Game 134: Yankees at Blue Jays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 03, 2009 
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YANKEES (85-48)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cani 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Chad Gaudin (1-0, 3.21).
BLUE JAYS (59-73)
Scutaro SS
Hill 2B
Lind LF
Overbay 1B
Wells CF
Ruiz DH
Snider RF
Bautista 3B
Chavez C
Pitching: LHP Ricky Romero (11-6, 3.95).
TIME/TV: 7:07, YES.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees have won six straight, seven of eight and 23 of their last 29. They lead the Red Sox by 7.5 games in the American League East and the Angels by 6.5 games in the race for home field advantage in the playoffs.
STATE OF THE JAYS: Yikes. Toronto was 27-14 on May 18 and led the division by 3.5 games. They are 32-59 (.352) since. The Jays have lost three straight, six of seven and 14 of their last 18.
A LITTLE BIT LUCKY: The Yankees have a run differential of +141 (now the best in the majors, by the way). Based on the Pythagorean winning percentage determined by Bill James, the Yankees should have 79 wins.
THE JETER METER: Derek Jeter has 2,713 career hits. He needs only nine more to pass Lou Gehrig for the most in franchise history.
HOMER HAPPY: The Yankees have hit 208 homers, a pace that would give them 253 for the season. The franchise record is 242 by the 2004 team. The Major League record is 264 by the 1997 Seattle Mariners.
JOHNNY DANGEROUSLY: Johnny Damon has a seven-game hit streak that has bumped his batting average up to .293.
A-ROD ON A ROLL: Alex Rodrigez has hit in 11 straight at 18 of 43 (.419), albeit with only three extra-base hits. He has 11 RBI in that stretch. His batting average has climbed from .254 to .274.
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES: Closer for the weekend Philip J. Hughes of Orange County has a 1.14 ERA in 31 relief appearances. Check out his last 10 outings:
10 innings, 5 hits, 0 runs, 3 walks, 14 strikeouts. Remember these days when he wins the Cy Young in 2011 in his second full season as a starter.
DOMINATION: The Yankees have outscored their foes 47-14 in their six-game win streak.
THIS CAN’T BE TRUE, BUT SOMEHOW IT IS: Jeter is 3 of his last 13.
GODZILLA SLUMPING: Hideki Matsui is 4 of his last 24 with two RBI.
THE MELKMAN: Melky Cabrera is 10 of 24 in his last six games. He’s up to .274.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Someone Else’s Bell by Squeeze.
Back with much more later on.
UPDATE, 2:41 p.m.: Jon Albaladejo was called up.
UPDATE, 5:50 p.m.: A few updates from the clubhouse: Mariano Rivera will not pitch today and could pitch a brief bullpen tomorrow. But as he said, if he feels anything, he’ll shut it down and try again in a few days. … Albaladejo looks like Carlo after Sonny Corleone got through with him on the street. He has two black eyes and a big cut on his forehead. He was playing catch with Edwar Ramirez on Monday and missed a ball that cut. It conked him in the noggin. Albie was worried he wouldn’t get called up, but he recovered quickly and here is is. … Joba talked about his start tomorrow but when I asked him whether he needed to start getting better results, he said he has been pitching well. Somebody needs to show him the stats. … If you’re expecting Girardi to hold Jeter out so he can break the hits record at home, forget it. Jeter wants it over and done with. The man is not much for milestones, however significant.
UPDATE, 5:56 p.m.: George Steinbrenner speaks! This from the AP:
George Steinbrenner is planning to travel to New York for some postseason games if the AL East-leading Yankees make the playoffs.
Steinbrenner spent three hours in his office at the team’s spring-training complex Thursday. When asked about the Yankees’ solid play, the 79-year-old owner said: “Let’s keep it going.”
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: We are underway from the Rogers Centre. Sparse crowd on hand for the game. The roof is open and it’s a pleasant night. 71 degrees. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: And the Yankees lead 3-0. Ricky Romero is pitching like Cesar Romero. Ugly baseball by the Jays, too, as Travis Snider let a ball get by him in RF.
UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: OK, Chad Gaudin, they gave you a 4-0 lead and you’re facing a team that has made October tee times. You should be able to go a solid six innings.
UPDATE, 7:45 p.m.: Romero strikes out the side. Jeter now 3 of his last 15.
UPDATE, 7:48 p.m.: Jeter with the UZR, whatever that means.
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Sorry for the lack of updates, Chad Gaudin is putting me to sleep. Yankees 5-0 here in the fourth inning and Gaudin has put seven men on base in 3.1 innings.
UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: The No. 9 hitter of a horrendous team is 2 for 2 with an RBI against Gaudin. Yankees 5-1 and Toronto has the tying run at the plate with one out. They better get one of their 54 relievers up soon.
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: Brutal effort here by Gaudin. Just awful. It was 5-0 and you let a team that quit weeks ago back into the game.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: Ace slams the door. This could be another one of those 3.2-inning relief wins that Aceves specializes in. He has been immensely valuable in that role.
UPDATE, 8:54 p.m.: Romero has seven strikeouts and six walks. He’s at 91 pitches and won’t be around much longer.
UPDATE, 8:56 p.m.: A-Rod continues to keep it simple and effective, driving an RBI single into center field. His team gets back in the game and Romero walks two guys to start the next inning. Cito Gaston has to have something better to do than manage this team.
UPDATE, 9:12 p.m.: The lead is back to four runs. Let’s see if Aceves can bring some sanity to this game.
UPDATE, 9:22 p.m.: Atta boy, Derek. Bunting with a four-run lead in the sixth inning to get a runner to third. Why not? It’s not like you’re one of the best hitters in the history of a celebrated franchise.
UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Nice sacrifice. There is less chance to score with a runner on third and one out then there is with a runner on second and no outs. For a guy who was supposed to down with such metrics, how does Joe Girardi not understand that?
UPDATE, 9:35 p.m.: Chavez is 3 for 3 with two doubles and two RBI for the Jays.
UPDATE, 9:38 p.m.: Unreal. There was a foul ball on the first-base side and a fan threw it back on the field and nearly hit Aceves.
Toronto has some of the worst fans in the league and there is another example. There have been several incidents of fans throwing debris on the field this season and now this happens.
This is why that foolish “tradition” of throwing home run balls back on the field needs to be stopped. It’s a matter of time before some drunk hits a player and causes an injury. A fan who throws a ball back on the field should be arrested and prosecuted.
Now the Toronto fans are booing and heckling security as they look for the offender.
UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: Yankees take a 7-5 lead into the eighth inning of a slow-moving game. I need to get cracking on my newspaper story. Back with more after the game.
GTLU is closed.
Jonathan Albaladejo has been recalled.
boston’s farm is where the yankees were 5 years ago.
boston has nothing, and the guys they do hype just aren’t very good.
Wasn’t Jed Lowrie the second coming?
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 8 to tie #4)
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
If the Yanks lose more than 8 games from here on in I’d be surprised – calling off the dogs or not.
Player’s list
Erica(2:13 PM)
Upstate Kate(2:13 PM)
CT 23(2:17 PM)
Joey Vegas(2:17 PM), Clark(2:52 PM), Chet(2:52 PM)
Henner(2:20 PM)
Bill(2:49 PM), Ray VT(2:57 PM)
66 Stripes(2:53 PM)
Gates(2:55 PM)
Ed H(3:28 PM)
“Jonathan Albaladejo has been recalled.”
why? and for who?
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!”
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
“Jonathan Albaladejo has been recalled.”
why? and for who?
probably a faulty Fetzer valve
“If the Yanks lose more than 8 games from here on in I’d be surprised – calling off the dogs or not.”
Get ready to be surprised then.
“why? and for who?”
The rosters expanded, and why not?
For no one. they dont need to send someone down in september to bring someone up. did you see the weekend’s pitching lineup? yanks need all the pen they can get, especially with rivera out.
Albaladejo was supposed to be recalled on Sept. 1st but he was hit by a thrown ball in the face on Aug. 31st and the Yankees did not want him to travel until the swelling went down. I guess he is ok and he might be needed in this weekend series where Gaudin, Joba and Mitre are all pitching. If the three of them give us 15 innings combined out of the 27 in those three games we should be happy.
Jeter in a mini slump? thats ok, we would all like to see him break the record at the stadium anyways.
You know what’s funny, all of the “experts” who were calling that Toronto was going to join Tampa, Boston and the Yankees in battling for a playoff spot. It just goes to show you don’t get to high or too low until at least the AS Break. April and May’s games count for sure but they don’t tell the whole story.
I’m still laughing at ESPN’s Baseball Tonight guys who were already calling that the big $ free agent deals for CC, AJ and Tex hadn’t worked out as well as the Yankees expected them to on May 10th or 11th. Could you give these guys more than 30 games before you start to make such comments?
today’s lineup=regular lineup so no one wins it for the second day. Joe G wins again
“why? and for who?”
With Gaudin, Mitre, and Joba going this weekend, plus a twin bill on Monday, the ‘pen can use another arm. Plus the next three games are w/o Mo. They Yankees have some of the post-September 1st 40 man Roster spots open.
The bullpen is going to get worked this weekend… Gaudin, Joba, and Mitre going.
Blueshirt Brawler
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
You know what’s funny, all of the “experts” who were calling that Toronto was going to join Tampa, Boston and the Yankees in battling for a playoff spot. It just goes to show you don’t get to high or too low until at least the AS Break. April and May’s games count for sure but they don’t tell the whole story.
I’m still laughing at ESPN’s Baseball Tonight guys who were already calling that the big $ free agent deals for CC, AJ and Tex hadn’t worked out as well as the Yankees expected them to on May 10th or 11th. Could you give these guys more than 30 games before you start to make such comments?
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Similarly, its ridiculous to be talking about a Triple Crown threat in June/July. Albert Pujols, great as he is, is about forty points off in the batting race, now third in the league rbi and is trying to hold off Mark Reynolds for tops in home runs
Why did Girardi bring Bruney in a one-run game, when he blew chunks on Monday?
Shouldn’t he have used Robertson or even Ace to cover the 8th?
Cani was called up, too? I’ve heard good things.
crawdaddy
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
“If the Yanks lose more than 8 games from here on in I’d be surprised – calling off the dogs or not.”
“Get ready to be surprised then.”
That’s my story and I’m stickin to it.
“Why did Girardi bring Bruney in a one-run game, when he blew chunks on Monday?”
Because Girardi wants to trust Bruney and give him a chance to pitch himself back into usefulness. However, Bruney is doing a great job pitching himself into oblivion.
Today is Thursday yet somebody wants to talk about a game on Monday that we won. By the way, it was a four run lead when he came in on Monday.
Donson
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Cani was called up, too? I’ve heard good things.
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He probably just meant Cano. The I and O are next to each other so it could have been a typo
And it was two run lead yesterday.
Bruney is going to make the postseason roster, and he’s going to be pitching in many big spots in the 7th inning before Hughesy comes in.
Book it.
All I know is my son was born on Saturday. The Yankees have been undefeated since he has been alive. I found out we were having a boy on Opening Day right before I left for the game. Friday night we left for the hospital just after Cano’s walk off. He is the Yankees new good luck charm and I doubt they lose again. I also love it because my wife and her family are Sox fans. I know have a new member of Yankees Universe to watch the games with !!!!
“That’s my story and I’m stickin to it.”
I hope you’re right and the next eight games will go a long way in finding that out.
So much for Pythagoreaus!!
The Phranchise
Congrats!
Excellent a little preview on how Hughes will perform in his future roll.
Dan-O
Gawd, I hope not. Bruney is another Kevin Brown.
This is going to be an ineresting series. Dawn Boston got it easy, they play the white sox hopefully the Chicago team take at lease 2 games if 3 awsome. To give texa a chance to gain some ground
Congrats The Phranchise.
My daughter was born the weekend that the Giants turned around their season in 2007. They were 0-2 and on the verge of going 0-3 vs. Washington and they put up a goal line stand that changed the season. And watching the game in my wife’s hospital room (who happens to be a huge Jets fan) was all the more sweeter.
Guess the Lineup Winners
Clint(9/1)
Joe Girardi(9/2, 9/3)
The Phranchise and Blushirt Brawler,
please have more kids
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Thanks all. Very psyched. I am thinking he might take over for Phil or Joba when they are retiring haha.
I wouldn’t put Bruney on the post-season roster just yet.
If they go with 11 pitchers, do the math.
CC, AJ, Pettitte, Joba, Mo, Aceves and Hughes are locks.
Girardi will want 2 lefties in the pen so, pencil in Marte and Coke.
That leaves 2 slots. You have to think Robertson has one spot locked up since he has outpitched everybody in the pen except Mo and Hughes the last 2 1/2 months.
One spot remains and its between Gaudin and Bruney, IMO.
Whomever pitches the best in the next 3-4 weeks wins the job.
Ledger_Yankees Holy smokes, Albaladejo looks like he just went 15 rounds with Iron Mike Tyson. Two black eyes after getting smoked by Edwar. –Carig
from nj ledger tweet
Can’t wait to hear Michael Kay explain how he remembers Jonathan Albaladejo’s name: “It’s like Jessica Alba, then la dayho.”! Haven’t heard that enough this year! (sarcasm!)
“Excellent a little preview on how Hughes will perform in his future roll.”
Hughes is going to be a starter. The future closer’s role is going to go to one of three people once Mo retires. And that’s Joba, Robertson or Melancon. Unless of course the Yankees want to steal Papelbon from Boston. Because he is very unhappy with his contract up in Beantown. I don’t think the Yankees would be interested per se but if you look at his numbers in the postseason perhaps they should be. He’s never given up a run in 16 appearance covering 25IP. I’d say that’s pretty impressive.
They don’t need to “gain ground” on the Red Sox at this point.
The division race is over.
Only the ridiculously paranoid will worry about the Red Sox catching the Yankees at this point.
Its all about staying healthy, playing smart, and figuring out the final 2-3 spots on the post-season roster.
Congratulations, The Phranchise! Welcome to your little baseball buddy!
Tonight is a must win game. We have Joba on the mound tomorrow and Mitre on the mound on Sunday. We must win this to put us in position to win the series.
C’mon Zach, a must win game? Are you serious? They are 7.5 games ahead. They could drop 3 of 4 this weekend and still have a comfortable lead. I don’t expect the Yankees to lose but it’s not like they are chasing anyone.
I am so tired of this “must win” game talk
wow, I can’t believe no one guessed the regular line up, Girardi must have us all psyched out.
Phranchise- did you name your son Phil?
LOL@ the children believing this is a must win game.
The only “must win” games remaining will be in the post-season.
We are past the “must win” game phase of the season.
Uncle Ellsworth — A Drowning Mona reference in your first post on this thread??? Genius!
A must-win game tonight! I didn’t realize it was mid-October already. I know the weather has gotten cooler here in NYC, but if my memory served me I thought there were 30 games left in the regular season. Is this a new part of Bud Selig’s plan to expand the playoffs?
As far as I am concerned the only “must win” games this weekend are me and my dad in Scrabble at the beach.
I am on a ridiculous losing streak
it’s is a must win…. For Boston, Tampa and Texas. For the Yankees, it is a ‘please keep playing hard even though they are up 7.5 games” game.
re: HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHES
don’t forget- thats Orange County – CALIFORNIA!
I would not put Bruney on the postseason roster. He is too unpredictable. Gaudin is not as talented as Bruney, but he is more consistent. Also, you need someone durable who can eat some innings if a game gets out of hand or goes into extra innings.
If it comes down to Gaudin or Bruney for the last spot, I go with Gaudin.
A must win game?
Stop it.
They have a 7.5 game lead. The division race is over, and likely the race for homefield is over as well.
Congratulations Phranchise!
“Erica – always OPPC
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
As far as I am concerned the only “must win” games this weekend are me and my dad in Scrabble at the beach.
I am on a ridiculous losing streak”
This patient needs to be quoned.
must win? what?
I am leaving Bruney off my preliminary postseason roster
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 8 to tie #4)
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
“Erica – always OPPC
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
As far as I am concerned the only “must win” games this weekend are me and my dad in Scrabble at the beach.
I am on a ridiculous losing streak”
This patient needs to be quoned.
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You need a medical dictionary
I love watching teh MLB Network. It’s practically all about the Yankees. The last hour has been chock full of amazing Babe Ruth and Roger Maris footage.
Uncle Ellsworth (#2 needs 8 to tie #4)
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
“Erica – always OPPC
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
As far as I am concerned the only “must win” games this weekend are me and my dad in Scrabble at the beach.
