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That’s Jeter being Jeter

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 14, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A big part of beat writing is chasing injuries. It’s not a fun part of the job because most players don’t like talking about being hurt. But it has to be done.

Derek Jeter makes it easy. He just pretends he’s not hurt.

This scene yesterday from the clubhouse …

Jeter arrived at his locker. The writers gathered around, wanting to ask him about his right foot. Jeter had left the previous day’s game with a bruise on his instep after getting hit by a pitch. Jeter knew we had to ask him, but he sort of pretended we weren’t there as he talked to Jorge Posada.

“Watch this,” he said to Jorge.

With that, Jeter turned around and smiled. “I’m fine,” he said.

Then he demonstrated such by walking away. “Are you playing?” he was asked.

“Yep,” Jeter said over his shoulder.

The writers all laughed, as did Posada. But Jeter is smart. By not talking about injuries, he avoids the hassle and further hones his reputation as a durable team player. Some guys can’t wait to tell the writers about every little bruise because they want to be seen as willing to play hurt.

Jeter just plays.

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Jeter has started 1,901 of the 2,056 games the Yankees have played since he became a regular in 1996. Only 16 other players have started games at shortstop for the Yankees in those 13 seasons. They are:

Enrique Wilson 31
Erick Almonte 29
Luis Sojo 25
Wilson Betemit 18
Miguel Cairo 14
Ramiro Pena, Cody Ransom 8
Alberto Gonzalez 7
Clay Bellinger, Andy Fox, Alfonso Soriano 5
Felix Escalona, Rey Sanchez 4
Wilson Delgado, Nick Green 3
Alex Arias 1

Thee Red Sox have used 32 shortstops since 1996. Nomar Garciaparra (951 starts) was once the regular before he was traded in 2004.

Boston’s shortstop roster since the start of the 2004 season:

Julio Lugo 245
Edgar Renteria 150
Alex Cora 112
Alex Gonzalez 110
Jed Lowrie 61
Nick Green 71
Orlando Cabrera 58
Pokey Reese 56
Nomar Garciaparra 37
Cesar Crespo 7
Ramon Vazquez 6
Dustin Pedroia 5
Ricky Gutierrez 3
Mark Bellhorn 2
Royce Clayton 1

It makes you appreciate — or at least it should — how durable Jeter has been and the value that brings.

 
 

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85 Responses to “That’s Jeter being Jeter”

  1. Bill from NJ August 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am

    Jeter represents all that is good in this world.

  2. Evan D. August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    And someone said yesterday that Jeter was just a “solid” player.

    The guy is a 1st ballot HOFer, a great leaders, and a joy to watch.

  3. m August 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am

    lol. Nick Green moving up the career list for the Red Sox.

  4. The Ghost August 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Jeter is one tough mother. It’s really not enough to have talent to be a great player, it’s not even enough to have the ability to work hard to overcome a lack of talent, the most important factor all great players have in common is their durability and ability to play at a high level even through injury.

  5. Richie August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am

    Mattingly used to say he was fine even as his back injury completely robbed him of his power. I’m not sure that served anyone’s interests. It only assuaged his pride. So I’m not sure that remaining silent about injuries is such a virtue.

    As for Jeter being “solid,” I think that probably refers to the fact that he wasn’t a power hitter in an era that was defined by HRs, but in light of what we know now, that has turned into a positive.

  6. Andrew August 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Wow the Erick Almonte Era, how quickly I forgot Ken Huckabee wrecking Derek’s shoulder on Opening Day that year in that head-first slide at 3rd base. Erick Almonte is what used to pass for a Yankees prospect. It’s impressive to see how the farm has grown since those days–Pena is such a good defender at short and while him subbing for a long stretch for Derek would mean a big drop in offense, his D would help remedy it at least slightly.

  7. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Andrew (from the previous thread)
    August 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
    Erica I didn’t even think about the September call-up aspect–Joe Girardi would end up in 1st place in the standings of GTLU within the first week, especially if the Yankees still have a big lead and he starts getting everyone rested for October.

    Regardless, it has been fun to watch the game grow from an off-hand time waster to a hugely-popular LoHud sensation. I will have to do some serious work to get to 1st place before the 31st.

    ***

    Thats exactly what I was thinking. I don’t think LoHud stands any chance after the September call ups. Joe Girardi has 4 wins with just a 25 man roster, when the rosters expand it’ll get nearly impossible. Not to mention, the way this game snowballed I will probably get 75 different line up combinations.

