Scranton falls
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 30, 2009 
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We had 85 blog readers here to see Scranton fall 5-3. We saw Shelley homer. He also came over before the game to sign for people.
It was great to hang out and talk baseball with so many nice people. We’ll do it again next year.
Next year I hope I can make it to the Scranton get-together.
Good to see you guys had a good time. Watching the Yankees sweep was a decent consolation prize, though.
Dice-k had a rehab start in double A Portland Sea Dogs.
The 3rd pitch went out the park,and it took 49 pitches to get out of the 1st. Oh pretty please bring him back.
http://www.nesn.com
From boston.com
Daisuke Matsuzaka struggled in a rehab start for the Portland Sea Dogs this afternoon, going two innings and giving up five runs on four hits to the New Hampshire Fisher Cats in Manchester, N.H. Matsuzaka had three walks and one strikeout on the day and threw 58 pitches.
The first inning was abysmal for Dice-K. The 28 year-old righthander gave up a leadoff home run to Todd Donovan and needed 49 pitches to get out of the first. He allowed five runs on four hits and three walks in the inning. Matsuzaka retired the side on nine pitches in the second inning.
you mean Bust-K
Sounds like Dice-K is well on his way to getting back to April and May form.
I don’t have a problem with that. He was the Asian Brad Penny.
Hey Pete you are a great guy doing an outing with the blog. Good writer as well. Hope to make the gathering next year. Thanks for all that you do!
Next year I’ll finally set all business aside and go to the Lohud outing… and it will surely rain.
Hope everybody had a blast, despite the score.
It was great to see/meet everyone today. Home a little earlier than I originally planned, but these things happen.
Thanks to Pete and everyone who came out for making it such a blast. Safe to say, I’ll be back next year.
I wouldn’t blame him if he’s tanking to not be called back up in the middle of the team woes.The Bawstin media and fans were awful toward him,even asking for the Sawx money back,and suggesting he return to Japan.ouch!
“Dice-k had a rehab start in double A Portland Sea Dogs.
The 3rd pitch went out the park,and it took 49 pitches to get out of the 1st. Oh pretty please bring him back.”
Weren’t some people mentioning DiceK as part of the magic that will propel the Sux to the playoffs?
Meanwhile, I trust that out of 85 people someone had a camera and will be posting pictures of the outing!
thankful you all had a nice time, Pete
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....tch/082709
If you’ve got nothing else to do, you can try matching up the batters to their music.
This one’s for the Brewers, I’m going to try to find the Yankees one on the previous weeks’ links.
Pat M, I’m sorry to disagree, but I don’t see how Joba is the key to the Yankees post-season at all. He will hopefully not pitch in the ALDS and, if the Yankees are good enough and fortunate enough to get to the ALCS, we’ll see him just once (which I’m not looking forward to at this point).
The keys to the post-season are CC, AJ and Andy pitching well and the Yankees being able to take advantage of opportunties when they get them (with RISP).
Magic number 27. Maybe the rays will actually play to win the game?
Has jim-pir told us today how halladay laid down for the sox. lol
Baltimore and Washington’s magic number at 4. Washington’s can go down to 3 with a Phillie’s win. Who wants it more?
Lord, I hope the playoffs don’t depend on any one pitcher, especially one that’s up and down.
I attended my 2nd Yankee game(both this season, both victories) today. It was awesome, especially being in the bleacher creatures both times. Both times Damon HR’d and I was really happen when my boy, Mr. MVP, Tex finished it off with a 3 run HR. This yankee team is really good and can’t wait for the stretch run.
P.S, also can’t wait to start my first official GTLU game on Tuesday
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ughes.html
And because he’s relieving, he can throw harder, too. As a starter, Hughes was throwing 92-93 mph, but he reached 97 on the Fenway radar gun last Sunday and regularly pitches at 94-95. It’s the hardest Eiland has ever seen him throw and the two worked together in the minors, too.
“You can light up the radar gun if you’re only pitching an inning. I guess it makes you feel like more of a man,” Hughes says, laughing.
lol. Okay, not trying to tease, just wanted to share.
I noticed that Ben Zobrist’s music was something his wife did.
A search of her name took me to her myspace page with her music and bio.
A funny story, she called 911 when she was 4 years old and sang “Jesus Loves me” because he siblings weren’t too interested in being her audience.
It looks like the Red Sox might be going into the postseason with out Wakefield and Dice- K. I guess Bucholz and Byrd are going to be the starters in a possible ALCS matchup if they face the Yankees.
Betsy, There will be a time when Joba’s name will be called to take the hill, and that start will be considered a very important swing game…..It very well may turn out to be Game 3 of the ALCS….
I still can’t believe Wakefield injured his back throwing his awesome 60 mph heater.
Meh, Yankee fans turn on players with reckless abandon.
It’s possible Joba could be the key to postseason greatness. When he gets into a rhythm, he’s as lights out as anyone in the rotation.
It was just a few short weeks ago that Burnett was lights out and Pettitte wasn’t reliable.
Those two have since switched roles of late, although I wouldn’t have any concerns about either of them pitching in the postseason.
They have over four weeks to get Joba back to being Joba. That’s plenty of time to get him right. Four weeks is a long time.
tunnel you can hurt your back walking down stairs and taking an awkward step.
Hey Yankee Fan in VA – email me and we can plan for next year – I live in Bethesda MD -
Pat M, why would Joba start over Andy in the ALCS? That would be the shock of my life, honestly.
“I still can’t believe Wakefield injured his back throwing his awesome 60 mph heater.”
