Game 128: White Sox at Yankees (updates with Joba news)
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YANKEES (79-48)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Texeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (15-7, 3.59).
WHITE SOX (64-64)
Nix 2B
Beckham 3B
Thome DH
Konerko 1B
Dye RF
Quentin LF
Rios CF
Ramirez SS
Castro C
Pitching: LHP Mark Buehrle (11-7, 3.92).
TIME/TV: 7:05, MY9.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees start the day six games up on the Red Sox in the American League East and 3.5 games up on Los Angeles for home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. The Yankees have lost three of their last five.
STATE OF THE SOX: The White Sox have won only 10 of their last 23 games and have fallen four games out in the American League Central with 34 games left to play. The Men of Ozzie lost three of four in Boston before winning last night and have dropped four of their last five.
THAT’S CC AS IN COMPLETE CONTROL: Carsten Charles is 5-0 with a 2.65 ERA in his last five starts. Over 37.1 innings, he has allowed 28 hits, struck out 39 and walked only five.
AUGUST ACCOMPLISHMENT: CC has won 11 straight decisions in the month of August. He is 33-9, 3.16 in 51 career starts in August
CC VS. THE SOX: Sabathia is 15-4, 3.77 in 27 career starts against Chicago.
CC FOR THE CY: Sabathia leads the AL in wins and innings. He is eighth in ERA and strikeouts, third in WHIP. third in opponents batting average and tied for fifth in opponents OPS.
CC AT HOME IN THE BRONX: Others whine about Yankee Stadium. CC is 5-2, 3.62 in the bandbox and has allowed only five homers in 77 innings. When your stuff is that good, it doesn’t much matter where the fences are.
COKE IS NOT IT: Phil Coke has a 8.10 ERA since the All-Star break.
FREE PHIL HUGHES! FREE PHIL HUGHES! My friends at River Ave. Blues have a good post on the disappearance of Phil Hughes.
HEADING FOR A HUNDRED: Mark Teixeira has 97 RBI. He leads the American League. Only Prince Fielder (115), Ryan Howard (108) and Albert Pujols (107) have more.
HOME COOKING: The Yankees have won 16 of their last 20 at home.
DAMONIC: Johnny Damon is 9 of his last 20 and is up to .288.
HOMERLESS: Yesterday was one of five home games this season when the Yankees did not hit a home run. The FBI is looking into it.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Listening to an early 60s mix. Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love) by The Swingin’ Medallions is on. They were sort of a precursor to Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes, only less soulful.
Back with more later on.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Gates are open, they will try and play. Bring a book with you.
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.
UPDATE, 5:51 p.m.: To clarify the Job situation:
He will start Sunday and every five games (not days, games) moving forward.
The first few starts will be cut short at a pre-determined amount.
Then he will be built back up toward the end of the season.
The innings limit has not changed. This is just a different way of getting there.
He has pitched poorly in recent outings and the hope is that getting back to a regular routine will help him. Once the rosters expand on Tuesday, they’ll have a large enough bullpen to cover the gaps.
UPDATE, 5:58 p.m.: Here is Dave Eiland talking about it:
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UPDATE, 6:30 p.m.: The tarp is coming off the field. Looks like an on-time start.
UPDATE, 6:47 p.m.: Serena Williams is here to throw out the first pitch. She’s wearing a mini-skirt and black and pink Nike high-tops. She’s in the dugout now getting photos taken with different players.
UPDATE, 7:01 p.m.: Starting to rain. Umpires are talking. Could be trouble.
UPDATE, 7:02 p.m.: Lineup cards being exchanged. Looks like they will start the game.
UPDATE, 7:06 p.m: Serena threw the ball way over the head of Jose Molina. Funny.
CC warming up to Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G. He’s a true player.
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: We are underway. 67 degrees and rainy but they’re playing. Hope you enjoy the game. CC looking good so far.
UPDATE, 7:13 p.m.: Carsten Charles, yo.
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: Derek Jeter blow up a 1-2 pitch and drills it out to center. That’s 17 for the Captain. Mark Buehrle must be saying, “Here we go again with this team.”
UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: Hey, look, Melky doesn’t communicate and take charge of a ball. That is at least the third time that has happened this year.
If Brett Gardner hits once he comes back, he could become the postseason starter. Melky is melting down just like he did last season.
UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: CC picks up Melky by striking out the side.
UPDATE, 8:00 p.m.: Yankees should offer Damon a deal now. He’ll hit 20 homers a year playing at this park no matter how old he is. Yankees 2-0 and it could be more. Much like yesterday.
UPDATE, 8:02 p.m.: Robbie Cano, don’t you know … that he can’t hit with runners in scoring position. He’s 30 of 148 (.203).
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Yankees 0 for 6 with RISP. They’ve let Buehrle off the hook time after time. CC has to stay sharp. Not much wiggle room up 2-0.
UPDATE, 8:42 p.m.: In CC Sabathia, you are seeing a man at the top of his game right now. This is really impressive work, the way he commands his fastball.
UPDATE, 8:57 p.m.: Now CC has some issues. First and second and nobody out. This is where the poor job with RISP hurts them. He’ll have to do some real work here to retain the lead. CC needs a GIDP.
UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: One more to get and it’s Nix, who has two hits off CC already. CC trying to hold a 2-1 lead and he’s at 102 pitches.
UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: CC had his chances to keep the lead and missed it. He was ahead of Nix 0-2 and had Beckham 3-2. That kid is an impressive player.
UPDATE, 9:15 p.m.: Can’t believe Swisher made that great a throw. He never does that. The Yankees need a run to get CC a win. Hughes will come out for the eighth.
UPDATE, 9:23 p.m.: I’m checking the roster to see who this No. 65 is. Looks pretty good. Can’t recall seeing him pitch before.
UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes. Three swinging Ks. Philthy.
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: That’s it for Hughes. Mo for the ninth. If the Yankees are to win this one, it’ll be their 11th walk-off win of the season. Rain is coming down here pretty decent, too. Better win soon.
UPDATE, 9:57 p.m.: Girardi must really not want to use Posada. He did not pinch hit and nobody ran for Molina.
UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.: Extra innings, time to start a new post.
feel like early spring out there…not ready for the cold weather!
repost:
By no means expert advice, but I think someone wanted this, the final scores of last seasons postseason games
3-1
5-2
4-1
6-2
7-2
10-3
3-1
4-1
7-5
5-4
3-2
6-4
6-2
5-3
6-2
3-2
8-5
7-2
7-5
5-1
2-0
9-8
9-1
13-4
7-8
4-2
3-1
3-2
4-2
5-4
10-2
4-3
Mean Win Scr:5.677419355 Lose Scr:2.6875 Margin:3.0625
Conclusion: Playoff games are just as high scoring as regular season games. Winning is important.
It’s obvious that Mother Nature is NOT a Yankees fan.
DT – OPPC member
August 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Jeter SS – the kid from Kalamazoo
Damon LF – the ice man cometh * (great play)
Teixeira 1B – Danger Will Robinson Danger * (he’s a robot?)
Rodriguez DH – Kiss Me Kate
Swisher RF – Clowns have feelings too
Cano 2B – Do the hustle is so Donna Summers
Hairston 3B – Don’t call me Scott
Cabrera CF – I work for peanuts * (he’s nuts?)
Molina – C – I love Jorge more than u do
DT I like – but please explain the ones with asterisks.
so the blog must be getting really close to post 1 million, right?
If I win the lottery I’ll put a retractable roof on the NYS.
I’m thinking about the lineup for tonight and I’m wondering if Posada will play. Molina seems like Posada’s catcher….
If I had to take a guess it would be:
1. Jeter SS
2. Damon LF
3. Teixeira 1B
4. Rodriguez 3B
5. Swisher RF
6. Posada DH
7. Cano 2B
8. Cabrera CF
9. Molina C
Somewhere in NY, there is a person hoping for a rain out so they can see reruns of King of Queens on My9
DAMONIC: Johnny Damon is 9 of his last 20 and is up to .288.
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Because MPB is awesome
Mother Nature is confused.
Oh Phil Youuuuuse, where are you?
I like old Coke™
New Coke™ stinks
mel, from previous previous thread:
Mel, I’m done with Randy. He can ramble on if he so chooses.
And I will continue to state my opinion here as that is what a blog is for. It isn’t necessary that others agree with it. Some do some don’t. That’s life. I don’t agree with all opinions here but I respect peoples’ rights to have them and voice them even if I don’t agree with them. I don’t remember the last time I called someone’s idea stupid, silly, spouting nonsense, or any of the like. But I will respectfully disagree and will respond to anyone who respectfully disagrees with me.
Mother Nature is a MILF trying to lure ARod.
According to the comment #’s there have already been a million comments
AH Close with the lineup oh well
Erica – always OPPC
August 28th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Somewhere in NY, there is a person hoping for a rain out so they can see reruns of King of Queens on My9
That Dougie KILLS me!
“DT I like – but please explain the ones with asterisks.”
Uncle E –
I’m trying to be esoteric… lol
But since you asked nicely -
Damon is the ice skater in LF. (the way he glides precariously for each incoming missle)
Tex – is a robot. You need to watch some Lost in Space reruns. That’s what the robot always said to the kid.
Melky – loves his peanuts and porn stars. Watch the hotel video.
3rd win for me!
Confgratulations to todays winners of “Guess the Line Up”:
benfica356 2:15
NYYROC 2:15
Blackaccord 2:38
NYY626 3:02
Chambliss 3:08
Jon Locke 3:08
Rob in Vt 3:02
Please tune in Monday at 2pm for the last round of GTLU with me in charge!!
Ok DT
Who would be Dr. Smith? He still creeps me out.
(but Tex was un robotic on Letterman IMO)
Saw the Melk vid forgot about the peanuts.
Damon is tre-pe-dacious.
Was RS the official millionth post winner or did we calculate wrong the other night?
Dougie wears #14 for the NYY!!
“Maddux felt more comfortable throwing to a catcher who had spent the previous four days with him analyzing the strengths, weaknesses and tendencies of an opponent.”
trisha-
the fallacy of your argument s that mussina and maddox were and are incredibly bright guys.
their approach was so complex i could see them having a personal catcher who would spend the time to understand the complexity of their approach.
you really think aj burnett spends the time between starts coming up with a complex plan?
he throws two pitches that he doesn’t know where they are going to go from game to game.
what would burnett and his personal catcher go over?
where they are going to eat after the game?
Erica, I think its time for the announcement
“ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Listening to an early 60s mix. Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love)” –
Pete – Bruce sang that cover in Charleston, SC last August – but you probably already knew that!
Funny how much criticism Yankee stadium gets for being a “bandbox”. Yes there are more homeruns to RF but part of that is the home team is the best homerun hitting team in the league.
Additionally, doubles and triples are suppressed in this stadium so according to park factors it is essentially neutral. Meaning, the park, compared to other parks in the league, has little to no effect on the number of runs scored per game.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT-
I will be running GTLU on Monday 8/31 for the LAST time. Starting Tuesday 9/1, Benfica356 has graciously offered to take over GTLU hosting duties.
All GTLU standings will be reset on 9/1 and a new season of GTLU will begin. He will be in charge and his rules will be followed.
Rishi,
Boy you really do get behind on the news.
I think it was during a game thread, and I was in and out (of lucidity). When I jumped back on it was a couple hundred past. I commented about how funny it was because it was (RS?) who said “I hate Pedroia”.
I think I’m the only one who made mention of it. Not sure if Pete was serious about the prize or not. Hopefully he was.
randy vs. trisha
Now now children, don’t fight.
Rain just got much heavier 15 minutes from the Stadium.
Erica, rules for the last GTLU? My speech will be up shortly.
I will win mega millions before I ever win one game of GTLU.
I can’t believe Erica is leaving as GTLU host!!!
Now I know what all those crazy ladies felt like when Bob Barker was replaced by Drew Carey.
No special rules for Monday’s GTLU.
Although, no one can catch Miggs in the standings so I can safely name him “Ultimate Line Up Guesser” for the first season of GTLU.
I was worried for a while that Joe Girardi would win it
benfica,
Just curious, do we address you as “Sir” or “Madame”?
Comment # 1,000,000 on this blog occurred during Sunday Night’s game.
Here it is:
RS August 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I hate Pedroia.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....nt-1000000
DT-
Please shed no tears for me. I know The Price is Right was never the same without Bob Barker, but we will get through this tough transition together.
If benfica356 ever decides he has to leave his computer, I will be happy to Guest Host for him on weekdays
Miggs should be proud – Ultimate LUG is not a title to be taken lightly.
“you’re delusional.
it’s good you’re going to work pro bono because i can’t imagine anyone paying to have you around.”
Patrick, despite just having that lobbed at me by Randy, we’re not fighting because it takes two to fight. I’m through with posting to someone who can’t refrain from personal insults.
Nice link you left before dealing with what goes through pitchers’ minds. Very interesting.
We didn’t score yesterday without Jorge in the lineup, I doubt today is any different
He is the engine that makes us run. Jose is an automatic 0-4 every night…..
“RS August 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I hate Pedroia.”
LMAO. How appropriate.
I want to thank Erica for this opportunity and for what she has done with GTLU. It will be sad to not see you do this no more. However, I hope to keep this tradition alive(at least until the end of this year) and make GTLU as exciting as ever. I’ll conclude with this
LETS GO YANKEES!
Now lets clap it up for Erica
CLAP CLAP CLAP
and thanks for being the guest host for me, whenever I need it.
CLAP CLAP , CLAP CLAP CLAP
patrick-
didn’t you say:
” The bottom line is, Jorge Posada is the 2nd best catcher in MLB. The only guy that’s better is Joe Mauer. Brian McCann is close but not quite Posada. Posada should play as much as he is physically able to.
If you want Cervelli or Molina to catch rather than Posada you are crazy.”
A ceremony on a blog for the transitioning of made up power over a contest with no prizes.
Truly the saddest internet moment.
god this message board is sad.
“where they are going to eat after the game?”
Left out of the previous post on the prior thread so obviously added for effect.
Awww-
Thanks Benfica & Uncle E. You make me blush!
jerkface, you beat me to it. its truly pathetic.
“I will win mega millions before I ever win one game of GTLU. ”
Me too, DT. I gave up on GTLU, but I’ll never give up on Mega.
Angels close to acquiring Kazmir
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Clap Clap Fist bump
Jerkface
August 28th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
A ceremony on a blog for the transitioning of made up power over a contest with no prizes.
Truly the saddest internet moment.
*****
And that commentary has just earned you banned for life
Yes randy I did. Just stating my personal opinion.
Wow, how is it possible that Kazmir slipped through waivers? That’s a great move for the Angels…….as if it’s not hard enough to beat them anyway.
August 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
It’s obvious that Mother Nature is NOT a Yankees fan.
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But Rivera says: “God is a Jahnkee.”
God >>>nature
.
How the hell did Kazmir get through waivers?
Boston didn’t claim him just to block him or something?
“How the hell did Kazmir get through waivers?”
Good question. I know that he hasn’t been pitching well lately, but still – you have to block our your competition. And why isn’t TB pulling him back? Have they given up on this season?
Pretty sure that the saddest internet moment involved either the mourning of Michael Jackson or Bill Simmons.
Betsy,
Please. Kazmir has been nothing since the all-star break last season. I’m sure Lackey’s quaking in his boots.
If Jorge can stay healthy for the last 2 seasons of his 4 year deal, and continues to play at his career level, then Copperstown will be caling him in about 12 years…..Enough said……
Thank You Erica for doing GTLU all this time and thank you benfica356 for taking over duties
trisha,
I’m glad you enjoyed the link. I watched each pitch after reading about it, pausing the video in between. It was fascinating.
I also read the other posts that Schwimmer put up and it seems like that attitude of having a reason for every pitch is promoted by the head pitching instructor in the Phillies organization – Gorman Heimueller (sp?).
I think that “skill” is something guys like A.J. Burnett never learned. When he talks about learning how to pitch rather than throw I think this is the stuff he’s talking about. Reading the hitter’s body language, applying past experiences with the hitter, scouting reports and the game situation and then deciding on a pitch.
Really cool stuff. I especially like when Schwimer says that he knows he has the at-bat won even though the best hitter is at the plate with runners on 1st and 2nd and a 2-1 count. Then he explains why. Neat
Well so much for Tampa challenging Boston… they have thrown in the towel.
Are the prospects they got back any good?
Erica,
Not sure how I missed it, but why are you not doing the GLTU anymore? Is it a matter of not having the time? If it is, my suggestion is to hit Mega tonight and then you’ll have all the time (and $$$) in the world for … well….anything!!!!!
Good move by Tampa if they can get some prospects or something. Kazmir’s at a career lowpoint, and they probably have 3 guys sitting in the minors to replace him.
Does this mean, they’re conceding the season?
Who would mourn Bill Simmons?
“Here is a guy who is one of the cornerstone Yankees, a Dynasty Yankee—homegrown, durable, and so beloved fans serenade him with cheers of “Hip Hip Hor-Hay!” everywhere he goes.
This is also a guy who is hammered daily by those same fans for a supposed inability to catch, throw out runners, call games, or do anything remotely associated with the position he plays in any competent manner. Posada hasn’t won any Gold Gloves and never will. But to completely devalue everything he has ever done behind the plate is off base.
This is a guy who has caught nearly 1500 big league games. They just don’t let you do that if you are wholly inept. Posada’s game calling has been an issue with some pitchers, no doubt. But some very successful pitchers like Roger Clemens and Mike Mussina learned how to basically call their own games and not get out of sorts if Posada failed to call what they wanted to throw. These guys won a lot of games with Jorge Posada behind the plate.”
Read the rest of it here: http://www.wfan.com/What-s-The.....ntRating=1
This move will surely help the Angels, not a bad pitching staff at all.
They should send Coke back to the minirs for a few days and bring up Dunn. Coke needs a wake up call.
Re post
“Just pointing out that there are teams whose catchers don’t hit well. I would bet that is the majority.”
You are correct, most catchers don’t hit well. That’s why Posada catches unless he needs a day off. Good hitting catchers are hard to find. When you have one, you catch him as much as possible.
m
August 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Rishi,
Boy you really do get behind on the news.
I think it was during a game thread, and I was in and out (of lucidity). When I jumped back on it was a couple hundred past. I commented about how funny it was because it was (RS?) who said “I hate Pedroia”.
I think I’m the only one who made mention of it. Not sure if Pete was serious about the prize or not. Hopefully he was.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I was in NJ for a wedding this weekend and doing some crazy work travel – I totally missed it!!! I thought for sure there would be a post honoring that person!
“Boston didn’t claim him just to block him or something?”
Not sure if Boston could claim him prior to the Angels. They are both at the end of the list, just not sure if the Angels are ahead of Boston or not.
“Well so much for Tampa challenging Boston… they have thrown in the towel.”
Saves them some pretty big money ($20M over the couple years) and they have Wade Davis in AAA, who is supposedly about ready for the big time.
“Does this mean, they’re conceding the season?
”
Sure seems like it. Don’t know why… they are only 3.5 games out and they own Boston. Why not see if he reestablishes some value and trade him this winter?
He’s at his lowest value now anyway.
