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Tigers and Twins the compelling series

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 28, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As the Yankees fulfill their professional obligations by playing the Kansas City Royals in a meaningless series, the Detroit Tigers will be hosting the Minnesota Twins in a four-game series that will likely decide who the Yankees face the American League Division Series.

The Tigers (83-72) lead the Twins (81-74) by two games with seven to play. The winner gets to come to Yankee Stadium and face CC Sabathia in Game 1 of the postseason on Oct. 7 or 8.

The Twins have won nine of the 14 meetings between the teams so far. For Joe Mauer (.371/.444/.602) it’s also a chance to wrap up the MVP, if he hasn’t already.

The pitching matchups:

Tonight: RHP Nick Blackburn (11-11, 4.18) vs. RHP Rick Porcello (14-9, 4.14)

Tuesday: Brian Duensing (5-1, 3.33) vs. RHP Justin Verlander (19-7, 3.41)

Wednesday: RHP Carl Pavano (13-11, 4.86) vs. RHP Eddie Bonine (0-1, 4.60)

Thursday: RHP Scott Baker (14-9, 4.48) vs. LHP Nate Robertson (2-2, 5.56)

Gadzooks! It’s the American Idle pitching in a big game. The notorious Carl Pavano is 4-3, 3.84 in 10 starts for the Twins. The Idle has four more wins this season than in the entire four seasons he spent swindling the Yankees.

Do you have a preference? Vote in the poll over to the right.

I’d say that you should want the Twins. The Tigers can throw some formidable pitching at you and crafty old Jim Leyland beat the Yankees back in 2006. The Yankees were 7-0 against the Twins this season and 5-1 against the Tigers.

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283 Responses to “Tigers and Twins the compelling series”

  1. Bronx Jeers September 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Hey, Don’t sell Pavano short. That was 9 wins over 4 years.

    Or, roughly $4.44 million a win.

  2. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    I am rooting for all 4 games to go into extra innings, and Verlander to throw about 130 pitches in his start.

    That said, I would prefer to see the Yankees face up against the Tigers. I think that this year would go a lot differently than 2006, and I think it will provide an appropriate level of difficulty to start the playoffs by facing Verlander and Jackson in the first round.

    It will be tough to win against them, but it can be done. The Yankees are familiar with both of them, especially Jackson who seems to pitch against them all the time these last 2 years, and regardless of their nastiness and resumes, I think this team can and should beat the best every time.

  3. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    If Carl Pavano vs. Eddie Bonine doesn’t scream pennant race baseball, I don’t what does.

  4. Former Box 607 September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Pete:

    The interesting thing is the Yankees don’t have to decide until an hour after the Central division champion is crowned. That could be next week.

    That said, the Twins would appear to be the more vanquishible opponent from a pitching standpoint.

  5. L to the 2nd September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    That’ll be a fun series to watch.

    It’s nice to relax for a week & watch someone else sweat it out.

  6. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    “I am rooting for all 4 games to go into extra innings, and Verlander to throw about 130 pitches in his start.”

    What you really root for is his next start being Sunday, rather than Game 1.

  7. E-gawa September 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    I don’t want the hotter team.

  8. E-gawa September 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    This year it doesn’t matter who we match up against.

    We’re better than them.

  9. Rick September 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    The picture of the little dust mite ……… priceless.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....are_ahead/

  10. Blackaccord September 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    no one other than Mauer scares you in that lineup.. Atleast the Tigers have Cabrera, Granderson and Inge.. Polanco is a very good hitter as well..

    As for pitching, I would rather have the yanks face pitchers like pavano, blackburn, baker etc rather than having to face Verlander (twice), jackson and porcello..In a short series, two good pitchers can shut down any team.. So I would prefer the Twins..

  11. CountryClub September 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Verlander is lined up to pitch the last game of the regular season. Let’s hope the race goes down to the very end. That would set him up to pitch game 3 or game 2 on short rest.

    Either scenario is better than him being ready for game 1.

  12. jennifer September 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    How about a who cares, who ever we get we get answer. Another poll I cannot answer. I am not going to wish for one team over another. The last two times we did that we got bounced in the first round.

  13. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    jen, I responded to something you said but it is now two threads ago!

    I agree about the poll also. I really don’t care who we play. Bring ‘em on!!!

    :)

  14. Michael September 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    One thing Pete forgot, if these two teams finish the season tied, The Twins will get the home game for the one game playoff. The problem with that is they can’t play next Monday because of the Vikings game on Monday night. The one game playoff would then probably be played Tuesday. I’m rooting for a tie.

  15. Vincent September 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    The Tigers beat the Yanks because Zumaya was throwing 101mph fastballs that were hitting the black and coming from a sunlit mound while the Yanks were in the shade. I’ll take their chances against the 2009 Tigers.

  16. jennifer September 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    trisha which thread?

