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	<title>Comments on: The trials and tribulations of Joba</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/09/20/the-trials-and-tribulations-of-joba/comment-page-2/#comment-1043980</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a huge Bombers fan and had high hopes for Joba, but he is more and more looking like the most over-rated and over-hyped pitcher ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge Bombers fan and had high hopes for Joba, but he is more and more looking like the most over-rated and over-hyped pitcher ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports Geek</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/09/20/the-trials-and-tribulations-of-joba/comment-page-2/#comment-1043976</link>
		<dc:creator>Sports Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Maverick (11:08pm) and Joey&#039;s Poodle (9:27am).

But, I add to that- there&#039;s 2 different dimensions of &quot;the problem&quot; at this time:
 (a) proper development of a young pitcher (which is pretty much consistent with what&#039;s right for the Yankees in the long run).. and some would argue that the Yankees have screwed up so far.
 (b) what&#039;s right for the Yankees in the short run- this season.

Clearly, (a) needs a lot of work right now.  I sure hope the Yankees are doing a lot of thinking about this right now, and over the winter.  AND, I think they need to call in a lot of resources- the best baseball minds (beyond current Yankees staff) PLUS some outside resources (psychologists? others?).

Also, I think that (b) calls for maybe not using Joba in the post season at all.  If he does extremely well in his next 2 starts prior to post-season, I might change that point of view, but because of his inconsistency, I might not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Maverick (11:08pm) and Joey&#8217;s Poodle (9:27am).</p>
<p>But, I add to that- there&#8217;s 2 different dimensions of &#8220;the problem&#8221; at this time:<br />
 (a) proper development of a young pitcher (which is pretty much consistent with what&#8217;s right for the Yankees in the long run).. and some would argue that the Yankees have screwed up so far.<br />
 (b) what&#8217;s right for the Yankees in the short run- this season.</p>
<p>Clearly, (a) needs a lot of work right now.  I sure hope the Yankees are doing a lot of thinking about this right now, and over the winter.  AND, I think they need to call in a lot of resources- the best baseball minds (beyond current Yankees staff) PLUS some outside resources (psychologists? others?).</p>
<p>Also, I think that (b) calls for maybe not using Joba in the post season at all.  If he does extremely well in his next 2 starts prior to post-season, I might change that point of view, but because of his inconsistency, I might not.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sports Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!!... I have all the hope in the world for Joba to be successful, but it seems to me he needs work both on his performance, and on his understanding of what is actually happening.

I am totally amazed at what he says in the interview.  He basically says, &quot;I pitched well, but the batters just happened to beat me on a couple of pitches.&quot;... OMG, how can he say that??!!??

Baseball is interesting and exciting because the balance between offense and defense is so close.  The difference between a winning team and a losing team is often very little.  The difference between a pitcher winning an at bat vs. the batter can often be just one pitch (refer to Mo&#039;s blown save Friday night, where 2 batters beat him on one pitch each).

The best pitchers are the ones who win those battles with the batters more than 75% of the time, and ideally better than 80% of the time (which would be a &#039;BAA-Batting Average Against&#039; of .200).  I say to Joba, &quot;go check your BAA for the last 6 weeks, then come back and tell me you have been doing great.  While you&#039;re at it, compare your BAA to CC&#039;s, to Andy&#039;s, to Mo&#039;s, to Hughes&#039;... then try to tell us you have been doing great.&quot;

I have not had the time to organize the data and then calculate for all of those pitchers, but for Joba&#039;s latest game-- .462/.500/.846/1.35  (BAA/OBP-A/SLG-A/OPS-A)
... This certainly doesn&#039;t sound like a pitcher who was getting the job done!!  Maybe he actually had good &quot;stuff&quot;, but he certainly didn&#039;t beat many batters.

((Note- these OBP-A and OPS-A figures are approximate because the regular Baseball-Reference data does not have all the info required to do a complete calculation- SF and SH data are not shown for pitchers.))

