Game 157: Royals at Yankees (updated with Girardi pre-game audio)
YANKEES (100-56)
New lineup
Gardner CF
Cabrera LF
Cano 2B
Posada DH
Hinske 3B
Duncan RF
Miranda 1B
Cervelli C
Pena SS
Pitching: RHP Chad Gaudin (1-0, 3.71).
ROYALS (64-92)
Maier LF
Betancourt SS
Butler 1B
Jacobs DH
Callaspo 2B
Teahen RF
Olivo C
Gordon 3B
Anderson CF
Pitching: RHP Luke Hochevar (7-11, 5.98).
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees have clinched all there is to clinch in the regular season. They are the division champs, they have the best record in the league wrapped up and they’ll have the best record in baseball.
SO WHAT IS AT STAKE? For the next seven days the Yankees will work on getting the postseason roster in order. Chad Gaudin, who pitches tonight, could make his way on as a long reliever, emergency starter. Brian Bruney helped himself a lot on Sunday but he needs to stay sharp. They’ll also have to figure out the bench.
RETURN OF ROBERTSON: RHP Dave Robertson has been cleared to pitch and you can expect to see him in the game at some point. He has been out since Sept. 5 with a sore elbow. He has 61 strikeouts in 41 innings and could play a big role in the postseason.
CASHING IN: Andy Pettitte banked an additional $750,000 when he went over the 190-inning mark. He needs 8.2 innings to get to 200 and another $750,000, which won’t be happening.
HIGH WATER: The Yankees are 44 games over .500. They have not been 45 games over since finishing 2002 with a 103-58 record.
ON THE iPOD RIGHT NOW: Night (live on Dec. 30, 1980) by Bruce Springsteen and the mighty E Street Band.
Back later with more.
UPDATE, 3:58 p.m.: The clubhouse still smells of champagne. … Phil Hughes rocking a porn star mustache these days.
UPDATE, 4:13 p.m.: They are going to wait until tomorrow to pitch Robertson.
UPDATE, 5:27 p.m.: The Yankees do not have to pick a division series until an opponent is decided. But every indication is they’ll choose the longer series that starts Oct. 7 to take advantage of the extra day off. … The team had a late report today and optional batting practice. … The staff will meet tomorrow to discuss the postseason roster. … The players and staff were invited to a celebration reception at NYY Steak tomorrow after the game by the Steinbrenner family. … A.J. Burnett is expected back tomorrow. His father’s surgery went well. … Now the bad news: It just started to rain in the Bronx.
UPDATE, 5:59 p.m.: This is a bad sign. They’re weighing down the tarp with planks of wood. That only happens when there is a storm is on the way. Meanwhile the skies in the south Bronx are darkening.
If you have tickets for tonight’s game, take your time heading out here. I’ll keep you posted right here.
UPDATE, 6:10 p.m.: It is pouring now in the Bronx. The wind also is picking up.
UPDATE, 7:06 p.m.: Lineup change. Damon out, Duncan in. It’s because of the weather.
UPDATE, 7:07 p.m.: The game is officially delayed. We’ll keep you posted.
UPDATE, 8:22 p.m.: Tarp is coming off. Looks like we will have some baseball this evening.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: First pitch at 8:55 p.m. Beats a doubleheader.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: The Yankees’ bench tonight might have a higher payroll than all but a handful of complete teams.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: We’re underway in the Bronx. Props to the Bleacher Creatures for knowing who these guys are. It’s not often you hear the “Juan Miranda” chant.
If you’re expecting blow-by-blow updates … well, I can’t promise that. But we’ll keep you apprised of what is going on here.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Bored fans doing the wave in a scoreless game in the second inning. This is going to be a long night. My story is done with the exception of the score.
UPDATE, 9:44 p.m.: Here is the audio from Girardi’s pre-game press conference. He talked about the celebration, the postseason roster and a few other topics:
UPDATE, 10:29 p.m.: The excitement is building here as the Yankees and Royals are tied 2-2 in the sixth inning. In the latest evidence that right field was meant for the Staten Island Little League team, Ramiro Pena jacked one out.
This would be the same Ramiro Pena who had five home runs in 1,518 previous at-bats as professional baseball player.
Here’s my question: If the Yankees win in a walk-off, who administers the pie?
UPDATE, 10:28 p.m.: Shelley Duncan with the RBI single. Yankees lead 3-2. The only thing better would have been had he jacked one out to see who he injured with the forearm smashes.
UPDATE, 10:46 p.m.: That was a “put me on the postseason roster” performance by Chad Gaudin. His line: 6.2 4 2 2 2 5.
UPDATE, 11:00 p.m.: Ramiro Pena is an RBI machine. Yankees lead 4-2.
UPDATE, 11:10 p.m.: Cano with a grand slam. That’ll help the RISP average. Yankees lead 8-2.













This game should be subtitled “The Hangover” starring Ramiro Pena, Francisco Cervelli and Shelley Duncan.
Don’t forget Juan Miranda, Freddy Guzman and Jose Molina playing first base maybe.
KC 9/28: Gardner CF, Cabrera RF, Damon LF, Posada DH, Cano 2B, Hinske 3B, Miranda 1B, Cervelli C, Pena SS … Gaudin RHP
Is Chad Gaudin under contract for next season?
Great song
Would be a nice gesture to give Andy the extra $ 750K. Of course it’s easy to spend other people’s money, isn’t it?!
Robertson would have to pitch three times this week to convince me to put him on the post-season roster. Command has been an issue with him anyway.
Love the way Bruney threw the ball the other day. If he gets ahead he’s really good but when he falls behind it looks like Jed Lowrie could hit him.
Saturday in the Bronx was great! It would have been nice to be there for the clincher, but a two-hit shutout with CC dominant and Mariano closing doesn’t suck!
Don’t know why they won’t call up AJax so we all could get a look at em for a week. Oh well
The NYYs as a Team may have clinched everything worth clinching, but I would still like to see CC get his 20th win. That would be a career high for him and would set the bar for the CY award.
While all of the other criteria are important, 20 wins seems to historically be the touchstone for that decision.
Robertson is the 3rd best short reliever on the team. He’ll be on the ALDS roster if he’s healthy.
“Robertson would have to pitch three times this week to convince me to put him on the post-season roster. Command has been an issue with him anyway.”
Have you been Rip Van Winkle’ing the last 2 months of the season? He is a valuable member of the bullpen who is 100% guaranteed to be on the postseason roster as long as he doesn’t complain about arm pain after his appearances this week.
Jennifer, is that real lineup? That’s better than I was hoping for.
Why are Damon, Cano, and Posada in the lineup?
Does Joe not want them to be fresh for the platoffs?
Yes that is real.
http://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo
rather see this:
Gardner CF
Hairston 2B
Hinske 3B
Duncan DH
Miranda 1B
Cabrera CF
Guzman RF
Cervelli C
Pena SS
…yeah I know Hairston is still injuried but if they could win that kind of lineup, then there’s no stopping the Yanks.
Bill, there’s a fine line in rest and getting rusty. I imagine you’ll see a makeshift lineup the next few days and then the normal lineup will play in Tampa. Cano deserves 2 days off in a row. He never gets a blow (I understand it’s because he’s so young).
Shelley Duncan has to be in the lineup.
CF Gardner
LF Cabrera
2B Cano
DH Posada
RF Duncan
3B Hinske
1B Miranda
C Cervelli
SS Pena
From what Giradi said it sounds like it will be towards the end of the week for Hairston.
Poor Andy won’t get his last performance bonus. Have to say, that contract worked out well for both sides. How often does that happen?
Beckett scratched from start in Boston with back spasms. Bowden starting.
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Spring Training Fort Myers Line-up.
86w183,
Duncan would be better off DHing instead of playing in the field. lol
Not a good few days for Boston pitchers.
“Night (live on Dec. 30, 1980) by Bruce Springsteen and the mighty E Street Band.”
Isn’t this the song that was quoted recently?
Is there a girl you’re going home to Pete?
Pete,
Do you start at theGlobe immediately or are you taking a few days to get settled in Boston?
Beckett was scratched from his start tonight. Anybody know why?
Tom in N.J. September 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Is Chad Gaudin under contract for next season?
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Yes. MLBTR has him as a free agent after 2010
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html
Wondering why Cano is in the lineup and Posada who has been somewhat hurt recently, cano has played the most games for any Yankee during the season. Oh well.
is this the 1st time cabera is batting 2nd?
Rip van Winkeling? Those three years in eleventh grade sure paid off.
Just because a guy is medically cleared to pitch doesn’t mean he’ll be sharp. The idea that he is guaranteed a spot as long as he isn’t hurting is preposterous.
You don’t have to teach me about Robertson. I was defending him when others here were throwing him under the bus. The fact is he averaged 5 walks per nine innings which is too many and he has to show that he’s healthy AND sharp.
Tom in NJ the reason is said to be mild back spasms re: the Beckett scratch.
frankly, Hinske at 3rd is the only weakness (from the defensive side) in that lineup. I think they can win this game.
Thanks Andrew.
“Let me know when you’re going to post there.”
maine yankee-
i’m expecting you to jump right in too.
both of us have lived in enemy territory for so long we should be able to pull it off.
i think it’s all about the timing.
for example, today i wouldn’t talk baseball with any red sox friends i have .
of course, for some reason, i haven’t seen even one today
Off to the game. Surprised so many regulars, but there will probably be substitutions.
Bye.
Technically, NO Gaudin is not under contract for 2010, but he is under the Yankees control. There’s a difference.
Yanks also have an option on Mitre for 2010.
Good line there 86, real clever, a true comedian and scholar.
Too bad you still are spitting in the face of all logic and pretty much discounting what has previously been reported from the moment he was announced to have felt arm pain: he would rest and then be built back up so as to be ready in time for the postseason. And you provide nothing to show that there is some inkling of truth to what you are talking about.
But sure, a gold star for being a D-Rob defender when others were ripping him, that gives you some level of authority on the issue.
Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist September 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
This game should be subtitled “The Hangover” starring Ramiro Pena, Francisco Cervelli and Shelley Duncan
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Shelley wakes up with a missing tooth and married to a hooker (I mean “escort”).
Mild back spasms for Josh Beckett
Pete, if that’s “Night” from “Nassau Night”, the Crystal Cat Bruce bootleg, it’s 12/31/80, not 12/30. He starts the song by saying, “Ready to ring out 1980?” and has a Christmas song set before they have a countdown and play Auld Lang Syne.
When is Pete’s last day??????
Well the good thing about this line up is, it’s a great way to audition for some,and chance to be one of the finalist on
the postseason roster.
Wouldn’t that be something if they won tonight anyway?
Well, we certainly have a strong bench tonight!
I think the big intruige for the week will be how much playing time Guzman gets. If they want to have his speed coming off the bench pinch running in the playoffs, you’d think he’d see quite a bit of action,
Red Sox
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. Victor Martinez, C
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. David Ortiz, DH
6. Jason Bay, LF
7. J.D. Drew, RF
8. Casey Kotchman, 1B
9. Alex Gonzalez, SS
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According to Boston media this is their give up and rest lineup, roughly the same one we saw all weekend in New York. If their A lineup is their give up lineup too, they are in for a rough series with the Angels.
the yankees can and will win tonight, even with this lineup. It isnt that bad of a lineup and all of those guys have major league experience. And it’s the Royals, and a pitcher with an ERA of 6…
UPDATE, 3:58 p.m.: The clubhouse still smells of champagne. … Phil Hughes rocking a porn star mustache these days.
I am shocked that Melky and Cano are playing!
UPDATE, 3:58 p.m.: The clubhouse still smells of champagne. … Phil Hughes rocking a porn star mustache these days.
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Do you see him in the bullpen when he is just sitting there? He looks like he is getting some under the bench the way he sits there with the arms behind his head smiling, so why not rock out the porn stache.
randy
I’m sure you can handle them on your own but I would do my part to help.
Nothing worse than the smell of day old booze
oh weird – Pete’s Twitter “line up” tweet was the sox line up on boston.com
the LoHudYankees’s tweet was the Yankee blog post.
I guess the transition is very much underway
The Yankees are still the betting favorites this evening — for entertainment purposes only.
Wow what a lineup. It really does look like the “hangover” lineup. hehe.
Melky and Cano need work. Cano needs to work on hitting with RISP and Melky needs to completely get out of the hitting slump he was in, sana a homerun the other day.
I guess the carpet cleaners weren’t there yet.
Maybe Thursday.
stupid Girardi and his lineups…oh wait
Speedy outfield
Obviously financial incentives really motivate Andy Pettitte. If I were Cashman I’d add an addendum to that contract pro tempore post haste.
I don’t like Phil’s mustache much, but, who cares?
(tex’s friend – a little too graphic and yucky.
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-4 things I like about Gaudin:
1.Yankees win games he starts.
2.He’s very economical with his pitch count early.
3.He can help in the already strong pen.
4.Coming from a team with a losing record,and now a shot at postseason pitching in his first possible showing in a WS.
Translates to he’s motivated
Phil’s mustache is disgusting……he looks horrible, lol.
So this is why the Sox decided to start Lester in Game 1 of the ALDS instead of Beckett – a back injury. Beckett has been pitching crappy since Aug 18th; now we know why.
Playoff Mustachio?
Hmmm, no Swisher in the lineup – there’s a surprise.
Terrible lineup
Where is A-Rod? Damon? Swisher? Tex?
Why is Girardi just giving this game up? We’re not going to score runs at all with that lineup and with Gaudin on the mound especially.
Congrats KC, you get a free win because our manager decided to rest everyone for some reason.
Gaudin > Mitre no doubt.
I hope we see the Joba of friday night the rest of the season and playoffs. I like that Joba.
This lineup is our victory ‘formation’. I love the smell of stale champagne in the morning, it smells like…victory!
Watch, When Phil pitches fans will bring out those fake ’staches used for Giambi last year.
Here’s hoping the smell of champagne permeates the Yankee clubhouse till Thanksgiving.
I guess We just won’t be able to hear Sterling say “Mark sends A Tex Message”
Yeah! Terrible lineup!
How can Girardi just throw our chance at the season like this?!?!?!
(eye roll)
On the iPod: Seether by Veruca Salt
Jeter 2006
September 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Terrible lineup
Where is A-Rod? Damon? Swisher? Tex?
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These are my favorite posts.
And FYI- Damon IS in the line up
Do people complain for the pure sport of complaining?
Jeter 2006
September 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Terrible lineup
Where is A-Rod? Damon? Swisher? Tex?
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These are my favorite posts.
And FYI- Damon IS in the line up
Do people complain for the pure sport of complaining?
do you guys really think its a good idea to rest everyone ?? I cant believe what I’m reading… ITS PRETTY SIMPLE THE HOTTEST TEAM WINS IN OCT… you rest everyone and the bats go cold…. Please think people before you write nonsense
Today is a MUST win game
(hehehehehehehe.. I really am funny)
Ledger_Yankees:
Yankee organizational meeting tomorrow to hash out postseason roster, etc. –Carig
Yes, giving most of the regulars one night off means that THE YANKEES ARE GOING TO LOOSE IN THE PLAYOFFS!
I haven’t noticed the mustache – any pics/vids?
TTERBA, relax. We have an older lineup that needs a little rest. Trust in Joe to keep people focused. The 1998 team rested and rolled through the playoffs…
Remember last year when we were trotting out all those crappy starters? This year has been FUN!
Noreaster – This isnt the 98 team… lets not get carried away… I agree with resting some of the guys but if you see this type of lineup the rest of the way… Thats not a good thing…team loses focus… THIS IS TEAM IS NOT PLAYOFF TESTED LIKE THE 98 team…
Couldn’t Andy’s post-season innings be included in the performance bonuses?
Erica – always OPPC
September 28th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Today is a MUST win game
(hehehehehehehe.. I really am funny)
Hey Erica, How was AC?
“tony
September 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
stupid Girardi and his lineups…oh wait”
HAHA nice!
TTERBA
September 28th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Noreaster – This isnt the 98 team… lets not get carried away… I agree with resting some of the guys but if you see this type of lineup the rest of the way… Thats not a good thing…team loses focus… THIS IS TEAM IS NOT PLAYOFF TESTED LIKE THE 98 team…
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Is resting the regulars in one game a week and a half before the playoffs starts really that big of a deal and going to kill the momentum of the entire season?
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 28th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Erica – always OPPC
September 28th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Today is a MUST win game
(hehehehehehehe.. I really am funny)
Hey Erica, How was AC?
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Pretty awesome. Sadly, I lost money and will not be buying a LoHud luxary box for the playoffs. But I had a great time anyway
LOL – some of these posts have to be intentionally funny.
It’s ONE game. You think Girardi’s gonna send this lineup out every single day for the rest of the season? No.
Are these the same people who look at a spring training lineup and write, “OMG – what is Girardi doing??!!? He is giving the game away!!!!”
These guys have been busting their butts for months – give them a day of rest. Enjoy this no stress week — it’ll be the only one of the season.
Now this would be a great week for GTLU….
If Beckett’s problem persists (and who really knows with Lester until he starts pitching) that could be a quick series with LAA
Pretty awesome. Sadly, I lost money and will not be buying a LoHud luxary box for the playoffs. But I had a great time anyway
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I’ll drop a quarter in your yankee soup cup
Poeple are only joking with the complaints right? Sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet, but I think most are jokes.
I think its funny that Joe gave most of the Vets the day off. Perhaps they partied harder then we thought( I mean did you see that video of Tex? lol). Anyway, I am sure most guys will be back in tomorrow. He’s not going to sit everyone for a week. I’m confident Joe knows what he’s doing when it comes to giving players proper rest time. Although I would like to see Jeter’s reactions on the bench if he had to sit for a week. ( Michael Kay points this out incessantly whenever Jete DH’s: he doesn’t know what to do with himself when he’s not out on the field.)
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the manager of the 100 win Eastern Division Champion New York Yankees knows which lineup is best for his team.
