Rangers take two of three
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 27, 2009 
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The Yankees have lost three of their last five and have dropped a series for only the second time in 12 chances since the All-Star break.
They were 2 for 12 with runners in scoring position and left 12 runners on base today.
It’s hardly time to panic. The Yankees lead the division by 5.5 games pending the result of the Red Sox game this evening.
Back in a bit with clubhouse reaction.
Go, White Sox (today only). Extra innings optional.
who cares, let them get a game up or stay close to the Red Sox!
Unlike Tuesday, Girardi did nothing wrong today. Not his fault that his entire pen aside from Hughes seems to have crumbled.
Isn’t there someone else that can play second base? Hairston? Pena? Somebody that actually cares…
CC is gonna get the Yankees on a streak starting tomorrow!
This is why losses are a bogus stat.
Coke deserved the loss today, not AJ, yet AJ will get it.
AJ did his job. He kept us close and allowed us a chance to win. Coke gave the Rangers the insurance runs that made a rally by us basically improbable.
“Isn’t there someone else that can play second base? Hairston? Pena? Somebody that actually cares…”
I’d try Hairston there for a while. Maybe send Cano to Scranton until the rosters expand
A one game streak until Mitre and Joba take the hill this weekend. Boston is getting arms back, and ours are falling apart. These next five weeks are going to be absolutely brutal.
“Yankees just didn’t match the Ranger’s intensity in this series. The Rangers came in desperate and the Yankees came in fat.”
Thought the same thing Ghost.
But they have won 3 out of their last 6 and remember when everyone posted “well the yankees play .500 from here on out and they win 96 games…”. Just can’t get too upset about this.
or was that all talk?
Tom
August 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
This is why losses are a bogus stat.
Coke deserved the loss today, not AJ, yet AJ will get it.
AJ did his job. He kept us close and allowed us a chance to win. Coke gave the Rangers the insurance runs that made a rally by us basically improbable.
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I agree Burnett could of easily got a win today. I thought he was fine. Offense didn’t really do anything. And then Coke put the game out of reach.
Sorry, but, this was a team loss. Burnett only made one mistake, but, it cost him. This loss was lack of bullpen and the disappearing offense against an effectively wild starter.
Bad loss today. AJ deserved a much better fate.
Hope the SWB Yanks do better tonight after losing 4-3 to second place Syracuse yesterday. Their lead is down to 2.5 games in the IL North and more than likely the wild card isn’t coming from that division.
A one game streak until Mitre and Joba take the hill this weekend. Boston is getting arms back, and ours are falling apart. These next five weeks are going to be absolutely brutal.
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?! They added a 42 year old with a bad back. Beckett just got lit up his last 2 starts. Lester gave up 3 runs in his last start(OH NO AJ!?!?). Tazawa is a human juggs machine.
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Not sure if this means anything or not…
The Yanks are 7-7 in the games following a Boston series.
2-1 – Detroit series
0-2 – Tampa series
2-1 – Mets series
2-1 – Toronto series
1-2 – Texas series
Just found it interesting… they’re definitely not a .500 ballclub.
Rangers offense got timely hits but they weren’t exactly raking today.
AJ was pretty good today but their pitchers were a little bit better than our pitchers today.
We need to pick up Brad Penny and release Mitre.
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The Yankees dropped a series at home! Where’s the closest bridge?!?!? There is no way they are making the play offs now!
Just kidding. So, Burnett went 6, had one bad inning, and left the game with a 3-2 deficit. He did his job. The offense didn’t do theirs. The relief pitching didn’t do theirs either, but the biggest problem today was the offense. Consider: Nippert put 11 men on base in less than 4 innings, yet the Yankees managed just 2 runs off him. That’s about 3 base runners per inning. Come on, you have to score more than two.
The Yankees just dropped their first series at home in…how long has it been? Since before the All-Star break, for sure. It was bound to happen eventually, and it came against a very good team. Some times I think that Texas’ line up is better suited to Yankee Stadium than the Yankee line up is.
By the way, how did Molina do today? 0-4 with a DP? He needs to start over Posada every day!
I chalk this one up to not wearing the Dr. Pepper shirt again. But what am I to do? I really can’t wear a t-shirt in my line of work. Well, I could but I have higher standards than that.
