Game 130: White Sox at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 30, 2009 
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YANKEES (81-48)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Hinske RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (8-4, 4.34).
WHITE SOX (64-66)
Podsednik LF
Beckham 3B
Pierzynski C
Quentin LF
Thome DH
Dye RF
Kotsay 1B
Ramirez SS
Nix 2B
Pitching: RHP Freddy Garcia (0-1, 6.75).
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES/TBS.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees took the first two games of the series and are 3-2 on a homestand that ends today. They leave after the game for Baltimore. The Yankees have won 19 of their last 25 games and maintain a six-game lead on Boston in the AL East.
THE CHASE FOR HOME FIELD: Thanks to Oakland beat the Angels, the Yankees now lead Los Angeles by 4.5 games for best record in the AL and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. The Yankees have 33 games left, the Angels 34. The teams meet four times head to head.
Why is this important? The Yankees are 2-10 at Angel Stadium over the last three years, 5-17 in the last five.
THE JOBA RULES REVISITED: Don’t be surprised if Joba Chamberlain only pitches three or four innings today. The Yankees plan to restrict his innings now and then build him back up near the end of the season. Chamberlain has pitched poorly of late, going 1-2 with an 8.55 ERA in his last four starts.
HOME COOKING: The Yankees have won 18 of their last 22 games at Yankee Stadium.
THE JETER METER: The Captain is now 14 hits away from passing Lou Gehrig for most hits in franchise history. The Iron Horse had 2,721. Jeter has reached base in the Yankees half of the first inning in eight of the last 12 games. He has 43 hits in August, marking his most for any calendar month since August 2001. He also is two steals away from 300 in his career.
VALUABLE RESERVE: Jerry Hairston, Jr. has hit safely in nine of his 11 starts since joining the Yankees.
I DON’T WANT TO FADE AWAY: The White Sox have lost six of their last seven games and are now in third place in the Central, five games behind Detroit.
FREDDY’S BACK: This will be the third start for Freddy Garcia as he makes his latest comeback. Garcia is 2-7 with a 5.70 ERA in 16 starts over the last three years. He is 4-3, 4.19 against the Yankees in his career.
A-Rod owns Garcia: 12 of 32 with seven extra base hits including five homers.
HINSKE WITH YOUR BEST SHOT: Wondering why Eric Hinske is playing? He is 6 of 13 against Garcia with two extra-base hits. The Masher from Menasha has not homered since July 31. But he does have five jacks in 47 ABs for the Yankees.
SEE YOU IN SCRANTON: I’m off to PNC field in Moosic, Pa., in a few hours to see the Pawtucket-Scranton doubleheader. The second annual LoHud Yankees Blog Outing is today and we have 75 or so readers gathering in a suite down the left field line. Should be a lot of fun. Thanks to Ron for organizing it.
I’ll update the blog from that game later on today. For now, enjoy the Yankees game.
UPDATE, 12:03 p.m.: Via Mike Ashmore comes news that Dellin Betances has had Tommy John surgery. The Yankees must get a group rate from Dr. Andrews.
So add Betances to the list of pitching prospects who have had setbacks of one form or another. That group includes Andrew Brackman, Ian Kennedy, Alan Horne, Chris Garcia, etc. That’s why teams gather so many, the odds are against these guys from the start.
Hopefully Joba is ready to work quickly and attack the strike-zone today Ending the home stand 4-2 is the way to go. Since he’s limited on the amount of innings he’s going to be able to pitch, I guess we’re guaranteed some long relief today.
Mark Tiexiera will hit a home run this afternoon. Let’s go Yankees!!!! Put these sox in a box!
pretty sure we are 81-48 unless today is groundhog day.. and then I predict a one hit shut out in which the pitcher gets hit on the arm.
REPOST:
Rishi
August 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I remember sitting there forever in the rain waiting for them to make a decision the last time around – my sister and I take my mom to one game a year and that was it. At least she’ll get to go to the stadium twice this year
We’re also going to that last Yankee-Red Sox game (which should mean nothing for the Yankees!! )
Glad to see Hinske getting some playing time. Swisher was very due for a day off.
Off to the beach to pretend its a nice day. See you all later!
SamVa – I believe you are correct about the record
Rishi
I’m going to that last game as well. Seats aren’t spectacular, but doesn’t matter, just glad to see another Yankees/Sox game.
Barrows
August 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Rishi
I’m going to that last game as well. Seats aren’t spectacular, but doesn’t matter, just glad to see another Yankees/Sox game.
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totally – I think they are the worst seats we’ll have all year, but we’ll be there!
I was hoping to pick up a few more games during the year but every time I would want to go, we were in the middle of another rain storm here. the rain has been a pain this year!
mtotally – I think they are the worst seats we’ll have all year, but we’ll be there!
I was hoping to pick up a few more games during the year but every time I would want to go, we were in the middle of another rain storm here. the rain has been a pain this year!
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I hear ya. I’d love to make more this year, it simply wasn’t possible. Planning a wedding drained my wallet.
I think the seats I have are the front row of the last section of the upper deck, so all in all, not awful. Just over paid for them a little.
well – weddings are probably a financial priority
We’re in the upper section, mid-way up. i’m hoping for some warm weather and will probably walk around and get different views.
A friend with season tickets bought them in the pre-sale for us so we paid face value, though some times this year I though even that might be overpaying!
My first and only game this year (Monday PM vs. the Rays) and I have Legends Suite seats. I am so excited. They were a gift. Being unemployed I could never afford to buy the seats on my own.
Fran – that’s awesome! What a great gift! I hope they keep the regulars for the second game of the DH for you..
Sounds like lots of people are going to one game or another today. We’re off to see the Trenton Thunder. First there’s a continuation of last night’s suspended game and then the regularly scheduled, but 7-inning, affair.
Have fun everyone! Let’s go Yankees (and affiliates)!!
Break out the brooms!!!
Rishi,
Me too. But I am so excited to be going that it doesn’t really matter who plays and pitches. Well ok, I would not want to see Igawa pitch!
Doreen,
Have fun.
Guess a lot of us will be at games today. Still can’t wait to see everyone down at PNC Field today.
Anyone know how the field looks in Scranton? I know they got a lot of rain yesterday, but I think the fields have been fixed since. I just hate to drive the 3.5 hours to find out its been cancelled again.
if joba & burnett get on track look out
ill settle for one of them
Peter,
Whatz on the IPod right now?
Who comes in for Jobba?
if jeter has 13 hits going into next sunday, will the yankees give him the day off so he breaks the record in NY on the labor day double header?
no Josh today?
im sure we use ace first
then
robertson
coke
bruney
hughes
mo
Christina,
Chad Jennings hasn’t said anything otherwise, so I would imagine the game is still on. Chad’s generally pretty blunt if he doesn’t think a game is going to happen.
Tunnel Man,
Girardi said Aceves or Robertson come in for Joba today.
“if jeter has 13 hits going into next sunday, will the yankees give him the day off so he breaks the record in NY on the labor day double header?”
I thought Jeter doesn’t even care about numbers. In every interview when he breaks a record, he says he didn’t even know he was approaching it. But, he does somehow make sure that the ball gets saved.
thanks Barrows. Looks like today is going to be nice also.
joba for 4
ace for 2
robertson for 1
hughes for 1
mo for 1
if joba goes 3
ace for 2
robertson for 1
coke for 1
hughes for 1
mo for 1
Pete,
In reference to your Inglourious Basterds twitter update: You are an idiot.
i forgot about marte & bruney
i use marte over coke a little more
Pete, whats your reaction to the Kazmir deal, does it make LAA now even more of a problem for the Yanks? Chances are they face him in one of the 4 remaining games.
A starting pitcher going 3 or 4 innings on August 30th is just plain stupid. If this is all Joba can do then he’s a liability. You need pitchers that can give you innings. Middle relief is far from the Yanks strong suit.
Mike R:
I’m with you. It was a pretty audacious movie, far from the waste of 2+ hours that Pete describes.
Did anybody see the video of Jerry Hairston Jr. and Al playing stickball in the bronx w/ some kids?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-XugMm4_zY
Mike: Nice comment. So because I don’t like a movie, I’m an idiot?
Name-calling is usually the first option of an unintelligent person and I try to avoid discussions with such people. So you have a good day. I’m guessing you’re the exact target audience Tarantino was seeking.
P.S.: Hate to ruin it for you, but nobody actually killed Hitler in the war.
A couple of articles in different papers today about Jeter’s bunt yesterday.
“It was the right thing to do,” Jeter said. “You got a couple guys on base with nobody out, you move them over…”
Johnny hit a double so it worked as planned.
Jeter is swinging as hot a bat as anyone so if it is the right thing thing to do, would you want everyone in the line-up doing it including Tex, Alex and Matsui?
Great video Brandon…
As for Joba today, it’s still hard to imagine throwing a SP out there 4 innings. Even if he pitches well, we’re going to have to depend on our pitchers following him each start.
Of course, the roster does expand soon, so I suppose it isn’t as much of an issue. Still, I’d prefer we at least give the guy five innings.
pat, they are #3 & 4 hitters w/ power, I wouldn’t w/ them unless it’s a history of like 0 for 34 vs the pitcher & there’s a chance of the GIDP, the reason Jetes did that was to take away the GIDP for CHI, smart if you ask me b/c the next play the reason Damon got a 2 run single was b/c the infield was drawn in.
Hey Pete,
Just a small correction on the game post, the Yanks are 81-48.
Enjoy Scranton,
Percy
Barrows, I never expected to see Alex or anyother Yankees just say hey lets play stickball w/ these kids, but they did. I doubt it’s organized b/c the video was so not prepped if it was I still can’t say anything bad these are millionare athletes taking thier time to play w/ some kids in the neighborhood. *tear*
Mike- Why waste your time calling Pete and idiot..? if you don’t like him, don’t read his blog..
But a lot of us, including me, really appreciate the time he puts into keeping this thing going. So the fact that he didn’t like a movie that you apparently did, makes him the idiot?
I think not.
Those asking about PNC Field in Scranton, the field is fine. I was there for the DH yesterday. It poured for quite a while which caused the delay from 5:35 until 7:45. That’s why the DH was pushed back to today. Other than typical rain delays, there haven’t been RF drainage issues since they did the repairs in mid-July.
I could not attach the link..However, Bob Ryan in the Globe today had a great article that contained a few subjects that we have discussed many times on this blog.
Happy Sunday.
-dennis
Brandon,
Organized or not, it’s still great to see the players doing that. To get out and do something like that for your community is something I honestly expect of these players.
When you’ve got that status and can make such a positive impact on these kids, it’s certainly worth your time.
Otherwise, I’m heading out to get a few things done before I take my short 3 minute trip to PNC Field today, so if I”m not back, I look forward to seeing everyone in Scranton today.
I’m headed to Scranton, who else is coming?
Great to hear Ron. I assume this will be 2-7 inning games?
No, but an excellent bunter doing it is fine with me. Personally, I would rather see the Yanks hit and run more often but Girardi hasn’t called for advice in weeks.
I think this Joba plan makes a lot more sense than skipping his starts. He should have been on a 85 pitch limit all year long instead of this silliness of skipping starts and such. Protecting him long term is an important objective, so if he goes 75 pitches today and ups it by five pitches every other start until post-season that’s okay.
Pete,
Basterds has a 90% critic approval rating on rottentomatoes. So I’m not really sure there is a ‘target audience’ out there. Also, the movie starts with ‘Once upon a time…’
Barrows, I agree, and can you imagine that kid that was pitching to Alex & JH Jr., he prbly went home that night on cloud 9.
Christina, yes 2 7 inning games with a half hour between. Supposed to be Ivan Nova versus Randor Bierd in the first and Jason Hirsch versus possibly Paul Byrd (or Charlie Zink) in the second.
RonH
August 30th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Christina, yes 2 7 inning games with a half hour between. Supposed to be Ivan Nova versus Randor Bierd in the first and Jason Hirsch versus possibly Paul Byrd (or Charlie Zink) in the second.
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I believe Byrd is pitching in Fenway today.
“Basterds has a 90% critic approval rating on rottentomatoes. So I’m not really sure there is a ‘target audience’ out there. Also, the movie starts with ‘Once upon a time…’”
countryclub, that’s not the point. Pete shouldn’t be called an idiot just because he doesn’t like a movie. No one should.
Brandon
Mitre was there too and it was organized.
Here’s the story-
http://latinosports.com/baseba.....ayers.html
Cool, the game’s on TBS. I get to watch the game!!!!I’m assuming that YES will be blacked out on directv.
I’m also headed to watch some minor league ball as well. The Staten Island Yankees are playing the Vermont Lake Monsters in the first game of a three game series. Any prospects I should be watching for?
bunting is ok at times
we are ahead & looking to add some runs giving maybe a power hitter a chance.
if you dont bunt there when do you
it is almost a guarantee runners move over & almost anyhting hit scores them
What a great story pat. Thanks for the link. This type of stuff just is wonderful to see.