Jerkface
September 28th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Pretty awesome. Sadly, I lost money and will not be buying a LoHud luxary box for the playoffs. But I had a great time anyway
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I’ll drop a quarter in your yankee soup cup
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Much appreciated. I do accept donations to the “Erica is returning to Atlantic City October 17th for a rematch” fund
TT, Yep not 98…but the best team we’ve had since 99. We finally are entering the post season without the bullpen being burned out (Thank you JoeG!). That was always the secret. Starters to keep it close or better, a pen to hold them in place and then letting out lineup destroy the underbelly of the the other team’s bullpen…
//Beckett was scratched from his start tonight. Anybody know why?//
Yup. They giving him extra rest so he can dominate the Yankees in the playoffs along with Knee-Caps Lester!!!!!
Two Number Ones on staff sure can’t hurt! Too bad you only have one.
YAYYYYY! I love these interim games.
Who gets to manage the team in Tampa this weekend? I would like to see Swisher calling the shots, just for comedic value more than anything else.
UPDATE, 3:58 p.m.: The clubhouse still smells of champagne. … Phil Hughes rocking a porn star mustache these days.
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Not a fan of the ’stache on young Youuuuuuse, but whatever. As long as he likes it.
This team is gonna go right into a series with either Detroit or Minni who will be battling to the end… watch out if the bats are ice cold from collecting dust…trust in TTERBA
Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist
September 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Who gets to manage the team in Tampa this weekend? I would like to see Swisher calling the shots, just for comedic value more than anything else.
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That was a Torre tradition. Girardi might now keep it alive
I love the sight of the split squad lineup. Reminds me of spring.
It’s a shame Texas blew their game yesterday. The Sux would be sweatin wicked hahd if the lead was down to 5 and Beckett was out. It doesnt matter that much. The Angels are gonna run the Sux out of the playoffs.
“trust in TTERBA”
Sorry, I trust in Joe Girardi more.
Look guys you just dont want Eric Hinske out there everyday… Rest some guys sure… but lose the vibe – bad…remember 2006 anyone ?
One of the many nice things about resting so many regulars tonight is that they can play tomorrow and either rest again on Wednesday or Friday. That would give them tonight (as a hang over day) and a two day break combined with Thursday’s off day. Then I would expect all of the regulars to each get into two games in Tampa to stay sharp.
Amazing that people are still whining about Cabrera. He’s hitting .273 with 13 homers, 67 RBI, 63 runs scored and 10 steals…..out of the 8-9 spots. He plays an exceptionally good center field along with the other two spots , he gets his walks and doesn’t strike out much, and he’s hit when it means something. If Gardner could do that, he’d be playing full time.
Hopefully tonight we will see Kennedy, Melancon and Dunn pitch.
lol at Francesa trippin out over some golf
I think the Sox are covering up something with Beckett. Because Lester is the game 1 starter and Beckett has not been pitching that good of late.
Next time Mama Hughes calls to tell Phil to sit up straight in the bullpen she should tell him to shave the ’stache too.
With Pete Abe’s departure imminent, I just wanted to formally say, once again: “Thanks – for everything”!
TTERBA, can you do a breakdown on the Yankees’ lineups for the final 6 games of the 1996-2007 seasons and give a correlation with the results in the first playoff series?
Today would be IPK’s 5th day, so it would make sense for him to pitch, either tonight or tomorrow if they are looking to get him work here in the last week.
I keep getting these Boston line-up related twitter messages from Pete, so weird
As for the mustache, I am definitly not a fan! Phil is adorable and that look does not work on him.
Cute story: I went to the game on Saturday and during BP I was in the stands in RF directly behind Joba and Phil. They were out there catching fly balls and basically were in charge of shouting “heads up” to all the fans whenever a ball went into the stands. At one point Bruney put his glove down, and Phil grabbed it and acted like he was going to throw it into the seats. Bruney ran after him. I found it amusing
Don’t hate on Eric Hinske – he is the very reason the Yankees will be in the WS this year (see: 2007 Red Sox and 2008 Rays).
I can’t IMAGINE that the Yankees will have cold bats this year. It’s hard to believe that the Yanks have not won a postseasons series since the 2004 ALDS.
Must win tonight for the Yankees…NOT!!!
Too bad that Texas collapsed so badly.
Good luck Pete.
lol im loving the lineup, should be a very interesting game.
IZ GIRARDI TRYING TO LOSE THIS GAME. THIS IZ THE WERST LINEUP EVER!!!!1111!!1!!!
This’ll be fun tonight – no pressure.
Will check in on DET-MIN as well.
so francessa spends half the day talking about golf and has barely mentioned the little thing about the yankees clinching the division and home-field. nice
I’m fairly certain the next and only time we see the “A” line- up is on Friday when CC goes for number 20. Maybe for a half day on Sunday.
Ham Fighters
September 28th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
so francessa spends half the day talking about golf and has barely mentioned the little thing about the yankees clinching the division and home-field. nice
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He hasn’t talked much yankees since they swept the red sox in august. There is not much for him to complain about. He likes talking about the yankees whenever Joba pitches bad though.
Carl September 28th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
lol at Francesa trippin out over some golf
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Someone needs to tell him to take a chill pill. The Yankees clinched yesterday, Jets and Giants are a combined 6-0 and he is talking golf?! And blowing a gasket over it. Geez the guy has some serious issues.
XLK
I firmly believe he isn’t a Yankee fan.
Why is it now that every time a person grows a mustache that it gets the extra adjective of “porn”?
There are plenty of people who wear a mustache and all types of styles. While they aren’t as popular as they had been in the 70’s, they are usually better looking than some of the goatees that are being worn by so many people.
Here’s an interesting tid bit:
Josh Beckett has been scratched from tonight’s start becaus of back spasms. Hmmmmmmmm……
http://www.nesn.com/2009/09/jo.....start.html
In a world of a million sport blogs, Peter Abraham founded the Lohud Yankees Blog.
It has become the definitive Yankees blog and one of the best, perhaps the best sports blog on the net. This is Pete’s accomplishment and his legacy.
Well done, thanks, it is our responsibility to maintain the high standards that have been this blog’s hallmark during Pete’s tenure.
Girardi will give them rest but he will make sure that they are ready for postseason play. Girardi is not going to let them take a vacation. This team will be ready to go and will win in the postseason.
“Beckett was scratched from his start tonight. Anybody know why?”
He hurt his back when he bent in half with his head in his hands after the last pitch of last night’s game. He was so inconsolable he had to be carried from the dugout in a stretcher with the attendants giving him smelling salts. Though the back is better, it is still spasming today.
“I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the manager of the 100 win Eastern Division Champion New York Yankees knows which lineup is best for his team.”
I went out on that limb from day one of the season! Ha ha ha.
Nothing wrong with Beckett. The Red Sox are just resting the regulars. Francona’s gonna screw up and rest the sox right out of the playoffs.
beckett has mild back strain, no big deal, and lester apparently felt no pain throwing long toss this afternoon.
Why are they waiting until tomorrow to pitch Robertson? Was there a set-back?
Beckett is a real prince.
Pete’s gonna have to live with Mr. Surly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kN0ZI5EqPA
What, no Swisher in the line up?
“Nothing wrong with Beckett. The Red Sox are just resting the regulars. Francona’s gonna screw up and rest the sox right out of the playoffs.”
And were that to happen, he would rest himself right out of a job. I can only hope that he does it, for the better good of course.
Lester is the ace for the Red Sox now. The Red Sox said that Lester is the Game 1 starter in the ALDS. I think Beckett has some sort of injury because he has not been pitching well for a while and now this.
Is Pete going to be doing the “Extra Bases” blog?
Not much commenting going on there.
I know the Globe is a bigger paper than The Journal News (of which I have yet to see an actual copy of) but there’s no way that blog has more readers than this one.
I guess that’s why Pete was brought in.
You gotta dead blog on your hands? Peter Abe is your man!
Trisha – you definitly get the award for having the most aggression towards the sox
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Just out of curiosity – have you even been to a yankee/sox game at Fenway? Any fun stories to share?
Lester felt fine during long toss.
Let’s see when he really has to push off/land on that leg
GreenBeret7
September 28th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Nothing wrong with Beckett. The Red Sox are just resting the regulars. Francona’s gonna screw up and rest the sox right out of the playoffs.
GB,the Sox are going with their best lineup tonight. Varitek sits and Kotchman plays 1st.
man, the sox bridgejumpers really went off on that blog (extra bases) under the post ’sox shrug off celebration’ makes our jumpers look really meek by comparison
Bronx Jeers -
Not only does Pete have a dead blog at the Globe, he’ll have nothing to do after the Sox get swept by the Angels.
Maybe that’s why he took the job, he wanted to spend october and november following Springsteen around the country, instead of the Yankees.
What a lousy lineup, feel sorry for the people who payed good money for advance sale tickets to see a spring training lineup. Maybe the sitting regulars will sign some autographs.
I don’t get that about Robertson either…….not a good sign. What, he’s going to have many 2 outings to prep him for the post-season? I’m sure not going to count on him to do much……….
I don’t get that about Robertson either…….not a good sign. What, he’s going to have many 2 outings to prep him for the post-season? I’m sure not going to count on him to do much……….
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He threw a bullpen on saturday and was fine, they are just giving him rest. He can pitch tomorrow, then go back to back on friday and saturday, and then have a break for the ALDS.
Calm down.
Jerkface, that’s your opinion that Robertson can go back to back after only one relief outing. Sorry, at best he’ll go into the post-season off of 2 or 3 outings……and he’s supposed to be trusted in a big spot? I don’t see it…….as it is, I have my doubts about him.
jerkface -
The only thing is they had pretty much announced that Robertson would pitch on Monday. So it sends a bit of a red flag (at least until further information) if they’re holding him back until tomorrow.
I’ve been to Fenway once. David Wells first start in 1998 after his Perfect game. Sat on the third base side about 20 rows up from the dugout. Wells went a few perfect innings and the Yankees won the game. Wore my Yankees cap and even got a “Lets go Yankees” chant going. I don’t think the vitriolic hatred was there in 1998 like it appears to be now. Then again, that was when the Sox expected to lose to the Yankees at Fenway.
He only missed 3 weeks. Its not like he forgot how to pitch.
The only thing is they had pretty much announced that Robertson would pitch on Monday. So it sends a bit of a red flag (at least until further information) if they’re holding him back until tomorrow.
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It was speculated that he might pitch monday, I don’t recall girardi saying monday or cash. He threw a bullpen on saturday and Ken Rosenthal reported that he would throw tuesday. I think that was probably the plan.
I guess I am just more optimistic than any of yous.
jerkface -
Of course he didn’t forget how to pitch. The question is did he show up with any soreness today?
If he’s healthy, I think he’ll be fine. It’s the health issue that I am curious about.
Robertson is fine.
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I didn’t hear Rosenthal’s report; only the Monday availability/probability report.
THe fact that Rosenthal reported it ON saturday during the game made me think it is the plan more than any speculated monday appearance.
I hope Joe plays these games to win and just doesn’t go into cruise control for the next week. I don’t want to hear this well you know the Yankees stopped playing after the Boston series crap.
The soreness is an issue and the sharpness….I’d rather see Ace in the 7th than Robertson….
“What a lousy lineup, feel sorry for the people who payed good money for advance sale tickets to see a spring training lineup. Maybe the sitting regulars will sign some autographs.”
I mean I am glad they clinched, but if you were going to the game tonight and bought tickets like 2 months ago..That line-up will be tough to watch…
There were multiple reports and quotes from the Yankees that Robertso was going to pitch Monday…………
“You gotta dead blog on your hands? Peter Abe is your man!”
He’s like The Wolf from Pulp Fiction.
I hate the Red Sox, but I can not see the angels beating them….they never do…The angels bullpen is awful..
Enough Youk September 28th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
“What a lousy lineup, feel sorry for the people who payed good money for advance sale tickets to see a spring training lineup. Maybe the sitting regulars will sign some autographs.”
I mean I am glad they clinched, but if you were going to the game tonight and bought tickets like 2 months ago..That line-up will be tough to watch…
I see them play every year at Hammond Field in Spring training against the Twins. My buddy and I always joke about what 5 guys will showup this year. Usually leave after the 6th inning as the lowest number in the outfield is 95.
Great news about AJs dad!
Is Duncan on double secret probation or something?
“There were multiple reports and quotes from the Yankees that Robertso was going to pitch Monday…………”
Originally, it was Monday, but I believe Girardi said yesterday that he was probably going to wait until Tuesday. I’m certain that the Yanks clinching played an important part in that decision. If the magic # was 1, then he would be used today if the needed presented itself.
I just searched one of those article spider things on Robertson and all they said was “it is reported that Robertson will be available to pitch out of the pen monday” alternatively the Times and NJ Ledger reported ‘early next week’
Thus I think this is a manufactured controversy and I won’t suffer any elipses worrywartness
Did I miss the mail note or the meeting? Is Robertson getting ready for Cooperstown? Why so much concern about a back bencher.
awww, great news about AJ’s dad. Let’s hope Mr. Burnett experiences no setbacks……..
Sweeny Murti said earlier on wfan they where just giving Robertson an extra day. Calm down.
Bill from NJ September 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Is Duncan on double secret probation or something?
Doesn’t seem to be much of a future here for him. He would be better served trying to get onto a lower division club where he can play.
Petey….. You’re gonna be missed – you have the best updates. Many many lame blogs out there without much direction/info. Hopefully Sammy is up to the challenge. Good luck to you.
“I hate the Red Sox, but I can not see the angels beating them….they never do…The angels bullpen is awful..”
It should be an interesting series. Both teams are more flawed than they’ve been in quite some time.
Boston:
Incosistent offense (especially on the road)
Question marks for their 3&4 starters
Suseptible to basestealing
Anaheim:
Weak starting pitching (1-4)
No Scot Shields
Vlad never seems to hit in the playoffs.
I can see Anaheim winning the series. Boston will be throwing Dice K and Buccholz at home. If one of them gets knocked around, then the Sox’s biggest advantage (Fenway) will have been neutralized.
I’m really not worried about Robertson being sore – I believe him when he says he’s fine. I’m concerned about him not being sharp for the playoffs given how few outings he will have.
I’m really not worried about Robertson being sore – I believe him when he says he’s fine. I’m concerned about him not being sharp for the playoffs given how few outings he will have.
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Relievers don’t need to pitch like 10 times to be ’sharp’, they just need to get some regular work. If Robertson can get in 3 games I think he will be fine. And technically, he already has 1 because he threw to Miranda and Duncan on saturday for 25 pitches
what kind of foolish line up is that?
the line up should read as follows:
J Molina CF
J Molina RF
J Molina LF
J Molina DH
J Molina 2B
J Molina 3B
J Molina 1B
J Molina C
J Molina SS
Roberston is probably hung over…thats why they are pushing him back to tomorrow.
im not pulling for either the socks or angels, just like im not rooting for the twins or tigers, to do so is just asking for it. but i am pulling for the twins-tigers to go down to a monday playoff and mess up either team’s rotation, ditto for socks-angels, i just want to see it go 7 (with some extra innings thrown in)
Some of you people are like bitter old women sitting around a nursing home complaining just to complain.
Robertson was fine. He had a long, game-condition workout on Saturday so they decided to give him an extra day of rest. He’s fine. Calm down.
As for the lineup, anybody who complains about a team with 100 wins resting its regulars a day after clinching all there is to clinch really need to get a life. That’s pathetic.
It’s pretty jarring to get Boston.com updates from Pete’s Twitter. On the plus side I’m pretty sure those are going to slow down by mid-October.
Beckett scratched from tonight’s start with back spasms.
He just can’t stay healthy, can he? I think you have to consider Beckett a greater injury risk than Burnett at this point. Pretty funny.
sorry of course i meant i want socks-angels to go 5 (although 7 would work for me!)
“Doesn’t seem to be much of a future here for him. He would be better served trying to get onto a lower division club where he can play.”
They took him off the 40 man earlier this year so he was able to sign with whoever he wanted. Guess teams weren’t lining up to have Shelly play for them because he accepted an assignment to Scranton.
Bill from NJ September 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Is Duncan on double secret probation or something?
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Shelley is toooooo good. Girardi wants to give KC some hope. If he puts Shelley in the lineup, the Royals could forfeit. They know Shelley is a threat to hit 4 homer and drive in 11 runs.
Glad to see Betsy is already getting herself worked up into a nervous fit for the post season…
AndrewYF
Last Year he had the oblique issue and was horrible during the postseason. Now he has back issues whcih might explain the bad pitching of late. And I can’t believe that people said that Beckett was a better pitcher than Sabathia. Beckett is just a good pitcher who pitches good in the postseason when healthy like Schilling.
“Trisha – you definitly get the award for having the most aggression towards the sox ! ”
I am honored!!!
“Just out of curiosity – have you even been to a yankee/sox game at Fenway? Any fun stories to share?”
Oh yeah I’ve been. I went to the May series when Duque and Irabu were playing for the Yanks and went to all three games. I went decked out in my Yankee gear and readily played the part of the hated Yankee fan. I got pretty good seats for the series so wasn’t anywhere near the bleachers. My ex and I were together at the time and I know he wasn’t totally comfortable about my bravada. In fact he kind of pretended we weren’t together in case of confrontation!
One of the things I remember most about that series was getting into a T shoutout with some male Sux fans after the game since I injected myself into a discussion about which shortstop was better – Nomar or Jeter. It turned into a pretty funny thing though. I think it is because I am female, not very tall, and looking kind of cute with my Yankee cap turned with the brim toward the back (I did that because it was really warm and I was sweating.) Also, those days the Yankees were really considered the bomb and I probably took advantage of that fact. I mean the Sux were truly in the mode of feeling that could never really beat the Yanks when it counted.
