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Patience was not a virtue this time

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 24, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

85136536EG027_NEW_YORK_YANKAs I charted the pitches Josh Beckett threw tonight, one thing stood out as the game went on: The Yankees weren’t showing much patience.

Five at-bats were over in one pitch. Four lasted two pitches and seven were over in three pitches. In all, 16 of their 33 plate appearances against Beckett were over in three pitches or less. They drew no walks for only the fifth time this season.

This is most uncharacteristic of the Yankees, who are second in the AL in walks, first in pitches seen and third in pitches per plate appearance. They are usually a very methodical team.

Joe Girardi tried to pass it off as coincidence. But several players said it was the team’s strategy to attack Beckett early in the count, particularly his fastball. Beckett tries to get ahead with his heater then uses his excellent secondary pitches to put hitters away.

The Yankees had to try something different. Beckett had thrown 13 shutout innings against them in his last two starts.

Derek Jeter hit a first-pitch fastball for a home run to start the game. Hideki Matsui did the same thing in the second. Jeter’s single in the third inning that sparked a two-run rally came on the first pitch. Mark Teixeira’s RBI single in that inning was on the second pitch.

The five homers Beckett allowed were the most ever. “An ass-whipping,” he said several times afterward.

Hitting coach Kevin Long smiled when I asked him about the strategy and politely declined comment. They Yankees could face Beckett again next month and maybe again in October and he didn’t want to give too much away. The cat-and-mouse game between these teams never ends.

But the division race may be over. The Yankees lead by 7.5 games with 38 games left to play. They are Secretariat at this point. The only race left is with the Angels for home-field advantage.

A few other notes and/observations:

• CC Sabathia is 5-0, 2.65 in his last five starts. He has fanned 39 and walked five in his last 37.1 innings. If you have any further questions about his being an ace, keep them to yourself.

• The Yankees are 37-28 on the road and have won 10 of their last 13 away from the Bronx. That suggests a mental toughness that will serve them well in the playoffs.

• Jeter has 2,701 hits. He needs 21 to break the franchise record held by Lou Gehrig.

• You certainly know that the Yankees lead the majors in home runs. But as Joel Sherman of the Post pointed out on Twitter tonight, the Yankees lead the majors with 84 on the road. It isn’t all Yankee Stadium.

• The Yankees have won 15 of their last 17 series, 10 of 11 since the break.

• This seems impossible to be true. But before hitting four home runs this weekend, Matsui had only two in 41 previous regular-season games at Fenway Park.

• I’m joking, of course. But the Yankees should consider jaking it against the Rangers this week. Wouldn’t you rather face the wild-card Rangers in the first round of the playoffs than the Central Division champs? The Tigers and White Sox have much better starting pitching.

That’s it for now. The team has a day off tomorrow and I’m going to follow suit. There will be a few posts but nothing too involved is planned. Thanks for the turnout this weekend.

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223 Responses to “Patience was not a virtue this time”

  1. Matt August 24th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, “the Red Sox’s chances of landing Mets reliever Billy Wagner are in serious jeopardy.”

    There are two main problems: Wagner wants to have the option of leaving after the 2009 season, and the Sox are not willing to guarantee that his 2010 club option will go unexercised. Boston management also wants to have the choice of offering the veteran salary arbitration, an idea to which Wagner’s agent is adamantly opposed. The two sides have about 40 hours to come to an agreement.

  2. Don August 24th, 2009 at 1:29 am

    “You certainly know that the Yankees lead the majors in home runs. But as Joel Sherman of the Post pointed out on Twitter tonight, the Yankees lead the majors with 84 on the road. It isn’t all Yankee Stadium.”

    Good job acknowledging this fact Pete. The Yanks average both 5.59 runs per game at home and on the road.

  3. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus August 24th, 2009 at 1:30 am

    Only walk in the entire game was by Rivera…

  4. CK in LA August 24th, 2009 at 1:33 am

    The Rangers series is going to be strange. It’s not often that the Yankees winning helps Boston.

  5. Giuseppe Franco August 24th, 2009 at 1:36 am

    The Rangers are now better than they were in May.

    It will be a good test. Joba has struggled historically against them.

  6. RichThomas August 24th, 2009 at 1:36 am

    Posturing by B-Wags’ agent. He’ll go. Pissing off Papelbon is a plus.

    I am interested in seeing how our newfound road mental toughness will play in a series in Sept in Anaheim with our division already sewn up.

  7. sfochild August 24th, 2009 at 1:39 am

    Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus
    August 24th, 2009 at 1:30 am
    Only walk in the entire game was by Rivera…

    I don’t know if that has occurred before, ever.

  8. Giuseppe Franco August 24th, 2009 at 1:40 am

    This isn’t a newfound toughness on the road.

    The Yanks have played pretty well on the road all season. They’ve just played unbelievable ball on every field since the ASB.

  9. pfisher518 August 24th, 2009 at 1:47 am

    What makes you think the Tigers and White Sox have much better starting pitching? The Rangers have the fewest runs allowed in the league even though they play in a hitters park and play the Angels offense 18 times a year.

  10. E-gawa August 24th, 2009 at 1:53 am

    “The Yankees should consider jaking it against the Rangers this week. Wouldn’t you rather face the wild-card Rangers in the first round of the playoffs than the Central Division champs? The Tigers and White Sox have much better starting pitching.”