More likely he did it throwing back shots of some adult beverage
He’s not exactly the most ripped athlete I’ve ever seen on a baseball diamond.
I struck out looking (1 minute and 24 seconds to match the songs to the player).
So do the Yankees get to choose if they want the extra day in the ALDS if they have the best record (if they want a 3 man rotation), or does MLB just assign it based on the matchup and the corresponding TV schedule?
M,
So what song would you choose for your AB music?
I’m no fan of rap or hip-hop so I couldn’t name a single tune by any one of those artists.
GF, I’m not sure what you are talking about. Just because I don’t think Joba will be the great key to the post season means I’ve abandoned him? I’m not getting into that argument again – but it’s hardly an insult to him to say that CC, AJ and Andy are bigger keys to the post-season than Joba.
On the Brewers one, I grounded out. So I think I did a little better, haha.
It’s easy to match up the country music. lol.
i think everyone is forgeting alex rodriguez is the key to the post season. If he bats .300 were unbeatable given cc burnett and pettite arod is the key.
benfica356-
Loving your enthusiasm
Thought I’d jump back on for a bit. Had to get off about 2:30 today. Today was another interesting day on the blog, you offer an opinion and get attacked, then you comment about a comment made by the attacker and get attacked again. All against the backdrop that you know nothing about Baseball.
Betsy,
You don’t have much confidence in any pitcher not named Hughes or Burnett. Okay, probably Mo as well.
Joba wouldn’t be starting Game 3 in the ALDS, but it’s not a reach to say Joba’s performance in the postseason will be a very big factor whether the Yanks win or lose.
Franco,
Exactly. And when Joba does start pitching well again, everyone will hop back on the bandwagon.
Guiseppi,
Good game for a slow night!
I like all kinds of music, but I don’t know the latest, underground hip-hop so well. And I think I’d get booed out of Yankee Stadium if I picked one of my faves from the 80′s.
So, off the top of my head, it’d be “Three Little Birds” by Bob Marley. Great intro and first line, “Saying don’t worry, about a thing. Cuz every little thing is going to be all right. Woke up this morning and smiled at the rising sun…” lol.
pat m
Francona said in the papers,before he returned,Tim would be ok as long as no one bunted,I bet someone bunted.lol
If Joba pitches well towards the end of the year, he can be A key, because we would have 4 really good SP in the post-season……I didn’t mean to make it sound like he would definitely not make an impact. I just don’t see how he is THE key. CC and AJ are the first two keys..if they don’t pitch well, the Yankees are going to have a hard time winning.
GF, I’ll ignore that first comment and ask you instead to explain why the Yankees results in the post-season hinge on Joba.
Betsy, Much depends on how things fall into place after the ALDS….If it were to go 5 games then the rotation changes dramatically in the second round……Joba will have the spotlight on him somewhere , sometime during the postseason run…..It always comes to that……
haiku-man August 30th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
pat m
Francona said in the papers,before he returned,Tim would be ok as long as no one bunted,I bet someone bunted.lol
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Well if Joe T was managing against him he’d tell his players not to bunt. It just isn’t right. LOL
I’m still angry over that! I don’t let things go very easy!
I’m still curious to see how this offense does against good pitching in the playoffs…..
thanks Erica.
Pat M, that’s a good point. Well, we shall see……..first things first and that’s to make it through the ALDS.
The only way you can lineup your rotation is if you sweep the ALDS.
If you have to go to 4 or 5 games, Joba may not be starting game 4, he may be starting games 1 or 2. Depends on the off-days
Remember in 2005… Jaret Wright was on a plane to Chicago as he was slated to pitch game 1 of the LCS if we beat the Angels.
Bunny,
Is that your best comeback?
Yankees better make hay on this road trip. They should go 5-2 on it. Plus they come home to a double header against the Rays.
Betsy, I actually think the Yankee Bats are the key. In several of the 2000′s first series exits I thought the pitching was good enough to win, but the hitting and A Rod (& Soriano with all those K’s if you can remember back that far) was the main cause of the demise.
I think the Yanks Pitching is at least as good as it has been in the past, lets hope we don’t get another Wang meltdown this year with one of our pitchers.
The other key is to somehow (ptiching is one way, defense is the other) keep the LAA from playing their aggressive baserunning game. I get dizzy watching them run the bases and they get extra runs by doing so.
Only 6 games? LOL that is a pretty significant amount.
Hey bunny here are a few sites that would actually care what you say sosh.com and bostondirtdogs.com
I know Joba has the potential to pitch better than Andy.
But how can you give Joba the ball over Andy in a Game 3?
after murders row and cano got shut down by Kenny Rogers and co., i’ve stopped trying to predict how the offense will do.
Betsy August 30th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
GF, I’ll ignore that first comment and ask you instead to explain why the Yankees results in the post-season hinge on Joba.
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I didn’t say definitively that Joba is the key to the postseason. What I did was acknowledge that Pat could end up being right with his assessment.
The difference between having three decent starters in the postseason and four good starters is enormous because it’s pitching DEPTH that often makes the difference in a postseason series.
The Yanks didn’t always win Game 1 during the Dynasty Years. But they always had the edge in Games 2, 3, and 4 because they always sent better starters to the hill in those games than their opponents.
I’d rather have the pitching edge in Games 2, 3, and 4 than in Game 1.
Bunny,
Not a worry in the world here. We just want to get in and see what happens.
Tunnel Man
August 30th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
you mean Bust-K
you mean Fat Toad……
Sucks that Scranton lost, but sounds like a fun outing for all. I hope someone took pics.
We play 11 games in the next 10 days. 7 game road trip, then come home to a Labor Day doubleheader. Have to be careful not to trip up.
