My, how things have changed
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 21, 2009 
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Remember when the Yankees were 0-8 against the Red Sox this season?
They are 5-0 since, having outscored their old rivals 45-19. The Yankees are 26-8 since the All-Star break and the Red Sox 15-18.
Mike Mussina is no longer the last Yankee to win a game at Fenway Park.
Back with more from the clubhouse.
That was awesome. Even Mitre’s suckfest at the end was strangely hilarious.
That was UGLY!!! Let’s win two more and step on their necks.
Good times. 7.5 up.
I love my team!
Al’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64475541bb792a9b/
Yankees win. Boy this game gave me a headache though.
“A-Rod looks like he wants to be anywhere else but this interview LOL
He is exhausted”
When you have Kate waiting for you. Well you know.
LOL Players Of The Game
Going into this series, Yankees had to win one. They did it basically by the second inning. The strategy at that point is to make the Sox use up their BP.
Pettitte was off tonight, and then had to sit for 40 minutes. He was rusty. Giradi let him pitch with an 11 run lead.
Bruney has not pitched in 5 days. He was rusty. Let him pitch with an 11 run lead. The guy throws 96 with movement. Get the walks out of his system.
Use Damaso Marte when letting up a GS doesn’t change the game at all.
Sergio Mitre is Sergio Mitre. He is the garbageman until September 1. Let him pitch with a 13 run lead and 2 outs.
Take each game day by day. The pitching matchups still favor the Yankees the rest of this series.
Worst case 5 up, best case 9 up. Likely case 8 up (go 2-1). This team is 6-2 on their longest road trip of the year. Give them a break.
The Yankees got the win but the Red Sox still scored 11 runs. Can’t let that happen again. There’s something to be said about stepping on the other team’s throats and going for the jugular when you get the chance.
I wasn’t worried at all. I was hoping they’d come out and step on the Sox’s neck tonight. Despite the end score – they did exactly that. Francona taking out key players early in the game was acknowledgement by the Red Sox that they did just that.
as far as im concerned…the yankees have basically accomplished what they needed to this weekend..do. not. get. swept….and they did that…i fully expect to take the series but they did what they had to…
ALL the pressure is on the sox now…they HAVE to win the next two games…and that will be no small feat with tazawa going tomorrow…
MY FIRST AND ONLY POST. SORRY ABOUT ALL CAPS FOLKS BUT THE YANKS JUST PUT A 20 SPOT ON BOSTON AND TOOK A 7.5 GAME LEAD IN THE AL EAST!!!!!!! DAMN IT FEELS GOOD!!!!!!!!!
LOVED THAT HENRY WAS IN THE NESN BOOTH. HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
“The Yankees got the win but the Red Sox still scored 11 runs. Can’t let that happen again. There’s something to be said about stepping on the other team’s throats and going for the jugular when you get the chance.”
Pettitte never had it from the get-go tonight, and the umpire’s zone didn’t help. The other runs were scored off Sergio Mitre.
Somehow, I’m not overly concerned. Marte’s brilliant outing is one hell of a boost, actually. Love to have another good lefty to pair with Coke.
As long as AJ pitches a good game tomorrow the Yanks should be able to put some runs on the board against Tazawa. He is not ready for the majors and doesn’t have good stuff.
Good Job Yanks!!!!
Pettitte struggled from the long waits in between innings. He’ll tell you he should of been able to pitch better but a win is a win.
This wasn’t ugly at all to me……at times frustrating, but who cares? The Yankees stomped on the Red Sox and broke their hearts…..at least in this one game. EVERYTIME they scored (the Sox, that is), the Yankees came back – that is crushing to a team. Andy – no problem with him. He got out of sorts with the long inning. Bruney is always questionable and Mitre stinks. We didn’t use Mo, Hughes, Coke, Robertson……….not bad.
Alex had a great game – um, I wonder if he will get ANY credit now for coming up big against the Sox? Jeter – he’s ridiculous. The offense was insane…….
Great win………..
Super smash party =D
Good post PittsbughYankeeFan-
Now’s the time to see who can step up and pitch in the bullpen against the better teams. 10 more days to see who is in the bullpen able to make the postseason roster.
After Rivera and Hughes, who do you trust that can do the job in the playoffs?
Blatant repost since we got a new thread like 10 minutes after I posted this:
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With apologies to Emerson, Lake and Palmer:
“The Show” – Yankee / Red Sox style
Welcome back my friends
to the game that never ends
we are so glad you could attend
come inside, come inside.
Right behind the glass
is a pitcher with no sass
Walking batters as they pass
move along move along.
Here before your eyes
Another line drive flies
The annoucers laugh until they cry
then they sigh, then they sigh
Come inside the show’s about to start
Guaranteed to rip the pen apart
Step inside you’ll get your money’s worth
Another curve ball ’bout to depart earth.
Come and see the show!
Come and see the show!
Come and see the Shoooooowwwww!
so Al has shorten his stride and became more dangerous.
Jonathan, who cares if the Sox scored 11? They did it long after the game was over…….
LOL it would be nice if they scored AJ some runs tomorrow. He should have way more than 10 wins…….
I’ve used this picture at least half a dozen times since I found it when the Yankees swept the Sox at YSIII.
Nevertheless, I am going to keep using it because there is no other satisfactory way to express my feelings about these games at this point–no matter the outcome:
http://tinyurl.com/msambm
Anybody catch the quote that Michael Kay relayed about Rice and something attributed to him in a Boston yearbook ? If that was true – it would be a great to put Rice on the spot when he faces the press again.