Here is an article and pictures about that day playing stickball:
http://latinosports.com/baseba.....ayers.html
And from the NYP:
Alex Rodriguez is sponsoring a group of little leaguers from throughout the five boroughs to take part at an All-Star Classic at Baseball Heaven, a baseball complex in Yaphank, L.I.. A-Rod has been sponsoring little league programs in The Bronx and wanted to give the kids a chance to play with kids from other areas of the city.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....187214.htm
Don’t know if those were mentioned the blog moves too fast to keep up with everything.
So who will be the September call-ups besides the obvious: Edwar, Albaladejo, Melancon, Pena, Cervelli?
Does Mike Dunn, Austin Jackson, Kevin Russo get a call?
Pete,
I come back to this site against my better judgment every now and then and always regret it. Thanks for spoiling Inglourious Basterds, which, you may be surprised to know, is not a documentary.
The story brought tears to my eyes, especially the part about each kid getting a $25 gift certificate to Modell’s.
If you look for the good, you usually can find it. If you only concentrate on the bad you will never see the good. That includes both in life and in people.
When you have Yankee players hitting like they did yesterday – we are more Bronx Bombers than Bronx Bombless, you really don’t have to worry about Jose Molina not providing offense. We’re lucky we have the hitters we do because they can help carry things until Posada is healed.
In the meantime, we are so lucky to have Molina as our backup catcher. I am happy to see him get this playing time because if the team keeps hitting he will surely help keep the pitching staff in order. He seems to know how to get the best out of our pitchers. That’s the price of gold for a backup catcher. May it continue.
GO YANKEES!
COME ON JAYS!!!!!
Yeah, Jeremy, it was a real mystery as to what would happen. Usually Tarentino movies are so nuanced. Really a shocking ending.
In checking your comments, this now marks the third you’ve said you’ll never come back. See you next time.
“A starting pitcher going 3 or 4 innings on August 30th is just plain stupid. If this is all Joba can do then he’s a liability.”
there’s this concept called losing a battle to win a war.
a well rested joba being brought back up t 100 pithes makes sense with a 6 game lead.
if there was no lead, i would have signed livan hernandez and shut joba down a few weeks ago for a month and then have brought him back up to 100 pitches.
there’s no one right way to do this because young pitchers have to have some sort of innings protection the way they are brought up.
add this to the fact the yankees are in a playoff push and it’s two things in conflict.
Laura,
Pete’s the man. And he’s obviously entitled to not like the movie. I was just pointing out that it’s been well recieved by critics and movie goers.
lets hope the d doesnt let joba down like they did in his last start and that posada does an ok job behind the plate
Just a low-level bit of information. Pawtucket is pronounced pa-tuh-kit. The reason I mention that is because just about every broadcaster, including some from fenway, refer to it as PAW-tuh-kit.
No need to thank me!
Pete,
Jermey has a point — for years, after I saw Animal House, I thought the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Boy was I red faced in when I visited the Arizona Memorial.
“if there was no lead, i would have signed livan hernandez and shut joba down a few weeks ago for a month and then have brought him back up to 100 pitches.”
Livan Livan??
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 30th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Just a low-level bit of information. Pawtucket is pronounced pa-tuh-kit. The reason I mention that is because just about every broadcaster, including some from fenway, refer to it as PAW-tuh-kit.
No need to thank me!
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Well at least that makes sense! Unlike the correct pronunciation of “Worcester”
Ironically, I just went to Robert Ebert´s website and he gave Jeter´s bunt a big thumbs down. Weird.
randy
The counter is started.
That’s one.
Only 116 more to go.
Bronx Jeers August 30th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Ironically, I just went to Robert Ebert´s website and he gave Jeter´s bunt a big thumbs down. Weird.
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Robert Ebert sucks. Now Roger Ebert, he’s good.
YES Innerview with Kim Jones and Mike Harkey:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/648830825d2400df/
Baseball tonight just did a quick piece on AL MVP canidates…brought up tex, Miguel cabrera, and youkilous…mentioned mauer after the fact and said NOTHING about Jeter, god I hate espn!!!
I’m a Tarantino fan, but I was expecting not to not like “Inglorious Basterds”.
However, I must say I was pleasantly surprised. It’s a Spaghetti Western set in World War II Nazi-occupied France.
If you’re looking for historical accuracy, you won’t get it here. But everyone knows that going in.
The violence is intense, but the dialogue, I thought was tremendous – as it typically is in Tarantino’s films.
Hey, it is a free country and every one is entitled to their opinions. Pete, not liking a movie which others liked is absolutely normal and any one calling him names for that deserves those names.
Just yesterday, I went to a movie with my wife which was rated 4.5/5 by the viewers and we did not like it at all. That does not mean others were wrong in rating it so high. It just so happens our tastes are different.
Oops,
Another bad joke goes awry.
Seriously though, are people that susceptible to random opinions?
I saw Inglorious Basterds last night. I thought it was an incredible movie (and I’m not one to randomly call people names who disagree with me). A lot of what I loved was the build-up during scenes that were acted very well. It’s not face-paced CGI with editing so fast you can’t see what’s actually happening. It’s shot like a real movie. Go see it, but remember, it is a Tarantino film…there will be blood.
rconn23 August 30th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The violence is intense, but the dialogue, I thought was tremendous – as it typically is in Tarantino’s films.
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I heard Tarantino depicts Hitler as a die-hard Red Sox fan.
*fast-paced
Hey tough guys stick to talking about baseball or have the decency to not give away the ending to the movie.
“Well at least that makes sense! Unlike the correct pronunciation of “Worcester””
Go figure!
I guess you just find out how the locals pronounce it and go with it. There are some cities and towns, especially in California, whose names puzzle me. Florida also. So I give them a certain pronounciation and then hear them pronounced and totally had it wrong.
Here’s one (not in either of those states). Wilkes Barre. I always called it Wilks Bar. Not so! Want to tell me how to get “berry” out of Barre? At least “beret” I could understand.
UPDATE, 12:03 p.m.: Via Mike Ashmore comes news that Dellin Betances has had Tommy John surgery. The Yankees must get a group rate from Dr. Andrews.
So add Betances to the list of pitching prospects who have had setbacks of one form or another. That group includes Andrew Brackman, Ian Kennedy, Alan Horne, Chris Garcia, etc. That’s why teams gather so many, the odds are against these guys from the start.
Joba won’t have command of the strike zone like Mitre did yesterday but the Yankees will win.
I saw Inglorius Basterds last night and enjoyed it. Some of the scenes aren’t for the squemish, however.
Chris, I think it was SportsCenter then that I was watching and they did a HUGE thing on Jeter being in line for the MVP. Odd.
rconn23 August 30th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The violence is intense, but the dialogue, I thought was tremendous as it typically is in Tarantino’s films.
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I heard Tarantino depicts Hittler as a diehard Red Sox fan.
sad news for Betances.
“I saw Inglorius Basterds last night and enjoyed it. Some of the scenes aren’t for the squemish, however.”
Thanks for that information, truly. Because I am bothered by violence in movies. I am definitely squeamish. We were going to see it last week but never got to it. Now I’m happy that it worked out that way. Not a movie for me.
Speaking of entitled to opinions……
I think that Jeter bunting yesterday was absolutely correct. As hot as he has been, there was a more than 50% chance he would make an out. It was also possible it would have been a DP (not because of his past history, it is just percentages). Given there were no outs at that time it was a great opportunity to put two more runs on the board and they did. It was also possible becase Jeter is a great bunter and W Sox were not expecting it. Even if it did not work out, it was one of the possible good options.
“I heard Tarantino depicts Hittler as a diehard Red Sox fan.”
Methinks these kids are throwing far too hard.
The problem with baseball stats is that they are too simplistic. Take Jeter’s bunt which the keyboard warriors are questioning. The bunt moved the runners to second and third. At that point because of the score the other team had to bring the infield in. This in turn increases the odds of a grounder going through for a single by something like fifty percent. The previous two games the Yankees scored 2 runs per game, there were no sacrifices. Sometimes things really are as they seem.
Will people get over the bunt already!!!!!!
Top 6 reasons I love Joe Girardi:
I love being 33 games over 500.
I love that Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
I love Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
I love that Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
I love that Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
I love that he’s Italian. Okay okay, that one was weak.
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Anyone have any to add?
That movie definitely has a “target audience”. That audience is people who don’t hate Tarantino movies, which is why I will not be seeing it.
“Will people get over the bunt already!!!!!!”
They can’t! What would they complain about. Mitre pitched well. They weren’t prepared for that.
Bo Knows:
First you make mention of the “keyboard warriors” and then say that bringing the infield in increases chances by 50%.
In fact, historically, 2nd and 3rd with 1 out does not give you much more of a chance to score than 1st and 2nd with no outs.
Yes, there are times you do want to take that chance (very late in a game when you need ONE run). But not early in the game and not with one of your best hitters up.
If you announce to the world that you are limiting Joba, why wouldn’t the opposing team sit on a lot of pitches to get him out of the game sooner? I remember that happening last time he was on a limit (maybe w/ Toronto)
Trisha- I love that he is such a family man
“I’m a Tarantino fan, but I was expecting not to not like “Inglorious Basterds”.
However, I must say I was pleasantly surprised. It’s a Spaghetti Western set in World War II Nazi-occupied France.
If you’re looking for historical accuracy, you won’t get it here. But everyone knows that going in.
The violence is intense, but the dialogue, I thought was tremendous – as it typically is in Tarantino’s films.”
Agreed, it my become my favorite Tarantino film depending on future viewings of it.
YES pre-game Clubhouse Report with Nancy Newman and Kim Jones:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64883997f25b308a/
>If you announce to the world that you are limiting Joba,
>why wouldn’t the opposing team sit on a lot of pitches
>to get him out of the game sooner?
Simple. Joba has to master this thing called “throwing strikes”.
From Melky’s Q&A in the Post:
Q: The main reason for your success this season?
A: Joe Girardi. Joe has just given me the confidence that I needed to do what I have to do.
I didn’t like that movie either. Guess I’m an idiot too, lol. I can handle that. Bite me, Mike.
District 9 which I saw last night was at least interesting.
“Just a low-level bit of information. Pawtucket is pronounced pa-tuh-kit. The reason I mention that is because just about every broadcaster, including some from fenway, refer to it as PAW-tuh-kit.”
Main Entry: Paw·tuck·et
Pronunciation: \p?-?t?-k?t, p?-\ http://www.merriam-webster.com...../pawtucket
Pawtucket (putuk’ut)- infoplease
Paw?tuck?et??[paw-TUHK-it) dictiionary.com
In Algonquian, “petuket” (similar to standard Rhode Island pronunciation of the city’s name today, accent on the second syllable) means “waterfalls.” – fodors
Dictionary: Paw·tuck·et (pô-t?k’?t, p? – answers.com
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now there seems to be a discrepancy from someone who lives there with some of the dictionaries and on line sources.
so who should we go by?
i would guess local knowledge of someone who actually lives there would trump expert knowledge of someone who doesn’t.
of course i’m a believer that people who have experienced something first hand usually know something about what they experience so i’m tending to go with what the local person says.
my only concern is that since” pawtucket” is an indian name maybe the locals now pronounce it incorrectly from the indian usage.
so which “local” do we go by, the indians who started the word or the present locals who inherited it?
Joba Chamberlain analysis with Michael Kay and Al Leiter:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6488419497b0d491/
(Kate, I’m adding that one.)
REASONS TO LOVE JOE GIRARDI:
Being 33 games over 500.
Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
Joe is totally devoted to his family.
Looking at those pictures from the link about Arod etc, playing stickball….
One thing I didn’t realize…Sergio Mitre is a big dude. In the picture he’s taller than ARod.
I can’t think of one Tarantino movie that doesn’t have at least parts that are incredibly violent. I’ve got no problem with it, but I just always thought that was a hallmark of his movies from Reservoir Dogs onwards, whether he’s writer, director or executive producer. The two CSI episodes he did might be the two least violent things of his I’ve seen, lol.
REASONS TO LOVE JOE GIRARDI:
Being 33 games over 500.
Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
Joe is totally devoted to his family.
Joe’s ability to show confidence in his players such that it helps them to succeed.
LOL it took till August for GI Joe/Yanks to realize we’re not telling the press how many innings he’s going to go.
Al Lieter: This is gonna be fun to watch.
I don’t do violence. I didn’t see Clint Eastwood’s latest movie for that reason despite hearing it was an excellent movie. I just don’t like it. If I’ve gone to movies that have a lot of violence I have to actually put my head down and ask when it’s okay to look. People who know me do it for me automatically. So if I know ahead of time it’s part of the movie (I’m not talking about one or two scenes where someone may get shot or something, but it isn’t graphic) I avoid it.
randy l,
When did the Native Americans bequeath the area in question?
REASONS TO LOVE JOE GIRARDI:
Being 33 games over 500.
Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
Joe is totally devoted to his family.