Haha “I hate Pedroia”
That works. At least the 1,000,000th comment wasn’t a red sox troll.
Laura
August 28th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Erica,
Not sure how I missed it, but why are you not doing the GLTU anymore? Is it a matter of not having the time? If it is, my suggestion is to hit Mega tonight and then you’ll have all the time (and $$$) in the world for … well….anything!!!!!
****
It isn’t really fun for me anymore and it got so popular that it really did begin to interfere with my job more than it should have. I planned to stop it after 8/31 because it was taking up so much time. Also, I figured after September call ups, the game would become so impossible there would be no winners. But benfica, graciously volunteered to take it over.
However, if I win the lottery- I will still go professional with it
Patrick, I loved it. To me Mike Mussina typified a guy who would go through that same kind of drill and the same mental gyrations to figure out where to go next. I also think that Pedro might be that kind of guy, though with him I think it was maybe a lot more instinct than intellect but still getting to the same place, if you know what I mean.
Tremendously fascinating stuff.
haha.
Pretty sure it would involve Bill Simmons OR the mourning of Michael Jackson.
Or both. I’m pretty sure he cracked on about Artest taking the #37 because that’s how many weeks “Thriller” stayed at the top of the charts. Sigh. The new SF for my team.
But at least he’s not wearing #13 like Billy Wagner!
Erica,
Thanks for your time and effort you have put into running GTLU.
And thanks to benfica356 for keeping it going for the remainder of the season.You’ve got some big shoes to fill,lol.
Even if the Angels claimed Kazmir, the Rays can still pull him back. I expect that’s exactly what they will do, they are still in this race and Kazmir has been a bit better in the 2nd half.
m
“We’re playing with a lot of urgency and a lot of excitement and confidence,” Alex Rodriguez said.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0PVi1WbLf
Boston had no reason to claim him… they know Tampa wouldn’t trade him to the Yankees anyway so they didn’t need to waste their time.
Though this hurts Boston because their projected ALDS 1st round opponent just got tougher to beat. Kazmir does well against Boston too, unlike the other Angels pitchers.
Why wouldn’t Boston try to acquire Kazmir?
well trisha, what would burnett and a personal catcher talk over during the week?
burnett doesn’t have the neuron power of mussina or maddox. they each had about 5-6 pitches they could command.
burnett has two he often can’t command.
what exactly would the complex plan be between burnett and his personal catcher?
wait i have it.
maybe burnett will say to the catcher ” when i forget in the middle of my wind up what the sign was that you just gave you, i’ll just yell “pie” and you’ll know i’m throwing a fastball.”
I as really hoping that this new thread would be a fresh start from the last two, or three, or four. But I see that the two combatants have reposted from the prior threads to continue their bickering here.
I come here for comraderie, shared opinions and discussion about all topics Yankees, with a few pop culture discussions thrown in from time to time. It has been, till now, a mostly pleasant place for me to take some “me” time – break time, as it were.
It’s becoming a very unhappy place lately. And very un-fun.
It’s a shame that a handful of people embroiled in childish back-and-forth can poison the entire atmosphere.
Time for me to take a time out.
It’s too bad. This is a great Yankee season. I thought the discourse would be a great shared experience.
Doreen-
Don’t do that!!! Stay and hang with us
“Why wouldn’t Boston try to acquire Kazmir?”
Maybe the Angels are ahead of them on the waiver claim list.
maybe burnett will say to the catcher ” when i forget in the middle of my wind up what the sign was that you just gave me, i’ll just yell “pie” and you’ll know i’m throwing a fastball.”
“Please. Kazmir has been nothing since the all-star break last season.”
Had quality starts in 5 of his last 6 outings.
“You are correct, most catchers don’t hit well. That’s why Posada catches unless he needs a day off. Good hitting catchers are hard to find. When you have one, you catch him as much as possible.”
Except in those instances when someone carries a personal catcher, as was the case with Mussina and Molina, and Maddux and not Javy. Then you are still using your offensive catcher for the majority of starts, so it evens out.
How exactly do we know that was the 1,000,000th comment?
The report is the Angels are on the verge of actually getting him. That is horrible for the Rays as the prospects are irrelevant. He’s owed $8 mill next year, $12 in 2011 and then an option with a $2.5 buyout.
It is possible the way he pitched teams didn’t bother. The Rays if they lose the whole contract free up money to potentially retain Carl crawford. they would still have Shields, Garza, Price and then Nieman and some minor league talent to round out the rotation.
It would still be ridiculous if he made it all the way thru to them.
“Maybe the Angels are ahead of them on the waiver claim list.”
angels have the better record so boston would have dibs first
Doreen-
Just skip over those posts.
From the posted cnnsi.com article:
“It seems like everybody contributes and we’re doing our job with men on base,” Cano said. “Everything is coming together. When you’re winning, it feels like something good is going to happen.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0PVjtp4N4
hopefully kaz helps the angels beat the red sox in the alds!
Doreen,
Don’t go! You’re the only other sane person here.
Trisha’s promised to hold her tongue. Right, trisha?
And in what world would Boston be behind the Angels on the waiver wire?
They passed on him. Good move, I say. (even though 5 of his last 6 starts have been quality).
Boston had every reason to claim him because they could have blocked the Yankees. The issue is with the money left if people think his arm is an issue and will get worse, they could end up eating a contract the Rays are trying to rid themselves of
If they use that money to re-sign Crawford, it’s not a terrible move for TB.
“m
August 28th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Doreen,
Don’t go! You’re the only other sane person here.”
What are you implying?
Maybe this is Boston’s payback for us claiming Chris Carter… they decided not to claim Kazmir, having inside info that the Angels wanted him. So Theo decided not to claim him and allow the Angels to get him to tweak us because he knows the Angels own us.
Carl MA
August 28th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
We didn’t score yesterday without Jorge in the lineup, I doubt today is any different
He is the engine that makes us run. Jose is an automatic 0-4 every night…..
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molina serves a purpose but any smart manager limits his starts if he has a better offensive choice.
once burnett gets bombed with molina catching we will all see that he is a whiner.
do you actully think that burnett is all of a sudden going to get better from his career stats with molina catching???
not going to happen.
because a pitcher prefers a certain catcher does not mean the results are better.
the bottom line is with molina catching over posada a player or players have to compensate in some shape or form for the offensive defficiency.a pitcher,etc….
I wouldn’t say Burnett only has 2 pitches. He has 4-seamer, curve as his primary pitches but we’ve seen him use a 2-seamer and change-up.
One game to get more length he went almost exclusively to the 2-seamer.
That being said I’d bet that he isn’t thinking nearly as much as someone like Mussina or Maddux. Those two guys were wizards up on the mound. Maddux is probably the smartest pitcher I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching.
I remember a story when him and Brad Penny were both pitching for the Dodgers. One day Maddux pulled Penny aside and discussed all of Penny’s pitches with him. Penny realized that Maddux knew more about his pitching than he himself did. So Penny asked Maddux to call a game for him. For one game, on every pitch Maddux signaled to Penny what to throw from the dugout.
Penny ended up throwing 7 innings, no runs, no walks.
Thanks Erica. Good luck to you as well!
The problem for the Rays too is they aren’t drawing fans again this year even after last year.. I am sure money as always is an issue for them.
Bronx Jeers August 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
How exactly do we know that was the 1,000,000th comment?
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move your cursor over the link. The link address will appear, and it ends with the suffix #comment-1000000
From the posted cnnsi.com article:
And typical, pragmatic Jeter:
“We’ve still got to continue to do what we’re doing, because we have not accomplished anything yet…It seems like it gets harder and harder to win.”
Doreen
Don’t let others spoil your “me” time.
I just skip over their posts now. They may have intelligent things to say but I’m not going to muck through looking for it
Phranchise,
You just answered your own question. Boston didn’t claim because there’s a very good chance they’d get “stuck” with the contract.
Kazmir’s good, bound to rebound, but I think this is potentially a good move for Tampa.
Price is more fearsome than Kazmir at this point.
m
August 28th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Doreen,
Don’t go! You’re the only other sane person here
****
I am not crazy
Keith
August 28th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Thanks Erica. Good luck to you as well!
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Keith,
I am not going anywhere. I just needed a little break from the GTLU fun
Tampa wouldn’t have traded Kazmir within the division anyway. Unlike Toronto, Tampa has an actual chance to make the playoffs this year and probably next year.
Kazmir was considered to be one of the best young lefties in the AL just 2 years ao. It just shows how quickly it can all change. Just as no one could have predicted this 2 years ago, there’s no sensible prediction for Joba and Phil either. Who would have ever thought that Joba’s fastball would at times be below average as a starter? Baseball’s a funny game.
Yes, but for Boston, their rotation this year is a problem which will be the same next year. Kazmir’s contract could be absorbed by them over the next two years. Remember not a ton of free agent pitchers on the market this year and Beckett is a free agent after the end of next season. Kazmir would actually make sense unless they think he is done.
going tonight…delta club for 70 bucks…i love stubhub
I think it will be interesting watching Molina catch CC tonight and then Joba. If the offense can get its job done maybe he can at least get Joba back on the right page. CC is obviously fine with either catcher behind the plate. Joba seems to have more difficulty though I am wondering if he has an injury going on since he came back after the ASB like a house of fire and then dropped off.
I’ve always been crazy, it’s helped me from goin’insane.
Thanks for the link pat and Rishi. Here’s my favorite part:
“It all starts in here. If we can’t get along in here, we ain’t going to be able to get along on the field,” Burnett said. “Everybody will tell you, you don’t have to necessarily love everybody you play with, but you’ve got to like ‘em and respect ‘em.
“I think everybody in here almost does love each other, though,” he added. “That’s the crazy thing about it. We’ve all been here not even a year yet and I don’t know, I’ve heard a bunch of people say that the guys that have been here are opening up more and being themselves. I wasn’t here in the past so I can’t attest to that or anything, but I think it’s awesome here. I love every day I come in here. I come to work happy every day.”
Doreen, please don’t go! I know it’s annoying to try to ignore the idiocy, but you add so much to this forum, and would truly be missed if you leave.
I think too much is being made of Phil Hughes lack of IP recently. Lets remember that we want him fresh in October. So a little rest now and then get him going in September (possibly with some save situations to give Mo rest then) and he should be prepared mentally and physically for the playoffs. He has a lot of baseball yet to play this year.
lol, are people actually taking offense at my little “joke” with Doreen?
She’s a nice Italian girl and I’m a not-so-nice Japanese-Caucasian girl that lives 6000 miles apart, but we’re like kindred spirits.
Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup / aka Clank ) …You’re a baseball guy, a former player in the midst of a disagreement with a fan with great zeal and conviction to what she percieves to be correct…..Turn your back to the wind, if you get my drift…….
ummm…this is interesting…
The Los Angeles Angels are nearing a deal to acquire left-hander Scott Kazmir from the Tampa Bay Rays, according to sources.
Boston still could have blocked the move to the Angels, who’ll they’ll face in the playoffs.
Oh by the way, You were a catcher at that…..Move on….
Some dude went nuts and broke the 2008 Scranton Wilkes-Barre Championship trophy. That’s not cool. Kei Igawa worked hard to earn that championship
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
The Swinging Medallions-Double Shot
Actually stored on mine also. Beginning to tell my age.At the time, great lyrics.
Woke up this morning, my head was so bad
The worst hangover that I ever had
What happened to me last night
That girl of mine, she loved me so right (yeah!) (oh, oh)
She loved me so long and she loved me so hard
I finally passed out in her front yard (whoo!)
It wasn’t wine that I had too much of
It was a double shot of my baby’s love
m
August 28th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
lol, are people actually taking offense at my little “joke” with Doreen?
of course not.
Phranchise,
Of course we’ve talked about Boston’s issues in the rotation for ’10.
That they passed up on Kazmir speaks volumes on Kazmir’s apparent value right now.
This creates an interesting dynamic, though.
I never thought about it, but the Red Sox could certainly go after Lackey this offseason.
m-
That was a good natured tease….
Can someone explain to me why people hate Posada so much? seriously….Does AJ Burnett deserve to make excuses…he is 1/10th of a major league pedigree that posada has. Do yankee fans love him because he throws pies in peoples faces? It like I dont get why some yankee fans love swisher so much, is it because he twitters? I doubt it is for his .240 batting average and his horrible defense.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Gates are open, they will try and play. Bring a book with you.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma.
August 28th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
“You are correct, most catchers don’t hit well. That’s why Posada catches unless he needs a day off. Good hitting catchers are hard to find. When you have one, you catch him as much as possible.”
Except in those instances when someone carries a personal catcher, as was the case with Mussina and Molina, and Maddux and not Javy. Then you are still using your offensive catcher for the majority of starts, so it evens out.
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so far girardi is saying no catching preferences so unless he changes his policy it is not happening.
he also said a catcher suggests pitches only & the pitcher has to execute properly.
this is from a catcher.
if you believe:
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yanks could after Lackey also…
CC, AJ, Lackey not a bad top three
“CC, AJ, Lackey not a bad top three”
It would be CC, Lackey, AJ
“Aroldis Chapman continues to practice in Spain and is close to establishing residency in another country, according to Jorge Arangure Jr. of ESPN.com. The Cuban pitcher is considered one of the best amateur talents in the world.”
Ching Ching
“Can someone explain to me why people hate Posada so much?”
No.
Yeah, but the issue with Lackey is, this is his last chance at a big deal. Sox will not offer him more than 4 years at their price. Two seasons of injuries and he isn’t quite what he has been in the past so might be showing signs of decline. I doubt they do that. I think the Sox will make a big pitch to land King Felix, Matt Cain or a young impact guy this year who they can control for a while or make another run at getting Oswalt. They definitely will need another high end pitcher. Wakefield eventually has to retire. Bucholz will definitely have limited innings and may not be good. Dice K we have already seen on his way down. That’s it. Lackey is a possibility, but I definitely think they will try to make a big splash, trading for a pitcher, resigning Bay and then bringing in another offense weapon. I am actually surprised they aren’t in love with Tulowitski or someone along those lines at short.
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.
UPDATE, 4:21 p.m.: Gates are open, they will try and play. Bring a book with you.
Books and Rain dont mix
“UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.”
Great… so we have to burn our bullpen even more than originally planned!
I haven’t read a book since high school.
yeah I dont get the posada bashing. I get that he is not a great defensive catcher and may or may not call a good game.(he is a bit of a hot head) But he is a great hitter and may or may not be the real leader of the team.
“UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.”
No more excuses Joba. You’re getting the ball every five days so make the best of it.
Joba is usually at 100 pitches around 4-5 innings anyway, so they should not have screwed with him to begin with.
Enough Molina over Posada Talk
Who here hates Posada?? I know I’m new here, but it seems to me it’s all pro-Posada (as it should be).
Rishi
Using the NY Daily News as a source to discredit something written in the Post is like citing Wikepedia in a thesis.
How long are they going to wait tonight to get the game in?
Tomorrow’s game is at 1 PM… so they can’t wait too long. It’s a quick turnaround. Not like the Nats game where the next game was only the next night so they could afford to wait.
Erica I was referring to Mega Millions tonight. If I can’t win I hope you do.
Good fortune.
Yankees may bring Andy back. That means they are set on top four with Hughes waiting in the wings. They will not sign another big contract for a pitcher, but might be willing to take a gamble on Ben Sheets, Duchscherer or Rich Harden on a shorter incentive laden deal that they can control. That I could see. They will need to solidify the OF spots somehow.
“UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.”
Good news. So when some of us suggested that Joba was possibly having a hard time because he hadn’t pitched in a while as opposed to the theory that he just won’t listen to anyone, it appears that our thinking might actually have had some credibility.
Tomorrow will tell in a positive way, hopefully.
“Great… so we have to burn our bullpen even more than originally planned!”
Maybe that’s what Penny is for.
IF the game gets played tomorrow.
Great… so we have to burn our bullpen even more than originally planned!
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This is no different than Chamberlain getting burned on long rest and having Gaudin/Mitre pitch 5 behind him.
Our 5th start is either Gaudin or Mitre and the other one backs up Joba, its perfectly fine.
I like this plan. Plus the ‘short stints’ can always be one of:
- We clinched the division! Time to kick back!
- We are winning and Joba looks like he is in trouble, lets just take him out!
- Wow he made it through 5 and we have a lead, lets just take him out!
Innings limits, Innings schimits… back in my day, we threw 400 innings. We threw 9-10 innings a game, on 3 days rest. We used to throw 100 pitch side sessions as well.
Time to stop babying these pitchers and let them loose. What’s the worst that could happen?
pat
August 28th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Rishi
Using the NY Daily News as a source to discredit something written in the Post is like citing Wikepedia in a thesis.
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I got it off cnn.com if that helps
okay here you go:
CC
Lackey
AJ
Andy
Joba..I guess?????
Do we consider wang officially dead?
Erica,
lol. i was talking to uncle.
and no one hates posada, but there was some overreaction that led to a s*itstorm.
According to Heyman and Olney, Rays are making the move as a salary dump so they can free money for other players. Really poor timing on this for sure for the Rays. He would have been tradeable in the offseason and let teams bid on him. Makes no sense to do this now.
Once the rosters expand, we’ll have like 12 arms in the pen. We can use Melancon, Albaladejo, Gaudin etc. to pitch in Joba’s games.
“I am actually surprised they aren’t in love with Tulowitski or someone along those lines at short.”
They probably are. They should be. The Rox ain’t trading him though.
I thought Boston might jump on Scutaro in free agency for a 2 year deal or so til I saw he’s a Type A free agent. Also wouldn’t shock me to see them discuss JJ Hardy with the Brewers.
joba is annoying…but the yanks are screwing with him too much..
If we had stuck to my original plan, which was Joba for 5, Hughes to finish up, we wouldn’t have problems.
“Great… so we have to burn our bullpen even more than originally planned!”
Rosters expand to 40 players on Tuesday.
“Yankees may bring Andy back. That means they are set on top four with Hughes waiting in the wings. They will not sign another big contract for a pitcher, but might be willing to take a gamble on Ben Sheets, Duchscherer or Rich Harden on a shorter incentive laden deal that they can control. That I could see. They will need to solidify the OF spots somehow.”
I agree with you about the pitchers as I see Pettitte back next season. Joba will be able to go 180-200 innings next year with Hughes about 150 innings with Kennedy, Aceves, McAllister and Nova as back up options along with a proven ML starter on a incentive laden deal that might be coming back from injury.
Wang will not be picked up, two straight seasons of being hurt. If he goes to arbitration they will end up paying him more than guys they can simply get on the open market. It is possible, but I think unless Wang comes back for less money, his days are over. Injuries and dependence on the two pitches simply will be too much of a gamble relative to a guy like Sheets or Harden
I assume we will see Chapman in pinstripes at some point in 2010.
Reports say the Angels are close to acquiring LHP Scott Kazmir from the Rays.
Are the Rays giving up on the Wild Card ?
Great move for the Angels… Kazmir does very well against the Yankees and Red Sox.
