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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 14, 2009 
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It’s August and for CC Sabathia, it’s winning time. He and the Yankees dominated the Mariners last night.
The Yankees retooled their bullpen early in the season and it has paid off.
Alex Rodriguez missed the game with a sore elbow. This notebook also has updates on Mariano Rivera, Jose Posada and a coming deadline for draft picks.
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My good buddy Mark Feinsand wrote a nice piece about attending an Islanders game with his son. Check it out.
It really is impressive that a bullpen considering horrible in the first month of this season became a major strength of the team
Erica, it’s hard to believe, isn’t it? That’s the beauty of the long season……….teams have a chance to right their ships and the best teams at the beginning of the season are not necessarily the best at the end of the season. The Yankees will have to rework their pen next year, too, as Phil will not be their to save their buns in the 8th inning.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
August 14th, 2009 at 8:35 am
“Erica – always OPPC
August 14th, 2009 at 8:09 am
I went to sleep last night around the 6th inning. Was there a reason Damon came out of the game for Hinske other than the Yanks had a lead and it was an opportunity for extra rest???”
Well I’m not a lip reader but I believe Damon said :
“If I have lost my biggest fan Erica to the sleep fairy, I might as well take off the ice skates and call it a day”
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That, I entirely believe.
Betsy-
That is exactly it. Thats why its so hilarious to me when fans panic the first week of April. There is so much more baseball to be played out and adjustments to be made.
NYY still the only teams with 70 wins or more (72)
Pete thanks for all the hard work now get some sleep brother! it’s only 5:45 am out there!
Islanders? Why would he torture his kid like that?
wow. i thought i was the only person from worcester who read this bog.
I think the Yankees can release Albaladejo & Ramirez at this point. I don’t see Bruney having a long term future with the team either.
I think that benching last year for not hustling has turned Cano around.
He is playing like a superstar. Defense has been stellar and offensively he is becoming a monster.
He stays under the radar because of all the other names, which is maybe good for him, but lets not forget the season he is having.
You keep Albaladejo and Ramirez in case someone gets hurt.
Last night was the perfect West Coast game: I could turn it off at midnight knowing the Yankees would almost certainly win – and if not, I didn’t want to see that anyway.
“That lineup is just stupid. They shouldn’t be allowed to have a lineup like that, but that is why their payroll is what it is.” Ian Snell
And that’s without Posada or Arod.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08.....ref=sports
Well, he’s kind of right.
Funny quote by Ian Snell. Prior to last night the Angels had scored the most runs in MLB. I don’t hear any complaints about their payroll \:)/
Trevor
August 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
“That lineup is just stupid. They shouldn’t be allowed to have a lineup like that, but that is why their payroll is what it is.” Ian Snell
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Snell is an idiot. If you aren’t good enough to face the Yankees (with A-Rod and Posada resting), you shouldn’t be in the major leagues. Then again, Snell felt so inadequate in PITTSBURGH that he requested to go down to Triple A.
And people think he could have actually made it as a Yankee.
Also, its one thing to tip your hat and just admit the line up defeated you, but don’t go bringing the payroll into this.
If the rotation next year has CC, AJ, the Jobber and Hyoooooooozzze, that’s four guys whose ERA’s are currently in the 3.5 to 3.8 range. And the youngsters should improve next year, even if just by becoming more experienced.
Currently there are three of those starters in the rotation plus Pettitte (4.1+) and a 5th starter of the du jour, and this team’s still on pace for 100+ wins. Not bad. It’s good to be a Yanks fan right now.
It’s too bad Wang’s not going to have much of a presence next year, even if he were able to make some kind of comeback later on. If we could only add the pre-injury Wang to that probable ’10 rotation, we have “we play today, we win today … das it!” all over again.
Ahhh … it’s still going to be good to be a Yanks fan.
Aw my smiley face didn’t work
I think some of you are overreacting to Snell’s comment. I get more of a humor vibe from it than anything else…
The rest of the quote said , “No team in the national league has a lineup like that.”
And in the ESPN wrap up it said “Ian Snell was more impressed by the yankee lineup” or something. I doubt he was railing against yankee payroll
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
August 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am
I think some of you are overreacting to Snell’s comment. I get more of a humor vibe from it than anything else…
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Not an overreaction. It won’t ruin my day or anything. But I genuinely think he is an idiot.
Rebecca, agreed. I find it hilarious that he finds our lineup stupid. As long as there’s no salary cap, there’s no justification to say anything about how fair a team is. Snell is also a headcase who has battled with depression, so these comments are coming from quite a mentally unstable person.
Know why the bullpen is better? Because the starting rotation has been phenomenal since A-Rod returned to the lineup.
If your starters are pitching deep into games your bullpen has less of an opportunity to be exposed.
Raymagnetic
August 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Know why the bullpen is better? Because the starting rotation has been phenomenal since A-Rod returned to the lineup.
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How do you figure A-Rod has boosted the starting rotation?
Have you ever wondered (not that I’m suggesting this happen,at all)Why Matsui and Damon are never drilled by any of the pitcher’s? Matsui and Damon are lethal weapons,that fly under the radar!
