The reason I like Tiger is he’s able to take his game so seriously, but cracks jokes as readily as a comedian.
Zach August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Get my damn hands off who?
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Loraine Baines…
think mcfly, think…
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
A-Rod 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera LF
Molina C
Pena SS
I assume that no women who is famous is 100% natural.
Why would they be? They have money to fix imperfections.
UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: Just saw Derek Jeter walk through the clubhouse and he wasn’t limping.
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cool
Homer, the world doesn’t need any more misogyny.
Out of all the Yankee wives, the only one who appeared “real” was Teixeria’s.
CC pitches 8 inn 0 runs 1 hit and 9 k’s.
“UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: Just saw Derek Jeter walk through the clubhouse and he wasn’t limping. ”
Nice. Put him in the lineup
Pujols is crazy if he thinks hes getting A-Rod money.
And you know what the best part is?
Gaudin’s girlfriend apparently is in school now and wants to become a teacher.
It’s wayyy too soon for NFL football.
“X-Mann August 13th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
It just baffles my mind how Gaudin can have a more attractive GF than A-Rod. How did A-Rod let that happen?”
Maybe simply because he grew up and learned there is more to life and relationships than the superficial packaging. The large waterwings look awful once they start drooping toward the knees.
Being Goldie’s daughter, I would think that Kate might actually be pretty fun to be around.
What is the link for the mobile site for this blog?
Pujols is crazy if he thinks hes getting A-Rod money.
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Really? You think that a team won’t give ALBERT PUJOLS, the best right handed hitter in the game, A-rod money?
If I were the Yankees I’d flippin give him A-rod money and play him at DH / 1st alternating Tex and Pujols!
“Pujols is crazy if he thinks hes getting A-Rod money.”
Why wouldn’t he? He is better than A-Rod, younger, clean, and a great defender.
The Sox also have an opening at 1B when he is a FA.
Oh come on.
Look I can understand maybe getting some minor work done. But when its blatently obvious that something is fake (face or body) IMO it defeats the purpose. And makes them look worse.
Here’s my lineup
Melky CF
Damon LF
Tex 1B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Molina C
Hairston 3B
Pena SS
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
August 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Homer, the world doesn’t need any more misogyny.
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Had to look that one up………agreed
Pujols will get his money because he didn’t take steroids and will be the “clean” HR king and you can turn his contract into a marketing agreement.
He is worth A-Rod type money because he is clean.
Minka doesn’t seem to have had anything done. She’s naturally gorgeous.
Tex’s wife, CC’s wife, AJs wife all seem real for the most part. Yeah they might have had something done, but it was most likely minor and the point is, you can’t tell anything was ever done.
Posada’s wife and Damon’s wife look like they spend half their time in a plastic surgeon’s chair.
Sorry, that just doesn’t do it for me.
Don’t be so sure Pujols is clean.
Everybody thought A-Rod was clean until he wasn’t.
“He is worth A-Rod type money because he is clean.”
How can anyone be sure now a days?
Plastic surgery is a turn off to a lot of guys. Yeah, it may be eye candy for guys in their teens and early 20s, but that’s about it.
im not in the lineup game? i posted my line up in the previous thread at 4:45, which is when it was set to start. is this because im not on the 40 man roster?
S.A.–Serenity Now
I recently invited current troll du jour RDM to meet me Under The Banner. Told him it was where all the great LoHud posters met to discuss the Yanks in person.
He thanked me for the invite but declined because he lived too far away.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Phil Hughes finally cut that mop.
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Aww Erica…that means the rolling stone stopped gathering moss.
My guess for the lineup is this:
Damon LF
Swisher RF
Matsui DH
Tex 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Hairston JR 3B
Pena SS
Molina C
First off all, he will be 31-32 when his current contract is up. 2nd of all, if he is truly “Clean”, his prime years will be gone soon after that. 3rd of all, he ain’t clean.
I agree– falling in love and marrying a girl who is made of plastic is no fun.
Not to mention, who is going to give out that type of money besides the Yanks?
I agree– falling in love and marrying a girl who is made of plastic is no fun.
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I don’t know, real dolls don’t talk back
“Tiger, though, takes it to another level. They asked hime what clubs he used on his approaches on three different holes, and he immediately rattled off ‘6, 6 and 7? w/absolutely no hesitation. They should really check him for resistors and capacitors.”
welcome to the machine-
i first ran across the phenomenon of a golfer mentally going though every shot the way you describe it with tiger watching a senior tour player named dick rhyan do it after a round while he was casually having a beer with his friends.
i came to believe this mental side of golf is what allows the physical side to happen. rhyan was according to many the best ball striker on the senior tour at a time nicklaus and palmer and rodriduez were there.
the ability to remember backwards is really connected to the ability to visualize forward.
so if you really want to become a good golfer, improving your visual memory and visualization ability are about the best thing you can do.
1. Jeter ss
2. Damon lf
3. Teixeira 1b
4. Posada DH
5. Cano 2B
6. Swisher RF
7. Cabrera CF
8. Hairston jr. 3B
9. Molina C
I agree– falling in love and marrying a girl who is made of plastic is no fun.
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Ken wants to meet you under the O’Neill banner, for insulting his woman.
Hughes cut the mop before wed’s game. I saw him pre-game and he mop-less.
Why is ESPN showing super bowl highlights and acting like the game just ended?
Bronx Jeers August 13th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
S.A.–Serenity Now
I recently invited current troll du jour RDM to meet me Under The Banner. Told him it was where all the great LoHud posters met to discuss the Yanks in person.
He thanked me for the invite but declined because he lived too far away.
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LOL
I wonder if RDM is related to ransom sucks
Reading this still brings the tears to my eyes:
ransom sucks
April 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
IF YANKEES WANTED REAL FANS THEY WOULD DO A FIST FIGHTING TOURNAMENT OUTSIDE THE STADIUM. HAVE US FANS BRAWL IT OUT FOR THE TICKETS. WHOS WILLING TO GET HURT FOR A CHANCE TO WATCH HIS TEAM??? THATS THE QUESTION AND NONE IS ASKING IT.
Shame the Yankees never did this. Maybe next season.
Posada was/is a lawyer
Gaudin is going to become a teacher
Yankees lineup — Jeter 6 Damon 7 Tex 3 Matsui 0 Swisher 9 Cano 4 Cabrera 8 Hairston 5 Molina 2 CC 1
Via Bryanhoch
If my wife asked me for plastic surgery, I’d say “Nope”
Let’s put that money towards a new TV.
Hey, have your tech guys change a setting so that emoticons don’t get automatically placed into text, when you did Sabbathia’s line, the 8 ) got replaced with a smiley face.
Go Yanks, love your coverage!
Samrt of Girardi to not rest all 3 of Jeter/A-Rod/Posada in the same game.
Give Jeter tomorrow off.
Doesn’t plastic surgery kind of take the fun out of being a human?
Bronx Jeers: I hope to visit someday. I’ve been to Brazil and Argentina (too briefly for both) but not to the Pacific side. Ecuador appears in the Magnetic Fields song “I Don’t Really Love You Anymore”.
True I’d give my right arm
to keep you safe from harm
and true, for you I’d move to Ecuador
and I’d keep a little farm
chop wood to keep you warm
but I don’t really love you anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMbBGDMTeWo
awesome story Randy, and thanks for the tip (which I’ll definitely heed).
I know the old adage is ‘hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports’, but for me striking a golf ball consistently is infinitely harder.
Another winner for me!
Moving into 2nd place in the standings.
Hmm, suprised Jeter is playing…….he should get a rest, but if he’s not limping and he’s ok, he can rest tomorrow
YankeesJeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Matsui DH, Swisher 9, Cano 4, Cabrera 8, Hairston 5, Molina 2, Sabathia 1.
from Carig
“I know the old adage is ‘hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports’, but for me striking a golf ball consistently is infinitely harder.”
the problem is the little bastard sits there just daring you.
all kidding aside. the way you get around the fact there’s nothing moving is to have a pre shot routine that starts behind the ball.
all pros do it.
from the time a player stands behind the ball and visualizes what he or she wants to do, there is an exact timing to when the ball is struck. approaching the ball, positioning, waggling, etc have to be down to the split second.
if you get stuck over the ball, back off and go back and start all over.
and believe it or not you should do the same on all range shots .
Skip Bayless is a idiot, he said the Yankees would finish 4th at the start of the year.
Guys, I have been in the same room with posadas wife she might have enhanced her cup size.. But the rest is all natural she is gym rat. Her body is ridiculous and extremely bright.
4th in the division I mean
Guys, I have been in the same room with posadas wife she might have enhanced her cup size.. But the rest is all natural she is gym rat. Her body is ridiculous and Is an extremely bright individual.
Glenda, I agree with you. I think Randy Johnson could be close to the singularly most unattractive man I have ever seen. My friends and I used to have the “if X was working in the local Home Depot, would you look at him twice”, with X being a sports figure or rock star. We absolutely agreed to the nth degree that we would be grossed out looking at him.
We also would phrase it as “would you ever marry X”
Nobody ever gave Johnson a yes.
“Nobody ever gave Johnson a yes.”
tell that to his wife, lol
Kate Hudson is a pretty girl, just because she’s more pettite chest wise does not make her less. I think it’s better to be flat chested then have huge plastic boobs that go up to your neck.
I always felt the problem with Arod is he’s too “pretty” so people expect him to date someone who is on his level or even more. Anyways I think he and Kate make a nice couple, just have fun and enjoy your life I say.
Ed, that’s the whole point. Something makes me think that if Johnson’s wife saw him working in the aisle of a Home Depot as opposed to someone who had a lot of fame and fortune, she would probably pass him right by also. Add to the fact that he is horrible to look at that he seems to be a surly SOB. Yeah, quite the package.
“I think it’s better to be flat chested then have huge plastic boobs that go up to your neck.”
I’m with ya.
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and proud co-adopter of the Washington Nats August 13th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
“I think it’s better to be flat chested then have huge plastic boobs that go up to your neck.”
I’m with ya.
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so says the lonely hearts club.
YankeesLuv August 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Kate Hudson is a pretty girl, just because she’s more pettite chest wise does not make her less.
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Oh C’mon. That’s ridiculous.
Jeter ss
damon lf
teix 1b
arod dh
Po c
Matsui rf
cano 2b
Hinske 3b
Melky cf
Trisha,
you know she must be marrying him for his money. =X
When did Teix move to 3B?
jeter ss
damon lf
teix 1b
po c
matsui dh
cano 2b
melky cf
Hairston 3b
swisher rf
Saucy
August 13th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Jax Gmen August 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Isin’t it kind of sad that Chad Gaudin has a hotter girlfriend than A-Rod does?
I mean, I understand beauty is in the eye of the beholder but still… A-Rod is the richest man in sports, he can get anyone he wants!
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DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
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^^ not me
“so says the lonely hearts club.”
Awww. Don’t force me to get personal here. But if you saw my Stadium picture I am hardly flat chested, and trust me I’m not lonely.
It’s just that some females’ self esteem is not defined by their sexuality, and I happen to be one of them.
has there been a font coup?
Tex MVP August 13th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
“Big boobs does not = drop dead gorgeous.”
Not necessarily. Many men look for body over face.
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I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.
mine was close… i guess i’m lucky that close only counts in horseshoes, handgrenades, guess the line up, and bocce.
huh, molina for Sabathia again. what a surprise.
Jeter starting? Eh I dunno about that, he looked terrible limping around last night.
http://www.puristbleedspinstri.....-game.html
Please note I in no way, shape or form endorse or condone alcohol abuse, driving while intoxicated or irresponsible drinking.
The above is meant for humor and relieving the pain of games in Anaheim, only.
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and proud co-adopter of the Washington Nats August 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
“so says the lonely hearts club.”
Awww. Don’t force me to get personal here. But if you saw my Stadium picture I am hardly flat chested, and trust me I’m not lonely.
It’s just that some females’ self esteem is not defined by their sexuality, and I happen to be one of them.
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okay. Prove it. Post a link to your stadium picture. I dare you
p.s. nobody said self esteem is defined by their body shape. Look at Swisher, he has a good self esteem even though he sucks as a fielder and has below average looks. Ditto for that midget Pedoria.
“I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.”
I don’t know the exact percent but I would say the majority do.
Once we clinch the division, there is plenty of time to rest.
Men do look at body over face. That’s why we fawn over Chad Gaudin’s GF while downplaying Kate Hudson.
“I think it’s better to be flat chested then have huge plastic boobs that go up to your neck.”
I don’t.
“I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.”
Awww…i’m the 5% minority!
Bill August 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
“I think it’s better to be flat chested then have huge plastic boobs that go up to your neck.”
I don’t.
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EXACTLY!
the boyish kate hudson couldn’t hold Michelle Damon’s toe ring.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...../index.htm
Nick,
Thanks, I’ll have to remember to borrow some of those lyrics for this years playoff season when the wife gets jealous over my 1st true love.
But I don’t really love you anymore ?
I’ll just have to change that to “But I’ll really love you when the Yankees score ! “
Rebecca
I liked the game.
Sterling is driving me nuts this year. And I like the guy.
OT for dtv
dtv, the problem is that women generally grow up in a sexist society (I am speaking in general here, not accusing any particular individual of being sexist) and they are force fed messages that to be successful they need to look a certain way. Check out Madison Avenue and women in commercials. Body image is what is always played up. That and external beauty.
A lot of women unwittingly play into that. I have always gone in the other direction because I found it was the best way for me to be taken seriously in the professional world. I have never played up my looks. Maybe doing it the other way works for some women; it just doesn’t work for me.
It depends… it’s going to have to be a REALLY pretty face for me to discount the body.
If I were A-Rod, I’d wife up Sloan from Entourage.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....ture-2.jpg
Is it too much to ask A-Rod to date a Miss Universe winner or something?
Such wasted potential….
I’m sure Kate Hudson would just laugh if she knew some of you were sittin’ around critiquing her breast size. Or she’d kick you in the balls.
“…I went through a period of interviewing Kate Hudson every few months for a while in the early part of the decade. She’s the furthest thing from a bimbo, and a smart woman…
“I remember speaking with Hudson for the 2002 film “The Four Feathers” (what a dog that was). It was a roundtable scenario, with her and about half a dozen journalists, and after one of them asked the actress a question, another, evidently not paying attention, asked her the exact same question. BOY, DID KATE REALLY LET HER HAVE IT. IT WAS IMPRESSIVE.”
http://www.silive.com/entertai....._game.html
I’m sorry some don’t agree but I once saw a show where they showed implants being removed and I almost threw up. Let’s just say lot’s of loose skin.
Then there’s the part where if you want them normal looking you have to put the nips back where they are supposed to be. 
If you choose to keep the implants then you have to keep getting them replaced through the years, then let’s say you keep them how pretty do you think huge plastic boobs look when you’re 80, not pretty. When you get past the novelty part, it’s not that great.
I dunno how some people are baffled that Gaudins girl is ‘prettier then A-rods.
I mean I know there celebs and will get good looking girls but still it’s not all about looks ya know. Looks do matter but it’s not everything.
I’m much more attracted tp Kate Hudson than Michelle Damon.
Pretty easy to tell who’s more “authentic”.
Just my taste.
Yeah, Michalle Damon is TOO fake for my liking.
As usual, Jeter wins again. Minka is the best lookinh Yankee GF AND isin’t a Barbi Doll (from what I can tell)
Whew, its a good thing none of you guys have to ‘slum’ and settle for dating any of these women you’re critiquing.
hey kelvin says August 13th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I dunno how some people are baffled that Gaudins girl is ‘prettier then A-rods.
I mean I know there celebs and will get good looking girls but still it’s not all about looks ya know. Looks do matter but it’s not everything.
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Sure. But we’re talking about ARod aka Mr. Superficial, aka Narcissus — the guy who left the All Star Game in 3rd inning to attend a party.
I mean ARod so narcissistic, his mirror has a mirror.
Moreover, it would be one thing if it was just kate Hudson, but it’s a pattern – one underperfomer after another.
I still can’t believe ARod kissed that mirror lol
M’s lineup…
http://twitpic.com/dseom
Josh Wilson called up to replace Adrian.
tweet from Shannon (M’s reporter)…
shannondrayer
Sorry last tweet while Wak was speaking. Beltre on DL with a tear in his testicle suffered last night on a ground ball
Yikes! Poor Adrian ;-(
“trying to think of my fave female athelte looks wise”
I will say Martina Hingis in 1997
US Open
no words do justice
Syndal, I never saw her face
Maria August 13th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I’m sure Kate Hudson would just laugh if she knew some of you were sittin’ around critiquing her breast size. Or she’d kick you in the balls.
“…I went through a period of interviewing Kate Hudson every few months for a while in the early part of the decade. She’s the furthest thing from a bimbo, and a smart woman…
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If kate is so smart why have all of her movies been financial bombs.
Dont they need an extra pitcher on saturday and sunday. You wont have Gaudin out of the bullpen available because he is starting and Joba is not available. Mitre doesnt pitch more than 5 innings. They are going to be short a couple of pitchers there bullpen will get fried.
“trying to think of my fave female athelte looks wise”
I will say Martina Hingis in 1997
US Open
no words do justice
if we are going back in time
Katerina Witt for me – back when commies were commies
tweet from Shannon (M’s reporter)…
shannondrayer
Sorry last tweet while Wak was speaking. Beltre on DL with a tear in his testicle suffered last night on a ground ball
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Ouch
“I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.”
“Awww…i’m the 5% minority!”
always been in the minority as well.
“If I were A-Rod, I’d wife up Sloan from Entourage.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo…..ture-2.jpg”
Love Sloan.
She’s right up my alley.
think posada and a rod can play tommrow?
“Katerina Witt for me – back when commies were commies”
lol
Lol all her movies haven’t been crap
ransom sucks April 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I’M BRINGING MY LITTLE BROTHER TO THE GAME TOMORROW AND I HOPE YOU HOOLIGANS WON’T BE MESSING WITH HIM, HES ONLY 12. I’M GAME THOUGH.
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Gold, Jerry, gold!
what’s funny is ‘Ransom Sucks’ continued to be a regular poster.
“I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.”
I’d agree with that with the addition that while I look at body Over face, doesn’t mean I don’t look at the face as well.
“I’d agree with that with the addition that while I look at body Over face, doesn’t mean I don’t look at the face as well”
wow. you’re really different
dtv should have a sleepover with rdm so they can obsess over A-Rod and share tactics for stalking him.
A real boys club.
Body over face? Wow, lot of butter face lovers in here huh?
Body vs. face isn’t a compromise that necessarily has to be made, at least when you’re talking about personal ideals…
I kind of like Zhang Ziyi in ’2046′:
http://www.helloziyi.us/Galleries/2046-005.jpg
Of course Maggie Cheung (see also “In the Mood For Love”) and Gong Li and Faye Wong and Carina Lau are stylish and beautiful on that film too…
Wong Kar-wai knew what he was doing.
