Game 128: White Sox at Yankees, Part II
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 28, 2009 
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We go to extra innings tied 2-2. So let’s start a new post.
UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: Girardi always goes by the book — always — so he used Mariano in the ninth inning. But after seeing Hughes fan the side on 14 pitches, why not leave Phil in for the ninth then you have Mo for the 10th? Hughes has been so rarely used, after all.
Now they’re left with Brian Bruney and assorted others for extra innings.
UPDATE, 10:11 p.m.: Tex, A-Rod and Matsui to face Randy Williams. It ends here.
UPDATE, 10:15 p.m.: Thought that was it. Lots of warning track action tonight.
UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: Cano is certainly due with RISP, right?
Brian Bruney….
Enough said.
I saw some of the game at the restaurant I went to with my family……….disappointing 7th inning for the CC as he’d pitched so well. Alex saved a run with a play at 3rd and Swish made a great throw to get that runner out…….The offense was bad again tonight……..Phil was NASTY tonight.
Yes Peter, lets.
Let’s all remain hopeful. We haven’t lost this game, and home field advantage is always comforting in extra innings.
la
This extra inning game is brought to you by Joe Girardi and his incompetent 7th inning game management.
If we had cashed in on all of those runners we had, we would have won this game 6-2.
No No No. You do push it! Hes had ample rest and these are becoming MUST WIN GAMES.
Wow Jays pen stepping up and getting the job done. May they continue. Tie score going into the 8th.
0-2 and then 3 balls no where near the plate.
Bruney is going to blow this…
Just amazingly incompetent use of personnel and talent this game.
The game gets down to Bruney for no reason.
Brian Bruney is going to pitch higher leverage innings in this game than Phil Hughes.
Just remarkable.
Not really, the yankees won’t choke a 6 game lead.If they did, it’d be worse than 2004
Girardi not using Hughes in the 7th with 2 outs is why this game is going to extras right now. Look at the White Sox, they used their “8th inning guy” in the 7th because the Yankees had Damon, Teixeira, and A-Rod coming up in a tie game.
These managers are so worried about not breaking the “book” that they are willing to risk losing the game. Isn’t your goal as a manager to WIN, regardless of whether it’s his “inning” or not?
A.J. has no hope vs that fastball and Molina called for 3 sliders? Hey guys I thought Molina was a pitch-calling genius?
“If we had cashed in on all of those runners we had, we would have won this game 6-2.”
And if ifs and whats were candys and butts then Homer would be in Candy land.
Sorry, Im just frustrated in the mis freakin management of tonights pithing portion of the game.
Either they’re holding Aceves back until Mitre or Gaudin gets a start, or something is up with his shoulder. These are his innings.
“Brian Bruney is going to pitch higher leverage innings in this game than Phil Hughes.”
CB, the problem is that no one calls Girardi on it. If one of the beat writers would just point out to Girardi how stupid these moves are, maybe he’d stop doing them.
Swisher runs around right field like a chunky gazelle. Whenever he catches the ball he has no feet on the ground.
THis is what he looks like: http://images.inmagine.com/img.....124487.jpg
“Not really, the yankees won’t choke a 6 game lead.If they did, it’d be worse than 2004″
IMO, nothing will be worse then 2004 unless they went up 3-0 in the World Series and lost.
I didnt leave my bed for 3 days after that loss.
the big problem in this game more than anything was the high number of runners left on base in first 3/4 innings…
“Sorry, I’m just frustrated in the mis freakin management of tonight’s pitching portion of the game.”
No problem, Dr. Cox. I won’t put a hex on you and your family.
You never know which Bruney your going to get. The guy gets ahead on hitters then nibbles and throws bad pitches.
“I didn’t leave my bed for 3 days after that loss.”
I don’t think I laughed or smiled for a month after that.
Laura,
That’s not the beat reporter’s responsibility in any way.
That’s what the manager is hired to do.
It’s his job to think about the game.
This is where Bruney thinks he comfy. He;ll let up a single or a walk and then all hell will break loose.
Girardi, Im coming for ya.
So far so good for Bruney. I really hate extras. I hope the Yanks put this one away this inning.
“You never know which Bruney your going to get. The guy gets ahead on hitters then nibbles and throws bad pitches.”