    I’d prefer to clinch before we start discussing which team we’d like them to face.

    Pete, You’ve covered the Mets. You should know better than that.

  11. JK August 24th, 2009 at 1:55 am

    The Redsox will have to pay Papelbon 10M in arbitration next year. He is also their biggest trade piece. The tremendous Redsox minor league system was smoke and mirrors. Bowden & Tazawa have been exposed as having back end starter stuff, Buchholz is 25 now and is still a question mark & their number #1 prospect Lars Anderson has had a horrendous year.

  12. Ben August 24th, 2009 at 2:00 am

    I consider this series a big success. I am glad the Yankees are still doing their homework and changing up their game-plan when they need to against great pitchers, Beckett included. It won’t be long until we will be talking about magic numbers (assuming the Yankees don’t pull a Mets)

  13. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 2:04 am

    Awh Pete the Yankees worked too hard to give the Rangers a win.

  14. DJ August 24th, 2009 at 2:04 am

    Hey JK, you know the Red Sox have a young guy named Daniel Bard right? He throws about 100 MPH. He’s gonna be the future closer and he doesn’t make things interesting like PapelDUMB

  15. Tim August 24th, 2009 at 2:04 am

    Pete, you failed to mention that Swisher’s streak of 30-odd some games of reaching base safely was snapped Sunday night. He went 0-4 and no Yankee walked tonite. Thought it was worth mentioning…

  16. Thomas A. Anderson August 24th, 2009 at 2:05 am

    The Rangers are prime candidates for “Team the Yankees Should Easily Beat in the ALDS but Instead Beats NY in 4 games”

    Be very careful about trying to pick one’s spots. The 2006 Tigers and 2007 Indians are sobering reminders that the ALDS is no cakewalk AT ALL.

  17. Jack West Jr August 24th, 2009 at 2:12 am

    Justin Verlander is among the elite starting pitchers the Yankees or any other team would face in the playoffs, but behind him, the Tigers don’t trot out anyone too spectacular.

    Edwin Jackson has had a spectacular year, but appears to have hit somewhat of a wall in recent weeks, laboring through outings and struggling to put batters away.

    Jarrod Washburn was a big name to move at the deadline, but he hasn’t been very good at all away from Safeco and the Mariners ridiculous outfield defense. 3 of his 4 starts for Detroit has seen him allow at least five runs and allow at least two homers. The one in which he didn’t happens to be the one he started against those powerhouse Royals.

    Rick Porcello has had a solid rookie campaign but is on an innings limit as well. Perhaps he’s helping to keep his own innings down by failing to make it out out of the sixth inning in ten of his last eleven starts.

    ***

    As for the ChiSox – Buehrle, Floyd and Danks are a solid front three, but personally I feel at a distinct advantage matching up CC, AJ and Andy against those three. And at this point, Jake Peavy is nothing more than a wild card. Who knows if he’ll be effective when he comes back, and how long he’ll stay healthy.

    ***

    I’d probably rather face the AL Central champ than Texas. Texas is finally pushing out some decent pitching talent highlighted by Feldman and Hunter in recent weeks. And Derek Holland’s numbers are coming around as well. And with Feliz doing his best Joba recreation, the bullpen is in pretty good shape too.

    Plus, the Rangers offense can rake with just about anyone.

    Although the Yankees seemingly handle the Rangers very well, that all means nothing come October’s Crapshoot. A certain Yankee team recently swept the season series from the Indians only to win one game in the playoffs against them.

  18. Giuseppe Franco August 24th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    Bard doesn’t make things interesting?

    TB and the Yanks might disagree. Longoria, Damon, and Teixeira all hit bombs off Bard in the same week the Red Sox got swept at the Stadium.

  19. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    Tim I posted that on the previous thread.

    Also Papelbon has an shoulder issue,for any team that shows interest.

    What is going to happen to Penny,since he lost his rotation spot,as of Friday to Wakefield?

  20. TIDROW August 24th, 2009 at 2:18 am

    I hate when people suggest the Yankees should play to avoid certain teams. That”s the defeatist mentality a true championship team should avoid. As of now the Yankees are the best team in baseball and unless injuries derail them they will be such at the end of the season. They shouldn’t be afraid of anyone. For Pete to suggest they should try to avoid certain teams is ridiculous. If they can’t beat the Red Sox in the playoffs they don’t deserve to be champs. Come on Pete; stop being a wimp….LOL

  21. MarcinAsia August 24th, 2009 at 2:18 am

    DJ

    Bard’s last 10 appearances

    IP H ER BB SO
    8.1 11 8 6 12

    That’s an 8.64 ERA and 2.04 WHIP. I’d say he has the ability to make things interesting

  22. Carl August 24th, 2009 at 2:20 am

    Giuseppe Franco

    Swish hit one off of him yesterday

  23. Carl August 24th, 2009 at 2:22 am

    http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=6265847

    Sterling calls

  24. Nick in SF in Larkspur August 24th, 2009 at 2:25 am

    I don’t think the Yanks will roll over for anyone. And even if they would, getting home field advantage over Anaheim of Los Angeles is more important than trying to game the first-round opponent.

    Respect them all. Fear none of them.