He has sucked this year, but in 4 games against the Yankees and Red Sox… he is 4-0 with an ERA just under 3.
trisha, Joba pitches Sunday
trisha
how do you explain jobas 3 straight gems after a long rest ???
joba is just not executing properly
The Yankees can claim the players in the trade to block Kazmir. It would make the LAA of LA, USA, and Earth keep two players on their 40 man.
The Yankees would have claimed Kaz if they could have. Boston would have as well–I think they are higher than the LAA–why didn’t they?
Everyone assumes the Yankees will release Wang. I hope that’s not the case but since he may not return until the middle of 2010 and may never be the pitcher he was, I can see the logic. If Yankees keep him they can’t offer more than a twenty percent pay cut in arbitration. He’s worth the chance IMO, if only because of what he has done in the past.
“Good news. So when some of us suggested that Joba was possibly having a hard time because he hadn’t pitched in a while as opposed to the theory that he just won’t listen to anyone, it appears that our thinking might actually have had some credibility.”
Or they’re taking that so-called excuse away from him so now he has to produce since he’s going every five days.
I never understood the innings limits. Isn’t a smooth 7-inning outing easier on the arm/shoulder than a rough, 35-pitch-an-inning, 3-inning outing?
Thanks M.
Take it from Boston, never ever have too much pitching. Try to get Sheets, Chapman, and bring Pettitte back. Wang will be an option too in September.
Trisha -
You see what you do?? Instead of just saying, great news about Joba or whatever, you turn it into a contest again.
m you know I was kidding too, right?
“If we had stuck to my original plan, which was Joba for 5, Hughes to finish up, we wouldn’t have problems.”
Thank you. You and I both said tandem pitching was the way to go in the offseason and we were shot down.
“how do you explain jobas 3 straight gems after a long rest ???”
He had ONE gem after a long rest. The 2nd two were on regular rest, something he hasn’t been on since.
“how do you explain jobas 3 straight gems after a long rest ???”
There’s a big difference between vacation at home in Nebraska and showing up for work every day but having nothing to do.
Loner August 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Innings limits, Innings schimits… back in my day, we threw 400 innings. We threw 9-10 innings a game, on 3 days rest. We used to throw 100 pitch side sessions as well.
Time to stop babying these pitchers and let them loose. What’s the worst that could happen?
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“I assume we will see Chapman in pinstripes at some point in 2010.”
That’s another reason why I don’t see the Yankees signing an “A” type free agent starter other than their own Andy Pettitte. Chapman will be another option once he grabs some minor league time to get him acclimated to pitching over here.
looking at weather.com, it looks like 100% rain from 11:00 on. if the game doesn’t start at 7, i see no way this game is going down…..
This just proves that the Yankees have no plan… they are creating it on the fly.
Joba will improve when he stops being a nibbler. He nibbles like a pitcher who throws junk. He needs to challenge hitters. He no longer throws in the high nineties, but his fastball is good enough. And he needs to listen to his mgr., pitching coach and catcher. If he doesn’t, it won’t matter who his catcher is.
“Chapman will be another option once he grabs some minor league time to get him acclimated to pitching over here.”
Don’t think we should assume it’ll be for the Yankees.
http://twitter.com/jorgearangure
done deal angles get da big lefty
“UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.”
Unbelievable. lol. I hope this game they’re playing doesn’t end up costing us in the long run THIS season.
“looking at weather.com, it looks like 100% rain from 11:00 on. if the game doesn’t start at 7, i see no way this game is going down…..”
looks like 100% from 7 on!
“Don’t think we should assume it’ll be for the Yankees.”
As a fan, I can assume anything, it’s Cashman that has to make the correct decision as to what he’s going to do about pitching.
Just move this guy to the pen and sign Brad Penny
This “plan” they have for him is ridiculous and the results have been below average.
Kazmir is a move I would have liked to have seen the Yankees make.
“Gates are open, they will try and play. Bring a book with you.”
Cool. Didn’t know they make waterproof books.
“Some starts will be less than five innings. ”
How is this different from his other starts?
uncle,
Now I do! Very good with the subtle humor, completely undetected on my radar.
pat,
Kazmir to the Angels could be a blessing in disguise for the Yankees if it means that the Yankees will not face him as frequently in September (the Yankees have 6 games left with Tampa and 3 left with the Angels). For the postseason, Kazmir with the Angels poses a problem for the Yankees and/or Red Sox, although the Sox own the Angels in the postseason so they probably don’t care if the ghost of Cy Young pitches for the Angels.
I would think that the Sox would have put a claim in for Kazmir to block him from going to the Angels, but perhaps they would rather let him get out of the division.
“Kazmir is a move I would have liked to have seen the Yankees make.”
The Rays would’ve asked for Montero, Hughes, or Chamberlain. That’s the cost for trading within a division.
Obviously, the Yankees wouldn’t make that deal.
Joba forgets he’s in the bigs as a power pitcher…Everything he has in his arsenal works off of his fastball…….Next season we’ll see a much better conditioned Joba…However he really is the key to the Bombers fortunes come October……Tricia, time to call a time-out…..Too much negative energy
“Does this mean, they’re conceding the season?
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“Sure seems like it. Don’t know why… they are only 3.5 games out and they own Boston. Why not see if he reestablishes some value and trade him this winter?
He’s at his lowest value now anyway.”
With the way Kazmir’s been pitching, having one of their better arms in the minors come up may actually be more effective for them, and september call ups often brings surprises. The Rays aren’t going anywhere.
“Great… so we have to burn our bullpen even more than originally planned!
Rosters expand to 40 players on Tuesday.”
But how many pitchers will actually be called up? Looking at the 40 man roster the healthy minor league pitchers are Albaladejo, Claggett, Dunn, Melancon, Ramirez. With Scranton in Int. League playoffs they have to leave some pitchers down there.
And any game that involves more than one of the pitchers listed above is probably one the Yankees aren’t winning.
guys dat rumlo sachez guy in triple A for us.. throw a 100
I agree with them using Joba every 5th day. Thought they were dumbasses when they stopped doing so in July. Starting pitchers are creatures of habit. Joba was in a groove and it was, in some part, broken up by messing with how he was being used IMO.
Leaving work now. Going to a party further east on Long Island tonight so I will catch you all much later on tonight.
Enjoy the game if there is one!
The rays are freeing payroll for Roy Halladay
Rose,
I think we all thought that. But I brought up Joba’s control as a prospect. Some posted it was not the best.
So, is it nibbling or just missing his spots?
I don’t think he’s challenging hitters with his “heat” because it’s not there like it was out of the bullpen (for whatever reason).
But that 3-2 slider needs to be shelved. You’ve got 4 plus pitches to choose from. Jeez.
yankees shud call up rumalo sachez from AAA.. he throws 100 mph .. i tink he’ll help out the bullpen
LOL….
100 mph doesnt do much if it has no movement or location…see Joel Zumaya and his 104 mph straight fastball…
Why was Joba’s slider so deadly as a reliever but so bad as a starter?
“The rays are freeing payroll for Roy Halladay”
Doubt it. I think they feel good about Davis replacing Kazmir and are freeing up money to address some upcoming arbitration matters (Upton, Bartlett, Zobrist, Garza, etc) and maybe see if they can extend Crawford. In the end though, I think they move Crawford too.
We’re not going to bring up all of our relievers on September 1st… maybe Albaladejo, that’s about it. The rest will come up when the playoffs are over.
So we’ll only have one extra arm
Why was Joba’s slider so deadly as a reliever but so bad as a starter?
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League hadn’t seen it, league didnt have a book on how often he would throw it or in what counts (ALL OF THEM!)
Being in the bullpen allowed him to air out so he could sit at 97 for an AB. Throwing harder out of the pen gave it more break.
Its still a plus pitch as a starter but he needs to be able to throw it for strikes and mix in his other pitches and mix up when he throws it.
You can see some of the swings he gets on it, its still deadly, but hitters are bettr able to lay off cause they know its coming.
“how do you explain jobas 3 straight gems after a long rest ???
joba is just not executing properly”
I think we’ve said the same thing.
benfica – thanks.
Raining in Rhody. Wondering if they are going to get the game in in beantown.
Well the Rays have Andy Sonnanstine and Wade Davis in AAA to take Kazmir’s spot. More importantly, the Rays save the $23.5MM remaining on Kazmir’s deal. Perhaps Carl Crawford doesn’t get traded this winter…
“Why was Joba’s slider so deadly as a reliever but so bad as a starter?”
Couple things IMO:
1) He doesn’t throw it for strikes anymore
2) When his fastball was 97-98, batters had to be geared up for that kind of heat and the slider was a harder pitch to identify and kept them off balance. When he’s throwing 92-95, his slider is far less lethal.
“So we’ll only have one extra arm”
I think you’re wrong. I think they bring up at least two relievers and will supplement SWB with pitchers and players from Trenton because they’re not making the playoffs this year.
“Why was Joba’s slider so deadly as a reliever but so bad as a starter?”
Teams know that he wants to throw it for a strikeout, so they’re sitting on it.
Ray perhaps would not trade Kazmir to either Yankees or RSox, anyhow. Is there any truth in the rumer that his velocity is down this season? (I have gave him up earlier in the season for my fantacy teams)
A good move by the Angels today.
1) He doesn’t throw it for strikes anymore
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He rarely threw it for strikes as a reliever, it was always down and in or down and away. Sure, he would throw it for a called one every now and then, but he does that as a starter now.
He really just needs to mix in his curve and change more so that his slider isn’t the only thing on opposing batters minds.
Doreen – please, don’t read my posts. Because you will continue to see things that aren’t there or aren’t intended.
I have the right to voice an opinion. You don’t have to agree with it. I am thinking that there could be a problem with Posada and Joba in terms of personality. If I’m wrong then I am. But I am interested in watching to see if there is a difference.
Not everything is meant to knock down Posada. Some pitchers and catchers work better together than others.
Another good move by LA with Kazmir.
He can’t locate the slider and he throws it too often.
The book on him is to just take, take, take. Even 3-2, take it.
Clare, thank you for posting that! I almost want to cry…….now why can’t this blog be like the Yankees clubhouse. I’ll bet AJ and Posada, if they argue at all, it’s like brothers……Let’s all hold hands and sing Kumbaya, lol.
Why did he stop throwing the curve? That was a great pitch for him earlier in the year… remember that start in Detroit?
Can we give both Posoda and AJ a day off (for today, since neither of them in the lineup)?
“I have the right to voice an opinion. You don’t have to agree with it. I am thinking that there could be a problem with Posada and Joba in terms of personality. If I’m wrong then I am. But I am interested in watching to see if there is a difference.
Not everything is meant to knock down Posada. Some pitchers and catchers work better together than others.”
Trisha,
Yet you’ve said the same thing about AJ and Posada. Back in the day, you were a Posada supporter. What happened?
“Tricia, time to call a time-out…..Too much negative energy”
Excuse me? Everyone who can’t stand my posts should skip them. If Pete emails me and tells me I shouldn’t be posting because my opinions upset too many people then I will refrain from posting.
If he feels that way I would hope that he would email me rather than say it on the forum.
“Another good move by LA with Kazmir.”
Does LA make any bad moves? lol
They acquired the pitcher that owns the Yankees AND Red Sox. Not easy to find….
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain will be in the rotation moving forward, meaning he will pitch every five games. They decided he needed to pitch more regularly. The innings limit hasn’t changed. Some starts will be less than five innings.
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I’ve suggested this idea before and been criticized for it but I will suggest it again…since it appears that the Yankees are slowly working their way to what I suggested.
The right way to handle Joba (in order to meet his innings limit) is to start Mitre or Gauguin on Joba’s starts and only pitch 3 or 4 innings. Then, they should bring in Joba in the 4th (or 5th inning) and let Joba pitch the next 4 innings. That allows Joba to pitch every 5th day and allows him to pitch those innings in a game that allow him to get a decision. I will be criticized, again, for this idea but I guarantee you…its what the Yankees are aimlessly migrating to.
“yankees shud call up rumalo sachez from AAA.. he throws 100 mph .. i tink he’ll help out the bullpen”
He use to thro 97 he never touched triple digits, I guess Chaves did some mechanical tweaking w/ him, still I wouldn’t trust him b/c control has always been his issue.
“Does LA make any bad moves?”
Answers to this and other questions can be found at:
Garymatthews.halo
Craw – I am still a Posada supporter. I was down on his catching when the team went 12-23 but I believe he and his pitchers have worked hard to get things right.
I just am a bigger supporter of Molina catching AJ due to personality types. I don’t see where that has turned into such a huge crime, but I guess it has.
“Hoffman is the best closer of all-time”
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/20.....or-hoffman
This guy obviously doesn’t know what he is talking about.
“The right way to handle Joba (in order to meet his innings limit) is to start Mitre or Gauguin on Joba’s starts and only pitch 3 or 4 innings. Then, they should bring in Joba in the 4th (or 5th inning) and let Joba pitch the next 4 innings. That allows Joba to pitch every 5th day and allows him to pitch those innings in a game that allow him to get a decision. I will be criticized, again, for this idea but I guarantee you…its what the Yankees are aimlessly migrating to.”
What does Joba learn by pitching mop-up innings? He needs to learn how to manage a game from the beginning, not clean up after Sergio Mitre’s mess.
Nice try, but the Yankees aren’t bringing Joba Chamberlain out of the bullpen.
Is it so crazy to switch Hughes and Joba for next few weeks (I am sticking my ignorant neck out here, be merciful), then switch back for the final tune up?
Cash, how is Phil going to be at 150 innings? He’s sorely lacking in innings this year as it is….no way do I see the yankees jumping him that many next year.
Joba is probably just shaking his head when he got news of this new schedule
“What the hell is this team thinking? Do they even have a plan? They’re crazy”.
“I just am a bigger supporter of Molina catching AJ due to personality types. I don’t see where that has turned into such a huge crime, but I guess it has.”
Trisha,
It’s kind of ironic in a sense because if I remember correctly, if anybody spoke a negative word about a Yankee player, you would have his back and then some. Your battles with Red Sox fans were legendary back then.
“Is it so crazy to switch Hughes and Joba for next few weeks (I am sticking my ignorant neck out here, be merciful), then switch back for the final tune up?”
Hughes is barely pitching to begin with. By the time they stretch him out sufficiently, the season will be over.
You can’t just go from pitching 1 inning to pitching 5, 6, 7 innings.
“Is it so crazy to switch Hughes and Joba for next few weeks (I am sticking my ignorant neck out here, be merciful), then switch back for the final tune up?”
Might not have been 30-45 days ago, but it is now. Hughes can’t be stretched out in time for it happen. Less jerking around of these guys done, the better.
bru I still have a ton of faith that Joba can be a tremendous starter so whatever it takes to get him fixed, the Yankees need to do it.
The Angels make plenty of sucky moves:
- Never trading their prospects and watch as they end up not being as valuable as hoped
- Trading their prospects then not locking up the guy they got
- Signing 100 outfielders, giving GMJ a terrible contract
They are very lucky to be in the division they are in. I think if they lived in the AL east the story would be a lot different.
But don’t get me wrong, they have a lot of great players and their manager is a real prick to play against.
Win-Win for both teams
Angels buy low on a potential ace pitcher… one who has postseason experience from last year and has excellent numbers against the Red Sox and Yankeees – 2 teams they probably will face this winter.
Tampa gets rid of that contract and can allot it to pay their other young players. They can bring up Wade Davis who is a stud.
No, Trisha, I see a lot of what you do here. Now, it’s Joba and Posada who can’t be teamed? Let’s see…AJ, Joba, CC — anyone else????
I told myself I wouldn’t do this. But you know what? You seem to say whatever you want. I will now do the same. It’s impossible to continue to skip posts, as it tends to disrupt the flow of things. And for me, it’s hard to do.
you are one of the most difficult people here. Yes, there are others with strong opinions, GB7, Randy l, SJ, CB – and others, with whom I have disagreed, and with whom others have disagreed. But no one takes it to your level, Trisha. No one.
You say you are tolerant, but I strongly disagree. Plus you don’t ever let things go. You even brought up your vies on CMW which are over a year old.
I’ve had it. It’s not cute, despite all the smileys you use.
Cash, how is Phil going to be at 150 innings? He’s sorely lacking in innings this year as it is….no way do I see the yankees jumping him that many next year.
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I feel like I have posted this a million times. Cashman and the yankees have stated their innings limits are HISTORICAL which means that Hughes threw 146 innings in the minors as his career high and his innings limits in the majors will be between 160-180. Plenty enough.
It’s not Joba’s place to think. And it’s not like the team was telling him, “Hey you’re pitching tomorrow.”
A lot of teams would put him in the pen or back to AAA to control the innings.
Joba should feel nothing but the love and respect the Yankees are showing him.
“Joba is probably just shaking his head when he got news of this new schedule”
If that statement is true, then Girardi would be the fifth catcher Joba has shaken off this year.
We don’t need Hughes as a starter in September… we need a starter for the playoffs.
Then again, Hughes is our only reliable reliever in the pen at the moment outside of MO… so if we take him out, Coke and Bruney are expected to get big outs for us?
Everyone needs to understand that Joba is a special case because he never pitched a ton in college and was barely in our minor league system.
Hughes was a yankee out of high school.
“It’s kind of ironic in a sense because if I remember correctly, if anybody spoke a negative word about a Yankee player, you would have his back and then some. Your battles with Red Sox fans were legendary back then.”
Things haven’t changed Craw. Posada and Molina are both Yankee players. I was a big fan of Molina catching Moose because it seemed to work better. My desire to see one catch in certain situation over the other means doesn’t mean I am dismissing the other entirely. I was never someone who said Posada shouldn’t be catching at all. I acknowledged the need for his outstanding offense from jump street.
“Joba is probably just shaking his head when he got news of this new schedule
“What the hell is this team thinking? Do they even have a plan? They’re crazy”.”
I’m sure a big reason for this is because Joba talked to Girardi and Eiland and told them how uncomfortable he felt pitching on 10 days rest. You can tell just from the interviews he gave during that week and after Tuesday’s game that he wasn’t happy with the extended rest.
“The right way to handle Joba (in order to meet his innings limit) is to start Mitre or Gauguin on Joba’s starts and only pitch 3 or 4 innings. Then, they should bring in Joba in the 4th (or 5th inning) and let Joba pitch the next 4 innings. That allows Joba to pitch every 5th day and allows him to pitch those innings in a game that allow him to get a decision. I will be criticized, again, for this idea but I guarantee you…its what the Yankees are aimlessly migrating to.”
What does Joba learn by pitching mop-up innings? He needs to learn how to manage a game from the beginning, not clean up after Sergio Mitre’s mess.
Nice try, but the Yankees aren’t bringing Joba Chamberlain out of the bullpen.
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I agree that no ones likes the plan I’ve suggested because it pushes Joba to the bullpen, but it does so in a way that allows him to throw 70-90 pitches per inning and allows him to get decisions when he pitches well. Starting Joba and pulling him after 4 innings will leave a “void” in each of his starts at an important point in those games…the 4th inning thru the 8th inning. Who will pitch those innings?