I think he’s trying to keep him appearances interesting. He doesn’t want us to get bored.
bruney has great stuff…he is just frustrating though..
Rain really coming down at fenway.
him=his
End the sentence:
If Girardi ever cost us a game in the postseason for “going by the book”…
Beckham seems like a good kid…He just needs a new last name.
Okay, someone jack one out so that we can all go to bed.
“bruney has great stuff…he is just frustrating though..”
Yes and yes
There are two more games this weekend. I would imagine the point of using the pitchers one inning at a time is with that in mind and having them available for those games.
“I didn’t leave my bed for 3 days after that loss.”
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That would have been my route too but unfortunately I had to wake up and take an accounting midterm in a room full of Bostonians
Nice job Bruney!
Great play by Molina. Pen looks good tonight. A chance for another walk-off?
Anyone know how many walk-off wins we have so far this year?
girardi does scare me in the postseason
Molina is the defensive player of the game.
“If Girardi ever cost us a game in the postseason for “going by the book”…
he won’t be managing the Yankees in 2010.
Getting Bruney straightened out could be very key for this pen, but at the same time you have to win the ballgames.
Bruney got the job done, but what if you got the nibbler who walked 2 guys and gave up a base hit on a pitch down the middle?
Girardi hasn’t been trying to win these last 2 games it seems by the moves he’s making, except if you win these games now, then you have a big enough lead where you CAN afford to rest guys and give guys innings to straighten them out. With a 6 game lead, it’s not as easy to do it, but if you get it up to 8 or 9, you can.
Because Girardi is unfortunately an idiot. He is terrible at figuring out the basics of managing the bullpen, a similar thing to Torre. He acted a lot like Torre today, not taking CC out in time, because he was napping, then he puts in Hughes for a single inning, he dominates, and he takes him out? What is with that? Has he not seen Rivera’s ERA in a tie game? It’s awful. There’s no reason to use Rivera when the game is tied. Yes, he was great today, but now we have scrubs in there for extras. Stupid management.
CB, I disagree with you. The 8th was pretty important. The White Sox had just tied the score, and momentum was shifting. If Joe had put in Bruney there and Bruney had imploded again, the hounds of heck would have come down on Joe for taking Phil out of his “8th inning role.”
The 10th is only a highwire act because the Yanks got out of the 8th intact.
I’m sorry, but there is NO reason why Phil wasn’t in for the 9th inning…..I just don’t get Joe. The kid just dominated, dominated the Sox and he can’t let him go another inning? He’s fresh – he’s hardly pitched. What a waste……and now Mo is gone and the game is in the hands of the lesser lights of the pen. Geez…..
Well the use of Brian Bruney there didn’t kill them.
I’m not sure if thats more statistical blind luck than anything, though.
Many managers in baseball need to take a step back and get a fresh perspective on the game. Do the things you do actually make sense or are you doing them because it’s “traditional managing”.
I think one of the great things in baseball is the tradition but it’s also one of the biggest weaknesses. Some executives, most managers and most scouts refuse to innovate because what’s been done in the past “works”. I’m not even talking about sabr stuff, just do what makes logical sense!
Joe from LI I agree with you.
Laura, I don’t think you’d see Girardi managing the same way in the post.
JMO
Tarp down in fenway
“Girardi hasn’t been trying to win these last 2 games it seems by the moves he’s making….”
Matt, this statement is ridiculous. Girardi is trying to win each and every single game. We may disagree about how he goes about trying to accomplish that feat, but to say that he’s not trying to win is ludicrous. If you spend any time watching the guy, you can tell that he wants to win and badly.
OH MY GOD….how do you not score on that play up at fenway!!!
molina, joy to watch catch…terrific play
I wonder if competent managers like Joe Madden laugh at Girardi?
Let me see if I understand all this outrage. Joe let CC finish the 7th inning. Joe took out Hughes after only 1 inning. Joe took out Mo after only 1 inning.
The way I see it Joe showed confidence in his ace. he saved his set-up man and his closer for tommorow and we still have an excellent chance to win this game. We have a 6 game lead. THIS IS NOT THE PLAYOFFS. lighten up people.
Unfortunately great block of the plate by Varitek to preserve the tie in Fenway.