Another “memorable” game was Andy’s final game at fenway before he left for the Astros. It was an amazing game and he was facing Pedro. I had gotten tickets for my brother, sister, and brother’s son. At the time he was a Yanks fan and so he and I sat together and Paul and Gayle sat together. The seats were near each other but not in the same row. They were also behind home plate so I was in definite Sux territory. Well I cheered my brains out, apparently too loudly for the man in front of me, who told me at the end of the game that he hadn’t paid $200 for his ticket to have me screaming in his ear the whole game. It really did set me back a little and got me to wondering whose rules applied in those situations. I paid the same for my ticket. Is there a rule against shouting for your team even if it’s not at your team’s stadium?
Well something happened last year that brought the whole thing full circle for me. I went to the last game of the season and was sitting in the bleachers. There was a group there who had gotten tickets for the game – they were at a convention in the City – and one of the group was an avid Orioles fan. She had come in full regalia and was SCREAMING at the top of her lungs every time someone from the Orioles did anything at all. I wanted to murder her because she was so obnoxious! All of a sudden I had a flashback of me at fenway. Yikes.
I’d be really interested to know how people feel about fan rooting and the situation I just described. I will tell you though that at the end of the game at fenway, I did have some Yankee fans come over to me and say “good job, good for you”. I wish they had been more vocal during the game, however.
Having nothing to do with the team rivalry I can tell you that I think fenway is probably the most hideous park I’ve ever been to. Some people love it. I think it is crowded and atrocious.
If I can hunt down my “Michael and Aunty” picture from fenway I will. It was a lovely day and the Yanks won a great game!
“Some of you people are like bitter old women sitting around a nursing home complaining just to complain.”
Well…..That’s just sexist.
And you better check that attitude at the door when you report up to Beantown buster. You ain’t gonna get a million comments with that kind of talk.
Still, with those words I’m reminded of a certain faux marine biologist.
“The blog was angry that day my friends. Like an old man trying to return soup in a deli.”
Pete:
The best was the people that complained that Damon, Cano, Posada and Melky shouldn’t be in the lineup. Posada and Damon didn’t play yesterday. And as for Cano and Melky, maybe it Girardi’s way of saying you guys were a little to happy to be spraying as much champagne as you did, get in there and show me why we believe in you. (Plus they all get another off day on Thursday).
“As for the lineup, anybody who complains about a team with 100 wins resting its regulars a day after clinching all there is to clinch really need to get a life. That’s pathetic.”
Good God I couldn’t agree more. Do these people have any functioning happy cells???
By the way, I have no problem whatsoever with that lineup. In fact I think that lineup could beat most any team during the regular season. They are Yankees for a reason. Everyone in that lineup has had at least several shining moment for the New York Yankees (well not sure about Miranda.) We’re not talking about a postseason roster here. Grow up!
Pete A.
Any thoughts on why Duncan is not playing?
Duncan’s future is in AAA. The only way Duncan survives on a major league roster is with a team completely devoid of offense…..KC (possibly), Washington (possibly, Pittsburgh (possibly). He screwed up his chances of having value years ago by not learning how to catch and call a decent game. His talents consists of one thing….hitting home runs in the minors. He’s a defensive butcher, can’t hit a breaking ball, has no speed and can’t hit major league pitching at all. It’s sad when Jose Molina is a better hitter than you.
Digya know New York has two baseball teams? Apparently there’s a called the Mets that plays in Queens. Isn’t that weird — never heard of them.
hey pete,
as we are approaching your final day, i’m feeling a bit sour. with that being said, i hope you enjoy the following article (note the boston globe reference):
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs.....e-way.aspx
best,
max
Do I have any thought on why Shelley is not playing?
No, can’t say that I do.
Good news about AJ’s dad.
We just had a downpour here in central NJ, after a beautiful day of sunshine.
Melky and Cano are young kids there really is no reason for them to need a long rest unless they are hurt. Posada didn’t play since friday and he is the dh today. Damon had an off day yesterday.
The yanks have an off day on thursday and have two off days after the last game of the regular season before the playoff starts. Girardi still needs to keep his players sharp. The guys that can probably use a little extra rest are A-Rod because of his hip, Matsui with his knees. And the older players like Jeter and Mariano.
I’m no meteorologist, but a quick check at accuweather.com shows a system moving right towards the NYC area. It doesn’t seem to be particularly large in size though. The hour-by-hour forecast says thunderstorms at 7 – then partially cloudy – then more storms at 9 – and then just partially cloudy again for the rest of the night. It doesn’t seem unreasonable to think we’ll have baseball tonight, but what do I know..
Pete,
Thanks for the incredible job you did here. You provided and excellent forum, responded to fans better than any other reporter out there and wrote great articles to boot. We will miss you.
Has it ever occured to anyone that maybe Shelly Duncan is really just not that good???
He is not a kid. Plays no real position. And if it wasn’t for one September when he happened to hit a lot of homeruns many people out there would probably be screaming he should immediately be DFAed
OMG
I am watching Paula Deen & Albert Pujols and his wife are on as guest chefs!
Erica – always OPPC
September 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Has it ever occured to anyone that maybe Shelly Duncan is really just not that good???
He is not a kid. Plays no real position. And if it wasn’t for one September when he happened to hit a lot of homeruns many people out there would probably be screaming he should immediately be DFAed.
that’s about right.
I was looking at Posada’s numbers, and his 22 home runs probably don’t stand out that much in this lineup, but when you look at the fact that he’s only had 371 at bats this year, he’s right up there with Teixeira and A-Rod as far as at bats/home runs. A-Rod leads the team with 15.4 at bats per HR, Teixeira is 2nd at 15.7 and Jorge is 3rd with 16.9. He’s really had a great come back year after his shoulder surgery.
no offense, but it has always occurred to me that shelley duncan is not very good. alot of yankees fans have had some kind of mental block against seeing the obvious since he first came up. i hope for him that some mlb team desparate for power gives him a shot but hes a wasted roster spot for the yankees.
Some type of Monsoon in Mid town
Meanwhile- much earlier today I asked who wanted to play “Guess the Postseason Roster”.
No one does apparently. I am taking roster submissions until 7pm. List 25 players who you think will be ont he Yankee roster for the first round. People who have the most players right wins.
All I ask is that you actually list them. Such as:
1)Derek Jeter
2)Alex Rodriguez
3)Mark Teixeira
no.27
September 28th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I was looking at Posada’s numbers, and his 22 home runs probably don’t stand out that much in this lineup, but when you look at the fact that he’s only had 371 at bats this year, he’s right up there with Teixeira and A-Rod as far as at bats/home runs. A-Rod leads the team with 15.4 at bats per HR, Teixeira is 2nd at 15.7 and Jorge is 3rd with 16.9. He’s really had a great come back year after his shoulder surgery.
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Yeah Posada had a great year. Maybe him missing all that time in may was acutally a good thing and kept him stronger and more fresh when he did play.
Thanks, Bronx Born. I appreciate that.
NYY626 – Aunty and Michael at fenway. Notice the grim expression on the face of the man two rows behind. He is either disgusted that the Yankees won or wanting to kill me for cheering so loudly – or maybe a combination.
http://images40.fotki.com/v124.....trish2.jpg
Pete, as you prepare to depart the blog that made you famous and move from the New York metropolitan area to someplace in greater Boston, can you opine on the ramifications of batting Johnny Damon 3rd in the order instead of his usual 2nd and Cervelli and Pena 8th and 9th rather than 9th and 8th?
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 28th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Some type of Monsoon in Mid town
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No rain here on Long Island.
Erica, do we know the deadline for the postseason roster to be submitted? Maybe it would make more sense to give a deadline closer to that date? (and if you have the energy, you might want to do it series by series since they can change between each series). Someone might have a spectacular week and make a real case for himself to be on the roster where people might be on the fence about the person as of today.
Just a thought.
@Green Beret “… about Cabrera. He’s hitting .273 with 13 homers, 67 RBI, 63 runs scored and 10 steals… he gets his walks and doesn’t strike out much … If Gardner could do that, he’d be playing full time.”
Cabrera & Gardner are about even offensively. Their rate stats are very similar- for some stats Cabrera is higher, for other stats Gardner is:
.. OBP: .335 and .350 .. Gardner
.. SLG: .419 and .392 .. Cabrera
.. OPS: .753 and .742 .. Cabrera
.. R/PA: .121 and .165 .. Gardner
.. RBI/PA: .127 and .086 .. Cabrera
.. SB: 10 and 24 .. Gardner
Cabrera leads on most of the counting stats simply because he has more PA’s. If they had the same number of PA’s, you’d see the same sort of back-and-forth results- Gardner wins on Runs, Cabrera on RBIs, Gardner on SB’s, Cabrera on HR’s.
Fielding
Fielding Pct: Cabrera .990 vs Gardner .989
Range Factor/9: .231 vs. .270
Slight edge to Gardner there.
1)cc
2)aj
3)pettitte
4)joba
5)goudan
6)kennedy
7)bruney
8)mitre
9)aceves
10)phil
11)mariano
12)coke
13)jeter
14)damon
15)teixeira
16)arod
17)matsui
18)posada
19)swisher
20)cano
21)melky
22)gardner
23)molina
24)hairston
25)hinske
Erica, aside from the usual Nazi reasons, why not give people until the end of the regular season (or a day before) to guess the postseason roster? Things could happen between now and then.
Sorry E, I just noticed that you did say the first round.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Erica, do we know the deadline for the postseason roster to be submitted? Maybe it would make more sense to give a deadline closer to that date? (and if you have the energy, you might want to do it series by series since they can change between each series). Someone might have a spectacular week and make a real case for himself to be on the roster where people might be on the fence about the person as of today.
Just a thought.
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1) I don’t think a really amazing week can make that much of a difference in whether a player with no real proven success should be on something so important like the postseason roster
2) I think its more fun if you do it in advance because then its a real prediction
3) I have time now
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
NYY626 – Aunty and Michael at fenway. Notice the grim expression on the face of the man two rows behind. He is either disgusted that the Yankees won or wanting to kill me for cheering so loudly – or maybe a combination.
http://images40.fotki.com/v124…..trish2.jpg
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Aww, Trisha that’s cute, you’re missing your front tooth.
Erica, no prob. I think it’s really cool that you’re willing to do it. I’m just thinking that with the hubub of this weekend and all of the intensity of clinching people probably are still coming down from their highs and haven’t had a chance to think about that. Maybe if you wait another day you’ll get more business. But I respect you doing it whatever way you want to. It is your gig after all.
I think we need to cut Shelley some slack, for 2 reasons he was ILB MVP… Which is not chopped liver… anyone else here have that on their resume ? Or something similar?? He is what he is…. AAAA.
Besides his dad is a pitching guru…. 16 wins from Joel Pinero???? Ryan Franklin a closer in the MLB… Are you kidding ?????? There should be some type of investigation… I would love it if his dad came to work for the Yanks. One can only imagine!
Peter,
I’m just wonder, what does the press do during a rain delay?
I mean your stuck up there in the press box, with nothing to do. Do you guys play cards, video games, scan for porn on the internet? What?
its probably more likely that robertson will be on the roster than kennedy but i figured that that would be the most common guess so i went with kennedy as a wild card. theres really not much to guess about, i think guessing the alds roster is alot easier than guessing the daily lineup
1 Jeter
2 Damon
3 Tex
4 Alex
5 Matsui
6 Cano
7 Melky
8 Gardner
9 Posada
10 Molina
11 Swisher
12 Hinski
13 Hairston
14 CC
15 Andy
16 AJ
17 Joba
18 Gaudan
19 Mo
20 Hughes
21 Ace
22 Coke
23 Marte
24 Bruney
25 Robertson
Wow, I feel sorry for people that spent their hard-earned money to attend tonight’s game and are left with a lineup full of scrubs.
“Aww, Trisha that’s cute, you’re missing your front tooth.”
My brothers and sisters do goof on me for being so short so I could see one of them saying the same thing!
Here’s my prediction:
1. Jeter
2. Teixeira
3. Cano
4. A-Rod
5. Posada
6. Molina
7. GGBG
8. Damon
9. Swisher
10. Melky
11. Pena
12. Sabathia
13. Pettitte
14. Burnett
15. Joba
16. Hughes
17. Bruney
18. Rivera
19. Coke
20. Gaudin
21. Aceves
22. Marte
23. Matsui
24. Hairston
25. Kennedy
so we’re supposed to think shelley duncan is better than he is because his father is a successful pitching coach? or should we think less of him b/c his brother is a washout with the cardinals?
aaaa is nice and i like shelley, but this is the yankees and this is professional baseball and you dont get bonus points because joel pinero pitched well for your father’s team.
Hey Pete,
I just wanted to say thanks for the hard work on this blog. We really appreciate it and we’ll miss you. I’m sure a few of us might even venture into enemy territory to look at your work over there.
“no offense, but…”
My favorite thing said on the internet. Always said before something potentially offense as a sort of advance disclaimer.
Pete’s second last day.
so it pretty much comes down to hinske or pena and kennedy or robertson i think
by no offense i mean to say that i like shelley and i mean him no insult, he seems to be a nice guy and i wish him well, i just dont think hes good enough to be on the yankees.
The closer Erica’s deadline to Joe’s Deadline the easier it becomes to guess = less fun.
How is Hairston? How is Robertson? This is where the guessing comes in.
I’m just following orders.
Oh, I forgot to say that I had to go into a sporting goods store this morning right after it opened. They already had the division champs hats and t-shirts set up for sale.
Angel, sucks doesn’t it.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 28th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
The closer Erica’s deadline to Joe’s Deadline the easier it becomes to guess = less fun.
How is Hairston? How is Robertson? This is where the guessing comes in.
I’m just following orders.
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Thanks Uncle E
And I revise my earlier statement. It is now hardcore raining on Long Island
While we’re waiting to see if this game survives the weather, I thought I’d share a quick story:
My father made a $100 bet with a Red Sox fan at the beginning of the season over who would win the season series between the Yanks and Sox.
After the Red Sox took an 8-0 lead, the Red Sox fan mercifully offered to end the bet right there and give my father half his money back.
My dad refused. Now, I’m an optimistic fan, but I told him there was a difference between optimism and being delusional. To win the bet, they’d have to sweep every game the rest of the season. But my father insisted they would at least split the series.
Going into this weekend, the Yankees needed to sweep to save my father $100. Again, the Sox fan gave him an out, but instead he bet another $20 on top that the Yankees would sweep.
Instead of being down $50, he’s up $20. More important than that to him, he kept his pride as a fan.
Moral of the story to apply for the upcoming post-season: never give up on our team. Even if we come out the gate 0-2, this team has proven it can do anything.
This has been a shout-out to my father, who after 32 years is still teaching me how to be a Yankee fan.
What is Joe’s deadline – meaning what, not when?
I know Ham, I’m just teasing you, hence my stuck out tongue after it.
We can still take 2 out of 3 from the Roayls with that lineup.
GO YANKEES!
BJK, really nice story.
it rained really hard in philly for about 15 minutes, then turned to drizzle and now its stopped. the radar indicates that this is the same system you are experiencing in the nyc area now. id say there will be baseball tonight.
BJK-that’s a great story…
Would they even bother rescheduling a rain out now?
This game has no consequence for either team
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
What is Joe’s deadline – meaning what, not when?
Joe/Cash/theYanks deadline for setting the roster
If I had tickets to this game i would not be dissappointed at all to see these “scrubs”
YES pre-game Clubhouse Report with Bob Lorenz and Kim Jones:
http://bit.ly/4xuqJd
*indignant stomp*
It has consequences!! Dire consequences!!
My 105 game win prediction is at stake!! LOL
Erica – always OPPC
September 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Would they even bother rescheduling a rain out now?
This game has no consequence for either team
Lord I hope not.
Not to worry
I trust Ham Fighters’ meteoralogical skills
Play ball
Well, so far I have postseason roster guesses for
Ham Fighers
Uncle E
And myself
No one else wants to play?
Some people are looking for things to worry about. One caller to Francesca sounded like he was going to cry because he doesn’t think the Yankees will have such a strong home field advantage in the playoffs due to not enough teachers, plumbers and blue collar workers in the seats.
Weather wise, man is it nasty looking on LI – it almost looks like it’s tornado weather.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
NYY626 – Aunty and Michael at fenway. Notice the grim expression on the face of the man two rows behind. He is either disgusted that the Yankees won or wanting to kill me for cheering so loudly – or maybe a combination.
http://images40.fotki.com/v124…..trish2.jpg
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Cute pic Trisha! I’m happy to know that you shout like crazy in Fenway ( I do the same. I’m a pretty calm person by nature but when it comes to baseball I can get pretty loud). Have you read Confessions of a She-fan? The part when Jane goes finally went crazy in Fenway after trying to hide her yankee-fandom cracked me up.
i have another ‘no offense but…’ i think they have to let johnny damon go. his game has fallen so far over the last 2 1/2 years and continues to deteriorate. he has gone from being a good CF to a terrible LF (borderline unplayable) in that time and his baserunning skills are almost totally gone. his offense had kept up, mostly because he came up with a YS homerun swing which basically works for offspeed pitches, but now he’s losing that stroke, probably b/c the league has figured out not to throw him offspeed stuff he can pull. he’s been an excellent yankee and a tremendous human being, i’ve been a huge fan ever since i saw him come up in kansas city, and as for the 4 year contract that everyone at the time said was way too long, well johnny has earned every cent of it and more, but…the deterioration of his game now is pretty constant and obvious and i dont think you can risk paying what he will be getting with his offensive stats and get your money’s worth out of him, especially with posada, jeter and arod needing some time at dh.
love ya johnny but for the yankees its time to move on.
Any room for another postseason roster prediction?
One caller to Francesca sounded like he was going to cry because he doesn’t think the Yankees will have such a strong home field advantage in the playoffs due to not enough teachers, plumbers and blue collar workers in the seats.
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Wow. For real?
Ham Fighters-
Don’t make me sad
Oh no.. not another one, Ham… That’s one that is bound to offend for sure, lol! *waits*
I’m thinking I might have to disagree with that particular one, for starters, lol.
Valerie G.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Any room for another postseason roster prediction?