I am on a ridiculous losing streak”
This patient needs to be quoned.
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Challenge! Quoned is NOT a word LOL
Pete – Squeeze!! Nice choice.
The only MUST for the Yankees is staying healthy & rested. Still one more West Coast trip …. always a long, long trip.
Jeter,Damon,Teixiera,A-Rod,Matsui,Posada,Cano,Swisher,Melky Gardner, Hinskie, Molina & Hairston.
Sabathia,Burnett,Pettitte,Chamberlain,Mo,Hughes,Coke,Marte, Bruney,Robertson, Aceves & Gaudin.
Unless I am missing someone I think they both Bruney and Gaudin would make the postseason roster. I dont think Mitre is going to be on the postseason roster. If Melancon pitches well you can put him on the postseason roster instead of Gaudin. I think Bruney will make the postseason roster if he doesn’t pitch well down the stretch he probably just wont get used in postseason games though.
“If the patient is difficult you quone him”
Who agrees?
what the yankees CAN do with this last month is prove they can win games in anaheim. 5 wins the last 3 years or something like that? at home it isnt too bad but there it is brutal. good time to hit them now, while their pitching is struggling.
Can’t wait to see this Cani kid play.
Congrats, Phranchise! Is his name Phil? LOL
Bodh, from before – just wanted to say that I am so glad about your friend’s good news. That’s fantastic. My dad went in for a biopsy today on a lump they found on his ankle…..more like a small bump. I’m more worried than he is – he told me to calm down, lol, but when I hear biopsy, I think cancer……My cousin died of bone cancer. I’m trying to be positive, but I really hope those test results come in soon.
Sabathia,Burnett,Pettitte,Chamberlain,Mo,Hughes,Coke,Marte, Bruney,Robertson, Aceves & Gaudin.
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Mitre over Gaudin if it comes down to one of them.
Did you change Robinson Ca(NO) hit with risp to Ca(N I) because all of a sudden he can?
see posted lineup
Rob i actually heard Cani is ever better than Cano.
I still think there’s a good chance that Joba won’t be on the ALDS roster. Other’s think they’ll use him out of the bullpen, but I dont think that’s going to happen.
If they finish up with the best record(looks very likely now), then they won’t need a 4th starter and I think they’ll leave him off and keep him in his routine for the ALCS.
Gaudin > Bruney
(regardless of what he does tonight)
CountryClub
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I still think there’s a good chance that Joba won’t be on the ALDS roster. Other’s think they’ll use him out of the bullpen, but I dont think that’s going to happen.
If they finish up with the best record(looks very likely now), then they won’t need a 4th starter and I think they’ll leave him off and keep him in his routine for the ALCS.
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Jobas on the roster
benfica356 September 3rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
today’s lineup=regular lineup so no one wins it for the second day. Joe G wins again
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One of the things that killed the 2008 Yanks was never having a “regular lineup”. Good that we have one now.
Only the ridiculously paranoid will worry about the Red Sox catching the Yankees at this point.
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in other words, about 30% of the the LoHud bloggers.
if I used emoticons, there’d be a winkie here.
yeah i don’t really see them leaving Joba off the roster.
CountryClub
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I still think there’s a good chance that Joba won’t be on the ALDS roster. Other’s think they’ll use him out of the bullpen, but I dont think that’s going to happen.
If they finish up with the best record(looks very likely now), then they won’t need a 4th starter and I think they’ll leave him off and keep him in his routine for the ALCS.
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Wouldn’t Joba be scheduled to pitch game 5 of the alds? Unless they want to use Burnett on 3 days rest to pitch that game.
The Phranchise: Congrats!
ROBBIE CANI!!! DON’T YA KNEE!!!!
Cani homers into the Sea.
Anyone? Anyone?
Wouldn’t Joba be scheduled to pitch game 5 of the alds? Unless they want to use Burnett on 3 days rest to pitch that game.
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Schedule A goes:
Game 1: CC
Game 2: AJ
game 3: Pettitte
game 4: CC
Game 5: AJ
you can replace AJ with pettitte and vice versa if you want, but that is all on normal rest
I’m thinking that Gaudin will only give us 5 innings tonight. If so, I wonder who will close out the game. Right now I’m thinking Mark Melancon (up to 2 innings), Damaso Marte (one inning) and Dave Robertson (up to 2 innings). That would allow us to save Alfredo Aceves for tomorrow’s game with Joba. Can anyone think of anyone else for tonight?
Seven
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Jeter,Damon,Teixiera,A-Rod,Matsui,Posada,Cano,Swisher,Melky Gardner, Hinskie, Molina & Hairston.
Sabathia,Burnett,Pettitte,Chamberlain,Mo,Hughes,Coke,Marte, Bruney,Robertson, Aceves & Gaudin.
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My preliminary postseason roster is almost identical to yours, but I put Mitre on over Bruney
Cani —> plural of Cano. Expect big things tonight.
“Someone Else’s Bell” is a very fine song from the Elvis Costello-produced “East Side Story”, which is a very fine album.
I think my favorite track from that record is “Picadilly”, which has the line “She hooks up her cupcakes and puts on her jumper.”
I’m down with quone.
I still think that Melancon has a chance to make it too over Bruney if he dominates september.
The Phranchise: Congratulations!!! Your son is already a true Yankee fan, only a few days old and helping the team win.
When are we going to see Edwar, Melancon, or Dunn?
I’m sick of seeing Bruney, Cokey, and the usual relievers. Let’s see the new blood.
Trade News: Garland, Penny, Cameron
http://msn.foxsports.com/other.....ron,-Penny
According to Rosenthal, Penny rejected the Yanks for the NL and the Yanks-Brewers discussed a Mike Cameron deal again but Yanks didn’t want to add payroll or cut Melky’s playing time. According to Jayson Stark, they passed on Garland in the end, deciding he wasn’t a difference maker in the AL East.
Via tweet
@Ledger_Yankees: ARod (in the line-up) wearing a bandage on his left shin.
I’d rather carry Pena than the extra pitcher.
That way we can pinch run more freely and still have the utility INF on the bench.
“I’m down with quone”
giddy- up
saw edwar, been there. want to see melancon and dunn though. get to a 10-0 lead tonight and maybe we will although i still trust melancon’s limited experience over this version of Brian Bruney.
pat
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Via tweet
@Ledger_Yankees: ARod (in the line-up) wearing a bandage on his left shin.
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Well, he did foul a ball of that leg again last night. Last time he did that, he sat out a game or two.
am i crazy for liking Mitre over Gaudin?
There is no way Joba will not be on the ALDS roster. Even if he doesn’t start a game he will be used in some capacity or another.
Couple hours till game time.
Who would be a good DH next year?
They’re not gonna bring Nady or Zilla back.
Do they go with Hinske or for a minimal price do they bring in a Jim Thome type.
As someone mentioned above, ALDS A has 3 off days. So you only need 3 starters and none of them would have to go on short rest. If the Yanks have the best record they can choose which series (A or B) they want. They would obviously pick the seires where their 3 best starters pitch all 5 games.
To be clear, I’m not saying that Joba SHOULD be left off the ALDS roster. But I think it’s a legit possibility that the Yanks dont want to mess with him by putting him in the pen.
Oh and at this point I see CC, AP and then AJ as your 1,2,3
saucY
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
am i crazy for liking Mitre over Gaudin?
No.
“If the patient is difficult you quone him”
Who agrees?
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I can’t agree, Uncle E. If the patient is difficult, why would you want two of them?
“am i crazy for liking Mitre over Gaudin?”
That depends, was there a coin flip involved?
am i crazy for liking Mitre over Gaudin?
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No, they both have their strong points and I like having both of them.
Mitre – Ground balls, doesn’t really walk anyone, can get a couple of K’s, prone to giving up hits via bad luck / hard contact if his stuff is up
Gaudin – Tons of K’s, hard to hit, prone to walking people, if he loses the zone its a rough outing
“If the patient is difficult you quone him”
Who agrees?
Kramer
Any word on AJ’s struggles? Is he burnt?
Yanks don’t need another “Thome type” with so many of the core in their 30′s they will use the DH to rotate days off for those guys every week. I see Damon, assuming he gets signed again, being more of a DH next year so they can get ajax up, unless of course they bring Matsui back and want to live with Damon back in left for a full season. I can live with that for Matsui, but no other DH out there would really be worth it in my opinion.
Who’s quoning whom???
I am OUT like trout!!! Catch you all when I get home much later tonight!!!
http://stations.espn.go.com/st.....id=3480300
CC Sabathia interview.
Erica – always OPPC
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Who’s quoning whom???
I am OUT like trout!!! Catch you all when I get home much later tonight!!!
Hot Date?
MikBoston
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
There is no way Joba will not be on the ALDS roster. Even if he doesn’t start a game he will be used in some capacity or another.
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Yeah even if he doesn’t start. He could work out of the bullpen as a long man if a starter struggles.
Damon is still quick enough to play LF. I see Matsui returning to the yankees for 1 year or retiring if we win a WS as a platoon DH. WE might bring back Nady as the oppo side of the platoon and as a guy who can play RF. He would be wise to take a 1 year contract to build his value back up.
Then we have:
Melky – CF/RF/LF
Gardner – CF/LF/RF
Swisher – LF/RF/CF
Nady – RF/LF/DH
Matsui – DH/BENCH
Damon – LF/DH
Having a guy like Matsui on the bench is a huge plus.
thanks all for confirming my sanity
The Yankees have a run differential of +141 (now the best in the majors, by the way). Based on the Pythagorean winning percentage determined by Bill James, the Yankees should have 79 wins.
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If the Yanks may have been “a little bit lucky” then the Angels have been really lucky.
Team +/-
LA Angels 7.8
St. Louis 7.2
Seattle 6.1
Philadelphia 5.8
Boston 5.6
Texas 5.1
NY Yankees 5.1
Detroit 4.5
LA Dodgers 4.3
San Francisco 4.1
Colorado 3.3
Florida 3.1
Tampa Bay 1.8
Houston 1.6
Chicago Cubs 0.1
Minnesota -0.0
Milwaukee -0.4
Atlanta -0.4
San Diego -0.7
Cincinnati -1.3
Chicago Sox -1.5
NY Mets -3.6
Arizona -4.8
Oakland -5.3
Cleveland -6.8
Toronto -7.4
Kansas City -7.6
Baltimore -8.2
Pittsburgh -8.5
Washington -14.6
Cani?
Anon September 3rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Cani?
Called up from AA
Well, Girardi has to determine who has the best chance to pitch a couple of clean innings in a 10-2 game in the playoffs, if there is one— Mitre or Gaudin.
oops, I messed that up. Here it is again.
Team +/-
Seattle 9.3
San Diego 6.9
Houston 6.7
NY Yankees 5.1
Florida 3.8
Cincinnati 3.7
LA Angels 3.6
Detroit 3.5
St. Louis 2.5
San Francisco 1.7
Texas 1.7
Milwaukee 1.2
Philadelphia 0.6
NY Mets 0.2
Boston 0.2
Kansas City 0.1
Minnesota -0.5
Chicago Sox -0.9
Colorado -1.0
Chicago Cubs -1.3
Tampa Bay -2.5
Oakland -3.2
LA Dodgers -3.2
Baltimore -3.5
Arizona -3.6
Pittsburgh -4.0
Atlanta -4.4
Cleveland -5.1
Toronto -7.7
Washington -8.3
Given what he’s shown, David Robertson deserves to be on the playoff roster.
Bruney continues to think that all he needs to do is throw 95 MPH heaters without consideration of the strike zone. He’s not in the circle of trust at this point and is not cashing in with opportunities. Time is running out.
I like Bruney… the guy throws in the mid 90s with a nice slider. Not many guys have his stuff. He could get key strikeouts in the postseason.
To get him out of his slump… maybe it’s time to drain Matsui’s knees again?
Jerkface September 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Damon is still quick enough to play LF. I see Matsui returning to the yankees for 1 year or retiring if we win a WS as a platoon DH. WE might bring back Nady as the oppo side of the platoon and as a guy who can play RF. He would be wise to take a 1 year contract to build his value back up.
Then we have:
Melky – CF/RF/LF
Gardner – CF/LF/RF
Swisher – LF/RF/CF
Nady – RF/LF/DH
Matsui – DH/BENCH
Damon – LF/DH
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That’s six guys. Add 4 infielders and 2 catchers and you have a full compliment of position players without any backup infielders. Do you think that may be a problem?
I say zero chance that xman comes back. Does anyone know how long swish is signed for?
I hope this Cani kid playing 2B tonight can come through big.
Swish is signed thur 2012
This “Pythagorean Winning Percentage” thingy is the most ridiculous alleged statistic I have ever seen. Who ever heard of a statistic that measures luck? It’s based upon unproven assumptions and uses descriptive formulas as if they were predictive, which they are not.
That’s six guys. Add 4 infielders and 2 catchers and you have a full compliment of position players without any backup infielders. Do you think that may be a problem?
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25 Man Roster
Posada
Cervelli
Teixeira
Cano
Jeter
A-rod
Damon
Melky
Gardner
Swisher
Nady
Matsui
Sabathia
Burnett
Chamberlain
Hughes
Pettitte
Mariano
Robertson
Melancon
Marte
Coke
Aceves
Bruney/Whoever
Backup IF: Pena
Pena backs up: 3rd, Short, Second, OF
Swisher backs up: 1B, OF
Nady backs up: DH, OF, 1B (learn it you bum!)
This “Pythagorean Winning Percentage” thingy is the most ridiculous alleged statistic I have ever seen. Who ever heard of a statistic that measures luck? It’s based upon unproven assumptions and uses descriptive formulas as if they were predictive, which they are not.
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Its based on the proven theory that run differential directly correlates to winning through the history of baseball. Its not hard analysis, but its fun to see what teams are scoring runs and preventing runs.
Its actually more worthwhile the lower the number is. Scoring 900 runs and giving up 750 runs might not be that awesome.
Scoring 700 runs and giving up 500 runs is much preferable.
““If the patient is difficult you quone him”
Who agrees?
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You know I agree.
Nick what the O/U on Jeter hits tonight?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy
Grats CC
“Quone”? No, I’m afraid that I’m going to have to challenge that.
Uncle Ellsworth, people are trying to sell Jeter being in some kind of a mini-slump and he is facing a tricky righty in Ricky Romero. In 6 PA’s vs. Romero our plucky Captain has three walks and zero hits.
I am setting tonight’s Jeter hit o/u at 1.5.
Ed H. September 3rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
This “Pythagorean Winning Percentage” thingy is the most ridiculous alleged statistic I have ever seen. Who ever heard of a statistic that measures luck? It’s based upon unproven assumptions and uses descriptive formulas as if they were predictive, which they are not.
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I don’t think of it as measuring luck so much as good coaching (or bad) and the ability to find a way to win (or lose).
Qoune “the posters on this blog need a quoning”
http://www.urbandictionary.com.....term=quone
Nick
“I am setting tonight’s Jeter hit o/u at 1.5.”
I’m goin over!
Also on a 400 obs watch too, he’s been at 398-9 forever now.
Nick.
Sadly, it is all coming together. Another great great day for Silver. Closed at 16.13.
-dennis
The more it’s thought about, Nick Swisher for Wilson Betemit and Jeffrey Marquez was highway robbery.
Production aside, Swisher’s clubhouse presence has been uplifting and what the team needed.
Awesome to hear from George
I’m with Big Stein. Keep the wins coming and get home field.
Speaking of George, did anyone watch the Yankeeography on him last night. I couldn’t go to bed because I had to keep watching it.
dennis, I am close to popping open some champagne — though you really don’t pop it open when it comes in a box, do you?
Anyway, will probably get out of most of my meager silver holdings tomorrow since I was just waiting for $15+. Now watch it tumble overnight…
But that’s not important now.
USC getting 4.5 vs. NCST?
Bowling Green as a home dog with 7.5 over Troy?
Utah -21 vs. Utah St. seems steep, but is it?
Ball St. -16 hosting North Texas — what is North Texas?
Oregon getting 3.5 with revenge in mind, but on the Smurf Turf???
Jeter could use a day off and 4 days on the turf is alot for your SS. They have the luxury to do it whether Jeter wants to or not.
Plus it would help with breaking the record at home. Again, I don’t care if Jeter cares or not, the fans would love it and it’s a WIN/WIN all around.
Let’s hope Giradi does the smart thing and sits him for 1 game. That would almost guarantee it will happen during the homestand.