“Pettitte never had it from the get-go tonight, and the umpire’s zone didn’t help. The other runs were scored off Sergio Mitre.”
True, but Pettitte and Mitre should not have allowed the Red Sox to score that many runs in a losing effort. It would be awesome if the Yankees could score 20 runs a game each and every time but let’s just enjoy this one for what it is and move on to the rest of the series.
Alex was 4-4 with a triple, missed a HR by inches and a walk in a 20 run game and had only 1 RBI.
That’s not easy to do.
The 11 runs the Sox scored tonight are akin to how teams scored against the undefeated Patriots team when the Pats were up 45-0. Garbae time runs are irrelevant.
For a good laugh, tune into EEI right now. Very entertaining.
Pete was one of those people who kept hammering the “Yanks can’t beat good teams” story for two months.
And he even chastised me a bit when I called him on it and said he was blowing that story way out of proportion.
I guess Pete has now come over to the sane side of the argument.
pat you forgot w/ 1 hip.
I would bring up Melancon (assuming he’s pitching ok in AAA) and just give him a chance. Mitre can stay as the designated garbage man. I agree with SJ – the lead now allows us to find out some things about people.
GGBG
Bravo!
i think its a little overplayed that the yankees dont have enough guys in the pen that they can trust in the playoffs…how many teams have more than 2 guys they can REALLY trust in the playoffs?…ill give you the red sox but how many other teams?
Angels-no way, there closer has a 4.1 era
Texas- F.F can be rattled, wilson is wild and feliz=rookie
Tigers- hahha joke
White Sox- Jenks has been up and down..thorton is good
Rays- Howell…dass’it
Rice is a loser I dont even think he is a hall of fame player. Look at Rice home/away splits. He did benifit a lot from playing in fenway. The stuff he said about Jeter is stupid. And A-Rod is 100 times the player Jim Rice was.
Bruney hasn’t pitched himself off the postseason roster. Please get control of yourselves. Who is making the roster ahead of Bruney? Chad Gaudin? Sergio Mitre? Mark Melancon?
The overreaction over Bruney’s performance has been astonishing. One bad outing and he gets thrown under the bus. I can only surmise that those of you ripping into the guy hated him to begin with. There is no reason to jump to these insane conclusions. He had one bad game. Get over it, I guarantee you Girardi already has.
“Jonathan, who cares if the Sox scored 11? They did it long after the game was over…….
LOL it would be nice if they scored AJ some runs tomorrow. He should have way more than 10 wins…….”
Letting a team score 11 runs while blowing them out gives them some confidence, even thought they did it against Pettitte who was not very sharp and Mitre who should not be allowed to start again for the Yankees. And yes, Burnett should have more wins than he does this year. Let’s hope the Yankees pull off a sweep this weekend at Fenway.
Jonathan C. August 21st, 2009 at 11:16 pm
The Yankees got the win but the Red Sox still scored 11 runs. Can’t let that happen again. There’s something to be said about stepping on the other team’s throats and going for the jugular when you get the chance.
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This game would been played much differently if there was an urgency about it.
Guys like Mitre and Marte pitched tonight while Robertson, Hughes, Coke, and Mo all had the night off.
So they may have given up 11 runs, but Girardi also let guys stay out there much longer because his team had such a big lead.
Guys, I didn’t hear Kay ripping on Jim Rice today……what did he say? LOL Sorry to bring it up again, but it’s still annoying.
Giants 20, NE Pats 11
GF, exactly….Zach, what’s going on on EEI? Mass suicide?
Mussina is no longer needed to win a game at Fenway, yes, but a few innings from him tonight would have been nice
How good is this team?
Betsy
Rice was ripping on the material nature of today’s players, specifically ARod, Manny and (for some reason) Jeter. Specifically, Rice said that none of those guys could have played when he played. That’s a real pot shot at Jeter who has been about the best team player there is for about 13 years now.
Kay really ripped into him about calling out Jeter. Went off on him in a big, big way.
The host on WEEI is really stoopid.
He just said “I’m looking at the list and there really wasn’t any picture in the free agent market this past offseason.”
I guess they left CC and AJ off his list.
Patrick
August 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Bruney hasn’t pitched himself off the postseason roster. Please get control of yourselves. Who is making the roster ahead of Bruney? Chad Gaudin? Sergio Mitre? Mark Melancon?
The overreaction over Bruney’s performance has been astonishing. One bad outing and he gets thrown under the bus. I can only surmise that those of you ripping into the guy hated him to begin with. There is no reason to jump to these insane conclusions. He had one bad game. Get over it, I guarantee you Girardi already has.
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I agree He has been pitching well his last couple of outings. I think he had 6 days off that is a long time for a reliever you wonder if that effected his commmand. You have a month and a half to evaluate how Bruney pitches down the stretch. A lot of things can happen between now and the postseason.
Watching the Red Sox post game is great, because Globe columnist Tony Massarotti is the co-host.
Mazz, I’m convinced wants to become a Yankee fan. He’s basically falling all over himself praising the Yankees. It’s great. A real lather job.
Meanwhile, his co-host looks like he wants to kill him.lol
Jonathan C.
August 21st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
“Pettitte never had it from the get-go tonight, and the umpire’s zone didn’t help. The other runs were scored off Sergio Mitre.”
True, but Pettitte and Mitre should not have allowed the Red Sox to score that many runs in a losing effort. It would be awesome if the Yankees could score 20 runs a game each and every time but let’s just enjoy this one for what it is and move on to the rest of the series.
