Prince might be best served to wear the Great Gazoo helmet designed by Rawlings the next time his team plays the Giants. That was ridiculous; I expect that from 8-year old girls playing recreation softball.
this was 2 days ago no? i saw this on sportscenter. who cares how they celebrate, short of pointing and taunting the other team. Someone needs to tell the teams the best way to shut up another team is to not give up a walkoff homerun. then you dont have to worry about how they celebrate.
He didn’t pitch well last night again. 3 innings, when they wanted 4, 5 baserunners, 2 runs. That’s not good at all.
Its pretty telling that Derek Jeter, a guy who would rather eat glass than show up someone in a game, had to get in the kids face in the first inning to get him to re-focus. In September no less.
They wanted Joba to go 4 innings last night. He knew that going into the start. The game was itself was meaningless. Its not like he had real pressure on him.
What does he do? Continue to throw 90-91 MPH fastballs in the middle of the plate and then begin shaking off Molina after the first two hitters. In other words, “Bad Joba”, regardless of who was catching him, was in full bloom once again.
How is it exactly that you need the captain of the team to get in your grill in the first inning, following by Molina telling him to cut out the shaking off crap, when you know you need to show something in this game? Where is his focus?
Bottom line is, this kid is going to have to do some soul searching in the off-season and decide just how much he wants to be a successful starting pitcher. His way, which he continues to insist on doing, despite all the meetings with the manager, pitching coach and catchers, to do otherwise, isn’t working.
These guys are looking to win a World Series. They aren’t going to put up with his nonsense much longer. He either gets it going, or they will have to make adjustments to keep him from game situations where he can hurt you.
Jeter’s talk wasn’t a, “just stick with your pitches” type of talk.
When Derek does that, its quick and he’s back at SS. This was more than that, as it should have been.
Joba has a lot of talent. He also has been probably the biggest underachiever on the team this year. Talent alone doesn’t get you far in the game.
I hope he uses this season as a lesson that he has to come to ST next year in much better shape and be a helluva lot more coachable than he has been this year.
If he does that, this humbling season will be the best thing ever to happen to him because it will make him a pitcher player in the future.
If Prince and the Brewers spent half the time they do on coming up with celebration performances on actually playing baseball then maybe they wouldnt be 17 games out of first right now. That bothers me more than the actual celebration.
I wouldn’t have a problem if the Yankees did that, or a first-place team, they are winners and have something to celebrate. The Brew Crew is 17 games out and going nowhere. Not that they shouldn’t celebrate a win, but this had to be planned – maybe they should should focus more on their game than on their celebrations.
Would AJ’s pie antics go down well if the Yankees were in 4th place, 17 games out? I don’t think so.
Also, please explain to me how this is any worse than the usual pile on at home plate? It’s not like he wiped his *ss with a Giants jersey at home plate or anything like that. This isn’t much worse than the Yankees throwing the helmet like a boquet.
Anyway, fun game for a boring work day. Other team’s feelings aside and keeping it realistic let’s come up with some creative walk-off HR celebrations.
How about batter homers rounds the bases and then jumps on top of crowd of teammates crowd surfing style?
September 10th, 2009 at 9:58 am
It was just you. Joba is over-rated and will be lucky to be in the league next year.
this is either a joke or a really dumb comment coming from someone with alsolutely no knowledge of baseball.
The poster in question wrote “head hunter”. That should tip you off what motivates him/her.
As to your question, no, it wasn’t just you.
Joba was dramatically better. He himself said delivery-wise, that’s the best he’s felt all season – which is saying something, since he’s had a few good outings in 2009, especially right after the All-Star Break.
You could see that coming, however.
Whatever Jeter or Eiland said, he re-focused, and started attacking with his FB. He did it in the ChiSox start, and even in the Toronto game (with worse results).
What’s encouraging from those starts – especially ChiSox – was that he was pushing a extremely yeoman-like FB, which he’s been reluctant to do. Toronto he started fiddlng again, but he was attacking earlier in that game.
What happened last night is, the recommittment to establish his FB paid off – he started to get some run on it and was throwing 95 mph.
That is unquesionable progress. He started to zip along – when was the last time we saw that?
To me, that wasn’t only progress, it was a thing of beauty. I just wish he would have been left in there for one more inning. He was zipping – and I wanted to see him sailing.