“Seattle third baseball Adrian Beltre will miss the series and perhaps the rest of the season after taking a bad-hop grounder in the groin on Wednesday night. It caused tearing and internal bleeding in one of his testicles and surgery may be needed.”
…wow…
“Not an overreaction. It won’t ruin my day or anything. But I genuinely think he is an idiot.”
Why is he an idiot, when he was complimenting how good of a lineup the Yankees have even without Arod and Posada?
Cash is King
August 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am
“Not an overreaction. It won’t ruin my day or anything. But I genuinely think he is an idiot.”
Why is he an idiot, when he was complimenting how good of a lineup the Yankees have even without Arod and Posada?
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Read my 9:24 post
Erica,
I didn’t say A-Rod boosted the rotation. I’m just saying that the point when the whole team turned it around.
The starters ERA has been great from that point on.
He’s using the term “stupid” as a compliment. That’s the way he talks.
As in, “their lineup is “stupid”, with “stupid” meaning good.
He wasn’t ripping the Yankees, he was praising them.
Rebecca, I don’t find payroll comments funny. The part about the lineup being stupid is funny, but I’m sick of people killing the Yankees for spending $$. At least they put their $$$ back into the team, unlike other fat cat owners who sit on their wallets. I’ll forget all about Ian Snell soon enough because he’s a forgettable pitcher………
Paging the Sense-of-Humor Fairy. Delivery required at Erica’s address.
SJ, if he’s praising us, I don’t think he would say, ‘they shouldn’t be allowed to have a team like that, but that is why their payroll is what it is’, he’s more jealous that he’s not a part of this team than anything else if you ask me.
I got what he meant by “stupid”, but the payroll thing turned me off…my guess is he would feel differently had he been traded to the Yankees.
Stupid: Stoo-pid. Adj. 1) When used as slang, means “beyond belief”, awesome, so good as to render the viewer momentarily stupid with awe.
I find the payroll comments hilarious.
Seattle isn’t exactly a poor team.
Snell never railed against the Yankees payroll. I don’t know where some of you are getting that from.
And Betsy you may forget about Ian Snell, but he’s never even heard of you.
The rotation doing better has helped, but also we have different pieces in the pen now……..no more Ramirez or Albaladejo, for one. Phil has locked the 8th down for this year, Robertson has stepped up and Bruney’s pitching better. I’m really not thrilled with Coke – IMO, he’s unreliable. He does a good job at times ,but he gives up way too many HRs. His ERA at this point is about 5 – that’s terrible.
Fire Bud Selig
August 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Paging the Sense-of-Humor Fairy. Delivery required at Erica’s address.
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I have a wonderful sense of humor. I don’t think he is funny. And I don’t think he was trying to be funny.
If Joba went out and made a post game comment like that I seriously doubt you would all be laughing at it. There would be 3,000 comments about how immature he is and how he is making excuses for lousy pitching, and what a terrible pitcher he is because he can’t face a line up with two of its biggest starts missing
Get over your collective payroll insecurity.
Wow, so who cares, Ray? What’s your point? The guy made a comment I don’t like and I’m commenting on it. If you don’t have a problem with it, fine….
Raymagnetic
August 14th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Snell never railed against the Yankees payroll. I don’t know where some of you are getting that from.
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Snell’s comments imply the Yankees payroll is so high because they are buying talent. Which is true. But its the same common criticism the Yankees always get about how they buy their stars
Some of you are WAY too sensitive to everything that’s said or written,.
I guess this is what happens when there is nothing to complain about with the team.
SJ44
August 14th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Some of you are WAY too sensitive to everything that’s said or written,.
I guess this is what happens when there is nothing to complain about with the team.
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I never complain about the Yankees. I complain about those who critize them. There is a HUGE difference.
So, your argument is that what he is saying is true but that still makes him an idiot.
Logic of a genius.
“Read my 9:24 post”
I’ve read your post and what he said doesn’t make him an idiot.
Marte could still be helpful, he’s pitching well in Scranton and could be another option against lefties.
No, SJ, some of us just have different opinions…..and what is wrong with that?
“I never complain about the Yankees. I complain about those who critize them. There is a HUGE difference.”
Which is quite funny in itself.
As Pete reported yesterday ,for some reason the Yankees are not overly enthused about bringing Marte up. Maybe they think, despite his decent #s in rehab, that he’s just not very good. I don’t know if that’s the case – I do think if he’s healthy, he can help us.
Cash is King
August 14th, 2009 at 9:51 am
“I never complain about the Yankees. I complain about those who critize them. There is a HUGE difference.”
Which is quite funny in itself.
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Umm- can you get off my back? You are really heavy
“No, SJ, some of us just have different opinions…..and what is wrong with that?”
No, Betsy, some of you take any type of criticism about your team or favorite player as a personal affront to you or at the very least, that’s the perception some of us get from your comments.
It’d be nice to get Melancon back up here, but nobody is worth sending down (that’s how good we are). I guess we’ll have to wait until rosters expand.