  17. Darrin September 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    What we really want is for the two teams to finish tied in the standings. That would require Verlander to pitch Sunday and then Jackson to pitch in the 1 game playoff on Monday or Tuesday.

    Then, if the Tigers win the playoff, I think they’ll have to start Doyle Alexander in Game 1.

  18. Jim the VT Yankeefan September 28th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Rex September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    If Carl Pavano vs. Eddie Bonine doesn’t scream pennant race baseball, I don’t what does.

    ============================================

    LOL, post of the day!

  19. Bill September 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “no one other than Mauer scares you in that lineup.. Atleast the Tigers have Cabrera, Granderson and Inge.. Polanco is a very good hitter as well..”

    As hitters, Mauer > Cabrera, Kubel > Granderson, and Cuddyer > Inge. And Polanco, like the others on both teams, are essentially zeroes.

    Accordingly, the Twins have outscored the Tigers by 50 runs this year. If you’d rather see the Twins, it should be because of pitching, not the lineup (though frankly, the Twins are just a better team all around).

  20. Darrin September 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    jennifer: Words of widsom

    Baseball is the one sport above all others where you have to be most careful for what you wish for.

  21. Betsy September 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Don’t care about this series – whatever happens, whoever wins, the Yankees still have to beat them. I have no preference whatsoever.

    The Boston media may as well just admit they are on the payroll of the Sox…………Bob Ryan and co. are completely irrelevant and impossible to take seriously. What a bunch of spoiled whiners – upset that the Yankees have proven thus far to be the better team, they resort to outright lies (Yankees going all out, Sox not caring) and continue to pander to their audience.

    I’m not saying the Sox should care one way or the other – they are going to be in the playoffs and have an equal shot at getting to the WS as the Yankees do, objectively speaking. They control their own destiny – whether they finish first or second really doesn’t matter. Everything is now a blank slate – it doesn’t matter what the Sox road record is now or what the Yankees home record is. That’s fine…….just get into the playoffs by hook or by crook. I don’t care about the Sox attitude, but I detest the Boston media and I now have new reason to hope the Sox get killed by the Angels.

  22. G. Love September 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    I think I’d rather see the Twins. I think our pitching staff can hold that lineup down for a short series.

    The only thing about the Twins is they have the better closer than the Tigers, but I’m not too convinced the Twins are going to have too many 9th inning leads vs. us.

  23. CountryClub September 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    My previous post was incorrect. Verlander would pitch in game 2 on normal rest (in Series A or B). And that would set him up to pitch game 5 if the series went that far.

  24. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Jennifer, I agree, it doesn’t matter. As John Sterling is found of saying, you can’t predict baseball. We all wanted Cleveland and Detroit a few years ago, and see what happened there.

    What I will root for is for these four games between the Twins and the Tigers to go 14-15 innings each, and the race come down to the last day of the season, with pitchers being used on short rest.

    That’s also what I’m rooting for in the Angels-Red Sox series (that is, if Boston really does win the WC).

  25. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    Oops Jen – the one right before this one.

  26. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    “no one other than Mauer scares you in that lineup..”

    More true with Morneau out than it otherwise might be, but they’ve got a couple more pretty good bats. Denard Span, who I’d take as the Yankees CF in a heartbeat, is a 25 yr old, Figgins-like leadoff hitter(read: near .400 OBP, great speed). Have 30 homeruns been hit more quietly than those hit by Michael Cuddyer? 27 year old Jason Kubel is another nice young bat (.293, 24 and 90), though he’d likely have issues against the Yankees LHP’s.

  27. Sean D. September 28th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Be careful who you wish for

  28. Blackaccord September 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    As hitters, Mauer > Cabrera, Kubel > Granderson, and Cuddyer > Inge. And Polanco, like the others on both teams, are essentially zeroes.

    Accordingly, the Twins have outscored the Tigers by 50 runs this year. If you’d rather see the Twins, it should be because of pitching, not the lineup (though frankly, the Twins are just a better team all around).

    ——————————
    Justin Morneaue who’s out for the season is a big contributor to the run differential.. without him, the twins offense doesnt scare you.. I agree that the twins have a better team all around and always seem to get a hit with RISP..

  29. Trevor (Super Mario) September 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    I don’t care either way but I’m leaning towards the Twins. Their pitching isn’t great. And the Yankees based on how they’ve handled them would agree.
    Now Pavano has pitched well twice against the Yankees but maybe the third time is the charm.
    As for the rest of that rotation: Blackburn? Baker? :|

    The Tigers rotation is more of an even match up on paper. Outside of Pettitte. Both Jackson and Burnett are ? imo.