George Steinbrenner is planning to travel to New York for some postseason games if the AL East-leading Yankees make the playoffs.
Steinbrenner spent three hours in his office at the team’s spring-training complex Thursday. When asked about the Yankees’ solid play, the 79-year-old owner said: “Let’s keep it going.”
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I echo what the Boss says. Keep it going
Nick in SF….I’m on the blue turf Boise State tonight…Just to get my feet wet….( -3.5 )
Carl September 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
http://stations.espn.go.com/st…..id=3480300
CC Sabathia interview.
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ANDREW: Are you a Knicks fan? What kind of fan of you? It would be popular for you to say your Knicks’ fan, but I have a feeling you are probably something out west?
CC: I grew up a Lakers’ fan. I lived up north so I went to a lot of Warriors’ games. I had season tickets. Now that I’m going to live here, I’m going to get me some season tickets for the Garden. I’m going to become a Knicks’ fan.
Dear CC: Please help woo your buddy LeBron to the NY Knicks.
Pat M., I am deeply unsure about that one… I do like teasing out Oregon a bit, perhaps I will do so the other way as well and make a little middle. Will be very nice to see the pigskin sailing through the air tonight.
Nick.
My plays this eve.
Over- SC/NC 46.5
Over- Troy-BG. 55.5 (Made a big play here) Please cheer for points.
Congrats on the Silver.
-dennis
Pat M.
You just gave me a reason to pull for Boise this eve..Good Luck.
What a great time of year!
-dennis
dennis, I like your thinking and I will join you in both plays. AL East solidarity. Hands across America.
Nick in SF / Dennis….I’m taking Boise State ( small play ) because they’re one of my teams this season……7 guys, $ 500.00 entry …Payoffs for total rankings ( AP ) at the end of the regular season, payoffs for final rankings, payoff for winning the BCS championship…..
Joba really needs to think before he speaks. How well has he been pitching? Is he trying to convince the public there is no room for improvement? Reading what Pete wrote makes my blood boil. The kid still has so much to learn and his actions are leading me to think he wants to learn the hard way.
My my my if this is old news, I apologize but for those who haven’t heard it, it’s bound to bring a smile. That staring fish face closer for the Sux, little Johnny Crapthebed, has been fined $5000 by MLB – and you know for what? For taking too long between pitches!!!!! I guess he’s had to go longer than ever with his ineffective fright mask since he loads the bases regularly so he mustn’t be staring in long enough.
If that isn’t funny enough, try this. It’s the 7th time this season he’s been fined for the same thing.
AWWWW. When you can only lurk but can’t comment, it must feel like you want to break out of your cage…
Ta ta, thumper.
Meh, Joba probably doesn’t care what the fans think. Nor should he.
It takes very little for Yankee fans to turn on you and we’re seeing it right now in the cases of Joba and Burnett.
Early in the season it was Teixeira, Pettitte, A-Rod, and even Mo a couple of times after bad outings.
Oh den, I don’t typically read all of the posts when I join up so I didn’t see you were here. You know it is always team and not person. Except in the case of the trollsters. Then it is more person than team.
Nick, one day I tried to ask you the name of your dog because we had the same breed when I was growing up and he was just beautiful. My guy was totally black and we called him Prince. Well the post got caught by the censor, apparently because I used the last name of the singer who sang “You Are So Beautiful”…
Geeze!
Joba pitched pretty well in his last start. At the very last, he showed flashes of improvement form his previous three. Gaudin pitched a great game against Oakland in his only other start (albeit 4.1 innings long) and Mitre took a perfect game into the 5th against the somewhat potent White Sox offense. Absolutely, these guys are not innings-eaters and it’s great that the Yankees can extend their bullpen. But they comprise a very solid back end of the rotation.
Here’s a question: Would you feel comfortable in sending Joba out for playoff game 4 against the Rangers/Tigers/Twins/Angels/Red Sox? Or A.J. for game 3 even?
Who else believes Joba should not care what the fans think? Someone forgot to take their meds today. The fans pay their salary and the fans show up to watch the game.
But that being said, Joba is talking as if he is the first 16 game winner in the A.L.
Speak the truth Joba. You have room for improvement and have not, have not been pitching well of late.
Jaewon-As of right now, I would feel much more comfortable with Burnett on the mound in a game 3. I have less confidence in Joba at this point in time.
Burnett has been there before. Joba has been to the post-season once and never as a starter. Given the choice, if the team needed a win, I would have more confidence in Burnett by far.
Nick,
Utah State will cover. Utah is breaking in two new coordinators and a new quarterback, not to mention that USU’s new head coach spent the last three years at Utah as the D.Coord. I think the o/u on the game was 45 and I would take USU and the under. Disclaimer: I am not a fan of either but of BYU, so my outlook on Utah may be slanted toward hoping they piss themselves this year.
Fair Pole,
Any fanbase that still boos it’s own players the way Yankee fans do at the Stadium doesn’t deserve a whole lot of respect.
This is the same fanbase that still boos A-Rod, which they did just last week, regardless of the season he’s having and the two MVPs he’s won since he’s been in the Bronx.
They also booed Mo and Teixeira earlier in the season, which is ludicrous.
Now don’t come back with a response that the fans are allowed to boo. Yeah, of course they are. But I’m allowed to call them idiots for doing so. This First Amendment thing works both ways.
Tigers fans are so arrogant they are so confident that they will beat the Yankees first round. You never know what will happen a short playoff series so I don’t understand the arrogance.
The Yankees are on pace for 103.5 wins.
But, if they play at the pace they have played at since A-Rod returned for the remainder of the season, their new pace would be 104.8 wins.
Had they played at the A-Rod pace for an entire season, they would have had 110.6 wins.
Interesting stuff.
First off, the comments were in response to what a member of the media asked. The fans did not ask the question, Pete did. My opinion of Joba is the same as Pete, Joba needs to see his own stats and then say how well he has pitched with a straight face???
Copelius: interesting take. The 21 is too steep for me to lay on opening night with scant knowledge but I have used the Utes in a few teasers, so I just need them to cover 11 or 8 points. Maybe I’ll tease the Utah St. Whatevers out a bit as a little hedge.
Trisha: my dog is an English Co**er Spaniel. Her name is Piper and her color is officially called Blue Roan. If I ever get around to updating mu flickr page I will post a picture, as I have a recent one of her wearing a Yankee cap.
Just read that bit on Jeter. Someone needs to talk some sense into that guy.
Dear Derek
When you break the hit record, please don’t mumble something along the lines of “I just try to be consistent, its all about winning blah blah blah”. OWN IT for once. We would really appreciate it if you came out and said “this is totally awesome.”
Signed
Yankee fans everywhere
The Fair Pole September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
First off, the comments were in response to what a member of the media asked. The fans did not ask the question, Pete did. My opinion of Joba is the same as Pete, Joba needs to see his own stats and then say how well he has pitched with a straight face???
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You asked the question whether Joba should care what the fans think.
I gave you Exhibit A why he shouldn’t.
Let Joba take the hill and do his thing. Don’t care about his PR skills.
>Had they played at the A-Rod pace for an entire season, they would have had 110.6 wins
How about if healthy Wang was in the rotation for the entire season?
You must cut Joba’s hair. That’s the only reason I can think you are backing him up so strongly.
NYY626-Great idea. If only Jeter would do that. Odds are, he will give a bland answer with no emotions.
BTW, Copelius, the # is 51.
Cone!
I’m sick of Joba and his cocky attitude. He thinks he pitched well? really?
This guy needs to be humbled… send him down to Scranton.
“How about if healthy Wang was in the rotation for the entire season?”
150
The Fair Pole September 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
You must cut Joba’s hair. That’s the only reason I can think you are backing him up so strongly.
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Yeah, that remark couldn’t be anymore lame. Try again.
I tend to side with the player when the fans show such outrage. Everyone is going to struggle at some point.
The fans don’t pay the players salaries. Take a baseball economics course so you don’t sound ignorant.
The Yankees generate enough revenue before a single ticket is sold to cover their payroll. Its like that with just about every MLB team these days.
Who cares what Joba says? Everybody can see he hasn’t pitched well lately. If he wants to put up a front when the cameras roll, that’s up to him.
Its tough to pitch well when you are in such a state of “inning limit hell” as he is right now.
Pitchers like routines and his current schedule is anything but routine.
It is what it is at this point.
Personally, I think fans have to be morons to find something to whine about with this team at this time.
Its the best Yankee team in 10 years.
Chill out and enjoy it for a change instead of finding players or nothing issues to get upset about.
Pete-Are you reading this? The blog is asking you to keep your mouth shut about Joba and stop the complaining already, HA HA HA!!
Well said, SJ. You go, bro.
To know Jetes is to love him. Nobody is more sincere in saying that those records don’t mean anything if the team doesn’t win it all.
What if the Yankees also had Babe Ruth and Ron Guidry? I say 162-0.
Bodh, from before – just wanted to say that I am so glad about your friend’s good news. That’s fantastic. My dad went in for a biopsy today on a lump they found on his ankle…..more like a small bump. I’m more worried than he is – he told me to calm down, lol, but when I hear biopsy, I think cancer……My cousin died of bone cancer. I’m trying to be positive, but I really hope those test results come in soon.
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Betsy,
Thank you for your caring words.
Please tell me your Dad’s first name. I want to pray for him. Your Dad will be fine. Try to pray when your impulse is to worry. I know how tough that is to do (all too well, I’m afraid, but I also know I am right in this). The important thing is that he knows he has you & your family.
I’m not religious – I cut through all the institutionalized, man-made judgment junk and focus on the gentle, positive power of Spirit – but I do call on the Archangel Raphael (translates as “God heals”). It’s just a simple, very private request to Raphael. Can’t hurt to ask for help
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“What if the Yankees also had Babe Ruth and Ron Guidry? I say 162-0.”
Yeah, but only if Ruth pitched and Guidry played CF.
The Fair Pole September 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Pete-Are you reading this? The blog is asking you to keep your mouth shut about Joba and stop the complaining already, HA HA HA!!
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What is wrong with you? Good grief.
Nobody said Pete should shut up. But Pete offers a lot of information as he does his job.
A lot of it is relevant and useful and some of it isn’t.
This info about Joba happens to be in the latter category.
Nice at bat Damon
walk for Damon
I am watching 4 things at once, so I might not be paying attention as closely as I should be… but there is an issue about whether Joba should care what the fans think?
How about this: Joba can say whatever the heck he wants but if he BELIEVES he’s been pitching well lately, he might want to reconsider. Unless he’s trying to employ a Jedi mind trick on himself… Joba, those aren’t the droids you’re looking for.
GJ Tex
Hey, I was told earlier that Romero was a righty yet he appears to be throwing with his left hand. What’s up with that?
Here are the lines for some special bets for tonight’s game, all over/under:
Time of first complaint about the Yankees not working the count: 7:23
Time of fist complaint about Posada not catching balls in dirt: 7:32
Number of complaints about Cani not hustling: 18
Alex looks comfortable
SUI!!!
LOL thats one way for Matsui to get a triple
If Matsui worked the count more he might have had a slam.
Yankees 3, Triple A Jays 0
Boy, are the Jays ready to go home for an early winter…
wow..that is embarassing
Nice getting Chad a few runs
I love the new Blue Jays team without Rios.
Matsui!
Nick in SF
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
If Matsui worked the count more he might have had a slam.
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Nick, you bet the under, huh? lol
Posada!!
that was some awfully bad infield play on that hit by Jorge…
MG, I bet the under when Jeter swung at the first pitch.
Wow. Just wow.
So, is this what happens when the Yankees are #1? Empty stadiums to play in? Yuck.
Nice first inning.
Romero looks really bad tonight, it’s one of the issues with young starters, not just the ones on the Yankees.
that should be good for some complaints about Cani not hustling, the Over looks pretty good right about now.
remember in may when cito gastin was manager of the year?
Sheesh, Romero looks awful
With Gaudin on the mound… we’re going to need every run
Well I Hope that the Blow Jays offense caves to the Yankees the same way they caved to the Red Sox at Fenway.
Good to hear Joba has his head on straight.
Did Swisher get traded to the Jays or something? What was that?
Can i read one blog, news story, talk radio without hearing the name joba chamberlin…
“Hey, I was told earlier that Romero was a righty yet he appears to be throwing with his left hand. What’s up with that?”
sudden adult dyslexia
just watch your tv in a mirror.
Is Kay retarted? Scutaro does not have the most runs scored of any shortstop.
wow aaron hill has 31 homers. what is his career best? That is quite a spike in production..just saying…
“Hey, I was told earlier that Romero was a righty yet he appears to be throwing with his left hand. What’s up with that?”
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His numbers indicate righty.
The TV indicates lefty.
Don’t know what to think, or if I should try to think.
Jeter 95 runs scored…marco 92 runs scored…so yes Kay is retarted
not to insult the mentally challenged but kay is retarted..
I know I’m gonna take a lot after this but it’s “retarded”….just saying
Kay is retarted for sure
Stultus Magnus
Actually Swisher has been good on defense of late.
sorry gigi my bad…you are correct..
“retarted”
Now thats ironic.
I hate when pitchers do this.
It’s not ironic, look it up “re-tarted”
boy…I better never make another spelling mistake again..
Ironic….that’s hilarious.
Joba Joba Joba.
My nose!
Something suddenly came up.
““retarted”
Now thats ironic.
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UPDATE, 7:20 p.m.: And the Yankees lead 3-0. Ricky Romero is pitching like Cesar Romero.
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That’s pretty bad.
Not Romero’s pitching….I mean Cesar Romero.
Just a terrible reference.
http://www.geocities.com/Holly.....ke663a.jpg
Jeremy,
Yeah, I know. His boneheaded play has not reared its ugly head lately.
“retarted”
Regifting pastries?
I did.. “No results found for re-tarted:”
gaudin over under 5 innings…(I would take 5 innings though)
Cesar Romero was great in “The Thin Man”.
Yankee pitchers love to throw lots of pitches early in a game.
I feel bad for Posada. He has to catch Gaudin, Joba, and Burnett, while Molina gets to catch CC. You can catch CC with your eyes closed…the others throw hard but are extremely wild.
My psychic prediction is 5 1/3 for Gaudin tonight.
http://www.urbandictionary.com.....m=retarted
retarted
One who has been given additional tarts.
Tartmobile vendor: Here is your extra tart sir. Consider yourself retarted.
Tartmobile customer: Yes thank you I am certainly retarted and happy!
Bucholz got out of trouble. Looks like that game will be a high scoring game.
Mom always says “don’t play ball in the house”
It is sorta ironic.
Calling someone “retarted” and showing that your spelling ability might be slightly developmentally delayed.
I hate the word anyways.
2-2 in the Sawks game.
Just read Pete’s updates. Yay, George Steinbrenner!
As for Joba, it occurs to me that the main objective this year has been to get him through the entire season injury free, get his innings up, and then get into next season. If they got great results, that was gravy. It is what it is. I can’t wait to see Joba next year. I don’t care anymore what comes out of his mouth. It’s all facade, because the entire season is a grind.
Wow – I LOVE that shot of the starters on the bench. What a team.
so there you go…extra tarts..no everyone is happy
I should have known it was in the urban dictionary.. I looked at a real one.
i agree angel it is ironic
Michael Kay is the pickiest eater ever.. i bet he doesn’t even like tarts, lol.
Now Romero decides to pitch good. I love how he didn’t show up against the Red Sox but now he can pitch.
is kay a picky eater? actually you are right he is..I saw him interview emeril he said he has never tried mustard.
Jeremy he gave up four runs in the first inning….I am not sure he has decided to “pitch well”
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing September 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I should have known it was in the urban dictionary.. I looked at a real one.
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“Real” one? Language is fluid and living, no book can ever capture it!
Not only mustard.. he doesn’t like any condiments like ketchup as well. I think he only eats the toppings off pizza and wont eat the crust.. bizarre stuff like that. Bizarre, but somewhat amusing.
Oh captain, my captain. Oh for two that is.
gives up four runs… then whiffs the side… oy…
Well, I’m a fan of the Urban Dictionary.. I get the word of the day from there everyday to my email box. I just didn’t think to look at it in this situation. I stand corrected – its exists as a slang word.
Jete nice play. Nice scoop Tex
RANGE.
i thought in the “blog/text” universe you are allowed to have bad grammar and poor spelling..
This team is a LOT of fun to watch.
Great D almost every night.
DAMN! There goes the perfect game.
