Game 144: Orioles at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 13, 2009 
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YANKEES (91-52)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (16-7, 3.40).
ORIOLES (58-83)
Roberts 2B
Izturis SS
Markakis RF
Reimold LF
Wigginton 1B
Wieters DH
Turner 3B
Moeller C
Fiorentino CF
Pitching: RHP Jeremy Guthrie (10-13, 4.96).
TIME/TV: 1:05, YES.
STATE OF THE ‘STRIPES: The Yankees have lost two straight and are trying to salvage the last game of the series. They lead the Red Sox by 7.5 games in the AL East and the Angels by five games in the race for home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
UGLY DOINGS: The Yankees have been outscored 17-7 in the series by the hapless Orioles so far in the series. The Yankees are 12-5 against the Orioles this season.
THREE TIMES NOT A CHARM: The Yankees have not lost three straight since July 30-Aug. 1 in Chicago. They have not lost three straight at home since the pre-Alex Rodriguez days when they dropped five straight at home from May 2-7 against the Angels, Red Sox and Rays. There was panic in the streets back then.
THAT’S CC AS IN COOL CUSTOMER: Sabathia is 6-0 with a 2.31 ERA in his last eight starts.
NOT YOU AGAIN: Sabathia is 3-1 with a 2.63 ERA in four starts against the Orioles this season. He has not allowed a home run against the Orioles in 27.1 innings.
FINISHING STRONG: The Baltimore starter is 3-1 with a 1.33 ERA in his last four starts. But he is 1-3 with a 4.68 ERA in four starts against the Yankees this season.
MR. SEPTEMBER: A-Rod is 17 of 40 this month with six runs scored, 13 RBI and four extra-base hits over 10 games.
WE WANT RAMIRO: Derek Jeter is 6 of his last 25 (.240).
MIGHTY MO: Mariano Rivera, who has not pitched since Tuesday, has allowed one run in his last 30 appearances. It’s amazing the Rivera has as many RBI (one) as earned runs allowed (one) since June 16. His line since then: 31 14 1 1 7 32. That’s just insane.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Musta Got Lost by the mighty J. Geils Band. The live version.
Back with much more later.
UPDATE, 10:41 a.m.: Not much news this morning. Damon feels better and returns to the lineup after missing two days with a bad back. Beyond that, all is quiet for now.
The guys were all discussing college football. Jeter is thrilled Michigan beat ND. Swisher is bummed about Ohio State. Girardi’s Northwestern Wildcats are 2-0.
UPDATE, 1:08 p.m.: We are underway in the Bronx on a beautiful day. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: What a great teammate CC Sabathia is. To make A.J. Burnett feel better he’s pitching a terrible second inning against Baltimore after being handed a 1-0 lead, too.
But at least it’s 2-1 and not 6-1.
UPDATE, 2:02 p.m.: A-Rod’s approach with RISP has been very good this season. He’s not trying to do too much. Everything is up the middle and his pitch selection has been great. He seems so much more at ease at the plate.
He’s at .306 with RISP with 18 walks and only 15 strikeouts.
UPDATE, 2:13 p.m.: And there it is, the dumbest play of the year. Damon thought there were two outs and Turner scored from second on a fly ball.
If the Yankees lose this game by a run he’s going to get slammed.
UPDATE, 2:19 p.m.: Don’t you get the feeling that Damon will get up this inning when men on base?
UPDATE, 2:22 p.m.: 3-3 in the fourth inning at home with no outs and two on and Jeter wants to bunt. By the way, Derek, YOU HAVE THE MOST HITS IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE.
I just don’t get it. I just don’t. It makes no sense.
UPDATE, 2:25 p.m.: Here we are, Damon up with a chance to atone.
UPDATE, 2:28 p.m.: Damon walks, Tex fans with the bases loaded, now it falls to A-Rod to try and give them the lead.
UPDATE, 2:32 p.m.: Alex fans looking. Yankees should have gotten a whole lot more than two runs out of that. They are 3 for 11 with runners in scoring position today. Guthrie is walking a tightrope. He has allowed eight hits and two walks in four innings and only three runs. Yanks have stranded seven.
UPDATE, 2:42 p.m.: Girardi just got tossed before the first pitch of the inning. It has to do with A-Rod.
Alex struck out looking to end the last inning on a close pitch. He was agitated but didn’t seem to get too crazy. Then as Matsui went to the plate, Alex and umpire Marty Foster were jawing and out came Girardi, who got tossed right away.
Alex was tossed too, which led to Girardi getting run.
That was as hot as I have ever seen Girardi. He had to be held back at one point. That could earn him a suspension.
UPDATE, 2:46 p.m.: That’s irresponsible of Alex to get tossed out there. At some point you have to let it go. Now it’s 3-3 and they don’t have their clean-up hitter.
UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.: The good news is the Yankees always win when Girardi gets ejected.
UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: The pitch Alex was called out on was a hair outside but it wasn’t a terrible call.
It was Foster who called Jeter out stealing third base on July 6. Jeter said at the time that Foster told him he was out only because the throw beat him. The crew chief, John Hirschbeck, actually defended Jeter that day.
Clearly the Yankees have issues with Foster and they bubbled up today. The bottom line: Eric Hinske is now playing third base. There’s an error waiting to happen.
UPDATE, 3:08 p.m.: Nice day for Tex, 0 for 3 with a HBP. He has grounded out to the catcher and struck out twice with runners in scoring position.
Now Hinske, not A-Rod, is up.
UPDATE, 3:11 p.m.: Bases loaded for Godzilla as Hinske walks. Guthrie has lived to tell the tale so far. He has out 15 runners on base in 5.2 innings and allowed only three runs so far.
UPDATE, 3:12 p.m.: Godzilla strikes with a two-run single to right. Yankees had been 3 for 15 with RISP before that big hit.
Now Sean Henn — yes, that Sean Henn — is in to pitch for Baltimore.
UPDATE, 3:20 p.m.: Robbie Cano is just not the same hitter with men in scoring position: 35 of 168 (.208). He is hitting .361 otherwise. Obviously it’s in his head.
UPDATE, 3:40 p.m.: Nice work by CC as he allows three runs over seven innings, two that were his fault. How it’s Phil Huuuuuuuuuughes for the eighth inning and a well-rested Mo waiting for the save.
UPDATE, 3:44 p.m.: That is the fifth time in 285 career starts CC has gone at least seven innings and struck out only one batter. It last happened in 2004.
UPDATE, 3:48 p.m.: Hughes does the job. Now to Mo.
UPDATE, 3:53 p.m.: If ever there was a time for a suicide squeeze, this is it.
UPDATE, 3:56 p.m.: You’re gonna miss Matsui when he’s gone. That’s 24 homers and 81 RBI for the DH this season. Now we’ll get Bruney instead of Mo.
UPDATE, 4:13 p.m.: The Yankees have blown the game open, leading 13-3. Back with a brief recap later on.
Repost from last thread:
“What irks me is that AJ just says he threw just one bad pitch. Just “one bad pitch” does not load the bases.”
AJ is as delusional about his pitching performances as Joba is. He seemed in total denial about that inning. Like if he didn’t throw that one pitch to Roberts, the rest of the inning would have looked great.
I used to think that our biggest worry about AJ would be his health. Turns out we have to worry most about his head.
The Yankees should be able to take one game against the O’s especially with our ace on the mound today.
Also, how many looooog drives were caught on the warning track? Baltimore was smacking everything Burnett threw.
The first game was given away by Girardi and the way he managed it. I didn’t watch yesterday’s game (fortunately apparently). The lineup wasn’t one where it looked like he was looking to put out the best possible.
There are times when Girardi seems to do this for no discernible reason. He did it last season as well. Maybe its a message he is sending to the pitcher, but I just don’t get it.
Of course poor pitching from the starter is no excuse, but why make it have a potential for being worse?
Let’s go CC.
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For all those cruise control fans out there the LAA are now down only 4 games for home field with a makeup game tomm with I think Gaudian pitching and then 3 in LA next week. Perhaps Joe will adopt an attitude that we have to win these games and play a regular lineup with our best SP’s. Playing Boston 3 games after that. I know we aren’t supposed to worry about anything as it’s always in the bag according to many, but at least home field by far is not a done deal.
From last thread:
“His (Burnett’s)era is skewed by 4 or 5 bad starts.”
Simply not the case. No more than it’s skewed by 4-5 excellent starts. To wit:
1)If you take out Burnett’s four worst starts, his ERA over the other 25 starts is 3.20, but….
2)If you take out his four best starts, his ERA in the remaining 25 starts is 5.13.
3) If you take out his 4 best and 4 worst, his ERA comes in a little over 3.90.
He’s pitched to his record and statistics this year.
Jeter is 6 for his last 25… but 6 for his last 13.
Way to spin it.
Rex I agree, you usually get beat up by the faithful here for relating the facts in making an opinion, but given the uncertainty of AJ and Joba and even CC in the playoffs I’m pretty concerned about an early exit again this year.
All I can say is they better win today. Im going to the game and to be swept by this disgraceful Orioles team would be embarassing. The Yanks look like they have sleptwalked through these 2 games. CC better do what he was paid to – be a stopper today.
They lose two in a row to Baltimore and Girardi is suddenly an idiot not trying to win and the Yankees are getting bounced out of the playoffs early.
Since the Yankees are about to play several important games against the LAA, why should Girardi burn out his bullpen or unreasonably risk injuring starters in the rain against friggin’ Baltimore? First, you get to the playoffs, second you stay healthy. C’mon.
There are times when Girardi seems to do this for no discernible reason. He did it last season as well. Maybe its a message he is sending to the pitcher, but I just don’t get it.
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Double-header on Monday, Friday night game that stretched to Saturday morning,
Saturday afternoon game, not to mention today’s game, plus our previous “off” day
Monday is now a makeup with the Angels, whom they will travel to for a series (and one with Seattle as well).
You can’t expect him to trot out the “A” lineup every night, under the circumstances.
I guess people never thought the Yankees would lose another game and the red soxs win another.
By the way, isn’t the J. Geils band from Boston?
Hey, ain’t nothing but a houseparty…
It looks like we are going to see Doc Halladay again when TOR comes to town. How is it that we never get to skip that guy?
When the Yankees were 13-15 everyone here would have made a deal to have the situation that exists this morning.
This is not a perfect team and nothing that occurs will keep some from “worrying” about an early exit, AJ’s health in 2012, CC’s opt out and heaven knows what else.
Remember this is still a rather old team and periodic rest must be spread out to have this team energized for the post-season. The “A” lineup will be the exception rather than the rule as long as there is a comfort zone to utilize.
Matusz is a very nice looking lefty. Baltimore should be fun to watch if there are more like him and more Reimold’s in their future.
While it would make the AL East landscape more challgenging, it would be nice to see those people down in Baltimore actually have a reasonable team playing in that beautiful ballpark.
“It looks like we are going to see Doc Halladay again when TOR comes to town. How is it that we never get to skip that guy?”
We are in an endless cycle of life from which we seek liberation. Either that or the Jays line up their rotation so that Roy faces teams like the Yankees. I could go either way.
The past week has been a Jeter/A-Rod role reversal.
One was chasing a personal record and struggled getting there and wasn’t said to be pressing, choking or a headcase.
One had everyone in the clubhouse asked questions about him yet no one in the media called it a distraction.
One had a actress/girlfriend cheering from the expensive seats and not one sarcastic remark was made.