((A question for the readers of the blog-- Does anyone know if any Sabermetrician follows OPS-A = OPS-Against?  Seems that would be a very good stat to follow.. better than BAA for sure.))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!!&#8230; I have all the hope in the world for Joba to be successful, but it seems to me he needs work both on his performance, and on his understanding of what is actually happening.</p>
<p>I am totally amazed at what he says in the interview.  He basically says, &#8220;I pitched well, but the batters just happened to beat me on a couple of pitches.&#8221;&#8230; OMG, how can he say that??!!??</p>
<p>Baseball is interesting and exciting because the balance between offense and defense is so close.  The difference between a winning team and a losing team is often very little.  The difference between a pitcher winning an at bat vs. the batter can often be just one pitch (refer to Mo&#8217;s blown save Friday night, where 2 batters beat him on one pitch each).</p>
<p>The best pitchers are the ones who win those battles with the batters more than 75% of the time, and ideally better than 80% of the time (which would be a &#8216;BAA-Batting Average Against&#8217; of .200).  I say to Joba, &#8220;go check your BAA for the last 6 weeks, then come back and tell me you have been doing great.  While you&#8217;re at it, compare your BAA to CC&#8217;s, to Andy&#8217;s, to Mo&#8217;s, to Hughes&#8217;&#8230; then try to tell us you have been doing great.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have not had the time to organize the data and then calculate for all of those pitchers, but for Joba&#8217;s latest game&#8211; .462/.500/.846/1.35  (BAA/OBP-A/SLG-A/OPS-A)<br />
&#8230; This certainly doesn&#8217;t sound like a pitcher who was getting the job done!!  Maybe he actually had good &#8220;stuff&#8221;, but he certainly didn&#8217;t beat many batters.</p>
<p>((Note- these OBP-A and OPS-A figures are approximate because the regular Baseball-Reference data does not have all the info required to do a complete calculation- SF and SH data are not shown for pitchers.))</p>
<p>((A question for the readers of the blog&#8211; Does anyone know if any Sabermetrician follows OPS-A = OPS-Against?  Seems that would be a very good stat to follow.. better than BAA for sure.))</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Joba post-game interview had me yelling at my TV...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Joba post-game interview had me yelling at my TV&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BigBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@xoxo- Please tell me when Felix Hernandez started throwing left-handed..........moron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@xoxo- Please tell me when Felix Hernandez started throwing left-handed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.moron</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Bloodline</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/09/20/the-trials-and-tribulations-of-joba/comment-page-2/#comment-1043914</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankee Bloodline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would take Gaudin or dare I say it, Mitre, over Joba right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take Gaudin or dare I say it, Mitre, over Joba right now.</p>
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		<title>By: xoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Joba,Edwar, and Bruney are nowhere near postseason,they always throw runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Joba,Edwar, and Bruney are nowhere near postseason,they always throw runs.</p>
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		<title>By: xoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant, Get what they can for him!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant, Get what they can for him!!</p>
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		<title>By: xoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yankees need Felix Hernandez,Sawx want him,and according to MLBtraderumors will make a play for him,if SEA can&#039;t extent his contract.
Roy is great and 32,Felix is in his a 20&#039;s and a
southpaw and a real stopper(ACE).

Yankees need to part with JOBA,GET THEY YOU CAN.

This season is really important to all of Yankee Universe.

If he can&#039;t help when the team needs him most,while keep him around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yankees need Felix Hernandez,Sawx want him,and according to MLBtraderumors will make a play for him,if SEA can&#8217;t extent his contract.<br />
Roy is great and 32,Felix is in his a 20&#8217;s and a<br />
southpaw and a real stopper(ACE).</p>
<p>Yankees need to part with JOBA,GET THEY YOU CAN.</p>
<p>This season is really important to all of Yankee Universe.</p>
<p>If he can&#8217;t help when the team needs him most,while keep him around?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey's Poodle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey's Poodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That said, I have to add that in truth I would be happy not to see Joba on the field for the big team again this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said, I have to add that in truth I would be happy not to see Joba on the field for the big team again this year.</p>
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