  25. JFK August 24th, 2009 at 2:55 am

    I noticed that too watching the game. The yankees were very aggresive with Beckett early in the count. Thats why his pitch count was not high. It is rare you give up 8 earned runs and still pitch 8 innings. Anytime Beckett gets a loss it is a good day he is pure evil.

  26. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 3:13 am

    Yankees owned Penny and Beckett,who’d a thunk it!

  27. Pel August 24th, 2009 at 3:14 am

    >Hitting coach Kevin Long smiled when I asked him about the
    >strategy and politely declined comment.

    Jeter said nobody talked about it.

  28. KyleLitke August 24th, 2009 at 3:25 am

    Despite the series against them, I’m not really concerned with the White Sox (nor am I too concerned about Texas).

    The Tigers, though, they concern me in a short series. Verlander and Jackson have been great all season and great against the Yankees. The Yankees have a better team than theirs, but in a short series, you never see the #5 starter (and sometimes #4) and the bullpen gets used much less, and those are the Tigers two biggest weaknesses I think.

  29. Carl August 24th, 2009 at 3:28 am

    Crazy how the 3 Florida Marlin teammates lost.

  30. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 3:38 am

    PEDRO(Phillies) got revenge on the Mutts with a win 9-7

  31. m August 24th, 2009 at 3:40 am

    I think the Yankees would rather secure HFA over Anaheim, rather than mess with the fates of others.

    What a great road trip his started and turned out to be. Won all 3 series, beginning with Formerly Winless in Seattle and ending with a Nail in the Green Monster Coffin.

  32. igotid88 August 24th, 2009 at 3:46 am

    I wonder if they’ll DFA Beckett….. I’m just kidding.

  33. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 3:49 am

    ~m
    don’t forget CC win in Oakland,he BROKE his win lees streak.

  34. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 3:54 am

    ~Igotid88

    Penny lost his rotation spot to Wakefield,he may be leaving soon.

  35. m August 24th, 2009 at 4:03 am

    Okay, Haiku. We’ll dub that the Broke the Home Team’s Back game.

  36. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 4:06 am

    When the Yankees win a series this important,I’m on a natural high,and can’t sleep!

  37. hey kelvin says August 24th, 2009 at 4:30 am

    Uhhh an off day will make today so boring…I just look forward to watching Cliff Lee shut down the Mets and updates on the blog.

  38. m August 24th, 2009 at 4:45 am

    Part of my day will be spent looking at the standings. Boston must be sick. 2 weeks of hard work and nothing to show for it. Still 7.5 GB.

    Maybe we can talk about Phil Hughes, too. I noticed that even going back to last season when he first came back and had a pretty good dominant start, players were fouling a lot of balls off him. Wasn’t really swing and miss stuff. But you see a lot of uncomfortable swings and a lot of fouls back to the screen. Is this a good thing? To me, it looks like they can’t square up on it very well and they’re continually late on it. But maybe others here will have a better scouting report than that.

    It’s only 10:45 here, but it’s been an exhausting weekend of Yankee-Boston baseball. Nighty-night.

  39. Yo Hang August 24th, 2009 at 5:09 am

    “But the Yankees should consider jaking it against the Rangers this week. Wouldn’t you rather face the wild-card Rangers in the first round of the playoffs than the Central Division champs? The Tigers and White Sox have much better starting pitching.”

    Well sort of. The reason tanking it could be good for the Yanks wouldn’t be about the first round opponent. Texas, Detroit, and Chicago are all very beatable. It’s about the 2nd round. If Texas gets the wild card then the Yankees don’t have to worry about seeing Boston in the 2nd round. That’s why losing to Texas wouldn’t be so bad. Texas winning the wild card prevents Boston from making it to October.

  40. Andrew August 24th, 2009 at 7:28 am

    “If Texas gets the wild card then the Yankees don’t have to worry about seeing Boston in the 2nd round.”

    Why should the Yankees worry about seeing Boston in the 2nd round? The Yankees are capable of beating any AL team, especially the much-vaunted and overly-dreaded Red Sox. If the Red Sox manage to make it that far, the Yankees will go into a series expecting to handle them, and are better equipped than in any recent previous seasons to beat them and all the other teams in the AL they might face in the postseason. Have a little faith in your team.

  41. Cash is King August 24th, 2009 at 7:29 am

    “Well sort of. The reason tanking it could be good for the Yanks wouldn’t be about the first round opponent. Texas, Detroit, and Chicago are all very beatable. It’s about the 2nd round. If Texas gets the wild card then the Yankees don’t have to worry about seeing Boston in the 2nd round. That’s why losing to Texas wouldn’t be so bad. Texas winning the wild card prevents Boston from making it to October.”

    This type of thinking is useless and has cause great disappointment in prior playoff runs because come playoff time, short series are crapshoots and anything can happen. I just want the Yankees to make the playoffs and whichever team(s) they end up playing doesn’t matter to me because “to be the best, you have to beat the best”. The Yankees just need to be ready to play all contenders as I hope they’re up to the task of winning playoff series this year.

  42. The Ghost August 24th, 2009 at 7:38 am

    A couple more games like this and maybe Beckett will start calling the Yankees his daddy!

  43. Jim the VT Yankeefan August 24th, 2009 at 7:53 am

    A few numbers:

    The magic number for the division is 32.
    The magic number for the wild card is 31.

