Game 159: Royals at Yankees
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Sep 30, 2009 
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YANKEES (102-56)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (9-6, 4.72)
ROYALS (64-94)
Maier LF
Hulett 2B
Butler 1B
Pena DH
Callaspo 3B
Teahen RF
Buck C
Betancourt SS
Anderson CF
Pitching: RHP Robinson Tejeda (4-2, 3.41)
TIME/TV: 7:05, YES.
WEATHER: Partly cloudy and cool. Low of 54. Chance of rain: 20 %. Get the current forecast for the Stadium here.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: Pretty good, no? The Yankees have won seven straight and are 46 games over .500. … They have won 31 of their last 38 games at home, and last night’s win tied a Major League record for most wins by a team in its first year at new stadium. The 57 wins by the Yankees this season equals the total of the 1912 Boston Red Sox, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, who also won 57 during Fenway Park’s debut season.
WALK THIS WAY: The game-winning single by Juan Miranda last night was the 15th Yankees walkoff victory this year. That’s second on the all-time Yankees list to the 1943 team, which had 17. … Miranda was the ninth different Yankee to have a game-ending hit this year and second rookie (joining Francisco Cervelli). … Last night was also the Yankees’ ninth win this year when trailing after seven innings and fifth when trailing after eight.
TEX TO THE TOP: Mark Teixeira hit his 39th home run yesterday, tying him for the AL lead with Tampa’s Carlos Pena. With Pena done for the season because of injury, the AL home run crown is Teixeria’s for the taking (Aaron Hill is in third with 36).
ROYALLY BLUE: Kansas City has lost six of its last seven games. In other bad news, they’re also paying Kyle Farnsworth $4.25 million this year AND next year.
JOBA-JOBA-JOBA: After struggling in the first inning so often earlier this season, Joba Chamberlain looked sharp in retiring the first 11 hitters he faced last Friday against Boston.
I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.
Back with much more later.
UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.: Posada back in the lineup, though Girardi said he’s “curious to see” how Posada’s neck feels after catching tonight. … Dave Robertson said he has no lingering soreness in his elbow, which is encouraging. He’ll pitch again tomorrow in Tampa. … Girardi was asked if he’s committed to starting Posada in every postseason game or if Molina would be an option. “Those are things that we will consider,” he said.
UPDATE, 5:09 p.m.: Here’s the audio from Girardi’s pre-game.
UPDATE, 6:08 p.m.: For anyone at (or coming to) tonight’s game, the Yankees are hosting a bone marrow drive (in conjunction with Be The Match and the New York Blood Center) in hopes of finding a match for Mitchell Brown, a 32-year-old fan from New Jersey who was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma earlier this year. If you’re aged 18-60 and willing to donate to any patient in need, go the main level of the Stadium tonight up until 10 p.m. You could help save someone’s life.
UPDATE, 6:47 p.m.: Getting chilly here in the Bronx, as Joba is wearing sleeves while warming up in the bullpen. Meanwhile, the Tigers and Twins get going shortly in Detroit in the “who-plays-the-Yankees” series. For those who want to see the Twins in the ALDS, that means you’re rooting for … Carl Pavano tonight. Good luck with all that.
UPDATE, 6:53 p.m.: There’s a giant Snoopy on the field to help present the Player of the Month award to Mark Teixeira. Personally, I think the Yankees should have more presentations that involve big stuffed animals.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Now Snoopy is dancing to “I Wanna Rock.”
UPDATE, 6:59 p.m.: Nice touch by the Yankees, who just had a video presentation where numerous team members said thank-you to the fans for their support this season. Derek Jeter, of course, led off; Brian Cashman referenced Rex Ryan’s appeal to Jets fans when asking for Yankees fans to get loud this October; Nick Swisher gave an extra salute to the Bleacher Creatures; Hideki Matsui did his in both English and Japanese; and Joe Girardi finished it off by saying he’s hoping all the fans will have plenty of reasons to pie the Yankees before this postseason is over.
UPDATE, 7:09 p.m.: 54 degrees at first pitch. Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 7:24 p.m.: Well, he can’t lead off the game with a single every time. That was Jeter’s 23rd career leadoff home run and fourth this season. Rickey Henderson holds the Yankee record with 24.
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: Joba retired the first 11 hitters in his last start. This time, four of the first seven have reached base.
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: That was a 95 mph fastball that Joba used to get Butler to fly out with the bases loaded. Nice escape after another dicey inning where he heard loud boos after walking Maier.
UPDATE, 7:57 p.m.: In a shocking development, Detroit has scored four off the Idle in the second inning to take a 4-2 lead in the WPTY series.
UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: Bad bounce there on Teahen’s hit to finish a 10-pitch at-bat. It’s 2-1 and Joba is already nearing 70 pitches.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Joba at 80 pitches now (with Aceves warming up) while the Tigers are still up two and the Red Sox are, apparently, getting no-hit by Roy Halladay.
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Boos for Joba followed by cheers for Girardi followed by more boos for Joba as he walks off the mound. It’s 3-1 Royals, two runners on and two outs in the fourth. He threw 91 pitches.
UPDATE, 8:37 p.m.: Aceves gets out of it. Joba’s line: 3 2/3 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 4 BB, 3 K. 91 pitches, 52 strikes. Not exactly a crisp follow-up to Friday.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: Second-deck shot from Swisher for No. 29 of the year and we’re tied at 3. Meanwhile, Tigers up 7-2 in the WPTY series and the Red Sox have managed one hit off Doc.
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: Good job by Aceves. Two innings, two hits, two strikeouts, leaves with one man on. Albaladejo coming in.
UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: Gardner in CF, Cabrera moves to LF, Hairston at SS and Marte in to pitch.
UPDATE, 9:38 p.m.: That was ugly all around. Swisher got turned around and then had to roll the ball over to Gardner, while it looked like A-Rod missed the tag on Buck at third. Either way, Yankess have the infield in now.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: And that’s your 2009 Royals – a missed squeeze by Betancourt and Buck is dead. Nice break for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 10:21 p.m.: And that’s that. Not a great finish to the regular season for Joba, who was surely hoping to leave a more positive impression for when the higher-ups sit down and try to map out their postseason staff. Back with clubhouse reaction later on.
Lets go Yankees! Sweeeeeeep!
great song
I DONT MISS PETE AT ALL!
I like the weather addition. And this right here:
“I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
showed a LOT more personality than we have seen from Sam before when he was just filling in… guess he kinda still is just filling in, in a way
but that made me laugh
” DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
LOL!!!!
Trisha-
104!!!!
I’ll be at the game tonight!
I LOVE IT WHEN YOU CALL ME BIG POPPA
/pitcher from Hardball waves his hands from side to side before he strikes out another 8 year old while wearing a walkman.
Tell your friends to get with my friends, and we can be friends. $#!+ we can do this every weekend! That a’ight with you? Yeah… keep bangin’
Welcome Sam!
If you got a gun up in your waist please don’t shoot up the place
Cause I see some ladies tonight who should be havin my baby
Baby
That’s what CC warms up to. Great song.
An important aspect to this evenings game is for Joba to build upon his last start……This is an important start believe it or not…..Confidence in himself, for the club and lastlt for the Yankee fanbase……I still contend that sometime next month, he’ll be called upon to perform in a vital game…….He’s going to be placed in a situation that can effect the outcome of a series….I believe this to be true, still………..
Sam – you can get in on this if you want
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
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I will check and make sure I have everybody by first pitch of the game. Feel free to check on me. When it comes to numbers and charts I bear watching!
I’m not so sure he would have done as good a job as Girardi dealing with the “personality makeover” of this year’s team and allowing the free spirits to reign and roam as G has. It goes without saying that he would NOT have managed the games, in general, and certainly not the bullpen, in particular, as G has. One wonders whose arm he would have blown out by this time ….my vote is (i) Aceves, and (ii) Hughes.
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Girardi almost blew out Aceves and he was using him responsibly, so without a doubt I’d say Torre would have owned Aceves first. That is assuming that he’d have pitched him in the first place.
Also we have a record tied with the red sox, which I would very much like to break, thus making this a MUST WIN GAME!!!
Good song choice. I hereby approve of Sam.
NYY lineup Sept. 30: Jeter SS, Damon LF, Teixeira 1B, Rodriguez 3B, Matsui DH, Posada C, Cano 2B, Swisher RF, Cabrera CF, Chamberlain RHP
Yankees bringing the A-Game tonight.
Love the weather addition. Will keep me from wondering about it until it gets posted or from checking weather.com
NESN.COM is saying all eyes are on Joba tonight,how will he do.
Did the forget he smacked them last week with Lester on the mound?
At least we still get comedy. Love it.
Didn’t Girardi experiment with starting a reliever so to have the starter come in and pitch deeper into the game?
Because one of these honies Biggie gots ta creep with
Sleep with, keep the ep a secret why not
Why blow up my spot cause we both got hot
Now check it, I got more Mack than Craig and in the bed
Believe me sweety I got enough to feed the needy
No need to be greedy I got mad friends with Benz’s
C-notes by the layers, true bleepin players.
sam
great job
you are tearing it up
WALK THIS WAY:
TEX TO THE TOP:
ROYALLY BLUE:
& an ipod comment
I’m still nervous that the Red Sox might catch us. I need a bridge.
WHoo Hoooo!!
Sweep it away.
I liked the WWI airplane stickers in my Millbrook bread as a kid. I put them on my ugly plaid lunchbox.
Sam nice addition on the weather. That is always a concern as we get into October. You should ask your web person to do a embedded weather map.
Trisha,
104
I love it when you call me big poppa… That’s definitely a tune for a jobs start lol
Sam, can you also have the new and old link to click on at the bottom of the thread and not just up at the top. I hate having to scroll all the way up. Thanks
ahh i hope Girardi uses this same lineup when I go to the game on Friday! or at least have some regulars.
“ROYALLY BLUE: Kansas City has lost six of its last seven games. In other bad news, they’re also paying Kyle Farnsworth $4.25 million this year AND next year.”
Just what a middling team like the Royals need… to pay an unreliable middle reliever 8.5 million over two years.
Has there been a Cy Young winner for a worse team? Grienke has to win it.
Oh yea of little faith.
I would rather thay not go into the playoffs with an 11 game win streak – but I’ll have to deal with it.
Who manages on Sunday? Posada?
“able 21
September 30th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Sam, can you also have the new and old link to click on at the bottom of the thread and not just up at the top. I hate having to scroll all the way up. Thanks”
Please Yes!
Come on, Girardi! You’ll never win anything with that garbage lineup!!!!!!!
OK, that’s out of the way.
able 21 September 30th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Sam, can you also have the new and old link to click on at the bottom of the thread and not just up at the top. I hate having to scroll all the way up. Thanks
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Ctrl + Home on the keyboard
Peter Abe used pics a lot which I liked. But your doing a good job so far, I like it already!
Thanks Swing …
I’m the only one who thinks we’ll win out?
Welcome Sam and Chad. Sam, all is looking good on the blog today. We recognize the hard work.
What is the expectation for Joba in the first round, long reliever or 6th or 7th inning guy? His first inning troubles make me hesitant to use him for a late inning in a tight game. On the other hand, and there always is the other hand, if all goes well with the starters Joba wouldn’t pitch in long relief and might go a long time between pitching if the team makes the second round. Thoughts?
“ROYALLY BLUE: Kansas City has lost six of its last seven games. In other bad news, they’re also paying Kyle Farnsworth $4.25 million this year AND next year.”
makes me feel less bad for the guy after yesterday
Trisha,
We did a pick the number of wins back in April or so. Do you have those picks???
Thanks!
Damn – bringin’ the A team tonight – that’s nice. Guess hip hip’s neck neck is OK?
Waiting for Jim Pir’s conspiracy theory regarding CC & Tex plotting for Tex to win the HR title…(CC plunking Pena)
Hey NESN, worry about the Angels, and the fact your team stumbled in & that TEX just had greater overall suckage than your guys.
I think it would be a hoot to let Matsui manage on Sunday
“Has there been a Cy Young winner for a worse team? Grienke has to win it.”
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Steve Carlton, 1972–27-10, 1.97, 0.993 WHIP in 346.1 (!!!) innings, for a team that went 59-97
Ctrl + Home on the keyboard
Makes the type Bigger- Thanks!
RayVT
She’s been posting & updating that too – this is just a “revisionist history” chart
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing) September 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Ctrl + Home on the keyboard
Makes the type Bigger- Thanks!
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haha sorry Control and Home, not Control and Plus sign
” DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
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Does anyone else think of that movie Hardball when they hear this song? What a tear-jerker!
Guess the Sunday manager?
I’ll go with A Rod (assuming he hasn’t done it before)
“But it’s not fair to dismiss the opinions of an entire gender, when there is NO opportunity for any of them to have actually had experience playing professional baseball, save for the small period of time when it was necessary as a money-maker”
doreen-
my comment wasn’t meant for you. it was meant for those who had a chance to play and chose not to, yet they are an expert on all things whether they have done them or not .
i think you have a very good feel for the game, and you’re definitely one of the people i look forward to reading here.
Tom September 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Because one of these honies Biggie gots ta creep with
Sleep with, keep the ep a secret why not
Why blow up my spot cause we both got hot
Now check it, I got more Mack than Craig and in the bed
Believe me sweety I got enough to feed the needy
No need to be greedy I got mad friends with Benz’s
C-notes by the layers, true bleepin players.
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These lyrics make me miss Springsteen. And I don’t even like him, particularly.
Uncle E -
I’m not greedy, I’ll take 3 of the last 4
Only a couple are “must win” games anyway
L to the 2nd
September 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I couldn’t remember how many wins I picked! LOL!
“Steve Carlton, 1972–27-10, 1.97, 0.993 WHIP in 346.1 (!!!) innings, for a team that went 59-97″
He won 46% of his team’s games. That’s unreal. Figures it would be a Phillie. That team was awful.
Check out the starters W-L
Lefty – 27-10
Ken Reynolds – 2-15
Bill Champion – 4-14
Woodie Fryman – 4-10
Their catcher had an OPS+ of 52. Second baseman? 68. Short Stop (Bowa)? 72. Third Baseman? 75. Yikes.
The Rays are going to try to go out on a positive, so I say we sweep them.
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UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
(CURRENTLY STANDS AT 102 WINS)
Created on April 6, 2009
poster # of games
TOMPASS 124
S.O.S. 118
ROB THOMPSON 110
*RAYVT 107
#2 FOR PREZ 106
*ANGEL 105
PEL 105
BACKBENCH 105
*TOM B 104
DR. COX 104
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
MG 102
THE PREDIKTER 101
*L-tothe2ND 101
LORI 100
MEL 100
TEX’S NEW BF 100
PATRICK 100
*ERICA 100
BARDOS 99
VIN 99
JENNIFER 99
ED 99
*NYY626 99
DT 99
*STEVE-B 99
LAURA 98
PETE ABE 98
RISHI 98
RUSSW210 98
CLAYB 98
DOREEN 98
RB15 98
TOM IN NJ 97
FRAN 97
S.A. 97
HOKIEHILL 97
UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97
GAYLE 96
PAT 96
WESTERNER99 96
PSYLUCK 96
STEVEB 96
MICHAEL KAY 96
JOHN IN OHIO 95
MARK 95
B-DAVE 94
*WAIT TIL THEY COME 94
* added 7/29 or later
“Does anyone else think of that movie Hardball when they hear this song? What a tear-jerker!”
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What I didn’t get was why didn’t Neo use his powers to help the team? Better yet why was Neo in such a bad place? Anyways good Matrix prequel.
Trisha:
My prediction is 105.
RayVT you’ll be closer than me (at least on the 1st try)
Red Slops cedes game tonight,pulled all but Ortiz and Gonzalez from line up,with Wakefield vs Halladay on the mound.
106 wins.
haiku – I thought they “gave up” last weekend?
“Red Slops cedes game tonight,pulled all but Ortiz and Gonzalez from line up,with Wakefield vs Halladay on the mound.”
Didn’t you hear? They’ve been resting their guys, and playing the backups for a week now. Pay attention!
I’m glad to hear Hal’s comments regarding Joe’s status. Michael Kay led off his show (and is still discussing) with commentary re: how, if the Yanks get knocked out in the first round (or they don’t win it all), he should not be fired. Apparently plenty of fans called in to Dom earlier and whined about Joe……Kay then went into a story about how all the Yankees, every single one, went to some kind of dinner at the NYY Steakhouse after the game. The wives went and a good time was had by all. His point? None of these players had to go last night, it wasn’t mandatory, but they all went because they wanted to be there with each other. The cameraderie on this team is real – they really like each other, on and off the field – and Joe did a great job bringing all of these personalities together. That’s not the only reason why Kay thinks Joe has done an excellent job (bullpen, etc….), but his point was that it’s ridiculous for the media to sing the praises of the lovable (to the media, I guess) Jerry Manuel (who seemingly should have a job for life) while Joe gets the wrong end of the stick (and who should be fired if the team doesn’t perform well in the post-season).
NESN.COM is saying all eyes are on Joba tonight,how will he do.
Did the forget he smacked them last week with Lester on the mound?
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Well of course Boston would be watching Joba. Look at the train wreck they have been running out there the last couple weeks.
“I’m still nervous that the Red Sox might catch us. I need a bridge.”
betsy-
I know the team likes each other, but never underestimate the power of a good, free steak dinner
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Vin – 104
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
Frank from Chatham – 105
M – 106
“An important aspect to this evenings game is for Joba to build upon his last start……”
pat m-
i agree totally. if he pitches really well, it makes a difference in decisions the yankees make for the playoffs.
i still keep reading different things about which series the yankees are going to take.
if that is still up for question in yankee management’s mind, then this start is huge.
randy l -
Lots of the ladies here do know their stuff, though.
I get a little defensive when it comes to the “dark ages” of women’s sports.
haiku-man September 30th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
NESN.COM is saying all eyes are on Joba tonight,how will he do.
Did the forget he smacked them last week with Lester on the mound?