Does that make me as old as Uncle Ellsworth? lol. I actually know who Katerina Witt is.
BellaSakura August 13th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Body over face? Wow, lot of butter face lovers in here huh?
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Guys will be Guys.
But think about it, how many guys would be interested in someone who had a great face, who had an average or awful body.
“Wong Kar-wai knew what he was doing.”
He sure did. 2046 was fantastic for many reasons.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 13th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Does that make me as old as Uncle Ellsworth? lol. I actually know who Katerina Witt is.
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lol Count me in too.
I still remember the 1988 Olympics and the “Battle of the Carmens” between her and Debbie Thomas(I think that’s right). Witt won the gold, Thomas the bronze and some Canadian skater the silver
I mean I’ve been with chicks that haven’t had the best of bods, but cute faces nice personality.
Is that outrageous? Not at all.
What do you consider an average body?
I’m pretty sure the majority of guys are dating or are married to women average bodies.
What is this “body over face” crap?
Are you guys 16?
I evaluate EVERYTHING. Body, face, personality, intelligence.
Its all part of the process. A woman with a perfect face and body is no good if she’s a moron and/or a b-tch.
I certainly never dated a girl based on one aspect of her. If that was the case, eventually everything else about her would annoy me. If I did that my relationships would last weeks at best.
BellaSakura
August 13th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Body over face? Wow, lot of butter face lovers in here huh?
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LOL good point.
BellaSakura August 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
What do you consider an average body?
I’m pretty sure the majority of guys are dating or are married to women average bodies.
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http://deceiver.com/wp-content.....eneres.jpg
ellen degeneres.
Vick signs 2 year deal with eagles!!!!
“Michael Vick has signed a two-year deal with the Eagles. His agent, Joel Segal, confirmed to ESPN.com.”
LOL miggs it takes some guys long past 16 to truly understand what you just said.
miggs August 13th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
What is this “body over face” crap?
Are you guys 16?
I evaluate EVERYTHING. Body, face, personality, intelligence.
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Who are you Stephen Hawkins?
Rainouts for game two of Scranton/Reading. Scranton lost 4-2. Jackson was 1-2. Duncan homered.
Charleston and Tampa rained out.
McAllister pitched for Trenton. 5 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 03 strikeouts.
Staten Island has a 3-0 lead on Neill Medchill’s 3 run homer. Sean Black has a no hitter through 6. 2 walks, 8 strikeouts. Angelini has a double.
Wow these threads really go off the track when the games don’t start until 10PM. LOL.
I guess I’m just as guilty as anyone for contributing to the conversation.
But you have to wonder about most of these guys touting a “great body” as the most important factor in a woman. Where did the 95% come from? That’s a lot of guys not getting any action.
Eagles? I know I haven’t been paying much attention but that surprises me.
Vick going to the eagles, 2 yr deal.
I have barely seen Minka Kelly so was expecting better when I saw her. She was on the Late Late Show last week promoting a movie she was in.
The question, “tell us about the movie.” was more than she could handle.
If the attraction is her looks, she better hope they never fade because there’s not much else going on.
lol miggs, I think the game needs to start soon. And I don’t agree with the 95% thing either.
Nick,
2046 was an awesome movie, good choice on the actress.
“I mean I’ve been with chicks that haven’t had the best of bods, but cute faces nice personality”
nothing wrong with that.
Smh only dudes to talk about personality and intellect are me and miggs.
Hey I’m young tho just 20, I think I’m probanly one of the younger/est readers here?
“Vick going to the eagles, 2 yr deal”
an additional factor to not like the Eagles.
go GIANTS !
Yep, I remember that too, SA.
I’ll make myself even older. I remember Torvill and Dean, lol.
Donovan McNabb’s reaction to the Vick signing should be priceless. He was inconsolable after the Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round a couple of years back.
I think it’s just McNabb being paranoid, because Donovan still has some good football left in him.
YankeesLuv
August 13th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
lol miggs, I think the game needs to start soon. And I don’t agree with the 95% thing either.
95% of guys don’t agree with the 95% thing.
“I’d say 95% of men look for body over face.”
That’s because most guys think with their head. And not the one above the neck.
“Smh only dudes to talk about personality and intellect are me and miggs.”
Amazingly enough those are actually factors lots of guys consider. Just apparently not on this board.
What’s green and wears figure skates?
2046 is indeed a wonderful movie, beautifully shot.
“Donovan McNabb’s reaction to the Vick signing should be priceless. He was inconsolable after the Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round a couple of years back”
wasn’t McNabb a dogfigter back in his pre-Eagles/pre-Syracuse days?
at least, i had heard that rumor.
“I have barely seen Minka Kelly so was expecting better when I saw her. She was on the Late Late Show last week promoting a movie she was in.
The question, “tell us about the movie.” was more than she could handle.
If the attraction is her looks, she better hope they never fade because there’s not much else going on.”
Craig worked HARD during that interview. LOL
95% of guys don’t agree with the 95% thing.
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lol Uncle
Intelect/wit are the two main factors I look for in a woman.
Damn, I wanted the Jets to sign Vick.
As long as she has the body, the rest is gravy. She can be dumb as bricks and have a Freddy Kruger face.
Just gotta have the body.
Gomes has 3 HR on the evening.
What’s green and wears figure skates
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What?
What happened to this thread
Pete, can you start part II of this thread?
Go CC w/this line up tonight!!!! Good night to rest A Rod as Sux lost
“As long as she has the body, the rest is gravy. She can be dumb as bricks and have a Freddy Kruger face.
Just gotta have the body.”
This one hasn’t quite evolved yet.
What do you do? Put a bag on her head and never talk to her? Just stare at her body? LOL.
Tom in N.J.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
What’s green and wears figure skates
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What?
Peggy Phlegm
Remember, the last time CC faced the Ms he got lit up
This is no gimme game. Snell has had some good games in the past, throws hard with a nice changeup. He could keep us off balance. We’ll undoubtedly be tired too.
Vick to the Eagles for two years. Either they fell McNab will not get the job done and get injuried like he does most seasons or they want McNabb out of philly
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 13th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Yep, I remember that too, SA.
I’ll make myself even older. I remember Torvill and Dean, lol.
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lol I was around for that, but don’t really remember watching them. 84 Olympics right?
Tom in N.J. August 13th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Intelect/wit are the two main factors I look for in a woman.
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To paraphrase Curt Schilling’s famous joke about “Yankee Mystique and Aura” — Intellect and Wit must be two strippers in Brooklyn.
DVT–If all her movies were financial bombs–trust me–she wouldn’t be getting jobs. She doesn’t do shoot ‘em ups or sci-fi or kid’s films, which takes her out of the blockbuster category, but for mostly doing comedies she does quite well. Enough to rank her the 7th highest paid actress in 2007.
Bride Wars $115,000 (in millions)
Fool’s Gold $111,000
You, Me and Dupree 130,000
Skeleton Key 92,000
How to Lose a Guy 177,000
Almost Famous 47,000 (too bad since this was clearly her best)
She’s had some duds for sure but overall a very good track record, which puts her on the A-list. I liked them all except Fool’s Gold and Four Feathers.
The bad news and the good news.
The bad news: Seattle is a tough team. They have the third highest road win total (29) in the entire AL.
The good news: Seattle is at home.
Well I am a huge Cowboy fan…so Vick going to Eagles really is another reason to dislike them….
Am I missing something? Don’t the Yankees have one of the best road records in the majors? How is it that they are called “remarkably average”? I’ve always thought of the Yankes as a very good road team…..
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy
Arroyo with 7 sparkling innings for the Reds tonight.
2 hits no runs 85 pitches.
Great chance for a complete game shutout.
What’s green and wears figure skates?
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Kermit Boitano?
Sounds like bad news on both Jorge and Alex, particularly Alex. Swisher took forever to recover from that nasty bruise and it sounds like Alex suffered an even worse injury. Terrific…..
“What do you do? Put a bag on her head and never talk to her? Just stare at her body? LOL.”
Well if she lets me, then yes, putting a bag over her head is preferable. I’ll talk to her a couple of times a day – say hello, good morning, good night, etc.
YankeesLuv August 13th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
95% of guys don’t agree with the 95% thing.
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lol Uncle
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I don’t agree with the 95% thing either, it’s higher
CC will have a big, big game tonight.
“What’s green and wears figure skates?”
Damon in LF on St. Patrick’s Day?
That beltre injury made me and my father cringe
No Cup, what the heck is he thinking. Thats had to hurt!!
“UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: It hurts just to write this. But Seattle 3B Adrian Beltre could be done for the season after taking a bad-hop grounder in the groin last night. It caused tearing in one of his testicles along with internal bleeding and he could require surgery. Beltre does not use a cup.”
How can you be a professional baseball player, an infielder especially, and not wear a cup,?
Besides catcher 3rd base would be the most dangerous position for that type of injury. Hard to feel sorry for the guy, its his own fault.
What kind of MLB player doesn’t wear a cup? Geez…
lol Glenda
I had to google that, Uncle.
Before my time.
http://www.archiebonkers.com/oneliners/mjoke1.html
Ouch Beltre.
RIP ball.
“Arroyo with 7 sparkling innings for the Reds tonight.
2 hits no runs 85 pitches.
Great chance for a complete game shutout”
in a secluded corner, of a Long Island home, Mike Francessa is performing unspeakable acts.
Hey, according to Pete’s line up, Tex and Hairston are playing 3B LOL….Do we get 10 guys on the field tonight…..LOL
The catcher on my highschool baseball team ruptured one of his one of his testicles in a game. To this day, I can still hear that scream.
I find that the deeper in love I fall, the more beautiful the girl becomes.
“The catcher on my highschool baseball team ruptured one of his one of his testicles in a game. To this day, I can still hear that scream”
daaaam
Very true Nick.
hmmm… the horizontal ad above says “Mariner Official Site”
that could cause some confusion considering who the Yanks are playing tonight.
(it’s a car ad)
“What kind of MLB player doesn’t wear a cup? Geez…”
One who doesn’t value his family jewels.
Nick in SF in Larkspur August 13th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I find that the deeper in love I fall, the more beautiful the girl becomes.
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Hahahhahhahahhahahhahahah
Do you write greeting cards or something?
You should write a Hallmark card that says this:
“Love is blind, but Marriage is a real eye opener”
# Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper. August 13th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
“What kind of MLB player doesn’t wear a cup? Geez…”
One who doesn’t value his family jewels.
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Someone who’s more interested in a woman’s “intellect and wit” than her shape.
Griffey once said he doesn’t wear a cup but he does play in the outfield.
That’s very sweet Nick.
new mobile blog rocks… thanks pete
Cups aren’t all that comfortable, but I can’t imagine not protecting yourself despite the comfort factor. Bet he wished he did wear them now.
So that’s why Manny took the female drugs…he wouldn’t have any male problems like this. He was smart after all.
“Hey I’m young tho just 20, I think I’m probanly one of the younger/est readers here?”
Nope. I’m a little bit younger. I win.
loving the new mobile blog…i just wish there was a way to store user names and email addresses…otherwise, it’s excellent (and no longer drains my battery
)
Note to self: Same properties apply when choosing bat as in choosing sword.
You need something with the right balance that is not too long.
This whole thread is just unbelievable.
A couple of weeks ago, someone chided one our female posters for her Nick Markakis “obsession.” Which was all in fun, and not even a tenth as objectifying as half of what I’ve read here tonight.
Oooo, the Beltre thing does hurt.
That’s one injury that could never happen to Youklis…doesn’t have any.
so Adrian Beltre goes commando?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1031.....idea-jeans
from earlier today:
“I might start my own blog and change for regestration.”
gb7-
have i got a blog for you
I need help. What’s the best way to kill half an hour before the game starts?
“A couple of weeks ago, someone chided one our female posters for her Nick Markakis “obsession.” Which was all in fun, and not even a tenth as objectifying as half of what I’ve read here tonight”
some of what was posted (by males) in this thread, is actually favorable toward a woman. And very respectful
In honor of Beltre’s fallen soldier, for every AB for the rest of his career, he will be spotted ball 1.
>That’s one injury that could never happen to Youklis…doesn’t have any.
Not true. They’re usually on his chin.
from earlier today:
“I might start my own blog and change for regestration.”
gb7-
have i got a blog for you
I might start my own blog, invite all the trolls and charge for regurgitation.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: It hurts just to write this. But Seattle 3B Adrian Beltre could be done for the season after taking a bad-hop grounder in the groin last night. It caused tearing in one of his testicles along with internal bleeding and he could require surgery. ”
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And this folks concludes tonight’s episode of “Who’s Hot, Who’s Not ”
Tune in tomorrow when we’ll discuss paper vs. plastic grocery bags or any other topic that keeps our minds off the phrase “torn testicle”.
“In honor of Beltre’s fallen soldier, for every AB for the rest of his career, he will be spotted ball 1″
line of the month !!
Every year is a world series year
August 13th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I need help. What’s the best way to kill half an hour before the game starts?
They’ve come up with these really cool things called “books”
vinny-b
There were maybe 2 or 3 individuals who tried to buck the trend. And a few who ignored the subject altogether. That the subject covered like 3/4 of the posts is ridiculous. And now I’ve added to it. So, no more on this from me.
PEL…
That’s the first time I’ve appreciated one of your comments!
JJ
August 13th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
NITRO
August 13th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Johnny Damon’s wife > all other wives
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You saw Erica’s picture? If not, how would you know?
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This is the greatest post ever. Alas, I am Johnny Damon’s pretend girlfriend. Not wife
“Wong Kar-wai knew what he was doing.”
In the Mood for Love was utterly incomparable… The final scene at Angkor Watt find that perfect sweet spot where puzzling overlaps with breathtaking.
Maggie Cheung and Tony Leung in that movie…
Days of Being Wild, Cheung King Express, Happy Together, Fallen Angel… just amazing stuff.
His collaboration with Christopher Doyle has been just unbelievable.
A-Rod and Kate Hudson hanging out in Seattle.
http://naughtybyniemczyk.tumbl.....on-seattle
“They’ve come up with these really cool things called “books”
No thank you. I’m starting college in a month and don’t want to read any extra “books”.
Bedard really has been a bust. That guy reminds me of Pavano. Now needing shoulder surgery.
Congratulations go out to our two winners of today’s “Guess the Line Up”.
Rob in VT 4:47
Miggs 6:11
Thank you to all who participated. We had 51 entries today with 29 different line up combinations. That is pretty amazing
CB,
don’t forget “As Tears goes by”. it was another brilliant movie.
Doreen, I feel the way you do…….I just wasn’t going to say anything. Good for you.
I just hate it when starlets dress as ugly as possible. They have so much money and just don’t know what to do with it.
If I was a star, I’d have someone dress me. Someone with good taste.
“don’t forget “As Tears goes by”. it was another brilliant movie.”
Another great one. His first,IIRC. What a body of work.
I do think In the Mood for Love was the best film of the whole lot… but so much of it has been scintillating.
Here are the current standings for “Guess the Line Up”.
After 18 rounds, there have been 50 different winners. Here are the participants with 2 wins or more:
Ramey – 5 Wins – 7/22, 7/21, 8/6, 8/7, 8/11
Miggs – 4 wins – 7/23, 8/6, 8/11, 8/13
Andrew – 3 wins – 7/27, 8/6, 8/11
CM – 3 wins – 8/5, 8/6, 8/7
NYY626 – 3 wins – 8/4, 8/6, 8/7
Patrick (the Prospect Hugger) – 3 Wins – 7/27,7/17, 8/7
RayVT – 3 wins – 8/5, 8/7, 8/13
WTWVTSC- 3 Wins – 7/24, 8/6, 8/11
YankeeRay – 3 Wins – 8/5, 8/6, 8/7
Yanksfan – 3 Wins – 7/28, 7/29, 8/6
Dan the Man – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
Eights – 2 wins – 7/27, 8/6
Evan D – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/11
Henner – 2 wins – 7/27, 8/7
IDCWYT – 2 wins – 7/28, 8/6
Jon Locke – 2 wins – 8/5, 8/6
SA – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
Upstate Kate – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
William Buckner – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/11
Joe Girardi (no winner) 7/30, 7/31, 8/10, 8/12
Eh, I am so not a celebrity person. My big celebrities are all athletes…..
“A couple of weeks ago, someone chided one our female posters for her Nick Markakis “obsession.” Which was all in fun, and not even a tenth as objectifying as half of what I’ve read here tonight.”
I remember that post. Don’t remember who was giving erica a hard time.
But it does look particularly hypocritical after what’s gone on this thread.
m -
I think they dress down deliberately. For two reasons – one, trying to be “incognito,” and two, it’s a lot less fussy and a lot more comfortable.
Dave – I am glad I found a soul mate re Skip Bayless – a pathetic writer who might as well wear a sign that says I hate the Yankees – that is a show whose class comes from Pete Abe -
Belre got the walk off run in that marathon 14th inning game,against the CWS.
CB
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
“A couple of weeks ago, someone chided one our female posters for her Nick Markakis “obsession.” Which was all in fun, and not even a tenth as objectifying as half of what I’ve read here tonight.”
I remember that post. Don’t remember who was giving erica a hard time.
But it does look particularly hypocritical after what’s gone on this thread.
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It wasn’t me getting a hard time. No one would dare!!!
CB,
to be honest, I think Fallen Angels wasn’t that good. I found it pretty boring. As for In the Mood for Love, it was superb. Good choice of actors and solid script. I’m Asian myself, I watch alot of Wong Kar Wei’s movies. Tony Leung and Andy Lau are very solid in his movies.
Erica,
Thanks for doing the GTLU contest. I’d bet you never thought it would get this big or this complicated so fast. Maybe you’d better make a new rule. On odd numbered days on the calender only men can participate and only women on even days. Or something like that.
Maria August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
A-Rod and Kate Hudson hanging out in Seattle.
http://naughtybyniemczyk.tumbl…..on-seattle
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Poor ARod. Now I feel sorry for him. Kate looks like a real “chatterbox.”
Actually another anti-Yankee sportswriter is the overrated Tom Boswell on the Washingotn Post – just an anti-NY kind of guy
CB -
Erica is Johnny Damon.
And we all kind of go along with ( and even support) her pretend relationship. 
I remember who that poster was and actually he’s not being hypocritical……..his stance about Markakis is the same as his stance tonight
Awww, Doreen, it’s an understandably superficial conversation that is almost by necessity predicated primarily on one’s superficial impressions of physical attributes.