    If the Yankees play only .500 the Sawks have to play .718 (28-11). That ain’t happening.

    Finally, the Yanks need to only play a very reasonable 22-16 to win 100 games.

  44. Steve August 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am

    I rather see NY play and beat the Angels for the pennant just to remove the “albatross” .It’s always more satisfying when they win vs. the best competition.

  45. Sam August 24th, 2009 at 8:04 am

    yankees.com had the five Yanks homeruns as called by John Sterling, whom I hadn’t heard (thank God) in years. And here’s the amazing thing: he’s actually gotten WORSE over the years, which is hard to fathom.

  46. Betsy August 24th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    I don’t give a hoot who the Yankees play – I just want them to beat them. Whoever they play is going to be a good team and a tough out….Any team can beat any team at any time, especially in a short series.

  47. Carl August 24th, 2009 at 8:10 am

    Sam August 24th, 2009 at 8:04 am

    yankees.com had the five Yanks homeruns as called by John Sterling, whom I hadn’t heard (thank God) in years. And here’s the amazing thing: he’s actually gotten WORSE over the years, which is hard to fathom.

    lol look its a hater

  48. Observer283 August 24th, 2009 at 8:20 am

    I think I would rather face the Rangers than the Tigers (if the Yankees make the playoffs). When you go up against a Justin Verlander in game 1 of a series, every advantage you have against a team is gone. Not only can he singlehandedly win a baseball game by himself, he actually has a VERY good chance of doing just that.

    We beat him this year, and had to be just about Perfect to do it. (Great start by AJ, I believe, and a big late HR by A-Rod).

    The Rangers have very good pitching, but no one in the same league has Verlander. In a five game series, I just don’t want to go up against the best pitcher in the league in games 1 and 4 or games 1 and 5. Moreover, Edwin Jackson is a bit like A.J. You might be able to get to him, but on any given day, he can be nearly unhittable. Four games against guys who throw 98+ and are pretty untouchable when they are on: No thanks.

    Of course, I would rather face the White Sox than either the Twins or the Rangers. The White Sox may have handed us some lunch earlier in the season, but they are clearly the third best team out of those three. Plus they don’t have any shut-down starters (Buerhle is very, very good. But he can be had, as we have seen all month since his perfect game).

  49. Steve August 24th, 2009 at 8:28 am

    The Angels got the Yanks number .It goes without saying that “any team can beat any team at any time” .It’s all a crap shoot yaddy ya ya…

  50. Raymagnetic August 24th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Test

  51. Luds August 24th, 2009 at 8:33 am

    Wocked series for Matsui. The man can really deliver. As you pointed out Pete, I’d much rather face Texas in the first round.

  52. Max August 24th, 2009 at 8:33 am

    @DJ – Bard doesn’t have papelschmere’s postseason resume either.

  53. Alan August 24th, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Everything to like about this road trip. As predicted by many, it would be a 7-3 road trip capped off by 2 of 3 in Beansville.
    Getting to Buckett knocked the steam out of the Sux who now face a White Sox team that must win their division or be out of the playoffs completely.
    The Yankees can still be a factor in who makes it as a Wild Card. Playing Texas for 3 games, 3 more with Boston at the Stadium, and 6 more with the Rays home and away.
    38 games remaining and 8 days until the rosters expand.

  54. jennifer August 24th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Isn’t it funny that the red soxs now have to root for us to beat the Rangers.

  55. Rick August 24th, 2009 at 8:53 am

    If you’re good you should have the confidence of knowing you can beat your opponent regardless of who they are.
    It’s been proven time and again that anything can happen in a short series.
    Picking and choosing or wishing for an opponent comes with no guarantees.
    The Yankees have something to prove with the Angels. It’s time to shake that bugaboo. Bring ‘em on and no better time to start than Sept. 21-23 during the last west coast trip.

  56. Raymagnetic August 24th, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Are people still worried bout who the best team in the division is going to play in the postseason :???: Really?

    I can guarantee that NO tea
    wants to face the Yankees in the postseason. The Yankees have the best front four and best set up man and closer in the league, not to mentionthey also have the best offense.

    The Yankees ain’t worried bout nobody and neither should anybody here.

  57. arodmvp217 August 24th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    How annoying was the ESPN announcers labeling hughes as a failed starter?

  58. Fran (the original) and OPPC member August 24th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    Rick,

    I agree and the way the Yankees are playing right now I think they could beat any team.

  59. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Jennifer- I just got an email from my sister the RS fan, she says no way is she rooting for the Yankees to beat the Rangers :)

  60. bru August 24th, 2009 at 9:03 am

    i am not convinced that the angels own the yankees

    throw cc in game one,pettitte in game 2,burnett in game 3 & we will be fine

  61. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 9:03 am

    Nice Yahoo column on MPB Johnny Damon

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

  62. jennifer August 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Does she still think the soxs have a chance for the division?

  63. Greg August 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Daniel Bard is the next Kyle Farnsworth. I don’t care that he throws 100 MPH, he can get hit.

  64. Doreen August 24th, 2009 at 9:10 am

    There is no way this Yankees team is going to let up and not try to win the games against Texas. Nor should they. Such talk is ridiculous. And they haven’t clinched anything yet.

