Game 117: Yankees at Mariners (with Marte update)
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YANKEES (73-43)
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Hairston LF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Pitching: RHP Sergio Mitre (1-1, 7.04).
MARINERS (60-56)
Suzuki RF
Gutierrez CF
Lopez 2B
Griffey Jr. DH
Branyan 1B
Hannahan 3B
Johnson C
Wilson SS
Langerhans LF
Pitching: LHP Luke French (1-0, 6.97).
TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m., YES.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees have won four straight, 11 of 12 and a ridiculous 35 of 46. They have taken the first two games of the four-game series against the Mariners.
HEADING FOR A RECORD: Derek Jeter has 2,670 hits as a shortstop. The Major League record of 2,673 is held by Hall of Famer Luis Aparicio.
SPEAKING OF GREAT YANKEES: Mariano Rivera has converted 30 straight saves, one shy of his career record et in 2005.
PITCHING, PITCHING, PITCHING: The Yankees have allowed six earned runs and struck out 27 in their last 29 innings. That’s a 1.86 ERA for you slow kids.
THE MITRE MATTER: The Yankees are somehow 3-2 in the games Mitre has started. He has allowed 38 hits (four of them homers) and six walks in 23 innings and committed three errors.
RUN, ROBBIE, RUN: Cano has a 12-game hit streak (22 of 53) that includes nine extra-base hits.
NO BULL: Yankee relievers have allowed one run in their last 16 innings.
BRUNEY’S BACK: Brian Bruney’s last four appearances: 5 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts.
MEASLY MARINERS: Seattle has scored five runs in the last 43 innings.
SUCCESS IN SEATTLE: The Yankees are 28-18 at Safeco Field. … They are 4-1 against Seattle this season.
That’s it’s for now. More to come later.
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: Damaso Marte’s 30-day injury rehab assignment ended yesterday. The Yankees today announced that he has been indefinitely excused from the team for “personal reasons.”
This comes 24 hours after Joe Girardi said that Marte wasn’t ready to pitch in the majors because of erratic velocity. The Yankees did not specify what those personal reasons were, but it seems likely those will serve to keep him off the roster.
UPDATE, 8;36 p.m.: A-Rod tried some swings in the cage and said he was recovered enough to play. “Good enough. We’ll strap it on,” he said.
He did say he had “some little neck stuff” a day after experiencing back spasms. But regardless, he’s playing third base and hitting cleanup.
UPDATE, 8:48 p.m.: Just checked with Brian Cashman, Marte remains on the 60-day DL.
UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: Gonzaga basketball coach Mark Few — who really knows his stuff — threw out the first pitch.
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: They play the Law & Order theme music when the umpires comes out.
UPDATE, 10:10 p.m.: We are underway at beautiful Safeco Field on a perfect night for baseball in the Northwest. Hope you enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 10:15 p.m.: Wow, they really hate A-Rod here. The earthy crunchy Seattle fans booing loudly and some throwing fake money in the air as he comes to the plate. Booing all through his at-bat, too.
UPDATE, 10:17 p.m.: Hold everything, its real money they were throwing. Some of it just fluttered into the press box. It has an advertisement stuck on it by emailbroadcast.com “Results so good even YOU can afford the Material Girl.” It says.
Funny.
UPDATE, 10:27 p.m.: No hometown scoring here in Seattle. Cano gets an error on a ball that would have bene called a hit in a lot of places, especially Florida.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: 13-game hit streak for Cano.
UPDATE, 10:42 p.m.: The Machine is cranked up again. Single, error, single, sac fly, two-run jack by Swisher. Yankees 4-1.
Swisher has hit 19 homers — 16 on the road — and 62 RBI.
Once again, they seriously traded Wilson Betemit to get this guy. Wilson Betemit.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Posada must be laughing, or crying. He drilled a bomb to the wall in center in the first inning then just hit a line drive right at the chest of the third baseman. He’s 0 for 2 and nobody on the team has hit it harder.
Meanwhile, Luke French isn’t long for this game. He has put eight men on base and we’re in the third inning.
UPDATE, 11:02 p.m.: The Yankees are up 4-1 on a team that has scored six runs in the last 43 innings. If Sergio Mitre can’t give them six innings tonight, he never will.
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: If I lived in Seattle, I’d get season tickets in right field just to see Ichiro play 81 times a year. That was a great catch. He does something fun to watch every day.
UPDATE, 11:50 p.m.: Melky Cabrera (6 for 47) really needs a day off. He has done admirable work since GGBG was injured. But he looks beat.
UPDATE, 12:05 a.m.: Mitre still has yet to go deeper than 5.2 innings in a start. He leaves a big mess for Dave Robertson to try and clean up.
UPDATE, 12:12 a.m.: Robertson got away with one there. That pitch was low but C.B. Bucknor punched out Langerhans to end the inning.
I’m telling you, he’s going to be around a while. He throws strikes.
UPDATE, 12:36 a.m.: Phil Coke did what he had to do there and fanned Griffey. Now he gets another lefty in Branyan.
Be interesting to see who pitches the eighth with a lead. Could be Aceves instead of Hughes, who threw 28 pitches last night.
UPDATE, 12:39 a.m.: I love Ichiro but that is a Dumb play. Notice the capital D. Whatever advantage gained there with two outs is hardly worth the risk.
Running on a 2-0 pitch? Branyan has 68 RBI, too. Bad baseball there.
UPDATE, 12:46 a.m.: Leaving Coke in. Nobody warming up, so apparently he has the inning.
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Sam Borden
Josh Thomson
“Robertson has a 3.24 era”
been following David Robertson, since we selected him from University of Alabama.
that said, how in the hell did his era get down to 3.24 ??
good for him. And very thankful Cashman never moved him. He dominated in the minors like few others. And now he is showing what he is.
“I don’t see the Yankees or anyone else having an interest in Milledge. Where did that come from”
don’t know. But right now, am willing to guess Brandon is sorry for ever bringing it up
: )
Derek Jeter has 2,670 hits as a shortstop.
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what a compiler!
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Girardi did say Hairston will get a start in CF either today or tomorrow, but I’ll assume that they save him for tomorrow.
August 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
“The Mets aren’t going to shut down the Johan. They still think they are in the race for the post season”
hilarious. But as of last week, also true.
according to WFAN last week, people in the Mets front office still believed they were in the NL wildcard race and believed they had a “10 game win streak” in them
Didn’t realize that Jeter is about to have more hits than any shortstop in history. If he keeps his defense on par with this year, he should get 3,000 hits as a shortstop.
here’s to hoping that this Mitre’s final start as a Yankee. if only my dreams could come true.
They still think they are in the race for the post season
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Baseball Prospectus gives them a 0.18934% chance of making the playoffs. Now, if they had a 0.18934% chance of blowing a playoff spot, I’d like their odds of achieving that.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
A Rod 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Hairston CF
Molina C
enjoy Mitre’s last start…
hope the Yanks can defy the odds and win again, anyway!
So Peter, are you ready to take back that “I told you so” you laid on me about Bruney about a month ago?
I said he just needed more work, you said he stunk (which he did at the time). He’s turned it around, yes?
Regards.
Mitre will redeem himself
you will see…
“Now, if they (the Mets) had a 0.18934% chance of blowing a playoff spot, I’d like their odds of achieving that”
you mean like the last 2 years ?
Against Mitre, lefties are hitting .500 with a 3.35 WHIP (25 hits, 4 walks in 8.2 innings)
The only solace to be found in anticipation of Mitre’s start is that the Mariners are starting a palooka, too.
But French’s ERA isn’t really 6+. He’d pitched better than that–in relief–with the Tigers earlier in the season.
I know it was shot down on an earlier thread, but why not take a flier on Billy Wagner if the Mets are giving him away?
He’s owed about $2 the rest of the way, plus a $1M buyout next year.
Ask the Mets to chip in half of the $3M (assuming he clears waivers) and it’s not horrible.
IMO Mike Dunn is better than Wagner….
” The Yankees are somehow 3-2 in the games Mitre has started.”
it’s the LIVAN EFFECT.
defensive players are so on their toes being ready for the rockets that will surely come that they are in hyper focus.
when added to how loose and warmed up they get from chasing baseballs put in play at a rapid pace, when they finally get up to bat they are ready to hit, hyper focus and all.
“IMO Mike Dunn is better than Wagner”
probably. The last time Wagner was spotted, he was impersonating Aruthur Rhodes
Anyone who is here that answered my question about Verizon –thank you!!!!!
I asked the question and quickly proceeded to get on to other things. But I just read the responses and greatly appreciate them. I feel better about what I am about to do.
Speaking of Livan.. anyone know if he cleared waivers?
Now there is a guy I would like to have. Would bethe perfect #5 starter. Throws strikes, works quick, eats innings, knows how to win, won’t tax the pen.
I don’t make comments like this very often, but I do truly hope this is the last we see of Mitre. Has he really made 5 starts? That alone seems hard to believe.
“Speaking of Livan.. anyone know if he cleared waivers?
Now there is a guy I would like to have. Would bethe perfect #5 starter. Throws strikes, works quick, eats innings, knows how to win, won’t tax the pen”
on the flip side…he has a 5.28 era in the nl east and citi field as his home park…he would get DEMOLISHED pitching in YS and the AL east…
For anyone interested.
Luke French came from the Tigers in the Washburn deal.
For the season he is 2-2 with a 4.31 ERA.
Wolf…I’m with you but I would rather see him then, dare I say it the K-Man, Kei Igawa.
Let’s hope that Mitre can go about five innings with 3-4 runs.
People have frequently said Aceves is of such central importance to the bull pen that he can’t be moved to the rotation. He was a central part of the bull pen’s resurgence and he can’t be moved.
So when was the last time Aceves made an appearance out of the pen?
When was the last time he got to show this tremendous reliever value?
It was 4 days ago when he was trying to pick up the pieces for Mitre.
He was great – but he hasn’t pitched since that appearance.
Right now Aceves – as often happens with relievers – has limited value to the yankees do to the confinement of his role.
He is essentially functioning as Mitre’s caddy.
This really doesn’t make much sense at all.
Mitre pitches higher leverage innings and does an awful job. Aceves then comes in to pitch better, but in lower leverage innings.
And then because he has to throw multiple innings he has to have several days off. In addition he’s not going to be used the day before Mitre pitches becuause, well of course, you got to keep him rested for the game Mitre throws.
Right now Aceves is of much, much less value to the team than he should be due to his role.
The Yankees are placing a much less talented player in Mitre in a much more important role and have reduced Aceves to a Mitre’s assisstant of sorts.
If Aceves is only going to pitch, more or less, every fifth day than keeping him in the pen really makes no sense.
Bronx Jeers
August 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
For anyone interested.
Luke French came from the Tigers in the Washburn deal.
For the season he is 2-2 with a 4.31 ERA.
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after tonight it will be over 8.00
I agree, Vader – no K-man. But I feel better with Gaudin than I do Mitre.
What a turnaround from the last few years though to be able to have a middling pitcher on the mound yet have an offense that can make up for it.
lol @ the phillies
Repost, just caught up:
What the heck happened to Johan, did he lose it?
I’m following on Gameday. It looks like he TRIED to hit Sandoval, but he got owned instead. And then he hits Benjie. But doesn’t get tossed?
Is there anything worse than Saturday 10 PM games?
A mets fan i know actually suggested austin jackson for livan
Dazz
August 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Is there anything worse than Saturday 10 PM games?
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saturday 11:00 games ??
“A mets fan i know actually suggested austin jackson for livan”
Tell him or her to start saying NO to drugs.
Bengi Molina homers off K-Rod in the 10th
Man K-Rod has fallen off a cliff since his fight with Bruney
Pay no attention to Mitre’s feeble pitching numbers.
It’s his Gold Glove work in the field that they’re banking on.
Gary Cohen mentioned it a few days ago… K-Rod has never pitched in meaningless games before. He might just be going through the motions (which is nice phrasing for quit).
“Bengi Molina homers off K-Rod in the 10th”
there goes the playoffs.
CB makes a very logical case for Ace going into the rotation. It’s hard to argue against it. Yet, Joe and Dave Eiland do just that.
I have to think that, as they are far more experienced in these matters, being baseball guys, and that they have far more current and inside information than I do, and that these are – I really think – very bright guys, they MUST have a solid reason for their continued reliance on Mitre. I have to think that they surely know they are wasting Ace’s talents in this way, and will not continue in this way.
Joe and Dave have the team in first place and a pitching staff that is pretty good. They must know something. I just wish I knew what that something is.
I met Nady and Nick Markakis last yr in Baltimore
lidge lost it for hammels & the pillies
Gary Cohen is a dope he is just making excuses for K-Rod. Where are the met fans that used to call wfan and say K-Rod was a better closer than Mariano
Mitre pitches 7 innings tonight and gives up 2 runs
CB,
That’s been my case for ending the charade and starting Aceves all along.
CB, I completely agree………so you have to ask why the Yankees don’t see it that way.
I agree, Aceves should be in the rotation……
“If Aceves is only going to pitch, more or less, every fifth day than keeping him in the pen really makes no sense.”
I agree if he is going to pitch once every 5 days than he belongs in the rotation and put Mitre in the bullpen to do mop up work. You can put Aceves back in the bullpen for the playoffs.
Joe from Long Island
August 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
CB makes a very logical case for Ace going into the rotation. It’s hard to argue against it. Yet, Joe and Dave Eiland do just that.
I have to think that, as they are far more experienced in these matters, being baseball guys, and that they have far more current and inside information than I do, and that these are – I really think – very bright guys, they MUST have a solid reason for their continued reliance on Mitre. I have to think that they surely know they are wasting Ace’s talents in this way, and will not continue in this way.
Joe and Dave have the team in first place and a pitching staff that is pretty good. They must know something. I just wish I knew what that something is.
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i dont think girardi trusts the pen enough
now that Bruney and Robertson are pitching better, it does make sense to put Aceves in rotation, it almost seems like they are getting ready to do that, the way they are using Aceves
The mets bull pen absolutely collapsed last year and that was a big reason why they choked in a historic way and missed the playoffs.
So they spent a lot of money to fix the pen.
But they confused the symptom with the cause and that’s so often done with relief pitchers.
The reason why their pen collapsed was because outside of Santana their starters weren’t good and didn’t give them length.
But instead of fixing that primary problem the mets decided to fix the “symptom.”
And that’s one of the fundamental reasons why relief pitchers signed to big money contracts systematically fail to deliver value.
They are signed as the solution to a fundamental problem their skill set can’t solve.
it is a pity the Buffalo Bills don’t go back to their old uniforms. They look like they’re wearing leg-warmers
Aceves should be in the rotation, but it may be getting late in the season.
Now if Joba was being taken out of the rotation entirely, then I would definitely advocate Ace to the rotation.
If mitre bombs today, then I’ll probably be on the Ace to the rotation movement again.
Dazz
August 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Speaking of Livan.. anyone know if he cleared waivers?
Now there is a guy I would like to have. Would bethe perfect #5 starter. Throws strikes, works quick, eats innings, knows how to win, won’t tax the pen.
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Again, can someone explain to me the concept of an “innings eater”?
Livan’s last start against Arizona: 4IP, 5ER
Before that against San Diego: 5IP, 7ER
In July, he averaged a little over 5 innings per start and had a 7.33 ERA. This in the NL. Good starts against Houston and Washington, CRUSHED by the Dodgers and Phillies.
How is this better than what we already have in Mitre?
Yankee fans won’t tolerate “innings eaters.” We want quality starts, even from our #5. That means 6 innings, 3ER. Livan can’t do that unless its against a weak NL team.
Yeah, you don’t want a crappy innings eater.
CB,
you are absolutely right, relief pitchers are best when they have clearly defined roles that they can prepare for…..that’s why Torre was so successful in the late 90s. He had starters that allowed him to clearly define the relief pitcher’s roles and he got the best of all the pitchers in the pen.
i think girardi feels he can pull mitre early & limit the damage by using ace,hughes,etc…
“Mitre pitches 7 innings tonight and gives up 2 runs”
I will go: 6 IP, 3 runs
K-Rod since the Brian Bruney fight -
6.34 ERA, 5 blown saves, 4 losses.
Mariano – 9th
Hughes – 8th
Bruney/Coke – 7th
Robertson/Gaudin/Mitre
That is a solid bullpen I guess they could bring back up Melancon and send down Mitre. Aceves will also pitch deeper into games as a starter Mitre kills the pen.
the funny thing is that Mitre’s 2 seamer really moves and if he had a change up and a curveball to go with it, he could be very successful
Hairston LF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Nice to see Girardi putting the “A” lineup out there with Mitre on the mound. Where the hell is A-Rod? Posada?
how is Melancon doing since he was sent down?
Carlton August 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Hairston LF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Nice to see Girardi putting the “A” lineup out there with Mitre on the mound. Where the hell is A-Rod? Posada?
A-Rod is at third. Posada is Dhin.
Seattle is the worst lineup in the AL, and 6 runs better than the worst offense in all of baseball.
If Mitre can’t have atleast a respectable start against these guys (5 innings, 4 runs), then he should just quit baseball….
Arod is batting 3rd…you might be missing Damon, but they are all supposed to be getting days off and I don’t really consider this “must win”
“Nice to see Girardi putting the “A” lineup out there with Mitre on the mound. Where the hell is A-Rod? Posada”
what lineup are you looking at?
Tonight should be fun……
The thing that makes sense in starting Mitre is that Ace can limit the early damage and we can hit our way back into the game. If Ace falters as a starter then bringing in Mitre would be like pouring gas on the fire.