“Cash, how is Phil going to be at 150 innings? He’s sorely lacking in innings this year as it is….no way do I see the yankees jumping him that many next year.”
innings limits usually go by career highs…hughes has had 146 innings in a year so 150 would not be dangerous….not sure that what they’ll do but its possible
Girardi has to find a couple of those guys in the pen to compliment Hughes. Can’t just go into Oct. with one reliable SU reliever.
A radio caller said, “ESPN makes Jeter god. If he clubbed baby seals, they would rave about his bat speed.”
Sick but funny.
Excuse me, Jerkface, for not remembering every single post you ever typed.
Phil threw those innings (146) in 2006……sorry, that’s just foolish to base his innings limit next year on 146 innings he threw in 2006.
Don’t innings limits go by career high, not the previous year total?
I guess they can use their discretion, but it’s certainly not going to be 30 innings from this year. Really think he is only throwing 120-130 innings next year?
“I feel like I have posted this a million times. Cashman and the yankees have stated their innings limits are HISTORICAL which means that Hughes threw 146 innings in the minors as his career high and his innings limits in the majors will be between 160-180. Plenty enough.”
I think they also count the times a pitcher warms up, but didn’t get into a game in that equation. Hughes still might throw some winter ball for 20-30 innings.
Just judging by how unconcern the Yankees appear to be with getting Hughes some innings work should be a clue that their innings limit is based on more than what a pitcher threw one season to the next.
Angels deal has fallen through
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Anyone hear Kay read Coke’s quote from yesterday
said he wasn’t completely convicted of the pitch he was throwing lol
“Phil threw those innings (146) in 2006……sorry, that’s just foolish to base his innings limit next year on 146 innings he threw in 2006.”
Not surprising you would feel that way since Hughes is your guy, but the Yankees aren’t the only team that bases innings limit on a historical innings high.
“I agree that no ones likes the plan I’ve suggested because it pushes Joba to the bullpen, but it does so in a way that allows him to throw 70-90 pitches per inning and allows him to get decisions when he pitches well. Starting Joba and pulling him after 4 innings will leave a “void” in each of his starts at an important point in those games…the 4th inning thru the 8th inning. Who will pitch those innings?”
Why does Joba have to be Mitre or Gaudin’s caddy and not the other way around?
It’s not about Joba’s personal stats at this point in his career. He has the next 10-12 years to put up his own win totals.
“Things haven’t changed Craw. Posada and Molina are both Yankee players. I was a big fan of Molina catching Moose because it seemed to work better. My desire to see one catch in certain situation over the other means doesn’t mean I am dismissing the other entirely. I was never someone who said Posada shouldn’t be catching at all. I acknowledged the need for his outstanding offense from jump street.”
Except remember one thing, Molina is probably done as a Yankee in about eight weeks or so.
Phil’s innings will be higher than most people think (though it will never be revealed, lol).
He won’t be throwing 200 innings, but if he’s healthy, they’ll give him a bit of leash to run with.
Excuse me, Jerkface, for not remembering every single post you ever typed.
Phil threw those innings (146) in 2006……sorry, that’s just foolish to base his innings limit next year on 146 innings he threw in 2006.
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You love Phil Hughes so much I figure you’d be after every post about him. Injured pitchers aren’t restricted when they didnt throw a lot of innings prior years. The whole point is getting your body used to the work load. Hughes body has thrown 146 innings (not counting winter/fall league) in 2006. It is incredibly reasonable to peg that as the minimum of any type of limit, and the yankees have said they use career highs when evaluating a limit.
Hughes is throwing very high leverage/high stress innings out of the pen right now, so you might even want to count his innings at a 1.5 multiplier
Well Doreen I’m sorry you feel that way.
Yes I do feel both AJ and Joba would work better with Molina. I know that is my biggest sin here right now.
There’s really not much more to say about it. If you see me as very difficult then perhaps I am. We all have character flaws.
I really have no problem with you but respect your right to see me the way you do.
Trisha,
Also remember, Molina won’t be catching in the playoffs unless Posada gets hurt or replaced by a faster baserunner which is just about every Yankee.
It’s pretty common for teams to base IP limits on the career high.
Hughes had 2 lower body injuries (and the rib cage), so it’s not like he had any arm, shoulder, or elbow troubles that they need to look out for.
“Except remember one thing, Molina is probably done as a Yankee in about eight weeks or so.”
If so I hope we manage to make the best 8 weeks ever.
What? The Angels balked when they found out how much Kazmir was set to make? Or did they finally take a look at his game logs?
“Phil’s innings will be higher than most people think (though it will never be revealed, lol).
He won’t be throwing 200 innings, but if he’s healthy, they’ll give him a bit of leash to run with.”
I agree with that just look at the amount of innings Joba might throw this season. He’s already at 130 innings. He’ll be over 160 innings by the end of September and that’s not counting any playoff innings.
Joba threw 118 in 2006
He pitched only about 100 each of the previous 2 years, yet this year, his IP limits is probably around 160.
People all winter speculated that it would be 130 because he has not thrown more than 100 in each of the previous 2 years. But they based it on his career high, even if it was 2 years ago. And what factors in the shoulder injury he had last year.
Same thing they will do with Phil. Base it off the career high.
betsy!
There’s no need to call anyone a jerkface. Shame on you!
m: don’t diss kazmir, he is the pizza man.
I’ll diss who I want, you, you, jerkface!
“I agree that no ones likes the plan I’ve suggested because it pushes Joba to the bullpen, but it does so in a way that allows him to throw 70-90 pitches per inning and allows him to get decisions when he pitches well. Starting Joba and pulling him after 4 innings will leave a “void” in each of his starts at an important point in those games…the 4th inning thru the 8th inning. Who will pitch those innings?”
Why does Joba have to be Mitre or Gaudin’s caddy and not the other way around?
It’s not about Joba’s personal stats at this point in his career. He has the next 10-12 years to put up his own win totals.
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You will find that as the Yankees pursue their current plan with Joba, that there is no incentive for him to pitch well and no incentive to “pound the zone” because he can’t affect the outcome of the game. All he’s doing is aimlessly building inning counts…so why should he really attack the zone.
Pitching Gauguin or Mitre the first three innings of each game allows them to go through an opponents lineup only once. Both of those guys see the opponents batting average increase the second and third time they go through the lineup. With this plan they are assured of only going through the lineup ONE TIME…they will probably be more effective. Joba will come on for the second or third time through the order and will have an opportunity tyo attack the zone because opposing hitters can’t sit and wait for him to build up his pitch counts on him…because the game is winding down.
I know that absolutely no one likes this idea but I guarantee you that its the plan the Yankees are aimlessly migrating to… not because they can figure out why it works but because nothing else has worked and nothing else motivates Joba.
M, lol…….you’re right. I’m so ashamed…..
Jerkface, thanks for explaining….
I’ll diss who I want, you, you, jerkface!
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I thought japanese people were supposed to be polite, or is this the caucasian side?
betsy: No worries, I’m probably as big a hughes fan as you are and am just as worried about his future (hopefully as a starter) but I think he’ll power through anything they put infront of him. He will handle next year much better than Joba handled this year.
The Rally Monkey vetoed the trade? Hm.
Pet peeve- I love cooking but hate when I give the kids a choice of what they want for dinner and they say “I don’t care.” Not sure if that means both choices are good or bad.
Geeze I hope the Yankees get the next three games in because if the idea is to get Joba back to 5 days rest, we’ll need those games. Unless Girardi pitches him in place of Gaudin, if Saturday is rained out.
Sherman tweeted that the trade will “definitely” happen
Tonight’s game looks the iffiest of the 3.
Sunday looks all clear
Tomorrow looks much better than today. Maybe a DH tomorrow. Though we do have 3 mutual off-days with Chicago.
Pet peeve- I love cooking but hate when I give the kids a choice of what they want for dinner and they say “I don’t care.” Not sure if that means both choices are good or bad.
I think it means: “we’re starving git in the kitchen.”
You know what’s a weird word to me? “refreshments” as in “refreshments after the show” which is usually coffee and cake not so “refreshing”
I like that Joba is pitching regularly, the schedule doesn’t allow for too many breaks unless you want both Gaudin and Mitre in the rotation regularly, no one wants that.
Is Jeter engaged?
Kazmir to the Angels worries me.
Jerkface,
Well, I did say I was not-so-nice.
Let’s call it my New York side.
Kazmir has 2.53 career against us.
I agree with Trisha.
Too much unconsidered consensus on here that Joba is a pig-headed and uncoachable.
There are posters who never tire of this slant when stepping to the lecturn, again, “supported” by second-hand BS that no one can verify, naturally.
What’s disappointing and baffling is how eagerly that theory is uncritically embraced by others. Nearly walked out when the kid was assailed by boos in his last home start.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma.
August 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Geeze I hope the Yankees get the next three games in because if the idea is to get Joba back to 5 days rest, we’ll need those games. Unless Girardi pitches him in place of Gaudin, if Saturday is rained out.
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at this point we might want gaudin
Hughes workload is fine, he was pitching a lot after the allstar break because they were a lot of close games. Recently all the games seem to be blowouts. Hughes pitches important innings. You dont want to waste him in blowouts.
pat,
I used to love cooking. I love it even more, now that the little ones are taking over the kitchen. The oldest two want nothing to do with it. Although, the oldest lives away and the next one’s an athlete on the go.
But pizza and calzones used to be a major project, but the kids don’t mind.
If the Angels are no longer involved with Kazmir, that leaves the Yanks next in line ????? Young Master Hughes pitches with such sound mechanics and maximizes his legs so the chances of coming up lame with a shoulderf / elbow concern is ( hopefully ) rather remote……He’ll be fine come next February…..Tricia, your zeal is admirable, and your dedication to the NY Yankees is wel respected here…That being said, it’s game 7, November 6th and AJ Burnett is starting……Do you bench Jorge for Molina ????
Kazmir deal expected to be done shortly
UPDATE, 5:40; Latest word is there will be an announcement of the deal within an hour.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/
Well, I did say I was not-so-nice.
Let’s call it my New York side.
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Thus establishing you as the superior girl poster.
Deal should be completed in the next hour, according to the Rays Beat writer.
I wonder what message the possible Kazmir deal sends to the rest of the Rays’ players? Here they are dumping Kazmir’s contract at a time that the Rays are fighting for a wild card spot. If I were Crawford or Upton, there is no way that I would let the Rays lock me up after this…I’d go out on the free agent market when my time comes and shop myself for top dollar.
Agree, JFK.
Pretty soon, we’ll probably start playing a bunch of close games in a row again and Hughes will get his work in.
In the postseason, he’ll be pitching virtually every day anyway.
The biggest problem is finding a couple of other guys in the pen to step up to compliment Hughes. Bruney, Coke, Ace, Robertson, someone needs to step up.
Pretty soon, we’ll probably start playing a bunch of close games in a row again and Hughes will get his work in.
In the postseason, he’ll be pitching virtually every day anyway.
The biggest problem is finding a couple of other guys in the pen to step up to compliment Hughes. Bruney, Coke, Ace, Robertson, someone needs to step up.
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Another problem the Yankees face (although it isn’t until next year) is who will be the 8th inning guy if they move Hughes to the starting rotation. I don’t think they have confidence in anyone else other than Hughes right now. It sounds like they will have to make a major deal or sign someone like Jose Valverde in the offseason.
Yeah, I know that its not an urgent issue but its going to be very interesting to see how they approach the “bridge to Mariano” in the offeason.
Another problem they have is that next year is Mariano’s last…who will fill that role?
Jerkface, I’m really looking forward to seeing Phil in a starting role next year……..that’s going to be the best part of the year for me.
Another problem they have is that next year is Mariano’s last…who will fill that role?
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joba
Even when he struggles like Joba is now?
Cokey has given up 5 HRs to lefties so far!!
Rain is falling pretty steady at PNC Field, and tonight’s game has been rained out. It will be made up as part of a doubleheader tomorrow at 5:35.I assume it will be Josh Towers and Jason Hirsh pitching for the Yankees, but the team is doing Kangaroo Court, so I haven’t been able to get in the clubhouse to ask.Might have some more notes after I get in there.
For some reason can’t post the link, it is from SWB blog.
Seems like the court went down to AAA.
The Dallas scoreboard debacle is sad. NFL/Cowboys/Designers all messed up bigtime. These are smart people who failed because they failed to commicate/were too proud/too lazy to do some tests.
Similar (but not as bad) issues with the New parks in NY.
They SHOULD be better than this. Sad commentary. You get paid tio be the best at something and you make a stupid mistake. hubris.
LOL I can’t believe this discussion is still ongoing………
AJ has had a very fine year and he has pitched very well to Jorge in many starts. Have they had their iffy moments? Yes they have, but so have other pitchers and catchers. It’s much ado about nothing – holy cow.
go out & sign or trade for a solid number 2 or 3 pitcher,resign pettitte,joba in the pen
I wonder if Scott is now damaged goods? He hasn’t been that great and has been injured a fair amount. Do the Rays know something we don’t?
Of more concern should be the fact that the Yankees are going to plow right ahead and play Jorge instead of DL’ing him……….the injury is going to take 10-14 days to heal and they are going to play him anyway? I don’t get it.
The only good pitcher on the FA market is John Lackey, he isin’t worth it.
You could take a gamble on Brett Myers, but he is another AJ– all the talent in the world but a headcase.
Rich Harden maybe?
Slim pickings next year….
Uncle,
Didn’t they better the NFL specs by 5 feet?
go out & sign or trade for a solid number 2 or 3 pitcher,resign pettitte,joba in the pen
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So they Yankees have invested 2 years on stretching Joba out and will invest another year, next year, for a total of 3 years…and then will make Joba a closer??? That doesn’t make any sense.
I’m very worried about the bullpen outside of Hughes/MO.
Cokey is a HR machine and is inconsistent.
Bruney has fallen off a cliff
Ace hasn’t been reliable since that start in MIN
Robertson has been inconstant
Gaudin hasn’t done much as a long man. Throws 25 pitches an inning and walks the ballpark.
Marte could be a nice piece, potentially.
But we have to get this pen figured out. Can’t assume the starters will go 7-8 every night down the stretch and in the playoffs. Especially in Joba games.
how’s th weather in the BX? Can we get an update about that?
Putting joba back in the pen is a bad idea. Why do people always bring it up? It’s not going to happen so let’s move on.
“Of more concern should be the fact that the Yankees are going to plow right ahead and play Jorge instead of DL’ing him……….the injury is going to take 10-14 days to heal and they are going to play him anyway? I don’t get it.”
He’s got a bruised joint on the ring finger of his left hand.
He can hit and throw fine. It just hurts a lot if & when the ball hits the wrong part of his glove.
ah man what’s the difference between joba being a half astarter at this point and being in the pen. they need to stop messing around with this guy. he lost his mojo.
Of more concern should be the fact that the Yankees are going to plow right ahead and play Jorge instead of DL’ing him……….the injury is going to take 10-14 days to heal and they are going to play him anyway? I don’t get it.
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The lineup at the top of the page says that Milina is catching…not Jorge. Rosters expand on September 1st…then they can bring up Cervelli, so there is no need to DL Jorge. Just let Molina catch till Jorge is ready and if he tires they can use Cervelli to spell him after September 1st.
No need to DL Jorge when the rosters expand in 4 days
Plus he could still probably DH
Russel
August 28th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Putting joba back in the pen is a bad idea. Why do people always bring it up? It’s not going to happen so let’s move on.
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i want joba to be a great starter but he will end up in the pen if he does not get better.
we might give him another year at best
1. Girardi has said that the injury to Posada’s ring finger does NOT affect his batting.
2. The affected finger is on his glove hand.
3. It’s only an issue if it gets whacked again, because it hurts.
4. The Yankees have not won anything yet. When they clinch, there will be time to rest the regulars. Until then, we have to remember that regulars become regulars for a reason.
5. I may be wrong, but I think the magic number to clinch the division is 30. With any luck, that becomes 29 or 28 later tonight.
sweeny saying tarp down & raining
Funny how people on this blog talk about next years rotation and not the game this evening in the middle of a pennant race with our ace on the mound….any updates on the weather? man oh man i use to love this blog i got a lot of good info…now its all about guessing lineups and joba in the pen next year and trades and all that garbage…talk about the task at hand…game on tonight?
Tarp down and raining?
Matt
you lost your credibility when you guaranteed a rs win then dissappered
Tarp off according to Sterling
Just call the game
I don’t want AJ or Phil getting hurt on the wet grass….
m
August 28th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
“Uncle,
Didn’t they better the NFL specs by 5 feet?”
Exactly. Rule is 85 feet they made it 90 feet thats ONLY 30 Yards! Tantron Willoughby could punt 30 yards up (ok I kid)
They blindly followed a faulty guidline without independent thought. So now they can blame the NFL.
Lazy. Much fault to go around.
They it would cost 40 mill to fix!
BryanHoch The Yankee Stadium grounds crew is taking the tarp off the field. Looks like we will have baseball here tonight. #yankees vs. #whitesox
The map on weather.com doesnt look too promising at the moment. In fact, I see a lot of green in the forecast for a while. I guess it all depends on if they want to play through it tonight or not.
The SI Yankees are in town and had wanted to check them out, but the weather here is horrible and I couldn’t see it worth getting drenched. Has anyone here seen any NY Penn baseball this year?
Also, im watching YES now and i think this is the game where Castillo drops the ball. Anyone else watching? If it is the game im thinking of, the Yanks sure like to overplay it. Boy oh boy.
Bru, did you every think Matt was a popular name and there is probably more than one matt in this world that is a yankees fan? I am not that Matt that you guys got in a fight with all those times, i am not a big poster on this blog but i read every single article and comment on this board but i am not that guy
Matt
im glad to hear the blog that you are commenting on now stinks because you said so.
you still can get all the info you will ever need instantly
christina, clouds are dark but no rain here in Newark
I have been preparing for the worst, for fear of unexpected disapointments imminent: Better not get my hopes up, for there is none.
Once again this year, like all those in the past, pitching is Yankees’ Achilles Heel. No starters (except CC, who always struggles in October), and only two relievers.
Really, there is no hope in October — that is, even if we could make it there.
- David D.
The Yankees somehow made a game that we won 9-1 a “classic”
(the game CC started against the Mets)
What was so special about that game? Their standards for selecting classics has gone down tremendously.
Matt
sorry on my first comment then if thats your real name
The weather this entire weekend, except maybe Sunday is pretty bad… as long as the rain is somewhat moderate, they’ll just play through it.
Just incase though… make sure we have a lead after 5. Nothing worse than losing a rain shortened game.
guys, Joe G just said Posada feels much better and they will try to put him in the lineup tommorow
I’ve come up with a scenario whereby YES would show a Yankee Classic LOSS.
They aren’t going to call this game.
Do you want to come to work on your next day off or work a double tomorrow or Sunday?
The next don’t either, especially when they need those days off. That’s why they are going to wait these games out this weekend.
A Yankee Classic that they lose?? hahah what situation would that be?
These players can play in a little rain.
Yeah, it’s going to be wet and miserable outside, but it’s going to be playable.
These players would rather play in the rain tonight than give up a valuable off-day in late September during the stretch run.
Christina- Pics of my visit to the Louisville Slugger Museum
August 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
A Yankee Classic that they lose?? hahah what situation would that be?
gotta run.
