Yankees and Angels down the stretch
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The race is on for home field advantage in the playoffs. The Yankees are 78-46 and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Orange County and Planet Earth are 74-48.
The teams will play four more times head to head. Once at Yankee Stadium on Sept. 14 in a makeup game and three times in Anaheim starting Sept. 21.
Joe Girardi said yesterday that his team will push for home field but not at the expense of making sure his players, especially the pitchers, get the right amount of time off. That makes good sense.
But four games at Yankee Stadium would be a lot more conducive to a World Series berth than four at the House of the Rally Monkey.
Here’s how it looks down the stretch:
Yankees (38 games left): 22 home, 16 away, 23 against teams over .500.
Angels (40 games left): 23 home, 17 away, 26 against teams over. 500
Yankees
Texas (3)
Chicago (3)
At Baltimore (3)
At Toronto (4)
Tampa Bay (4)
Baltimore (3)
Los Angeles (1)
Toronto (2)
At Seattle (3)
At Los Angeles (3)
Boston (3)
Kansas City (3)
At Tampa Bay (3)
Angels
Detroit (3)
Oakland (4)
At Seattle (3)
At Kansas City (4)
Seattle (3)
Chicago (3)
At New York
At Boston (3)
At Texas (3)
New York (3)
Oakland (3)
Texas (4)
At Oakland (3)
The Yankees have an edge, I think. The Angels have a murderous 10 game stretch in September when they play the Yankees four times and the Red Sox three times.
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That’s it for today unless news breaks. Catch you tomorrow.
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I’m not sure I would ever give us an edge over the angels if we still have to play them. I think home field advantage in this instance is a must. There’s just no way we can sit here and conceivably think of beating anaheim in a 7 game series with 4 of those games being played in LA. I understand that this Yankee team is much different and better than that of the last 5 years, but were still 2-4 against them this year. HOME FIELD IS CRITICAL.
CB,
There were quite a few people who questioned whether or not Santana was a smart move at the time because he lost a few ticks and was giving up a copious amount of homeruns.
Santana would’ve been a good pickup imo (not in hindsight, but at the time), but I was really stuck on the talent that would’ve gone to the Twins.
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HFA is of utmost importance. We’re two up in the loss column. If we can take a couple of games at Angel Stadium, it will answer a lot of unnecessary criticism of this team.
We’re 2 up in the loss column and have played 2 more games than them.
Cheering for whomever plays Boston and the Angels from here on out.
In regards to the Johan Santana situation, I’m convinced that he hasn’t been “right” since before we scored 9 runs against him on that Sunday in June. There is going to be hell to pay if he needs Tommy John surgery because it would mean that he won’t be available for 12-15 months and it will mean that the Mets have blown another injury situation. Who will buy tockets to watch them for the rest of this year and into next year.
Our rotation is much better than their rotation.
Our bullpen blows their bullpen away. No more Shields and K-Rod shutting down games.
Both have great offenses though. They have better defense and more speed, we have more power.
On paper, they are not a terrible matchup considering they are built on offense this year rather than pitching like previous years. But they own us, so you have to keep that i mind.
“Joe Girardi said yesterday that his team will push for home field but not at the expense of making sure his players, ”
What kind of pathetic attitude is that?
The players have all winter to rest. They have 3-4 days after the season ends before the ALDS even starts.
They need to push to the end. We cannot win in LA. We are like what, 6-17 against them in LA since 05? The idea is to get ourselves in the best position to win a WS, not rest guys.
Yeah, we don’t need to make CC throw 120 pitches or make Rivera pitch 3 days in a row or something, but we should not let up until we clinch homefield.
I have every confidence this team can win on the road. They’ve proven that.
But having last licks at NYS? Priceless.
we went up to boston and won… next month hopefully we will go out to la and do the same. let’s see who the better team is. methinks ’tis us/we
homefield would be great but girardi is not gonna push his starters (position and pitchers) just to chase the angels….even when we rest players i still think we have a great chance to win
Home field advantage?
Well it’s definitely cool that we’re talking like that.
I think HFA could have helped them out a couple of times.
2005 going to LA for game 5. That’s when Bubba and Sheff sort of collided.
2007 against Cleveland. No midges on River Ave.
Boston is going to beat LA in the ALDS anyway, guarantee it. LA never beats Boston in a big spot. Their offense won’t hit Beckett/Lester. Lackey/Weaver can’t pitch in Fenway. They have no bullpen.
So even if we don’t get homefield, it won’t matter because we would have HFA over BOS. No need to go all out when we don’t need to.
Boston will knock out LA, we will knock out Boston.
A couple thoughts as a Yankees fan in exile in the OC.
Vin Scully said it best. When speaking at a local charity event he introduced himself as the broadcast for “The Los Angeles Dodgers of Los Angeles.” Reportedly, Arte Moreno was sitting in the front row, and was properly put in his place by the only person in these parts with the authority to do so. Gotta love Vinny.
I work near the stadium. If the Yankees lose to the Angels, I’ll be forced to endure plush rally monkeys attached to my car, placed in my mailbox, or packaged as gifts. Oh, the humiliation of it all! The stadium is a good place to see a game, but the whole enterprise still has “Disney” written all over it.
It has only been in the last few years that Angel fans attempt to shout down the “lets go Yankees” chant. If they have a couple of poor seasons, the place will be empty again. Angel fans are the most fair weather fans I’ve ever seen.
Who says we can’t win in LA? The Angels had the Sox for lunch last year, until the post season, same in ‘07. Why shouldn’t we be able to do the same? We have a great team in all categories- starters, relievers, offense, defense. There is no reason to think the Yankees can’t win in LA…its like saying they can’t win at Fenway
Who says Boston’s going to make the playoffs anyway?
Yeah, some “pathetic attitude”.
Please, have a clue. They may not even play the Angels in the post-season.
It would be patently dumb to blow out players the rest of the year to push for the best record. If it happens, great.
If not, they will survive.
http://sports.espn.go.com/stat.....id=4419715
Must Listen!!!!
You will be blown away. Gammons falling over himself to compliment the Yankees (warning, he couldn’t resist one RS WS reference).
But pay very careful attention to what he says about Jeter. It explains a lot about why he was underperforming the last two seasons. And I think you’ll understand that the team is feeding off of Jeter.
Oc Yankees,
Hilarious.
Remember when Buster Olney kept pushing Brad Penny to the Phillies for Jason Doland?
I know our lead over the Sox is big and the thought of even possibly not winning the division should be gone, but there’s a big part of me that will not like taking that as a given until the day we clinch…
“Angel fans are the most fair weather fans I’ve ever seen.”
Amen. I lived there for 3 years, and that’s exactly what I experienced.
A-Rod had 65 walks last year in 510 ABs
A-Rod has 64 walks this year in 326 ABs
GO WHITE SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
m- thanks for the link, nice to hear compliments from Gammons. I have long thought this team started to change when Melky and Robbie came up w/ their youthful enthusiasm.
Hokiehill- I agree
can someone please tell me what IMO and IMHO and all those other abbreviations found only on this blog stand for??? THANKS!!!
IMO = In My Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
FWIW
“can someone please tell me what IMO and IMHO and all those other abbreviations found only on this blog stand for??? THANKS!!!”
IMO= in my opinion
IMHO= in my humble opinion
Plenty of fans gave up on Phil Hughes because of his August 2007 struggles. Before those injuries, I’m not sure how many fans would have been so eager to give up on him. Michael Kay was actually a prime example of this. Of course he’s not a fan, but he kept saying (and I think Leiter said this, too, which shocked me) that he didn’t see anything special in Phil, etc…..Kay made a daily habit of knocking Phil. I could never understand why people in the game didn’t understand how devastating those injuries were to Phil and how long it took him to recover. Even when he pitched well in September and the post-season, Kay harped on Phil. It wasn’t even just Kay – scouts and experts (like Keith Law) just gave up on him…and these people are in the business!
IMO (In my opinion) and IMHO (in my honest opinion) are not only on this blog.
Plus IIRC (If I Remember Correctly), etc.
Thanks for link on Gammons, who has buried his head in a pillow, and is crying softly…
The nostalgic 2004 revisit all too predictable, lol.
Could Belicheck deal with Millar?
No, because the former has too high a regard for defense.
Hey Trish – here’s hoping WS run all over Boston.
We didn’t need to, because we pounded them with slug.
IDK?
Does it really matter? The Red Sox will find a way with their experience to make it into the postseason over Tampa and Texas. And then they will play the Angels in the first round. And then they will beat the Angels in 3 games, maybe 4. So really, the Angels aren’t even a factor.