    However, from the post-game interviews, it sure sounds like the Yankees have just the right tone or attitude. I like their approach and I think it will continue to serve them well.

    I was ready to be happy with one win at Fenway. So, I’m ecstatic that they took 2. They’re a supremely confident team that doesn’t let a few bumps in the road (a loss here and there or a game fraught with less-than-stellar fielding) to sidetrack them.

  65. Raymagnetic August 24th, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Erica,

    I didn’t know Damon suffered from Male Pattern Baldness.

    I take it MPB means something different? :)

  66. bru August 24th, 2009 at 9:12 am

    nice plan in swinging on beckets first pitch fastball because they are easier to hit & right over the plate instead of getting behind & trying to hit his breaking pitches when you are not sure they are coming.

    will he make an adjustment & start with breaking balls.

    if the rs were smart they start lester in game 1 if they get in

  67. Andrew August 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    It wasn’t annoying that Hughes was referenced as a failed starter, just another revelation that Jon Miller doesn’t really know what he’s talking about and doesn’t follow the game that closely.

    You’ll notice that Morgan and Phillips both glossed over that comment and didn’t say anything about Hughes’ future. They will probably just wait until 2010 to bring up the fact that he was so good in the bullpen and the Yankees are stupid to return him to the rotation. Hopefully by then Yankees fans will be immune to that stupidity, since we’ve already been through it to no end with Mr. Chamberlain.

  68. Blackaccord August 24th, 2009 at 9:14 am

    arodmvp217
    August 24th, 2009 at 8:58 am
    How annoying was the ESPN announcers labeling hughes as a failed starter?

    ———————————————–

    They will be proved wrong in a few years.. Right now, he’s probably the best 8th inning guy in the majors..

  69. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Raymagnetic
    August 24th, 2009 at 9:11 am
    Erica,

    I didn’t know Damon suffered from Male Pattern Baldness.

    I take it MPB means something different?
    ***

    LOL.

    My Pretend Boyfriend.

    I used to spell it out, but then people on the blog started suggesting I abbreviate. I say it so often I tend to assume everyone knows what it means

  70. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Jennifer- I think she is realistic enough to know the division is out of reach and is now hoping for the WC. They had tickets for Sat’s game, so at least they got to see a win.

    Erica- your PBF is awesome, I hope he gets re-signed :)

  71. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am

    upstate Kate-

    I do too!!!! I am trying to work out a pretend deal with brian Cashman to get him back. I guess we’ll find out how well I succeed in a few months.

    At the very least, Johnny’s bat is making a great argument

  72. Hokiehill August 24th, 2009 at 9:33 am

    That Fenway Park is such a band box! What a joke! They should really consider moving the fences back or raising the walls out in RF and right-center field. Hah!

  73. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 9:36 am

    Erica- Johnny D is also my niece’s PBF, even after he came to the Yankees. It is so much fun to buy her Yankees stuff, it makes my RS loving sister crazy.

    Hokie- no one ever seems to comment on how many HR the Yankees hit away from home. Maybe it isn’t just the new stadium.

  74. jennifer August 24th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Notice how they only made the comment about the short line in rf after a Yankee hit a homerun. But if a sox did it they wouldn’t have said a word.

  75. Blackaccord August 24th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    boston dirt dogs site is always funny and imaginative after a sox loss..

    1. NYY, D. Jeter (Inning: 1 , 0 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    2. NYY, A. Rodriguez (Inning: 5 , 2 Out, 1 on) off J. Beckett,
    3. NYY, H. Matsui (Inning: 2 , 0 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    4. NYY, H. Matsui (Inning: 8 , 2 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    5. NYY, R. Cano (Inning: 4 , 1 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett

    Smackdown Big Apple Payroll 8, Small Market Sox 4
    And BeCCket CCan Kiss That CCy Young Goodbye
    Varitek?… Present. Farrell?…. Present. Beckett?…. Beckett?
    The Cooler Strikes Again: Tito Gives Mr. Clean a Seat Against CC
    One More Thing to Harp On: Ells Gets Caught Stealing

    “We got pitches to hit and we hit them… “– Derek Jeter… wait til Jim Rice hears about this

  76. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Erica

    I wish you would be a little more positive after such a good series. :lol:

  77. Anthony5 August 24th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    “How annoying was the ESPN announcers labeling hughes as a failed starter?”
    I expected that from Miller. I think someone(Phillips?) set him straight about it later.

  78. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Blackaccord
    August 24th, 2009 at 9:39 am
    boston dirt dogs site is always funny and imaginative after a sox loss..

    1. NYY, D. Jeter (Inning: 1 , 0 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    2. NYY, A. Rodriguez (Inning: 5 , 2 Out, 1 on) off J. Beckett,
    3. NYY, H. Matsui (Inning: 2 , 0 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    4. NYY, H. Matsui (Inning: 8 , 2 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett,
    5. NYY, R. Cano (Inning: 4 , 1 Out, 0 on) off J. Beckett

    Smackdown Big Apple Payroll 8, Small Market Sox 4
    And BeCCket CCan Kiss That CCy Young Goodbye
    Varitek?… Present. Farrell?…. Present. Beckett?…. Beckett?
    The Cooler Strikes Again: Tito Gives Mr. Clean a Seat Against CC
    One More Thing to Harp On: Ells Gets Caught Stealing

    “We got pitches to hit and we hit them… “– Derek Jeter… wait til Jim Rice hears about this

    ——————————————————-

    They are starting to sound like the pre 04 RS fans again. :lol:

    When they were on top you didn’t hear the payroll talk.