One ducked the media in a game he went hitless and it was treated as classy to not take away from Swisher’s moment.
It’s good to be Derek Jeter.
Why should we think that whatever a player says postgame accurately reflects what they really think? Just because AJ, or Joba for that matter, says something about one bad pitch, or whatever, does this accurately reflect what they really think, deep down inside? How many times does Jeter say he “feels fine”?
That may not be the best analogy, but I hope I’m getting my point across. All we see is the public image of the player. We fans truly have no real idea of what goes on inside, either the clubhouse or inside the player.
bodhi – agreed about Baltimore. Their lineup isn’t bad, not by a long shot, even taking that Mora may not be there next year. If their pitching comes around – Tilman, Matusz, Guthrie – they can be a real tough team to face next year.
Surprised how dead the Staten Island ballpark was last night, considering the home team was in a playoff game.
Nobody to speak of in the seats, but what a gorgeous setting for a ballpark – I could see the Statue of Liberty from my seats behind the plate. The ships silently pass by as you take in the game. Beautiful.
GB7: Angellini wasn’t forced to move much laterally at short, but he did have to charge two grounders and seamlessly made the play on both occasions. I was also impressed with his apparent knowledge of the strike zone and his patience.
The LHRP Gavin Brooks has an interesting arm – really mean looking slider and really pitches to keep the hitters off balance. I was disappointed not to see Jose Ramirez come in, but apparently he’s pitching Game 3 in the next round.
The Lowell team wasn’t very crisp defensively, but the hometown boys made the plays (except when Murton, at 1B, caught a liner and then failed to step on first for what would have been an automatic inning-ending DP – instead, he started trotting off the field, thinking it was out No. 3).
There were some great oldtimers there – old baseball guys in their 70s animatedly talking about the game – and the Yankees. It had a real old world feel to it. Difficult to stomach was the usual over-embellishing PA guy – who could not announce a batter simply. That alone could have driven me from the park.
A lineup today. Joe must really want this game
Joe from LI,
They could certainly progress and be a disturber.
It’s hard to explain, but there is something universally out of sync for the Baltimore Orioles to have such a woeful pitching staff. That seems to be correcting itself…
Off to the farmer’s market for the season’s final tomatoes…
Go Cranks! (that is affectionately intended…)
DOC comes and Joba is the pitcher.Cito will throw Doc,and any lefty into the rotation,just to be the spoiler.
There’s nothing more pathetic than the “If you just take away x number of starts his numbers look fantastic” people. Sure, if we all lived in Fantasyland we could wave our magic wands and make the unsightly numbers just disappear.
“That may not be the best analogy, but I hope I’m getting my point across. All we see is the public image of the player. We fans truly have no real idea of what goes on inside, either the clubhouse or inside the player.”
That may be true, but if the player is carefully crafting his statements in the post game press conference, why would he want to come off as being out of touch with his true performance? Why would AJ want the outside world to believe that he thinks that he only threw one bad pitch in that inning? Doesn’t make sense. Jeter lying about how he feels makes sense; he wants to play and doesn’t want to let on that he’s less than 100%. AJ’s “it was only one bad pitch” sounds crazy and is something I simply don’t understand.
AJ Burnett is a complete joke
But hey he should be in the hall of fame if you listen to people in here
It is the umps fault!!
Posada doesn’t know how to call a game!!!
AJ’s fault for pitching like a little leaguer nahhhh
For all those lineup whiners, Joe has his “A” lineup today as we do not want to get swept. Most likely he will have his “A” lineup with Angels and Sox games. Joe has his priorities right.
At least Girardi has finally woken up. That line up was a disgrace yesterday. The push is on to win 100 games but Joe treated yesterday as a giveaway game. The way this team has performed since they last won in 2000 they have no right to sleep walk through anything. They need to keep their intensity up or they will enter the playoffs flat. Im not going to stomach another one and done in the first round.
Laura, you’re right, makes no sense. All I know for sure is that some of these guys, like AJ and Joba, need to pick it up over the next month.
Ken:
I too wold like to avoid another one and done. But bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes explained it well at 10:16 a.m.
“Double-header on Monday, Friday night game that stretched to Saturday morning,
Saturday afternoon game, not to mention today’s game, plus our previous “off” day
Monday is now a makeup with the Angels, whom they will travel to for a series (and one with Seattle as well).
You can’t expect him to trot out the “A” lineup every night, under the circumstances.”
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In other words, it’s not time to panic.
Burnett is probably thinking, why does CC get all the luck?
This is kind of random, but did anyone realize that Posada has the second highest SLG% on the team behind Teixeira?
Tex- .543 SLG
Posada- .533 SLG
Arod- .521 SLG
Arod has a higher OPS because of all the walks, but Posada’s OPS is still a very impressive .892. That might be the second or third highest among catchers in baseball, behind Mauer of course. As a comparison, VMart is only slugging .479 with an .855 OPS this year.
Anyone else notice that the catcher for CC has been Posada. The General Girardi is gearing up for Game 1 of the Postseason. Let’s Go.
The Yankees just don’t seem to play well when it rains. Both of these games should have been rained out.
Joba & Burnett have the exact same problem. Pitchers throw the highest % of strikes with their fastball. Joba & Burnett both have VERY inconsistent fastball command. They both miss the target by the catcher alot, but get away with it sometimes due to their plus velocity.
Joba has better off speed stuff than Hughes but Hughes fastball command is the reason why most people thought he would be the better starter long term.
Today is not going to be easy… Guthrie has given us trouble in the past. He only allowed 2 runs when we saw him last week.
Burnett is just a very good pitcher. He has yet to learn how to pitch. And at age 32, the safe bet is that he never does.
It’s a shame. Just another guy with great stuff that doesn’t translate on game day.
*not
“but Posada’s OPS is still a very impressive .892.”
It is, but he owes a lot of that to the House that Steinbrenner Built. .643 slugging percentage and 1.035 OPS at NYS. On the road, those numbers are .425 and .754 respectively.
Al:
You’re right on Guthrie. He’s a pretty good pitcher. Passable #3 starter. Very good #4. Problem is, for the O’s is that he’s their #1. O’s get a lot more interesting if Matusz and Tillman develop as expected, moving Guthrie down to a 3/4, and they get themselves a bullpen.
Is AJ’s problem mechanics or mentality? IMO it’s both.
One gets the feeling that AJ aims the ball, that it’s not the product of a ruthlessly identical motion leading to a repeatable release point. (Mo is the ideal when it comes to that). AJ lacks discipline, and a third pitch, but having the discipline to develop and maintain better mechanics would see him gain consistency faster than a third pitch, IMO.
Do they attempt to monkey around with him in the off-season, get him to develop his changeup and repeat his delivery more consistently?
Seriously here, I don’t think A.J has any issues at all with his mentality.
But that’s just me.
Anyway…
“Joba has better off speed stuff than Hughes but Hughes fastball command is the reason why most people thought he would be the better starter long term.”
If you read Torre’s book they thought Joba would be better than Hughes.
“Seriously here, I don’t think A.J has any issues at all with his mentality.”
Well, he’s not crazy or anything like that. He does seem to struggle a little with adversity at times.
“Joba has better off speed stuff than Hughes”
I’d take Hughes’ curve over any secondary pitch Joba is throwing these days.
murphy,
The coaches in Toronto have tried to get him to implement his change-up for years. He never did.
At this point, he is what he is. Until HE decides to change and become a “pitcher”, the inconsistency and underachieving will continue to plague him.
“The Yankees just don’t seem to play well when it rains”
really bad weather tends to be an equalizer because of all the randomness it creates.
it’s clear that the yankees over the course of burnett’s contract need to think of him as a #3 pitcher and get someone else for #2. he’s just too inconsistent to count on in big games.
hughes and joba will be developing , but they might not be ready to be a #2 for a few years.
there’s no way to sugarcoat it. burnett has been a huge disappointment in 2009.
he has the playoffs to rewrite the story, but at this point who knows.
right now he doesn’t inspire confidence looking ahead to the playoffs.
Rays go quietly on 7 pitches in the 1st. Season can’t end soon enough for that lot.
“Seriously here, I don’t think A.J has any issues at all with his mentality.”
What are you basing that on? The guy pitches crappy, gives up 6 runs in one inning and thinks that he only threw one bad pitch. Sounds like he’s off his rocker to me.
Burnett’s implosion has shown us just how valuable Wang was.
A lot of people took him for granted (including the Yankees themselves probably).
“there’s no way to sugarcoat it. burnett has been a huge disappointment in 2009.
he has the playoffs to rewrite the story, but at this point who knows.
right now he doesn’t inspire confidence looking ahead to the playoffs.”
Agree 100%. If we lose that 1st game (which is entirely possible considering how good Verlander is), there will be a lot of anxious moments leading up to game 2.
randy I – at the risk of setting you off yet again, I will say that Wang was supposed to be that number 2 starter, and AJ the no. 3. And while he has disappointed some of us, saying he has been hugely disappointing is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.
so being ‘off his rocker’ explains AJ’s inability to hit the glove consistently with his fast ball? When he does hit the glove with consistency he’s close to unhittable, has anyone noticed that?
And for 55 years I’ve thought that pitching was mechanics and command.
Thanks for the clarification, it’s most appreciated…
Feels like so long ago we were in ST and giddy at the prospect of having 4 #1-type starters in CC, AJ, Wang, and Joba. Plus Andy as the best #5 in the league and a big game pitcher.
Now we only have 2 reliable starters.
Why does Melky continue to get so much playing time?
We need to see what Gardner has.
You are all completely delusional what it means to “pitch well”. Some times guys, who happen to be professional HITTERS, hit good pitches too you know. A base-runner (or 3) is not the end all be all of bad pitching.
“And for 55 years I’ve thought that pitching was mechanics and command.
Thanks for the clarification, it’s most appreciated…”
At his best he’s got great stuff, but when a grown man cannot be more consistent across an entire season and seems to lose his cool frequently and be unable to limit the damage in bad innings, what category do you assign the problem to?
Is a lack of discipline or the desire to get better and more consistent a mental or physical issue?
Or do you think being close to unhittable now and then is all anyone should ask for?
“You are all completely delusional what it means to “pitch well”. Some times guys, who happen to be professional HITTERS, hit good pitches too you know. A base-runner (or 3) is not the end all be all of bad pitching.”
Nobody is talking about one inning in one game. AJ won’t work on a third pitch, he loses his cool and he could be a lot more consistent. Attitude and discipline are not mechanics or good hitting.
When a guy with such electric stuff (voted best in the league on numerous occasions) is SO inconsistent and has been inconsistent for over 10 years and is 32… how can it NOT be mental?
Are we done with the imaginary issue from some posters that AJ’s problem was tied to Posada?
I was really for AJ’s signing, and even though he’s struggled I’m not going to call him a bust.
I try (it’s difficult sometimes) to support all the players in pinstripes.
I refuse to believe that AJ forgot how to pitch. I don’t think he’s a lost cause. He’s caused us to lose some games, but he’s kept us in others. And he was definitely valuable in April when we didn’t know what the heck was going on with Wang.
Anyway, a win today would go a long way. Go Yankees.
Joe from Long Island-
i’ve calmed down with wang because i figure that it’s over him as a yankee . burnett is the #2 guy now and he ‘s getting 82.5 million for 5 years.
i’d say by anyone’s figuring that’s a lot of money for a league average pitcher.