Bottom line is we need another quality starter and with Ace in the pen we are much deeper.If Mitre gives us 5-6 quality innings then we are way ahead of the game.
Arod is playing third and Posada is DH’ing.
Try reading the lineup the next time it will save you time and aggrevation.
PeteAbe: Sergio Mitre watching Bev. Hills Cop II to prepare for his start.
I don’t think we’re going to see Alex until Oakland…..that’s my best guess and I’m fine with it (as long as he’s ok).
Cashman and co. are just trying to get to September. Once the roster expand, it gives them much more flexibility. They can bring up Albaladejo, Melancon, Towers etc. as reserves for the #5 spot and can have much shorter leashes on guys.
They don’t want to take Aceves out of the pen because he is still our 3rd most reliable reliever.
LOL oops…………well, I’m sure glad to see him back. I wonder when Jeter will get a rest…..
Betsy
August 15th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I don’t think we’re going to see Alex until Oakland…..that’s my best guess and I’m fine with it (as long as he’s ok).
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Alex is playing tonight
They need to rest Melky.
i also think girardi believes we can come back & win after pulling mitre but it is consuming 2 pitchers every 5 days as cb pointed out
Hairston is playing too much I hope Girardi wants to give Damon a day off and not just sit him because its a lefty. I rather have Damon at the plate than Hairston doesnt matter who is pitching.
Vinny, are you watching the Bills game? I’m a huge Bears fan…….how are you watching it ? ON the NFL network?
“LOL oops…………well, I’m sure glad to see him back. I wonder when Jeter will get a rest…..”
On Thursday!:)
the funny thing is that Mitre’s 2 seamer really moves and if he had a change up and a curveball to go with it, he could be very successful
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He has both those pitches!
“The thing that makes sense in starting Mitre is that Ace can limit the early damage and we can hit our way back into the game. If Ace falters as a starter then bringing in Mitre would be like pouring gas on the fire.”
This is exactly the wrong way of looking at it how to best use pitchers.
By this method Mitre pitches higher leverage innings and Aceves is purely his caddy.
Here’s a novel idea – use Aceves at the beginning of the game so that you minimize the probability of there being a fire in the first place.
Why dig your team in a whole in hole to start out with?
Prevent the problem rather than waiting for the problem to form in the first place.
CB, I hadn’t thought about Aceves at all. That’s a no-brainer, IMO. He definitely should be stretched out for the rotation now that Bruney seems to have gotten his act back together.
Dump Mitre, bring Melancon back up.
CB, I hadn’t thought about Aceves at all. That’s a no-brainer, IMO. He definitely should be stretched out for the rotation now that Bruney seems to have gotten his act back together.
Dump Mitre, bring Melancon back up.
the funny thing is that Mitre’s 2 seamer really moves and if he had a change up and a curveball to go with it, he could be very successful
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He has both those pitches!
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I should have said, effective curveball and change ups
The Yankees are 30 games over, and basically 8.5 games up on a playoff spot. Petite is dealing, and Joba has some limits coming up.
That’s why Mitre is still starting. That’s why Gaudin is probably going to get some starts. If they fail, call up a AAA arm. Big picture, it’s not going to matter. Start Joe Blow, the Yankees will still win half those starts.
“Vinny, are you watching the Bills game? I’m a huge Bears fan…….how are you watching it ? ON the NFL network”
betsy:
yes. NFL Network. They are showing every game this preseason (either Live/taped) Love this network.
btw, Cutler does not look good. : )
LOL Do we have a day off on Thursday? Oops, we must – travel day. Ok, that will suffice – and as hot as he is, I guess I’m not interested in removing him from the lineup.
Oops – sorry about the double post. I’m a little wired after scoring a 2009 Mo road jersey on eBay for $29.99.
Vinny, I really hope you’re kiddin, lol. I was just about to go on my Bears message board……if you’re not, I just KNOW the fans are going to be freaking out.
Carlton
August 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Hairston LF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Nice to see Girardi putting the “A” lineup out there with Mitre on the mound.
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We certainly need the “A” lineup in there against the terrifying Luke French.
We’ve only won 4 straight and 10 of 11.
Why choose NOW to rest Damon and Matsui and try to keep the team fresh, rested and healthy? It’s LUKE FRENCH. Girardi is out of his mind.
Damon is Shomer Shabbas tonight.
Matsui, once again pulled with a lefty pitching.
When is Girardi going to realize that Matsui actually hits pretty well with a lefty on the mound?
Betsy:
not really. However, it is the first preseason game. Doesn’t matter.
the team which should be worrying, is the one which has Kyle Orton at quarterback. I understand his performance was abysmal yesterday. And they are now talking about Cris Simms in Denver.
How about that stat Singleton threw out there last night:
only three times in the last 45 years have the Yanks had a better record at this point in the season than this year.
Nice.
Rob B August 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Matsui, once again pulled with a lefty pitching.
When is Girardi going to realize that Matsui actually hits pretty well with a lefty on the mound?
I know! He couldn’t have picked a worse time to rest Matsui. I mean we need him now!
“We certainly need the “A” lineup in there against the terrifying Luke French.
We’ve only won 4 straight and 10 of 11.
Why choose NOW to rest Damon and Matsui and try to keep the team fresh, rested and healthy? It’s LUKE FRENCH. Girardi is out of his mind.”
Which is why it’s strange to DH Posada. If he’s going to play, put him behind the plate. If he isn’t catching, why can’t he get the full day off and be available if something were to happen to Molina, or they need to pinch run for him at some point? This way, it really limits their options. Matsui should be DH tonight. Why does a full-time DH need a day off all the time?
The mets bull pen absolutely collapsed last year and that was a big reason why they choked in a historic way and missed the playoffs.
So they spent a lot of money to fix the pen.
But they confused the symptom with the cause and that’s so often done with relief pitchers.
The reason why their pen collapsed was because outside of Santana their starters weren’t good and didn’t give them length.
But instead of fixing that primary problem the mets decided to fix the “symptom.”
And that’s one of the fundamental reasons why relief pitchers signed to big money contracts systematically fail to deliver value.
They are signed as the solution to a fundamental problem their skill set can’t solve.
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This is one of the best posts in the history of this board. The Yankees had a similar issue this spring. That is, early on the Yankees bullpen problems were caused by a failure of the starters to give them any length at all. Chien Mieng Wang was only able to go about 2 innings for each of his first 4 starts…that taxed the bullpen to the breaking point. In our case injuries to Bruney and Marte didn’t help our situation but I think we could have made it through the first month better if the starters had given us more length.
Thankfully for us, the starting pitching has stepped up and there is less stress on the bullpen now.
Matsui, once again pulled with a lefty pitching.
When is Girardi going to realize that Matsui actually hits pretty well with a lefty on the mound?
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Matsui wasn’t pulled, he is just the first guy to the bench when we use the DH to rest someone
Wolf,
If it’s coming from Hong Kong or China, don’t expect much.
Did you watch Matsui run last night? He could barely get down the line. He looked like Bernie, one of the guys at my bagel place who just had knee replacement surgery. It wasn’t pretty.
In case you haven’t realized it, they are 30 games over .500.
I think the manager has a better feel for his team than you do.
The idea is to not burn these guys out in August.
The last time they gave Matsui time off to rest his knees, he came back red hot.
I know its hard for some to resist whining about the lineup.
However, think a little bit and you will realize every day they can rest the older players is the fresher they will be for the rest of the year.
Its the benefit of having a big lead at this stage of the year.
“Matsui wasn’t pulled, he is just the first guy to the bench when we use the DH to rest someone”
Except the person being rested is Posada. If he later needs to catch in this game, the DH will be lost. Is his bat really that much better than Matsui’s, even if it is against a left? I say rest Posada completely, unless they need him as a pinch hitter later in the game.
Except the person being rested is Posada.
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Its double rest then, for Matsui and Posada. Posada gets to not crouch behind the plate. Matsui gets to not blow out his knees.
“Which is why it’s strange to DH Posada. If he’s going to play, put him behind the plate. If he isn’t catching, why can’t he get the full day off and be available if something were to happen to Molina, or they need to pinch run for him at some point? This way, it really limits their options. Matsui should be DH tonight. Why does a full-time DH need a day off all the time?”
You should stick to being a Yankee fan and stop trying to manage from home which players should play on a given night especially considering you don’t know the daily physical condition of any player on a given day. Who’s to say that Matsui’s knees are barking today or that Damon’s shoulder isn’t up to snuff. We already know that Girardi doesn’t tell the media every day which player might be nicked up a little and needs a blow.
“I know its hard for some to resist whining about the lineup”
“In case you haven’t realized it, they are 30 games over .500″
may God bless you SJ44. And i mean this
: )
Rob B
August 15th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Except the person being rested is Posada. If he later needs to catch in this game, the DH will be lost. Is his bat really that much better than Matsui’s, even if it is against a left? I say rest Posada completely, unless they need him as a pinch hitter later in the game.
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If the DH is lost, then we have a few guys by the name of Damon, Hinske, Matsui, and Pena that can pinch hit in the pitcher’s spot.
Personally, I’d like to see CC take a hack.
I spent a semester at Canisius College in Buffalo (one semester in Buffalo is more than enough). I took a biology class, and my lab partner was a Buffalo Jill.
Suffice it to say I never missed lab.
Rob B
Who cares if the DH is lost. We have a decent enough bench to get by without a DH.
“Damon is Shomer Shabbas”
I don’t roll on shabbos!
the funny thing is that Mitre’s 2 seamer really moves and if he had a change up and a curveball to go with it, he could be very successful
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He has both those pitches!
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Mitre’s slider, this year, has been mediocre…at best. But, considering he’s only 13 months removed from Tommy John surgery, I think thats OK. For him, his future success in MLB will depend on improving that slider next spring. His elbow currently isn’t strong enough to throw a good slider…but it should be stronger next year. If he’s able to improve his slider, it will help him resume his acreer as a major league starting pitcher…if not then he will be out of baseball by this time next year.
Anyone with insider access post what Buster Olney said about the yankees?
http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....ney_buster
I supposed I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but you have to be some kind of dope to whine about the lineup of a team that is 30 games over .500 and has won 35 of its last 46. Let’s assume for a second Joe Girardi knows more about his team that you do. Just maybe.
Vinny, I went to the boards to check it out and you’re right – looks like Cutler struggled some. Still, maybe he was nervous as this was his first game – he’s going to be fine. I’ve got high hopes for the Bears this season, so the rest of the game will be interesting just to see how some of their unprovens have come along.
Kyle Orton just isn’t that good – I don’t know much about football in comparison to baseball, but he’s more of a backup or a starter on a bad team. I can’t see him leading any team to and through the playoffs.
If he’s able to improve his slider, it will help him resume his acreer as a major league starting pitcher…if not then he will be out of baseball by this time next year.
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Dude, there is no way Sergio Mitre is out of baseball by this time next year. If Sidney Ponson and Bruce Chen aren’t out of baseball, Sergio still has time to go.
I find it hard to believe that Matsui is in danger of blowing out his knees due to having 3-4 ABs a night. I really think this is just a matter of Girardi doing the “matchup by the book” thing, and ignoring the fact that Matsui has a .955 OPS vs. lefties.
But I will concede that I don’t know all the details and that maybe Matsui really does need the rest.
But, SJ, to be honest, Matsui has looked like he could barely get down the line all year. He never really has run out grounders at full speed this season; except for the rare occasion he thinks he can beat out a DP.
Bronx Jeers – no, this one is cool. I just got home jerseys for ARod and Joba in the mail today and I’m fine with them. 2008 for Alex with the stadium and allstar game patches, and 20098 for Joba with the inaugural season patch.
I know what you’re saying though – I did see a site advertised online that had “deals” on jerseys which I found out later was a chinese scam site. Nothing ordered from them and I warned several friends about the site.
Girardi is doing a good job of rotating and resting players. Stop complaining.
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Met David Wright hit in the head by a Cain 94mph fastball, suffered a concussion. Mets are cursed this year.
“I supposed I shouldn’t be surprised at this point, but you have to be some kind of dope to whine about the lineup of a team that is 30 games over .500 and has won 35 of its last 46. Let’s assume for a second Joe Girardi knows more about his team that you do. Just maybe.”
No kidding and something that needed to be said because fans should stick to what they actually know instead of trying to act like they’re plugged into the Yankees training room on a daily basis.
“Again, can someone explain to me the concept of an “innings eater”?”
I think the LoHud definition is: a bad pitcher who is also fat.
here’s the non-freebie stuff:
Johnny Damon: There has been a running debate about whether Damon was worth the four-year, $52 million investment by the Yankees, and as his deal nears its completion, that debate is over — he’s been a terrific player for the Yankees, scoring almost 400 runs in four years, tailoring his swing this season to fit new Yankee Stadium.
The Yankees want him back, and he could become the team’s next version of David Cone; going forward, he might be offered above-market one-year contracts rather than a two- or three-year deal.
• Mark Teixeira: He has been everything the Yankees hoped for in how he has augmented the lineup and how he has helped the defense and how he has handled himself with the media. And because the Yankees have him and the Red Sox don’t, it might take Boston several years (and many prospects and dollars) to make up for what the Red Sox could have had if they had won the bidding.
• CC Sabathia: A lot of pitchers — a lot — have struggled to meet the expectations that come with being a high-priced hired gun in New York. But Sabathia is having a solid season, and he’s getting better, consistently pitching deep into games.
• Joe Girardi: He had a shaky first year as manager, and the practical realities of New York meant that he probably came into this year in jeopardy of losing his job; you cannot fail to make the playoffs two years in a row if you are the manager of the Yankees without at least falling into double-secret probation. But Girardi has adjusted and adapted the same way Tom Coughlin did as head coach of the Giants, easing up in his dealing with the players, and the Yankees have responded.
• Brian Cashman: The Yankees’ general manager was the target of enormous criticism after Johan Santana had a strong first season with the Mets, and he signed on for another three-year deal last fall determined to change the history he saw being written about the team’s recent decline. His rationale for not making the Santana deal has been borne out this year — he wanted to pursue Sabathia and to keep young players like Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson, rather than trade the youngsters and then have to pay Santana — and the Yankees’ successful pursuit of Teixeira has been pivotal.
“Anyone with insider access post what Buster Olney said about the yankees?”
He basically said he was an idiot picking the Yankees not making the playoffs and he did so for all the wrong reasons.
I think the best thing for David Wright would be for the Mets to trade him. He’s too good a ballplayer and too good a person to be trapped there. I just hope it isn’t Boston, because I think he would blossom there, playing in Fenway.
But, for his sake, he needs to get off that team.
Pete,
That’s what kills me! lol
They are 35-11 in their last 46 games. Let that sink in for a moment.
They have a 6 1/2 game lead in the race. This is the PERFECT time to get guys rest.
Matsui could barely run last night. So give him a rest for a day or two and keep him fresh. Same with Arod, Damon, etc.
Let the teams chasing the Yankees continue to play their regulars everyday. The Yankees have the luxury right now not to have to do it and still are playing great baseball.
Every game is not must win or armeggedon.
This is only the third time in the HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE, the Yankees have been 30 games over .500 on August 15.
That makes it really, really dumb to whine about Girardi’s lineups.
“Kyle Orton just isn’t that good – I don’t know much about football in comparison to baseball, but he’s more of a backup or a starter on a bad team. I can’t see him leading any team to and through the playoffs”
betsy:
you’re right. I really don’t know why Denver’s teenage head coach had an affinity for Kyle Orton. They may have been able to make a Cutler for Romo+picks, trade. Or maybe one of Clevelands QB’s. But Kyle Orton ???
Most of the lineup complaints were facetious, right?
Joe from Long Island
August 15th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I think the best thing for David Wright would be for the Mets to trade him. He’s too good a ballplayer and too good a person to be trapped there. I just hope it isn’t Boston, because I think he would blossom there, playing in Fenway.
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I think Boston’s fairly stocked up on corner infielders. Can Wright play SS? Then be afraid.
If he’s able to improve his slider, it will help him resume his acreer as a major league starting pitcher…if not then he will be out of baseball by this time next year.
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Dude, there is no way Sergio Mitre is out of baseball by this time next year. If Sidney Ponson and Bruce Chen aren’t out of baseball, Sergio still has time to go.
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The economy is going to be even tougher on veteran major leaguers next year than it was this year. For many owners, first year players at $400,000 are a whole lot more valuable than veterans who can’t perform.
In Mitre’s case, I hope that he can improve next season and have a good career. He really needs a pitch to get in on the hands of left hand hitters…without a slider (or sharp curve) he’ll struggle.
“This comes 24 hours after Joe Girardi said that Marte wasn’t ready to pitch in the majors because of erratic velocity. The Yankees did not specify what those personal reasons were, but it’s likely those will serve to keep him off the roster.”
Yeah, I know. I’m about to get 40 million posts ripping on me for saying this. But I’ll say it anyway.
Marte deal not looing too hot right now.
I’m biased, of course, but I’m surprised Buster didn’t mention AJ. He’s been solid for us and, without his contributions, the pitching would have been on seriously shaky ground. Actually, it was on shaky ground for awhile. He’s given us innings this year, very important obviously and he’s stayed healthy.
Eh, Buster didn’t have to write this article as he wasn’t the only one who didn’t like the Yankees – nice piece, though.
Nick in SF in Larkspur
August 15th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I think the LoHud definition is: a bad pitcher who is also fat.
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Ahhhh, now I get it. Let’s get us some of those. Then we will be unstoppable.
If they were serious complaints, it would be like Jeter complaining about how hard it is for him to pick up chicks.