Joe’s ability to show confidence in his players such that it helps them to succeed.
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Wins most of the Guess the Line Up contests.
EricVA
Thank your for acknowledging that the bunt increases the odds of scoring one run. There was terrible ranting about Swisher’s feeble attempt at a bunt the other day at another website even with the above stats. But my point is, stats are probabilities, not Holy Writ. There are too many variables. Batting against a sinker baller the odds shift to a bunt, the hitter is not picking up the spin of the ball from a particular pitcher and so on. I’m not trying to convince anybody. Baseball people are pros, they make a living at it, they have access to sophisticated data and use it. If the percentages are against it, why would they do it?
Pete,
I come back to this site against my better judgment every now and then and always regret it. Thanks for spoiling Inglourious Basterds, which, you may be surprised to know, is not a documentary.
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Well Jeremy, if you had of listened to your *better* judgement and not come back, then the ending wouldn’t have been *spoiled* for you.
So you have no one to blame but yourself, do you?
Let’s simplify the rules on bunt analysis.
1. If said bunt works-great strategy
2. If said bunt fails-terrible strategy
“When did the Native Americans bequeath the area in question?”
m-
hold on for a minute while i look up what “bequeath” means?
it looks like one of those sissy words that gb7 doesn’t use.
i don’t want to give him ammo to rag on me.
I had to put my head down once or twice during District 9, lol.
m August 30th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Let’s simplify the rules on bunt analysis.
1. If said bunt works-great strategy
Well said m.
2. If said bunt fails-terrible strategy
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My posts don’t seem to be working…I guess I’m banned? Oh well…I guess that’s what happens on Yankee blogs run by a Red Sox and New England sports fan.
Off to riveraveblues. They at least are fans of the team they write about. Much better info there anyway.
trisha,
If you can find someone to filter the movie with you, you should definitely see Gran Torino.
Excellent movie. One of the best parts was the acting debut of the Asian neighbor kids. They had no prior experience and did a great job imo.
I guess the word idiot is banned, and not me. My mistake.
After King Philip’s War of 1675–1676….
^ Batting 1.000
NYY,
lol. That’s what it comes down to. Just like going for it on 4th & inches in your own territory.
Reasons to love Joe Girardi -
He doesn’t bat his best player 8th in an elimination playoff game.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bequeath
Main Entry: be·queath
Pronunciation: \bi-?kw?th, -?kw?th, b?-\
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English bequethen, from Old English becwethan, from be- + cwethan to say — more at quoth
Date: before 12th century
1 : to give or leave by will —used especially of personal property
2 : to hand down : transmit
— be·queath·al \-?kw?-th?l, -th?l\ noun
m-
i see your point. the locals might have stolen it. and if they did, should we go by what they being thieves call it ?
i’m still guessing gb7 would not use that word “bequeath” though.
lol, randy l. Good job.
I’m a little sensitive to the subject because I feel partly guilty for living on land that wasn’t bequeathed to the United States.
As to the “keyboard warriors”, to paraphrase Randy I “people with hands on experience tend to know more about the subject” Someone on a blog questioning Jeter about baseball decisions is funny.
>He doesn’t bat his best player 8th in an elimination playoff game.
He never got the chance.
Not that he would, though.
Mitre making a strong case to supplant Jobber as the #4 starter in October.
:/
The National sports guys talk soooo much $h*t. All they can talk about is Joba Rules….
they should find something else to harp on… come up with something original
Aaaaaaand here we go.
not too often do you see a guy get a triple on a chopper that hugs the 1st base line in yankee stadium
Not going to worry about that early run.
I think we can get to Freddy Krueger.
These “Joba Rules” are getting tiresome.
“Wins most of the Guess the Line Up contests.”
Angel, thanks for the heads-up on District 9.
Mel – my brother really loved Gran Torino.
You guys are lucky to get TBS. Since I’m in Chicago, I’m forced to suffer through a third straight day of Tango and Cash.
1st 5 pitches produced a run.They are going after him today.
Good inning by Joba. Threw strikes, and got outs. That triple was unlucky. He jammed him inside and he chopped it and Hinske was late on it in the corner
jeter is friggen insane right now.
jeter was always awesome, and then he stepped his game up.
Almost tied it up!
“1st 5 pitches produced a run.They are going after him today.”
thats not hard to do when you get a leadoff triple
They’re going to destroy Freddy Garcia today.
Have no fear.
Well, Joba rebounded nicely.
And how freakin’ good is Derek Jeter? The season he’s putting together is just ridiculous. I love Tex, but Jeter is the MVP.
Jeff, I just changed “doesn’t” to “wouldn’t” to avoid what would come if I didn’t.
I’ll just keep adding to these as long as you have them folks. Then some day I will send them to Joe Girardi with our regards.
REASONS TO LOVE JOE GIRARDI:
Being 33 games over 500.
Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
Joe is totally devoted to his family.
Joe wouldn’t bat his best player 8th in an elimination playoff game.
DJ has been on a role.
“You gotta have fun. Regardless of how you look at it, we’re playing a game. It’s a business, it’s our job, but I don’t think you can do well unless you’re having fun.” -Derek Jeter
He’s having fun, I bet.
The only reason that was a run was that Tex had to play in to guard against he drag bunt. Normal depth and that’s a play Tex makes.
Jeter is just insane right now. He’s EN FUEGO!
Jeez. Nice play by Dye.
GJ by Jetah.
Ho-ly Tex is good.
The Sox did not want to bequeath that run but Tex had other plans.
Bandbox fail!
We are going to rip up Garcia today. Jeter, Damon, and Tex have all been driving the ball already today.
Anyone keeping track of how many references the booth makes to the size of the stadium?
Well it took 10 pitches for the run, but that’s ok by me.
No one gets lower strikes called against him than Hideki. Not even Pedroia.
I really hate to see Pierzynski do anything good. As far as I’m concerned, there are few more detestable people in the game.
m-
you know me, always trying to stir the pot
“Someone on a blog questioning Jeter about baseball decisions is funny.”
bo knows-
the whole thing of actual experience vs watching a lot vs being statistically adept is not an easy issue because sometimes you really do get dumb baseball players that even the casual fan knows doesn’t do the right thing.
and some statistical analysis people are so smart that they do know things abut the game that people who play it don’t.
in jeter’s case he has a world of experience at the highest of levels and on top of it he’s not just intellectually smart, he’s emotionally smart. just a very bright guy.
so when jeter does something, i think it’s safe to say he knows what he’s doing.
…unless of course someone watches really a lot of tv in high definition and then maybe they know more
That’s ok Arod you guys answered the run.
Ahol
“That’s ok Arod you guys answered the run.”
beat him w/ a stick
16 pitches in 2 innings?
This is odd, Joba is being economical. Weird
Micheal Kay is making listening to baseball game so unbearable. STFU about how many pitches or innings already. Clue us in when it happens or someone starts warming up not every batter.
Go Joba fight back man, a 6 pitch inning.
So now Ralphie, the question is whether Joba goes deep into the game if he keeps this up!
I would think so.
And this is an example of why blindly following innings limits are silly. It has to be more specific than that because not all innings are built the same.
Joba couldn’t have had an easier two innings than these two.
Is that more wear on his arm than the 45 pitch single inning he threw last time out or less?
Are they equal?
I don’t know the right combination but I’d guess the combo would have to do with total pitches and high pressure pitches. Not just innings.
“So now Ralphie, the question is whether Joba goes deep into the game if he keeps this up!
I would think so.”
thats the question no one knows except girardi and eiland
“This is odd, Joba is being economical. Weird”
Trevor could be entirely psychological since he knows his pitches are being counted. Interesting watch.
Kay’s just proving my point on the air. He doesn’t get it because they are not looking at it the right way. Hopefully the Yankees are.
It’s ridiculous that Joe factors inning count over pitch count.
This is why I “love” Michael Kay.
He asks all the tough questions. Riveting stuff.
Pete,
Isn’t it amazing that people can watch baseball all these years and still not know that starting pitching is the coin of the realm.
When you get a potential big starter you take care of him because you never know when the next one will come along.
Saw the Tarentino movie. Have no idea what I think about it.
Very strange.
That “Hip Hip” gets annoying after a while.
At this point, I’d rather institute a ban on the “Hip hip Jorge” chant over YMCA or Cotton Eyed Joe.
Trisha
Or it could be that the White Sox are an overly aggressive team and Joba’s throwing strikes.
Is Joba on a pitch count?
If so, then he may be motivated to pound the zone so he gets a chance to be in line for a win.
Do you think Leiter, Cone, Paulie etc. all draw straws to decide who gets to work alone with Kay?
“Trisha
Or it could be that the White Sox are an overly aggressive team and Joba’s throwing strikes.”
That too. The end result is going to be interesting to watch (innings v. pitches)
Am I the only one going nuts over this Joba thing, so he goes into the playoff after a series of 3 and 4 inning stints and then has to pitch maybe 6 or 7? The guy has been pitching his whole life and needs to be pampered like this? Can’t wait to see the Yanks in the game and then the dreaded middle relief shows up to try to win it.
Wow. Robbie is just so slow out of the box.
It took Joba only 15 pitches for 2 innings,Garcia has 30.
“Do you think Leiter, Cone, Paulie etc. all draw straws to decide who gets to work alone with Kay?”
LOL!
Wow. Robbie is just so slow out of the box
One of his no hustle days, he could have 5-10 more basehits during the year if he just ran hard
Anyone logging in from the big party in Scranton and can let us know how it’s going?
“Do you think Leiter, Cone, Paulie etc. all draw straws to decide who gets to work alone with Kay?”
Don’t always agree with him but he usually calls it straight. He’s not afraid to say the unpopular thing. The other guys are just so political always mincing their words especially when Torre was around.
“Am I the only one going nuts over this Joba thing, so he goes into the playoff after a series of 3 and 4 inning stints and then has to pitch maybe 6 or 7? The guy has been pitching his whole life and needs to be pampered like this? Can’t wait to see the Yanks in the game and then the dreaded middle relief shows up to try to win it.”
they said there going to build him back up to 6 innings by the end of sept..
Anybody trust Joba yet ?
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!!!”
August 30th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
sad news for Betances.
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Brandon, I mentioned to you early this spring to not be surprised that Betances would have the surgery. He’s been having elbow issues since last year. The only surprise was that they waited this long.
Johnny D. August 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
It’s ridiculous that Joe factors inning count over pitch count.
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It’s ridiculous for people to think that the limits on Joba are all Girardi’s doing.
Besides, I’ve heard and read several times that the innings limit isn’t set in stone. There are other factors involved, like pitch counts.
the hip hip jorge chant is one of the more annoying things that goes on every game. Very unnecessary for the chant to go on every single ab of his for the entire ab.
RalphieD (OPPC)
Watching him get into trouble, perhaps all the innings talk will be premature
ROBBY!
Cano with the hustle!
Cano looks like he is taking the afternoon off today
HUGE break there. Joba looks less-than-stellar this inning, and they just gifted us that out.
Chi Town is playing small ball,they are manufacturing runs.Ozzie’s been watching La Russa,the king of small ball.
Joe’s going to need to be creative too.
They aren’t exactly crushing this pitches.
That’s a bad job by Posada. If you’re gonna pitch out three times in one AB, you HAVE to make a better throw than that.
These are times I wish we had Molina out there. He is so quick getting the ball to the base.
JMO
They seem to be putting a bat on everything Joba’s throwing….
I’ll say it was a hugh break could have been 2nd and 3rd with one out, now he has a shot of getting out of the inning
Pov
August 30th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Cano looks like he is taking the afternoon off today
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I assume that you didn’t get all of the intelligence in your family.
Gigi I think he is concentrating on getting the ball over the plate to keep down the walks. Maybe letting them hit it more and letting the defense get into the game is better than all these free passes.
lol, they were expecting a slider there. Foiled!
“thats the question no one knows except girardi and eiland”
they have to keep something to themselves or they are giving the opposition info they could use.
that was some good pitch sequence right there
changeup away
fastball up and in
fastball outside corner (prbly a ball though)
Pouring here in Rochester, it has been that kind of a year.
“they have to keep something to themselves or they are giving the opposition info they could use.”
exactly..i didnt mean it any other way
Joba was a much better starter last year. Only 12 starts but still.
His stuff was much more electric. I just hope this is just an off year somewhat. and his stuff comes back next year.
Right now I’m not impressed.
Small ball is effective,four pick off attempts,ans the guy still stole second. 19 pitches plus a run.
Going Yard is awesome,small ball is a sneaky slap.
Wow the Sox are a complete mess.
Wakefield scratched AND Tazawa optioned to the GCL.
Randy I
Top Marks for Tap Dancing
To quote Billy Martin “I have strong feelings both ways”
Broke me right up, Thanks. I know “Giggles are unmanly”, snicker.
fenway crapkickers ahead already. Who do you go to when the Doc’s the one who’s ill?