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SO funny considering the soxs backed into the playoffs. They’ve lost how many games in a row? 5?! IF the stinking Rangers won some games, things would be getting mighty scary in beantown.
Guess the Sunday manager?
Ramiro Pena
Sundays mgr Jeter,or Damon as a long shot.
Sox better have all eyes on Lester & Beckett – not 100% certain what you’re getting there yet, boys.
Don’t read too much into that dinner last night. The Steinbrenners threw that party and you can bet you’re behind that every player was going to attend.
I’m not saying the team doesnt have a great chemistry, because it does. But the dinner last night is not proof.
Actually, Shelley Duncan could be manager Sunday.
Sort of a nice parting gift?
Sunday Manager
I’d say Alex Rodriguez but I think he did last year
my guess is Nick Swisher
anyone know who managed the last several seasons?
ESPN less than 2 weeks ago predicted Boston as the most dangerous team in the playoffs because they were the hottest. Any chance they still hold to that statement?
Side note, where is Enrique Wilson these days?
NESPN will never give NYY props.
Never.
At best – extremely begrudgingly.
I’m OK with that.
If I’ve learned anything from this season.How you start has no bearing on how you finish.0-8 to the Red Slops,to best record in all the majors with homefield advantage.WHO-DA-THUNK-IT!
-Go Yankees, with your bad selves.
Last I saw Enrique he was somewhere in here
http://www.gamesrat.com/images.....wally1.jpg
Wasn’t the “player manager on the last day” a Torre thing? Do we even know if Girardi is doing it this year?
Laura it was, but I think Girardi did it also.
“Actually, Shelley Duncan could be manager Sunday.
Sort of a nice parting gift?
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I like your thinking… so I’m gonna go with Hideki Matsui. I’d love to see him back next year, but it would be great to see him get the respect he deserves.
I too would like to know who has managed in these games over the years.
Nice job Sam. So Far Im’m liking a lot what Im seeing.
Uncle Ellsworth did you get my correction before:
Control and Home scrolls to the top (Control End to bottom)
Control and Plus Sign increases the size of the text (Control Minus decreases)
In the last 2 or 3 years I believe Posada and Moose were “MGR of the Day”.
I remember Bernie and Mo managing
“I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
LMAO
Me too vin – knowing that will influence my final choice (1st thought A Rod b/c of all he’s gone thru, how he’s “matured” & really helped the team take off once he returned).
But if he already has – I’d agree with someone like Matsui or Damon (both of whom I’d like back in ‘10)
Anybody know who managed before (I know Paulie O did, I think Bernie did, what about Jeter?)
Hey Sam we’ve got a good first “assignment” for you….
swisher manager, CC pitching coach
Betsy, I was listening to Don whine about Hal not giving Girardi a vote of confidence for next year too.
He is a typical Mets fan. They just don’t get it. The Yanks are in it to win it all. Anything less is a disappointment and your job will be on the line. Hal had nothing to gain by giving Girardi a vote of confidence for his contract. He has everything to gain by increasing the necessity level. Although, I don’t think he would fire him. It just doesn’t have anything to gain now.
I think it’s Jeter’s time to take over the reigns for a day. Uh oh, sounds like another LoHud prediction contest.
haiku-man
September 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
If I’ve learned anything from this season.How you start has no bearing on how you finish.0-8 to the Red Slops,to best record in all the majors with homefield advantage.WHO-DA-THUNK-IT!
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There’s quite a few on here that, if they’ve learned anything from this year have done a pretty good job of keeping the new-found knowledge to themselves.
Is this the funniest thing in the world, or what? How pathetic…
http://shop.mlb.com/product/in.....cp=3811982
Welcome aboard Sam. VEry impressive start. It’s obvious the blog is in good hands.
It’s obviously important that Joba follws up his last start with another good one. But I dont think they would leave him off the playoff roster either way. What would be interesting is if Joba makes some relief appearances in the playoffs and dominates with his old velocity. Then we’d be in for yet another winter of debate about his role.
Audio of Leiter on Dan Patrick:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Thank you for an excellent start, Sam.
Pete Abe made a bad move to a VERY provincial town, in my opinion. Living in the cachement area for his new newspaper, I can report that you could have seen certain Red Sox team members exiting their home clubhouse early this morning, after a private celebration, wearing new baseball caps bearing the legend, ‘2009 Wild Card Champions’.
Champions? CHAMPIONS? Since when did Bud create an ‘invisible’ division for his ‘homie’ John Henry to win; and when did we start calling anyone who finished SECOND a champion?
Utterly crass.
Wild Card team is not the champion of anything. They did not win the division, but they earned a wild card playoff spot. So, those hats? Just not appropriate.
I actually heard someone on XM baseball talk try to make this distinction this morning.
Sam is the man. Who was Pete Abraham again??? JK, we all miss Pete.
We got out A lineup tonight…check out what the Red Sox are putting out there against Halladay:
1. Joey Gathright, CF
2. Josh Reddick, LF
3. Casey Kotchman, 1B
4. David Ortiz, DH
5. Rocco Baldelli, RF
6. George Kottaras, C
7. Alex Gonzalez, SS
8. Jed Lowrie, 3B
9. Chris Woodward, 2B
I was gonna bench Halladay in my fantasy league tonight due to his poor history at Fenway. Ya, not gonna do that anymore
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September 30th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Is this the funniest thing in the world, or what? How pathetic…
http://shop.mlb.com/product/in…..cp=3811982
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Little known fact, but, that hat was to be only worn backwards….to give the appearance of backing in to the Wild Card.
Sam, I am most impressed with your first official day on the job!
Those hats are almost too funny for words. That’s just pathetic. Since when are the Wild Card winners champions? What exactly are they champions of? Mediocrity?
Yeah GB7, it took a bit for them to mesh, but once ARod came back it was like a whole new team.
I expressed my concerns of Girardi rather hotly when they lost to Halladay in Toronto. SJ44 talked me off the ledge and since then the Yanks have been, well the Yanks.
I even posted that I panicked in my name for awhile. I’m glad they turned it around, I guess I still just had a sour taste in my mouth from 08. By the time they started to turn it around that year it was too late.
It would have been interesting to take a poll in the beginning of May and see what everyone’s predictions for wins would be.
HOLY COW!
They’re sending out the A-Team, tonight
DB September 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
He is a typical Mets fan. They just don’t get it. The Yanks are in it to win it all. Anything less is a disappointment and your job will be on the line. Hal had nothing to gain by giving Girardi a vote of confidence for his contract. He has everything to gain by increasing the necessity level. Although, I don’t think he would fire him. It just doesn’t have anything to gain now.
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Didn’t Hal give Girardi a vote of confidence this morning? Sounded like it to me.
No, he didn’t say anything about a contract extension, but that’s just the way the Yanks do business.
They don’t do that with anyone.
Did John Henry give his players ribbons for participating this year too?:)
They are the Champions of the best record in the American League who aren’t in first.
Laugh all you want guys….they are in and still a force to be reckoned with. I’ll reserve judgment until we firmly kick the crap out of them.
“I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
Anyone who can enjoy a good Biggie song is alright in my book!
There’s quite a few on here that, if they’ve learned anything from this year have done a pretty good job of keeping the new-found knowledge to themselves.
one thing i’ve learned is that gb7 is keeping his spelling knowledge to himself
Who would have thought that Carl Pavano of all people would be pitching is a hugh game for the Twins or anybody for that matter again?
Minn looks like they need to win tonight as I really thought they needed to take 3-4, like wise if they lost 3-4 it’s all over almost.
With the magic number at 4, Minn can’t afford to have it cut in half by losing tonights game. It’s crunch time for them for sure tonight.
Those ‘Roid Sox “Wild Card Championship” hats = inferiority complex
Sure Giuseppe, semantics I guess. I meant vote of confidence for him to get an extension. Or at least play out his contract. Sure, he gave him a vote of confidence for the playoffs and boldy said he expects them to be in the World Series.
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART: 104
Hey, they have to stop caring about these games sometime!
Thanks for the post Sam.
“I’ll reserve judgment until we firmly kick the crap out of them.”
I believe that has already happened.
randy l -
But I always give GB7 credit for self-correcting.
Congratulations to Boston for being champion of the losers.
I wonder why Pete left, was he always a Sox fan? He could have told us and I wouldn’t have cared since he covered our team so well. Sigh, another meaningless game, is it October yet?
Even tho it isn’t a “must win” game, its an important game for Joba. Hopefully he was watching KC’s young pitcher last night- throw strikes and work quickly.
Randy I ( The Original Tin Cup )…I think the club opts for the extended series for 2 reasons…..Of course it allows them to use only 3 starters, however the more important aspect I think, is it allows the bullpen to rest and not get overworked to early in October…..Te bullpen is if not the major differnece maker that seperates the Yanks from the field, it’s right there……A fresh Bruney, Robertson, Coke & then the nuts & bolts of the pen, Hughes & Rivera…..It’s the edge the club must maintain……
Pete on Twitter is now directing other Twitters to the Red Sox extra innings blog. Anybody else notice?
Erin September 30th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Sam, I am most impressed with your first official day on the job!
Those hats are almost too funny for words. That’s just pathetic. Since when are the Wild Card winners champions? What exactly are they champions of? Mediocrity?
***** plus they are only 2 wins ahead of what we had last year. 91 to 89! UGH so annoying.
DB
September 30th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Yeah GB7, it took a bit for them to mesh, but once ARod came back it was like a whole new team.
I expressed my concerns of Girardi rather hotly when they lost to Halladay in Toronto. SJ44 talked me off the ledge and since then the Yanks have been, well the Yanks.
I even posted that I panicked in my name for awhile. I’m glad they turned it around, I guess I still just had a sour taste in my mouth from 08. By the time they started to turn it around that year it was too late.
It would have been interesting to take a poll in the beginning of May and see what everyone’s predictions for wins would be.
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It makes you wonder what this team could have done during the regular season with start to finish health of Rodriguez, , Posada, Bruney and Wang. However, that said, they got huge contributions from the far, in Pena and Cervelli, along with Coke. Even the contributions early on from Albaladejo were big. It was only later that he reverted back to his normal level. The only mid-season pickups was Gaudin, Hairston and Hinske, and after a couple of rough spots, he’s starting to show good things for next season. They all contributed quite a bit to a number of wins. It’s a well-designed team, not only for the regular season, but, balanced for the post season.
“I wonder why Pete left”
Closer to home
Probably more $$$
Increased job security
Going 8-8 in the regular season is hardly kicking the crap out of them, trisha
Unless you think they will bow out to the Angels, which I don’t. Yanks got their work cut out for them, but I must say, I haven’t felt this good about a Yankees playoff team since 2000. 98 being the ultimate confidence soarer
jennifer-good point-I forgot all about that!
Personally I think Pete is a sox fan. Though he did take jabs at sox players. Playing to his audience, of course. It will be interesting if he will do the same to the Yankee players.
Here’s a bizarre stat that may surprise some.
“Best against the best: When the best hitters playing this October face the best pitchers, how can we predict who will come up big? Well, we employed statistics calculated on billjamesonline.net to get an idea. James breaks down how batters fared by the quality of pitchers faced, based on pitchers’ ERA. The best pitchers were considered those with ERAs at 3.50 or less, which generally covers a staff ace and in some cases a No. 2, a closer, and top-shelf setup men.
Holliday, Miguel Cabrera, Alex Rodriguez, Torii Hunter, Matt Kemp and Orlando Hudson have posted some of the best numbers among the playoff qualifiers against the best pitchers. Cabrera is batting .359 against the best, though just three of his 32 home runs have come in those 142 at-bats. Holliday is batting .352 with six home runs, 22 RBIs, and a .997 OPS against the best, while A-Rod is batting .284 with nine HRs, 22 RBIs, and a 1.014 OPS. Rodriguez, in fact, has more home runs and a higher OPS against the elite class than he had against the dregs.
Meanwhile, Hunter (.302, six, 20), Hudson (.310) and Kemp (.301, seven, 19) both have hit better than .300 against the sub-3.50 set. If the Twins overtake the Tigers, Joe Mauer also will be among the top achievers, batting .358 with six homers and 17 RBIs.
What about some of the big-name boppers? Albert Pujols (.272, four, 12, .804 OPS) has held his own, while Ryan Howard is batting just .224, but has hit 13 home runs and knocked in 27 runs. Derek Jeter is batting .292, while teammate Mark Teixeira has seven HRs and 22 RBIs to go with a .246 average. Manny Ramirez, the most feared bat in the ’08 postseason, has a so-so .279 average with five home runs and 12 RBIs.
The Red Sox lineup, loaded with All-Stars, has not put up numbers against superior pitching. David Ortiz is at .208, five and 15. Four other of Boston’s best hitters are at .220 or lower: Jason Bay (.204), Kevin Youkilis(.204), Dustin Pedroia(.206) and Victor Martinez(.220). Catcher Jason Varitek is batting .139.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
Is Girardi going to have a player manage the last game of the regular season? I hadn’t heard that he was, and he didn’t last year.
That was Torre’s thing, but I thought it was kind of cool.
Tomorrow is an off day so they can bring out the regulars to keep them in game shape, pull them out early and turn it over the AAA team.
Starting lineup for the Red Sox against Halladay :
1. Joey Gathright, CF
2. Josh Reddick, LF
3. Casey Kotchman, 1B
4. David Ortiz, DH
5. Rocco Baldelli, RF
6. George Kottaras, C
7. Alex Gonzalez, SS
8. Jed Lowrie, 3B
9. Chris Woodward, 2B
LOL ! Looks like the Blue Jays are going to sweep the Sox. I thought that giving a team too much rest would lead to lackluster play in October ?
I think the appropritate hat/gear would of had Boston Red Sox & ALDS on it.
But, it won’t matter next week anyway.
Would love for Joba to get a win today.
“Probably more $$$
Increased job security”
Yeah, I would have considered it as well. I bleed blue however
It would be embarassing for Hallady if he lost to the Paw Sox tonight.
This isn’t the same team that lost 8 straight games to the Red Sox.
A-Rod didn’t even play in 5 of those games.
It’s fun to rip on the Sox for having lame Wild Card Champions hats, but lets not kid ourselves… MLB makes them and mandates that they wear them during the celebration (if there is one). It’s another unfortunate side of big business sports – players being forced to wear commemorative hats/shirts minutes after winning, just so the league can sell them.
I bet that Damon will get the nod for the last game with Pettite as the pitching coach.
DB, We kicked the crap out of them (9-9) when it mattered most…
Al from BK September 30th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I wonder why Pete left, was he always a Sox fan? He could have told us and I wouldn’t have cared since he covered our team so well. Sigh, another meaningless game, is it October yet?
Perhaps he read some tea leaves about the future? No one really knows. Circulation at newspapers is dying and lots of papers have already gone and more join the ranks of the fallen every week. The LoHud Giant guy after many many years was layed off and the blog is no more. I was curious about his new paper and read on the web that the Globe’s circulation is down another 14% this year. Made me wonder about being the new kid on the block?
randy l.
September 30th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
There’s quite a few on here that, if they’ve learned anything from this year have done a pretty good job of keeping the new-found knowledge to themselves.
one thing i’ve learned is that gb7 is keeping his spelling knowledge to himself
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I only misspell words and make typos so as to not give you people an inferiority complex brought on by my high intelligence level.
I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.
I’m already won over Sam!
“Laugh all you want guys….they are in and still a force to be reckoned with. I’ll reserve judgment until we firmly kick the crap out of them.”
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The Angels are 3rd in stolen bases Red Sox are high in SB’s too but only because of Jacoby. Anyways point being The Red Sox have caught 23 runners against 150 SB’s, That 13% CS% and the lowest. The terrible Indians are second to last with 21%. The Red Sox are gonna hurt unless the pitching is lights out.
“Laugh all you want guys….they are in and still a force to be reckoned with.”
db-
i agree, but i think in the first game of the last series jeter swinging on the first pitch of the game and stealing on the second (and the yankees stealing 7 bases that night) has shown everyone where to attack them.
the angels are sure to have paid attention and likely will try to do the same thing.
farrel emphasizes commanding the fastball. there are going to be a lot of first pitch fastballs.
according to brian (red sox fan) the red sox don’t slide step. with lousy throwing arms on both catchers, i think the red sox are ging to have a very hard time getting past the angels and the yankees who both run well.
would have been.
Sorry ’bout that.
I find it pretty funny that Ortiz was bragging that they were going to spray champagne around the Yankee visitor club house because “That is how we roll”…when it came down to it they backed into their Wild Card sport losing 5 in a row and were so embarrassed they wouldn’t let the press in to watch the celebration.
Of course Pete’s twitter is going to direct people to his nw blog. This blog has a new twitter account.
Pov-Yeah good points, newspapers are a dying industry but I still like to pick up the paper on my way to work. I also enjoy getting it to my home and reading it on weekends. Either way good luck to Pete, hopefully he brings some life to that boston paper.
Sorry if I missed it, but who was the player manager last year? I remember watching that game, but that aspect has totally slipped my mind.
Joe September 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
It would be embarassing for Hallady if he lost to the Paw Sox tonight.
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nice, lol
has anyone else taken note of the fact that the Red Sox’ pitching has been abismal the past week or so, despite the fact that they just clinched?
I want to say I hope this continues, but I haven’t made up my mind if I’d rather face them or the Angels in the ALCS…
“TEX TO THE TOP”
For some reason, whenever I read about Teix, I think about those here who didn’t want the Yankees to sign him. This, I’ll never understand. My favorite reason was he was going to block Montero from first base…
Jeremy,
LOL ! Looks like the Blue Jays are going to sweep the Sox. I thought that giving a team too much rest would lead to lackluster play in October ?
It’s a dammed if you do dammed if you don’t either way if you lose you get second guessed, the team was too rested or the team was too tired. Guess each manager trusts his gut with perhaps a bit of help from the players and hopes they win, that way you look like a hero regardless of what you did.
Maybe Halladay will throw a no no facing that lineup. I say at least 15 Ks though.
On top of the losing streak the Sox starting staff is a mess right now:
1) Beckett isn’t even considered their number 1 and is getting shots in his back.
