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Locking it down

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 15, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have a good stat in their notes I wanted to mention.

Remember when Mariano Rivera blew his first two saves in 2007? He has converted 103 of his 107 chances since then. The save is sort of a contrived statistic and often is meaningless. But still, that is pretty impressive.

Meanwhile, don’t be surprised if Jerry Hairston Jr. gets a start in center field today or tomorrow. Joe Girardi said he wants to give Melky Cabrera (6 of his last 44) a night off. With Brett Gardner not due back for another two weeks or so, Hairston would be the man.

Hairston started three games in center for the Reds this season and has been out there 117 times in his career. “It’s actually easier than left or right,” he said. “The angles are easier.”

Girardi was referring to Hairston as “Junior” during his post-game press conference on Thursday night and the Seattle reporters in the room were mightily confused. There is only one “Junior” in Seattle and it’s certainly not Jerry Hairston.

OK, back at 6 p.m, with the game post. Beautiful day here in Seattle and lots of Yankees fans out and about.

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72 Responses to “Locking it down”

  1. stuart August 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    going on a vacation with the family be back in 8 days. hope the yanks keep it up.

    if mitre is a disaster tonight they may make a change…..

  2. you gotta have faith (aceves, you da man!) August 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    wow, mo is amazing! but we all knew that already ;)

  3. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and proud co-adopter of the Washington Nats August 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    OT – just switched over from DirectTv to Verizon. I bundled all my services with Verizon. They now have the YES network so I thought it was worth it. I am giving up some NY Stations, plus national CBS television. I hope I don’t end up regretting it. Obviously they offered me better than I had been getting with my services bundled with Cox. It isn’t that I worry about, it’s no longer having DirectTv. I hope I made the right decision.

  4. Rambowels August 15th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    jeter ss
    damon lf
    tex 1b
    Arod 3b
    Matsui dh
    Po c
    Cano 2b
    Swisher
    Melky

  5. miggs August 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Trish I’ve had both DirecTV and cable over the past 2 years.

    I like the cable because I bundle in the cable modem and phone.

    With direcTV I had DSL through the phone company, which was not nearly as good as the cable modem.

    The only thing I miss about DirecTV is they have exclusive rights to the NFL package. Being a huge football fan its tough not to get all the games.

  6. hey kelvin says August 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Damn, I wish Time Warner cable had this In market game streams instead of Verizon and Optimum online. :/

  7. 2009 Yankees August 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    The biggest thing that sucks about Directv is that rain and cloudy days affects tv viewing. And it doesn’t even have to be raining where I am either…

  8. hey kelvin says August 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    I think you’ll like it better Trisha, I had Verizon last year it was pretty good I only switched because of the location I moved to.

    Getting the triple pack is the way to go, cable tv, phone and cable modem or dsl in one bill is better.

  9. Pel August 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    >Girardi was referring to Hairston as “Junior” during his
    >post-game press conference on Thursday night and the Seattle
    >reporters in the room were mightily confused. There is only
    >one “Junior” in Seattle and it’s certainly not Jerry Hairston.

    Girardi: …Junior…

    Seattle Reporter: http://i27.tinypic.com/2n868a8.jpg

  10. JH August 15th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    I don’t think Girardi can actually refer to a player w/o using a nickname

  11. Flounder August 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    “I thought Sergie threw the ball great for us today” – After Mitre gives up 7 runs in 3 innings today.

  12. dave August 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I live in nj and verizon is horrible for me… The pause when u flip thru the channels drives me crazy. I wish I never got rid of comcast!

  13. Alan August 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Good move Trish. DirecTV is overrated. You’ll be better off with the Verizon package. DirecTV in a thunderstorm is horrific.

  14. NO HYPE August 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    dave,

    im surprised to hear that about fios because it is almost instant for me. cablevision on the other hand has a full second pause between channel changes.

  15. #23 Hitman August 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I’ve never had a problem with storms and Direct TV. Only problem I’ve ever had was when my dish was encased in a block of ice for two days last winter. Praying Mitre can be halfway decent tonight!!!

  16. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Maybe we can encase Mitre in a block of ice for a couple days pending tonight’s performace.