    But I am really glad you enjoy the game. Its people like you who really like it, that keeps me doing it

  8. raymagnetic August 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    “They had an ERA of 6.69 from the pen for nearly the first month of the season.

    That is horrendous. It’s so bad that they whole “small sample size” issue is mitigated to a significant extent.”

    CB,

    My point is that the starters were so horrendous that month that the relievers were bound to be horrendous as well pitching so many innings in relief.

  9. SJ44 August 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am

    As someone who works with the Yankees always tells me, “That’s why he is Derek Jeter”.

    Just like with Mariano, folks won’t truly understand what they had with Jeter until he is long gone.

    A team with this much history has a hard time finding guys to break the stranglehold legends had on career accomplishments and aura. The Yankees have two more in Jeter and Rivera.

    The careers both guys have had, and are still having, is simply amazing.

  10. jay destro August 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    hard workin’ man.

  11. NO HYPE August 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Very fitting that Jeter took one of the last single-digit numbers available

  12. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    At the risk of sounding like a dork,

    When I try to imagine a Yankee team without Derek Jeter I get tears in my eyes

  13. m August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    State of the Yankees: 29 games over .500. Remember how long we were stuck on 23?

    State of the Red Sox: Tied with the Rangers in the loss column and only a 1/2 game lead in the WC race. Oh yeah, they start a series in Arlington tonight.

  14. Tom in N.J. August 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    It’s almost as if somebody took all of the virtues that previous Yankee legends had threw them into the phenomenological ooze and said “make the perfect Yankee”.

  15. upstate kate August 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Jeter and Mo will be so missed when they are gone…2 greats who, to use an overused phrase “play the game the right way”

    Erica- I am glad to hear you are continuing GTLU :)

  16. jennifer August 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    cough cough Johnny cough cough Damon. :-)

  17. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Upstate Kate-

    For now. I am still thinking about it. But I think the last GTLU will be August 31. Still not 100% sure though, but I really think it will be impossible in September

  18. m August 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Did I read that AJ Burnett’s locker is next to Jeter’s? I would think that having a locker next to Mo & Jeter is like the Holy Grail of locker assignments.

  19. MG August 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Whenever I read criticisms of Derek Jeter (no power, no range, weak arm, hits into double plays too much, blah, blah, blah) I know whoever is making those criticisms doesn’t know anything about baseball.

    This is a great player, a certain 1st ballot HOFer, who is a winner, period. A team with 25 Jeters would win 130 games a year and every World Series. That’s all that counts in baseball, winning. All the rest of the stats mean nothing.

  20. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    I thought that Jeter and Mo got corner lockers

  21. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Erica-

    If you really like doing the GTLU, then if I were you, I would impose a limit on the number GTLU entries you can handle effectively and then close the contest once that limit is reached.

    Increase or decrease the entry number daily based on your personal requirements such as workload at your office.
    It is popular so if you can’t run it on a particular day, maybe some of us would volunteer to help run it in your absence. You may want to share “how” you do it with your stand in so as to prevent that wheel from being re-invented.

    It is a thankless job but one that many on here appreciate you doing.

  22. Yadda Yadda Yadda Molina August 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    So reading through yesterday’s posts, it seems the general consensus was this:

    Fernando Rodney should be the next Yankee closer

    Derek Jeter should marry Madonna

    Ichiro Suzuki would only be in the HoF if he played for the Kansas City Royals

  23. Fran (the original) and OPPC member August 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Erica, whether you continue to host Guess the Line-up or not, thanks for doing it. Fun way to fill in the time leading up to the games.

  24. haiku-man August 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Never understood why,Bawstin traded Nomar,before the ALCS in 2004.That is a sore spot position for them yearly.

    I can’t stop watching the tape of Yuk being body slammed by a pitcher,after he charged the mound.

    Bawstin lost their clean up guy to suspension and loses 2-0.

    Yankees lose their clean up guy,from a deliberate plunking by a pitcher,and win 11-1 bwahahah!!

  25. Bronx Jeers August 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    And in reality, the injury that cost him the most time was a freak occurrence and not at all related to his body breaking down.

    I remember him being very pissed off that day.

  26. kool August 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    yup, Jeter just plays. He told kim jones he definitely would right after the game 2 nights ago.