I read elsewhere that Michael Kay was saying how it appears that Cash has set strict innings guidelines for Phil this year………that makes no sense. I don’t mean blow him out – by no means overuse him. However, let the kid pitch…..he’s hardly going to have any innings under his belt this year as it is.
OH SCREW YOU KAY
AAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW .
I think Hughes could have gone for two innings also. But I can’t get into the mind of the manager so I always wait to hear what he has to say. Everyone was all over him for a bullpen move last week but then when he explained why he did it everyone said they didn’t realize and they were wrong. (Can’t remember the exact move.)
That was so obviously not out of the park right off the bat. Michael Kay and the camera man are retards
I officially HATE Michael Kay and YES Network camera views with a passion. UGH.
great job Kay.
I dont even really care for it when fans use “we” when talking about the Yankees, although I do *get* it. But for an announcer to constantly be referring to the team as “we” during a broadcast, its just unreal.
Damn! Stupid tropical storm winds hurting them tonight.
So when we need the bandbox, we don’t get it.
Joe is clearly clueless…after all, he’s managed the team to the best record in baseball. Pete’s board has suffered in quality as it has grown in popularity.
Kay calm the hell down.
Any other night, and this game is over.
“The 8th was pretty important. The White Sox had just tied the score, and momentum was shifting. If Joe had put in Bruney there and Bruney had imploded again, the hounds of heck would have come down on Joe for taking Phil out of his “8th inning role.””
Joe,
That’s not what I was trying to get at. In no way did I think Bruney should have pitched the 8th.
My point is that Hughes sat in the pen at the biggest moment of the game when CC was tiring. Just sat there.
He pitches the 8th – and throws 14 pitches. There have been other innings where he’s been left out there to throw 30-40 pitches.
Then he gets pulled.
If Hughes can stay out there and throw 40 pitches in one inning why can he not throw a second inning after a stress free 14 pitches?
And pulling him ultimately forces the yankees to have to use Bruney in the 10th rather than Mo,
Phil, Pete isn’t much quality, So it was bound to all come together
If we had someone else than this bum Girardi, we would have the best record in baseball…………..wait a second……
Sterling with his signature “IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS . . . caught.”
Followed closely by Ol’ Goodness Gracious making excuses for him.
“Okay, someone jack one out so that we can all go to bed.”
Dude, its Friday. Im going out hard as hell after this.
Kay needs to be fired, really. Either that or he needs glasses, that didn’t even make the warning track.
I HATE this White Sox announcer I’m forced to listen to, “Hawk” as they call him. He is the biggest hick in the world. Is the message here that everyone in Chicago is a backwater hick? Because if so, he’s succeeding. So the other team is “the bad guys” and whenever someone strikes out, “he gone”? When this guy dies I’m going to his funeral and yelling, “HE GONE!” I seriously hate this clown.
When was the last time you actually heard of the Stadium holding balls IN?
that ball is gone on a regular night, the wind is killing the HR ball tonight.
Thanks to Pete your writing on this blog has brought a lot of good times following the Yankees thank you
it really doesn’t matter who pitches if we can’t score a freakin’ run to save our lives…
The most important point in the game where they could have used Hughes, was the 7th with two outs. They still would have had him for the 8th if they’d used him then.
who mentioned earlier about Kay’s yelling whenever there is a fly ball..he has done it about 5 times tonight he could be worse than sterling…
everyone thought it was gonna go out.
“The way I see it Joe showed confidence in his ace. he saved his set-up man and his closer for tommorow and we still have an excellent chance to win this game. We have a 6 game lead. THIS IS NOT THE PLAYOFFS. lighten up people.”
Tarheel excellent. I always do believe Joe has a better plan than people here may be able to figure out. There are times he’ll make mistakes, sure. But I don’t think this was one of them regardless of the game’s outcome.
Totally screwed by the wind today.
“Okay, someone jack one out so that we can all go to bed.”
Dude, its Friday. Im going out hard as hell after this.
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lol, yeah I’m going somewhere after the game is finished.
Umm how does Michael Kay not understand what Hairston is doing? He is clearly the emergency catcher in case Molina gets hurt, with Posada unavailable.
I hate you wind!
The Ghost
August 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Kay needs to be fired, really. Either that or he needs glasses, that didn’t even make the warning track.
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Trust me, you wouldn’t be saying that if you’d be stuck with Hawk Harrelson all night.