2) Lester was getting shelled by the Yankees before he got hit by a line drive (and who knows how that is going to affect his mechanics).
3) Laptop just got hammered giving up 5 home runs.
4) Wakefield can’t field his position.
5) DiceK pitched well, but is still only a 5 inning pitcher.
6) Byrd is, well Byrd…
A-Rod said in the champagne drenched clubhouse celebration that the team completely bought into Girardi this year and probably echoed the sentiments of the team in saying it.
In ‘08 the team wasn’t sure of itself but combined with the talent Cashman secured in the offseason, Girardi’s confidence settled in with a less rigorous spring training, better use of his bullpen and he just let the players play.
In a way it’s similar to what Coughlin did with the Giants.
Tom in NJ -
I took a walk down memory lane this morning to look for some of my first forays into this blog, back in November of 2006. About mid-month there was some discussion that the yankees should get a “real” first baseman, and I am on record, 3 years ago, that I wanted Mark Teixeira way back then!!!
(Of course, at the same time I was not in favor of going after Andy Pettitte because of his elbow, nor Roger Clemens because one farewell tour was enough! I did change my mind about Andy, who I did love, but thought he was done, but not Clemens.)
Heyoooo Sam, welcome my man!
The iPod line was good stuff hahaha
DB – I aboslutely do think they will bow out to the Angels.
However let me say that 8-8 hardly tells the most important part of the tale, and that is how the teams are playing now and have been playing of late. We’ve all learned that the hottest hand wins in the world series. I would much rather have won the most recent 8 games, including the sweep this past weekend, than to have been on the front end with the 8-0 record.
At the beginning of the season I had guessed at 103 wins for the Yanks. Right now it’s looking like I may have “underbid!” But at no point in the season would I have taken it back for a lower number.
But I tend to be a glass 3/4 full rather than 3/4 empty person (not saying you are a 3/4 empty person!) so it isn’t surprising to me that I stay the course without looking either left or right!
Just remember 04 guys….anything can happen. Or how about 07. How was our record against Detroit that year in the regular season?
One thing is for sure, I can’t wait for October. Que in the annoying guy who did the MLB promo commercials for the playoffs two years ago.
Al from BK September 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Pov-Yeah good points, newspapers are a dying industry but I still like to pick up the paper on my way to work.
I don’t buy it anymore, just read on the web, it’s all there plus much more.
Yeah, Pete’s from Boston (hence the move, along with the more money and bigger paper thing) and is a Sox fan. Who cares, the guy covered the Yankees better than anyone I’ve seen (no offense Sam) and had the best blog on the internet for several years.
GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
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September 30th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Is this the funniest thing in the world, or what? How pathetic…
http://shop.mlb.com/product/in…..cp=3811982
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Little known fact, but, that hat was to be only worn backwards….to give the appearance of backing in to the Wild Card.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm… I’m waiting for a new “Update”. It’s been over an hour already!
DB – I really don’t see the Sox being a force in the post season. Their starters have been horrible and 3 are coming off injuries, they have catchers who can’t throw, short stops who can’t hit, a bullpen that is getting lite up lately. I’d say all the trends point to the Sox being one and done this year.
Peter Rabbit
September 30th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Hmm… I’m waiting for a new “Update”. It’s been over an hour already!
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Pete, shouldn’t you be moving or something?
“I wonder why Pete left, was he always a Sox fan?”
Yep, he has ALWAYS been a Sox fan. He grew up in that area. Sometimes he didn’t do a great job if hiding his allegiance to the Nation, but for the most part, he did okay. I won’t miss him, though. He always felt like a sheep in wolf’s clothing. He even said recently he was voting for Big Papi for MVP… seriously!!!!
DB September 30th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Just remember 04 guys….anything can happen. Or how about 07. How was our record against Detroit that year in the regular season?
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Give it a rest. We are all aware of the boring clichés.
I totally understand the sentiment that anything can happen once the post season starts, but I don’t know how anyone could not have a good feeling about this team going into October. Maybe that’s just me being an eternal optimist, but I think this team just has something about them-I’ll honestly be shocked if they don’t make it past the first round.
DB – 03 and 04 the Sox were the best team in baseball…not so this year…Yes anything can happen, but is it very likely? I’d say no…
I consider myself a realist. One who doesn’t count their chickens before they are hatched.
pat m-
i get the part about the bullpen and how the long series keeps the bullpen fresh.
my question is whether the yankees are going to do just pay attention to their strength or if they are going to look at the weakness of the opposing team and take that into account.
what if the team they are facing has a really weak bullpen and a really bad 4th starter?
personally, i would look at the other team’s weakness before making a decision.
“I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.”
I was hoping that the new guy would have a better taste in music then Pete (I hate Bruce Springsteen) but with this we’ve regressed even more.
UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.: Posada back in the lineup, though Girardi said he’s “curious to see” how Posada’s neck feels after catching tonight. … Dave Robertson said he has no lingering soreness in his elbow, which is encouraging. He’ll pitch again tomorrow in Tampa. … Girardi was asked if he’s committed to starting Posada in every postseason game or if Molina would be an option. “Those are things that we will consider,” he said.
“Just remember 04 guys….anything can happen.”
DB, 04* was the year the the Sux had a starting rotation that did not spend one day on the DL. It was also the year that the Yankees went scrambling for pitchers after Kevin Brown thought it made sense to break his hand in September. Our entire rotation had time on the DL that year! Plus it appears that the ROid boys, Ramirez and Ortiz, were getting a little extracurricular help, Bronson Arroyo already admitted he was using steroids, and Jack Daniels flowed freely in that clubhouse before games.
“Or how about 07. How was our record against Detroit that year in the regular season?”"
07 is the bain of my existence as a Yankee fan. That’s the year that Torre thought it made sense to put Arod in the 8 hole and decided to play Matsui and Sheffield in the postseason, though neither had really played much all year, at the expense of the kids who got him there and were hot as hell.
I am certainly not thinking that Girardi is going to manage in an erratic fashion.
I certainly feel extremely comfortable and confident that the Yankees are going to go all the way with this one. And anyway, didn’t the NY astrologers say that the new Stadium had nothing but good vibes associated with it? Heck that should be enough of an endorsement!
randy l -
If they choose the longer series, not only do the pitchers get more rest, but the players as well. If they win that series, the will also be fresher for the following series. That’s another way to look at it, maybe?
Of course, I’m always torn about whether it is a good thing for a team to sweep a playoff series or not. The Rockies a couple of years ago, they came in hot as anything and then they had to sit and wait and they cooled off. Or maybe they were just outplayed. But it can’t be good to sit and wait for days.
Which series has the fewest days between it and the next series?
“I wonder why Pete left”
Closer to home
Probably more $$$
Increased job security”
Also let’s face it, the Boston Globe is a farm system for ESPN. In 2-3 years, maybe even less than that, don’t be surprised to see Pete have a blog on ESPN Boston or ESPN New York.
“Just remember 04 guys….anything can happen.”
I remember ‘04 just fine. That was the strike year. No World Series. No Playoffs even. The season ended with the Yanks winning the division, despite a shaky rotation.
randy l.
September 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
“An important aspect to this evenings game is for Joba to build upon his last start……”
pat m-
i agree totally. if he pitches really well, it makes a difference in decisions the yankees make for the playoffs.
i still keep reading different things about which series the yankees are going to take.
if that is still up for question in yankee management’s mind, then this start is huge.
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there is one other issue about which series the Yankees will pick. If the Tigers-Twins goes to the last day, Verlander will pitch Sunday and would not be available for a Wednesday game and most likely not available for a Thursday game-it’s tough to imagine him coming back on 3 days rest after throwing his normal 120-130 pitches. So, if the Yankees decide to go with the shorter series and the Tigers eke out the division, Verlander might only pitch one game. I doubt, though, that the Yankees would do that if Joba pitches poorly tonight-it still would mean Verlander doesn’t go in game 1 but would still pitch a game 5 if needed (which I doubt).
GB7 you beat me to it with the “backing in” comment.
Those hats are pathetic.
I wanna meet the tool who dares to wear one of those.
The Yankees actually have a better ERA than the other AL playoff contenders. But the media won’t even talk about it.
“Girardi was asked if he’s committed to starting Posada in every postseason game or if Molina would be an option. “Those are things that we will consider,” he said.”
why wouldn’t girardi take into account that posada’s neck is bothering him?
i think girardi’s tendency will be to micromanage in the playoffs rather that jsut letting them play.
he’s going to be looking at everything, and it won’t surprise me to see him do some things we don’t expect.
“Also let’s face it, the Boston Globe is a farm system for ESPN. In 2-3 years, maybe even less than that, don’t be surprised to see Pete have a blog on ESPN Boston or ESPN New York.”
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. If I were a journalist I would want in on the ESPN payroll.
Noreaster
Do you know he was trying to blame his back problems on bad beds on the road. I’ve heard the bad pillow excuse from some players on this team. But beds. They aren’t staying at a Motel 6. And sleeping poorly doesn’t lead one to getting THREE CORTISONE SHOTS in their back. Memo to the Angels, bunt bunt and bunt again!
Sorry Giuseppe, that’s two boring cliche’s for you.
I’m not trying to be harbinger of bad news here (sorry for 3rd
). Like I said, I haven’t had this much confidence in the Yanks since the Dynasty Years. By that, I mean 98-00. I really like our chances this year, but just like those years, nothing is certain. Even in 98, Cleveland was up 2 to 1 on us and I’m sure most people were worried at least a little.
Jeremy September 30th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
The Yankees actually have a better ERA than the other AL playoff contenders. But the media won’t even talk about it.
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Eliminate Wang’s 45 era and see how much it goes down.
“07 is the bain of my existence as a Yankee fan. That’s the year that Torre thought it made sense to put Arod in the 8 hole and decided to play Matsui and Sheffield in the postseason”
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That was 06. But those years blend together for me too.
NOOO we can’t have Jose’s dead bat in the lineup!
Hey guys 2007 was the Yankees vs. Indians. 2006 was the Yankees vs. Tigers.
“he’s going to be looking at everything, and it won’t surprise me to see him do some things we don’t expect.”
Not putting your best lineup in a playoff game is just plain dumb. If Posada is healthy then he needs be the catcher because the pitcher going against AJ isn’t some scrub pitcher.
Funny how no one likes to remember what REALLY happened in 04.
I’ll give you all a hint…….3-0 in ALCS
“Waving the bloody shirt” with the 2004 references.
vin ‘04 – pretty damn funny. I remember that too.
I listened to the Tigers game on the radio last night. They said that if Verlander needs to pitch on Sunday and the Tigers win, he would start Game 2 and then Game 5 if neccessary on 3 days rest.
DB you must’ve been watching a different October than the rest of us.
I don’t remember that at all.
Drive 4-5
September 30th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I listened to the Tigers game on the radio last night. They said that if Verlander needs to pitch on Sunday and the Tigers win, he would start Game 2 and then Game 5 if neccessary on 3 days rest.
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I guess based on that info the Yankees will only face him once then.
Except for the Mariners, the Yankees have the lowest WHIP in the AL.
I think that if the Tigers make it their pitching will be running on fumes. Edwin Jackson hasn’t been pitching well for a while now with an increase in innings, and I think Verlander’s arm is going to be spent from the increase workload -innings pitched, and pitches per game.
I didn’t even know we had a 2004.
We can speculate & play “what if” & use all the cliches we want.
How about this?
If the Yanks & Indians had each sealed the deal with one more win, BOS would be staring at 90 years and counting
with nada.
Either way, it has zero to do with this year.
“Which series has the fewest days between it and the next series?”
doreen-
i have no idea on that. i hate days off during the playoffs and think a lot of days off is just a parity move by mlb to make it more of a crap shoot .
the yankees most years would benefit from playing almost every day just like the regular season because they are deeper in talent than almost every other team.
i may be talking myself into thinking the yankees should take the short series and be using four starters and be in better shape than the tigers or twins because they are a deeper team.
Ooooh, I feel like such a party pooper…..boo on me.
So, how about that Tex? How frikkin awesome is he?
Rabdy I, As always you make a very compelling point……I believe you play to your clubs strenght, and then find a way to maximize that strength vs. an opponents weakness……..Tanks have the best bullpen in baseball, they have a better than average rotation….Giradi & Cashman need to do wtah ever they can to keep that status …..As we all know it’s pitch ball come October…….Yanks are a club without any real noticable weakness’…..All the other clubs have a glaring concerns……
trisha,
put me down for 106.
a few weeks ago i thought about the yankees finishing the season 50 games over 500 and that’s still possible, so that’s my vote!
Isn’t the Globe fully or partially owned by the NY Times?
Sam, you are much better looking than Peter.
3) Laptop just got hammered giving up 5 home runs.
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Why does everyone call Buchholz, Laptop?
Swing Brett Gardner SWING ALREADY! – Formerly GardnerBelongsInCenter
September 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing) September 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Ctrl + Home on the keyboard
Makes the type Bigger- Thanks!
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haha sorry Control and Home, not Control and Plus sign
THANKS!
Sam, in all honesty, I got choked up this morning reading Pete’s farewell email. . . .but I have checked back to the website a few times today and I only wish you could see the smile on my face, as each time you had a new post up for my reading enjoyment.
thank you for taking care of us rabid Yankee fans while Pete is gone and before Chad joins us. You have no idea how much we appreciate you!
Go YANKEES
With Hughes & Mo, you’re looking at the good old days – a 7 inning game.
Maybe even 6, if Coke/Aceves/Robertson/Bruney/Marte have to piece something together.
No one else (DET, BOS, LAA) comes close
jpb1973
He stole labtops from his high school
ooooh, I feel like the party pooper now…boo on me.
randy l., a radio host(forgot which) made a good point. He said you want to play to your teams strengths not to the other teams weaknesses. Our strength is our top 3 and our bullpen. It behooves us to give our BP the ability to pitch every day with the extra day of rest. Specifically Hughes and Rivera. And I guess Joba too.
2004 has as much relevance as 1927 does. Youkalis wasnt even on the ALCS or World Series roster back in ‘04. Ortiz was, but he’s off the “shakes” now. He can be handled, regardless of his home runs. Jason Varitek is flat out washed up. The Sox opponents should send a car for Varitek to make sure he makes it to the ballpark.The only pitcher left is Tim Wakefield, and odds are he wont even make the postseason roster. Even if he does, he’s 43 with a chronic bad back.
Not to be forgotten, but, when looking back at the minor league contributions from the kids on the Yankees, don’t forget that the Arizona Fall League starts in two weeks and NYY has 6 really good young players heading for the southwest. Foremost, the AFL is a hitter’s league, so seeing what Ian Kennedy does should be interesting. NYY is sending 7 players this year….Pitchers Ian Kennedy, Mike Dunn, Grant Duff and Zach Kroenke, Catcher Austin Romine, 3rd/1st baseman Brandon Laird and Outfielder Colin Curtis.
If people want it, I’ll update most of the games as they become available. Here’s the info to help keep tabs on them.
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/.....mp;cid=527
“Funny how no one likes to remember what REALLY happened in 04.
I’ll give you all a hint…….3-0 in ALCS
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Nope… doesn’t ring a bell. And if you’re wondering, I only remember Dave Roberts as a Dodger.
ooooh, i feel like such the party killer….. boo on me.
randy l., a radio host (forgot which) made a good point a couple of days ago. He said you want to play to your teams strengths not the other teams weakness. Our strength is our Top 3 starters and our BP. It behooves us to take advantage of the extra days rest to give Mo, Joba, and Hughes the ability to pitch everyday if need be.
Thanks GB7.
Is there any criteria for sending some kids and not others? Obviously for pitchers it’s the extra work, get their innings up…
Dave Roberts? Name rings a bell, but I don’t know.
Roberts you said?
“Not putting your best lineup in a playoff game is just plain dumb. If Posada is healthy then he needs be the catcher because the pitcher going against AJ isn’t some scrub pitcher.”
crawdaddy-
if girardi starts molina with burnett and posada is healthy, i’ll be surprised, but i wouldn’t call it dumb.
we’d never hear the real reason from girardi, but i think if that happened it’d be a feel thing rather than girardi having any negative beliefs about posada’s catching ability.
He stole labtops from his high school
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Jennifer,
Thanks for the feedback…I didn’t know that.
jennifer
September 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
jpb1973
He stole labtops from his high school
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You been taking lessons from GB7?
One other thing that’s just been added is the Arizona Instructional League. It’s for players like austin Jackson, who’s not eligible for the Fall League. Kids about to make the big jump but need to polish their skills on last time. Those games start 25 October. Poke around on this link for the info available.
I’ll link more as I locate them.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=6801301
“Thanks for the feedback…I didn’t know that.”
He’s been banned by every Best Buy in Boston.
Too bad there will probably be no Krazy Kyle sighting tonight.
The gift that keeps on giving.
GB, Updates are most welecomed……
“Girardi was asked if he’s committed to starting Posada in every postseason game or if Molina would be an option. “Those are things that we will consider,” he said.”
AHA!
I would say that whatever gives the Yanks the best chance of winning is what Girardi will do. I’m chill with whatever Girardi does. How could I not be!
DB – if you are a realist then you should be planning to enjoy the hell out of this postseason.
And why do you feel the need to try to cause people to relive things the way you have if that isn’t the way they lived them when they happened? We all remember what happened in 04* Some of us remember what led up to it too, the entire season’s worth, and it softened the blow for some of us. (Some of us also factor in things we later learned about the goings on of the team.) If it didn’t for you, it didn’t.
I cannot apologize for being someone who doesn’t worry. I just don’t. But I sure can understand and respect that a lot of people do.
I would assume there’s room for all of us on this Yankee clipper!
” He said you want to play to your teams strengths not the other teams weakness.”
db-
sj44 said the same thing recently.
i can see that way of looking at things , and i can’t really argue against strongly against it.
but at the same time the playoffs have been set up as an intitution to penalize the depth of a team like the yankees that historically has depth.
so why play into the hands of the people who set it up as a crap shoot and let undermanned teams not be exposed?