  27. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Frank,

    That is a good suggestion. I did consider an entry limit. (40 seems to be about what I can handle without twitching). But the problem is, I don’t want to penalize people who can’t always be at their computers to get line ups in. I realize people have paying jobs and that should always come before GTLU. I would feel really bad if a regular who enjoys the game a lot, was excluded because they got sidetracked with work.

    No one seems to be stepping up to volunteer to help me. And I would never ask anyone. It really is a lot of work. At this point I have it systematic and I do a lot of copying and pasting. (No, I really don’t retype the standings every night. It’s a Word file I continuously e-mail myself between home and work).

    The hardest part of the game is really just keeping up with the submissions. So many came at me yesterday so quickly that I couldn’t even find a spare 2 minutes to type out the list of entries submitted

  28. Providence August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Interesting how the name “Alex Rodriguez” did not appear on the above list even once. It seems the Yankees have studiously avoided starting him at short regardless of circumstance, even when it may have helped the lineup on a day when Jeter was out. I’ve always wondered if it’s an unspoken nod to Derek for his service; a way of making sure nobody would see A-Rod at short and got any big ideas.

  29. Andrew August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    haiku-man, in fairness there is a big difference between facing Justin Verlander throwing 100 MPH aspirin in the 8th inning, as opposed to Ian Snell whose best days are when facing AAA competition.

    That said, the Yankees also have a much deeper lineup than the BoSawks which allows them to pound a guy like Snell even without Alex and George Posada. I think Rowland-Smith is a much better pitcher, so tonight will be more of a challenge, but at the same time the way this lineup is clicking, all skepticism has left my mind.

  30. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Fran- you are welcome :grin:
    Like I said- its the regulars who really like the game and look forward to it that keep me doing it

  31. m August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    I thought I read that this week, and here’s a blurb from April:

    As for the locker room layout, captain Derek Jeter still has two lockers, next to the exit at the back. Next to his area are the five pitchers in the team’s starting line-up: A.J. Burnett, Pettitte, Chien-Ming Wang, Chamberlain and C.C. Sabathia. On the other side of the exit, on the same end of the locker room, is catcher Jorge Posada, then third baseman Alex Rodriguez now sandwiched between Kevin Cash and pitcher Brian Bruney. (nj.com)

  32. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:23 am

    At this point, do you think A-Rod’s hip would allow him to play short?

    I was kind of expecting him to play ss in the late innings on Wednesday, but Girardi switched things up more

  33. NYY626 August 14th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    I was half asleep reading those “jeter is solid but not a HOFer” posts from Mr. Awesome last night. I was too tired and baffled to argue.

    Seriously?

  34. betsy August 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Erica, I would love to meet you as well. Maybe we can make plans to get together for an early dinner prior to the signing – whatever works for you. If not, I’d still love to meet you. I’m glad that the signing isn’t until later – I’ve used up most of my vacation days at work, lol.

    As to Jeter, wow – I feel so lucky to have had the privilege of watching him grow from a skinny young, talented SS to the HOFer in waiting. What I’m most proud of is his sterling reputation around the game. Remember what John Hirschbeck said after that game, the one where he was thrown out at 3rd (but was really safe …and the 3rd base ump decided to make his own rules)? He basically said that Jeter never argues – he’s the most respectful player he’s ever come across and so he was probably right about that play. That’s an amazing admission for an ump….and I know players around the league (even those who vote him as overrated) respect him for how he plays the game.

  35. Five Iron From Fenway August 14th, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Haiku
    The Yankees have a significantly better offense then Boston right now but come on:
    Verlander vs Snell.
    Besides Boston hits much, much, much better at home. They also sat Pedroia yesterday as well.

  36. Frank from Chatham, NJ August 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    I would have used an excel spreadsheet but I guess there are many ways to determine the winner!

  37. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    betsy
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
    Erica, I would love to meet you as well. Maybe we can make plans to get together for an early dinner prior to the signing – whatever works for you. If not, I’d still love to meet you. I’m glad that the signing isn’t until later – I’ve used up most of my vacation days at work, lol.
    ****

    I definitely couldn’t meet you before, but I would have dinner after or at the very least find you on line and keep you company. The mall is on my way home from work.

    Are you on facebook? Can you give me some hint so that I could try to locate you on there when I get home tonight

  38. betsy August 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    M, yep – lucky AJ, I guess. Last night was hilarious though because it was like Grand Central station. Jeter was being interviewed on YES, and the amount of people coming and going behind him was ridicululous, lol

  39. SJ44 August 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Arod hasn’t played short for 6 years and has a bad hip.