It all started with links to a pic of Chad Gaudin’s girlfriend, a former Hooters girl and pageant entrant. She is no stranger to objectification and I can think of at least two reasons why she wouldn’t take offense at most of what was said here (with the possible exception of one commenter ‘m’ calling her a butterface).
CB: I’m a fan of all of those films you named, great stuff. “Chungking Express” was the first one I ever saw, playing at a film festival in SF. I didn’t even know who he was, but I read the blurb in the catalog and wanted to see it because I had once stayed in the Chungking Mansions in HK. That movie really opened my eyes.
Why does anyone care what Alex is doing or not doing with Kate Hudson? I guess I don’t get it because I am not interested in gossip in the least……
Man, the Mariners finally solidify the left side of their infield -acquiring Jack Wilson and getting Adrian back from the DL- and just when things start clicking, they lose both of them
dtv August 13th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Maria August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
A-Rod and Kate Hudson hanging out in Seattle.
http://naughtybyniemczyk.tumbl…..on-seattle
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Poor ARod. Now I feel sorry for him. Kate looks like a real “chatterbox.”
Because talking to someone = chatter box.
Ed H.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Erica,
Thanks for doing the GTLU contest. I’d bet you never thought it would get this big or this complicated so fast. Maybe you’d better make a new rule. On odd numbered days on the calender only men can participate and only women on even days. Or something like that.
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Thank you so much for saying that. Honestly, it snowballed so much quicker than I ever thought it would. I really need to consider the best way to go forward because I would hate to see this game become a victim of it’s popularity, but the truth is- I really am having trouble keeping track of all the entries. Plus, there are people who completely ignore my rules and instructions which just make it all the more difficult for me and ruin the game for others.
Males/Females alternating is a decent idea, but its hard to tell who is female and who isn’t and I don’t want to leave people out.
I know people really like the contest so I am going to try to keep it going, but I am not sure how much longer I can.
I have a couple of hundred Shaw Bros and other Asian flicks.
Eric, I agree with you about Boswell. He goes out of his way to denigrate the Yanks. Somehow, years ago he used to seem better than he does now.
“Poor ARod. Now I feel sorry for him. Kate looks like a real “chatterbox.””
Poor Kate. Alex doesn’t preform well under pressure.
Gosh I need this game to start.
Ed,
Fallen Angel was close to being too over the top in terms of visual style. Maybe it was. Definitely not his greatest but I liked it. It was not cheung king express…
2046 i both liked and was somewhat disappointed by. I was expecting a lot and while good it wasn’t nearly as good as In the Mood for Love.
Remember the hotel room they were staying In the Mood for Love… #2046.
Not sure what that number signifies to Wong Kar Wai.
m
Starlets don’t pay for clothes, they are given to them. Swag is an amazing concept wasted on the rich.
There is no prize, everyone can just post a lineup they like and then if they win they can post about. Who cares?
Doreen,
Trust me, my rubbah slippas are more comfortable than those things Kate’s wearing. Yuck.
I’m not a fashionista or anything, but gross. But if you’ve seen a picture of her ex-husband you wouldn’t be surprised that she dresses like a hippy.
I’m sure she’s a nice girl, though. I wonder if she ever cut Ryder’s hair? Poor child looked like a girl when he was a toddler.
Every year is a world series year August 13th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“Poor ARod. Now I feel sorry for him. Kate looks like a real “chatterbox.””
Poor Kate. Alex doesn’t preform well under pressure.
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LOL! Funny in more ways than one.
’2046′ could signify a number of things, but among them 2046 is the last year before the expiration of Beijing’s promise to govern HK as a seperate political entity.
My point was that what was good for the good was not good for the gander. The “discussion” today went on and on with almost nary a complaint. But the “objectification” of Nick Markakis was objected to quite strongly as having no place on this blog, and it reached nowhere near the same proportions, neither in length, nor depth of discussion (or lack thereof).
“Maria August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
A-Rod and Kate Hudson hanging out in Seattle.
http://naughtybyniemczyk.tumbl…..on-seattle”
hmmm… do you recognize who is walking behind Arod?
hint… it’s not Cousin Itt.
Wow Verlander was legitimately hitting 100 today. In the 8th inning. On his 123rd pitcher.
Dude is a stud
Darn typo! Good for the GOOSE.
meant to say “on his 123rd pitch”
CB,
According to Wikipeida:
-Total secrecy surrounded the movie before its release, and this led to a lot of speculation as to the significance of the number “2046″. Many thought the title referenced the year in which the movie would be set, and that it would be a science fiction film. It also became an in-joke that the title would actually refer to the year of release.
-2046 is the number of the hotel room in In the Mood for Love in which Tony Leung Chiu Wai and Maggie Cheung’s characters meet to write their kung fu novel serial. It is the number of a hotel room occupied by Lulu, and later by Bai Ling at the Oriental Hotel, while Tony Leung’s room number is 2047.
“But I read the blurb in the catalog and wanted to see it because I had once stayed in the Chungking Mansions in HK. That movie really opened my eyes.”
Never stayed in ChungKing Mansions. But that movie always makes me think of Kowloon. Always liked the nightmarket in Kowloon. Not the best in the area but there’s something about it I just liked.
Plus, there are people who completely ignore my rules and instructions which just make it all the more difficult for me and ruin the game for others.
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I think that this will get better after you’ve ruthlessly enforced the rules for several days.
It’s a great game and it was an excellent idea that you’ve ad to start it. Have you noticed that complaints about the lineup have gone way down since you started the game?
Another thing you might try is to shorten the amount of time each day that people can enter. That might help to keep the number of entries manageable. I hope somjething works out. Like I said, it’s really fun to play.
““UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: It hurts just to write this. But Seattle 3B Adrian Beltre could be done for the season after taking a bad-hop grounder in the groin last night. It caused tearing in one of his testicles along with internal bleeding and he could require surgery. Beltre does not use a cup.”
How can you be a professional baseball player, an infielder especially, and not wear a cup,?”
Believe it or not there are latinos that have this crazy thinking that you aren’t a real baseball player unless you play w/o a cup, something about being hardcore…. I’m latino and I still have my package intact, I’M AWESOME! Beltre? Not.
There was no objectifying of Nick Markakis. Somebody was just grumpy that day and didn’t want to hear about it anymore.
Jake Peavy on pace to make his first AL start against the Yankees in YS.
Should be interesting…
I think it was Laura who got *chided* for her Nick Markakis comments.
Lets go Yankees!!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 13th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I think it was Laura who got *chided* for her Nick Markakis comments.
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YES!!! That was it.
And really, the comments said about women today on this thread were so much more brash than anything she ever would have said
Erica – always OPPC August 13th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Congratulations go out to our two winners of today’s “Guess the Line Up”.
Rob in VT 4:47
Miggs 6:11
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Thanks Erica……and only my 2nd time playing.
Thanks also for all the time you put in to organizing the contest.
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The person behind Kate? Totally looks like Cano. But he looks to short.
“do you recognize who is walking behind Arod?”
His brother and nephew.
Doreen
That is becuase most of us stay away while the boys acted like well boys. BTW sent u a message on fb
Erica,
Sorry about the mix ups! I thought that post was complaining about the whole pretend boy friend phenomenon in general rather than about a specific player and thus Johnny and you popped into mind. But I’m glad to hear it wasn’t you and your non-significant other who were the subject of controversy.
Ed-
Thanks again. I have considered shortening the submission window, but there are already people who complain that they can’t submit when I tell them (of course, they usually post entries anyway, that I ignore)
I try very hard to enforce my rules, but I just get made fun of. I don’t really care about that, but if I can’t think of something thats fair to everyone (and me), I might have to pull the plug. But I hope I don’t have to
How can you be a professional baseball player, an infielder especially, and not wear a cup,?”
Believe it or not there are latinos that have this crazy thinking that you aren’t a real baseball player unless you play w/o a cup, something about being hardcore…. I’m latino and I still have my package intact, I’M AWESOME! Beltre? Not.
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Adrian Beltre played 5 innings without a nut, including scoring the winning run.
Beltre > Brandon
Even alphabetically he is more awesome.
“m
August 13th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
The person behind Kate? Totally looks like Cano. But he looks to short.”
The guy in back of Arod looks like famous cousin Yuri to me.
m -
I know Markakis was not objectified, which is why I put that word in quotes.
There’s a double standard.
And the subject of the “hot baseball wife/girlfriend” is tiresome.
So, next time, I’ll do like Betsy did and just ignore the whole thing.
Rob in VT-
You are welcome!!! And congratulations. It’s people like you who really like it, that I do this for
“‘2046? could signify a number of things, but among them 2046 is the last year before the expiration of Beijing’s promise to govern HK as a seperate political entity.”
Your a sharp one San Francisco guy. Can’t even get a cinematic brian bruney fastball by you…
We will see if Jake Peavy can cut it in the AL now that he is no longer in the easy confines of NL West. I think he won’t be as good, and he will fail in big games and the playoffs, because he always does.
@Doreen: sure, your general point is well taken, but unless you have specific examples of hypocrisy from both conversations (an individual objecting to one, participating in the other, for example), what have you really proven? That most folks are more likely to chat about the attributes of females than males on a baseball blog and some small minority will vocally object if females chat about the attributes of males? Shocker!
And there were a few who complained about today’s conversation, so the only real difference is in degree and volume. We’re not that bad!
Ed: you should have gone a little further on wikipedia:
“The year 2046 has its own significance for Hong Kong. It is 49 years after the handover of Hong Kong by the British on 1 July 1997. At the time of handover, the Mainland government promised fifty years of self-regulation for the former British colony. The year 2046, then, references the moment before Hong Kong’s special, self-regulated status ends.”
CB
August 13th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Erica,
Sorry about the mix ups! I thought that post was complaining about the whole pretend boy friend phenomenon in general rather than about a specific player and thus Johnny and you popped into mind. But I’m glad to hear it wasn’t you and your non-significant other who were the subject of controversy.
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My crush on MPB Johnny Damon is more of me generally supporting one of my favorite players. I am very careful to never objectify him. I happen to think Johnny is an amazing player to watch and his work with Wounded Warrier is inspirational. Cheering for him is easy so I have made him my pretend boyfriend. No one would dare mess with that
“The guy in back of Arod looks like famous cousin Yuri to me.”
Its not. Yuri looks similar, but its not a match, and the arms are too thin compared to Yuri.
Primo Yuri.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/.....sucart.jpg
“Adrian Beltre played 5 innings without a nut, including scoring the winning run.
Beltre > Brandon
Even alphabetically he is more awesome.”
Brandon doesn’t need surjery performed on his nuts, and Brandon scores everyday.
Brandon I’m Awesome! >>> the nutless Beltre
CB: I totally read that somewhere earlier, no way I would have figured that out by myself!
Enjoy the game, good people, I have to cross the lovely Golden Gate Bridge now to go home and watch via dvr from the start.
Predict how late will this one go.
Erica,
I hope not too! I know you’ll do the best you can.
way to go Jete
Yeah. How dare he strike out. That never happens in baseball.
Are you going to any of the Oakland games, Nick?
Jennifer =
I was away from the blog for the better part of the last 3 days. I read this thread all in one sitting.
I wonder how much of this game I’m going to be able to stay awake for.
Corrected standings (I mixed up RayVT and Rob in VT.. yipes!)
Here are the current standings for “Guess the Line Up”. After 18 rounds, there have been 51 different winners. Here are the participants with 2 wins or more:
Ramey – 5 Wins – 7/22, 7/21, 8/6, 8/7, 8/11
Miggs – 4 wins – 7/23, 8/6, 8/11, 8/13
Andrew – 3 wins – 7/27, 8/6, 8/11
CM – 3 wins – 8/5, 8/6, 8/7
NYY626 – 3 wins – 8/4, 8/6, 8/7
Patrick (the Prospect Hugger) – 3 Wins – 7/27,7/17, 8/7
WTWVTSC- 3 Wins – 7/24, 8/6, 8/11
YankeeRay – 3 Wins – 8/5, 8/6, 8/7
Yanksfan – 3 Wins – 7/28, 7/29, 8/6
Dan the Man – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
Eights – 2 wins – 7/27, 8/6
Evan D – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/11
Henner – 2 wins – 7/27, 8/7
IDCWYT – 2 wins – 7/28, 8/6
Jon Locke – 2 wins – 8/5, 8/6
RayVT – 2 wins – 8/5, 8/7
SA – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
Upstate Kate – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/7
William Buckner – 2 wins – 8/6, 8/11
“And really, the comments said about women today on this thread were so much more brash than anything she ever would have said”
I purposely stayed out of the conversation because of the double standard being applied.
three crummy ab’s to start!
1-2-3. Hopefully CC can match.
Hi Rob in VT (waving from my desk).
Hard to believe a guy with Snell’s stuff could have turned out so badly in Pittsburgh.
It’s been a bad situation there for such a long time. Neil Huntington really made a mistake making an issue of Snell’s contract publicly.
Doreen-
I was wondering the same thing. I was at my desk by 7:45 this morning and need to be back there at the same time tomorrow. Staying up to 1am might be ugly
I get liking Damon as a player, he just seems like a good guy who has a blast playing the game. I liked him even when he played for the Red Sox.
Now that he’s a Yankee I guess there is less shame in admitting that, lol.
The yankees obviously missed the scouting report on snell.
Just saw the pic of Alex and Kate. Is Kate really small or is Alex just huge?
Also, how come I never see Kate with her kid? She’s always at a game. Shouldn’t she be somewhere mothering her child?
Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
“And really, the comments said about women today on this thread were so much more brash than anything she ever would have said”
I purposely stayed out of the conversation because of the double standard being applied.
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I am sorry I didn’t do more to support you that day. I should have jumped in.
I took tomorrow off. Its going to be in the 90s here and the lake is calling my name.
Wondering how many fans here think Snell is garbage now.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 13th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
I get liking Damon as a player, he just seems like a good guy who has a blast playing the game. I liked him even when he played for the Red Sox.
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No shame in that! That was when it started for me. I had to wish with all of my being to turn him into a Yankee
Brandon…I’M AWESOME!… Mitre: “I’m not an ace”
August 13th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Wondering how many fans here think Snell is garbage now.
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Down Brandon-
it was one inning
Erica – always OPPC August 13th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
My crush on MPB Johnny Damon is more of me generally supporting one of my favorite players. I am very careful to never objectify him. I happen to think Johnny is an amazing player to watch and his work with Wounded Warrier is inspirational. Cheering for him is easy so I have made him my pretend boyfriend. No one would dare mess with that
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Sure. Sure.
His gorgeous eyes are simply incidental. You’d have the same crush if he looked like Larry King (frog).
UPDATE, 10:11 p.m: 62 degrees here. Feinsand forgot his jacket, too.
Pete should bring an extra Devils or Rangers jacket for those special occasions.
That inning was all yankees bats. Jeter swinging at garbage, Damon swinging at the 2nd pitch, Tex swinging away.
They forgot Snell walked 6 dudes in an inning his last time out
Brandon it is one inning. lets not get carried away.
The Yanks definitely lucked-out missing Felix Hernandez. He was absolutely dealing last night.
“I am sorry I didn’t do more to support you that day. I should have jumped in.”
No worries, Erica. I’m a big girl; I can take care of myself.
“The yankees obviously missed the scouting report on snell.”
They swung at one pitch out of the zone.
Snell may be changing the scouting report. There was no reason why he should have been that bad in Pittsburgh. He’s talented.
dtv
Sure. Sure.
His gorgeous eyes are simply incidental. You’d have the same crush if he looked like Larry King (frog).
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You’ll never know
But you’ve also never heard me ever say anything about his eyes
“They forgot Snell walked 6 dudes in an inning his last time out”
Just because he stunk during that start doesn’t mean that he’ll stink during this one.
“Brandon it is one inning. lets not get carried away.”
I know. I’m not saying he’s Cy Young here.
CC is my boy
nice inning for CC
I wished Damon was a Yankee, too, while he was a Red Sox player. And was very happy when he did sign. But before he did, I felt like such a traitor!
I remember a conversation my sister and I had after seeing Damon on television (I think it was with Letterman). We both felt so guilty!
Good start CC
# Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper. August 13th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
“They forgot Snell walked 6 dudes in an inning his last time out”
Just because he stunk during that start doesn’t mean that he’ll stink during this one.
Yeah because hes pitching to the Yanks. They don’t know how to score runs until the 7-8-9th inning.
CC looked absolutely phenomenal that inning. His fastball is explosive once again and he was hitting his spot pitch after pitch.
when matsui goes the other way, i love it.
Swish with another walk!
Erica is in a better mood now that GTL is behind her….Good evening Erica!
Why would anyone put a bogus url in the Website section?
Do they think having their name in bold looks cooler?
No Michael Kay?
so is robbie back to being hated?
I hope this game doesn’t go 15 innings.
This stadium is silent.
The Rural Juror-
No, I just think I’m THAT special.
This is a difficult park to hit home runs in. Safeco is 17th in terms of home runs per game (which is partly due to the M’s themselves not being much of a power hitting team…)
The yanks are going to need to score runs by getting base hits.
Doreen,
My beef’s not with you, it was ridiculous what went on that day!
Anyway, thank you for speaking up.
Jerry will get it done
A walk-off hit with RISP last game doesn’t buy him much a free pass apparently, Ralphie.
Melky is gonna need a rest soon
Those trains are hella annoying.
Evan D.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Erica is in a better mood now that GTL is behind her….Good evening Erica!
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Hi Evan!!! LOL
I was a little grouchy earlier. I had to finish something really important by 6 today and I had 51 line ups coming at me. It was stressful. I should have just cancelled GTLU but I didn’t want to disappoint anyone. Especially since people had been talking about their submissions all day.
jerry!
Did I mention how much I love Hairston?
What was swish doing?
Nice JHJr!
“Those trains are hella annoying.”
True, but they don’t compare to those damn cowbells in TB.
Wait nm he was on first my bad. Sui was on 2nd. I told you jerry would get it done
Johnny D.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Those trains are hella annoying.
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I live across the street from LIRR tracks (its the view from my window). I hear a noise like that all day and night
Wow, JHJr can play all positions. He really was a very nice pickup.
Evan D.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I hope this game doesn’t go 15 innings.
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I am praying for a laugher just once. I need sleep
that looked like a pinball machine with gravity force. The ball went up and got sucked back.
Huge outfield in safeco. Guittierez has fantastic range but even he couldn’t get to that ball.
Nice to score a run from the bottom of the order on a day when Alex and Jorge aren’t playing.
Molina’s batting stance is so stiff. Why don’t they work on that?
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 13th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Wow, JHJr can play all positions. He really was a very nice pickup.
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And people were doubting Brian Cashman on deadline day
Bo Jackson… LOVED that guy!
I saw him hit a HR in Kansas City that appeared to still be rising as it crossed the fence (this was in ’87).