Bunny August 30th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
It kind of cracks me up how you guys say the Sox suck on the road when the Yanks are only 6 games better.
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But six games to the Sox must feel like a hundred because they just had an enormously successful homestand and they still couldn’t gain any ground on the Yanks.
Now the Red Sox have to go on the road where they don’t play nearly as well.
Tito has already conceded the division. He did that by not starting Lester last weekend at Fenway and then pitching Nick Green in a winnable game against the Sox.
The Sox will probably still make the playoffs. They just aren’t winning this division.
Bunny,
You’re the one who seems worried. Oh, well.
I didn’t make it down to DiceK’s rehab start. I forgot it got cancelled last night due to Hurrican Dan’s rain, but he got shelled pretty good today. This will leave the Sox in a pickle as to who fills the void in the rotation. That is their problem. GO YANKS !!
I think the same can be said for Beckett and Lester. If they fail Boston has no chance in the postseason.
>we Sox fans are here to stay
we’ll see. wild card is up for grabs.
M, respectfully I’d have to disagree, Andy is a much better pitcher at least right now than Joba. If your talking several years down the road then maybe it will be different.
Andy has much better control and when he throws that cutter it can be a very dominant pitch.
Joba doesn’t have that control now or that dominant pitch, he tries to pitch most of the time on power and doesn’t get the movement, location, and control that would make him consistent on a appearance to apperance basis. Andy on the other hand is pretty consistent with an occasional bad outing. He usually takes a beating when Joe leaves him too long.
Just my opinion.
White Sox fans were saying that the Hawk’s “You can put it on the board” call for Dye’s HR today was sad to hear.
I’d love to hear his pain if anyone has a link.
Exactly, GF.
In fact, we probably won’t even have the advantage on paper in Game 1 of the ALDS considering how great Verlander has been. It’s probably a draw but Verlander’s numbers are better.
That’s why having the advantage in the other games is crucial. Look at 06— after we lost game 2, I don’t think anyone had a warm feeling going to Detroit and sending out Randy and Wright. Or 07 where we had Clemens down 0-2 and then Mussina or Wang (who had been awful in game 1) on short rest.
Every game is big in the postseason.
Pov,
Please go back and read my question.
Peter Abraham
August 29th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Folks:
Please ignore and do not acknowledge any trolls. These are desperately lonely and sad people who are only seeking attention.
I invite any trolls who have the guts to e-mail me with your complaints. As we all know, they lack the courage to do such a thing.
At any rate, just ignore them and they will go away. Thanks and enjoy the game.
When does school start again?
so, it keeps getting lost when I try to post it:
Remember what Pete said about ignoring trolls and I’m pretty sure things will get better in here
m August 30th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Guiseppi,
Good game for a slow night!
I like all kinds of music, but I don’t know the latest, underground hip-hop so well. And I think I’d get booed out of Yankee Stadium if I picked one of my faves from the 80’s.
So, off the top of my head, it’d be “Three Little Birds” by Bob Marley. Great intro and first line, “Saying don’t worry, about a thing. Cuz every little thing is going to be all right. Woke up this morning and smiled at the rising sun…” lol.
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This question came up a couple of years ago and I made my choice long before Yankee relievers outside of Mo all went with the Metallica route.
I’m a bit of an old school headbanger at heart, so my choice(s) would be “Master of Puppets” by Metallica and my second choice would be “Back in Black” by AC/DC.
imho, andy will be the game 3 starter b/c it will be on the road – regardless if aj’s struggling or not…
Mr. Franco makes the point I was aiming at…..You can map out the first round due to the foolish amount of time to play 5 games….Howevere once you move on to rounds 2 & 3, The pitching matchups are not always what you wish more…..As for road records, 5 of the 6 Division leaders all have above .500 records on the road….Idealy, you hope to play even away from home, and dominate at home…
M, total agreement.
I was giving my spin on the first line which was written by someone else.
just got home. got a flat just outside of binghamton, missed everything.
how very lovely.
Yankees are in a good place as a team unit.That’s why the trolls were on the game thread today.
They know the Yankees are back big time,hungry,and a force to contend with.They toppled Beckett,and that scares them,more than they will admit.
Sawx also know that their 2 WS wins are tainted,and MANUFACTURED.
dan August 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
after murders row and cano got shut down by Kenny Rogers and co., i’ve stopped trying to predict how the offense will do.
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It didn’t help that Randy Johnson was crap.
I actually don’t have any issues with the offense. If the starters can keep their team in the game, the offense will eventually so their thing.
I think the big issue with the offense is that they were sorta taken out of these games the last few years rather quickly because the starters weren’t doing their job.
It’s tough to do your normal routine at the plate when the pressure is really on and your starter just spotted the other team 5 runs in 4-5 IP.
Pov,
And I would totally say give the ball to Andy before Joba. Primary reason being that Andy has postseason experience. If Joba can’t slow down a regular season game, what’s going to happen in the postseason?
I would say all that, but then I’d get a lecture about falling off Joba’s wagon.
bunny apparently you don’t even know what that word means. Because you are using it improperly.
M, your right about that, several of us were trashed on the game thread today for just that reason.
Pov
Stop talking about the Angels ! The Yankees aren’t facing them in the postseason. The Red Sox as usual will eliminate them. It will be Yankees vs. Red Sox ALCS.
And Bunny worry about your own team because Dice-k is done for the season as well as old man Wakefield.
I can vouch for jennifer. She’s no prude!