A.J. has not pitched awful Neither his season or his postseason are over. Let’s wait and see.
I know A.J. allowed 6 runs yesterday, but we saw good signs in at least five innings. And in the game that was most like a playoff atmosphere, the 15 inning marathon, A.J. pitched well.
Just saying.
the Hall of Fame version of AJ is Nolan Ryan. He had better stuff (probably the best I’ve ever seen when he was on) but, with a career won-loss percentage of about .525, he was never able to consistently harness his command for an entire year. If you look at his post season stats, at age 32-33, with the Astros, he was awful in one year against the Phils and great the next year against the Dodgers.
I’m NOT saying AJ is as good as Ryan but he’s the same kind of pitcher-streaky and unhittable when good, way too many walks and hittable when not good.
If AJ fixes whatever problems he’s having before the end of the season he could be lights out in the postseason, just look back to the way he pitched against the Sox at Yankees Stadium in early August. If he’s still struggling, he will have to figure out a way to minimize the damage (something he’s not good at and a place where Andy shines) and keep the Yankees in the game. We won’t know until the game he pitches, there is no way of telling before that just like every other pitcher in MLB. Even Whitey Ford had some bad games in the World Series, most noticeably game 1 of the 1963 series when Frank Howard hit one of the monuments in the 2nd inning and the Dodgers knocked him out.
for whatever reason i’m watching the 2004 world series film on mlb network and trot nixon just described that year’s red sox team as “loosy goosy”… interesting choice of words haha
MG – good point.
“I’d take Hughes’ curve over any secondary pitch Joba is throwing these days”
Joba’s slider is better than Hughes Curve, and his Curve is about equal with Hughes new cutter. Joba’s problem right now is that he has better command of his slider than his fastball so he’s using it way too much, which makes it less effective.
That being said, even when Joba was 94-98 mph instead of 92-96 this year, a 2006 Hughes 92-95 fastball was still better. Hughes has better command of his fastball, more movement and gets a ton more swing and misses with it.
Yankees team ERA currently ranks 16 out of 30 teams.
But who cares, right? Offense wins in October.
I guess mentioning that Laptops is no-hitting the Rays thru 3 on a Yankees blog won’t jinx him, huh?
Anyway, he’s no-hitting the Rays through 3.
But Garza’s throwing up zeroes as well.
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MG, my comment about AJ being “off his rocker” is not in reference to his ability to throw strikes. It’s about his ability to evaluate his own performance. I mean really, how could he possibly think that his performance in the 2nd inning can all be traced to the ball to Roberts? How did those other 3 guys get on base? The entire inning was a dud, not just the Grand Slam to Roberts.
Chris,
Yep. Who cares if AJ implodes in October? The offense is there to pick him up.
“I’m NOT saying AJ is as good as Ryan but he’s the same kind of pitcher-streaky and unhittable when good, way too many walks and hittable when not good.”
When any pitcher issues too many walks and hits he’s not having a good outing, IMO. The issues are why, how frequently does it happen and how correctable is it.
To me, limiting damage is a huge issue. After watching him for a nearly full season, it’s not just something AJ has to work on – it’s a major flaw in his game. It separates not just the AJ Burnetts from the Nolan Ryans of the world, it separates most minor league starters from most major league starters.
Everybody is going to have a bad game or inning. But when it comes down to pitching for the money in the post season, limiting the damage – stopping the bleeding – may be the most important tool every post season pitcher should have. As Michael Kay said about AJ’s last outing, giving up 6 runs in the second inning to the Tigers in the playoffs means losing that game.
Less pies, more wins AJ
If you pitch like this in October, people will be throwing pies at you lol
leiter talked about it yesterday. burnett has a side to side or rotational delivery. he spins in other words. at the same time he coming over the top with his arm. contrast it with mo. his body unleasehes towards the plate and he comes over the top. he doesn’t have the spinning going on that creates different sideways release points.
mo can miss up and down with a fastball if he releases early or late , but he doesn’t miss sideways.
if burnett releases early in his body rotation the ball goes sideways towards a right handed hitter. if he releases late it goes sideways towards a lefty hitter.
burnett has to have a very precise release point to have command. he’s who he is with the spinning delivery at this point . i don’t see it changing.
“Yep. Who cares if AJ implodes in October? The offense is there to pick him up.”
Really? You do realize that in the playoffs, you are going to be facing the other team’s best pitchers, right? Sometimes, offense is hard to come by. AJ can’t be giving up 6 runs in a playoff game and assume that the Yankees can come back.
This guy needs a good October even more than A-Rod does. I’d hate to be in his shoes if he pitches like he did yesterday, in the ALDS. For his sake and the teams, he needs to perform well.
Congrats to Buchholtz! His 2nd no hitter of his career.
WOW!
Not yet a full season into a 5-year deal, it would be silly to call AJ a bust. It would be silly to even call this season a bust for him — he hasn’t lived up to anyone’s (optimistic) expectations thus far but he’s still been an overall positive contributor, at least in my assessment. It’s all going to come down to what he does in October anyway.
m, I’m not sure what “I refuse to believe that AJ forgot how to pitch” is about in this case, isn’t AJ basically performing to the back of his baseball card? The notion that the 2nd-half-of-2008 AJ was the one we were getting was a nice one, and hopefully that dream will more or less come true. But when a pitcher performs as he’s always performed and he’s 32 years old, it’s not a question of forgetting how to pitch, is it?
Pitchers in the AL with over 140 innings…
Burnett has the 28th lowest whip, 24th lowest era & 6th highest K/9 rate.
He’s pitching like a bad #2 or a good #3. He’s been disappointing, but the alternative was Lowe getting blasted in the AL or Wang killing them when he went down with no AJ.
The funny think is if Burnett signed with Atlanta he would probably have a low 3 era with a k/9 rate over 9, and everyone would be bashing the Yankees for not signing him for the extra 2.5M
Nick,
Someone made a comment earlier to that effect. I had no thoughts on it either way until I saw it.
randy l.
Good observation about the different styles of Mo and AJ and the consequences of a missed release point to either. But I still think AJ can tighten it up, or at least should try mightily to do so.
That’s one guy who needs to raise his game and who knows maybe he will.
Dodgers vs. Red Sox / Tigers in World Series. Buy your tickets now.
Meaning, too, that AJ pitched well in April and in that good 10 game stretch. So, he can’t have forgotten how to pitch in such a short time. So yes, he’s inconsistent, but from some of the talk here they think he has no idea of how to pitch.
good job on the Jinxing
Laura,
I was mocking those who think AJ’s implosions are no big deal and are making excuses for him and think we can pick him up after his “one bad inning” when we’re facing good pitching as well.
Ok, then I will say, having not seen the original comment, that no, duh, AJ has not forgotten how to pictch. It does appear, however, that he sometimes forgets how to think.
Lets go Yankees! Prevent the sweeeeeep!
Nick in SF in San Mateo:
No, you’re right. AJ certainly hasn’t forgotten how to pitch. His aggregate season numbers are what they are and I’m not crying fraud. But seeing him for a whole season it’s very tempting to say what he’s missing from his game and what things he should improve.
I’m not saying he forgot how to pitch, just maybe that he’s stopped learning how to improve.
Range
Leiter with the Fraudian slip about Markakis being a Yankee. Only in my dreams.
1-2-3 for cc. Why did cashman sign this guy??
“Laura,
I was mocking those who think AJ’s implosions are no big deal and are making excuses for him and think we can pick him up after his “one bad inning” when we’re facing good pitching as well.”
Oh, okay.
Poor Nicky, hope his struggles are over after the game.
He’s usually a Yankee killer, but I guess he’s letting Brian Roberts wear the cape for a while.
Laura, I have a simple solution for your concerns-don’t pay attention to what the players say after the game, draw your conclusions from their performance. AJ wasn’t good yesterday, what difference does it make what he said?
murphydog, my point is that Nolan Ryan wasn’t always good at minimizing damage either, just go look at the game logs for him, particularly when he reached 30 years old. Walks will really hurt a pitcher, we all know it, and Ryan would lose the plate sometimes and then have to come in with something less than his best. The result was often a bunch of runs scoring. AJ has very similar problems.
9 pitches for CC. Nice and efficient.
9 pitches to retire the side.Go CC with your bad self!
What a charmed life Jeter leads.
Good start
murphydog-
burnett could work on staying closed more. he’d lose some of the tailing action he gets on the fastball, but it might tighten up the release point.
it’s hard for a 32 year old to do that though. he’s used to spinning open. i’m just not very optimistic about aj learning how to do something new at this point.
he doesn’t strike me as a guy who learns new stuff easily.
he’ll still be lights out sometimes . i’m fine with him as a #3, but i’d have liked the yankees to have gotten more for tying up 82.5 million.
“AJ wasn’t good yesterday, what difference does it make what he said?”
Because if I guy doesn’t know when he stinks, how is he going to fix his problems? In all honesty, I think that AJ plays it cool during his interviews. He knows that he stunk up the joint in that inning. Joba, on the other hand, I’m not so sure about. I truly believe that he thinks that he’s pitching well lately. His post game interviews are downright scary.
MG: I don’t discount anything you said about Nolan Ryan, but I would like to add something since you referenced his careen W/L numbers. He played on some decent teams but he also played on a bunch of pretty bad teams as well and, if I recall correctly, he lost a good number of low-scoring games in his time.
Take Ryan’s exact level of performance in some of those years and put him on a better team and his record would surely improve.
I can remember in the White Sox series at the end of July CC got pounded early and there were tons of posts about CC ‘not being an Ace’. I wonder what happened to all of them because he is the epitome of an ‘Ace’. He takes the ball all the time, goes deep into games, can dominate the other team when he is at his best, and never gives in.
With Matusz & Tillman, plus Guthrie as a #3. If the Birds can sign a Lackey this off season or Lee/Halladay next off season, they could be a contender.
A-Rod!!!!!
Nice piece of hitting there by Alex.
Wow that was a rocket. Good job Alex
Nice job there, Clutch Rod!
Typical Arod, getting the hit when no one even knows if we need it or not.
Matsui killed that rally. Gotta get the ball past the pitcher.
Terrible at bats by Posada and Sui
People here get too worked up over postgame interviews.
Burnett has said a few times this season that he flat out stunk and nobody cared that he “manned up.” They only cared that he didn’t pitch well.
Players usually don’t get bonus points from the fans for being blunt when they don’t perform.
Some fans really need to get over themselves.
Arod is so unclutch….i’m tired of him!
Could been better. Matsui trying to yank first pitch sinker was a poor AB, but I’ll take one run an inning and take my chances.
Why are some of you apoplectic about AJ and his interviews. This isn’t a young guy like Kennedy or Joba in denial. It’s an older guy telling the story he wants to tell. His last five innings were good and if wants to focus on that in the post game who the hell cares? He’s not testifying under oath for cryin’ out loud.
Nice of Posada to yell out the f-word for all the kids at home to hear.
BTW, A-Rod is seriously my pick for team MVP.
Gutherie 20 pitches 1 run.
“With Matusz & Tillman, plus Guthrie as a #3. If the Birds can sign a Lackey this off season or Lee/Halladay next off season, they could be a contender”
yea but their not going to sign those pitchers…
1st and 3rd I see a sacfly coming.
what in the world is going on? AJ has passed the disease to cc.