The economy is going to be even tougher on veteran major leaguers next year than it was this year. For many owners, first year players at $400,000 are a whole lot more valuable than veterans who can’t perform.
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Veterans can sign for the league minimum if they want. This is silly, stop. GUys who can throw 5 innings and give up 4 runs still have value to a major league team.
Interesting about the Marte update. Paper move to prevent another roster move before September 1st or are the Yankees and Marte at the crossroad regarding his shoulder?
“I think the best thing for David Wright would be for the Mets to trade him. He’s too good a ballplayer and too good a person to be trapped there. I just hope it isn’t Boston, because I think he would blossom there, playing in Fenway”
the Mets have no incentive to trade David Wright. He is their poster boy. For better and for worse
Vinny, all I know is that I was shocked one day when I heard Cutler was traded to the Bears……similar to when I turned on the radio and heard that Tex had signed with the Yankees, lol……
Bears and QBs don’t go together………I can tell you that Bears fans are going to jump overboard. They were looking forward to tonight and Cutler’s so/so performance is bound to have disappointed them (even though they know intellectually that it is just a pre-season game).
“Marte deal not looing too hot right now.”
Nothing like stating the obvious.
YankeesWFAN: Damaso Marte has been excused from SWB Yanks for personal reasons. Not a physical issue. Decision on his rehab after this is resolved.
yada yada yada – now wearing a cup 24/7
August 15th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
If they were serious complaints, it would be like Jeter complaining about how hard it is for him to pick up chicks.
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See how easy you think it is with Minka Kelly stuck to YOUR side all the time. Talk about a nuisance.
Personal reasons?
Well, in any case, forget about Marte for this season. I don’t understand how tendonitis can linger for so long and have such a lasting effect………
Is it true that Jay Cutler is looking for Eli Manning type money? If so, that’s just nuts.
Girardi knows what he is doing with his starters and the BP arms. There is a reason why Yanks have the best record in all of baseball with Girardi at the help.
So much for the arm chair pundits here whining about his use of the pitchers. Many of these whiners here wanted to banish Bruney. Girardi stuck with him and see what is happening.
Girardi shows loyalty to his players and in the long run (within the season) he has always been rewarded by them.
didn’t realize you had already posted, Pete…
You don’t give up on pitchers like Bruney who can throw 95+ that’s why the Yanks stuck with Veras for so long
“Bears and QBs don’t go together………”
you definitely right. The lone exceptions being 4 seasons of Jim McMahon, 1 season of Erik Kramer, and QB’s who played with leather football helmets
The economy is going to be even tougher on veteran major leaguers next year than it was this year. For many owners, first year players at $400,000 are a whole lot more valuable than veterans who can’t perform.
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Veterans can sign for the league minimum if they want. This is silly, stop. GUys who can throw 5 innings and give up 4 runs still have value to a major league team.
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Do you think Bruce Chen and Sidney Ponson are going to settle for $400,000 per year. No way…they’d rather sit on a beach in Arruba and soak up the sun.
One thing thats valuable about youngsters in a bad economy…you can send them down to the minors without DFA’g them. Chen and Ponson…and Mitre aren’t going to put up with that. Where is Brett Tomko pitching these days?
Speaking about Bruce Chen: According to Sports Illustrated, he went 1,404 days between wins (Oct. 2,2005 through last Thursday).
I think Yanks are really giving a cold shoulder to Marte.
They did not like what did or did not do in the beginning of the season. They did not like him going to WBC after that contract and then not informing about the injury. Very rarely you see a player spending all the rehab time (one month)riding the minor league buses. They made him do that.
Now this personal reason stuff. I think, I may be totally wrong, that he is not going to the majors at the cost of another BP arm going to minor league and this is the best option they could come up with. I will not be surprised if in the first week of Spetember he shows up in the majors.
Wolf,
It does feel great when you score on EBay huh?
I got an authentic home ARod last year at 20% retail.
I also got an away Mariano with all the patches but when it came it wasn’t very good.
The gray material is a little “shiny” . Like it’s for a football jersey. The “NEW YORK ” is also a bit “weird”.
And I could have lived with both of those issues but unfortunately the sizing was way off and it’s too small.
LOL Vinny………..Cutler will be terrific, but it’s funny seeing fans go into panic mode after a quarter or so of play. I can absolutely guarantee that he will throw at least 1 interception this year…….
LOL Vinny………..Cutler will be terrific, but it’s funny seeing fans go into panic mode after a quarter or so of play. I can absolutely guarantee that he will throw at least 1 interception this year…….
“Girardi shows loyalty to his players and in the long run (within the season) he has always been rewarded by them.”
That’s true, none of them punched Girardi before going to Scranton.
“I think Yanks are really giving a cold shoulder to Marte.
They did not like what did or did not do in the beginning of the season. They did not like him going to WBC after that contract and then not informing about the injury. Very rarely you see a player spending all the rehab time (one month)riding the minor league buses. They made him do that.
Now this personal reason stuff. I think, I may be totally wrong, that he is not going to the majors at the cost of another BP arm going to minor league and this is the best option they could come up with. I will not be surprised if in the first week of Spetember he shows up in the majors.”
I’m not so sure you’re far off from the truth. Come September 1st, we’ll find out if Marte is ready for ML hitting or not.
Marte will be of no help for the rest of the year. Unless Cashman does a waiver deal, Phil Coke is the lone bullpen lefty through the playoffs unless somebody like Michael Dunn shines in September and can be used as an injury replacement.
Do you think Bruce Chen and Sidney Ponson are going to settle for $400,000 per year. No way…they’d rather sit on a beach in Arruba and soak up the sun.
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If they want to play baseball yes. IF you want to change your statement to “Mitre will be out of baseball in a year because he wants to go to the beach instead”, then I would have less of an argument. But Mitre will not be out of baseball due to teams not wanting him.
Mitre has already had the TJ and the PED-suspension, the baseball part should be cake! I think he’s going to make it after all.
Derek Jeter – SS – NYY
Dominator at his position!
Nobody is close…year in and year out…
The best of his generation by far…
Incredible career that will not be fully appreciated till he retires.
A living legend…take your kid to see him play so that he can tell his great grandchildren that he got to see Derek Jeter play baseball for the New York Yankees!
Is anyone else sick of these late night starts? At least tomorrow is a 4pm start but since they are going to Oakland next, i bet all of the games are at 10pm once again.
If the Mets trade David Wright…they should take the franchise away from the Wilpon Family in order to maintain integrity of the game.
christina-all Oakland games will be at 10.
“In Mitre’s case, I hope that he can improve next season and have a good career. He really needs a pitch to get in on the hands of left hand hitters…without a slider (or sharp curve) he’ll struggle.”
On a different ballclub, perchance?
CC, AJ, Joba, Hughes, Nova/McAllister/Kennedy/?
thanks benfica, thats a huge bummer.
Boy, I wish I had reported that. Rishi, do you even read what I write?
Yes, it does feel good to cosre on EBay, Bronx Jeers!
That sucks about your Mo jersey. If mine comes in as good as i’m expecting it to, I’ll have to link you up with the seller on eBay, because I believe they have more of them.
cosre = score. Duh.
Hey Pete – did you read my following post saying I missed your update…trust me – in no way shape or form trying to post duplicate infor, just sharing what I’m reading elsewhere…
“In Mitre’s case, I hope that he can improve next season and have a good career. He really needs a pitch to get in on the hands of left hand hitters…without a slider (or sharp curve) he’ll struggle.”
On a different ballclub, perchance?
CC, AJ, Joba, Hughes, Nova/McAllister/Kennedy/?
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Yeah, you’re probably right. If Mitre can develop a pitch to stymie lefthand hitters he probably will be able to make it with another team. If he doesn’t, he won’t be in baseball long. Lefthanders are hitting close to .500 aaginst him…yikes.
It’s a miracle Texas is even in the discussion for the Wild Card.
They are batting David Murphy in the 3 spot and have Marlon Byrd batting cleanup.
Byrd just swung at three pitches completely out of the zone against Penny.
Yes, they’ve got great talent coming up through the farm. But it’s hard to see them being able to make the postseason given their roster construction.
I was at the game in Atlanta where the machine-like 35-11 run began. I am taking credit because I’m a good luck charm.
On a serious note, I have a question. Is there a limit to the number of minor league affiliates a MLB team can have?
Rishi:
No offense taken. But if I have the information, there’s no reason to say somebody else had it. If by some chance I miss something, fine. But read what I post before assuming I don’t have it. That doesn’t seem like too much to ask.
Good stuff on your blog, Christina. I especially liked this:
“When I questioned Arroyo’s ERA, Mike responded by saying “You can’t look at his ERA. He has had a few games where he loses his head and gave up like 10 ER’s.”
Sounds like just the kind of guy you want on your staff — someone who could at any time ‘lose his head’ and give up big innings. I’m sure he’d do well in a pressure cooker like Fenway…you really just can’t reason w/Francesa.
Pete – Didn’t even think of it as saying you missed something – I just figure twitter updates are faster than posting updates. You had it way before the “twitterers”…
Penny threw 26 pitches in the first inning.
Kinsler homers 1-0 Texas.
from last night’s game thread….
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compassrosy August 15th, 2009 at 1:32 am
On the train home…
Congrats on the win yank fans. At least it was a little more competitive tonight. If the mariners had their regulars on the left side of the infield things might have been different oh well, nice outing for Hyphen – good to see.
Same bat time, same bat channel tomorrow.
from the previous thread….
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CompassRosy August 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
“The sculpture above is made up of hundreds of bats.”
There are actually one thousand – for, what else?
Battting 1.000
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“The only gripe I have against it are the excessive rules and policies in place- no cursing in the stands, taunting players, can’t smoke anywhere…”
Ironically, some of the reasons I like it so much
Well that and the great view of Elliot Bay (especially at sunset) from the 3rd level concourse.
My only gripe is that the video screen is so small – they need less ads, more screen. I think the AAA field in Tacoma has a better screen than Safeco.
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Well, speaking of Safeco Field … time to head there now.
After the debacle that was the first game of the series, I was merely hoping for my team to be a bit more competitive. They did that through 8 innings last night. Baby steps …
Trisha, I’ll be calling you
When did Bruney a guy who has only pitched 4 good innings since April is more of a reliever then Marte who once was a closer.
Just like Veras and Edwar Ramirez bruney is just another reliever who can’t pitch one full year.Can’t wait to see MO get injuried or retire and were left with Phil Coke.Then we’ll see if saves are meaningless.
If the Rangers have the lead late, I hope Perez is available…..I still think the Sox will win the wild card (at least), especially if they win tonight…
Enjoy the game, Rosy! You get to see the greatest roadshow in modern sports!
So what you will about Damaso Karsay but he plays an important role on this team.
You didn’t think they were going to go a season without a free agent bust did you ?
4 big free agents signed.
We got CC, AJ and Tex all kicking serious butt.
If all the free agency gods want is one lefty specialist for sacrifice then we should be eternally grateful.
Is it wise to play Alex when he’s still having neck issues?
yada yada yada August 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Good stuff on your blog, Christina. I especially liked this:
“When I questioned Arroyo’s ERA, Mike responded by saying “You can’t look at his ERA. He has had a few games where he loses his head and gave up like 10 ER’s.”
Sounds like just the kind of guy you want on your staff — someone who could at any time ‘lose his head’ and give up big innings. I’m sure he’d do well in a pressure cooker like Fenway…you really just can’t reason w/Francesa.
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thanks Yada. You really can’t win with Francesa at times. Every time I would come up with a legitimate reason as to why Arroyo would be no good, he would find some other reason to defend him. Finally I just gave up because it really wasn’t worth it.
Was funny though because after having that conversation with him, Bronson pitched a CG shutout! I guess Mike showed me.
Any updates on David Wright? We were out all afternoon and when we turned on the TV, we saw the incident where he was hit in the head. DW is one of my favorite ballplayers not on the Yankees. And anyone getting hit in the head is tremendously scary.
We have the Boston game on MLB right now. Don’t like these Boston announcers at all. (I’m assuming they’re the Boston announcers since the line score says “NESN.”)
Back to the Yankees: 30 games over 500 is phenomenal! I watched almost every game and it still takes me by surprise. 30. THIRTY. Wow.
I think Girardi has mastered the art of rotating his position players and his bullpen. He has been able to get the most out of all his players, many of whom are really not capable of playing every day. Everyone has been productive and everyone gets rest, seemingly at the right time. I, too, don’t know how anyone can complaint about Matsui (or anyone else) getting a rest. Yes, he’s been pretty hot. But it’s more important to keep him productive over the long haul (and into the post-season), than to “ride the hot hand” till he drops.
I, too, am tired of 10 p.m. starts. And there’s another west coast trip looming. Lovely. Suprisingly, I’ve stayed awake (barely) for both games so far.
That wasn’t even close. No need to argue.
Doreen, the tests came back negative on Wright. They are however keeping him overnight for observation or something. He was very lucky.
“If the Rangers have the lead late, I hope Perez is available…..I still think the Sox will win the wild card (at least), especially if they win tonight…”
you mean Feliz?
Wolf,
Good luck with the Mo jersey. Keep me posted.
Ralphie, oops,………that’s who I meant, thanks!
Oh, I forgot.
We went to a game at Safeco a few summers ago. LOVED it. It was really cool watching Ichiro between pitches, while he was playing the outfield. Loved Seattle altogether. If you ever get the chance to go, GO. My husband even almost caught a HR ball there. And almost knocked over my niece to do it!
Hey – it’ s not every day you get the chance to catch a HR!
Also took in Vancouver in the same vacation. Great, great trip if you get the opportunity.
Has anyone ever considered that the reason Matsui is so good is because of Girardi resting him when possible?
I meant “Say what you will….”
Christina -
Thanks very much for the information on Wright.
Navarro just stole a base off Brian Tallet of the Jays. Geez, you must really be sleeping for that to happen.
Side note: Does anyone have this MLB atBat app for the iphone. I am telling you it is a tremendous invention. Best 10 dollars I ever spent.
at this point, what would Marte offer? Another warm body when it goes to the 30 man?
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ase-is-on/
Who knows, maybe they’d be 35 games over .500 without Girardi.
“That’s true, none of them punched Girardi before going to Scranton.”
Not to the incompetent ones
And, do not get hung up on Melancon (if you are, I do not know), he will get his chance.
Perez. LOL.
No surprise there.
Rangers up 2-0. Penny is laboring.
Excuse me, Mr. Perfect – more arrogant, condescending garbage from you. No surprise there….nope, not at all.
GL to the Yankees! Sucks I can’t watch the game
“Who knows, maybe they’d be 35 games over .500 without Girardi. ”
May be Yanks would have won at least 4 WS without Torre since 2001
Rangers up 2-0. Penny is laboring.
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Penny strikes me as the type of guy that “labors” through menial tasks…such as sleeping.
Apparently Allysa Milano’s major complaint about Penny was that he labored through the relationship.
lol didnt Milano also date Pavano? That girl sure does get around. Can’t say she really ended up with winners though.
So the Victorino beer thrower turned himself in.
Faces a possible 18 months in the clink.
If that happened in The Bronx at least the kid could plead insanity.
Only a nut would waste a 9$ retro Schlitz.
Good to see Texas up by 2 and Buffalo tied with the Bears (sorry Betsy). Not bad viewing while waiting for the game.
Muffin stump, are you a Bills fan? Eh, from the Bears board reaction, sounds like a blech pre-season game. I hope this is not how the regular season is going to go, lol…..I don’t want to get my hopes up only to have them crushed. Good thing is that they play the Giants next week, so I’ll have a chance to watch them……
lol didnt Milano also date Pavano? That girl sure does get around. Can’t say she really ended up with winners though.
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I read on TMZ that she tried to seduce AJ Burnett…
but Burnett kept getting mad at her because she couldnt catch his curveball.
ironically enough, alyssa milano got married today:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblo.....dding.html
Rishi,
Thanks for the NYTimes link. And I wouldn’t worry about over-reactions from our over-sensitive blog host (especially when you acknowledged right away that Pete had already posted the Marte news).
thanks, Clare
betsy, just got home in time to see the bills drive for a field goal and then the td. live in rochester, so by region, guess i’m a fan. grew up watching the dolphins (and that hasn’t been much fun since the ’70s).
are you originally from chicago? have to say, the bears’ pass defense looks shaky–but, who knows, it’s probably their third string.
A-rod: “Good enough. We’ll strap it on” (per Pete’s update). Curious turn of phrase.
“Rather than enter the wedding to traditional “Here Comes the Bride” tunes, Milano instead walked towards her husband-to-be to John Lennon’s “Imagine”. ”
:vomit:
Ideally, you’d like to see marte earn his ring, but get healthy mang… WBC casualty
Rishi- well this may be sad news for some major league pitchers out there. Oh well, they will survive. Good for Milano, hopefully that guy likes baseball.
Betsy, arent the Bills playing a game or 2 in Toronto? I think they are playing against the Jets?
This is Frank Viola doing the color right?
For a second I thought I was talking to myself.
“that girl sure does get around.”
What is the acceptable number of people for a single person to date in a year before it = getting around?
I hate that phrase.
If Gonzalez was picked up to make Ortiz’s and Varitek’s batting averages look respectable, then I tip my cap to you, Mr. Epstein.
That was a good article from Tyler Kepner (no surprise there).
I’ve never been a big believer in UZR as the end-all be-all, even though I am a bit of a stat-head.
This little nugget pretty much seals the deal for me:
according to UZR, Jorge Cantu is better defensive 1B than Mark Teixeira.
In what bizarro world would this even be possible? Absolute bunk.