This Yankee team is very different from what we’ve had in recent years. They are the come back kids, they never feel like they are out of the game. They get angry when they lose, they don’t hang there heads like recent teams.
On our pregame show tonight, we opened with a sound bite from Nick Swisher, in which he basically said that they got a little angry losing 2 in a row and were out to change that last night.
http://theblob.mlblogs.com/
As long as our pitchers keep us in games in the playoffs there is always a chance they will come back. They know how to do it this year.
Giuseppe Franco:
Agree 100%. It all starts, or ends, with pitching.
m, Giradi may not have that luxury to pick and choose…The schedule will dictate to him as to who throws that game…..If the Yanks sweep Detoit for instance, and Boston needs 5 games to drop the Angels, well then the matchups favor the Yanks….
Sox will win the WC and get into the playoffs and be a very dangerous team in October. They have Beckett and Lester who are as good as any 1-2 in the league and you face them 4 times in a 7 game series. Wakefield gave up 1 run over 6 to the White Sox on a bad back. You know he will battle for you in October, healthy or not. Buchholz is pitching very well too. We have Joba as our #4 so call that a draw.
No one is saying they are dead… in fact, they will be a force in the postseason. Doesn’t hurt that they absolutely own their first round opponent.
The wrestling belt,pies in the face,and the kangaroo court,that holds them personally accountable, brought them together as a team.
What better way to bring together a bunch of Alpha males.
Jeremy
Stop talking about the Angels ! The Yankees aren’t facing them in the postseason. The Red Sox as usual will eliminate them. It will be Yankees vs. Red Sox ALCS.
I’m pretty happy to hear that we don’t have to talk about the the team with the second best record in Baseball behind the Yanks that has just cleaned our clock lately. Getting Kazmir who gives us and the Red Sox fits isn’t probably going to make any difference to them.
Any thought of not electing to take the extra day in the first round and matching up Joba with Washburn or Porcello?
e
I think it is to our advantage to take the extra day
http://www.backwoodsbound.com/zrabbit16.html
So the Sox go 8-2 in that craphole of a stadium and the trolls come out. Oh well.
Rays are still not out of it…wouldn’t it be interesting to have the Rays up by one going into the final games of the season with the Yankees, and the Yankees pitch one of their AA starters…I can just see the steam coming off of SOSH…
“OK, I have to go, got a couple customers. $$$$$ Please dont bash me while I’m gone! LOL”
Ah, so you work in the adult entertainment business.
haiku-man August 30th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
The wrestling belt,pies in the face,and the kangaroo court,that holds them personally accountable, brought them together as a team.
What better way to bring together a bunch of Alpha males.
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It is funny you say that. I was watching Kids on Deck today. Bruney and AJ were together at a monster truck rally. Bruney made the comment on how much fun the team had (this was back in st) thought it was going to be a special team. Said him and a bunch of players were playing xbox online together. I think what really made this team come together as simple as it sounds was when Joe took them to play pool.
joker- at least you said it and not me. I certainly thought it.
POV
We will get HFA. The Angels are worse then they were last year. There starting rotation is a mess and their bullpen sucks. Pitching is what wins in October, and the Angels are due for another first round lose to the Red Sox.
Bunny, Wakefield sucks, just because he beat a pathetic team like the White Sox means nothing. He is old and injured and sucks against the Yankees. And if Josh Beckett doesn’t revert back to form the only team your beating is the Angels in October.
Also, Kazmir will not save the Angels.
S.A.–Serenity Now August 30th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
http://www.backwoodsbound.com/zrabbit16.html
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Want a laugh? Come to Pete Abe’s LoHud blog!
That was hilarious, SA.
PittsburghYankeeFan August 30th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
So the Sox go 8-2 in that craphole of a stadium and the trolls come out. Oh well.
Rays are still not out of it…wouldn’t it be interesting to have the Rays up by one going into the final games of the season with the Yankees, and the Yankees pitch one of their AA starters…I can just see the steam coming off of SOSH…
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Kirk Wakefield couldn’t stand after that game,needed cortisone,and surgery at season’s end.Don’t put too much into him.
I do agree with your assessment of Beckett and Lester.
Bunny August 30th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I agree the Yanks are a VERY good team. But in no way are our WS victories tainted. Maybe in your eyes as you are biased but every team had juicers, e.g. Arod, Giambi, for starters. LOL
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Wow, can’t even name somebody who actually played for the Yankees when they won the WS. Wow. Nice come back there.
Please don’t feed the bunny troll folks – scroll away
Customers? Guess they must pay in singles.
Pete – you haven’t moron-proofed the board today I see
L to the 2nd
Nope not at all. lol Again she uses a word improperly. You’d think she’d check dictionary.com to see what it means.
Do the Rays play 3 or 4 vs. BOS this week @ the Trop?
Could be VERY interesting since they own the Sux this year.
Bunny, I’ll say this, you make things a little interesting around here……At least you bring humor
Jennifer you’re assuming intelligence there – which is a giant leap of faith. Rather, from the looks of it, damn near impossible.
Hey where’s Jim-Pir when you need him? LOL
Bunny August 30th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Giuseppe Franco, Your getting repetative in your old age. It was OK to pitch Swish though? I said they were short a pitcher and he filled in just fine, 2 innings of no hit ball! We dont need the Division as the past will tell you.
Again the Yanks are 2?nd on the road the Sox 3?rd, not too bad.
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How can you even compare the two?
Swisher pitched that game in April and it wasn’t winnable considering they were down by double digits.
Tito let Green pitch in winnable game against a terrible bullpen at the end of August in a pennant race when the score was within 4-5 runs.
These two situations are as comparable as apples and hand grenades.