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Those runs in the 6th inning shouldn’t have scored. The only reason they did was the two “errors” to the first two batters in the inning. Once again, Pettitte’s defense was noy good, but, the offense bailed out the defense and bullpen.
Callers to WEEI are pounding Theo, Tito, and John Henry.
YES post-game Booth Report with Bob Lorenz, John Flaherty, Ken Singleton, and Michael Kay:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64475977541ea4b6/
C
They are very, very good in every facet of the game. This is the best all around team we’ve had in years.
John Henry with the twitter gift that just keeps on giving…
“How did we lose that game? Let me count the ways. Tough loss.”
Jonathan, I really don’t think scoring late inning runs are going to give the Sox any more confidence than they already had. They did squat against Marte, who hadn’t pitched since April……after that, they hurt Bruney and a lousy Mitre. They may kill AJ tomorrow, but it won’t be because of these late runs. The Yankees DID put their feet down on the Sox tonight…..
Sad news. That couple that got married in the bleachers tonight has already filed for a legal separation. This game was no way to start a marriage
Betsy
August 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Jonathan, I really don’t think scoring late inning runs are going to give the Sox any more confidence than they already had. They did squat against Marte, who hadn’t pitched since April……after that, they hurt Bruney and a lousy Mitre. They may kill AJ tomorrow, but it won’t be because of these late runs. The Yankees DID put their feet down on the Sox tonight…..
Betsy with the positve post!
GGBG, I’m annoyed that I missed Kay’s comments, but good for him. I’m waiting for someone other than Rob Neyer to say something……though Jeter had the best response.
replace bruney on the playoff roster with Igawa.
kidding.
or am i?
I did not win the lottery
So I can kill the hopes and dreams of all of you out there:
Megal Millions
9-38-44-48-49 Mega Ball 13
Scoring a bunch of late inning runs off Sergio Mitre is not going to give anyone confidence they can now bludgeon Burnett or Sabathia to death.
Puh-leez.
I guess that means the Yanks should feel confident they can hammer away at Ramon Ramirez and the rest of the Red Sox bullpen.
It sounds like Girardi is standing in a train station
I finally figured out why Joe left Bruney and Mitre in,so Andy would get the win,and to save the pen.He did accomplished both.
~Now nothing like a good old fashioned but kicking,in your own Yard,hey Bawstin!
~Something tells me Mass. WON’T SLEEP TONIGHT…..hehehe!
Betsy
As always, Jeter does what he had to do with class and grace. It’s hard to become a historical level team icon on a team that’s had Ruth, Mantle, Dimaggio and Berra…but Jeter’s done it. What a pleasure it’s been watching his career unfold.
Uncle….AFTER scoring 20 runs, lol.
I really feel very positive about tonight. Again, the Sox won a similar game back in April (or was it May?) and no one questioned them. Coming into Fenway, a very tough place to win, and just ravaging their pitching staff is so impressive……..that’s what a good team does, rip the heart out of their opposition.
Betsy
August 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
I would bring up Melancon (assuming he’s pitching ok in AAA) and just give him a chance. Mitre can stay as the designated garbage man. I agree with SJ – the lead now allows us to find out some things about people.
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Melancon got hammered for 3 runs, last night. 3 hits and 3 earned runs in 1.2 innings. He’s either very good or very bad. Nothing in between.
You see this type of game more often than you would like. When a team like the Yankees are putting together a dominating performance, the fielding takes a bit of a hit. Especially when the chances that they blow the game are low.
12 batters in one inning. 29 minutes long, that is going to take a pitcher out of his groove.
Hobbie – love that post! LOL!
Ugly game but great result so who cares?
Let’s get focused on tomorrow’s game!
I’m officially over Ellsbury’s steal of home and the laughing in the dugout
OMG!! Those were the numbers!!!! OMG!!!111!!!
Oh *looks closer* Damn, that was last weeks ticket.
Just kidding.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) August 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
John Henry with the twitter gift that just keeps on giving…
“How did we lose that game? Let me count the ways. Tough loss.”
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Yes. Yes. It was Sooooooooooooo close. “Tough Loss.”
Gawd, I feel sorry for his young wife. The things people will do for money.
Oops, sorry, Pete.
People better not get all over Andy, he’s pitched well for a month with little to no run support. He kept Boston hitless while our bats bludgeoned the Sox.
Bruney-ugh.
Sergio-double ugh.
But that’s okay because we won, and we used our worst 3 pitchers. Would be great if we could take the next 2 games and not be graced with their presence.
Go, AJ!
Uncle, only after scoring 20 runs, lol!
I just felt that the Yankees truly took it to the Sox like a good team should do. They ripped the heart out of the Sox – and I especially love how they returned the favor after the Sox scored. Fenway is a great home field advantage for the Sox and they really were never in it……
Did Joe just start crying? Is it the braces again..? lol
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6447620951cc60e3/
Rconn, what is Mass saying? I almost wish I were in Boston at this time, lol…
BP for the postseason is Mo, Hughes, Robertson, Coke, Aceves. I trust everyone but Coke.
SP are CC, AJ, Pettitte, Joba.
If you carry 12 pitchers, you have 3 spots left. Interesting competition: Bruney, Marte, Melancon plus who?
Maybe you carry 11 pitchers and more of a bench? Gardner, Hariston, Hinske, Molina are there…add Pena?
The postseason on the bubble are Bruney, Marte, Pena, Melancon. 3 of the 4 will get on.
John_W_Henry has blocked me from following his twitter updates.
Damn.