Muffin stump, nope – I’m from Long Island. I became Bears fan during the 1985 season (I was rooting for either the Rams or Bears to remain undefeated – once the Bears were the only ones left standing, they became my team). Actually, the movie Brian’s Song had a bigger impact on me. It’s one of my favorite movies of all time – I just cry buckets. I think that is when I became a Bear fan for real ……..
From what I can tell on the boards, the D was fine with the first stringers, not so much now. We’ll know more after the 3rd game, I would imagine.
My nephew just got the Barry Bonds treatment in his game.
Runners on first and second, 2 outs, his team ahead 4-3, they intentionally walked him. lol
For the year, he’s up to .367 but geez, its minor league baseball. I would think they would go after guys. Interesting strategy.
christina, looks like sun., oct. 18 before bills play the jets. tonight they are playing chicago.
pat-getting around dating baseball players is all I was implying. I could care how many guys she dates or sleeps with. Its just interesting the number of players shes been with.
“A-rod: “Good enough. We’ll strap it on” (per Pete’s update). Curious turn of phrase. ”
If only Beltre did the same.
I could care less**
I think Jose Molina could steal on Jason Varitek.
She dated Brad Penny, Carl Pavano and Barry Zito, all in a period of about 2 years.
She loves underachieving pitchers.
Christina, yes – they are playing the Jets in the Meadowlands and also in Toronto…….I wonder why? Oh well, I guess if the Super Bowl can be played in London…..
SJ44
August 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
My nephew just got the Barry Bonds treatment in his game.
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Well that should certainly help increase his power numbers, but frankly he should probably stay away from that stuff, or at least keep it on the down-low.
Oh, wait, you meant they walked him. Nice.
thanks Muffin. When I was in Toronto for the Yanks/Jays game they had signs all over the Rogers Centre preparing for the game. In addition to that they built a team store in the building that contained purely football stuff. Also at the baseball game they were promoting the football game and had members of the Bills there sitting in the fancy seats. It was almost if they were more concerned about that team rather than their own Blue Jays.
Watching the Sox-Rangers game on MLBN.
2-1 Texas. And they are running wild on Varitek. He can’t even throw them out on pitch-outs.
I think Martinez is their starting catcher next year, which will weaken their staff, is Varitek really is that important in game-calling. But they have no real alternative. Varitek can’t hit, and can’t throw.
Now 3-1, and Texas got their 3rd SB this inning, 6th in the game (now in 4th inning).
Did she turn them into better pitchers? The key is – WHEN did she date them? Isn’t that Susan Sarandon’s character did in Bull Durham? Actually, isn’t that where the term “Baseball Annie” comes from?
I don’t think it’s fair to give her a sleazy label because she dates…….
Thanks for the Times link Rishi. To me Tex is the MVP
Thank god for Sunday and a 4:10 start time tomorrow. Going bonkers waiting for this game.
betsy, brian’s song–i’m crying just with the vague memory. good luck to your bears this season. was 85 when they played the dolphins in the playoffs? seems i have other vague recollections of hosting a party and losing some money.
texas up 3-1.
“What is the acceptable number of people for a single person to date in a year before it = getting around?”
Pat,
For a man, well I don’t know how to make the infinity symbol appear here.
But for a woman it’s roughly 1.48
It’s better for the Bills to play a couple of games/yr in Toronto, vs. no games at all in Ralph Wilson Stadium. It’s still no given the Bills won’t eventually leave Buffalo (particularly when the day comes that Ralph Wilson no longer owns the team).
SJ44,
That’s neat about your nephew. That should help his bb/k ratio.
Have you been to see him play live yet?
Funny thing is, Martinez is worse than Varitek behind the plate. He also can’t throw anybody out.
BJK…LOL good one!
Clare,
Yes, at his last homestand.
He’s got a shot at SAL Player of the Week. He’s had a big week. I think they announce it sometime on Monday.
Though it probably didn’t happen, the perfect wedding song for the happy couple would have been “I Get Around” by The Beach Boys.
I mean, that’s a catchy tune.
Considering she’s been a celebrity since she was a kid, Alyssa M. is one of the most down to earth, nicest people in the biz. She also happens to be a rabid sports fan which makes her even more likeable.
Yankees dont run enough against boston.
Johnny Damon has a better arm than Jacoby Ellsbury
Just finished watching a piece that Rachel Nichols did on Bryce Harper for ESPN E:60 it was an interesting piece however what I found most interesting were the comments from Alex as well as Ben McDonald.
It will be interesting if this kid lives up to the hype or turns out to be a bust
i <3 Brad Peny
Is Brad Penny an “innings-eater”?
christina, interesting to hear. folks in western ny are freaking out worrying that the bills might move to toronto. the team is clearly trying to expand their market, in any case….i want to go see the yankees play at the rogers centre. how was it? how’d you get your seats, plan the trip, if you don’t mind me asking?
I think the only thing Brad Penny “eats” are cheeseburgers
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It’s coming down to this for RS playoff chances:
Lester & Beckett….
The rest will wreck it
Can you imagine? Standing on the altar and in your head you hear, “Imagine all those pitchers…”?
Yikes!
gayle
I saw that during the week. I hope he’s emotionally ready to be taking on this challenege. It would be a special 16 year old that is.
Very true, SJ44. At this point, Martinez can only be considered a catcher in the most perfunctory sense. Their system has no up-and-comers at the position, and the free agent market for next season is pretty barren.
There isn’t a single free-agent catcher for next season who is under the age of 31:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ree-a.html
betsy, brian’s song—i’m crying just remembering. good luck to your bears this season.
GO RANGERS, GO RANGERS, GO RANGERS
I am here to declare that the Rangers will not blow this game!
(Are you listening Rangers?)
I have high hopes for Mitre. I always think that there is a chance that someone who has been progressing even though by inches has the potential to at some point turn in a terrific game. I am here to declare that tonight is the night!
(Are you listening Sergio?)
GO YANKEES!
Muffin, I have been going to games in Toronto every year for about 5-6 years. I have to tell you it is a fun experience (minus the 6 hour drive each way for me anyhow) and I would recommend you head there. For one, the city of Toronto is just absolutely beautiful. Plus you can get some amazing tickets for a reasonable price. For example, to get tickets behind the Yankees dugout, the cost is 73 dollars. If you dont want to spend that much you can sit in the upper level for about 12-14 dollars (canadian so its a little cheaper than that).
Just go online to get the seats. You can also get them at the ticket office when your down there if you dont want to do it ahead of time. I have stayed at a variety of hotels while down there. If you decide to head down there, shoot me an email or let me know. I can give you some rec. on where to stay and where to go. I actually posted some pictures on my blog, you can check them out if you want. I stayed at the hotel attached to the Rogers Centre the last time I was there.
http://alleitersbullpencatcher.....entre.html
VMart just hit a HR. I’m tellin’ ya – typical – good players gets a rush going to Boston. Yuch.
I wonder how tempted Ron Washington might be to use Neftali Feliz as the closer tonight?
This is such a vital game for the Rangers that you have to throw convention out the window, imho. After Francisco’s absolute meltdown last night, I don’t think anyone would blame him.
yada, i agree re playing in toronto if it helps the bills stay in western ny. can’t imagine them playing anywhere but buffalo…still think of tennessee as the houston oilers, lol.
Pat-
I thought the same thing the kid although seemed very mature during the interview i really cant see a 16 year old ready to deal with what is coming his way.
Muffin Stump, thanks!
Doreen, Martinez is a good hitter. I’m sure he would have hit had he stayed in Cleveland. The fact is is that he’s helped their offense a great deal……so the trade was a very good one for them.
Penny already over 100 pitches – not out of the 5th
Not a good sign for Sox BP
If Mitre can’t pitch well vs. a AAA hitting club (6 IP, 3 ER) then I’m afraid his 15 min. are up
Sox will be forced to use Martinez behind the plate, because of his bat.
Ideally, he would play 1B or DH, but they are already crowded their – Youk, Lowell, Kotchman, Ortiz.
They would probably be best off by moving Ortiz and just eat his remaining money as a sunk cost; Kotchman at 1B, Youk at 3B, Martinez DH, and look for a real catcher (if Yanks go with Cervelli or Montero next year as Posada’s backup, Molina would be available). Under this scenario, they would move both Ortiz and Lowell.
And find a SS and LF.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
VMart just hit a HR. I’m tellin’ ya – typical – good players gets a rush going to Boston. Yuch.
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I agree that it seems that way, but in truth, VMart’s numbers are about the same as they’ve been all season.
Coming in to this game, he was batting .283 as a BoSox and .284 on the season as a whole.
That HR was his 3rd as a Red Sox, pacing him for about 6 for the month of August. He hit 10 in July as an Indian.
That was a typo… he hit 1 in July as an Indian, but 7 in June.
I see Big Frappe is getting the roid-boo wherever he goes. Good, he deserves it.
Say what you want about Arod but he never felt the need to sit down and provide an expletive-filled rant to and at the press because he didn’t like what was being said about him. I can’t wait until he takes his show out of town for good.
christina, hey, thanks. cool pics. (i bookmarked your blog, btw.) good to know about tickets being so reasonable. i definitely will plan to go next season. are there less expensive places than sky dome/rogers centre hotel?
“VMart just hit a HR. I’m tellin’ ya – typical – good players gets a rush going to Boston. Yuch.”
You mean like Edgar Renteria got a rush? I think it has a lot to do with where they are coming from. They’d probably get the same kind of rush going to quite a few teams. It also depends on where you’re leaving IMO. I don’t think it has much to do with Boston per se.
Betsy =
I know Martinez is a good hitter. I wasn’t clear in my post, I guess. But what I meant was just like Jason Bay last season he seems to have gotten an “extra” bump now that he’s on the Red Sox. He won the game for them last night. He hit a HR today. Maybe I’m hyper-focused on him, but he’s making a mark up in Boston.
gayle
I’ve got a soon to be 15 year old so I’ve got bias in this area.
Seeming mature and being mature are 2 different realities unfortunately.
Trisha -
A lot of people downplayed Boston getting Martinez. I’m more or less reacting to that.
“but in truth, VMart’s numbers are about the same as they’ve been all season.
Coming in to this game, he was batting .283 as a BoSox and .284 on the season as a whole.
That HR was his 3rd as a Red Sox, pacing him for about 6 for the month of August. He hit 10 in July as an Indian.”
Exactly, and also why they got Martinez.
as much as I love my Yankees – after the beginnings of a root canal and a long business trip – a positive result in the TEX-BOS game means I don’t have to stay up to the end of the Yankee game…
“A lot of people downplayed Boston getting Martinez. I’m more or less reacting to that.”
Gotcha. I guess though that he is doing what was probably expected of him because he has had a good season.
Did this French guy beat us when he was with DET?
Delcarmen in for the Sux. 6th inning.
It’s a killer that Texas was one flippin strike away from winning last night. Hopefully they win tonight and then takes the series.
trisha -
Yes. I agree – he’s doing for Boston exactly what they wanted him to do.
Is this a My9 game? Both broadcasts on MLB Extra Innings are the SEA broadcast.
SEA fans are idiots. Alex has been gone from there for ages now. Get over it!
It’s YES broadcast. You know we get that with DirectTv.
it’s a YES game
muffin- I stayed at the Courtyard Marriot in Toronto a few years back which is pretty cheap. A lot of the hotels in that area are pretty expensive so you really have to price around when you are going there. While the Courtyard Marriot was cheap it wasn’t in the best location.(not near any of the stores and also in a somewhat sketchy area). Overall, it was hard walking around there alone and wasnt close to the stadium so I havent stayed there since. If you are with others, its not too bad.
There must be something wrong with the feed to MLB Extra Innings then. Both the regular and the HD feed is SEA.
Why would anyone hate A Rod?
There goes those damn trains again.
Wonder if Texas can hold a 2 run lead tonight?
You know, they still love Junior, but I seem to recall him leaving Seattle for big money and a change of scenery himself.
Funny how that works.
Yanks leave 2 runners stranded int he 1st…..hold your breath…here comes Mitre
Are you serious about the money. Boy those people in Seattle are a bitter bunch! He left Seattle 9 YEARS AGO! GET OVER IT!
I do not like home plate ump C B Bucknor.
What’s the over/under on how many runs Mitre coughs up in the 1st? I say 3.
Somehow I think Igawa could do better than a 7 ERA…..but you may disagree…
Mitre will give up at least 5 in 5….
How many times is YES going to talk about Griffey Jr.? Enough already.
CB stinks. I played college ball with him and he stunk then and he stinks now. Was a relief pitcher who never pitched. He is brutal on the Yanks when he umps their games. Torre hated him.
tough error on a do-or-die play. and Cabrera was really slow coming in on that one.
E-4
come on Mitre
got to love meat tray!!!!
how is that an error? Ichiro is fast as hell, the only way Robi gets him is a backhand to a snap throw.
Garbage pitcher Mitre
UPDATE, 10:15 p.m.: Wow, they really hate A-Rod here. The earthy crunchy Seattle fans booing loudly and some throwing fake money in the air as he comes to the plate. Booing all through his at-bat, too.
UPDATE, 10:17 p.m.: Hold everything, its real money they were throwing. Some of it just fluttered into the press box. It has an advertisement stuck on it by emailbroadcast.com “Results so good even YOU can afford the Material Girl.” It says.
Funny.
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good stuff Pete
“E-4″ ….6.5 games back…hope you can hang on to that wildcard
Ichiro is a monster, I love that guy.
There’s no way that should be an error on Cano, he got a tough hop. Mainly because Ichiro smoked it and caused a TON of topspin.
SEA announcers thought that was gone.
hold it here Mitre, you gotta.
GreenBeret7 August 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
tough error on a do-or-die play. and Cabrera was really slow coming in on that one.
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Agreed. Took way too long for someone to retrieve it.
it is a good question..who is worse/better Igawa or Mitre…..
already 1-0
Rangers announcers saying Francisco not pitching tonight after pitching two days in a row.
I like their chances much better now.
Mitre stinks…if Bruiney continues to pitch well it might free up Aceves to SP
And I thought the SEA fans were dumb before. Now, we find out that they are throwing away real money. Guess they didn’t hear about how bad the economy is these days.
Vote of confidence from Singelton, guys crushes ball for SF to base of wall which was almost a HR and Kenny says Motre did alright. Way to go I would have thought alright was not giving up the run.
YankeeRay
I think we have had this discussion before.
Interesting that you played ball with him. He really is brutal.
Is anyone going to check out what that website is? not me, don’t want to give them hits.
I can’t think of any Yankee player that has ever left that I would waste my energy booing.
If I didn’t like them, I’d just be glad they were gone.
RDM
August 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
already 1-0
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Who are you, the narrator?
already 6.5 games back..if you should learn anything you should know the yankees always come back…i hope for you its not 7.5 games back for the sox
Mirte…somewhere along the way you have to cut the cord with this guy
Meat Tray serves up a run on a silver platter for Ichiro.
Really not too bad of a job pitching for Mitre in the first. Run scored because Ichiro is, well, Ichiro. Mitre got him to bounce a grounder, it just took a bad hop and Cano couldn’t come up with it. Nor Mitre’s fault.
If Mitre can hold the damage here we’ll be in good shape. Many Yankee pitchers give up runs in the first and live to see the next day.
Well, Yanks might lose 3 games next weekend to the Sox…they can’t beat them in Fenway this year….
I’d boo the hell out of Tony Womack, even if I saw him in church.
yeah, i was against aceves in the starting rotation, but if joe is only going to use him as long man you might as well make him a starter, make mitre or gaudin the long man…Ace is wasted in that role
Mitre may or may not stink, but nothing in that inning was that bad. He got 2 ground balls, a fly out and a K. No one said he’s Cy Young.
“yada yada yada August 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Rangers announcers saying Francisco not pitching tonight after pitching two days in a row.”
Must be tough pitching BP, wore him out.
by next weekend the yanks may be up 10 games, the division is over….who cares if they lost 3 straight at that point.
Or by next weekend could be 3 games up and tied by end of it….you never know…
was that a TOny Womack reference……
Nice hit there Cano. With that throw he could have made it to second.
Cano is such a great hitter.
Stays down on it and drives it to left center.
Textbook right there.
Joeman I think we reached that point long ago. Possible excuse night for Girardi again tonight. You know he only made 3 bad pitches, got a tough play in the field. The ump didn’t give him any close calls. He will be alright for his next start
I think I would boo, Jaret Wright and Kevin Brown
RDM isn’t it past your bedtime?
# RDM August 15th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Well, Yanks might lose 3 games next weekend to the Sox…they can’t beat them in Fenway this year….
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Before the last series, it was “the Yankees can’t beat Boston at all.” How’d that series turn out?
1st and 3rd one out, Texas at bat
miggs
August 15th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
RDM isn’t it past your bedtime?
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It’s still summer. School’s haven’t started yet
I only boo BOS players, current and former. Except for Damon.
Are they playing the Mets?
How did that one drop. Ichiro looked really silly there, like he was trying to sneak away so no one would notice.
yeah POV i agree, giardi has this weired love affair with Mtire, he also had a a similar love affair with kyle farnsworth, I believe joe cried when farnsworth was traded last year..is that accurate..
Yanks won 4 in a row…but 4 out of 12 isn’t anything to brag about….
MY MAN JOSE!!!!
French approaching 40 pitches with only one out in the 2nd.
And now the game is tied.
Looking good.
Who said that Molina was a rally killer?
That could have been a very bad send. By rights if that was a good throw he would have been out.
1-1…in case you were not watching RDM
Dang. Yankees gave up a run. I have no idea how they are going to come back from that…oh, wait, Cano just scored. Gee, tie ball game again. Ugh.