Betsy- then they must have short memories. what about Phil’s almost no-hitter against Texas? What about the fact that he was the only pitcher to have a win against Cleveland in the play offs? I think last years problems were related to 1- too much pressure on him & IPK, 2- no run support in the early games, so he was trying to be perfect,and giving up too many walks as a consequence and 3- pitching to a variety of catchers after Jorge was hurt. A young pitcher needs an experienced catcher behind the plate, or at least one who knows him. It seemed lkie he had a different catcher every time he pitched.
Yanks are rolling…don’t worry…be happy!
Only thing that makes baseball tough to watch…
pitchers that walk too many batters!
Important thing is this…
Yanks are putting together a great season!
“Michael Kay was actually a prime example of this. Of course he’s not a fan, but he kept saying (and I think Leiter said this, too, which shocked me) that he didn’t see anything special in Phil, etc…..Kay made a daily habit of knocking Phil.”
im pretty sure kay is a fan. he was born and raised in the bronx..tells numerous stories of games he went to in YS and said it was his dream since he was 10 to be the yankee announcer..i doubt he was lying about all those things..
Upstate Kate, I think Phil was suffering the effects of the rib injury prior to being diagnosed. That would explain why his command was just so off………I understood the desire for Santana, but Phil at the time was 21 years old and had been the jewel of the farm system. I think fans were so enamored with Joba, also, that Phil became the forgotten one.
Ralphie, I didn’t mean that Kay is not a fan of the game….but he’s not a Fan capital “F” like you or I. He makes a living in baseball – he really should have known better with some of the comments he made about Phil.
Betsy – Would you be complaining about Kay if he said those same things about Joba?
“Ralphie, I didn’t mean that Kay is not a fan of the game….but he’s not a Fan capital “F” like you or I. He makes a living in baseball – he really should have known better with some of the comments he made about Phil.”
i dont know about that neccessarily…i listen to him quite often and he seems to really like the yanks…sometimes to the point of sounding silly he likes them so much..but you might be right
So who still wants Johan over CC with his broken elbow in what would have been just in time for the playoff push?
Where the hell has David Cone been?
Tom in N.J.
August 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
IDK?
i think it is i didnt know
is santanna hurt ?
is santanna hurt ?
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The Mets reported today that Johan Santana will miss his next start and visit Dr. Altcheck because of persistent pain in his elbow. Most folks that he will have to be shut down for the rest of the season…bjut thats not definate at this time.
From last post:
“bjut” should be “but”
“i dont know about that neccessarily…i listen to him quite often and he seems to really like the yanks…sometimes to the point of sounding silly he likes them so much..but you might be right”
Kay is definitely a Yankee fan which shouldn’t come into play in his ability to do his job properly, but when you’re the Yankee PBP guy and also a radio sports talk host, there is going to be some conflict due to the contrasting job responsibilities.
MMUTONB
Meet Me Under The O’Neill Banner
jpb1973
August 24th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
is santanna hurt ?
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The Mets reported today that Johan Santana will miss his next start and visit Dr. Altcheck because of persistent pain in his elbow. Most folks that he will have to be shut down for the rest of the season…bjut thats not definate at this time.
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they need to clean house starting with the medical staff.
the job they did this year is terrible
“Byut”–I thought it was Swedish.
Oh I think he likes the Yankees, Ralphie….he may not root for them (he’s got to be objective), but he knows the players in a way we never will, so he probably roots for them personally.
m
August 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/stat…..id=4419715
Must Listen!!!!
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Thanks m for the attached. Reposted it for everyone to listen if they just missed it.
Could Wagner invoke his NTC to be a setup reliever for Papelbon, who doesn’t seem to want any changes in the current bullpen?
Apparently, Johan has not been throwing between starts since the ASB. I don’t get why the Mets took chances with this guy. If he was that uncomfortable, why not send him to the DR. at that time? Remember …..the guy also had elbow discomfort (or was it pain?) this past spring…….
Betsy- yes, you are right, I am sure Phil was injured awhile before he let anyone know
Contreas is pitching tonight,he has 11 losses.White Sox lead the majors in errors over 190,their SS has 16 errors himself.
White Sox don’t play well at Fenway and Contreras especially doesn’t do well there.
Interested in how Martinez will do catching Wakefield when he comes back. Passed balls, stolen bases anyone?
White Sox have a pathetic record. Goodness gracious. And they’re only 2.5 GB.
How were the game threads over the weekend?
Predictable?
How did GTLU go without the its Grand Exhalted Mystic Ruler running the show?
I hope Contreras performs well in front of Theo, the man who threw a hissy fit and broke a chair when he didn’t sign with the Sox.
That’s Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler
Verlander/Jackson/Porcello/Washburn will be a tough 5 game series
don’t know why people want them instead of the White Sox… just because they won a series from us? so did the washington nationals….
white sox are 2 games over .500 they are not scary…
White Sox are starting Contreras and Freddy Garcia in their first 2 games against Boston. We get to face those 2 over the weekend too.
m-
White Sox are underperforming, because on paper they’re one of the most balanced teams in respect to speed, power, and pitching. IMHO they would be a difficult opponent in the playoffs if Peavy regains his form.
In an ALDS series, Detroit is a worse matchup because of their pitching.
White Sox don’t have a pitcher as good as Verlander or Jackson, even if Peavy regains his form. And we’ll face them 3 times in a 5 game series.
In a 7 game series, the White Sox are a worse matchup because their back end of the rotation is better with Danks and Floyd. Plus they have a deep bullpen and a deep lineup.
We have a higher probability of hitting Peavy/Burhlee than we do Verlander/Jackson.
The White Sox are crap. I have no idea why people are scared of them.
They have underperformed all season long.
There is no such thing as a favorable or scary matchup in October.
You would think people would have learned this after years and years of the “underdogs” beating the favorites in short series. Look at us in 2006. Not a person in America thought we’d lose to Detroit. We didn’t just lose, we were non-competitive in the last 2 games.
Anything can happen. Just enjoy the ride, don’t stress.
Yankee Trader,
I don’t even know how to respond to that, lol.
I’m of firm belief that Kenny Williams is afraid that Ozzie will torch his house if he changes managers.
I think a new manager would do wonders for that team. They’re much too talented to be 2 games over .500.
I am cheering for the White Sox. The AL Central would be our ALDS opponent if we have the best record and an AL East team grabs the wild card.
I’m not worried about the postseason until they have an opponent.
One day at a time.
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 20 to tie #4)
August 24th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
How were the game threads over the weekend?
Predictable?
How did GTLU go without the its Grand Exhalted Mystic Ruler running the show?
*****
That’s Ms. Grand Exhalted Mystic Ruler to you
And it didn’t happen. Seemed to be a lack of interest when I threw the idea there
“That’s Ms. Grand Exhalted Mystic Ruler to you
And it didn’t happen. Seemed to be a lack of interest when I threw the idea there”
You are indeed the Straw that stirs GTLP
If Amazon.com sells the oddest stuff:
http://www.amazon.com/Uranium-.....sbs_misc_4
I’m calling revisionist history on the GTLUN.
MMUTONB
Meet Me Under The O’Neill Banner
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Still makes me laugh
The Rays are up 3-0 on Halladay and the Jays. Guaranteed the Sox will win tonight.
I think Youk is gripping his bat a little tighter after this weekend.
And I threw up a little in my mouth after I typed that.
Nick in SF
August 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I’m calling revisionist history on the GTLUN.
does the “N” stand for Nick edition?
I feel a brohaha of O’Neill Banner proportions in the making.
Nick in SF and Erica are “not on the same page”
I wonder if Willie put a curse on the Mets. What a disaster of a season. Now Santana? Was Jerry Manuel cackling like a hyena when he delivered the news?
Oh, man. Youkilis must’ve been crying on that called strike 3.
I hate Fenway.
What’s wrong w/Halladay? Given up 5 H and 3 Runs in 1 inning already tonigh
Alan,
Yes, guaranteed the Sox will win tonight. The question is which color will they be?
pat,
Unhappy camper?
I dont really have anything to add to this thread. I just to say Thank You to Mr. Peter Abraham for doing such a GREAT job. I appreciate all your hard work and get a kick out of your dry sense of humor. You really are one funny Dude! Keep up the good work.
P.S.”We play today we will today das it” Mariano Duncan 1996
Uncle Ellsworth, the “N” does not stand for Nick. In this case it stands for a leadership style that Erica has openly embraced.
Nick in SF
August 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Uncle Ellsworth, the “N” does not stand for Nick. In this case it stands for a leadership style that Erica has openly embraced.
****
This is in fact, true.
I got some horrible news just before. Thank you guys for making me laugh.
hope all is ok, Erica
Erica, that’s what we’re here for. Sorry about your horrible news and I hope it ends up being not so horrible.
Sorry about the horrible news Erica. Hope all is okay.