When Joba’s throwing his FB, working quickly, in 2-strike counts, he’s alright. I think he has turned a corner, and I look for him to pick up where he left off last night.
Especially encouraging when the player tells you: “That’s the best I’ve been with my delivery all year.”
That’s from the horse’s mouth. Very, very positive.
I don’t think it’s purism when I have a problem with an entire team choreographing a routine when someone hits a walk-off. I don’t subscribe to the knee-jerk response of “wait until the Giants face him again and drill him in the back,” but I think a team with nothing more to play for this season should be more concerned with playing hard and winning whatever games they have left. “Enjoy yourself” by winning, not by acting like you’re in A Chorus Line or something.
Keep the NFL and NBA Garbage in the NFL and NBA. No need for this type of behavior in baseball. Tell Prince to keep his shirt tucked in also. What a SLOB. Have some respect for the game. Could you see Jeter doing it? Give me a break.
It was funny, of course, and original. The Giants shouldn’t interpret it as a disrespect, since it had nothing to do with them.
Now, as this game is about winning and not personal goals, I don’t see how you can celebrate when you are 17 games out, under .500 and losing 7 of the last 10… Just don’t understand, unless Fielder is the only thing the people go see, not the Brewers winning.
Hilarious. By poking some fun at his own physique, Fielder & Co. distinguished their celebrations from the “me-me-me-me” type antics. He didn’t put down the Giants in any way. Hopefully they got a laugh out of it as well.
From reading some of the comments here, it’s no wonder some people think that Yankee fans are snobs. It was simply their way of having fun with a walkoff win. And what was with the comment about “keep your shirt tucked in?” THE GAME IS OVER. WHO CARES??????
seriously, some of you need to get over yourself and remember that these guys are playing a GAME.
a game that is supposed to be fun to play.
they could be 10-130 and 90 games out of first place, and you are still allowed to celebrate WINNING A GAME.
something tells me you were all perpetual losers growing up.
It was different and I like seeing something different for a change. Baseball has too many “unwritten rules” about this and that. The other team should just suck it up and do better next time. There’s just too much complaining by baseball fans about just about everything imaginable. It’s not life or death folks, it about having fun. Personally, I am having more fun watching years team than in a long time, savor it.
“Now, as this game is about winning and not personal goals, I don’t see how you can celebrate when you are 17 games out, under .500 and losing 7 of the last 10… Just don’t understand, unless Fielder is the only thing the people go see, not the Brewers winning.”
So all the teams that are under 500 should never celebrate anything. Doesn’t sound very reasonable to me.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes September 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am
“To me, that wasn’t only progress, it was a thing of beauty. I just wish he would have been left in there for one more inning. He was zipping – and I wanted to see him sailing.”
I think Girardi took him out to guarantee that he finished on a very positive note. Which is very important to his confidence and something he badly needed. If he had faltered in the 4th inning then the positives from the start would have been lost. On the other hand it may have just been from the high pitch count, 40 pitches, in the 1st inning.
So you think that was “planning a huge thing”. Come on. It was more likely something that was thought up on the spur of the moment. Besides, “huge”…that’s a bit of an over statement, but then you are commenting on the spur of the moment.
It was nice to read Bodh’s affirmative post on Joba’s pitching after SJ44′s usual clinical approach. Joba was indeed better last night and I think a person has to be closed-minded not to see it.
He was not perfect, AND NO PITCHER IS IN A GAME. He retired the last eight batters he faced. He had a couple of assists himself. Whatever Jeter said to him did help. I missed the first inning so I didn’t see the shakeoffs. However, in the 2nd and 3rd the shake-offs were minimal in my opinion. I had hoped he would go 4 innings and believed he could after those last 8 outs. But it is Girardi’s decision to make.
He still is not pitching with the sheer confidence he did in the past 2 years. So, something or someone, has shaken that confidence. When that can be cleared up he will be able to trust himself and others and return to that electric pitcher we witnessed and liked.
To completely dismiss him as a Yankee pitcher is only something that the Yankee organization can do. So fans, be objective, do not panic until Management does.
I, for one, look forward to his next game. The playoffs and WS are still weeks away. Anything can happen in that time with the current rotation and bullpen.