I’d kill for Michael Kay coverage right about now.
that arod ball was hit as well as you could hit a ball…gone any other day..
““Okay, someone jack one out so that we can all go to bed.”
Dude, its Friday. Im going out hard as hell after this.”
More power to you. I’m old so I’m going to sleep.
Tunnel Man says:
August 28, 2009 at 9:59 pm
This extra inning game is brought to you by Joe Girardi and his incompetent 7th inning game managment.
Yea he is laughing down there in third place. Some of you whiners are pathetic.
Boy, I can’t wait until the rosters expand and the Yanks can bring Pena, Cervelli and a couple of arms up to help the team out. The bench is Hairston, Hinske and that’s it.
Do not turn him loose on 3-0.
“If we had someone else than this bum Girardi, we would have the best record in baseball…………..wait a second……”
Nuff said.
When this guy dies I’m going to his funeral and yelling, “HE GONE!
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Ok, I know I shouldn’t have but I laughed really hard at that line
Cb – then i did misunderstand your point. As far as Phil pitching both, I did think of that also. The only thing I can assume is that Joe wants to use Phil available for tomorrow, also.
Hawk Harrelson is driving me to drink.
arod’s fly ball did have that homerun sound.
Cano, you stink.
Now prove me wrong please.
On any other night that ball is gone. Too bad. Lets see if they can end it here.
“Joe is clearly clueless…after all, he’s managed the team to the best record in baseball. Pete’s board has suffered in quality as it has grown in popularity.”
Oh please. Just because he has led the team to the best record means that he is without flaw? He can just walk on water and resurrect himself??
He has flaws. And this game is a perfect example of that.
Is he a good manager, of course. But he defiantly needs work.
Jerry there are 2 outs, no need to freeze on a LD here.
It’s not really about the wind though with Kay, he’s making pretty much any deep fly ball call as if it was a no-doubt home run. He really needs to learn to create a crescendo with his voice so he can raise it with his confidence.
This lineup is so weak with Molina in it….
“I hate you wind! ”
CB August 28th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
“Laura,
That’s not the beat reporter’s responsibility in any way.
That’s what the manager is hired to do.
It’s his job to think about the game.”
I agree completely, but do you think that management never challenges their manager on these type of decisions? Obviously that shouldn’t be necessary, but when a manager constantly makes these type of decisions, I personally would try to pressure him to manage differently. Do these people also view the game like the manager? Or do they think it’s just not their place to do so?
Trust me, you wouldn’t be saying that if you’d be stuck with Hawk Harrelson all night.
I’d kill for Michael Kay coverage right about now.
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Yeah, no kidding! I would KILL for anyone, even someone who barely understands the game of baseball, or doesn’t know a baseball from a hole in the ground. This guy is the worst in all of baseball. Sometimes, I listen to other teams’ announcers and they’re really cool guys, I appreciate listening to them. But this guy is a pure HICK, an absolute piece of trash idiot. I cannot stand playing the White Sox for this reason.
LOB-inson Cano is up
Wow the Chicago guys are gushing all over Robby!
due for a hit with runners in scoring pos…
I think a lot of people need to remember the Girardi has about as much managing experience as Joba has ML experience. He’s still on his learning curve, it’s just that the mistakes are going to be magnified due to them happening during a pennant race.
“The way I see it Joe showed confidence in his ace. he saved his set-up man and his closer for tommorow and we still have an excellent chance to win this game. We have a 6 game lead. THIS IS NOT THE PLAYOFFS. lighten up people.”
Too many people are being lulled into a false sense of security just because we have a 6 game lead. The lead is 6 games, not 10. We can’t take anything for granted. Yes, Joe has managed the team into 1st place, but that doesn’t mean that he is immune from making managerial decisions. IMO, not using Hughes for 2 innings was a mistake. Just my opinion, which only means something to me. LOL!
trumpet, guessing you were being sarcastic? i’m hoping you were
Thats was pretty close though, Ghost. If there wasn’t a wind coming in, that out by Alex would have been gone.
I know Kay is prone to Fake Home Run Calls FHRC’s (hey RobB, remember when we used to count Sterlings? LOL) but that was at least a little understandable.
Come on Cano.
I have to go out, let’s end this.