I’m guessing he’s not banned because he single-handedly accounts for 30% of the game thread comments.
Unfortunately, 100% of them are spam.
Wow I thought Cano was dead meat on that one. LF’er had the ball with Cano at third.
Man, I wish Girardi started his “A” lineup. That Molina sure is an automatic out.
Molina….yes…it is bedtime…catch you all later
Molina is a rally killer..I said it…
I wonder if the pitchers have to pay extra to have their names put on their mitts.
2-1
pov me too. I was screaming how could u send him! I thought he was a dead duck.
2-1 Yankees. Ugh.
“That could have been a very bad send. By rights if that was a good throw he would have been out.”
Jenni quiet hush..you trying to give RDM more ammo?
2-1 sac fly
Who’s kid is in the dugout. The blond one?
Ok Jetes
over under innings for mitre….5…
“Who are you, the narrator?”
The tool is the happiest loser on this forum because his pathetic commentary gets him exactly what he wants – responses from you guys. He is sitting laughing his butt off because he knows just what to say to get a reaction.
And unfortunately everyone is playing right into his ugly little claw that has a tatoo of the letter “B” on top of it.
I wasn’t sure that would stay fair.
Rob we are up 2-1….
4-1 Yankees. Ugh. That first inning run really killed the best offense in baseball. Ugh.
how many points he gets there?
Brandon sorry you are right. That was a very aggressive and good send by Thomson. I like this guy.
Nick Swisher! Um why can’t you do that at the homer haven Yankee Stadium?
Swish is the man! Hopefully Mitre can lock it up
we are not man…WE ARE MACHINE!!!
this team is on a roll
Swishy!
Swish….4-1 Rob…
Pov August 15th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Joeman I think we reached that point long ago. Possible excuse night for Girardi again tonight. You know he only made 3 bad pitches, got a tough play in the field. The ump didn’t give him any close calls. He will be alright for his next start
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the guy has started 5 games & has pitch 23 innings while giving up 38 hits & 21 runs… HE STINKS!!!!!!
5-2 Rangers. They just scored a run on a balk.
good times.
Alright Nick can Tweet about his own HR tonight
And to think Girardi had the nerve to rest Damon today in the 2 slot.
Awwww. Balked in a run in Texas. 5-2.
by the way 5-2 texas….on a balk..
so the best situational hitter on the Yankees is Swishy?
French up to 50 pitches after 2
I wish we had scored these runs for Andy last night.
Teixeira. That rally-killer. Ugh.
Enough Tiant August 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
over under innings for mitre….5…
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put me down for under
RDM
August 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Molina….yes…it is bedtime…catch you all later
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Generally, the term “catch you all later” implies an exit.
Question for Pete
Why do you allow RDM to post such utter nonsense?
Question for regulars,
Why do you think Pete allows RDM to continually post such nonsense?
Between Innings off topic
Tiger going to hold on tomm to win #15 at the PGA?
tarheelyank – maybe b/c rdm = pete?
The Sox are getting absolutely KILLED by Julio Borbon.
Wholio?
Giardi has a love affair with certain pitchers. I dont get it. I could understand it if they had no one else to pitch in mitres spot.,but they have ace and gaudin…..it is strange…mitre has been terrible…however this is intereting if he blows a 4-1 no excuses, however if he pitches lights out….he is going to get a bunch more starts.
What, no Ben Zobrist on the Toyota text poll for Teixeira’s MVP competition?
NL protocol question: if an NL pitcher hits a batter, is it usual practice for the team to then hit that pitcher when he bats up or is that taboo?
Already 4-1. NYY
No Idea I’d love to see him get banned.
wow 22-6 after AllStar break…
BJK – he’s going for a diaper change. He wasn’t expecting a 4-1 lead and so you know he kind of lost it and now needs to be changed.
He’ll be back if anything happens that looks bad for the Yanks.
who on earth believes zobrist is an mvp canidate? That is bizarre, there are a couple players on the rays who i would put over him..
Joe likes saying “Sergy”.
What’s that euphemism?
Starve a virus, feed a cold.
I wonder who Mel is rooting for now.
Say what you want about Swisher, but he sure has come through for this team time and time again.
Don’t be so rough on rdm, guys.
He gave us the ultimate gift. The sarcasm symbol. “ugh”
I emailed Pete and told him that nobody wanted the guy here and asked if he would off him, but apparently Pete doesn’t think that his trolling asinine gnat-like behavior is ban worthy.
Mitre, is getting the ground balls. If he keeps that up, he should be good for at least 6 and a low run total.
This is exactly why I don’t understand all the whining about the “weaknesses” of this team. That and the formidable Sox and their unbeatable Beckett/Lester combo.
30 games over .500.
6.5 game lead and growing.
And most importantly, a will to win that this team hasn’t had in a long time.
Look nothing is certain and the playoffs are a crapshoot but this team has the potential to be great. Despite what some posters on here claim, this team has no glaring weaknesses. It is balanced and deep.
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
here is an off topic question..about quality starts..I know a quality start means 6 innings 3 runs….take this situation a pitcher pitches 6 innins gives up zero runs…quality start right..however what if he pitches the 7th inning and gives up 5 runs..is it still a quality start
Let’s get a few more runs now
Just ignore RDM. I really didnt even notice what he was saying until he was mentioned. Hes just looking for attention.
Still hard to believe that Cleveland traded Martinez in the league to the Sox. I see he hit one out again tonight.
“wow 22-6 after AllStar break…”
Not surprisingly really. We’ve always been a second half team. Usually though, we’re doing the chasing. This time, we’re being chased. I definitely prefer us being chased.
“who on earth believes zobrist is an mvp canidate? That is bizarre, there are a couple players on the rays who i would put over him..”
I was being facetious. There have been a few posts mentioning him as an MVP candidate.
“Don’t be so rough on rdm, guys.
He gave us the ultimate gift. The sarcasm symbol. “ugh””
dont ban RDM he is fun to pick on…
21 of the 25 players on Cleveland’s opening day roster have either been traded or placed on the DL at some point this season. Pretty brutal.
Andrew, if you’re here, I did pick up Feliz.
Wow, French wants no part of Alex.
“dont ban RDM he is fun to pick on…”
Have at. I find him more fun to ignore.
i know it was not you rob…i saw people saying that last night. i could not believe it
Managers comment to French right now. I can’t believe our GM traded Washburn for you.
Come on Jorge!!
“Between Innings off topic
Tiger going to hold on tomm to win #15 at the PGA?”
I thought it was going to be great theater tomorrow when Harrington and Tiger were tied with 4-5 holes to go.
But then Harrington fell back and Tiger goes into Sunday with a 3 shot lead.
He usually finishes those off. I’d be surprised if anyone is within striking distance coming down the stretch.
perez throwing 100 for texas
Well, that was unfortunate. Them be the breaks sometimes.
meant feliz
cno is on fire
Robbie is a hitting machine.
Cano now with 51 multi hit games. Wow. That’s crazy good.
Since when is Jerry Hairston such a good hitter?
I don’t get it, how is that funny?
Hairston was a great pickup.
Guy can play anywhere.
And as I type this he doubles down the line.
This Hairston guy makes me wish Ransom was still on the team.
too bad about that double play…this would have been a big inning..by the way it nice watching YES without Kay
Feliz just made Fat Slappy look like a joker! Boy the kid has some kind of heat.
Miggs, it’s 2 shots as he didn’t make that last birdie. What bothered me was in the post round press conference he said he played conservative today. Those things often come back to haunt you. I guess time will tell.
Did David Ortiz stand much of a chance against Neftali? No, he did not.
Feliz will be going for a two-inning save if the Rangers don’t score in the bottom of the 8th.
poor ransom…
“perez throwing 100 for texas”
Its Feliz. You’re the second one to refer to him as Perez tonight. That’s sort of odd.
Wow how didn’t they score in that inning.
there’s sure is alot of passion in Leche this yr.
Got to love Hariston
nice little addition
Zobrist: .285/.399/.532 19 Hrs 60 RBI
Longoria: .279/.367/.532 24 HR 88RBI
Longoria is in a better RBI spot, so more RBI’s but both have similar AVG and SLG, Zobrist reaches base more. He also has 14 steals. It is pretty close.
i do not get the geico commerical with the cavemen hanging out with that song ” let me be myself.” enough with the cavemen…..
I meant the throwing money thing Pete mentioned.
Big Popup now at .219. I would love for him to finish the season below .200.
Yanks stranded 4 runners through 3 innings…hope it doesn’t come back to haunt them…meanwhile Big Poopie K’s…OK…it really is past my bedtime…have to get up soon…take care…go Yanks!!!!
Neftali Feliz is just nasty. Wait till he joins the rotation in 2010.
melky’s hitting is just pathetic right now.
“Miggs, it’s 2 shots as he didn’t make that last birdie.”
pov you’re exactly right, my mistake. I don’t know why I thought it was 3 shots.
there’s sure is alot of passion in Leche this yr
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My wife’s trying to teach our 6-year old Spanish. Luckily, she hasn’t learned those words yet.
Borbon, Kinsler, and Andrus combined to steal 6 bases off Fairytek and Penny tonight. Too funny. I thought Fairytek was the most wonderful catcher in the universe, but he can’t catch even 1 in 6?
I like Crawford and Jason Bartlett much more for the rays, How many shortstops are having a year like bartlett?
Rangers are lucky to have Feliz. That kid is something special. It looks like he throws 100mph with ease.
Dan
August 15th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Since when is Jerry Hairston such a good hitter?
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Hairston hit .326 last year with a .386 OBP in an injury shortened season. Also stole 15 bases.
Completely underrated pick-up by Cashman.
The Rangers have stolen 28 bases tonight.
O.k., maybe it’s only 7, but still…
RDM
August 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
“Molina….yes…it is bedtime…catch you all later”
Stop teasing us.
Mo August 15th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Zobrist: .285/.399/.532 19 Hrs 60 RBI
Longoria: .279/.367/.532 24 HR 88RBI
Longoria is in a better RBI spot, so more RBI’s but both have similar AVG and SLG, Zobrist reaches base more. He also has 14 steals. It is pretty close.
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Mauer .378/.466/.630 22 HRs 73 RBI in only 91 games.
That Bedard trade was really a bust for SEA.
seriously the mariners line-up is awful.
qiantom August 15th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
melky’s hitting is just pathetic right now.
I think Melky could be a good hitter, he just has never overcome that impatience at the plate and swings at way too many bad pitches especially when the count is in his favor.
“Neftali Feliz is just nasty. Wait till he joins the rotation in 2010.”
He’s the first really good pickup I’ve had on my fanatsy team in a while. I am seriously thinking of dropping James Shields and picking up one of Texas’s starters.
big bust Laura, I agree….Bedard is garbage….adam jones is the man sherill to even though the orioles traded him
Wow. Varitek’s CS percentage is really going to drop. How much worse can you get than 15%?
There’s a problem in Texas, Houston. And it isn’t with the Rangers!
Runners on the corners, nobody out.
Melky just needs a day off. He’ll be fine.
EIGHT steals for the Rangers against hte Sox!!
This could be a fun inning to watch in Texas. They’ve intentionally loaded the bases and nobody is out…
Melky will never really be a good hitter..he is kinda like a young I don’t know how about Randy winn?? he is decent though..you can’t really get down on him…he is what he is
Bases full of rangers. Let’s go Tonto!
trisha,
former Sox David Murphy up to hand out the punishment
Oh now your just showing off Marky Mark.
Mark with MVP type D.
I think we get too stuck on numbers when it comes to the MVP conversation. The “most valuable” isn’t always the one that puts up the biggest numbers. That certainly is a big part of it, but not everything. You have to ask, “who has made the biggest impact on their team?”
Especially after watching what Teixeira just did, I gotta go with him.
But Trish in fantasy baseball aren’t set up bullpen guys not too valuable?
I mean he won’t get many saves or wins.
Maybe he’ll get you some Ks but I’m not sure what else.
I could also be completely wrong, I haven’t played fantasy baseball in a few years. Your scoring system could also be different.
yada yada yada August 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
The Rangers have stolen 28 bases tonight.
O.k., maybe it’s only 7, but still…
Lets face it Varitek is a liability to the Sox, next year Martinez will be the catcher and Jason will be lucky to be the backup.
I remember how many Yanks fans wanted Bedard!
phew…
If Tex doesn’t win the GG this year, that will be proof of the anti-Yankee bias that exists.
So far it seems like Mitre is doing OK
Mitre 35 pitches thru 5. Nice.
Can somebody explain how the UZR can come up with Tex being a bad defensive 1B? I’m no statistician, but that by itself should consign it to the trash bin.
8 stolen bases for Texas tonight, they are running wild on Boston tonight
Mitre pitching very very well!
I know it is early, but that kind of pitching is what Girardi is talking about when he says he thinks Mitre pitches well.
I know it is early, but this is the kid most here didn’t want to see back because he is a garbage pitcher…
I didn’t agree then, and I don’t agree now. It is easy to see he has a lot to offer. I only hope the TJ surgery doesn’t limit his success.
Come on Murphy.
Ok well that didn’t work. They’re one hit away from blowing this wide open.
Byrd. He’s a decent hitter.
“Especially after watching what Teixeira just did, I gotta go with him.”
Dude, it’s not even close. Not to take anything away from CC and AJ, but what Tex does out on the field makes everyone else around him better. He has made the biggest difference IMO.
Tex is the MVP…no doubt…best player on the best team Mauer second …was Morneau on that list that yes put up?
Andrus: “Man, this Borbon guy is making me look bad. He’s got three steals. I gotta catch up.
Borbon: “Andrus just caught me? Damn, that means I gotta get another.”
Andrus: “!@*&!#%$#. Am I gonna even get another AB? Anyway I can steal home here?”
“Melky will never really be a good hitter..he is kinda like a young I don’t know how about Randy winn?? he is decent though..you can’t really get down on him…he is what he is”
He also is tired. No offense but when Gardenhoser got hurt this was what was expected. It’s not like Melky plays 1st base or anything, he has to run everyday in CF.
8 steals with their best defensive option in there. Wait til they get desperate for offense and play martinez there full time. Run rabbit run.
The surgety is not going “limit his success” he is what he is…a bad major league pitcher….
Forgot to tell you guys the :vomit: Pavano story.
I was listening to espn radio in the afternoon yesterday, odd thing Jason Smith (night guy) was sitting in. So he and the other guy were talking about Landon Donovan, the US loss, his testing positive for swine flu, and on and on.
So they say that the Mexican fans were vomiting into their beer cups and throwing it at Donovan. Then Smith is all, “Can you imagine if baseball fans in the states did that? Throwing cups of vomit at Carl Pavano?”
It was pretty hilarious. Out of all the players he could’ve mentioned. Former Yankee pitcher Carl Pavano drew the short stick.
Nice play by Ichiro.
That man is not human.
Another one of those NBA emblem catches.
Molina’s swinging the bat good this series.
French 62 pitches,Mitre 35 at the end of 3
The Yankees are drilling French, and don’t have many runs to show for it.
“Tex is the MVP…no doubt…best player on the best team Mauer second …was Morneau on that list that yes put up?”
Yes. No pun intended.
I like Melky, but we have to lower our expectations about him…he is giving the yanks more then they could ask for…
I like Melky, but we have to lower our expectations about him…he is giving the yanks more then they could ask for…
“The surgety is not going “limit his success” he is what he is…a bad major league pitcher….”
Awwww. Joe Girardi doesn’t agree with you. Neither do I. But thanks for weighing in!
Watch out for flying bus tires if you’re in the Arlington area.
7-2 TEX
bases juiced for Texas no outs, now 2 outs and no runs scored. See it isn’t only the Yankees that do it.
fair enough..
7-2.
Oh yeah!
You act like Melky is hitting .220.
He’s gotten so many clutch hits and played a good defensive CF all year. He’s “slumping” at .270 and hasn’t had a day off in over a month.
They are hitting this guy hard, but right at somebody.
7-2 rangers
Rish, I think you will be able to go to bed early tonight!
Hamilton with the clutch single. Glad to see his return to drinking hasn’t affected his ability to drive guys in.
Josh Hamilton !
again i like melky, but people get down on him when he does not come through or goes in a slump..I am just saying he is what he is…a decent hitter and a good center fielder..
Mitre: 7 groundball outs, 1 flyball out, 1 K.
He’s a sinkerball pitcher right? That’s exactly what we need to see from him. Even the two hits were on groundballs. The only hard hit ball he’s given up was the big sac fly. I like what he’s done so far.
Question of the day: can he keep it up?
Kinsler just DRILLED in the head!
ouch
Ian Kinsler just got hit in the head.
Sox are such punks.
Kinsler drilled in the side of the head.
Kinsler just got drilled in the head. Tomorrow’s game s/b interesting.
Cabrera is notoriously wild… but of course it comes after Hamilton’s single made it 7-2 so it looks bad
ooh kinlser just got hit in the back of the head
7-2 and then they hit kinsler in head. feliz at 100 could be scary in 9th
Texas nearly has a “Francisco proof” lead.
Those Red Sox sure are classy. down 7-2 and they nail Kinsler in the head
“Hamilton with the clutch single. Glad to see his return to drinking hasn’t affected his ability to drive guys in.”
He got drunk in February. Let’s not got too righteous.
he only needs to keep it up for about an inning or two..he should against this line-up it is terrible..
OMG – Ian Kinsler was hit in the head……wow, right below the ear.