Wait, what am I saying? Where are my prioritites? Next time the Yankees have a day game I’m gonna have to break the ol’ dress code.
AnybodyButCano
August 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Isn’t there someone else that can play second base? Hairston? Pena? Somebody that actually cares…
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You’re a perfect example of why planned parenthood has failed.
Burnett would be lined up to pitch against Edwin Jackson
1 or 2 runs is all we might get off him (that’s all we got off him last time)
A 6 innings, 3 run performance may not be good enough in the playoffs. You can’t expect to score atleast 4 runs or count on their bullpen imploding.
It’s not that big of a deal despite all the nonsense spewed in the last hour.
September call-ups next week will help a lot, too.
They need some extra bodies.
m, I think you misunderstood the question. I asked if it would it be fair to draw any conclusions about AJ based on the first three innings or the fourth.
That’s a yes/no question and you answered yes so I asked what conclusions they were.
I did not ask for a review of those innings; obviously, perfect is great and not-so-perfect isn’t so great.
So your actual answer is no, we can’t draw any conclusions based on the first three innings or the fourth? If so, I agree, and that goes for who was catching all four of those innings too.
I’m saying exactly what I want to say. I framed my original question as a mental exercise and I tried to be fairly precise in how I asked my question.
I think you went astray with your “Wow, Nick…” reply suggestively asking if I was really such a dummy as to blame today’s offensive struggles on Molina. He only gets partial blame.
Matt
August 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Burnett would be lined up to pitch against Edwin Jackson
1 or 2 runs is all we might get off him (that’s all we got off him last time)
A 6 innings, 3 run performance may not be good enough in the playoffs. You can’t expect to score atleast 4 runs or count on their bullpen imploding.
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Stating the obvious, again, Matthilda? You can’t count on Jackson only allowing 2 runs, their bullpen not imploding or their hitters actually hitting, either. See? That works both ways.
“It is ridiculous to assume that is going to happen, or to WORRY that it is going to happen. I have watched this team all year and I am confident that they would not let that happen. If it DOES happen then wow, thats a big choke!”
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That’s correct, and it could happen. It’s unwise to predict one way or the other with certainty, because none of us know for sure.
I think the Yankees are good enough to hold off a Boston late season charge. But, if Burnett doesn’t get himself together, and the bullpen doesn’t come up with more than Hughes and Rivera, then all bets are off.
For me, the key players in this drama is Marte, Bruney, Gaudin, Burnett, and Jobber. Except for the Jobber, these guys have enough major league experience to withstand a late season charge, if they can get it together. That remains to be seen.
“You’re a perfect example of why planned parenthood has failed.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I love it.
The bullpen is a mess… not one reliable arm after Hughes, except perhaps Marte against lefties (if he continues to pitch like this)
Coke = HR machine. Cannot be trusted in a big spot.
They needs to be priority number one… fixing the pen and finding a couple of other reliable arms. Maybe Melancon is that guy. Maybe Aceves can rebound. They need to find someone though.
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bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
August 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
And I’d like to see him catch the majority of our games with the Angels and Rays because of his arm.
But we all know that isn’t going to happen.
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The blogger’s opinion is well supported and is a good read. It was better formed than my own comments on the subject.
It’s not going to happen because it doesn’t make any sense for the Yankees to compromise their own strength to try and cope with their opponent’s strength. Their pitching is good enough to survive Jorge Posada, and continues to enjoy an advantage, even with him behind the plate.
On the other side of the ball, having him in the lineup, really helps frustrate, confound the opponent’s pitching, yielding the Yankees an even greater edge, especially as he hits for power, gets on base, and is a switch hitter, frustrating matchups for the opponent.
It would only make sense for the Yankees to surrender a huge strength of theirs if they were inferior to their opponents; they would split the difference and hope to come out ahead. As it stands, the Yankees have a huge advantage with Posada, the catcher, in the middle of their lineup, rather than on the bench, or even as the DH.
You know who makes a lot of sense? Trevor Hoffman.
Don’t know if he cleared waivers, but he is a guy who I think would be great in the 7th.
Reasons for today’s loss:
1 Bats
2 Bullpen
3 Starter
4 Defense
Burnett is hardly the reason they lost today, give the guy a break. Actually, the give the entire team a break it’s the dog days theyre gonna lose a series here and there. Youre all ridiculous
Jackson’s ERA is over a 1 run lower than Burnett’s.