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I am acceptiong Postseason Roster Guesses until 7pm
“One caller to Francesca sounded like he was going to cry because he doesn’t think the Yankees will have such a strong home field advantage in the playoffs due to not enough teachers, plumbers and blue collar workers in the seats.”
oh please, gimme a break!
Erica -
I’ll play!
1) CC Sabathia
Phil Coke
2) Andy Pettitte
3) AJ Burnett
4) Joba Chamberlain
5) Alfredo Aceves
6) Phil Hughes
7) Mariano Rivera
9) Damaso Marte
10) Brian Bruney
11) Dave Robertson
12) Mark Teixeira
13) Robinson Cano
14) Derek Jeter
15) Alex Rodriguez
16) Jorge Posada
17) Johnny Damon
18) Melky Cabrera
19) Nick Swisher
20) Jose Molina
21) Brett Gardner
22) Jerry Hairston
23) Guzman
24) Ramiro Pena
25) Eric Hinske
Sorry guys, the wink didn’t go through on my post (LOL). It wasn’t meant to be a serious question, I was just pulling Pete’s leg right after his post.
Actually, I am resting by a stream in N. Calif while flyfishing. Posting on my IPhone. Shows just how dedicated (obsessed?) I am at reading Pete’s posts everyday. I have already emailed him as too how he has meant to us all, and how much he will be missed. Cheers, all.
Pete,
The rain is your fault. It’s raining in the Bronx cuz yer leavin us.
Duh. Sorry Uncle E. I’m thinking Joe from LI.
Bummer Erica. Any extensions granted?
I went to one the Detroit losses in ‘06 (day game)
atmospere was not very playoff like.
Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock
September 28th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Bummer Erica. Any extensions granted?
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Go for it- its not 7 yet
This is great, the Yankees clinched, & the Giants are now
3-0. Could it be any better than this?…. Yes it can.
Erica,
Can I save typing and posting space and just tell you my list would match Doreens?
Erica –
1. Tex
2. Cano
2. Jetes
4. Alex
5. Jorge
6. Melky
7. GGBG
8. Damon
9. Swish
10. Andy
11. CC
12. AJ
13. Joba
14. Youuuuseee
15. Mo
16. Coke
17. Robertson
18. Bruney
19. Matsui
20. Aceves
21. Hairston
22. Molina
23. Gaudin
24. Pena
25. Hinske
Reminiscing a bit. I believe this was the first post that I read here. I thought it was pretty funny. Others? not so much.
Anyway, I think I’ve come in here everyday since.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200...../#comments
1. Sabbathia
2. Burnett
3. Pettitte
4. Rivera
5. Hughes
6. Aceves
7. Robertson
8. Coke
9. Marte
10.Chamberlain
11.Gaudin
12.Posada
13.Teixera
14.Cano
15.Jeter
16.A rod
17.Damon
18.Swisher
19.Melky
20.Gardner
21.Matsui
22.Molina
23.Hinske
24.Hairston
25.Guzman
doreen, no matsui?
My thesis is due in 2 hours… I dont have time right now to think of the roster til I get it done, hopefully around 9. Just stopped on here really quick..
OMG -
How COULD I FORGET MATSUI???????
Oh, well. I lost. I’m not good at this stuff, am I?
Erica:
“Cause I can’t type that fast (and I’m lazy), put me down the same as NYY626
Drive 4-5
September 28th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Erica,
Can I save typing and posting space and just tell you my list would match Doreens?
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OKay
Ok. Here is my prediction:
1. Jeter
2. AROD
3. Tex
4. Swisher
5. Matsui
6. Melky
7. Gardner
8. Robby
9. Damon
10. Posada
11. Molina
12. Burnett
13. Sabathia
14. Mo
15. Hughes
16. Pettitte
17. Gaudin
18. Cervelli (maybe I’m crazy)
19. Coke
20. Joba
21. Bruney
22. Marte
23. Aceves
24. Kennedy
25. Hairston
I know I missed someone obvious but I have 4 minutes to get this in, so…
If I missed an earlier comment on this, I apologize, but I really want to know: How is our man Sachin doing at Fenway?
Christina-
You have been granted an extension to post at 9pm.
(And people say I am a Nazi)
Hamfighters -
I was being so methodical. I counted the eight position players, but forgot the DH. I double checked before I pushed “submit.” And I love Hideki. That’s why I never played GTLU.
L to the 2nd
September 28th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Erica:
“Cause I can’t type that fast (and I’m lazy), put me down the same as NYY626
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Yes sir
What purpose does Hinkse serve in the playoffs? No one will be pinch hit for.
I would lean towards and extra pitcher or go with Cervelli. In case Posada is pinch ran for.
I should have done it by lineup instead of going “around the horn.”
Doreen
September 28th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Hamfighters -
I was being so methodical. I counted the eight position players, but forgot the DH. I double checked before I pushed “submit.” And I love Hideki. That’s why I never played GTLU.
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Its okay Doreen. Matsui is #23 on my list cause I almost forgot him too
Erica
1. Tex
2. Robbie
3. Capt Jetes
4. Arod
5. Johnny
6. Melky
7. Swish
8. Jorge
9. Matsui
10. CC
11 AJ
12 AP Andy Pettite
13.Joba
14. Ace
15. Phil
16. Mo
17. Bruney
18 Coke
19. Marte
20. Robertson
21. Gardy
22. Hairston
23. Molina
24. Pena
25. Hinske
OMG, I forgot Duncan. I don’t know if he will be on the roster or not, but I forgot him
Are we playing guess the postseason roster?
1) Jeter
Swisher
2) Damon
3) Teixeira
4) A-Rod
5) Matsui
6) Posada
7) Canó
9) Cabrera
10) Sabathia
11) Burnett
12) Pettitte
13) Chamberlain
14) Gaudin
15) Gardner
16) Hairston
17) Hinske
18) Molina
19) Peña
20) Rivera
21) Hughes
22) Coke
23) Aceves
24) Marte
25) Robertson
Drive 4-5
NOOOO!
You don’t want to match mine. I missed Matsui!!!!!
Angel, yep………..I mean, obviously his point was that the regular fans will be priced out of the playoffs by big wigs and other such corporate entities (which Mike sort of agreed with him on, saying that the playoff crowd will not be the same as the regular season crowd). Either way, I don’t think the Yankees will be affected by it…..but I hope that that is not the case.
Pel, thanks for the pre-game audio!
Thanks Erica
Ok back to business! Just counting down the months… 3 till this nonsense of grad school is all over..
Doreen I was trying to figure out How you got Guzman and Pena in.
You should revise it – Erica won’t go gestapo on you
Erica -
Can I revise?
thats why i always do the lineup , then the rotation, then the bp then the bench, but as you can see on my guess, i left coke off (he’s behind mo) otherwise i didnt forget anyone
Lots of people are forgetting one obvious player in the alds roster game.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 28th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Doreen I was trying to figure out How you got Guzman and Pena in.
You should revise it – Erica won’t go gestapo on you
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Well, now you are giving me lots of credit.
To go gestapo or not go gestapo…. that is the question
“Going Gestapo”
Is that like going commando?
Doreen
September 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Erica -
Can I revise?
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If I allow you to revise it will invalidate Drive 4-5s submission. Drive 4-5, do you want Doreen to revise?
Erica -
MY GTPSR fate lies within your hands.
Is it too late to submit my roster? If not here’s mine:
Jeter
Damon
Tex
A-Rod
Matsui
Posada
Swisher
Cano
Cabrera
Gardner
Molina
Hariston
Hinkse
CC
AJ
Andy
Joba
Gaudin
Aceves
Marte
Roberston
Bruney
Coke
Hughes
Rivera
Can anybody in New York tell me how the weather looks?
pitchers:
1 CC
2 AJ
3 Pettitte
4 Joba
5 Mo
6 Hughes
7 Marte
8 Coke
9 Robertson
10 Aceves
position players:
11 Jeter
12 Damon
13 Tex
14 Alex
15 Matsui
16 Posada
17 Cano
18 Swisher
19 Melky
20 Molina
21 Gardner
22 Hairston
23 Hinske
24 Fast Freddy Guzman
25 Cervelli ????
The final spot will either go to Bruney, Gaudin, or Cervelli. If I have to choose today, I’ll say Cervelli. I think the Tigers’ offense will require only 10 pitchers. Plus in the Verlander/Jackson games, runs will probably be at a premium.
How sad……the woman who inspired the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds has died at age 46…….wow, way too young to go.
Isn’t that a little like bigotry in reverse though? I mean I get what point he’s trying to make…but he’s almost saying that people who aren’t blue collar workers can’t be as good fans as those who are.
I’m not a blue collar worker and I think I’m a pretty loyal passionate fan.. and I’d say that goes for a lot of on here who aren’t. I can’t imagine calling into talk radio and saying something like that, but I guess thats what talk radio is about more or less these days.
Rebecca
Pena instead of Bruney good call.
Not sure about Hinske myself
I wouldn’t have asked, but Uncle E told me to do it.
damn rain delay in detroit too!
I picked Hinske for his good omen quality.
NYY626 – I hadn’t read the book because it always bothered me that she actually “divorced” the Yankees. I cannot imagine doing that so I didn’t consider her a true fan and didn’t want to read the book. But it might be worth it just for that part!!! Think I will now.
And I am going to celebrate this postseason by keeping that picture as my link.
Erica:
if you post it, they will come
They’ll play tonight..this is supposed to pass within the next hour or two.
Update please,Pete!
“This game should be subtitled “The Hangover” starring Ramiro Pena, Francisco Cervelli and Shelley Duncan.”
haha. I like it.
It just finished a second round of rain here in central NJ. The skies are still dark, but I think they’re supposed to be almost dark at 7 p.m, right?
Doreen-
I have made my official decision. You may revise.
However, Drive 4-5 is stuck with your original submissions because he didn’t bother looking at yours before agreeing
@Erica at 6:18 pm
I posted an ALDS roster over on another thread (the thread where you first sought people to post their guess).
Roster deadline extended due to rain delay?
Revisions accepted?
Guard dogs leashed or unleashed?
Decisions, decisions.
i love tony pena, a very underrated resource for the yankees. its on coincidence that jorge’s throwing out runners has improved so much in the past few years.
Angel, yes it is reverse discrimination…….maybe he was thinking of earlier in the season, but for the last part of the season, YS has rocked. I do think the crowd for playoff games is, unfortunately, taken up by folks who really aren’t fans…..I don’t mean because they aren’t blue collar workers, but because many of those folks don’t care about the Yankees and just want to be seen. It’s what happens at the Super Bowl….
Holy schmoly!!!!! Pittsburgh beat the Dodgers 11-1!!!
Sorry I’ve moved on and like the current Joe better!
“How sad……the woman who inspired the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds has died at age 46…….wow, way too young to go.”
I always Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was inspired from Timothy Leary.
Good, glad to see Damon out……..we just can’t take any chances……
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
NYY626 – I hadn’t read the book because it always bothered me that she actually “divorced” the Yankees. I cannot imagine doing that so I didn’t consider her a true fan and didn’t want to read the book. But it might be worth it just for that part!!! Think I will now.
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I read the book. I loved it. And I understand why she would want to divorce the Yankees. Sometimes they are hard to watch when you know they should be playing better. 2007 was a very rough season.
Personally, I admit it. At the end of last August I broke up with the Yankees myself. I was very mad and hurt by them. We took a break and it lasted about a week. By the time the season ended I realized the 2008 Yankees had their shortcomings, but I loved them anyway
Okay here I go, with full names as instructed…
1. Johnny Damon
2. Derek Jeter
3. Mark Teixeira
4. Alex Rodriguez
5. Hideki Matsui
6. Nick Swisher
7. Robinson Cano
8. Melky Cabrera
9. Jorge Posada
10. Jose Molina
11. Eric Hinske
12. Jerry Hairston Jr.
13. Brett Gardiner
14. CC Sabathia
15. AJ Burnett
16. Andy Pettitte
17. Mariano Rivera
18. Phil Hughes
19. Phil Coke
20. Alfredo Aceves
21. Damaso Marte
22. Dave Robertson
23. Brian Bruney
24. Joba Chamberlain
25. Freddy Guzman
Glad to see the Royals mailing in the rest of the season… or is that their normal lineup? Butler is a beast though.
Erica -
I thank you for your graciousness. My revision:
1) CC Sabathia
2) Andy Pettitte
3) AJ Burnett
4) Joba Chamberlain
5) Alfredo Aceves
6) Phil Hughes
7) Mariano Rivera
8- Phil Coke
9) Damaso Marte
10) Brian Bruney
11) Dave Robertson
12) Mark Teixeira
13) Robinson Cano
14) Derek Jeter
15) Alex Rodriguez
16) Jorge Posada
17) Johnny Damon
18) Melky Cabrera
19) Nick Swisher
20) Jose Molina
21) Brett Gardner
22) Jerry Hairston
23) Guzman
24) Hideki Matsui
25) Eric Hinske
Sports Geek
September 28th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
@Erica at 6:18 pm
I posted an ALDS roster over on another thread (the thread where you first sought people to post their guess).
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Thanks for the heads up. I missed it
over/under on the # of people actually sitting in the stadium at the mets-nats game?
ill go with 3300
http://www.spinner.com/2009/09.....?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spinner.com%2F2009%2F09%2F28%2Fwoman-who-inspired-lucy-in-the-sky-with-diamonds-dies-at-46%2F
Here’s the link about Lucy ……she met Julian Lennon in nursery school. He drew a picture of her with diamonds in the sky, and the rest is history. Recently he was supporting her while she was ill – how wonderful. Julian Lennon seems like a good guy……
Thanks to all that played “Guess the Post Season Roster”. I am no longer allowing submissions (exception- Christina)
Awww Erica, I understand I guess. It’s just that I’ve never broken up with them ever. I am loyal to a fault.
It’s a good book Trisha. I understood the point she was making once I read the book – I wasn’t sure I’d like it when I first started reading it. I think by end of the book and her journey following the Yankees she came to understand a different kinds of fandom and embraced some it herself.
“UPDATE, 7:06 p.m.: Lineup change. Damon out, Duncan in. It’s because of the weather.”
Erica must have been calling Girardi’s private cell again.
“I don’t want my PB getting sick in this weather!”
Angel-
I love how you listed Johnny first
Btw- did you ever get my facebook e-mail?
LoHud blog complaints got Damon out of the lineup and Duncan in. Nice going. No wonder a certain someone is being a Nazi!
And Uncle E -
Thank you for encouraging me to ask for permission to revise.
I do think the crowd for playoff games is, unfortunately, taken up by folks who really aren’t fans…..I don’t mean because they aren’t blue collar workers, but because many of those folks don’t care about the Yankees and just want to be seen.
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Yeah. Or can’t afford the prices they demand for playoff games either.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
“UPDATE, 7:06 p.m.: Lineup change. Damon out, Duncan in. It’s because of the weather.”
Erica must have been calling Girardi’s private cell again.
“I don’t want my PB getting sick in this weather!”
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I wasn’t worried about him catching a cold. Him slipping would be a disaster with sore legs!!!!!!!
Oh, I was late submitting.. nevermind.
Angel, something makes me think you have never ever broken up with the Yanks and never ever would.
I’m going to give the book a try then. Hopefully I’ll come to the same understanding you did.
And TOR already leads 1-0 against Michael “Batting Practice” Bwden in the top of the 1st.
That’s OK, Francona is “resting” his lineup (sure looks like the “A” one to me)
Nuh uh – did you send one?.. let me look at it now.
“LoHud blog complaints got Damon out of the lineup and Duncan in. Nice going. No wonder a certain someone is being a Nazi!”
Joe G. has heard the blog rumors of her really big shoe.
He didn’t want it landing in his kiester.
a rainout in detroit tonight would push both team’s starters back and hopefull could lead to more strain on both bullpens. id like that.
ps. i think id find a book about modern parking lot drainage systems more interesting than cynthia rodriguez’s book
As a retired USAF officer, I must point out that the “required format” as stipulate in Erica’s request for submissions was the use of first names. (ref. original post dated 28 Sep 09, 1818 hrs)
As such, it would appear that Doreen is the winner by default. Possible conspiracy by the ladies here?
(Place lots of laughing smilies here!)
OK, I get the concept of resting guys for the playoffs, but is anyone else at all ALARMED by this?
How many times do you see a red hot team enter the playoffs and tear apart the team with the best record because the red hot team had to fight for their playoff team while the team with the best record got to rest for a week and were taken completely out of rhythm as a result?
Maybe I am overreacting but I have a bad feeling about this…
Now Shelley’s in there…this oughta be fun tonight.
Like early March in late September in the Bronx….
Yay! It’s there. I will deal with it right now.
Rain sux
Maverick
September 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
As a retired USAF officer, I must point out that the “required format” as stipulate in Erica’s request for submissions was the use of first names. (ref. original post dated 28 Sep 09, 1818 hrs)
As such, it would appear that Doreen is the winner by default. Possible conspiracy by the ladies here?
(Place lots of laughing smilies here!)
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No, we are good. All I cared about was people listing them out. This was for two reasons 1) I didn’t want people only submitting 24 people or 26 by accident 2) Its easier for me to copy in Excel
When is Pete’s last day with us and his official first day with Boston? Who does he root for in the playoffs? I know it is a job for him be we are so fanatical on this blog!
Hey Doreen, I may be wrong about this, but do you have a daughter that falls on the Austism spectrum (PDD-NOS, I think?). I know someone here has discussed it before and I thought it was you…
I only ask because I have a student I am having a hard time with right now, and could use some suggestions on what to do.
Early in the game and probably a lot of posters no longer care, but for any who do – Toronto leading already. Sure sure it’s just the first inning. I’d love to see Texas win tonight. Too bad they blew it last night.
Alarmed? Because they are resting guys 1 day after they clinched? Hardly…….
Mad Prince -
If he rests them all week, then I’ll worry.
I think if all the regulars play tomorrow behind AJ, then some get rest Wednesday and some Friday, then play regular lineups for Tampa, they’ll be okay. Not much different than usual.
socks emergency starter down 2-0 (2 more on base) with 1 out in the 1st.