Pitching the 8th inning for the RS – Fernando Cabrera
About that alleged great pitching depth…..
ha ha Kinsler yelled at Varitek after he got up. :lol
Sox always beaning teams.
“Question of the day: can he keep it up?”
Lord only knows. But I vote yes. Here’s hoping!
That fastball didn’t look like it got away from Cabrera. I wouldn’t mind seeing Feliz plunk a Red Sox with a 100mph heater.
Enough Tiant August 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
again i like melky, but people get down on him when he does not come through or goes in a slump..I am just saying he is what he is…a decent hitter and a good center fielder..
I agree he plays good defense, but his offense don’t offset it. When you think about the great CF’ers the Yanks have had, Melky isn’t close to any of them.
Texas is taking it to Bawstin,bot 8th. TEX 7 RS 2
“He got drunk in February. Let’s not got too righteous.”
I didn’t know that. The way the news talked about it made it seem like it was recent. My apologies to Josh.
Cashman said he believes Mitre will get stronger as the year goes on since he’s returning from TJ. He looks like he could be correct.
Red Sox just keep starting crap with everyone. I expect something to happen that was very dangerous.
whose kid is that in the dugout next to joba and andy?
What’s with all the beanballs today?
Boston spiralling.
Remember when Penny said, “It’s not over. Not even close.”
lol. Don’t think he meant the Yankees would run away with the division.
so was the kinsler beaning intentional?
Red Sox: if we can’t beat them, bean them.
Absolute cheese right by Varitek.
I’m loving this.
It did happen in February, but don’t be fooled. I doubt it was a one-time thing.
But, the guy is tested for every kind of drug there is 3x a week by the Rangers.
That’s the main thing.
He did it !!
At least he didn’t throw it into CF.
so was the kinsler beaning intentional?
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probably not, but it was UGLY.
hey he made the good throw!
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: If I lived in Seattle, I’d get season tickets in right field just to see Ichiro play 81 times a year. That was a great catch. He does something fun to watch every day.
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Pete I am so with you on this one, that’s what I do when Seattle is in town, I purposely buy ticket in right field just to see Ichiro. I say he is an handsdown HOF!!!!
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: If I lived in Seattle, I’d get season tickets in right field just to see Ichiro play 81 times a year. That was a great catch. He does something fun to watch every day.
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Pete I am so with you on this one, that’s what I do when Seattle is in town, I purposely buy ticket in right field just to see Ichiro. I say he is an handsdown HOF!!!!
Hey, Mitre didn’t throw it away that time!
Unfortunately, no DP either. But at least they got one out.
Hey look at least Mitre got it to Jeter. I’ll take one out!
Hey Mitre didn’t throw the ball into CF
nesn apologists seem to suggest not.
David Wright got hit in the head! Just saw a quick highlight – anyone know if he’s ok?
Mitre last game wasn’t bad either. Take away a bad throw on a double play grounder, and he only give up 2 earned runs.
And as I type this he blows another DP grounder.
when are they going to reverse that error on Cano?
that was a very difficult play even if it wasnt Ichiro running
TEXAS WINS DA GAME!!!!!
At least Meat Tray did a little better getting that ball over to Jeter. Still a bit slow, he hesitates as if eh has to think about it before throwing.
Do the red sox want to piss off every team? That was scary to watch, hopefully Kinsler will be ok
The HBP was more like the Melancon no control from a young guy but still he hit Kinsler in the head
i would love to see the yankees upgrade centerfield…but that is really hard to do….how or who will the yankees get to play center that is any better than what they have…there are not many good centerfielders out there…
They just showed the replay of Mitre throwing the ball into CF. I wish they would stop showing that as is all I can think about is Mo throwing that ball into CF against the Diamondbacks in the WS.
“And as I type this he blows another DP grounder.”
It went into someone’s glove. That’s progress!
NitO LiNk
Saw video that he walked to the ambulance. last I heard he is staying overnight in the hospital.
that’s really embarrassing Kenny.
I can’t see any way the Kinsler beaning was intentional.
It would be like Jose Veras beaning someone. Cabrera has poor control and I can’t see him going for a guy’s head.
:/
I think Wright’s spending the night in the hospital.
He walked off the field but he looked dazed.
Damn. Mitre’s got some bad luck tonight.
the universe must hate Mitre.
Man, another unlucky groundball for Mitre. Bleh.
Oh wait, I forgot. The word is “Ugh”.
how many times will the words “tommy john surgery” be mentioned when this dolt pitches…..
meat tray…lol
nitO, someone on the board reported earlier that david wright’s tests were negative, as in he’s okay.
Wright has a concussion
Yeah RS lost!
lol. Singletary just called Sergio “Meat-tray”.
Was Kinsler okay?
Trisha
You and me were about the only two who have stuck by Mitre since his first start. But, He needs to fix that comebacker, throw to second problem.
This is the third game where he has hesitated or worse on that play.
Mark.
Good God, is that guy good at first!
Teixeira. You can’t ignore the glove. The man is the MVP.
Teixeira: UZR this!
I love Tex
another addition to Marky Mark’s And1 baseball mixtap vol.1
In stores soon.
Yeah, Giambi would have had that.
Texcellence.
Teixeira loves to take those himself. He gauges them perfectly, and eliminates any possibility of a throwing error.
*mixtape
Teixeira just doesn’t like to make that toss.
grace, kinsler got up and walked to first. he seemed okay and i believe finished the game. still scary.
Jennifer, Bronx Jeers :
Thanks. I hate those no good Mets with a passion but DWright is a good, young player. Just as I wouldnt want a Yankee to get hit above the shoulders (actually, anywhere for that matter) I wouldnt wish it onto anyone. Hope he’s ok.
Kinsler seemed to be alright. He stayed in the game, and Andrus was jokingly rubbing his head after the last out.
I have been diagnosed with Mitre Mania and the only cure is More Mitre!
Muffin Stump, Piv :
Thanks. iphones taking tooooo long to load.
“I have been diagnosed with Mitre Mania and the only cure is More Mitre!”
What’s funny about that is that during his last starts, I actually thought that maybe he was pitching poorly because he had a cowbell in his glove.
That looks like trisha’s favorite ump behind the plate.
Kinsler was angry not only because he was hit in the head, but a pitch earlier in the game was very high-and-tight.
If the Rangers get a big lead tomorrow, there will be some action.
he was skinny back then…
would’ve been 3 walks
people really like mitre…I must be missing something
“he was skinny back then…”
He was 19…..
m: are you watching this game with the 49rs coach??
“Teixeira just doesn’t like to make that toss.”
Why make the toss if you don’t have to? Just adds a chance for an error.
Like the football saying goes, “Only 3 things can happen on a pass, and two of them are bad.”
“would’ve been 3 walks”
RDM is somewhere agreeing w/ that.
The Yankees had this guy on the ropes earlier. What’s with these crappy at bats?
true…i was just saying
haha. good catch.
Singleton.
And then Flash called him “Meat-tray”, too.
What’s with that?
I see the Yankees are doing their normal thing. One inning and then wait till the seventh. All HR swings.
they have scored 4 runs in 5innings…yes it should have been more but, still….4 runs in 5 innings is not bad….they need more though
2009 – Yankees hit by pitch 38, Red Sox hit by pitch 52
Opponents hit by Yankee pitchers 52, and by Red sox pitchers 51
did he really say meat tray
“What’s with these crappy at bats?”
They’re taking an inning off.
“But, He needs to fix that comebacker, throw to second problem.
This is the third game where he has hesitated or worse on that play.”
Tar, I hear what you’re saying but I think the fact that he blew it twice is what caused him to hesitate. Hopefully the next time he’ll have more confidence.
>RDM is somewhere agreeing w/ that.
Good for him.
Mitre 2 for 2 now.
good thing the bullpen is well rested, it will be needed
Enough,
He says it like it’s two words. Quite Anglicized.
Hey for any sabermetric nuts, why is Marco Scutaro’s WAR so high this year, what am I missing?
Meat Tray looks very shaky whenever he has to make a throw in the infield.
No wonder why Teixeira has been taking it himself the past few innings..
You have to appreciate Mitre trying to rub the stench off of #45. Brave soul to wear it.
bullpen coach seems like an easy job…
Rob B August 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
“Teixeira just doesn’t like to make that toss.”
Why make the toss if you don’t have to? Just adds a chance for an error.
Like the football saying goes, “Only 3 things can happen on a pass, and two of them are bad.”
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I think it also has to do with maybe he doesn’t trust Mitre. Maybe if it was Andy, CC, etc he would toss it. It wasn’t that easy of a play. He had to get off the ground and run hard to just get the runner.
I like how Mitre is trying to pass himself off as a real pitcher.
Enough,
I guess what I’m hearing from Singy (ugh) is the emphasis on the second syllable.
For curiosity sake. What has Giambi’s UZR rating been. and what is Tex’s?
“I can’t see any way the Kinsler beaning was intentional.”
Maybe so – but when you are going to constantly crie wolf and accuse every other team of intentionally hitting your guys then you lose all credibility in this category.
They are constantly accusing other teams of intentionally hitting their players while at the same time constantly expecting others to give them the complete benefit of the doubt.
That’s only going to last for so long.
“2009 – Yankees hit by pitch 38, Red Sox hit by pitch 52
Opponents hit by Yankee pitchers 52, and by Red sox pitchers 51″
I would chalk up the high number for the Yankees to wildness. I haven’t seen enough of the S*x games to know how much theirs are due to wildness, but when half the teams in the AL seem to want to brawl with them…
the one thing i will say about mitre that i do like, is he throws strikes, he really does not walk anyone….kind of an Aaron Small clone..
Trish
What concerns me about that play is he’s going to get Jeter or Cano hurt if he keeps doing that. I am willing to bet the coaches work on it.
“Tar, I hear what you’re saying but I think the fact that he blew it twice is what caused him to hesitate. Hopefully the next time he’ll have more confidence.”
He hesitated even more in those two games than he did tonight. I don’t see tonight’s hesitation being caused by anything other than it being the way he fields. Its probably why Teixeira is taking those outs rather than throwing to Mitre. Mitre can’t field his position all that well.
Teixeira never hesitates to throw to other pitchers for plays like that.
CB,
Right on with your 11:42 post.
Spot on. They’ve been doing it for years, and other teams are turning the tables on them and they don’t like it.
i might of spoken too soo..sorry
Mitre stop it.
xyz August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Sergio Meat-tray
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j/k
“Opponents hit by Yankee pitchers 52, and by Red sox pitchers 51″
Year in and year out the red sox lead baseball in hit batters.
This is the first time in several years they aren’t in the lead.
Whoa. Dodgers lose again.
Tex has made a couple of those “I got it” plays just this week alone. It’s not just a Mitre thing.
Tarheel, I think our belief in our boy has been validated. You’d take this from your 5th starter 7 days of the week.
cb 100% right.
time for runs…
Wow, Mitre might just pitch the sixth inning.
So wait, it Mitre an “innings-eater” now? Or do we still need to go get Livan Hernandez?
good game for mitre so far
5 ip on 79 pitches and 2 runs (1 earned) and the 1 earned came on a mile high chopper…well done so far..
Teixeira keeps the ball a lot. He’s not just keeping it because it’s Mitre. It’s just a safe play that keeps the odds of an error to a minimum.
Mitre’s had problems throwing the ball. Not catching it.
Mitre is on a mission!
Sub-6.00 ERA, he we come!
“Tex has made a couple of those “I got it” plays just this week alone. It’s not just a Mitre thing.”
More like those “Yo, I got this man!” plays.
“So wait, it Mitre an “innings-eater” now?”
Sometimes it seems that way, but he’s been known to suffer from Pitchers’ Bulimia.
Toyota poll says that Teixeira’s biggest competition for MVP isn’t Miguel Cabrera. Nor is it Morneau or Mauer. It’s…Kendry Morales?
Something tells me that not enough writers know enough about Morales to even consider him. But I could be wrong.
Has Mitre had any 1-2-3 innings in any of the games he’s thrown this year?
I can’t remember one.
This seattle team has an amazingly awful line up.
Trisha
I think he’s going to get better.
I guess Alyssa Milano didn’t hear there is a pitcher named Meat-tray before she got hitched.
Melky with the pinball play.
“Has Mitre had any 1-2-3 innings in any of the games he’s thrown this year?”
I think he had one against Toronto.
Yeah I’ve been tracking his ERA as well.
And I’ve been a Mitre truther but tonight I’m ridin the bandwagon!
Tex has always refrained from throwing the ball to the pitcher whenever possible. It’s how first basemen are taught at Georgia Tech.
Mitre has done a nice job so far. About all you can ask from a #5 starter.
If he can put up a zero in the 6th, that’s a job well done.
you know…with the way our pitching staff has performed this season, including all our homegrown talent, you gotta give dave eiland a ton of props for the job he’s done this season.
Newton’s Fourth Law: there is no stopping Jose Molina.
“Trisha
I think he’s going to get better.”
Tar – so do I!
Mitre has given up just one ER in five innings.
For a fifth starter, it is a very good performance.
If Yanks hold on to win, the record in games pitched by Mitre will be 4-2.
Obvioulsy Cash and Girardi know what they are doing. Hopefully, Mitre found his groove and will continue to pitch well down the stretch.
Rob B August 15th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
“Has Mitre had any 1-2-3 innings in any of the games he’s thrown this year?”
I think he had one against Toronto.
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Yep, 2nd inning. Strikeout, fly out, strikeout.
CB
August 15th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
This seattle team has an amazingly awful line up.
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You’re just saying that because they have the lowest amount of runs scored in baseball.
Well Mitre is going strong give me 6 and maybe 7?
“Yep, 2nd inning. Strikeout, fly out, strikeout.”
What about THAT, Mr. Fung?
Mitre also pitched two 1-2-3 innings in his first start against Baltimore, the 4th and 5th innings. Against Oakland, in his second start, he had two innings where he only face 3 batters because of DP grounders.
Tex has a put out clause in his contract and the more put outs he gets the better chance at a gold glove
Griffey Jr.: How the hell did I strikeout?
Kuroda got hit in the head with a line drive during that Dodger game. They said he did not lose consciousness and there was no bleeding, but they stabilized him and took him out.
Mitre’s sub 6 ERA?
So close…but yet so far away.
Time to get Meat out of the game
Waiting for the Mitre implosion. It’s required that he leaves the game losing…
I am here.
Who missed me???
Come on, Sergio, it’s down to 6.04, it’s right there for the taking…
The thing with UZR and Tex:
Tex makes great throws, has great range coming in and leaping, makes great scoops, and eats up everything within his general vicinity. He does not have exceptional lateral range (think, most of his great plays are not diving in the hole type or ranging far to his right). He is a very good first baseman, it is just that one particular thing that UZR weighs heavily is not his strongest point. Anyone who looks at UZR as his SOLE defensive metric is stupid. It is a useful stat, but it does not include everything or weigh everything equally, nor does it purport to.
second hit off the plate! UGH!
Geez, Mitre gets no luck.
Johnson better buy a lottery ticket tonight
D-Rob…lets go.
As much as you people like to laugh at Ben Zobrist being an MVP candidate, go look at his numbers. He is one of the best players in the league this year and has played predominantly 2B.
I don’t care if you laugh. I know Zobrist isn’t going to win the award but he deserves consideration
Mariners are having all the luck tonight with those infield singles, aren’t they?
Gotta get him out of there now. He’s tiring. The sinker is going side to side instead of down. That’s why he’s losing the zone.
He’s also had horrible luck with Johnson tonight.
What does GGBG stand for?
Let’s see what DRob’s made of
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
The sub 6 ERA is foiled !
that’s just bad luck..I can’t believe that, Mitre actually pitched well enough for a W.
terrible luck for mitre today…
Sergio “Born Under a Bad Sign” Mitre
If he had no bad luck he would have no luck at all
The cocky grin on Johnson’s face as he walked back to first pretty much made me want to pound the crap out of him. What a jerky-looking guy.
he doesn’t have the location trust right yet
I would think that Girardi would consider today’s outing by Mitre worthy enough to get him another start.
DRob – wow!
drop the hook
Matt K.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:03 am
What does GGBG stand for?
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Gritty Gutty Brett Gardner
Bad Pitchers attract bad luck
If there was one thing I wish I could change about the Yankees it would be adding a reliever to the bullpen that gets groundballs.
Hughes, Robertson, Bruney, Coke are all flyball/strikeout pitchers, and often throw a lot of pitchers per AB.
“Tex makes great throws, has great range coming in and leaping, makes great scoops, and eats up everything within his general vicinity. He does not have exceptional lateral range”
Really? Then why was his Range related component in UZR close to 10 last year?
Random chance?
And why has there been such a discrepancy between what +/- has had to say about his defense and UZR?
Girardi can never seem to know when to pull his suck starters, first with Rasner last year and now this chump. You get 5 decent innings take it and run, don’t gamble and send him out for the 6th. If we lose it’s on Girardi not Mitre.
He did a decent job tonight. Still too many walks nut, he also had some bad luck.
For a #5 starter, it’s a passing grade for Mitre tonight.
Now Mitre knows how Gatsby felt, staring at the green light in the distance.
What does “GGBG” stand for?
nvm
One more, D-Rob!
Nice K
Way to go on the first out. Lets get it goin DROB!
please don’t tell me Coke is gonna come in here…..
c’mon D-Ro
dang, robertson now up to 94…
Robertson is wicked tonight!!! I love it
Robertson looks like he should be working at Kinko’s, but damn can he pitch.
“He did a decent job tonight. Still too many walks nut, he also had some bad luck.
For a #5 starter, it’s a passing grade for Mitre tonight.”