Bunny
Your a fool, they won in 2000. And how long did it take for the piece of crap Red Sox organization to win a title oh wait…. 86 years !!! And what was there excuse… A stupid Curse, instead of just admitting that they sucked for 86 years.
- And Ortiz is a phony !
L to the 2nd
I am sorry you are correct.
Mmmm…Bunney. Haven’t shot me one of them in a while.
They make a pleasing thump when the shell hits them.
“Weren’t some people mentioning DiceK as part of the magic that will propel the Sux to the playoffs?”
Yes, and he is supposed to be joined by Paul Byrd. Interestingly, Byrd topped out around 88-89 and generated one swinging strike today.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....evDate=830
I think I originally had Jeter passing Gehrig on 9/7. May have to revise that forward a bit. The guy is getting 2-3 hits every game and it’ll be very interesting to see how this MVP race falls out.
Twins are quietly creeping back in there too – albeit in a crappy division.
“They make a pleasing thump when the shell hits them.”
Wow, I can’t believe I said that. What a dumb thing to do!
It’s the bullet that hits them. Silly me.
Hey Bunny can’t wait to see Paul Byrd pitching game 3 or 4.
By that time his era will be 30.00
I’m not into killing bunnies, but I’ve heard that the best way to put them out of their misery is to snap their neck.
Oh wait, Jeremy’s here – never mind.
This could be fun.
You go boy.
m August 30th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I’m not into killing bunnies, but I’ve heard that the best way to put them out of their misery is to snap their neck.
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It’s too much effort to chase them down. Much easier to take care of them from a distance.
Hey didn’t Paul Byrd test positive for Poerformance enhancing Drugs? I think so !
So Bunny you supposed clean team has another user. Did Ortiz whip him up a milkshake before the game ? LOL
Rob B,
Shouldn’t be a problem. This one’s a little slow.
Sorry I meant performance enhancinh drugs
Jeremy,
Not only that. The Boston press ratted him out.
I thought Inglorious Bastards was a great movie, I guess Pete doesn’t agree ha
At this rate, how long before Theo the Boy Genius calls on Luis Tiant, Bill Lee & Oil Can Boyd to be #4 or #5?
That $102m investment in Bust-K is really working out, isn’t it? Finally all those 250 pitch games as a kid may be taking its toll
enhancing- sorry typing too fast LOL
Jennifer~
I hear CC plays a competitive video game before the game.You don’t normally talk/interact with the pitcher before the game.
“I’d rather have the pitching edge in Games 2, 3, and 4 than in Game 1.”
So would I. Who’s the #2 though? Burnett has no edge over Boston’s #2. Maybe not the Tigers #2 either.
I wouldn’t be at all comfortable losing Game 1 and having Burnett starting Game 2. Would much prefer Pettitte.
haiku-man
Yep heard the same. heard mike and Al talking about the pitchers staying in the dugout to watch the team as well.
It was cool to read about the fantasy football league the have. Don’t know how many players are participating. But when they got down to Baltimore they were holding the draft. Little things like this bring the team together.
The only RS pitcher that can be counted on right now is Lester.
3 terrible games in a row by Beckett.
Laptop boy has proven he can beat the Blue Jays 2 or 3 times – how about the Angels? Rangers? Yankees?
#4 & #5 are black holes.
Offense outside of Fenway is exposed – won’t have the green ping pong table to bounce fly balls off of…
TEX & TAM on their heels – good luck with that.
Just don’t hook up with any nice college boys from Boston on craigs list, and you’ll be just fine.
m
I’m shocked!!
Funny that Byrd would come back since the Boston media printed a story about his steroid use.
Hopefully the Blue Jays will “show up” for the 4 games with us next weekend just as they did this weekend LOL
m
August 30th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I know Joba has the potential to pitch better than Andy.
But how can you give Joba the ball over Andy in a Game 3?
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Probably not I think Joe will give game 3 to Andy. He has been pitching great the second half and also is a experienced big game pitcher. But having Joba pitch game 4 against the tigers that game will be a big advantage to the yankees. Joba has dominanted the tigers this year.
Jeremy,
Not once, but twice! This is his second rodeo in Boston.
Yankee Lineup Theme Music
with a classic rock twist, lol
Jetes= “Dear Mr. Fantasy” (Traffic)
Damon= “Don’t Look Back” (Boston)
Tex= “Mr. Roboto” (Styx)
ARod= “Money” (Pink Floyd)
Matsui= “Godzilla” (Blue Oyster Cult)
Posada= “Beast of Burden” (Rolling Stones)
Cano= “Good Times Bad Times” (Led Zeppelin)
Swish= “Walk on the Wild Side’ (Lou Reed)
Melky= “I Still Have’nt Found What I’m Looking For” (U2)
Gardner= “Run Like Hell” (Pink Floyd)
Jeremy I am shocked too. Since we all know that story was leaked just to get in Paul’s head. and It worked.
Bunny August 30th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Giuseppe Franco, And he pitched well. You seem to overlook that.
And Billy Wagner with 1 inning and 3 K’s!
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Doesn’t matter if he pitched well. He’s not a pitcher and Tito conceded that game and used a non-pitcher in a winnable game during a pennant race.
Perhaps you overlooked that.
7789,
Not sayinging anything about Joba, but Andy can battle and not potentially burn out the bullpen.
Ozzie’s comments today were hilarious.
“Well the Stadium was nice & the hotel we stayed at was nice – that’s the only good I have to say about the last 3 days”
At least he didn’t call out his players by name today.
L to the 2nd
At least he didn’t say that guy.
unlike another manager across town.