The only other player I ever saw do that was Dave Winfield, in Baltimore (’85 or thereabouts).
Nice Job
Two runs is even better! I’ll take one on a wild pitch.
Nice!
At least we finally benefit from a WP.
Where is Kay tonight? Seems like he is around less and less.
“Wow, JHJr can play all positions. He really was a very nice pickup.”
He’s okay. Frankly, I miss Cody Ransom.
there is a game going on
Yankees up 2 to 0
This is the LOHUD game thread right?
“At least we finally benefit from a WP.”
I don’t want to talk about wild pitches.
Robi, IDK why but Robi will have the higher batting avg.
m -
You’re welcome.
A lot is lost in translation in print.
Where’s michael kay?
that has to be the most useless stat I have ever heard from Ken Singleton.
Yep, they were. I thought the Hinske pick-up was a good one too.
LOL Laura. Thats just your ornery NickM-lovin’ self coming out, isn’t it?
“I don’t want to talk about wild pitches.”
AJ, is that you?
“LOL Laura. Thats just your ornery NickM-lovin’ self coming out, isn’t it?”
You know it. Speaking of which, when is BAL coming back to town?
I asked that earlier, Glenda. Didn’t get an answer – so I assumed no one else missed him, lol.
Erica
thanks for doing GTLU, its amazing how popular it has become. Maybe you could just do it once or twice a week if it gets too much.
that has to be the most useless stat I have ever heard from Ken Singleton.
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3 out of every 20 stats from Ken Singleton are useless.
Ohhhh, the blog went all strange on me.
Singleton is off his game tonight. Saying a few things that aren’t true.
“I don’t want to talk about wild pitches.”
AJ, is that you?
I prefer Mr. Reddi Wip.
“Robi, IDK why but Robi will have the higher batting avg.”
I agree. Robi owes him for 2006, plus, I think Robi has a big time hot streak coming. He’ll even get hot with RISP. I guess, what I’m trying to say is that I think he will take that next step.
Not till Sept 1st, Laura.
Only 19 more sleeps!
That was a great slider from CC to K Branyan. Very sharp. Almost like a Carlton slider.
For a left handed pitcher to be able to make a right handed hitter look that bad on a slider is really something. Jojima isn’t good, but that was just a filthy slider.
John Flahrety has a new word. Power! Power fastball! Power slider!
in love with sindel.
“Not till Sept 1st, Laura. Only 19 more sleeps!”
Damn! I might have to watch a few BAL games before then to get my fix.
man, I didn’t need to see that twice.
OWE! don’t show me that!
Please, do not show that again. I’m going to start wearing a cup at all times, even around the house.
“man, I didn’t need to see that twice.”
I’m female and watching that makes my groin hurt.
CC will srikeout at least 12 today.
CC is about to throw 30 pitches this inning.
Did you see that runner try to hit Jerry?
wooo got out of it.
“For a left handed pitcher to be able to make a right handed hitter look that bad on a slider is really something. Jojima isn’t good, but that was just a filthy slider.”
He’s throwing right now like he did last year in Milwaukee.
Has anyone seen “Idiocracy”?
wow CC threw 29 pitches that inning..odd for him…i bet he has a 8 pitch 3rd inning
for GTL:
it shouldnt be too hard to create an app that lets people submit their picks and stores them in a small db
any techies out there? or Pete’s web guys?
CC needs a few quick outs – he’s at 40 pitches already.
Why does Arroyo want all this attention?
one thing you all need to learn is when jeter says he will be in the lineup he will.
i told you he would be.
It’s too bad Mike Sweeney never got to play for a winning team in his prime. He was one of the most dangerous hitters in the game, and playing in absolute anonymity on those horrible KC teams.
His power stuff is there, but he’s wasting too many pitches.
He’a fallen behind each hitter this inning. His inability to throw a first-pitch strike this season is puzzling, given his control.
Its going to be a much (NOT) needed 6-inning outing unless CC can throw more strikes. 40 pitches and about half of them strikes against a hacktastic line-up won’t cut it on a night where the pen needs length.
Whoa, Jeter!
“He’s throwing right now like he did last year in Milwaukee.”
I was thinking that in the boston game. He looks great.
Jeter flashin’ some power.
So much for that Nikon sign being the place HRs go to die…
Wow.
That was about as deep as I’ve seen Jeter hit one.
Jete! Way to make up for it!
Jeter is injured and shouldn’t be playing, dammit!
Jeter.
Jeter hit it to the spot Griffey said NOT to hit it.
Jeter tells ESPN to take their bandbox comments and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine!
Hahah at Jeter hitting it to the Nikon sign that Singleton was going on about. No big deal for the captain.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome!!!
Just got in from the movies. I made it just in time. Sick shot jetes!
Yankee stadium is a whiffle ball park.
That is an absolute monster shot. It is not easy to hit a ball that far to that area in this park.
What a weapon for a SS to be able to hit like that.
What a season Jeter is having.
GJ Tex! get him over.
Yanks should sign John Smoltz
SUI!!!
Brandon-
So what were you saying about Ian Snell???
Hitdeki Batsuit!
Snell is officially throwing BP
so much for the vaunted west-coast jet lag
LOL! Ian Snell is underrated.
The Yankees make every ballpark look like a bandbox!
Yanks hit HRs everywhere. not just da Bronx.
Can Snell pitch tomorrow too?
Japan is going crazy
“# Rob L. August 13th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Yanks should sign John Smoltz”
For batting practice?
Damn it took till yr. 2 or 3 but K-Long has this lineup adjusting to 2nd and 3rd time through the lineups.
“Yanks should sign John Smoltz”
For batting practice right?
upstate kate
August 13th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Erica
thanks for doing GTLU, its amazing how popular it has become. Maybe you could just do it once or twice a week if it gets too much.
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Actually, that may just be the best idea yet…
Btw- GTLU will become virtually impossible after September callups
Snell would have worked out great pitching in NYS…..
yikes, after seeing Snell pitch – (whom the Yankees scouted) – another good non-trade by Cashman.
really belated response to nick in sf – at one point in her life, i considered gong li to be the most beautiful actress around
as for baseball matters, should the yankees bring up all 15 extra players in september for looks before the rule V draft and minor league free agency?
Bandbox….just sayin
Welcome to the Machine
August 13th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Please, do not show that again. I’m going to start wearing a cup at all times, even around the house.
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Do you upset your significant other often??
This is a gift game, if Sabbathia just gets ahead of hitters and throws strikes. It should be easy sailing.
Ian Snell is just not a good pitcher.
This offense is just unreal. The amount of power they hit with is hard to get over.
Safeco is a very difficult place to hit the ball out in.
Second time through the line up they are squaring snell up one pitch after another.
Even the outs are being pelted. Nice shot by Swisher.
If Guittierez isn’t in CF that’s a double.
It’s exactly those kinds of plays that had been keeping Jarrod Washburn’s ERA so low this year. Seattle has terrific outfield defense and Washburn is a fly ball pitcher.
Yankees make every stadium look like a bandbox.
Upstate Kate-
btw- you are also welcome
“Brandon-
So what were you saying about Ian Snell???”
He ain’t no Cy Young either.
I’m more impressed w/ how quick this lineup is adjusting 2nd and 3rd time through, I can’t remember a Yankee lineup adjusting this quick in like…I don’t think ever.
In response to Pete’s question about Matsui next season here’s my thoughts;
Get deep into the playoffs or win the championship and I’m all for rewarding Matsui and Damon and bringing them back for another hurrah.
As long as we’re not talking 3 year deals, I’m cool with keeping the band together.
will all the talking heads be talking about the lauching pad effect that safeco has….
Strange pattern developing…
Wherever the Yanks play, homeruns get hit.
Strange.
I used to like Snell. He actually was a decent pitcher years ago while on the Pirates. I dont know what happened.
I just read Pete’s comment about Beltre. Why in the world didnt the dude wear a cup? Can’t be much left too them anyhow after all the steroid use. Regardless, sounds painful, poor guy.
G. Love,
I think Pete was asking whether Matsui would end up in Seattle next season.
Erica – GTL should go on every day. If you can’t run it on weekends than someone else should volunteer.
I won’t even throw BP behind the L screen without a cup on….what was Beltre thinking…
Erica – always OPPC
have one person do home games & another do road games
The offense is looking alive tonight I love it. Hopefully CC can cruise through this lineup and get an easy win!
one of the smartest moves the Yankees made all year was keeping Matsui out of the outfield.
“Wonder if Matsui ends up here next season?”
No, because the Yankees are going to bring him back as the full time DH. Book it, Dano!
we really want matsui back? Really….
Man this guy is skinny
“we really want matsui back? Really….”
I do. We need a perm DH. The guy can still hit and is clutch doing it. Why not?
Thinking about Matsui and Damon…no way they keep both next year…but I’m going to enjoy them both this year.
over under CC strikeouts…..I set it at 8 right now. he currently has 5
Ichiro looks like he’s going to spin himself into the ground.
I love Hideki Matsui, but bringing back older players who can’t play the field at all, is not good practice…..
Singleton is a genius. I can’t believe ppl knock him.
2nd time with CC pitching Molina has called back to back sliders to break up no hitters.
He swings because he wants the same pitch again. wow, smart hitter.
Big double play
CC is the man tonight…
the reason you don;t keep matsui is simple…Posada, and damon if you keep damon. They can split time at dh next. I would bring back damon over matsui because even though he is a terriblee outfielder he can physically play out there. Matsui can not. Matsui can only DH…he gives you team very little flexibility
Wow.
Ichiro missed the slider by more than I’ve ever seen him miss a pitch. Then he hits a line drive on the same pitch. Ichiro either has superhuman hand eye coordination or is a master of mind games. I think he is both.
Lemme just say, Franklin Gutiérrez is sizzlin hot!
or have people track their own with the time they posted & you can go back to that time to verify
only check if you are told by the person that they won
exmple:
erica i won.go back to 2:45 & check
Evan D.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Erica – GTL should go on every day. If you can’t run it on weekends than someone else should volunteer.
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I can’t always be chained to my computer for GTLU. I do have a paying job that is not at all affiliated with the Yankees. Additionally, I sometimes like to take part in activities that are also not related to the Yankees.
No one else is volunteering to run the game. It’s a lot of work. And even if they did, I am not sure that i would want them to. I have put in a lot of time and effort to turn the game into what it has become.
I think Damon’s future depends on what the Yankees decide to do with the OF. Is Jackson coming up to be the full time CF? If so, does Melky play LF? Do they go out and get Bay for LF? What about RF? Do they want to keep running Swisher out there? What about Brett Gardner?
Questions, questions. We’ll have to wait until after we win the World Series to find out.
I agree 100% coach. players who do not play the field…not good.
Matsui’s knees are like ticking time bombs.
The Yanks are praying they last the entire year – I doubt they want to gamble they hold up next year too.
Ichiro is such a great hitter. CC throws him a fantastic slider and he has the plate coverage to go and get it on the low outside corner.
His is a historically great player. I know his OPS isn’t high because he doesn’t hit for much power, etc, etc. But he is a great talent.
I would consider signing Matsui to a 1 or 2 year deal, same with Damon.
Obviously Matsui would be limited to being a full time DH. Also you lose some defense with Damon in LF but his offense MORE than makes up for it.
I don’t know if the Yanks do it but lets say they do very well this postseason and those two guys continue to hit. It will be very hard for Cashman to let them go.
# Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper. August 13th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
I think Damon’s future depends on what the Yankees decide to do with the OF. Is Jackson coming up to be the full time CF? If so, does Melky play LF? Do they go out and get Bay for LF? What about RF? Do they want to keep running Swisher out there? What about Brett Gardner?
Questions, questions. We’ll have to wait until after we win the World Series to find out.
If they want to get a left fielder, they should go and get Carl Crawford imo.
bru-
I said 17 times today that the window for GTLU submissions was 4:45-6:15. I can’t worry about something someone posted at 2:45. I told you that I would not pay attention
Doreen, the reason I decided to ignore it is because I understand that the sports realm is mostly populated by guys – it’s not the most pleasant thing to hear about, but this is what guys talk about amongst themselves and, to be honest, even women do it. I don’t like to make waves…..Also, if I’m going to talk about how much I like a certain player or how good looking someone is, then it would be hypocritcal of me to criticize. The thing that is bothersome is that people would actually think that looks are more important than anything else, but again, I don’t want to get on a soapbox.
Jeter and Posada
Do you upset your significant other often??
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Sadly, I do. She gets pissy when I watch the Yanks…luckily for her, that’s only 162 times a year (plus the pre-season and the playoffs and the games on the DVR in the off-season).
I wonder what CC’s game over move is…Kenny is still waiting for it.
“RalphieD (OPPC)
August 13th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
wow CC threw 29 pitches that inning..odd for him…i bet he has a 8 pitch 3rd inning”
good call! CC with a 7 pitch inning
CB,
Ichiro is one of my favorite current era players. His athleticism is incredible. He claims that he can throw 95 off the mound and his plan is to become a pitcher once he’s too old to play RF. It sounds crazy but I truly believe that if any player can do that it’s him.
laura allgood points…Melky is center field or nothing. he does hit enought to be a corner outfielder…NOt sure I want Bay, WHen does Carl Crawford become a free agent???
“I would bring back damon over matsui because even though he is a terriblee outfielder he can physically play out there.”
Can you really say a guy can play a position if he’s horrible at it? Technically, Wilson Betemit can play 1B. Technically, Cody Ransom can play 3B. But the question is would you want them to?
We will have to see what happens, but I think the Damon vs Matsui debate is an interesting one.
Swisher is good off the bench…not in love with him as an everday outfielder
That play could have definitely been made if the fielders felt like bending down
who cares if anybody finds anybody else attractive?
unless they are being disrespectful about it.
I didn’t read any of this talk today (thankfully) but it sounds really petty.
Patrick,
You’ve probably seen this but just take a look in case you haven’t.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHjjSNNVB0
I am not saying damon will be the everyday leftfielder next year. I am saying he is a better player than matsui..Matsui is old, cant run, phyiscally can not go in the outfield. Damon would make a great everyday DH, who if you had to you could stick him in the outfield every couple days to let posada DH, with matsui you CAN NOT do that. Damon is a much better player…
Ichiro missed the slider by more than I’ve ever seen him miss a pitch. Then he hits a line drive on the same pitch. Ichiro either has superhuman hand eye coordination or is a master of mind games. I think he is both.
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He is easily one of the smartest players in the game. Or maybe one of the smartest people in any given room not populated by scientists. He is one of those people who managed to score the genepool jackpot: Looks, athleticism, smarts, discipline.
In addition to supposedly throwing 95, there have always been claims that he would win the HR derby if he chose to enter it.
I don’t think Crawford is a free agent until 2011. TB has an option on him next year I believe. There are some who think that TB will deal him this season. I’d sign up for that. If you get me Crawford, I’ll say goodbye to both Matsui and Damon (sorry Erica!).
BD 2.0
I didn’t read the earlier comments earlier. I was too busy drowing in Yankee line ups. But from what I saw it was pretty gross
Pete posted the HR totals of our usual lineup – it’s remarkably balanced. I said this before, but we don’t have any real sluggers in the lineup – by that I mean traditional, all or nothing types like Rob Deer. Our big HR guys, Alex and Tex, are both exceptional hitters. Anyone in the lineup can hurt any pitcher on any given day…….
Tex baby
nice
get it all in
Its okay Laura. I am exhausted. I don’t have the will to argue.
I’ll just give a scary look
I have heard that ICHRIO is a major pain in the neck. He is a prima donna, teammates and manager can not stand him….Does that sound accurate? I could be wrong
I’ve always wondered why a man would have a hyphenated last name?
Pete, can you ask Ryan Rowland-Smith for me?
SEA’s bullpen must be taxed from last night’s game as they are letting Snell stay out there to take it like a man.
“In addition to supposedly throwing 95, there have always been claims that he would win the HR derby if he chose to enter it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHjjSNNVB0
Crawford will likely be a free agent in 2011.
I’d be surprised if TB trades him. Even if they do, it’s likely as a 1 year rental before he goes to the highest bidder as a big name free agent for the first (and perhaps last) time.
BD 2.0
August 13th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Crawford will likely be a free agent in 2011.
I’d be surprised if TB trades him. Even if they do, it’s likely as a 1 year rental before he goes to the highest bidder as a big name free agent for the first (and perhaps last) time.
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It really depends on whether they consider themselves contenders again
“I’ll just give a scary look”
You can’t see me, but I’m shaking in my boots!
Erica – always OPPC
August 13th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
bru-
I said 17 times today that the window for GTLU submissions was 4:45-6:15. I can’t worry about something someone posted at 2:45. I told you that I would not pay attention
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you are confused.
relax & take a deep breath & read my post.
i am not asking you to check my post at 2:45.i was giving you an idea about a rule change
“SEA’s bullpen must be taxed from last night’s game as they are letting Snell stay out there to take it like a man.”
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good point.
they used their long man (for apx 45 pitches) and several others.
in a 4 game series, that could be a huge advantage for NY.
Seattle’s pen is pretty good. Anything helps…
“In addition to supposedly throwing 95, there have always been claims that he would win the HR derby if he chose to enter it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHjjSNNVB0
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Saw that. And I would believe it because I went to the mariners series last year at OYS and he destroyed BP.
“I’d be surprised if TB trades him.”
SI.com had a length article about how they may not have a choice. Something about not having enough money to go around. For some reason, I couldn’t relate.
CC’s replacement is already playing LF this season (desmond jennings) and his option next year is for a relatively expensive 10 mil or something like that.
A good chance they dont take the option.
“It really depends on whether they consider themselves contenders again”
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they’d be crazy not to.
they have a great young team that should get better.
if anything, they will be better in the coming years than they are now.
CB,
I was just watching that video last week. He was truly a man among boys.
Pete Ansel Adams is right – Ian Snell is gonna have to suck it up and take one for the team tonight.
hmmm, if money is an issue, then I guess Crawford could go.
that would be a shame, though.
Crawford is one of the last of the “Devil” Rays back when they were horrible.
IMO, he is the face of that team.
Bru-
I went back and reread your suggestion. There are problems with that
1) It won’t help the submission window problem I have. There has to be a cut off because line ups are posted on alternate sources
2) People are not always on to see who won. And may not be able to tell me if they did and I would hate to miss giving credit to someone that earned it
3) People also enjoy the contest feel the game has now. Making it self checking will take away from that
Ichiro looks a little bit like Starvin’ Marvin in that clip. Amazing that he could generate so much power w/that frame.
CC looked mad about that pitch.
Who says Johnny Damon is a bad fielder??
pat August 13th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Can Snell pitch tomorrow too?
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Funny, I was just going to ask why couldn’t Felix pitch again tonight
Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper. August 13th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
SEA’s bullpen must be taxed from last night’s game as they are letting Snell stay out there to take it like a man.