Why don’t you guys mull it over.
I think it is a no brainer.
Go YAnks!
Guys: I reported the tarp coming off at 6:30 p.m. Does anybody actually read the updates or am I wasting time? Let me know.
Giuseppe Franco
they will call it if it gets bad enough.
Matt
August 28th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Bru, did you every think Matt was a popular name and there is probably more than one matt in this world that is a yankees fan? I am not that Matt that you guys got in a fight with all those times, i am not a big poster on this blog but i read every single article and comment on this board but i am not that guy
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If I may, I’d suggest you add a letter or something to keep from getting confused.
This is a friendly suggestion.
no need to get snooty….snotty
Why take the tarp off? Looking at the radar there’s a ton of rain coming.
Waldman reporting Kazmir deal has fallen through.
If I may, I’d suggest you add a letter or something to keep from getting confused.
This is a friendly suggestion.
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I second that, for the other Matt’s (not the essay length, only posts when the Yankees are losing Matt) sake.
You really don’t want to be accidently confused with him, if you can at all help it, lol.
bru August 28th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Giuseppe Franco
they will call it if it gets bad enough.
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It would have to be hurricane-like.
The Yanks don’t want anymore rain outs.
These next two games are also day games. They will wait them out all day if that’s what it takes.
“Why take the tarp off? Looking at the radar there’s a ton of rain coming.”
Looks like they are going to try and play through it, like that first Boston game at the stadium that Hughes started.
It was a monsoon outside and they still played it.
Tarp on
Tarp off
Tarp on
Tarp off
Sorry Pete When I posted that I didn’t see your update.
Very wary of this series… White Sox are a very good team, they have a ton of talent, a big-time offense, and we see their best pitcher tonight, a rookie tomorrow, and Garcia on Sunday. They also took 3 from us a few weeks ago.
Very dangerous series… hope we can take 2\3
accu weather has lots of yellow and a bit of red on the radar–heading toward nyc.
“Serena Williams is here to throw out the first pitch.”
that’s got to be embarrassing for johnny damon if her arm is better than his.
Yep, the White Sox are so dangerous they’re at .500 and have been for virtually the entire season.
And they’re 10-13 over their last 23 games.
OMG!!!! FEAR THE WHITE SOX!!!!!!
******BREAKING NEWS********
EXCLUSIVE
Nick in SF in Larkspur is reporting that Pete Abe sometimes posts updates way up on the top of the page that people can overlook when they are way down here at the bottom of the page.
DEVELOPING STORY
MUST CREDIT NICK IN SF IN LARKSPUR
*******BREAKING NEWS*********
Yanks may be catching a break tonight without Dye and Rios in the lineup, and tomorrow’s Chicago will depend on Buehrle. If he’s knocked out early, Carassco will relieve and Contreras goes tomorrow. That’s from Guillen a few minutes ago.
Alex Rodriguez and Jerry Hairston Jr. stop by a Bronx lot to play stickball with the kids.
http://tinyurl.com/l9ut99
Let’s go Yankees
Guillen put out this info less than 30 minutes ago. Who does he think he is, lying to the media?
Cross the fingers no one gets hurt.
pat thanks, that was really cool of the two of them to go out there.
How cool for that kid, he gets to go back to school next week and say he pitched to Alex!!
Thanks for the link Pat! That was cute, but I feel like if Alex was a regular dude walking around the Bronx in that outfit he would totally get beat up
Good start CC!
Just one question what was up with the Reds hat?
I would guess they must get this game in because tomorrow should be a washout
CC in cy young talk yet
CC in cy young talk yet
Seriously, sometimes I can’t believe my eyes when watching this guy
Nice way to start. Woo Hoo Derek.
Jetes. Oh yeah!
“Just one question what was up with the Reds hat?”
jennifer,
Probably a Bronx little league team…or maybe he borrowed it from Hairston??
Captain my Captain
Anyone else love how fast Mark Buehrle works? The works off the mound really fast and gets hammered by the Yanks. It’s the best of both worlds.
josh beckeet is only hittin 93.. 94 on the gun.. when he’s right he’s hits 96 .. 97
Jesus Christ Jeter. There are just no words.
Poets would lose their focus.
bummer
I thought it was a Bears hat. I could be wrong
Damn wind!
I thought this place was a bandbox.
Yes nothing like a pitcher who works fast and throws strikes…the bizarro joba
damon + matsui making it VERY HARD on cashman…
you can put it on the board….yes!
JRod
Ooops yeah you are right.
matsui is having a great year….you can’t bring him back though…you need to keep the dh spot free…
Hi everyone, i read the blog a lot but i rarely post. ive noticed how popular the GTLU game has been and i thought id suggest another one. the HR/RBI game. when everyones guessing the lineup they would also guess who is going to hit the first HR and who will get the first RBI for the Yankees that game. Today it would be jeter for both. but you can mix players like guess Tex for HR and Jeter for RBI.
It is a little tricker because you would have to wait for the lineup to be posted, or not and if you choose someone not in the lineup then you definitely lose. also, its harder to keep track of so definitely more work for whoever is organizing.
anyways, just thought id bring up the idea.
Go Yankees!
“damon + matsui making it VERY HARD on cashman…”
It might come down to how we do in the playoffs. If we make it all the way, Matsui has his ring as a Yankee and then it’s easier to let him ride off into the sunset. I think it will be hard either way for Damon. Even if we win, you probably want him to come back. I’d bring both of them back if I were making the decisions. If it ain’t broke, why fix it?
UGH, thanks to stupid freaking My9.. I am stuck with the freaking “good guys!”
@#@%$@%$$^%#&%#^$! *snarls*
Lets go Yankees!
i still think you need dh open to be shared by posada, damon, arod, etc….matsui gives you no flexibility….use the money to get a really good fielding outfield..outfield defense this year is a weakness
watching arod + hairston play stickball with the kids is pretty cool. the yanks this year have done alot for the community and it’s no coincidence that it’s good karma for the squad.
just curious, how much was it for MLB.TV premium for the entire season?
melky has to scream out instead of waiving his hand in that situation…
“UGH, thanks to stupid freaking My9.. I am stuck with the freaking “good guys!””
They are close to unbearable.
Hawk Harrelson, the homerest of all homers
Shamelessly rooting for a ball to stay fair. SO objective.
Not even one inning and I’m wanting to throw a shoe at my TV, lol.
Bad call by the ump there, but it’s in our favor so it’s all good.
It sometimes isn’t fun to be a Yankee fan in Boston, and I can’t stand the local media. But for two days every year they do a very cool thing…the Jimmy fund telethon to raise money for Dana Farber, the Jimmy Fund and cancer research. The money is used to fight cancer in kids – doesn’t get better than that. Everyone on this blog should call 877-738-1234, or go to weei.com, and make a donation. George Steinbrenner used to call in and donate $10,000 every year, when his health was better. I don’t know if his boys have kept the tradition. For today only lets lay aside the rivalry, and support this most worthy cause. Do it now.
i am sorry who are the “good guys”
i am sorry who are the “good guys”
DJ AM was found dead
Cops tell TMZ that DJ AM — also known as Adam Goldstein — was found dead this morning in New York City
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The NYPD tells us he was found in his apartment at around 7 AM.
Story developing…
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/28/.....z0PWTU9lGF
Laura August 28th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Bad call by the ump there, but it’s in our favor so it’s all good.
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with this rain, anything close is going to get called…
“Shamelessly rooting for a ball to stay fair. SO objective.”
That is what makes them horrible announcers. It’s like watching a fan broadcast the game. I can sit at home and do that.
many years ago the hawk ken harrelson was a yankee annoucer…anyone remember..i do
Enough Molina over Posada Talk August 28th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
you can put it on the board….yes!
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That’s a good one. I love how silent Hawk was watching the ball go over the fence.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus August 28th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
DJ AM was found dead
Cops tell TMZ that DJ AM — also known as Adam Goldstein — was found dead this morning in New York City
.
The NYPD tells us he was found in his apartment at around 7 AM.
Story developing…
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/28/…..z0PWTU9lGF
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on the day final destination comes out in the theaters. you can’t escape death…jeez…
“Cops tell TMZ that DJ AM — also known as Adam Goldstein — was found dead this morning in New York City”
Isn’t this the guy that survived a plane crash recently? Proof that his number was meant to be up.
I missed the first inning, Laura – but I am dreading hearing my first “he gone”.
harrleson is a homer…but is there a worse announcer then michael kay??
“many years ago the hawk ken harrelson was a yankee annoucer…anyone remember..i do”
Thank God, that is something my mind has blocked out.
CC dealing
Oh no…. Kay with the glomen again.
CC!
CC is the man..imagine if he had an outfield that could catch the ball
“Heee-Gone”
They’re shameless “as long as they’re calling that for both sides”.
Its gonna be a longggg game, lol.
“harrleson is a homer…but is there a worse announcer then michael kay??”
Yes, Harrelson. I’d take Kay over Hawk everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. I’d even listen to the BOS announcers before I’d listen to this fool.
Great job by CC picking up his outfielders!! 8)
Is this a repeat?
The 1st base umpire isn’t giving these guys any leeway on those checked swings, is he?
I wonder if it has anything to do with the rain…trying to speed the game up? Not that I’m complaining right now when it helps out CC.
I think this CC fellow is pretty darn good.
According to hisotrical records, these are the good guys:
http://www.musicradio77.com/wmca/history.html
Harrelson is far worse than Michael K.
And its not even close, in my opinion.
He just said “One nothing bad guys”. Unreal.
why are you guys watching the white sox telecast..i dont get it do you not get my9 where you are..
i guess no remembers or was born when Ken Harrleson was a yankee annoucer in the 80s…
So hokey its embarrassing. I might find MK annoying at times, but I’d find him absolutely cringeworthy if he was as shamelessly hokey and unobjective as these guys are.
okay harrleson is worse..I agree..but do you guys like Michael Kay? How about Leiter?
No we don’t get My9. Laura is in Chicago and I’m in Minnesota.
extra innings
do you get YES there? I would guess you do
I think he was Nicole Richie’s boyfriend for a long time.
Thank the lord I will be getting DirecTV back for Extra Innings. (Verizon said they would pay for it so I will have both providers!) My most despised outside broadcasters are from Chicago, with Harrelson being the ringleader!
that was a strike???
I don’t *love* MK, but being somewhat objective and professional while you’re announcing gives him brownie points with me, lol.
When I’m stuck with the away announcers for a while, especially if they’re of the Harrelson variety, then I find that I actually miss him, sadly, lol.
is there a worse hitter than molina…
is there a worse hitter than molina…
why is he swinging 3-0
Angel – how about “take some bench!”
oh 3-1 how was that a strike?
“okay harrleson is worse..I agree..but do you guys like Michael Kay? How about Leiter?”
I can take or leave Kay. My only real complaint with Kay is how he exaggerates how far a ball is hit to the OF. He does that stupid “That ball is hit DEEP to RF”; meanwhile, Swisher is already camped under it and the ball isn’t anywhere near the warning track. Leiter is okay. My fave is probably Singleton.
I find it funny that michael kay is asking Leiter about how Burehle works fast..considering Leiter is the slowest worker ever for a pitcher..he took forever to pitch
You didn’t know that getting both the home and away of each game is exclusive to DirecTV only?
I dont have FIOS or DirecTV and I knew that, lol.
I will say for a third time..I remember when Harrelson was a yankee annoucer…saying “put it on the board” for yankees like Steve Balboni and Ken Phelps..FOr example..balboni hits one deep to left…you can put it on the board….yes
“You didn’t know that getting both the home and away of each game is exclusive to DirecTV only? ”
MLB Extra Innings does it sometimes, but only when they have channels available. If there was a slew of day games, the games at night tend to have both broadcasts.
Angel, while I thought it, the fact that Verizon told me that I would be getting it made me think they knew what they were talking about! Sadly I didn’t figure out the real deal until after the switchover was made.
MLB.tv won’t give you home and away unless you upgrade to the premium package. But, ever since the Yankees entered into that cable deal earlier in the summer, I’ve been able to watch the Yankees on YES for pretty much every game.
It has been a lifesaver, especially for Chicago games.
UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: Hey, look, Melky doesn’t communicate and take charge of a ball. That is at least the third time that has happened this year.
If Brett Gardner hits once he comes back, he could become the postseason starter. Melky is melting down just like he did last season.
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Please, lets remember Gardner WAS the starter, then he wasn’t.
I have extra innings from Direct TV in central america and I have the Chicago homers
well I did until plugged gameday audio into the tv and put the Hawk on mute
the white sox announcers are the worst in baseball.
they are such homers they might as well be wearing skirts and waiving pom poms.
worse thaneven NESPN.
Even worse is that Verizon broadcasts the MLB games only in hi def. Well two of the televisions in my house are not hi def (in the spare rooms) so it means that I would never have been able to watch any of the games in either of those rooms. DirecTV is cool enough to offer both standard and hi def for all of its games – as long as the team is broadcasting the game.
YES is doing a yankeeography on George Steinbrenner.. I wonder how fair and balanced it will be..will it not only highlight his great achievements but his low lights as well??/
“Hee-Gone”
Ohh I see. That’s too bad.
i got
sabathia
lincecum
jimenez
goin in my fantasy team & i have howard who just homered but a lot of delays.
making me nervous
tex’s friend I agree..who will be the regular center fielder in the post season should be interesting..
“they are such homers they might as well be wearing skirts and waiving pom poms.
worse thaneven NESPN.”
Amazingly, it’s not even close. The BOS guys come off as professional compared to those nimrods in Chicago.
CC saw Burnett K 12 in 6 innings last night, and is thinking, “I can do that!”
Halfway there, right on pace with 6 in 3.
it seems as though more people are watching this game on the chicago feed then the yankees…
I’d like some runs here, please.
I seem to get H&A choices for the West Coast games. I did last trip, which was nice.
I love hi-def, nothing beats it for baseball games and action movies – but yeah its a pain when you haven’t converted every TV in your house to it.
uh, Verizon broadcasts in standard definition too. wrong again, trisha.
“it seems as though more people are watching this game on the chicago feed then the yankees…”
That’s only because a lot of the NY regulars aren’t posting right now.
hey rob let’s hope CC does not decide to walk two batters with two outs then give up a 3 run homer..
Yeah, you can imagine my horror when I turned on the Rangers – Yanks game the other night and got the Texas broadcast!
The great news is that Verizon is going to pick up the tab for DirecTV. I really hated the thought of parting with FIOS. (Picture is unbelievable.) And on the days they broadcast the YES network – they did yesterday – I’ll definitely use Verizon.
I love it when I ask for runs and they magically appear.
Absolutely. I hate to admit it, but I actually PREFER NESN’s Remy etc over the Angels, White Sox, Texas and a few others.
I can’t believe I just admitted to that, lol.
You can put it on the board….YES
Wooo Damon. Yankee stadium bomb!
wow the mute button is effing close
Erica, give your man a kiss.
“That is a Yankee Stadium homerun.” Could he be more of a dipstick?
Yeahhh Johnny. Damon in 2010
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD!
does hawk say put it on the board when the yanks hit homers?
I don’t really remember Hawk. I started watching 86-87. And mostly on the radio.
Gardner did struggle early on, but he started playing a lot better later. Remember, his average was about the same as Melky’s when he got hurt.
Everything I’ve heard about Gardner is that he has always taken time to adjust when he’s gone up a level. Was the improvement this year just due to his not playing every day, or was it because he started to adjust? Hopefully it’s the latter. I like Melky, but he has shown he can’t handle playing every day for a full season.
Tex maine! Come on Alex!
Another thing that bothers me about these jerks in the booth for Chicago. They keep calling new YS a bandbox. Meanwhile, the Cell is notorious for being easy to hit HRs in.
Watching tex run always makes me giggle. He makes great faces
“Absolutely. I hate to admit it, but I actually PREFER NESN’s Remy etc over the Angels, White Sox, Texas and a few others.
I can’t believe I just admitted to that, lol.”
I think Remy is one of the best broadcasters in the business.
3-0 JAYS!!!!!!!
“That is a Yankee Stadium homerun.” Could he be more of a dipstick?
really..he did not say that did he?
“That is a Yankee Stadium homerun.” Could he be more of a dipstick?
really..he did not say that did he?
I’m just surprised DirecTV didn’t try to get you to stay with them when you cancelled by touting that they’re the only ones who have that available. Its certainly an excellent selling point. If I could have satellite, and didn’t like my cable providers deal – it would sell me on it.
“I can’t believe I just admitted to that, lol.”
I can’t believe you did either.
Enough Molina over Posada Talk – Did you post here earlier under another handle?
3 run bomb scutaro
“really..he did not say that did he?”
He said it twice.
“uh, Verizon broadcasts in standard definition too. wrong again, trisha.”
Not the baseball games. But thanks Keith
If i remember correctly hawk did the yanks in 86-87…I could be wrong about the years..but he did annouce the yanks on TV….and he did say put it on the board even back then.
trisha
you cant watch the games if you dont have hd tvs ??
dont sound right
Beckett 50+ pitches not even through the second inning.
Aaron hill sorry lol
“3 run bomb scutaro”
Actually, it was Hill.
i miss living in NJ. Now im stuck on Extra Innings to whoever they feel like putting on. ie WHITE SOX ‘announcers’
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
BECKETT JUST GAVE UP A 3-RUN HOMER!
I will give Joba Chamberlain a shiny quarter if he promises to never use the phrase “at the end of the day” ever again. Including all references to nighttime.
Yes he can. Wait until well *if* Buehrle stikes someone out. You never knew two harmless words “he” and “gone” could be so obnoxious, lol.
no miggs…I had the same handle. I have changed it a couple of times..the last few weeks.
Hey, Harrelson was right. It is a Yankee Stadium home run…because it was hit at Yankee Stadium. DUH!
i have to admit. I like Jerry Remy..is that wrong..he is a funny guy
they need to get through 5 before the rain comes. HURRY!
Beckham may end up the AL Rookie of the Year.
two run single would be nice here..
This is the third crap outing in a row for Beckett.
i actually dont mind jerry remy either.
No comment.
3 ugly at bats in a row after 2 on and nothing out
Misery loves company, Tex’s friend.
You have plenty of company here who are subjected to the same White Sox misery you are, lol.
Angel, well they tried to talk me into staying but I told them it was a matter of economics (it was. Verizon offered me a much better deal than I was getting with DirecTV and Cox – I had both) and they bundled. So I just held my ground about economics and they didn’t pursue it. They didn’t know that Extra Innings was a selling point with me!
But here’s the beauty, at least from Verizon’s standpoint I would think. When I had DTV I had to purchase the sportspak in order to get YES. I had to have their Premier Choice (I think that’s the name) package to get the sportspak! I am not a movie watcher so I forewent that. This time around since I can get YES through Verizon, all I have to have is their basic programming to get Extra Innings. So Verizon is only having to pick up a $35/month tab instead of $90/month.
i take it laura does NOT like remy
“This is the third crap outing in a row for Beckett.”
He’s giving up a lot of bombs lately. I think he’s given up 9 HRs in his last 3 starts.
Beckett giving up alot of bombs lately.