  17. Bronx Jeers August 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Check out the game on Fox.

    The Mets are playing in their underwear!

  18. m August 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Locking it down. That’s exactly what our bullpen has been.

    Can someone who’s smarter than me and good with stats explain to me why Boston’s bullpen is hailed far and above ours?

    The eyeball test tells me ours is better, especially since we’re undefeated when we have a lead after the 6th inning or something ridiculous like that.

    Just a little confused why our bullpen doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Especially with our W-L record and the large # of no-decisions our starters have earned.

    Thanks in advance.

  19. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    “Can someone who’s smarter than me and good with stats explain to me why Boston’s bullpen is hailed far and above ours?”

    This question wasn’t addressed to me ( ;) ), but I’ll answer with a question of my own: is that still the case? I know it was earlier in the season, but that’s when we had Edwar and Veras in the pen and didn’t have Hughes and Aceves.

    Maybe they’re still hailing the Sox pen on the family of networks, but otherwise?

  20. RS August 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Everyone in Boston’s bullpen has unbelievable ERA’s so as a whole they don’t give up a lot of runs. I still think they may be deeper than us (Saito, Delcarmen, and Ramirez are more experienced than Bruney, Robertson, and Coke) but I would take our backend over theirs in a heartbeat (Aceves, Hughes, Mo vs. Okajima, Bard, Papelbon).

  21. Mark August 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Becuase Boston’s bullpen has guys who have done well for the past 3 years like Delcarmen and Okijima.

    Plus they added a ‘name’ in Saito this winter (who actually has not pitched that badly). And Bard throws 100 MPH and has done well, so he has received his hype.

    For us, we have received our props for Aceves/Hughes and MO. But overall, they feel that the underbelly of Boston’s pen (Delcarmen, Ramirez, Saito) is better than Coke, Bruney, Robertson, Gaudin/Melancon.

  22. Remo August 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Boston’s pen is good. Basically all of their relievers have ERAs either under 3 or just a tick above 3.

    It seems that Boston’s pen has been shaky lately, but if you look at the numbers, they are doing very well.

  23. 27 Rings August 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Our pen is front-loaded. MO/Aceves/Hughes, then a drop off to Coke/Robertson/Gaudin/Bruney

    Boston’s pen is pretty much rock solid throughout. They can use anyone in their pen basically at any time. They don’t have a guy with a near 5 ERA like we do Coke/Bruney. Their pen is 7 deep. Ours is getting there as Robertson/Bruney are becoming more reliable, but up until this point, Boston’s pen is better and deserves the hype.

  24. Cash is King August 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Don’t let the low ERA of relievers fool you. It’s inherited runners on base that score that’s more indicative to how relievers are doing. Furthermore, a couple of poor outings can skew a relivers ERA, but he might be pitching more effectively than what that ERA is showing you.

  25. Bronx Jeers August 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Whoa

    David Wright just got beaned in the head.

  26. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    David Wright just went down.

  27. Cash is King August 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Also, the Yankee bullpen besides Mo is basically made up of rookie relievers. They’re getting their feet wet as ML relievers and frankly have come a long way since April/May. Next year, they’ll be even better and more battle tested.

  28. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Ouch, David Wright just took a Cain fastball to the head. He’s still down.

    The smart answers on the Sox pen are better than mine and do answer the question about perception. Losing Masterson hurt them, though.

    Wright is sitting up now, that’s good.

  29. Patrick August 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Brandon,

    I had to run for awhile so I missed your response about Milledge.

    Lets be honest here. Milledge doesn’t have the ability to play CF. Heck, he’s a bad defender even in RF or LF. His career OPS is .718. That’s from over 1000 plate appearances. He has 30 stolen bases and he’s been caught 16 times. That’s hardly stealing bases at will.

    Milledge gets traded all the time because he was overhyped coming through the Mets system so his value got inflated. Teams realize this very quickly and trade him ASAP to try and get something of worth back. My guess is, he will stay with the Pirates for awhile because his true value is finally matching his trade value.

  30. Tank August 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    That outing in Chicago basically killed Coke’s ERA and brought it to 5 from 3.77.

  31. Bronx Jeers August 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Wright didn’t look good. Looked like he was about to throw up.