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You got it. Felix went 7 and the other 7 were spread out among 4 relievers. I think the only available arms are: Aardsma, Batista, Olson and maybe Jakubauskus.
Betsy -
I’ve retired my soapbox for this evening, but I wanted to acknowledge that I read your post.
Great inning
this has been a stressful inning for johnny
9 pitch inning.
“IMO, he is the face of that team.”
I agree. From all reports, he loves the team and wants to stay. It may come down to him giving them a hometown discount.
“And I would believe it because I went to the mariners series last year at OYS and he destroyed BP.”
He can do anything he wants with the bat.
If he’d played in the U.S. he would have shattered the all time hit record.
He should be a first ballot hall of famer, IMO. It’ll be interesting to see how his voting goes.
He is roundly criticized by sabermatricians as being overrated and I wonder how much influence those ideas will have when he’s eligible. He might not reach 3000 hits here so he might not be a lock.
I wish I had the ability to power nap so I could get my sleep and also see CC’s outing.
I either go to sleep now and feel good tomorrow or stay up and see CC’s pitching but feel like crap tomorrow.
Oh well, I guess tomorrow is friday so it doesn’t matter
7 pitch inning.
Welcome to the Machine
August 13th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I’ve always wondered why a man would have a hyphenated last name?
Pete, can you ask Ryan Rowland-Smith for me?
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It’s a common thing in Britain and Australia. His father has the same hyphenated name.
“this has been a stressful inning for johnny”
It has been. Erica should fly out there and comfort him. LOL!
LOL Thanks Doreen……..by the way, how do you make smileys on this board?
CB,
The criticisms of Ichiro bother me. These guys love looking at OPS+ and UZR but it’s like they never even watch the guy play. He is supremely talented. There’s no way you could see him and say he’s an average fielder or hitter. He is an all time great.
Twer I? I would pick up the option on Crawford and trade him. I don’t think they can come to a long term deal.
And what’s with trying to trade Upton? I don’t think there’s much of a market there.
“LOL Thanks Doreen……..by the way, how do you make smileys on this board?”
: followed by )
Betsy-
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
“7 pitch inning.”
CC’s got a big lead against a team with a short bull pen and is playing in a park that plays large.
He knows what to do.
Last inning he pretty much said, here it is, give it your best shot.
And that’s exactly what he should be doing.
Wow, that comment about Beltre’s injury was painful to read.
What an nut…he plays the hot corner and doesn’t use a cup?
Asking for trouble. Hopefully for his sake that doesn’t amount to the loss of his testicle.
Perhaps he’ll become a gelding.
I want Ichiro on the yankees. Killed me when he signed that extension, as one of his trade teams or whatver was New York.
Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
“this has been a stressful inning for johnny”
It has been. Erica should fly out there and comfort him. LOL!
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This day has been stressful for me too!
Betsy -
Colon, close paren, no space between.
“And what’s with trying to trade Upton? I don’t think there’s much of a market there.”
Yeah, they know. They just want to be rid of him.
Ah, that’s right, he’s an Aussie. Thanks, GB7.
Peter sitting here in safeco and smalls IS looking scared…watching from Hit it Here (Jeter) Cafe
“This day has been stressful for me too!”
So what are you saying, Erica? That you want Damon to fly back and comfort YOU??
Anyone hear the comment about the Yankees play 4 more games in the Pacific Time Zone than the Sox and the Rays….thanks MLB!!!
Bummer for Saunders.
Still not as bad as Victorino
Just got caught up via dvr, wow. So much for a battered, tired team embarking on a perilous west coast trip… love the long ball in this brutal pitchers’ park. Maybe the skills of the hitters and pitchers in question come into play every once in a while?
“really belated response to nick in sf – at one point in her life, i considered gong li to be the most beautiful actress around…”
yankssince57, I had a similar time in my life, I think it was while I was watching “Raise the Red Lantern”, yeow!
http://tinyurl.com/o2wybt
Not to rehash the whole double standard stuff, but I hope those who see one can perhaps see that there might be multiple double standards at play here.
Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
“This day has been stressful for me too!”
So what are you saying, Erica? That you want Damon to fly back and comfort YOU??
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Now thats the best idea I have heard yet!!!!
Actually, if this score holds up I should be in my bed sleeping within 20 minutes
Laura, Erica, Doreen – thanks! I admit I’m obsessed with smiley faces. I love them…..I have a stuffed smiley face on my desk at work, but a co-worker drew evil eyebrows on them a few years ago and now he looks mean, lol
Betsy,
You’ve been posting how long, and this is the first time you want to smile?
Just hover over any emoticon, and the “coding” will pop up.
Erica what do you do? Game show host?
Damon actually looks good in the outfield tonight. It’s seems like he can see the ball better. No staggering around like he’s been at Cheers.
it looks like buchhol might be settling in,wake coming back.
boston not going away
Ichiro is an amazing talent. He’s definitely not a 1-hit wonder… more like 258 (when he broke the record for most hits in a season).
That said, I don’t like the fact that professionals from Japan (or anywhere else) can come to the MLB and still win the Rookie of the Year award.
Thankfully I’ll be in the Pacific time zone for next week’s games.
“Actually, if this score holds up I should be in my bed sleeping within 20 minutes”
Yeah, I’m not much longer for this game either. I’m not entirely sure that I’ve fully recovered from that 15 inning game.
“The criticisms of Ichiro bother me.”
He’s gotten absolutely killed by sabmatricians. I kind of got the sense over the years that many people interested in sabermetrics wound up clustering around a few players to make their points of how and why the way the game has been traditionally understood is wrong.
Jeter and Ichiro were at the top of the list. They picked big name players to really focus on.
Jeter has really been pummeled. Ichiro hasn’t been too far behind.
That’s the danger of reducing the variety of the game down to OPS or rate stats alone.
It’s sort of amazing. He’s a historically great talent. First ballot hall of famer.
Anyone hear the comment about the Yankees play 4 more games in the Pacific Time Zone than the Sox and the Rays….thanks MLB!!!
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They also thought it would be funny to have the Yanks play Boston @home coming off the last west coast trip.
turns out it might just end up being a good tune-up for the playoffs.
bru,
It doesnt matter if they go away, if we play even with them, we have nothing to worry about.
man CC that was nasty
That was a stupid poll.
“boston not going away”
We’re the ones who are going away — or running away, if you will.
Evan D.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Erica what do you do? Game show host?
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I am a CPA. Well, actually I am an Auditor. Which probably explains so much about my fondness for rules and order
I work a lot of hours and my job is actually really stressful. But it pays well
Robi will beat out Jetes in the batting avg category.
the only “double standard” I care about is the one Robinson Cano is setting – leads the team (tied with Tex) in doubles and is on pace for a career high 45.
Buccholz “settling in” is going to be a trendy ESPN story for a while now. 1 lucky outing vs. the Yankees where he put on 11 base runners in 6 innings and benefited from GIDP’s and 1 start against the weak hitting tigers and all of the sudden he’s a great pitcher again.
MPB Johnny Damon = Best Left Fielder
“I am a CPA. Well, actually I am an Auditor. Which probably explains so much about my fondness for rules and order”
We are kindred spirits…almost. My degree is in Accounting and I worked as an Auditor for awhile. I decided not to get my CPA after realizing that I didn’t like Accounting. LOL!
CB,
Good point about Jeter.
I admit, New Yorkers tend to overrate Jeter. Guys like Francesa and his listeners. I think that leads other fans (especially fans into sabermetrics) to really trash Jeter.
The fact is, although Jeter isn’t as good as Francesa and his crew make him out to be he’s still a first ballot hall of famer. It’s even gotten to the point that his defense is underrated! How is that even possible?
I love all the new stats that come out nowadays but a lot of people into sabermetrics are just as dumb as some of the traditional fans that we love to roll our eyes about.
Laura – I like this new Alex! He’s a keeper.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
“I am a CPA. Well, actually I am an Auditor. Which probably explains so much about my fondness for rules and order”
We are kindred spirits…almost. My degree is in Accounting and I worked as an Auditor for awhile. I decided not to get my CPA after realizing that I didn’t like Accounting. LOL!
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I realized that on Day 1 of Accounting 101. But I stuck with it anyway. Passing the CPA exam was a nightmarish experience I am so glad I will never have to repeat
I recently passed my CPA exam.
It’s nice to have a game thread without trolls!
I wonder if it’s because the score is 6-0, or if all trolls have to be tucked in bed by 10 pm.
Damn hanging slider
cant be hanging those, big boy
Wow that stinks.
CC was lights out and made Wilson look pretty foolish on a few of those pitches.
here’s a poll:
who finishes with a lower ERA?
a) CC Sabathia – currently 3.71
b) AJ Burnett – 3.71
c) Joba – 3.85
THAT’S ALL THEY GET.
oops – make that 6-1.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
August 13th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
It’s nice to have a game thread without trolls!
I wonder if it’s because the score is 6-0, or if all trolls have to be tucked in bed by 10 pm.
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A good combination of both
M, I’ve wanted to smile for a long time…..never got up the nerve to ask,
It’s still bugging me that Anthony DiComo (who covers Yanks part time for MLB.com – usually it’s Bryan Hoch) called the Yankees road record “decidedly average”. In what world is a winning road record average? The Yankees are doing what really good teams do – taking care of business at home and winning their share on the road. Only about 7 or 8 teams in all of baseball have winning road records……and some of them have mediocre home records (Phillies come to mind). You would think that people who make their living covering baseball would know more……
Damon earning his paycheck.
What a great team the Yankees are. Since they’re cruising along so nicely, CC decides to be generous and give some kid his first big league HR.
Did you guys see that Johny Gomes had a chance to go for 4 consecutive homeruns? 2 run shot, 2 run shot, solo shot, strike 3 called. And he’s always swinging away. Pretty close to being a special night.
Pork Chop
August 13th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I recently passed my CPA exam.
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Congratulations
Between Japan and the USA, Ichiro has already accumulated 3,251 hits.
In his MLB career, his seasonal avg is 231 hits/yr.
At his current rate, he’s less than five yrs away from reaching 3,000 hits in the majors.
He’s an amazing talent.
funny how the yankee announcers are saying that, that is his first MLB homerun…its his third
Francesca does NOT overrate Jeter. He has said more than once that Jeter is only a HOFer because of his rings….I don’t see how Jeter is overrated – the guy is one of the best SS of all time.
“Pretty close to being a special night.”
I’m glad he missed it. Gomes is a goon. He was a first class jerk when he played for TB.
“Did you guys see that Johny Gomes had a chance to go for 4 consecutive homeruns? 2 run shot, 2 run shot, solo shot, strike 3 called. And he’s always swinging away. Pretty close to being a special night.”
That’s great for Captain America.
“Buccholz “settling in” is going to be a trendy ESPN story for a while now. ”
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Buchholz looked ok today but his fastball is still average at best.
If he can get ahead in the count especially against impatient teams, he’ll do well. If he can’t, he won’t (not rocket science, I know)
the problem is, his changeup is so good when it’s on that it can make up for his weaker fastball.
IMO, it remains to be seen how well Buchholz will do in the majors.
If I had to guess, I’d say he’ll be a top notch #3 starter (which is great… just not the “ace” that some would have you believe)
“funny how the yankee announcers are saying that, that is his first MLB homerun…its his third”
Singleton has been making mistakes all night. He’s the one with jet lag.
This is a different Sox team than we have faced in the past. Manny and Roid-tiz made a huge difference in that lineup, they have no shortstop and their catching is old. They have a nice top to their rotation, but that’s about it. They are sinking fast.
It that fog or smoke – or am I getting too tired?
I guess they don’t want CC to rest.
Thank you Ken Singleton for answering my question.
Meh, CC loses the shut out but that’s probably for the best.
I’m hoping the offense can score some more runs and Girardi can get CC out of the game and save him some pitches.
The less reason to try to keep CC in the game for 9 innings up 5-6 runs the better.
CC’s at 69 pitches over 5 innings. And 29 of those came in the second inning.
He got the lead and is putting the ball over the plate as he should.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
August 13th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
It that fog or smoke – or am I getting too tired?
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A good combination of both
Oh, I don’t care about that now. He’s a Red now. He deserves a medal for that.
Yeah, you may want to wait until the game is actually close before setting off those fireworks.
Enough Tiant August 13th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I have heard that ICHRIO is a major pain in the neck. He is a prima donna, teammates and manager can not stand him….Does that sound accurate? I could be wrong
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Couldn’t be less accurate…
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....tes31.html
By the way, Ken Griffey Jr. has found Ichiro’s “tickle spot” and had him on the ground, during warm-ups, tickling him until Ichiro could be heard crying out in laughter and pleading for him to stop.
Here’s Ichiro’s routine…
http://www.mynorthwest.com/?ni.....sid=176170
I’ll tell you who Francesa overrates: Bronson Arroyo. Even today he was still stuck on him. I tried convincing him other wise, but he wouldnt listen.
Okay, guys. I’m beat. Gotta run.
Go Yankees!!!!
CB
Probably better off giving the BP some rest with Gaudin and Mitre slated to pitch.
Can we see CC for 2 more innings and then Bruney for 2.Hope Rivera isn’t summoned if the lead gets down to 3. Save Rivera and let him rest.
“CB
Probably better off giving the BP some rest with Gaudin and Mitre slated to pitch.”
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I’d like to give CC some rest as well…
but the bullpen could use some.
The only obvious guy who needs some work is Brian Bruney.
Am I missing someone?
“I don’t see how Jeter is overrated – the guy is one of the best SS of all time.”
You really think if he were a KC Royal he’d be a HOF? or the best SS of all time..if he were in KC be honest NYY fans would be pushing Tony Perez as the best SS of alltime or whoever else they would have had playing that position. When I look at Jetes as a baseball player I keep telling myself he’s just a solid player, look at Chipper Jones does he ever recieve the credit Jetes did in his career, could you imagine had Chipper been a Yankee and Jetes been a Brave, you think the same is said of HOF talk? It’s not dissing anyone, he’s a solid player, ver solid, sometimes yeh Jetes is overhyped.
Christina,
I agree… but did you see Arroyo tonight?
an absolute gem
Here is how good Jeter is, his career is not over yet and he is already:
2nd all time for Yankees in hits (he’ll pass Lou freaking Gehrig this year),
4th in doubles, he should eventually be first
11th in HRs,
10th in RBI,
2nd in SBs (he’ll pass Henderson in a couple of years,
5th in batting average.
He has played the fourth most games as a Yankee and no one has batted more times as a Yankee.
Not bad for a guy competing with Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mantle etc.
nice
Thank you Mariners for going down quickly that inning.
I am off to bed now. Good night Yankee people!
Reminder- there will be no offical Guess the Line Up tomorrow
Only 6 pitches that inning
CB, I think you are overrating Ichiro. He is a great player, but not a first ballot HOF’er. He is a corner outfielder without much power. This has nothing to do with sabermetrics. Even the basic numbers- his career OBP is .378, very good but not spectacular, and his career slugging is .433, which is not that great. He is a great singles hitter, and a great fielder, but not a first ballot guy.
Wow, that’s two 7 pitch innings and now a 6 pitch inning. I guess the M’s have dinner reservations tonight.
man what is the average time for a Mariner game – 2 hours 10 minutes?
these guys are swinging like they are double parked.
Brandon, yes I think he’d be a HOFer…….I think you are extremely underrating him. Besides, it doesn’t matter whether he would or would not be a HOFer in KC…..that’s not how things worked out.
Brandon, the stats show Jeter as one of the ten best hitting shortstops of all time. Sorry, but he is more than a solid player.
Night all……….!
CB, I think you are overrating Ichiro. He is a great player, but not a first ballot HOF’er. He is a corner outfielder without much power. This has nothing to do with sabermetrics. Even the basic numbers- his career OBP is .378, very good but not spectacular, and his career slugging is .433, which is not that great. He is a great singles hitter, and a great fielder, but not a first ballot guy.
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He is definitely a first ballot guy. If you look at his career as a whole it is arguable that he should be one of those ‘unanimous’ first ballot guys. If you look at just his MLB contributions he is still a hall of famer.
“You really think if he were a KC Royal he’d be a HOF? or the best SS of all time.”
Yes. No question and no debate.
Derek Jeter is a legitimate first ballot HOF player and one of the greatest SS of all time.
Jeter may be “overrated” for his “clutchness” and “intangibles” but there is no way to discount his production from the SS hole.
It’s been great.
No question about it.
If Ichiro played his entire career here, I think he would have been a first ballot HOF’er. But he will have to play many more years to get there now.
I’m quite impressed with Jeter’s career. Considering the PED era he has played in. He’s been a clean player (as far as we know) and he’s going to the HOF. Not many other players can say that.
Derek Jeter has a career .300 avg or better for every single month:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....pe=Batting
(not counting March, since that is all of 9 ABs).
What more could you ask from your SS?
CC is headed to the 7th with only 78 pitches,looks like the pen gets some rest too!
seriously, what the heck has gotten into Damon?
Brandon, If Jeter were a KC Royal he’d still be a hall of famer.
Look at his numbers, it’s not all about championships. He will have 3000+ hits when it’s all over, those are hall of fame numbers.
NYY626
August 13th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
seriously, what the heck has gotten into Damon?
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My magical powers
I predicted on July 17th a magical 2nd half for him so he will give the Yankees no choice but to bring him back!
“NYY626 August 13th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
seriously, what the heck has gotten into Damon?”
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Contract year
JF says “another situational at bat where Tex will try to advance the runner”. Doubt that. In a 6-1 game its time to try to pad the stats.
“Brandon, yes I think he’d be a HOFer…….I think you are extremely underrating him. Besides, it doesn’t matter whether he would or would not be a HOFer in KC…..that’s not how things worked out.”
solid player is not underrating him, it’s actually a compliment. HOFer eh..a bit of a stretch. Yes that is how things worked out.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesomely Awesome
Okay, really going to sleep now!! Night Yankee people!!
When Jeter is finished he will have 3500+ hits, yeah, he is just solid….
Brandon, why not support your argument with some facts? Because every last statistical look I have seen of this puts Jeter among the top 10 offensive SS of all time.
“Brandon, If Jeter were a KC Royal he’d still be a hall of famer.”
Yes losing seasons, no rings, no protection in the lineup he’d be a sure bet HOFer.
“If you look at just his MLB contributions he is still a hall of famer.”
Career 0.811 OPS player with a wOBA of .350 or so for a corner OF.
He’s been hammered for that and will continue to be so.
When he retires and is eligible we are going to see waves and waves of articls and commentaries about how it’s ridiculous to put him into the Hall.
The arguments about him being vastly over rated by the “main stream media” are already out there and alive.