Does anyone else think this is friggin ridiculous and not going to work. They are going to destroy joba.
I guess it’s three innings, fighting for pennant and home field and in September we are doing this crap.
Ryan, yes I’ve said it three times this afternoon.
Jeter is automatic.
Melky has hit the wall…….
jeter is just a machine…i have never seen anything like this…
JOHNNY D!!!!!
GET ‘EM BOYS!!!!!!!
ssssseeee ya
JD!!!!
Trisha, they are a better team now with Wakefield back, Dice K coming and the pickup of Victor Marteniz. Couple that with Kazmir going to the LAA and these teams are improving themselves.
Great Blast by Damon!!!
“Does anyone else think this is friggin ridiculous and not going to work. They are going to destroy joba.”
no…destroying joba would be letting him pitch every 5 days the whole year with no innings limit…THAT would be detrimental
Johnny really likes that deck.
That’s what I’m talkin about baby,slap them back with runs!
D A M O N ~
what’s with the homer siren? Yesterday was the first time I’ve heard them, or noticed them? Man, that’s cheesy… Is it new?
Ryan and POV, here’s the main reason I don’t agree with you two. I’ve learned that the Yankee organization knows a lot more than all of us here do and has information at its fingertips that we might not be thinking of. So when they do something, I always trust they know what they are doing no matter how contrary it may seem to the layperson’s reason. And since that’s what we are, I will always go with the organization’s take.
Because of that I seldom bother going nuts.
Not a bad way to live!
They’ve had the HR siren for a few years now.
POV… Wakefield re-injured his back
Wow Derek. Just wow. He’s an incredible player becoming even more, well, incredible. And Johnny D moving him over, Yankee style. It’s quite a 1-2 punch: two outstanding leadoff/#2 hitters on one team. Gotta love it.
Todd,
Yanks need a long term solution for center field, I don’t think Melky is it. Your center fielder (remember the names Rivers, Mantle,Murcer, Bernie to name a few) is a big piece of your offense.
“Trisha, they are a better team now with Wakefield back, Dice K coming and the pickup of Victor Marteniz. Couple that with Kazmir going to the LAA and these teams are improving themselves.”
Pov – Wakefield is out of the rotation again. Beckett hasn’t been pitching well and he is their ace. We hear that DiceK is coming back but we can’t be sure. Plus even if he does, who knows what DiceK comes back.
I agree with Miggs. They’re a mess.
Freddy Garcia’s Nightmare on River Avenue.
Middle relief has arrived.
Ace pitching now, baby Joba must be getting his diaper changed……
Dutch Hugo
I said the same thing yesterday. I don’t like it.
Pov
August 30th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Trisha, they are a better team now with Wakefield back, Dice K coming and the pickup of Victor Marteniz. Couple that with Kazmir going to the LAA and these teams are improving themselves.
except wakefield is gone again and paul byrd is starting
Really? Wow. I must have blocked it out…
At least it’s not the Rangers. They’ve got the cheesiest homer “celebration” in baseball. Ridiculous, swelling music and fireworks going off for solo homers when they’re down 10-1.
Really? Already?
Are they serious with Taking Joba out this early??
I’m still convinced his relationship with Minka Kelly has added a bit of zest to his entire life.
Miggs
You know somewhere Penny and Smoltz are lol!
If Paul Byrd beats Halladay today, Jim Pir-One is going to give himself a stroke.
Might not be a bad thing.
Isn’t Paul Byrd a juicer??????
Melancon is definitely getting a callup
Guys – he’s out of the game. Just trust that the guys being paid a ton of money know what they’re doing.
3 innings? Oi. I guess it is an innings count.
Do we love Aceves or what?
We’d also love it if you didn’t walk Dye.
Trisha, I hate Boston, but trust me they are not a mess. If the Yanks go south here at all they will be breathing on our backs.
Next year will be the “Phil Rules”. As the Joba Rules go bye bye.
Did anyone read Pete’s intro ?????? ….
“Don’t be surprised if Joba Chamberlain only pitches three or four innings today. The Yankees plan to restrict his innings now and then build him back up near the end of the season. Chamberlain has pitched poorly of late, going 1-2 with an 8.55 ERA in his last four starts.”
They’re trying to rest him and build arm strength at the same time, lengthening him towards the end of the season so he can pitch a full game come the post season. It’s their new plan.
Trisha:
They let him pitch 3 innings. He was not pitching bad at all, pitch count was down, and his velocity was up. Why would they only let him go that little amount of time if they are trying to make this guy an ace?
I understand the tweaked Joba rules but I expected them to be ATLEAST 5. Maybe 4. This is ridiculous.
“Yanks need a long term solution for center field, I don’t think Melky is it. Your center fielder (remember the names Rivers, Mantle,Murcer, Bernie to name a few) is a big piece of your offense.”
the yankees have big pieces of their offense all over the field…they dont need Mantle 2.0 in CF…but i do agree melky is not the answer….the melky/gardner platoon worked very well this year before gardner got hurt..
Jeter & Damon make a great 1-2 combo.
Damon doing his part to make sure that continues in ’10.
9 pitches and ACE has left the mound,ladies and gents!
Joba has been so inconsistent this year it’s both puzzling and frustrating. One game he throws 96, the next game 91. I’ll chalk it up to youth for the rest of the year and see what happens next year. The Yankees have a big lead, they can afford to give him the rest of the regular season to work this stuff out and see if he is the right one to be the #4 starter in the post-season. He would only need to pitch 2 games at most so whether he starts or someone else it most likely won’t make that much of a difference if CC, AJ, and Andy are ready and pitching to their season stats.
If we had 5 prominent starters, mthen we could sit back and say Boston is a mess. They have 2 prominent starters, we have 2.5-4 prominent starters depending on who shows up that day.
Trevor,
Let’s hope the Phil Rules are only limited to a season IP limit.
The Red Sox are not a “mess”. Enough with that.
Their starting Paul Byrd and Tazawa. We’re starting Gaudin and Mitre.
Six on one hand, half a dozen on the other.
If they were a mess, they wouldn’t be leading the wild card.
Does Paul Byrd even have a fastball??????????/
Pov, we will agree to disagree. They are playing with a hand-stiched team and coming apart at the seams. It’s your pitching that wins championships. Their pitching is a mess. They are looking for band-aid solutions at this point and we all know how far that gets you.
Start of the season
Beckett
Lester
Penny
DiceK
Wakefield
Currently
Beckett
Lester
OK so looking back to JOBA BOOK #1, what made him so special as to think he could be the know all, end all of the Yanks. He had some great relief innings but one inning per game only. We’ve never really seen his long game, or complete perfection….I don’t get why he gets to be babied and others get sent down, etc.
Trisha, I trust the brain trust being paid tons of money less than Joba. After this decade of failures you have to wonder about the quality of the front office.
“They let him pitch 3 innings. He was not pitching bad at all, pitch count was down, and his velocity was up. Why would they only let him go that little amount of time if they are trying to make this guy an ace? ”
there is no perfect way to go about this..joba is a unique case due to his minimal minor league experience and his rushing to the big leagues…theres no blue print they could have followed.
Gigi,
Be prepared for the backlash!
“Their starting Paul Byrd and Tazawa”
Tazawa’s gone. Try again.
If you’re going to assess the team, know what the team has going on.
anyone else having freezes and skips on the YES network the past few days? I’m watching just on the regular cable feed. Doesn’t seem to be happening on other channels.
“there is no perfect way to go about this..joba is a unique case due to his minimal minor league experience and his rushing to the big leagues…theres no blue print they could have followed.”
RalphieD:
I understand this. Trust me. I know there is no formula to this and, you know, In the end it might work out for the benefit of Joba.
But 3 innings??
backlash!
Hey, I’m a Yankee fan like all the rest….DIEHARD!! But really, don’t you think a guy like Hughes might be calling Joba a big puss for getting his but wiped every day?
BOS 2-0
If you think about it makes sense.
3 now
4 next
5 followed
6
7
8 last regular season start?
Maybe that’s what there hoping for?
Would there have been any difference in letting Aceves start the first 3 then bring in Joba for the next 3?
Bring him in a higher pressured situation and having him go three might help me him even more.
“Joba Rules”??? I prefer “Rags’ Rules”! Matt Cain, who is one year his senior, had 217 IP last year, and 177 this year to date; Tim Lincecum, 3 1/2 months Cain’s senior, had 265 IP last year and a major league leading 177 this year. It’s not age or experience; it’s paranoia, and the reluctance to “be wrong” regarding Joba’s potential.
Irrepective of the reason, the so-called rules are disruptive to the staff, specifically, and the team in general. His performances to date do not warrant the “Anti-Torre” coddling. Deal with who Chamberlain really is and what he is, and stick him back in the pen to sink or swim. If his success in the pen in 07 was a flash in the pan so be it. Better yet, make Rags a proposal that he would have difficulty refusing.
“These are times I wish we had Molina out there. He is so quick getting the ball to the base.
JMO”
that seems to be at odds with girardi’s opinion because he puts posada out there whenever he can.
ARod with the Jedi mind trick!
Yooou do not want to throw to first…
My dad compared this team to the Big Red Machine wierd but he saids the offense on this team is better.
Al, must be stuck in Kate Hudson hangover sex land b/c he’s looked like Swishy on the bases today.
Gigi,
LOL. I said the same thing last week and got all kinds of grief.
From Joba’s the best starting pitcher the Yankees have produced in the last 20 years to there’s nobody to replace him.
Joba-the Rubick’s Cube of pitching.
It’ll all work out. But the movie won’t be as good as everyone raved about.
Pov, again I trust them a ton. I don’t know that I agree all Yankee failures are on the organization. Try on the players. And while scouts can tell you what to expect they can’t tell you who is going to melt in the Bronx. Sure there might have been some bad calls but the majority were good calls when they were made. Or every other team wouldn’t have been scouting the same guys.
There will always be mistakes. Most of them aren’t.
What I can tell you from observing the comments on this blog and then watching outcomes, a good portion of this blog works on raw emotion and nothing else. We have more pitch-by-pitch arm-chair managers than I have ever seen assembled in one place. And the manager’s here tend to end up being wrong by the end of the game.
this fixation on the Red Sox by so many of you is utterly ridiculous, do you realize that?
In order for them to face the Yankees in the ALCS they first have to make the playoffs as the Wild Card (they aren’t coming from 6 back against THIS Yankees team unless they win almost every game, including the ones on the road) and beat the Angels in the ALDS. And then, after all that, they would play the Yankees who have dominated them in the 2nd half.
I could understand if this was mid September and the teams were tied or very close, but don’t you realize that there are 35 games left and the Yankees are way ahead?
Well, I do like Joba, (especially in the pen) but you can’t tell me that teammates don’t feel the pedestal with white glove-handling. Even down to high school, NO ONE likes the favoring among teammates.
Maybe that should be: Joba: The “Inglorious Basterds” of pitching.
The attention that the “Joba Rules” is getting is ridiculous. Nowhere else in baseball would a pitcher get the attention that he is here.
Of course, nowhere else in baseball would a pitcher be handled the way that he has been handled. The team is way too invested in Chamberlain, has anybody seen anything like this?
Trisha,
You’re missing my point. It’s the quality of the starters I’m talking about.
There is little difference between the four pitchers I mentioned. Back of the rotation fodder – if that.
If Wakefield is out for the season, then there would be a concern.
The New York Mets. That’s a mess. A team that’s going to likely make the playoffs is not.
And I know exactly what’s going on.
what is a “little slider”? or a “little cutter”? What makes a pitch “little”?
Both Leiter and Flaherty (the 2 commentators the hardest to listen to) use these terms all the time. Actually, Flaherty calls almost everything “little”–everything happens by “a little bit.”
rconn – I think when we refer to the Sux as a mess we are talking to what is happening to it every day with injuries and things not working out. They are a mess.
Gee Trish, Pavano, Kevin Brown, Wilson Bennime, Igawa on and on I guess I was watching the wrong team for the past 7 or so years.
Or maybe it would be better to say they are IN a mess.
I think that’s what we are saying here.
Cano’s risp,sigh…Garcia’s @ 62 pitches.
Hey Pov, not to mention Weaver!!
everybody knew joba was going to be handle cautiously going into this year…there is no way to turn a pitcher into a starter in the major leagues with a smooth transition…you cant go from 100 innings pitched to 200 innings..people act like only joba would be treated like this…if hughes was put in the same situation as joba from the beginning then it would be the same with him
” So when they do something, I always trust they know what they are doing no matter how contrary it may seem to the layperson’s reason.”
.. like with posada?
Trish, I think your in denial of sorts, they are in no mess, Bukholtz was lights out yesterday and to be sure Beckett will be the money pitcher he has been in the playoffs. Beckettm Lester, Wakefield, and Buckholtz isn’t something you want to see in a 5-7 game series.
John Lester stayed in the next building to me during Spring training in Florida. Got to meet him and his wife a few times over the 2 months. He is the real deal.
haiku-man
August 30th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Cano’s risp,sigh…Garcia’s @ 62 pitches.