    I’m sure he’s headed to the hospital.

  32. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Patrick lets move on, but you do sound like you really hate him.

  33. Patrick August 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    I don’t hate Milledge at all. I just recognize that he’s not a good baseball player. Moving on then…

  34. m August 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Too bad about Wright, hope it’s not serious.

    Thanks for the input guys. I agreed about the inherited runners that are allowed to score not showing up in the ERA of the relievers.

    Can we conclude that Boston has the better bullpen, but ours has gotten better results? I mean the undefeated with a lead after the 6th record stands for itself.

  35. m August 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Brandon,

    You are one loyal guy. But are you really surpised that people aren’t high on Lastings Milledge?

  36. JFK August 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Robertson has a 3.24 era and has 47 strikeouts in 33.1 ip he is having a very good year. Coke era is bloated because of the white sox game. Bruney had a 3.38 era before getting injured he is a very good reliever when healthy. It looks like he rounding into form. The yankees bullpen from top to bottom is just as good as boston. I think they proved that in the 15 inning game.

  37. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    no I’m not, I only said he could be a cheap possibility, it’s not like a penciled him in for 2010.

  38. Jerkface August 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    The yankees as a whole are deceptive. Our staff era is skewed from april.

  39. Ramey - Traded his Girlfriend to the Pirates for a PTBNL August 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Milledge could be a cheap possibility at being the bat boy for the yankees in 2010?

  40. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “Robertson has a 3.24 era and has 47 strikeouts in 33.1 ip he is having a very good year.”

    I said if he started throwing strikes he could be a Tkashi Saito, I don’t remember Saito hitting 95 mph on the corner. D-Rob has improved a bit, for him it’s inexperience that holds him down, now he’s getting more use to his body, and the ML level, now he just has to worry about repeating his mechanics.

  41. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Sometimes options are cheap for a reason.

  42. Bronx Jeers August 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Why do they play Sat night games in Seattle?

  43. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    “Milledge could be a cheap possibility at being the bat boy for the yankees in 2010?”

    That’s Bam Bam’s occupation for 2010.

  44. Chris August 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Jeter – SS
    Damon – LF
    Tex – 1B
    A-Rod – DH
    Jorge – C
    Robbie – 2B
    Swish – RF
    Melky – CF
    “Junior” – 3B

  45. Rishi August 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    uh – poor Santana knows that’s a loss now unless there’s a miracle of some sort

  46. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Sandoval and Name that Molina just put Johan in some trouble

  47. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    If you just felt the earth rumbling in NY, that was just Benjie Molina and the Panda running the bases at the same time.

  48. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “uh – poor Santana knows that’s a loss now unless there’s a miracle of some sort”

    You mean getting one of those things we call runs?

  49. Rishi August 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “uh – poor Santana knows that’s a loss now unless there’s a miracle of some sort”

    You mean getting one of those things we call runs?

    ——————————–

    Not sure I believe that the Mets offense can get back into it :)
    He is going to have to get some actual outs if he wants a chance here…

  50. Tank August 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    The latest game today starts at 8:10 PM… Dodgers @ DBacks.

    Our game starts 2 hours after that.

  51. JFK August 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Brandon…I’M AWESOME!… Mitre: “I’m not an ace”
    August 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
    “Robertson has a 3.24 era and has 47 strikeouts in 33.1 ip he is having a very good year.”

    I said if he started throwing strikes he could be a Tkashi Saito, I don’t remember Saito hitting 95 mph on the corner. D-Rob has improved a bit, for him it’s inexperience that holds him down, now he’s getting more use to his body, and the ML level, now he just has to worry about repeating his mechanics.

    —————————————————–

    I agree the last step with Robertson is fastball command once he gets that down he will become into a very good backend reliever. He is still very young he was only drafted two years ago so that will come with some more experience.

  52. JFK August 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Santana got to regret coming to the mets. He had a better chance of making a world series with the twins.

  53. yada yada yada - now wearing a cup 24/7 August 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    At some point the Mets should consider shutting Johan down and saving the bullets for next year. At the least, they should serious limit his innings for the rest of the season.