SF Chronicle baseball writer muses on what might have been had Jeter been drafted by the Giants and also discusses role of Brian Sabean in the Yanks’ decision to pick our Captain:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....19LMEM.DTL
“With Matusz & Tillman, plus Guthrie as a #3. If the Birds can sign a Lackey this off season or Lee/Halladay next off season, they could be a contender”
Yeah if only it were that easy. No big free agent is going to sign there and their bullpen is still a joke. O’s are screwed as long as that loser Angelos runs the team.
How many times have the O’s gotten bloopers, infield hits, and ran out a possible DP in this series? It seems like they’re just finding ways to get on base.
At least CC didn’t cave and cough up a grand slam like some other scrubs.
uh – 9 pitch inning to this?
the last fastball by CC was the first one that popped Jorge’s glove so far, he’ll be fine.
This is the exact scenario AJ had loaded bases,no outs and the rus started.2 runs so far.
i’m sure now the idiots who were calling CC a bust not long ago will crawl out from whatever rock they’ve been hiding under….
Could have been worse
A sweep would really be embarrassing. This team does know this thing isn’t clinched yet, right? The starters better wake up. Chad Moeller, Justin Turner, Jeff Fiorentino??? This is the same Orioles team that got STOMPED by Boston the last two weeks. WAKE UP!
Midtown Mike
September 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
A sweep would really be embarrassing. This team does know this thing isn’t clinched yet, right? The starters better wake up. Chad Moeller, Justin Turner, Jeff Fiorentino??? This is the same Orioles team that got STOMPED by Boston the last two weeks. WAKE UP!
The bridgejumpers are coming out already?
Damon-ator,
Why be such a hater? Nobody’s calling anybody anything except you. And CC gave up a GS in a playoff game does that make him a scrub?
we can only hope some of the bridge jumpers slip and actually take the plunge…
19 pitches,2 runs,bad anyway you slice it CC.
Sawx Rays 0-0 top of 6th
“A sweep would really be embarrassing. This team does know this thing isn’t clinched yet, right? The starters better wake up. Chad Moeller, Justin Turner, Jeff Fiorentino??? This is the same Orioles team that got STOMPED by Boston the last two weeks. WAKE UP!”
maybe you should become a sox fan since they stomp the o’s
Cano swung at the first pitch again!!!!!
Oh, base hit…
Never mind.
You people are ridiculous. This team is sleep-walking right now. But if a REAL fan dare call out his team for not performing up to their capabilities, he/she is a bridge-jumper. More like a realist and a concerned-fan. Sorry, but I don’t wear rose-colored glasses. Right now, this team is playing like garbage. Plain and simple.
“You people are ridiculous. This team is sleep-walking right now. But if a REAL fan dare call out his team for not performing up to their capabilities, he/she is a bridge-jumper. More like a realist and a concerned-fan. Sorry, but I don’t wear rose-colored glasses. Right now, this team is playing like garbage. Plain and simple.”
in case you dont know..teams usually lose some games…the yankees have lost 2 straight, big deal…..your not a realist, your a moron
I’m watching the 2003 world series highlights on MLB network and I’m still pissed that the Yankees didn’t win that World Series.
You’re ace gives up 2 runs after his offense gives him the lead. And then the offense turns around and throws up a 9 pitch inning. Oops, sorry. I’m not allowed to point out when this team isn’t playing well.
Midtown Mike, you have no clue. They had just swept the Rays and have played two bad games, big deal. If it goes for another week then it’s a potential issue, right now it’s just baseball. The Angels lost yesterday, the Cards have lost 2 in a row, do you think every team wins all of its games?
To be fair, the Red Sox were actually fighting for something when they faced the Orioles. The Yankees still haven’t wrapped up the division or HFA, but they’re in a lot better position than what the Red Sox were/are in. For me, I’ll be a lot interested to see how this team looks against the Red Sox and especially the Angels when they play them in Anaheim.
1 2 3 and out,no urgency to answer the runs scored on CC.
Yankees have to be Close to the lead in double plays.
“in case you dont know..teams usually lose some games…the yankees have lost 2 straight, big deal…..your not a realist, your a moron”
Good teams don’t get swept at home by a team that quit 3 months ago. Not with your top three starters going. A loss today and Girardi has to hold a closed-door meeting. Torre did it in 98, there’s nothing wrong with re-gaining focus. This team seems to have lost that.
In 1998, the New York Yankees went 16-11 in September.
Relax.
I don’t mind losing. But not at home to one of the worst teams in baseball. There is no focus these last three days. Horrible pitching, lazy at bats, and no real fight at all.
I know, Gardner would have not only caught that ball but had time to eat a hot dog while he was waiting for it to come down.
lol at closed door meeting. cause those always magically make teams start winning games right?
get a grip.
“In 1998, the New York Yankees went 16-11 in September.
Relax.”
Perhaps all the 1998 comparisons to this team were premature. Can we calm down with those comparisons? Until this team wins 11 games in October, they don’t belong in the same breath as that team.
Boston winning.
who cares about Boston at this point. get a grip. they don’t matter right now.
can a blogger post from the top deck of the GW Bridge? I have the feeling Midtown Mike is up there right now…
Seems like the Yankees are trying to make ROY voting tough on the writers. First they made Beckham look like a superstar in Chicago, then they got shut down by Neimann, and now they’re getting lit up by Reimold.
“they don’t matter right now.”
Ummm, yes they do. The division is not over yet. Were you alive in 2004?
Can we perhaps calm down with the doom and gloom too?
Are you in Midtown of Panicsville?
someone call 9-1-1, maybe they can save this guy.
Midtown Mike
Shut up. In 2004 we made the damn playoffs. No one cares about losing this game. Go complain to your mom about the Yankees.
Offense should put together better at bats second time through. CC needs to keep it at 2. He doesn’t look very good right now.
Midtown Mike
September 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
“they don’t matter right now.”
Ummm, yes they do. The division is not over yet. Were you alive in 2004?
yes i was alive in 2004, obviously that’s when you were born since you have a pre-2004 Red Sox fan mentality.
Ummm, yes they do. The division is not over yet. Were you alive in 2004?
———
Ummmmm, no they don’t.
What happened in 2004 had nothing to do with the pennant race.
The Yanks aren’t giving up this lead and the Red Sox can’t win consistently away from Fenway.
-Midtown Mike
They were the worst team Friday,behind the Nats,as of today because the Yankees gave up 2 they are tied with the Nationals.
Sawx-1 Rays-0 bot 6th
“Ummm, yes they do. The division is not over yet.”
Stop being so paranoid. If you really think the Red Sox are going to win the division, then I guess we should start printing out playoff tickets for the White Sox, Twins, Rangers, Marlins, Braves, and Rockies since those teams are all closer to first place than the Sox are.
“They were the worst team Friday,behind the Nats,as of today because the Yankees gave up 2 they are tied with the Nationals.”
LOL. Who would’ve thought that this team would lose a series to the Nationals AND perhaps get swept by the only team as bad as Washington? Baseball is…well, baseball.
‘Midtown Mike’ must be RDM or Matt back for another string of doomsday posts…
11 pitch inning,but s on base,scary inning.
“What happened in 2004 had nothing to do with the pennant race.”
2004? Did something happen in 2004? I don’t remember. I must have blocked it out.
well, the jets look like the jets today in Houston.
this just in, Girardi held an in between innings players only meeting and told them to wake up. When asked why, he said ‘I needed to save Midtown Mike’s life’.
9 hits to reach 200 and just 7 hits of Suzuki’s lead.
WOW…last I checked the Eagles score, they were down 7-0. Just minutes later it’s 17-7 Eagles. Damn, come on Carolina!
How did Jeter not score?
Tex is an automatic out lately,sacfly Joe.
Second time today a grounder back to the pitcher with a guy on third. Ugh.
Come on, Godzilla. Make him pay for pitching around Clutch Rod to get to you!
Both times on the first pitch! Poor AB for two typically clutch guys.And another crappy one for Matsui.
Ugh!
Oh, no…Old North Church Mike is going crazy. Tampa just tied the game.
This is frustrating. Time to watch football for a little while and flip back to baseball every now and then. Nothing better then flipping back to the game and seeing a tie game and/or lead! lol…love when that happens!
this team has been flat since jeter got record hit friday night
Let’s finish strong and clinch this thing!
How do you have a guy on 3rd 1 out,and you don’t even up the score for you pitcher,with a sacfly,?Tex isn’t hitting anyway.
TB-1 Sawx-1
GreenBeret7
September 13th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Oh, no…Old North Church Mike is going crazy. Tampa just tied the game.
Prolly shouldn’t joke with that GreenBeret – cause I think Mike finally jumped off that bridge, hasn’t posted in awhile and I’m worried.
I’m sick of these infield singles
TD Jets on the bomb by Sanchez. Old Mangini would have just called for a rush in that situation cause he’s got no stones.
ok no more infield hits for the O’s…
This reminds me of… a whole bunch of other games in which the Yanks trailed by a run or two early and ended up winning comfortably. Such as… the game I saw CC pitch in Oakland. Can it happen again???????
Only time will tell.
I’ve never seen a team get so many hits on what look like routine groundballs.
Wow, I thought that was going to be another infield single.
Orioles get on base and it’s a threat of them scoring.
Yankees get on bat,and it’s outs,go figure.
The Turner, Moeller, Fiorentino bottom 3 has killed us all series. LOL – how do you figure that happens? Amazing.
OMG DAMON
Omg, seriously?
Man this team is looking flat
Stupid mistakes! Ack!
Jesus, Damon…that was brutal.
Damon takes the cake on that one!
knoblauch
Damon pulls a Milton Bradley.
Damon, you owe us a bomb now.
midtown mike is gonna love that one
Dear Yankees,
You haven’t won the division yet.
Love,
Angel
I hope Erica didn’t see her PB cost us a run.
Well at least they are slumping now instead of the playoffs.
How many times have we seen this team have a great Sept. and bad Oct. ?
That has got to be called an error. NYY has games where they make errors, don’t hit or don’t pitch, but, that’s something you don’t see from the vets.
Eeek. This is looking absolutely horrible. I need to take my own advice and watch some football already!
OY VEY!!!!
Matsui and Damon are not making good cases for next season today.
what’d damon do?
They need to wake up out there
Don’t give Jeter a hall pass either. He caught Damon’s throw and relaxed with no intention of throwing home.
Definitely heading toward a team meeting after this one
How the HECK is that scored an earned run on CC? They better change that scoring decision because we could have been fielding behind Sabathia and he wouldn’t have given up a run that inning.
That happens at least four times a year around baseball, but, still inexcusable.
Damon should be benched for the rest of the game…send a message to the rest of the team…Charlie Manuel benched Rollins for arriving late to a game…Joe Maddon benches BJ Upton when he doesn’t hustle.
Sit Damon down Girardi.
How many multi-hit games does Robbie have this season?
16 pitches 1 sacfly and a run.Small ball is killing the Yankees.
what are you showing bunt with Melky up next fool?
Not sure why Swisher would try bunting, there. silly. That was a Swisher silly.
Okay, we’ve got to plate some of these guys. Quality at bats, people!!!!
Sac fly Melky, c’mon I’m setting the bar low here.
I am still incredibly confused on how Damon didn’t get an error there.
How is that different from making an erratic throw to third base, allowing the runner to head home?
no first pitch hacks either!
Right, let’s do something with bases loaded no outs please Yankee players.
“Matsui and Damon are not making good cases for next season today.”