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I realize that Cano has hit a career high in homers, but, when did a runner on first become a runner in scoring position?
So pretty much every time Joba starts our bullpen is guaranteed of getting taxed… we have an extra starter on the staff for spot starts that’s what they are for… this is super lame strategy… why burn out the bullpen every fifth day…. pointless
Bottom line…Red Sox are always an achilles heel. They can come from behind just as easily as they can blow a lead. You just never know with them. I hate them!!
once again this blog is unreadable during a game. Reading comments by some of you would make me believe the Yankees are 20 games under .500 instead of having the best record in baseball. Everything the Yankees do sucks, every more by every other team is effing perfect. It just shows how little you complainers know about baseball.
Ace 2 innings 17 pitches,no runs!
“Actually, Flaherty calls almost everything “little”–everything happens by “a little bit.””
the guy i like listening to is francona. he always says “kinda” ” sorta” as in ” his bone was kinda sorta sticking out a little, but if we kinda maybe sorta treat him for a few days maybe he can kinda play a little-maybe “
I gotta tell you guys, I’m getting pretty sick of this garbage! If Joba Chambberlain’s arm isn’t strong enough to go more then 3 INNINGS?? then he shouldn’t be a starting pitcher. If he’s still on “Joba Rules” 3 seasons into his career, he shouldn’t be a starting pitcher. I can drool over a 7th-8th-9th of Joba-Hughes-Mariano, and when Mo retires then one of them takes over as the closer. Sign Bad Penny and put an end to this farce of Joba being a “starting” pitcher because clearly he’s not. He’s not even very good when he does start anyway.
And while I’m on the subject of pitching, I think Girardi is the WORST manager I’ve ever seen when it comes to handling a pitching staff. I can’t go 3 games without going crazy over another stupid pitching decision this guy has made. If he manages this way in the playoffs, the Yankees will be out in the first round. I can’t see them beating the Angels, Tigers, or any of the wild card contenders if they can’t get 5 innings out of their starting pitcher. He leaves CC and AJ out there till their arms fall off and they blow the lead, but everyone else gets 30 pitches to make 27 outs. It’s absurd. I have a headache.
Someone wake me when the Yankees hire a real manager.
Some of the comments today are particularly special…the bullpen won’t be overtaxed, WS – roster expansion is imminent. So relax, special people of LoHud.
No need to be negative today… we have the best team in baseball. Sad that some can’t appreciate the good times.
Hey MG, You might want to find a better blog with more MLB intelligence. We certainly have nothing to say that you don’t already know everything about. BTW you whining is annoying.
“Gee Trish, Pavano, Kevin Brown, Wilson Bennime, Igawa on and on I guess I was watching the wrong team for the past 7 or so years.”
When the Yankees got Brown it was a very thin pitching market. And he was gotten to shore up the back of the rotation since nobody expected Contreras to be a wash and Vasquez not to work out. Surely you’re not going to talk about bench players and worry. Wilson Betemit? And Pavano. There were at least four other teams salivating to have Pavano and he chose the Yankees.
Igawa – I’ll give you.
Let me put it this way. For every “mistake” you point out I am sure that I can point out a lot more that weren’t.
If you are a blog crybaby then you are. I don’t know whether you are or not but I don’t tend to get lost in the weeds because I know how to keep my eyes on the big picture. So I don’t tend to have a lot of tolerance for people who worry and complain over everything. Especially when the team is 33 games over 500 with the best record in the majors.
I know I don’t know more than the organization. If you do, then bully for you.
“Someone wake me when the Yankees hire a real manager.”
Nah, let’s keep you asleep – you’re being ugly.
I thought Hinske’s stats were favorable against Garcia,what up with that?
One thing most winning teams have is a lot of guys who can be considered vital, integral or the most important players on their team.
Aceves is one of those guys on this team. He’s just so important and has been so good for us…
“No need to be negative today… we have the best team in baseball. Sad that some can’t appreciate the good times.”
Hear hear!
i think the red sox pitching is in trouble, but the yankees are one injury away from trouble too.
the end of the year is going to be all about who’s healthy.
wakefield being hurt again is a real problem for them.
MG, we are Americans and I guess we can’t help complaining. but I think most of it is back and forth in a good natured thought starting way. I know our President wants to make us all Europeans where we turn the cheek the other way and stick our head in the sand, but Yankee Fans just speak what is on their mind.
BOS 3-0
Oh Pov – I knew you were extra special! Pete, do something when you get back!
we are Americans and I guess we can’t help complaining
That’s right POV. Not complaining, we are just discussing….Isn’t that what this blog is for?
uhhhhhh aceves isn’t a AAA scrub called up to absorb innings. When that happens, i’ll shut up.
“Trish, I think your in denial of sorts, they are in no mess, Bukholtz was lights out yesterday and to be sure Beckett will be the money pitcher he has been in the playoffs. Beckettm Lester, Wakefield, and Buckholtz isn’t something you want to see in a 5-7 game series.”
pov I think you probably are still in 2004 shock. I never was and never will be.
You just keep letting those beantown boys stay in your head. I’ll just keep enjoying the Yanks.
Hey – are you a Sux fan? Interesting you’d be closer to the Sux in spring training.
I THINK YOU MAY BE A TROLL!!!
If you’re not, I apologize for thinking it. It’s just that you seem to have such a glass jaw. And then you mention being near Lester in ST when Yanks ST is nowhere near the Sux’s.
Good job!
“And while I’m on the subject of pitching, I think Girardi is the WORST manager I’ve ever seen when it comes to handling a pitching staff.” – Paul from Cali
There are people on this page that would contend that Joe T. still holds that title…
I think that Joe G has too many voices in his ear, and he ends up overmanaging himself out of situations at times.
Hey, is anybody else annoyed by the TBS announcer who’s not Ron Darling – is it Chip Carey? – voice cracking? Sounds like a 13 year old is in the booth.
I wonder if “Enough” will have had enough when the Yanks get drummed out of the playoffs 3-0?
Man is Toronto going to give Halladay any tun support today?
“Oh Pov – I knew you were extra special! Pete, do something when you get back!”
I’m thinking you may be right.
Good attitude, Paul from Cali – you’re a real winner!
GGBG
August 30th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Aceves is one of those guys on this team. He’s just so important and has been so good for us…
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Well said! Hopefully he doesn’t tweak whatever may or may not possibly be wrong with his shoulder stretching out covering J Chamberlain today.
5-4-3 BEAUTIFUL!
Man alive we have a beautiful infield.
Robby is a GG already.
wow…that is a great dp right there…haha aceves is pumped lol
I think Jeter must have taken ballet lessons as a kid….so graceful.
lol @ Enough… guy can’t let a single comment he doesn’t care for go by without griping and complaining about it… What a miserable, irritable fool
Uh uh, WS – I’m a nice girl who can’t stand your BS. I don’t understand the negativity and I can’t help but comment on it. And yes, your misery irritates me.
“Could this be the injury bug beginning to effect the Yanks? Maybe! He He He”
Umm no it hit his left arm. He He He
Ace is smokin hot.Ozzie better stop having the batter slap the ball back at the pitcher.I know Chi Town dirty ball too.
That DP was worth the price of admission
The Blue Jays really suck. They can’t even hit Paul Byrd, the guy from Frasier. They mailed this series in and caved to the Red Sox as usual.
“Someone wake me when the Yankees hire a real manager.”
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aren’t the Yankees 33 games over .500?
not that I have to defend myself, but you don’t know half of what I post on here… I don’t always use this name… I complain about Joba’s program one time, I have posted tons of comments on here, probably much more positive than negative…. but thank you for proving my point about u
“aren’t the Yankees 33 games over .500?”
Yeah wouldn’t that be great. He’s talking a REAL manager. The Yankees are nowhere near 33 games over .500…oh wait
No need to be defensive, WS… you are who you are and you can’t help yourself. I understand. Nevertheless, thank you for the explanation. All the best to you, Sunshine!
Bunny there are no major injuries on this team !
Why don’t you Sox fans worry about Texas instead of the Yankees because your team is not going to win the division.
BOS 4-0 lol
Jeter for MVP,there I said it.
Halladay must be deflated when he thought he was leaving Toronto,and then not.There’s no other reason for his lackluster performances lately.
Enough- don’t ever look into being a psychiatrist. or poker, or any profession where you have to read people. Because your “female intuition” is off.
RConn23,
Usually I agree with most of your posts. But you’re completely wrong on this one.
The Sox have DFA’d 2 starters (Smoltz and Penny).
They just sent their “young phenom” Tazawa to the GCL. Not AAA, to the GCL. Wakefiled was just scratched from his start because of recurring back problems.
That leaves them with Beckett (who has gotten shelled his last 3 starts), Lester (who IMO is overrated, he’s hardly a fearsome #2), Buccholtz, and Paul Byrd. Do they even have a 5th starter? Who’s it gonna be?
Id Dice-K ever coming back? Do they even want him back?
Stop drinking the Sox kool-Aid. They lead the wildcard. Woohoo!
They also have numerous holes in their rotation, an aging declining lineup, an inability to win on the road, and no bench.
Comparing the Sox rotation to the Yankees right now is laughable.
You’re comparing Mitre and Gaudin (Yankees 5th and 6th starters) to Byrd and Buccholtz (the Sox current 3 and 4 starters). Its just a joke.
You want to be fair: Compare Pettitte and Joba to Buccholtz and Byrd. Because right now they are their team’s respective 3 and 4 starters.
Red Sox trolls named Bunny and Gigi. Gotta love it.
bite me rconn, just keeping updates
Garcia has 96 pitches,not long before they use the pen.
Sawx4-0
“John Lester stayed in the next building to me during Spring training in Florida. Got to meet him and his wife a few times over the 2 months. He is the real deal”
Wow pov you met a real life baseball player? LOL. That makes him “the real deal”.
Some of you idiots crack me up.
People that know so little about the game of baseball should comment a lot less and watch some games so they have a clue what they’re talking about.
Have to get thru this inning with Marte…..
Cokey don’t look happy.
miggs
Try to be more polite.
Your drivel is annoying. The Yankees are winning in an close game, perhaps you could enjoy that and not have to attack the positive comments of others.
Robertson is now trusted by Joe late and tight. Far cry from earlier in the year.
Lets go Yankees!
Toronto is in the middle of an absolute freefall.
But it strikes fear in the hearts of the thin-skinned Yankee fans who are stuck in post-2004 mourning.
The Sox are supposed to win these games. Again, see how they do on their next road trip.
This isn’t the Manny, Schilling, Pedro Sox.
Its the Bay, Youk, Beckett Sox. And those Sox don’t scare or worry me in the least.
roberston not messing around..cya dye!
go yanks!
“Robertson is now trusted by Joe late and tight. Far cry from earlier in the year.”
he broke down mechanically last yr. & was worn down. This yr. he is the American Saito.
Pat M.
August 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Have to get thru this inning with Marte…..
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PAT M, have you been watching the job that Terry Crowley has done with Felix Pie in Baltimore over the last two months? Has him up to the mid-.270s and 7 homers with 23 RBI and extra base hits everywhere. What a transformation from last year and earlier this year.
what happened to pounding on fat freddy today? we got 4 hits through 6….
Vrsce,
I’ll say what I want when I want to say it. My comment had nothing to do with today’s game.
All my posts are accurate and fair. Sorry if by stating the truth I hurt your feelings. Go somewhere else or just don’t read my posts.
wow i never saw d-rob throw 96 before…gameday had it at 95.5
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 30th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Man alive we have a beautiful infield.
Robby is a GG already.
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as good as it is the OF (D)goes in the other direction & I hope the OF (D) won’t bite them in the ass in a big game
he still has some issues w/ the fastball this yr. is the first time I’ve seen it go 96 mph so he’s prbly learning to locate that now.
Miggs
Is it fair to be critical when someone mentions that he met Lester and was impressed by him?
You have a nasty streak and it is not pleasant. Defending that nastiness is laughable.
“as good as it is the OF (D)goes in the other direction & I hope the OF (D) won’t bite them in the ass in a big game”
Too bad we don’t have 3 Melkys for D.
good call bringing in hughes..
My Word, a Sawx team that hasn’t won for 86 yrs wins a couple,and now their fan base is all scared because the Yankees are leading the division and MLB.
You found out the 2 you won are tainted by your roiders (more than Manny and Ortiz),so you cheated and it’s coming back to bite you big time!
Pov August 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
MG, we are Americans and I guess we can’t help complaining.
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I know we’re seen this too many times but after reading this comment, I just couldn’t help it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZhys7Dg8YM
Kay shut up. So Joe wants to replace Robertson cause he only throws 94 with Hughes cause he throws 96? Okay gotcha……
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member and true believer in Ortiz karma. August 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
“as good as it is the OF (D)goes in the other direction & I hope the OF (D) won’t bite them in the ass in a big game”
Too bad we don’t have 3 Melkys for D.