This should cheer you up:
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.....dngA5l.jpg
Rays have scored 3 on Halladay already and it’s only the second inning.. Wouldnt mind seeing the Rays win tonight and always want to see Boston lose. Those Sox fans here in MA are very quiet now:)
Thanks guys-
I am okay. An old childhood friend of mine died today from cancer. He was actually my first boyfriend and the first boy I ever slow danced with at the 6th grade dance. Our moms were really good friends too. He was only 29 years old. We had lost touch through the years, but I am absolutely heartbroken at this news. Life really sucks sometimes. I can’t even imagine what his mother is going through.
Sorry to hear you’ve had bad news Erica. Best wishes go out to you.
my condolences, Erica…
Erica: my condolences, that’s awful.
Erica-My condolences.
b r e a k i n g : http://www.nesn.com has two articles of intrest.
1 Cards say Smoltz was tipping his pitches,Duncan and La Russa explain.
2 Jim Price is eating crow again.
Erica, I’m so sorry. 29 is much too young to die. I’ve had relatives that had cancer – devastating disease. My thoughts go out to you and your friend’s family.
Jim Rice?
sorry Erica
Thanks everyone. I didn’t mean to depress everyone. Just can’t really get my head around this news.
Please carry on with the baseball talk
Erica, just awful. Recently, my younger brother has battled cancer and it is an awful disease.
My condolences.
Whit Sox first on the board 2-0
Erica – I’m sorry for your loss. Hang in.
Sox are up 2-0 over Buchhoze and the Socks.
Erica sorry for your loss. 29 is just too young.
Anyone know if the Mets have hired someone to come and remove the hex that has been put on their team? At this point the number of injuries is just insane. You’d think they’d have someone come and remove the evil spirits that in habit the building.
AJ Burnett’s favorite catcher just hit a grand slam to give the Blue Jays a 4-3 lead over Tampa. Can Halladay settle down now that he has a lead? Stay tuned.
Erica –
sorry to hear the sad news about your old friend. It’s a terrible way to teach us to live each day to the fullest!
ok, I’ll try to make you smile –
I can’t believe you slow danced in the 6th grade with those gigantic Amazonian grade school feet!
Anyone know if the Mets have hired someone to come and remove the hex that has been put on their team? At this point the number of injuries is just insane. You’d think they’d have someone come and remove the evil spirits that in habit the building.
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Maybe they should start by tearing down Citibank Field and rebuilding Shea Stadium. They never had this sort of bad karma in Shea.
Hang in there, Erica.
DT-
LOL. That helped. I totally had the biggest feet in the class too. My friends always made fun of me. I was 11 years old and I think my feet were a size 8.
Here’s a hint- I wasn’t at full height then and my feet kept growing too
jpb1973
August 24th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Anyone know if the Mets have hired someone to come and remove the hex that has been put on their team? At this point the number of injuries is just insane. You’d think they’d have someone come and remove the evil spirits that in habit the building.
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Maybe they should start by tearing down Citibank Field and rebuilding Shea Stadium. They never had this sort of bad karma in Shea.
*****
You are right. There is a valuable lesson here. If a cat runs on the field on Opening Day, stop playing baseball immediately and knock down the stadium
4-1 WHT SOX
Go Jays and Pale Hose.
Erica are we talking Peggy Hill big?
I just stuck on ESPNs gameday for the Red Sox – white Sox game.
Bucholtz was pitching to Konerko so their headshots popped up. Too funny. They look like a couple of extras from Deliverance.
My goodness, size wise, Rex Ryan is like 2 CC’s combined.
While injuries happen with every team, the number of injuries that the Mets have is unbelievable. There doesn’t seem to be a consistent type of injury, and some of it is just plain bad luck, it should be looked at from an organizational stance.
When the Yankees had a string of hamstring/quad injuries they got rid of the conditioning coach. You aren’t going to eliminate the injuries, but a lot of these guys are out for a long time and it makes you wonder if they just aren’t treating them right or addressing the overall problem.
When there are this many things that are going wrong you can’t keep chalking it up to bad luck or karma.
“Erica are we talking Peggy Hill big?”
Well put it this way…
When Erica told each boyfriend – “don’t fool around or I’ll KICK your butt” –
they looked at her feet with eyes wide, thought about that painful kick, gulped, and meekly said “Yes, ma’am”
S.A.–Serenity Now August 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
My goodness, size wise, Rex Ryan is like 2 CC’s combined.
******
Someone get him a girdle.
J#s#n B#y making things happen again. He must be the top candidate for MVP this season.
Contreras needs to drill him in/between the eyeballs a couple of times.
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Halladay has seemed to be having troubles since it was announced that they would be fielding offers for him. He isn’t getting great run support, but he hasn’t been as dominating either.
Halladay is probably hoping to get away from the Jays at this point. It will be interesting to see if he gets dealt over the winter or if they keep him to start the season.
There could also be lingering effects from the groin injury. Hughes took a long time till he was back from the hamstring.
Rex Hudler is weird lol
Mark Sanchez is not off to a great start. Pick returned for TD.
Obviously, he’s going to have a terrible career. Just garbage.
(I hope anybody with a brain knows sarcasm when they see it.)
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 20 to tie #4)
August 24th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Erica are we talking Peggy Hill big?
***
I don’t know who Peggy Hill is.
I will say this. I am extremely concerned that if I ever have children this will cause my feet to expand and and I will require specially made shoes
Man, Jason Marquis has a ton of fans from SI. Just about the whole Little League team from Staten Island named him as their favorite. I get that he played there, but still.
um – an out would be good here, contreras
“I don’t know who Peggy Hill is.”
She’s a character from the shoe “King of the Hill” who needs to go to Mexico to buy shoes so no one in her community sees her. The she changes the “16″ on the sole to “6″
Abda…whatever –
I have to think Halladay is still suffering from the lingering effects of his groin injury. It took Hughes almost all year to recover from his hamstring injury. Pitchers really depend on their legs for their mechanics.
Most famous case of this was probably Dizzy Dean. He was absolutely flat out dominant, arguably the best pitcher in baseball, until he hurt his toe in an AllStar game. As a result, he changed his delivery and ruined his arm. He was esentially done at age 28.
I would think Halladay would be back to his standard next season.
what a terrible terrible play by contreras…that is embarassing…wow
How did we do so poorly against the White soxs? Gosh they stink!
Staten Island loves their own. Marquis played for that Little League AND he gave them a motivational pep talk before one of their games recently. Tottenville High School’s finest, is Mr. Marquis. Good to see him succeeding this year in Colorado (as someone who calls SI the hometown, though not presently and hopefully not ever again)
Jose Contreras in gull meltdown mode and some folks on here are worried about the White Sox.
They aren’t going to be in the playoffs so, nothing to worry about.
hey – that kid who got the RBI had Tex listed as his fav
Contreras with just a disgraceful performance tonight.
Great to see he’s the same gutless wonder he was with the Yankees.
Geez.
That little league team only likes Jason Marquis because Jim Rice hasn’t yet told them not to.
Very nice fielding play by Contreras….NOT!
Contreras is so old he can retire & start collecting social security immediately…………
lol White Sox
They are 2 games over .500 for a reason. They had once nice series against us and people treat them like they are the Angels.
Complete meltdown for Contreras.
Erica, are we talking Bob Lainer size feet? Or, just big for a woman. Personaly, I’m a size 13th in a half and my friends call me “Frodo” because they say I have Hobbit feet.
Contreras
Contreras makes an error fielding a dribbler from Ortiz, walks in a run, then throws a wild pitch to tie the game. Then he gives up a three run home run to Lowell.
And people are worried about a team with this joker pitching for them. Don’t make me laugh.
Contreras makes an error fielding a dribbler from Ortiz, walks in a run, then throws a wild pitch to tie the game. Then he gives up a three run home run to Lowell.
And people are worried about a team with this joker pitching for them. Don’t make me laugh.
Wow. Are the White Sox bad. Contreras had the bases loaded with 2 outs and 3 -0 pitch to David Ortiz. They let Ortiz swing away and he hit a soft dribbler down the first base line. Instead of letting Konerko simply pick the ball up and wait for Ortiz in the baseline, Contreras tried to field it and never picked the ball up. One run scored.Contreras then walked the next batter on 4 pitches to score a run. Contreras then tied the game by throwing a wild pitch. Tie game. Lowell then hits a 3 run homer. to give Boston a 7-4 lead
Boston scored their first run when ,with runners on 1st & 3rd and the #9 hitter up with 2 outs, the Red Sox sent the runner from first and purposely got into a rundown. The runner from 3rd just jogged home.
Chicago is a bad team that is poorly managed.
Cuba would not take him back.
COM-PLETE
MELT-DOWN!
Wow insane, EPIC FAIL for the white sox.
3 BB, 1 HBP on an 0-2 pitch, an error, and a 3 run HR for 6 runs to torch a 6 run lead and the game for the White Sox. Nice performance by Contreras.
The White Sox aren’t going anywhere. This roadtrip will put them out of the race.