Absolutely. We have to acknowledge that Girardi knew what he was doing when he tapped him for this start.
Mitre allowed 10 base runners tonight.
And that was against one of the worst hitting teams in baseball.
And the only thing that is going to make this a decent outing for him will be some fantastic pitching by Dave Robertson.
+/- and UZR calculate defense differently, which is why there is a discrepancy- different factes of defense are weighed differently. I am not well versed enough in =/- to make specific points on the difference. In regard to lateral range, why is it hard to believe that he has not been great on lateral range this year but was last year? Defense can fluctuate from year to year like offense. Also, maybe he plays closer to the bag because he trusts Cano. I just dont get the whole “UZR doesnt agree with my eyes regarding this one player, so the whole stat is wrong” meme that has developed.
Whoa. That was BIG.
yeah baby…ROBERTSON!!!
LOVE THE UMP!!!!!!!
DAMN THAT WAS SEXY!
nice job d-rob!
What a punch out.
Whew……..I think Robertson got lucky there.wow!
WOWEE!
Langerhans was on his way to first base!
wooooo that was close
WOW. What a job by D-Rob.
wow what a bad call, CB Bucknor stinks thank god
thank you, C.B. Bucknor. No one calls the low strike anymore.
THAT was a strike!?!?
I’ll take it, but good God, what a terrible call.
thanks ump
Make up pitch from the previous one. Thanks CB Buckner.
matt, erica answered your question: gritty, gutty brett gardner.
Erica
I missed you. Where did you go.
Wow that looked low… DRob got away with one there…
I hate HATE CB Bucknor
Like the call, even though it was obviously a ball but I hate the dramatics. What a loser, umps are supposed to be invisible. Bucknor tries to make the story about himself.
That last pitch was a little more than questionable, but, happy to see it called.
That was one of the worst calls I’ve seen. Still, thanks C.B.!
Thank you Jose Molina…Jorge, take notes…better yet, take a seat and watch a real catcher work the plate!!
that was a terrible call by the ump there..but hey, good job d-rob
>Mitre allowed 10 base runners tonight.
Is that counting Cano’s error and Johnson’s chopped infield fly?
My new name for Robertson,Lil MO.
anyone got gameday was it a low knee high strike or not?
either way that’s too close to take w/ basesloaded.
Whew !!!!! That was big.
Not for the Yanks. They’re fine.
But for Mitrte’s ERA !
I just don’t think it would have survived another run.
Nice reference Nick!
It was almost time to break out our old friend.
too close to take check it out…………
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....eamlb_1%2F
it was about 2″ low:
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....v_size=500
Stop with the moronic Girardi bashing. You sound like an idiot. You always try to get 6 from a starter and the Mariners didn’t hit 2 balls hard all night.
Great job by Robertson. Molina stole that pitch.
YankeeRay thats the CB we know. He’s actually has been decent all game.
That was a ball but who cares…CB has screwed over the Yanks before, just some payback.
Bad call or not, it looks like Mr. Robertson is officially in the Circle of Trust.
Which is great, because he is an incredible strikeout pitcher. Walks were his only problem.
Seems like the kid is getting it.
way to go dave
just beat me, Jonas
*shakes fist
lol that first pitch by new pitcher wasn’t mush worse than the k y Drob
“Mitre allowed 10 base runners tonight.
And that was against one of the worst hitting teams in baseball.
And the only thing that is going to make this a decent outing for him will be some fantastic pitching by Dave Robertson.”
IMO this is all about the fact that you decided last week that Mitre was out of the rotation.
Other Yankee pitchers have allowed 10 runners on base. As just about everyone else here has said, Mitre had a little bad luck there. He certainly pitched well enough to continue as a 5th starter. That’s my opinion. We’ll see if Girardi agrees with that.
I told you Robertson could pitch if he got regular work.
CB Bucknor is like a weather man. He still has a job even though it seems like he’s always wrong.
To be fair, the call that made it 3-2 (or was it 2-2?) was a strike……..That was good pitching by Robertson, though – he mostly was very precise. Singleton seemed surprised at the change on 2-2 count…..me, too.
I’m not as high on Coke.
I just got a “woa you are posting too quick, slow down” anyone ever get one of those?
Thanks Jonas, way too close to take.
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 12:17 am
I’m not as high on Coke.
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Post of the night
The coldest winter Mitre ever spent was a summer start in Seattle.
YankeeRay
heh
“I just dont get the whole “UZR doesnt agree with my eyes regarding this one player, so the whole stat is wrong” meme that has developed”
I never said anything with regards to any of the above points you just made.
I never brought up that “meme” in the first place. Nor did I in anyway call into question the “whole” stat.
You did. If you are going to jump to conclusions that’s on you.
I called into question your assertion that Tex doesn’t have good lateral range.
I disagree with that. And I base that disagreement on what the data says and based on what I’ve seen.
Tarheelyank
August 16th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Erica
I missed you. Where did you go.
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Awww.. Thanks. I was at the beach all day and then I went straight to a party. Very tough day in the office
YankeeRay
August 16th, 2009 at 12:18 am
I just got a “woa you are posting too quick, slow down” anyone ever get one of those?
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Me! Me!!
But I do tend to post a lot
He’s a #5 starter that is start to start. You take an outing like this and hope he can build on it.
His problem are walks. That gets his pitch counts up, and shortens his outings.
Incremental improvement and that’s probably all we can expect from him.
woo hoo!
At least three of Mitre’s baserunners were cheap. 2 infield hits and one seeing-eye single. Then there was the Cano “error”. I agree with the announcers. This was by far his best start and not a bad one at that… but I do thank God that Robertson was on fire… and got that last call.
We need a tack on run.
A few more runs would be nice……
You think they hate A-bomb out there in seatle?
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 12:21 am
We need a tack on run.
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Is 2 more runs than the opposing team considered insurance?
Then 3+ is considered tack on???
Or could the third run be also considered insurance?
Mitre did a good job tonight. 1st run was unlucky with the bouncer Cano couldn’t handle. Even if Ichiro would have beaten it out, it was still played into a double. Then maybe you have a double play, or at the very least the sac fly is meaningless.
Then he got unlucky with a couple of bouncers off the plate, one of which led to the other run.
No, he didn’t dominate a weak line-up. But he pitched like he was supposed to pitch, generated ground balls, avoided “big” innings and kept damage to a minimum.
Robertson throws strikes but the pitch was definitely ball four.
Not to mention Robertson is known for having poor control
Jorge would be a lot faster down the line if he didn’t have that Steinway on his back.
I’d pay to see him and Mike Slowell in a foot race.
Erica – always OPPC
That’s a little too esoteric for me. I just want more runs.
“He’s a #5 starter that is start to start. You take an outing like this and hope he can build on it.”
I think that makes sense. I think he certainly built on last time’s start. I did think, FWIW, that if he had a dismal outing he probably wasn’t going to see any more starts, or at least nothing for a while. So I think tonight definitely bought him some good will and hopefully a little more confidence to add to his resume.
Bad job by Jorge. Work a count and don’t swing at the first sinker you see. Got himself out in that AB.
CB, I never said that you did. I made my initial response due to a few comments to the effect of that meme.
Let me ask you something, CB. What data says he has good lateral range, at least this season? I know what your eyes have seen, but as you know, there are stringers who watch every play and “rate” the range. So why do you think he is not grading out very well?
Whoa, a lot of blows to the head in MLB today.
Good lord.. 3 people got hit in the head today thats insane
Jorge is getting schooled by the backup!
So I appreciate Tex and everything he does but I don’t think he has a shot to be the MVP with his numbers right now. Mainly because it’s all about numbers and not what the award says it is. I mean A-rod won it on a last place team, if he wasn’t there they would have still been last. This award has really lost its luster in the past decade.
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Erica – always OPPC
That’s a little too esoteric for me. I just want more runs
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haha. Being ridiculously tired brings out the philospher in me
Sigh,Posada and his double plays.
Girardi showing confidence in DRob by having him pitch to Ichiro. I like it.
Wasn’t Tex the best fielding 1B according to +/- last year? I trust the fielding bible more than zone rating anyways..
seattle with these luck hits today
He was suppose to be out.
Surely that’s a fake SJ44, cantbelieve the real SJ would be complaining about a borderline HOF at bats.
No pitcher handles Ichiro like CC.
Ichiro can thank CB for that base hit. Had him struck out and didn’t get the call.
Now, he won’t call any strikes. He’s an awful umpire.
Robertson’s been throwing great. But though that pitch was called a strike I would have liked him to be more aggressive and not try to be that fine 3-2 on the #9 hitter with the bases loaded and Ichiro on deck.
That was a coin flip call by an umpire who is very hard to predict.
Last night on 3-2 with men on base Hughes stopped playing around and just threw the ball and said try to hit it. I would have liked Robertson to show more confidence in his stuff in that spot.
On the whole his control has been so much better and his fastball has shown a lot more life.
I’m still a little nauseous from that “Ichi-roll” thing at the start of the game.
That was AWFUL.
CB is terrible tonight. Very, VERY erratic with his zone.
You never fail me Nick.
Mitre is like the Mona Lisa smile of pitchers.
Teixeira’s biggest rivals for the MVP as of right now will be Morales and Abreu from the Angels, Jeter, Mauer and probably Cabrera of the Tigers.
I don’t care if he is a HOF or not. That was strike 3 and it saved his AB.
that fastball has some hard movement , it saids 92 mph but I don’t believe it.
Believe it or not, this has been a good game for CB. He really is terrible.
I missed the whole beginning of the game. Sorry if this was already discussed, but was there a reason given for MPB Johnny Damon being held out of the line up tonight?
fat pitch on 0-2.
Uh oh, Coke’s coming in. I like him, but I don’t like the HRs he gives up.
Show me something, Coke.
Lousy offense or not, Yanks need to tack on a few more. They are letting SEA hang around & one mistake will change the game.
Erica
I heard Joe knew you were busy tonight, so he planned accordingly.
Erica, Girardi was informed that you had better things to do so he decided that tonight would be a good game to rest JD.
Bad pitch at 0-2. Molina wanted the fastball away, and he threw it to Lopez’s happy zone. Gotta go to Coke now.
Now, it gets dicey, given Coke’s penchant for giving up HR’s.
Hey guys here’s a thought. If matsui were to goto another team after his contract is up, his jersey would read hideki. Just like ichiro suzuki has his first name on his. I just found that interesting.
Erica – always OPPC
August 16th, 2009 at 12:31 am
I missed the whole beginning of the game. Sorry if this was already discussed, but was there a reason given for MPB Johnny Damon being held out of the line up tonight?
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Flaherty said that he flew back to the East Coast. Reports are that he met some cutie on the internet and they had a date for the beach and a party afterwards.
Don’t act so innocent, Erica. Nobody’s fooled.
Erica is a little startled that Tarheelyank and Nick in SF appear to be sharing thoughts…..
But yes, that must be it
Handedness aside, I would prefer having Melancon on the roster than Coke.
“I missed the whole beginning of the game. Sorry if this was already discussed, but was there a reason given for MPB Johnny Damon being held out of the line up tonight?”
Shomer Shabbos !
Well there’s that and the fact that I’m in Seattle.
We’re meeting Kate and Alex for midnight mojito’s in the space needle.
How the hell are you going to vote for a Player of the Game in the 7th inning???
That’s like playing an all-star game in the middle of the season.
Wait, what?
“Flaherty said that he flew back to the East Coast. Reports are that he met some cutie on the internet and they had a date for the beach and a party afterwards.
Don’t act so innocent, Erica. Nobody’s fooled.”
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Crap. Here I thought I was doing so well. It must be the butterfly raincoat that piqued his interest
Got away with that fastball at 1-1.
That works for me.
Is Russell Branyan really so particularly amazing that they play the music from “The Natural” when he comes to the plate?
Erica – always OPPC
August 16th, 2009 at 12:36 am
“Flaherty said that he flew back to the East Coast. Reports are that he met some cutie on the internet and they had a date for the beach and a party afterwards.
Don’t act so innocent, Erica. Nobody’s fooled.”
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Crap. Here I thought I was doing so well. It must be the butterfly raincoat that piqued his interest
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Either that raincoat ot what wasn’t underneath it.
Regardless what happens the rest of this inning the offense needs to tack on a couple.
Had a chance last inning but Posada wasn’t interested in being at the plate long.
Threw a much better FB at 1-2. 94 MPH, with movement.
He has to forget about Ichiro and concentrate on Branyan.
I almost think Tex will get the MVP by default.
The Angels have Morales AND Abreu that will likely take votes away from each other. And that’s not to mention Torii Hunter, who was their best hitter before he got hurt.
The Twins have Mauer AND Morneau, and I don’t think it would be fair to crown one of them MVP alone. Mauer has a ridiculous BA but Morneau is leading the league in RBI with 28 HR and a .300 avg. Those two will probably take votes away from each other as well.
No one on the Red Sox, Tigers, or White Sox is having a better year than Teixeira. And Teixeira is clearly the Yankees’ best hitter this year, so he won’t have that much competition from his own team.
Russel Branyan is either going to hit one to the moon or spin himself into the ground like a tunnel boring machine.
*Russell
Dead!
AWESOME!!!!!!!!! HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHE PLAY!!!!!!
Molina with the gun!
He’s having a fantastic game.
YOU DON’T RUN ON MOLINA!
ahahhaaaa we got Ichiro!
Hall of Infamy play by Ichiro there.
What a dumb play by Ichiro!
Killed his team with that move.
SJ44
He has to forget about Ichiro and concentrate on Branyan.
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Yeah, let Molina do the worrying…
What in God’s name was Ichiro doing? He must have missed a sign, because that made no sense whatsoever.
WOW!!!! What a boneheaded play by Suzuki.
what an amazingly stupid decision by ichiro
What was the point in that?
Thank you Ichiro.
WHOA!!!!!
Show me another catcher who throws out Ichiro EVER!!!!
JOSE YOU CAN SEE!!!!
You don’t have to bother telling me about any other catchers who may have thrown out Ichiro, if they have. It was just to make a point.
Why steal there? Not smart
Stupid play by Ichiro
Never make the 3rd out at 3B
But I’ll take it
Did Ichiro just mistake Molina for Varitek behind the plate? Molina is just so much fun to watch behind the plate…
You never want to make the first or third out at third base. Baseball 101
Again, it’s too bad Girardi had the nerve to rest his starters and not play his “A” line-up against the Mariners.
Jose Molina is only 2-3 with a run scored, an RBI and a possible game-saving throw.
Granted I don’t know the back up catcher on every time but I can’t imagine any team has a better defensive back up catcher than we do.
Man, you’d have to think there’s a blogger out there right now typing away, needling Ichiro the way Pete here’s always needling (insert name of Yankee who is struggling).
One of the dumbest plays of the year, hopefully it contributes to a W.
A few tack on runs please
Donnie – Will Meet Kenji Jojihima Under the O’Neill Banner
August 16th, 2009 at 12:40 am
What in God’s name was Ichiro doing? He must have missed a sign, because that made no sense whatsoever.
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What possible sign do you have with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs and a 2-0 count on your slugger? He screwed up…plain and simple.
Girardi can now have Coke face Branyan and Hanahan in the 8th, and then go to Aceves.
Ichiro changed the entire way Girardi can play the 8th inning.
posada, sitting on the bench dreaming he was half the defensive player molina is…yeah, molina dreams bout hitting like posada but ill take the defense over the offense any day!
Yeah, Varitek would’ve made that play
LMAO
“Jose Molina is only 2-3 with a run scored, an RBI and a possible game-saving throw.”
Molina is incredible. And so steady.
I wonder if Hughes is available if Coke gets into trouble. Girardi said he wanted to stay away from him today.
“posada, sitting on the bench dreaming he was half the defensive player molina is…yeah, molina dreams bout hitting like posada but ill take the defense over the offense any day!”
Yeah, if only Posada could play defense and call a game, imagine how good they could be playing since being 15-17.
Molina seems to come through at the right times. He has a weird knack for that.
He also hit the historic final homerun at Old Yankee Stadium. Who would have predicted that in the pool?
Maybe Gaudin or Melancon?
Wow Mac Daddy you r really not that intelligent
The Melkman under .270…. he is what he is
The Mariners have a good bullpen. Some real nice arms out there.
Melky also needs a day off. Hopefully tomorrow. The AB’s haven’t been pretty lately.
If we get the top of our order up again, they will do some damage against this bullpen…
Aceves is in line, I would think, to pitch the eighth when they pull Coke.
Molina’s having a great game. Yanks should try to resign him and start playing Posada at DH more often next season, but Jorge is probably too stubborn to let that happen…
That Avis commercial never gets old.
Lots of talk about whether Damon and/or Matsui will be back.
What about Molina?
Doesn’t seem like there’s much room for him next year with Cervelli and Montero waiting in the wings.
I’ll be sad to see him go.
Yankees have been shut down,since the second inning!
They are more of a threat TO GET ON BASE than the Yankees.
Geesh!
Tomorrow should definitely be Melkys day off…
He’s tired. That’s not, “is what he is”.
He’s having a very good year and needs a day.
No big deal.
“What data says he has good lateral range, at least this season?”
Relative zone rating and zone rating. I don’t discount these in any way.
And just as importantly +/- and UZR from last year.
I don’t believe that defensive skill sets should innately vary greatly from season to season too much outside of injury and non-linear decrements in performance due to age. So when I see wild swings in data from one year to another I work on the principle that there are external issues in the data and/or the metric.
“know what your eyes have seen, but as you know, there are stringers who watch every play and “rate” the range. So why do you think he is not grading out very well?”