LOBinson Cano needs a new bat
“Wow the Chicago guys are gushing all over Robby!”
Trisha,
EVERY opposing broadcaster gushes over him. The rest of the league loves him. I feel we take him for granted because we see him everyday, which is completely normal.
Didn’t some people criticize Joe for managing every game earlier like it was the 7th game of the WS?
Please let this be the inning. I yearn for mindless television.
YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!
This is not the playoffs. If it was Joe would have managed diffrently
CANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doncha know!
RISP master.
LOBinson is now ROBinson
Vindicated! Hell yes robbie!
Girardi lost this game… no one else. Not CC, not the offense.
Woooo!
pie time..
Wait a damn minute…CANO!?
Phew!
Robbie saved the night!!!
It’s about time, Robbie!
Melky got the helmet again!!!
Swinging in the Rain!
Robby “the goat” makes up for his outs with RISP and gets PAH!!!
thank you cano
Pete called it!
AJ get the pies!
he was due
Thank you God in heaven.
Now the Greek chorus can stop the whining.
Obviously is all worked out.
Clutchy Cano!
PUT IT ON THE BOARD….YES
Now that’s what you call hitting with RISP
And that’s for the idiot that thinks Cano for a bag of balls is a reasonable trade.
Oh
My
God
“You can PUTITONTHEBOAAAAARD….YEEEES!”
LOL yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss Robbie!
I’m going to miss the pie!
Who says Robbie can’t hit with RISP? WTG Robbie!!!
Why is Phil Coke hugging Cano?
Coke lost us the game yesterday, he should not be in a good mood….
Which is why I said it was better to remain hopeful than to spend the last innings complaining.
Some day…
This has been an exciting year. Incredible.
Cano!
Did that really go out? I’m listening to Sterling so I’m still not completely sure.
Robby has such a sweet swing.
Bruney gets the win. How about that?
Cano certainly does save his hits with RISP for some pretty big situations.
CANO VINDICATED!!!!!!!!!!!!
I won’t get to see the PAH-ing!
GRRRR!
CANO!!!!
He gone!
Don’t you know CANO!!
closing the gap with Melky, what is it 3-2 now?
just like yesterday 2 outs nobody on..two walks….3 run homer for a second basemen
SWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
You know they were showing the game on the bigscreen during the rain delay at Fenway.
Phil, I don’t get that. We can’t criticize Girardi? Wow……
Good thing girardi isn’t some
of you idiots. Now mo and Hughes can go tmw and girardi got to see bruney is a tiny bit more reliable!
2 out nobody on, walk, walk, 3 run HR. Hey we were due.
Peter Abraham, I think you owe Mr. Cano an apology.
To bad we didn’t trade Cano for a bag of balls–then we wouldn’t have to quit playing after that ball was hit out!
My 9 had better show AJ pieing Robbie, lol
“Coke lost us the game yesterday, he should not be in a good mood….”
Leave the board…now. Pack your crap and leave. Dont come back.
He’s so lazy, he didn’t even run hard around the bases
Those lazy Dominicans…never come through when it matters…
It’s too bad we dont have a post-game tonight. Would like to have heard Girardi and Sabathia’s comments.
Why is Phil Coke hugging Cano?
Coke lost us the game yesterday, he should not be in a good mood….
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Surely you’re not serious.
Final score 5-2 Good guys!
put that in your pipe and smoke it, pete.
“Didn’t some people criticize Joe for managing every game earlier like it was the 7th game of the WS?”
“Didn’t some people criticize Joe for managing every game earlier like it was the 7th game of the WS?”
Walter August 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Girardi lost this game… no one else. Not CC, not the offense.
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The Yankees lost? What? Did I miss something?
Complaining about a loss in a tie ball game at home. Sheesh.
Girardi is a genius
He wins another game inspite of so much whining
He is really making arm-chair pundits look good
Dude I gotta admit, I hate when guys like Ortiz and Manny stare at their HR balls but I love it when Cano does it
Blast a HR, drop the bat, spit, take a few steps, point at the dugout and start jogging. Thats gangsta
pete on wfan tonight ???
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOAAAARRRRDD YES!
why don’t you just manage the team, pete? or do they let men that fat wear baseball uniforms?