He only eats the cheese off pizza because he is on-again, off-again on the Atkins diet. But he doesn’t like condiments. Emeril got him to eat an aioli dressing on something (garlic & mayo, basically) and he loved it. But that’s Emeril.
Doreen,
The season IS a grind, but that doesn’t excuse what comes out of a person’s mouth.
I don’t know if Joba’s just going to the cliches automatically or if he truly believes what he’s saying.
But Pete asked a legitimate question and didn’t get a legitimate answer.
The vets might’ve said, “Yeah, I got to get it going. we’ve got goals and I want to do my part” (of course they wouldn’t be on innings limits, haha).
But you don’t hear anything resembling accountability or honesty from Joba.
But you’re right, what he says doesn’t change his role or the big picture. The team will continue to do its thing.
only emeril
Not sure if this has been brought up on the blog before, I haven’t been too active lately, but Circling the Bases is taking a look at each team’s roster if they had kept the original players they signed.
Pretty interesting.
Take a look:
http://tiny.cc/bases732
it’s funny but every time a Yankees pitcher hits Jorge’s target it seems to get an out, I guess he isn’t so bad behind the plate unless he’s responsible for the pitchers not being able to hit the target. Maybe that’s why he and Andy work so well together.
gaudin is dominating…lol
nice ducking snyder… maybe next time you can just stand on the plate.
You can, I guess. I just found it ironic in that case.
I usually only pick on it when its someone trolling. You weren’t.
Ugh.. the Atkins Diet. That explains that.
I think he once said he’d never tried ketchup or mustard.
Jeter’s Id want to break the record at home. There is a constant struggle there.
good article in the ONION about joba not sure anyone saw it:
Starting Pitcher Not Allowed To Start, Pitch
One thing I’m quite certain regarding Joba, when he reports to camp next February he’ll be in much better shape & condition…..Has anyone seen him run wind sprints in the outfield on his off days ????/
what makes someone ” a troll”
M,
the bottom line with Joba is, any attitude adjustment will have to come in the off-season.
I’m not keen on the comments but, I care more about winning at this point more than what Joba thinks about anything.
If they can get 8-10 decent post-season innings out of him, that’s about all we can expect at this point.
Anything more is a bonus.
m -
I just meant this season is grinding it out for Joba. And he does need some kind of tutoring with regard to what he says. It’s all sound bytes – no substance whatsoever, no connection to reality. It doesn’t phase me anymore really. It bothered me for a while. Like I said, I’m looking forward to next season. What comes out of Joba’s mouth right now is mindless chatter. After awhile, I ignore the white noise. This year, it’s a matter of getting through (hence, a grind).
Enough Joba Talk September 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
what makes someone ” a troll”
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Someone who is short and lives under a bridge.
Toronto and Baltimore aren’t going to be factors in this division for many years. Toronto brings up some talented arms but they break down because they don’t know how to develop talent.
Enough Joba Talk
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
what makes someone ” a troll”
not being held enough as a baby.
Nick in SF
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Cesar Romero was great in “The Thin Man”.
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William Powell was the movie version of The Thin Man” and Peter Lawford was the TV version. Caesar Romero did a lot of movies (Duke Santee in the original “Ocean’s 11), but, most notably as “The Joker” in the Batman TV show.
>>One thing I’m quite certain regarding Joba, when he reports to camp next February he’ll be in much better shape & condition
He looks so heavy on TV but I got a pic of him with my kids and he’s not at all chubby in person. He’s a big guy but not as heavy as he looks on TV. Definitely needs better wind though….can you say “elliptical”?
LOL @ Albaladejo
by the way, I meant “the players they drafted”
look who’s retarted now…
http://tiny.cc/bases732
Oh you’ll see one at some point, EJT.
i’m surprised edwar can throw that hard
SJ,
I think we all want what’s best for Joba and what’s best for the team.
These kinds of things will work themselves out.
Can’t help but thinking that he’s not 100% well physically because this isn’t the Joba we all signed up for.
Okay confessions from a Yankee fan with a heart for the rest of the league (‘ceptin the Sux). It’s a funny phenomenon, and I admit it hasn’t happened for a while, but when the Yankees used to have seasons like this one, I tended to get bored at the end. I know it’s because I have always had such confidence in the team that I don’t go through any of the lows that other fans may, no matter how the team is doing. So while I am so happy as a fan, I am not in the throes of hysteria since I didn’t expect any less from the Yanks.
That translates into me also feeling sad for the other teams that aren’t doing so well – and that would include teams that we go and decimate at this point in time. I can’t help it, I just don’t have that killer instinct that I think is actually better when you’re a sports fan.
Another thing is that I get greater enjoyment out of watching the Sux lose at this point in this season. I find those games more “exciting”.
That attitude always infuriated Mets fans who used to post with us on the Times forum because I would say that the Yankees always used the season as batting practice for the postseason! They called it Yankee fan arrogance. Oh well.
I don’t mean to say I don’t have a total appreciation for what this year’s team is all about because I certainly do. But that’s because I did from day one and I never stopped.
Okay, confession over.
ha, albaladejo looks quite scary out there
no hitter is gone
Sawx 3-2, don’t yell at me….some people want to know
Doreen,
Oops. Sorry.
Next season is just that. Next Season!
Uncle E -
Funny!
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_phimlb_1
Pedro and Lincecum pitching to the same line.
UZR (ultimate zone rating): The number of runs above or below average a fielder is in both range runs and error runs combined.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....fangraphs/
Oh yes! I now have DirecTV back and am watching this on the YES network.
I’d make a pretty sizable bet that Boston makes a hard run after Scutaro this winter.
gigi,
Don’t worry about it. That person had no reason to call you a troll.
We report Sox scores all the time.
And even tell why they’re up 3-2. Because of a Baldelli homerun. Guess they forgot that he can still hit.
so there you go…extra tarts..no everyone is happy
Enough Joba Talk-
have you been taking the GB7 typing , spelling and speed reading course ?
personally i think it’s overrated, but his how to insult your friends and enemies in 5 easy lessons is quite good.
Enough Joba Talk September 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
what makes someone ” a troll”
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Hair growing out of your ears? If yes, troll
randy l.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
so there you go…extra tarts..no everyone is happy
Enough Joba Talk-
have you been taking the GB7 typing , spelling and speed reading course ?
personally i think it’s overrated, but his how to insult your friends and enemies in 5 easy lessons is quite good.
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Friends? I don’t need no stinkin’ friends.
Man, Gaudin makes it hard on himself with the walks.
There are times it seems he has no idea where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.
So far at least, he is surviving.
I don’t see any “bunnies” in the blog room tonight….skwuwy wabbit!
“Has anyone seen him run wind sprints in the outfield on his off days ????/”
Last nights game broadcast, Kay said he got to the stadium at 2pm and Joba and Andy were running in the outfield and the stadium stairs for an hour.
David Cone’s word of the night- “ironically”. He’s said it 4 times already
Nick Swisher’s first hit was off of Ted Lilly
Gigi September 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
I don’t see any “bunnies” in the blog room tonight….skwuwy wabbit!
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It got shot…um, I mean, banned.
I have nothing against joba..just tired of hearing all about him and his rules etc
SJ44
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Man, Gaudin makes it hard on himself with the walks.
There are times it seems he has no idea where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.
So far at least, he is surviving.
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He seems to do the same thing that AJ has made a habit of, pulling the fast ball down and in to lefties (or down and away to righties) when the target is on the other side of the plate. It makes it really tough on the catcher, particularly at 90+ mpg, to get there in time.
GB7: I didn’t say that Cesar Romero *starred* in “The Thin Man”, just that he was good in it. Jimmy Stewart was very good in the first sequel.
you can’t really complain about chad gaudin because, well, he is chad gauidn
Joba is smart.
The Pollyana stuff is strategic: why invite some neophyte critique of his work to work on a game-to-game basis?
Joba can’t afford to view each start as some tipping point event. The less he says, the better. Just go out and pitch.
pat
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
“Has anyone seen him run wind sprints in the outfield on his off days ????/”
Last nights game broadcast, Kay said he got to the stadium at 2pm and Joba and Andy were running in the outfield and the stadium stairs for an hour.
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that should end the talk of Joba being out of shape.
Of course, being the LoHud Yankees blog, it will only increase.
I don’t mean to swerve over to the Mets….BUT….Did anyone see David Wright’s new helmet? He looks like gazoo from the Flintstones.
SJ44
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Man, Gaudin makes it hard on himself with the walks.
There are times it seems he has no idea where the ball is going when it leaves his hand.
So far at least, he is surviving.
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He did come from the Padres …….
Carl, my fantasy team is doing nowhere as well as my team of choice. I picked up Pedro and laughed to myself when I saw he was pitching against Lincecum tonight. Think I’ll tune into that one too!
Who would have thought that Jason Marquis (also mine) would get pounded by the Mets? And then there was yesterday – I think it was yesterday – when I forgot to set my rosters for day games and Ted Lilly pitched an 8-inning shutout – and I had him on the bench. I could definitely have used help with ERA and WHIP.
Pete just makes himself look stupid when he discounts UZR. It’s no different than people focusing on AVG and throwing out OBP
in fantasy baseball I always try to draft ted lilly to remind myself that Cashman did not want to sign him, but instead gave basically the same amount of money to someone named Kei Igawa…
Gaudin has already contributed more than his predecessor van Gogh.
About wabbit sightings. I think you might still be able to access the forum if you’re banned but maybe just not post. So it is indeed probable that the wabbit is in the on-deck circle but won’t ever make it to the plate. What a deserving fate!
nice
not sure it is polite to call the host of blog “stupid”
Gaudin has already contributed more than his predecessor van Gogh.
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trisha,
I’m pretty happy I don’t do the fantasy sports stuff. It would drive me crazy
You lost me at “Joba is smart.”
Matsui is doing too much running tonight, get the bucket!
what is all the rabbit talk about?
m
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Gaudin has already contributed more than his predecessor van Gogh.
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Some of his games look like they were painted by Picaso.
the yankee lineup just wears pitchers down.
so let’s see, there’s a young pitcher out there tonight who is a candidate for Rookie of the Year…
He’s got a high pitch count.
He’s walked 4 already.
He’s given up 5 runs.
He’s been shaking off the the catcher.
He’s been working slowly.
Sound like anyone we know?
Jete can bust the game wide open right here
Rabbit talk: User in the blog yesterday named “Bunny” was a foul-mouthed Sox fan who couldn’t control his temper. Pete wasn’t reachable at the time, and he said waaaaayyyyy too much!
m
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Gaudin has already contributed more than his predecessor van Gogh.
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Yeh, but who paints the corner better?
tampa tied the score…
Back to back doubles ties it up in St. Pete’s.
Mark Teixeira’s UZR = -1.1
yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Jeter needs a day off,he’s slumping.
Who’s pitching for Tampa tonight?
mg,
Joba’s not pitching tonight.
And he’s not a rookie.
Price, I believe.
Price is pitching for Tampa
Do we have to hear about Vernon Wells and his contract every time we play the Blue Jays?
Was Joba a rookie last year? Or is he in a situation where he was never ‘really’ a rookie??
Oh tra-la! I am so happy that the Rays tied the score. I think I’ll head to tampa for a while.
Thanks Bodh.
pat,
Price. He & Bucky both gave up 3 hits/2 runs in the first.
How do you walk Vernon Wells ? He Sucks !!!
Doreen,
LOL. Joba’s been around so long, he was born a rookie.
I love David Cone….on the mound, not annoucing.
Wow Pedro has 8 Ks already. I think I really need to watch a little of that. That sounds like the Pedro of old.
How do you walk Vernon Wells ? He Sucks !!!
You throw him 4 balls…
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member who fears no team except the Yankees
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Wow Pedro has 8 Ks already. I think I really need to watch a little of that. That sounds like the Pedro of old.
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Giants have no offense.
this is Joba’s 3 season in pro ball, he blew through the minors in less than one season. He was moved from the ‘pen to the rotation last year and got injured. This is his first year as a full time starter, it’s at the major league level, and he’s on an innings limit that keeps him from having a regular schedule. The Yankees are running away with it and Joba most likely won’t be a major factor in the post season this year. Why not just wait for next season to see if he improves instead of constantly complaining about everything he says or does?
okay you have to win one game you have choice:
Gaudin or mitre who do you go with…..
What’s with all the washed up pitchers dominating the NL?
Welcome
I have us on the big channel, the Jets on Swap, and the Sox-Rays on Last channel, but I keep forgetting to hit “last” so I haven’t seen a lick of that game since setting it up.
It’s confusing enough trying to keep up with Gaugin and Gang Green.
Doreen
I think Joba was one of those too many innings at the end of the 2007 season to be considered a rookie in the 2008 season cases but not positive.
I go with Gaudin, Mitre’s a little scarier.
Joba running stairs & windsprints with Pettite…..Maybe a new page has turned……..I’ll lay 5 to 1 that the 2009 Joba tips the Toledo’s at least 5 lbs more than the 07 & 08 Joba……When I watched him throw in Anahiem the Friday night before the break, he was gassed by the 3 rd inning….If his innings go 23 or more pitches he’s sucking for air…..Position players can play themselves into shape somewhat ( Johnny Damon 07 ) however pitchers, especially starting pitchers it just doesn’t work as easily…..I like Joba and I do believe he can be a special pitcher, however he needs to grow up and understand that natural talent only goes so far…..
Tampa all tied up with Sawx 3-3.
Give me Mitre.
That hurt
A DP will flush toronto’s momentum down the toilet.
pat -
I’m sure that’s it. Joba’s getting old, though!
Gaudin.
If you throw Tomko in there, I’d probably go with Tomko. You know. If he was still here.
Tough to watch. Five run lead and he walks Wells on 4 pitches. Has Bautista 0-2 and hits him.
One hit and they are back in the game and you have to get him out of the game.
He makes it very hard on himself with his inability to throw strikes.
I think we might see Dunn today.
okay M you got tomko
Can’t keep loading bases,and not expect runs,sooner or later it will happen.
Can I change my choice to Mitre?
Tunnel, aren’t they right up there in the wild card race? How did they do that without offense – unless I have the wrong team. I don’t pay as much attention to what is going on in the NL.
“Gaudin or mitre who do you go with…..”
Tonight may be influencing my decision but gotta go with Mitre.
Yes Trisha, Giants .5 games out of wildcard
Get Alfredo sauce ready
Of course if we were watching mitre pitch we would pick chad G.
I’m willing to give Gaudin a little more getting-to-know-you time.
Aceves? ReaLLY?
Can’t get the #9 hitter after getting ahead 1-2.
Gotta get him out now before he blows the entire lead.
Another guy to cross off the post-season roster list.
Hard to understand how he can’t throw strikes against a dead team.
guys, you don’t get Hall of Famers off the waiver wire. Gaudin is who he is, an average major league pitcher with good stuff and control issues.
I have to confess, we’re so far ahead of Boston, I’m sitting here with the goal/hope of seeing Melancon and/or Dunn tonight.
good lord he is terrible
….Aceves warming
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77 pitches? Yikes!
I need to see Sergio pitch another game or two before I jump on his bandwagon.
The team has a ’10 option on him. Don’t know what the $$ is, though.
Get this scrub out of the game
Yank him.
the wheels they are a comin off
great…This was a sure win…We knew who they were and we let them off the hook!!!!
Take Gaudin out ! the guy sucks !
That’s it for Paint-by-Numbers.
here comes another cheap win for Ace, he’s going to have as many wins as AJ if he can hold a lead.
4 2/3 for Gaudin….who had him?
3 2/3 innings?? damn!
What is so hard about pitching 5 innings with a 5 run lead? Gaudin couldn’t do it his last start either.
Ace for 1.1 inn?
Now he can’t stay off the plate.
Isn’t Aceves bad with inherited runners?
One more out. That’s all we need.
SJ, I guess he’s a 3 inning pitcher…So You still think it’s between Goudin and Bruney ???? I’m still leaning torwards Brian Bruney….Power arm, a swing and miss pitcher is worth gold come October……Giradi has to be committed to getting him right…..
Typo 3 2/3
Can’t expect a lot from Gaudin nor Mitre. Its nice he had them scoreless until this inning, but now, you just know you gotta go to the bullpen. He is giving life to a pretty dead team.
Was sort of counting on Aceves backing up Joba tomorrow.
I guess it will be piecemeal.
The Yankees are still leading, and the Toronto bullpen sucks and is worn out so Aceves needs to keep the score right here.