Phillies almost had a triple play!
If you’re lucky, you’ll get 10 innings out of Wagner between now & October (not necessarily 10 good ones).
If history is any teacher & IF BOS gets the WC we’re primed to see a good ole Billy Wags meltdown in the postseason.
Either way, it’ll be fun to watch.
L to the 2nd
Yep and 1 inning was already in a blow out game.
Reality Check August 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
“I’d rather have the pitching edge in Games 2, 3, and 4 than in Game 1.”
So would I. Who’s the #2 though? Burnett has no edge over Boston’s #2. Maybe not the Tigers #2 either.
I wouldn’t be at all comfortable losing Game 1 and having Burnett starting Game 2. Would much prefer Pettitte.
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If they do matchup, it won’t be until the ALCS so trying to figure out pitching matchups in a second postseason series is useless.
The Yanks could sweep whomever in the ALDS and the Red Sox could take 5 games to win their series or vise versa.
You might see Wakefield or Buchholz pitch Game 2 instead of Lester. Who knows.
Yeah Jennifer I am surprised too.
Poor Manuel, he must be stoned.
How else could he cope?
Boy if everything is so wonderful in chowdah country the,why do you need to spend time over at a Yankee blog?
Byrd can’t pitch exclusively to teams that quit.Let’s see him againt the Angels,Rays,or Yankees,first.
They played a team that’s 23 games behind,and unmotivated,because these games don’t matter for them now.
I guess Nick Green wasn’t available today?
L to the 2nd
You know it is so funny how different for the most part the media treats him compared to how Joe was treated last year. All Jerry has to do is laugh and call players that guy and he gets a pass. Last year Joe was wound so tight and the media treated him like garbage.
Hey Bunny I understand that my knowledge and the knowledge of the other posters is too much for you, so maybe you should go to SOSH.
“If they do matchup, it won’t be until the ALCS so trying to figure out pitching matchups in a second postseason series is useless.”
True. I was thinking more along the lines of Detroit in a short series. I don’t expect Sabathia to lose Game 1, but on the chance he does, I can come up with no reason to trust Burnett in Game 2. I can think of plenty to trust Pettitte.
I’m officially on the Jeter for MVP bandwagon. I just did a little stat research, and this is what I found out. Jeter, vs all other SS in the Majors, with AL rank in parenthesis:
Runs – 1st
Hits – 1st
2B – 9th (5th AL)
HR – 3rd (1st AL)
RBI – 5th (1st AL)
BB – 3rd (2nd AL)
SB – 5th (3rd AL)
OBP – tied 2nd (tied 1st AL)
SLG – 7th (4th AL)
Avg – 3rd (2nd AL)
Top 5 in every one of those categories in the AL (only outside top 5 in majors in two categories), 1st in the majors in hits and runs. Absolutely the number 1 SS in the league, while Tex has a lot of competition for best at 1B.
This really ought to be the year for Jetes.
Jerry is getting a pass because, quite frankly, the injuries are ridiculous and he has to put up a AAA team.
It doesn’t excuse the fact that the team plays horrible fundamental baseball & that should lie squarely on him.
But it hasn’t.
Reality Check August 30th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
“If they do matchup, it won’t be until the ALCS so trying to figure out pitching matchups in a second postseason series is useless.”
True. I was thinking more along the lines of Detroit in a short series. I don’t expect Sabathia to lose Game 1, but on the chance he does, I can come up with no reason to trust Burnett in Game 2. I can think of plenty to trust Pettitte.
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Well, I guess I have more confidence in Burnett than you do. I would imagine you were pretty confident in him when he had a 2.00 ERA over a span of 11 starts this past June/July.
Burnett is perfectly capable of pitching well in the postseason.
“Last year Joe was wound so tight and the media treated him like garbage”
Girardi was tight. Remember also his relationship with the truth was oftentimes casual at best. He’s turned both of those shortcomings around.
I think Jeter & Tex will split votes, and if Mauer keeps up his pace & the Twins are close or somehow beat DET, he gets it.
Bunny,
You’re totally incorrect, but your insistence and arrogance is funny.
L to the 2nd~
Where was that Ozzie quote,I’m still laughing,with tears in my eyes,and can’t catch my breath.
Ozzie is so emotional,and dramatic.
Joe was definitely wound too tight last year.
It seemed like he turned a corner in Spring Training (taking a page out of Coughlin’s playbook) with the pool tournament.
um….
“Players must be on a team’s 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.”
I figure if he pitched today (August 30th), he makes the August 31st deadline
Haiku I think I saw it on espn.cm
.com
Lousy keyboard
Bunny,
Who the heck you talking about? Someone that’s going to be added after the real deadline for postseason eligibility? 8/31?
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedul....._dates.jsp
“I would imagine you were pretty confident in him when he had a 2.00 ERA over a span of 11 starts this past June/July.”
Sure, GF. But when he posted a 4.78 ERA in the 12 starts prior and a 6.03 ERA in August, I was considerably less so. He’s never shown he deals well with adversity. Just like Pettitte’s fortitude and experience in a key spot moreso than Burnett.
Rishi don’t even bother.
Mentally, we’re the stick & she’s the pinata.
Waste of keystrokes.
Lto the 2nd
Thanks I’m still laughing!
m
Wagner. She doesn’t even know he can pitch in the post season.
Oh well, I’ve had enough fun for the night. Night all.
L to the 2nd
August 30th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Rishi don’t even bother.
Mentally, we’re the stick & she’s the pinata.
Waste of keystrokes.