Way to go Girardi…you know your team a little better than the MLB Scholars of LoHud. You owe him all an apology…and as for your treatment of Robbie — pathetic.
Grow up, fans – it’s a long season and you don’t use all of your bullets in August.
“Coke lost us the game yesterday, he should not be in a good mood….”
Leave the board…now. Pack your crap and leave. Dont come back.
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LOL
AJ made sure his aim was on tonight with the pie. He covered him.
That was AJ’s masterpiece, nice slo-mo my nine.
CC isn’t going to get the win tonight but he was as instrumental as any player in winning this game.
The offense struggled for most of the game.
And until CC tired he gave up nothing. As it was 7 innings and 2 ER with 10K and 1 BB is dominant pitching.
And that’s what wins games even if the stats don’t say so.
Would have been nice for CC to get the win as he would have strengthened his case for CY Young.
But as it is, another great win. More painful than it should have been but the 10th showed off some of the teams great strengths – they draw walks and hit for power.
And that makes them very dangerous late in games.
Betsy – folks complain just to complain. Earlier he criticized saying he was abusing arms by having the bullpen guys pitch too many innings by being left in. Now he is criticized for only having a young stud pitch one inning in terrible conditions. But rather than give Girardi the benefit of the doubt (even moreso with the win), the current nitpicking and bashing is just stupid and a waste of blog space.
Don’t look now, but…Bruney is 4-0.
He really struggle after coming back from injury, but his last few outings haven’t been that bad…except for the one sandwiched in the middle…was that an AJ start or a Joba start? I don’t remember. If he can get going again, that certainly would be a huge boost for October.
(Doing my Peter Abraham impersonation whenever he shows mad manlove for Gordon Beckham)…
“That Robinson Cano is an impressive player.”
Geesh there are still some of us who don’t whine about the managing and who absolutely appreciate Robby.
“why don’t you just manage the team, pete? or do they let men that fat wear baseball uniforms?”
Ever hear of a guy named John Kruk?
Kazmir is going to the Angels. Does that mean that they are going to let Lackey go at the end of the season.
One thing I’ve noticed all season long is that even the worst of the Yankee bullpen arms have stepped it up in tie games in extra innings.
Has anyone else noticed that?
Even guys like Bruney, Gaudin, and Jose Veras have had some of their best performances of the entire season in those spots.
Perhaps they are benefiting from everyone swinging for the fences instead of just trying to get on base.
I don’t recall any Yankee pitcher faltering at home this season in extra innings.
Ugh, I missed the pie……when did AJ do that? I can’t believe I missed it……..ugh.
Phil, I understand your point, but some criticism is fair and tonight I think it was fair.
So what did Hawk’s call sound like when Cano hit it?
LMAO
The win really shut up the whiners about Girardi.
He has the last laugh isn’t it?
Now both Hughes and Mo are available tomorrow.
Bruney gained some cofidence back.
Good pitching and good defense tonight. The only reason they still had a chance to win it in the 10th.
You know this is my son’s first season watching baseball and it’s going to break his heart when he finds out that walk off home runs actually don’t usually happen once a week! To think, I was a little worried earlier this season that he might start favoring the Mets when they got off to a fast start and the Yankees were languishing. If nothing else this season has solidified him a Yankee fan for life
That was awesome, way to go Cano! I loved watching that sail out. I loved listening to, “Well, disappointing ending to this game” — no, it wasn’t. It was a great ending for the people who root for a REAL franchise not some hicks in Chicago that aren’t even the most popular team in their own city. Go home White Sox.
I think the call was “That ball is definitely gone.”
Level 6 because… if not he’d be pitching and we’d lose another, he was just thankful he wasn’t going to get a chance to lose it
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes August 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Those lazy Dominicans…never come through when it matters…
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I agree that the Cano hate is way over the top. But let’s drop the race card stuff.
You cannot deny he hasn’t been the same hitter with RISP this season.
For whatever reason, he just hasn’t done the job very often. It’s legitimate criticism but people often take it to a ridiculously extreme level on this board.
Of course, they do it for most everything else, too.
BBFan – you mean, Joe G. might actually know something about baseball?
he actually said “This ball game is over” and he quotes ” a get me over” they were debating what he was gonna throw his good one or a get me over….
L to the 2nd August 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
So what did Hawk’s call sound like when Cano hit it?