    Why would anybody think it “helps” the Yankees to play him at short?

    That ship sailed a long time.

    Given they are 29 games over .500, I think the powers that be with the Yankees have a pretty good feel for where guys will help them on the field and where they will not.

  40. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Frank from Chatham, NJ
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
    I would have used an excel spreadsheet but I guess there are many ways to determine the winner!

    ***
    Actual line up submissions are now an Excel spreadsheet (they started as post its and evolved). I copy and paste each submission into my Excel file (with name and time stamp) so there is far less human error. I take each line up as its submitted and copy it onto my sheet. Then as each line up is posted, I scroll through the file to see who else has posted the same one.

    Additionally, I keep a manual list on a pad of each name entered, so I can cross check myself to make sure I am not missing anything

  41. betsy August 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Erica, I’ve no clue how Facebook even works, lol. I’m like a Neanderthal when it comes to that kind of thing…..If you don’t mind, maybe Pete can give me your e-mail address..and we can keep in touch that way.

  42. haiku-man August 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Loved loved loved how CC SHUT DOWN Ichiro(lefty /lefty).
    Hope Andy has as great an outing.

    I find it funny,that all my friends(fans of different teams) couldn’t wait to slam the Yankees a few months back when the team wasn’t doing well.
    Have been MIA,to the point of me,wanting to put them on the side of a milk carton(have you seen me?)Haha

    ~So guys this next message is for them,(they do read this blog.)How do you like the Yankees now,chickens!~

  43. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    betsy
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
    Erica, I’ve no clue how Facebook even works, lol. I’m like a Neanderthal when it comes to that kind of thing…..If you don’t mind, maybe Pete can give me your e-mail address..and we can keep in touch that way.

    ****

    I am fine with that. Pete should have it. I actually e-mailed him last week directly to ask him if GTLU drove him nuts or if it was okay to keep doing it.

  44. Providence August 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am

    SJ44-
    Your points are all valid, but I believe mine is as well.

    At this point, you’re right- there would be no point in playing A Rod at short, however: he’s been here 6 years, he hasn’t always had a bad hip, and the Yankees weren’t always 29 games over .500.

    When a guy who is a pernnial All Star and future Hall of Famer at shortstop comes over to a team and doesn’t start a single game in 6 years there regardless of rest, injuries or days off for the incumbent, it’s at least ‘interesting,’ which is all I said.

  45. jennifer August 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    what signing? do tell.

  46. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Jennifer-

    Phil Hughes is doing an autograph signing at Steiner Sports in Roosevelt Field on 8/27

  47. SJ44 August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Shortstop is an entirely different position. Different arm slot to throw the ball to first, different positioning, different everything.

    Its not an interchangable position.

    There has never been a reason to move Arod to SS in the time he has been here. He’s also too big for the position now and wouldn’t have the range to play SS.

    Its never been feasible. Its something for folks to opine about but, that’s it.

  48. jennifer August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Erica thanks. Of course it is during the week. :-( So I have no shot at getting out there.

  49. haiku-man August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Noway I’m comparing Verlaner to Snell,(which is why I didn’t mention that comparison)I just loved BAWSTIN lost.Snell was 2-8 in the NL,obviously it was in the Yankees favor.

    Mitre should’ve been the pitcher if it were possible.

  50. NYY626 August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    I am fine with that. Pete should have it. I actually e-mailed him last week directly to ask him if GTLU drove him nuts or if it was okay to keep doing it
    ____________________________________________________________
    What did he say? I am curious on Pete’s take of the game
    ( I obviously like it!).

  51. Bill Porter August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Any fan who can’t appreciate what Jeter brings to the game, whether a Yankees fan or not, needs to ask themselves why they claim to be a baseball fan. Has anyone ever once seen him dog it, do anything but hustle and play hard and smart? Yankee fan or not how can you not appreciate that aspect of a player.

    Rich, plays for the Yankees, enjoys his life off the field? Absolutely yes. Over-rated? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Worthy of every fans esteem because of the way he has played and respected the game? How could he not be?

    I know he’s not the only guy around MLB who falls into that class but he’s our guy. I’ll say it again: “Everyday, I thank the good lord for making Derek Jeter a Yankee”.

  52. NO HYPE August 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    I am sure Pete loves GTLU because it drives up the hit count on the site which means more ad revenue

  53. Rose August 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Jeter=Winner

  54. Bill August 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    I’ll bet a majority of those missed games came in ’03 when he got hurt on Opening Night in Toronto.