Kind of looks like yesterday’s game. Base runners every inning but let the pitcher off the hook.
“i take it laura does NOT like remy”
Actually, I don’t mind Remy.
i dont say this much, but i really think cano needs the smackdown from girardi again.
Just got in. Nice score in Boston!
Well at least FIOS did something to keep you happy. Thats worth something.
My “no comment” post was referring to my thoughts on Cano’s at bat.
Enough Molina over Posada Talk August 28th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
i have to admit. I like Jerry Remy..is that wrong..he is a funny guy
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Rem-Dawg is one of the good ones.
bru and keith I’m three days new to Verizon so you can imagine I’m still trying to figure out their channel lineup! Their ExtraInnings package is clustered in a group of channels around 1441. The only game listed for the Yankees is the one I’m watching now, and it’s in hidef. If there is another cluster somewhere else all in standard, I just haven’t found it yet. It’s not listed on the folder they gave me either. But maybe it does exist somewhere. It is going to take me a while to figure out all the new channels. I hate that part of it.
I don’t remember Hawk broadcasting Yankee games. In those days I would watch the games with my dad and he always muted the TV sound and would listen to the radio play by play. I never understood why he used to do that. Now I do.
CC have 7 K’s and isn’t worth even ONE obnoxious “he gone” lol
If you had the chance to listen to all the announcers in MLB, you would be very happy to have Michael Kay…..I grew up with Mel Allen, Red Barber & Scooter….When I moved to So Cal, it was the great the great Vince Scully, and Dick Enberg & Don Drysdale for the Angels……Trust me, it’s easy to rag on Kay, Sterling & Suzie but you don’t know how good you have it…….
Where the hell was THAT pitch?
they are into Joba the “short starter.”
After Sept. 1, that shouldn’t be a problem.
I love how even the opponent’s announcers have an opinion on Joba’s situation. Like someone cares what they think.
Angel, seriously it’s worth a lot because there’s no way I can explain the quality of this picture. It’s like you’re watching with 3-D glasses. And I thought DirecTV’s picture was great!
They did play hardball with me at first and I was on the verge of cancelling the service – but I was sincere about it I wasn’t trying to play games with them. I never would have changed if I knew I would be treated to the Hawk! When she saw I was serious she said they didn’t want to lose me as a customer and would see what they could do. I was relieved, believe me.
CC and Buerhle at the same pitch count (56).
Angel, I suppose the Matsui strike out was annoying for you in a couple of ways, wasn’t it?
CC just fell behind pace. Just 1 K that inning. He sucks.
when i got rid of dish & got u-verse the dish people begged me to stay.
offered a month free & offered to take 10 bucks a month off my bill
i said i already have u-verse hooked up & i am not paying for both.
they asked me why i was cancelling & i said i pay 169 a month now & u-verse costs me 145,i get faster internet,yes & i dont pay for toll calls plus i get caller id back.
they got mad & said we are sending a box out so you can return the dvrs & remotes & if anything is damaged we will charge the credit card on file.
i said i dont have a credit card on file
Work on getting a few more runs now yanks
“really..he did not say that did he?”
He did. I have not heard all broadcasters from every team but Harrelson makes me sick to the point of not wanting to listen. He refers to Chicago as the good guys, the opposition as the bad guys, and when someone from “the bad guys” makes an out, he loves to say, “okay (particular bad guy) take some bench.”
He is truly sickening. And not attractive.
Very true, Pat M. I might find a few things that MK does a little annoying, but I find that I do miss him when I’m stuck with the horrible away announcers for a few days. I’d give anything to hear him tonight, for sure.
I find Vin Scully’s voice really grating.
“bad Guys”?
where is r d m has he been kicked of this site
I am a little freaked out that DJ AM actually threw the first pitch at citifield last week
18 inning shutout I said wow
I guesss CC still isn’t an Ace for some of you here. He’ll win 19-20 games and have a chance at the Cy Young with Beckett faltering.
another base hit for the bad guy.
Rebecca-
Who’s DJ AM?
oddly enough, gardner and pete abe call melky the bad guy too.
you know I like the short-starting idea, I think if you tell Joba, “Hey, you are only throwing 4 innings today” He will be able to let lose. It will be a lot of pressure off him mentally and physically he can let it fly a bit. Maybe his stuff starts looking a bit more like it used to coming out of the pen.
Buerhle looks so hittable out there it’s a matter of time before they knock him out.
Make a donation to the Jimmy Fund 877-738-1234, or at weei.com. Today is the Jimmy Fund telethon put on by Red Sox station WEEI in Boston. They are tools, but awesome these two days for this great cause.
“i said i dont have a credit card on file”
Haha Bru, nice response there!!
Thats just one reason why I won’t go satellite (apart from the fact I don’t have a place I can put my dish facing south, due to big trees. I don’t want DSL internet. I love my (just increased) cable internet speed.
agree about joba and with the expaded rosters, the pen won’t be taxed.
the only bad thing is i lost a bunch of movie channels wich stinks but i still have some
i also get more total channels
Hi Rebecca! Nice to see you! Have you been in graduate school thesis hell?
“take our time you have plenty of em”?
really?
can the yes guys reach other and beat up these a$Sclowns?!?
Molina dp
Molina should just bunt
should molina have bunted in that spot…
Beckett just walked his fifth batter and they’re only in the middle of the 3rd.
i was at citi field i saw that DJ guy throw out the first pitch..he is dead?
No SJ. No CB. Thread? No good.
S.A.–Serenity Now August 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Molina dp
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And it didn’t even look like he tried to beat it; jogging up the line the whole way, from what I could see.
Holy cow.
Beckett at 78 pitches and still in the 3rd!
Whoa! Bucket is at 75 pitches through 2.2 IP.
molina was running hard thats how he runs…
Rebecca
His last tweet was “New york, new york, big city of dreams. But everything in new york, aint what it seems.”
Judging from his stats, the change of scenery has not helped Rios.
Enough Molina over Posada Talk- I should have asked “what was the handle you used to post under?”
Sorry for the confusion.
Thing is, if the S*x make the play offs, you have to think that Buckett will put it together. Unfortunately. We can always hope he stinks up the joint then, too, but he probably won’t.
So I’ll just keep cheering for them to fall behind in the Wild Card race, just in case.
Rob B August 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
S.A.–Serenity Now August 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Molina dp
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And it didn’t even look like he tried to beat it; jogging up the line the whole way, from what I could see.
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That’s how fast Jose runs.
Saw this on RAB: And they’re 13-14 with Molina catching. This on a team that’s more than 30 games over .500.
Beckett is averaging 26 pitches an inning. And TOR isn’t even that good.
my past few handles:
Enough Tiant
Enough Rice
Enough Morgan
and Enough Molina over posada talk..
notice a trend…
“That’s how fast Jose runs.
”
So, you’re saying I expect too much out of him?
CC has really put himself in a hole, now. I will accept no less that 4 strike outs from him next inning.
I mean, c’mon, he can’t let AJ beat him! He could strike out 15 in 8, but AJ will still be saying, “yeah, but I got 12 in 6. That’s 2 per inning, slacker!”
MIN put in a waiver claim on Rich Harden. I’m 100% sure that the Cubs will pull him back.
Ahhhhhh.
I get it. I must be a little slow tonight.
Enough Molina over Posada Talk
August 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
harrleson is a homer…but is there a worse announcer then michael kay??
Yup there is! Many of them and Hawk is one of them!
yeah I would think they would keep harden…..is a free agent at the end of year?
Molina now sub-Mendoza with one XBH since returning from the DL and with the same number of GIDPs as RBIs (3 each in 46 ABs in July/August).
I appreciate Jose’s defense but, overall, prefer Cervelli, who is, among other things, a good bunter.
ALEXI!!!!!
“yeah I would think they would keep harden…..is a free agent at the end of year?”
Not sure, but if the Cubs still think that they are in the race, they need Harden for sure.
I;m sorry I just find Michael Kay annoying…Is Joe Morgan worse than Harrleson..Stumped you on that one didn’t I?
Nice Alex. I think he’s going to get hot again soon.
We need to plate some of these guys.
not a good ab by matsui….
“So I’ll just keep cheering for them to fall behind in the Wild Card race, just in case.”
Rob B
My dream season is to first beat the Angels, then the Sox and finaly for the coup de grace, Beat Mr. Torre.
I want the Yankees to play and beat those three teams this post season.
0-5 runners in scoring position….1-6 would be nice here
“I;m sorry I just find Michael Kay annoying…Is Joe Morgan worse than Harrleson..Stumped you on that one didn’t I?”
Not even a hard question. Morgan. That tells you how bad I think Hawk is.
Per Cot’s Baseball Contracts:
Rich Harden rhp
4 years/$9M (2005-08), plus 2009 club option
So, yes, free agent after this year.
I think Beckett is falling apart because he is pitching a large amount of innings that he isn’t used to doing. Look at Beckett’s career, he has never really been a work horse like a Sabathia, Halladay, or Verlander.
Posada DH tomorrow? Matsui may be in need of a day.
Angel
i never had cable internet until now.
i got dsl around 1996.
never any problems & i cant notice a difference now.
i stayed with at&t,my phone company but before dish was sepperate even though i payed one bill to at&t
i miss all my movie channels bad.
dont watch as much tv now.
but i get yankee games.
right now they are offering a free 1 month upgrade to the max
I still Love Joe Torre….would be nice to beat hiim or anyone in the world series though…
Sometimes I want more Tiant.
“Posada DH tomorrow? Matsui may be in need of a day.”
The weather forecast looks dreadful for tomorrow so Matsui will get that day.
i dont know Morgan…Morgan…I can’t take him. Of course I am not listening to hawk right now
i dont know Morgan…Morgan…I can’t take him. Of course I am not listening to hawk right now
Speaking of Morgan:
The last few times the Yankees have been on the Extreme Sports Poker Network, I haven’t heard them say anything about Morgan being an HOF. Have they stopped saying that every 5 seconds, or am I just somehow mentally tuning it out?
So if they get rained out tomorrw, I bet you they just skip Mitre. Woohoo!
Yes Luis Tiant barely speaking english for 2 consecutive innings during Yankees Red sox..it does not get better than that
the only way i can tell my internet is faster is when i do a bandwidth test online
Come on Cano.
The way CC’s pitching, a hit here puts this one basically out of reach.
“The weather forecast looks dreadful for tomorrow so Matsui will get that day.”
OK. That will work too.
Come on, Robbie. You are so due.
bases loaded. Here is Cano
Hi I am the new york yankees..I love stranding runners and getting hits only when noone is one base.
We should be winning this game 8-0 by now. Good grief!
robie, robie, robiee
Send him to see a shrink.
He cn’t handle the pressure.
beckett just hit scutaro in the head…
Robbie is saving all his hits with RISP for the playoffs………………I hope.
Can the Yanks get a psychologist for Robbie? He’s got the talent, there’s no reason other than he psyches himself out.
Hard to say which is the worst, but top 5 in no particular order:
1. Harrelson
2. McCarver
3. Kay
4. Steve Phillips
5. Morgan
Cano just can’t get a break. Hits it right up the middle, but Buerhle is able to glove it. If it gets past the pitcher, it’s probably up the middle.
in honor of my brothers and sisters stuck watching the chicago feed. I changed my screen name.
Cano hits it hard again, right to Buerhle.
He’s been having much better at bats with RISP lately, just not the results.
“they got mad & said we are sending a box out so you can return the dvrs & remotes & if anything is damaged we will charge the credit card on file.
i said i dont have a credit card on file”
That is hysterical.
Nice that Scutaro just got hit in the head. He got the homer, right?
Some of you have to remember that Beckett sucked really bad last postseason. He is good but he isn’t god. When he is not on his A game he is like Burnett- very hittable.
Freakin’ Head huntng Beckett just drilled Scutaro in the head.
They had to take him outta the game.
“in honor of my brothers and sisters stuck watching the chicago feed. I changed my screen name.”
And we appreciate it.
Does anyone have verizon in the nj area that can tell me if you get yes and my9 games for all the games? I’m not sure if I should switch.
Is Scutaro OK?
“Nice that Scutaro just got hit in the head. He got the homer, right?”
No, that was Hill.
This is pathetic. Putting way too much pressure on the pitching staff lately because we are unable to hit with RISP.
18 yankees LOB tonight. I hope I read that wrong off of gameday.
“Hard to say which is the worst, but top 5 in no particular order:
1. Harrelson
2. McCarver
3. Kay
4. Steve Phillips
5. Morgan”
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I think I’d move Kay to 5. If Phillips was the main guy and not there just for commentary, he’d be my number 1. But hard to put a color guy ahead of the primaries.
come on CC – buckle down here…
Has anyone done the math? I just told a friend that Robbie would be reaching Gehrig RBI numbers if he was just hitting his average in RISP situations. It seems like he has had at least one bases loaded at bat every game.
We had Qwest DSL, Bru. Possibly they weren’t indicative of good DSL – but my experience with them was awful. My cable company gives me a pretty good deal on the channels and package I have and they’re constantly upgrading and adding new features and not raising our prices ridiculously, so I’ve stuck with them
in fairness to the yanks..they are facing a fairly tough pitcher…but they love leaving runners on base…key culprit..cano
My horrible announcer list is:
1. Harrelson
2. McCarver
3. Morgan
4. Steve Phillips
5. Sutcliffe
i just put the rs game on.
becket has 6 so & beaned scutaro in the head
Damon has played a nice LF tonight. That’s the second time he’s held a hitter to a long single down the line.
Alex truly has no range. Hope it improves after the second stage surgery.
Sorry M, but it’s
1. Sutcliffe
2. Sutcliffe
3. Sutcliffe
4. Sutcliffe
5. Sutcliffe
SA,
Yes, you read that wrong. 8 men LOB, still bad, but not THAT bad.
Headhunting after getting lit up…it’s the Red S*x way.
djsunyc
August 28th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
beckett just hit scutaro in the head…
he is such a damn punk…..him and lollipop jaw in the bullpen, neither would last a week on our team with their attitudes
CWS needs this game since DET is winning.
big weakness for the playoffs that could bite us:
1. coke, aceves, bruney
2. runners in scoring postion
3. corner outfield defense.
how come no one’s list of bad annoucners contains:
JOe BUCK from FOX
Did you see that throw by Damon. He is throwing much better this year. Maybe his shoulder feels good.
Is he still in the game after the beaning of Scutaro?
Enough Hawk August 28th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
how come no one’s list of bad annoucners contains:
JOe BUCK from FOX
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Don’t Psycho-people call that “repression”, or something like that?
“how come no one’s list of bad annoucners contains:
JOe BUCK from FOX”
He’s top 10, not top 5.
Our starters have had a lot of 10K games these past 2 weeks.
lets go cc.
The offense owes CC dinner cause he is bailing their butts out.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
bru and keith I’m three days new to Verizon so you can imagine I’m still trying to figure out their channel lineup!
Trisha I think you have me confused with someone else. I have not commented on your VZ situation. Best of luck.
1. Harrelson
2. McCarver
3. Sutcliffe
4. Steve Phillips
5. Morgan
carp. runners on the corners nobody out.
GO ORTIZ BAD KARMA.
m, you’ve got Morgan down too low.
nice 10 so.
give me some points cc
lets take the lead to 7 games in the loss
Rays down 6-0 and fading fast
“Trisha I think you have me confused with someone else. I have not commented on your VZ situation. Best of luck.
Keith, it was little keith! (keith with a small k.)
Thanks for the good wishes though.
runs: more of them would be nice
1st and 3rd sox, nobody out down 3-0 in the 4th.
…bay just struck out so one out so far…
1 out, bad guys in beantown.
He he
CC is not an ace.
CC is a good pitcher but not great. He’s an innings eater.
CC was only dominant last year because he was in the national league.
We heard all of those things over and over and over about CC.
He’s struck out 10 hitters while throwing 86 pitches.
He’s arguably the best pitcher in baseball right now and has been since the break.
“Rays down 6-0 and fading fast”
All of the sportswriters talk about how good Garza is. Where are they getting that from because it certainly isn’t from his results.
Laura,
No particular order. They’re all bad.
I think we can agree that McCarver’s the worst, though?
Morgan is more sad than bad. His brain is pickled or something.
Fatso on third. 3-1 Jays.
CC is pitching like an Ace for sure tonight.
CC with 10 Ks tonight!
So is Bob (I hate the Yankees) Watson going to suspend Beckett?
They should call the game.
please baseball gods, think juice, jack daniels, and lies – and continue to mete out justice.
Fatso scores – 3-2, 2 out.
Okay baseball gods, if you want to punish RSN by making it seem close and then BLAM I’m down with that…
The wind robbed Tex in the first, and it robbed Melky here in the 6th. Boo.
Hey, it’s an official game? Why haven’t they called it yet?
Angel-
Yeah they left Beckett in the game.
The ‘Roid Sox always received favorable treatment.
Oops, where do we squeeze in Keith Hernandez on that list?
“I think we can agree that McCarver’s the worst, though?
Morgan is more sad than bad. His brain is pickled or something.”
No, Hawk is the worse. McCarver is definitely second. I do agree with you about Morgan. He’s one of those guys who is lost in his own aura and his own perception of his “legacy”.
“Oops, where do we squeeze in Keith Hernandez on that list?”
I left him off the list on purpose. The Mets have suffered enough this season. It was my one act of charity.
Jays coughing up the lead.
# Laura August 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
“Rays down 6-0 and fading fast”
All of the sportswriters talk about how good Garza is. Where are they getting that from because it certainly isn’t from his results.
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Garza pitched really well in the first half, but hasn’t been so great in the 2nd half.
How do I know? Because he’s on my fantasy team…and I started him tonight.
Nuts.
3-4, bad guys. And it ain’t over yet.
BUT – hopefully they can come back.
Wait 3-3. They just ruled it a GRD and so only one run scored.
GO JAYS!
Beckett in the dugout looks like the devil. His cap if off and he has hair horns.
uh – outs would be good here…I know there should be more runs on the board…but please
THE ELF WHIFFED!!!
Not a good job by the offense. Leaving a small village on the bases. Game should not be this close.
CC getting winded.
come on CC!
Bloop double
Bruney is warming in the bullpen.
Whatever happened to that guy who used to play for the Yankee? Somebody named Hughes?
Why not warm up Phil Hughes here instead of Bruney? I don’t get this pidgeon hole “He can only be the 8th inning guy now” at all.
Oh Robby. It’s love.
Man, I vote for CC to get out of the inning, Hughes to get the 8th, and then Mo.
AH Hawk – “Brian Bruney loosening in the pen. Bring him on.”
LOSER!
GREAT play by ARod!
sweet play!
Good throw. Good tag. Nice play all around.
Very very nice boys.
The offense has been crap with RISP last 2 games. Lets hope they wake up.
That’s an incredible stat by the TV telecast.
CC’s gone at least 6.2 innings 22 out of the last 25 starts. Pretty amazing.
we have to go to hughes earlier if needed.
Good job A-Rod!!!
46,318 umpires thought that was a strike.
Nix has hurt the Yanks in almost every game that he’s played against them. Caught a break with Getz not playing.
wheeew.
Damn Alex has no range.