Aww, thats a bit harsh, lol. It was one boneheaded play in an otherwise good season for Damon.
nice baby
I’ll take that! Way to pick Damon up, guys!
the melk is fresh!
nice on melky!…not pretty but effective
It would have been an “error” if he threw it into the stands. Failing to do anything is not an “error” under scoring rules. One of many reasons many of us believe there should be more discretion given to official scorers to penalize mental errors like Damon’s and team errors when three guys let a pop up fall between them.
Great piece of hitting by Melky
Melky
I should write memos to the Yankees more often, lol.
Nice job, Melky! Last year he would have hit a weak ground ball with that pitch.
Ok, back in this one. Why are we bunting, Derek? You’ve got a buy on the ropes and you give a free out? Please swing away (and don’t hit into a DP)!
I heart Melky
Melky has an optimal at bat.
once again, i like bunting but not in that spot with a lefty up next. c’mon use yr brain!
dude is 2-2 and he’s bunting??? What is THAT
Mkay thinks its sooooo easy to hit a homer
I, gasp, agree with Michael Kay.
Kay is wrong. Jeter is trying to move the runners over.
“Kay is wrong. Jeter is trying to move the runners over.”
I don’t think he is wrong there. You have an MVP candidate up with a .332 average and a pitcher who has been racked around this inning. You don’t give away an out this early in the game. Just my opinion.
“Mkay thinks its sooooo easy to hit a homer”
It is. Didn’t you hear? The new Yankee stadium is a bandbox.
Girardi’s game management could cost the Yanks a WS title.
how anyone can question any decision made by Derek Jeter in a baseball game is beyond me.
“I don’t think he is wrong there. You have an MVP candidate up with a .332 average and a pitcher who has been racked around this inning. You don’t give away an out this early in the game. Just my opinion.”
No, that’s not what I meant. Kay said that Jeter was bunting for a base hit. I think that Jeter was bunting in an attempt to move the runners over. I don’t mind him bunting there because Jeter has been known to hit into a DP every now and then. Not that he’s Captain DP or anything.
Damon walks, kinda anticlimatic there.
man, Tex…
LOLOLOL What was that Guthrie???
We are incredibly due for a grandslam. 200 something homeruns and only 1 grandslam all season, which was back in April. None have been hit at Yankee Stadium this year (correct me if I’m wrong).
Teix is getting really bad hacks at Guthrie, I wonder if he has problems with him all the time.
We just got a new TV yesterday. Who knew standard def would look so bad on a really good high def tv. It’s disconcerting.
Guthrie walked Damon who isn’t hitting to get to another non hitter so far, in this game.
Tex getting booed
and small ball gives the Sox the lead
What the hell is wrong with Tex this game? Good grief!
Damn. We have been really bad at getting that runner in this series.
Sorry to agree with the man with the head, but I don’t like giving up outs in the fourth inning. Especially with a .332 hitter. It’s passing the buck.
Boy has Tex had three horrible at bats
We could easily be winning this game 6-2.
Tex needs a day of rest
Haha, was that an intimidation charge at Swisher by Guthrie?
Arod is probably kicking himself, that last pitch was a hanging slider away that he knows he should have crushed.
Sorry, Laura. I misinterpreted your post. I understand now and I agree with you.
Time for CC to go into lock down mode for 3-4 more innings.
How bad is TB? Garza started the 8th inning having thrown over 100 pitches, and Madden left him in long enough to give up 3 extra base hits because their bullpen is so bad.
Outside. Terrible.
Sawx-3 TB-1 Bottom 8TH
“Sorry to agree with the man with the head, but I don’t like giving up outs in the fourth inning. Especially with a .332 hitter. It’s passing the buck.”
I call it the dog and cat scenario. Some people like cats; some people like dogs. Some people think sacrifices are appropriate early in a game (even with a good hitter at the plate). Some think that it’s a cardinal sin to give away an out early in the game. It’s a matter of personal preference.
that definitly wasnt strike 3 to arod…
In what reality was that last pitch to Alex in the strike zone?
that was a strike?
squandered opportunities usually come back to haunt you.
that pitch looked 6″ outside to me.
ARod had a legitimate beef with that last pitch.
“UPDATE, 2:22 p.m.: 3-3 in the fourth inning at home with no outs and two on and Jeter wants to bunt. By the way, Derek, YOU HAVE THE MOST HITS IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE.
I just don’t get it. I just don’t. It makes no sense. ”
It made sense to Derek, Pete. I guess in the end, that’s all that matters.
I hate cats
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....v_size=500
Dont know how to link but thats no strike
“In what reality was that last pitch to Alex in the strike zone?”
In the alternate reality that exists on the TV show Fringe, which returns this Thursday on FOX by the way.
Horrible call.
this has been a strange game but if CC can get some quick outs the Yankees will probably be in the lead soon, it just has that feeling. Guthrie has really struggled but eventually the Yankees will score some runs in bunches.
“I hate cats”
How can you hate cats? They are so cuddly and cute. Well, some of them are. There are some nasty cats out there. But you can say that about dogs as well.
Yeah but you can train a dog. Cats train their owners. Not the way it’s supposed to be.
Rishi
September 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
and small ball gives the Sox the lead
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It was only small ball because Pedroia hit it.
“this has been a strange game ”
It really has, MG. I actually had to look up at the scoreboard to see what inning it was…it felt like it was middle to late innings. We’ve got a long way to go here…
CC has no strikeouts today…weird.
This is one of the very few times that I have seen the Yankees be able to keep Markakis in check over a three game series. Maybe they’re learning how to pitch to him. 2-13 with two RBI.
“CC has no strikeouts today…weird.”
It almost feels like one of CC’s April-May starts, doesn’t it? He isn’t quite there today, but he still seems somewhat in control. Hopefully he battles into the 7th or 8th.
Wow. Go Girardi go!
This is a ploy to get the team fired up. He did this once before and they went on a tear afterwards.
lol what was that about?
Gonna rewind so I can watch again
Girardi really lost it there. It must be an interesting conversation because he doesn’t curse. ‘Ump, what do you mean, that was a strike, that pitch was at least 6″ outside, how can you miss it, you visually impaired person.”
Yikes.. action all around.
He had a legitimate argument with that last pitch. It was close, but it was still off the plate.
GreenBeret7
September 13th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Rishi
September 13th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
and small ball gives the Sox the lead
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It was only small ball because Pedroia hit it.
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Now Matsui gets a hit? A little late there, Godzilla.
If Rodriguez didn’t get tossed out, Foster knows that he screwed up…AGAIN.
That ball was off the plate.
Girardi didn’t plan it, he was pissed because Arod got run…
When you have no command you can’t set hitters up. This is one of those guts and guile games for the big fella
I’m sure A-Rod made up for Girardi’s lack of cursing, MG. In fact, it looked pretty certain that he did, if my lipreading skills were accurate, lol.
The umpiring has been horrendous this whole year. MLB had better do something about this crap. It is wrong when poor calls can lead to changing the results of the game.
I think everyone should begin a writing campaign about this to the commissioner.
Foster has to be in the Top 5 of worst Umps in the majors.
That was a ball but it was too close to not swing.
Foster was the one that made the call at third on Jeter’s stolen base attempt this year.
whoa – a-rod ejected, too?
Was foster the guy that screwed us earlier this year?
“Girardi didn’t plan it, he was pissed because Arod got run…’
I wrote that before I saw the A-Rod stuff. Still, I think it will help the team get fired up.
The pitch wasn’t a strike, but it wasn’t that bad either. I’m sure Alex went off in part because the guy has not been calling pitches off the outside corner the whole game and all of a sudden he expands the zone wiht bases loaded and two out.
Yeah, he got ejected first I think, Rishi.
Joe G dropped the A word. A-Rod dropped a couple F bombs.
“Was foster the guy that screwed us earlier this year?”
Yeah, he’s the guy that thinks that the guy manning the base doesn’t actually have to tag you for you to be out. As long as the ball beats you to the bag, that’s all that matters.
Leiter and Flash always defend the umpires. I’m sorry but we all see the calls this year, and it isn’t good. Little League umpires do a better job than these smucks do.
thanks, Angel – trying to work so I don’t have the TV on and am following by gameday/you all…
might be time to actually watch the game, instead
Laura, I’m not picking on you, I hadn’t read your post about the ejection possibly being on purpose. Without Arod being tossed I would probably think that also.
Two more horrible at bats with a RISP. Offense needs an explosion to get off this terrible streak.
“The pitch wasn’t a strike, but it wasn’t that bad either. I’m sure Alex went off in part because the guy has not been calling pitches off the outside corner the whole game and all of a sudden he expands the zone wiht bases loaded and two out.”
He hasn’t been giving that pitch to CC all day.
How does Marty Foster still have a job?
Now batting clean up for the Yankees – JERRY HAIRSTON
foster’s been waiting a long time for his chance
“He hasn’t been giving that pitch to CC all day.”
Think that was Arod’s beef. He hadn’t been giving that pitch to anybody all day.
“Laura, I’m not picking on you, I hadn’t read your post about the ejection possibly being on purpose.”
Thanks. I enjoy this place much more when people don’t pick on me.
nevermind Hairston – HINKSE AT THIRD? OH BOY!
there is something more here. I’ve never seen Joe go that nuts, and that wasn’t calculated. (unlike Atlanta).
I think Pena wrote Hinske on the lineup card.
Laura — exactly on the strike zone. CC hasn’t gotten a call on the outside corner to a RH hitter all day.
Strange doings.. but tied at home entering the sixth with a well rested bullpen should be a win
Oh, they put Hinske in.
Hinske should replace Tex who isn’t hitting,Arod is needed.
The Orioles broadcast had it knee high on the corner. Jim Palmer the HOF apologist said the pitch cam doesn’t lie
I flipped around during the commercial, and when I got back they were dragging A-Rod into the dugout. YES didn’t replay much of the argument, but did I see Girardi toss the umpire after he got run?
“Hinske should replace Tex who isn’t hitting,Arod is needed.”
That may be true, but since Tex didn’t get thrown out of the game, there’s not much we can do about that.
Laura
September 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
“Laura, I’m not picking on you, I hadn’t read your post about the ejection possibly being on purpose.”
Thanks. I enjoy this place much more when people don’t pick on me.
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I would never pick on a real fan…
all of a sudden CC is throwing 95 with some command, that’s why he’s an Ace.
Atlanta’s dropping the hammer on Carpenter (no pun intended). 6 earned runs in 3 innings.
Can we please see Chris Ray pitch in this game? PRETTY PLEASE?!
Justin Turner?
I wonder if the Tampon Bay Rays are tanking it now in order to improve their draft picks.
CC at 92 pitches. We need some runs!
Well I see the 2 out runs are contagious.
Chris Carpenter(Ace of the Cards,) just allowed 6 runs to score on 2 outs.
The Braves are 7 back,and came into STL,and took the first 2 games from the Cards.The Cards are trying,like the Yankees to avoid the sweep. 6-0 Braves.
“Atlanta’s dropping the hammer on Carpenter (no pun intended). 6 earned runs in 3 innings.”
Was just watching that. Sort of odd. Carpenter retired 8 of the 1st 9 he faced, then with 2 outs in the 3rd, allowed the next 7 guys to reach.
Nice.
Donnie – Will Meet Melvin Mora Under the O’Neill Banner
September 13th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
How does Marty Foster still have a job?
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Aren’t you the idiot who tried to demean the baseball knowledge of the women who regularly post here?