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gotcha – then I’m going to wish you all a good night and go pack for the week…
‘nite all
Making R — D — M sound like Einstein
I don’t know how anyone can trust Burnett over Andy in a big spot.
I’m out.
No letdowns this week.
5 out of 7 minimum.
I probably have more faith in Joba than I do Burnett, just because I feel Joba knows how to get himself out of jams. Very rarely does Joba take the team out of the game, most of his bad outings are like 5 IP, 4 ER.
Somebody shouldn’t have dropped out of troll school.
Reality Check August 30th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
“I would imagine you were pretty confident in him when he had a 2.00 ERA over a span of 11 starts this past June/July.”
Sure, GF. But when he posted a 4.78 ERA in the 12 starts prior and a 6.03 ERA in August, I was considerably less so. He’s never shown he deals well with adversity. Just like Pettitte’s fortitude and experience in a key spot moreso than Burnett.
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And Pettitte was terrible in the first half while Burnett was the reliable one.
Sabathia was the guy who hadn’t lived up to expectations before his August dominance and wasn’t the “true ace” like the almighty Josh Beckett.
It doesn’t take long for the fans’ perspectives to change. A couple of starts can change everything.
Burnett was outstanding in his last start and made one bad pitch. If he takes that kind of stuff to the mound in October, I’ll take my chances with him.
Burnett/Jackson can be 1-1 in the 7th inning or 7-7 in the 3rd.
Doesn’t matter how you feel about Burnett. He’s going to pitch behind CC in the playoffs.
If Burnett has that outing in the playoffs… he could very well be on the losing end of a 3-1 game.
One bad pitch may be all it takes to lose a game in October.
He’s not going to get 9 lives there.
Burnett has pitched very well this year. His only real problem this year is he had 3 horrible starts at Fenway. Take away those starts at Fenway I think he has a 3.40 era.
m August 30th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Doesn’t matter how you feel about Burnett. He’s going to pitch behind CC in the playoffs.
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Exactly. Pettitte is pitching Game 3, also called the “swing game” according to both Torre and Girardi.
You want Pettitte in game 3… it is a bigger game.
Either up 2-0 trying to sweep
Tied 1-1 going on the road
Down 0-2 trying to stay alive
Remember in 06 when we had to rely on Randy in game 3 in Detroit?
OMG the CWS are playing at the Metrodome,they are 2-14,Ozzie says they will be either in or out after they play there.
He says they have to win the series.Should be worth tracking.
Nick August 30th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I probably have more faith in Joba than I do Burnett, just because I feel Joba knows how to get himself out of jams. Very rarely does Joba take the team out of the game, most of his bad outings are like 5 IP, 4 ER.
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Joba this year, runs given up
0 – 2 times
1 – 5
2 – 4
3 – 6
4 – 5
5 – 1
7 – 1
That doesn’t include today, since it was a purposely abbreviated start. And half of his starts have been 6 innings or more. So, I’m gonna have to agree with you there, considering he’s only given up more than 4 runs twice. When he’s bad, he still limits damage. When Burnett is bad, it gets really ugly.
Plus, Burnett leads the universe in walks. Can’t give up free passes all the time.
BNO August 30th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
If Burnett has that outing in the playoffs… he could very well be on the losing end of a 3-1 game.
One bad pitch may be all it takes to lose a game in October.
He’s not going to get 9 lives there.
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I said if he takes that kind of stuff to the mound. He was filthy that day.
And contrary to popular belief, pitchers don’t have to be perfect in October. Some good pitchers on other teams will have bad nights, too. They are not all going to pitch well. I’ll guarantee you that.
CC doesn’t have the best postseason track record, just saying.
So it’s not like he is destined to dominate while AJ is destined to fail.
“Take away those starts at Fenway I think he has a 3.40 era”
Doesn’t work that way. Take away his three BEST starts and his ERA in his other 23 starts is 4.72. He can be great, but he’s not reliable.
If the Twins make it to the postseason over the Tigers that would be great because the Yankees have always dominated the Twins. The pitchers would only have to worry about the M & M Boys. Their pitching is alright and their bullpen sucks, and they always seem to be afraid of the Yankees.
Rob,
Thanks for those stats. Despite what the haters say, Joba has generally kept us in every game and has rarely blown up completely like AJ did in Fenway.
Maybe he gets lucky, but he has had the tendency to limit the damage.
Espn.com describes Aceves as having provided stellar relief!
I’m glad Mitre had a great outing,he must be stoked too.
TOR August 30th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
CC doesn’t have the best postseason track record, just saying.
So it’s not like he is destined to dominate while AJ is destined to fail.
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And taking numbers from the past doesn’t mean jack this season.
Kenny Rogers was about as terrible of a postseason pitcher as it got prior to 2006.
Obviously, history didn’t repeat itself that October.
None of the postseason numbers of the past are relevant this season, whether they are good or bad.
TOR
Postseason track records don’t mean much all the time. Look at Kenny Rogers, the worst postseason performer (Kenny Rogers) was brilliant in that postseason. CC is a more talented pitcher then Rogers so who’s to say he might not be brilliant.
Why should bunny the troll leave – -
He has made a little over 20 comments in this thread and has had close to 30 responses. For him/her mission accomplished.
Wise up Lohud; Pete says ignore them!
Reality Check
August 30th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
“Take away those starts at Fenway I think he has a 3.40 era”
Doesn’t work that way. Take away his three BEST starts and his ERA in his other 23 starts is 4.72. He can be great, but he’s not reliable.
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I think that shows that he has been good/consistent for the entire season. That would make him pretty reliable.