    I had some RS fans admit they were spending like the Yankees.

  79. JohnC August 24th, 2009 at 9:46 am

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  80. BD 2.0 August 24th, 2009 at 9:47 am

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  81. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    MaineYankee
    August 24th, 2009 at 9:40 am
    Erica

    I wish you would be a little more positive after such a good series.
    ***

    I will try to tone down my blinding cheerfulness. LOL

  82. jennifer August 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    No mysteriously the soxs lose 2 of 3 from the Yankees, and we gain another game in the standings and she disappears. It’s magic.

  83. NYYROC August 24th, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Andrew, good comments regarding PH. He will be a SP in 2010 yet no doubt people will clamor for him to be the EIG. Since the team has the best record in MLB it is kind of a moot point, but PH in the pen has been a mixed blessing. The team has benefitted and so has Phil. But he is one of the 5 or 6 best pitchers on the team and it seems like a waste for him to pitch 2 IP per week. In August he’s pitched about 7 or 8 IP. IF Bruney had pitched like he did early in the year he would be the EIG and PH would’ve been back in the rotation once CMW went on the DL for the 2nd time. Good SP (of which I believe Phil is one) are more valuable and harder to find than an EIG. That is why good SP make more $. That is why, as C-Money said, you can take a good SP and put him in the pen and he’ll do well. But put a good RP in the rotation and more than likely he’ll struggle. That is why most fans can name the best SP in MLB but try to name other teams’ EIG, not so easy. Some of the more stat oriented posters or maybe it was Steven Goldman of Pinstriped Bible have pointed out the EIG isn’t as key as fans and broadcasters make him out to be. In 2010 I think D. Rob gets a shot at EIG, if he can keep his BB down. I think Bruney’s window of opportunity in that role has closed. Maybe the EIG will come from outside. But in 2010 Hughes will be in the rotation and I look forward to watching him and Joba for many years to come.

  84. Yankee Trader August 24th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Erica

    I can see the Yankees bringing back your PBF, but on a year reduced contract, and if he stays healthy and continues his output thru the rest of the season. However his play next year would have to be mostly at DH, as I would think the Yankees go after a cheaper switch hitting and versatile FA[? Figgins] or make a trade for another OF’er.

    Matsui has been one of the top 4 run producing DH’s this year along with Jason Kubel, Jim Thome, and Adam Lind. I just don’t see much playing time for him in a Yankee uniform next Year.

  85. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    “How annoying was the ESPN announcers labeling hughes as a failed starter?”
    I expected that from Miller”

    I expected it too. Most hippies don’t know much about baseball.

  86. BD 2.0 August 24th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    If the Yanks have learned anything, it’s that bullpens are hard to predict.

    Worry about setup men next year. The best strategy for the pen is depth and a solid farm system.

    Who is the Angels setup man? Zumaya was the Tigers. Dodgers had to trade for Sherrill. And JJ Putz was supposed to give the Mets the best 1-2 punch in baseball.

    Maybe McAllister is there next year. Or DRob. Or someone new…

    Just ain’t gonna be Phil.

  87. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    I am so glad there is a day off today! I always find the Red Sox games too long and stressful. Barely mentioned was Jeter’s 2700 hit and CC’s 15th win.

  88. Mac August 24th, 2009 at 10:01 am

    For the GGBG fans – anyone take note of what Ellsbury did against the Yanks? He’s a superior player to GGBG (with a virtually identical but superior skill set) and he was totally shutdown hitting in front of the AL MVP.

    Point is, when guys with no power who really are sub par hitters who “disguise” that with speed face good pitching, they get owned.

    Melk definitely needs a rest and he was non-existent this weekend, but all the hype over how much the Yanks would “miss” Gardner seems more than a bit misguided.

    By my count Yanks are 650-3 since Gardner has been on the DL – gonna double check that just to be sure.

    Great series for the Yanks – alot of heros in pinstripes.

  89. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Somethign to consider-

    Sabathia is now leading the AL in wins. He is a mere 3 strike outs behind Halladay. If he can lower his ERA slightly, does anyone else think he is at least in the discussion for CY Young?

  90. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ce/?page=1

    Here’s a good article to help continue the positive feelings you have this morning.

  91. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Take note of the comments about the AJ, Posada conflict.

  92. haiku-man August 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    I look forward to this week RS need to fight for a post season berth. Beckett denied a second time his 15th game win was beautiful.

  93. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    “Big win for the Yankees, last night. The turning point, of their season” skip bayless

    the turning point of our season? Or the turning point in your own head, that the Yankees aren’t missing the playoffs

  94. Blueshirt Brawler August 24th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Pete be careful what you wish for in Texas. That lineup is tough and their pitching has given up the few runs in the AL. Sure the names in Chicago and Detroit might be more popular but Texas will be no picnic in the ALDS.

  95. Darrin August 24th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Stat of the day:

    The Yankees are 78-46 through their first 124 games. The only Yankee team in the last 45 YEARS to have a better record at this point was the 1998 team (92-32).