It’s one day for Jete, damon, matsui, tex and a-rod. if that continues all week then I might be a little worried about the rest.
I do think the crowd for playoff games is, unfortunately, taken up by folks who really aren’t fans…..I don’t mean because they aren’t blue collar workers, but because many of those folks don’t care about the Yankees and just want to be seen.
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I’ll be the first one to complain about how post-season tickets are distributed but to say that the crowd isn’t electric just isn’t true.
Even though the Sox will likely clinch today or tomorrow, it’s still fun watching one of their top prospects get hammered by a team with nothing left to play for.
so where does the loss put the dodgers in the standings?
Here’s who is playing “Guess the Postseason Roster”
The submission window is closed. Note, I accepted people who were a little late because a) I am a nice person b) it was a lot of typing. I will annouce the winner(s) when there is one:
Ham Fighters
Uncle E
Erica
NYY626
Barbados
Valerie G
Ed in Oregon
Rebecca
Jenna
vin
Sports Geek
Angel
Drive 405
L to the 2nd
Doreen
It took only the second batter,in the top of the 1st,
Aaron Hill hits a homerun ,Wells doubles and brings in another run.2-0 Toronto so far Bowden being lit up.
Boy, masterson would’ve been perfect for this spot start.
Lucky thing the Red Sox already clinched.
Awww. 4-0 Jays, 1st inning.
Nice going Jays!!!
4-0 toronto, still 1 out in the 1st
4-0 Toronto still in the 1st
I missed the game?
4-0 TOR
That Gammons fellow is a genius.
“Michael Bowden is coming”
Yup. He is.
Good news for us
“Boy, masterson would’ve been perfect for this spot start.
Lucky thing the Red Sox already clinched.”
Christina -
Yes, I have a daughter PDD-NOS. I’m not sure I can help but I’ll try
No, I wouldn’t. But I understand what drove her to write that, especially after reading her book. I’ts good to read to understand the fan perspective of others. After all, we’re all here because we love the yankees – we just express it in different ways. She’s passionate about them and expresses it in a different way that I do, but she’s definitely no less of a fan.
That lineup is interesting
Nice giving the regulars a day off, though.
Go Toronto!
man if texas hadnt fallen apart, boston would be out. o well!
Bronx Jeers, oh I agree……..YS has been a fantastic home field for us, in large part because of the crowd.
“Lucky they already clinched”
D’OH!
Oh well, Frank Francisco is BOS’ 26th man. Arsonist.
What’s the record for pitches thrown by a pitcher in the first inning of a game?
Bowden at 34 with 2 outs.
Mike – from the twitter file of the man himself.
“Just so you all know, I’ll be covering the Yankees though Tuesday then the Red Sox starting a week later.”
I think John Henry and Pete will be house hunting for a few days, and then Larry Lucchino will be helping him move in.
Peter Gammons will come over and bless the new abode by playing guitar until dawn. Bob Ryan will be passing out the kool-aid.
Pete’s first official Boston Globe article will be why he was previously dead wrong and Jim Rice certainly belongs in the HOF.
Erica, I didn’t play because I couldn’t begin to guess. I’ve deferred to Joe G. all season and because of that I have just automatically accepted each and every day of his decisions! I like life that way.
Duncan is in I see. I told you Girardi reads my posts.
Full Disclosure: I have a direct covert line to Girardi but didn’t use it during regular season GTLU, as it would have constituted an unfair advantage.
Really Laughing right now.
Oh my ! the Jays showed up against the Red Sox. lol
im with trisha on that, whatever joe g decides is fine with me, he has had the pulse of this team down perfectly this year.
Angel, you make very good points. I am going to get the book and read it. I admit I have a preconceived disdain for any fan who would think of leaving a team because they didn’t get the job done. That doesn’t fit into my definition of fan. But I also admit that it isn’t going to hurt for me to expand my horizon and try to understand that shaky fans are still indeed fans.
Don’t be fooled by Toronto’s early lead.
It’s all part of Tito’s rope-a-dope.
Later this week they’ll be executing The Flinstone Flop.
detroit-min is postponed, doubleheader tomorrow
Hamfighters -
Wow. Bet they’re thrilled.
Paul/Betsy/Doreen,
All good points.
I too am hoping that it is just one day and by and large it probably will be, but I cannot stomach a first round exit with a team as talented as this one.
Odd as it seems, the teams that have to battle down to the last games tend to go into the playoffs with a bit more momentum.
I am worried about this with a team like Detroit.
If this lineup isn’t Murderers Row, I don’t know what is.
extra bases blog on globe had a total of 29 comments for yesterday’s game post, lohud had around 1000. pete, you got your work cut out for you if thats what you’re gonna be doing.
Mad Prince -
But sometimes they’re just exhausted. That’s what I’m hoping for -
Is anyone listening to/watching Sox on MLB? Appropos of nothing they decide to bring up Cano’s error in the ninth yesterday.
And Youk hits a 2-run HR. 4-2 already.
I think Pedroia benefits quite a bit from being so small, his strike zone is so much smaller than most players.
I wonder if that is the reason why some batters really crouch down when they are at the plate.
Meanwhile Puke hitting a HR over the Boston Bandbox Wall.
Trisha – Trust me Jane loves the yankees, shes just very intense! She has a yankee blog and shes quite amusing.
youk goes deep and halves the lead.
Man ! Fenway park really is a crutch for the Red Sox. When they face a good team in their park they can’t hit. As soon as they get back home they hit.
Detroit/Twins game postponed. DH tomorrow
Appropos of nothing they decide to bring up Cano’s error in the ninth yesterday.
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They brought it up because it stopped Martinez’s hit streak
NYY626
I visit Jane’s blog every day. It’s very entertaining and unique.
Jerkface September 28th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Appropos of nothing they decide to bring up Cano’s error in the ninth yesterday.
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They brought it up because it stopped Martinez’s hit streak
lol
anything that pushes the det-min pennant race towards as late a finish as possible (monday playoff?) is good for the yankees imo.
cano’s error didnt stop martinez’s streak, his weak hit ball to 2b did. cano’s error just allowed him to reach base.
If Boston wins tonight, John Henry will pony up for some teeth whitener for his stooge, Peter Gammons.
Red slops pitcher 39 pitches 1st inning 4 runs wowsa!
Tor 17 pitches 2 runs
Jerkface -
Yeah, but did they have to be so, I don’t know, obnoxious about it?
(I tuned in the game just as they were talking about Cano, didn’t hear the part about Martinez’ streak) So, it was appropos of something after all. But the commentary was not necessary. “What was he thinking?” (I know we all thought the same thing as it happened, but we’re Yankees fans-and they sounded “gloatful.”)
And yes, I know I’m being defensive.
cano’s error didnt stop martinez’s streak, his weak hit ball to 2b did. cano’s error just allowed him to reach base.
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Thats nit picking, the reason they mentioned it is because it stopped his hit streak.
“He had his 25 game hit streak ended when he reached on a Cano error in the 9th as a pinch hitter”
I don’t get the consternation over that
How about an update chubs
“Bronx Jeers, oh I agree……..YS has been a fantastic home field for us, in large part because of the crowd.”
Yes, but it will never be the same. The old upper deck was probably the most intimidating in baseball.
Now it’s smaller and much further from the field.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
Thats not true. The 2000, 1999, 1998 Yankees all made it to the World Series and won while not fighting down the stretch. What you do leading into the postseason means nothing. It’s all about getting hot in the postseason.
I have Colin Cowherd on delay on the only sports station in town. So I’m pretty much a captive audience when I’m out and about.
This morning, Colin told his producer (?) Fish that his Red Sox are going to be okay, they just decided to let the Yankees celebrate at home. And Fish is, “Yeah, totally. I trust Tito and Theo, and I’m just waiting for the playoffs to start”. Going on about how they were sitting guys wholesale. I saw a lot of the starters out there on Fr.& Sunday.
The Svengali effect the Red Sox has over people is unbelievable.
Erica,
When is the deadline?
Hey guys looks like maybe the game will start around 9?
http://www.weather.com/weather.....undeclared
The news about the Twins/ Tigers game being ppd, and a double header tom. is great news for the Yankees because both teams will have worn down pitchers the rest of the way. Maybe things are finally coming together for this team to go the distance.
No major league team is going to tank games because they want the other team to celebrate. If anything, they want to prevent that. They don’t want to be swept either.
why do the jets even consider wearing those hideous looking ‘titan’ unis?
Why don’t they just call this game? The Yankees don’t need it. KC most certainly doesn’t.
Not only that, Abba, but after being ahead in the season series 8-0, they only needed to win 2 more against the Yankees to take the season series and they didn’t do that. Now, in the grand scheme of things, that’s not a big deal. But I’d be willing to be they’re all surprised they ended up even (the Sox that is).
I couldn’t tell, but I think that Colin was being sarcastic about the letting the Yankees celebrate. I think he was baiting Fish, and he fell for it. Hook, line, and sinker.
Awww, thanks for accepting mine. I was late, so I appreciate that. I was frantically trying to save my hibiscus tree from a big wind meltdown, lol.
Okay Angel-
We are officially friends
That can mean a big swing in the standings in one day for the Tigers and Twins if one team wins both of those games. If they split it the standings don’t change, which is tougher on the Twins as they are trying to make up ground.
Both teams are going to be trying hard, so it may come down to which team can stay the most relaxed.
pulling big time for a twins sweep tomorrow, that would mean that neither could clinch till saturday at the earliest
I’m in the lineup tonight. Gotta play this game!!
Laura, can you really blame the Yankees for not wanting to call it? Do you think they want to lose the gate?
Pete,
Best of Luck on your new gig….
I believe in the 162 game schedule. DH tomorrow if tonight’s rained out.
That’s exactly how I’d describe her NYY626.. intense. But she’s still a good egg Yankee fan and has a good heart. Her interviews with the beat writers (including Pete) are really interesting.
Toronto’s pitcher loaded the bases,and red slops couldn’t score a single run,with their A-team!!
4-2 TOR
Imagine the shoe was on the other foot and the Yanks had yet to clinch the wildcard and just got swept at Fenway and lost the last 9 of 10 to the Sox?
Then think of a NY writer claiming Girardi was some sort of strategic genius and was just playing possum with the Sox.
IMHO, that writer would be laughed out of town.
according to the radar it should be clear by about quarter after 8…so they should get started by 9 at the latest.
bronx- NO way, they’d be killing him saying he should be fired.
tor 7-2 hehehe
Our magic number is going to be -2 before our game is over.
Update please, Pete!
Twinkies game is postponed by the looks of it.
All that hype about Bowden = just another Gammons/B Globe con job.
The Green Monster giveth and taketh away.
lol 7-2…watching it on TV right now. Unfortunately, I live in a horrible area that receives NESN and Boston Globe Home Delivery haha
According to the Boston Globe, the ‘Roid Sox have strategically allowed Toronto to score 7 runs
Another cheap homer by Youk. That’s a fly out in EVERY other ball park.
Okay… on FSN North.. Twinkies/Detroit is postponed.. so they’re showing some kind of show about a guy who can get kicked on the cajones repeatedly and not feel pain .. at. all.
I’m not sure how thats related to the Twins/Detroits series at all.. but sheesh.
What a clown Dan Shaunessy is. Red Sox are resting guys for the postseason. What a joke. Maybe they should play hard and get in first, then rest? Its funny because as a general rule up here in the NH/Mass area, everyone thinks Joe Girardi is a bogus manager, and Francona is god. Yet Francona is the one who didn’t play hard vs the Yankees and also pitched to Hideki yesterday with a base open…hmm lol
any idea on a first pitch time? Still thinking around 9?
Bronx Jeers, I’m not thinking about the past anymore. I adored OYS – it’s what I grew up with. However, I love this new stadium and it has already created it’s own memories. The Yankees have a home field advantage here and it’s a strong one – that’s all that counts.
The rain really put a crimp in the Twins plans – they really need to win at least 3/4 (if not sweep) and the DH makes that a lot harder.
Tarp is coming off
Tarp coming off…fisrt pitch around 9
Stevie,
Are you and Jim Pir-one good pals? It appears so.
You have some creepy obsession with the Red Sox just like he does.
I know I’m echoing something someone said earlier, but what’s the use of making up this game? It won’t really hurt or help either team…
“According to the Boston Globe, the ‘Roid Sox have strategically allowed Toronto to score 7 runs ”
“Another cheap homer by Youk. That’s a fly out in EVERY other ball park.”
Their whining and complaining – team and press – is legend.
After 3 tor7-3 Yuk,broughr in all the runs.
Stevie’s a little sexist, but I don’t think he has an unhealthy obsession with the Red Sox. They’re the yin to our yang. Or something like that.
Jesus christ Toronto isn’t playing with Bowden and Albaladejo
Beat kc
‘Bronx Jeers, I’m not thinking about the past anymore.’
Mark McGwire says hi.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: First pitch at 8:55 p.m. Beats a doubleheader.
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Whatever works!
9-3 Jays in 4th inning………….Sox young pitchers looking VERY impressive!! LOL
9-3!
9:00 game time…I wonder if our triple A team can beat KC
Think how thrilled all the starters who aren’t playing are to be hanging around a champagne smelling stadium tonight.
9-3! to a team that quit on the season four weeks ago…ATROCIOUS ATROCIOUS…
Valerie G.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
I know I’m echoing something someone said earlier, but what’s the use of making up this game? It won’t really hurt or help either team…
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Money. Tickets have been sold to this game. If they don’t play or no make-up game is scheduled, they have to refund the tickets.
But I thought the Red Sox were going to play .900 baseball the rest of the season?
That’s what the whiners and complainers were telling us a week ago.
Um, this is with the Boston A team, correct? I’m talking about the offense, not the pitching.
But as someone already pointed out, you can’t blame Tito if he does rest his regulars, after all they’re already in the postseason…
Hunter Jones in now gives up 2 ,it’s 9-3 Tor
Is Bowden still in?
That poor guy should sue the Sox for mental anguish or something.
What is past is prologue.
True, but it wouldn’t be the first time a meaningless game was just cancelled.
Wow Toronto.
Tonight Jake Delhomme needs to relax, relate and release. Beat the cowboys
Girardi’s YES pre-game press conference:
http://bit.ly/F4slr
m September 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Stevie’s a little sexist
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Just a little?
Hunter came in the top of the 4th. Looked like they were going to piece this together out of the bullpen, but Hunter only added fuel to the fire.
Did anyone read that espn article? It’s all about how all of a sudden the Yankees look like the favorites because they’re the healthiest. For some reason I’m having a difficult time finding it.
Just think, if Texas had not fallen off so much this Red Sox team “resting” would be making it really interesting.
I guess Tito and crew are just looking to make Texas feel better by not winning.
This just really brings into focus what you hear all the time about how a pitcher with a healthy lead can pitch his game as opposed to feeling that he has to throw strikes. You can imagine that Richmond may not have been on the winning end of many healthy leads this season.
GO SCOTT RICHMOND!!!
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Um, this is with the Boston A team, correct? I’m talking about the offense, not the pitching.
But as someone already pointed out, you can’t blame Tito if he does rest his regulars, after all they’re already in the postseason…
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Actually, no, they haven’t. They’ve got to hope that Texas loses soon, and hope that they (Boston) can squeak out a win. Wouldn’t be the first time a team thought they were backing into a playoff spot and ended up backing into a parking spot at the golf course.
I thought Johnson was replacing Delhomme?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/notebook?page=bbtn
They only need to get in 5 innings. With a window of time available, that might be what they are going for.
No reason the fans who paid to see this game should be blown off, even if it is a meaningless game in the grand scheme of things.
Giuseppe Franco September 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
But I thought the Red Sox were going to play .900 baseball the rest of the season?
That’s what the whiners and complainers were telling us a week ago.
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Are you a control freak? You have an unhealthy obsession with every one else’s opinion.
Ooops. ^^ is the link for the BBTN article on the how we have the best bullpen because it’s the healthiest.
Wow red slops didn’t answer the runs,with the A-Team bwahahah!
Tor 9-3
-Me thinks the Yankees knocked the wind out of their sail.
I thought it was poetic justice that the last out of the game that allowed the Yanks to clinch was made by Ellsbury. He is a true card-carrying member of the Sux whiners club. What we also had to hear about all season was how he stole home against Andy. Well it was Andy’s game yesterday, even though he wasn’t in at the time, and the fleet of foot Ellsbury managed to make the last out with the even more athletic Mariano Rivera winning the footrace to first.
About Ellsbury – he ain’t all that.
“Actually, no, they haven’t. They’ve got to hope that Texas loses soon, and hope that they (Boston) can squeak out a win. Wouldn’t be the first time a team thought they were backing into a playoff spot and ended up backing into a parking spot at the golf course.”
GB – I was being facetious there. Of course I am thinking the same things you are pointing out. And loving every minute of tonight’s loss.
Jays better hurry up before the rain hits Boston
trisha,
Are you watching the game on NESN? What are the broadcasters talking about? And is Joshie in the dugout?
11-3. They are just pummeling the tar out of the Sux. But this is just Tito’s rope-a-dope, right? While the know-nothing Girardi doesn’t rest his starters because he’s playing to win (astute observer knows that he has rested his starters all season!), Tito is giving his regulars the rest now.
That would almost be funny if it weren’t pathetic. I know it’s Shaughnessey’s interpretation but he actually makes the Sux look pretty smug – and without any reason to be smug!
Stevie September 28th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Are you a control freak? You have an unhealthy obsession with every one else’s opinion.
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At least be a little creative. How original.
And in case you haven’t noticed, this forum was created to respond to each other’s opinions.
You can hate the Red Sox and still admit some of their players are talented. Ellsbury has great potential.
New pitcher for red slops Dustin Richardson Tor,11-3
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
“Actually, no, they haven’t. They’ve got to hope that Texas loses soon, and hope that they (Boston) can squeak out a win. Wouldn’t be the first time a team thought they were backing into a playoff spot and ended up backing into a parking spot at the golf course.”