“Isn’t the Globe fully or partially owned by the NY Times?”
Frank, used to be, but no more.
trisha speak for yourself.
I don’t remember ‘04 like you at all
Something like that Patrick Duffy out of the shower scene on Dallas
L to the 2nd
September 30th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Thanks GB7.
Is there any criteria for sending some kids and not others? Obviously for pitchers it’s the extra work, get their innings up…
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Young players like Kennedy, who was injured most of the year are eligible. Jackson played last year and isn’t eligible. Generally, it’s for the AA and AAA kids, though some high profile A league players like Romine. Check the link and it explains it better than I can.
One other thing….it’s disappointing, but, the Yanks as of right now aren’t participating in the Arizona Instructional League.
“I didn’t even know we had a 2004.”
Trisha:
“We’ve all learned that the hottest hand wins in the world series.”
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This certainly has not been true in the past for the Yanks. They have played miserably at the end of the regular season and still got into & won the WS.
To quote the almighty NYC sports guru – Mike Francesa says – the WS is really a crap shoot and that winning in the regular season has little to do with winning in the post season.
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Vin – 104
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
Frank from Chatham – 105
M – 106
Noreaster – 104
Saucy – 106
RS fan here are basing their optimism for this year on 04.
Yankee fans are basing their pessimism on 04.
Which one is right?
GB7 did Montero ever play in the AFL?
I would think he’d be a candidate.
I would be curious to see how many managers would take the short series if given a choice. I can’t imagine many.
Yeah the Sox are a good team but they are not as good as they used to be. The Sox rotation is banged up, Pedro and Schilling are no longer on this team, and many of their hitters Ortiz, Varitek are washed up or just plain average.
Trisha – me and my 105 appear to have fallen off your list
MaineYankee
September 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
jennifer
September 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
jpb1973
He stole labtops from his high school
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You been taking lessons from GB7?
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How is a guy from Moosebutt, Maine qualified to talk about my spelling and typing? The hills of Kentucky is more 21st century than Maine.
I think there is a lot to be said for playing well going into the playoffs. Anyway you look at it, the Yanks are ’set up’, now all they have to do is execute.
Throw Yo Hands In The Aiya If Your a True Playa
Frank, you can get hot during the last week of the season! (Or you can be so far superior to the rest of the field that your worst game can still take the day.)
I absolutely believe that the team that takes the best momentum into the season has an edge of the rest. That would be the Yankees so far as I can see.
Hey, layoff Maine GB7!
I don’t necessarily buy into the hottest hand theory.
The NYY played AWFUL down the stretch in 2000 – finished with 87 wins – worked out OK
You could argue that may work for some WC teams (FLA, BOS), but if that were the case COL should’ve won in ‘07
Hey, time for another cliche:
“That’s why they play the games on the field & not paper”
Trisha:
Sept 25 2009
The Times is owned by The New York Times Co., which also publishes The Boston Globe, the International Herald Tribune and more than a dozen smaller daily newspapers.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....Union.html
randy l., I see your reasoning and I agree with you to certain extent. The one thing that would worry me is the perception of it. It promotes the underdog against all odds persona of the other team. I think it’s best to go with the odds on this.
L to the 2nd
September 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
GB7 did Montero ever play in the AFL?
I would think he’d be a candidate.
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No, Montero will be playing in the Venezuelan Winter Leagues, as will most Latin players, who’ll play in their country’s winter leagues.
Trisha, the NYT still owns the Globe. The Times was looking/trying to sell it, but they couldn’t find a deal they liked-yet…
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
MaineYankee
September 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
jennifer
September 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
jpb1973
He stole labtops from his high school
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You been taking lessons from GB7?
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How is a guy from Moosebutt, Maine qualified to talk about my spelling and typing? The hills of Kentucky is more 21st century than Maine.
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What do you mean? We got the internet now.
I hear HD tv is coming next year.
L to the 2nd, I feel a Sterling quote coming soon.
I think if the Yankees draw the Tigers and this Tiger/ Twins thing goes down to the wire the Yankees should big the series with the least amount of off days. Take advantage of a tired rotation.
You just can’t predict baseball…..
(Smacks self in head)
Rish – I can’t even explain it.
Sorry about that.
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Rishi – 105
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Vin – 104
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
Frank from Chatham – 105
M – 106
Noreaster – 104
Saucy – 106
I hope that the Twins and Tigers go down to the last game of the season and the Tigers have to use Verlander on Sunday.
Should we do a “Guess the Game 162 Manager” while we’re at it?
L to the 2nd
September 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
You just can’t predict baseball…..
(Smacks self in head)
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Don’t tell that to ESPN.
MaineYankee
September 30th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
How is a guy from Moosebutt, Maine qualified to talk about my spelling and typing? The hills of Kentucky is more 21st century than Maine.
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What do you mean? We got the internet now.
I hear HD tv is coming next year.
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I hear that within the next three years, you’ll have electricity to plug into and run it. Congrats on the progress, Maine. LMAO.
How’s the weather up your way? Finally, 3 straight days without rain down here in Savannah.
Thanks for that info. I thought a sale had gone through (Boston Globe – NY Times).
MaineYankee
ESPN?
Yes, a ollection of nostradumbasses
Maine Yankee -
I have been and will continue to call 2004 a complete meltdown combined with poor Torre decisions and some bad bounces (see Tony Clark for reference).
Tunnel visioned Boston calls it a choke seeing as they experienced so much of it and meltdown would never be a part of their vocabulary.
*collection
Trisha
Isn’t this latest game kinda like picking the winng horse coming down the back strech.
“the WS is really a crap shoot and that winning in the regular season has little to do with winning in the post season.”
1998 ?
This season they didn’t really get on that roll till June. There was a nice streak in mid May but it didn’t truly stick. Then came that Atlanta series near the end of June. and apart from a few hiccups earlier this month, it’s been full steam ahead since.
In 98′ they were pretty much steamrolling throughout the whole season.
Then they did the same in the postseason. It was like money in the bank.
I think if the Yankees draw the Tigers and this Tiger/ Twins thing goes down to the wire the Yankees should big the series with the least amount of off days. Take advantage of a tired rotation.
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in this case they need to take the longer series, because it starts quicker. If it goes down to the wire Verlander has to pitch on sunday, which means he’d only be able to go on Game 2 or 3 and would have to make some starts on short rest.
And game 1 starter would not be the normal guy.
the blog ate my post
i quit
Well the Yankees were slumping for a while until the second game of the Angels series. So they have been playing well during the last week of the season. I think if a team goes into the postseason and just performs they will win.
Trisha:
Frank, you can get hot during the last week of the season! (Or you can be so far superior to the rest of the field that your worst game can still take the day.)
I absolutely believe that the team that takes the best momentum into the season has an edge of the rest. That would be the Yankees so far as I can see.
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History is not on your side with this.
GB7
Cool and overcast today. I know normal for this time of year right.
Had been sunny and nice the past few days.
Love Hal Steinbrenner’s little zinger at the beat writers.
L to the 2nd – Not only do I buy the “hottest hand” theory, Derek Jeter buys it! So I’m in good company.
That said, I cannot imagine a poster here with any operating brain cells who wouldn’t be puking at this point if we were sitting with the same “happenings” as we’ve seen with the Sux over the last three weeks. Good lord, they don’t have a starter left who is both healthy and effective! And have you been watching their vaunted pen?
So okay, I would probably still be thinking the Yankees would take it all – but I lack the worry gene. Realistically, I like our chances much much much much much much better than theirs. In fact, I like our chances much better than any of the teams we may be facing.
And yeah, we did win in 2000, but it wasn’t any cakewalk. There was an element of luck there too, such as when in the critical game in Oakland one Derek Jeter executed his historic shovel pass and saved the game for Mike Mussina!
DB, Hal’s comments as posted in a prior thread were fine with me…..If the Yankees lose in the first round again, ? have to be asked as to whether something is wrong with the actual team since this would be a ridiculous streak of terrible performances. IMO, unless Joe just makes egregious mistakes, an early exit from the post-season would not be his fault. It all comes down to the players. If Hal fires Joe impulsively…or even after thinking about it……it wouldn’t reflect well on him. As much as Joe aggravates me at times, he’s done a fine job and certainly wouldn’t deserve to be fired.
“History is not on your side with this.”
I disagree.
MaineYankee
September 30th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
GB7
Cool and overcast today. I know normal for this time of year right.
Had been sunny and nice the past few days.
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That’s good, Maine. Happy to hear that your heatwave is over. Did it dry up all of the streams and lakes?
Jerkface
Yeah your right. I hope that this AL Central race goes down to the wire because the advantage goes to the Yankees. So you are right, they should pick the longer series. Verlander pitching game 3 would not be a good situation for the Tigers.
Someone else brought this up (too lazy to check) but the manager for the day was a Torre thing….Maybe Girardi didn’t do it last year because they weren’t going anywhere? Maybe Sam can find out?
Frank, if your manager manages you out of contention then it doesn’t matter how hot your hand is…
“I think it’s best to go with the odds on this.”
DB-
this isn’t something i’m going to get too revved up about whatever the yankees decide, but in general i would think the more time between games would benefit teams that are not as deep as the yankees.
on the other hand, this particular year, the yankees are actually not deep in the bullpen. the quality drops off pretty quickly. maybe this is the biggest reason for wanting the long series.
trisha, that would be “The Flip”
I just had the feeling the Yanks were going to win.
“Trisha
Isn’t this latest game kinda like picking the winng horse coming down the back strech.”
Course it is!
But people wanted to go with it, especially those who may not still be in the running on the beginning-of-the-season prediction chart.
Anything for the team!
L, nothing beats a good steak dinner…..period.
GB, I love your updates so if it’s not a bother, I would love to hear reports on the AFL. Last year it was exciting because Phil was there……….Ian pitching should be interesting as well, even though I won’t be sitting by my computer on days he pitches, lol.
DB – you’re right.
Betsy, I don’t think for one second that Hal would fire Girardi even with an early exit. The point I was trying to make, although failed miserably, was that the team doesn’t benefit now from Girardi knowing his job is safe for next year. The focus is now. Which is exactly what Hal said and Don ripped him for.
Trisha, what’s the Ortiz karma?
DB – just karma having to do with the exposure about Ortiz bulking up on those magic milkshakes, despite his denial of doing anything but taking Dominican vitamins!
Kind of “what you put out comes back on you – and your team.”
randy l,
I think another reason for the longer series besides the bullpen is for Alex. The Yankees will probably be playing this series in cool weather if the last few days here are any indication and we don’t know how Alex’s hip will respond. This will give him extra rest as well.
Does anyone remember reading about AJ making mechanical adjustments prior to going on this little run? I don’t remember reading it, but others have mentioned that he did and that that would account for his improved pitching recently. Thanks!
randy l,
“I think another reason for the longer series besides the bullpen is for Alex.”
That’s a great observation.I hadnt even thought of that angle. But I think it’s more of a side benefit of the longer series than the compelling reason ( pitching).
Trisha:
My pick for your End of Season Wins Chart = 105
Hmh . . . Sounds like Pete.
From the LoHud archives
2008 – Doesn’t look like Girardi had an honorary manager
2007 – Posada (Andy was pitching coach)
2006 – Bernie (both Mo and Mussine were vying for the job)
we need more info
great point Fran, didn’t think of that.
Betsy, He and Girardi said it last night in the postgame interviews.
trisha, his extra-curricular activities in the Dominica have gone unchecked also. If those come out, trust me, the fan will not smell nice.
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Rishi – 105
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Vin – 104
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
Frank from Chatham – 105
M – 106
Noreaster – 104
Saucy – 106
The Cro – 105
I will add any others later on, but they must have been received before the first pitch of tonight’s game.
Later y’all.
2006 – Bernie and Moose, thanks to Tyler Kepner’s article.
“The Yankees will probably be playing this series in cool weather if the last few days here are any indication and we don’t know how Alex’s hip will respond. This will give him extra rest as well.”
yup, that’s a plus for going with the long series.
i’m looking forwrd to seeing alex in the playoffs with his new stance.
he’s had some really good situational at bats in the past few months.
Betsy
September 30th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
L, nothing beats a good steak dinner…..period.
GB, I love your updates so if it’s not a bother, I would love to hear reports on the AFL. Last year it was exciting because Phil was there……….Ian pitching should be interesting as well, even though I won’t be sitting by my computer on days he pitches, lol.
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Betsy, I’ll keep updating as the infor comes in and then a last update at around 8 PM when the infor is complete. I’m hoping to find the radio feeds to get some background on speeds, defense and other little notes. The Hawaiian League provided radio feeds last year. Arizona didn’t, but, maybe it’ll change this year. It’s getting a lot of press and coverage, so, maybe. It’ll help that all 7 of the kids are on the same team. I’m hoping to get links to the winter leagues this year, too.
Trisha:
Is poor managing your response to the Yanks losing 2002, 2003, & 2004 after winning 103, 103 & 101 games respectively where they bottom feasted all season? Or, might it have been Yankee poor pitching?
Or, 2005 & 2006 when Wang & Johnson imploded after winning 95 and 97 games. I could go on….
I thought Mussina was the manager
Rodriguez gave major props to Teixeira, comparing him to a mix of Tino Martinez and Paul O’Neill. so much for the old BS rumors that they didn’t like each other.
The smartest thing Rodriguez said or didn’t say was naming a team MVP. He said that the real MVP was Girardi.
Fran, The Alex angle is an excellent point….When you look at all the advanges that line up for Cashman / Giradi, I think it outweighs the reasons for not taking the shorter option…….After the ALDS, it’s rapid fire baseball
haha, I love the poll on the side about doing a Minka Kelly or Kate Hudson poll.
That’d be hard, but I really like Friday Night Lights, & I’ve read the book. (Good Book)so I’d have to go with Minka. She looks like an average girl, but hot.
Looks like Zack Greinke is spouting his mouth off about the Yankees,matching up to the Twins,better than the Tigers,at this site. http://www.slidingintohome.blogspot.com
Yankees never faced Greinke this year,looking forward to it next year.Another Yankee hater it seems!
Then google: Zack Greinke anxiety problem.
Hey Sam, great job! Keep up the good work.
2008 – Doesn’t look like Girardi had an honorary manager
2007 – Posada (Andy was pitching coach)
2006 – Bernie (Mussina)
2005 – none (the Yanks were playing for home field in the ALDS).
2004 – Ruben Sierra (Mo)
2003 – Clemens (Andy [bench], Mussina [pitching])
2002 – none (the Yanks were playing for home field adv.)
2001 – none (can’t find a reason)
2000 – Paul O’Neill
OK, that was exhausting. But at least we have a better idea.
Greinke has a point though- Tigers have better starting pitching then the Twins. They’ll be a tougher out because of that.
“I thought Mussina was the manager”
Last year? I read somewhere (I think LoHud archive) that he just took out the lineup card.
pat m-
any gut feeling about alex in the playoffs.
i’m expecting him to do well.
i love the new approach.
i never thought i’d see him make this change.
pinella a long time ago said you have to have a swing to fit your personality. he said that one difference between him and reggie was that he had to get a hit a night or he wouldn’t sleep well. he said reggie could go a week and not get a hit and it wouldn’t bother him.
alex has the power of reggie, but he can’t go a week without getting a hit and have it not bother him . this swing gives him more hits more often and takes the pressure off. and he’s so strong he’ll still get his homers.
Welcome, Sam!
Hey everybody…game time in 20 min…
“pinella a long time ago said you have to have a swing to fit your personality. he said that one difference between him and reggie was that he had to get a hit a night or he wouldn’t sleep well. he said reggie could go a week and not get a hit and it wouldn’t bother him.
alex has the power of reggie, but he can’t go a week without getting a hit and have it not bother him . this swing gives him more hits more often and takes the pressure off. and he’s so strong he’ll still get his homers.
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Wow, that’s a really great point.
Kind of reminds me of the traits that make up a great closer. A guy like Mo can blow the game and not have it affect his next appearance.
hey….I called 105 on Opening Day.
Who cares what Zach Greinke has to say? He’s a very talented young pitcher with trouble not flapping his jaws, regardless of the target. He’s trashed teammates, both in the media and to their faces. Not exactly the type of teammate that makes for smooth sailing. The one thing he hasn’t done is explain his own failures. He’s been outstanding over the last two years, but, that hasn’t always been the case. Consider him a combination of Reggie Jackson and David Wells. As far as him never going to “pitch for the Yankees”, he’ll be like most of the others saying the same thing….he’ll go with the money.
I don’t think Greinke was saying that the Yankees can’t beat the Tigers, but that the Tigers will be a harder opponent because of the pitching they have in the rotation. Verlander being the one. The Twins don’t really have an ace.
Is it any wonder that O’Neill and Pinella clashed so often and so violently? They were identical people and players. I do think that Pinella had an ego that outstripped his talents, though.
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Is it any wonder that O’Neill and Pinella clashed so often and so violently? They were identical people and players. I do think that Pinella had an ego that outstripped his talents, though.
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I love when O’Neill tells the story of when Pinella made him put platforms in his shoes cause he thought it would help him hit. LOL
Btw- Hi y’all (yes, I am still on that)
I have been following. Just stuck at work
“Is poor managing your response to the Yanks losing 2002, 2003, & 2004 after winning 103, 103 & 101 games respectively where they bottom feasted all season? Or, might it have been Yankee poor pitching?”
Surely you’re not trying to say the Yankees were the hottest team in all of those years going into the postseason? We’re not talking about best record, we’re talking about the team that gets the hottest at the right time. 2003 had its own special circumstances as I remember. Wells pitching with a bad back, Pettitte being sent ahead and therefore unavailable, and Jeff Weaver being put in a game in extra innings.
The Yankees were far from the hottest hand in 2004. Their starting pitching had been DLd all season. Winning the division doesn’t make you the hottest team going into the postseason.
Anyway, if you really want to pursue this argument, I’d suggest you ask Sam Borden to have a Q and A session with Jeter and then ask him why he thinks that the team that is playing the hottest baseball has the best chance to win the world series. Take up all of your arguments with him. See what he has to say.
