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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 16, 2009 
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The crack research team here at the LHYB just determined that Yankee pitchers have hit Toronto batters eight times in five games this month. The Blue Jays have hit the Yankees twice.
In retrospect, Posada was lucky he got a waist-high, off-speed pitch behind him and not a fastball at his noggin.
It’ll be interesting to see whether there is any carry-over tonight. I would suspect not. Joe Girardi made it very clear to his team last night that he was not pleased with the course of events.
General Joe is generally a man of peace, but he has had a rough week. He snapped on Marty Foster over the weekend and yesterday got smacked on the left side of his head during the brawl. His inadvertent assailant was John McDonald, who was trying to pull somebody off the pile and caught Joe instead,
Johnny Mac, who grew up a Yankees fan and is a genuinely good guy, was horrified later on to find out what had happened.
Meanwhile, we wait for word from MLB on any suspensions. Posada might need Jackie Chiles to get out of this one.
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Kristin, a publicist with good timing, sends word that Jorge’s foundation is having an on-line auction that ends tomorrow.
You can get a glove signed by Jorge, Yogi Berra and Joe Girardi or some World Series tickets.
All proceeds benefit The Jorge Posada Foundation, started by Jorge & Laura Posada and dedicated to benefiting children and families struggling with Craniosynostosis, a condition affecting the brain and skull development of infants.
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Back later with the game post. I have some pre-road trip things to do. Such as pack.
UPDATE, 1:52 p.m.: Listening to Mike Francesa on WFAN here in New York. Some fans are losing their minds over the brawl.
Why in the world would you want Jeter or A-Rod in a fight? Honestly, you would want that? Alex had his hip socket operated on. He protects himself in walk-off celebrations. You want him wrestling with some September call-up from the Blue Jays?
Too many fans think it’s about being macho. It’s about being smart. That’s how you win.
“He snapped on Marty Foster over the weekend and yesterday got smacked on the left side of his head during the brawl. His inadvertent assailant was John McDonald, who was trying to pull somebody off the pile and caught Joe instead,”
Joe McDonald hit the RIGHT side of Girardi’s head (unless I was watching the game in the mirror).
Milton Bradley tore his ACL while getting restrained by his manager 2 years ago and was out for the year.
So many things could have happened, it was just dumb. Andy was on the bottom of that pile, his sore shoulder and all.
Girardi really needs to stop pitching Melancon before someone gets hurt. His control is horrific. Everytime he comes remotely inside, it hits someone or barely misses hitting them.
Both Pete and Mike Francessa are 100% correct. Yankees need to be smarter than that.
They need to clinch the East and stop messing around.
Chris- It was the left side of Joe’s head. Check out the clips of the fight.
If Jorge sits tonight (just his normal off-day) and his suspension starts on Friday, does it become retroactive and would they count today as one of his “suspended” days?
Good for Posada… let those punk Blue Jays know whose boss…..
Throwing behind someone at his back is not what I call lucky…..of course, it’s not lucky to have your head thrown at, but what happens if Jorge reacted inadvertently by backing into the pitch? He might have been seriously hurt. Carlson should have thrown at Jorge’s shoulder or thigh…..not at his back, where he can’t see the pitch.
Jennifer:
I accidentally spamified your comment, sorry.
If Carlson cursed a fan, he’s wrong. But some jackass hurled a full bottle of soda into the pile and caught umpire Derryl Cousins on the knee, causing him to leave the game.
Imagine had he hit somebody in the head with it? Some fans weren’t acting too well, either.
Betsy: It was a waist-high off-speed pitch well behind him. Posada is not fast enough to have gotten hit by that pitch and even if he had, it would not have hurt him. Toronto retaliated the exact right way. That’s how you’re supposed to do it.
Just checking out some players, Melky Mesa RF Riverdogs kid lead the team in HR with 20 and RBI. I saw him live while vacationing at Hilton Head SC. Pure raw tallent reminds me of Alfonso Soriano he has a very long swing.
Wait.. you wanted him to throw at Jorge’s shoulder rather than behind him?
“Chris- It was the left side of Joe’s head. Check out the clips of the fight.”
I watched it again. When John McDonald came in (he appears to be trying to pull Tex back) his left had smacks Girardi on the right temple. I know the bruise was on Joe’s left side, but McDonald hit him on the right side.
Is it bad I actually agree with Francesa for once?
Wouldn’t have been funny if Burnett brought a pie with him to the brawl and pied someone?
I didn’t realize John McDonald grew up a Yankee fan. I’ve always felt he would make an incredible utility guy for the Yanks. He has one of the best gloves in baseball.
Ah, I see what you mean Chris. Maybe it wasn’t McDonald that caused the bruise on the left side then…
Not trying to be rude by changing the subject but, Andrew Brackman had a 2-12 record, but the good news for the Yankees is that this is after having surgery on his arm. He had 106 innings pitch.
Is it bad I actually agree with Francesa for once?
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Not really. You know what they say about a broken clock…
Christina,
He’s right… it was dumb and unnecessary. No defending Jorge.
Peter, I never said they did. I only pointed out in the video from the Toronto feed they showed Carlson walking into the dugout looking up and cursing, clearly at a fan. If they find on video who threw the full bottle of soda they should lose ticket privileges. That could have very easily hit a Yankee as well.
This nonsense of people thinking they can toss balls etc on the field needs to end.
I hope its the end of it.
If it isn’t, the Yankees need to walk away tonight if a guy gets hit.
Let it go and think big picture.
Toronto is going home and the Yankees are trying to win a WS.
That takes precedent over the macho stuff.
This show is hilarious so far
Some of these callers are so dumb.
MLB should institute an NBA style penalty – 1 game suspension if you leave the dugout of bullpen during a fight.
Did Melancon just start pitching inside recently or something? How can he be so bad at it?
I dont get the people that want Jeter in the middle of the Brawl. HE IS A STAR, and a CLASSY dude. Why should he be in the middle of the fight and get hurt?
You put the balm on? Who told you to put the balm on? I didn’t tell you to put the balm on. Why’d you put the balm on? You haven’t even been to see the doctor. If you’re gonna put a balm on, let a doctor put a balm on. Where’d you get that balm anyway?
Shelley Duncan.
The who? What you talking bout a Duncan?
My friend, Shelley Duncan. He’s an outfielder.
Oh, so an outfielder tells you to put a balm on and you do it? This is a public humiliation.
Girardi really needs to stop pitching Melancon before someone gets hurt. His control is horrific. Everytime he comes remotely inside, it hits someone or barely misses hitting them.
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Girardi needs to stop pitching Melancon because Melancon can’t get anyone out. Its obvious that he is not a long term contributor to our bullpen. I hope they can trade him in the offseason.
I agree, Mark has no control and right now has no business pitching in games. He is going to get one of the Yankees hurt with his lack of control.
Chris – the problem with a rule where you can’t leave the bench is that it the poo-poo hit the fan, the batter would be virtually alone on the field against nine opponents. Unless there’s anyone on base. You can’t really count the base coaches, who are middle-aged or older, against younger and probably stronger athletes who already out number them significantly.
Granted the batter has a weapon in his hands (his bat) but you don’t want to leave a guy only that angle to protect himself. At least in the NBA there are five guys on each team on the court to sort it out evenly.
Melancon = Rick Ankiel?
Just checking out some players, Melky Mesa RF Riverdogs kid lead the team in HR with 20 and RBI. I saw him live while vacationing at Hilton Head SC. Pure raw tallent reminds me of Alfonso Soriano he has a very long swing.
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Mesa has never hit over .240 in his minor league career. I hate to say this, but…he’s not a major league prospect.