The erudite ladies here, my mother, my grandmother, and my girlfriend, not to mention my aunt, who was one of the first women admitted to NYU Law, could run circles around your sorry, baseball-clueless butt.
You’re a disgrace and a bigot.
Go somewhere else – doubt you’ll get any good ‘ole boy back slaps from this enlightened crew. Certainly not from me, jackass.
Um, does Jeter know that he’s already broken the record?
Odd game for Sabathia. 6 innings, 3 walks, 0 strikeouts.
aside from the 0-12 “mental” skid, is Jete picking up right where he left off in August?
ATONE DAMON!
I’m guessing Damon would like to make up for that play in the 4th.
so now Tex is going to have to actually do something
i like
good time to use Duncan to pinch hit for Teix, he hasn’t hit today.
OK Tex… third straight AB with a runner on 3rd and less than two outs!
“Um, does Jeter know that he’s already broken the record?”
That’s what I was thinking. He’s acting like he’s still chasing the record. Good for him. Keep the hits coming, I say!
that change up has been owning Tex all day, c’mon
Oh good god
The boos are getting louder
# Laura September 13th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
“Um, does Jeter know that he’s already broken the record?”
That’s what I was thinking. He’s acting like he’s still chasing the record. Good for him. Keep the hits coming, I say!
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Actually, hes acting like he was before chasing the record, which is good for us!
Man, whats up with Tex today?
Tex has been awful today. And now there’s no Arod behind him.
It’s official – Tex has trouble hitting the change-up.
what the heck is going on with Tex?
that’s twice too many times, mark.
Teix just had bad swings against Guthrie all day, it happens sometimes.
they’re booing Foster not Tex lamebrain
and you brought the bat with you why?
Sigh,Tex!
Did we ever figure out why the genius they call Maddon stayed with Garza so long? I mean, yeah he gives the best chance to win. But maybe he was on fumes as he approached 120 pitches?
6 stranded runners…
That’s at bad of series of at bats as I’ve ever seen. Going into the playoffs eh Teix. Pitiful. Struck out on a series of changeups two at bats in a row.
Matsui :/
ahem – Eric Hinkse with a walk…
LOVE MICHAEL K TALKING ABOUT THE MAD SKILLZ OF JEREMY GUTHRIE, WH’S NOW GIVIN UP 14 BASERUNNERS IN 5-2/3 INNINGS.
that’s how you do it.
SUI
the pitch that Al was salled out on was grand larceny, the fact Marty Foster tossed Al and GI Joe after that should earn him a suspension not the other way around, Do your thing Matsui-san!
Matsui picks Tex up like a good teammate.
What does this mean? :/
Nice matsui!
Despite Fosters best efforts the Yankees pull ahead.
godzilla the japanese killa!
called*
one more inning then HuMo
Marty Foster is crestfallen at not getting a chance to ring up Matsui
NICE…ok CC, give us at least one more. Then Hughes and Mo!
baltimore is a 1st place team, it really should not be this difficult to beat them at home
and why hasn’t cc striked out anyone yet?
Sometimes batters just can’t pick up the ball well from certain pitchers. It seems that is Teixeira’s problem with Arlo Guthrie.
that’s what makes the Yankees so tough, there are just no easy outs. Matsui got hammered for a ‘bad at bat’ in the first, meanwhile he just knocked in two runs with two out.
These guys aren’t perfect but they make adjustments, you have to trust them to do so and the Yankees, as a team, do it better than anyone else. Guthrie’s been living off the change and Matsui was looking for it there and ripped it.
Thank you Matsui,Now Sean show your old team some love.
heyyyyyy it’s our old friend Sean Henn.
How about Chris Ray next?
Sean Henn? I remember him.
Come on Henn, give up 4 back to back to back to back jacks.
Posada’s been hitting the ball well, there might be another hit here.
Did Henn lose weight?
Former Yankee great Sean Henn lol !
If anybody’s interested, I can update the Tampa Yankees playoff game that starts at 7:00 PM tonight. I can update batter to batter or inning to inning, depending on what you guys want. It’s the only playoff game among the three yankee teams tonight.
is ‘Midtown Mike’ down off the bridge yet?
This game feels like we should be leading 10-3.
GB7,
All the dirty details, please.
What is this, Game 7 of the World Series. Yeah, it’s really irresponsible to get thrown out of a game in September with a 7.5 game lead. Oh that monster A-Rod, he’s just not a team player. Give me a break.
unrelated question:
I have tickets for tomorrow’s make up game (tickets to the original game) – do I need to do anything, or can I just bring the original May 3rd tickets and get in…never had to deal with a make up game before.
Thanks!
kennedy is back!? since when..
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....y-returns/
And good for Alex & Joe G. to take a stand. The zone has not been Yankee-friendly all series. Except for Jose stealing that strikeout for AJ yesterday, but that’s just a testament to how good he is.
I think we should simply not put the two words, “Cano” and “RISP” in the same sentence. Just fugetaboudit.
Abdababdaserser
September 13th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Come on Henn, give up 4 back to back to back to back jacks.
That was Chase Wright.
Joe September 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
What is this, Game 7 of the World Series. Yeah, it’s really irresponsible to get thrown out of a game in September with a 7.5 game lead. Oh that monster A-Rod, he’s just not a team player. Give me a break.
lol
speaking of Chase Wright – where is he? I think he’d be better in the pen than Homer Coke
Why does this game and the series in general feel like such a struggle?
m
September 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
GB7,
All the dirty details, please.
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Will do, Mel. I’ll draw the line at the pitch by pitch. Although on the Yankee homers, I may toss in a “THWACK”. A “SWOOSH” for Yankee pitchers’ strikeouts.
LOL @ the sock explanation on YES.
Leiter is really going above and beyond.
Nice argyle socks there, Al.
so there’s a K for you all
I was never taught the baseball in a sock drill
Al’s wife is going to kill him for stretching out his sock.
Joe September 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
What is this, Game 7 of the World Series. Yeah, it’s really irresponsible to get thrown out of a game in September with a 7.5 game lead. Oh that monster A-Rod, he’s just not a team player. Give me a break.
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hysterical
Kay is such a dumby. Why does he try to make Al look like a fool? It was a teaching moment and the student was too stupid to understand. lol.
Lou_in_Vermont
September 13th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I think we should simply not put the two words, “Cano” and “RISP” in the same sentence. Just fugetaboudit.
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Yeah….What a slug that Cano is. Imagine a #7 hitter that is closing in on 80 RBI and 25 homers, while batting behind 5 other hitters doing the same thing.
Rishi
September 13th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
so there’s a K for you all
they were just all butt hurt because it was hurting their fantasy baseball stats
Did he just yank his sock off from his feet? I tuned in a bit later.
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE DP
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!”
September 13th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Did he just yank his sock off from his feet? I tuned in a bit later.
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sure did
Al Leiter may talk with a monotonous tone in his voice, but, he knows pitching and baseball. He’s also not above poking fun at himself. He’s the perfect foil for Kay. Flaherty is much the same way. Leiter isn’t as dum as some people think. He’s just not “exciting”, but, he’s perfect for TV because of his visual demos.
How did I know it was going to be another lefty pitcher?
Thanks Rishi, Al Leiter = AWESOME
Though, I might be.
Leiter isn’t as dum as some people think
Correction: Leiter isn’t as ***dumb*** as some people think
Nick in SF…..Eagles 38-10….
Yes, he did Brandon. It was rather amusing.
I think his explanation went over MKay’s head, but I appreciated his sacrifice, lol.
So, does sabathia come out for a batter to batter, or is it Coke or Marte against Markakis?
Or Hughes?
Though, I might be.
Leiter isn’t as dum as some people think
Correction: Leiter isn’t as ***dumb*** as some people think
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LOLOL GB, that irony made my day. *still giggling*
I agree with you though. I actually learn things when Leiter is in the booth.
HOw come they did not charge an error to Damon for that mistake? Instead, it is a ER for Sabathia.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 13th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Though, I might be.
Leiter isn’t as dum as some people think
Correction: Leiter isn’t as ***dumb*** as some people think
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LOLOL GB, that irony made my day. *still giggling*
I agree with you though. I actually learn things when Leiter is in the booth.
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Hey….I call ‘em like I see ‘em.
Leiter is really good in his explainations on his weekend shows. He tailors it more to the kids, but, doesn’t really talk beneath the adults. I like his stints on MLB, too.
I’m scared for my Giants today, young WRs that aren’t ready to go up against 1 CBs and defensive jams, this is gonna be a tough season, I’ve been saying that, And no I do not, nor have I have for the last 4 yrs. believed in that guy that’s related to Santana Moss.
YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!
Phil is so casual. I love it.
Master Phil
Nice Hughes! Wow Kay just called it a “comeback inning” because last time out he gave up a run. Oh my God, a run? How dare you Phil…
lol. They had the sock drill spliced into the Al video at the stadium. A whole new generation learning something new.
a hit is a hit and i’ll take it
Will wonders never cease,Tex go on base!
NO squeeze. You can’t bunt with your cleanup hitter.
I think our (the Giants) offense could struggle because we have no recievers, but our defense and running game is going to be good enoguh to largely make up for it.
We’re going to the playoffs, from there it’s a crapshoot.
I’m also a big Hakeem Nicks fan, just not this year since rookie WR’s normally need an adjustment year.
This just in…Brad lidge sucks
that’s clutch
SUi!!!!!!!!!
Nice day for the Sayonara kid.
Not very humble, Hideki. Only needed a sac fly there.
Few if anyone would have given Matsui a chance for 25 homers, 90 RBI and a .285 batting average, this year.
Is Kay correct in his pronunciation: “Mott Sui” or should it be “Matt Sui”?
What a play in Cincy!
Braves routing the Cards.Looks like they will sweep their division leader,so far 8-0 Braves
Cano is just 17 hits short of 200 and 6 runs short of 100. Both would be firsts for him. Still has a crack at 90+ RBI, too. Impressive for a lazy, non-clutch slug of a 2nd baseman.
I actually was part of the faithful few that thought Godzilla would have a good year. I was thinking 250-60, 20 HR’s, 85 RBI. He’s surpassed my expectations.
Holy crap, what just happened in Cincy?
Grats CC on the win
it’s the Matsui and Melky show
lay it on thick
get that run differential back to normal (completely for aesthetic purposes)
Alex was a genius to get tossed out
The team woke up….
save some of these hits/runs for tomorrow night.
MG
September 13th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
this has been a strange game but if CC can get some quick outs the Yankees will probably be in the lead soon, it just has that feeling. Guthrie has really struggled but eventually the Yankees will score some runs in bunches.
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drum roll for good forecast, please…
How many more starts CC will get?
I really hope he gets to win 20 games.
gardner gets a hit
:/
So no one is watching the end of the Broncos/Bengals game? Watch sports center. Awesome ending.
I think Damon’s mental miscue actually woke up the team.
I saw it m. Oh my God, what an unbelievable play.
You get the Lohud Miss Cleo trophy today, MG.
Nice forecast.
awesome
get those kinks out guys
that BA with runners in scoring position and 2 outs looking good right about now
it’s funny, Teix looked awful against Guthrie but his line for the game will be 2 for 4, 1 run scored, 2 rbi’s…
Pena is the only Yankee batter with an official at bat without a hit.
check that, 2 for 5, sorry…
m
September 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
So no one is watching the end of the Broncos/Bengals game? Watch sports center. Awesome ending.
frkn bengals picking up right where they left off last year. can’t believe they blew that!
holy cow
There goes the Pena base hit
MG
September 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
it’s funny, Teix looked awful against Guthrie but his line for the game will be 2 for 4, 1 run scored, 2 rbi’s…
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On the last Guthrie at bat, not many people would look for 5 straight change-ups from a pitcher that throws 95 MPH. It took guts by Guthrie to pull that one off.