Well our pen is going to be toast after this series. Thankfully we have call ups.
Between Gaudin and Joba tomorrow, our bullpen’s gonna be hurting by the Monday DHeader.
5 run lead and can’t throw the ball over the plate.
He flunked his tryout in a big way. Another guy who won’t sniff the post-season roster.
If you can’t throw strikes against a dead team, you won’t throw strikes against a live team.
I want to see another Mitre start, too. I’m hoping there’s no residual from being hit on the forearm and that he has another good start (though I’m not expecting another 1-hitter). There’s something about him I like – can’t put my finger on it. I get a decent “vibe.”
I guess Gaudin is a “medium” reliever in the AL.
Frankly, I’d rather give Kei Igawa a chance then watch Gaudin start another game.
Looks like Upton pulled due to injury in the field.
No, because he throws strikes.
Bodh, my dad’s name is Leonard – everyone calls him Lenny. It looks like it’s probably just a cyst – but we’ll know in about 10 days. I’m going to assume the best…….thank you, in any case. I appreciate it.
Gaudin is just not a good pitcher…….I wish we could find not-so-good pitchers that could at least give us innings, but none of our spot starters/long men are capable, lol
Bull pen going to get some serious work these next 3 days.
Ace to the rescue.
Rodan > Gaudin
“UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: Brutal effort here by Gaudin. Just awful. It was 5-0 and you let a team that quit weeks ago back into the game.”
Gee, Pete, I missed when Gaudin was anointed the ace of the staff. Last I remember he was a cheap mid-season pickup.
Pat M. -
I think Bruney. But not for full innings. Batter by batter.
The good thing about the bullpen is that they haven’t been over worked the entire season. I think the last game Aceves pitched was the last game of the white sox series.
Lol Tunnel Man, Igawa can probably match what Gaudin did tonight and more…
I know Gaudin isn’t very good, but not being able to complete 5 innings when he has a big lead against a dead team? He has actually had a pretty decent career in the AL, but I think he’s better suited as a long reliever than a starter.
Pat M,
Bruney can’t throw the ball over the plate either. He hasn’t struck out anybody in his last 7 outings.
Gaudin pitched himself out of post-season roster contention with this putrid outing.
Bruney? He has a month to show he belongs on the roster. He’s been as bad as Gaudin and that’s not a place you want to be.
The bullpen won’t be toast this weekend because they have a bunch of pitchers out there due to September callups.
If they need more, they will send for more in AAA.
Did anyone see how bad the Upton/Crawford collision was? Did he walk off on his own?
Mothra > Rodan
Just awful by Gaudin? Maybe if you’re expecting 6 shutout innings. I don’t think any rational person is counting on that from Gaudin. The guy hasn’t pitched more than 5 innings in months. He probably has a pitch limit at 90, maybe lower. Would have liked to see him get into the 5th at least, but what more can you expect from the guy?
pat September 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Did anyone see how bad the Upton/Crawford collision was? Did he walk off on his own?
Twisted ankle. He walked off on his own kinda.
Charlie
You have a good point but so does pete. Gaudin had a team down 5-0 and couldn’t even make it to the sixth inning.
Godzilla > Mothra
MG September 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
guys, you don’t get Hall of Famers off the waiver wire.
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Why not? Didn’t St. Louis pick up some guy named Smoltz? Isn’t he a future Hall of Famer?
It doesn’t matter if Gaudin is good or not.
You don’t have to be CC Sabathia to be able to throw the ball over the plate with a 5 run lead.
This is major league baseball. If you can’t throw strikes with a 5 run lead against a dead team, you are taking up roster space for someone who can.
No sympathies for Gaudin tonight. He blew a win for himself because he can’t throw strikes. Girardi gave him every chance. I would have pulled him 3 hitters earlier because it was obvious the meltdown was on.
They gave him a test and he flunked. Time to try someone else.
I’d like to see Melancon pitch….I’m not his biggest fan (think he’s been overhyped for what we’ve seen so far) and I don’t think he has a prayer of making the post-season roster, but he’s got talent and he was ok the last time he was up here. I’d certainly rather see him than Bruney.
Now now, my opinion is that if we are as hasty about Gaudin as many posters were about Mitre, we might be missing out on the opportunity to see some very fine pitching. We’ll have to see what Girardi says because he tends to be able to assess pitching talent better than lohud (no offense to anyone.) What I mean by that is while an outing might look dismal, he might see things in it that indicate hope.
With a 7.5 game lead I’m willing to hear from the expert (that would be Girardi) and see where he’s coming from.
It is possible that your assessments, if you want Gaudin to disappear, might be on the money. But since so many here were so far off about Mitre, I always take a wait and see attitude.
JMO
Thanks Carl. I heard collision I thought concussion.
pat September 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Thanks Carl. I heard collision I thought concussion.
They did. It was weak. He just missed his step on the rubber track.
Betsy,
Thanks, sounds positive for your Pops!
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LoL, fellow poster on another site has sig of milk carton w/Melancon’s picture on it with the query: Have You Seen Me?
Pleeeeeeez Joe! We MM cult people are starving for a crumb!
Maybe Goldie Hawn can pitch
What more can you expect from the guy?
How about throwing the ball over the plate with a 5 run lead?
That’s not a lot to expect.
3 2/3 innings against a dead Blue Jays team with a 5 run lead is awful.
Kei Igawa can do that.
Sorry, but his performance tonight was a joke. No excuses for that kind of outing.
SJ, I don’t know if it is the real you, but if it is this you tends to always be overly negative when it comes to allowing new pitchers to breathe.
Yeah, Gaudin should be able to throw strikes with a 5-run lead. So should every other Yankee pitcher who has gotten into trouble in a game when the Yankees have a big lead. You say it all the time. It’s the same old thing.
We know what they should be able to do. We also know they’re human beings who aren’t always performing like perfect robots. The guy is new to the organization – plus he was pitching against a former team. I don’t care how former it is, maybe he had a case of the nerves.
Since we can’t get into his head, I still say give him the benefit of the doubt.
Nice hittin Alex
“They gave him a test and he flunked. Time to try someone else.”
How many tests did Mitre “flunk” (according to Pete and others) before he threw his gem against the White Sox? We’re talking about a 5th/spot starter here. There isn’t one in the majors that throws consisted quality starts.
DAT ALEX
A-rod waited on that.
Mitre pitched well in his last start, which makes me more optimistic about him. But let’s see how he does in his next start. He’s still got a lot to prove.
And Gaudin has been decent as a long man, spot starter. He isn’t really stretched out, and started “hitting the wall” in the 4th when he was over 50 pitches. I’m not going to get on him too hard.
a-rod is looking toward anoher 100 rbi season even missing 30+ games, and sitting once a week.
If Gaudin was throwing strikes, though, he wouldn’t have hit his wall so early. He has usefulness to this team, but probably not as a spot starter. Just relief.
My vote is that it’s not the real SJ. If it is you SJ I apologize for thinking it isn’t. But SJ, I think, usually is a lot more understanding of human foibles, i.e., pitching mistakes.
Did Sui just turn on the Jets?
Boy, I like the new Alex. Great at bats, up the middle and in control. Prepping for the post season.
Anyone else have a feeling that IF the yanks make the playoffs this guy is going to disappear?
Gaudin was a Blue Jay for one season, 2005, and had pitched against them plenty of times since. Whatever tonight was, it wasn’t nerves against a former team.
Matsui’s knees must be much better!
A Roid September 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Anyone else have a feeling that IF the yanks make the playoffs this guy is going to disappear?
Yeah with your mom
do the Red Sokkks have any african american coaches?
Maybe Gaudin is one of those guys whose body of work doesn’t get appreciated until after they’ve joined the great bullpen in the sky?
Melancon is a strike thrower, Betsy.
He also has a sinker that he can go to in the stretch, a change he gets swinging strikes on, a very good CB and a 4-seamer that rushes/explodes on the batter with late life.
He will not blow the ball by everyone ala Bruney, because he pitches to contact, but he will get his Ks. He has a great arm and demeanor.
“How many tests did Mitre “flunk” (according to Pete and others) before he threw his gem against the White Sox? We’re talking about a 5th/spot starter here. There isn’t one in the majors that throws consisted quality starts.”
Hear hear, Charlie!
GJ Posada nice hittin!
JORGE!
That just inflated romero’s era!
I want to see a double steal on the first pitch.
Romero has 104 pitches in 5 innings!
“Gaudin was a Blue Jay for one season, 2005, and had pitched against them plenty of times since. Whatever tonight was, it wasn’t nerves against a former team.”
Yeah but he never went there as a Yankee. There’s more pressure to be impressive.
My interpretation. Maybe yes, maybe no. Hard to know without getting into the man’s head.
i like the new alex too.
he’s shortened up and is really covering the plate.
he’s so strong he’ll still get his share of extra base hits and homers.
Trisha, you watching this?
Price just needs to rear back and throw against guys like Papi and Varitek. No need to get cerebral, just out-athleticize ‘em.
Gaudin isn’t nervous about facing the Blue Jays Trisha.
He is what he is. A non-strikethrower.
Been that way his entire career.
Hard to understand why because his stuff isn’t bad.
He just is a guy who refuses to attack hitters. He’s been that way at every stop.
You come to this team and you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that if you just throw strikes this offense will get you a ton of runs.
If you can’t do it, then you aren’t on the post-season roster. Its not about having “sympathy” for his cause.
There are pitchers who would kill to have the opportunity he has with this team. If he can’t do it, go to the next guy.
That’s what the next 28 games are for. To find out who you can win with in the post-season.
I’ll admit I wasn’t a Mitre guy but at least you can say he’s coming back from elbow surgery. And quite early as well.
What’s Gaudin recovering from? So-Cal malaise? Bad vibes?
Matsui is like whats going on lol
Bruney’s postseason roster spot just got a little more secure.
“Just awful by Gaudin? Maybe if you’re expecting 6 shutout innings. I don’t think any rational person is counting on that from Gaudin. The guy hasn’t pitched more than 5 innings in months. He probably has a pitch limit at 90, maybe lower. Would have liked to see him get into the 5th at least, but what more can you expect from the guy?”
I really appreciate the comments coming from our lohudders tonight with respect to not torturing Gaudin for his outing.
Good for you, gang!
I love how people are so ticked off
7 game lead folks, just playing out the string. Enjoy it. Nothing to get stressed about until October.
I don’t understand the rush to judgement about any pitcher on the staff relative to the playoffs.
What about waiting until the END of the season, looking at overall performance, and picking the best 11 pitchers? At the end of the day it’s only one or two spots at best we are talking about and, quite honestly, if they are a factor in the post season the team is in trouble anyway. If the starters are pitching OK, all the ‘pen will really need is Mo, Hughes, Joba (ALDS), Ace, and the situation left(ies).
Aroid
Let me guess Red Sox fan. I know things aren’t going well for you guys because the Yankees are better then you but can you please stop talking about the past and worry about your own team. Typical Sox fan talking about the past.
Babe Ruth is a starting pitchaaa!!!
Bodhi – I meant to say earlier, that was good news about the friend you posted about last night. I sent up a prayer. Some days I wonder if there is anyone out there listening, but news like that makes me sure that sometimes there is and its worth it.
SWISHHHAAAAAAA!! almost….soo close….
Wow… so much hostility for a guy who isin’t even going to be on the postseason roster and was an injury-fill in.
No wonder everyone hates Yankees fans. They can’t even enjoy games with 7 game lead in September and the best team un baseball. Always killing someone…. as insignificant as they may be.
Mitre pitched one good game for the Yankees. Let’s not put him in the HOF just yet folks.
He isn’t anything special. What he does do is pitch to contact.
Which, isn’t a bad trait to have when given a big lead.
If the Yankees decide to go with 11 pitchers for the ALDS, barring injuries, 10 of the 11 roster spots are already set.
AJ, CC, Pettitte, Joba, Coke, Marte, Aceves, Robertson, Hughes and Mo.
You have a bunch of guys in the mix for one spot.
I wouldn’t try to get into Chad Gaudin’s head, you might never find your way out.
Excuses are a dime a dozen. 5 run lead, didn’t pitch well; that’s the reality. He’ll have another chance to prove himself; hopefully he does better. No reason to lynch him, but no reason to trust him too much either.
randy, SJ – is it a conscious refusal to attack the strike zone, out of fear or whatever, or an inability to consistently hit the strike zone? Is it mechanics more than lack of willpower or discipline?
And it’s not just Gaudin, we’ve seen this with a lot of other guys. I know the results are the same, I’m just curious as to the reason.
Arod tried to mount that cop!
What a pig. Can’t A-Rod even leave the women alone during the game?
She doesn’t look happy about it.
This guy isin’t even going to be a starter in the playoffs.
If he does make it, he will be the guy designated to pitch in 10-2 games so we don’t waste anyone good. Why so much hate for the guy?
was he trying to cop a feel…
SJ, so why all the venom over Gaudin since you know he’s not a post season factor anyway?
The only rational answer is that the fake SJ is the one that puts up those posts…
If I was that cop I would have been smiling from ear to ear. Shes grumpy
Aceves will give us the best post game interview ever tonight.
I just got home and turned on the TV right in time to see A-rod groping the cop. Classic
K Overbay…..nice suff.
Great pitching by the gardener.
With a 5-0 lead, a professional pitcher should be able to throw strikes. That is not to much to ask, No. 5 starter or not. Especially against a dead-in-the-water team that has lost 14 of its last 18 games.
Actually, nobody here is “upset” about anything.
We just aren’t going to throw bouquets at a guy who can’t give them 4 full innings with a 5 run lead against a dead team.
For those that want to, I don’t see anybody here stopping them from doing so.
it was funny watching ARod trying to keep his hands, um, out of the “way.”
Good thing he didn’t get hurt trying to avoid that.
I think he was gallant – he seemed to work hard to keep from knocking her to the ground. He seemed unnerved by it – they showed him still looking over there and then around.
AROD touched her boob
I know I’m the minority view, but Ace is wasted in the bullpen. When he is on (about 2/3 of the time) he is close to unhittable the way he locates. He could be the best #5 starter in MLB if used in that role.
“Gaudin isn’t nervous about facing the Blue Jays Trisha.
He is what he is. A non-strikethrower.
Been that way his entire career.
Hard to understand why because his stuff isn’t bad.
He just is a guy who refuses to attack hitters. He’s been that way at every stop.
You come to this team and you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that if you just throw strikes this offense will get you a ton of runs.
If you can’t do it, then you aren’t on the post-season roster. Its not about having “sympathy” for his cause.
There are pitchers who would kill to have the opportunity he has with this team. If he can’t do it, go to the next guy.
That’s what the next 28 games are for. To find out who you can win with in the post-season”
Dumbest post ever? No way you’re the real SJ44. “Just throw strikes!” Hey, maybe you should fly to Toronto and tell him personally. For all we know, Girardi’s been coaching him to walk guys.
NYY626 September 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
If I was that cop I would have been smiling from ear to ear. Shes grumpy
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haha me too!
If I was that cop lady, I would be smiling. helllloooo Alex. hehe. lol
There isn’t any venom.
Folks want to praise that effort, all power to them.
It was a putrid effort and I’m not going to say otherwise.
This is major league baseball. You should be able to throw the ball over the plate in the situation he was in tonight.
If he can’t, he’s taking up a roster spot needlessly.
Georgia
Yes, he was gallant. I like that word.
Aceves is the man. He really reminds me of Ramiro Mendoza.
“With a 5-0 lead, a professional pitcher should be able to throw strikes. That is not to much to ask, No. 5 starter or not. Especially against a dead-in-the-water team that has lost 14 of its last 18 games.”
Right Pete. No professional pitchers ever have control issues.
“Arod tried to mount that cop!”
They are in Canada.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/index-eng.htm
Someone wrote on RAB: Jeter gets that ball AND the grope.
I laughed. My maturity level is kinda pathetic right now
Aceves is tossing hot cheese and the Jays can get their sticks on it. He is a gem in the pen.
TY so much for that, Angel. It is great, great news.
…although I love the Mr. M quote you’ve got (I was sad when you semi-retired it, lol), I feel personally closer to Hamlet’s “There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy!”
Sick pitch from ACE, there.
I didn’t get the memo that said the performance of the starting pitcher — the guy competing for a spot on the playoff roster and any future with the team or elsewhere in the league — is off limits as a conversational topic on the blog.
I for one do not hate Mr. Gaudin. I’m not worried about anything. Only happy talk allowed?