GB – I was being facetious there. Of course I am thinking the same things you are pointing out. And loving every minute of tonight’s loss.
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Boston must have been resting their players for the last 2 months. Now, their desire is to just get their players healthy. any excuse for pathetic play, I suppose….any port in the storm.
“and the fleet of foot Ellsbury managed to make the last out with the even more athletic Mariano Rivera winning the footrace to first.”
Wow!
I saw a tapper back to the mound but hey… I like this version much better!
It’s like Howard Cosell or something.
Lets go Yankees!!!! Keep the streak going!!!!!!!!
m, joshie is in the dugout. They’ve showed him a few times. The broadcasters are really just talking about what is going on in the game. They aren’t saying much about anything else but the immediate plays! I think they must be flabbergasted almost speechless.
“Boston must have been resting their players for the last 2 months.”
If Boston loses tonight, they’ll have lost 6 of their last 8. In an attempt to hype the NYY/BOS series, there was a headline before it started, “Red Sox Surges into New York” or something like that. Yes, they had a nice win streak before the KC series, but splitting a series with the Royals isn’t (and proved not to be) streaking.
“You can hate the Red Sox and still admit some of their players are talented. Ellsbury has great potential.”
I think that was overplayed last season and shown to fall more than a little flat this season.
Is it taking forever for the blog to load(once hitting refresh) for anyone else? Or maybe it’s just my computer?
Butler is likely to do some serious damage here in this series. Olivo is always tough on MYY. Jacobs can be had, but, he can lose a fastball.
Official game in Bahsten
TOR 11 Youkilis 3 thru 5 innings
That’s too bad.
But hey, at least Francona is “resting” his players.
Trisha–His stats say that he’s ever-so-slightly better this year. Plus his defense is way better than average.
i love seeing the red sox lose, but ellsbury not having a good year?
.298 8 60 .350 .413
66 stolen bases
come on.
get real.
If Ellsbury were a slow runner, he’d hit .270
Ellsbury OPS+ is 94. His UZR is -15.6
Melky’s OPS+ is 97. His UZR (as a CF’er) is 1.9.
Oooo!
Todd and Tom in NJ – thank you for getting real.
The only flaw that I see in Jacoby Ellsbury’s game so far in his career is his arm strength. Not much he can do to strengthen it much more, now. He’s a really fine little ballplayer.
Todd
September 28th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
If Ellsbury were a slow runner, he’d hit .270
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sounds like Maury Wills, Willie Wilson, Brett Gardner, Chone Figgins, doesn’t it?
lets be serious…we’d all love to have ellsbury as our CF but who cares?…we dont need to be fantasizing over sox players right now…we are who we are and its gotten us to 100 wins already.
He is a very good ballplayer, especially in CF.
Nobody’s fantasizing. We’re just acknowledging talent that happens to be on the opposing side.
Trish, I don’t think Ellsbury’s a star. I do, however, think he’s a good complementary player. As, is Melky.
Anyone know where I can find a lot of video of the clubhouse celebration last night?
Tito is ashen. It obviously has to suck bad to get swept and then be losing at home 11-3. It’s one thing to go on a bad streak at the end when you’ve been holding a great lead in the division. It’s quite another to go on a bad streak when you haven’t sniffed first place.
I HOPE Texas plays their butts off tonight. They may feel they don’t have much of a chance, but I would hope that they’ve seen that stranger things have happened in the game of baseball.
GO RANGERS!!!
I too believe the Angels will demolish the Sux. It appears that the Angels have the hotter hand right now. And we all know that the team that gets hottest at the right time certainly has an edge over those who go stone cold.
sox have to face romero and halladay.
“Trish, I don’t think Ellsbury’s a star. I do, however, think he’s a good complementary player. As, is Melky.”
Tom, I can get down with that description. However, he was being touted as being the next rising star on the team. That he isn’t.
“lets be serious…we’d all love to have ellsbury as our CF but who cares?…we dont need to be fantasizing over sox players right now…we are who we are and its gotten us to 100 wins already.”
Ralphie – not all of us. But I respect your desire to have him!
rayblay- go to Yesnetwork.com
tom in nj-
simple question.
is jacoby ellsbury having a good year or isn’t he?
melky and gardner together had a very good year in centerfield.
i see it that ellsbury did too.
you wouldn’t like 68 stolen bases ?
he’s a good young player and right there with the present yankee center fielders.
i’ve always liked melky and wouln’t trade him for ellsbury simply becaue of that, but around the league, i don’t think there are many gms who would take melky over ellsbury.
RayBlay, you might want to check out YouTube to see what’s there. I did DVR the ESPN postgame because I was watching YES. Hey, check out Yesnetwork.com. I bet they’ll have a lot of stuff.
Anyway, if you can’t find it, I could always try to make you a DVR of what I taped from ESPN. I will just have to figure out how you do that.
The shift with Hinske lol
“sox have to face romero and halladay.”
Yowsa. Nothing is a given but you would think that tonight’s game might give the Jays a little bit of a boost.
Randy, I haven’t paid much attention to Hinske the last couple of years, but, I don’t remember his as being a dead pull hitter that would require an Ortiz type shift. Has this always been the case and I just didn’t notice?
go giants
Erica… I have looked through all of the submissions for ALDS roster, just to see what’s going on. Do you mind if I give a little summary post of it?
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10140366/USC’s-Johnson-seriously-hurt-in-weightlifting-accident
Geeze I hope this guy is okay.
gb7-
i never noticed hinske in detail that much to tell the truth.
i just know he always seemed to be a hard nosed kind of player.
i do know i like him better with the yankees than i liked him with the jays, red sox , and rays.
I figured out why joba has not thown as many strikes this season…pc richards and sons are paying him so they don’t have to pay as much money to the Yankees. Save the wave for Shea!!
Randy, yes Ellsbury is having a good season. I was just pointing out that Melky-one of the more maligned players on the Yankees- is having a comparable season to him. I realize that there is more to baseball then theorems and what not.
I’d also love a player with a .300 BA and 70 sbs on the Yankees and I hope (dream?) that Gardner becomes that player.
I flipped over to MLB Network. Ortiz hit a HR and took over 11 seconds to get to 1B and almost 30 seconds to get around the bases.
They showed Cito staring him down. The MLB Network guys all said that Francona needs to set him right on pimping like that if the Jays pitchers don’t do it first.
randy l.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
gb7-
i never noticed hinske in detail that much to tell the truth.
i just know he always seemed to be a hard nosed kind of player.
i do know i like him better with the yankees than i liked him with the jays, red sox , and rays.
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He reminds me a lot of the old Texas Ranger third baseman, Jack Howell, who was another nose-in-the-dirt ball player. He would have been a nice player over the last 3-4 years for NYY.
Pouring in fenway. Hope the game is called, though I would think that the Jays could finish this out.
Trisha, thanks for posting that link. I hope he’s alright…that’s terrible…
Thriller of a game~!!
C lineup will beat the Royals. Some how we will start getting some crazy people saying that Yankees are killing baseball.
how good has Gaudin been? and how many people here wrote him off at first?
LMAO. Gaudin just ate up Gordon’s knuckles and bat.
Val, I can’t begin to imagine what kind of injuries the poor guy sustained. The thought of it is horrific.
“Tom, I can get down with that description. However, he was being touted as being the next rising star on the team. That he isn’t.”
Trisha- Is there a player that is not touted as being the next rising star on the team.
Gaudin was a nice little trade by Cashman. I like the fact he will, most likely, be with the team next year. He may even be the “swing” man-spot starter, long releiver-that the Yankees were missing earlier in this season..
red sox game is in a rain delay.
Chad Gaudin should get a roster spot in pen for postseason
“Trisha- Is there a player that is not touted as being the next rising star on the team.
Good point!!!!
tom in nj-
i’m with you that melky is underrated on the yankees.
we both have the same opinion it appears .
jacoby ellsbury is a good player and so is melky.
if this blog just becomes a bash the red sox blog it’s pretty worthless so i just stated the obvious with ellsbury.
Gaudin is only 26. Be nice to see him here for awhile, him and Aceves would be a real asset to the pen.
Also, rooting hard for Miranda to look good so some team will take a flyer on him (Mets?) and free up a roster spot for the Yankees.
Trisha–I know! It’s scary to say the least. And how many times has something like that happened? Freak accident. Very scary…I just hope he can fully recover.
The Mets do need a first baseman. You never know.
gardner in 232 ab has 3 hr 23 rbi & 44 runs scored
ellsbury in 606 ab has 8 hr 60 rbi & 89 runs scored
obp,ops,slg are about the same,ellsbury has a higher ba but gardner has about half the runs scored in one third the ab
ells has 66 sb,gardner 24
they are the same plyers
all former thunder players except for posada, hinske, gaudin…nice job!
So when Melky and Gardner get doubled up like that, is it as if Ellsbury made two outs by himself?
“This is going to be a long night. My story is done with the exception of the score.”
Playing out the string, huh Pete? Couldn’t you at least pretend to get all misty-eyed?
We’ll miss ya!
Wow, I wish I could have seen that Panther TD on a state-of-the-art gigantic video screen instead of my regular old TV.
Well this game is exciting….
If I’m going to have to watch Scranton Wilkes @ YS then I would like to see Austin Jackson. A few ABs in the majors won’t kill his development.
Oh well on to the Cowgirls Panthers game.
When is Pete’s last day?
Strikes on the first two pitches to the leadoff batter and walks him. That’s a major reason Gaudin has been mostly mediocre in his career. Nice ground ball DP, though.
Erica, sorry it is late, but I had issues submitting my paper. Blackboard felt the need to upgrade itself in some bizarre way.
1) Jeter
Swisher
2) Damon
3) Teixeira
4) Rodriguez
5) Matsui
6) Posada
7) Canó
9) Cabrera
10) Sabathia
11) Burnett
12) Pettitte
13) Chamberlain
14) Gaudin
15) Gardner
16) Hairston Jr
17) Hinske
18) Molina
19) Pena
20) Rivera
21) Hughes
22) Aceves
23) Bruney
24) Coke
25) Robertson
Jennifer, tomorrow
nice hittin Cano
Cano’s been going oppo recently.
Cool.
Upside: we can all stop being so darn polite about our dislike for the Patriots.
Cano smoked that ball a long way to the opposite field. Another two feet higher and he has #25.
I love it when Cano goes the other way.
His swing has always reminded me of john Olerud
are we going to see a run score here?
Is there ancient baseball history?
Baseball history from the BC era?
Does that history only cover this century?
A wondering world wants to know.
A huge amount of Cano’s hits are to left. Why should that surprise you?
Nice hittin Hinske
All oppo hits.
Hinski with the pool shot.
Ooo I flipped the game back on a fun time. Go Hinske!
Somewhere in bizarro world, a baby Giambi just got his wings.
nice hit by Hinske. the shift giveth and taketh away.
True GB. I’m not surprised, per se. Just impressed.
And that is why Duncan doesn’t play in the bigs.
I’m not watching the game……how’s Gaudin look? I really think he should be on the roster – he could be very useful out of the pen.
Shelley Duncan doing what he does best……..
Also, is Gardner ok? I turned it on before and saw that he got hit by a pitch in the ankle…….
I’m beginning to rethink not having put Gaudin on my ALDS potential roster…
Betsy–I didn’t see Gardner get hit…is he ok?
:/
Valerie, he did go to first base……but I only saw that because I was changing the channel during a commercial. I don’t know if he was taken out or not……..I’m sure he’s fine, but my first reaction was “you’ve got to be kidding”.
Tom in N.J.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
True GB. I’m not surprised, per se. Just impressed.
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Tom, that wasn’t a comment on your post. The other post made it seem as though all Cano does is pull everything. This is the first year that I remember him having pulled more homers than going from right center to lefy center. That’s where his true power is…doubles into the gaps.
baby Giambi… very good.
We might not win this one
Gaudin is pretty much automatic to pitch 4 scoreless innings and then run into trouble in the 5th. He’s done a great job overall but it’s funny how all his starts are almost exactly the same.
I really don’t like the “throw it back” chants on opposition home runs. It is silly, it isn’t going to remove the score, and it just seems bush league to me.
There goes that lead…..let’s see if Gaudin can make a personal breakthrough and get through the 5th inning.
Thanks, Betsy. After his recent wrist injury, getting hurt again would be really bad luck for Gardner.
good recovery
That wasn’t a bad pitch to Teahen. Not sure what happened to him, but, three years ago, I thought he was really going to be something. He started out like a clone of markakis, other than only decent to good defense vs Markakis’ exceptional defense.
It’s kind of a tradition to throw the ball back onto the field. But to me, you have a great souvenir if you keep it, so why not keep it?
BTW, what is it with pitchers getting hit with ground balls? lol
I guess in the NL, Gaudin found it easier to get through lineups; in the AL, he just can’t do it more than once around. He’s still a decent arm for the pen, though…..Cash got him for nothing, so I can’t comnplain no matter what he gives us.
Valerie G. September 28th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
It’s kind of a tradition to throw the ball back onto the field.
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You’re right. It is a tradition…in Wrigley.
You’re welcome, Val…..that would stink, esp. as Gardner makes his living with his feet/legs. Don’t worry about whether they win this game or not – their lineup is Cano, Posada and a bunch of backups. The idea is just to get through the game…….and the important thing is that Gaudin is making a decent case to be on the post-season roster.
Joe has to walk a fine line between resting his players and keeping them sharp….Tonight should be an exception in terms of most of the lineup having the night off
It’s a tradition in every stadium…
I can’t believe people are complaining about Gaudin giving up 1 run 5. Do you expect him to get a shut out? Gaudin? It’s unreasonable to expect CC to get a shutout!
That is precisely why I wanted Pena batting before Cervelli, not after.
Girardi!!
YAY BUT ALSO DAMMIT!
Wow, Pena hits one out!
How cool.
Lol, this is hilarious.
LOL Yankee bench.
Pena is awesome!!!
LMAO. Funny stuff in the dugout.
Yeah… Gaudin gives up 2 hits and 1 run in 5 innings. Cut him.
Awww. that was so nice for Ramiro.
That was priceless…I just love the Yankees!!
Go Ramiro!!
That was priceless…I just love the Yankees!!
Go Ramiro!!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
I’m beginning to rethink not having put Gaudin on my ALDS potential roster…
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I put him on, but left off Hinske and Mitre. Those were my gambles
are people going to scream bloody murder like after a bunt after the Yankees cost themselves a run on the basepaths?
Busted hit and run and makes up for it with his 1st career homer. Congrats to young Mr. Pena.
Pena!
Just so I am clear- through this point
AAAA Yankees > KC Royals
what was going on in the dugout after the home run?
lol @ complaining about Gaudin
Can some of you ever be happy? Can’t even enjoy a ST game?
Good for the kid.
“I can’t believe people are complaining about Gaudin giving up 1 run 5. Do you expect him to get a shut out? Gaudin? It’s unreasonable to expect CC to get a shutout!”
If they are complaining, they are silly indeed.
not that Gaudin is some front line starter but people really need to cut him some slack and quit bashing the guy/writing him off. he’s a solid back end of the rotation guy/long reliever.
much better than some of the other stiffs the Yankees have run out there in recent years.
What happened? I read the Yanks gave Pena the silent treatment? Why would they do that?
Btw- i just got my newest issue of New York magazine
There is a cute rundown of all the Yankee walkoffs this season and their respective pieings.
There is also a funny pic of Swisher fully pie-faced
“Valerie G. September 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
It’s a tradition in every stadium…”
I went to a lot of games from the 50’s – 80’s when I moved from the NYC area. It never was a tradition in YS when I was there.
Its childish and some people just are stupid with where they throw the ball.
AROD ORCHESTRATED THAT…YOU SEE HIM GRAB JETES LOL
Rishi–first big league homer ritual…
LOL I don’t see anyone complaining about Gaudin…………
First homer niiice
How dare our long man/6th starter give up 1 run in 5 innings!!
He needs to pitch a shutout or should be executed!!
Are you freaking kidding me? Cervelli caught stealing and then Pena hits his first career homerun? No one to celebrate with.
I’m not watching, did they give him the silent treatment?
Funny to see the guys set up Pena. All Arod! Might be our time this year
Betsy–it was a first home run razzing-type-thing.
Betsy–it was a first home run razzing-type-thing.
Found the New York magazine walk-off feature online
http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/topic/59474/
Betsy September 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
What happened? I read the Yanks gave Pena the silent treatment? Why would they do that?
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He hit his first career homer and everybody ignored him when he entered the dugout. After he stood there by himself a few seconds, Jorge gave a shout and they all jumped up and mobbed him.
Your last poll should be, which blog will you click on first come Wed, Sam Borden or Pete Abe’s new Sox blog? I have to say I think i’m goig to click on the sox blog.
Val, thanks! I didn’t realize there was even a ritual for first-time homeruns….lol. Poor Pena, he probably got depressed for a minute.
arod is so at home this year
Valerie G.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Rishi–first big league homer ritual…
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gotcha – thanks
Betsy
September 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
What happened? I read the Yanks gave Pena the silent treatment? Why would they do that?
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That’s normal treatment when a player hits his career homer, Betsy. They also mark up a phony baseball with wrong info. Then, later, they give him the real ball.
Awww. There was Pete with all the beat writers.
Rob, thanks! I will try and catch this on the replay – it sounds hilarious, lol.
I’ll be paying a visit to the new blog…I just won’t show my face
Butler owns Gaudin
I feel bad for Pena too! i love how jorge was the first to break it. such a softie!
Betsy–it was priceless
Pete’s my vote. (see how its set up) Plus I will be one of the hater yankee fans that will talk junk and upset the Fake Nation!
I thought the new rule was if the throw beats you you’re out?
yeah, i won’t go on there as pubilis fan.
LOL GB……..but what I want to know is this: why, when my friends and family give me the silent treatment, do they not (after few minutes) cheer and surround me with love? The silent treatment continues………I’m starting to get a complex, lol.
I thought that Jacobs had that one out.
Pete will miss us all. How could he not?