Melancon needs to go to the minors. Everyone thinks that the Yankee pitchers hit batters on purpose now. I believe that this team should fight back when batters are attacked, but this situation was blown up by melancon and his failure to pitch inside. Someone needs to talk to him.
“MLB should institute an NBA style penalty – 1 game suspension if you leave the dugout of bullpen during a fight.”
That sounds fair; one batter vs 9 position players.
Yeah I had high hopes for Melancon but his stock is falling fast. He might not be in a Yankee uniform for long.
Looks like the Yanks will miss Weaver and Lackey in Anaheim next week. Likely match-ups:
Pettitte vs. Saunders
Mitre (until further notice) vs. Saunders
Burnett vs. Kazmir
“You don’t care where Carlson was standing, did you care when he threw the ball behind Posada? Or are you just unwilling to accept the fact that there were two people involved in escalating the situation, in favor of just calling Posada a punk and wagging your finger. Not arguing that Posada wasn’t in the wrong but it’s a two way street. ”
No I didn’t care when Carlson threw behind Posada. It was totally warranted. Carlson did what pitchers should do, he protected his hitters while avoiding an injury to the other team. Sabathia did the same thing earlier this season, did anyone have a problem with that?
I’m sorry but Posada was a punk last night. And this is coming from a huge Posada fan. I own two Yankees jerseys, Jeter and Posada.
*Mitre vs. Santana
(Saunders isn’t quite that durable.)
They don’t suspend guys who break it up. Come on Christina. Think
Wasn’t Melancon the heir to Mo….He was the Bulldog ready to take over, the minute Mo calls it a day…He was supposed to be that man….All we got was Phil Hughes….its amazing what can happen in a few months
Redsox kept the team win,but Yankees……..
An army puffed up with pride is bound to lose.
An army which is cocksure about its invincibility is doomed to defeat.
To know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles with no danger of defeat.
RMEL,
Only unreasonably optimistic fans that believe prospect hype thought Melancon was the closer-in-waiting. Most objective scouts think he will be a set-up man; a 7th, 8th inning kind of guy.
It’s possible he could close in the future but he’s obviously still pretty raw. There is no denying his talent but he needs to work on some things. I expect he’ll make the team in ST next year and work his way through the pen until he’s in the circle of trust or whatever.
Yanks should take their lumps on this one. Anybody gets hit tonight you hope it’s not in the face, you let it go and take first base. Story over. Move on. Play ball. Don’t make it worse. Don’t get insured at cost of the WS.
Toronto doesn’t seem to have any history bad blood over here, or a Beckett type personality, and Joba hasn’t made a habit of scaring the poo out of a Youkilis type personality over there. The Rocket isn’t on either team anymore. Get it over with tonight, and that should be it.
Jorge should take his suspension w/o appeal and move on. I think he will.
“I still dont see how you can blame Carlson more than Posada.”
christina-
carlson had already thrown at posada. being in the place he was which was the wrong place for backing up the play shows he was trying to get near posada.
what if when carlson who positioned himself out of position on purpose to get close to posada , decided to throw a punch as posada went by?
what if posada ended up with a broken jaw or some other injury ? he comes around third and finds a pitcher who just threw at him in his path line. he has about two tenths of a second to make a decision because carlson has positioned himself there.
and then posada bumps his glove. big whoppee.
i’ll be very surprised if carlson doesn’t get as much time as jorge.
the video is not going to help carlson.
inJured.
… dang typos …
“I’m sorry but Posada was a punk last night”
patrick-
that’s the dumbest thing a smart person has said today
Did anyone get hurt last night??
NO
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!!!!!
Tex wasnt try to break the fight. People were holding him back. Ramirez was choking Barajas. He will get suspended.
The Blue Jays announcers called what Posada did an “innocuous brush”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
jsbrendog
September 16th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
They don’t suspend guys who break it up. Come on Christina. Think
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Excuse me?
I hope John “The Horrified” McDonald doesn’t get PTSD from accidentally brushing somebody with his open hand during the fight.
Horrified, right. “He cried to the heavens upon learning he gently smacked Girardi.”
“Surprised” might be more like it.
Posada lost his cool. Nobody was seriously hurt. It’s fun to talk about.
What about the dad and his little girl at the Phillies game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9a6Ni5ClXc
Probably a five game suspension, with an appeal maybe three or four. The main thing is that they lost the game. Boston is 6.5 back, and only 5 in the loss column. They are still alive in this division, and 6.5 can turn into 4.5 very quickly, and that gives Boston cause to think they have a shot at the division. We need to win tonight, and sweep seattle, and take two of three from the Angels, and play Boston with them 7 or 8 games back. Time to get business taken care of now.
Tex wasnt try to break the fight. People were holding him back. Ramirez was choking Barajas. He will get suspended.
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Edwar Ramirez??? Chiking Rod Barajas??? Are you sure???
Patrick I don’t really want to argue over something that I agree with (that Posada was wrong in his actions), but I don’t think Carlson is some law-abiding choir boy in all this who perfectly followed the “code”. Also, Melancon’s stock is down but now is not the time to sell. He looks like he can’t handle the majors at this moment, but nobody knows if that means he never will be able to handle them, or is just not ready yet.
Chiking = Choking
Pete,
Not that this matters and I am sure it is splitting hairs but I have noticed you say it was an off speed pitch a couple times.
ESPN has Carlson saying it was a fastball that he yanked
Carlson declined to apologize and said he didn’t throw at Posada intentionally.
“It was a fastball in and I yanked it. Just a bad pitch,” he said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=290915110
He was dragging him out by his equipment. Did you see how pissed Cito Gaston was at Edwar?
I would say Posada, Carlson, Barajas, and Duncan are the definite suspensions.
Robertson may be a future closer too, now that it appears melancon is not the heir to rivera. or we can keep signing rivera to one year deals until he is 60. whatever works.
Cliff:
The umpire told us it was a slider because of the spin. I didn’t see that Carlson quote. Thanks for setting me straight. But either way, it was the right way to do it, mid-body and behind. That’s how pitchers are taught to retaliate.
if melancon is the heir to mo then i truly hope mo pitches until he’s 50 – youngster or not the guy is overmatched in the bigs – as are just about every other minor leaguer the yankees have brought up this year – keep that wallet opened and ready hal and hank…..
JB Cox was supposed to be the heir apparent to MO too.
Right now, the only heir apparent he is, is to Jose Veras as the reliever with no control who pitches in a blowouts.
Tex wasnt try to break the fight. People were holding him back. Ramirez was choking Barajas. He will get suspended.
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Edwar Ramirez??? Chiking Rod Barajas??? Are you sure???
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No he wasnt. he was pulling him by the catchers gear, not trying to choke him, but to pull him off.
Why is everyone over analyzing this? Fights happen in sports all the time. Posada will take his suspension and move on. Who cares?
*the only heir apparent Melancon is
On a lighter note, did anyone hear Steve “Baked Potato” Grillo’s interview (Stuttering John style) with Posada at his fund raiser played on The Howard Stern Show yesterday?
Jorge answered all of his questions including:
Who would win in a game between a Staten Island little league team and the Mets?
Would you have your head frozen like Ted Williams?
Grillo asked Jeter the Ted Williams question, Jeter laughed and asked him how he got in there.
Edwar Ramirez??? Chiking Rod Barajas??? Are you sure???
Catcher Rod Barajas was dragged by his chest protector at one point during the scuffle, involved with New York’s Edwar Ramirez. Barajas said that he hadn’t seen his assailant, though he said he had been choked briefly.
the biggest loser to his machismo was the toronto catcher getting tossed around like a ragdoll by edwar -all 135 lbs of him.
guarantee his teammates tease him about it.
if melancon is the heir to mo then i truly hope mo pitches until he’s 50 – youngster or not the guy is overmatched in the bigs – as are just about every other minor leaguer the yankees have brought up this year – keep that wallet opened and ready hal and hank…..