In the meantime you and I can just agree to disagree.
GB, I don’t know how you find the time, but thanks! I like that all our kids are on the same team….
DB, thanks! I will listen to AJ’s post-game again……..
Hi y’all
Has anyone heard anything further on that football player who dropped the weight on his throat?
Randy I, One of the things I remember mentioning during the off-season after the Yanks signed Tex, AJ & CC, was that Alex has to feel a little more relaxed because of the spotlight would no longer be on him directly…….Then came the Roberts story and of course the hip injury….To me that just made it all easier for Alex to be Alex the Ballplayer and bo longer the media circus that was Alex…….The tweeking and the re-adjustments to his approach and his swing has been excellent, almost slump proff……He’s going to be THE MAJOR story come Novemeber
UPDATE, 6:53 p.m.: There’s a giant Snoopy on the field to help present the Player of the Month award to Mark Teixeira. Personally, I think the Yankees should have more presentations that involve big stuffed animals.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Now Snoopy is dancing to “I Want to Rock.”
Betsy
September 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
GB, I don’t know how you find the time, but thanks! I like that all our kids are on the same team….
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The baseball games keep the twins occupied. They sure to go through the pizza and beer, though.
They’re pretty much what I do during the day, while their momma works. They watch baseball and torment the dog.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Now Snoopy is dancing to “I Want to Rock.”
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Has anyone heard anything further on that football player who dropped the weight on his throat?
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As of last night, he was critical but stable.
Lets go Yankees! Sweeeeeep!
Saw Ronan Tynan on the street again was gonna saw hi but he was on the phone.
Thanks GB.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 30th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Saw Ronan Tynan on the street again was gonna saw hi but he was on the phone.
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Can you just admit you stalk him?
It’s “I Wanna Rock ”
Not I Want to Rock
It’s Tex’s into song although I couldn’t guess why.
Chamberlain’s big problems tonight should be Butler and Jacobs.
*intro song*
Erica – always OPPC
September 30th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 30th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Saw Ronan Tynan on the street again was gonna saw hi but he was on the phone.
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Can you just admit you stalk him?
guilty
what’s up with joba’s heavy breathing?
Not being able to throw strikes to this team is an absolute disgrace.
Nick in SF, If your out there, take Hawaii tonight……..Joba, you have to step it up tonight
I always thought it was “I want a rock”
Joba doesn’t have it tonight…
Does anybody know who the player manager is????
Man this kid is frustrating.
“Has anyone heard anything further on that football player who dropped the weight on his throat?”
I heard this morning his throat is damaged so they don’t know how much speech he will recover but he was in stable condition. The doctors said he was lucky to have such a muscular neck or the consequences would have been worse.
so it’s Yucky Joba tonight
Twins up 2-0 bases loaded
Poor Joba. I actually think he’s working too fast. I’m repeating my last question because I’m tremendously curious…who’s managing?
Joba needs to settle down and throw strikes.23 pitches in an inning is ng.
since most people are ready to condemn joba…
ill go out on a limb and say he settles down and pitches a nice game
go minny go!
UPDATE, 6:59 p.m.: Nice touch by the Yankees, who just had a video presentation where numerous team members said thank-you to the fans for their support this season. Derek Jeter, of course, led off; Brian Cashman referenced Rex Ryan’s appeal to Jets fans when asking for Yankees fans to get loud this October; Nick Swisher gave an extra salute to the Bleacher Creatures; Hideki Matsui did his in both English and Japanese; and Joe Girardi finished it off by saying he’s hoping all the fans will have plenty of reasons to pie the Yankees before this postseason is over.
I LOVE THIS LINEUP!!!
Well the Tigers are in trouble. 2-0 Twins in teh first.
JEter!!!
“I heard this morning his throat is damaged so they don’t know how much speech he will recover but he was in stable condition. The doctors said he was lucky to have such a muscular neck or the consequences would have been worse.”
What a horribly freaky accident. Maybe the poor kid can salvage his football career once he recovers.
Rishi—where can i find the video??
Tunnel Man……….It’s called laboring, sucking for air, winded……..This is what I saw back in July in Aanheim……Whenever he goes long in an inning this is what happens when your not in shape
Gaudin > Joba for the playoff roster/4th starter
Jeter don’t play that!
SWEET!
The Tigers got out of it. Put I think that the Twins will take this game.
Valerie G.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Rishi—where can i find the video??
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I just copy/pasted Sam’s update from above in case people missed it…that’s not from me
NOT a Yankee Stadium cheapie!
Jeter needs to get 2 more in the 3+ games to reach 20.
derek jeter..clap clap clap clap clap
i read the kid should make a full recovery
dont know when he will talk
did not read if or when he will or can play
he is communicating through writing,etc….
I want to hear sui speak english
El Capitan!!!!!
He better eat some Wheaties and get two more for 20.. or else!!!
Nice Jetes.
I am so glad we have Derek Jeter and no other team ever will!
“Tunnel Man……….It’s called laboring, sucking for air, winded……..This is what I saw back in July in Aanheim……Whenever he goes long in an inning this is what happens when your not in shape”
hopefully we see a more in shape joba next year…and not neccessarily weight wise because i think he was heavier last year..
Valerie, if you’re talking about the player-manager thing that was a Torre thing. It was done during the last game of the season. Girardi didn’t do it last year.
Rishi–thanks. That’s unfortunate. Does anybody know where I can watch that?
tex swinging for 40
I hope Teixiera gets this home run tonight. I’d hate for him to go a couple of games without a home run then start pressing to win the AL title and ruin his swing.
Jeter is God.
rb–yeah, that’s what I’m talking about…are you sure he didn’t last year because I though he did…could be wrong. In any case, i hope girardi continues the tradition this yr.
Great swings from Jeter and Rodriguez. Rodriguez should be able to get at least on tonight. strangely, this year, very few homers to right field, though, a lot of singles and doubles.
This is a critical must-win game.
The Yankees are 19-5 on Wednesday. It’s their last shot to win 20. So much pressure on Joba. Nobody remembers 19 game Wednesday winners.
“Jeter is God.”
No, but he does have him on speed dial.
“No, but he does have him on speed dial.”
Nice.
GB, sometimes with your typos, I’m wondering if the twins are posting under your name……..
What a nice thank you to the fans from the Yankees……..I can’t ever get enough of that.
It’s early, of course, but too much was made of Joba’s good start the last time…..If he doesn’t pitch well tonight, I just don’t see how we can give him a start in the post-season. I would have my doubts as to his effectiveness out of the pen as well – the pen is not the panacea to his problems.
and Toronto takes the early lead
I don’t remember Joe G. doing it last year. Especially since they were closing the Stadium – that’s where the attention was focused.
“Jeter is God.”
nahs, but Mo is. God touched Mo’s arm which gave him the unhittable cutter.
“The tweeking and the re-adjustments to his approach and his swing has been excellent, almost slump proff……He’s going to be THE MAJOR story come Novemeber”
pat m-
sounds good to me.
he’s just had so many good at bats the past few months that i’m expecting it to continue.
he just looks very solid at the plate with men on base and has been having at bats where he just looks very confident.
I saw Joba up close last week in Anaheim, those road grey uni’s are revealing…….The boy needs to drop some lbs. and get his legs and core stronger
Joba is a disaster case. They need to fix him somehow in the off season.
rb–you might be right…
the red sox are losing again!!!
Gee, I forgot. This is the last home game of the season.
Randy I, He just looks very comfortable, realxed, just one of the guys this season……
Remember when Wakefield made the All Star Team?
Cano saved a hit.
Tunnel Man–thanks for the reminder
Betsy
September 30th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
GB, sometimes with your typos, I’m wondering if the twins are posting under your name……..
What a nice thank you to the fans from the Yankees……..I can’t ever get enough of that.
It’s early, of course, but too much was made of Joba’s good start the last time…..If he doesn’t pitch well tonight, I just don’t see how we can give him a start in the post-season. I would have my doubts as to his effectiveness out of the pen as well – the pen is not the panacea to his problems.
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The typos are only for affect. I don’t like showing up other blog people with my intelligence. I’m like Randy. I like to hide my brains. Of couse, sometimes, I forget where I hid it.
some of Jeters HR have been bombs
“Joba is a disaster case. They need to fix him somehow in the off season.”
Gee, he’s 23. Is he SUPPOSED to be dominant at the major league level by now?
GB–funny!
anybody know that the Indians fired wedge and their whole coaching staff?
I’d like to see if Chamberlain can wriggle out of this and really crank it up from there.
He looks pathetic!
Joba yuck I’m sleepy now
GB,
like that time when Joba dominated the Sox with 12 Ks?
The thought of Joba finishing the season with a mediocre start against KC, idling away in the bullpen for nearly two weeks, and then possibly starting a must-win game in Fenway Park or Angel Stadium scares me.
Joba: this is not the way to get yourself a spot in the postseason.
Snap poll:
Joba on the roster for the ALDS?
I say for what?
I have a feeling Joba will turn it around tonight, starting with that popup.
Butler is going to be a challenge. This young guy is a hitter.
Coulda been a Grand Slam there … Joba lucked out. Not a real good audition for a Playoffs 4th starter.
If this home plate ump doesn’t start calling close strikes it’s going to be a 4 hour game.
Joba looks mad.
…. or even in the pen.
“The typos are only for affect. I don’t like showing up other blog people with my intelligence. I’m like Randy. I like to hide my brains. Of couse, sometimes, I forget where I hid it.”
i could tell you where to check first, but i don’t ant to violate any blog rules on sam’s first day
Joba got the guy batting .071 to pop up? Congrats!
K-Rod having a ROUGH night…bases loaded and he’s already walked in a run…1 run cushion left
whatever happened to the days when batters used to be afraid Joba was going to put one in their ear? Gotta have that if you are a power pitcher. When was the last time he stood a batter up?
Newbie–sarcasm is not welcome here.
while it was bad that he loaded the bases, its a pretty good sign that he got out of it…it coulda snowballed
lol if K-Rod blows this
This is actually embarrassing. I love Joba Chamberlain as much as anyone and every start tell myself that last year’s Joba is going to come back. At this point he’s become a joke, he has no velocity on his fastball, no bite on his slider and no command. I actually don’t see much reason after this outing so far to put him on the postseason roster for the first round as the disaster that he is right now would only be even worse in the bullpen when velocity and command are at an increased premium.
Over the offseason this organization, regardless of what happens in the playoffs, needs to focus intensively on figuring out what went wrong with Joba this season. If he’s just fat and out of shape, then get him in shape. If his regiment between starts needs to change, then change it. And if there’s something wrong with his shoulder, then stop hiding it and get to the bottom of it. Somewhere within this guy is a guy who had the most phenominal stuff in all of baseball (not just as a reliever, but as a starter) and who since injuring his shoulder last year has been a SHELL of his former self. I would hate to sit by and watch the most talented pitcher this organization has brought up from its own ranks since Ron Guidry amount to anything less than what he should.
that’s what happens when you throw tug hulett strikes Joba…. go after these guys… let’s go
He’s short on stuff and command, but, he got out a damned fine hitter, there. All of Butler’s power was spent. Hulett just flat out wasted his at bat.
Rishi–K-rod has been lousy since switching teams. He used to be amazing…
BFARBS maybe Joba is auditioning for the bullpen by trying to show Girardi how he can pitch out of trouble.
Maybe Joba needs some Xanax.
He really jittery on the mound, and he’s huffing and puffing like he’s in the midst of an anxiety attack.
He got out of trouble because KC can’t score runs … not sure Joba should get too much credit there.
Thanks vin for the “manager” research
Could be Jeter on Sunday, that is, if Joe does it.
“Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Newbie–sarcasm is not welcome here.”
LOL. Don’t tell me what to do.
Walk off grand slam for the Nats lmao
Wow if the audio of Joe G talking is how the quality is going to be going forward big thumbs up. Did Pete use his iphone to record? Is Sam using a Nagra or something (just kidding) but whatever he is using would be nice to be the standard here on out.
randy l.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
“The typos are only for affect. I don’t like showing up other blog people with my intelligence. I’m like Randy. I like to hide my brains. Of couse, sometimes, I forget where I hid it.”
i could tell you where to check first, but i don’t ant to violate any blog rules on sam’s first day
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You’re just jealous of me because you’re older than God. You were a fan of the Bedrock Boulders.
HAHAHAH KROD!
wow ! the mets are a joke !
Butler’s ab- two decent sliders for strikes and a 95 mph fastball up and on the outside corner. i’d say he deserves some credit for that. he just needs to go after guys. he gets in trouble when he starts nibbling, always trying for the corner, always trying to strike guys out. go out there and throw the damn ball over the plate, work quick and go after the hitters. he’s gotta trust his stuff more, let it fly
and K-Rod gives up the walk-off GRAND SLAM to the Washington Nationals…what a mess
The mets.
does Melky have more HRs than Wright?
Grand Salamie for Maxwell… How long can Mets give the injury excuse? Krod isn’t hurt and he has blown a lot of games for the mets this season..
i think joba will be great next year
he has a golden arm but just needs to get in shape
he gets winded to easily
he needs a serious offseason cardio program with a little weightlifting for his legs
LOL GB……some people would say I’m sitting on my brains…….
Sorry, I don’t want Joba near the playoffs….I really think he’s hopeless for this year.
kay spare us the poetry plz
Carl Pavano comes back to earth
Very ugly Mets game. I seriously don’t know how Manuel is getting off scot-free here. Sure here have been devastating injuries, but his players are not fundamentally sound. And even the very few good ones are making mistakes. And don’t even start me on Minaya.
Big yankee fan here in Minnesota. I kid you not… there was an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune about Pavano declaring himself ready to pitch on 3 days rest. Unbelievable.
Rishi September 30th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Carl Pavano comes back to earth
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Did he hurt himself?
Joba needs pressure to focus ..Det ties it up
OMG–grand slam!?! poor k-rod!
Yes, he does Ellie. Not only that, but, Hinske has only 2 fewer homers than Wright.
newbie–why not?
Minaya is the real reason the Mets are in such a sad state right now. Not going to bother getting into details, i’m sure a lot already know some reasons, but the guy is a clown. all he does is consistently embarrass himself on multiple levels and why the Wilpons are so loyal to the guy is beyond me.
Does anybody know how if Pete posted the pregame ceremony yesterday, Jeter and Mo didn’t know? Just curious…
CK in LA September 30th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Rishi September 30th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Carl Pavano comes back to earth
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Did he hurt himself?
Hurting the Twins playoff hopes
Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Does anybody know how if Pete posted the pregame ceremony yesterday, Jeter and Mo didn’t know? Just curious…
MLB.COM, go to yesterdays game highlights
Wakefield looks terrible.
He’s got a pot belly and he’s limping off the mound.
He’s throwing BP, as well.
Wakefield gets pounded for 5 in 3 innings.
Pavano clutch for Twins – ha
Wakefield stinking up the joint vs Toronto
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Yes, he does Ellie. Not only that, but, Hinske has only 2 fewer homers than Wright.
Thanks GB
Mets report: K-Rod just totally melted down there in D.C. Two singles, two walks, then a 3-2 count to Justin Maxwell, who fouled off three pitches before hitting it out, just over Angel Pagan’s glove.
Still think it’s better to play a team going cold than one getting hot.
Maybe Pavano’s butt hurts again?
Miss ya Carl.
5-0 TOR. LOL
But BOS is “resting”
carl–i know what happened; i’m asking how jeter and mo didn’t know it was going to happen.
gb7 – considering how many older “prospects” are going to disappear in 2010, do you think that half of tampa will be in trenton?
Gary that’s pretty sickening to hear. But then again I’m happy some other team has to hear him saying that. He’s mediocre no matter where he is. I’d much rather have CC or AJ volunteering for three days rest than that stealing bum.
This coverage on YES TV is rather crappy tonight. They spend the whole first inning talking about playoff roster, and now it is the football game. What’s next, the election? I’m like, dude, let’s hear about the game some.
There is the Pavano we know and love
he had an era under 4 for most of the year & 3 great starts in a row after the asb where he looked like the best pitcher in baseball & was making in look effortless
you are not a bad pitcher if you can do that
he has not had many innins in the minors.
we forget this
it is also not like he gets bombed every time out either
“You’re just jealous of me because you’re older than God”
i’m just surprised that your family didn’t trade you in when obama was giving all that stimulus money for clunkers.
“Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
newbie–why not?”
Because you’re dumb.
Question… if you had only 2 choices to pick to pitch Game 4 of a playoff series..would you pick Joba or Pavano?
CK in LA
So your saying that facing the Tigers would be better because the Twins are hot right now ?
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
come
on
Jobber
Yes …. I know they have Verlander, but the Tigers have not been playing well lately. The Twins are playing well enough to make it a race.
Newbie–excuse me?
that football guy just called a baseball a basketball, man this guy is sharp
joba on the 1 step forward, 2 steps backward program.
drive 4-5—pavano.
are you freakin kidding me?
Valerie G.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
Valerie just think of the Film “Grumpy Old Men”
and as for sarcasm – it is pretty much the official language here.
BFARBS–what?
yanksince57-was last year 1959 or was it 1965?
September 30th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
gb7 – considering how many older “prospects” are going to disappear in 2010, do you think that half of tampa will be in trenton?
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Yeah, virtually all of the Tampa kids will be there as well as maybe a pitcher or two from Charleston.
So we got bad Joba tonight so far.
Man, this kid is a friggin’ enigma.
Dave Eiland on the phone with comissioner gordan.
“randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.”
valerie G.-
new to the blog?
Valerie G.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
drive 4-5—pavano.
Unfortunately, I’d have to agree. This is very discouraging.
Uncle Ellsworth–i see. but the sarcasm comment is weeks old.
Pavano stole 40 million from the Yankees. Joba has probably made the Yankees millions already alone. Joba has more talent in his pinky finger than Pavano does total. I think I’ll go with Joba in the playoff start.
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
You’re just jealous of me because you’re older than God. You were a fan of the Bedrock Boulders.
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I think the proper phraseology is “older than dirt” and “has more money than God.”