What works in CC’s favor this post season,is he didn’t have with the BREWERS OR INDIAN,this line up backing him up offensively.
The Yanks also don’t have to ride Sabathia to get to the postseason this year. He certainly won’t have to pitch on three days rest like he did quite a bit last year.
He shouldn’t be nearly that worn down this time around.
Giuseppe Franco
Is right. Look at Beckett one of the best postseason starters career wise was one of the worst during last years postseason
Bunny was ran off,no mission accomplished on his part.
Jeremy~
don’t forget Weaver with the Marlins,he forgot how to pitch too!
Soriano couldn’t hit either~
Take out CC’s 3 worst starts, his ERA is 2.98
Take out Andy’s, his ERA is 3.58
You can play that game with any starter.
Take out Beckett’s worst 3 and I’m sure his ERA is just under 3.
I think CC won’t feel a lot of pressure like he had to with the Indians and Brewers because he was the only reliable, good pitcher. He has A.J. and Andy backing him up with a good bullpen. And when Joba is on he has him backing him up, with a great offense. I think CC will be just fine, and I’m sure Andy will tell him to just go out there and pitch his game.
“I think that shows that he has been good/consistent for the entire season.”
Good? Yeah. Consistent? Anything but.
Cards have 5 days off in AUG.
La Russa boast, the Cards will be the most rested team in post season.
Yeah look at Weaver with the Cardinals in the 2006 postseason, he was like Cy young LOL !
I’m pro-aboration as it relates to Josh Beckett.
(the word you were futilely reaching for is ‘aberration’.)
Reality Check
August 30th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
“I think that shows that he has been good/consistent for the entire season.”
Good? Yeah. Consistent? Anything but.
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He has pitched at least 6 innings in 21 out of his 26 starts. I think that is being pretty consistent.
Beckett is good but we will see this postseason. He needs to get his act together if he wants to be effective.
I say CC ends up at around 230 innings this season.
2007 253 inn.
2008 252 inn.
A blog pet? All the strays do seem to follow someone home.
I’m not sure I would bet against the Red Sox playing in the ALDS. Is that controversial?
“I’m not sure I would bet against the Red Sox playing in the ALDS. Is that controversial?”
You’re a boat rocker.
Nick
Them playing in the ALDS isn’t controversial.
Them winning the ALCS would be controversial here.
Playing in as in making it that far. As in, winning the Wild Card. Maybe the other way too, but we’ll see.
CC pitching less innings is a great thing heading into the postseason, and on top of that he won’t be pitching on 3 days rest for 4 weeks down the stretch. I personally believe he will do good in the postseason because he will have confidence being on a really good team.
Nick in SF in Lake Tahoe
I actually hope that the Sox make it so they can eliminate the Angels first round like they always do.
Can anyone explain to me wat the difrence from 100 pitches in say 5 innings to 100 pitches in 9.Shouldnt the yankees be limiting the pitches joba trows per game nopt innings or is there somthing to it
Thanks to Ron for organizing the LoHud get together today in Scranton. My gf and I had a lot of fun. Hope we can do it again next year.
Pete, it was great meeting you, thanks for coming and bringing a bunch of free stuff, got a passport holder just in time for my trip it Italy…
Oh oh calling CC a boy.Tarzan’s kid,Never call a black man a BOY,ever.
Boy died,
Chettah quit,
Don’use that word.
or call him it!!
Got it,dig it,understand it,peace out!
Hey Nick-
I’m in Lake Tahoe too, in Squaw Valley.
For all of you at the outing today, it was great meeting you guys. Such a nice group of people. Free stuff is always fun too.
Let bullpen get 6 innings RIGHT BEFORE road trip, I think this is horrible idea.
Why is there a new Jaba rule? How stupid is this? It’s not like you are that far ahead of Sox. We all know most likely Jaba won’t start a playoff game, the point is, why bother now?
TheRoarOf84 wrote:
post season tends to be WORLDS different from reg season. in 2006 we went on a mudslide in the final month to just barely get in, only to be one crazy force in the playoffs as yr Yanks well know. Yr offense was minimal in our series at Yankee stadium this season as 9 runs were all you got to our lousy 5. We crave just one more shot at that 250ft little league porch which is the main reason y’all are doing anything at all (no dis for CC and the staff). I just want one more shot at blasting a line drive down Joba’s loud, ugly, gaping mouth….. but, may the best team win!!
I was talking to some Tiger Fans on Mlb.com and
this is what some Tiger fan said about the Yankees. This guy is very arrogant and doesn’t realize that this Yankee team is different.
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JZ
August 31st, 2009 at 12:29 am
Let bullpen get 6 innings RIGHT BEFORE road trip, I think this is horrible idea.
Why is there a new Jaba rule? How stupid is this? It’s not like you are that far ahead of Sox. We all know most likely Jaba won’t start a playoff game, the point is, why bother now?
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OK, I’ll bite since everyone else is probably asleep.
How is the bullpen so taxed before the big bad road trip? The only person unavailable tomorrow is Aceves. Hughes threw 12 pitches and would’ve been needed anyway. Marte pitched to one batter. Robertson and Coke each threw 12 pitches.
If you’re a Yankee fan, you better hope Joba is ready to start in the playoffs. If we’re lucky enough to get to the ALCS, it might be nice to have him functioning on all cylinders.
You bother now because the Yankees are trying to protect Joba from needing a little something called Tommy John surgery next year. Studies show this is a good way to do that.
You may have noticed we won today, so the Yankees are doing something right.
Some people just need to find reasons to complain.
sorry i couldn’t make it this year… just been busy
but glad it was a success, it seems