Jackson has also had his share of speed bumps lately. His ERA was hovering around 2.60 just a couple of weeks ago.
Maybe now the press will stop with all this nonsense about how the Yanks won the division and the RS have no chance. A win tonight puts the RS only 5 back. The Yanks are one losing streak from being neck and neck with the RS. That’s why they play the games.
“Though it’s hard to blame the offense today, since they scored 8 runs on Sunday, 9 on Tuesday (loss) and 9 yesterday.”
Absolutely. You can’t expect on offense to score near 10 runs every game. They did well for 3 straight, and would have won 3 straight if Girardi had been a little quicker with the hook on some of his pitchers in Tuesday’s game (IMO). Yeah, they lost 2 of 3 to the Rangers at home. But considering that it’s the first seriest they’ve lost at home in forever, it’s not that big of a deal.
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AJ has better stuff than CC and Andy. But in a must win game I would pitch either one of them instead of AJ. AJ walks too many or loses focus. This will keep him from being an ace.
Like someone said, this is what you get with AJ.
Stop blaming the umpires for the Yankees problems. Calls also go against the opposition.
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The “circle of trust” is down to Hughes and MO.
Jackson has a 4 ERA his last 8 games. With all his stats trending in the wrong direction.
If only Girardi hadn’t given away the first game of the series with that rediciolosu bunt…
I think we need to send a plane ticket to Daddy Cano. He seems to be the only one who can kick Robbie in the butt. Surely the Yankees can afford the airfare and a hotel.
Don’t understand why Melky can’t play an entire season. Guys 10-12 years older than him don’t run out of steam as fast. Can’t tell if it’s mental, physical or both.
Are the Yankees going to bring up another catcher soon? Who’s their emergency catcher if Molina goes down? I really hope if the Yankees are down 1 run in the 9th inning with the tying run on base, that they’re not forced to let Molina hit because he’s the only catcher on the team (with Posada still injured).
“You’re a perfect example of why planned parenthood has failed.”
You see us New York liberals would argue that he’s the perfect example of why it should be expanded.
Cano’s struggles are another reason why Torre never should have been screwed out of coming back…LARRY BOWA went with Torre. He was the only guy who could get Cano’s head out of his you know what.
“Absolutely. You can’t expect on offense to score near 10 runs every game.”
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Agreed, this is the time in the season when your pitching has got to give you a few 2-1 and 1-0 wins.
This is a powerful offense, no worries there, it’s the pitching that is starting to show signs of failure.
Pitching wins championships – starting and relieving.
We need Cervilli to jump start the Yanks again!
“Agreed, this is the time in the season when your pitching has got to give you a few 2-1 and 1-0 wins.
This is a powerful offense, no worries there, it’s the pitching that is starting to show signs of failure.
Pitching wins championships – starting and relieving.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
“Agreed, this is the time in the season when your pitching has got to give you a few 2-1 and 1-0 wins.
This is a powerful offense, no worries there, it’s the pitching that is starting to show signs of failure.
Pitching wins championships – starting and relieving.”
Well said! In the playoffs, you can’t count on scoring millions of runs. Pitchers have to win you games.
we’re a .500 team on Day Games following a Night Game.
And you can see why, Jeter, Damon, Zilla, ARod, Molina all hover around age 35. Asking the AARPies to bounce back quickly after a night game is coin-flip proposition.
“Don’t understand why Melky can’t play an entire season. Guys 10-12 years older than him don’t run out of steam as fast. Can’t tell if it’s mental, physical or both.”
Too much of “I lika dat woman?”
The pitching is starting to unravel… especially the bullpen. If the starter doesn’t go 7 and hand it off to Hughes, we’re in trouble.
Matt
get real
aj gives up 3 runs today
we score 2 runs off of jackson last time & now we will lose because of this ??
Unless TB leap frog Texas &/or Boston, we only have 7 games left with serious playoff teams (I don’t consider the ChiSox a serious contender). We really should be able to use that to our advantage.
Rconn, I think saying you can’t rely on AJ is being harsh, but different strokes for different folks. He gave up 3 runs in 6 (could have pitched more) and struck out 12. He did not lose the game for the Yankees, their offense did. He’s had a few bad starts, but overall, I don’t see how anyone can say he’s not pitched well for the team. Up until last outing, he had a 3.69 ERA. How is that not good?