So, how is Joba going to talk about how well he pitched tonight? 3 innings giving up 2 runs to KC. Not so good ….
that bad hop…something like that could only happen to joba
This year Krod has given up 3 grandslams and walked in a run with the bases loaded 4 times (including a bases loaded walk to Mo in his third AB). Eeek!
joba gave up 2 runs. He could have easily given 6. Be happy.
Valerie, shut up. Stop addressing me.
Chamberlain deserved better that inning. Not sure if that ball hit the tip of the cutout at first, but, that was a tailor-made one hopper to Texeira.
Can all the “hot” vs “cold” nonsense stop please? It really is just nonsense when it comes to baseball.
Look at Boston. A week ago they were supposedly the best team in baseball and were going to dominate the playoffs on the way to a world series because apparently they had no weaknesses according to the “experts”
Now a week later they look pitiful and are backing into the playoffs with a ton of questions.
You are only as your starting pitching. Momentum or “hot” ends with one craptastic performance from your starting pitcher.
randy–what? i can’t want all yankee fans to get along? Is that so wrong?
Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
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It’s not insults. That’s love
Could be worse. He’s not efficient, but he’s not imploding. He’s held the damage to a minimum, considering. The game is still in hand.
Not a good outing. Certainly not what one hoped for coming off the last one. Lots of work to be done to fine-tune Joba, and time has really run out on this season. But, I still wouldn’t place bets on what the Yankees decide to do.
i think with joba his mechanics,stamina & concentration come & go
Looks like Joba is wearing his hat from either last season or the season before. I think maybe he should change it and realize that hat isn’t doing it for him and to get one from this season.
He is working really slow this outing, which isn’t helping him at all. He may not get through the next inning. I don’t care what Flash had said, I don’t think he should be on the roster for the first round.
bad hop grounder, shouldn’t have given up anything
sorry about using nonsense twice in the first line. did not mean to do that
Karen
September 30th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
You’re just jealous of me because you’re older than God. You were a fan of the Bedrock Boulders.
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I think the proper phraseology is “older than dirt” and “has more money than God.”
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Sorry, but, I said it how I meant it. Randy is OLD!!!!!!!
joba was visibly upset (presumably at himself) after that inning, banging his glove repeatedly on the dugout bench….how can anybody think hes happy with how hes pitching when he shows that type of emotion..i doubt hes happy very much
drive 4-5–i know. it’s sad. but joba just can’t be trusted in the postseason. i’m not saying pavano can, but…
Wakefield didn’t go very deep in this game. Is it his back still or was his pitch count high, or was it his ineffectiveness?
Valerie G.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Uncle Ellsworth–i see. but the sarcasm comment is weeks old.
only anbout 20 minutes – some here will remember posts from years ago – truly
S.A.–lol.
It’s hard to believe that Joba led the majors in K/9 last year. He seems to have no command anymore.
I’d rather play the tigers as the have 0 nothing left in the bulpen…. lose the starter and the games won.
S.A.–Serenity Now
September 30th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
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It’s not insults. That’s love
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Thanks, S. A. Now my conmputer looks like the twins after dinner. From both ends.
I would much rather face a hot Twins team than a cold Tigers team. We already went down the latter road and look how that turned out.
As for the Twins…well, they have such little talent that for them to play this well for so long probably means they’re due for a bad stretch.
Uncle Ellsworth–haha. I try to remember what people say but I always end up hitting the scroll up key lol
bru I think you’re right, and the freaky 3 inning start stint really sent him into a tailspin. It really screwed with some momentum he had going. I understand their reasoning for wanting to limit his innings. But I think there were better ways to address that. In any case I can’t wait until Joba has the training wheels completely off and he is a full fledged starter for an entire season. Only then will we truly know how good he can be as a starter.
Someone’s “sarcastic affection between regulars” meter needs a tune-up, lol
Newbie–truce?
The great John Smoltz just gave up a granny. He must be tippin pitches again.
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
S.A.–Serenity Now
September 30th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
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It’s not insults. That’s love
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Thanks, S. A. Now my conmputer looks like the twins after dinner. From both ends.
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As does my computer….Gotta keep these two kids from texting their friends. They’re not quite computer savvy, as I am yet.
This a better Yankee team and worse Tiger team than 2006.
so the #1 hitter got a hit and the #9 – that has a nice balance to it
The Red Sox are down 5-0 with Halladay pitching. Did anyone realize that the division lead is now up to 10 games in the loss column?
Halladay could toss a no-no vs. the Paw Sox tonight.
Joba really needed a good start to solidify his spot and he is coming up short. Personally would rather see chad in the 4th spot, when he starts we win, which is all that counts past game 162.
You mean you’re not giving them texting lessons already, GB7?
You should be a natural at it, with your unique typing style.
Valerie G,
Think Lemon & Mathau in “Grumpy Old Men”. And yes, they do fantasize about Anne Margaret here.
“Medical Hair Restoration September 30th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
The Red Sox are down 5-0 with Halladay pitching. Did anyone realize that the division lead is now up to 10 games in the loss column?”
I hope the Yankees can hold on and close this out.
m–thanks. i think.
GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
S.A.–Serenity Now
September 30th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Valerie G. September 30th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
randy and GB7–what’s with the insults? we’re all yankee fans here.
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It’s not insults. That’s love
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Thanks, S. A. Now my conmputer looks like the twins after dinner. From both ends.
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As does my computer….Gotta keep these two kids from texting their friends. They’re not quite computer savvy, as I am yet.
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Those twins!
They are not even walking, yet they are such trouble-makers!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 30th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
You mean you’re not giving them texting lessons already, GB7?
You should be a natural at it, with your unique typing style.
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Do you honestly think that the world is ready for two more that spell and type like me?
Damon looks lost right now – not awesome
“randy–what? i can’t want all yankee fans to get along? Is that so wrong?”
valerie g-
think of it as locker room humor which picks on the thing that least should be picked on.
joba is barely throwing the ball & he is holding his own not to mention a run shouldnt have scored
he is just in bad shape & has to grow up
if he can get tough mentally & get in shape he will be downright nasty
Johnny, 2-25. That gives me a reason to believe he will be scorching hot in OCT.
bru – agree
All between the ears
he is holding is own..not pitching terrible..but it does help that he is facing the Royals
Benny Blanco
I’m thinking the same thing about Damon.
randy l.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
“randy–what? i can’t want all yankee fans to get along? Is that so wrong?”
valerie g-
think of it as locker room humor which picks on the thing that least should be picked on.
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You should stop picking on me, then, Internet Bully.
bad pitching breeds bad luck….joba accomplishes both too often…
Just not Joba’s night. As usual happens when you don’t have your best stuff. But when was the last time Teixeira missed two plays in a game?
Reyes’ injury is new: torn hamstring
Believe it or not, Jose Reyes is now not only suffering from a torn hamstring tendon. The Mets say he suffered a torn hamstring muscle on Tuesday. Surgery has yet to be scheduled, a team spokesman said, but it appears highly likely.
Oh, and the Mets were swept by the Nationals with a 7-4 loss. Francisco Rodriguez allowed five runs, including a grand slam, in the ninth.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0SdgoCaNW
Um who are these doctors? I want names. I’ll never go to them. How could they miss this?
wow the mets are a disaster
gaudin is the better choice now
throw joba in the pen & give him time to reflect
tell him he has to earn a spot next year
i bet it works wonders
“Just not Joba’s night. As usual happens when you don’t have your best stuff. But when was the last time Teixeira missed two plays in a game?”
tex should of made that play but the one on the bad hop he had no chance barring an act of great luck
Valerie G.
You are confused. This is not a Yankee blog but the Clampett family reunion site.
I am going to stand that Joba is a reliever, not a starter. He has proven that already. When he was a reliever he was lights out and a given. Move him over to starter and he has struggled each and every time. He doesn’t have the makeup to be a starter. He has the talent, sure. But he just doesn’t have the mental fortitude to take on that pressure that a starter has on them, regardless of team. That pressure, is of course, multiplied by 100 as it is the Yankees and multiplied even more as the expectations of him being an ace were huge.
Damon needs to get it going – I can’t remember the last time he had a big hit.
Doreen
September 30th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Benny Blanco
I’m thinking the same thing about Damon.
*****
DUH!!!! I went on the record and predicted that August 1st
Ralphie D -
Yeah; but Tex has made so many of those hard-to-make plays, you almost never expect to see him NOT make it.
But, you are right.
BigSix
September 30th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Damon needs to get it going – I can’t remember the last time he had a big hit.
****
Saturday against the Red Sox was pretty darn big
Doreen
September 30th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Just not Joba’s night. As usual happens when you don’t have your best stuff. But when was the last time Teixeira missed two plays in a game?
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About 3 weeks ago. One error and two misdirected grounders. Hard to complain about his defense, though. He’s been outstanding with everything. Only real flaw is the strikeouts, but, even there, he strikes out less than Giambi did.
this start by joba puts him in the pen with cg the 4th starter
“You should stop picking on me, then, Internet Bully.”
valerie g-
don’t listen to him. he actually literally owns a blunderbuss.
it’s not possible to pick on someone who owns a blunderbuss.
at least not for long.
regular rest? check.
no innings limit? check.
now what are you gonna do? I’m going to continue to frustrate you.
Not concerned about that walk. He wasn’t going to even mess with Butler.
For those who were concerned- I am home from work now.
The last remaining person there other than me refused to let me stay there by myself and forced me to leave. Apparently its a safety issue……
Personally, I enjoyed last night when the lights when off on me a lot
Do you honestly think that the world is ready for two more that spell and type like me?
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LOL.
Why not? I say the more the merrier.
Then you can put it down to being a hip and cool, G-Grandpa.
Invitation to steal, first pitch PO. Joba’s done after this inning.
Joba is afraid. He needs to attack. He has nnt proven anything with this start. He should not even be on the post season roster.
ESPN said that if the Tigers face the Yankees advantage Tigers. Well I guess the Tigers are the favorites lol.
joba sucks.
GB7 -
Boy, you’ve got a memory like a steel trap. I’m always surprised on the few occasions I remember details.
Yuck.
And the Yankees aren’t doing much with the KC pitcher. Too bad.
Maaaaaarius
wrong
it is too early to tell
he pitched a few gems this year
give him most of next year
Joba better look em self in the mirror
is he going to finish 4 complete innings..
I absolutely HATE watching Joba pitch. It has nothing to do with him personally, but it’s actually torture. And it’s a shame because he used to be the brightest spot on the entire pitching staff.
I am going to shower. Lets see if my shower has any magic in it tonight
I can’t see anyway they allow Joba to start a game in the postseason. I really thought he’d be on the ALDS roster and be available out of the pen – but I think he has pitched himself off the roster. Maybe that would serve as a wake up call.
That was just a bad pitch to Pena. Not a good night at all. He’ll definately be in the pen for Sunday and the first round.
Another thing that has come out of this Joba situation has been a remarkable knack for wasting one of the five best pitchers on this team (Aceves) in low leverage, mop-up situations instead of situations where he can actually be useful.
This has been a pitiful season for Joba and you have to figure that could be the last time we see him until next year. If he can’t get through four innings against a Royals lineup that is truly one of the WORST I have seen in the major leagues over the last couple of years, how can anyone have any faith in him to throw in the postseason?
randy–no need to explain yourself to me. i’ll just watch you guys argue. no problem
lol
i think we are fine with cg as the 4th starter
3.2 innings.. 7 hits….3 runs…4 walks…tough line..
I really don’t know what use Joba is at this point. On one hand, he could go out and throw a great game like he did last start against Boston. But it appears more likely that we’ll see the erratic pitcher who can’t control his stuff. I really don’t know what they’re going to do with him.
jack from detroit
What do you think about the Tigers chances ?
The sun will come out
Tomorrow?
Oh Jobber.
Gosh, this just makes no sense to me. How he can come out one start and show why we’re all still paying attention to him, and the very next start, come out and make us wish he’d go away.
Oh well.
Will we see him pitch again this year?
Maybe…
I don’t see how he has earned a post season start.
I’m not sure he can be trusted out of the pen either as he hasn’t done it in over a year.
“I absolutely HATE watching Joba pitch. It has nothing to do with him personally, but it’s actually torture. And it’s a shame because he used to be the brightest spot on the entire pitching staff.”
I agree. I hate pitchers who refuse to throw strikes.have deep counts..He reminds of Ollie Perez
Jobber Fail!
He should be watching the ALDS on TV like the rest of us.
mets suck..
BRU – 100% agree. Joba should be demoted. Plus, look at this scenario.
we make it to ALCS and need a 4th starter. In the 3rd and 4th game our bullpen is abused. Can anyone really trust Joba to throw a strong 7? Maybe he does well in the first 5 but asking for 7 innings is not probably – not in the least bit.
That’s an intriguing idea from Flaherty. I mean what could it hurt?
well…joba’s regular season is essentially over…maybe he throws an inning of relief sunday maybe not…but 99.99% of it is over for him…
what do you take from it?
1. He stayed healthy the entire year.
2. He made every start (yes they go hand in hand).
3. He struggled a lot.
4. He had some good games.
Next year is gonna be a huge year for him. Not neccessarily make or break but huge..I throughly expect him to be better next year. I will give him the benefit of the doubt..
“You are confused. This is not a Yankee blog but the Clampett family reunion site.”
uncle ellsworth-
you’re a big help.
valerie g-
don’t pay any attention to him. ever since uncle e won the millionth post contest by stuffing the ballot box with posts, he’s been a little full of himself
Flaherty is making some sense. Though, I don’t know what one time out of the pen is going to show.
I think next year is next year, and Joba can work himself back. But for the playoffs? You want to win and you don’t want any real unhappy surprises. (Even though we all know “anything can happen” in the playoffs)
let’s see regular rest, no innings limit for an entire season. starting pitchers are creatures of habit even more so than positional players. screw up their routine and someone as young and inexperienced and temperamental as Joba might not be the same for the rest of the season. you sure can’t be surprised if he’s not as consistent. he needs a consistent schedule for the best opportunity to have consistent performances. It’s not like he couldn’t cope better. Obviously he and everyone else knows he has underperformed lately. But he hasn’t really been setup all that well to succeed fully, in my opinion.
Will people stop talking about Joba. The guy has a lot of work to do in the offseason to regain what was lost. We have Aceves and Gaudin so who cares !
joba comments remind me of burnett – talented but erratic
they shouldn’t boo joba. that hurts.
If Joba is on the postseason roster something is very wrong.
If they take 10 pitchers it should be CC, AJ, Andy, Rivera, Hughes, Coke, Aceves, Marte, Robertson and Gaudin as the long man. Joba simply does not deserve it.
And if they want him to be a starter he should start next season in AAA until he can grow up and learn how to pitch economically. Otherwise just put him where he belongs and where he ultimately will be – the bullpen!
Yes, we know Joba sucks as a starter but the stubborness of the Yankee organization to keep him a starter is bordering on lunacy now. The guy is a 1 inning fire-baller. He doesnt have enough to go deep into games. I firmly believe they are keeping Joba in there because they dont want to admit Francesa is right. Theyve got to realize what we are all seeing with our eyes but they are stubborn. Get Joba back into the pen before this guy costs us a WS.
So much for a tune-up outing before October Baseball……
Halladay is no-hitting the Red Sox.. lol
I don’t believe in that silly superstition that if you say it, the no-hitter goes away.
I’m enjoying watching it happen and we should talk about it.
randy–please notice how i didn’t respond to the last post.
Uncle Ellsworth–just kidding lol
I value everybody’s posts equally. As long as they don’t argue with each other…
Ralphie D -
Staying healthy and making all his starts is no small bag of potatoes, IMO.
what do you take from it?
1. He stayed healthy the entire year.
2. He made every start (yes they go hand in hand).
3. He struggled a lot.
4. He had some good games.
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The most important thing is that he stayed healthy.
I expected Jobber to struggle at times this season, doesn’t mean I enjoy watching him struggle. It frustrating to watch as a fan.
Hopefully a better 2010 for Jobber the starter
“Yes, we know Joba sucks as a starter but the stubborness of the Yankee organization to keep him a starter is bordering on lunacy now. The guy is a 1 inning fire-baller. He doesnt have enough to go deep into games. I firmly believe they are keeping Joba in there because they dont want to admit Francesa is right. Theyve got to realize what we are all seeing with our eyes but they are stubborn. Get Joba back in the pen before this guy costs us a WS.”
so were you saying this last year when joba was excellent in the rotation?…i think not
Just missed for the 2nd time tonight.
put joba in the pen
use him very little
he will feel unwanted & either go in 1 of 2 directions
one is a bad road & one is too refocus,get in shape & grow up
No jetstream tonight?
What is wrong with Joba?… Christ!
He’s got to get his head out of his… , damn frat-boy…
“Staying healthy and making all his starts is no small bag of potatoes, IMO.”
its ironic because after him doing well in the rotation last year but getting hurt, my concern for this year was him staying healthy…he did do that
Sometimes it seems like that short porch works against the yankees. I can’t count how many balls have died out in the air out there to date.
Joba kept trying all of his pitches
.. fastball.. curve.. changeup.. slider.. whatever..
It was like he either didn’t trust any one of his pitches, OR, he thought that he could get the batters out just by keeping them guessing about which one of his many pitches he would throw next.
Clearly, he didn’t really trust any of his pitches tonight. Or was he at odds with Jorge?
I’m not looking forward to his postgame interview when he says “I had my stuff tonight, I just couldn’t get them past the batters. They did a good job fouling them off until they got the one they could slap for a hit.”
Thank God the Yanks are only behind by 2 runs at this point.
Ken
Francessa is a moron. Joba was a good starter last year with a 98 mph fastball and crisp stuff. Since he got injured he did no offseason work which explains why he sucks. So wait a year and stop talking about him being in the bullpen.
Yeah, the Red Sox put out their AAA resttherealplayersforthepostseason roster out there, but still. No-hit after getting swept by us and on the verge of getting swept by the Blue Jays. Clinching last night only cause the Rangers lost. 8 game losing streak at that!!!