    Verlander/Sabathia
    Jackson/Burnett
    Porcello Pettitte

  30. Rob September 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    I’ve learned to not wish for a particular opponent after what happened in ’06 and ’07 so whatever happens, happens. One issue I see with the Tigers as an opponent though, especially if the Yankees pick the longer series, is that Verlander and Jackson would be pitching 4 of the 5 games. Isn’t the drop off from the Tigers 3rd to 4th starter greater than the Yankees? I might consider picking the shorter series and taking a shot at Pettitte/Burnett vs. Porcello and Joba vs. Whoever

  31. haiku-man September 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I won’t select a team.In 2007 the Yankees owned the Indians in regular season. In postseason CC,Fausto Carmona,and Paul Byrd(yes that one from Sunday)took care of the Yankees 3-1,along with the midgees on the field, and that was that.

    Whatever team the Yankees face,I hope they play hard and,Win!!

  32. G. Love September 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Betsy,

    Don’t get too wrapped up in the Boston media. If you read the comments on those articles, the Boston fans aren’t buying the spin.

    I do not think the Red Sox intentionally went into the weekend okay with losing 3 games and looking to give guys a breather.

    I think they realized they were up against a very determined team this weekend.

    As long as the Yankees don’t play tight in the playoffs like we’ve seen in the past, this team is going to kick some butt.

  33. The Ghost September 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    Something must be done about this wildcard series. There should no way that a team can get hot and win 3 out of 5 games and advanced to the ALCS past a team that won 20 more games in the regular season than they did. That makes the regular season an absolute joke. They need to make the wildcard team have to win 4 games before the division winner wins 3 games in order to advance. That to me, would be fair because 4 out of 5 would be a dominant showing.

  34. islesfan September 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    I don’t particularly care who the Yankees face but I would like to see them have to play through at least Sunday to determine the winner.

    If Verlander has to throw on Sunday and the Tigers end up winning the Central, do the Yankees choose the Wed & Thur games to limit Verlander to game 3 (assuming they don’t use Verlander on 3 days rest) or do they still take the Wed & Fri games to give themselves the extra day of rest and a fresh bullpen in the first 3 games?

    I say do what’s best for you and worry about the other team when you’re on the field.

  35. Stateman52 September 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    This year will be different for the Yankees. I see the beating the Tigers in 4, the Red Sox in 6 and the Cardinals in 7.

  36. Abdababdaserser September 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Blackaccord, the Twins have been having Cuddyer on a tear since Morneau went down. Cuddyer and Mauer have been the main reason they are still in the race. The Tigers have been having a time just keeping ahead.

    In any event, I refuse to hope for any team to get in over the other. If its the Tigers the Yankees face some better pitching, if its the Twins their offense has been hitting very well. It could be difficult with either club, despite the win totals from the regular season.

    Any pitcher or club can get hot where they play over their usual level in any game or series.

    I just would like to see the Yankees win regardless of the team they end up facing.

  37. Nick in SF September 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Chien-ming Wang’s win cost more than $4.44 million, no?

    :(

  38. Mark-Cant Touch This September 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    My solution is cut down the regular season games back to 152 add another wild card team, make the wild card team play each other in a 3 game series to see who gets to be part of the final 4 teams, either that or make it a 7 game series or give the wild card no home games in a best of 5.

  39. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    new power rankings:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

  40. S.A.--Is it October yet? September 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Doesn’t matter to me, twins or tigers.

  41. upstate kate September 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    I have faith the Yankees can beat anyone, so I don’t really care as far as match ups go. I would like to see the Tigers win b/c their mgmt has tried to put a quality team on the field despite all the financial problems in Detroit. I would like to see the Angels over the Sox b/c they had to deal w/ the loss of Adenhart. And most of all, I want to see the Yankees win the WS again.

  42. Tucson Ken September 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    I want no part of Verlander,especially twice in 5 game series. Twins it must be!

    Is anyone else besides me starting to feel really bad that
    more than likely we are watching the last few games of Hideki Matsui in Pinstripes? I hope he gets to close out his Yankee tenure with a World Series victory celebration.
    He has been a rock solid productive CLUTCH hitter for these many years & conducted himself as a consummate professionallike Jeter & MO. I’m certain he won’t be brought back ’cause there are just too many old Yankees who need to share the DH spot. Hats off to a great YANKEE!

  43. Tom Cheese September 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    I want the Tigers. Would the Twins (theoretically) be the better opponent? Sure. But I want the Yankees to earn this championship. I want to beat up the teams we have lost to in the past, so for me, I want the Tigers and then the Angels. If it were the Red Sox instead of the Angels, that would be fine too, but the Angels have knocked us out twice, and Red Sox are our perennial doormat, minus one historical anomaly.

  44. Nick in SF September 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    If the Twins and Tigers finish in a tie, let them form a combined super team to play us.

    Then we can really say we beat the best of the AL Central.