  55. Yadda Yadda Yadda Molina August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Alex Rodriguez has played 8 innings of SS for the Yanks:

    http://www.baseball-reference......ield.shtml

  56. rover August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    DJ is one of the very few players in the game who could walk out of their clubhouse today and walk straight into the hall were that how it works.
    I feel so priviledged to have watched him play. We/most baseball fans of the NYY or not can’t imagine the game without DJ in it. Those who have an idea of the game anyway.

  57. Will August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    I don’t get that logic at all…if everyone knows Jeter is hurt, then why does it matter if he talks about it? Jeter is definitely tough, but isn’t also true that a team player would not put himself out there if it compromises the team? I am not saying Jeter does that, but lauded someone for pretending he isn’t hurt doesn’t really make sense. When Girardi does that, you slam him.

  58. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    NYY626
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am
    I am fine with that. Pete should have it. I actually e-mailed him last week directly to ask him if GTLU drove him nuts or if it was okay to keep doing it
    ____________________________________________________________
    What did he say? I am curious on Pete’s take of the game
    ( I obviously like it!).

    ***
    Pete thought the game was great and basicially said, whatever is fun for everyone is a good thing.

    And yes, No Hype is right. It certainly does increase traffic and posts. Lately, handles I don’t recognize are coming out of the woodwork to get in on it

  59. Bill August 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Also, after last year, it’s funny just how quickly sentiments change. All the problems with his fielding and his offensive production being down and suddenly many people were saying he was overrated, and now all the love is back. Where it belongs, I say.

    What a great season this has been so far.

  60. Yadda Yadda Yadda Molina August 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    before the yadda yadda yaddas come out, Alex did not start @SS for those games, so Pete’s list is accurate.

  61. Alan August 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Boston has a road record under .500 (27-31).
    Of their remaining games, they play 25 at home and 23 on the road. Even if they won all their home games (which they won’t), it wouldn’t be enough.

  62. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Alan
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
    Boston has a road record under .500 (27-31).
    Of their remaining games, they play 25 at home and 23 on the road. Even if they won all their home games (which they won’t), it wouldn’t be enough.
    ***

    Enough to make the playoffs or overtake 1st?

  63. Someone Else August 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    “Interesting how the name “Alex Rodriguez” did not appear on the above list even once. It seems the Yankees have studiously avoided starting him at short regardless of circumstance, even when it may have helped the lineup on a day when Jeter was out. I’ve always wondered if it’s an unspoken nod to Derek for his service; a way of making sure nobody would see A-Rod at short and got any big ideas.”

    As irrational as it is, I always wanted him to just get a couple games at short (more towards the beginning of his Yankees tenure, not really anymore, as there’s no way he could play it defensively) for one reason:

    Cal Ripken, Jr.: 345 HRs as a shortstop.
    Alex Rodriguez: 344 HRs as a shortstop.

  64. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am

    “Cal Ripken, Jr.: 345 HRs as a shortstop.
    Alex Rodriguez: 344 HRs as a shortstop.”

    I always thought A-Rod deserved a lot of credit for coming to the Yankees despite being one HR away from that record

  65. Jerkface August 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am

    but isn’t also true that a team player would not put himself out there if it compromises the team?

    This is the fallacy of the team player. Baseball players expect their teammates to tough it out through injury. No one wants to be the guy that sits on the DL/bench all season. Unfortunately there are injuries that players shouldn’t play through that they do anyways because of this.

    jeter plays through wrist and foot injuries all the time which saps his effectiveness for a while.

    its frustrating.

  66. RS August 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Since the Yankees are playing so well, I was wondering just how many matchups would make you NOT feel confident the Yankees were the favorites to pull out a victory?

    Even when we had to face Verlander, Beckett, and Halladay recently, the Yankees were at an advantage because they had good starting pitchers to match them, as well as a vastly superior offense. It’s been a long time since I really felt that the Yankees were an underdog going into a game.

    I think Mitre vs. Beckett at Fenway Park with Mo unavailable would make me cringe. But honestly, there’s very few instances where I’m not extremely confident the Yankees can win the game, and I think the team feels that way too. That confidence is a huge part of their success.

  67. jennifer August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    I only remember the July 4 game against the soxs.

  68. jpb1973 August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    I’m glad that the Yankees didn’t get Ian Snell before the trade deadline. There were a lot of folks who wanted to see him in Pinstripes based on his recent minor league pitching stint, but after wathcing him last night I think Cashman and the Yankee organization did better for us by getting Chad Gauguin.