GreenBeret7
September 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
MG
September 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
it’s funny, Teix looked awful against Guthrie but his line for the game will be 2 for 4, 1 run scored, 2 rbi’s…
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On the last Guthrie at bat, not many people would look for 5 straight change-ups from a pitcher that throws 95 MPH. It took guts by Guthrie to pull that one off.
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I agree, GB, Teix just wasn’t seeing the ball out of Guthrie’s hand, it would be interesting to see if he always has that problem with him.
geez
JoPo, take mercy on the pitcher. This is sorta sad.
Posada made the 2nd out in this inning and is back up…amazing
too bad po couldn’t make the 1st out too.
Posada is a bum. Makes two out in one inning. They should have used Cervelli to pinch hit for him in the first at bat.
oh, no, Bruney pitching the 9th inning, the Yankees don’t want to win this game!!!!!!
Come Bruney, shut this out without giving up runs.
Did I just hear them call Duncan Damon?
can we trust Bruney with 10 runs?
Funny how Damon’s boner woke the team up. They scored the tying runs in the botton half of that inning. Thanks for the wake-up call Johnny.
MG
September 13th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
GreenBeret7
September 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
MG
September 13th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
it’s funny, Teix looked awful against Guthrie but his line for the game will be 2 for 4, 1 run scored, 2 rbi’s…
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On the last Guthrie at bat, not many people would look for 5 straight change-ups from a pitcher that throws 95 MPH. It took guts by Guthrie to pull that one off.
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I agree, GB, Teix just wasn’t seeing the ball out of Guthrie’s hand, it would be interesting to see if he always has that problem with him.
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It appears to be, MG. A career .125 off of Guthrie with 2 strikeouts before today. 1-8 with a double and 1 RBI.
This is why hes terrible
Manning to Manningham, 25 yards for a 1st down!!!
oops, wrong sport.
On the last Guthrie at bat, not many people would look for 5 straight change-ups from a pitcher that throws 95 MPH. It took guts by Guthrie to pull that one off.
Not really, Guthrie struck him out on 3 straight CUs the at bat before. That’s the thing, last year Teix was 40 points higher on his batting average and was hitting the ball to all fields, same power. This year he’s swinging out of control and trying to pull everything. I just don’t understand what happened to him.
“UPDATE, 3:56 p.m.: You’re gonna miss Matsui when he’s gone. That’s 24 homers and 81 RBI for the DH this season. Now we’ll get Bruney instead of Mo.”
Ehhhh…. Lot of those rbis… including today are meaningless… Hideki is too hot too cold, and very good at padding stats.. Im looking forward to having flexibility at dh next year… with Damon, Posada, Arod, Jeter, Swisher, Gardy… will all get time at DH Makes the team better, IMO
Lou_in_Vermont
September 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
can we trust Bruney with 10 runs?
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I’d trust him more than you making a post that didn’t include a complaint about something.
GO BIG BLUE !!!!!!!
UPDATE, 3:56 p.m.: You’re gonna miss Matsui when he’s gone. That’s 24 homers and 81 RBI for the DH this season.
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I’ve said the same thing a number of times this season. Matsui is a huge part of this offense.
The offense as a whole can’t help but take a step back next season because there are no many guys who have stepped up this season and played better than we could have expected.
Several guys are having career years at the plate or damn close to it.
The Yanks need to compensate for that inevitable step back next season and improve their pitching and defense over the offseason.
They really have to hope that Joba and Hughes both take a step forward in their developmental process in the rotation and they find someone reliable to replace Hughes in the pen.
Bruney – still not as bad as Lidge.
Adam,
You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about regarding Matsui.
He is a huge part of this offense. He’s also the ideal guy to protect A-Rod.
Kay had the line of the day when he told Leiter he felt like he was working with Shari Lewis. She had a sock puppet named Lamb Chop back in the day.
ADam
September 13th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
“UPDATE, 3:56 p.m.: You’re gonna miss Matsui when he’s gone. That’s 24 homers and 81 RBI for the DH this season. Now we’ll get Bruney instead of Mo.”
Ehhhh…. Lot of those rbis… including today are meaningless… Hideki is too hot too cold, and very good at padding stats.. Im looking forward to having flexibility at dh next year… with Damon, Posada, Arod, Jeter, Swisher, Gardy… will all get time at DH Makes the team better, IMO
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Ehhhhhh! You realize that it was only a 2 run lead, right? and, you realize that most players RBIs are tack on runs or in losses, right?
almost everyone on this blog complains about Bruney but he’s holding the first batter against him to a .129 batting average this season with either 4 or 5 walks. I don’t see how this is all that bad but the ‘Bruney truthers’ know best.
way to fail bruney
MG September 13th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
almost everyone on this blog complains about Bruney but he’s holding the first batter against him to a .129 batting average this season with either 4 or 5 walks. I don’t see how this is all that bad but the ‘Bruney truthers’ know best.
Tony Pena does not agree with you lol
Killer having to bring out Bruney, but its the right move. Its to send a message to him.
Amazing! Pena pulls Bruney. No way to win friends and influence people. Maybe Bruney wakes up, good move Tony.
I want Matsui back next year, he’s only played part time this year and has 24 HR’s and over 80 RBI’s, many of them in clutch situations.
GreenBeret7 September 13th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Lou_in_Vermont
September 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
can we trust Bruney with 10 runs?
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I’d trust him more than you making a post that didn’t include a complaint about something.
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The system edited out my “just kidding” comments, so your irascibility was wasted because I wasn’t complaining.
Yeah, today’s runs were “meaningless”. They were only the difference in the game. Brilliant.
Matsui is one of the keys to the post-season. In case you haven’t noticed, when he’s hot, the entire lineup becomes circular, and Arod gets great pitches to hit.
He’s had a terrific year for the Yankees.
I like what Pena is doing here.
10 run lead he still can’t throw strikes.
Pull him and send a message this is unacceptable.
The guy just can’t pitch in any situation. At some point, you have to put him and the team out of their misery.
Can’t throw strikes, can’t stay in the game.
Well done Tony.
Tony Pena with the quick hook…..Brian, what in the hell is going on with you ?????
Tony Pena taking out Bruney here is very telling, and not just for the obvious.
If Bruney was simply working on things, like in ST, that’s one thing. But Pena taking him out may signify that they have been unhappy with his approach, and not just in this game. I recall Eiland and Joe getting in his face several games ago, after which he worked more effectively.
Why there is still an issue with Bruney I don’t know, obviously. But it appears that it is, hence Tony’s feeling he has to embarass Bruney in front of his peers.
Bruney may not be as bad as Lidge, but that is only because Bruney isn’t a closer. You wouldn’t have Bruney racking up saves.
Do you have guts let Bruney pitch in postseason?
No, I don’t!
Congratulation CC on # 17.
Thank you for averting the sweep Ace!
While everybody was celebrating Jeter’s feta compli,they took their eyes off the game(too much partying perhaps),and gave 2 games away.
Sure feels good to even up the rout.
When Joe get’s thrown out the Yankees respond,with their bats.
Braves pitcher Javier Vazquez started the 9tH inning with 81 pitches,2 scored with only 94 pitches HE WON.See why the DH is so important in the AL?
Did Leiter just say, “Pitchers when they are bright, can throw a strike”? Because , if anything, Bruney does not appear to be the brightest bulb in the socket.
Okay mlbtv.com just made me miss the last outs!!!!!!!
i’m not sure if people are understanding what leiter means by release.
it’s not a muscle action moving your hand. it’s letting go and relaxing the hand so the hand snaps down on it’s own.
some pitchers tend to hold their release and it just doesn’t happen freely.
it’s the same in hitting. it actually takes strength to hold the release. if a hitter isn’t strong enough his hands release too early on their own.
if a hitter can hold his release long enough, he can actually break the bat handle. if a hitter can approach doing that he’ll have a very high bat speed.
Ramirez missed that pitch by the width of the plate. Cervelli is somewhat predictable in that he almost always sets up outside. You can’t do that with guys like Bruney and Burnett. Set up in the middle and let the ball move on it’s own.
and then i missed the post game interview stupid!!
Well Pena just gave Bruney a wake up call the hard way. He embarassed him. They need Bruney for the playoffs, if tough love is what it takes, more power to Pena. It’s a ten run lead, throw strikes, don’t mess around, get this thing over with.
kav September 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Okay mlbtv.com just made me miss the last outs!!!!!!!
And the post game interview. I hate MLBTV.
mick
September 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Did Leiter just say, “Pitchers when they are bright, can throw a strike”? Because , if anything, Bruney does not appear to be the brightest bulb in the socket.
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The word was “right”.
Bruney just isn’t very good – there are no issues with him, he’s just not good.
“Can’t throw strikes, can’t stay in the game.
Well done Tony.”
amen to that.
Gardners fine. U people r nuts
CC up to 17 wins. Awesome.
The Captain’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/X9ozZ
Thanks Gb.
Pena made the right move.
If Joe did it, it might have caused a stir. Pena has nothing to lose, and if it effects Bruney positively, everything to gain.
Betsy
September 13th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Bruney just isn’t very good – there are no issues with him, he’s just not good.
Amen. That’s been the knock on him since day 1. It should hardly be a surprise. Bruney is what he is.
” Cervelli is somewhat predictable in that he almost always sets up outside. You can’t do that with guys like Bruney and Burnett. Set up in the middle and let the ball move on it’s own.”
gb7-
now think about this . you just criticized cervelli. are you prepared to defend yourself against his fan club for the next month ?
just trying to help you out here
Bruney has the same problems as Burnett and as a relief pitcher, the same problems as Jeff Nelson had. Nearly unhittable at times, but, the ball either moves out of the strike zone or he loses his mechanics. How many times did people see Nelson get the first two outs, then walk the next three and throw a wild pitch?
Giants in the redzone, need more than just a FG here.
Matsui should return for a one year deal. You just don’t replace his production that easily and at what cost.
Wouldn’t worry about spreading the DH abs around.
It has worked well this season.
He is a bonafide clutch hitter.
Its a big pet peeve of mine and I know it is with this staff.
Throwing strikes in blowout games. Especially to non-hitters.
I can’t recall the exact stat but, the Yankees actually kept track of how many times Mariano warmed up in blowout games the last few years of the Torre Era. IIRC, it amounted to him working another 8-10 innings in the bullpen.
That’s a lot and if you recall, Joe would always get Mariano up once Bruney or someone else would pul this nonsense.
Girardi has tried to avoid overusing the “A” guys in these type of games. Not like in 2007 when Torre used Vizcaino 13 times in the second half of the year with leads of 4 or more runs. He blew the guy out and when he needed him in the ALDS, his tank was empty.
They are giving Brian Bruney every chance to get straightened out. Unfortunately, he’s not cooperating and I think the staff has reached its breaking point with him.
Tony Pena sent a clear message that this nonsense has to stop. If it doesn’t, he won’t be in the post-season roster because they are not going to waste a spot on the post-season staff on a guy who can’t throw the ball over the plate.
Once October begins, all the excuses end. Either step or step off. Its not about feelings, excuses or anything.