“Dumbest post ever” wanting a guy to throw strikes with a 5 run lead?
Ok, whatever you say.
I don’t need to go to Toronto to say what Girardi and Eiland have already said to the guy.
NYY626
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Someone wrote on RAB: Jeter gets that ball AND the grope.
I laughed. My maturity level is kinda pathetic right now
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Doesn’t make you immature. That person speaks the truth!
Just look at some of Aceves’ outings in the second half where he’s gone 3 or 4 innings. His stuff can get through the order 3X, with his command that 6-7 innings easily. He’d win 15 games as the #5 starter, who else in MLB has that potential.
Melky is heating up
I know EXACTLY what Jeter is going to say when he breaks the all-time Yankee record.
You can bank money on this.
He will say:
“It just means I have been playing the game for a long time now”
Leche officially hot. Four doubles in as many games. Would just like to see that OBP get a bit healthier.
“With a 5-0 lead, a professional pitcher should be able to throw strikes. That is not to much to ask, No. 5 starter or not. Especially against a dead-in-the-water team that has lost 14 of its last 18 games.”
Peter, do you actually watch any baseball besides the Yankees?
Professional baseball is FILLED with guys who can’t throw strikes under ANY circumstances.
Lohud is about to go crazy if Jeter bunts.
HOLY COW THE UMP SUCKS
I don’t think anybody is too happy about the outing Gaudin gave us. It’s just that some of us aren’t too bent out of shape about it because we didn’t expect him to be CC Sabathia. Nor do we think one game says everything about a guy. Every pitcher has bad games.
If I lose the Jeter hit contest because of that missed call, I will be very grrrrrr.
he was safe..OMG, what was the umpire looking.
god I hope I get to see Dunn tonight.
The reason I lean towards Bruney is two fold…..As I menetioned he has the fastball that can shutdown hitters for an inning…More importantly, he’s proven that he can do this…..So, under that premise I just think Giradi devotes as much time and offer as many opportunties to get right…..He’s a weapon that is misfiring right now…..The options otherwise are rather slim pickings
wow
Safe by a foot.
Hard to understand how they could blow that call since it wasn’t close.
Not giving you David Harris, nope.
Pete
Has a point. Gaudin sucked ! No one should be making excuses for him. He had a good lead and failed to even make it to the 5th inning.
Gaudin wasn’t good tonight, there is no doubt about that but he’s been OK in other games. I’m not putting him in the post season rotation or probably on the roster (unless he starts pitching really well out of the ‘pen) but he could be a project next spring, he does have good stuff.
MG September 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Just look at some of Aceves’ outings in the second half where he’s gone 3 or 4 innings. His stuff can get through the order 3X, with his command that 6-7 innings easily. He’d win 15 games as the #5 starter, who else in MLB has that potential.
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As it sits right now, Ace is going to get his 10th win this season…as a reliever.
I don’t know how the ump missed that. He was looking right at the play – or so it seemed. Jeter was safe by about a foot. Ball wasn’t even near the glove when his foot touched the bag. Lousy call.
And in that situation I don’t think Jetes shoudl have bunted.
““Dumbest post ever” wanting a guy to throw strikes with a 5 run lead?
Ok, whatever you say.”
Dumbest post ever because you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re implying that Gaudin doesn’t know to attack hitters, that he’s intentionally nibbling, when actually you have no idea. Again – we’re talking about a mid-season pickup that hasn’t thrown more than five innings all year. Expecting him to have the control of Tom Glavine is st00pid.
Get lost imposter.
joe form long island-
i’m not familiar enough with gaudin to know what his problem throwing strikes is. i’d have to watch him more. some pitchers are afraid to pitch to contact. they give to much credit to the hitter. watch bp some time. most hitters don’t hit .500 there. half the balls they hit would be outs.
i do agree with sj that if gaudin can’t throw strikes in this kind of game with a five run lead he’s not going to be on any post season roster.
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!”
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
god I hope I get to see Dunn tonight.
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I dare not hope. Girardi has been disappointingly conservative to date, in this regard
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Pete – that works for wind-up dolls only. These guys are no more perfect than any of us. Those who have unwavering expectations always end up disappointed.
SJ44 September 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Safe by a foot.
Hard to understand how they could blow that call since it wasn’t close
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The ump wants to see the record broken at home too. No cheap hits allowed.
st00pid.
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RSH????!!!!
it’s always funny how the discussion on this blog focuses on the end of the bench players plus the usualy complaints about Cani, Posada, Melky, and whichever starting pitcher had a bad game. Time for some new material, gang…
i was just watching the giants game on mlb tv and i heard jim kaat i thought that was pretty cool.
Anyone else get disturbed by the screeching in women’s tennis?
The Chad is what the doctor ordered. His VORP, WHIP and ERA are off the charts. Some of you need to look at his in game value versus his washing cars at the Wal-Mart parking lot stats. he is officially “Off the hook.”
I’m not getting on the trash Chad bandwagon – nor does anyone here know who is not going to be on the postseason roster.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Gaudin ends up on the postseason roster.
Many games left to be played.
“UPDATE, 9:22 p.m.: Atta boy, Derek. Bunting with a four-run lead in the sixth inning to get a runner to third. Why not? It’s not like you’re one of the best hitters in the history of a celebrated franchise.”
Ah, I see the endless nitpicking in the face of a great season starts at the top, eh?
Who expected perfection out of Chad Gaudin? Adequacy is what was hoped for and Guadin wasn’t adequate.
The question is whether Guadin will be chosen to be part of the post-season roster, not whether fans have unrealistic expectations for sketchy drifters.
“I don’t think anybody is too happy about the outing Gaudin gave us. It’s just that some of us aren’t too bent out of shape about it because we didn’t expect him to be CC Sabathia. Nor do we think one game says everything about a guy. Every pitcher has bad games.”
I officially love you! (no comments necessary from the peanut gallery.)
Come on Posada
randy I – thanks for the feedback.
Doreen September 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Anyone else get disturbed by the screeching in women’s tennis?
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Did you mean disturbed or excited?
LOL
Giants lost 2-1, stranding a runner at second with no outs in the sixth. The post-game SF analysts went on and on about how it was a huge mistake not to bunt Renteria to get the runner over.
Whatever doesn’t work will be second-guessed.
Earlier Jim Kaat & Bob Costas were comparing Pedro to Sandy Koufax…And some of their numbers are similar….However when they take each pitchers best 5 seasons in no contest….Koufax had 100 complete games, 4 no-hitters ( 1 was a perfect game )…..One season Sandy Koufax had 300 more strikeouts than he had walks……Just think about that !!!!!!!!!
“The question is whether Guadin will be chosen to be part of the post-season roster,”
Anyone purporting to be able to answer that question at this point in time is a fool. That much should be obvious Nick. The question will be answered in the due course of time.
“Ah, I see the endless nitpicking in the face of a great season starts at the top, eh?”
Pete’s wrong a lot but this time he’s right. Bunting is always a terrible idea unless you’re a pitcher or Cody Ransom.
“I officially love you! (no comments necessary from the peanut gallery.)
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Just don’t say anything to my wife.
Pete I hate bunting too but Jeter was clearly bunting for a hit. And to be fair, he was safe and it wasn’t even that close. The ball was nowhere near the glove when Jetes touched first.
Pat M.
Sandy had command. Strike zone was a wider back then but he really had some command.
when jeter bunts it’s never a straight sacrifice… he’s always trying to bunt for a hit also… how could u possibly complain about a leadoff hitter doing that on occasion… especially when replays showed he was CLEARLY SAFE… it’s just another dimension of Derek’s game… it’s a plus not a negative
but let’s keep second guessing Derek Jeter, I mean are you kidding me, this guy should have a free pass for life when it comes to anything baseball related. Since he has come up with the Yankees he has been a Hall of Fame player since day one practically. I think the guy knows what he’s doing.
get him out
The “trash Chad bandwagon” ?
niiiice
that was lazy
“Bunting is always a terrible idea ”
I always thought bunting was one of the fundamental’s of baseball. Stupid me.
This game is moving so sloooow!
What happened with that guy and the bloody nose, I wasn’t paying attention…
man Alex has to charge that… weird game so far
See, if Jeter was bunting for a hit, it was a poor bunt. It was a good sac bunt, though. Unfortunately, no runs scored from the effort – not entirely Jeter’s fault when the next two batters fail.
Aceves seems to have tired…but not helped by a poor fielding effort by Alex.
How many times do you think Albaladejo has responded “You should see the other guy” in the last couple of days?
Bunting is NOT a horrible idea if you’re trying to get on base. Catching the defense off guard can be accomplished every now and then. Getting more runners on base is never a bad thing. It’s like the idiots who criticize A-Rod for walking instead of swinging at bad pitches in a big spot.
You will notice that I did not answer the question of Mr. Gaudin’s October future, Trisha, but I don’t get how the performance of tonight’s starting pitcher is out of bounds as a conversational topic.
Guadin’s entire body of work as a Yankee will be taken into account when they make the roster decision. Tonight didn’t help his cause very much.
There is a middle ground between praise and burial.
Jeter is much, much better at hitting singles to right field than he is bunting. That the ump blew the ball isn’t the point. With a runner on second, his job is to drive him in, not bunt.
Pete do you really think tat the bunt is Girardi calling it from the bench or Jeter just doing it on his own. The last time he did it Girardi and Jeter said he was doing it on his own.
Carl, There is some truth to what you’re saying…But pitchers had the higher mound, but they were pitching to the greatest home run hitting era in history ( until the past 10 years )…..When he faced the Giants, he had to face a 3 & 4 hitter that hit over 500 hr’s…Same holds true when he pitched against the Braves….Koufax was in a different league then and now as well…He retired at the age of 30…..30 years old !!!!!
Pete is a bit wrong. If you only want one run, bunting is the way to go. The percent of scoring at least one run is higher. If you calculate how many runs you expect to score, then no out a runner on 2nd has a better expected value, because the probability of a big inning is much better.
“Anyone purporting to be able to answer that question at this point in time is a fool. That much should be obvious Nick. The question will be answered in the due course of time.”
i absolutely know for a fact that if gaudin gives up 3 runs and three walks for every 3 and 2/3 innings he pitches, not only will he not be on the playoff roster, he won’t be on the team for long.
let’s not forget who Jeter was facing. The pitcher type that Jeter least likes to face is a hard throwing righty. League throws almost 100 sometimes. Jeter is also slumping lately. It all adds up to bunting, trying for hit, which he GOT. And at worst it’s a sacrifice which it was. I think Jeter knows himself best and the pitchers he feels comfortable against, etc.
The offense needs to score some more runs. That was not a good inning.
Jeter buntgate 2.0? This is so insignificant….
Pete is so wrong like usual. Jeter’s job is to get on base. That’s kind of the point of the game, buddy. I suggest he start reading up on the subject of baseball. Not knowing an important defensive metric like UZR is pretty lol bad for a baseball writer. He doesn’t know what it is then just shrugs it off like it’s irrelevant, “whatever that means.” Joke.
Offense better get back to work. However, this would be a great time to test Melancon and Robertson out.
Have a starter go deeper tonight with a 5 run lead, it becomes an easier game.
It’s tough to expect the pen to always have to cover 6 innings in Gaudin’s starts because he can’t throw strikes.
It’s comical to me that folks are upset because we dare criticize Chad Gaudin.
Fortunately, his futility will be limited to the regular season.
Gaudin is better suited for the pen, it is looking like
They should score some runs of camp.
Nick it’s one thing to critique a performance as to what it was – of course that’s fair game. It’s quite another to critique a performance and make all kinds of future prouncements based on that performance. I think that’s what some of us were objecting to. I don’t think anyone is arguing that Chad pitched well. At least I don’t think I heard that.
From my perspective (and I’m in agreement with all of those who mentioned the same point) because someone didn’t do what would be hoped for in a particular situation doesn’t make that person anything more than someone who didn’t do what would be hoped for in that particular situation. Especially when you are not looking at a very long list of outings from which to discern.
JMO
There is much more to be seen.
“With a runner on second, his job is to drive him in, not bunt.”
disagree. His job is to move him over. Damon’s job is to drive him in.
It’s an insurance run that you can plate with an out.
If you think I am wrong, remember Derek Jeter is on my side.
UZR is not an important defensive stat.
In fact, it’s so inaccurate, teams are creating their own defensive metric systems because they are dissatisfied with UZR readings.
Posada is having a great week.
Yanks have struck out 10 times tonight.
UZR inexplicably has Teixeira COSTING the Yanks runs this season. It says he’s below average. I sent an e-mail complaining, obviously to no avail. It just bothers me some people actually put stock in it.
Pete I totally agree. He missed nailing Ace by a foot. And why did it take stadium security so long to come and remove him. And the fans show what idiots they are by booing security for finally doing the right thing and removing him.
“Offense better get back to work. However, this would be a great time to test Melancon and Robertson out.”
And Dunn.
I absolutely do not believe that is SJ. SJ is definitely not that pretentious.
And whoever is writing this stuff, you don’t have a clue whether or not Gaudin will be on the postseason roster. And making a judgement based on one outing sure makes you look foolish.
boston’s winning 6-3
Aceves seems to have tired…but not helped by a poor fielding effort by Alex.
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Doreen, I would like to see Girardi slow down a little on Aceves. He’s flirting with over-use there, especially considering the back issues.
Glad to hear your daughter’s thriving.
BTW: Do you have the Cano bobble-head doll from Trenton? If you do, you’ll notice a quirk: “Cano” is a RHB. No wonder the thing brings him no luck when I set it up with the Japanese lucky cat
. Of course, Cano doesn’t need voodoo these days.
Pete what are you talking about. Why would you insult people of Toronto like that? Just because there are a few bad apples in the crowd, you feel it’s necessary to access the quality of Toronto sport fans?
“I always thought bunting was one of the fundamental’s of baseball. Stupid me.”
It is – like chewing tobacco. That doesn’t make it right.
You can’t look at one defensive metric and say this is the only stat that matters. It is important to know what they all mean though and it’s ignorant for a baseball writer to not know and not even care to learn. It’s awful. Just awful. Anyone who doesn’t know what UZR means should be arrested and prosecuted.
This definitely is a slow-moving game. Think I’ll get me some iced tea.
Benny Blanco
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
boston’s winning 6-3
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Not enough slug this year to overcome their achilles heel, the bullpen.
^^^meaning Tampa. Other than that mediocre BP, they have the better club, IMO. But that’s been a big discrepancy.
Bodhi -
No bobbleheads here! They spook me a little.
Put bobble-Cano in front of a mirror to lefty-ize him, maybe?
Trisha,
There is a zero % chance Gaudin is on the post-season roster.
Do the math.
AJ, CC, Andy, Joba, Aceves, Coke, Marte, Robertson, Hughes, Rivera.
That leaves one spot and that’s probably Bruney.
The Chad Gaudin fight is not one worth having.
He’s a non-factor for the post-season.
Cone, the Yankees were 14 over .500 at the break. 51-37.
Make that A Long Island , Tricia
I am quite sure that Gaudin’s future won’t be decided by this one bad outing. But tonight’s performance didn’t occur in a vaccuum. Chad didn’t help himself tonight.
I’m not defending anyone’s comments but mine, but I think it’s ok for anyone to say that Gaudin was a stinky diaper tonight. Anyway, the topic of what people should and shouldn’t talk about in the comments section of the blog is getting kind of tedious.
Swish’s jumps have been excellent for a while now. He seems to prefer being focused to being flaky, these days.
I always like it when a flake becomes a warrior once the game starts; that’s Swish for a while now.
Charlie
LOL. Wrong but funny.
And if you’re out there, dennis, you led me astray. Where were the points?? The points?????
Doreen
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Bodhi -
No bobbleheads here! They spook me a little.
Put bobble-Cano in front of a mirror to lefty-ize him, maybe?
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That madam, is an inspired suggestion!
According to the people in the press box, there have been many incidents this season when fans threw things at opposing platers here, Josh. That is inexcusable.
Phil did not average 91 as a starter – I think Coney low balled him on that. Wasn’t he averaging about 92-94?
Nice job Dave
I think Swisher is more comfortable in RF now that he has been playing there regularly. Remember, he spent a good amount of time in CF last year and was mostly a first baseman in Oakland.
it feels like these days that if D-rob doesnt get 2 k’s in an inning he failed lol…
bodhi -
So true about Swisher. I tell ya, I was impressed when I heard he asked Dave Eiland to work with him on his throwing. To see a deficiency and work to improve it on this level I think tells one a lot about a player.