Aww. They love El Nino. Congrats on his first HR.
another nice recovery
or maybe i would go on there as pubilis fan. but then i’d get kicked off.
“I feel bad for Pena too! i love how jorge was the first to break it. such a softie!”
I was surprised, Jorgie is always so serious. Nice to see him smile.
Betsy
September 28th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
LOL GB……..but what I want to know is this: why, when my friends and family give me the silent treatment, do they not (after few minutes) cheer and surround me with love? The silent treatment continues………I’m starting to get a complex, lol.
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Because we’re all little boys, Betsy. Kind of like when little boys like little girls and they punch them, pull their hair or stick their tongue out. It’s a show of affection.
He’d BETTER miss us, Christina.
Or else…
I like that all the starters are sitting on the bench watching and not up in the clubhouse somewhere.
Team effort no matter who is playing.
At least we’re still tied.
I figured I’d pirate a few wins on my fantasy team and so picked up some per-game pitchers. Boy have I bet the wrong horses so far. Tommy Hunter has already given up 3 runs in the first inning in LA. It’s also killing my ERA stat.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
He’d BETTER miss us, Christina.
Or else…
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He will!!!!
noyce dooblay
Jorge was motoring there, lol.
Christina-
I added your submission
Posada with a triple, that he turns into a double.
I agree, Pat.
That Pena home run brought back memories.
It was like my first joke on the Lohud blog.
The dreaded silent treatment from my Yankee peers.
Thankfully, Nick in SF came over and said nice hit kid. Keep em comin, but don’t always swing for the fences. Just say the Patriots cheat once in awhile and you’ll be in with the blog boss. Great advice from the pro.
I don’t exactly know what “or else” means really.. but it sounded good and forceful, lol.
No Offense to Pete, i’ve been reading the blog about 2 years and i really enjoy it, but i won’t be clicking on the sox blog. I’d rather have my blood sucked out by leaches… I live in NH and hear enough about the sox every day, I couldn’t stomach reading a great blog like this about them. Good luck in the new job Pete.
swisher delivers the pie?
Swisher is the designated Pie thrower!
if anyone cares – the RS game is called…Toronto wins 11-5
Nice. Good for you, Shelley!
Great job.
I laugh at you and Nick all the time, DT.
Occasionally, its even out loud when people around me think i’m the resident crazy woman, lol.
Guzman is fast
LOL DT
something tells me Pete and his new sox fans are going to have a much bigger problem with trolls than we did.
Yay, Shelley.
“if anyone cares – the RS game is called…Toronto wins 11-5″
I CARE!!! I CARE!!!
If only the Rangers would cooperate. We did our part!
Guzman is fast! I think he’ll be on the post season roster just for speed.
” which blog will you click on first come Wed, Sam Borden or Pete Abe’s new Sox blog? I have to say I think i’m goig to click on the sox blog.”
I have a feeling Pete will be so distraught and overcome with emotion – he won’t be able to blog for a week after he leaves here.
Plus – he mentioned on Twitter, he won’t start there until next Tues.
I want in on the competition!
1) Jeter
2) Rodriguez
3) Teixeira
4) Damon
5) Posada
6) Matsui
7) Cano
8 )Swisher
9) Cabrera
10) Hairston Jr
11) Molina
12) Guzman
13) Gardner
14) Marte
15) Rivera
16) Pettitte
17) Aceves
18) Sabathia
19) Robertson
20) Burnett
21) Chamberlain
22) Gaudin
23) Hughes
24) Bruney
25) Coke
GB, I was just kidding, lol……..and I must be a little boy at heart. I always tease the ones I like……..
Imagine trying to celebrate clinching the WC while on a losing streak, and you only get it by the other team losing.
That can’t feel real satisfying.
Red sox magic number stuck on 2 pending the outcome of the Rangers game. Yep great idea resting everyone up for the playoffs. What oh oops….
GGBG, meet GGFG.
Boy I hate when players like Gardner regress. He’s a strong, compact kind of player. Before he got hurt he was out of this slap pappy, rinky dink swing of his. He had some extension on his swings and at times was driving the ball hard. Now, not only does he have any extension, he’s rolling over on the outside pitch. It’s a total shame. All he is at this point, is a pinch runner.
dt- Well, if the soxs don’t make it Pete might be back covering the Yankees for the Globe.
Thanks, Erica
Did Coney really give out his actual phone number? I really hope hes joking
“I’d rather have my blood sucked out by leaches… I live in NH and hear enough about the sox every day, I couldn’t stomach reading a great blog like this about them.”
Substitute RI for NH and you have me saying the same thing. I also have never gone on a Sux blog, ever, and I am not going to start now. I have no desire to, actually, and feel I have nothing to add nor nothing I care to talk with them about. It has absolutely nothing to do with Pete.
Nice snag by Juan.
jennifer
September 28th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Swisher is the designated Pie thrower!
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I guess that means that Cano will be the cut-off man. Swisher couldn’t reach the target.
Anyone catch Cone’s phone number? I missed it
Go Baby Yanks!
“UPDATE, 10:29 p.m.:
Here’s my question: If the Yankees win in a walk-off, who administers the pie?”
I think Nick Swisher will make history by being the first player to pie himself during the on-field interview.
Here’s my question: If the Yankees win in a walk-off, who administers the pie?
I nominate Big CC or Swishalicious as Designated Pie Administrator.
GJ Chad!
I’m going to send Cone a copy of this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-S.....1400049628
Good game for Gaudin.
is david cone joking about giving out his real phone number during a broadcast or did he really give his real number? i know he gave a number out but know way he would be that crazy
Coney gave out the first 9 numbers. A little trial and error gave them the 10th number.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
“I’d rather have my blood sucked out by leaches… I live in NH and hear enough about the sox every day, I couldn’t stomach reading a great blog like this about them.”
Substitute RI for NH and you have me saying the same thing. I also have never gone on a Sux blog, ever, and I am not going to start now. I have no desire to, actually, and feel I have nothing to add nor nothing I care to talk with them about. It has absolutely nothing to do with Pete.
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I like to listen to weei when the socks lose it makes me laugh to listen to all the idiots go crazy.
When did he do that?
And the way to stop Kay from advancing is with condiments.
Kruk: Joba will never be King Felix.
Kruk: Shelly can hit.
NO way Rangers make the playoffs they stink. The Socks will be in the playoffs
Betsy
September 28th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
GB, I was just kidding, lol……..and I must be a little boy at heart. I always tease the ones I like……..
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We’ll see, Betsy. The other night you mentioned something about Mrs. Wilkes in Savannah being only open for lunch. That’s true. If you want a great steak, my suggestion is The Chart House on River Street. great view of the river, fire place, beautiful and great food and service. They have very good seafood, also. You’ll love it.
I know he gave out his number, minus the number at the end, in a previous broadcast and said that he had received an astronomical number of text messages. I think it was Singleton who said it would be easy enough for people to guess it since there were only 10 possible numbers that could be added to the end.
Signing off now…bye everybody!
Go NYY!
Red Sox game called after 7 innings, BJs win
Acerbic Hatchet. Caught that late. Well done.
wow I missed that. Didn’t know he gave out most of the numbers. Darnit!
Rangers are losing 4-0 to the Angels so far. Looks like the Red Sox just have to breathe and let Texas do the work.
How funny a lot of other people probably got text say. Hey CONE MAN YOU ROCK! They were probably like what the heck!
beep beep beep beep that is the sound of the soxs backing into the playoffs.
GB, I love a good steak, but we can get that in NY. We’re only in Savannah two nights, so I’m going to try and steer my parents to restaurants that can only be found in Savannah…..I appreciate the recommendation and the next time I’m down there (and there WILL be a next time), I will put it on my list.
I would have just gone for stright out A H. But who’s counting.
The Red Sox don’t have to win another game.
Yanks doing more community service work today.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.1483666
Nice pop for Cervelli.
I don’t get it – Cervelli can’t hit a beachball in the minors but hits pretty well in the majors.
nice hit by Frankie Angel Eyes Cervelli
Cervelli with a shocker. That was a hard hit ball to the opposite field.
Anyway Nick, you and I have a truce and it will not be undone by purile references by your understudy in attempt to get you back to the dark side!
we have some nice young talent
JALAPENA!!
Pena on fireeeeee!!!
Pena thinks he’s too good for small ball.
how good is pena.
And some people were worried about the Yankee lineup. Tch tch tch.
Ahhh did Cone just said the 2 “youts”? MY cousin vinny = best movie ever!
Dan
September 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I don’t get it – Cervelli can’t hit a beachball in the minors but hits pretty well in the majors.
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Some players are AAAA players. Cervelli is a true major leaguer in the making!
DT is a pro and a great contributor in his own right, understudy to no one.
A truce is preferable to no truce, but it is not the same as a peace treaty. As previously stated.
“I would have just gone for stright out A H. But who’s counting.”
you just can’t go throwing out A-H, Ad Hoc willy-nilly.
There is detente to worry about.
Pel (a/k/a Bart Simpson, a/k/a O.J. Simpson)
September 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
JALAPENA!!
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VERY funny!
I don’t know, considering that the team tonight is mostly derided as the “scrubs” the people who stuck it out there, have gotten to see a pretty good game so far.
The scrubs have accounted pretty well for themselves.
“A truce is preferable to no truce, but it is not the same as a peace treaty. As previously stated.”
Why don’t you explain your understanding of the differences.
RT @baldvinny: the guy who caught penas hr traded it for a ball signed by the bullpen (minus mariano). no deal!
they won the division and swept the sox, yet folks are bickering over dave robertson and shelly duncan? i guess one night of peace is too much to ask. yikes.
no wonder pete hollered at all of you.
It’s weird seeing so much speed in the lineup.
Pena making a case to be in the postseason roster instead of Guzman.
Betsy
September 28th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
GB, I love a good steak, but we can get that in NY. We’re only in Savannah two nights, so I’m going to try and steer my parents to restaurants that can only be found in Savannah…..I appreciate the recommendation and the next time I’m down there (and there WILL be a next time), I will put it on my list.
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If you like seafood, you’ll have plenty to chose from. All along River Street…out in Thunderbolt, Tybee Island. Johnny Harris’ on Victory Drive.
http://www.google.com/search?s.....estaurants
If only Pena was wearing his catwoman suit tonight while playing.
hmm yeah, Pena and Cervelli are padding their stats today. would be nice if Miranda joins the fun too. =(
Wow.
Nice.
“If only Pena was wearing his catwoman suit tonight while playing.”
maybe he is underneath. lol
Cervelli and Pena would be starting on a lot of teams in this major league of baseball and on the Yankees they are 3rd string. Goes to show you the strength of this roster.
We have a good bench!!!
Please lord let me see a grand slam
Gaudin should be a surer bet than Joba.
Carl
September 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Please lord let me see a grand slam
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I’m with you!
Who knew Cano would ever find himself in this position today?
Johnny D.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Gaudin should be a surer bet than Joba.
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Both are surer bet than Mitre.
It’s still mind boggling to me that the Yankees have hit 230 homeruns and only 1 has been a grandslam. And that came by Jose Molina, the worst HR hitter on the team.
Good article pat, but that newsday website is sure brutal. Why they have a black backdrop is besides me.
“Please lord let me see a grand slam”
check You Tube. He might have more pressing needs.
lol
Pete – i hope that your replacement has the same sense of humor at 11 PM with 2 minor league teams playing.
YEs!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY FRIGGIN GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111
WOW…a granny? wow!!!
Carl!! Robbie decided to oblige you!
Robbie!!!
Wow.
CANO!!!! risp!!!
Haha they were due for a grandslam. Nice job, Cano.
Lord….what a beautiful swing by Cano.
it would be something if that cured Robbie’s hitting with RISP woes
too bad that only counts for one hit for his RISP average. Grand Slams should count for more
fear us! nice going robbie!
““Please lord let me see a grand slam”
check You Tube. He might have more pressing needs.”
but then again… it might be a slow night up there.
Did that really just happen?
Ask and you shall receive.
A truce is a cessation of open hostilities.
A peace treaty, unless forced by a victor onto the defeated, involves the addressing of past grievances.
Robinson Cano just forced a peace treaty onto that baseball; they will never come to blows again.
Cano
Robbie only hit a gs cause the pressure is off now. This game means nothing! He is just padding his stats. The game was already well in hand!
j/k
amazing! can’t wait for the video to be loaded tomorrow
Hip, Hip, Cano?
AAA Scranton pounding the AAAA Royals… yikes. Perhaps it’s time for the Royals GM to start re-strategizing…?
Awesome for the young guns Peña & Cervelli.
This is why KC has a 64-92 win-loss record. If we don’t win all of the final games of the season, it would shock me.
Will we see Farnsworth?
You know- Cano looks like a natural int he #3 spot.
hmm yeah, the Royals are being whipped by the SWB Yanks, plus Cano, Posada, and Hinske.
Let’s all take a moment to revel in the fact that the Yankees of 2009 have speed (Pena, Miranda) and power (Hinske) and utility (Hairston Jr.) on the BENCH.
Is Kyle still with the Royals?
Someone drop Shaugnessy an email and tell him some teams can win without their A line-up.
For a game full of scrubs, this has been exciting to watch. It’s definitely more fun watching Pena and Cervelli get huge hits than it is watching seasoned vets like Jeter and Tex, much as I love those guys.
if all the Yankees AAA pitchers weren’t in Pittsburgh right now – it might have been a shutout tonight.
Dave, Miranda does NOT have speed. power, yes. speed no.
Five runs in and still no outs?
WOW, I love the SWB Yanks!!
Pete, your commentary has seemed less emotional, more mocking and simply insulting considering the loyalty of your fans and the fact you’re abandoning us soon. Can you put some life into your final few days? Come on.
“Let’s all take a moment to revel in the fact that the Yankees of 2009 have speed (Pena, Miranda) and power (Hinske) and utility (Hairston Jr.) on the BENCH”
no one has ever accused miranda of having speed..
I STILL wanna see a Miranda home run before the night is over.
Sorry but the final jeopardy music ran out a long time ago. Anyway a truce is more than enough for me.
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Because I think it is safe to do this right now, I will give you the updated Prediction list.
UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
(CURRENTLY STANDS AT 101 WINS)
Created on April 6, 2009
poster # of games
TOMPASS 124





































S.O.S. 118
ROB THOMPSON 110
*RAYVT 107
#2 FOR PREZ 106
*ANGEL 105
PEL 105
BACKBENCH 105
*TOM B 104
DR. COX 104
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
MG 102
THE PREDIKTER 101
*L-tothe2ND 101
LORI 100
MEL 100
TEX’S NEW BF 100
PATRICK 100
*ERICA 100
BARDOS 99
VIN 99
JENNIFER 99
ED 99
*NYY626 99
DT 99
*STEVE-B 99
LAURA 98
PETE ABE 98
RISHI 98
RUSSW210 98
CLAYB 98
DOREEN 98
RB15 98
TOM IN NJ 97
FRAN 97
S.A. 97
HOKIEHILL 97
UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97
#2 FOR PREZ 96
GAYLE 96
PAT 96
WESTERNER99 96
PSYLUCK 96
STEVEB 96
MICHAEL KAY 96
JOHN IN OHIO 95
MARK 95
B-DAVE 94
*WAIT TIL THEY COME 94
* added 7/29 or later
And some people were complaning the people that paid for the tickets should get their money back. That gran slam should make em happy.
How are they losing so badly to a triple A lineup with 3 regulars?
Erica, are you still around?
“Dave, Miranda does NOT have speed. power, yes. speed no.”
He’s got good speed according to the criteria of a late-addition to the postseason roster (right?) – and I have a feeling his SB tonight wasn’t representative.
Dave
September 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Let’s all take a moment to revel in the fact that the Yankees of 2009 have speed (Pena, Miranda) and power (Hinske) and utility (Hairston Jr.) on the BENCH.
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If Miranda was racing a Belgian Draft Horse, then, yeah, he’s got speed. It would be close, though.
No justice, no peace.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
“Let’s all take a moment to revel in the fact that the Yankees of 2009 have speed (Gardner, Guzman, Pena) and power (Hinske, Miranda) and utility (Hairston Jr.) on the BENCH”
Fixed it for you.
Trisha-
Don’t know why I feel the need to point this out, but whoever #2 for Prez is, cheated and made 2 guesses
Dave,
Are you sure you don’t mean Guzman?
True, but when you can slug like Miranda can, and can drive the ball all over the park like Miranda can, and when you can slug as a lefty in Yankee Stadium like Miranda can – who the hell needs speed?
.
But you’re right, that fellow is thinking of someone else.
“He’s got good speed according to the criteria of a late-addition to the postseason roster (right?) – and I have a feeling his SB tonight wasn’t representative.”
what the hell are you reading? you definitely got the wrong person.
Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock
September 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Erica, are you still around?
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Yuppers. What’s up??
“September 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
“Let’s all take a moment to revel in the fact that the Yankees of 2009 have speed (Gardner, Guzman, Pena) and power (Hinske, Miranda) and utility (Hairston Jr.) on the BENCH”
Fixed it for you.”
thank you thank you thank you
What game are you watching? Miranda hasn’t got a stolen base. He hasn’t even gotten on base.
I’ve seen Miranda close to a dozen times this year in AAA and he definitely does not have speed. Shelley Duncan has more speed than him
“Dave,
Are you sure you don’t mean Guzman?”
Yes – my mistake everyone
Doreen-
Btw, I made an executice decision. I have decided to not purchase a Wii after all and I am going to purchase a Kindle instead around Thanksgiving
GreenBeret7 September 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
What game are you watching? Miranda hasn’t got a stolen base. He hasn’t even gotten on base.
lol
He’s got bat speed though. I would love for Miranda to come off our bench. He’s a better hitter than Hinske, although I see the value of Hinske.
lol. Some fool is yelling for michael kay. Suzyn’s asking Sterling, “Does he really think if he keeps calling michael, that he’ll stop broadcasting to talk to him?”