What is the kappa statistic for those stringers? I’m not aware that this vital data is publicly available.
And the main reason why I think Tex’s UZR range data is so odd this year is likely due to Chin Ming Wang ( and to a lesser extent the awful yankee bull pen pitching to start the season).
Relatively few plays can create wild swings in UZR range data particularly middle season data for a 1b.
Batted balls off Wang were hit with a disproportionate amount of velocity this year. One pitch after antother was smoked. My hunch is that while many of these balls by baseling UZR evaluation methods may have been positioned as fieldable in zone chances they effectively weren’t due to the velocity of the pitch.
And part of the reason why I think this is that Cano’s UZR is also puzzling.
That’s my sense.
But until I know the kappa for the stringers I don’t feel like I have adequate information to assess the validity and consistency of their observations.
Where is that pitch? God CB is awful back there.
Good thing Branyan swung at the next pitch or CB would called it a ball.
This would really be big if Coke can get the lefties out here…
Melky is not going to be a star, but he is a very interesting role player…Nice arm, is playing hard this year, nice hits late in the game…We are lucky to have him.
Melky needs more peanuts.
Great job by Coke
Great outing by Phil Coke
SJ44
August 16th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Where is that pitch? God CB is awful back there.
Good thing Branyan swung at the next pitch or CB would called it a ball.
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It’s not easy to call a good game AND comment thoroughly on Tex’s UZR rating at the same time.
“That Avis commercial never gets old.”
I wonder if they an opposing version that plays in Boston.
“Hey how ya doin? Youse guys ready to rent sum freakin caws?”
Odd question-
Last week there were YES promos for a George Steinbrenner Yankeeography. I haven’t noticed any promos the last few games and I can’t seem to find it on the YES network schedule. Does anyone know when it will be on? or has it been cancelled for some reason
2 K’s and a point. GJ Coke!
Great job by Phil Coke. 8-9-1 for Mo in the 9th.
P H I L, baby doing his job!!
Why can’t Coke pitch like that on a consistent basis?
How much more moronic complaining about the umpire do we have to endure tonight? get over it.
Mo gets the bottom 2 in the order and Ichiro…
Who are they going to bring up when the rosters expand September 1st? Anyone have any thoughts on who is a maybe/likely?
Steinbrenner’s Yankeeography is August 21st @11:00 PM.
Swisher’s HR is the difference in the game.
Interestingly enough, all 4 of the Yankees’ runs were unearned for Seattle.
Ichiro saved Girardi from having to use another pitcher with that baserunning blunder.
That means Ace can back up Joba tomorrow.
Thanks Ichiro.
Cuz Coke gets used more often than Scot Proctor
Also, I love Texas dominating The RoidSox
I’d leave Coke in there for the 9th. No need to push Mariano
Jeter!
DEREKKKK JETERRRRR, he’s tellin Tex I want that MVP!
Jetes with insurance!
jet stream
Oh Captain, My Captain.
The Captain with a New Yankee Stadium chea- nevermind.
Mo might sit down soon
Jeter must have corked his biceps before leaving NY.
Woohoo..Some more insurance from the captain…
The Captain is amazing.
Jeter’s got some power here in Safco.
another Jeter HR? is Safeco a bandbox too?? lol.
wowza jetes! Hitting homeruns outside the bandox? cant be.
those jetstreams in Seattle sure are strong. Ichi looked like he gave up on that one.
And Jeter hits another cheapie homer to right field.
Oh, wait. This isn’t Yankee Stadium?
yada yada yada
August 16th, 2009 at 12:55 am
Steinbrenner’s Yankeeography is August 21st @11:00 PM.
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That was what I thought, but according to Yesnetwork.com they are showing the Bill Russell Centerstage at that time. They appear to have pushed it back to 9/2 at 11. Very strange
Anybody notice that before that last fly out, the previous eight outs recorded by Yankees pitchers were ALL strikeouts (with one totally egregious caught stealing in there too)…
C A P T A I N Jeter delivers again!
How many more moronic complaints are you going to have about Girardi?
Who are you, CB Buckner’s mommy?
player of the game: Ichiro Suzuki.
It’s weird that Boston’s throw away is Seattle’s closer…
If anyone deserves AL executive of the year it’s Brian Cashman, he made all the right moves to provide us with great depth and good players off the bench, trading betemit for Swisher, getting Hairson who has been awesome, bringing back Jose Molina, and trading for Hinske, even Gaudan was a pleasant surprise.
That wind tunnel out in RF is just making Jeter’s year. He’s so lucky he plays in the whiffle ball stadium.
The yankees now once again lead all of baseball in most home runs hit on the road.
DC Yanks
August 16th, 2009 at 12:56 am
I’d leave Coke in there for the 9th. No need to push Mariano
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They aren’t pitching Coke in the 9th. It’s Rivera with a 3 run lead or Gaudin with a 4+ lead.
“Who are they going to bring up when the rosters expand September 1st? Anyone have any thoughts on who is a maybe/likely?”
Shelley Duncan will be called up.
Austin Jackson, most likely.
Melancon, definitely, if he isn’t back up already.
Some guy named Marte might make an appearance.
Not a jet-stream. It’s a Jete-stream.
That’s now 8 guys with at least 15 HRs – Melky with 11.
That’s just….ridiculous
that is odd, Erica.
I have to admit, I have never watched a single Centerstage. Hopefully I don’t get Yankee fan demerits for that.
Cervelli will be back up too.
I’m not sure Marte is healthy enough.
The AL MVP almost got that one.
“Why can’t Coke pitch like that on a consistent basis?”
Because he’s not always going to face the Mariners hitters? Lol.
pat August 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Not a jet-stream. It’s a Jete-stream.
Rob B
August 16th, 2009 at 12:59 am
“Who are they going to bring up when the rosters expand September 1st? Anyone have any thoughts on who is a maybe/likely?”
Shelley Duncan will be called up.
Austin Jackson, most likely.
Melancon, definitely, if he isn’t back up already.
Some guy named Marte might make an appearance.
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Don’t forget Cervelli
NYY626 August 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am
pat August 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Not a jet-stream. It’s a Jete-stream.
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i like this. Kinda sterling-esque
I’d think we’ll see Shelly, AJAX, Cervelli, Melancon, Girardi’s boytoy Ransom and some others, maybe Edwar and Alabaladejo
Uke
Cash’s best move was to convince Hal that Teix was a necessity.
Maybe also Cervelli and Gardner will be back? Or is Gardner due back earlier?
yada yada yada
August 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am
that is odd, Erica.
I have to admit, I have never watched a single Centerstage. Hopefully I don’t get Yankee fan demerits for that.
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I have seen Centerstange a few times, but usually only if I care about the interviewee. I really liked the Paul Simon one.
I do enjoy Yankeeographies though a lot.
Ransom isn’t on the 40 man, thankfully.
I hope he brings in Mo. Hughes can close tomorrow. Gaudin scares me with only a 3 run lead.
A Yankees wives/girlfriends Centerstage and I am there.
3 Mo Rivera outs away from the machine completing another victory.
Winning just never gets old.
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Uke
Cash’s best move was to convince Hal that Teix was a necessity.
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Put Tex in a Red Sox jersey and Swisher at first for the yankees, and we’re currently in 2nd place, easily.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 16th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Maybe also Cervelli and Gardner will be back? Or is Gardner due back earlier?
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Not sure how his thumb is doing. But I would be shocked if he came back before Sept 1st. Why make unnecessary roster moves?
I guess Mo’s okay but I wish he didn’t go back to back after complaining about a cranky shoulder.
The 1998 Yankeeography could play on a continual loop and I would not turn it off.
For whatever reason, John Sterling was made to do Yankeeographies (sp?).
Do they usually just take Scranton players or do they pull them from AA and Single A? I can’t say I’ve really paid complete attention to roster expansion additions in previous seasons, but we have a few exciting players in the minors that I’m paying more attention these days.
The Molina’s were seriously all born to be catchers.
It’s so fun watching Molina catch. He frames pitches beautifully and has that cannon as well.
M’s hitters are helpless.
He wouldn’t be pitching if his shoulder wasn’t right.
As long as Mo doesn’t pitch four out saves until the playoffs, I’m fine with how they use him.
The Mariners swing and miss a ton…
I thought that Coke’s struggles were because of NYS, then I looked at the stats and he has a 2.45 ERA at home and an 8.68 ERA on the road (obviously inflated by the Chi Sox game but it would still be over 7)
Donnie – Will Meet Kenji Jojihima Under the O’Neill Banner
August 16th, 2009 at 12:40 am
What in God’s name was Ichiro doing? He must have missed a sign, because that made no sense whatsoever.
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What possible sign do you have with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs and a 2-0 count on your slugger? He screwed up…plain and simple.
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Perhaps…the sign came from God? I dunno, and it doesn’t matter, because bottom line, that was an abysmal move.
I *thought* they’d said two more weeks the other day, Erica – which would bring him back around about the time the rosters expand. But I mishear and misremember things all the time, lol.
CB is terrible. Just soooo inconsistent..
Buckner hasn’t been calling that pitch all day.
CB :/
I’d like to see CB shot right after the game, on the pitchers mound, execution style.
Buckner should be fired. He is an absolute joke.
My turn to complain about the strike zone.
# Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing August 16th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Do they usually just take Scranton players or do they pull them from AA and Single A? I can’t say I’ve really paid complete attention to roster expansion additions in previous seasons, but we have a few exciting players in the minors that I’m paying more attention these days.
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Anybody on the 40 man can be brought up.
CB Suckner
yada yada yada
August 16th, 2009 at 1:04 am
The 1998 Yankeeography could play on a continual loop and I would not turn it off.
For whatever reason, John Sterling was made to do Yankeeographies (sp?).
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When I watch the 1996 Yankeeography, my heart still pounds during the WS Game 6 coverage like it was October 26, 1996 all over again
Need a DP.
Are they shouting Yankees suck? Cause… just saying, but the Yankees have already won two games already, so its kinda pointless shouting that, lol.
C.B. uses a Magic 8 Ball to call balls and strikes.
“Magic 8 Ball, was that a strike?”
“All signs point to ‘no’”.
“Ball!”
Mo shakey tonight…
Why does Posada call so many balls?
Oh, thanks Rob.
I figured that, just didn’t want to assume.
“I thought that Coke’s struggles were because of NYS, then I looked at the stats and he has a 2.45 ERA at home and an 8.68 ERA on the road (obviously inflated by the Chi Sox game but it would still be over 7)”
He also had a horrendous outing against the Angels during that sweep in Anaheim. He came in for mop-up relief and gave up like 5 or 6 runs in less than an inning.
Mo has been due for one of these for a while. Let’s see if he can limit the damage.
I hope Mo is ok. He doesn’t have a lot on his pitches. His velocity is down, and bad location and movement.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 16th, 2009 at 1:06 am
I *thought* they’d said two more weeks the other day, Erica – which would bring him back around about the time the rosters expand. But I mishear and misremember things all the time, lol.
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You are like Andy Pettitte!!!! LOL
I would really imagine at this point in the season they would just wait until Sept to activate him. Why needlessly send someone down when the rosters will be expanding in a few days anyway
BEN, posoda isn’t catching, posoda hater.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 16th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Are they shouting Yankees suck? Cause… just saying, but the Yankees have already won two games already, so its kinda pointless shouting that, lol.
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Not to mention the whole best record in baseball thing
Mo’s OK. But he is almost 40.
That’s what happens when you have an incompetent behind the plate. Instead of 2 outs, nobody on, Ichiro at the plate, you now have the tying run at the plate.
CB Buckner is a very, very bad umpire.
Come on Mo, 1 more out!!!
This game has gotten on my nerves.
Mo is fine… people worrying too much, the game should already be over if CB cared about his job.
Mo.
Mo’s shaky outings still get the job done easily.
EY
August 16th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Mo shakey tonight…
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Why, because he got cheated out of a K and then gave up a single to one of the best hitters in the league?
Come on.
7.5 up.
I hate when CB Buckner is behind the plate.
I feel like my handle is under constant assault and for good reason!!!!
In Mo We Trust.
+7.5 baby!!
Magic Number= 39
Woohoo…Thank you Ichiro for making a bone headed move before and trying to steal 3rd…
7.5
7.5 games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same old Mo. Just trying to make it exciting I see.
7.5 games up, get your shovels out, we’re burying them
LOL actually think it was Roger Clemens who said the misremember. Thank goodness you didnt say I was like him.. i’d have to smack ya for that.
Plus it can’t hurt to give GGBG a few extra days to be really ready to go.
7.5 game lead are we eliminated yet?
7.5
I know the trip isn’t over, but all I heard from the so-called experts was that these west coast trips would be the end of the Yankees. Yes, the travel is tough, but it’s not like the 1995-2001 Mariners were magically going to show up.
This teams seems to be on one ridiculous winning streak since the all star break. Just amazing.
Mo’s stuff was better than last night. He was fine. CB just cost him some pitches. He’s fine.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
August 16th, 2009 at 1:11 am
LOL actually think it was Roger Clemens who said the misremember. Thank goodness you didnt say I was like him.. i’d have to smack ya for that.
Plus it can’t hurt to give GGBG a few extra days to be really ready to go.
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Roger said that Andy misremembered. So you and Andy are both misrememberers. LOL
Only two and a half months of the season to go.
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Mo’s OK. But he is almost 40.
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“OK”? That’s a major league leading 31 saves in a row. He’s still the best in baseball.
Understatement of the Night candidate.
“I hate when CB Buckner is behind the plate.
I feel like my handle is under constant assault and for good reason!!!!”
CB, you blindfolded could do a better job umpiring than your namesake.
Yankee are 7.5 games up.
Joba is going tomorrow and the Mariners are a horrendous hitting team.
They can’t make any contact at all.
If Joba has his good stuff how many guys might he K?
And tomorrow the Sox have Tazawa pitching in Arlington while the Rangers have Nippert going.
Penny was terrible for them once again.
Sure the Rangers blew the game yesterday but Lester was pitching – the rangers weren’t supposed to win that game.
It’ll be interesting to see how Tazawa does.
Calculator Day at The Stadium? Perfect for figuring out the magic number.
Joe I
August 16th, 2009 at 1:12 am
I know the trip isn’t over, but all I heard from the so-called experts was that these west coast trips would be the end of the Yankees. Yes, the travel is tough, but it’s not like the 1995-2001 Mariners were magically going to show up.
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I still hate the 1995 Mariners
LOL
Swishy: Hey I tried the right field pole the other night and missed so tonight I tried the left.
Please make Gordon Damer the postgame desk reporter, srsly don’t waste him on the field as Kim Jones’ caddy.
Good thing Texas didn’t use Francisco to close again tonight…
Swisher’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6419414305a88ea8/
CB
August 16th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I hate when CB Buckner is behind the plate.
I feel like my handle is under constant assault and for good reason!!!!
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LOL. I was actually wondering what it was you’d said when people were being disparaging towards “CB”
yada yada yada
August 16th, 2009 at 1:14 am
Calculator Day at The Stadium? Perfect for figuring out the magic number.
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I am such a dork. I really want one. Definitely will have to check out ebay
By the way, Angel. Charmaine misses you over at YFU. You know, her being the only female and all.
Frank Francisco is “shakey”.
Mariano Rivera isn’t shakey.
Next stop 40 games over .500
taking the audio over to the new thread
Richie
August 16th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Mo’s OK. But he is almost 40.
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Okay??????? As Pete said earlier today, Mo has converted 103 saves in 107 chances since the beginning of 2007. Can you find any other closer in baseball with that percentage????
Hey b a w s t i n 7.5 read it and weep!!
SJ44 August 16th, 2009 at 1:15 am
“Frank Francisco is “shakey”.”
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Shakey’s lawyer just called. You’re being sued for slander.
Roger said that Andy misremembered. So you and Andy are both misrememberers. LOL
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Oh well, as long as I’m being likened to Andy and not Roger, then I’ll keep on misremembering and be happy about it.
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“Not to mention the whole best record in baseball thing”
Also not to mention the whole 3 out of 3 with one more game to play tomorrow thing.
Ohhh thats YOU, Rob? Hiya!! I’ll stick my head over there.. I assume considering all things are 31 games over 500 kind of good in Yankeeland that its safe to stick my head back in there? LOL
The whole anti-Girardi thing got a bit much for me and I had to step back. It was sucking the fun out of being there.
Did you see the name RDM on here, Rob? Its our old friend Russ/Sam from Blogging the Bombers. I was hoping a bridge had fallen on that troll. No such luck apparently.
“I hate when CB Buckner is behind the plate.
I feel like my handle is under constant assault and for good reason!!!!”
Yeah for a while I thought some people were just making a piss-poor analogy to object to some of your comments.
Next time we catch that guy, you might consider putting out a notice.
accuscore predicted it correctly on the Yakees WIN and the RS loss.Bawhahahah!!
I hear ya, Angel. It certainly became pretty gloomy there for a while.
To tell you the truth, it’s been kind of dead there. That’s part of the reason I started posting here.
I dont get the ripping on Francisco. He stunk last night, but he has had a great year. 28 out of 33 scoreless outings, 16 of 19 saves, WHIP of 1.09, more than a K an inning.
The RS went home and mommy(their fan base)wiped their tears,and spoke ill of the bullies(The Big Bad Yankees.)
She cleaned their wounds,which made them feel special.
Mommy then sent them back out to fall further behind than when they came home.Hehehe!! Poor RS babies still under performing away from home.
Haha the music’s so loud in the clubhouse.
By the way the Yankees have won the series as of today,they put the icing on the cake tomorrow!! Go Joba.
Jeter was great tonight.