He’ll need to get 3000 hits, IMO to get the credit he deserves.
In the era of steroids and big boppers – guys like Jeter and Ichiro are going to get even more accolades.
They’ll both be first ballot HOF
On pace to win over a 100.
Dude how many SS EVER have averaged 200 hits a year, will finish with over 3000 hits and average 120 OPS+.
Jeter is a first ballot hall of famer, easy. Even the most staunch Jeter haters will acknowledge that fact. Just because you feel he’s a “solid player” doesn’t make it true. Go look at his stats.
HOFer eh..a bit of a stretch.
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Did I read this correctly or am I just really really tired?
Matt Snell is Sergio Mitre
“Yes losing seasons, no rings, no protection in the lineup he’d be sure bet HOFer”
Arod is that you?
Pitching change, so back to Jeter. Right now he is in the HOF if he does nothing else. He’s become the face of Major League Baseball. First ballot will be a given if and when he gets his 3,000th hit and perhaps with 4 WS, career 314, 2 Gold Gloves he is already there…
“Yes losing seasons, no rings, no protection in the lineup he’d be a sure bet HOFer.”
So, I guess in your book Ernie Banks isn’t a HOF judging by that statement.
“Brandon, why not support your argument with some facts? Because every last statistical look I have seen of this puts Jeter among the top 10 offensive SS of all time.”
He was batting in the 2 hole w/ protection like Wade Boggs, Bernie Williams, Oneill, Tino..am I argueing his statistics? no I am not, but someone can have an opinion and point out in another lineup, town/ situation he wouldn’t be the same player.
The person to compare Jeter to is Pete Rose. Jeter has more hits at this point in his career than Rose did. He has more steals. He already has more HRs than Rose did in his entire career. Jeter’s career BA, OBP and SLG are all higher.
Oh and add to that Jeter plays shortstop. Jeter doesn’t need any rings to be a no doubt Hall of Famer.
Well, believe it or not, that was a HUGE improvement over Snell’s last outing…
http://compassrosy.blogspot.co.....h-lee.html
baby steps.
“So, I guess in your book Ernie Banks isn’t a HOF judging by that statement.”
Your stretching on that one.
Sui is showing off
Hotsui
“Your stretching on that one.”
That’s funny, because you’re stretching on the Jeter not a HOF point.
“When Jeter is finished he will have 3500+ hits, yeah, he is just solid….”
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legit shot at 4000
Protection has nothing to do with it.
Talking about “lineup protection” having any meaningful effect on a player’s stats is a fallacy anyways. It really doesn’t make much difference.
Jeter is a hall of famer no matter where he plays. Come on Brandon get real dude
Patrick August 13th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Look at his numbers, it’s not all about championships. He will have 3000+ hits when it’s all over, those are hall of fame numbers.
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If Jeter hangs around into his 40s he could threaten 4000 hits.
Jeter and Mo will get monuments in Monument Cave (should be a given).
Now, do you think the Yanks will retire Pettitte and Posada’s numbers?
“I think you are overrating Ichiro. He is a great player, but not a first ballot HOF’er. He is a corner outfielder without much power. This has nothing to do with sabermetrics.”
I think you’re defining greatness too narrowly. You’re delimiting the variety of the game too much and being overly normative, IMO.
He’s an astonishing player. He should have been hitting 3rd for his entire career as he would have driven in an absurd number of runs. But that’s not on him.
And I absolutely do think it has to do with sabermetrics. Just look at the chief criteria you used in your critique – OBP and slugging percentage. It’s no accident at all that those are the two criteria you touch on.
Batting average is well correlated with scoring runs. Not as highly as OPS. But there is a relationship there, one that is now wholly overlooked far too often.
First ballot hall of famer, IMO and I don’t have to think about it all that hard.
“Snell has retired seven straight. Yankees are in “We gave CC the lead, see you tomorrow” mode. ”
Pardon?
CB, I agree he belongs in the hall, and to be honest, I think you are lumping all sabermatricians together unfairly. ON BBTF, a stats oriented site, this comes up a lot, and most of the people there believe Ichiro is a HOF, just not a first ballot all time legend. I think that the consensus has shifted about Jeter and Ichiro, if it was ever against them. The knock on Jete was always defense, but no one denied his HOF quality bat.
With a 7-1 (soon to be 8-1, 9-1, or whatever-1) lead, are they gonna let CC finish it? It’s totally not necessary, but they did burn through a few in the pen yesterday for 5 innings. Nice to give everyone a rest.
Jeter will finish at a minimum as one of the top five best hitting shortstops of all time. No debate.
There is a very good chance he finihes with more hits than Honus Wagner, the greatest shortstop of all time.
Jeter will finish among the all-time leaders in hits and runs scored.
He is an all-time great. To not know that is to not know baseball.
“Talking about “lineup protection” having any meaningful effect on a player’s stats is a fallacy anyways. It really doesn’t make much difference.”
My god just look at Teix and Ortiz, no..no one benefits from protection in a lineup…No NEVER.
Brandon…I’M AWESOME!… Mitre: “I’m not an ace” August 14th, 2009 at 12:00 am
“Brandon, yes I think he’d be a HOFer…….I think you are extremely underrating him. Besides, it doesn’t matter whether he would or would not be a HOFer in KC…..that’s not how things worked out.”
solid player is not underrating him, it’s actually a compliment. HOFer eh..a bit of a stretch. Yes that is how things worked out.
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please see attached link….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFwAxfHgSA
No Mr. Singleton, it’s a nightmare for Cano
2009 is really a capstone of DJ’s career. He’s playing at (or above) league average defense at SS while putting up big offensive numbers at age 35. And this is after a 15 year career of excellence. He’s already a 56 on Baseball-Reference for HoF monitor for BATTING ALONE (avg Hof 50) and at 245 overall (avg HoFer 100). For reference, Cal Ripken was 236 for his entire 21 year career.
Brandon
His numbers would still make him a HOFer but in KC, his legend wouldn’t have made him the face of MLB.
Jeter had the perfect storm. He has the talent but also was blessed with right place/ right time.
Brandon…I’M AWESOME!… Mitre: “I’m not an ace”
August 14th, 2009 at 12:05 am
“So, I guess in your book Ernie Banks isn’t a HOF judging by that statement.”
Your stretching on that one.
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Banks had a little more run production as a shortstop than Jeter, but, he was a terrible defensive shortstop and a batting average of around .275.
Jeter and Suzuki will walk into the HOF on the first ballot. Suzuki is already in the japanese HOF.
“The person to compare Jeter to is Pete Rose. Jeter has more hits at this point in his career than Rose did. He has more steals. He already has more HRs than Rose did in his entire career. Jeter’s career BA, OBP and SLG are all higher.”
I’m paraphrasing here but:
Upon hearing Jeter had reached 2,000 hits and asked for his comments, Pete Rose responded “Tell Jeter the first 2,000 are the easiest”
Pete certainly doesn’t hold any punches.
Are we really arguing whether Jeter is a HOFer???? Is that a joke?
Forget about his unbelievable career numbers (hits, average, runs scored, etc.)….how about how clutch he is (see postseason numbers), his World Series MVP, his All Star appearances, his “intangibles” that cannot be accurately measured.
To even think that he is just a solid player is ridiculous. Jeter might not be the most talented player on the field but I’d take him on my team over just about anyone in the league. The guy is an awesome player and even better leader. HOFer guaranteed. Period.
So any stat that isnt batting average is “sabermetric?” Quite frankly, that is ridiculous. What criteria are you using for greatness? Astonishing? Yes, he is fun to watch, that does not make him an all-time great. Quite frankly, if someone used that reasoning in an argument against you, you would give him an all-time smackdown.
Brandon,
I can’t even begin to tell you how wrong you are about Jeter. You are not even remotely in the ball park. You are not even in the parking lot.
He has been a historically great SS and there’s no question about that.
Robbie striking out looking is more shocking than Robbie walking these days.
Way outside
Most people say a hall of famer needs 10 years of dominance in the majors.
Over his first 8 seasons, Ichiro has averaged 225 hits and 39 steals a year while playing ELITE defense in RF. He’s also having a career year this year and is showing no signs of slowing down.
He’s been an all-star and won the gold glove every year. He was an all-star and will win a gold glove this year.
If that’s not dominance as a leadoff hitter I don’t know what is.
too close to take, Cano.
Jeter will quite possibly finish in the top 3 for hits all time.
He’s on pace to crack the top 50 all time this season.
Doesn’t the ump know that if Cano doesn’t swing at a pitch (especially with 2 strikes), it can’t be a strike?
Brandon, if you trying to argue that Jeter is not a Hall of Famer, that’s just absurd.
“Solid” player is vastly underating Jeter. He’s among the handful of greatest shortstops of all time. Plain and simple.
Cano with RISP is unbelievable. Base loaded with no outs and he strikes out. Can’t even get a DP to drive the run in.
time to take out Jeter – put in Pena?
Matsui just jogs everywhere lol
Welcome to the Machine
August 14th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Jeter and Mo will get monuments in Monument Cave (should be a given).
Now, do you think the Yanks will retire Pettitte and Posada’s numbers?
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Jeter and Rivera will get plaques, but, they won’t get monuments. Besides, you probably wouldn’t be alive to see it. They’d have to be dead to get monuments, anyway.
too close to take, Cano.
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not so much:
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....v_size=500
Ichiro… that was not a hall of fame play!!
“Doesn’t the ump know that if Cano doesn’t swing at a pitch (especially with 2 strikes), it can’t be a strike?”
LOL this is so true.
As A-Rod said in Esquire in 01… Jeter is overrated. You feared Bernie and Tino and Paul O’Neal. Jeter was one of the last hitters you feared and he got his status based on his rings.
Hairston has been so solid for us.
Brandon, you have to be more careful what you smoke.
I think Jeter is a first round HOFer, but I don’t think he receive an overwhelming vote. It’s not that he doesn’t deserve an landslide vote, but writers are cool to Jeter because of his intentionally bland and colorless interviews. Writers resent bad interviewees (ie Roger Maris).
LOL at the Cano bashers…..you folks can always find something to complain about…..
BD 2.0 August 13th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Christina,
I agree… but did you see Arroyo tonight?
an absolute gem
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Wow, you’re right, CG shutout today by Arroyo. I am sure Mike is ear to ear about that. But again look at the team he was facing; the Nationals. Mike told me today he was impressed with him because of how he pitches against the Mets. I asked him who doesnt pitch well against the Mets. His other thing was that he pitched stellar against the Yankees when he was on the Red Sox. Again, flawed point since that was many moons ago.
In the end, he basically said regardless of what he thinks, hes owed 9 mil and the Yankees won pick that contract up. So no Arroyo. Such a terrible thing.
“My god just look at Teix and Ortiz, no..no one benefits from protection in a lineup…No NEVER.”
Teix has a .941 OPS this year, he had a .962 OPS last year. His career OPS is .921 but he’s just entering his prime years so it only makes sense that this year he’s a touch better.
Ortiz started declining last year… while he still had Manny. At the beginning of the year while he was still in the 3 spot he had Youk and Bay protecting him. That’s incredible protection, if you believe in that crap.
I think it’s more likely that Ortiz’s discontinued use of steroids have hurt him more than losing Manny.
o.k., so instead of answering my question you choose to nitpick.
thanks for the input.
“As A-Rod said in Esquire in 01… Jeter is overrated. You feared Bernie and Tino and Paul O’Neal. Jeter was one of the last hitters you feared and he got his status based on his rings.”
Eversince those words the Yankees and Alex would never be the same again.
Patrick,
some people make a case for David Ortiz (prior to his being exposed as a steroid user) making the HOF.
He only had 5 elite seasons (of course a few of them were MVP-quality).
Ichiro has been an elite-type player, including his defense (which cannot be discounted), for longer than that.
To weigh on on Ichiro, he spent the greater part of his MLB career as a corner outfielder. At that position, his overall offensive production is just not that great. Career OBP of .378 and SLG of .433. Most similar batters to him through age 34 are below. Not that impressive, and no HoFers amongst them even though some were GG-caliber centerfielders with speed and stolen base ability. Ichiro = Overrated.
Jack Tobin (904)
Ralph Garr (899)
Ken Griffey (891)
Mickey Rivers (883)
Wally Moses (882)
Kenny Lofton (880)
Pete Fox (878)
Dom DiMaggio (872)
Matty Alou (871)
Doc Cramer (870)
Dang I just looked at gameday, that was a crappy strike call on Robbie. He got hosed
“You feared Bernie and Tino and Paul O’Neal. Jeter was one of the last hitters you feared and he got his status based on his rings.”
I disagree. Jeter may not be a power hitter, but pitchers certainly don’t like to face him w/RISP.
Just look at the current Red Sox. Youkilis, Bay, and Martinez might have the most power, but Pedroia is still one you hate to face with the game on the line. In fact, I’d rather face Vmart and Bay than him.
Jeter is the perfect example of “right place right time”.
Great player, great representative of the organization… but not one of the greatest of all time like some believe.
Gameday is soooo inaccurate dude.
Wagner, Rodriguez and then pick between Jeter, Ripken, Vaughn and Appling.
You do realize we have Mitre and Gaudin due up this weekend right? And the pen had to pitch 5 innings yesterday?
Now is not the time to conserve CC. The pen, you assume, is going to be taxed over the weekend. Don’t go to them today unless you have to.
A surprising fact I learned recently:
Joe DiMaggio was not a first-ballot Hall of Famer…
“As Arod said in Esquire 01… Jeter is overrated”
And that was the end of a great friendship. Flushed right down the toilet.
RS are you trying to say that little rugrat might become a HOFer?
Hey did anyone watch Verlander’s game today? That dude is incredible.
He was averaging almost 97 MPH on his fastball and threw over 70% of them for strikes. Incredible
Where’s CC’s PC?
For those talking feared hitters…In this weeks SI, the player poll was taken by current MLB players of most feared hitter in the game….Derek Jeter came in at #3,, behind Pujols and Manny. This is voted on by current MLB players, and players can not vote for teammates…
“Jeter is the perfect example of “right place right time”.”
That’s not fair. He has game and his contributions helped make it the right time.
Christina,
Arroyo seems to put up some decent games in spurts but he’s just as capable of being hammered.
The Nationals lineup isn’t too bad though (Zimmerman, Dunn, Willingham, Morgan, Guzman, etc). Arroyo deserves credit for these kinds of starts. His ERA suggests they are few and far between.
Mike sounds like the kind of guy that just cannot admit he’s ever wrong. If he says Arroyo was worth getting, he’ll never back down from it… even when it’s clear to the rest of us that it’s a bad idea.
“Gameday is soooo inaccurate dude.”
It’s so not bro
“So any stat that isnt batting average is “sabermetric?” Quite frankly, that is ridiculous. ”
Oh goodness Mo. Relax. That’s not what I meant. I’m really, really not interested in tired religious wars related to what sabermetrics is.
I was only saying that one of the major contributions of sabermetrics has specifically been the advancement of OBP and slugging %.
And that’s been a very good thing. My only point was that it is not an accident that you brought up those two factors. That’s all. That is clearly the influence of sabermetrics. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
It has nothing to do with what stats are and aren’t “sabermetrics.”
But much of the argument for privledging OPS, for example, is it’s correlation with scoring runs. And if you want to base analysis on correlation, that’s fine.
I was only saying that batting average is also positively correlated with scoring runs. And along the way that has been forgotten.
You don’t hear batting average discussed in quantitative circles much anymore.
And I’m also not trying to suggest there is some kind of monolithic group of homogenous sabermatricians who all think and believe the same thing.
We’re communicating via a blog and there’s only so much bandwith. I was using as a short hand.
So I will be more accurate in saying that an OPS based argument is frequently made amongst sabermatricians to suggest that Ichiro is vastly over rated by “regular fans” or the “main stream media” (two groups I’ve frequently seen described as monolithic as well…).
Nasty
Pete will be a HOF voter soon – he should chime in on Jeter and Ichiro going in on first ballot.
“Hey did anyone watch Verlander’s game today? That dude is incredible.
He was averaging almost 97 MPH on his fastball and threw over 70% of them for strikes. Incredible”
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I saw much of the game and was confused when I saw that.
the NESN gun had him at 95-96 for much of the game.
>Jeter is the perfect example of “right place right time”.
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>Great player, great representative of the organization… but
>not one of the greatest of all time like some believe.
:/
The Yankees are winning 9-1, and people are saying bad things? tsk tsk
“Jeter is the perfect example of “right place right time”.
Great player, great representative of the organization… but not one of the greatest of all time like some believe.”
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how many SS have been much better in the history of MLB?
CC
Just let him complete the game
I saw much of the game and was confused when I saw that.
the NESN gun had him at 95-96 for much of the game.
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I saw the game on NESN and he hit 100 multiple times and was 97+ in the 7th and 8th. Not sure what NESN you saw. Eck and Orsillo commented on it constantly.
“As Arod said in Esquire 01… Jeter is overrated”
You may have heard that but that’s not what he said.
OK more Ichiro bashing. Dwight Evans had a .370 career OBP and .470 career SLG for 20 years! Played monster RF D in the spacious Fenway, and hit almost 400 home runs in the 1970s/early 80s, an era in which I can remember Graig Nettles and Reggie Jackson leading the league with under 40. The guy cant get arrested on the HoF ballot. Not making outs is till not appreciated and Ichiro makes a lot of them.
I almost want Seattle to hit another HR to see if they’ll set off the fireworks again.
Funny how Jeter was protected by O’Neill and Williams and yet neither one of those players will even sniff the Hall of Fame. Jeter is already in.
Bernie was a great player, but his production fell off a cliff once he reached hie mid-30s.
Jeter is still going strong in his mid-30s, producing one of his best seasons.
Comparing Jeter to Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, Gehrig, Mays, Musial etc – that’s overrating Derek Jeter.
But saying he’s one of the greatest shortstops of all time, is undeniable.
I’m really happy that after 14 years, Kelleher has been able to get Jeter to stop that side arm flip off of his front foot. It’s made a world of difference in making his throws accurate.
>how many SS have been much better in the history of MLB?
Trick question.
“I almost want Seattle to hit another HR to see if they’ll set off the fireworks again.”
RMAO
I’d like to submit that Brandon has ceased to be awesome. Sorry Brandon.
People hating on jeter, over 200 HRs career from the SS position, going to finish with more than 300 SB, a career .317 hitter with a .309 AVG in the post season too, .354 AVG in ALDS games, get off his case
I’d like to submit that Brandon has ceased to be awesome. Sorry Brandon.
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Self-proclaimed awesomeness is a sure sign of non-awesomeness
I’ll tell you all what, watching CC pitch every five days is an absolute pleasure. The guy is turning in yet another beauty. I think we’d be hard pressed to name 3 better pitchers in the league. Send him out for the 8th with 89 pitches and 8 strikeouts. Might we see a complete game 10+ ks?