This entire thread just illustrates how well the playing group is performing. There is simply nothing else to whinge about.
“Umm- can you get off my back? You are really heavy”
Hey, if you don’t like others commenting about your posts then maybe you should think before posting them.
“No, Betsy, some of you take any type of criticism about your team or favorite player as a personal affront to you or at the very least, that’s the perception some of us get from your comments.”
Who cares? It’s no sweat off our backs that they get all worked up when Ian freaking Snell (who?) complains about payroll.
Cash is King
August 14th, 2009 at 9:54 am
“Umm- can you get off my back? You are really heavy”
Hey, if you don’t like others commenting about your posts then maybe you should think before posting them.
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I take no issue with you commenting on my posts. I do take issue when you post 5 different lines picking them apart word by word
And may I suggest if you don’t like what I say, just read past me
Cash, I’m not getting into an argument with you – you can ignore my posts if you like. That still has nothing to do with Ian Snell’s comments. It’s annoying that people have to criticize people for having another opinion as if the only right opinion is thinking Ian Snell said nothing wrong.
new thread
Last night Snell had me thinking that maybe Sergio Mitre’s not that bad after all.
Snell is a joke. He couldnt pitch successfully in the NL so its quite obvious that he will not be successful in the AL. Any GM who trades for or signs an NL pitcher who is not dominant in the NL is making a huge mistake. Its not even close
“Cash, I’m not getting into an argument with you – you can ignore my posts if you like. That still has nothing to do with Ian Snell’s comments. It’s annoying that people have to criticize people for having another opinion as if the only right opinion is thinking Ian Snell said nothing wrong.”
That’s what you and Erica don’t get, that this board is for discussion of conflicting opinions about the Yankees and baseball in general. If you can’t handle others that disagree with your opinion then perhaps you shouldn’t be posting on a public board where conflicting opinions are bound to happen and to be discussed by the participants.
Cash is King
August 14th, 2009 at 10:03 am
“Cash, I’m not getting into an argument with you – you can ignore my posts if you like. That still has nothing to do with Ian Snell’s comments. It’s annoying that people have to criticize people for having another opinion as if the only right opinion is thinking Ian Snell said nothing wrong.”
That’s what you and Erica don’t get, that this board is for discussion of conflicting opinions about the Yankees and baseball in general. If you can’t handle others that disagree with your opinion then perhaps you shouldn’t be posting on a public board where conflicting opinions are bound to happen and to be discussed by the participants.
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I have no problem with you not agreeing with me, but its the manner in which you post that comes off as overly critical and attackish. And since I am obviously not the only person who feels this way, maybe you need to improve your people skills
I am very much done with this conversation now
Ok, fine, Cash …we’re not even arguing about the same things. I don’t need to be told what a message board is for. I don’t like having my opinion invalidated because it’s not in the majority…..I’m fine with people having different opinions, but obviously others don’t feel the same way. Your issue with me seems to have to do with the quality of my posts. I don’t really intend to keep arguing with people who don’t like what I write……
TGIF?
“I have no problem with you not agreeing with me, but its the manner in which you post that comes off as overly critical and attackish. And since I am obviously not the only person who feels this way, maybe you need to improve your people skills
I am very much done with this conversation now”
It seems to me that both you and Betsy have problems with others disagreeing with your opinion and people openly disagreeing with said opinions.
SJ44
It’s not that people are overreacting to what’s said. I am sure if we heard him speak we’d all think he was joking around. It’s just that when you read the words without the voice it leaves a reader with a completely different meaning.
Sarcasm generally sounds mean spirited or whiny when put into print regardless of it’s intention when spoken.
“Ok, fine, Cash …we’re not even arguing about the same things. I don’t need to be told what a message board is for. I don’t like having my opinion invalidated because it’s not in the majority…..I’m fine with people having different opinions, but obviously others don’t feel the same way. Your issue with me seems to have to do with the quality of my posts. I don’t really intend to keep arguing with people who don’t like what I write……”
Betsy,
You don’t like your opinion being invalidated at all.
“SJ44
It’s not that people are overreacting to what’s said. I am sure if we heard him speak we’d all think he was joking around. It’s just that when you read the words without the voice it leaves a reader with a completely different meaning.
Sarcasm generally sounds mean spirited or whiny when put into print regardless of it’s intention when spoken.”
Excellent point!
Some of you people need to call off the attack dogs – didn’t you know Erica has been awarded the post of Lohud Yankees Blog Hall Monitor?
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
Hope you are “feeling” better about life and your MA. Any luck in breaking through?
Cheers.
Wow! And I haven’t even had my third cup of coffee yet. However, I did stop reading long enough to take a valium and some prosac.
Yankees still 6.5 games in up on the Bawstin Chowdah heads,after they won 3 straight at home.
Yankees rout SEA with no Arod,or Pasda.
CC in first inning pitches 11,in 2nd pitches 29.Looks like he’s going to throw a lot of pitches early.then goes 8 innings 105 pitches,great.
Yankees working as a fine tuned machine.
Fan base euphoric!