There’s the Contreras we remember.
Settling in with a glass of wine and the Little League World Series…loving those kids from SI
84 Pitches in the 3RD,and CONTREAS walks in 2 runs bases loaded and hits a player ANOTHER run scores, then Lowell hits home run wow! 7-4 RS
0 runs turns into 6…im actually happy for contreras…he did it to himself..
You have a guy like Contreras in your rotation, you get what you deserve.
D.J. Carrasco throws one strike, gets one out.
Tom in N.J.
August 24th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Erica, are we talking Bob Lainer size feet? Or, just big for a woman. Personaly, I’m a size 13th in a half and my friends call me “Frodo” because they say I have Hobbit feet.
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Very large for a woman. I can’t usually buy shoes in a store and have to order then online. But they are smaller than yours when i choose to convert to men’s shoes
and what about Halladay letting the Rays back in?
It’s ok. It will just hurt that much more when Bucholz gives up the lead.
“Settling in with a glass of wine and the Little League World Series…loving those kids from SI ”
Rishi,
If that sentence came from anyone else I would find it very creepy… but you’re OK (I think).
It’s why all the worry about the White Sox is a waste of time.
They aren’t going to the playoffs.
One lucky weekend against the Yankees does not make them a playoff team.
They aren’t a good team.
vin
August 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“Settling in with a glass of wine and the Little League World Series…loving those kids from SI ”
Rishi,
If that sentence came from anyone else I would find it very creepy… but you’re OK (I think).
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Why is Paul “Fitzy” Fitzgerald is the NESN booth?
We face Contreras next Saturday.
Erica-
My condolences to you and his family.
Whoever referred to your feet as that of Peggy Hill should be b-slapped!
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No need to explain. Just found it funny.
Remember the hullaballoo when Contreras came out of Cuba? I think of that when I read about Aroldis Chapman. But then I think of what Cash said he learned from Gene Michael – that you can never shy away from big game hunting. I guess when you have the money, you can take risks. That, and having some good scouting.
Contreras sucks. Buerhle, Danks and Floyd don’t. That’s all you need in a Best of 5 series. I happen to think that our front 3 is better, but don’t think that just because Contreras stinks that the rest of them do as well.
Harold Reynolds Mo is the CY Young
Al Liter says CC Sabathia
Halladay gives up 3 more runs… tied at 6-6 in Tampa
Contreras might be Chapman’s grandfather.
I always thought that with Contreras it was more like deep-sea fishing.
Nick in SF August 24th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Contreras might be Chapman’s grandfather.
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The Sox are going to win the wild card anyway…….I can’t get upset about them taking the lead on the Sox. At least Bucholz didn’t pitch well…..
Rishi – what are you doing in Houston? Live there?
How did Contreras put that great year together in Chicago when the White Soxs were World Champs…How????
Remember the pitching coach was going to be canonized by ESPN????
How did that all come unglued?
Rather how did the glue hold for a full season?
Wow, Halladay. Phil’s leg injuries were really serious…..I’m not saying a groin injury is a pleasant thing, but it shouldn’t have this much of an effect, should it? I tend to think that Doc is suffering a complete let down from not being traded……I feel for him. I really do not look forward to the winter because the Sox are going to make a huge play for him……..
We’ve had great success with one Cuban defector-El Duque.
Wasn’t there a 3rd baseman whose contract we had voided?
Age issue?
Carl – did anyone else get any consideration?
“Contreras might be Chapman’s grandfather.”
Too bad Angel Berroa isn’t Cuban… would’ve made for a nice follow-up.
I wonder if Doc is still hurt. He has been awful since he strained a muscle.
Halladay is either in Operation Shut Down mode or he is still hurt and/or mechanically screwed up because of his previous leg injury. I wonder if The Sox will leak another rumor saying that they offered a boatload of prospects for Roy if he keeps putting up clunkers.
Joe from Long Island
August 24th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Rishi – what are you doing in Houston? Live there?
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nope – here for some meetings, heading to Wilmington, DE tomorrow evening (that’s where my current client is) and back home (long island) on Thursday…
Rishi August 24th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Carl – did anyone else get any consideration?
Verlander Beckett but Liter kept on coming back to CC. Harold kept on coming back to Mo.
Joe, that very thing that Cash learned from stick is incredibly important. A gun-shy GM is not going to be a good GM. Of course, it helps that the free agents that the Yankees signed are basically solid citizens in addition to being pretty darned talented (unlike the Pavanos and Wrights of the world).
Halladay gives up a HR to Pena… now 8 runs given up.
Betsy
If Halladay is traded to the Red Sox over the winter, they’ll be paying thru the nose in prospects. I wouldn’t worry. They’ll have more pressing salary issues with Bay and Dice-K.
I would vote for Verlander or Greinke. CC’s been great this month, but before the last few starts, he was not on the radar. I’d like to think a pitcher who’s been great all year would get it…..
Jaret Wright wasn’t a good citizen?
Betsy,
Halladay isnt a free agent till after the 2010 season. If Boston wants to give away their entire farm system for a pitcher turning 34, in the long run it’s better for the Yanks IMO.
actually, up until recently, I would have voted for Beckett. He’s still not out of play for me, but obviously there is a lot of time.
Mo? I worship the guy – he’s my favorite Yankee – but, no. He’ll probably have the Reliever of the Year award named after him when he retires, but before then? I’m afraid he goes awardless. It doesn’t matter, though. The looks on the All-Stars when Mo was pitching means more to me than a Cy Young or an MVP or any other award.
# Betsy August 24th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I would vote for Verlander or Greinke. CC’s been great this month, but before the last few starts, he was not on the radar. I’d like to think a pitcher who’s been great all year would get it…..
What?
Would be nice if CC wins it, he has carried us… the best pitcher on the best team in baseball. Pitches better as the season goes on and the games get bigger. That’s what you like to see.
I suppose that’s true (about giving the farm away from Doc), but man, all I can think about is Doc, Beckett and Lester………that’s total lockdown.
This stretch is a fluke for Doc – he’s either injured or just deflated from all the trade talk and subsequent non-trade. Wow, 8 runs………..this makes the Sox performance against him less imnpressive,lol. Seriously, I feel badly for him – he must be so frustrated. When’s the last time Doc got hammered like this two starts in a row, when he was in the big leagues for the first time?
Buerhle has not been good since his no hitter,floyd is very beatable,so is danks.
not one as good as cc
If CC gets to 20 wins, there is a very good chance he gets it. Has to get that ERA down though, below 3.50.
If Grienke played for a decent team, even the Tigers,he have 16 wins easily by now. I think he’s the best in the league this year.
Not sure if anyone here gets New York Magazine but…
I just got this weeks issue (Fall Preview) and there is a cartoon of Derek Jeter in a chorus line kick on the cover
Up until the Boston series, I thought Cano would have a good chance for his 1st gold glove. Jeter and Teixeira deserve theirs.
I hope Halladay didn’t teach this spontaneous combustion thing to AJ.
Wow.. The Jets are looking great and a 4-12 season awaits them..
Doc is not being his usual self lately, Might in part be due to his DL stint or perhaps distraction led to bad mechanics.
Carl……..what do you mean, what? You really think CC has pitched as well as Greinke or Verlander all year? After today’s events, I refuse to get into an argument with anyone. If you are interested in a civil discussion, fine……
very few pitchers are as good as cc
so glad we have him. what a stud
“I hope Halladay didn’t teach this spontaneous combustion thing to AJ.”
You may be too late… LOL
Betsy;
The only real trading chip Boston has to offer for Halladay is Papelbon. Their farm system is overrated / overhyped as evidenced by the shellacking that Bowden took from the Yankees and he’s supposedly their top pitching prospect.
NL CY Young- Chris Carpenter?
NL MVP- Albert Pujols?
NL representative in WS- Cardinals?
Erica, New York magazine raked the Yankees over the coals in ST…..my mother gets the mag, but I won’t read anything Yankee oriented in it anymore, lol
id hope halladay’s struggles are from an injury and not because he has given up like some people think…it would be a real shame if the guy gives up on his team after not being traded..its not his teammates fault hes still there
CC’s rough April might have buried him in the CY Young chase… it doesn’t matter though. He can take pride in knowing he was the reliable stud ace on the best team in the league.
Alan, you could be right, though there is Bucholz, Bard and Anderson. It’s not something I’m thinking about right now though……….just not looking forward to the whole process all over again.
Doc probably doesn’t have his heart into pitching this season. Look at what the guy has been through. Look at the team he has playing behind him. He’s probably thinking “Why should I bring my A level stuff for these scrubs?”.
Let Greinke have the CY Y oung… Sabathia can win the NLCS or WS MVP instead
Ralphie, I would never suggest Doc willingly gave up…just that subconsciously the non-trade could have affected him. Doc has way too much integrity to ever mail anything in – he just wouldn’t do it.