Doreen
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Bodhi -
No bobbleheads here! They spook me a little.
Put bobble-Cano in front of a mirror to lefty-ize him, maybe?
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That madam, is an inspired suggestion!
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I have my moments!
I’m sure familiarity is part of it. He also is more alert on the base paths. He’s telling me he knows when to put away the toys. The guy has been a force, and we’re just killin’ it with these switchies up & down the lineup.
phil going for save three
Any guesses as to who pitches the 8th inning? Marte, Coke, Bruney?
In 7 plate appearances against Dave Eiland, Derek Jeter had 4 hits, 2 of which were doubles.
my regards to ex-Patriots runningback John Stephens who passed away today.. I think it was a car accident.. 43 yrs old.. I remember those days with him and the Pats!
“It’s quite another to critique a performance and make all kinds of future prouncements based on that performance.”
actually one of my key criteria for rating posters is their ability to watch performances and predict future performance.
for example pat m has championed hughes from day one because of what he saw in hughes from performances in high school. he could tell hughes had it.
if someone has to wait until all the performances of a player are in to pass judgement , what good is that ? everyone knows then what the guy did.
the really good posters predict future performance from a small sample of performances with a high level of success .
no one is always right, but i’d say sj44′s assessments about future performance are usually enlightening and he’s right way more than he’s wrong.
So true about Swisher. I tell ya, I was impressed when I heard he asked Dave Eiland to work with him on his throwing. To see a deficiency and work to improve it on this level I think tells one a lot about a player.
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Yeah, that’s the other thing that made me sit up and take notice. First, I didn’t see any rainbow throws, just line drives. And it was like “Hmm…what happened to Swish’s arm?” Then I read that story and was like, “Dude’s not playin’.”
Kudos to Cash.
All righties due up in the 8th… Girardi will use his pet Bruney.
WOW my friend just sent me a pic of Ashlee Simpson who’d ever thought she’d be hotter than her sister.
Bodh, I don’t mean to knock Melancon – I just don’t want to praise him until he proves worthy. That said, at this point, I don’t care if Bruney can throw the ball by people. Right now, he can’t hit the side of a barn and instead of blowing the ball by hitters, they are blowing the ball by him……..when they hit the ball, hard. I’m all for Giradi giving this guy a chance to work out his issues, but it’s been quite awhile now and I don’t see any progress.
Bruney are you serious Joe?
Bruney’s coming in. Who is going to come in after he gives up 2 walks to the first 2 he faces?
bruney is certainly getting his opportunities.
Bruney scares me.
It really is passive aggressive behavior at it’s zenith when people don’t like what SJ44 has to say, and then accuse someone of impersonating him.
Pretty safe bet that it’s the real SJ and what he’s saying about Gaudin is likely on the money.
I still don’t see why Melancon isn’t coming in…….give him a chance.
It would be great to see one of the kids, but I have no problem with Bruney being in right now, they need to find out what they have in him too.
Why is Bruney in this game ?
Speaking of predictions, what happened to all the people predicting Melky’s .250 average and Indian Cigar Man CF? Seem to have lost their way to Lohud and other forums I visit.
Joe is trying to force Bruney into being good………but he can’t.
Betsy
Phil was at 91 in his start against Texas this year when he had 10ks. He was at 93 when he beat the Indians. I’m not sure if his cutter is lowering his average fastball velocity.
Does anybody else find it quite humorous that Penny, Smoltz and Lugo seem to be prospering outside of bean town?
They were all bad signings and even worse releases. Too funny.
Nice uneventful inning for Bruney.
surprise surprise
“It really is passive aggressive behavior at it’s zenith when people don’t like what SJ44 has to say, and then accuse someone of impersonating him.
Pretty safe bet that it’s the real SJ and what he’s saying about Gaudin is likely on the money.”
No way it’s the real SJ44. The impostor hasn’t even tried to deny it. And there at least a couple very telling posts above.
Bullet dodged with Bruney. Will Phil pitch the 9th?
Bruney, with a 1-2-3 inning? What?
He did give up two hard hit balls, though.
Good inning from Bruney!
I still don’t trust him.
Betsy that should the Detroit not the Indians.
Great… that will buy him another week of sucktitude…
Betsy
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Bodh, I don’t mean to knock Melancon – I just don’t want to praise him until he proves worthy. That said, at this point, I don’t care if Bruney can throw the ball by people. Right now, he can’t hit the side of a barn and instead of blowing the ball by hitters, they are blowing the ball by him……..when they hit the ball, hard. I’m all for Giradi giving this guy a chance to work out his issues, but it’s been quite awhile now and I don’t see any progress.
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Oh, I didn’t think you were knocking him. I just have seen a lot of him and since you mentioned him, I thought you might be interested in his arsenal.
Bruney is the little girl with the curl. He can blow the ball by people, but when he’s in the stretch, I have to close my eyes sometimes.
To me, it’s no contest. I want the strike thrower who can mix it up. Doesn’t throw as hard, but much more command and movement, and more versatile. There’s greatness in Melancon’s arm – there isn’t in Bruney’s. I guess that’s how I would put it in context.
Bruney has talent, but if he can’t harness it, what good does it do?
pedro beats lincecum tonight. 7innings 9k’s
If Bruney is not on the playoff roster, who takes his place? If it’s a seldom used pitcher, I’d guess we should be seeing someone else get a few test runs, no? I tend to think it would not be someone like Melancon who has only limited ML exposure this season.
Looks like Cashman is going to have to force Girardi’s hand, re: Melancon.
Carl, thanks!
I thought he was throwing harder than that – good point about the cutter. I guess it shows (not that we already didn’t know it) that velocity is not the be all and end all. If Phil was throwing 91 against Texas, lol – I love it, because he dominated.
Pete, BR answered your question about 20/70 players:
‘It’s never been done before.’
http://www.baseball-reference......hives/2413
Oh please rconn. Do you know how many times we’ve had an SJ imposter here. So we all try to think of the SJ we know the best and when the comments don’t seen like something he would say, we say so. Go back to sleep.
“Make that A Long Island , Tricia”
Pat M –
I am definitely a teetotaller – and not Long Island, either!
Well, since the Real SJ vs the Fake SJ caper holds limited interest for me, I will bid you all good night. Hope we hang on to this one.
Doreen, on other boards, I see that people have brought of K-Rod as an example of someone who had little experience in the big leagues before being put on the post-season roster.
Bodh, I appreciate the scouting report on Melancon. I’m rooting for him, if not for this year, then for next.
Very odd game. Yankees have 7 runs, but don’t look especially good at the plate tonight. I know, I know, no points for presentation.
Alex baby!!
Uh oh
SEA 4 OAK 0 Top 1st
Will the real Brett Tomko please stand up?
Oh that A-Rod.
Nice insurance
pad those stats
Alex!!
why can’t tex bunt just once….? to make them think more before they put the shift on??????
Well, that sure had some good “presentation!”
I was hoping he would get one more at bat to get a HR.
Nice!!! Great to have that insurance run back.
shorter stride, more stat padding
wow..that ball went out huh…strong
what, alex and jeter are sitting next to each other and talking? I’m confused
Giants had 21-0 lead at one time..Now 38-27 Pats
“It really is passive aggressive behavior at it’s zenith when people don’t like what SJ44 has to say, and then accuse someone of impersonating him.”
welcome to the cuckoo’s nest.
i never have that problem with people impersonating me or accusing me of impersonating me.
one night cb was trying to be funny from lessons nick in sf had given him so i kept telling him he wasn’t cb. but it really was cb.
i finally made him tell me what a black swan was and he did so i knew it was him.
Jorge, you are something.
Posada!! !!!!!
What is it with this team and the 9th inning??
I love David Cone providing the stats.
And they do it again!
Umm Jorge? AGAIN. Wowza. We really like the 9th inning huh!
Cone with some cool team pitching stats tonight… btw the Yanks have a video game offense
Anybody notice during Teix’s ABs after swings he always has that ..(YEH WATEVA) face.
Posada becomes #7 to get to 20 HR. Franchise record!
Like I said yesterday this team has the killer instinct.
Jorge!
Sit down, Phil!
“Giants had 21-0 lead at one time..Now 38-27 Pats”
Every pre-season this happens… the first team looks impressive and scores on their first 2 drives. Then the 2nd team comes in and the other team score likes 30 points and we can’t get a first down.
And now…7 players with 20/70
Come on Jeter, stop holding us back
Congrats Jorge >>> Now in the 20/70 Club!!!
aw, the probable end of Cano’s hitting streak…….
The only bad part about the 9th inning scoring spree is that Hughes or MO are usually all warmed up and ready to go.
Atleast in the 8th, they are just soft tossing and can easily just sit back down.
Not that it matters at all, they can get all the insurance they can get, just saying it causes a lot of “dry humps”.
Go run differencial!
lol at the wild pitch
Frasor self destructing
10 game homestand coming up… Jete needs to hit 3 HRs in the worst way…
Wow.
Juuuust a little outside.
That ball bounced to 3B LOL
Jeter needs to eat his Wheaties so he can hit home runs
I wonder if CC DH’d for a full season if he could hit 20 HRs also.
I may be alone on certain things but one thing I truly believe I am alone on is having difficulty watching teams get beat up by us and feeling good about it. That is definitely my internal fight.
Night all.
Melancon now?
If Bruney gets on track, the Yanks improve significantly……Getting him fixed is just about the most important item for the Yanks down the stretch, next to staying healthy……
Trisha, this should make u feel better, the minimum league salary is almost 400,000 dollars. no matter how your team does in the standings.
trisha,
Agree. I feel bad when we beat up on teams that aren’t the Sucks or the Mutts…..
Anyone want to guess who pitches the 9th?
“If Bruney gets on track, the Yanks improve significantly……Getting him fixed is just about the most important item for the Yanks down the stretch, next to staying healthy……”
Bingo, PAT. If only the Melancon fanatics would realize this…
We have a 7 game lead for god sakes… why not see if we can fix Bruney? We have a whole month to do so.
LOL Come on…….Bruney again? Why?
dont feel so bad about not seeing melancon or dunn
the bullpen will be used a lot tommorrow and those guys will surely pitch
Bruney again in the 9th. Playing with fire here.
bruney doesn’t matter. he’s just a bonus if they get him going. they’ve gotten this far basically without him being effective. they’d play well in the playoffs with or without him pitching well.
L,
I’ll say Joe still goes with Hughes
Bruney…4 pitch walk. He stinks.
Bruney sucks !
Dear god..5 run lead he walks the leadoff.
Wow, Bruney…….lol pathetic
Albaladejo will probably come in….
that was ambitious of you, joe.
bruney is un-believeable.
You have about 8 pitchers sitting in the BP for 3 outs.
You’re going to use the BP a lot this weekend (Joba, Mitre).
Why Joe why?
“Bruney can’t throw the ball over the plate either. He hasn’t struck out anybody in his last 7 outings.” – sj44
if this is an impostor he’s giving really good info ( though it looks like the last 6 appearances to me after a quick look see )
I am not a Melancon fanatic and I’m not married to him. Bruney, IMO, is not fixable at this point……..how far do you want to take it with this guy? Joe needs to give other pitchers a chance to do the job.
Lets get some Bruney rules and limit his innings to like one a week. God he cannot pitch in the playoffs, can he?
The last man in the pen, whether it is Bruney or Gaudin or Melancon, won’t even see meaningful action in the postseason.
MO is the closer
Hughes is the setup man
Ace is the long man
Robertson is the 6th-7th inning guy
Coke is lefty #1
Marte is lefty #2
Whoever grabs the final spot isin’t going to have much of a role anyway.
This is like Groundhog Day all over again……..the movie, not the holiday
Well, I’m interested in seeing how Marte does……
“Trisha, this should make u feel better, the minimum league salary is almost 400,000 dollars. no matter how your team does in the standings.”
Okay, maybe by inches.
“trisha,
Agree. I feel bad when we beat up on teams that aren’t the Sucks or the Mutts”
Thank you for that! That really helps me feel a little better about feeling that way. It isn’t just me.
Bizarro Baseball- People are happy Alex is hitting singles but want Derek to HRs?
Erick
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
“If Bruney gets on track, the Yanks improve significantly……Getting him fixed is just about the most important item for the Yanks down the stretch, next to staying healthy……”
Bingo, PAT. If only the Melancon fanatics would realize this…
We have a 7 game lead for god sakes… why not see if we can fix Bruney? We have a whole month to do so.
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fixing bruney is not remotely close in importance as fixing burnett & or joba
different planets
Wow, Joe is leaving Marte in to face a righty?!?!?
Blasphemy!!!
Isn’t it ironic that Brian Bruney’s initials are BB?
Do you hear the guy screaming at Wells about being the worst contract in baseball? Tough crowd!
David Cone gave some very interesting stats in the top of the ninth:
++only five times this season have the Yanks lost a game when their starter had a quality start (6 IP w/3 ER or less)
++the Yanks have won 24 games when their starter has been in a position to lose the game
++eight of those ‘saved losses’ have been for Joba Chamberlain
Welcome my son, welcome to The Machine.
Can anyone on this team throw strikes?
Geez
Did Girardi really have to start Bruney in the 9th. He is struggling and just pitch a 1-2-3 inning let him gain some confidence back. Does he really need to do lefty-righty matchups up by 5 runs. He should of just let Marte start the innning.
Marte looking good……..
Marte looking good…
Pat, I hear it too, that guy needs life!
Coke! Betsy
So if Marte gets through the 9th, does he get credit for the save?
Yanks win! 22!!
Burnett got heckled about his contract in Baltimore back in May
He was signing autographs for a Yankee fan and he heckled him LMAO
86-48.
This Marte guy isn’t bad.
Nice job by Marte
Looking good, Marte.
Looking good.
Yay – another day, another win – ridiculous.
Great job, Marte!
The Yankees win!
I sure hope Marte is not just teasing us!!! Good outing.
very impressive inning by marte
I was surprised to see Bruney come out in the ninth. Girardi certainly didn’t waste any time getting him out of the game, however.
No save for Marte or anyone else.
Come on now, Marte’s the real deal. He’s just getting back into form.
Marte looks better at 93 mph off of rehab than he looked w/ 96 mph before it.
last night cb had that interesting .900 ops stat after the 7th inning for the yankees.
he’s not kidding. they are just mashing other teams late in games.
It was Bruney’s game to save and he couldn’t seal the deal.
Marte struck out 2 righties to end the game… hope that shows Joe he can be more than a LOOGY
Announcement-
The Yankees have won tonight’s “Must Win” game. Whew
Thank goodness for Sept callups
BP will need to go 4-5 tomorrow.
At least no Yuuuuse or Coke tonight
86-48. Not too shabby.
Looks like BOS & TEX left standing for WC
Aceves has as many wins as AJ… Wow
As things stand right now, the Yanks have the edge in the 9th & 8th inning arms in any battle of the bullpens…..Having Bruney right ( As in the April edition ) would certainly add to that edge and shorten the game tremendously….Add Aceves, Coke, Marte, Robertson and you’re looking at the best bullpen in baseball……As we know , Championships are won in the late innings…..Just look at 2004
If Melancon doesn’t pitch tommorow after Joba is done something is wrong with Girardi. If he uses Edwar or Albaledejo Girardi should be get his head examined. Melancon was pitching very well before he got sent down.
randy l. September 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
last night cb had that interesting .900 ops stat after the 7th inning for the yankees.
he’s not kidding. they are just mashing other teams late in games.
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This club certainly has a sense of urgency!! So many guys have been flat out clutch
now is the time to see if bruney is any worthy… when do u want joe to test him? in the playoffs????
go yanks!!
I’m capturing the post-game audio still, but I can’t upload it anywhere. zshare is down.
I’ll keep checking.
Erica,
I was a little concerned there.
Pat M.
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
As things stand right now, the Yanks have the edge in the 9th & 8th inning arms in any battle of the bullpens…..Having Bruney right ( As in the April edition ) would certainly add to that edge and shorten the game tremendously….Add Aceves, Coke, Marte, Robertson and you’re looking at the best bullpen in baseball……As we know , Championships are won in the late innings…..Just look at 2004
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I agree the yankees have a big lead they should give Bruney regular work and Dave Eiland needs to fix whatever is wrong with him. He was great in april and was dominant last year.
Bruney was “unfixable” after the 2007 season and he came back and was outstanding in 2008.
He was also outstanding this season before he went down on that long DL stint because of his elbow problem.
Bruney is capable of being dominant. It’s in the Yanks best interest to get him right.