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David Robertson seems to have closer stuff. Unless they can decide to eventually more hughes or joba to that role. both would excel at it and it may be easier to find starting pitching than a closer.
Gotcha Pete, agreed.
Unfortunately, Melancon, who has exhibited none of the doggedness or command he had shown in the minors, helped cause this mess.
He hit Hill with a brutal shot in the ribs. His command is just not there. I don’t think the pitch was intentional, because Melancon’s command is so erratic right now. If it was on purpose, it’s simply inexcusable.
After seeing several of their batters hit, that pitch was the breaking point for the Jays, intentional or not. Posada should have known the retaliation was coming, and taken his base.
Carlson shouldn’t have positioned himself to be in Posada’s path at home plate, but Jorge has to be the bigger man there and just avoid the confrontation.
It’s an unfortunate incident, and you just have to hope there won’t be an Act II tonight.
Toronto needs to lay down and let us man handle their sorry fourth place kiesters for a victory tonight.
# Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing September 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
jsbrendog
September 16th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
They don’t suspend guys who break it up. Come on Christina. Think
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Excuse me?
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I think the person meant the other Christina25 (the one with the phantom autistic son).
Tex wasnt try to break the fight. People were holding him back. Ramirez was choking Barajas. He will get suspended.
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Edwar Ramirez??? Chiking Rod Barajas??? Are you sure???
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No he wasnt. he was pulling him by the catchers gear, not trying to choke him, but to pull him off.
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Thanks for the reply…I didn’t get a chance to see the game. I can’t imagine Edwar Ramirez getting anywhere close to a brawl…one good breeze could blow him over. If Edwar is gonna try to break up brawls, he better put on a few more pounds.
Twenty Seven September 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Probably a five game suspension, with an appeal maybe three or four. The main thing is that they lost the game. Boston is 6.5 back, and only 5 in the loss column. They are still alive in this division, and 6.5 can turn into 4.5 very quickly, and that gives Boston cause to think they have a shot at the division. We need to win tonight, and sweep seattle, and take two of three from the Angels, and play Boston with them 7 or 8 games back. Time to get business taken care of now.
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Fear mongering…
Lets do a little math.
Say the Yankees finish the season 8-8 (nothing is there to say they will play this bad)
The Red Sox would need to finish at 16 and 3 to win the division.
The LA Angles would need to finish at 14 and 5 to win Home Field.
The races are over.
There is no way anyone can excuse Carlson here. I have no problem with throwing behind Jorge.
But he took this next level by standing on the home side of the plate after Gardners hit. Shouldn’t have been there, wouldn’t have gotten elbowed if he wasn’t.
This is regardless of what Jim Joyce and Toronto’s catcher says.
I’m not excussing Jorge, he made a mistake ever going back towards Carlson after throwing the elbow. He made his point.
Any which way it’s cut, I’m not interested in Gammons or anyone elses sanctimonious take. He didn’t feel this way when CoCo Crisp went out or when Pedro and Gerald Williams had a go.
Some here wouldn’t be singing a different toon had Carlson jacked Posada as he ran by.
It’s unfortunate what happened, but 100% blame doesn’t rest at Jorge’s feet.
JJ
September 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Redsox kept the team win,but Yankees……..
An army puffed up with pride is bound to lose.
An army which is cocksure about its invincibility is doomed to defeat.
To know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles with no danger of defeat.
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is that from The Art of War by Sun Tzu? great great book..
we need to just win. and keep on winning.
randy l,
That’s pretty embarrassing. But further evidence that adrenaline can give people superhuman strength. Edwar:mother Barajas:car
randy l. September 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
the biggest loser to his machismo was the toronto catcher getting tossed around like a ragdoll by edwar -all 135 lbs of him.
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That’s right.
Edwar then scared the bejesus out of Cito with his crazy-eye look.
(the one with the phantom autistic son).
My son is diagnosed with PPD which is a form of autism. I’m not making this up. But you can go ahead and believe what you want. I dont care.
Any which way it’s cut, I’m not interested in Gammons or anyone elses sanctimonious take. He didn’t feel this way when CoCo Crisp went out or when Pedro and Gerald Williams had a go.
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Or when youkilis threw his helmet at Porcello, and then got bodyslammed like the B he is.
For once I agree with Christina. Let Edwar be suspended, than we won’t have to see him pitch in a game.
BTW he was not choking him. He was pulling him back. So please get your eyes checked.
Christina25 September 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
(the one with the phantom autistic son).
My son is diagnosed with PPD which is a form of autism. I’m not making this up. But you can go ahead and believe what you want. I dont care.
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Then you have a million more important things to do than hang out on the comments section of a blog of a team you don’t even like, no?
did anyone see melky was being held back too?
“that’s the dumbest thing a smart person has said today
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Fair enough, I disagree.
Thanks for the compliment though!
William Buckner
agreed!
Still don’t consider 89 mph offspeed
Porcello bodyslamming Youkilis is one of the most hilarious brawl events of the year. Right up there with Stick Edwar trying to hold off Barajas.
JJ
September 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Redsox kept the team win,but Yankees……..
An army puffed up with pride is bound to lose.
An army which is cocksure about its invincibility is doomed to defeat.
To know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles with no danger of defeat.
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is that from The Art of War by Sun Tzu? great great book
“But he took this next level by standing on the home side of the plate after Gardners hit. Shouldn’t have been there, wouldn’t have gotten elbowed if he wasn’t.”
Yeah that jerk I punched last friday should have known to move his face. What an idiot.
Come on guys, do you realize how stupid you sound defending Posada and vilifying Carlson?
I would respect carlson more if he admitted, yes i was making a point with the pitch. he now says it was a fastball that he yanked? really? only melancon can get away with that excuse because he has no control and has showed that.
Christina25 September 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
(the one with the phantom autistic son).
My son is diagnosed with PPD which is a form of autism. I’m not making this up. But you can go ahead and believe what you want. I dont care.
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a few months back you said you made it all up. I’m a little confused here.
I can go back and find the posts, but I’ll just leave it at this: if you’re being truthful, I wish you nothing but the best with your son.
There is no chance Tex gets suspended. None.
I know its your hope Christina.
Reality however, is a different thing.
the funny thing about posada fighting last night is that he gets hurt more in every game he catches than he likely did last night?
players don’t usually go after catchers because their pain threshold is so high from pitches to the mask, unprotected body parts, and collisions with bats and runners.
that may have been what posada was yelling at carlson about.
how many pitchers do you see throw at catchers?
maybe posada was saying” throw at arod or jeter. i’m a catcher and i’m already in a bad mood “.
i’m joking partly , but seriously how many catchers do you see get thrown at for retaliation?
Random question-
Is there a locker room celebration when the Yankees clinch the post season spot? Or is it only when they clinch the division?
Just another overhyped mountain out of a molehill incident. The Yankees won’t see the Jays again until spring training after tonight
There no point in making a spectacle out of one game before leaving for Seattle.
I can’t get away from hearing about this brawl. I went outside to grab lunch a little while ago and 2 guys were on the side of my building chatting. As I passed I overheard “did you see Arod last night? Just standing on the outside jumping up and down and looking like a pansy”. I almost yelled something back but I was with a co-worker so I refrained. I agree Pete, people who think this way are idiotic.
I doubt it Erica. Not the way the Yankees handle things. I was wondering that this morning.
“i’m joking partly , but seriously how many catchers do you see get thrown at for retaliation?”
And when you do throw at a catcher, you hit them in the head or throw a broken bat at them. Clemens taught us that.
It does look pretty bad that A-Rod was on the sidelines for this fight while the rest of the team was involved. He’s gotta be better than that and protect his team.