“Carl……..what do you mean, what? You really think CC has pitched as well as Greinke or Verlander all year? After today’s events, I refuse to get into an argument with anyone. If you are interested in a civil discussion, fine……”
im not saying that CC wins the CY young but its not about being great the whole year…its where your at when the season is over…usually you have to be great the whole year to win it but sometimes you start slow and go on a tear
NL CY YOUNG- Lincecum/Carpenter
NL MVP- Albert Pujols(without a doubt)
AL CY YOUNG- Greinke/Verlander/Sabathia
AL MVP- Tex/Mauer/Jeter
I only mentioned Sabathia because he is on a winning team, and he usually gets stronger in second half and competing well lowering his ERA and getting more K’s.
But again Verlander and Greinke are the top two for AL Cy’s in my opinion.
What ya think Betsy?
i doubt the cardinals can get by the phillies.
Ralphie, I didn’t mean to suggest that Doc willingly gave up – he’s got way too much integrity for that. I just mean that subconsciously the non-trade could have affected him. If it’s the groin injury, boy that must have been a bad one.
Come on… the guy almost gets to go to a stud contender like Boston or Philly and even the Angels made a late play. It seemed inevitable he was finally going to be playing meaningful games. He was probably counting down the minutes to the deadline and the rug got pulled from out under him.
Can’t be easy to mentally re-adjust to pitching in irrelevant Toronto.
Greinke isn’t going to win the Cy Young.
His ERA is still outstanding but he’s not going to have enough wins and his team sucks.
“Ralphie, I would never suggest Doc willingly gave up…just that subconsciously the non-trade could have affected him. Doc has way too much integrity to ever mail anything in – he just wouldn’t do it.”
i dont think he has given up either…just a really bad stretch for him…but frankly, there really is no way for us as fans to really know
GF that’s why I mentioned Verlander or Sabathia.
Both on contending teams and are getting stronger during the second half.
Ralphie, that’s true……and if CC’s #s are worthy, then I sure hope he wins it. I don’t spend much time worrying about awards…
Kelvin, those are fine choices….I’d like to see Carpenter win over Lincecum, but I doubt that will happen.
That groin injury that Halladay had probably limits the way he can drive off the ball.
Boston’s prospects are probably not too enticing for the Jays. Given the way Halladay is having troubles right now you have to think that it will make it less likely to trade him for a great package this winter.
I think they will wait till the season gets underway in any event.
Buchholz has really turned the corner this year and has become a cog in Boston’s rotation. He’d be their #3 starter if the playoffs started today.
His value is going to be sky-high this winter if they decide to trade him.
What are you talking about.
Ever think maybe Halladay is turning 34 and starting to decline? Has that even entered into your mind?
That must be a joke to think Halladay is “letting down” because he wasn’t traded. Its just complete crap. This guy has pitched in Toronto his entire career, many years far away from playoff contention.
Guys like Doc have a certain pride when they take the mound. He’s giving 100%.
Now maybe its the groin or a result of compensating for it. But he’s also entering his mid 30s with a lot of miles on his arm.
God forbid if the Sox get him! Something else to fret about for the next couple of months.
Boston scored 8 of their 9 runs on two outs.
Matt, Bucholz has not pitched well tonight……he looks good only in comparison to Contreras, lol
Sox are hitting the heck out of the ball…….so much for their weak offense that everyone was talking about….
The Red Sox need Buchholz for themselves. Why would they trade someone like that when their rotation has stunk for the last two months?
They have a ton of question marks after Lester and Beckett.
Matsuzaka is a huge question mark and Wakefield can’t pitch forever.
They need to keep guys like Buchholz. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for them to trade him, especially since the upcoming FA market is terrible.
Betsy August 24th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Sox are hitting the heck out of the ball…….so much for their weak offense that everyone was talking about….
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They still can’t score consistently away from their home ballpark.
It amazes me how people still care about the Red Sox.
Regarding CC and the silly argument about who deserves a Cy Young award and why.
Most people understand that the Cy Young award goes to the best pitcher for that particular year.
So who cares if he hasn’t been the most dominant pitcher all year? Can you even name any pitcher that has been? Not Beckett. Not Verlander. Not Grienke.
Most baseball fans understand there will be peaks and valleys in a season. No one dominates all year. That’s why you don’t see pitchers with 35-0 records.
Try and grasp this. If CC continues on the roll he’s on now, he will run away with the Cy Young. And he will receive it because he’s the best pitcher in the AL for 2009. Pretty simple.
Johan needs surgery!?!?!?
All the Cy talk and no mention of Santana. All Yankee fans should take a deep breath. The Yankees don’t have Santana. All the warning signs were there – drop in velocity, going away from sliders etc. The Yankees would have a gutted team today if that big trade had gone through. Another bonus – no Hank in the papers.
How good do you think Buccholz will be, GF? Is he really their only good young (though at 25 he’s getting up there) young pitching prospect? If that’s the case, I would agree with you……unless of course they think he’s not more than a #3. Then you probably have to trade him……
“God forbid if the Sox get him! Something else to fret about for the next couple of months.”
lol Miggs… it is the same story.
Some people just can’t enjoy what they have… always complain complain, moan, moan.
If you can’t enjoy this season, being the best team in baseball and having the division wrapped up in mid-August with a great team that is likeable and fun to watch with all the comeback wins and pies and all…. then when can you have fun?
yeah – that 3 run HR was great from Buccholz
GF, lol I really don’t. People were talking about the Sox game, that’s all. I never would have posted updates on them nor would I even have checked the score. I care about them only insofar as I think they are a dangerous team ……
I feel bad for Blue Jays fans. The compensation for not getting stud prospects to help rebuild the team was that they would get one year of watching Halladay pitch. Now he stinks and the Jays missed the boat on selling him.
I can’t imagine a scenario where the Blue Jays get more for Halladay this offseason then they could have gotten at the deadline. I guess if Lackey walks then the Angels might get desperate, but that’s about it.
Mlbnetwork said some players are saying Johan needs surgery. Mets players that is.
Ok, the Red Sox might win today but they still have no #3 starter. It’s all good.
Clay(4.2 innings) out after giving up a 3 HR W SOX-7 RS-9
Now we know Matt is a Red Sox troll. Buccholz gives up 7 runs, now he’s a “cog” in their rotation.
LOL.
CC is a low-maintenance pitcher. Doesn’t get to emotional, isin’t wild, doesn’t need mound visits and catchers visits, doesn’t cause controversy, doesn’t take 10 minutes to throw a pitch, etc. He just goes out there and wins.
He may not win the CY Young but he is the ace of the team that has the best record.
The Blue Jays can’t trade the Doc in division. They might as well put up a sign – “Going out of business sale”. They just gave away Rios for nothing but money.
The Yanks need to avoid Anaheim at all costs. They will sweep us. We can only pray that the Sox make it (GULP) so they can dispose of Anaheim. The Angels can only beat one good team in the AL, US! And for those who say no, just go back to 2000. They’re the only team with a winning record against us. It makes HFA all that much more important.
Betsy August 24th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
How good do you think Buccholz will be, GF? Is he really their only good young (though at 25 he’s getting up there) young pitching prospect? If that’s the case, I would agree with you……unless of course they think he’s not more than a #3. Then you probably have to trade him……
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What the Red Sox need to do is find quality pitchers. Don’t be concerned whether the guy is a legitimate #1, #2, or #3.
They already have their top two guys. It’s not imperative for Buchholz to turn out better than them. He just needs to be considerably better than Penny, Smoltz, and Tazawa – which he has been.
It is interesting… if CC is closing in on 20 wins down the stretch, do they rest him and skip him starts and keep his PC down just to keep him fresh or do they let him go all out to try and get 20?
Quality 3-4-5 guys are hard to find, Betsy. Not all prospects, be it Buchholz or IPK. need to be traded because they don’t reach “ace” level.
The Angels are in Yankee fans’ heads more than they are in the Yankee players’ heads.
This team isn’t going to fear anyone and they’ve proven they can beat anyone.
Markus its a sad situation for fans like that.
The complaining like you said, but also the unrealistic expectations for the players.
Best record in baseball, 32 games over .500, 7.5 game lead and they point out the “weaknesses” and explain the players they’d like replaced because they “can’t be trusted”.
People should be enjoying this season. I like this team more than any other Yankee team in the last 10 years.
I posted earlier that I felt confident saying they were a great team. Not good, great.
Its not about being a “homer” or looking at things through “pinstriped glasses”. Its about appreciating the recognizing how different the 2009 team is from recent past teams.
a trip down memory lane:
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odds are, if you had the baseball game you also had this classic:
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Re: Johan Santana and possibility of elbow surgery –
I thought of Pete’s joking comment months ago, when Santana first complained of elbow “discomfort” – after couple of years of declining velocity – about Hank having to write on the blackboard 100 times “I will listen to Brian Cashman”.