That was the most range ARod has shown in a long time
5-3 Jays. Barrajas homer
Great play Arod, saved a run!
homerun jays…now up 5-3
why is there a delay in Minny?
Well, save the run at least. There is that.
On the 2-2 count, I looked at the box score and noticed that Nix was 2-3 in the game…and cringed.
5-3 jays
dude with a .240 BA is 3/4 off CC – unbelievable
The strike zone is shifting mid-game.
Come on CC!!!
And another Becky Blast.
Let’s go, CC. One more out.
Poor CC must be gassed.
GET BACK IN THE BOX ROOKIE!
big pitch…c’mon carsten charles!
Girardi should have taken CC out after the first Wallk
Arite. Not the perfect outcome but I’ll take it.
Hope they score this inning. CC deserves a win here.
And the blown call on strike 3 costs a run…
Defense picked up CC big that inning- Alex and Swish
Wow, our defense stepped up that inning
Thank you God for the good throw.
2 runs in 7 innings is excellent. We will take this game.
16 wins sounded so sexy.
Rally Yanks! Let CC get a W pleeeeease!
CC clearly tiring, a righty hitter at the plate, and Hughes hasn’t pitched since Sunday night in Boston. A 1-run game with the bases loaded and 2 outs, and your most dominant set up reliever well rested and ready to go as opposed to a tiring CC Sabathia.
Common sense, something which consistently eludes Girardi.
Beckett is looking like he did when he first came to the AL, everything is getting knocked out of the park
Oh, boy. Could’ve been worse. Let’s go, bats.
Great throw by Swisher.
7 innings and 2 runs is good. Wish he hadn’t had that bad inning, but what can you do?
The offense needs to now bail him out and get him a win.
And if I see Bruney instead of Hughes in the 8th, I’m gonna scream.
So are people gonna “blame” CC for this 2-run meltdown the same way people bashed AJ yesterday for the 3-run inning?
Serf
August 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
16 wins sounded so sexy.
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Could still happen. Heck, the offense owes CC that!
this is what happens when your hitters continually choke in the clutch with men on base. Just pathetic how these guys cannot get hits with men on base for way too many games. You cannot rely on solo homers. You HAVE to cash in opportunities at some point, or you just put your pitchers under too much pressure.
Too bad, he was one strike away.
Not having Posada’s bat in the line-up has hurt them a bit tonight.
Why is Phil Hughes on this team?
There’s no rule that CC has to throw 120 pitches every game.
There’s no rule that he can’t get tired earlier than that.
But I guess the 8th inning guy can only throw in the 8th inning.
Another good example of how relief pitcher often don’t pitch the highest leverage innings of a game.
Tunnel man – never!
Meanwhile I hope Toronto has a good pen because it is going to need to go to it early…
CC clearly tiring, a righty hitter at the plate, and Hughes hasn’t pitched since Sunday night in Boston. A 1-run game with the bases loaded and 2 outs, and your most dominant set up reliever well rested and ready to go as opposed to a tiring CC Sabathia.
Common sense, something which consistently eludes Girardi.
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I think CC earned the right to try and get out of it himself. Anyone else, and Hughes would be in the game.
It could have been much worse if not for defense.
joe shudda brought in phil hughes for gordon
Serf
August 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
16 wins sounded so sexy.
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Could still happen. Heck, the offense owes CC that!
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They’d have to send CC out again though and he’s at 110 pitches I think. Not likely. Definitely a 20 win season for CC though.
Matt
i agree
CC gased & 2 right handed hitters up with 2 outs, why not bring Huges in to blow them away?
Why push CC to the limit when he was clearly gased?
?????
Stranding runners in scoring position almost always comes back to bite you in the asss
No way Posada makes those 2 plays at the plate………….
If that ball would have gotten by Arod, would Girardi have taken CC out? Then why leave him in just because Arod made a great play? It’s really unconscionable that a former catcher can see signs of fatigue from 100 feet away that most of us can see from our couch.
if we get a run here wud cc get the win? he wud rite?
Matt
August 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
CC clearly tiring, a righty hitter at the plate, and Hughes hasn’t pitched since Sunday night in Boston. A 1-run game with the bases loaded and 2 outs, and your most dominant set up reliever well rested and ready to go as opposed to a tiring CC Sabathia.
Common sense, something which consistently eludes Girardi.
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Girardi has always loved to play with fire and to his record many times his gambles have worked out. It kinda did right now because it could’ve been so much worse and its still a tie.
If the offense does what they should’ve already done, and that is to score (too many men left on base), CC may still get a win and I’ll be happy.
Just make contact Tex…Let his velocity do the rest.
Awesome. Pukey Kd and fat pop up popped out. Does he ALWAYS have to swing for a home run? Who does he think he is, christo?
Uncle Tito August 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
CC gased & 2 right handed hitters up with 2 outs, why not bring Huges in to blow them away?
Why push CC to the limit when he was clearly gased?
?????
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This is maddening.
It was clear after the first walk that CC was gassed.
and yet numbnuts left him in.
Serf August 28th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Serf
August 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
16 wins sounded so sexy.
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Could still happen. Heck, the offense owes CC that!
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They’d have to send CC out again though and he’s at 110 pitches I think. Not likely. Definitely a 20 win season for CC though.
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No, if the Yankees score here, then CC still qualifies for the win. He is still the “active” pitcher in the game.
Where on earth do they find a batting helmet large enough to fit David Ortiz????????????
Good throw by Swisher and if Jorge was behind the plate he probably wouldn’t be able to handle throw and apply the tag. LOL Posada would of been tagging Castro with his glove while holding the ball with his barehand.
G, yes because he pitched the top of the inning.
Serf
August 28th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Serf
August 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
16 wins sounded so sexy.
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Could still happen. Heck, the offense owes CC that!
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They’d have to send CC out again though and he’s at 110 pitches I think. Not likely. Definitely a 20 win season for CC though.
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are you sure
if they score this inning he wins???
*Calling* *it* *now*: A-Rod hits a home run right now.
Unbelievable.
5-5
“CC gased & 2 right handed hitters up with 2 outs, why not bring Huges in to blow them away? Why push CC to the limit when he was clearly gased?”
Because stupid Girardi had Bruney up instead of Hughes.
Jays stink
Man I wanted CC with a win. It would really help towards that Cy Young award.
bru, only way he wouldn’t is if they come back later to tie it up. That is if we got the lead.
Serf August 28th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
They’d have to send CC out again though and he’s at 110 pitches I think. Not likely. Definitely a 20 win season for CC though.
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No, if the Yanks score and stay ahead CC gets the win.
When your team is having trouble scoring runs, why not go for the kill and bring in Hughes? It’s not just that CC’s tiring, or that EVERYTHING in the world aligned to make Hughes the perfect move, but also the fact that you aren’t scoring runs these last 2 games and have been terrible with RISP.
You have a lead, you have a tiring pitcher, bring in your lock down guy and WIN THE GAME.
Girardi keeps messing around and it keeps costing the Yankees wins. Coke yesterday, WHY? You had Robertson, Marte, Hughes, ANYONE else, and you brought in your guy most prone to a huge meltdown in a 1 run game and guess what? He melted down.
Making the same mistakes over and over again and thinking something will change is not the sign of bad luck, it’s the sign of stupidity.
Need to manufacture a run against one of the better bullpens.
Jeez…. NESN is parading all the RSN Fanboys out tonight. First Dane Cook, now Ben Affleck???
At least its for a good cause.
ps…I wonder if Ben Affleck got the birthday present I sent him???…”Acting for Dummies.”
I don’t like Jason Bay.
“There’s no rule that CC has to throw 120 pitches every game.
There’s no rule that he can’t get tired earlier than that.
But I guess the 8th inning guy can only throw in the 8th inning.
Another good example of how relief pitcher often don’t pitch the highest leverage innings of a game.”
These are all rules, they’re just unwritten–that’s probably what is confusing you. You must also be unfamiliar with “leverage”, it is determined solely by the inning–the higher the number, the greater the leverage. That’s why it is better to pitch your second best reliever in a tie game in the 8th than with a one run lead in the 7th….right??
Just a dreadful performance by the offense tonight. Gotta hope Posada is back soon.
Yoouuuuuuuse
Jim, I don’t think CC is eligible for a win if he leaves a tie game. The win would go to somebody else.
Bay HR 5-5 now.
This offense can be SOOOOOOOOO frustrating sometimes. Grrr!!! Only two freaking runs the way Buehrle pitched? SAD.
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Jim, I don’t think CC is eligible for a win if he leaves a tie game. The win would go to somebody else.
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No, that’s why I said if they score…
Come back soon Jorge
If this is the offense we see without him in the lineup… it is not very pleasant.
Sucks cause the offense did nothing with RISP so CC doesn’t a win. sigh
Jim, we said the same thing.
Deangelo Mack has hit his 7th homer for Staten Island. Carmen Angelini has hit 2 homers and Adam Warren had 5 innings, 4 hits, 2 runs (earned), 2 walks, 5 strikeouts.
“Why is Phil Hughes on this team?
There’s no rule that CC has to throw 120 pitches every game.”
Second guessers in droves
First of all, at the end of that inning, CC was at 113 pitches. It is not 120.
Second of all, there is no guarantee that Hughes will get an out, especially with the bases laoded. If Hughes were to walk or give up a hit, the same arm-chair pundits will be whining why CC was taken out.
Hughes solidified the bullpen in May, June and July. He’s barely pitched this month!
What happened to the offense all of a sudden?
6th inning and Beckett is out of the game.
W. Sox have an elite pen… not going to be easy to score off them at all. One hard thrower after another.
That cutter is getting better and better…
“Just a dreadful performance by the offense tonight. Gotta hope Posada is back soon.”
We don’t know that Posada would have gotten any hits tonight. The guys can’t sit back and wait for injured guys to come back. They are more than capable of getting hits on their own.
BBFan
It’s not second guessing when you are asking the questions before the moves are made (or not made).
And we were.
Hughes makes Thome look silly.
Just wow.
Hughes has best ERA since ASB, of all bullpen pitchers – per Chicago broadcasters.
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Jim, I don’t think CC is eligible for a win if he leaves a tie game. The win would go to somebody else.
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But, CC hadn’t officially left yet. He isn’t out of the game until somebody comes in to replace him. Therefor, if the Yankees had scored, he would have been eligible for the win.
But that’s all irrelevant now, since the Yankees failed to even get a runner on the bases.
Oh NOW he bring Yooooooooooosue in.
Girardi sucks.
“W. Sox have an elite pen… not going to be easy to score off them at all. One hard thrower after another.”
Huh? If there pen is so elite, why are they barely a .500 team? Linebrink is shaky, Pena is horrible and Jenks is having an off year. They are beatable.
“What happened to the offense all of a sudden?”
Jorge being out shortens it.
hughes is a BEAST…
I was hoping that CC would get the win so that his Cy Young chances would improve. His ERA went down slightly.
That was CC’s inning to get out of. He is your ace you let him work out of it. If it was your #5 that is another story.
Please send Swisher to the bench.
It couldn’t stand his terrible,awful…hitting.
CC and AJ are great,but hitting is so terrible lately.
hughes has the stuff to be the heir apparent but more than that, he has the poise and calmness of the great mariano…
Kay thinks Girardi has not used Hughes this month and that was a shrewd decision? Not quite sure I follow that logic.
“But, CC hadn’t officially left yet. He isn’t out of the game until somebody comes in to replace him. Therefor, if the Yankees had scored, he would have been eligible for the win.”
True. I said that, but obviously not so clearly!
HUGHES IS AWESOME. PERIOD.
rconn23
August 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Just a dreadful performance by the offense tonight. Gotta hope Posada is back soon.
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You are aware that Buhrle not exactly a dog, right?
you got let cc try to finish that inning…no doubt…
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse.
Geezus….that was just GAS!
I LOVE YOU PHIL! Sick Sick Sick.
Too all on here who want Hughes in the rotation next year…Who comes into this game next year….i want some names…
Second of all, there is no guarantee that Hughes will get an out,
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hmmmm, seems to me that Hughes is about as close as it gets to a guarantee these days.
I am so impressed I have tears in my eyes. What a thing of beauty.
Damn Hughes is really good. Really good.
Come on Matsui, Swish and Cano! Runs please.
he would done dat to beckham if joe bought him in b4!!!cc wud had a win =[
Wow even in slow motion Phil’s fastball is too fast to follow with your eye.
Dude is sick
guarantee posada plays very soon
Terrific side for Phil Hughes. If we don’t score here, I hope Girardi has the guts to go with Hughes in the top of the 9th.
Youuuuuuuuuuuse
Why? Why? Wasn’t Hughes pitching yesterday. Oh well. Does he come out for the 9th if the game is still tied? I know Rivera is gonna come in. But screw the rules. If this goes into extra innings. We’ve used our best reliever for 1 inning.
Statement inning from Phil:
To Girardi: “Why the heck haven’t you used me?”
Huuuuuuuuggghhheeesss!!!!!
RMEL August 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Too all on here who want Hughes in the rotation next year…Who comes into this game next year….i want some names…
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relax brother, we can worry about that this winter…this season ain’t over yet.
They are one of those teams that gets up for playing the Yankees. Against everyone else, they are very pedestrian; hence their lousy win/loss record.
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Laura, I think you nailed it on the head.
I have a hard time respecting teams like that.
WOW Hughes.
Just wow.
Hughes is nasty.
Girardi is thinking saving arms at this point. That’s what he said last night. So I’m thinking he’s thinking that he is not going to wear out Hughes anymore than he has to because he will definitely be their go-to pitcher in the post.
Just a thought.
Jim the VT Yankeefan
August 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Bay HR 5-5 now.
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One of those games that sox will win like 12-7.
Hope not but it has that MO.
RMEL
August 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Too all on here who want Hughes in the rotation next year…Who comes into this game next year….i want some names
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joba
Relax children… In October, Hughes will be used almost everyday.
The logic is that you want a guy with a 100-110 inning pitch limit pitching as many of those innings in October as you can. Right now Phil is at 71. He gets maybe 10-12 in September. He can do a lot of 2 inning holds in October, yes?
Very bad luck with the wind tonight….
Kay really needs to tone down his faux home run calls.
Ummm…was Leiter watching the same Hughes we were when he was starting he was not throwing 94.
CC is your ace Girardi has to show faith in him in the 7th and think he is going to get out of the inning with the lead.
Good inning by Hughes the bullpen is where he belongs. LOL @ Kay saying Hughes has a plus changeup.
“You are aware that Buhrle not exactly a dog, right?”
They put on 10 baserunners against him. He was there to be had.
The team’s biggest weakness, inability to hit with RISP, bit them big tonight.
relax brother, we can worry about that this winter…this season ain’t over yet.
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im totally relaxed….its everyone else who is going crazy because they want to make sure everyone knows he will be in the rotation next year…you are right we all need to see what happens this off season
How did they let an idiot like Girardi into Northwestern?
trisha
they had to dust hughes off before he went in
Girardi is thinking saving arms at this point. That’s what he said last night. So I’m thinking he’s thinking that he is not going to wear out Hughes anymore than he has to because he will definitely be their go-to pitcher in the post.
Just a thought.
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this is a fantastic plan if they make the playoffs, a disastrous one if they don’t.
Seeing how well Wakefield threw in his return and Boston’s offense starting to pick up, I was kinda worried that they might put a run together and make things nervous down the stretch, but seeing Beckett getting beat up again makes me feel a bit better.
3 consecutive starts giving up at least 1 earned run per inning pitched. Ouch.
Buehrle’s August:
Record 0-3
IP 37.1
H 57
BB 8
WHIP 1.74
ER 23
ERA 5.55
hughes, to me, is a better pitcher than joba. the guy is calm and is in control at all times. joba needs to grow up a little bit – the good thing is that he has alot of time to harness his unbridled talent.
“…In October, Hughes will be used almost everyday.”
Absomalutely
Actually Hughes did touch 94 mph when he was a starter. His velocity has risen since the injuries.
Trisha:
Saving Arms is great. They still need to win though, I hope this doesnt come back to bite us in the arse.
Ghost
Do you honestly think they’re going to give up 8 games in the standings and not make the playoffs? There’s only about 35 games left!
Such an effortless windup, and then his fastball just explodes at the plate……He just hits the target, with great pop I might add…His control is brillant
bru -
As I said, just a thought.
Jeremy
Leiter was talkign about it like he threw 94 with regularity as a starter. As much as I love the kid, that simply was not the case.
This game is a perfect example of why relief pitching is so over rated.
The key moment of the game was the 7th.
CC was tiring.
Brian Bruney was warming up.
It’s a formula. Don’t watch the game. Manage to the pitch count and the formula.
CC = 120 pitches, regardless of how hard he worked in the game (10 K’s…) and regardless of the evidence that suddenly his command and location started rapidly deteriorating.
Phil Hughes = 8th inning regardless of game context.
Once, again, the “set up” guy is brought but not at the key moment of the game.
It’s like managing by numbers.
Joba was the 8th inning man last year. Hughes was it this year. Could IPK be the man next year?
Pat M. August 28th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Such an effortless windup, and then his fastball just explodes at the plate……He just hits the target, with great pop I might add…His control is brillant
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he reminds me so much of mariano, it’s scary…
Swish definitely gets his money’s worth.
“hughes, to me, is a better pitcher than joba. the guy is calm and is in control at all times. joba needs to grow up a little bit – the good thing is that he has alot of time to harness his unbridled talent.”
I think the belief throughout the Yankee brain trust was that Hughes was ALWAYS a better pitcher then Joba.
I think most fans just got caught up in the Jobamania of ’07 and lost sight of that.
you dont save arms now
you just dont abuse them
this will come back to hurt us
what do you do if it stays tied? Hughes was so dominate in the 8th, do you let him pitch the 9th? or go to Mo?
ld IPK be the man next year
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does not have the stuff….
GGBG, after 2004, I take NOTHING for granted. Joe already gave up one game in the standings by not bringing in Hughes, if they lose this one it will be 2.
CB, you are spot on.
RMEL August 28th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Too all on here who want Hughes in the rotation next year…Who comes into this game next year….i want some names…
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I’m gonna reverse that question: If Hughes isn’t in the rotation next year, who are the 5 starters? You have:
CC
AJ
Andy P (if they bring him back)
Joba
????
Who’s the 5th man? Not Wang. He won’t be ready by then, barring a major miracle. So who? Do you recommend they go after, say, Rich “DL” Harden?
Bullpen…they could use Marte; Bruney could return to last season’s form; Coke, Robertson, and/or Melancon could step it up; just a few options. And that doesn’t include bringing in free agents or trades.
CB August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
This game is a perfect example of why relief pitching is so over rated.
The key moment of the game was the 7th.
CC was tiring.
Brian Bruney was warming up.
It’s a formula. Don’t watch the game. Manage to the pitch count and the formula.
CC = 120 pitches, regardless of how hard he worked in the game (10 K’s…) and regardless of the evidence that suddenly his command and location started rapidly deteriorating.
Phil Hughes = 8th inning regardless of game context.
Once, again, the “set up” guy is brought but not at the key moment of the game.
It’s like managing by numbers.