  45. Abdababdaserser September 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I love how Gammons keeps talking about how it was a meaningless series against the Yankees. Yes, there were some lesser players out on the field, but no team willingly looks to allow a sweep, even at this point of the season. Strong teams that know they are going to the post season will rest players, but they still want to win, and they still want to clinch their spot.

    I don’t think the rivalry between the two clubs extends to them hating each other off the field, but I guarantee you neither teams wants to lose to the other. They are competitors.

    FA has changed the attitude of the rivalry, but it is still felt and to be the best for any season usually means going through the other. Everyone who plays wants to be able to call themselves champions.

  46. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I just hope that both teams burn out their starters and bullpen so by the time they Game 1 starts their starters will be tired.

  47. m September 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    This whole “resting the players” thing really took on a life of its own, didn’t it?

    Looks like the extra inning of rest Tito gave his regulars by pulling them after the 8th on Friday really helped.

    I’ve heard a lot of excuses, but the “we were resting our players” is a new one.

    And if they were doing that, then they didn’t give themselves the best chance to win did they? So the sweep wasn’t a real shock, was it?

    If the situations were reversed, I think Girardi would’ve wanted the series badly. If he was going to get beat at Fenway, he wasn’t going to help them. I also believe if the Yankees held the WC lead, they’d play hard until they actually clinched the wild card berth and then rest players after that.

    From all accounts Tito is a classy guy. But that comment about the cheap homerun shows frustration to me. After the 0-8 start, the Yankees beat them fair and square. And it wasn’t with the big bat. We beat them their own calling card. With good pitching.

  48. pat September 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Either Tigers or Twins is fine.

    Playing postseason games on turf is not appealing to me though.

  49. Nick in SF September 28th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Girardi put Brian Bruney in a close game! Don’t tell me the Yankees tried harder to win. :mad:

  50. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    As a matter of fact, I do have a preference:

    The Twins win the Central, Carl Pavano starts one of the division series game and this happens to him:

    First inning

    Jeter singles
    Damon doubles
    Tex walks
    Alex singles (2-0)
    Deki homers (5-0)
    Jorge doubles
    Robbie doubles (6-0)
    Swish Hawk walks
    Melky triples (8-0)
    Jeter singles (9-0)

    [Pavano pulled, the greatest 15 seconds in Carl Pavano-Yankees history ensue on the walk back to the third base dugout]

    Damon homers (11-0 – all runs charged to Pavano).

  51. tex's friend September 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    How bout this wildcard scenario. The wildcard team only gets 1 home game.

    2 at leader
    1 at wildcard
    2 at leader

    Seems fair and gives the team that wins the division a boost.

    They also have to do away with the idea that if the WC comes from the same division as the league’s best team they dont face. Just doesnt make sense to punish the best team that way.

  52. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    sorry, all but the last run – 10 runs charged to Pavano, last run retroactively charged to Kevin Brown somehow.

  53. Joe September 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Pete…. For the records, Verlander is 17-9 and not 19-7

  54. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    If the Twins take 3 out of 4 then the Tigers will be in serious trouble. A one game playoff in the Metrodome where the Tigers have not performed well would be bad news for the Tigers. And if they make it, Verlander and Jackson will have already been used.

  55. tex's friend September 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    From all accounts Tito is a classy guy. But that comment about the cheap homerun shows frustration to me. After the 0-8 start, the Yankees beat them fair and square. And it wasn’t with the big bat. We beat them their own calling card. With good pitching.

    ___

    So sick of the cheap homerun comments from opponents, like their lefties cant also hit homeruns to right field?

    Can’t big Sloppy pull a homerun? How bout Drew? Martinez?

    It’s not like the wall is moved back 50 feet when the Sox are batting.

  56. tex's friend September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    it has to deflate boston so much that the yankees pounded Lester before he got hit by the pine drive? Lester was the hope for them because he always shuts new york down pretty well.

  57. Mark in Tampa September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    “From all accounts Tito is a classy guy. But that comment about the cheap homerun shows frustration to me”

    Not that I’m going to make it my job to defend Francona, but at least he noted that they had the opportunity to hit it over that fence as well and didn’t take advantage of it. Most other announcers and managers talk like the Yanks move the fences in 50 feet when they are batting.

  58. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    “There should no way that a team can get hot and win 3 out of 5 games and advanced to the ALCS past a team that won 20 more games in the regular season than they did”

    This year is the 15th season of the Wild Card. To date, only 4 wild card teams did NOT have a better record than at least one division winner and in two of those cases the wild card was tied with at least one division winner. 4 times the wild card finished with a better record than two division winners and this year could be a fifth.

  59. tex's friend September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    line drive.

  60. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    The Red Sox and their fans whine all the time. When your an organization that has had a long history of failure your always going to make excuses.

  61. Robbykid September 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    I would be carefully wishing for the Twins…History has shown that the hottest team usually goes pretty far in the playoffs….

  62. no.27 September 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    8 of the Yankees 9 regular starters are in the top 26 in the AL in OPS.