    Enjoy this team.

  96. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    “Sabathia is now leading the AL in wins. He is a mere 3 strike outs behind Halladay. If he can lower his ERA slightly, does anyone else think he is at least in the discussion for CY Young?”

    definitely. But to win, he will have to get to 20 wins.

    Rivera needs to be considered (altho of course he won’t)

  97. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    92-32

    wow. didn’t realized the ’98 team did this

  98. Patrick August 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am

    Sabathia will be in the conversation for Cy Young. Right now it should be Greinke’s award to lose. He has been the best pitcher in the AL.

  99. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Isn’t it great being me? :) When you don’t worry, you’re happy as heck with things turn out great and fine even when they don’t. Never take your eyes off that prize (and of course believe 100% that it’s yours in the end.) That way bumps in the road are just that.

    I slept fine last night because I had good feelings and total equilibrium.

    Seriously it’s the one thing I have (that kind of balance) I wish I could share with people who don’t have it. I know some people here have it – Erica and DT immediately come to mind, Bod also. I know there are others. When you roll with the punches, you’re never move too far from center. Plus you don’t take minutes off your life with worry, most of which turns out to be needless. :) Case in point. I never worried about the Yankees at all this season. So how cool does that make me right now!

    Anyway -

    “Yankees owned Penny and Beckett,who’d a thunk it!”

    I definitely thunk we would own Penny!

    ***********************

    Okay, this is plaguing me and I need an answer. I cannot figure out that triple play. I understand that catching the ball is one out. When he stepped on second that was the second out, but I thought that took care of the guy coming from first. Otherwise why step on second. And if that is the case, how was tagging the guy coming from first another out????

    SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME! That did keep me up a while.

    Thanks.

  100. Uncle Peco August 24th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Cy Young voters are in love with the 20-win mark

    It clouds their judgment.

    If CC gets 20, Greinke is in trouble.

  101. m August 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Boy, that Duncan is a truly can make pitchers better:

    John Smoltz joined the show to discuss his first outing with the Cardinals. Smoltz struck out nine in five scoreless innings. Here are some of his takes.

    – Smoltz said he made an adjustment that he knew would help. He said he didn’t expect seven strikeouts in a row.

    He had a foot adjustment on the mound — the way he was sliding off the mound.

    Also, Smoltz learned he was tipping his pitches, and the Cardinals helped him notice it and correct it.

    – Smoltz wanted to clarify, he didn’t blame the Red Sox at all for what happened. Smoltz blamed himself for getting “caught up in the storyline” and trying too hard.

  102. MG August 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Erica, the tag at second was for the runner originally on second who was off the base, the tag of the runner from first completed the triple play.

  103. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sp....._possible/

    Nice article on Jeter.

    Take a look at the pitcure of Little Dusty, really funny. :lol:

  104. Uncle Peco August 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    trisha,

    tagging 2nd took care of the man on 2nd. tagging the runner coming from 1st took care of the man on 1st.

    it wasnt a groundball. it was a line out.

  105. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    Trisha- there were runners on 1st and 2nd. He caught the line drive for out #1, he stepped on the bag getting out the runner who was on 2nd, who needed to tag up, and the 3rd out was the runner coming from 1st, who needed to go back to 1st to tag up.

  106. Uncle Peco August 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    the only things Smoltz learned:

    1. the NL isn’t the AL

    2. the Padres are a AAA team

  107. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    MaineYankee – I didn’t read that article yet but all I needed to know about the AJ/Posada conflict was shown to me when ESPN panned in on them standing near each other looking like unhappy lifeless statues. All I could think was that Joe took them aside and told them to hang out with each other so it would look like things were fine!

    :lol:

    It’s theirs to resolve. Either they will or they won’t. Beyond that I don’t particularly care anymore. Having ESPN tell the world that the best way for them to work together was to have the pitches called from the dugout certainly says that the only ones who still haven’t noticed a problem are the ones who just don’t want to admit one is there. Hell when SJ says both sides need to give a little (even if it’s more on AJ) I say a problem has been acknowledged.

    The way I figure it is this – one loss out of five won’t doom us. Maybe if things don’t turn around, Girardi will decide it’s more important to win than to hide and maybe he’ll pair AJ with Molina. Plenty of time to see how that evolves.

    If LA or the Rays make the playoffs and we face either, having Molina behind the dish at some point isn’t a bad idea since both teams like to run on the bases.

  108. bobshantz August 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    It’s time to start complaining again how ridiculous it is that the Division Series is only 5 games. Anything can happen. The effect of the wild card and the short division series is that the best team is less likely to win the World Series than in the Good Old Days.

  109. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    YAY!!!! Thank you Upstate Kate!!!

    :)

  110. upstate kate August 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Maine Yankee- that was a nice article on Jeter, esp the comments by the RS players.

  111. Yankee U August 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Stepping on 2nd got the runner from 2nd who, since it was a cought fly ball, failed to tag up forced out. In theory, Murphy could have returned to first and been safe so had to be tagged or the ball thrown to first before he returned in order to be put out.