LMAO
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He just said “AAAAAND….this ballgame is over” as soon as the ball left the bat.
L to the 2nd
August 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
So what did Hawk’s call sound like when Cano hit it?
LMAO
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He said “hopefully he doesn’t throw a get me over fastball, heres the 2-2, this game is over” as the ball was just passing the infield dirt lol.
Joe from Long Island August 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
BBFan – you mean, Joe G. might actually know something about baseball?
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I happen to like Girardi and I don’t complain about his every move like others on this board do.
But leaving Hughes in the 9th would have been the right move tonight. He has hardly worked at all the past month and guys like Bruney have obviously shown he can’t always be trusted.
Another great win for the Yanks.
Tomorrow looks like a washout. Day night on Sunday?
“BBFan – you mean, Joe G. might actually know something about baseball?”
Yes
Just a little bit more than the LoHud Author and the resident self proclaimed scholars
Dannngggg
August 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Good thing girardi isn’t some
of you idiots. Now mo and Hughes can go tmw and girardi got to see bruney is a tiny bit more reliable!
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That’s fine if the game doesn’t go 15 innings.
Preserving bullets is important because there’s still a ways to go, but at some point, you have to try and win the game you’re playing that night.
There would have been nothing wrong with going two with Hughes and one with Rivera.
If Hughes goes two today, he can’t go one tomorrow, now he can go one three times.
For whatever reason, he just hasn’t done the job very often. It’s legitimate criticism but people often take it to a ridiculously extreme level on this board.
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I think I am very fair. I bristle when others aren’t. Criticism is one thing. Using what are clearly bias epithets, like “lazy” “stupid” over and over again about a player raises my radar.
To be honest, I have a physical reaction to that kind of hate talk – it’s not constructive.
When criticism is legitimate, it’s fine. The tone of the criticism, and the words used make it pretty apparent whether someone is just expressing fan frustration, making an actual observation, or using a situation to take gratuitous shots and calling it baseball talk.
I think we both can recognize the difference. I am all for unsentimental critiques and sentimental rooting. I can’t and won’t abide those slurs, and if people employ them, I will come out here against it.
So you know the score with me
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“But leaving Hughes in the 9th would have been the right move tonight. He has hardly worked at all the past month and guys like Bruney have obviously shown he can’t always be trusted.”
GF
I usually agree with you, but not on this.
For one, Mo hasn’t pitched much either. The 9th at home belongs to Mo. Why change now?
I know some fans think we have to win every game at all costs. I don’t. With a huge lead in the division, This is exactly the time to find out about Bruney and Marte and others. The Yankees built up a lead. Now is the time to start taking advantage of it.
If this was October, different story.
GF,
BTW, I share the frustration but I also think that will change. I wouldn’t call it a small sample size, but I would predict it winds up an anomaly over the course of time, if only because the talent of the player in question isn’t commensurate with that anemic result.
It’s sort of similar to my patience with Joba and previously, Hughes. There’s just too much ability there to believe it won’t straighten itself out.
I also tend to think harping on a single stat like that – annoying though it may be – is very misleading.
I mean, it he never gets a hit with RISP -and to pre-empt not saying you said he “never” gets a hit in that situation – then he wouldn’t have been able to win the game.
Forgetting, for a minute, the really mean-spirited things people have said about this kid – just focusing on the harangue about the RISP-frustrated people: they can say whatever they want but I’m sometimes baffled that his obvious ability doesn’t give them some comfort that he will eventually come through.
Having said that, there are a lot of smart posters on here who constantly try to keep the Cano downers in check with reasonable comments on how talented he is.
Man – a lefty-hitting gifted hitter with some pop who turns the double play like a dream and hits lefties…. I just don’t think some people realize how lucky – smart? – the Yankees are.
Excellent post Bodhi.
Shut up bodhi, Cano is stupid, plays with no effort and smiles far too much. Baseball is serious business, all this “fun” tarnishes the regal tradition that is baseball. Robinson Cano spits in the face of all that is good about our sport.
GG tonight.
I think Patrick needs a group hug. Anybody, anyone, Bueller, Bueller? I don’t think there is a category for smiles too much.
In spite of your diatribe against Cano he has a lot of fans. I am one of them. He has the best DP throw from 2nd base I have seen in a long time.