  63. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    “I’ve heard a lot of excuses, but the “we were resting our players” is a new one.”

    It’s an excuse the Red Sox didn’t make though. That’s the stupidity in all this. Instead of relishing in the 1st divsion title since 2006, people are pissing and moaning about Boston sportwriters.

  64. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Mike C (South Orange, NJ)

    Do you think the Yankees will go far in the postseason? What do you think they will do with Joba as far as bullpen or fourth starter? Will the Yankees take Gaudin or Mitre or neither?

    Buster Olney (1:14 PM)

    Mike: They will go as A.J. Burnett goes, I believe, and in his last outing, he was outstanding. Sabathia is throwing as well as anybody is right now. Pettitte looks solid. And they demonstrated that they are poised to exploit Boston’s throwing issues with their catchers… Right now, they should go into the post-season as the favorites, because right now, they are the best team, and they’re playing well.

  65. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    It’s like what Joe Morgan said (lol) The Yankees know how to hit in their park and the other teams don’t, and the Yankee pitchers who are strike out pitchers know how to pitch in the park.

  66. m September 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    mark in tampa,

    Tito’s not the first to say it. “It’s a lazy fly ball in any other park…but the park’s the same size for us, too.”

    So they’re saying their own hitters are so weak they can’t hit a lazy fly ball or warning track homerun?

    Those grapes are just s-o-u-r.

  67. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I mean really – they call it home field ADVANTAGE for a reason.

    Not that I think it’s a massive advantage, but really

  68. Laura - Matsui will be a Yankee in 2010!! September 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I used to want the Twins; now I want DET. The Twins are hot right now and are playing well w/o Morneau. Cuddyer and Kubel are picking up the slack, which says a lot about them. Verlander can be gotten to. That being said, I think MIN gets past DET for the Central title so my wishes are all for moot.

  69. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    “They also have to do away with the idea that if the WC comes from the same division as the league’s best team they dont face. Just doesnt make sense to punish the best team that way.”

    Playing the Twins or Tigers rather than the Red Sox feel like a punishment?

  70. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    I don’t care about the Redsox.

    The Yankeees need to win a division series and the Redsox need to beat the Angels before the two can even think about playing again this season.

    I could care less; we’ve shown we can beat all four teams – MIN, DET, BOS and ANA. Take care of our business and whoever’s in the LCS waiting, so be it. I’m more interested in seven things this week:

    1. David Robertson
    2. Brian Bruney
    3. What was Swish Hawk’s BAC last night?
    4. Can we get Robbie Cano a day off?
    5. Twins-Tigers
    6. Tex gonna hit 40?
    7. Hairston OK?

  71. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Derwood Morris
    September 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    I don’t care about the Redsox.

    The Yankeees need to win a division series and the Redsox need to beat the Angels before the two can even think about playing again this season.

    I could care less; we’ve shown we can beat all four teams – MIN, DET, BOS and ANA. Take care of our business and whoever’s in the LCS waiting, so be it. I’m more interested in seven things this week:

    1. David Robertson
    2. Brian Bruney
    3. What was Swish Hawk’s BAC last night?
    4. Can we get Robbie Cano a day off?
    5. Twins-Tigers
    6. Tex gonna hit 40?
    7. Hairston OK?
    ————
    8. Can A-Rod get 30 HRs and 100 RBIs

  72. Blackaccord September 28th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    I don’t buy the rest the regulars stuff.. The sox got into the situation where they have to rest one of the regulars (Youkillis, lowell, varitek or martinez).. Also, playing lowrie over gonzalez is not really resting a key player..
    Bay is 1-9 against CC and Drew is 2-10 against CC.. Baldelli was 6-26 against him.. If you want to give a rest to your players, do it after clinching.. Its a lame excuse in my opinion..

  73. Literary license September 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    “It’s a lazy fly ball in any other park…but the park’s the same size for us, too.”

    Lazy? Was LAZY actually part of the quote?

  74. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Robbykid
    The Yankees have owned the Twins for 10 years now in the regular season and the postseason. They have a good record in the dome, and Yankee Stadium has been a house of pain for the Twins. That’s why I think people feel the Twins would be the better opponent. This matchup is not the same as the Indians 2007 and Tigers 2006 because the Twins lack an ace. It’s the same as the Angels vs. Yankees the Angels have owned the Yankees.

  75. disco stu September 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    If 2006 taught us anything, it is that the minute you start to handicap what 1st oppenent is a better matchup, the more you set yourself for even greater disappointment.

    Back ’06, everyone thought the Yankees would be playing the Twins in the first round because they trailed the Tigers down the stretch … and everyone was once again worried about how the Yankees would be able to get past them because of the way Johan Santana was pitching. Then, the Tigers fell apart down the stretch, lost the division, settled for the wild card, and started the playoffs against the big, bad, Yankees as “dead team walking” … and we all know how that series turned out.