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now that would be nice
hey pat m-
welcome to the cucko’s nest.
the blog is especially entertaining today.
when gigi’s are saying “bite me” to other posters you have to admit things are kind of funny.
Now this is in direct contrast to you who were having so much drama the other night about how Girardi “goes by the book.” That turns into a euphemism for Girardi not making the move you think he should, when you think he should. Why? Because Hughes is in during the 7th. He will replace Robertson. He saw no need to replace CC. BIG difference there.
HUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHEEESSSS!!!!!
What no socks and and white button shirt Alex?
I apologize for the “bite me” Randy….not usually my style. I just thought this blog was for Yankee fans. We might teach a little, we might learn a little. But what’s up with all the criticizing with some people. WE’RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM HERE AND SOME THINK WE’RE NOT???!!!
Yuussssse stop trying to Mariano this inning.
hugheeessss
YUUUUUUUUSSSSSE
SA-WEET!
Paul Byrd 3 hitting Toronto what a riot, does he get to pitch in the Tropicana this week?
Sox play well in half stadium wait until they get to Tampa Sept 1..
my fantasy baseball team is just like the Whitesox.
just Absolutely fading away.
Hughs and Ace on the same day? Phil got the out!
Bite me Randy
GreenBeret7
August 30th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Pat M.
August 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Have to get thru this inning with Marte…..
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PAT M, have you been watching the job that Terry Crowley has done with Felix Pie in Baltimore over the last two months? Has him up to the mid-.270s and 7 homers with 23 RBI and extra base hits everywhere. What a transformation from last year and earlier this year.
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Terry Crowley is a Staten Island boy, Curtis HS, I played against him many, many years ago…
Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup aka Clank )…..I refrain from the during game postings as of late, however The LoHud resembles a school playground as of late……GB, Crowley has dome a great job not only with Pie, but Jones as well…..Didn’t Terry have a coaching spot in the Yankee Organization at one time ?????
“bite me rconn”
Hmm, I’ve heard that Yankee fans were known to “eat their own,” this confirms it!
Bite me Tom in N.J.
Here’s another thought. At this time of year there are teams who are at different levels of baseball, both standings wise, and then in tandem, maybe psychologically. Toronto, once leading the division, is now 22 games out of first. It’s team has been stripped down a bit and Rios is no longer there. Doc was shopped around mightily. The team lost AJ and has pitching issues all season with Litsch, Marcum, and McGowan all on the DL.
Is it any surprise that maybe they haven’t been able to pull together what they need to defeat a team that is fighting for a wild card spot?
I don’t believe losing teams mail it in. I do believe that there are a lot of thing that go into the energy they may be able to bring to a game. And as the end of the season draws closer, you may see that more and more with potential contenders playing with a lot more adrenaline because they know they need to win. Other teams know their seasons are already over.
If you need an example of this kind of behavior, listen to teams who say they always get up more for Yankee games than for others.
So much of this is between the ears.
HA!
Ok, why did Joba throw only 35 pitches?
Miggs,
It’s one thing to not worry about the Red Sox. It’s another to say they are a mess, when they’re not.
As far as how the Red Sox rotation shakes out, who knows?
Beckett and Lester are the clear No. 1 and No.2. Beckett’s been great all year except for the last three starts. Is it the start of trend. Let’s hope, but neither you, I or anyone else knows the answer to that question.
Lester is a obviously a very good No.2.
If Wakefield is out for any length of time, that’s a big blow to the Red Sox. Again no one knows the answer to that.
Buchholz looked great last night, against an average lineup. He’s been up and down. So has Chamberlain.
Please don’t put Chamberlain on any kind of a pedestal right now. The guy is just getting his innings in right now.
Byrd’s up here for a spot start. He’s not in the conversation. At least not yet.
The pitching staffs for either team has not worked out exactly has planned. Do you think the Yankees counted on Wang having a double-digit ERA?
The Sox took a bad gambles on two rehab guys Smoltz and Penny. That’s a given.
The bottom line is the Red Sox like the Yankees, are going to make the playoffs.
As Billy Beane so accurately says, just get in the playoffs. From there it’s a crapshoot.
No team that makes the playoffs is a mess.
As long as the Yankees keep winning, that’s all that matters.
Win the division and let the Angels and Red Six battle it out.
MG
August 30th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
GreenBeret7
August 30th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Pat M.
August 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Have to get thru this inning with Marte…..
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PAT M, have you been watching the job that Terry Crowley has done with Felix Pie in Baltimore over the last two months? Has him up to the mid-.270s and 7 homers with 23 RBI and extra base hits everywhere. What a transformation from last year and earlier this year.
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Terry Crowley is a Staten Island boy, Curtis HS, I played against him many, many years ago…
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Afternoon, MG. Crowley is just an old time ball player that can teach hitting. I think he could even teach me. He’s done wonders with Jones, Pie and Scott, hasn’t he? If he’s fixed Pie permanently, Baltimore has a real talent to use or trade. I’ve always liked Pie, but, somewhere, it all went wrong for him.
Betsy they’re just conserving his innings right now.
We’ll probably see a few abbreviated starts from Joba.
nice melky
The Melkman delivers
Pat M.
August 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Randy I, ( The Original Tin Cup aka Clank )…..I refrain from the during game postings as of late, however The LoHud resembles a school playground as of late……GB, Crowley has dome a great job not only with Pie, but Jones as well…..Didn’t Terry have a coaching spot in the Yankee Organization at one time ?????
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Not sure about NYY, but, he was the hitting coach in San Diego. I always thought he would become a manager someplace.
Hard to believe that the Sox have a 4-0 lead with Byrd on the mound and Halladay pitching.. Toronto’s just about packed it in and Halladay has become pedestrian lately. Glad we kept our guys and didn’t trade for him.
It’d be nice if Melky would run right out of the box. Is that really too much to ask?
walking Jeter…..wussies!!
did damon get hurt?
Red Sox are fine for the duration of the regular season.
Their schedule is mostly filled with crap teams like Toronto and lots of home games. 13 of their last 17 are against teams under .500 (with the lone exception being a series at YS).
Even their road games are easy outside of Chicago— they have Baltimore, KC, etc.
They don’t need a strong rotation now that their offense has woken up… with their offense and bullpen, they can just out slug teams. They are in trouble in the playoffs though, but they should have minimal trouble getting there. I don’t think Texas is consistent enough.
What happen w/ Johnny?
Go get get’em Arsenio Hall Jr.
What happen w/ Johnny?
Go get get’em Arsenio Hall Jr.
Nice hit by Melky !
“It’d be nice if Melky would run right out of the box. Is that really too much to ask?”
I don’t think that he didn’t run right out of the box. I think the ball had enough of a bounce off the wall that it made the play closer than if it hadn’t.
’bout stinkin’ time !!!
Great hit !!!
…scary baserunning though
…slowed up after he got out of the box.
just figures.
It might be a good thing if the Sox make it to the playoffs because they can eliminate the Angels first round. The Yankees can get revenge for 2004 in a 2009 Yankees vs. Red Sox ALCS.
Hairston clutch!
Good hustle by Blart!!
Miguel Cairo wears Jerry Hairston Jr. PJs
GGBG
August 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
It’d be nice if Melky would run right out of the box. Is that really too much to ask?
why, so he and hinske could both be standing on 3rd?
JHJ – what a great pick-up.
Great acquisition…..doesn’t play enuf.
Bronx Jeers….I guess I don’t get it. They are going to tear Joba down (meaning reduce his innings/pitch counts) only to build him up again? I don’t like it……..
Love Aceves, but would swear that he’s throwing a spitter. We were watching on tv, taped it, and on the TBS broadcast in the 6th inning looks a lot like he has something greasy, shining on the right side of the bill of his cap that he keeps reaching for before pitching. If you have it taped, take a look after the 1-0 pitch to Carlos Quentin, Posada goes out and they chat; after Posada goes back, Aceves takes two swipes of his fingers against the shiny spot on the bill of his cap. Maybe he’s drying his fingers, but . . . Looks mighty suspicious on tape.
TEXXXXXXX!
They said Joba is going to be built back up from here and ready to throw 110 by the end of the season.
Only way they can accomplish that is to start at 30 pitches, then 50-55, then 70-75, then 90-100, etc.
Tex message
That Tex guy was a pretty good pickup!!!!
the potential MVP announces he’s here.
Tex is sick.
I fear no team. NO team.
101 rbi’s for tex!!! get those brooms out!
Wasn’t such a great pitching change – was it Ozzie ???
Rich August 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Mark Tiexiera will hit a home run this afternoon. Let’s go Yankees!!!! Put these sox in a box!
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There it is. That makes me happy both as a Yankee fan AND a fantasy team manager.
“Byrd’s up here for a spot start. He’s not in the conversation. At least not yet.”
RConn23 if he’s only up for a spot start then who IS in the rotation?
Dice-K is on the DL.
Penny is gone.
Smoltz is gone.
Wakefield is out indefinitely with a bad back.
Tazawa is in the GCL …LOL.
Who is in their starting rotation? Please tell me. You need 5 guys.
They have Beckett, Lester, Buccholz, and………
LMAO…look at tex’s eyes on that…that is soo cool
I’ve never seen Teix’s eyes get that big
lol @ Tex’s eyes as he devoured that pitch
Kay stupid lol.
Why would Ozzie take out a lefty lefty match up,why?
I didn’t see or hear Tex’s third at bat, but:
1st: Hit a ball to the corner that Dye caught crashing into the wall.
2nd: Hit a ball that Dye caught with his back to the wall.
3rd: ???
4th: Fat pitch ends up in the seats.
He just missed having 3 homers today.
They are putting Joba above the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mariano Rivera sheds another tear
his eyes were like a tracking device there…
Tex is so awesome………..He had an awful start in April, I told my Dad way back then that he’d be fine……..
It must suck for the Red Sox fans. Their team is winning everyday but the Yankees keep on winning so they can’t make up any ground.
Ozzie mailed it in.
1 run game, trying to avoid a sweep and he goes to Williams and Linebrink while his 3 best arms— Thorton, Jenks, and Dotel are toiling away in the pen.
Thank god Hughes was put in this game before it was blown open… otherwise he would have never pitched LOL
I guess the Yankees, in spite of Cano not hustling, Melky hitting the wall, Posada not being able to call a game behind the plate or throw anyone out, and a host of other ridiculously stupid comments are going to win another game.
82-48, best record in baseball, period.
“They are putting Joba above the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
How did that work out? 33 games over .500? Then let them put Joba above the team. Works for me!
Cramps for Damon.
Miggs,
You don’t need five guys. Not in the playoffs.
You think Sergio Mitre is going to start for the Yankees?
The way the playoffs are set up, you need three solid starters. The Yankees hopefully have that.
We don’t know yet if the Red Sox will, and won’t until the playoffs start.
Thanks Rob b for the recognition. I had a feeling Tex was going to hit a bomb today. I don’t know about you guys but I have a feeling this team is special!!!!
Damon: cramping in both calves. Kay just relayed on YES.
Nelson Figueroa – 4 IP, 9 Ks
i only watch gameday, it looked like girardi pinch hit for damon to force chisox to bring in a righty so that Tex would hit against a righty.
“I apologize for the “bite me” Randy….not usually my style.”
gigi, no apology necessary .i thought it was funny.
6 pitches nice
It’s a hot day at the stadium, so a cramp isn’t something you’re terribly surprised to see in one of the players. Hopefully he’ll be ready to go again tomorrow night.
rconn, you need 5 guys to get you there.
Yankeesfan, I just saw what you meant about Aceves. It does look wet but could possibly be his sweaty hand….weird that he touched it at that moment tho.
and as i am writing my post on this forum, i turn back to gameday and see hughes has thrown 6 pitches to get 3 outs. amazing.
“It’s a hot day at the stadium, so a cramp isn’t something you’re terribly surprised to see in one of the players. Hopefully he’ll be ready to go again tomorrow night.”
Easy to dehydrate on hot humid days. No biggie.
Hughes has absolutely nothing today. He had 4 chances for a strikeout and came up with zilch. Send him to Dr. Andrews, immediately.
Toronto is rolling over and playing dead to the 38 yr old Byrd.I think Halladay has no motivation,since their games don’t matter.Sawx 6-0
Teix before AB:
Teix getting ready:
Teix as he sees a hanger:
Mo as he sees ball over field:
Only 12 pitches for Phil Franchise.
Funny thing is, if he finishes the game, he gets a save.
“Nelson Figueroa – 4 IP, 9 Ks”
for some reason he owns the Cubs
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!!!” August 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Teix before AB:
Teix getting ready:
Teix as he sees a hanger:
Mo as he sees ball over field:
LOL
I think a spitball would have been detected long before this. On a very humid day my bet would be on sweat.
Solid play by Jorge……I know it looked easy, but that’s a tough play. especially with all the spin……That’s a play that get’s away from a catcher
Now Tex got 101 RBIs highest in the league.