I guess CC takes the “You Know Who Big” award this year.
Better luck next year, Johan.
Man if Santana needs surgery & this has been an issue (as suspected) for a while – the Mets need to fire their entire medical staff
I think all these people calling for Jorge to sit have short term memory problems. They forget the only year the Yankees haven’t made the playoffs is when Jorge was on the dl a good portion of the year.
A pox on Jose Contreras. Chicago would be ahead by 6 runs if he just let Konerko pick up that ball.
If I were a Met fan I’d want to know why they let Johan keep running out there with elbow discomfort. Especially considering that Mets have been out of contention for quite some time. If he does in fact need surgery, they have already lost him for a good portion of next year.
Cash – the little jobber has some sand. Faced down ye olde Blowhard and then boxed the other two – Trost and co money men to get Teix. Set up a preempt CC campaign. Did one of his midseason sift for pitching in Gaudin. Maybe the Cash sniping will decrease at least for this year.
Anyone watching LLWS? Great watch for off-days. Also, was anyone else at the Teixeira batting demo for Letterman? I was there and it was a lot of fun to see him up close.
“Buchholz has really turned the corner this year and has become a cog in Boston’s rotation. He’d be their #3 starter if the playoffs started today.”
boy, i am sure happy that we dont have any cogs in our rotation…because apparently they have 5.02 era’s…thank goodness
i’m watching the LLWS, Ben – loving it
RalphieD (OPPC) August 24th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
“Buchholz has really turned the corner this year and has become a cog in Boston’s rotation. He’d be their #3 starter if the playoffs started today.”
boy, i am sure happy that we dont have any cogs in our rotation…because apparently they have 5.02 era’s…thank goodness
lmao
If Buchholz “turned the corner” (7 ER in 4 2/3) he must’ve wound up in the wrong neighborhood
Resting CC is a top priority down the stretch second to almost nothing else.
Clay Bucholz has allowed 158 hits in 142 innings and pitches to a 5.12 career ERA. Just think how fearful some the Soxphobiacs here would be in Bucholz were any good.
Both McAlister, (our one pitching starter prospect at AA) who just came back from a tired shoulder and Sanchez got smoked today. We are weak in pitching all of a sudden. A lot of relievers used to cobble together starts.
If we play up to caliber for the next 38 games, I figure we can end up going about 27-11, because it’s a rather soft schedule to begin with, and the Yankees are a VERY good team. That would put us at 105 wins, and considering how poorly we started the season, I think that’s phenomenal. This could very well be, knock on wood, the best second half a team has had in many, many years, if not ever.
If Buchholz “turned the corner” (7 ER in 4 2/3) he must’ve wound up in the wrong neighborhood
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Heh, heh. A hit, a palpable hit.
I like your optimism, Donnie… but 105 wins ain’t happening. Not when Gaudin, Mitre, and whoever else are starting meaningless games in September to rest Joba, CC and the boys. I still go with my preseason prediction of 99.
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Swisha’s online fan photoalbum
SIs just pouring it on now – relief pitching in and the scoring goes nuts….
Another important point that gives us a scheduling advantage the rest of the way over LAA is that they only have two more off days, whereas the Yanks have 4. The Yankees will be able to continually give guys rest and set their rotation without sacrificing games. Starting 9/10, the Yankees have every single Thursday off for the rest of the season.
we have a more productive offense,better pitching,better pen than the angels
Tom and GF, good points….I probably do underestimate the value of a good pitchers who aren’t aces or #2’s………I still like that Buchholz was knocked around tonight, lol.
I hope Kennedy can rebound next year. He could be a very useful piece for us……..
Until we hear for sure, it’s way too early to speculate on Santana needing surgery……..However, regardless, the fact that the Mets didn’t check this out sooner and let Santan pitch with an iffy elbow……just terrible. I mean, the guy hasn’t thrown between starts since the ASB. What does that tell you? The team has an incredible amount invested in this guy – how do they not take every precaution? I hope for Santana’s sake that he does not need to go under the knife.
The chick with short hair, next to Swish and his SUV is cute.
don’t count Ian Kennedy out. Even a dependable #4 or 5 starter would be a welcome addition.
L to the 2nd
August 24th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Man if Santana needs surgery & this has been an issue (as suspected) for a while – the Mets need to fire their entire medical staff
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I have been telling Mets fans that all season.
If the Yankees ever had a rash of injuries like the Mets have, they would have all been fired already.
Remember 2007 when it seemed like every Yankee was hitting the DL with a hammy problem? The conditioning coaches were gone by May.
She is cute, but she might be a little too into Nick Swisher. The other girl in the picture, seen through the passenger windown, looks cute too. Cute girls hanging around baseball players, who’d've thunk it.
SI wins and advances to US semis at LLWS!
I wanna get an autograph from Swish ~.~
Any idea if he’s making any public appearances?
in the playoffs it comes down to 1 or 2 pitchers getting hot & winning like hammels did for philly.
if we face the angels & cc beats lackey twice we win
if cc wins once & lackey once other pitchers come into play in a 7 game series it takes 2 hot pitchers
Erica, I remember all too well.
Obviously, there is a degree of bad luck involved that basically everyone except K Rod has been hurt.
But – you have to wonder how much of it is negligence by the staff – not seeing warning signs, misdiagnosing problems, perhaps not erring on the side of caution…
Just mind boggling
“SI wins and advances to US semis at LLWS!”
Good for them. They’re in the final four with some tough customers, but they’ve done great no matter what happens from here.
Papelbon! I missed him this weekend.
Yeah Nick, he was heard but not seen.
Wonder if he can hold a 4 spot, with Wagner waiting in the wings and all…..
The Sox have run through Ramirez, Oka, and Bard. Not including Papelbon, because as Nick alluded to, he hasn’t pitched in a while.
Lose the battle, White Sox, but win the war.
“But – you have to wonder how much of it is negligence by the staff – not seeing warning signs, misdiagnosing problems, perhaps not erring on the side of caution…
Just mind boggling”
Kinda how the Yankees handled Wang.
Would be funny if they got few runners on base, he’s all emo on the mound.
jerry manuel was on wfan saying that he learned a lot from the church concussion wich tells me they are getting bad advise or not seeking the right treatment
probably both
I don’t know, I think the White Sox turned any chance of winning the war into the Bay of Pigs.
m:
White Sox have been in their pen since the 3rd inning and are apparently serious about starting Freddy Garcia tomorrow. Hard to be optimistic about their chances.
Will the RS be sending a fruit basket to Contreras for his gift-wrapped 3rd inning?
Sheesh.
Atleast Papelbon has 22 pitches in 1 inning lol
A fruit basket? He would just drop it.
Contreas should be released,he’s awful.
Wagner? I don’t need no stinkin’ Wagner.
22 pitches & the big F-U by Papelbon.
Tune in tomorrow for more CWS suckage.
Freddy Garcia? Be very afraid.
A little help? Would it kill you, Ozzie?
They’re waiting on Peavy, L. Probably going to be too late though.
LOL Nick – maybe give it to Konerko for him
Is Peavy targeted for early September?
Caught MLB channel quickly & they showed his MiL rehab – he threw behind a guy & almost started a rumble.
Looks like midseason form to me.
Yeah, the White Sox should be feared, alright.
There isn’t a manager in MLB right now that has done less this season with good talent than Mr. Hardass himself Ozzie Guillen.
Ozzie’s schtick has a shelf life, and its clearly expired in CHI
Now if they can just do something about Hawk Harrelson
Put THIS on the board, jackass.
LOL I just heard Dan Shaughnessy and Bob Ryan discussing (on the Globe website) the weekend……DS thinks the Yankees got exposed by the thumping Red Sox, lol. The Sox are definitely red hot and can really hit, but they lost 2/3. Even though I think they are going to win the WC and be a hugely tough out in the playoffs, to say that they exposed the Yankees is just silly. The Yankees are the ones that exposed them…….Shaughnessy seemed very happy that the Sox were not overmatched by CC and battled him.
Roy Halladay lost again today 12-7 to Tampa.
Betsy: Shaughnessy apparently still drinking from the same Kool Aid trough as Gammons
Haiku: have to think Halladay is still hurting from the groin injury – can’t believe he’s mailing it in
Anytime you win a series in someones home turf,you’re over matched.
Sounds like Shaughnessy is suffering from overexposure.
Even if he had a brutal postseason this year, got booed and killed by the fans/media, and was miserable and couldn’t handle it, and requested a trade… nobody will take that contract. Just like nobody would take A-Rod’s contract (pre-steroids) unless the team picked up a huge portion of it.
Gone are the days that high salaried players with long contracts are traded.