“Chris – the problem with a rule where you can’t leave the bench is that it the poo-poo hit the fan, the batter would be virtually alone on the field against nine opponents. Unless there’s anyone on base. You can’t really count the base coaches, who are middle-aged or older, against younger and probably stronger athletes who already out number them significantly.
Granted the batter has a weapon in his hands (his bat) but you don’t want to leave a guy only that angle to protect himself. At least in the NBA there are five guys on each team on the court to sort it out evenly.”
Really? You’re worried about the safety of the batter? This is a baseball game not a war. If things get that bad with players actually beating someone, there are tons of security guards around.
If you’re really that concerned, then expand the penalty to anyone that leaves their defensive position.
I can’t believe how stupid some people are. These people have probably never played a team sport since high school. I do not want my star players fighting. Sure a bench clearing brawl is exciting and fun to watch but I’d rather watch the Red Sox and Angels go toe to toe than the Yankees and the hapless Jays.
They won’t celebrate clinching a playoff spot. They will celebrate winning the division.
If for no other reason, to produce more “championship” merchandise to sell.
There is no way a guy with a surgically repaired hip should be in the middle of a brawl.
Honestly, do some people even think before writing such nonsense.
The LAST thing this team needs is Arod getting hurt in a fight.
There isn’t a guy on the team that is unhappy with Arod for not diving into the pile last night.
That would have been dumber than Jorge throwing the elbow and that wasn’t the smartest thing to do last night.
I for one am glad Alex didn’t get himself mixed up in the scrum. He is still recovering from hip surgery. Imagine if he got caught on the bottom of the pile?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....dded#t=566
At the rate we’re going and Boston is going. we may not even clinch the division. Or it may be on the final weekend of the season.
not wanting to change the subject here (actually i do) but has anyone seen just how quietly the redsox pitching is rounding into postseason form?…..
…..and the yankee rotation is doing the opposite? ..and I’m not even counting the mitre and white flag bullpen members – i’m talking about Aj, pettite’s shoulder, robertson’s elbow, marte turning back into a pumpkin, coke being shaky and even aceves surrendering the yogurt more often than we’d like….
not good signs…
SJ44
September 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
They won’t celebrate clinching a playoff spot. They will celebrate winning the division.
If for no other reason, to produce more “championship” merchandise to sell.
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Just wondering. I remember a big locker room celebration in 2007 when they clinched the Wild Card. But I wasn’t sure if that was only because at that point the Yankees had almost no hope of catching the division.
2009 would be different because they are expected to win the division
They won’t celebrate clinching a playoff spot. They will celebrate winning the division.
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And if memory serves, even that is fairly muted compared to other teams. Winning the division is hardly the goal.
Really? Both teams are 7-3 in their last 10 games.
You mean that playing .700 ball over 10 games isn’t good enough to win? Ok, whatever you say.
“I doubt it Erica. Not the way the Yankees handle things. I was wondering that this morning.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. Pies after walk-offs, mock courts, WWF belts and loud music in the clubhouse were also ‘not the way the Yankees handle things’. The collective personality of this team is of joy and having a good time. If the players want a party, there will be one.
“It does look pretty bad that A-Rod was on the sidelines for this fight while the rest of the team was involved. He’s gotta be better than that and protect his team.”
Would you rather he act like a tough guy and hurt his hip or stay out of it and stay healthy? I believe he’s had 2 walk off hits this year and both times he came out of the pile grabbing his hip.
Patrick,
Most people aren’t “vilifying” Carlson.
What they are saying is that he played a role in this.
That’s it.
At his point, it’s more accurate to say you are vilifying Posada.
Stop using Muhlanson until he can throw strikes,
randy
When I first saw Posada go past Carlson I thought Carlson seemed to move his glove towards Posada in a way that was meant to irritate.
When I watched the replay, Posada’s elbow came up after he was past the glove which makes me believe Carlson did make a slight attempt to spark something.
That being said I wish Posada had shown restraint.
These teams have a history of some bad blood that goes back at least to the game Arod yelled as he went behind the 3rd baseman.
Marte has had one bad outing since he has returned. Pettitte being held out for precautionary reasons. That’s what you do when you have a big lead.
Robertson begins his throwing program today.
Ace pitched well in his last outing, as has Coke.
CC has been dominant. Joba was much better the other night, and the back end of the bullpen is still lights out.
The one problem is AJ. That’s a concern.
Dice-K had one outing. Let’s not declare him “back” just yet.
Beckett has been awful the second half. Wakefield is still hurt. Buchholz has shown he can beat Toronto and Baltimore and not much else. Paul Byrd is in their rotation.
Their only really fearful starting pitcher at this point is Jon Lester.
I hardly see how their pitching is up to form.
Posada’s wife was on the Wendy Williams show this morning and she talked about the fight and she seemed to think Jorge was in the wrong…
http://www.wendyshow.com/2009/.....ada_fight/
A-Rod in the middle of that heap would not have been a good idea.
I think most people are happy he didn’t get himself hurt.
Edwar wins the “looks like sheer madness” prize. Even though it appears he was just trying to get the catcher out of there.
“Just wondering. I remember a big locker room celebration in 2007 when they clinched the Wild Card. But I wasn’t sure if that was only because at that point the Yankees had almost no hope of catching the division.”
They did celebrate when they won the Wild Card.
I don’t think taking time to enjoy a great accomplishment like winning the division would be wrong. I think the mentality of “this doesn’t mean anything because its not the World Series” can be overbearing.
Pete, I agree that the ball wasn’t close to hitting Jorge…..but if he had missed, it would have come very close. I think Jorge is at fault for the most part, so I’m not even putting most of the blame on Carlson…..
Marie September 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Posada’s wife was on the Wendy Williams show this morning and she talked about the fight and she seemed to think Jorge was in the wrong…
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Doesn’t she have a reality show too? Will she be addressing it then as well?
Loved seeing Edwar grab Barajas by the chest protector and drag him LOL
found it:
Christina25 August 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Jim
You are right. I do not have a son. hahaha
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what’s the deal?
holy Laura Posada..She shouldnt even bother wearing a shirt… Why is she doing all these interviews? Is she trying to be a somebody?
“At his point, it’s more accurate to say you are vilifying Posada.”
Posada was 100% responsible for the incident. Carlson didn’t instigate anything.
I agree Jason. I hate the “World Series or bust” mentality.
Its talk show nonsense and nothing more.
This team didn’t make the playoffs last year and most “experts” picked them third again in the division this year.
If they win the division and finish with the best record in baseball, that’s a cause for celebration.
It won’t be the team isn’t going to be focused for the post-season.
It means they should celebrate over a job well done over 162 games.
“It does look pretty bad that A-Rod was on the sidelines for this fight while the rest of the team was involved. He’s gotta be better than that and protect his team.”
To quote the late Michael Jackson taken from the spoken word part of that classic composition ” Ebony and Ivory “….
“I’m a lover not a fighter”
Seriously though, who cares?
Pettitte’s fine. He’s being skipped to save the Yankees some money. LOL.
Pete, it was not an off speed pitch. It was a 90 MPH 4 seam fastball according to gameday.
Are fans calling into Francesca actually suggesting that Alex should have been in the middle of that scrum? Hmm, if so, I guess the old expression is true – you can’t go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
I should have mentioned that if you watch that video of Laura Posada, she doesn’t talk about having to keep Jorge in check until the very end, so you have to watch the whole thing (it’s probably 3 minutes or so long).
http://www.wendyshow.com/2009/.....ada_fight/
Even though Jorge’s agent told her that it was completely justified, she didn’t seem to think so by what she was saying.