LoHud, what is best in life:
To crush the Red Sox
To see them fail to make the playoffs
and to hear the lamentation on NESN/WEEI/Dirt Dogs
Erica – always OPPC August 21st, 2009 at 11:35 pm
So I can kill the hopes and dreams of all of you out there:
Megal Millions
9-38-44-48-49 Mega Ball 13
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I totally forgot about megamillions. I need to find my ticket and check
My parents insist on playing the lottery (I’ve never done it, never will), so I told them to use these #’s:
2, 13, 34, 42, 25 and 52……..in honor of the Yanks, lol.
“Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 22 to tie #4) August 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I’m officially over Ellsbury’s steal of home and the laughing in the dugout”
I’m not. Dumbsberry has all kinds of bad karma still to come for that. Maybe seeing him and his team lose for the next 10 years will help.
Total domination
I thought Andy was fine the defense let him down in the 6th. Cano’s error and then a routine pop up that Melky didn’t catch. When you give teams two extra outs you are going to give up some runs that inning.
I’m officially over Ellsbury’s steal of home and the laughing in the dugout
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I’m with you Ellsworth…I’ve been seething all season about that play….Just the way they were all yackin’ it up in the dugout…and Tito was definitely peering in at Girardi in a very mocking manner.
Tonight was pretty good payback.
GGBG, totally agree.
GB, you are always the bearer of good news, lol. Thanks! Well, that’s disappointing – can’t bring Melancon up now.
“It sounds like Girardi is standing in a train station”
lmao, true
Lots to love tonight:
Penny’s emasculation (by us and the home crowd).
Francoma’s idiotic premature white flag.
Joe’s use of Marte in a tight spot and his stuff looking stellar despite the weirdness at Scranton.
The usual crybabies on here fixating on Bruney.
Even Mitre’s 9th, which should throw cold water on any pipe dreams that he’s a legit major leaguer.
Now we put the stake in them and knock them out of the playoffs altogether.
By the way, anyone still think moving Hughes to the pen was “the waste of an asset”?
I’m goin down the shore tomorrow and won’t be here. Can someone keep track of Jeter’s hits?
Am I the only one excited about this? All-time Yankee hit leader.
All – time – Yankee – hit – leader.
Why are they showing us Penny’s press conference?
Who cares? He sucks.
By the way, anyone still think moving Hughes to the pen was “the waste of an asset”?
Only on days when Mitre starts
That Tweet from Henry is almost a month old.
He stopped using Twitter in July.
If someone told us before the game that the Yankees would outscore the Sox by 9 tonight, I wonder if anyone would complain about “not stepping on their throats enough”? Lol.
The ending was ugly but the overall results were clear. The Yankees’ biggest lead in this game was 11 runs, and they ended up winning by 9, so I hardly think they let the Sox creep up by a lot.
Andy is aging well grey hair aside – clean living.
melancon should be in the bigs regardless of the 3 runs he gave up last night….he can be no worse than bruney and his upside is much greater…im not saying DFA bruney, just stating this opinion
Pete was singing a much different tune after the Yanks got swept by the Angels.
Much of the Yankee fanbase were in a state of panic and some of us weren’t that concerned. See for yourself which side people resided on back then:
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....od-enough/
To a man — and manager — the Yankees said that getting swept by the Angels was no big deal and that they still had a good first half.
Fair enough. They are 51-37 and if the playoffs started tomorrow, they would be the wild card.
But the Yankees have played four teams (the Angels, Red Sox, Phillies and Tigers) who lead their respective divisions at the break and they are 5-15 against those teams. That’s why you can’t dismiss this weekend as just some bad luck.
The idea for a $210 million team in a $1.5 billion ballpark isn’t to make the playoffs, it’s to win them. For now, the Yankees have not been especially competitive against the best teams.
That has to change in the second half. The Yankees have 10 more games against Boston, three against the Angels and three against the Tigers starting on Friday. And don’t forget the nine games left against Tampa Bay.
The Yankees were nine games out after 88 games last season. So while this season has been significantly better, it’s still not good enough. How they play in those 25 games will determine how good this team really is.
I bet AJ and CC won’t sleep too much after watching what the Sox offense did tonight.
Thank god we got this one game. Sox offense is smoking.
“I just felt that the Yankees truly took it to the Sox like a good team should do. They ripped the heart out of the Sox – and I especially love how they returned the favor after the Sox scored. Fenway is a great home field advantage for the Sox and they really were never in it……”
Couldn’t have said it better myself. They pounded the Sox from the beginning. Penny never had a chance. And every time there was a glimmer of hope for them, we scored multiple runs the very next inning. It was as quiet a crowd as I can ever remember at a game there.
Scott F August 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
I bet AJ and CC won’t sleep too much after watching what the Sox offense did tonight.
Thank god we got this one game. Sox offense is smoking.
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You’ve gotta be kidding.
Seems like Tarzawa should be the guy suffering from amnesia tonight.
What did the Sox offense do tonight? Score when it was too little, too late? I respect them a great deal, but I think AJ and CC are not going to lose sleep about what the Sox did tonight………
Betsy and miggs agreeing.
a tear.
At the time, Pete was right. We were not beating good teams and just imploded whenever we did. 0-8 vs. Boston, swept out in LA losing 4 run leads on consecutive days, .500 against Tampa, lost a series to Philly etc.
Things have obviously changed (though only against Boston, we stumbled against Chicago), but at the time he was just saying what the truth was.
insomnia? GF?
That is DEFINITELY a Sergio Franco imposter!