Gammons likes the Yankees, though……even though he loves the Sox. I don’t care if Shaughnessy likes them, but boy, he sounded dumb.
Nick, I think I’m the one suffering from overexposure…………to Shaughnessey.
L TO THE 2ND~
20h games out,I don’t know.
The only bad part of the weekend was Burnett’s embarrassing performance.
CC was a stud… scoring some cheap runs of errors doesn’t make it impressive. And our offense scorched Penny and Beckett.
“The only bad part of the weekend was Burnett’s embarrassing performance.”
Pettitte was pretty piss poor too.
He was fine through the first 4 innings… if he didn’t have to sit that long, maybe things would have been different.
Pettitte was fine before he sat on the bench for forever. Who knows either way what his night would have looked like without that break.
Getting shut down by Buccholtz wasn’t so great.
Huh? How was Pettitte poor?
He gave up 1 run through 4 innings, then sat for 36 minutes. The pitching as a whole sucked after that inning.
Pettitte sat for 45 minutes.
That put him out of rhythm.
I completely trust Pettitte in high leverage.
The only thing more embarrassing than the result on Saturday were the fans complaining about this team and virtually putting the Red Sox back in the race.
But that didn’t last long considering what happened the next night.
Regardless of whether it’s injury related or something else, Halladay’s performance has only sealed JP’s fate for doing nothing at the trade deadline.
AJ gave up 7 runs by the 2nd inning. Andy was fine when it mattered. Some cheap runs after we had a 10 run lead doesn’t diminish that.
Someone please help me out with the Cervelli-cougar reference. Regretfully, I’m in the dark on this one
yeah, pettitte wasn’t great either but nowhere near as bad as AJ. bruney and the defense made his line worse than it was that 6th inning was a disaster
Ask any pitcher to sit for 36 minutes and see if he is sharp the next 1\2 inning. It ain’t easy.
Franco,
And you know what is even more embarrassing? There were actually some fans yesterday who said they couldn’t enjoy the win that night because they were still “worn down” by what happened on Saturday to AJ and the implications it had
But that’s Yankee fans for you.
It doesn’t matter how Pettitte pitched Friday. He gets a pass.
He’s been outstanding since the ASB and should have won a few games but the offense wasn’t scoring for him.
A cheap win doesn’t diminish how well he’s pitched for the last six weeks.
Attach,
The ladies on this site always commented on how attractive Cervelli was, especially his eyes. They used to fawn over him in his postgame comments. And since most of the women here are in their 30s and 40s, while Cervelli is in his early 20s… thats where the cougar reference comes from.
Tex on Letterman time
Gator August 24th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Franco,
And you know what is even more embarrassing? There were actually some fans yesterday who said they couldn’t enjoy the win that night because they were still “worn down” by what happened on Saturday to AJ and the implications it had
But that’s Yankee fans for you.
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CB said it best the other night.
The Yankees don’t have a glass jaw – too many of their fans do.
Pettitte deserved a cheap win after all the hard luck he pitched in since the ASB. He deserves many more wins than he has.
Remember Texeira is on Letterman now guys.
CBS ~~
Uh, don’t count me among the Cervelli Cougar Club.
“CB said it best the other night.
The Yankees don’t have a glass jaw – too many of their fans do.”
lol So True.
Letterman performs his unfunny jokes first before the guests come on…..
ESPN just had a note on their scroll that Johan Santana might need surgery on his elbow. How’s that non trade looking now for the Yankees? Either no Joba or Hughes and no Sabathia and likely other minor leaguers thrown in for Santana and his gimpy elbow. Whew! Nice job Cash.
Thanks, Kelvin.
Completely slipped my mind. Tuning in.
Anna Wintour, Mark Teixeira and Artie Lang on Letterman.
That’s an interesting Green Room.
Letterman still has a show?
The guy hasn’t been funny in what, about 20 years?
lol wow
What the hell are Artie Lang and Teix going to talk about?
He should have brought Swisher with him
Ask Joe Buck how great Artie Lang is….
More passive aggressiveness from pathetic posters……nothing new to see here, moving on
What you mean Betsy? ~.~
Fine, I have a glass jaw – who cares? Am I a boxer? No, so what does it matter.
Tex is going to tell the funny story of how he accidentally left his wife shopping on Newbury Street and Andy Pettitte’s wife had to pick her up.
Andy sat while the Yankees were scoring runs,in a marathon inning.He sat too long.YANKEES WON,he got the win.
Kelvin, I know exactly who Gatorade is referring to….passive aggressive baloney. Instead of calling me out (which would be pathetic anyway) by name, he says “some posters” as if I’m not here and I don’t know who he’s talking about.
I feel like I’m in grade school here with some of the sniping because I don’t look at things the way others do.
Wow, Letterman still taking shots at Palin. Yawn.
Must be a rare form of Tourettes.
When is Tex on? Let’s move along. Nothing funny here.
Well, I didn’t read Gatorades comments.
Sorry ^^
I heard Andy picked her up…and they got lost on the way home.
Betsy,
I know it’s very difficult, but you should just ignore the snark.
Wagner invokes NTC.
How the hell can someone be a Yankees fan and not enjoy yesterday’s win?
Beckett giving up 8 runs was a thing of beauty.
so Joe Morgan thinks CC is the front runner in the Cy Young
Kelvin, no problem.
M, I ignore Miggs – I get a kick out of his asinine comments. It’s harder to ignore the shots that come from everywhere. I don’t deserve them…….
Wagner invokes his no-trade clause. He isn’t going to the Red Sox.
Well, Sox dodging a bullet there.
1. Wagner’s old
2. Wagner’s coming off surgery
3. Wagner would be disgruntled
4. Pap’s would be disgruntled
Wait, is it to late to offer Wagner a bonus to waive that NTC?
So the Sox refused to drop Wagner’s option?
Tex time
I wonder if Papelbon’s running commentary helped push that along with the Sox not giving him the guarantee that they wouldn’t pick up the option.
Wow at Wagner…….He had a chance to go to a real contender and he’d rather stay with the Mets, lol. On the other hand, the Mets will be much better next year……still, I don’t get it.
Blessing in disguise for Boston. Would have caused more distractions that they needed.
Betsy,
No, you don’t deserve any of it. Hopefully, if you don’t respond to any of it, the trollish behavior will stop.
Doesn’t matter what they think of you, they’re being very unkind. And all it took was one comment, and then the others came crawling out out of the shadows.
But I guess us girls gotta take it, if we want to hang out in the locker room with the boys, huh?
Chin up. But stop worrying so much. You’ll save everyone a lot of grief.
No brainer for Wagner.
Why would you go to BOS if they were not willing to drop the option? Yeah, you get a chance to win this year, but after that, you have no assurance you will be a FA next year.
No surpeise there – RS totally botched it thru leaks.
Unless it was a ploy all along to block him from NYY claim
Wagner is 38 and 15 saves away from 400.
It would be kind of a bush league move to deprive him the chance to attain that 400 save mark, which Boston might have done.
surprise*
betsy Mets aren’t picking up his option.
He’s a goner after this year, esp w/ K Rod there
Lincecum is pinch-running for Bengie Molina in the 10th inning in Denver.
ESPN doesn’t mention anything about Wagner……anyone have a link? thanks!
M, notice how I didn’t stop posting? LOL it will take a lot more than one bozo and his cronies to chase me away. I’m stubborn, thank goodness, lol. I’m trying my best to ignore these things, but posts like Gatorades’ just push my button. We’re all just having discussions and out of the blue comes an insulting, snarky post. It’s almost becoming unpleasant for me to be here……
Of course Tex is going to be on at the end of Letterman. Grrrr.
Wagner was smart, why Go to Boston and set-up for a spoiled brat who runs his mouth wildly without thinking.
Papelbon isn’t a bright kid, He’s talented but not very bright. He also is soft when he blows games up. I’ve seen him crying before and complaining constantly.
Right now Wagner is comfortable, to be near his home. Rather just finish the season as a Met and then move on.
Wow Nick. Are they nuts?
Betsy – No offense, but you bring a lot of this snark upon yourself by saying things like the 2010 rotation will be weak and you couldn’t enjoy the win yesterday (or something to that effect), and things like that.
Do you expect people just to ignore those comments? You get a lot of flack unfairly for praising Boston (but anyone who dares says nice things about Boston gets flack by the usual suspects), but a lot of the other things you bring upon yourself.
Paplebon is such a jerk……why would you make comments like that about someone who could possibly help you? He doesn’t sound like the most welcoming dude….
Betsy,
So according to Gator’s post… you were the one who said you couldn’t enjoy the win yesterday because of AJ’s performance the previous night? Why would you say that? Of course that would trigger snark responses…
LOL Erick…….whatever.
Yup, your right Erick…
On another note, Wow can’t wait to see Tex on the show already this is lame haha.
Take off the sunglasses Anna.