SJ44,
I agree with your assessment of the Yankees pitching staff. Your opinion of the Red Sox pitchers obviously has a Yankee slant to it but you make a good point that they aren’t without question marks.
I think the Red Sox pitching will be pretty good in the postseason but no better than New York’s.
Cito’s quote nailed it
“I don’t know if that was too smart. They have a lot more to lose than we do,” Blue Jays manager Cito Gaston said.
It’s been said many times, by different people, but I’ll say it again.
If the Yanks go 8-8 the rest of the year, the Sox would have to go 16-3. Neither of those things are going to happen. The Yanks will be better than .500 and the Sox wont push to catch the Yanks because it’s a useless exercise. They’ll start resting their players soon to get ready for the post season.
I think the Jays are going to retalitate tonight, but they have nothing to lose – the Yankees must not react (unless they think being macho is more important than being healthy for the post-season).
SMH. Only love conquers hate when will they learn
Gaudin has pretty suspect control anyway
# Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock September 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
holy Laura Posada..She shouldnt even bother wearing a shirt… Why is she doing all these interviews? Is she trying to be a somebody?
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Agreed about the skimpy shirt.
I think she might have been on the show to promote her childrens foundation and educate people about the birth defect.
“holy Laura Posada..She shouldnt even bother wearing a shirt”
that’s just terrible. i’d better check it out to see how terrible.
that posada family sure is being a problem lately.
Patrick,
Beckett turning it around for the Red Sox is huge for their chances. If he can’t, they are sunk.
They don’t hit well on the road and an injured Wakefield, Dice-K and Buchholz can’t be reasonable alternatives to a solid #2 guy behind Lester.
If Beckett turns it around, they are tough.
If not, the Angels will beat them.
AJ is key to the Yankees hopes because if AJ is on, their lineup is much better than Boston’s and they will score more runs than the Red Sox on the road, IMO.
If AJ isn’t on, it becomes a struggle because the bullpen will have to work a lot of innings in each series.
Laura Posada is the founder of the “Wives club” and it has bonded the team together.
She can wear whatever she wants.
WOW Mrs. Posada looks good
I’m not a big fan of the “fake” look but she is a really pretty woman. Way to go Jorge
“Girardi needs to stop pitching Melancon because Melancon can’t get anyone out. Its obvious that he is not a long term contributor to our bullpen. I hope they can trade him in the offseason.”
Only an idiot would have wanted Alex involved in that brawl. Alex clearly wanted no part of it and rightfully so.
Can’t say anything bad about Posada’s or Damon’s wife
“Posada was 100% responsible for the incident. Carlson didn’t instigate anything.”
Right. Posada was dumb about it, but certainly not 100% responsible.
Somebody please cover up Mrs. Posada.
Talk about the children seeing daddy fight. What about seeing mommy dressed like a 17 year-old Jersey girl?
“that’s just terrible. i’d better check it out to see how terrible.”
Yeah randy it was awful. Simply awful.
I love the Wives’s Club… it’s like we’re back in high school again, except it is applied to the rich and elite. I think it is great.
It’s ok for fans to be happy with just making the playoffs. I mean that too, I’m not being sarcastic. But the media and the players themselves will not be happy if they dont at least make the World Series. And considering the talent they have on the team, I think that’s how they should feel.
Sj44,
Agree 100% with that assessment. Although both guys are extremely important, the Red Sox need Beckett to be great more than the Yankees need Burnett to do the same.
Laura Posada = VERY NICE!
Posada’s wife is a “head turner” as Laura likes to say
Patrick September 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
“that’s just terrible. i’d better check it out to see how terrible.”
Yeah randy it was awful. Simply awful.
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men… Gotta love the plastic.
Eff the plastic, it’s nasty.
Laura Posada said that Minka texted her to ask her if she’s alright?
I thought the Post said that Minka is excluded from the other wives
just checked out the laura posada interview. sharp lady. well spoken. an attorney. lives in florida with their kids where clothing standards are a bit different than the northeast.
the only thing i’ll say is all moms think it’s your fault if you’re in a fight. whatever.
Regarding celebrating winning the division: they better. Last year I’m sure taught the vets to value these opportunity.
And there are plenty of guys who haven’t had their taste (can’t wait to watch Swisher).
And it doesn’t represent a sense of satisfaction, it represents an understanding that goal one has been reached.
Like a HS grad party. It’s not the end of a journey, it’s to acknowledge a successful step completed in the path.
What’s wrong with being made of plastic?
I prefer that to the “All Natural” Kate Hudson.
sj44 – you are entitled to your opinion and i respect that – but beckett’s last 2 starts have been what experts define as “quality starts”, lester as their #2 blows right by our #2 (AJ), buchholtz’s 7 out of last 8 starts have been “quality starts” (with 2 of the 7 against tampa and 1 against the yankees), yes its only 1 start but dice k looked pretty good last night – and he would be their 4th starter, our 4th starter hasn’t had a quality start in almost 2 months..
this is what i mean by “rounding into form” i’m not looking at the W/L records and i’m not looking at the offense side..
even without the fatigued shoulder pettite has had 5 quality starts in the last 8 (buchholtz has had 7)….so what robertson is throwing tomorrow – what does that guarantee….there is no one in the redsox bullpen with a “barking elbow”, are you ready to trust marte or coke in an absolute “gotta get him out” situation?
so i stand by what i’ve said…not good signs….that doesn’t mean i think they’ll lose…all i’m saying is it won’t be as easy playing the redsox as some might think…
She is promoting her and Jorge’s new fitness book.
While the World Series or bust mentality by Yankees fans is tiresome, I think this may be the last chance for this core group of players to win the championship.
They have been blessed by unsually good health and terrific seasons from their aging players – Jeter, Damon, Posada, A-Rod.
Damon is having a career year at 36. Jeter is having one of his best seasons, again at 35.
Matsui is having a solid season, but he will obviously not be back next season. Damon? It’s still unsure whether he will resign.
You can’t count on this kind of performance again from players in the mid to late 30s. You just can’t.
The stars have aligned in many ways for the team this season.
It’s unreasonable for the everyday fan to demand their team win the World Series every year – no matter the payroll.
But in the next five years there may not be a better chance to win it all than right now.
I hate the “World Series or bust” mentality.
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How bout the “World Series or I’m mildly disappointed but will get over it after a night’s sleep” mentality?
Honestly, It’s been such a fun season. How can anyone possibly complain?
And I was skeptical at the beginning of the season with the new stadium and the early struggles but now? Kudos to the organization. A grade-A product.
Agree Bronx Jeers. A lot of positives this year for us NYY fans. The Mets are the opposite. Just perusing the list of free agent pitchers next year. A weak class only Lee, Lackey, Bedard are the big names…. Pettitte, but I am assuming he returns for 1 year.
francessa is right but sometimes you just cant let it go.emotions get the best of you.
absolutely stupid to do with the rs playing red hot
we are lucky nobody got hurt that we know about.
scrap the mitre test & lets take this race seriously & stop plying with the lineup.
play our best players wich all of a sudden girrardi is forced to do know as we are seeing
Bronx Jeers-
I am with you.
I want to go to a Yankee Parade, however my world will still turn if we don’t make it that far. There is far too much other stuff in this universe that i can control that is much more worthy of me worrying over.
On that note, are there actually people in this world who say “At least we won the 2009 AL East” and are totally content with that? Cause if so, then why is 2007-2006 considered such a bust?
“men… Gotta love the plastic.”
christina-
as you can tell from our baseball brawl opinions today men as a group don’t agree on anything any more than women do.
i’m glad you pointed out the video though. laura posada seems like a sharp woman.
The whole quality start thing is some total BS. 6 innings 3 runs is a 4.5 ERA, oh yeah, that’s real quality.