“I thought Andy was fine the defense let him down in the 6th.”
Agreed. Awarding Ortiz a hit on that popup was ridiculous. If the Yankees made those 2 outs like they should have, Pettitte probably would have gotten through 6 innings with 4 runs allowed. For a guy who was due for a bad outing, that’s not bad at all. Before the long break, I was actually encouraged by how well he was settling into the game.
Sox got most of there runs off walks by Bruney who was struggling with his command. A couple of bad defensive errors and Mitre pitching in the 9th. The red sox offense doesn’t get much credit scoring 11 runs. Those were gifts from the yankees.
Miggs ………I think the quieting of a crowd in the opposing team’s park is something teams love to do….just take them completely out of it. AJ was quoted in ST that he loves to take the crowd out of it……and that is in part the reason why he’s had success against the Sox and Yanks in Fenway and OYS.
So if we write off Andy’s, Mitre’s, and Bruney’s performances from today because it was a blowout, can we subtract Marte’s outstanding inning as well?
Can’t be selective.
Jim August 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
At the time, Pete was right. We were not beating good teams and just imploded whenever we did. 0-8 vs. Boston, swept out in LA losing 4 run leads on consecutive days, .500 against Tampa, lost a series to Philly etc.
Things have obviously changed (though only against Boston, we stumbled against Chicago), but at the time he was just saying what the truth was.
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Pete decided to cherrypick specific opponents and decided to run with it.
He never mentioned the fact that the Yanks had beaten the tar out of teams like Texas and Detroit.
It was simply easier to make things look a lot worse than they really were.
Some of us said Pete was full of baloney at the time and called him on his nonsense.
Betsy
August 21st, 2009 at 11:43 pm
GGBG, totally agree.
GB, you are always the bearer of good news, lol. Thanks! Well, that’s disappointing – can’t bring Melancon up now.
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Yeah…I’m not much of a party animal. Melancon has been like this all year at Scranton and in NYY. Good for long stretches and then a clunker that he can’t stop. Really, it’s much like Bruney has been and lately, Aceves. They’ll have this and be fine for 5-6 games. I’ll take brilliance in 5 out of every 6 games.
do you put Swishy or Robi in the 2 hole tomorrow?
Damon doesn’t sound too well.
Chances are we won’t have Damon or Jorge in the lineup tomorrow.
Betsy I was the last guy to leave my section (still shouting ortiz was a hypocrite) and these clowns at Fenway were all screaming “remember 2004″. It’s incredible what one four game sweep has done for this fan base. The guy next to me ACTUALLY said “this game is eerie, reminds me of game 3 2004, don’t count this team out.”
Please, the sox may not even make the playoffs!
Uncle….it’s nice when the internet can bring two posters together, lol…..
I want to keep my positive vibe going, but I’m still puzzled as to AJ’s terrible performances in Fenway earlier this year. I figure he was too tightly wound in his first start, putting pressure on himself to perform as a Yankee in his first start between the bitter rivals. The 2nd start……well, I suppose he was so bad he would have been hit no matter who he was against. I’d love to see him pitch a great game tomorrow……
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 22 to tie #4) August 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
insomnia? GF?
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LOL. Oh, man. It must be late. You are correct.
I had to go back and read my post again. I meant “insomnia” not “amnesia.”
We don’t want Tarzawa and the Red Sox to have “amnesia” tomorrow. We want them to remember getting their asses handed to them again.
Looks like Johnny will def. be out tomorrow.
Hinske had a nice night in his place. Good to have that lefty threat in reserve.
Uncle Ellsworth: Do I need to save the link to my Jeter prediction? Is your contest more on the honor system? I don’t know how many entrants you got but I want to win. Or lose by a lot when Jeter goes on a huge tear and gets it way before anyone thinks.
“Seems like Tarzawa should be the guy suffering from amnesia tonight.”
Tazawa? Personally, I think Bowden is the one who may need to see a therapist.
Damon may be out a few days. That’s slightly concerning considering they’re carrying 13 pitchers. That basically means the team plays with only 2 bench players, one of them Molina.
Roster move coming? Thoughts anyone?
Brandon -
Jeter
Swisher
Teix
Al
Matsui/Jorge
Cano
Cabrera
Hinske
Molina
Brandon…I’M AWESOME!… Getting ready to buy the Marky Mark MVP MIXTAPE Vol.1
August 21st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
do you put Swishy or Robi in the 2 hole tomorrow?
hmmmmmm \I wish I could say Robi but his history lower in the line – up.
I can’t wait til he’s ok batting anywhere in the line-up.
What about Melk? Hairston?
Matsui & Damon’s YES post-game reactions:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64476680fad6fe17/
um… why is Mets Extra still on WFAN? It’s almost midnight and their game started at 7….
Hey Rob NY, I saw your post about your grandfather before the game started, I’m really happy for you that you got to see such a blowout. Cheers.
Alex almost shouldered Pedroia at 3B? what’s up w/ that?
This made me laugh:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/0.....f-goodbye/
GB, that’s strange about Melancon. Maybe he’s having a reaction to the TJ surgery a year late? On another board I post at, the fans are fanatical about Melancon….and he looked pretty good his last stint up here. That said, he’s not been lights out at all…….and I don’t think he’s some lockdown reliever at this point, not even close. He’ll come up on September and get his chance to show his stuff……..
I admit to some trepidation about Aceves’ inconsistency lately. I expect it from Robertson, but Aceves was sooooooo darn good in the first half. WE could really use a solid Ace…..