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i agree with this 100% of the time. the most important part of the game is not necessarily the 8th or 9th inning. tonight it was the 7th.
with that said, CC is a good enough pitcher to get out of it but i think that’s the spot you bring in huhges. and girardi probably will in the postseason (i hope)…
After all this the Yankees need to pull out this win. Come on boys.
hitter performance
best:Jeter,Tex
better:Damon,Posoda(hitting)
good:A-Rod,Matsui,Molina(be catcher),Hinske,Hairston
bad:cano
worse:Posoda(be catcher)
worst:Swisher,Melky,Molina(hitting)
“Kay really needs to tone down his faux home run calls.”
He gets worse as the season goes on.
Girardi has to play this like it’s going to extras. Keep Hughes in the game for the 9th, go to Mo in the 10th. It will help the team extend the game.
Girardi will go to Mo, but he should really leave Phil in there.
“Trisha:
Saving Arms is great. They still need to win though, I hope this doesnt come back to bite us in the arse.”
Dr., it’s a delicate balance but one I greatly respect. I wouldn’t want to be the one making the decisions, that’s for sure. You know how those decisions go – genius when they work out, idiot when they don’t.
But I would rather err on the side of caution with a 6 game lead. I grew so tired of seeing relief pitchers carrying their arms into the dugout during the Torre era.
A full count for Cano…???
Jim the VT Yankeefan
August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Joba was the 8th inning man last year. Hughes was it this year. Could IPK be the man next year?
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with his 42 mph fastball
“with his 42 mph fastball”
lol
The last thing needs to do is play extra innings in the rain…
kay stop yelling everytime there is a fly ball…
CB, I’m not a big fan of Sabermetrics but with bases loaded in the 7th inning that was the time to bring in Mariano. I don’t understand why no manager has attempted to espouse this strategy. Is the peer pressure that strong that no manager will innovate an idea that makes perfect sense on paper?
Gotta give credit to Thornton. He had good stuff tonight
Captain, a pie awaits you. It’s time.
Why waste Mo right now? Phil looks filthy right now. Stay with him in the 9th.
Wow. Thornton doesnt fool around.
is Cano afraid to take a walk?
Cano-he can’t.
Cabrera-Molina due up first in the 9th… yippeee
we’re such a better team without posada right?
As much as you guys laugh about Kennedy’s velo I bet you he touches 93 out of the pen.
I know Joba has been driving everyone nuts – esp w/his last 3 starts, but a little perspective.
Check out Beckett’s last 3.
Not pretty.
Think BOS might be worried?
would they dare pinch hit with posada?
“kay stop yelling everytime there is a fly ball…”
I told you that he is driving me crazy with that this season. “That ball is DEEEEEEEEP to left”. And right when he says that, Damon catches the ball in front of the warning track.
eek, easy on the double negatives Ghost
Game in beantown only in the bottom of the 6th. But I guess 10 runs in a game will do that to you, though most were the products of homers.
The Ghost August 28th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
CB, I’m not a big fan of Sabermetrics but with bases loaded in the 7th inning that was the time to bring in Mariano. I don’t understand why no manager has attempted to espouse this strategy. Is the peer pressure that strong that no manager will innovate an idea that makes perfect sense on paper?
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larussa changed baseball (for the worse in my opinion) 20 years ago and nobody has had the b lls to change it yet. at least nolan ryan is changing things up in texas in terms of pitch counts and starting pitching but bullpen roles just make me shake my head sometimes.
i also think starters should be put in the bullpen during their throw days. i would rather have a starter pitching an inning of relief on their throw day than some relievers.
Told you. He brings in Mo here for no good reason IMO.
Why not stay with Phil?
You do have to hit with RISP if you want to win in October. Can’t just wait for the HR ball.
Singleton and Cone are the best, but they are finished calling games this year.
So, we are stuck with Kay.
I’m gonna reverse that question: If Hughes isn’t in the rotation next year, who are the 5 starters? You have:
CC
AJ
Andy P (if they bring him back)
Joba
????
Who’s the 5th man? Not Wang. He won’t be ready by then, barring a major miracle. So who? Do you recommend they go after, say, Rich “DL” Harden?
Bullpen…they could use Marte; Bruney could return to last season’s form; Coke, Robertson, and/or Melancon could step it up; just a few options. And that doesn’t include bringing in free agents or trades.
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Finding a 5th starter is much easier to find then a elite set up man…Hell the yanks can sign John Lackey….or trade a couple of top prospects like Montero for high end startwe like Holliday….or trade mid range prospect for a decent mid range starter… do you trust any of those relievers in a tight situation this year let alone next
“Check out Beckett’s last 3.
Not pretty.
Think BOS might be worried?”
I betcha. After all, Beckett is their go-to guy hands down.
Where’s the outrage over Girardi’s 7th inning mismanagment!?!
Why is rivera in this game
bru August 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Jim the VT Yankeefan
August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Joba was the 8th inning man last year. Hughes was it this year. Could IPK be the man next year?
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with his 42 mph fastball
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there is this guy out there that has a lot of saves who has never had a blazing fastball. Hoffman, or something like that? So, to say IPK couldn’t do it just because he doesn’t have the velocity is a little short-sighted.
But, I have to say I also don’t think IPK would make a good set-up man. But it’s more of a gut-feeling than anything based on his velocity. I’ve just never really been impressed with him.
Girardi loves textbook baseball. I mean this is a slam dunk you bring your closer in a tied game at home.
did someone suggest use mariano in the 7th? WHAT?
BLah not a big fan of this move. Hughes is fresh right now. This game is now essentially in extra innings. You have to extend the game as much as possible. Save Mo for the 10th.
Also if you think about it, Hughes already ripped through the heart of the Sox order. Let him kill the bottom half of their order then bring Mo in for the leadoff guy.
Ozzie Guillen used his top set up guy to get 6 outs in this game.
Phil Hughes = 8th inning so Girardi has only used his top set up guy to get 3 outs.
But the formula says that in a tie game you throw your closer in the 9th.
We’ll see how this plays out. This game very well could be decided by Bruney or “Cokey.”
“Why not stay with Phil?”
Because Managing 101 says that you bring in your closer if the game is tied at home.
I would trade Cano for a bag of balls.
For a guy with tremendous speed, you’d think a guy like Ellsbury would cut down on his swing a little…
He takes Prince Fielder-esque cuts up there most of the time.
“You do have to hit with RISP if you want to win in October. Can’t just wait for the HR ball.”
Im not worried about that. This team has done very well with RISP over the course of the season. The past week or so has been the exception.
But you’ll have that from time to time.
I have to agree with many of you on here. The more I watch Girardi manage a bullpen the more disappointed I am. He is way too by-the-book which in many cases isn’t a good thing.
the next best guy in the pen (after mo and phil) is marte, imho. i think he is real good.
“Singleton and Cone are the best, but they are finished calling games this year.
So, we are stuck with Kay.”
Singleton and Cone aren’t doing any more games for YES this season? That seems odd since we have over 30 games left. Or do you mean doing games together?
Is there a “Hughes rule?” Can’t pitch 2 innings?
“Leiter was talkign about it like he threw 94 with regularity as a starter. As much as I love the kid, that simply was not the case.”
Yep Hughes fastball this year as a starter I think was averaging around 91. His fastball became electric coming out of the bullpen.
Hughes throws 14 pitches and absolutely dominates.
The Yankees have their two worst hitters leading off the bottom of the 9th inning.
So why burn Mo here? Doesn’t make sense.
Not letting Phil throw another inning could cost them the game.
Anyone else waiting to hear enter sandman for a red sox player very soon?
Get the pies ready.
“I would trade Cano for a bag of balls.”
Im channeling my inner 5th grader.
You’re Stupid.
“i also think starters should be put in the bullpen during their throw days. i would rather have a starter pitching an inning of relief on their throw day than some relievers.”
I agree with this to a point…but, do you really want your starters to have to get their throwing in at midnight if they aren’t used in the game? Not sure they want their guys doing their throwing that late in the day.
poontang pie kay?
i do agree however with others. use hughes one more inning save mo…if this games extra we are stuck with that crap that is coke and bruney…
actually if go back to my earlier posts three biggest yankee weakness:
1. coke bruney part of the bull pen
2. runners in scoring position
3. corner out field defense
“I would trade Cano for a bag of balls.”
That’s a trade only you make. Everyone else with any baseball sense sees how talented Cano is and knows that he’s a future MVP or batting crown champion.
Mo.
Terminator.
We are so spoiled.
“Where’s the outrage over Girardi’s 7th inning mismanagment!?!”
Tunnelman, I will just give you my perspective for whatever it’s worth. You may think it’s worthless, and maybe it is.
CC has thrown a heck of a lot more than 100 pitches in a game. He had a two-run lead. I’m sure Girardi thought he would get out of it. Essentially he did since he didn’t give up the lead. I just don’t think you remove you ace from the game in that situation. It would show total lack of confidence, especially since his pitch count wasn’t terribly high. We’re not dealing with a “must win” situation. So he played the odds. I don’t think any manager would have played it differently unless you were in a must-win situation in the playoffs.
Just my opinion.
pure molina genius there…called time, told mo lets be smart here and pointed to his head, called the cutter in and framed it perfectly! can go 0-10 at the plate, what he brings behind the plate is perfection
Mo will go two tonight.
L to the 2nd August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Mo.
Terminator.
We are so spoiled.
yeah
Ghost,
For most teams I’d agree with you – if you have a weapon like Mariano you use him in the 7th.
That’s the game.
But the yankees this year don’t even need to do that because they have Hughes.
What’s maddenning about this managing by tony larussa’s mentality is that the whole reason why the Yankees have Mitre/ Gaudin in the rotation is theoretically so that they can have a dominant set up man pitch high leverage innings late in a game.
But then Hughes just rots away in those very high leverage spots he’s wasting away in the pen to throw in the first place.
It’s the worst of both worlds. You have a scrub pitcher in the rotation so that you can have Hughes in the pen.
And then you don’t use Hughes in the spot where his value would be maximized.
It’s just astonishing.
Complete waste.
Rob B August 28th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
“i also think starters should be put in the bullpen during their throw days. i would rather have a starter pitching an inning of relief on their throw day than some relievers.”
I agree with this to a point…but, do you really want your starters to have to get their throwing in at midnight if they aren’t used in the game? Not sure they want their guys doing their throwing that late in the day.
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heck, let them start the game and give you and inning or two…
Linebrink can stink every now and then. The problem is that each guy is going up there thinking HR.
cano is talented…but….he refuses to hustle and gives away at bats…just saying.
“This game very well could be decided by Bruney or “Cokey.””
Exactly and that’s why bringing in Mo right now was a dumb move. You have to extend the game in this situation. Lets say he goes with Hughes in the 9th. Is that really a huge risk? He looks filthy right now. Sure, Mo is basically a guarantee to get 3 outs but Hughes is very nearly a guarantee as well.
Would you rather have this:
9th: Hughes after throwing 14 pitches in the previous inning
10th: Rivera
11th: Bruney/Marte
or:
9th: Rivera
10th: Bruney
11th: Marte
I’m not saying it will definitely go 11 or 12 but you’d think a manager would plan for the worst.
I got Jeets as my pick to click for a PIE!!
well with molina up this inning the yankees already have one out…
“cano is talented…but….he refuses to hustle and gives away at bats…just saying.”
Hustle where? On the field, running to 1st? I don’t see it.
Laura
After the last game they did together, Singleton said that they were done in the booth for this year. He also thanked the people behind the scenes for their help and their great work.
“cano is talented…but….he refuses to hustle and gives away at bats…just saying.”
You are an idiot.
maybe mo pitches the 10 th if there in one…here is out number 2 by the way…
Not going to score many runs if they all have the “short porch” in their minds.
“well with molina up this inning the yankees already have one out…”
yup. very true.
“UPDATE, 9:15 p.m.: Can’t believe Swisher made that great a throw. He never does that.”
That’s just about literally true. His only other OF assist this year came on April 25 at Fenway (the 16-11 loss), when a lob throw to second was enough to get Pedroia, who was trying a delayed sneak into second base as the runner on third scored on a sac fly.
So that’s the first time all year Swisher’s thrown out anyone at any base with a full strength throw from the OF.
Picked a good time.
The other annoying thing that Hawk does is that he talks to the player as if the player can actually hear him. He just said “Take your time, Scott. Don’t rush it. There ya go”. I mean, it’s like listening to a 12 yr old.
Molina with the walk off
Oh, Bruney is warming… wonderful.
Posada must be worse then thyre letting on if they wouldnt pinch hit here.
Damn, cant pinch run for Hosey.
Molina on base does nothing for us… it takes 2 non HR hits to score him.
Have Molina steal 2nd, then 3rd, then go all Jackie Robinson. White Sox would not suspect it.
i am an idiot? Does cano hustle..I did not say he is a bad player just saying the guy does not hustle and he sometimes gives away at bats..that is fair no?
Nothing more need be said.
C’mon Jetes. You want the pie, you know you do!
hawk/dr- SHHHHHHHHHH thanks
“After the last game they did together, Singleton said that they were done in the booth for this year. He also thanked the people behind the scenes for their help and their great work.”
Really? Wow, 30 straight games of Kay? That’s going to drive many on here crazy.
we better score this inning…Bruney is warming up
Time for Jeter to eat some whip cream.
Damn that Jose. Automatic-freaking-out-every-freaking-time.
Pinch runner, please?
Its ironic that in waiting for the “highest leverage” point in the game to utilize Hughes as a weapon, that point at times comes and goes before he’s even used.
Not a very effective use of a stellar weapon militarily speaking, lol.
Only way we’re scoring is by HR. Even a double only gets him to 3rd.
Jeter hit it hard.
End it Johnny. End it now.
damn
“i am an idiot?”yes
“Does cano hustle..I did not say he is a bad player just saying the guy does not hustle and he sometimes gives away at bats..that is fair no?” no.
They can’t pinch run for him. There isn’t anyone to catch.
trisha
jmo we should of lost this game
girardis respect for cc almost cost the game.
you bring in hughes who is a so pitcher & on fire
cc was also getting hit hard
no pr
terrible
Coke is the new Proctor… he’s not very good yet he always finds himself coming into the game in big spots.
Hard to PR for a guy when you have no catcher to replace him.
“no pr
terrible”
how could you pr…posada cant catch…
uggggggggg “Free baseball!”
“i am an idiot? Does cano hustle..I did not say he is a bad player just saying the guy does not hustle and he sometimes gives away at bats..that is fair no?”
I don’t think you are an idiot, but I do disagree with your assessment of Cano.
Oh no Bruney in, Game Over !!!
This extra inning game is brought to you by Joe Girardi and his incompetent 7th inning game managment.
Have Girardi’s managerial skills deteriorated from that Boston series to now or what?
3 of our last 4 games he made costly decisions that cost us the game
bru, I’m not saying I agree with the move or lack of move, just thinking that’s why Girardi did it. A lot of time the “respect for the ace” comes back to bite. I’ve seen it with Andy and with a lot of other pitchers. You know they’re gassed and the situation looks tenuous but the manager always gives them the rope. Well most of the time.
Patrick
August 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
“cano is talented…but….he refuses to hustle and gives away at bats…just saying.”
You are an idiot.
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I see my work on lohud is done.
Just kidding LOL ! But maybe
Girardi’s bullpen management lately has been questionable, and that’s being nice.
10 pitches for Rivera, and you’re bringing in Bruney? Come on, win the game for crying out loud.
A 6 game lead is hardly insurmountable, yet Girardi has been messing around ever since they won the series in Fenway Park and trying to rest guys rather than get the lead large enough where you can afford to actually do so without causing issues.
You lose a few games by messing around, and all of a sudden your 6 game lead is 4 or 5, which is hardly a lock. You win the games now, you rest the players in 2 weeks.
mo threw 10 pitches. can we use him for another, please?
I would rather Torre’s method of running Hughes into the ground rather than Girardi’s method of pitching him 5 innings a month.
I saw some of the game at the restaurant I went to with my family……….disappointing 7th inning for the CC as he’d pitched so well. Alex saved a run with a play at 3rd and Swish made a great throw to get that runner out…….The offense was bad again tonight……..Phil was NASTY tonight.
RalphieD (OPPC)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
“no pr
terrible”
how could you pr…posada cant catch…
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yes he can
New post for extra innings.
Let’s all remain hopeful. We haven’t lost this game, and home field advantage is always comforting in extra innings.
sit down elf-boy!
That little kid and his pothead brother are pretty funny
Bruney in…tell me when it’s okay to look.
The weather is crummy, Mo came off, off season shoulder surgery. You don’t push him. Why risk it?
WHY NOT LEAVE MO IN?????
Are we trying to GIVE this f’n game away??
You do push it. Hes had ample rest and these are becoming MUST WIN GAMES.
Just amazingly incompetent use of personnel and talent this game.
The game gets down to Bruney for no reason.
Brian Bruney is going to pitch higher leverage innings in this game than Phil Hughes.
Just remarkable.
I wanted to see Hughes again in the 9th, so we could bring Mo in in the 10th.
Pierszynski is one player that I hate seeing bat against the Yanks. always does damage.
Bruney is a terrible
PITCHER
I like Girardi, but his managing over the last week has been brutal.
You just hope we don’t end up choking away this division lead because of his managing.
Mac Daddy
August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
pure molina genius there…called time, told mo lets be smart here and pointed to his head, called the cutter in and framed it perfectly! can go 0-10 at the plate, what he brings behind the plate is perfection
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Can it. Molina costs more runs with his bat than he saves with his defense and game calling.
Matt,
Are really a different Matt? Because even he’s not this bad.
Need to pick a different handle, your writing style’s too close.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and state that I believe this kid Beckham is going to have a better career than Evan Longoria. I really like what I’ve seen from him
The Ghost August 28th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I’m going to go out on a limb here and state that I believe this kid Beckham is going to have a better career than Evan Longoria. I really like what I’ve seen from him
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limb? more like going out on both arms and legs…and feet…
Bruney is being given the opportunity to regain his effectiveness in high leverage situations.
runner thrown out at home in boston, still tied and now in rain delay…
whoa, that was low…
Bruney pitches a scoreless inning. What a horrible decision by Girardi.
omg
Sterling bungles another call…
Damn the wind!
terpbomber August 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Sterling bungles another call…
It was gone off the bat man. The wind kept it in.
lol @ Suzyn.
On the mound meeting. “Molina’s not covering his mouth with his glove. Oh. He’s chewing gum…”
That ball would have been gone on a normal day, I know that sound. Damn.
That ball A-Rod hit has him shook
robbie…please DONT FEAR THE RISP….bring the COWBELL!!!
That’s more like it.
WHADDAYA KNOW…IT’S RISPIE CANO!!!!!!!!!!!!
CANO!!!!
Robbie gets pie!!!!!!!!!!!!
did you see they way Cano dogged it on that one!
You can put it on the booooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddddddddddd
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish Cano could be more clutch
Girardi is a genius
He wins another game inspite of so much whining
He is really making arm-chair pundits look good
CHEA!!!
5 for the ‘good’ guys, 2 for them……take that idiot White Sox announcers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!