He plays pehnomenal first base defensively.
He saved number of errors to all our infielders.
Unless Twins content for the division and Mauer gets it, I wonder how Tex will not be the MVP, inspite of what Rob Neyer says.
Wow Jays getting killed.
GB, I just bought a guide book on Savannah; I didn’t see your house listed under the tourist sites…..what’s up with that?
Hip Hip!!
GreenBeret7
August 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Hughes has absolutely nothing today. He had 4 chances for a strikeout and came up with zilch. Send him to Dr. Andrews, immediately.
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DFA him first, GB, 3 K’s in 7 batters this series is unacceptable to the LoHud cogniscenti…
I guess they want Joba available to start without worrying about limits come late Sept – October.
With Aceves and Gaudin in the pen, it’s a luxury they can afford.
Toronto better roll over for us later this week the same way they lay down for the Sux.
Troll scoreboard….BOS 7-0
haiku – I think a little of his motivation was taken when Ricciardi used him for a deadline-date yoyo and then yanked him back.
Do you re-sign Hairston or take the B draft pick?
White Sox lineup isn’t all that impressive. Major reason why they can’t score.
Pitching 101: a spit ball breaks down sharply like a splitter or forkball at a speed fairly close to a fastball.
Pitching 102: Aceves doesn’t throw a pitch that moves like that, it’s all fast ball, curve, changeup.
Pitching 103: Aceves doesn’t throw a spitter, period.
Hit with RISP
“Unless Twins content for the division and Mauer gets it, I wonder how Tex will not be the MVP, inspite of what Rob Neyer says.”
B/c he’ll likely split the vote w/ Jetes.
It’s funny b/c same could be said for Morales and Rivera of the LAA. Then there is Miguel Cabrera of the Tigers.
Well everyone, another lesson learned on the blog, ACEVES pitching. Now we know
I don’t think it is a coincidence that after we put Jorge back in the lineup… we explode offensively.
The offense was in a pretty big slump the last 3 days without Jorge and he comes back and they take off.
Wish they scored like this for AJ or CC…
UGH!!!! Cano with RISP can’t even drive in runs when he gets a hit. Just laziness on his part.
“Troll scoreboard….BOS 7-0″
Yankees 6.5
Who cares about the Sox? LOL – they will probably be the wild card and I respect them greatly, but why should we be thinking about them now? It’s impressive that the’ve beaten up Halladay twice in two weeks or whatever, but on the other hand……..Doc is just not right. Nice performance out of Byrd, though.
Molina Truther
August 30th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I don’t think it is a coincidence that after we put Jorge back in the lineup… we explode offensively.
The offense was in a pretty big slump the last 3 days without Jorge and he comes back and they take off.
Wish they scored like this for AJ or CC…
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10 runs yesterday is a slump?
MG did you play in the majors at all?
Thanks for the clinic on spitballs. I have to say that I also don’t think that Aceves is the kind of guy who would try to get away with a spitball but that doesn’t mean anything in terms of technicalities.
Ozzie better blame himself for this loss today.HE made the wrong moves period.
Tex 1 Min 2 bot of the 5th
Trevor -
They have the names though. if you look at the lineup on paper and see Podsednik, Quinten, Thome, Dye, Konerko, Ramirez, AJ, Beckham.. you would think they would score 950 runs.
Been a problem for the last few years for them… lots of big names, but they all seem to be having down years.
“B/c he’ll likely split the vote w/ Jetes.”
Even then….
They both can be on the ballot with one getting first and the other second or so…. There are ten slots on the MVP ballot.
my guess on the 4 pitchers that will be promoted.
Mark Melancon
Micheal Dunn
Zack Kroenke
Romulo Sanchez
GreenBeret7
August 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
UGH!!!! Cano with RISP can’t even drive in runs when he gets a hit. Just laziness on his part.
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Molina would have scored standing up, GB, Posada not only can’t call a decent game or throw anyone out he can’t run the bases either. Plus, he’s conspiring against Cano to keep his RBI’s down so Girardi will keep him ahead of Robby in the lineup.
What a tangled web this team is…
nice choke by the Rays
“10 runs yesterday is a slump?”
Yeah you really embarrassed yourself on that one “Molina Truther”. Molina was behind the dish yesterday when the score was 10-0.
Betsy
August 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
GB, I just bought a guide book on Savannah; I didn’t see your house listed under the tourist sites…..what’s up with that?
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I’ve always hated being on the “must see when in Savannah” list. I was tired of the mud being tracked into my stately mansion and the sticky fingered, snotty nosed little kids. I can’t wait to share the twins’ sticky fingers and snotty noses with others.
Ozzie managed himself right out of this one.
He talked about how they had to start winning and his team wasn’t playing hard and went on that big rant yesterday and today, they are down 1 run in the 7th… and he goes to his B-level relievers.
They had Thorton and Dotel just sitting there and he went to Williams and Linebrink.
Yup, fear the White Sox. LOL.
Ozzie must have really shaken up his troops after yesterday’s performance.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member who fears no team except the Yankees
August 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
MG did you play in the majors at all?
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not even the major leagues at the Parade Grounds in Brooklyn although I did make an All Star team in my little league…
Phil “let’s make it interesting” Coke
“my guess on the 4 pitchers that will be promoted.
Mark Melancon
Micheal Dunn
Zack Kroenke
Romulo Sanchez”
I believe they have to be on 40 to be promoted.
I do not see Zaxk and Romulo getting promoted as they are not on 40.
Betsy some of us watch the Sux the way some of you watch the Mets. Actually we have a lot more “reason” to keep score with the Sux. But you guys do it anyway.
I don’t think there’s a lot of fear of the Sux for some of us, as you well know. And unlike you, I think Texas might just knock them out of contention. But in any event, it is normal for us who live right near the losers to be aware of them.
I can’t speak for others out of the area.
It’s a blowout game, so Coke will probably pitch well……
“Unless Twins content for the division and Mauer gets it, I wonder how Tex will not be the MVP, inspite of what Rob Neyer says.”
I’m a huge Neyer fan, and I’m all for objective analysis, but the national guys really have no comprehension of what it’s been like going from 8 years of butcher defense at 1st base (literally not being able to see a 3-6 force out or 3-2 out at the plate) to Teixeira. That’s why guys like Kepner have thrown down the gauntlet on the “Tex for MVP” cause. For those of us who watch the team everyday, that difference just defensively really does go “beyond the numbers.”
And the saber-guys just looking at range factor or other fans around the country really don’t understand the full extent of that difference. To Yankee fans it’s night & day.
(Not to mention the monster offensive numbers . . .)
Why should it matter what Boston does ? The Yanks are taking care of their own business with 30 games left. Boston has issues and everybody knows it.
MG
August 30th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
GreenBeret7
August 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
UGH!!!! Cano with RISP can’t even drive in runs when he gets a hit. Just laziness on his part.
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Molina would have scored standing up, GB, Posada not only can’t call a decent game or throw anyone out he can’t run the bases either. Plus, he’s conspiring against Cano to keep his RBI’s down so Girardi will keep him ahead of Robby in the lineup.
What a tangled web this team is…
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This is really, Jim Pir-one, isn’t it? I think that your conspiracy theories are spot on.
Kate Hudson pop up vision powers activate.
Yay! A Yankee postgame on YES.
That’s Phil Choke! Gotta love him
Maybe some of us like to see Boston lose and like adding losses to their record so we can pad our lead.
Geez Coke is reverting back to his early Spring moments.. I really don’t trust him at all in any crucial situation.
Hey look, a rare sight…. Coke giving up another HR!
Man, too bad Molina isn’t catching. He would have prevented that last run from scoring.
“Do you re-sign Hairston or take the B draft pick?”
Take the draft pick. Hairston isn’t a bad utility player, but we already have Pena for next year.
Here, Jermaine Dye, have a Coke and a smile.
This guy is pretty much useless at this point. It’s too bad, I had really hoped he’d show the same dominance he showed last year.
dammit Cokey
Coke needs to work on his command.
For shame, GB – sticky fingers and snotty noses are two of the joys in life, lol. When Sid and Anthony are older, they will remember that quality time spent with you……believe me, there’s no one better qualified to clean up their messes than a great-grandpa
Looks like the leauge caught up with Coke.
Girardi has to be careful in using him in the post season.
Man, if I’m the Sox, I’m kind of puzzled that I go 8-2 and I’m still 6 out of first.
A rotation featuring a Beckett who seems to have lost his curve, Paul Byrd, Junichi Tazawa, John Lester (the only one who is decent right now), and Clay Bucholtz (innings limit, anyone) doesn’t exactly have me quaking in my boots.
The Sox play TB six times, the LAA of LA/USA/Earth three times, and the Yankees three times. While the White Sox look pretty poor, they actually are great at US Cellular, where the Sox also have to play 4.
Don’t count out those Rays, even without Kazmir.
Wow, has Coke fallen off the deep end or what
ERA almost 9 since the ASB (even if you take out the Chicago game, it’s still somewhere in the 7′s….) And giving up HRs galore.
Coke or Marte in a crucial situation against a lefty?
Cokie I mean sorry.
Yanks Win! 27!!
Almost another HR given up by Coke.
Man this guy sucks. Marte needs to be the primary lefty.
What a difference a series makes,home field is great!
Det won today CWS are 6 out.
I think Halladay mentally quit the team Sawx 7 Toronto 0 bot
Rob B -
Some of you need to have to get used to the fact that some posters here really appreciate Molina’s catching. Once you realize that it doesn’t really hurt anyone for us to feel that way, maybe you all will stop making those babyish references every time something happens. It really is juvenile.
On top of it, it keeps the little spite war going on. Just stop.
John August 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Coke or Marte in a crucial situation against a lefty?
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Any other options? Lol.
Marte hasn’t had a lot of work since coming back, but from what I’ve seen from him, I have to choose Marte. Especially if it’s against a guy with power.
Phil,gotta give up a run Coke,great game other wise.
pat m -
in the middle of the “bite me ” humor, a customer was waiting on the counter as i was posting to you on the blog.
all my college help is gone so i’m stuck on the counter on some days and these damn customers are slowing down my posting on the blog.
he was a very nice polite guy and said no problem on having to wait while i had my head in my computer. i thought he looked somewhat familiar. when i checked the name on the credit card it turned out to be lawrence summers, the economic head honcho .
he thanked me for the purchase and as he walked away i thanked him for making things a lot better than they could have been. as a small business owner i was expecting the worse this summer and it’s not off that much. that’s something to be thankful for.
Teixeira’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64892109de942e7d/
Trish, understood……I just don’t get why the need to give play by play, though, esp. since their concern at this point is the WC
We needed someone to replace Farnsworth’s gopher balls… Cokey has risen to the occasion to fill that role LOL
I happen to hate the Sucks AND the Mutts…
Betsy
August 30th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
For shame, GB – sticky fingers and snotty noses are two of the joys in life, lol. When Sid and Anthony are older, they will remember that quality time spent with you……believe me, there’s no one better qualified to clean up their messes than a great-grandpa
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Sorry, but, I have to disagree with you, Betsy. There are a couple of thing that are better in life, but, I’m a gentleman, and therefore, unable to mention them. Seriously, the babies have been a joy. They’d be a lot more of a joy if they would go to the bathroom before they came over. I think that Morgan is conspiring against me. It’s like she’s trained the twins to wait until they get here.
No need for too many callups on September 1st. Cervelli and Pena will fill in for late innings when the game is safe.
Melancon, Dunn, and Kroenke will strech out the bullpen and take pressure off in certain situations.
yep, not thrilled with Coke either…….
Very nice bounceback series from the Yanks, though…..
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member who fears no team except the Yankees
August 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Rob B -
Some of you need to have to get used to the fact that some posters here really appreciate Molina’s catching. Once you realize that it doesn’t really hurt anyone for us to feel that way, maybe you all will stop making those babyish references every time something happens. It really is juvenile.
On top of it, it keeps the little spite war going on. Just stop.
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I appreciate Molina’s catching as much as the next person. I just think the accusations that Posada is “responsible” for bad pitching are ludicrous. If my comment offended you, that really is too bad. How about you just laugh it off, ignore it, and move on?
There was nothing wrong with Coke’s pitch. Low and outside, and Dye isn’t exactly dog-meat.
Randy I, Isn’t Barack hanging out near by ????
Thanks Pel!
Coke giving up a run there is not a big deal. Losing by 6 runs in the 9th is probably the best time to hit. Hitters know you are getting a bunch of fastballs. Pitchers just dont want to walk hitters in those situations.
Wagner struck out the side today for Boston.
Man are they cruising or what. Why won’t they ever lose anymore?
>Thanks Pel!
“Don’t count out those Rays, even without Kazmir.”
Agreed.
I still don’t think Sox will make it to the playoffs.
With all the pitching problems they have, they are playing well over thier head right now and will come down to earth.