    So my feeling now is simply that whoever the Yankees play, it will be a tough series and they will need to be at their best to advance … and if they play their best, then they will win because they are better than either the Twins or Tigers. Period, end of story.

  76. m September 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Maybe the media should focus on the fact that one of Boston’s “regulars” is Nick Green. :lol:

  77. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Well I have seen lazy fly balls turn into homeruns off the Green Monster. What about the Pesky Pole ?

    The Red Sox always whine when things don’t go their way.

  78. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Rishi – amazing, considering he missed April.

    The guy is awesome; glad he’s on our side. His at bat in the 6th against Byrd yesterday was the at bat of the game.

    Really looking forward to seeing what kind of post-season Alex puts together. I think he’s going to be fantastic.

  79. GGBG (Magic Number: ZERO!) September 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    I’d rather see the Tigers if Verlander has to pitch next Sunday to get the Tigers in. I’ll take my chances against Jackson and Porcello.

    I’d rather see the Twins in every other situation.

  80. Mark in Tampa September 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    m,

    Or the fact that Boston is hoping and praying that Nick Green gets healthy so he can be one of their “regulars”. :)

  81. m September 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    The lazy fly quote is a generic, fictional one that reflects the general attitude when other teams come into NYS and get beat.

    Tito’s not saying anything we haven’t heard before. Sad. I thought he was better than that.

  82. Betsy September 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    G Love, I need to go back and read the comments. I forgot about those – someone posted a few of them last night and I was pleasantly surprised. Truthfully, I’m not all that wrapped up in the Sox except that I respect them and I wouldn’t be surpised if it came down to Sox/Yankees again (though I really don’t want that – any Sox/Yanks series is beyond aggravating). First things first – the Yankees need to get past the first round.

  83. no.27 September 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    The Tigers don’t have a game off for the rest of the season and Verlander is scheduled to pitch the last game of the season. I don’t really care who wins that division, but it would be great to see Verlander pitching the last game of the season if they are the team to make it.

  84. randy l. September 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    “That’s the stupidity in all this. Instead of relishing in the 1st divsion title since 2006, people are pissing and moaning about Boston sportwriters.”

    i couldn’t agree more.

    i’m happy about the yankees wrapping up the division, but as a fan, my focus is towards them getting the whole team lined up and ready for the first postseason series.

    winning the division title is nice, but they need to win the first playoff series and the one after that and the one after that.

    to me the focus is always ahead.

    when they have beaten everyone , then it’s time to look back and celebrate.

    in the meantime , they are in a nice position, but that’s all it is.

    once the playoffs start, everyone is at 0-0.

  85. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    I think everyone feels the same way about Verlander – we’d all like to see him on the mound as little as possible! He’s the only ace on the two teams.

  86. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    more importantly – what are the odds Swish is in the lineup today.

  87. Betsy September 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Buster keeps changing his mind – he picked the Yankees after it became clear that they were the best team, then he switched to the Sox when the Yanks were struggling and they were hot, lol. It really doesn’t matter what anyone says – though I agree that AJ is the key.

  88. jennifer September 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    The odds that Swisher is in the line up 1-1000.

  89. Literary license September 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    1. David Robertson
    2. Brian Bruney
    3. What was Swish Hawk’s BAC last night?
    4. Can we get Robbie Cano a day off?
    5. Twins-Tigers
    6. Tex gonna hit 40?
    7. Hairston OK?
    ————
    8. Can A-Rod get 30 HRs and 100 RBIs

    9. Sababthia 20 wins?

  90. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I think A.J. will be fine. Him and Andy are close and I’m sure Andy is giving him advice about his first postseason start. And on top of that he has been fixing his mechanics which has resulted in better performances of late. Just in time for October.

  91. Stevie September 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Well I have seen lazy fly balls turn into homeruns off the Green Monster.
    =================================================

    So have I. Bucky Dent off Mike Torres in 1978. :)

  92. daver September 28th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    How come when a batter hits a ball off the top of the outfield wall…missing a home run by inches…people say:

    “Wow! That was a shot! He nailed that one!”

    But when a batter hits a ball…just a few inches OVER the wall…people say:

    “That was a cheap homerun.” or
    “That fly ball was just barely made it over the fence”

  93. Bronx native September 28th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Zell’s Pinstripe blog has some amazing champagne party photos:

    http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....ty-photos/

  94. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Still get nervous about Burnett. Even when he’s pitched well in his last two starts, he’s putting too many on base (21 in 12 2/3 IP). He’s pitched his way out of trouble in those games, but those tough pitches you need to make to do that are that much tougher under the hot lights of postseason play.

  95. Mikes Not so hard lemonade September 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Tired of all the people that say Yankees should play this team over the other one. If they win it all this year, They need to beat any team. HELLO YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!