“UPDATE, 12:14 a.m.: When is Jerry Hairston Jr. Bobblehead Day?”
If Hairston was a Cleveland Indian, it would be the day after he got traded.
# Pel August 14th, 2009 at 12:25 am
>how many SS have been much better in the history of MLB?
Trick question.
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ARod
lmao DT, do you know if they canceled that bobblehead day for VMART?
Was A-Rod wrong though?
On those dynasty teams, you feared Bernie and O’Neil and Tino… not Jeter.
It’s not something he should have said, but he wasn’t wrong.
CB,
OPS is so outdated man! It’s all about wOBA, WAR, VORP, IsoP, etc
BD- His point today was that Arroyo’s ERA is misleading because he has had a few starts where he have given up 10ERs. I havent really looked up each of his individual stats (too tired too now) but from what he said he had a few terrible starts and that the rest were pretty decent. I asked him if you would see this type of performance in the AL (if he has an 4.5+ ERA in the NL it will be worse here) and he claimed that Arroyo has proven he can pitch in the AL and would be good here.
I was tired of arguing with him so I just gave up at that point. In the end, the Yanks dont need another guy that is that inconsistent. What good is a guy if he gives you one good start and 3 bad ones? I guess he’d be better than Mitre but there has to be something better out there.
Interesting to note he did mention that he thinks the Yankees will call up Igawa. I guess you never kow. Guy has been dominating the minors but I unfort. think hes nothing more than a AAAA player.
A poll in Sports Illustrated this week asked players which hitter would you least like to face with the game on the line. Pujols was the overwhelming first choice.
Jeter, I believe finished either second or third.
GB
I heard someone interviewed the other day, can’t remember who (Girardi?), who said Kelleher also got Jeter in a new set position so he gets a quicker first step than he ever has.
Little things can make a big difference.
“the NESN gun had him at 95-96 for much of the game.”
i watched it on NESN..i saw 97-100 a whole bunch of times
Fair enough, CB. I just think that you are limiting the scope of greatness in the other direction- saying his insane BA and great defense is enough to make him a first ballot guy. I think it is enough to get him in, but for an all time great, I want my corner OF to hit for a lot more power, or at least reach base enough to make up for the lack of power. I’m not sure he does.
On those dynasty teams, you feared Bernie and O’Neil and Tino… not Jeter.
It’s not something he should have said, but he wasn’t wrong.
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Most people don’t fear the #2/Lead off hitter??? Ok so? Is a hall of fame requirement “Fear Factor”, who are you? Jim Rice?
Boy, Sabathia sure has been a disappointment this season.
“Self-proclaimed awesomeness is a sure sign of non-awesomeness”
Dude you wouldn’t know awesomeness if it slapped you in the jerkface. I’m Awesome!… live w/ it, I certainly do.
BD 2.0
August 14th, 2009 at 12:23 am
“Jeter is the perfect example of “right place right time”.
Great player, great representative of the organization… but not one of the greatest of all time like some believe.”
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how many SS have been much better in the history of MLB?
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Two….Wagner and Rodriguez. After that it’s Jeter and maybe 3 others. That’s it.
The only people who knock Jeter are the A-Rod fans who childishly decided to pick sides, with 2 guys who are on the same team.
CC pitch count is not that high so he could go out there for at least one more inning. I just don’t think the Yankees should over work him because they need him fresh for the playoffs.
Hinske should go to and from the batter’s box on a Segway.
Jeter will soon hold the all-time Yankee hit record at 35.
that’s all I have to say about that.
GODZILLA!
OH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
Matsui goes deep again!!
“I saw the game on NESN and he hit 100 multiple times and was 97+ in the 7th and 8th. Not sure what NESN you saw. Eck and Orsillo commented on it constantly.”
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interesting. I missed the game from the 6th on.
apparently, he wasn’t throwing as hard over the first 5 innings if that’s the case. he was 95 or 96 on almost all of the fastballs I saw in the earlier innings.
impressive nonetheless.
p.s. I watched the New England Sports Network (NESN), not sure if there is another one.
Brandon – when all else fails, come in tomorrow and blame tonight on an impostor.
Matsui !!!!
I thought Ichiro caught that, haha
Jeter’s average season (162 games) R-119, H-207, 2B-33, HR-17, TB-300, RBI-87, SB-23, BA-.316, OBP-.387, SLG-.458, OPS-.844
How are we even discussing how good he is?
Is Tex MVP yet?
Matsui vs Ichiro DING DING
Rd.1 to Matsui-san
If matsui stops at third base can we call it a triple and give him a cycle? : D
I’d take Carl Ripkin over Jeter… he was an iron man.
Matsui says “Hall of Fame? What is this hall you speak of?”
All the V-Mart bobbleheads were sent down to the same place they sent the Patriots’ “19-0 The Perfect Season” t-shirts.
What a climb/leap from Ichiro.
The Yanks are really going to miss Matsui’s production next season.
He and Damon both have been very very good players for this team over the last several years.
Is Tex ever going to break .300? It seems like he’s been hovering around .280 for like 2 months.
“Brandon – when all else fails, come in tomorrow and blame tonight on an impostor.”
Why?
You guys remember when I said Matsui looked old, and was broken down, and his career was finished, and they should try to trade him?
Yeah, I was completely wrong.
Also, heck of an attempt by Ichiro.
The idiot fan catches the ball possibly preventing Ichiro from making a play, and then he throws the ball back into the field. Why do the first thing if you’re going to do the second thing?
Matsui – stop wasting your big hits in games that are already decided. Save them for tomorrow.
Everyone stop scoring please. Dont use up your hits.
pat
August 14th, 2009 at 12:28 am
GB
I heard someone interviewed the other day, can’t remember who (Girardi?), who said Kelleher also got Jeter in a new set position so he gets a quicker first step than he ever has.
Little things can make a big difference.
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Yeah, Kelleher has been able to get flaws removed from Jeter and Cano that even Bowa was either unable or didn’t try to correct. You watch and see if he doesn’t work on Rodriguez next year. It’s apparent that he has done some work with him on popups. He’s so much steadier and sure of himself getting under the ball.
Seriously that fan is a moron. Stay out of the play dude, I wanted to see if Ichiro could rob that ball. The game is over, it would have been fun to see
Matsui is already in the Japanese Hall of Fame.
We’ll need runs 2morrow, Mitre is pitching, hahaha
Brandon, Do understand really what a great SS Derek Jete has been and still is ????? He’s the perfect baseball pitcher………Sabathia is in the midst of his annual late season dominance……….Brandon, if Cal Ripkein was a first ballot HOF, then Derek Jeter’s invites are already printed….
I lied, Andy is pitching, Im not worried
I cant believe I just took the time to read arguments as to why Jeter is “overrated” and “not a first ballot HOF’er”.
I want my 4 minutes back.
Yeah let’s trade Matsui for Jonathan Sanchez!!! That’s the winning ticket!
“It seems like he’s been hovering around .280 for like 2 months.”
Hitting .180 for 6 weeks will do that to you.
Here’s a nice chronological history of the Jeter-ARod feud:
http://armchairgm.wikia.com/in.....A-Rod_feud
No wonder kate hudson won’t sit with the other wifes and gives Minka the stink-eye.
CC should call it a night.
Shdw
August 14th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Is Tex ever going to break .300? It seems like he’s been hovering around .280 for like 2 months.
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seriously? who cares? his OBP (much more important) is in the .380”s (So is Swisher’s for that matter)
Flash said what I was thinking… why is CC out there again, for the 8th?
If you can honestly sit there and call Jeter overrated and that he’s not a first ballot HoF’er then you are not a yankee fan, dude’s gonna be the first yankee with 3000+ hits…
I think CC is back out there because of Go Dan and Meat Tray coming in back to back games. They may need All Star pitcher Swisher after those two start.
Uke
August 14th, 2009 at 12:27 am
lmao DT, do you know if they canceled that bobblehead day for VMART?
No they didn’t cancel. In fact they had TWO Martinez give aways the week after he was traded… lol
“But what’s done is done and the Tribe has confirmed to CNBC’s Darren Rovell that it will awkwardly go ahead with tonight’s Victor Martinez(notes) bobblehead giveaway and Thursday’s Victor Martinez chest protector backpack promotion despite trading Martinez to the Red Sox on Friday afternoon.”
http://tiny.cc/7CthA
“Yeah let’s trade Matsui for Jonathan Sanchez!!! That’s the winning ticket!”
Love Matsui but this is likely the goodbye tour from him, he’s going out w/ a bang.
Abdababdaserser August 14th, 2009 at 12:36 am
I think CC is back out there because of Go Dan and Meat Tray coming in back to back games. They may need All Star pitcher Swisher after those two start
Someone gets it
“I lied, Andy is pitching, Im not worried”
Technically, you were right. It’s already Friday and Mitre pitches on Saturday, so, he pitches tomorrow.
Look up Paul O’ Neill’s stats and tell me when he was ever a better player than Derek Jeter during the “Dynasty Years.”
O’Neill a more feared hitter than Jeter. Laughable.
Jeter his .349 with 24 home runs in 1999, when he should have been MVP. His .339 in 2000 and was the World Series MVP. O’Neill was already in decline.
DT, there sure are some problems in that Indians organization, they traded a cy young winner 2 years in a row, an all star catcher, Garko(not that good) I guess they at least added Jose Veras! and Joe I, good point
CC is dealing. We’re getting ready to watch him go on a run.
Yanks about to reach a season high 29 games over .500
40 games over (101-61) within reach…
My goodness, this team is a pleasure to watch. What a run, since the Angels series, huh?
wow how does Ichiro only have 32 rbis when hes batting .360, i know hes leading off but still
10ks!!
What? Trade Jeter for Jonathan Sanchez??
CC!!
CC 10Ks first time as a yankee, congratz
wasnt sure if I was going crazy so I went back and checked.
indeed, Verlander was at 95-96mph for the first 5 innings.
In the 6th and particularly the 7th/8th he dialed it up a notch and added another 1-3mph to his 4seamer hitting 100mph.
impressive to say the least.
BEAST MODE
CC! OK, turn this over to the pen…
“I think it is enough to get him in, but for an all time great, I want my corner OF to hit for a lot more power, or at least reach base enough to make up for the lack of power. I’m not sure he does.”
Mo,
But now you are indirectly penalizing him for having one of the great outfield arms in recent history.
The fact that he plays RF is to a large degree happenstance.
He could easily have played his entire career in CF. Now for whatever reason, he doesn’t like CF and he is very difficult and surly, but there is simply no question that he could play CF and do it very well.
He plays RF because of his arm.
And his ability to play RF with CF talent is a huge plus, especially when you can pair him with a good defensive CF.
I’m not trying to change your mind. You want more power because he plays RF, OK.
IMO that is pushing position specific criteria too far.
We talk about finding a players “true talent” level all of the time these days.
IMO true talent is determined through both quantitative and qualitative data.
And to me, Ichiro its the qualitative argument that is the strongest in many ways. He’s a different player in type and kind.
He’s a player who is playing outside of his era and is more akin to Ty Cobb, etc.
But to me that uniqueness in the contemporary context adds important variety. It adds different ways of beating your oppenent and I think that’s a very underestimated part of the game.
I would agree more with you, quantitatively, if his OBP weren’t good. But it is. The power issue is less important, IMO.
Itchy looked twitchy with that at bat. lol
In a big spot, Jeter was (and probably still is) one of the more feared hitters in baseball for the simple reason that a pitcher can perfectly execute his pitch and still watch Jeter fight the pitch off for a base hit.
Total Domination. Unbelievable.
Are you ready to rent some cahhhs?
Wow. Amazing night for CC. 10K’s through 8 innings
great game for CC…they needed length from him with the pen being tired and mitre and gaudin coming up and they got that…105 pitches, but not a stressful one in the bunch…superb job…and 10 k’s!
Too bad that Carsten Charles guy isn’t as good as Josh Beckett. :/
is it too early to start the “please stay for years 4, 5, 6, and 7 CC!!!!” campaign???
He got Ichiro
can someone get me a stats comparison
Yankees W/L record Aug. 13, 1999
vs
Yankees W/L record Aug. 13, 2009
Mo Rivera’s another one of those “right time/right place” guys.
Might have been a Hall of Famer. Then he gave up that HR a couple of nights ago.
Pat M.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Brandon, Do understand really what a great SS Derek Jete has been and still is ????? He’s the perfect baseball pitcher………Sabathia is in the midst of his annual late season dominance……….Brandon, if Cal Ripkein was a first ballot HOF, then Derek Jeter’s invites are already printed….
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Jeter will go into the HOF on first ticket. One of the errors that voters have screwed up on, is who Jeter reminds me of as a player….Alan Trammell. Same type of player as than Jeter. Jeter has more hits and a higher average…but that’s it.
“Nick in SF August 14th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Total Domination. Unbelievable.
Are you ready to rent some cahhhs?”
I love that commercial.
Hall of famer Tony Gwynn played right field.
darn Joe Mauer…
at this pace, he’s the only thing in the way of Cano winning the batting title
I suppose Ichiro’s in the way too….
# BD 2.0 August 14th, 2009 at 12:42 am
is it too early to start the “please stay for years 4, 5, 6, and 7 CC!!!!” campaign???
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Just think the story of 2011 will be “will CC opt-out?”
If Ichiro had caught Matsui’s 2nd HR, it still wouldn’t have been as good as this catch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwuWPRG72ZY
Well it looks like the Yankee hitters are in “finish this up” mode
CB, dude, it’s 12:45…short posts!
CB, but that is exactly what gets me about his case. It is loaded with hypotheticals.
If he had played CF…..
If he tried to hit homers……
If he played his whole career in USA…..
If he batted 3rd……
The fact is, he played right, hit lots of singles, played in Japan, and lead off. If you judge him based on what he has actually done, I dont see him as a first ballot guy.
Brandon
71-43
Yay Molina
From yesterday’s Bergan Record
“I’m having a great time [in New York],” he said. “I don’t know what it was like in the clubhouse before this year, but this is the best [team] chemistry I’ve ever seen.”
Sabathia says there’s “no way” he’s opting out of his contract after 2011, despite a clause that allows him to file for free agency.
“My agent put that [clause] in there, but I’m not going anywhere,” Sabathia said. “I’m having too much fun.”
http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....038;page=2
How many runs will Bruney give up?
“Sabathia is in the midst of his annual late season dominance………”
A big problem for the rest of baseball is that Teixeira, Cano and Sabathia have been better players the second half of seasons than in the first half.
And with Cano and Tex – they have been significantly better the second half compared to the first.
Yeah….Suzuki is Wade Boggs with speed and a better defensive player. Does Boggs belong in the HOF?
Hopefully none. I want to go to bed
Now I’m just staying up to see the 6.5 in the standings…
Pat M, good to see you. You are going to be at the game in Oakland Monday night, yes?
“How many runs will Bruney give up?”
4.
walk
single
single
double scoring 2
groundout
sac fly
K
K
“What? Trade Jeter for Jonathan Sanchez??”
This made me laugh
Bruney climbs to the mound with a bucket and a mop
Gwynn, unlike Ichiro, played his learning years in MLB, as well as having his decline included, and still has a better BA, OBP, and SLG than Ighiro. He also won a number of GG. Too tired to do more digging.
That’s 1
Wow. Amazing night for CC. 10K’s through 8 innings
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Yeah – but this is the Mariner offense, remember?
Felix had 10K’s through 7 innings last night vs. the WS
Why can’t Felix pitch every night?
Oh well, maybe the M’s are just saving all their wins this series for when I’m in attendance (I’ll be there Fri, Sat and Sun) …
And yes, Sis – I’ll be calling you
let’s see…Bruney gives up….none…he is saving it…
“Too tired to do more digging.”
Actually, the first thing you’re supposed to do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging.
Nick in SF-
hold up a Zhang Ziyi poster in Oakland, so we’ll know it’s you.
That’s 2
“The fact is, he played right, hit lots of singles, played in Japan, and lead off. If you judge him based on what he has actually done, I dont see him as a first ballot guy.”
And that’s fine.
But to be honest, much of the quantitative work in baseball is completely hypothetical.
And people now give it a huge amount of weight.
For example, wOBA is completely abstract. It is not empirical at all.
It is the product of an abstract model.
But that abstract hypothetical is now the “gold standard” for what “true talent” is.
There’s no way that Ichiro couldn’t play top notch CF.
And to me that’s not really hypothetical as much as it is a thought experiment that isn’t difficult to conduct.
““I’m having a great time [in New York],” he said. “I don’t know what it was like in the clubhouse before this year, but this is the best [team] chemistry I’ve ever seen.””
CC it was miserable w/o you Swish and AJ, they even had a no candy policy
…DON’T LEAVE!
0 nice job Bruney!
6.5!!!
nice inning for Bruney, his velocity seems all the way back
GG
Tolda Ya….
Who is in a hole, NIck?
That’s 3.
Man Bruney was brutal. Gave up so many runs, exhausted himself with so many pitches.
hehehehehe
6.5? are we eliminated yet?
Maybe tomorrow the Mariners should set off the fireworks on the warning track shots since they seem to hit a ton of those.
Congrats on the win, Yank fans.
I hope my team can provide yours with a bit more competition for the remainder of the series….
~Rosy
I dread thinking about Matsui in Fenway next year replacing Papi.
Gwynn is hitting exactly 5 points higher than Suzuki. suzuki will reach 2000 hits this year in the ML. He shows zero signs of slowing down, so, 3,000 hits are his in 5 years. He’ll then be 40 years old.
6.5
This team is looking down right scary.
CC is certainly looks like an “ace” now…
Bruney looks like he is back to his early season form.
He’s locating his fastball very well and it has a nice downwards plane to it again.
This team is shaping up as a juggernaut.
“I hope my team can provide yours with a bit more competition for the remainder of the series….”
Rosy, don’t worry… you get to tee off Mitre and Gaudin this weekend.
Maybe tomorrow the Mariners should set off the fireworks on the warning track shots since they seem to hit a ton of those.
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What’s this about fireworks?
I’ve never known them to set off fireworks at Safeco, with the exception of Opening Day ceremonies…
Who is in A Hole????
Is that a trick question??
Don’t worry Rosy, I think you’ll be in for a treat on Saturday and Sunday.
The Yanks won’t exactly be throwing Drysdale and Koufax out there.
Why are the guys on NFL Live analyzing QB stats from a preseason game?
Gordon Damer needs to do some postgames w/ Bob what’s his name and Flash Gordon..srsly he’s a hoot to listen to.
I’ve been to Larkspur in the UK many years ago. One of South Wales’ hidden gems!
“6.5? are we eliminated yet?”