I don’t agree at all the notion that the Red Sox need Beckett to perform well more than the Yankees need Burnett.
I think it’s every bit as important for the Yankees that Burnett pitch well in the playoffs.
Burnett was signed with the intention of being a solid No. 2 behind Sabbathia. He’s been anything but.
He leads the league in walks and wild pitches. His probability for a one-inning implosion is greater than any other pitcher slotted into a postseason pitching rotation.
He can’t pitch like he has over the past month if the Yankees are going to win the World Series. Giving up six runs in an inning won’t cut it when the Yankees have to face Edwin Jackson or Jon Lester – or even Clay Buchholz.
The Yankees won’t be facing any Brian Tallets.
To hope that Burnett limits the damage for a couple of innings and you can just caddy him by using Aceves or burning out other bullpen arms is not a recipe for postseason success.
Burnett’s performance is an intergral part of whether the Yankees have success in the postseason.
You can’t hide him, like it or not.
Yeah I totally forgot that Posada’s wife is an attorney. That’s pretty impressive and a nice story that they met before Jorge was rolling in dough.
Honestly when I commented about her looks I was more talking about her face, hair, accent, etc. She is very pretty and personally I’m not a big fan of the plastic.
rconn23
means nothing
the yankees can bring in players to replace the core
the rs have tek,drew,wake,lowell,orti,bay is a fa,becket soon to be a fa & i dont see any position players coming through the farm system for them or many pitchers
parick- agree with all your above comments about laura posada.
the only reason i mention that is that i agree with everything you say in a post so infrequently
“His probability for a one-inning implosion is greater than any other pitcher slotted into a postseason pitching rotation.”
Really? And you can prove this how? This is utter and complete nonsense.
I’d love to see the charts you made up with all of the probably postseason starters and the probability that they’ll have a blowup.
Burnett is what he is, a guy who’s as capable of throwing a no hitter as he is of getting bombed.
But to say that he has a higher probability of a meltdown than every other postseason starter is rhetoric and nonsense.
“Kristin, a publicist with good timing, sends word that Jorge’s foundation is having an on-line auction that ends tomorrow.
You can get a glove signed by Jorge,”
That would be a signed boxing glove, I assume?
Haha very nice randy, thanks.
RE: Fans wanting Jeter/A-rod to fight -
Maybe fans are getting caught up in the beginning of the football season. I know you all love football but this isn’t the NFL. A-rod played it smart staying out of the fight.
Pete: did you really expect to find signs of intelligent life in the callers to Francesa’s show?
“Posada’s wife is a “head turner” as Laura likes to say ”
I’m at work so I can’t see how my name sake is dressed. My motto is if you have it and it still looks good, flaunt it tastefully. Hopefully, that’s what Mrs. Posada is doing.
If you go back and look at videos of last night, when the benches emptied after the pitch was thrown, Rodriguez was at the front, around the plate and Jeter was at the far left rear of the camera shot. It was reversed on the second bench clearing.
As far as how Laura Posada is dressed….give it a rest. You see more at the beaches than that…by females from the ages of 12 to 60.
I have a suggestion to have 3 designated brawlers for each MLB team. This would prevent players emptying the benches.
And here is how the 3 would be selected. One from each of the following category.
1) a pitcher
2) the offense
3) the bench
My choices for the Designated Yankee Brawlers:
1) CC, he is so large no one would mess with him and he would not get hurt
2) Probably Swish – he could do tumbling stunts
3) Who else but Shelly Duncan
Silly? Maybe so, but so is this to do over a fight and all the press on it.
GB7-
What kind of beaches do you hang out on
Beckett or no Beckett, the only chance that the Angels have against the Sox is Kazmir because he pitches well against the Sox. If Kazmir shuts down the Sox, the Angels have a chance. If not, it will be another sweep for the Sox.
This fight stuff is really hilarious. I don’t care what the Jays do tonight, the Yankees must refuse the bait. The Jays will be golfing in a few weeks. They are a terrible team and they have nothing to lose by getting into a brawl against the Yankees. The Yankees have absolutely nothing to gain by getting into another brawl.
The Yankees have to move beyond this distraction. If they could deal with the A-Rod mess at the beginning of the year, it should be easy for them to get by these pests known as the Jays.
Does anyone know if Farnsworth is available??
bru,
It doesn’t mean “nothing.”
You don’t just replace players like Jeter, Posada and Damon, nor is it reasonable to expect the same level of production from them next year.
Could it happen? Sure. But it’s not likely.
The only free agents available next year are either questionable (Figgins) or will be over 30 and require high dollar, multi-year deals (Holliday and Bay).
That’s something the Yankees want to stay away from.
we have to win the game or have a chance to when burnett pitches.
thats all
i think joba is going to be a bigger factor than people like sj44 think
he seems to pitch better in big games
“I think the Jays are going to retalitate tonight, but they have nothing to lose – the Yankees must not react (unless they think being macho is more important than being healthy for the post-season).”
Betsy,
Get real, it’s done with for now.
Laura: Depends on what your definition of “tastefully” is. If I had it I dont think I would flaunt it nearly as much as she did. But then again, I could always pay the money she paid for hers to try it out. I guess you never know. You know most people were looking down rather than up as they watched that video.
“His probability for a one-inning implosion is greater than any other pitcher slotted into a postseason pitching rotation.
Really? And you can prove this how? This is utter and complete nonsense. ”
I can’t speak to the one inning implosions, but he has had far more horrible outings this season than CC, Andy or Joba. If you look at the breakdown of the runs allowed, AJ has more 0, 1, and 2 runs games (which is good) but also more 5+ run games (which is bad) than the other starters.
It’s too early to worry about how AJ pitches in the playoffs.
To me, right now it’s time to stop and smell the roses. The Yanks are going to have the best record in baseball and win the AL East. They are going to win 100+ games and I never imagined that would happen back in the spring. It’s been a fun year, better than we Yanks fans have experienced in quite a while.
Let’s worry about the playoffs when they get here.
Erica – always OPPC
September 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
GB7-
What kind of beaches do you hang out on
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Any beach that will let me on it, Erica.
# Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock September 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
men… Gotta love the plastic.
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What’s wrong with that?
I just overhead Jackie Chiles voicing his opinion on Posada-gate.
I heard him say: “I am outraged! This is lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!!!”
“I can’t speak to the one inning implosions, but he has had far more horrible outings this season than CC, Andy or Joba. If you look at the breakdown of the runs allowed, AJ has more 0, 1, and 2 runs games (which is good) but also more 5+ run games (which is bad) than the other starters.”
Still doesn’t mean he has a higher probability of a one inning meltdown than every other playoff starter.
# Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock September 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Laura: Depends on what your definition of “tastefully” is. If I had it I dont think I would flaunt it nearly as much as she did. But then again, I could always pay the money she paid for hers to try it out. I guess you never know. You know most people were looking down rather than up as they watched that video.
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ahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahhhahahah
MEOW!
I agree that the Yankees need to keep their focus here. They can’t afford to handicap themselves by getting in trouble. It doesn’t really matter who started it or whether someone deserved the “retaliation”–Posada is going to get a 5 day break. I am not even sure that he will be the only one penalized (imagine if the team loses more than one player, or even starter, in this mess!). There is no time left to appeal. With only 13 games left, Posada will definitely miss the entire LA series, or the entire Boston series, or a few of each. Sure, they’ll make do, but I am sure that team will miss him in the lineup and on the bench. At least when he is given a day of or so, he is still a threat off the bench! It would really be a shame if this stupid incident with a second rate team in a relatively meaningless game ends up costing the Division Title and Home Field Advantage.
“Really? And you can prove this how? This is utter and complete nonsense.”