After the tear Jeter’s been on, I’d have expected him to have a few off games. He’s not a player who can carry a .400+ streak through the final two months of a season. I think he can finish in the .330s this year but as best I can remember (just off the top of my head now) he’s only finished better than .340 once.
On an individual level, there’s no doubt he’ll pass Gehrig soon. The milestone I’ll be keeping my eye on is 20HR.
With Posada getting his 20th today, that gives the team 7 guys with 20HR. Jeter needs 3 more jacks to make it 8 guys with 20 (first team ever to do that) and with 3 1/2 weeks left it’ll be close.
More importantly, it’s no big deal if Jeter has a September mini slump for 4 or 5 games or so, but you have to hope he has nothing more than a just a ‘mini slump’. October’s coming and that’s when it really counts. I’m sure he’ll be on his game in October.
Huuuughes acting like a cross between Mo and Joba outta the pen sure makes it easier to look forward to the last couple innings when October comes along too.
Jorge’s YES post-game reaction:
http://s4ve.as/pages/download/11437/jp.mp3
Thanks pel
Aceves acting like the old Ramiro Mendoza outta the pen is pretty reassuring too.
I’m liking what I see from Marte. He’s been dealing.
Jeter needs a day off – he hasn’t had a good swing in days. even though he was robbed of a hit tonight, he needs to regroup.
Wishful thinking if you guys think Bruney is off the postseason roster
MR. Franco, Can you imagine what it would be like for opposing teams with the prospects of facing Bruney, Hughes and then the Supreme stopper Mariano Rivera…..It’s a lockdown bullpen……
YES post-game Booth Report with Bob Lorenz, Michael Kay, and David Cone:
http://bit.ly/vRCGx
>Thanks pel
I stand corrected. Jeter’s best 3 season BA’s were .349, .343, and .339 … still, a .400+ clip is a hard one to sustain for anyone.
Ace deserves the wins he good,and reliable.
-Pete I have to disagree about the worst fans.
You haven’t seen anything,like a RAIDER Grandma,toothless,in a tank top with tattoo’s drunk and cursing at you,trying to start a fight, not for nothing!
-Marte is solid.
-Jeter 4 a/b no hits,he needs a day off.
-Joba vs Halladay? My head hurts already.
Pat M. September 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
MR. Franco, Can you imagine what it would be like for opposing teams with the prospects of facing Bruney, Hughes and then the Supreme stopper Mariano Rivera…..It’s a lockdown bullpen……
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Absolutely. And guys like Marte, Coke, and Robertson are the middle relief arms with Aceves in the long role more often than not.
All of these guys have swing and miss stuff for the exception of Aceves. Opposing teams put the bat on the ball less often against the Yanks than any other pen in the league.
I’d like to see these guys get their walk totals down a few ticks, but you can’t complain about the arms they’ve got down there.
bruney can be dominant!!!! no he can’t he stinks. he cannot throw strikes he is a tease.
he should not make postgame roster. try melancon, please…
Guys, just because Jeter went 0-4 doesn’t mean he “needs” a day off. That’s kind of crazy ( I mean wow are we getting spoiled or what?) Plus, he looked great in the field today. Not saying he shouldn’t get a day off this series just to have some rest, but its not “needed”
Are you guys talking about the Brian Bruney that exists or the Brian Bruney you want to exist??
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/w5So0
stuart September 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 pm
bruney can be dominant!!!! no he can’t he stinks. he cannot throw strikes he is a tease.
he should not make postgame roster. try melancon, please…
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Check out Bruney’s stats from 2008 and this season before he went down with the elbow issue.
He was unhittable. Teams were hitting about .140 against him and he was striking out hitters like mad.
So review the stats before you make a fool of yourself yet again.
All the pieces are falling into place for Cashman……….Nick in SF, I just placed a bet on A-Rod getting 100 rbi’s….4 TO 1……
Jeter 0*-4
I see that somebody was complaining about Bruney’s 8th inning, because they hit a couple of hard balls. He’s a strikeout/flyball pitcher. The first one was hit to the big part of the park and then, a strikeout and then a smallish middle infielder then tried to muscle a pitch and hit it to the off field. Not a thing wrong with that inning.
Not sure if Girardi was trying to get Bruney the save or was trying to see how far he could push him. It was obvious that he was going batter to batter. Marte came in and did what he was supposed to do. Freeze the runner and got outs.
Not sure why people are surprised about Gaudin, because he has always been a run-of-the-mill starter and reliever….good stuff and inconsistant. NYY knew that when they picked him up. Really no different that Chacon was throughout his career.
Nick in SF September 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Are you guys talking about the Brian Bruney that exists or the Brian Bruney you want to exist??
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Fair question. But he’s capable of being dominant. We’ve seen him do it.
And Girardi wants to see if he can do it again. It’s in the Yanks best interest to try because he would be yet another great weapon.
You can run and hide all night long, GB7, but Cesar Romero was in “The Thin Man”… don’t deny it…
The only pitcher on the team with a better WHIP than Aceves is Mariano.
Come to think of it, the best WHIP among our starters is CC at 1.13. Hughes’ is at 1.14 and he’s got the 4th best WHIP of the regular relievers. Coke 1.12, Aceves 1.03 and mo 0.90 make a good bullpen. I can’t remember the last time we had 4 relievers at one time who weren’t downright scary to watch. I wonder how that compares to other teams too, and to NY’s benchmark/epic 98 season.
GF, I refer you to my post of 10:14 for my true feelings on the subject, but overall I’m skeptical about Bruney ever being trustworthy. I would love to be wrong about that, he can be a serious weapon if he ever puts it back together.
How old is D. Rob? He looks 15 in this postgame.
GB, Did you see the post about the great Sandy Koufax earlier ???? Kaat & Costas were comparing the dominace of Pedro to that of Sandy……All agreed that as great as Pedro was he falls short of the great Koufax……One year Koufax had 300 more strikeouts than walks….That is mind boggling
Gaudin’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/n19KT
Robertson’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/28iL9I
-Smoltz came back to earth with his 1st loss today.
-Pedro vs Lincecum,Pedto won 2-1
-Why did CWS play Chicago Cubs,when one is AL and the other IS NL? Could it be a makeup game?
I am with you, Joba is delusional!!
i’d rather see igawa on the postseason roster than bruney
wake up and smell the coffee… bruney cant throw strikes and gives up gopherballs galore…
There is less chance to score with a runner on third and one out then there is with a runner on second and no outs. For a guy who was supposed to down with such metrics, how does Joe Girardi not understand that?rardi not understand that?
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+1
How many mound visits for Joba tomorrow?
I’ll say 12
7 for Posada, 5 for Eliand…
Speaking of the playoffs, could we have Joba in the ‘pen in Round 1? Don’t get me wrong – I’m not a Joba to the ‘pen kind of guy. But if the Yankees have the best record, they can choose the series with the extra days off, such that they can use 3 starters all on regular rest. Could that mean Joba to Phil to Mariano in Round 1? Yikes!!!
Al’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/13jGSh
The Captain’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/2NAwg1
Pat M.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
GB, Did you see the post about the great Sandy Koufax earlier ???? Kaat & Costas were comparing the dominace of Pedro to that of Sandy……All agreed that as great as Pedro was he falls short of the great Koufax……One year Koufax had 300 more strikeouts than walks….That is mind boggling
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I saw that, PAT M. I’d brought up the things that Koufax accomplished, as you have. No sense in my adding to it. He was over a 6 year period, as good/dominant a pitcher as any that I’ve ever seen. To put it in perspective, minus the ’62 season that was cut short when he damaged his elbow, the next your consecutive years were basically what Guidry accomplished in ’77.
That was when he spent years facing Aaron/Matthews/Adcock/Carty, Banks/Williams/Santo, Allen/Callison, Musial/Boyer/Flood/Brock/White, and McCovey/Mays/Hart/Cepada/Alou lineups. That’s just brutal. Marichal didn’t have to face that Giants team. Gibson came about as close to Koufax dominance.
He was a Massarotti and everybody else were Ferraris. The pity was in ’62, when he banged his elbow on the ground on a slide into second base, it cost him a shot at 4,000 strikeouts and 300 wins. He was that good.
Psyched about Marte right now. The velo on his fastball is back, he was sitting 91-94. Nasty slider too.
If he keeps pitching like this he will be the lefty in the playoffs, not Phil Coke.
I didn’t even mention the torture of getting past Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson. Koufax and the Dodger pitchers knew that if the allowed more than 3 runs, they most likely were going to lose.
I suspect there will be 2 lefties in the playoffs.
Thanks Pel!
That comment from Alex about the cop was funny.
“I suspect there will be 2 lefties in the playoffs.”
Obviously. My point was that Marte will be option A vs lefties. Coke will be the second lefty out of the pen rather than a primary set-up man.
GB, How about Willie Mays & Willie McCovey, or Eddie Matthews & Hank Aaron….But 300 more K’s than walks, I never knew that
Pat M.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
GB, Did you see the post about the great Sandy Koufax earlier ???? Kaat & Costas were comparing the dominace of Pedro to that of Sandy……All agreed that as great as Pedro was he falls short of the great Koufax……One year Koufax had 300 more strikeouts than walks….That is mind boggling
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To put Koufax’ 6 year run in perspective, it was like Guidry in 1978 6 times. Imagine the lineups. Aaron/Matthews/Adcock/Carty, Allen/Callison, Mays/McCovey/Alou/Cepeda/Hart, Banks/williams/Santo, Boyer/Musial/White/Flood/Brock, Frank Robinson/Vada Pinson, Clemente/Stargell/Clendennon. That’s just brutal.
The sad part was him wrecking his elbow in 1962 and having the arthritic elbow cost him 4,000 strikeouts and 300 wins. He was that good. Koufax and the Dodger pitchers knew that if they gave up 3 runs, chances are they were going to lose. Gibson, Drysdale and Marachel were Ferraris. Koufax was a Masserotti.
Manny has really hurt the Dodgers chemistry coming back,unless THEY WIN this game they are playing now,they’ll stay tied with THE Cards for 1st place,after leading all baseball most of the season.
Pat M.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 pm
GB, How about Willie Mays & Willie McCovey, or Eddie Matthews & Hank Aaron….But 300 more K’s than walks, I never knew that
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PAT M, I just spent 15 minutes trying to answer that and for whatever reason, both were rejected. I’ll try again, because I listed some of those lineups that he faced. Give me a few minutes….AGAIN.
Did Boise St. look great in that first half or was Oregon just awful? Bad for the Pac-10 but could bode well for the Cal-Oregon matchup later this month…
Nick in SF September 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
GF, I refer you to my post of 10:14 for my true feelings on the subject, but overall I’m skeptical about Bruney ever being trustworthy. I would love to be wrong about that, he can be a serious weapon if he ever puts it back together.
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I can certainly understand that. But, again, he’s capable of doing it because he’s done it before.
And given the Yanks big lead in September, it would be stupid not to at least try to get him right given his talent.
They’ve got nothing to lose and a whole lot to gain.
I’m afraid I must disagree with those who feel Bruney will ever become consistent. He had a brief period of consistentcy for us, but ever-so-brief when you consider his overall career. Those numbers don’t lie.
My brother, a Diamondbacks fan, said a hearty “good riddance” when the D-backs dumped him and I was bragging about our pick-up. I’m afraid Bruney will always be a Farnsworth-type pitcher. Someone who tantalizes on occasion but never really masters the mechanics as needed.
Beyond his mechancs, his attitude hurts him, as well.
Nick.
I did not make any pick suggestions! Luckily I bet BG in the 2nd half but still am I down for the eve. I followed Pat M and Boise so that could make the night a wash. We know how that goes…The old meaningless field goal trying to break even. If it does not cover I have some work ahead of me this weekend.
Great time of year for sports..
-dennis
Nobody ever said Bruney is going to be the next big gun in the Yankee pen. They’ve got Hughes and Mo for that.
Pat and I are simply making the point that getting him right is an extremely worthy cause this month because he could be yet another weapon in the later innings.
It’s not that complicated.
Adding another swing and miss arm that can get hitters out only helps the team and it behooves the Yanks’ chances of winning the WS if they do get him pitching better more consistently.
Neither of us are about to tell you that Bruney is the next best thing. We’ve seen him get hitters out before.
Mr. Franco, I’m with you…Give Brian the ball as much as possible without costing the team wins of course…..However the club is in position to provide him with the necessary innings to get right….It’s not like trying an experiment with an unknown entity…..If Bruney can regain his touch and command, it would give the ballclub an amazing last 1/3 of the game advantage that could propel them into the promise land
GFranco: I guess I don’t believe it IS a worthy cause to try and “get him right” as you say. I don’t think it’s going to happen. It’s not that complicated
I do understand Joe’s need to try and help Bruney as much as he can, though. That’s Joe being Joe.
I’d rather use the innings on Melancon and see what we have there. I’d avoid Edgar and Albie altogether.
I like Melancon too but he’s probably not going to be on the postseason roster.
Bruney WILL be on the postseason roster regardless what the fans think.
That’s why it’s a worthy cause to get him right and the reason Girardi keeps going to him.
It sounds more noble when you call it a cause.
Remember guys, Brian Bruney was to be the set-up arm for Rivera this season…And he came out of camp being lights out until the Boston series in Fenway…..Just think what the pen would be if he comes around ?? I just think he’s pressing and rushing to get back to where he was…..There’s a month remaining, the equivalent of an extended Spring training of sorts…..The Bombers are in the ideal position to make this happen……..Oregon has yet to get a 1st down ….Yikes
“Remember guys, Brian Bruney was to be the set-up arm for Rivera this season…”
Yeah, well, I hope they don’t make THAT mistake again next season.
Go Ducks!
Yeah, well, I hope they don’t make THAT mistake again next season.
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Bruney was lights out until he got injured. There was a stretch where he struck out like 13 of 15 batters faced.
That series in Tampa where AJ dominated, Bruney absolutely annihilated those guys
Nick in SF. I’m sensing that you’re not perticularly fond on Mr. Bruney ???? What do you think of my A-Rod 100 rbi’s wager ?? If he gets his 100 or so AB’s I have a shot
As long as they get someone capable of handling that all important 8th inning role (rolls eyes) because I might go postal if we have to go through another season of “Joba or Hughes to the pen” arguments.
Good night Yankee people!!!
I love how Baseball tonight says the New York Yankees look the best, but then say is their an achillies heel. LOL !
Their bias is funny !
Bruney hasn’t been pretty while getting the job done, but, 1 run in the last 9 games hasn’t cost NYY any wins, either. 1 run in the last 10 games, covering 10 innings. The 7 walks are a problem, but, he’s not allowing them to score. That matters quite a bit. 3 of those walks were in one game. Only Rivera and Hughes has a longer scoreless streak going for the Yanks. Like I said, he’s not pretty at times, but, he’s better than watching Edwar Ramirez getting lit up.
Jerkface September 4th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Bruney was lights out until he got injured. There was a stretch where he struck out like 13 of 15 batters faced.
That series in Tampa where AJ dominated, Bruney absolutely annihilated those guys
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Exactly. At least someone else has a good memory. I know it was early in the season but it wasn’t THAT long ago.
Bruney was filthy early in the season. It would be spiffy if Girardi could get him right heading into October.
Love the title of this article on nesn.com
-Redsawx using spare parts to contend for postseason.Funny!
Noooooo, I am not unfond of Bruney, I was the original “I’m a Bruney Believer” pin wearer on LoHud. I hope he puts it together. I just don’t really trust him anymore. He has definitely had stretches of dominance, but they never seem to last all that long… I hope we see more of it.
As for Arod 100 rbi, it’s probably a decent gamble, but the worry is that he gets more rest as October draws nearer.
Pat M.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Nick in SF. I’m sensing that you’re not perticularly fond on Mr. Bruney ???? What do you think of my A-Rod 100 rbi’s wager ?? If he gets his 100 or so AB’s I have a shot
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He has a string of 100 Runs scored, 35 homers and 100 RBI going at 11 straight years. Not likely that he keeps the 100 Runs scored in tact, but, the other two are doable.
They should just put Melancon on the postseason roster because Bruney is a mess. I rather have a young kid with talent and fire.
New Thread…We’ll continue there
Jeter is bunting for a hit every single time he does that. At worst, it is a sacrifice and he keeps his average up. Either way it still helps the team.
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Honestly, the emailer should have just used the email address notthesharpestoolintheshed@ignorantscammer.com with a screw-up like that.