And do you know who the biggest contributor to that lead has been this season?
Derek Jeter.
Matsui looked distracted during that interview… almost like he kept turning his head trying to find his paper wife in the stands.
“I hope my team can provide yours with a bit more competition for the remainder of the series….”
Saturday and Sunday could be good for you guys offensively, especially Saturday.
What’s this about fireworks?
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I think there were fireworks after Wilson’s HR, no?
either that, or whole bunch of Rastafarians showed up at one time.
Did anyone see that stat YES put up earlier that the three pitchers in all of baseball with the most wins in August since 2005 are Sabathia, Pettitte, and Burnett?
I love having so many great second half players. It’s comforting to know that the Yankees are always hot down the stretch, especially because it ALWAYS puts pressure on the Red Sox, who notoriously cool down in the summer months.
DT, you’ll know it’s me when I hold up a copy of “Brave New World” every time the Yanks score.
UPDATE, 11:50 p.m.: Snell has retired seven straight. Yankees are in “We gave CC the lead, see you tomorrow” mode.
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Not quite, eh Pete? LOL!
This is a waste of Damer’s talent. He was an excellent sports talk host on 1050… why make him a field reporter?
“And do you know who the biggest contributor to that lead has been this season?
Derek Jeter.”
So lets trade Teix and Alex for some stud pitching, since this team in 09′ has been carried by Jetes.
Who gets the belt tonight? CC or Matsui (4 hits, 5 RBI)?
Who gets the belt tonight? CC or Matsui (4 hits, 5 RBI)?
GB
I’m really happy that after 14 years, Kelleher has been able to get Jeter to stop that side arm flip off of his front foot. It’s made a world of difference in making his throws accurate.
You’re totally right. There are so many things that Jeter is doing better this year defensively that I continue to be amazed. He’s playing back and planting on the throw, much better first step, etc. Offensively he’s started going up the middle, much less Jeter the DP machine, an enormous upgrade on both sides of the plate.
This team needed a laugher but the blog may have needed it more.
Is it that cold in Seattle? The players look like they did in April for that exhibition game when it was 30 degrees.
I’m BEING SARCASTIC CB.
“This is a waste of Damer’s talent. He was an excellent sports talk host on 1050… why make him a field reporter?”
IKR.
Lol, Nick.
CB,
But then where do you draw the line? wOBA is not really abstract, in the sense that it takes concrete numbers and weighs them in a certain way, and then applies that standard equally to everybody. This thought experiment, on the other hand, requires us to imagine something about a player that never really happened, and more importantly, it requires us to create an imaginary standard. I bet Ichiro is not the only player who couldv’e played another position. At what point is the cutoff for hypothetical achievements? Can I credit Teixeira as a 3b-man? Can I still count A-Rod as a SS?
From http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....f-baseball
“If you judge a player’s performance by their stats you have to love Ichiro. Ichiro is the only player in the history of baseball to have more than 200 hits in his first seven seasons.
It took the all time hits leader Pete Rose until his third year to have a 200 hit season. Consistency has also been part of Ichiro’s game, where in his first seven full seasons in the Majors, Ichiro has hit for a .300+ average and at least 40 stolen bases every season.
Also let’s compare some of his stats so far in his seven years in the bigs to some of the all-time greats. According to Baseball-Reference.com, Ichiro averages nearly 30 more hits per season than the all-time hits leader Pete Rose.
Also Ichiro averages the same amount of stolen bases in a 162 game season than Joe Morgan who’s No. 11 all-time.Last but not least Suzuki has a better career batting average than hall-of-famers Wade Boggs,Rod Carew,Honus Wagner, and Joe Dimaggio.”
Brandon,
CB is right according to WAR. Ever heard of positional adjustment?
It’s 1998 again on my TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wiki
“Midway through the 2009 season, Ichiro has the highest career batting average among active players. At .333, he now leads Albert Pujols (.33293) of the St. Louis Cardinals”
“Nick in SF
August 14th, 2009 at 1:00 am
DT, you’ll know it’s me when I hold up a copy of “Brave New World” every time the Yanks score.”
Cool. Hardbound, paperback, or cliff notes?
might be a few of you – I hear Huxley is big out there.
Ichiro has made the most of the turf he plays on.
DT: whichever edition has Aldous Huxley in the biggest print on the front cover. He is very big out here… Absolutely Huge.
From Tyler Kepner:
“The Yankees are considering a change in starting pitchers for the weekend. Their initial plan was to give Joba Chamberlain extra rest and push him back to Wednesday in Oakland, with Sergio Mitre starting here Saturday, followed by Chad Gaudin on Sunday.
But that could leave the Yankees without a long reliever for several days, meaning the plan might change. Joe Girardi was expected to announce his decision after the game.”
Put Ichiro in NYS for his career and he hits 250 HRs
There is Melancon in AAA?
Phil
August 14th, 2009 at 1:03 am
It’s 1998 again on my TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It only seems that way.
The 1998 was 84-30 at this point of their season. That team was so good that it would have a 14 game lead on this team!
Sick, isn’t it?
Bo Knows
August 14th, 2009 at 1:01 am
GB
I’m really happy that after 14 years, Kelleher has been able to get Jeter to stop that side arm flip off of his front foot. It’s made a world of difference in making his throws accurate.
You’re totally right. There are so many things that Jeter is doing better this year defensively that I continue to be amazed. He’s playing back and planting on the throw, much better first step, etc. Offensively he’s started going up the middle, much less Jeter the DP machine, an enormous upgrade on both sides of the plate.
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It was always the one major issue that I had with him. You knew the throw would either sail wide right or into the dirt like a lawn dart. That usually accounted for 3/4ths of his errors. He seldom just booted the ball. With Cano, it’s just the opposite. Almost never see a bad throw, but, the boots would account for most of his errors.
“wOBA is not really abstract, in the sense that it takes concrete numbers and weighs them in a certain way, and then applies that standard equally to everybody. This thought experiment, on the other hand, requires us to imagine something about a player that never really happened, and more importantly, it requires us to create an imaginary standard.”
It’ s too late to get into this…
But now you’re no longer making an argument against “hypotheticals.”
You are making an argument for standardization. Which is implicitly the argument much of sabermetrics is based on.
Standardized views are better. They are privledged.
It’s a striking ironic view of the game. Because baseball was intentionally designed and has continued to evolve as a non-standardized game. It is intentionally one of the few team sports in the world where there is no standardized playing fields.
While the inputs to wOBA are empirical it’s out puts are not.
Same thing for it’s close cousin runs created based on linear weights.
The outputs are abstractions. And I don’t think enough people fully understand the implications of this for modeling in general and in baseball in particular.
It’s the outputs that you have to consider.
People firmly believed that the outputs to the Black-Scholes model weren’t abstractions.
And look how that turned out…
Bad math by me. The 1998 team would “only” have a 12 game lead on this year’s squad. “Only” LOL!
LOL @ Nick. Nicely done. A double. I set ya up.
time for some zzzzzzz.
Bo Knows, Great observation on Jeter setting up better, much improved……Nick in SF, I fly into to Oakland from Seattle Monday afternoon……A NY buddy who lives in SF, is picking me up…All I know is that we ussually sit behind the Yankee’s dugout somewhere…..GB, Trammell belongs in Copperstown, in fact he should have been there some years ago……
Here’s the important thing.
The Yankees are 6.5 games up on the Red Sox and they have 6 games left head to head.
What started as an 8-0 beating for the Sox has now turned into the fact that they actually have to rely on the Yankees to lose games because they no longer control their own destiny in the division.
“Trammell belongs in Copperstown, in fact he should have been there some years ago……”
Lou Whitaker is the guy who has really gotten the shaft when it comes to the hall…
This is an argument for a different time, although I do think you are playing fast and loose with the term “abstractions.” Regardless, I still find Ichiro’s basic case, without the hypotheticals, to be lacking for a first ballot HOF’er, and the hypothetical line is not one I am willing to cross, because it just requires to many assumptions and too much guesswork.
Pat M: there is talk of a little get-together before the game, brash young LoHud commenter Mad Prince in Pinstripes was talking it up…. either way, we should at least hook up for a beer, especially if you’re still buying
People firmly believed that the outputs to the Black-Scholes model weren’t abstractions.
And look how that turned out…
wow.
Good CB Hunting?
how do ya like dem apples?
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“Rosy, don’t worry… you get to tee off Mitre and Gaudin this weekend.”
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We’ll see….
I’ll hope to see some of those fireworks
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“Is it that cold in Seattle? The players look like they did in April for that exhibition game when it was 30 degrees.”
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It’s in the mid-fifties. Just a tad cooler than the 105 we had a couple of weeks ago. We are in the midst of the driest summer in 60 years. The rain the past couple of days is the first “measurable precipitation” since mid-July. Good thing Safeco Field has a roof
That was a fun win.
I think we needed that.
And I really like the fact that as good as Sox fans gotta feel about the way their team played, they have to feel just as frustrated seeing that they gained no ground at all.
We all know that feeling. It sucks. It puts you on edge.
Hangin on every flicker of the scoreboard. That’s what Sox fans are doing now.
Not Jerry or Hairy GI Joe calls him Jr.?
“This is an argument for a different time, although I do think you are playing fast and loose with the term “abstractions.””
No I’m not. That’s one thing i can tell you with a high degree of certainty.
Pat M.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Bo Knows, Great observation on Jeter setting up better, much improved……Nick in SF, I fly into to Oakland from Seattle Monday afternoon……A NY buddy who lives in SF, is picking me up…All I know is that we ussually sit behind the Yankee’s dugout somewhere…..GB, Trammell belongs in Copperstown, in fact he should have been there some years ago……
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That Trammell/Whittaker DP combination was absolutely the best ever, combining offense and defense. I used to get so sick of hearing how great the Russell/Lopes combo was. Those two were ok on offense, but, defensively, they were pretty much below average, as was Garvey. He had no arm and zero range. he never got more than 7-10 feet oof of the bag, and it kept his error totals low.
damn its good to be a ballplayer from left to right. Karen Burnett,Amber Sabathia,Kate Hudson, and Michelle Damon
http://view.picapp.com/default.....id=5933190
CB
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 am
“Trammell belongs in Copperstown, in fact he should have been there some years ago……”
Lou Whitaker is the guy who has really gotten the shaft when it comes to the hall…
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Absolutely. They should have gone in as a team.
on June 24th, the Yanks had a 35.7% chance of making the playoffs according to CoolStandings.com.
after tonight’s win, they now have a 96.4% chance.
conversely, the Red Sox have gone from an 83% chance on July 17th (their high-water mark) to a 51.1% currently.
Texas just .5 games behind Boston.
Ok, then let’s have the discussion now, if you are willing. How are the outputs for wOBA abstractions?
Excellent job tonight CC. Just what we needed. Offense – save some runs for tomorrow! Yanks are going to average 7-9 runs a game in this series. Offense is due to break out and Seattle’s pitching is pretty bad.
as a nyy fan since 1957, i can truthfully say that jeter is the greatest ss i have ever seen and is a certain first ballot HOfer! as for ichiro, if he completes 10 full seasons in american baseball, he will be in the HOF (but probably not first ballot due to several different prejudices being in play!)
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“Ichiro has made the most of the turf he plays on.”
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Is there something unique about the Safeco Field grass?
LOL my gf told me she loves Kate too but she akways has that
“What does that mean?” face in some pics
Is there something unique about the Safeco Field grass?
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I think that is just saying with the teams he has been handed, Ichiro has made the best of it.
Imagine a guy like ichiro on the yankees, in yankee stadium. He’d be even more of a superstar
always*
CC’s wife is cute.
I’m a big Whitaker and Grich to the Hall proponent.
Why I’m so impressed with Jeter after I badmouthed his defense for years is that he is Derek Jeter. He didn’t have to change Didley. He is the media darling. And yet at age 35 he is willing to work and adjust in order to improve. The obvious question is where was he lo these many years while I was throwing things at the screen.
Nice blog, Rosy.
the optimistic hue-point would play very well here (that OPPC you see in some of the screen names is for ‘Optimistic Positive Posters’ Club’)
Why is no one blaming Selig for enabling the steroid error?
Mo,
At this point, I am only willing to go to bed. We’ll have to save it for another time.
I’m honestly not trying to tell you to change your opinion.
Just consider what I had to say. I’m not just making this stuff up or pulling it out of thin air.
Models are inherently abstract. They are representations.
This is in no way a controversial statement in most fields where statistics are used.
And in no way does their nature as abstractions delegitimatize them.
And with them I’m calling it a night.
Nick in SF, Drinks will be on me as my Yankee investments have been quite a windfall these past 3 months……Lou Whitaker absolutely belongs in Copperstown…In fact it’s a sin that they don’t go in as the great combo that they were…….GB, Lopes & Russel were good, better than average, however that whole Dodger infiled was unique because they came up together and played for so long on a very good Dodger team…….I was hoping for a 6-4 road trip…..
Rowland-Smith is pitching tomorrow night, and, he’s a very good young pitcher. If Rodriguez and Posada are out of the lineup, NYY may have trouble with scoring. Pettitte will need to control Suzuki, Branyon and Lopez.
My favorite game in game – Ichiro suckering CC to throw another slider for his hit. CC paying him back with his tenth SO. Absolute classic, made the whole game for me. I’ll be chuckling about that one tomorrow.
Actually GGBG, the 14 game difference is accurate. The ’98 team was 86-29 compared to 72-43 for the ’09 edition through 115 games.
The ’09 team is 57-26 for its last 83, only 4 games behind the 61-22 for the ’98 team in the corresponding portion of the season.
Ok, CB, that is cool. We can continue a different time. I get what you are saying. Maybe I need to define what I took issue with better. I’ll bring it up at a later date.
Good back and forth on the Ichiro HOF debate. However, his general awesomeness and more specifically his nutty quotes will tip the scales in his favor!
debate?
no debate.
he is a first ballot hall of famer for many reasons.
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“Offense is due to break out and Seattle’s pitching is pretty bad.”
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Granted, lately other than Felix and RR-S (and the dearly departed Washburn) the pitching hasn’t been great. Yet, despite their fall back to earth, they are still sporting the best ERA in the league.
Speaking of Wash – seems he’s missing his old pitching coach – ran across this the other day….
http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffma......html#more
Here’s hoping Adair can work a few miracles with Mr. Snell and Mr. French
As for our “Mister Fister”…
don’t let that 0-0 record and 0.00ERA fool you. He has actually started a game (and pitched an inning of relief). His first major league start was Monday vs. the Chi-Sox and he held them to just one hit and zero runs. Unfortunately, a rare lapse by Aardsma prevented him (and the M’s) from getting the victory but, it was a pretty impressive debut none-the-less…
http://compassrosy.blogspot.co.....ister.html
Pat M, I can be contacted via the screen name on my flickr page, I’ll post it later or tomorrow if you don’t have it already, now I have to head back to Marin, house/dogsitting…
Pat M.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Nick in SF, Drinks will be on me as my Yankee investments have been quite a windfall these past 3 months……Lou Whitaker absolutely belongs in Copperstown…In fact it’s a sin that they don’t go in as the great combo that they were…….GB, Lopes & Russel were good, better than average, however that whole Dodger infiled was unique because they came up together and played for so long on a very good Dodger team…….I was hoping for a 6-4 road trip…..
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Not being on the West Coast, maybe I didn’t see them as much, other than the Cubs and Braves, but, those two always seemed to make erors. I just compare them to Trammell/Whitacker and the Russell/Lopes pale in comparison. And T/W just killed you with the bat. I’d say that the closest to Whitacker may have been Frank White.
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“Nice blog, Rosy.”
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Thanks Yada
so, I’m noticing a pattern here. I made a comment just now and another back during the game that both had more than one link and they both are “awaiting moderation”. Is it because of the multiple links?
I’ll try it again, one link at a time…
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“Offense is due to break out and Seattle’s pitching is pretty bad.”
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Granted, lately other than Felix and RR-S (and the dearly departed Washburn) the pitching hasn’t been great. Yet, despite their fall back to earth, they are still sporting the best ERA in the league.
Speaking of Wash – seems he’s missing his old pitching coach – ran across this the other day….
http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffma.....;html#more
Here’s hoping Adair can work a few miracles with Mr. Snell and Mr. French
GB. Lopes & Russell don’t match Trammell & Whitaker….Lopes was an offense force because of his great base stealing skills…He also had some pop…..Defensively they were average at best……Willie Randolph I always thought was better than Frank White…..
The 1998 was 84-30 at this point of their season. That team was so good that it would have a 14 game lead on this team!
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and if this year’s team had the same 84-30 record Skip Bayless would still pick them to finish behind the Red Sox and out of the playoffs.
Pat M.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:46 am
GB. Lopes & Russell don’t match Trammell & Whitaker….Lopes was an offense force because of his great base stealing skills…He also had some pop…..Defensively they were average at best……Willie Randolph I always thought was better than Frank White…..
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Loved Randolph’s play, too. Just wished that he would have had a little more power. When his legs left, he was just a glove. White didn’t have Randolph’s average, but, he had everything else. It was a great era to like 2nd basemen, though. There were so many outstanding ones.
Am I the only one here who has never heard of Honas Wagner?
Honas Wagner?
Wasn’t he one of the Honas Brothers (the teen band)?
and, after a little computer crash, the other link
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As for our “Mister Fister”…
don’t let that 0-0 record and 0.00ERA fool you. He has actually started a game (and pitched an inning of relief). His first major league start was Monday vs. the Chi-Sox and he held them to just one hit and zero runs. Unfortunately, a rare lapse by Aardsma prevented him (and the M’s) from getting the victory but, it was a pretty impressive debut none-the-less…
http://compassrosy.blogspot.co…..ister.html
Don’t forget Bobby Grich.
# G.O.P.S. August 14th, 2009 at 1:52 am
The 1998 was 84-30 at this point of their season. That team was so good that it would have a 14 game lead on this team!
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What was their record 28 games into the season?
This year, the Yanks were 13-15 while ARod was on the DL.
We’re 59-28 since ARod came back.
I wonder if the records are comparable when including ARod.
I’m betting the ‘Roid Sox get sweept this weekend n Texas and they fall 3 games behind the Rangers in the Wild Card race, which will tripper mass suicides in bean town.
“dtv
August 14th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Honas Wagner?
Wasn’t he one of the Honas Brothers (the teen band)?”
i just threw up a little…
Any announcements from Mr. Girardi regarding Joba/the rotation?
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Syndal is not that not, and she is a groupie. Before Gaudin she was with the married Mark Burhle and Lance Nyx, not to mention some big ass lineman. She is about as easy as any spring training hooker that you see sitting in the stands looking for a handout. Ohh by the way I know about 5 guys from my town that have tapped that. Get over her oversized mountains, shes not much to talk to.