Joba would be a horror show in the pen right now, an absolute horror show. How anyone can think moving him to the pen would be a viable solution for his sucktitude is completely beyond me.
lol at Tejada pointing at the sky
Hmm..the Yankee’s A-TEAM is getting 2 hit by Tejada. Just a warm up for Verlander, eh?
Doreen
September 30th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Gosh, this just makes no sense to me. How he can come out one start and show why we’re all still paying attention to him, and the very next start, come out and make us wish he’d go away.
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His lack of conditioning could be a huge factor. He seems to be the one pitcher in the rotation that benefits from the long (8-10 days) layoffs between starts.
Everybody calm down about Joba. No name-calling. Pete’s gone one day and look at what happens. Ok, maybe that’s the way it was before
RalphieD Ive never been a fan of Joba as a starter. You saw what a beast this guy was as the set up man. A 1-2 punch like Joba and Mariano cannot be matched by any team in baseball. The guy is a 1 inning fire baller- no more. When he starts having to mix pitches like you do as a starter he becomes nothing special. Next year you annoint him as the set up man and put Hughes in the rotation.
way high, way too demonstrative of a punchout, why do i have a feeling that guy has it out for Hideki
The only time Joba has been consistent this year was the 3 games following the ASB. He’s been erratic all year. He had that 1 good start earlier in the year against Cleveland. Pitched a decent game against Kansas in April. Had that 12 K game against the Sox. and a good game against the Tigers too in April.
Not good when you can pick out only a hand full of good starts out of 31.
pat m-
nope that’s not what we’re looking for with joba
i think you’re right about the conditioning.
for a young guy, he just looks in very bad shape.
that shot of the moon was beautiful!
Jeremy September 30th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Ken
Francessa is a moron. Joba was a good starter last year with a 98 mph fastball and crisp stuff. Since he got injured he did no offseason work which explains why he sucks. So wait a year and stop talking about him being in the bullpen.
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Umm Jeremy – Joba never threw 98 as a starter. He throws low 90’s. That is part of the problem. He is not able to throw his dominant stuff over the course of multiple innings. Ken is 100% right. Joba is a 1-2 inning flame thrower and with a 98 mph fastball his slider is awesome. With t alow 90’s fastball, hitters can hold up on the slider, which Joba rarely throws for strikes.
Pay attention!
Pat M- Im concerned he drinks too much. There have been incidents with him and drinking before. His body shape resembles that of a beer drinker. The Yankees would be wise to have him meet with a nutrionalist this offseason.
Sam Borden shout out from Feinsand.
Ken
joba was a starter his whole life
he also has 4 pitches & has shown he can be a starter
he might be a better reliever.time will tell
most pitchers will be better in the pen
if joba wants too take the easy route he can become a good reliever
Ken, don’t be foolish. Joba was a starter his entire life, before August 2007. He made 30+ starts this year and won 9 games as a starter this year. He is 24 years old and went at least 6 innings 14 times, including a handful of starts where be exhibited dominance. He has 3+ pitches he can go to effectively. He is 24 years old and he is a starter. Period.
“RalphieD Ive never been a fan of Joba as a starter. You saw what a beast this guy was as the set up man. A 1-2 punch like Joba and Mariano cannot be matched by any team in baseball. The guy is a 1 inning fire baller- no more. When he starts having to mix pitches like you do as a starter he becomes nothing special. Next year you annoint him as the set up man and put Hughes in the rotation”
joba was excellent as a setup man, no doubt…but he was dominant as a starter last year…DOMINANT
2.76 era and he sat 94+ and touched 97 as a starter…lets not kid ourselves…he had great velocity and it stayed throughout the game…joba hasnt been that this year at all
YankeeKid
Tejada has shut down a lot of teams this season. I really don’t care about this game at all.
Feinsand just said the he and Sam were told that Joba is in.
“Joe said Joba’s been their 4th starter all year and that’s not going to change.”
Something like that.
Roll those postseason dice !
manny delcarmen is putrid
Im amazed so many fans want Joba to start. You are talking about the difference between a lights out 8th inning guy ( which is a lost art in baseball) and a mediocre starting pitcher. How is being in the pen the easy way out ? The team brass is just being stubborn and I blame most of it on Cashman.
Could he have been told to take it easy last winter? (Joba that is)
He seemed, when he first came up, to really buy into Clemens’ work ethic. It makes no sense that he would be out of shape.
Though, there were some other “distractions” over the winter.
Shake the etch-a-sketch. Start over.
Is Veritek behind the plate for the Yankees tonight?
Pavano fail
here we go again……..
Wang is not an ace!
The Idle is getting lit up again. Looks like the Twins are done.
What’s with the dead air on this broadcast?
I hate to say this but…yankees are going for pie tonight.
Jeremy Slim to none against Yankee line up. I do think they make the play offs. Again their bulpen is like the Yank’s in April.. or worse. The two young pitcher’s might last awhile but by at most, the third time around the line up, Yank’s will have their # Their closer has a 4.4 something era. albeit a 5 game series is a iffy test.
Evan D.
Did You pay attention to the Yankees at all last season ? When he was moved to the starting rotation from the bullpen Joba would throw 95 +. He shut down the Red Sox vs. Josh Beckett at Fenway. That was before he went down last season with an injury. So you pay attention !
Doreen shouldnt you have put Clemens work ethic in quotes. Are you implying Joba was on the juice when Clemens was here?
10-0 and the Red Sox still dont have a hit.
Does anyone remember Joba hitting 97 or 98 as a starter this year?
Because I don’t…
When he was a reliever, and even when he started last year ie against Boston, it seemed to me that he did hit high 90s…
So where did his velocity go?
I’m really leaning towards putting Joba in the bullpen for the rest of the season and playoffs, and letting Gaudin be the #4 starter.
The Indians beat us and almost went to the WS with Paul Byrd as their fourth starter. The Red Sox won the WS with Wakefield/Lester as their 4th starter (in a season where they both had 4.00+ ERAs). Gaudin has done a really nice job for us and his style of pitching fits perfectly to the Yankees’ strength. He has good enough stuff where he can air it out for 5 innings and then the Yankees can just turn it over to Aceves in the 5th/6th inning. I trust the combination of those two way more than I trust Joba.
So when Jobba walked off the mound how strong were the boos?
The much anticipated Jeter pie?
Evan D
joba has thrown 96 at the very minimum late in games & you do not know if he can be a starter
you cant predict the future
pay attention
“smile for the camera September 30th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
way high, way too demonstrative of a punchout, why do i have a feeling that guy has it out for Hideki”
Maybe he is racist.
I think I read a while back that Youuuuse said he wants to go back to Athletes Performance Institute this offseason to train. He needs to take Jobber with him
Agree with RS
I wonder…if he went back to the pen, would we see 98 or 99 on that fastball again?
If not, why not?
Ken,
If the 8th inning is so important, why are Lincecum, Grienke, CC, Carpenter and Halliday dominant 8TH INNINGZ GUYZ!!!11111
Pat M,
Remember a week or so ago, i said I thought Joba himself may have been consciously trying to keep himself from getting hurt?
You know, a lot of what is said “around” is that the only way Joba should go back to the bullpen is if he shows he is not healthy enough to start; if his shoulder becomes a problem. Could it be he didn’t want to push himself too much in order to prove he could stay healthy? But when faced with the prospect of perhaps losing a job altogether (trade to Toronto, no playoff spot), he did what he is capable of doing?
I do agree he’s not in good shape, but could there be a little more to this?
Or am I in serious need of a good mystery novel?
# DYNASTY IS DESTINY! September 30th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Does anyone remember Joba hitting 97 or 98 as a starter this year?
Because I don’t…
When he was a reliever, and even when he started last year ie against Boston, it seemed to me that he did hit high 90s…
So where did his velocity go?
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It could be:
1. bad mechanics
2. absence of PEDs
3. bad livin’
Umm Jeremy – Joba never threw 98 as a starter. He throws low 90’s. That is part of the problem. He is not able to throw his dominant stuff over the course of multiple innings. Ken is 100% right. Joba is a 1-2 inning flame thrower and with a 98 mph fastball his slider is awesome. With t alow 90’s fastball, hitters can hold up on the slider, which Joba rarely throws for strikes.
Pay attention!
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That is just not true. All you have to type in on google is Joba’s average fastball and you can easily find he averaged 95 as a starter last year. Not to mention if you watched the Yankees at all last year you would know that. You really should not insult people when you have no idea what you are talking about.
Dynasty, Michael Kay has said Joba has only thrown in the low 90s this year. Im also concerned about what happened to the missing 5 mph. My only explanation is he cant let it all “air out” like he could as a reliever. As a starter you need to conserve your energy and mix in pitches. As an eighth inning guy you throw it all to the wind.
Doreen
September 30th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Could he have been told to take it easy last winter? (Joba that is)
He seemed, when he first came up, to really buy into Clemens’ work ethic. It makes no sense that he would be out of shape.
Though, there were some other “distractions” over the winter.
Shake the etch-a-sketch. Start over.
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I would think that his diet may not be the best. He’s built much like his father and Joba’s son seems to be a bit on the chunky side. Along with diet, I don’t know what sort of post season routines he has, but, I get the feeling that involves a lot of sitting around. I’m hoping that guys like Burnett and especially, Brian Bruney talk with him about their conditioning. Bruney dropped over 30 pounds during the winter.
Doreen I wouldn’t say “it makes no sense that he would be out of shape”. He does have a history of being out of shape. It was one of the reasons why he dropped in the draft.
He had weight issues in college. I’ve said this before, his weight will be an issue the rest of his career.
jack from detroit
Just asking since your from the area. ESPN just said that the Tigers have the advantage. Not surprised !
bottom line anyone who knows baseball knows it’s WAY easier to find a fireballer bullpen guy than a PLUS starter with front of the line potential. Joba in the pen is reduced to a fastball/slider, 1 inning guy. That is not maximizing the guy’s potential considering he has 3 or perhaps 4 quality pitches when everything is working. He has proven he can maintain velocity in the later inning in the mid 90’s. He’s capable. He’s just inconsistent this season, especially after the innings limits kicked in. His stamina, routine, everything has taken a hit. But you don’t take a kid with his talent and plus pitches out of the rotation. He has like 220 innings career as a starter. 4.13 ERA, almost 8.5 k’s per inning… you don’t give up on those numbers on a starter that young. Joba is a starter, period, the Yankees know that, deal with it
Darnit, Gathright got a hit.
jeter pie!!!
Swish!!!
SPLAT!
SWISH!!!!!
“Jeremy September 30th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
YankeeKid
Tejada has shut down a lot of teams this season. I really don’t care about this game at all.”
I think he is effectively bad. Pitches that should break are sometimes straight, poor location but with the lack of movement it is fooling batters.
Its a flat game for the Yankees too. I can’t believe that this team feels all warm and fuzzy toward Joba and his Janus type pitching.
Wow. HR. I eat my words.
SWISHEAR!!!
Swisher!!
Let’s get Aceves win #11
Swish is THE MAN!
That was a big booming shot for Swish… nothing but net.
Valerie G.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
that shot of the moon was beautiful!
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Yes, it was, though, there are some moon shots that just needs to stay unseen.
so if it is yanks vs. tigers…
I know Verlander. But is Edwin Jackson really that good? How has he looked against the yanks?
Ken,
What you don’t understand is that if Joba was “airing it out” in the bullpen this year he would be throwing 94 tops. That also wouldn’t solve the problem of his shitty command and lack of a slider.
Do me a favor, I want you to go gameday for a couple of Joba’s midseason starts last year (particularly his one against Pittsburgh in mid June) and look at the velocity readings over the course of his 6 2/3 dominant innings. He was SITTING 97-98, touching 99 more than once or twice.
This has nothing to do with “being able to air it out.” That explanation is perhaps the most overused cliche I’ve heard of in baseball just because there isn’t as much to it as people think.
SAFE!
I love Swish
Betsy: Would you please stop stinking on Joba. We ALL know you are biased as far as Phil is concerned. Well, I am the same when it comes to Joba.
Very few young pitchers are perfect and Phil won’t certainly be that next year. Careful how you speak as you may have to eat your words next year.
This is Joba’s first bad year and has not been sent back to the minors like certain other young pitcher. Dang, Betsy!
Nice HR by Swish. This team does not give up even in games they don’t “have” to win.
GB7 & Trevor -
Good points, both of you. It is possible to carry some extra weight and be in shape, though, isn’t it?
Oh, well. Bottom line is, yeah, he needs to work it out.
Derek is THE MAN! lol
“10-0 and the Red Sox still dont have a hit.”
Nice way to go into the postseason. What is this, their 6th loss in a row?
KUDOS TO BRIAN CASHMAN, PER USUAL! Nick Swisher was one heck of a pickup. And kudos to Joe Girardi for getting him into games. One thing you can say for Girardi is that he found a way to get all of the players into games. And it doesn’t look like it hurt the Yankees.
swisha houuuuuuse
Edwin Jackson has not been that good of late. He has given up at least 5 or 6 runs in each of his starts.
Uncle E-
Do I get credit again for showering?
Ken, an 8th inning guy is a “lost art?” since when? Set up men didn’t exist 30 years ago, that’s how important they are. Now they are hardly a scarce commodity. The 8th inning should be a revolving door for streaky pitchers on a hot streak who don’t have the talent to start. How many 8th inning guys can you name from the last ten pennant winners?
Joba has the talent to start, which he’s more than shown at the major league level. Sticking him in the 8th would be a waste of his talent. Period.
You simply do t know what you’re talking about. Stop posting.
twins r done
Sam,
The updates are looking good. Not bad for a rookie.
Ken
no managers or gms put pitchers with jobas ability in the pen unless & until they display over time that starting is not working for them
the list is very long
it just does not happen for an overated 8th inning pitcher that always gets filled
someone always comes along for that spot
ace
joba
hughes,etc but let them be good starters
different ballgame for a reason
guy behind the plate is brutal…
Hard to believe that by early next season, Derek Jeter will pass Don Mattingly and Bobby Murcer in Career RBI. Not at all bad for a singles and doubles, leadoff type hitter.
On Joba, I’d like to quote the great Roger Sterling from Mad Men when asked at a gambling hall “Winners or Losers Gentleman?”
Response “Losers tonight, winners generally”.
Despite his maddening inconsistency, Joba was a serviceable league average starter on balance over the course of the season, and nearly 160 innings. He answered the bell for every start. He struck out nearly 7.6/9 IP.
And he did this all as a 23 year old, who started the season with about 200 professional innings to his credit. And did it in a division with some pretty tough line-ups.
It is highly likely that the kid will be at least decent to above-average big league starter- a winner. To banish him to the dustbin (or bullpen) demonstartes a serious misunderstanding of this game and the $ value of even average starting pitching.
The “other cool sites” section of the blog still lists Pete’s faves. I hope Sam will add to it.
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
The trouble with all the Joba jawing is that too many fans have no idea what its like to develop a young starting pitcher. The Yankees have been buying their arms for so long, many have either forgotten or never seen the struggles that happen with the young guns.
Joba wasn’t in good shape to start the season. Being young he might have figured that resting during the off season would be OK because the long season would get him in shape.
I expect that the Yankees will be monitoring him a bit more in the off season and have him working out. Remember Bruney a few years ago was really a doughboy, when he dropped the weight and got in shape he was more effective. (This year he might just be struggling due to trying to get back to pre-injury form).
YankeeKid
September 30th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Hmm..the Yankee’s A-TEAM is getting 2 hit by Tejada. Just a warm up for Verlander, eh?
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Another genius who doesn’t realize that games are 9 innings long.
The Yankees have won games against Edwin Jackson.
I 2nd Charlie’s last post
Doreen
September 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Nice HR by Swish. This team does not give up even in games they don’t “have” to win.
GB7 & Trevor -
Good points, both of you. It is possible to carry some extra weight and be in shape, though, isn’t it?
Oh, well. Bottom line is, yeah, he needs to work it out.
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It’s definately possible, but, it all depends on how and where it’s distributed. David Wells was a big guy. He was also about 6 feet 4 inches, but, he kept his legs and arm in shape.
Jeremy… Watch tonite when the bulpen comes in. You’ll see what I mean.
Phil, shave the stache!!…….no jessica albalaejeo
GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Hard to believe that by early next season, Derek Jeter will pass Don Mattingly and Bobby Murcer in Career RBI. Not at all bad for a singles and doubles, leadoff type hitter.
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Assuming Jeter gets ~200 hits next year look at the guys he will be passing.
30. Frank Robinson+ 2943 R
31. Barry Bonds 2935 L
32. Willie Keeler+ 2932 L
33. Jake Beckley+ 2930 L
Rogers Hornsby+ 2930 R
35. Al Simmons+ 2927 R
36. Zack Wheat+ 2884 L
37. Frankie Frisch+ 2880 B
38. Mel Ott+ 2876 L
39. Babe Ruth+ 2873 L
40. Harold Baines 2866 L
41. Jesse Burkett+ 2850 L
42. Brooks Robinson+ 2848 R
43. Charlie Gehringer+ 2839 L
44. George Sisler+ 2812 L
45. Andre Dawson 2774 R
46. Ken Griffey (39) 2760 L
47. Vada Pinson 2757 L
48. Luke Appling+ 2749 R
I like Aceves. I want another walk off win. I would laugh if that happened.
Yeah I mean don’t blame the beer. Wells probably had 10 times the appetite for beer than Joba does. The guy was admittedly hungover the day he pitched his perfect game. He got it done. Time after time.
Aceves is our #4 starter in the playoffs. Please.
Give up on Joba so soon? Um, can I give you one name why not?
Greinke.
I can’t believe they’re taking Aceves out.
Although at the rate Minn. going tonite, might not see Det’s. Achilles heel
Grateful to see several posters defending Joba. The young man has definite talent. Here is a post that I copied from this very post last year. Sorry I don’t remember the poster but it is very thoughtful.
Effective relievers can be signed and developed. Potential aces come out of farm systems once every five years, or more.
jack from detroit
Yeah the Tigers have a lot of Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez’s in their bullpen, lol. What do you think about Verlander ? because he is the only scary part of that team.