Betsy I didn’t win either. I guess I have to go to work Monday.
Oh I get it. Sergio was quoting Pete there.
Jeter projected for 221 hits this year.
That’s pretty impressive.
Tomorrow would be a good day for lineup masters miggs and Ramey to test their mettle… alas…
They have a 2 man bench tomorrow… Catcher and Hairston.
Could be a problem.
Do Penny and Smoltz qualify for the Cash for Clunkers program?
“um… why is Mets Extra still on WFAN? It’s almost midnight and their game started at 7….”
They had a rain delay at the beginning of the game.
Rob, reaching back to 2004 is pretty sad – that was 5 years ago, lol.
Jorge will play tomorrow – I’d be shocked if he didn’t.
Stinks about Damon, but since it could have been worse, I don’t want to comnplain too much.
The Captain’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64476752cd01e2aa/
RalphieD (OPPC)
August 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
melancon should be in the bigs regardless of the 3 runs he gave up last night….he can be no worse than bruney and his upside is much greater…im not saying DFA bruney, just stating this opinion
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They aren’t going to DFA Bruney. Were you whining about him in his last 5 games? Five games, 6 innings, 3 singles 1 walk and 3 strikeouts. Seems pretty solid to me. I’ll take 5 out of 6 every time.
I would put Swish in the 2 hole. He has hit very well this season batting there ahead of the big boys. Cano doesn’t do anything with RISP so he isn’t a good option up in the lineup. He needs to stay at the bottom until he improves his at bats.
Jorge won’t play tomorrow… day game after night game, and he caught a long game today… 4 hours, lots of long 1\2 innings by the pitchers.
He could DH, but Matsui is hot so you want to ride his bat
I doubt Jorge plays tomorrow after the long game tonight and an afternoon game tomorrow. He might DH.
Jen……I commiserate with you, lol.
Nick in SF in Larkspur
August 21st, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Uncle Ellsworth: Do I need to save the link to my Jeter prediction? Is your contest more on the honor system? I don’t know how many entrants you got but I want to win. Or lose by a lot when Jeter goes on a huge tear and gets it way before anyone thinks.
Ok but if you do win there will need to be some type of proof. I kinda said predictions need to be in before to tonight’s game. So make your prediction before tomorrow;s game.
Nick in SF-
You can go your own way
JRod up and Bruney DFA’d I say. If JRod is healthy that is.
Guys, that Henry Tweet is, like, 3 weeks old. It was from the Tampa Bay series.
Righties are hitting .542 against Tazawa with a 3.75 WHIP (13 hits and 3 HRs in 4 innings).
Jorge usually catches AJ and Molina CC………I guess they can switch that around…….
Nick since there’s no game tomorrow I’ll tell you my guess.
Same lineup as tonight with Hinske starting in LF for Damon. I think Jorge catches all 3 games this series. He’s done night games followed by day games and its a 4 PM start. Plus they had yesterday off.
I think you have to leave Hairston on the bench because he can play so many positions. Although I guess you could always switch him if someone got hurt.
Uncle: I made my prediction just before today’s game started. It’s archived.
I am off to bed. Good night Yankee people!!!!!!!
Matsui better be the DH!!
“So if we write off Andy’s, Mitre’s, and Bruney’s performances from today because it was a blowout, can we subtract Marte’s outstanding inning as well?”
We just saw Pettitte and Bruney shut the Sox down 2 weeks ago. We know they’re capable of doing it, which makes it easier to write this game off (just like it’s easy to write 0-8 off after these last 5 wins). Marte was still a question mark, but in his short stint he definitely looked like he could be a useful part down the stretch.
Unless Jorge feels really beat up, he should play. There is an off-day on Monday.
miggs: Hinske 2nd in your lineup tomorrow? I think not.
No no.
Swisher 2nd.
Hinske 8th.
Everyone else the same.
When the Yankees scored 6 runs,ANDY WAS OUT TOO LONG,he was smoking before the long inning.
You now have the correct lineup. You’re being cheated another win.
Posada just had two days in a row off, he didn’t play Wednesday night and Thursday was an off day. I think he catches AJ later this afternoon, especially since it’s a 4 PM start.
Nick in SF in Larkspur
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 am
Uncle: I made my prediction just before today’s game started. It’s archived.
cool what was it. curious.
Betsy
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 am
GB, that’s strange about Melancon. Maybe he’s having a reaction to the TJ surgery a year late? On another board I post at, the fans are fanatical about Melancon….and he looked pretty good his last stint up here. That said, he’s not been lights out at all…….and I don’t think he’s some lockdown reliever at this point, not even close. He’ll come up on September and get his chance to show his stuff……..
I admit to some trepidation about Aceves’ inconsistency lately. I expect it from Robertson, but Aceves was sooooooo darn good in the first half. WE could really use a solid Ace…..
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I don’t think that Aceves is made to be a reliever….at least not yet. In his mind and body, he’s still a starter, but, he’s also a team player. It takes a while to get used to the inconsistant work schedule….short bouts of inconsistancy, followed by long runs of lights out. I think that it’s also tough physically on him. Usually, he doesn’t have the time to come in out of the pen and settle in…..he’s full bore from the start. I think that he talks with Rivera a lot, because, really, that’s the roll that Rivera had in 1995 and 1996. Rivera is just a freak of nature, but, he has a PHD in bullpen. Imagine having the best ever in their field as your mentor and instructor.
It’s a shame that Pena had to get sent down. With Damon out for a few days, I’d much rather see Hairston in LF than Hinske (even though I like his bat), but that would leave us with no utility infielder or pinch runner.