Bod, this may be the only time we aren’t in perfect agreement. But I can live with that.
“The pitching is starting to unravel… especially the bullpen. If the starter doesn’t go 7 and hand it off to Hughes, we’re in trouble.”
Not sure that is really true, but…I guess I’d rather them go through struggles now than in September or October.
Let them work out the kinks now and hopefully they’ll be in good shape by play off time.
I believe the yankees 4th starter Joba outpitched and beat Edwin Jackson. So I dont get why people are too worried. Burnett was fine today. He pitched a good game against Oakland. The only real trouble he has been having is at Fenway outside of those games he has pitched very well this year.
I dont understand why people are ripping Cano. He is having a very good season.
“aj gives up 3 runs today
we score 2 runs off of jackson last time & now we will lose because of this ??”
What?
We’ll lose 3-2???
Rob B August 27th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
“Don’t understand why Melky can’t play an entire season. Guys 10-12 years older than him don’t run out of steam as fast. Can’t tell if it’s mental, physical or both.”
Too much of “I lika dat woman?”
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Ahh, kids today.
These guys need to take some lessons from Mickey Mantle & Billy Martin.
Geez, reading this thread, I wish I had a Xanax™ concession stand.
We lost to the Tigers with Kenny Rogers and Bonderman shutting us down 3 years ago.
Anything can happen in October… trying to project it is kind of meaningless.
I dont understand why people are ripping Cano. He is having a very good season.
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I’m not ripping him but you have to admit he has issues with RISP. It’s doubly frustrating because he is a good player & is having a good year.
GreenBeret7 August 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
You’re a perfect example of why planned parenthood has failed.
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Pete said not to get political. And that was not called for.
Brad Penny > Mitre
“Don’t understand why Melky can’t play an entire season. Guys 10-12 years older than him don’t run out of steam as fast. Can’t tell if it’s mental, physical or both.”
Melky and Gardner were good splitting time playing center. Melky is not an every day center fielder.
Jackson hasn’t exactly been lights out lately. His ERA used to be around 2.40. Last time I checked, it’s risen quite a bit.
get a clue people
nobody has been able to predict jack in the past & now we have people that can see into the future ???
thank god you werent around when the yankees were 14.5 back to the rs & came back on them
rs stink
Has Texas given up less runs than any team or did I misunderstand that the other night?
Pepitone, how did AJ not pitch well today?
Again, people expect him to be perfect. He’s allowed to give up runs; the Yankees have done nothing behind him for several starts now. I guess it would have been better for him to give up single runs in 3 separate innings….The standards people have for him are ridiculous – he pitched well today.
Fix. The. Pen.
Girardi shouldn’t need to use Hughes for 2 innings when we’re trailing because nobody else is capable of pitching a clean inning to keep it close.
Leaving work now.
Betsy! See you soon
If we can go another 2 months without losing a series at home we might just win the WS.
OH NO!
WE’RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!
Damon
AJ had them baffled all day. Kinsler just guessed right.
Damon just said AJ should have been out of that inning with a pitch to Hamilton that wasn’t called a strike.
He looks like Woodstock with his spiked hair!
Betsy,
You don’t have to defend Burnett to the death like you’re his mother.
He was fine today outside of one pitch. It happens. He brought his nasty with him and he had a bad inning.
Too many Yankee fans here have a glass jaw as CB has said.
Good thing the team doesn’t.
Obviously anything MPB Johnny Damon says is correct
What’s frustrating about Cano is the fact that he doesn’t hustle. He is a bad player, not because he isn’t talented – he is, but because he wants to be a bad player. He’s been here roughly 5 years and you would think by now he would run out a groundout. He has had virtually no competition since Tony Womack was here yet he has had long stretches of not only lack of effort but also where he wasn’t producing and he’s been benched ONCE for it. Any other position, or team (besides the Mets) and they would have dealt with this issue. A Little Leaguer showing lack of effort would only be seeing the minimum 2 innings/game. He’s truly unteachable and/or he’s been allowed to get away with his lackadaisical play for too long.
Hate to expose myself as a ledge climber / bridge jumper / whatever in only my second foray onto these boards, but this season has really shown how far my confidence as a fan has fallen. With a 5 or 6 game lead near the start of September (depending on the games tonight), you’d think I’d would feel some modicum of ease, but I just can’t shake this feeling of dread…
Man, 2004 must have really done a number on me… Que sera, sera.