Uh, been watching the season much, ray? It’s not “rhetoric and nonsense.”
He leads the league and walks and wild pitches. Which part of that don’t you understand?
His number of implosions have been documented, including three awaful performances at Fenway this year.
Name a pitcher that will be in a postseason rotation that has as much trouble finding the plate on a consistent basis than Burnett.
Does he have the stuff to pitch a no-hitter? Sure. In fact, he already has – with the Marlins. And know what? He walked nine batters while doing it.
Think that will work in the playoffs?
He’s the classic – million dollar arm, five-cent head – case.
He’s even said he loses focus for an inning or two..That’s Burnett talking, not me.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
” You see more at the beaches than that…by females from the ages of 12 to 60.”
gb7-
living on the beach in florida for years, i could never figure out how hooters made it down there.
i once had a beach v-ball store in sarasota and we sold trendy women’s swimsuits. when i opened a similar store on cape cod the next summer, the northeastern women wouldn’t buy the florida suits because they thought them too revealing.
it’s just a whole different standard down there because they are on the beach so much.
rconn23
a lot of things play in like getting better at other positions to compensate & pitching.
arod had an off year & we survived
it is about pitching & pitching debth
if we sign becket wich i am not saying we will but a rotation of
cc
becket
burnett
joba
hughes
& if we can smartly replace the older players we will be fine
What about Edwar pulling whoever it was off the scrum???
I thought I saw Jeter and Alex in the fray.
That fight was unfortunate. People are relieved that there were no injuries. BUT at this point we don’t know this for sure.
I really do think Jorge regrets it a lot!
“Uh, been watching the season much, ray? It’s not “rhetoric and nonsense.”
He leads the league and walks and wild pitches. Which part of that don’t you understand?
His number of implosions have been documented, including three awaful performances at Fenway this year.
Name a pitcher that will be in a postseason rotation that has as much trouble finding the plate on a consistent basis than Burnett.
Does he have the stuff to pitch a no-hitter? Sure. In fact, he already has – with the Marlins. And know what? He walked nine batters while doing it.
Think that will work in the playoffs?
He’s the classic – million dollar arm, five-cent head – case.
He’s even said he loses focus for an inning or two..That’s Burnett talking, not me.”
To say a guy has a higher probability of a one inning meltdown than EVERY other playoff starter is nonsense.
There’s no way to quantify the probability of a one inning meltdown. I don’t care what he’s down during the season.
Ever watch Kenny Rogers pitch in a big game before 2006?
It’s utter and complete nonsense. Ask Jeff Weaver. Ask any other bum pitcher that has ever pitched a great playoff game.
UTTER and COMPLETE NONSENSE.
Mrs Posada may be attractive, but she’s really not pretty.
Wasn’t that the reason why she got them in the first place though? So that we would look down rather than up?
# Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock September 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
holy Laura Posada..She shouldnt even bother wearing a shirt… Why is she doing all these interviews? Is she trying to be a somebody?
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Now that you mention it, here’ one of Laura technically NOT wearing a shirt.
http://umpbump.com/press/wp-co.....osada1.jpg
randy l.
September 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
” You see more at the beaches than that…by females from the ages of 12 to 60.”
gb7-
living on the beach in florida for years, i could never figure out how hooters made it down there.
i once had a beach v-ball store in sarasota and we sold trendy women’s swimsuits. when i opened a similar store on cape cod the next summer, the northeastern women wouldn’t buy the florida suits because they thought them too revealing.
it’s just a whole different standard down there because they are on the beach so much.
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Georgia isn’t much different. You can go to any mall in Savannah, and see 15 year olds wearing less than Mrs. Posada had on. It apparently doesn’t bother the parents too much, since they allow it. Then, too, I’ve seen the same thing in Texas, Chicago, California, St. Louis.
And, then you have some clowns that insist that they’d never be caught with somebody like Laura Posada “because she’s fake”, but, you can always spot them by their bibs they wear because of excess drooling. If women or men, for that matter, want to improve their looks and can afford it, good for them. They don’t have an issue with woment wearing makeup and girdles. Same thing, as far as I’m concerned.
You know part of last night’s meeting was a stern warning not to retaliate, react, or instigate during tonight’s game.
No news yet? Are we having a Jorge Posada suspension contest?
I’m torn. I’ve never seen a 4 day suspension, 5′s too much in my mind but seems like the standard. 3 seems not enough. Help?
raymagnetic
becket can get bombed,lester,dice,wake,clay & all of them have
the past means nothing.
it is about
cc vs becket
lester vs burnett
dice/clay/wake vs pettitte
dice/wake/clay vs joba
anything can happen
most of it will come down to the pen
Totally uncool how that scrub pitcher threw at Jorgie. I know that we hit them earlier but you can’t tell me that Melancon was trying to hit Hill. Clearly that ball got away from him. I know that there is a time for restraint and a time for action. Pick your spot tonight and drill one into Lind’s lower back. We’ve got to prove that we’ve got Po’s back.
Lay odds on it, and Burnett is the guy you take.
Try to rationalize it anyway you want to ray, but facts are facts.
Burnett leads the league in walks, by a very wide margin. He can’t find the plate. Simple as that. He leads the league in wild pitches.
That same wildness has led to several meltdowns this year, three of them at Fenway.
Could Burnett throw a good game? Sure. As a Yankee fan, I hope he can finally find the strike zone consistently.
But there is no other pitcher slotted for a postseason pitching spot, who has a higher probability to meltdown – given his walks and wildness – than Burnett.
Just the way it is.
Plastic’s fine if you can get it. I would suspect that half the guys here are happily married and the other half will never see plastic.
Uncle Ellsworth (be nice, until it’s not time to be nice) September 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Mrs Posada may be attractive, but she’s really not pretty.
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Say what?
She’s friggin awesome!!!
Please, don’t be a playa hata
The thought actually occured to me that the Yanks themselves may fine Jorgie – just a thought.
this is a fine line – Girardi wants the fire – but only to a certain extent
Was I wrong about Edwar?
bru
September 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
” . . i think joba is going to be a bigger factor than people like sj44 think
he seems to pitch better in big games” . . .
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Good point Bru. Agree.
meant rconn23 not raymagnetic
3-4 games should be the limit on Posada. Not only did Carllson instigate it with the throw, but, went beyond that by cutting off Posada’s route to the dugout by standing there instead of retreating behind the plate. Posada didn’t exactly give Carllson a forearmed shiver to the head as a few on here and the writers lead you to believe. They should be happy now, because, at least they don’t have to invent stories. Jorge gave them some fodder for weeks.
m September 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Plastic’s fine if you can get it. I would suspect that half the guys here are happily married and the other half will never see plastic.
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That’s completely untrue.
Most men have date before marriage. I mean even college age Hooter waitresses have augmentation.
christina-
just watched some of the video on your blog.
in a courtroom when assault cases are prosecuted one thing the judge is looking at is where the altercation takes place.
posada ran ten steps past home plate on his way to HIS dugout. carlson pursued him to that spot . carlson had no reason to do that exceptto cause trouble.
if it was in a court of law carlson wold have some explaining to do what he was doing in yankee territory pursuing posada.
and don’t ask me how i know judges are interested in how people get to the location of where altercations take place
if cc wins game one & pettitte game 3 with joba going in game 4 it might not matter what burnett does
Sorry, Tunnel, didn’t realize that. Where I live only the trophy wives, strippers, and trannies get breast augmentation.
Uncle Ellsworth (be nice, until it’s not time to be nice),
When will we know when it’s time?
rconn,
There’s simply no way you can say one guy is going to have a greater probability than any other guy to have a meltdown inning.
Since I’m sure Burnett won’t have the highest ERA of all of the playoff starters in baseball then I’m also sure there are other guys who have a higher probability than Burnett to have a meltdown, or simply pitch worse than he does.
randy l.