  69. kd August 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    i have a question. if alex gets another off season hip surgery, will he be back in time for camp? will he be better than he is this year? can he play gold glove caliber defense again?

    should cash bring back jerry hairston next year?

  70. Five Iron From Fenway August 14th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Boston has a pretty tough schedule for the next month. They play the Rangers, White Sox, Yankees, Rays and Angels.
    Mid-Sept. will be very telling. If they are in vicinity of the playoffs then they have several easy (on paper) series. But, they have the potential to be several back by then.

  71. Five Iron From Fenway August 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    RS – the Angels (particularly in CA)scare me no matter who is on the mound.

  72. Cash is King August 14th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    “i have a question. if alex gets another off season hip surgery, will he be back in time for camp? will he be better than he is this year? can he play gold glove caliber defense again?

    should cash bring back jerry hairston next year?”

    Ask me again in November.

  73. Rishi August 14th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    6

    Last Week: 5
    Boston Red Sox
    Is it just me or do the Red Sox get into more brawls than anyone since the days of John L. Sullivan? In just the past few years alone, there’s been some serious throwdowns with the Yankees (more than once), Rays (more than once) and, earlier this year, the Angels. You can now add the Tigers to the Red Sox’s fight ledger, but at least the Red Sox are showing a little fight somewhere these days. They’ve already had three losing streaks in the second half — one of five games and another of six games — and will be in for a battle for the wild card as well as the AL East the rest of the way.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0OAqRY8E8

  74. Cash is King August 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    “Is it just me or do the Red Sox get into more brawls than anyone since the days of John L. Sullivan?”

    No, it’s not just you and I wonder why the MSM hasn’t picked up on it.

  75. Erica - always OPPC August 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  76. Yada Yada Yada Molina August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    I agree w/Erica, Alex doesn’t get enough credit for moving off the position in which he was virtually assured of going down as the greatest in the history of the sport.

    I also think he deserves immense credit for opting to have the two surgeries in order to help the team this year. Think about it, he’s likely playing in pain this season knowing all along an even more invasive surgery awaits in the off-season.

    Doesn’t Alex’s next hip surgery involve shaving the hip bone? No es bueno!

  77. jpb1973 August 14th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    i have a question. if alex gets another off season hip surgery, will he be back in time for camp? will he be better than he is this year? can he play gold glove caliber defense again?

    should cash bring back jerry hairston next year?

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    I don’t know the answer to any of the questions in your first paragraph, but I think the Yankees would be wise to bring back Jerry Hairston Jr. He seems to be more than adequate at all of the positions that I’ve seen him play and he’s no slouch at the plate. Plus…he’s a huge upgrade over Cody Ransom. I wouldn’t mind us having both Ramiro Pena and Jerry Haiston Jr on the team next year.

  78. MG August 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    jpb1973
    August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
    I’m glad that the Yankees didn’t get Ian Snell before the trade deadline. There were a lot of folks who wanted to see him in Pinstripes based on his recent minor league pitching stint, but after wathcing him last night I think Cashman and the Yankee organization did better for us by getting Chad Gauguin.
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    and, based on the spelling of Chad’s name, he paints pretty well also :)

  79. espresso August 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I fully expect the Yankees to spend some years in the short stop desert after Jeter moves or retires. It just isn’t easy to replace that kind of talent. As for the Red Sox, they have had to go through the same thing with replacing Nomar. Pharmaceutical help aside, he was an ELITE shortstop. That said they couldn’t make it work with Orlando Cabrera or Renteria.

    Watching the next closer is going to be brutal as well. There have been other closers in the league during Mo’s tenure who have shown flashes of his kind of dominance, but he just keeps doing it, while they fall away. We have been truly blessed as Yankees fans and fans of the game generally to see Jeter, Mo and Posada play. They will not be easy to replace.

  80. foiasdjf August 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    yes

  81. henner August 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    good stuff pete

  82. nettles August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Jeter is God.

  83. YankeeDiva August 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    ummmmm………..I thought the media hates when players lie to them? :D

  84. YankeeDiva August 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Jeter is God.

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    Let’s not get carried away…..no way Jeter is even close to being God….great baseball player? yes God? umm No!

  85. Jersey August 14th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    I thought you’d forgotten about Andy Cannizaro, but after looking it up, he never started a game for them at SS. He did play 11 games there, however.


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