Good
Letterman jumped the shark years ago.
Det is beating the Angels 4-0
It didn’t end well. Brian Wilson, the closer, bunted into a double play. At least the Freak didn’t hurt himself.
This is silly. There are very few people interested in both Anna Wintour and Mark Teixeira. The fact that CBS puts both of them on the same show is beyond me.
Call me when Tex is actually ON this pathetic show
Betsy,
Who are you talking about?
I made the glass jaw reference in regards to some Yankee fans in general but I didn’t say a word about you.
Um, I don’t deserve to be insulted……a bunch of internet bullies who wouldn’t say any of these things to people if they were face to face.
Not that you guys deserve an explanation, but AJ’s performance was NOT why I didn’t go ga ga over yesterday’s win. It was the hullaballo afterwards, with the controversy I knew was going to erupt, with the parsing of his comments to the point where people thought he was throwing his teammates under the bus…….Yeah, I was unhappy with all of that, so freaking sue me.
As to my opinion that the 2010 rotation isn’t going to be all that, well goody for you that you look at things in rose colored glasses. I’m entitled to an opinion – if you don’t like mine, you can ignore it. I don’t buy the garbage that I deserve to be insulted… Joba and Phil are mostly about potential. I expect them to be aces -really, what more do you want me to say? That they are going to be aces next year?
The Giants are a little desperate. They will either be 2 or 4 back of Colorado for the WC at the end of this game.
LMAO I’ll let you know L2nd~
Just having flashbacks of what happened to Wang.
Why would SF even risk something like that?
painful interview – will flip back later
Why are they making us wait for Tex?
GF, I wasn’t necessarily aiming my comment at you, but your post was in response to a post clearly aimed at me. I’m sorry, I know you never said anything about me……..
I think I’ll wear an asbestos suit before I start posting here…………This is supposed to be relaxing for me. I could get more rest at a firing range
Am I missing something? Who in this thread insulted you?
You are really overreacting…
thanks Kelvin
I’ll be flipping between DET – LAA & Tropic Thunder
Thing is, this is a blog.. You post things knowing that others will react to your post/comments.
You write alot of interesting stuff Betsy, but you tend to be negative ALOT of the time. Infact this week it’s been whines or negativity.
Try the OPPC, They are really nice posters that might help you.
oprah – Uma
This is just painful. I’ll check back later for Tex
Ben g, I think people confuse negativity with being realistic. Do I insult people who are being overy optimistic? If people don’t like my posts, they are free to ignore them. I don’t buy that it’s ok to be rude and insulting because I’m more negative than people would like.
I don’t need to join an optimists club…I don’t see anything wrong with my point of view.
Overly…..
Tex?
I hate watching these shows waiting for guests and they wait till the last portion of the show to show them… atleast say it at the opening lol
Aw, Betsy. You worry too much.
Who cares what trolls think.
I had no idea that Gator took a shot at you. My response was aimed at Yankee fans in general who essentially come here to complain about everything.
Just remember, I told you a couple of months back that this team was going to be fine.
We can worry about 2010 when 2009 is over. Who knows. Pettitte might be back or they may make a deal for someone else.
They don’t have to field the 1970 Baltimore Orioles rotation to get things done next year.
Yes Dave it’s true.
You still suck.
Uncle Ellsworth, if I win the Jeter contest, do I get a prize?
Guys Det is handing the Angels their butt on a platter7-0,and the inning J Weaver was pulled won;t end 10=0 Det,great game
Why all the bickering?
7.5 game lead and 32 games over. Enjoy this folks, it isin’t always going to be this easy. Rather than complain, enjoy having the best team in baseball.
Letterman enough with this Has-Been, bring on ’09’s MVP, TEX
Nick in SF
August 25th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Uncle Ellsworth, if I win the Jeter contest, do I get a prize?
you have a Jeter bobblehead?
letterman Blows, I’d rather listen to Fallon, but for the love of the Yankees, I must wait for teixeira
L2 texeira is next bro so check it out in 2 minutes
Look for me during the Batting Demo! I’m tall and wearing a Yankees Universe Shirt and cap.
GF, thanks. I’m trying hard not to get discouraged by some of these posts………
I always enjoy reading your posts – they make me feel better, lol. I admit that a part of my negativity stems from the fact that I believe that preparing myself for the worst will make the pain of losing a lot easier to bear, lol. Dramatic? Probably, but that’s my life in a nutshell.
I’m tired and need to get some sleep – have a good night, friends!
I can’t believe I sat through almost an hour of this guy. I didn’t realize he deteriorated this much.
Uncle: yes, it’s pretty lame. Doesn’t look like him. It was from early in the bobble trend days. Not one of my favorites.
according to MLBTR, billy wagner will excersise his no trade clause and remain with the mets
thanks kelvin
< 15 minutes left – about freaking time
Division is over. Yanks are in the playoffs. Congrats on the weekend.
Betsy. Please let it roll off your shoulders. The regulars respect and enjoy your posts. Anyone that reads your posts know that you are a person of substance.
-dennis
Late Night comedy is a lot like Sports Talk radio… a dying breed.
I hadn’t watched Leno in years. It has been even longer for Letterman.
I never liked Conan at all and I didn’t even know who Jimmy Fallon was until he made fun of A-Rod’s pics with the mirror.
I guess I’m not a late night talk show kind of viewer. Hasn’t been the same since Johnny Carson retired.
Why are Abreu and Ervin Santana laughing in the dugout? Their team is down 10-1!!!
This is ridiculous. So many commercials.
Don’t go to sleep betsy tex hasn’t come on yet haha.
Hope it is worth my wait.
Oh for the love of…
More commercials!
At least they’re funnier than Bitter Old Dave
I think Letterman is better than Leno
Ben,
I’m usually asleep by the time Leno comes on. And I was going to just catch the video that is sure to be posted here.
But I might try to stay up to catch a LoHudder.
Finally, Tex is here.
Who’s Johnny Carson? I quit when they let Jack Paar go.
(I kid, I kid)
Nick in SF
August 25th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Uncle: yes, it’s pretty lame. Doesn’t look like him. It was from early in the bobble trend days. Not one of my favorites.
IDK maybe I can find something. Don’t get your hopes up about a bobble though.
you really think you got the right pick, don’t you?
wooooo I was on TV!
tex is on tv.
Finally Tex!
Amen Guiseppe.
These guys can’t carry Carson’s jockstrap
So will Letterman make the interview about himself as usual?
uh 3 more games to go with Boston, dude
I dunno why I’m laughing… lmao
Oh man, Carson was the best. The rest of these late night guys are all jokes.
Uncle, I like my pick a lot, but I have no idea what the competition looks like. How many entries are there? If no one is close to mine and he does it a couple days earlier, I win, yay.
Bobbleheads can be a little pricy, a much smaller prize would be adequate.
new post
in no specific order…
AL cy young debate:
1. Halladay
2. Verlander
3. Grienke
4. Sabathia
5. Beckett
AL MVP debate:
1. Mauer
2. Tex
3. Jeter
4. Miguel Cabrera
obviously a long ways to go, but you can probably assume for CC to win it, he has to lower his ERA to about 3, other than that, Halladay looks like the guy…if Grienke racks up the wins, then he may take it.
Cabrera is having a great year, but his lack of RBI and defense (compared to Tex,) plus how no one seems to think about him may hurt his chances. But his numbers are ridiculous.
Mauer is clearly having the best year, especially after missing a month, but his team may not even be close in the standings…if his team can remain in the playoff race for the final week, that may be enough to give him the MVP nod, even if his team misses out of the postseason.
If you consider playoffs as a key part of the MVP discussion, then I think it comes down to Tex and Cabrera. With Jeter missing out on a MVP again.
discuss.
Yep, it’s all about you, Dave
well he was kinda funny. although i think arod would be funnier, cuz he would’ve been mad awkward.
“Why are Abreu and Ervin Santana laughing in the dugout? Their team is down 10-1!!!”
10-3 now, they are sitting on Verlander’s fastball.
10-4
Angels have 3 innings to score a min of 11 runs.Abreu at bat,and he gets on.T Hunter just dbled and brought in Abreu.
Wow Angels are putting a hurtin on Verlander,4 runs given up so far.
Verlander pulled in the 6th
Angels are fighting back what s game.
I hated when Torre shut down the Yankees every September to rest players. It’s a recipe for coming into the postseason flat. The Yankees are definitely on the schedule makers bad side what with two West coast trips this late in the season but a Yankee series win in Anaheim will go a long way this October.
//Boston will knock out LA, we will knock out Boston//
Like you said Beckett/Lester.
Boston’s not scared of CC and AJ. We took care of CC in 2007 and AJ is an after-thought with his last 2 outings at Fenway.
I’d be worried if I were you. Wagner to Boston seals the “Boston is built better for the play-offs” deal!!!!