September 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
christina-
just watched some of the video on your blog.
in a courtroom when assault cases are prosecuted one thing the judge is looking at is where the altercation takes place.
posada ran ten steps past home plate on his way to HIS dugout. carlson pursued him to that spot . carlson had no reason to do that exceptto cause trouble.
if it was in a court of law carlson wold have some explaining to do what he was doing in yankee territory pursuing posada.
and don’t ask me how i know judges are interested in how people get to the location of where altercations take place
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Don’t tell me that you accosted a customer for trying to pinch one of your bran muffins and got arrested, Randy.
did pete fall asleep? where is the lineup?
m September 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Sorry, Tunnel, didn’t realize that. Where I live only the trophy wives, strippers, and trannies get breast augmentation.
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God Bless strippers! They have so much dexterity. In many ways, they’re like Olympic athletes.
Jorge’s suspension will be like a Vodka Gibson.
One is too many and two isn’t enough.
If you have the money for plastic, go for it.
Just like it may not be right for the Yankees to spend so much more than any other team, but they have the ability to do it, so why not take advantage of that?
Plastic is fine.
carlson ran right up to posada.
posada was just saying get out of my path
stupid by posada yes but carlson should of not been in posadas path or near it not even looking at or for the ball
Lineup from Sweeny: Jeter Hairston-lf Teixeira Arod Matsui Swisher Cano Cabrera Molina. Gaudin vs lhp brian tallet
Ah, I see. So your definition of a “date” involves acrobatics.
Molina AND Hairston in the lineup?
We ain’t winning this game.
I hope fragile Damon isn’t hurt again. He hits .348 against Tallet surprising not to see him in the lineup. Also too bad Posada’s suspension can’t start today since he isn’t even in the lineup.
William Buckner
September 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Uncle Ellsworth (be nice, until it’s time not to be nice),
When will we know when it’s time?
You will know.
(btw it is a quote from Roadhouse)
The longer Posada is suspended, the more rested he is for the playoffs. It really doesn’t matter, folks.
“If you have the money for plastic, go for it.”
Spoken like a true plastic surgeon.
Mark September 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
If you have the money for plastic, go for it.
Just like it may not be right for the Yankees to spend so much more than any other team, but they have the ability to do it, so why not take advantage of that?
Plastic is fine.
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Some people are natural endowed. Some people aren’t.
Nothing wrong in wanting to fill out your frame.
After all, guys do the same thing. They go to the gym and lift weights and build some definition.
That’s pretty generous and inventive of Girardi to play without a shortstop. It gets Teixeira and Rodriguez to the plate more often. Pure genius.
Again, I’m at work so I’m not following the thread completely, but where exactly was Laura Posada that she was flashing people? Is this some interview that’s up on YesNetwork.com?
Tired of talking about this but there is a reason one team is in first and the other in fourth. Aggressive play and oh yeah money!
Wave,
Forget about talking logic today.
Don’t you realize, its a “must win” game today.
Molina AND Hairston in the lineup?
We ain’t winning this game.
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If 7 power hitters cannot beat the jays, the yankees are in far worse shape tha anyone will admit.
We get it… you didn’t like the fight… in fact you hated it.
Get over it already, damn.
Annoying.
Laura
September 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Again, I’m at work so I’m not following the thread completely, but where exactly was Laura Posada that she was flashing people? Is this some interview that’s up on YesNetwork.com?
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She was on some TV show today, Laura. I assume that it was one of the gossip shows. Amazing that it would be a guy that found it.
Laura-
there is a link at the post from 2:34. Laura Posada was on some “Wendy” show and was asked about Jorge’s fight last night. She seems very sweet.
m September 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Ah, I see. So your definition of a “date” involves acrobatics.
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Something like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiXCRnJs6o
Joe G on Fran.
says he took an elbow from his own player -that is where the left eye injury casme from.
Chris was correct about McDonald not being the one hitting Girardi. Joe just said it was one of his own players that elbowed him in the face.
“there is a link at the post from 2:34. Laura Posada was on some “Wendy” show and was asked about Jorge’s fight last night. She seems very sweet.”
It was probably the Wendy Williams show. It’s very TMZ.
“Joe just said it was one of his own players that elbowed him in the face.”
My money is on Joba.
Mines on Shelley Duncan
“It was probably the Wendy Williams show. It’s very TMZ.”
someone posted a link above
she got a text from Minka re fight
thinks Alex is Hot, can’t confrim that Kate has moved in
Heaven help me
“Joe just said it was one of his own players that elbowed him in the face.”
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So I guess John McDonald was horrified for nothing.
he called him mike mcdonald…the same guy who took jeter out a few years ago
“Don’t tell me that you accosted a customer for trying to pinch one of your bran muffins and got arrested, Randy.”
gb7-
no, i kinda sorta knocked a master’s type snooty golf writer who poked his finger in my chest on the the first tee of a tournament down the hill .
it wouldn’t have been so bad because there were no witnesses who would say anything until he came back and poked me again and dared me to do it again in front of the club pro.
the second time he went down the hill was the tricky one explaining to the judge.
it wasn’t so bad though because they dropped the charges after i spent four saturdays at the sarasota pelican man’s bird sanctuary helping wounded pelicans.
dont know who it was in here who said yankee fans are too fragile due to recent past failures and dont expect to win.
i can feel that in here, with andy being “hurt.”
not time to panic, even if gaudin gets bombed tonite, and sox beat LA again.
talk to me after the west coast trip.
Pete,
2 Points
1) You keep making a big deal out of this being a “off speed pitch” but if you watch the replay the pitch was clocked at 89 mph, inless Carlson throws a Joba slider, I wouldn’t call that an “off=speed pitch”
2) The umpire calling what Posada did a “cheap shop” “dirty play” and “very unspormanlike” is about as comparable as throwing a ball at someone
Look I understand it shouldn’t ahve escilated into what it did, but it seems like the team has had some built up frustration over this mini slump I hope they got it all out, everyone is making WAY WAY too big a deal out of this.
-My opinion
“he called him mike mcdonald…the same guy who took jeter out a few years ago”
I thought he was referring to the former lead singer of the Doobie Brothers.
no that was michael mcdonald
is anybody getting a black outline after each post?
Don’t know what kind of a fighter A-rod is, but I hear he can slap a mean ball down.
Uh…while I appreciate the recap of how many hit by pitches we have delivered this month…wouldn’t it be appropriate to look at the entire picture, Pete? Can we look at what has happened all season?
Prior to September 3, 2009, the Toronto Blue Jays had hit 6 Yankee batsmen in 12 games. The Yankees retaliated, hitting no one. ZERO.
Carlson hit Gardner 5-14-09
Romero hit Arod/ Accardo hit Hinske & Damon 7-6-09
Romero hit Jeter/ Camp hit Arod 8-12-09
AND WE HIT NOT ONE BLUE JAY.
Before the start of yesterday’s game, WITH ALL OF OUR RECENT HORRIBLE HIT BY PITCHES TO POOR TORONTO, they had still out-hit our batters, by 2. I appreciate everyone being up in arms over the recent rash of HBP’s. But, honestly, when a team is willing to turn the other cheek for the majority of the season over 6 unanswered hit by pitches…when is enough, enough?
Just a parting thought. Since 2000, the Yankees have received 704 hit by pitches; leaving 120 unanswered. By comparison, the Toronto Blue Jays, for the last 3 years have recieved 144 hit by pitches, and have retaliated with 172. The standard of “rolling over and taking it,” may apply to many folks…but my guess is most of those folks have never received a 96mph fastball between the shoulders.
That was intentional. Gaudin MUST retaliate.