We will put the final nail on thieir coffin when they come to the stadium later in September
GreenBeret7 August 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
There was nothing wrong with Coke’s pitch. Low and outside, and Dye isn’t exactly dog-meat.
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That’s what I thought at first, too. But replays show the pitch was over the middle of the plate. It was low, but right down the center.
“A rotation featuring a Beckett who seems to have lost his curve, Paul Byrd, Junichi Tazawa, John Lester (the only one who is decent right now), and Clay Bucholtz (innings limit, anyone) doesn’t exactly have me quaking in my boots.”
The only correction is that Tazawa has been sent down. So it makes your point even stronger.
I couldn’t agree more by the way.
“The Sox play TB six times, the LAA of LA/USA/Earth three times, and the Yankees three times. While the White Sox look pretty poor, they actually are great at US Cellular, where the Sox also have to play 4.”
And the Rays and Chicago are both at their stadiums, where both are still in the hunt for the wild card and will playing desperately to win.
Between that and the iffy Sux rotation, I wouldn’t pencil the Sux in for October baseball just yet.
Honestly Coke isn’t exactly automatic. What would be the harm in giving Mike Dunn a chance? I’m sure he can give up lots of HRs and have a 5 era too.
“We will put the final nail on thieir coffin when they come to the stadium later in September ”
Oh yeah!
“Once you realize that it doesn’t really hurt anyone for us to feel that way, maybe you all will stop making those babyish references every time something happens. It really is juvenile.”
rob b-
as another juvenile supporter of our borderline hall of fame catcher, keep up the good work poking fun at his distractors.
i think a sense of humor might be the other sides weak spot.
Ace has one less win than AJ
The guy just knows how to win. He is like Ramiro Mendozer
“The only correction is that Tazawa has been sent down. So it makes your point even stronger.”
I would guess he will be back on Sept 1, so he will not miss a start.
Melancon, Albaledejo, Dunn I think will all get called up. Also the yanks might call up another starter like Josh Towers and make him a long man out of the bullpen. Since Joba is not pitching many innings in september.
Tricia, The BoSox will be playing in October, book it…..Beckett, Lester, Buckholz is a formible rotation and their pen is still very effectivly good…..The lineup, notably the lower end is their problem…….
Just got in. Caught the game on radio. Nice game by the Yanks.
Did they say anything on TV about why Hairston pinch hit for Damon?
What a sweet sweep!
pat m-
he’s out on the vineyard which is geographically close but a long ride by car and ferry.
“I just think the accusations that Posada is “responsible” for bad pitching are ludicrous.”
While I think there may have been problems, physical or personlity-wise or both earlier in the season, I would think that a lot of that is well in the past. So I don’t know that a lot of people are thinking that Posada is responsible for bad pitching. (But you also have to realize that anyone who does think that thinks what you are saying about it is equally ludicrous. That’s what forum opinions are for. Not everybody agrees on everything.)
That said, there are some of us who think that Molina may work better with certain pitchers than Posada does. I don’t see the great insult in that. So that’s the reason you and everybody else should just let it go. You may not have been reading along but there has been a lot of drama here lately about people not being able to deal with the back-and-forth about Posada and Molina. So I just mention that in the name of keeping the melodrama at bay.
Do what you want.
“Tricia, The BoSox will be playing in October, book it…..Beckett, Lester, Buckholz is a formible rotation and their pen is still very effectivly good…..The lineup, notably the lower end is their problem…….”
Agree 100% PAT.
Boston is formidable.
Rob B
August 30th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
GreenBeret7 August 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
There was nothing wrong with Coke’s pitch. Low and outside, and Dye isn’t exactly dog-meat.
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That’s what I thought at first, too. But replays show the pitch was over the middle of the plate. It was low, but right down the center.
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Maybe so. I thought that it looked like a good pitch, but, didn’t see the slo-mo replay. Compared it with gameday (not the smartest thing to do, I know) and it showed low and away. Perhaps it would have been better to go up and in on the hands. Maybe he was just more concerned about not walking Dye and would rather take a chance on getting him out.
Makes no difference in this game, and, it helps that Marte is looking to be on target. I think that he’s just a little worn down by pitching in nearly 60 games. He’s been the only lefty for most of the year and overall, has done a fine job until lately.
“Melancon, Albaledejo, Dunn I think will all get called up. Also the yanks might call up another starter like Josh Towers and make him a long man out of the bullpen. Since Joba is not pitching many innings in september.”
I agree, it is more realistic scenario. Given Coke’s troubles, they would like to see what Dunn can do.
Fran, Johnny just had cramping in his calves, probably from dehydration since it is so hot and humid. (The diagnosis part of that was mine!)
The bullpen will be better suited to handle the rest of Joba’s starts this season since they’ll have some extra arms to shoulder the load.
And Coke has struggled lately, but he was outstanding for awhile in the middle of the season. His ERA plummeted for two months and he was used as much if not more than anyone else in that pen.
But he hasn’t pitched a lot lately so his stuff isn’t very crisp. He can turn it around. They’ve got over four weeks to get him right. That’s enough time.
Boston won’t make the WC.
Coke gives up yet another HR. Someone told me on Thursday on this blog that they liked Coke a lot and said his high ERA is meaningless.
I understand Coke has had some really rough outings that made his ERA much higher but we have to realize what Coke is. At best he is a 1-2 batter pitcher. He cannot be trusted in big spots against big time lefty hitters (like Morneau, Ortiz, etc.).
Trisha:
I certainly understand where you are coming from. My comment was made in jest, and was not meant to offend. I’m just not one that takes such drama very seriously, and I forget that there are some that do. My apologies.
Albaladejo? Towers? you can’t be serious JFK.
Trisha, thanks.
Pat M, are you suggesting that Bucholz can be relied on in the post-season?
Hey Pat M – any penalty here for disageeing with you? Is it okay with you if I do?
Edwar needs to get another chance to show his worth
He can be an elite setup reliever… that killer changeup, best changeup in the league.
Needs to be utilized more.
Hairston Jr ? catching?
“Albaladejo? Towers? you can’t be serious”
Why? They are going to be spare parts any way probably pitching garbage time. And Alby is not that bad
No to Albaladejo/Towers
Yes to Melancon and Dunn
PORKCHOP SANDWHICHES!
YES post-game Booth Report with Nancy Newman, Michael Kay, and Al Leiter:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64892912b0d9fc9d/
“(Cokes pitch) Makes no difference in this game…”
Exactly. It decreased the lead to what, 5? Not really a big deal.
I’m not a big stat-head, so I don’t know the answer; but how many of Coke’s recent appearances have come with the Yankees leading? Has he really blown any close games? Or are his bad appearances mainly in games like today?
Also, is it just me, or does A-Rod look much better lately? He just seems a lot more comfortable at the plate and doesn’t look like he’s taking bad guess-hacks as much.
And Melky seemed to benefit from his day off yesterday. Please do that some more, Joe. But not too much.
Re Joba Rules:
I understand inning limits and pitch counts. But this entire year Joba has been going an average of 5 innings while pitching 100 pitches. His pitch count over the season is comparable to Burnett’s and Pettitte’s. Just because Joba has fewer innings his pitch count remains high.
Therefore, in a game like this afternoon, Joba had thrown 35 pitches through 3 innings. In a typical Joba game – he is closer to 50 pitches through 3 (sometimes higher). There is no reason he could not pitch the 4th inning.
This really isn’t that big a deal but in the month of September when the Yankees have some big games vs. Boston, Tampa and Aneheim – the Yankees need Joba to give them 5 innings and not blow out the bullpen.
Furthermore, the Yankees, in my opinion, have really hurt Joba and his young career. He came up 2 years ago as an unknown and quickly turned into a phenom. He has gone from special, to very good, to good, and now he is subpar. Since his miraculous 3 games after the All Star break he has been flat out brutal.
Yes it is early in his career and other great pitchers have starter out poorly as well. But Joba has regressed, his stuff isn’t special anymore, and his inability to learn and listen to those around him makes me scratch my head.
Mark we need guys that can throw strikes as well as throw swing and miss stuff.
That’s why I see
Melancon
Dunn
Kroenke
Sanchez
I doubt K-Ram would be a call up, he has too much inconsistancy especially for this park.
Need to fix Bruney and Cokey
“I certainly understand where you are coming from. My comment was made in jest, and was not meant to offend. I’m just not one that takes such drama very seriously, and I forget that there are some that do. My apologies.”
Rob B – no problem. I don’t typically take much seriously here but since I have been piled on for appreciating Molina
and have taken a lot of the heat and melodrama when I make the mistake of making comments about Molina, I have started to back away from making comments that can be misinterpreted as being jabs. (Though trust me people take them that way even when they’re not to be, regarding Posada.)
That’s why I mentioned that. Heck if I know that’s where you’re coming from I know it is fair game to kid with you. Trust me, there are some people here who act like you have murdered their child when you say anything about Posada. Geesh.
What ever happened to the good old-fashioned “I don’t agree with you and here is why” and leaving it at that?
Anthony Claggett has a 2.29 ERA in AAA… he is a guy who whould get a serious look in September.
“Beckett, Lester, Bucholz is a formidible rotation.”
Really?
Beckett has lost his curve, if you watch NESN–they are all very concerned. His ERA in the past three starts is close to 7.
Bucholtz had a good start or two–formidible?
Lester currently is the best of the three, but let’s now see how he does on the road.
The Sox have a very cushy last two weeks of the season, no doubt, but I wouldn’t be booking Fenway playoff tickets just yet.
Why is Girardi stroking his hair? He doesn’t have any!
Joba’s “special” stuff included a 98 MPH fastball and an 87 mph slider. The slider (rarely thrown for strikes) was his strike out pitch in 2007 and many came on check swings – perhaps because batters had to respect the fastball and start the bat early.
Joba’s fastball today did not top 93 mph (according to the stadium gun). This has been the case for most of the season. It is much easier to hold up now on the slider, which I think is why Joba is now walking more batters.
You can say that Joba has to conserve energy for the later innings and therefore, cannot go all out. Well if that’s the case he belongs in the pen. His stuff, while there, is simply not good enough to be a starter.
Joba is not going to jump CC or AJ anytime soon in the rotation. Next year he is at best a #3 starter. That would warrant him one start in the first round of the playoffs. I would prefer him (if capable) to pitch in multiple playoff games – albeit an inning or 2 at a time – and have a more positive affect on the outcome of a series.
Here’s hoping the Yankees DO NOT need Joba in this year’s postseason. He is simply not ready.
“Anthony Claggett has a 2.29 ERA in AAA… he is a guy who whould get a serious look in September.”
No he won’t. We’ve seen him before.
“Anthony Claggett has a 2.29 ERA in AAA… he is a guy who whould get a serious look in September.”
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Claggett has stunk in the majors. AAA ERA means very little. When they expand the roster by all means bring up the guys as a reward. However, they should never, ever see serious/meaningful time in games with meaning.
Hey I have another reason for appreciating Girardi!
REASONS TO LOVE JOE GIRARDI:
Being 33 games over 500.
Joe doesn’t trash his team the way Ozzie does.
Joe’s emotion and apparent sincere kindness.
Joe didn’t dumpe Mitre when the Lohud proletariat was calling for his head!
Joe more-often-than-not pulls off magic and quells the unrest on Lohud regarding when to put his relievers in and which relievers to use.
Joe is totally devoted to his family.
Joe wouldn’t bat his best player 8th in an elimination playoff game.
Joe decided to bat Jeter lead off this season.
Brandon – nice comment. I didn’t see it as I was posting. But right on the money.
Lester has a 3.77 ERA away from Fenway… not exactly terrible.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64893276bae3d308/
Johnny D – I agree with you about the Sux. I think I put my money more on the Rangers than on the Rays at this point, though you can’t count the Rays out. But Texas should definitely scoreboard watch when the Sux play the Rays in Tampa later this week. That’s the time both the Rays and the Rangers should make up ground. Also, I am hoping that the White Sox go home and grab some determination!
I hope the Blue Jays are this bad when we face them, because that was a weak performance against a washed up loser like Paul Byrd ( The guy from Frasier ) Cito Gasbag and his team of losers can’t even win one game.
What the hell is up with Halladay? So glad he’s not playing for us.
“Anthony Claggett has a 2.29 ERA in AAA… he is a guy who whould get a serious look in September.”
No he won’t. We’ve seen him before.
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One thing that everyone’s got to realize is that September callups aren’t always determined by who will help the team this year or…but as a reward for fine year at AAA. I would suspect that the Yankees will get two rounds of callups…one on September 1st and another round when Scranton’s season is over.
Yeah, I expect Towers and Claggett to be called up when the Scranton season is over…to reward them for fine seasons at Scranton.
Cards Wainright beats CC to the MLb’s first 16 th win.
Sawx have 3.5 game lead in the WC
Halladay has checked out for the season,after his mgr dangled trading him,then did nothing.He hasn’t been the same since. He’s 23 games out,and knows the games don’t matter now.