I guess the Yankees could bring up someone else from AAA, but then who would we send down? I can’t wait until rosters expand in September because having both Mitre and Gaudin in the rotation is kind of hurting our flexibility and depth.
Andy got the win,nuff said,celebrate.
OMG…has anyone seen the uniforms the Pirates were wearing tonight??
Put the foot on the throat. Don’t give Tazawa an easy out like Molina. Make him face our (almost) A lineup.
Release Mitre
Bring up Duncan
Can’t bring up Pena unless Damon goes on the DL.
Would a lineup of Jeter, Swisher, Teixeira, Arod, Matsui, Posada, Cano, Hinske, and Melky be the slowest in the majors? Maybe even the slowest lineup ever…
Ah man, looks like I missed a great game! Pounding Bahston like this, what could be better? I had a good excuse as Seinfeld doesn’t visit my town too often.
They are not releasing anyone this close to Sept 1. IMO.
Thanks for the audio Pel!
Uncle: it was the 3rd inning of the EARLY Sept. 7 game (we have two games that day). In retrospect that might be stupid, Jeter could easily sit out that game… oh well. It looks like he could get there before then anyway.
I believe Andy has to be closing in on 200 wins as a Yankee. I think he’s at 197.
Jeter all time Yankee hit leader. Petite with 200 Yankee wins.
“They aren’t going to DFA Bruney. Were you whining about him in his last 5 games? Five games, 6 innings, 3 singles 1 walk and 3 strikeouts. Seems pretty solid to me. I’ll take 5 out of 6 every time.”
as i said…they arent going to DFA bruney nor should they…someone was debating that melancon shouldnt be there to replace bruney because they needed someone better and i disagreed…i do not want bruney off the team at all..but if there is one guy to replace in the pen, its him..
RS
Leave thpse Pirates alone! I was at the game tonight and they gave out free caps. It was their 1979 throwback unis…
>Thanks for the audio Pel!
Regarding Bruney. The last time he pitched before tonight was seven days ago on August 14th so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that he would walk guys with his past command issues.
Also, I think Joe West is one of the worse umpires in baseball and needs to retire. I can’t stand to watch him anytime I see him umpiring a game. He didn’t help Pettitte tonight with his screwy strike zone.
Release Mitre and bring up Melancon
Gaudin is better than Mitre as a #5 anyway
Nick in SF in Larkspur
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 am
Uncle: it was the 3rd inning of the EARLY Sept. 7 game (we have two games that day). In retrospect that might be stupid, Jeter could easily sit out that game… oh well. It looks like he could get there before then anyway.
you could still win if no one else is closer. Love the optimism that Jeter will continue his torrid pace.
I based mine on his season pace of 1.4 hits per game.
recently he’s been about 2.76 per game. I think.
forgot about the double header even thoug i checked the updated schedule. I bet he plays the first game though.
What do you think was running through Tazawa’s mind tonight watching this onslaught?
Tomorrow is going to be interesting.
Where optimism and realism intersect… that is where you’ll find me.
GB, that’s a good point. I keep forgetting that Ace has always been a starter……..and earlier this season he, in fact, had questions whether his body could hold up under the strain of being a reliever. I just hope his arm is ok……
Rivera is basically a 2nd pitching coach…….In fact, upon his retirement, I’d love to see Mo stay in the organization as a pitching coach or just overall mentor (even to non-pitchers).
“What do you think was running through Tazawa’s mind tonight watching this onslaught?”
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“Yanks will be exhausted after this 4 hour game and I’m basically a rookie that they only saw a couple innings of. They have a tendency of piling on in one game and going to sleep the next game. I can take advantage of that and their fatigue for about 5 innings or so then hand it off to Okijima, Delcarmen, and Papelbon”
Good points all about Damon being out hamstringing the team………I wish they could DFA Mitre and bring up Pena. I hate to be shorthanded for a few days.
Quick poll question:
Which AL East would you rather face in a potential ALCS?
Cash is King
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 am
Regarding Bruney. The last time he pitched before tonight was seven days ago on August 14th so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that he would walk guys with his past command issues.
Also, I think Joe West is one of the worse umpires in baseball and needs to retire. I can’t stand to watch him anytime I see him umpiring a game. He didn’t help Pettitte tonight with his screwy strike zone.
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Yep Bruney was hitting 98 on the radar gun. Usually he is hitting 94-96. I think the 6 days rest affected him that is an awful long time for a reliever not to pitch. He looked maybe too strong out there. He’s been pitching well lately you rather have him struggle in a blowout than in a close game.
“What do you think was running through Tazawa’s mind tonight watching this onslaught?”
Probably the same thing Burnett is thinking – “This is going to be a wild west shootout that will last no less than 4 hours”.
The only way Pena can come up is if we DL someone. Otherwise he is down for 10 days.
NESN reported that Bowden got sent down after the game. No roster move on a call up yet.
AJ blew a 6 run lead to them in April and lasted 2 innings in June.
I wish I could feel confident tomorrow. I’m very confident on Sunday, however.
Red Sox.
“NESN reported that Bowden got sent down after the game. No roster move on a call up yet.”
This was an amazing stat from jack curry:
“In the last five meetings between the Yankees and the Red Sox this month, the Yankees have won all five by a combined score of 45-19.
As revealing as that statistic is, there is another number that is also revealing. On the days of the five losses, the Red Sox have made 15 transactions.