  112. MG August 24th, 2009 at 10:25 am

    I just hope the multitude of posters who choose to criticize every error of commission or omission, every swing and miss, every first pitch hit, etc, etc, etc will take one minute adn put this team in perspective-it is very special and going to be a formidable force in the post-season, where anything can happen. There are no guarantees that any team will win the World Series, it’s much more difficult than in the 50s, 60s, and 70s where winning the pennant was all you had to worry about. Under the same setup the only team that would be in contention with the Yankees right now is the Angels and the September series would probably determine the pennant winner. As it stands now, the only thing between the Yankees and a showdown with either the Angels or the wild card team is the first round series with the AL Central winner. I can’t imagine the Tigers beating the Yankees this year, as good as Verlander is he also pitched poorly in the 2006 playoffs so a match up with CC is at best a toss up for the Tigers and the rest of the Yankees rotation has a big advantage over Jackson, Washburn, and Porcello.

  113. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Thank you also Uncle Peco!

  114. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    M:

    yup.

    Duncan is to pitching coaches. What Rudy Jamillo is to hitting coaches.

  115. Tom in N.J. August 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Here’s the video of the Triple Play:

    http://philadelphia.phillies.m.....8;c_id=phi

  116. MaineYankee August 24th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    upstate kate
    August 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am
    Maine Yankee- that was a nice article on Jeter, esp the comments by the RS players.

    —————————————————-

    I think there’s more respect between the players than there is between the fans. :lol:

  117. Tom in N.J. August 24th, 2009 at 10:29 am

    It’s strange because Dave Duncan was a catcher. Hmmmm, best pitching coach in baseball was a former catcher…

  118. GardnerBelongsInCenter August 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Buehrle is like 0-5 since his perfect game. And as much as I wish Peavy was with us, I hope we punish him for accepting a trade to that trash team.

  119. SJ44 August 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    BD,

    The blog is strangely free of Red Sox trolls the last 12 hours.

    Funny how that works, isn’t it?

    This team isn’t letting up on anybody. Its not in their DNA.

    They just keep looking to win series.

    The perfect mentality to have at this stage of the season.

  120. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am

    SJ44-

    That sounds like the real you. Was the guy posting in the game threads really you or imposter you???

  121. Andrew August 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    GardnerBelongsInCenter, don’t forget how poorly David Cone pitched in 1999 after his perfect game. It is a strange thing that happens sometimes–guys pitch differently after they’ve done something like reach perfection. It also probably takes a lot out of a pitcher, between the emotional drain and the performance drain of having to, literally, be perfect on every pitch for 9 innings.

    That said, I don’t think it’s the rule that guys are less effective after a perfect game, because Wells in 1998 pitched extremely well afterwards and almost threw a 2nd perfect game a few starts later.

  122. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) August 24th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    if Texas fails to make the playoffs,

    who wins the AL Manager of the year? Mike Scosia or Girardi ?

  123. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    R
    D
    M
    !!!

    R
    D
    M
    !!!

    Guess our “resident Yankee fan” must have gone on vacation!

    For whatever reason, whenever I type his three initials on the same line, the censor holds the post. I cannot figure this out.

  124. m August 24th, 2009 at 10:36 am

    That was a very nice article on Jeter. Thinking back to that homerun last night (the first one), it was just his classic swing. And it ended up in the bullpen! And how can a park have 3 foot fences? A Chihuahua could jump over that! Heck, Pedroia could jump over that.

    And thank you CC and Tex for picking off Ellsbury. Let him break the steals record against some other team.

  125. SJ44 August 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am

    When you don’t have a pennant race to cover, you work on personalities and controversy.

    That’s the whole deal with the Jorge/AJ “controversy”.

    Its not nearly as big a deal as folks want to make it out to be.

    They aren’t the first pitcher/catcher combo to have a bad day out there.

    The next drop in this “controversy”?

    Molina will probably catch AJ on Thursday because its a day game after a night game. That will elicit more “controversy” because folks will try to read into it more than it is.

    Bottom line…..

    If AJ Burnett wants to pitch in the post-season, he has to figure out a way to work with Jorge because Jorge ain’t sittin’ on the bench in the post-season.

    Given AJ’s history, its up to him to make adjustments. Hopefully, he does because it will make him a much more consistent pitcher.

  126. SJ44 August 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Erica,

    I’m an old man. I died out in about the 4th inning last night.

    It was tough for me to mult-task (post and watch the game) after playing 36 holes in 95 degree heat yesterday.

  127. Erica - always OPPC August 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Thats what I thought.

    I can usually spot imposter SJ44.

  128. Andrew August 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Yeah, AJ will pitch well to Molina on Thursday (this is even more wishing and hoping than usual since I’m going to the game) and the first question asked in the post game will be about if Girardi will pair the two of them up again for AJ’s next start, or if AJ felt more comfortable with Molina, etc. etc. There is nothing in NY worth covering now that the Yankees are on cruise control, the Mets are buried and football isn’t ready to take center stage yet. You have to drive up controversy when possible to keep a baseball fire burning in the papers until October.

  129. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    I think it is HORRENDOUS that an SJ imposter is still being allowed to lurk about. It isn’t fair to us and it isn’t fair to SJ. It sure isn’t fair to the people who look to SJ for guidance and ask if they should or should not be worried about things.

    Pete, please do something about this!

  130. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Thanks for the video Tom. It all made sense as I watched it.

    :)

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