To me AJ pitched well enough to win today, The offense died but one cannot blame each other. It happens.
GF, lol……that’s not how I mean to come out, but the posts here about AJ being bad, having melted down and now being someone we can’t count on are inaccurate. I would be saying this if the posts were about CC, Andy or whatever.
unless the rs win we are 6 games ahead in the loss
The Yanks scored 18 runs in the first two games of the series against the team who had allowed the fewest runs in the AL.
Today was a clunker. No big deal.
Sabathia will go get ‘em tomorrow and throw a good game.
Buerhle will probably struggle because he usually struggles against the Yanks and he hasn’t pitched well at all since his perfect game.
AJ just is unlucky with the timing of his starts
Today – Day game after night game. We have a .500 record in such affairs… not easy for an older team to make the quick turnaround.
Last start – Day game after night game. After we scored 20 runs, Sox were angry.
Start before – A long flight from Seattle to Oakland, offense probablt underestimated Tomko
start before – Wild pitches. Another day game after night game where the team did nothing against Romero (and Romero proceeded to get lit up by Boston his next start).
start before – Lined up with Beckett and we couldn’t do anything.
start before – Day game after night game in Chicago.
He has not gotten the favorable pitching schedules that our other starters have gotten.
The bridge to Mo was Aceves & Hughes. But Ace hasn’t been the same since July, and Coke & Robertson can get hammered sometimes. I wish we had a fourth starter, so that Joba can wind his season down in the pen, and Gaudin can fill the 5th hole for September. If the Pen was Joba, Phil & Mo, we’re in great shape.
You people know that we are in 1st place still right?
Seems like a lot of folks are fighting to be first to jump off the bridge
betsy
August 27th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Pepitone, how did AJ not pitch well today?
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He pitched well enough to win, but giving up that homer to Kinsler was a mistake he cannot make down the stretch, and certainly not during the playoffs.
It may sound harsh, but mistakes in big games will absolutely kill you in baseball. More than any other sport, mistakes in baseball (even little tiny ones) are potential game turners – especially in the playoffs. That little mistake by Dennis Eckersley to Kirk Gibson in the 88 World Series is a perfect example. If he gets him out, like he should have seeing that the guy was walking on one leg, then the A’s (IMO) go on to win that series.
This was one of those 2-1 games the Yankees needed from AJ, and he didn’t deliver. He was close, but this isn’t horseshoes.
I’ve already forgotten about this game.
the Yankees were how many games back at the ASB and had just been swept in Anaheim, right?
They lost 3 in a row in Chicago after the ASB, right?
With all that, less 6 weeks later, they are 5 games in 1st with the best record in baseball.
This blog is impossible to read when the Yankees lose a game. The Angels just lost 3 in a row, does that make them a crappy team that is self destructing?
If you want perfection by every player in every game, you have the wrong sport. If you want to be a baseball fan, learn something about how the game ebbs and flows during a very, very long season.
AnybodyButCano
August 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
GreenBeret7 August 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
You’re a perfect example of why planned parenthood has failed.
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Pete said not to get political. And that was not called for.
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Did your mommy just get home and explain that to you? There’s nothing political about it.
Pepitone,
Exactly right. AJ pitched pretty well, but not good enough. He cannot make a mistake like he did to Kinsler in the playoffs. That can kill a team in a playoff series.
The turning point of the 06 ALDS was Mussina getting a 3-1 lead, and turning it into a 4-3 deficit 2 innings later.
The bar has to be raised from merely “giving us a chance to win” to actually winning us a game. That’s what wins in October.
No need to panic, but the Yankees have alot to prove.
Tell ya what makes me want to cut my wrists not watchin the team but reading this after 1 loss
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Bod, this may be the only time we aren’t in perfect agreement. But I can live with that.
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Trisha,
Me too. My love for you is unconditiional, but you already know that ;D.
I know the Yankees would never throw games intentionally, but it almost makes sense that they lost enough games to not get swept by the Rangers. Now the Rangers are well within the Red Sox in the wild card (1.5 games) and the Yankees are still up 6 on Boston. It is almost smart to not go “all out” during this series to give Texas a chance in the wild card to ensure Boston is out of the playoffs.