Its about doing what you have to do to win 11 games and a WS.
All the bridge jumpers and trolls can take a holiday.
Yanks win again.
Stat of the day: Yanks move to 92-52 on days that end in Y.
They need Bruney in playoff?!
LOL
yeah, unless they are up or down 10 runs. Oh wait, 10+ runs.
LOL
Randy I, I remember the T drill that you were explaing yesterday…….I think it’s a lost drill now a days…I used to teach it to Little Leaguers, as well as the break, set & throw drills…..
Bruney isn’t exactly a key pitcher in the post season, he’s about the 5th option behind both Aceves and Joba (ALDS).
That’s a good bounce back win on a day where CC wasn’t very good but gave them 7 innings and what should have been 2 runs.
“” Cervelli is somewhat predictable in that he almost always sets up outside. You can’t do that with guys like Bruney and Burnett. Set up in the middle and let the ball move on it’s own.”
man GB, don’t be dum.
Pitchers don’t throw to Cervelli’s mitt. They just throw in the direction of his dreamy eyes.
randy l.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
” Cervelli is somewhat predictable in that he almost always sets up outside. You can’t do that with guys like Bruney and Burnett. Set up in the middle and let the ball move on it’s own.”
gb7-
now think about this . you just criticized cervelli. are you prepared to defend yourself against his fan club for the next month ?
just trying to help you out here
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Just the way I’ve seen it, especially with Burnett and Bruney. I’m hoping they can correct this and soon. Maybe what worked when Norm Sherry told Koufax to back off on his fastball works for them. Worked for Ryan and Randy Johnson, too. It kept their mechanics more under control and there was still plenty of smoke and movement on their pitches.
This team needs to re-sign Damon AND Matsui.Its not gonna be great to rotate DHs next year is ARod walks 150 times and drives in 80 runs.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
“” Cervelli is somewhat predictable in that he almost always sets up outside. You can’t do that with guys like Bruney and Burnett. Set up in the middle and let the ball move on it’s own.”
man GB, don’t be dum.
Pitchers don’t throw to Cervelli’s mitt. They just throw in the direction of his dreamy eyes.
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LMAO. They’d better start making him catch with sun glasses on, then. He’s screwing up the pitchers.
Bruney sucks ! He shouldn’t pitch in any situation in the playoffs. Do you trust Bruney in the playoffs ? I don’t.
We’ve been through this about a dozen times in recent weeks.
Bruney will be on the postseason roster. You can bank on it.
Girardi doesn’t trust anyone else in that bullpen enough to replace Bruney.
Bruney has shown that he can be a top flight pitcher throwing mid nineties. With Robertson on hold you don’t know if he’ll be effective and he already has shaky command. If Bruney and Marte are on, the BP becomes lights out. Coke and Roberson are basically rookies so you want to ease them into the pressure cooker of the playoffs.
Any coincidence that Joe and Arod both go off on the same ump that called Jeter out on that play at 3rd earlier in the season? He’s the ump that told him the ball beat him there so he’s out.
Last night’s line: GB -4
Current line: GB -5
Nick in SF moves markets?
I’m listening to La Russa,say that Carpenter had Good Stuff today,in the press conference,but,he says the balls weren’t locating.duh!
Cards lost 9-2,went 8 scoreless innings,and the Braves never used it’s pen.
Who does that remind you of,after a really bad loss,one guess?
IRC, I thought Bruney was pretty good last season, until he got injured.
But perhaps thats my memory mistaking me and going into “what have you done for me lately?” yankee fan mode.
Nick in SF….I’m locked in at 4….Dennis and his overs ( Eagles ) were indeed a lock…..
Never have seen Girardi that nuts.
Was waiting for him to turn his hat backwards a la Earl Weaver or Billy. Joe accused the ump of touching him.
YES post-game Booth Report with Nancy Newman, Michael Kay, and Al Leiter:
http://bit.ly/2t18t
haiku-man
Again, no point in throwing a player under the bus. You can do that in the clubhouse.
-Mick
He also said he didn’t need to tag Jeter,when he caught the ball.
another visual for the idea of release is when a golf club or a bat are hitting a ball with a good late release, the bat is bent like a banana with the bat head leading the way.
here’s a good example:
http://www.beabetterhitter.com.....nzalez.jpg
Nick in SF in San Mateo
September 13th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Last night’s line: GB -4
Current line: GB -5
Nick in SF moves markets?
Take the over.
GreenBeret7 will have more than 5 spelling errors.
Pete asking about Joe getting suspended.
Bruney has never been a solid pitcher. He was only good for part of last year and a few weeks this year. The guy just doesn’t have the goods to be a solid pitcher. He will be on the postseason roster but he won’t be used in big situations.
Pat M: the Eagles were very good to me… I had the over as well as the spread. When I get home later I will go back and try to find my comment of last evening. I am uncomfortable being on the other side from you and dennis — I am hoping that the GMEN prevail and my day will be guaranteed positive well before the kickoff in Green Bay.
I don’t see Joba as a force in the playoffs. I don’t see the extension or the finish on his pitches. No leg drive, so I agree that he’s out of shape. Compare that to Hughes pitching, just awesome. I think that the Joba of the high nineties cheese won’t be back till next year.
Thanks Pel!!!
Joe denies that he wasn’t mad at ump Foster because he was the ump in that Jeter call at 3rd.
Nice question Pete.
Don’t believe Joe though.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Nick in SF in San Mateo
September 13th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Last night’s line: GB -4
Current line: GB -5
Nick in SF moves markets?
Take the over.
GreenBeret7 will have more than 5 spelling errors.
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If you’re setting the line at +5 errors, then you have no guts. You could show your real mettle by putting the line at -4. What a coward.
Defending Johnny on his bonehead play.
I think it woke the Yanks up.
They immediately tied the game up that inning.
Even Jeter was shocked to see the runner heading for home.
That line wasn’t about spelling errors… it was diaper changes. See you later.
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/10Xyxn
>Thanks Pel!!!
-Carl
You don’t know LaRussa,If you’re his favorite,he’ll protect you.If you aren’t you never heard a mgr slash players,he’ll throw mama under the bus.
Just ask Suppan,Marquee,Rolen,Edmonds,and David Eckstein.
randy l.
Thanks a lot. That’s a great site, some of those drills brought back some good memories.
“I think it’s a lost drill now a days…I used to teach it to Little Leaguers,”
pat m-
i must have missed that drill in little league because i really did put tony cloninger on his butt twice in about ten minutes with my side ways missing.
with proper motivation (like getting fired), i learned to throw straight using the “T” drill really fast.
the reason i had trouble throwing when tony was up close with the pitcher was that i knew he was up close and with my mechanics so bad it was easy to choke which made the release erratic which was why i threw the ball at him .
when you get your mechanics right it makes it immensely easier to release properly and not choke.
when people are debating if it’s in aj’s head or his mechanics, i’d say it starts with bad mechanics and snowballs to choking when under pressure into a head thing
when aj is not under pressure, i think it’s easier for him to time his release. for the playoffs someone should hypnotize him that it’s a spring training .
haiku-man September 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
-Carl
You don’t know LaRussa,If you’re his favorite,he’ll protect you.If you aren’t you never heard a mgr slash players,he’ll throw mama under the bus.
Just ask Suppan,Marquee,Rolen,Edmonds,and David Eckstein.
Ah ok. Hes probably stickin’ his favorites with needles.
CC’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/3ml1j
Al’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/TQIua
Damon’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/rXwWs
G-Men 17-0
I am glad that A-Rod said that Foster was unprofessional a couple of times in his post game interview. I agree.
He mentioned the Jeter incident and his own. Something needs to be done to correct this stuff from the umpires making the game about themselves. Its been getting worse over the last few years.
Of course, under Selig nothing will change.
The Joe Girardi Show (09/13/09) – Segment #1:
http://bit.ly/doVYc
Joe Buck is an absolute disgrace as a football announcer.
The Joe Girardi Show (09/13/09) – Segment #2:
http://bit.ly/Wt9rG
-Carl
Even though he was the mgr of the A’S best known roiders,.Both Giambi’s,Conseco,and Ma rkMacguire,who later did follow him to,the show me state.
I don’t think he personally used needles,he just prtended,not to notice the juicers,who did.
St Louis,tolerates him and his lousy attitude with the press.
At 10:52 last night, I predicted today’s score would be 15-2. I was not terribly far off
Alex postgame a riot.
I love his lack of sentimentality. He tells it like it is: “It was a ball.” – instead of trying to anticipate/control responses to what he then filters.
I have no doubt his praise of Girardi for backing him up is also a commentary on how Torre did not do that for him, because he really didn’t.
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes September 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Alex postgame a riot.
I love his lack of sentimentality. He tells it like it is: “It was a ball.” – instead of trying to anticipate/control responses to what he then filters.
I laughed when he said that. It was a ball. lol
The Joe Girardi Show (09/13/09) – Segment #3:
http://bit.ly/16hiri
1. Tony LaRussa would be an absolute disaster in NYC. A while back, some were clammering for him to replace Girardi. That would be awful. LaRussa has had problems in St. Louis, where the Cardinals are idolized, and the media reportedly goes along. Can you imagine how his act would play in NY, with the media throng here? How could that not affect the team?
2. Unfortunately, my power went out just as the postgame was starting (having a lot of work done on my house, and the circuit breaker kept blowing). So, I missed Alex’ comments. Would have loved to have heard it. Hoping Pete has an audio file posted.
I don’t think the whole Torre approach did the Yankees any favors.
He was so kiss butt about Boston, for starters, and tried to be the game’s ambassador rather than the Yankee manager in his later years.
I still bristle thinking about how he failed to back Alex up on the “Mine!” thing, and how he humiliated him by batting him eighth.
Girardi may be polite, but he does not mince words when he thinks we’re getting the raw end of something. And he will always back his guys.
Joe from LI,
Pel has provided links here to the postgame and to Alex’s comments.
Pel (a/k/a Bart Simpson)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Al’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/TQIua
The Joe Girardi Show (09/13/09) – Segment #4:
http://bit.ly/3otZVd
Thanks Pel. You rock
There’s no question Torre didn’t back ALL of his guys the way Girardi does.
Torre would defend guys like Jeter, Mo, and Pettitte to the death. But he didn’t do the same for guys like Damon or A-Rod.
I liked Torre as much as any Yankee fan but he really did need to go when he did.
I’m sure the bullpen arms are happy about it.
Joe deserved his grace period because of his excellent tenure and his contribution.
The unfortunate thing was the Yankee grandstanding/kangaroo court manner in which they dispatched him. He really earned his ticket out of town based on the way he managed – or failed to manage – the 2004 ALCS. The result is secondary – he simply did not manage. One of the most puzzling things I’ve ever seen.
But the Yankees’ oily ways in getting him to quit were hard to swallow. He deserved a more graceful exit, and that will always reflect badly on them, no matter what people think of Joe’s sense of entitlement.
As for Girardi, other than some literal letter-of-the-law managing compulsions, he was the right man for the job and I think the Yankees, knowing they had one shot at him, could not pass it up.
Smart move.
The book was a disappointment, but your hyperbole makes me roll my eyes.
Joe will always be an important part of Yankee history. He earned that. I hope he comes back to the Stadium in the future, and everyone kisses and makes up. That’s the high road that needs to be taken by both sides, and I don’t think they will disappoint.
Couldn’t they have charged JD with a throwing error?