  54. Rishi August 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    NickSwisher: Texsual Healing baby. Do it Tex. Huge bomb.2 more to go

    too funny :)

  55. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    “Texsual Healing baby”?

    You gotta love Swishy. :lol:

  56. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    BTW D-Wright is heading to the hospital, most likely concussion.

  57. Tom in N.J. August 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    What happened to Wright? I flip on the game and he’s shown leaving in an ambulance?

  58. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    “Robertson has a 3.24 era”

    been following David Robertson, since we selected him from University of Alabama.

    that said, how in the hell did his era get down to 3.24 ??

    good for him. And very thankful Cashman never moved him. He dominated in the minors like few others. And now he is showing what he is.

  59. Rishi August 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    new post…

  60. Abdababdaserser August 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    The Mets aren’t going to shut down the Johan. They still think they are in the race for the post season.

  61. Fran (the original) and OPPC member August 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Hope David Wright is ok. And if he has a concussion hope the Mets medical staff handles it better than they did with Ryan Church.

  62. bru August 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Over the years, says Carig, Yankee fans have never really understood what type of elbow surgery Mariano Rivera underwent in 1992. I always assumed it was Tommy John surgery, but the Yankees media guide has always just said “elbow surgery” for Rivera. Here’s how the story ends:

    “No, sir,” Rivera said, when I asked him the clubhouse on Friday whether he’d ever undergone a TJ.

    Rivera then held up his right elbow, and showed me the scar, which will soon be 17 years old. Rivera then explained that when he went under the knife, doctors originally expected to perform a Tommy John procedure. But, as the future Hall of Famer tells it, when doctors got a chance to check out the ligament, they determined that — surprise! — it did not need to be replaced. The way Rivera described it, doctors simply “moved” the ligament.

    Moving that ligament created one of the best players in baseball history. Last night’s nine-pitch save was the 516th of Rivera’s career. It was also his 900th career appearance.

    from rab By Benjamin Kabak

  63. 86w183 August 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    I don’t see the Yankees or anyone else having an interest in Milledge. Where did that come from.

    The Yanks could use a long-term solution to RF but I don’t see anyone out there that makes sense.

    The bullpen thing is pretty irrelevant. Who cares how much praise the Sawx pen gets? The Yanks pen is 28-14 (38) 4.08 in 364 innings. The ERA drops to 3.86 if you delete the “contributions” of Anthony Clagett.

    Boston is 18-14 (31), 3.44 in 342 1/3.

    I like ten more wins and seven more saves against an ERA that is .64 better. It’s arguably a wash.

  64. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 15th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    “Santana got to regret coming to the mets. He had a better chance of making a world series with the twins”

    this man has the weight of the world on him. God bless him. And i mean that

  65. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    “I don’t see the Yankees or anyone else having an interest in Milledge. Where did that come from”

    don’t know. But right now, am willing to guess Brandon is sorry for ever bringing it up

    : )

  66. Mr. Non Sequitur August 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    I’ve often wondered: why doesn’t a hockey team just a fat guy who’s bigger than the net in goal?

  67. miggs August 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Mike Vick on 60 minutes.

    Gotta DVR that one.

  68. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    “The Mets aren’t going to shut down the Johan. They still think they are in the race for the post season”

    hilarious. But as of last week, also true.

    according to WFAN last week, people in the Mets front office still believed they were in the NL wildcard race and believed they had a “10 game win streak” in them

  69. Brandon...I'M AWESOME!... Mitre: "I'm not an ace" August 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Kung Fu HIYAA!!

  70. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and proud co-adopter of the Washington Nats August 15th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Anyone who is here that answered my question about Verizon – thank you!!!!!

    I asked the question and quickly proceeded to get on to other things. But I just read the responses and greatly appreciate them. I feel better about what I am about to do.

    :)

  71. m August 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    What the heck happened to Johan, did he lose it?

    I’m following on Gameday. It looks like he TRIED to hit Sandoval, but he got owned instead. And then he hits Benjie. But doesn’t get tossed?

  72. m August 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    86,

    I cared and that’s why I threw it out there.

    But thanks for answering anyway.

    Your answer seemed to be the most complete. Results are what matter the most to me. Not “names” nor ERA.

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