  96. Stevie September 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Check out Reggie:

    http://imgsrv.wfan.com/image/D.....1254160047

    Reggie always knows where the party is at.

  97. jennifer September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090.....nyy123.jpg

    swish and jeet getting a little close. lol

  98. Derwood Morris September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Bronx native –

    my favorites are Jeter dumping Alex, Damon and Tex looking like their engaging in a polite conversation about the evolution of the screw ball, and any picture involving Robbie Cano.

  99. Matt H September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Please Twins. I go to school in Minnesota and I really want to go to my first Yankees playoff game.

  100. Patrick from CT September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    It should not matter; the Yankee are the best team in the league.
    So long as the Yankees are healthy, they should and will beat any and everyone!

  101. The Ghost September 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Rex who would you rather have as your #3 Burnett or Dice-K. I’m not being snarky I think it’s an interesting comparison. They both put a lot of hitters on base and their success or failure always teters on 2 or 3 important pitches each game.

  102. Aaron September 28th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    As much as I want the easier matchup, Detroit is currently 2 hours from where I go to school. And since I already bought Tigers’ playoff tickets, I’m voting Tigers.

  103. Stevie September 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Here’s Kim Jones gettin doused

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/....._al_12.jpg

  104. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Rex
    Why be nervous ? Anything can happen so why get worked up about it. The same can happen to pitchers on the other team like Verlander or Beckett. I rather have Burnett on the mound than an old Randy Johnson or Jaret Wright.

    Burnett will be fine.

  105. Benny Blanco September 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    I did not know greinke throws 98. My goodness.

  106. aug September 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    did pavano collect workers comp while with the yanks? !

  107. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    The Ghost
    Dice-k and Burnett are similar in that aspect though Burnett has the better stuff. Though Dice-k puts a lot of hitters on in his first postseason with the Sox (2007) he was good in the postseason and he was the number 2 behind Beckett.

  108. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “Rex who would you rather have as your #3 Burnett or Dice-K.”

    Well, are we saying Burnett is #3 at this point? Or #2. Dice K is #4 in Boston right now, so that seems an apples and oranges comparison.

  109. haiku-man September 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Well well well,http://www.nesn.com ,The article,”CC will have no excuse for another postseason meltdown,”is reviewing CC’s previous postseason record,in an attempt to give the red slops fan base some shred of hope.

    First CC was over used on the Indians,and Brewers,and didn’t get rest.I thought the Brewers were going to blow out his arm using him many times on 3 days rest.

    Joe has and will be smart with his ACE,plus the pen will help him too.

    This article(reeks of sour gapes,)and nothing more than a hit job to slam CC,and uplift the red slops fans!

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  111. testing September 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

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  112. haiku-man September 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    If the article wanted to be OBJECTIVE say,the Yankees have the best record in baseball.
    Homefield advantage.
    A week to rest all of their players before the end of the reg season.
    With all that in their favor,if they don’t win,it’s their fault,but no it picks out CC.

  113. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Jeremy:

    Nervous is a relative term. It’s a baseball fan nervousness rather than waiting to hear from the oncologist nervousness.

    I see your point re: Beckett and Verlander. However, the difference is Burnett does it all the time. He’s a legit 13 baserunners per 9 innings guy (1.41 WHIP) wheres the two are around 1.18. Anyone can blow up, but I feel his chances of doing so are a little better than the other guys.

  114. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    haiku-man
    That all Red Sox Nation does. They whine and make excuses for their failures. They did the same thing last year when they lost to the Rays in the ALCS. Peter Gammons was pissed yesterday when they clinched and said if they don’t win the Yankees are a failure. Now the media is saying that the Yankees are the favorites to win it all but two weeks ago they said the Sox were the favorites. The media wants to but pressure on the Yankee players so that they fail.

  115. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    “It should not matter; the Yankee are the best team in the league.
    So long as the Yankees are healthy, they should and will beat any and everyone!”

    Yep.

    I personally was ELATED to have won the division the way we did! I’m not a fan of excessive dumping on the little guys so it would have pained me just a little for KC had we taken the division at their hands. Could it have been scripted any more deliciously? Much more deliciously? I think not!

    And since I haven’t felt the need to keep my enthusiasm under wraps since the first pitch of the season, I’m not about to start now. I knew we’d take the division and always said it. I also always said that this would be our year for Number 27. Those who feel cautious or feel the need to stay cautious, I have no difficulty with that. Just don’t rain on my parade in the process. Whatever floats any of our boats is the way to go.

  116. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    “First CC was over used on the Indians,and Brewers,and didn’t get rest.I thought the Brewers were going to blow out his arm using him many times on 3 days rest”

    So he had excuses for his failures in ’07 and ’08 and now he has no excuses….right?