So when the Red Sox play the Yankees these days, they keep shuffling their roster. It is the sign of a faltering team, the sign of a team that is searching for some kind of winning combination. So far, the Red Sox have not found it against the Yankees, which is why they trail them by 7 ½ games in the American League East.”
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....mbination/
“What do you think was running through Tazawa’s mind tonight watching this onslaught?”
Hopefully I can pull a Tomko? lol
From the Boston Globe –
“Catcher/first baseman Victor Martinez, who left tonight’s game shortly after fouling a ball of his big left toe, said he is OK and will be in the lineup Saturday.
“It’s a little sore, that’s all,” Martinez said. “It’ll be fine tomorrow. I think I’m playing first.”
Jason Varitek, who had missed three games because of muscles spasms in his neck, replaced Martinez and hit a solo home run in the ninth inning. Manager Terry Francona had planned to start Varitek at catcher Saturday and Sunday.”
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....tra_bases/
Posada will play tomorrow afternoon. Bank on it.
It’s a later time than a normal day game and he just got two days off on Wednesday and Thursday.
If they win tomorrow, you’ll probably see Molina in the lineup catching Sabathia on Sunday night.
Wow, those are amazing numbers, CB…… I guess instead of the Scranton Shuttle, it’s the Pawtucket Patrol…..Man, I would kill for AJ to be dominant tomorrow, but I’ll take good…….and a win.
I think we’ll see Hairston playing LF tomorrow.
Tazawa has been getting knocked around by righties and Girardi would probably prefer to have the better defender out there.
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Having a short bench in the american league is not that big of a deal. Pena was basically only being used as pinch runner for the team. Dont know why people want Mitre DFA he is a 5th starter. I dont think they have better starting options in Scranton. Gaudin is the spot starter for Joba/long man in the bullpen. Mitre wont be on the playoff roster. The yanks are about to run away with the division Mitre starts wont even be that important. Just let him eat innings which is basically what the yanks want him to do.
The Sox have released or sent down 3 guys after playing us… Traber, Miguel Gonzalez, and now Bowden
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
August 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Uncle Ellsworth,
Since I am going to the night game on Sept. 7th, I say Sept. 7th night game – 1st inning – tie record
5th inning – break record
So Fran picked the night game. Ruling. If you pick the correct game it trumps being closest if that makes sense.
Say you picked the firstinning of the day and someone had the first inning of the second But Jete breaks the record in the 9th inning of the first game- the person who picked the correct game would win. This may or may not be obvious just stating for the record.
Nick in SF in Larkspur
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 am
Where optimism and realism intersect… that is where you’ll find me.
The nexus of Yankees Universe Cosmo?
Thank you for that clarification, Uncle E. Good call.
I’ll be at the game tomorrow and I’m taking the BART train
Hope AJ pitches well… Go Yanks!!!
Remember all of that talk about how valuable Brad Penny would be for the Red Sox in a trade? They had so much pitching that they could move Penny – but only if they made the deal on their terms because it would take a ton to motivate the Sox to make the deal.
Here’s a good Gammons memory:
” Oh, Brad Penny would probably be the best starting pitcher out there, but unless someone comes up with a Justin Smoak, Matt LaPorta or Brett Wallace — which isn’t going to happen — they are going to hold onto Penny, who is two years removed from finishing third in the NL Cy Young race.
Early in the season, Penny came out throwing 88-90 mph in the first couple of innings and gradually worked his way up to 94. After months of doing the Boston shoulder program, he’s opened the first inning at 95 mph in his last five starts. In his last two starts, against the Yankees and Marlins, he hasn’t allowed an earned run. ”
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....mons_peter
Moose didn’t put the Little Leaguers to sleep.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/.....fdfcd728e/
Poker
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 am
I’ll be at the game tomorrow and I’m taking the BART train
Hope AJ pitches well… Go Yanks!!!
The “T” do you mean? Stay away from the Nixon banner.
I hope they can get the game in.
You’re taking the BART train to Boston?
Well, there’s a first time for everything.
So is Alex back?
Bad news for everyone.
“Early in the season, Penny came out throwing 88-90 mph in the first couple of innings and gradually worked his way up to 94. After months of doing the Boston shoulder program, he’s opened the first inning at 95 mph in his last five starts. In his last two starts, against the Yankees and Marlins, he hasn’t allowed an earned run. ”
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LOL Gammons is always good for a laugh. I guess the “boston shoulder program” doesn’t teach you how to pitch. Brad Penny is proof that people are too in love with radar guns and how hard you throw. So far Theo got an F for his offseason moves. Everyone was a bust.
CB-
That Gammons article is priceless!
I’m laughing so hard at exposed propaganda: Penny this, Smoltz that. Gammons is a friggin joke.
In this last 10 starts, the ‘Roid Sox are 2-8 when Penny pitches
Matsui better be in there to batter his #1 fan – Tazawa
Thing is, there was a market for Brad Penny when Gammons wrote that.
But perhaps the Sox either knew their pitching depth wasn’t as great as the media wanted us to believe.
Or the Sox foolishly overvalued Penny as much as Gammons did.
What’s mitre doing throwing behind Rocco with 2 outs in the ninth?????
“vey August 22nd, 2009 at 2:19 am
Nesn.com,says the RS are facing unfavorable pitching matchups.
They also say, Yankees dismantled Penny…..YES THEY DID!”
So I guess Penny doesn’t make cents! (pun intended). lol
Blog Poster August 22nd, 2009 at 8:21 am
What’s mitre doing throwing behind Rocco with 2 outs in the ninth?????
That wasn’t intentional. You could tell it by the way he reacted.