It must be empty, cuz you can here a couple of people yelling, “michael! michael!”
Poor Royals. The Yankees run out a half minor league team, and still put up 8 runs on you.
“No justice, no peace.”
It’s really a take it or leave it proposition. I decided to attempt to be civil because it was unfair for the forum to have to be exposed to continual bickering. I live nicely this way. I am civil to you, you are civil to me. I desire no more, and no less.
Erica – always OPPC September 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock
September 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Erica, are you still around?
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Yuppers. What’s up??
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I just saw the commercial for the postseason suites on TV which led me to being bummed. They must not be selling though if they are advertising them on tv, right?
For those who keep track of such things-
Robbie Cano, who never hits with RISP (according to some people), now has one more grand slam than Derek Jeter
Erica =
I think that’s a wise decision. If you’re an avid reader, you will definitely get more use out of the Kindle than the Wii. Wii is great, but you really have to have a lot of spare time at home to get the most out of it. Reading is a lot more portable!
I might ask for one for Christmas!
Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock
September 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
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I just saw the commercial for the postseason suites on TV which led me to being bummed. They must not be selling though if they are advertising them on tv, right?
*****
I think the same thing everytime I see that commercial. I still think we can totally double team Cashman and negotiate
Erica, I put my 25 guys like almost an hour ago. I hope it counts
All the guys in the bullpen signed a ball and put it in a case for the fan who gave Pena’s HR ball back. I love this team.
Maybe people are confusing Miranda Speed with Miranda Rights.
Wow, I can’t believe Pena and Cervelli are both hitting over .290 right now.
I guess Melancon will close out the 9th inning, tonight.
We have on more game to stalk Cashman by the elevator….
“Don’t know why I feel the need to point this out, but whoever #2 for Prez is, cheated and made 2 guesses”
Erica, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more my making some kind of mistake. I am not great with numbers and charts and definitely got some of the stuff wrong at the beginning and had people correcting me. I actually asked people to watch to make sure I had their stuff represented right.
I didn’t realize there was a double. If I knew better how to search the archives here I could try to go back and find it!
two more games actually… I think it can work if we ask nicely.
Doreen
September 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Erica =
I think that’s a wise decision. If you’re an avid reader, you will definitely get more use out of the Kindle than the Wii. Wii is great, but you really have to have a lot of spare time at home to get the most out of it. Reading is a lot more portable!
I might ask for one for Christmas!
*****
Thats the whole thing. As cool as the Wii looks, a gaming system is definitely not what is missing from my life. Between my insand TV habit, the Yankees, my job, and some sort of social life, I really have no time for video games.
Plus, the games are not cheap.
I am an avid reader. And I was thinking the Kindle would be perfect for my New Years trip to Vegas.
So my mind is rather made up
trisha,
Can you change my frown into a smiley face, please?
sooo..after today, should Cashman call up Kevin Russo to take over Cano’s place tomorrow? since Hairston is still injuried.
My heavens, the Angels are beating the Rangers 7-0 going into the bottom of the 4th. They’ve scored every inning. What happened to the Rangers’ pitching?
Yanks_Fan
September 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Erica, I put my 25 guys like almost an hour ago. I hope it counts
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I am not feeling very Gestapo-ish tonight. Even though you were way late on the deadline I accepted it. Consider it a gesture of goodwill and good luck in the contest
GreenBeret7
September 28th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
I guess Melancon will close out the 9th inning, tonight.
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If he does, I’ll fly my kite at midnight.
For all of the complaints about Cano not hitting with EISP, I suggest looking at his numbers before this year. This is just a fluke year. For such a slug, 84 RBI and 102 runs scored ain’t bad.
m, I actually put out that proposition the other night. It might be better to have the higher numbers coming down as frowns, and the lower numbers going up, as smiles. What do you think?
But then what symbol do I use for the eventual winner(s)?
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
“Don’t know why I feel the need to point this out, but whoever #2 for Prez is, cheated and made 2 guesses”
Erica, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more my making some kind of mistake. I am not great with numbers and charts and definitely got some of the stuff wrong at the beginning and had people correcting me. I actually asked people to watch to make sure I had their stuff represented right.
I didn’t realize there was a double. If I knew better how to search the archives here I could try to go back and find it!
*****
Its really not a big deal. I just noticed it this week when I posted the chart for you. I am ridiculously anal when it comes to things like that. But I admit I have a problem
Cano not hitting with ***RISP***
Yay!!!!
“JalaPeña” gets the Play of The game.
Erica – I had my 25 man roster guess all typed up and ready to hand in, and my dog ate it.
Too tired to retype it, I’ll just check the lawn tomorrow…
Christina- Pictures of the Girardi and A-Rod ejection + Leiter’s Sock
September 28th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
two more games actually… I think it can work if we ask nicely.
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How low cut of a shirt will you wear when we ask nicely? LOL
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Erica – I had my 25 man roster guess all typed up and ready to hand in, and my dog ate it.
Too tired to retype it, I’ll just check the lawn tomorrow…
****
Did the Microsoft Office assistant doggie really eat your homework???
Trisha,
I’ve been chuckling conspiratorially with you all weekend over Little Dusty’s futility in the Bronx.
I like the idea of a Kindle, but I discovered I can use my Ipod Touch to read books in much the same way. I’m reading so much more now that I can take books with me on the go, I bet the Kindle does the same thing.
“I am not feeling very Gestapo-ish tonight. Even though you were way late on the deadline I accepted it. Consider it a gesture of goodwill and good luck in the contest”
!
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Thats why you are my favorite poster here
Viva La Yanks!!
Not good, kids. They don’t need to give away at bats. It’s not the score….it’s the bad habits.
Erica, you are a credit to your profession! I just did a search on it and see what you mean. I may try to find the April 6th lohud blog and go from there. But unless there is some magic way to do it, the thought of hitting “previous” a million times just isn’t attractive!
Yanks_Fan
September 28th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
“I am not feeling very Gestapo-ish tonight. Even though you were way late on the deadline I accepted it. Consider it a gesture of goodwill and good luck in the contest”
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Thats why you are my favorite poster here !
Viva La Yanks!!
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Awww, thank you. You make me blush
The kids did amazing tonight. Happy for them.
I think Ozzie’s comment also applies to KC.
This is a team who doesn’t wanna play baseball anymore, they have lost their pride.
“Did the Microsoft Office assistant doggie really eat your homework???”
yes, it was Power Pup – my Microsoft Assistant Helper.
I knew I should have stuck with Clippy.
Bod, had you been around I was actually going to give you the full rendition and not just the final stanza! I would have had to be creative but I think I could have done it. That game yesterday deserved the entire poem. But since I didn’t see you I didn’t see the sense in wasting the effort when only you would have appreciated it!
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
September 28th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Erica, you are a credit to your profession! I just did a search on it and see what you mean. I may try to find the April 6th lohud blog and go from there. But unless there is some magic way to do it, the thought of hitting “previous” a million times just isn’t attractive!
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There are monthly archives on the right side of the blog. You can go directly to April 2009. But I don’t thinka nyone noticed until I pointed it out.
And my insane power of observation does help me lots at work
I was just kidding. I wanted the smiley to myself because, you know, I’m so awesome!!!!!
You know when I made that prediction, I really wanted to say more. That’s how good I felt about this team. But I didn’t want to jinx the team or be an obnoxious fangirl.
101 and still going…
There hasn’t been one great play needed tonight to get the Yanks out of trouble. A couple of hard hits, but, Gaudin and the bullpen has been sterling (no…not John), tonight.
This was actually a pretty fun game to watch
Trisha, I don’t blame you for prefering the status quo. You get the better of the deal, having neither backed up nor apologized for the objectionable things you said.
It was my mistake to let your trash talking annoy me, so the truce is fine but you wanted to know how a truce was different from peace; now you know.
thata’s a pretty quick game considering the score
“And my insane power of observation does help me lots at work.”
Does the woman in the cubicle next to you think so?
The Yankees wiiiiiiiiin!
Good game.
TurboWei
September 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
I think Ozzie’s comment also applies to KC.
This is a team who doesn’t wanna play baseball anymore, they have lost their pride.
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Really? Boston didn’t think so.
okay seriously, there is no stopping this team now. they could win anything right now, even with this lineup.
Nice game. Really nice game.
101!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pena sounds really happy
“I think Ozzie’s comment also applies to KC.
This is a team who doesn’t wanna play baseball anymore, they have lost their pride.”
I can’t agree with this. KC had gone 7 and 3 in their most recent 10 games when the Sux marched in, and they took the first two games from the Sux. Last night Zack Greinke won his 16th game, beating the Twins last night. You only can do what you can do. The Yanks are the best team in baseball, even with their B/C lineup in the game.
45 games above .500
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
“Did the Microsoft Office assistant doggie really eat your homework???”
yes, it was Power Pup – my Microsoft Assistant Helper.
I knew I should have stuck with Clippy.
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Funny story-
A bunch of years back when I first started working, I was at a client working in a small room with two guys who were both higher ranking than me. I tend to be a very distracting influence and would pretty much ramble on all day long about anything (if you can believe such a thing).
I used to use the doggie Office assistant because he was cute. So one day I was annoying the guys so much they kept yelling at me to be quiet. So I finally agreed I would be quiet. Then the office dog on my computer let out a bark.
So the guy yells at me, “What the heck is wrong with you? You are resorting to barking for us??”.
I was laughing so hard I couldn’t even speak
I’ve changed my mind. I want Aceves as the #5 starter next season.
Jan-Ken-Po (rock-paper-scissors) decides which of Joba and Phil goes to the bullpen next season.
I went to the Friday/Saturday games and Jets on Sunday, listening to Yanks on radio at latter and watched the ESPN replay in my hotel room.
Left the computer at home.
I did miss the punctuation of the little poem, though, very much
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And I was meaning to tell you, that, somewhere….
Robi’s YES on-field post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/7PUo
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 28th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
“And my insane power of observation does help me lots at work.”
Does the woman in the cubicle next to you think so?
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She is not insane. She is annoying. Huge difference
We actually work in different departments so I don’t interact much with her. I just hear her muttering to herself and yelling at her computer all day because she can never figure out what she is doing
Thanks Pel
“having neither backed up nor apologized for the objectionable things you said. ”
Here’s the difference between us. I don’t need an apology for all of the objectionable things you said. I don’t care enough. I’m fine with being civil.
Nick and Trisha-
I am witnessing the worst truce/civility pact ever. Seriously.
Don’t make me send you to the O’neill banner. Just quit it
Trish,
I should add, as far as the longer version, you’ll have some time to compose, provided Little Dusty and his little group show up in the ALCS
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Oh yes. THAT is the difference between us.
Let’s just drop it before matt shows up and chides me.
Get a (court)room, guys.
“And I was meaning to tell you, that, somewhere….”
Okay tell ya what. Next time you are here, I am going to have that postgame review for you, but this will be the whole enchilada. I’ll have to do a little work to get it in shape.
Meanwhile, the Sux lose 4 in a row and Texas loses ground. Shame on them.
“Let’s just drop it before matt shows up and chides me.”
passive-aggressive much?
It’s all good Nick. Work out your angst whatever way you need to.
Trisha,
Looking forward
.
Texas, for whatever reason, lost interest.
From a baseball perspective, though, I eagerly await the Boston-LAA series. Nothing is better than winning your own Game 1 and relaxing on the off day, watching the other guys battle it out.
Erica, Nick isn’t getting his way and when that happens he spins out of control.
I am happy to go back to what was happening previous to this little departure. I have no difficulty ignoring him but will not sit aside like a mope if he takes shots. If people can’t deal with that, that’s really too bad.
If he wants to continue to have civil interchange, I am happy to do that too.
magic # = (-3)
Hi folks…
Just got back from the game…yes, I know it just ended. Let’s just say my sister is not a die-hard fan. We left after the 5th – got to see El Nino’s HR (that was really cool) – got to the car in time to hear Shelly’s go ahead single. I didn’t even know KC had scored a second run. Heard Cano’s GS in the car.
I need to find someone who’s willing to wait out rain delays.
David Cone is making an awfully big assumption.
I have a feeling we’ll be heading to the West Coast in ALCS.
“Nothing is better than winning your own Game 1 and relaxing on the off day, watching the other guys battle it out.”
I’m with ya.
Interesting game for Pete’s finale…
nice win by swb
Great win by the Yankees tonight. Pena, Cervelli and Gaudin was awesome. This team with one of great pitchers on the mound could win w/anyone in the field. lol.
correction: were awesome.
“Doreen September 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
My heavens, the Angels are beating the Rangers 7-0 going into the bottom of the 4th. They’ve scored every inning. What happened to the Rangers’ pitching?”
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Isn’t this the team that has been told all year by Nolan Ryan that the pitchers need to push for one more inning when they think they are done?
Maybe, just maybe, they have emptied the tanks.
Too often in recent years, we have seen where younger arms are pushed a little too much and then they just have little left. While some feel it is babying the pitchers by limiting them with pitch counts and innings pitched, going up more gradually. A lot of research had been done to come to that conclusion. While it may not apply to every one, the risks of injury or just becoming plain worn out are higher when they are pushed too much.
YES post-game Booth Report with Bob Lorenz, Michael Kay, and David Cone:
http://bit.ly/1cxLAB
bodhi,
I’m not assuming we’ll be joining them in the ALCS, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Angels won their half of the draw.
Their only real question mark is their bullpen.
As for who I’d prefer? It’s tough. I don’t look forward to Angel Stadium. But I don’t look forward to Boston, even though I think we match up better against them.
I don’t care what team they face in the ALCS, mainly because it means they got there.
A best of 7 series gives the best team in baseball a good chance to move to the WS against any team they have to face.
Pete questioning Joe Girardi!!!
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/ZUVdp
With today’s win, the yankees are guaranteed to not have a losing record against any team this season, even if they lose the next 5 games. They’ve won most of their season series and tied the rest. Pretty impressive.
m,
I agree we match up better vs. Boston, which doesn’t trump us in any phase of the game, IMO.
Angels, I think, would be a tougher opponent, but i’d still favor the powerful Yankees – power pitching, power hitting, etc.
The Angels BP isn’t good, but their SP is under rated and the lineup is very deep, and much more patient than in past years.
The travel is the true culprit when it comes to Angel Stadium, IMO.
I really look forward to watching that Bos-LAA series, regardless of outcome.
m
“magic # = (-3)”
Terrific. I was wondering when we would see this mathematical issue addressed.
m, in this particular case, perhaps you should keep that to yourself.
Trisha, if you want to call my reference to matt ‘passive-agressive’ as opposed to subtle, that’s a legitimate interpretation. But to follow up that with “Work out your angst whatever way you need to” suggests either open hypocrisy or severe tone-deafness.
And then to write “Nick isn’t getting his way and when that happens he spins out of control” is just taking that hypocrisy/unawareness to the next level.
The baseball team I root for won tonight and I answered your question, so I don’t know how I didn’t get my way. I didn’t for a second expect any more out of you than I got, though I could have done with less. Maybe that’s what you mean.
awwwww look at Pena. Huge Smile. He’s so ecstatic!
Erica, I actually found it. Thanks for pointing it out.
number 2 for prez
April 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
trisha,
I got 106!
I made the change.
Nick, let’s roll it back to yesterday and proceed. Pete deserves to have a nice last few days. I intend to do what I can to be part of that.
Just thought it’d be interesting to share that the only other Yankee player besides Joe DiMaggio to score 400 runs, bat .300, get 850 basehits and 85 homeruns in his first five years is Robinson Cano.
pena seems like such a nice guy…its great to see guys like him perform on the big stage…hes went from a guy nobody thought would ever amount to anything, to possibly being on the post season roster….great year for him
Gaudin’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/47z20w
Pena’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/12B0G9
Gaudin’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/47z20w
It looked like Ramiro had the belt in his locker.
Pena’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/12B0G9
“The baseball team I root for won tonight and I answered your question, so I don’t know how I didn’t get my way.”
It was the “no justice no peace” that did it. Otherwise you would have most definitely gotten less rather than more!
“With today’s win, the yankees are guaranteed to not have a losing record against any team this season…, ”
What about The Nationals? The Phillies?
The Angels are leading 10-0 in the bottom of the 6th. Maybe the Rangers are so unused to success that they just caved at the end. Or maybe, as someone pointed out, they didn’t take the care with their young arms and they all tired out.
The Angels will probably be clinching tonight. Somehow I can’t see Texas coming back in this game. They are don’t have anything left to give.
Peña should be happy. He looks star struck. He seems like a good kid from how his teammates are with him.
I am off to bed. Good night Yankee people!!!!!
Agree.
“The Angels will probably be clinching tonight. Somehow I can’t see Texas coming back in this game. They are don’t have anything left to give.”
Agree
Nick,
Keep what to myself?
If that’s your way of telling me to keep my nose out of your business, I’m all for that.
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Gotta love ESPN’s Baseball Tonight. They just said, “if the Yankees have a weakness, it may be CC Sabathia.”
I’m not joking.
Ryan has been preaching all year about making the pitchers go deep, throw out the pitch counts, saying to give more when they think they are done.
Today’s players haven’t been brought up that way. They are on pitch counts/limits from the earliest games they play.
I fully respect Nolan Ryan, but he is from an era where arms were pushed and ruined in many cases. The successful ones of his days were horses. Trouble is there were probably a ton of pitchers who had short careers because they were used so heavy and couldn’t stand up to the work load so early.
When arms are wearing down they lose control and command and some speed. I think that is some of what we are seeing from Texas.
It doesn’t help that they play in such hot weather either. They are usually gassed by this time of year anyway.
“Gotta love ESPN’s Baseball Tonight. They just said, “if the Yankees have a weakness, it may be CC Sabathia.”
I’m not joking.”
if the goal is to squeeze into a pair of size 32 jeans, yeah he is the weakness. Going for a World Series trophy, not so much.
Heyy my girls I luv yankees
I luv ham,
So playoff innings don’t get Andy any additional dough?