  117. Jeremy September 28th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Rex
    Yeah I understand. But If a guy like Dice-k who was the number 2 on the 2007 Red Sox and a guy who walks the park can pitch good in October Burnett can do the same.

  118. Laura - Matsui will be a Yankee in 2010!! September 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

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  119. haiku-man September 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Yankees have momentum going into postseason,they overcame injury hurdles on the team,beat teams that dominated them.

    They are hungry and will give it their all,B E L I E V E!!

  120. NYYROC September 28th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Bronx Native: Thanks for posting the link to the celebration pix! They show a lot of stuff that I didn’t see on the postgame!

  121. haiku-man September 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    -Rex

    No excuses,he has a real contending team behind him now.

  122. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma September 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
    (CURRENTLY STANDS AT 100 WINS)
    Created on April 6, 2009
    poster # of games

    TOMPASS 124 :(
    S.O.S. 118 :(
    ROB THOMPSON 110 :(
    *RAYVT 107 :(
    #2 FOR PREZ 106
    *ANGEL 105
    PEL 105
    BACKBENCH 105
    *TOM B 104
    DR. COX 104
    TRISHA 103
    VSPOT 103
    KEVIN IN CT 102
    NICK IN SF 102
    YANKEESJTJ 102
    GLOBAL WARMING 102
    MG 102
    THE PREDIKTER 101
    *L-tothe2ND 101
    LORI 100
    MEL 100
    TEX’S NEW BF 100
    PATRICK 100
    *ERICA 100
    BARDOS 99 :(
    VIN 99 :(
    JENNIFER 99 :(
    ED 99 :(
    *NYY626 99 :(
    DT 99 :(
    *STEVE-B 99 :(
    LAURA 98 :(
    PETE ABE 98 :(
    RISHI 98 :(
    RUSSW210 98 :(
    CLAYB 98 :(
    DOREEN 98 :(
    RB15 98 :(
    TOM IN NJ 97 :(
    FRAN 97 :(
    S.A. 97 :(
    HOKIEHILL 97 :(
    UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97 :(
    #2 FOR PREZ 96 :(
    GAYLE 96 :(
    PAT 96 :(
    WESTERNER99 96 :(
    PSYLUCK 96 :(
    STEVEB 96 :(
    MICHAEL KAY 96 :(
    JOHN IN OHIO 95 :(
    MARK 95 :(
    B-DAVE 94 :(
    *WAIT TIL THEY COME 94 :(

    * added 7/29 or later

  123. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Jeremy:

    I think Matsuzaka was technically #3 behind Schilling (the Game 2 starter in the ALCS and WS), but he did pitch pretty effectively in Game 7 of that ALCS, but overall he’s got a postseason ERA up near 5, mixing in a couple good efforts with some fairly weak ones. Wouldn’t shock me if that’s about what Burnett offers.

  124. Sox-tastic for Playoff run September 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    //So he had excuses for his failures in ‘07 and ‘08 and now he has no excuses….right?//

    CC was a cake walk for the Red Sox in 2007. I’m sure once October hits and the Chokers of New York come out to play. CC will join the club…..much to your dismay! :(

    Sox aren’t worried about anybody that NY wants to pitch.

    Lester, Beckett, Clay & Dice-K will rule like they have in the past: Proven winners getting the job done in October.

    I’d be worried.

  125. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Sox-tastic for Playoff run
    September 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    //So he had excuses for his failures in ‘07 and ‘08 and now he has no excuses….right?//

    CC was a cake walk for the Red Sox in 2007. I’m sure once October hits and the Chokers of New York come out to play. CC will join the club…..much to your dismay!

    Sox aren’t worried about anybody that NY wants to pitch.

    Lester, Beckett, Clay & Dice-K will rule like they have in the past: Proven winners getting the job done in October.

    I’d be worried.
    ========================

    You might want to focus on actually winning the wild card before making play off predictions. Right now you’re still 2 wins short.

  126. Rishi September 28th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    :arrow:

  127. aug September 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    8 straight wins and then only 1 more after august? yeesh

  128. Rex September 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “No excuses,he has a real contending team behind him now.”

    He had one in Cleveland too. That team was a game away from the WS and probably would have won it had they got there. He wasn’t very good in those playoffs though in fairness, he was neck and neck with Beckett in Game 5 in to the late innings before it got away from him.

    Milwaukee? He had no shot and did remarkable work just to get them there.

    Kind of hard to paint a presentation of the facts as some sort of malicious attack. The numbers are what they are. Not very good. Sabathia, to my knowledge (and to his credit), has never offered any excuses. Most of what we hear and see are excuses that others have made for him, and in the case of his time with the Brewers in particular, were quite legimate. This time around, everything is set up quite nicely for him to succeed. Here’s hoping he does.

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  130. Art September 28th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Interesting what qualifies as an MVP these days:

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  131. photoman September 28th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

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