I think he won’t have much in the tank in October with the big workload down the stretch and for the year.
Is it me or has this game been a little slow (announcer-wise)?
Brayan Pena’s been impressive against the Yankees this year.
Okajima, marsden (sp?), Shields off the top of my head.
They were probably failed starters.
Erica – always OPPC
September 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Uncle E-
Do I get credit again for showering?
YES! you are going to have to move your TV into your bathroom for the Playoffs!
Jim the VT Yankeefan
September 30th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Hard to believe that by early next season, Derek Jeter will pass Don Mattingly and Bobby Murcer in Career RBI. Not at all bad for a singles and doubles, leadoff type hitter.
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Assuming Jeter gets ~200 hits next year look at the guys he will be passing.
30. Frank Robinson+ 2943 R
31. Barry Bonds 2935 L
32. Willie Keeler+ 2932 L
33. Jake Beckley+ 2930 L
Rogers Hornsby+ 2930 R
35. Al Simmons+ 2927 R
36. Zack Wheat+ 2884 L
37. Frankie Frisch+ 2880 B
38. Mel Ott+ 2876 L
39. Babe Ruth+ 2873 L
40. Harold Baines 2866 L
41. Jesse Burkett+ 2850 L
42. Brooks Robinson+ 2848 R
43. Charlie Gehringer+ 2839 L
44. George Sisler+ 2812 L
45. Andre Dawson 2774 R
46. Ken Griffey (39) 2760 L
47. Vada Pinson 2757 L
48. Luke Appling+ 2749 R
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Anyone that can pass 14 HOFers in hits in one year, belongs. Hopefully, that’ll be 15 when they add Andre Dawson. I’d love to see Jeter have that one super-season in all departments, next year. The one season that sets that season apart from all others.
The Yankees would be foolish to trust Joba in a game 4 start, but then again…….Gaudin? I like Gaudin, I like him especially out of the pen……but do I trust him against playoff teams in a big spot? I don’t think so. I still would go with Gaudin, though in the hopes he can get through 4 or maybe 5 innings. I don’t think that’s possible with Joba at this time – he couldn’t even pitch effectively against the Royals.
it’s sad jeter probably won’t get to 20 hr.
Marte warming up for the third time tonight. That’s gotta be a little rough on the arm.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Erica – always OPPC
September 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Uncle E-
Do I get credit again for showering?
YES! you are going to have to move your TV into your bathroom for the Playoffs!
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Not sure that Erica should get credit for showering, but, I’m sure that her family, friends, neighbors and co-workers will certainly be happy and relieved by her decision, though.
What’s the time of possession for each team? The Yankees have had too many 5 minute innings.
I wouldn’t count Jeter out of 20 homers quite yet. He hits homers in Tampa, as do Rodriguez and Cano.
Jeter, I’ve not much to say to you except that the Yankees are in the business of trying to win a WS and right now Joba is not contributing very much to that effort. If you have some great faith that Joba will get it done, for whatever reason, though this whole year has been a struggle, good for you. I am not giving up on this kid at all, but for this year, IMO – I don’t see where it’s coming from. I would love to see him turn it around…..but now is not the time for experiments.
I hope Jeter gets a little selfish in his pursuit of 20 homers. His average his high enough to take a hit, he needs to try to park a couple in that short porch in right. He has bunted enough and moved the runner over enough this year to be a little selfish and try to get 20 so they can get the record. But knowing Jeter, in the last game of the year he’ll probably bunt a guy over or try for a line drive single to right instead of trying for the homer.
I love this ump, hes the best. First time I got to watch him was when CC was pitching against the Dodgers last year. Hes great. CC actually hit a homer that game.
it’s the Yankees decision on who to start in game 4 of an ALCS and World Series. If it was my decision, based on what I know right now, the starter would be Gaudin because Joba just looks lost on the mound sometimes. He’s alternated good and bad starts the last 4 times out, good against the Angels and Sox, awful against the Mariners, and painfully mediocre tonight.
At the same time, the Yankees probably don’t need Joba at the top of his game to win #27 this year (not that they have any control over it). He’ll still be 24 next year, let him get in better shape over the winter and maybe we’ll see the Joba we really expected next season.
I don’t understand, though, the need to demean Joba at the benefit of Hughes. They are pretty good friends from what I’ve read (Hughes calls Joba ‘Justin Chamberlain’ in a playful way) and together can help form a dominant home-grown starting rotation for many years (or they won’t, you never know with young pitchers). Developing quality young starters with a contending or championship team is not easy nor is it an exact science, every young pitcher goes through ups and downs and patience is the only thing that really works.
what’s this about jeter’s injury seats?
I’d have to agree with Flahrety on the point of pitching Joba in the pen before the seasons over. I’d like to see if he’s even able to do that and be effective again. I don’t want to see what we’re seeing now or seen most of the season coming out of the pen late in a game.
gaudin has to be the 5th starter
girrardi is taking a big risk if he picks joba
David Wells had a rubber arm, great mechanics, and strong legs….What was his downfall was not keeping his core muscles strong, which caused his back problems, that in turn sent him into retirement……..Had David stayed in decent shape he’d be pitching today…….
in the postseason*
MG, I agree about not pitting Joba v. Hughes. As for myself, I hope I haven’t done that – if I have, I shouldn’t have. It’s true – they are very good friends – and yes, I look forward to them anchoring the rotation for years. You’re so right about developing young pitching – my word, it can be torture, but the rewards will be worth it. With the Yankees, though, it’s harder because there is an imperative to win that does not go hand and hand with developing young players (especially pitchers). I think Joba is almost a lost cause this year because his issues are such that he will need the off-season to work through them. I’m sure that eventually he’s going to be an outstanding pitcher.
I’m signing off for now, folks–be back tomorrow.
Go NYY (and Derek/Swish) lol
What is Setio Mitre doing in this must-win game?!?!?!?
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Erica – always OPPC
September 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Uncle E-
Do I get credit again for showering?
YES! you are going to have to move your TV into your bathroom for the Playoffs!
*****
During the playoffs I am going to be the cleanest person in New York!!!
Nobody’s giving up on Joba. October’s just not the place to figure things out.
His defense let him down a little, but his WHIP was a tad high at 3.44 today.
damn it’s Mitre
the Yankees color guys are really good at analyzing the game. Some of you think Flash is monotone and boring but he really knows his stuff, I don’t need Madden-like ‘boom’ stuff to keep my interest and the information he gives us is priceless.
I wonder how Mitre is doing on the sub 6.00 ERA watch….
Nick…..
Nick????
bye Valerie- Go Yanks and Matsui
Swish fail
WHO DIDN’T SEE THAT COMING!?!?
Is Swisher alright?
And there goes the win
Thanks Joe… the players worked hard to tie this game and you give it away by pitching Marte/Mitre…
Jeremy………Can’t avoid him, but he’s not untouchable, considering the Yankee line up. He gives Leyland long innings but lately, as Leyland dreads to go to the BP, he’s been working overtime. How that effects him remains to be seen. He throws that 99/100 mph as effortlessly as any I have ever seen, That’s why he can do the long haul.. and he’ll lock you up with a curve out of nowhere.
Man… Swishhhhhh
Btw- when I was listening to the game on the radio Sterling kept talking about a big party the Yankees had at NYY Steak. However, I missed the party when he said what the party was for.
Does anyone know?
Funny – I guess the ball DOESN’T have to just “beat the runner to the bag.”
SWISHer is such a horrendous fielder
I have a DVR conflict and cannot watch the game until 10.
What did I miss???
Omigod that was an awful play by Swish.
Swisher giveth
Swisher taketh
So has Gaudin unseated Joba yet?
Atleast Gaudin can give us 4 or 5 decent innings before he falls apart. Joba might not even be able to do that.
for anybody hating on swish…he has been much improved from early in the year…MUCH improved
A-Rod- that doesn’t count as a tag, you have to touch the guy. Damn shoulda been an out
all I’m saying is that in the playoffs this team’s outfield play is going to cost them
Glad that’s over.
Erica, during the pre-game it was mentioned that the Steinbrenner’s, Hal and his sister, where having a party for the team at NYY Steak..
Betancort FAIL
The Joba and Swisher song
Isn’t it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here on the mound,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.
Tom in N.J.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Erica, during the pre-game it was mentioned that the Steinbrenner’s, Hal and his sister, where having a party for the team at NYY Steak..
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Was it in honor of the playoffs? Or a continuation of the Mariano and Jeter worshipping?
Kay has been talking all year about how Swisher’s and Damon’s defense could cost us a key game in October.
joeman September 30th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
all I’m saying is that in the playoffs this team’s outfield play is going to cost them
You tell em Michael Kay
Leave Johnny out of this!
we just had one of those too, Erica.
Criminal Minds vs some random thing on History Channel, lol.
I sacrificed Criminal Minds.
Actually, I think most RFers would have taken it off the wall and kept it to a double. Swisher tried to be aggressive and catch it. It was a hell of a shot off the bat.
The Sox have now strategically lost six in a row and 8 of 10.
Nice job, guy. Way to rope-a-dope.
that missed suicide could cost the royals in the end
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
David Wells had a rubber arm, great mechanics, and strong legs….What was his downfall was not keeping his core muscles strong, which caused his back problems, that in turn sent him into retirement……..Had David stayed in decent shape he’d be pitching today…….
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Absolutely right, PaT. He could be doing what Moyer is doing. I was always a little surprised that he didn’t pick up a knuckleball. He was that sort of flakey type that would try and end up being successful at it. I think it was his “I don’t give a damned” attitude that made him the pitcher that he was, but, also led him to ignore his conditioning. He was married to an absolute beauty, though.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
September 30th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
we just had one of those too, Erica.
Criminal Minds vs some random thing on History Channel, lol.
I sacrificed Criminal Minds.
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Haha. Mine was Glee vs. Law and Order SVU
I sacrified the Yanks for an hour
Not an apples/oranges situation, but in 2007, Jon Lester only pitched in 63 innings, had a 4.57 ERA…and won Game 4 of the World Series.
I believe they’ll give Joba the Game 4 start. He’s been the #4 starter all year, and despite his struggles, he hasn’t been a complete disaster as a starter. He pitched mediocre tonight but his solid performance against the Red Sox should be enough to get him the chance.
Girardi/Eiland will and should keep a short leash on him, and Chad Gaudin is a lock for the ALCS roster to serve as Joba’s understudy in case he falls apart early against the Angels or Sox.
Why are people so worried about a meaningless game?
The only thing significant about tonight’s performance was Joba’s performance. Just like AJ the night before.
The fact that Sergio Mitre came in should show you how meaningful they think this game is.
don’t need Kay to tell me that…all you have to do is watch,they may have one of the worst OF D in the mayors
I wonder how Mitre is doing on the sub 6.00 ERA watch….
Nick…..
Nick????
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I’ll answer for Nick as we both were intensely following this matter.
Sergio’s sub 6.00 ERA watch is on hold indefinitely.
Maybe next season.
I wish people would stop throwing the word meaningless around so cavalierly when my season wins record is at stake!
*Nicks shouting face goes here*
I DON’T HAVE AN iPOD WITH ME RIGHT NOW BUT I LIKE THIS SONG: Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.
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LOL
Bronx Jeers
September 30th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I’ll answer for Nick as we both were intensely following this matter.
Sergio’s sub 6.00 ERA watch is on hold indefinitely.
Maybe next season.
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That is sad for Mitre. However it is important to not lose sight of the dream
What did Kay say about Swisher’s play on that ball?
Great job tonight by Cano. Showing some patience and getting on base via BB.
Guzman sucks
Ugh things are getting UGH ly. It has the mark of one of those games.
Guzman hasn’t impressed me. Maybe because on every close-up he reminds me of Enrique Wilson.
ALL ABOARD THE FAIL TRAIN!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
AY! AY! AY!
Roy Halladay complete game shutout. Just nasty.
that was a great throw by Buck, he put it in the only spot that could get Guzman.
Betsy: Whenever Joba has a sub-par game you come out with the “I don’t want Joba to pitch in _____________ as if it was your decision. When Phil is on you are all peaches and cream.
Like I said earlier in the season I can recognize the symptoms because last year I was the same way in favor of Joba. I have come to appreciate Phil’s talent this year in the BP and if you are a true baseball fan, you will eventually appreciate Joba’s talent.
And as I have said before:
a. Joba deserves as many opportunties to develop as Phil was given.
b. Phil has been in the system longer and has many more IP.
c. We should not pit one pitcher against one another because it will be great to have TWO top of the rotation pitchers in the future who are home grown.
I thought Guzman was supposed to be as fast as Gardner
That’s one guy that I was hoping NYY would get when they were looking for a backup catcher. Buck is a good defender, good arm and hits for decent power.
Karen
September 30th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Ugh things are getting UGH ly. It has the mark of one of those games.
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I know. We’re down by one whole run. And this team never can seem to come back in the late innings.
Just not our night
Oh well… can’t win em all. Got to come out strong tomorrow.
It’s the last game of the regular season, of course it’s gonna come down to a comeback in the last innings.
JeterJoba,
It is pretty funny how some people try and pin Joba and Hughes against eachother like it is some competition and come out with the “I told you so” when one is struggling.
This is even worse than Jeter/A-Rod a few years back. Rather than support both, people feel the need to pick sides.
I played golf back in 02 with Donnie Hill ( Pro golfer now )….Donnie really thought David Wells could have been a 300 game winner and HOF’er……..He just knew how to pitch with near perfect control with all his pitchers….Remember when he was young ( Detroit era ) he chucked in the mid 90’s…….As for the knuckleball, I’m certain he probably could, not sure if the 3/4 arm slot would give it the needed butterfly effect……I always liked David in Pinstripes, however in my mind, he was a major reason the Bombers lost the 03 World Series
A walkoff off Soria would be impressive
And another thing. Just because a person says they think Molina should catch AJ or that Joba has no business pitching in the postseason, doesn’t make them ignorant, an idiot, or any less of a fan than others.
Whine!!! Sniffle!! Whine (again”. Why are they wasting Hughes in a useless losing game? Girardi is going to burn him out before the playoffs.
Lucky Pete, getting to cover the BoSox as they back into the postseason… beeeep beeeep beeeep
hehehehe
“It is pretty funny how some people try and pin Joba and Hughes against eachother like it is some competition and come out with the “I told you so” when one is struggling.
This is even worse than Jeter/A-Rod a few years back. Rather than support both, people feel the need to pick sides.”
you nailed it on the head
I don’t know why they are saying it’s a lock Guzman is on the postseason roster. There’s really no reason for him to make it at all. It’d be a waste of a spot for an extra pitcher or someone else. Gardner and Hairston coming off the bench are enough speedy guys. You don’t need another extra pinch runner, which is all Guzman can do (don’t really know about his defense)
Where is this lighting speed Guzman supposedly has? Gardner’s faster them him. And I would hate to see Pena not make the playoff roster because of Guzman who’s suppose to be ultra fast.
“At least Gaudin can give us 4 or 5 decent innings before he falls apart. Joba might not even be able to do that.”
Good point. Joba, if Girardi starts him, will be on a very short leash.
Erica
I’m watching Glee – pretty good (on Hulu)
GB – careful mixing your Whines and Sniffles, with your typos you’ll have Swine Flu
Nice Job Phil
Hughes makes it look so easy
Man, Phil was nasty…….that cutter that he broke the hitter’s bat on, lol – that was Mo like (at least in the way that the bat shattered). Glad to see Flaherty is still for Phil in the rotation, figuring that his confidence will have shot up with his stint in the pen.
That was a pretty good job by Phil Franchise. Yes, he only threw 11 of 13 pitches for strikes, but luckily he has a couple of more games to work out his issues before the post season.
smile for the camera September 30th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Hughes makes it look so easy”
He doesn’t make that “stache” look “easy”
What kind of wager did he lose with Bruney this time?
And for those who have stated that Joba couldn’t pitch well again a team like KC. That goes both ways — The A team has not scored enough runs against to put KC away. Guess it will have to be another walkoff win.
And that is the last I will post on the topic. Enough.
The Yoooouuuuuuse chant will be fun in October/Nov
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I played golf back in 02 with Donnie Hill ( Pro golfer now )….Donnie really thought David Wells could have been a 300 game winner and HOF’er……..He just knew how to pitch with near perfect control with all his pitchers….Remember when he was young ( Detroit era ) he chucked in the mid 90’s…….As for the knuckleball, I’m certain he probably could, not sure if the 3/4 arm slot would give it the needed butterfly effect……I always liked David in Pinstripes, however in my mind, he was a major reason the Bombers lost the 03 World Series
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Donnie Hill? The little Oakland a’s middle infielder from the mid to late 80s? Hadn’t heard of him in years. always thought he was going to become a Phil Linz/Randy Velarde type of player. still a solid little player. Came out of one of the SW schools….Arizona or Texas, I think.
“That was a pretty good job by Phil Franchise. Yes, he only threw 11 of 13 pitches for strikes, but luckily he has a couple of more games to work out his issues before the post season.”
lol..why didnt he strike out the side on 3 pitches (combined)?
Awww that’s nice for Hairston Jr. He’s all excited about the postseason.
I think Girardi will give Guzman a few more chances to see if he can steal. He is quick, but doesn’t quite have it.
Having speed off the bench can help in a tight game. It isn’t going to help if he can’t steal though.
JeterJobaCano Fan, It’s been my contention from the beginning, that Young Master Hughes will have the better career, and will be the better pitcher …….There’s a few of us here ( Betsy ) who have never waivered from this belief, even when his stocked plummented and his Bus ticket waited him at The Port of Authority Bus Terminal…..
Jeter, you’re still missing the point…..and I never said that Joba doesn’t deserve the chance to develop. If you want him developing in the post-season, ok…….I don’t.
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
September 30th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
GB – careful mixing your Whines and Sniffles, with your typos you’ll have Swine Flu
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LMAO. As long as I can get shots for iy, I’m ok. I’d hate to have to type that and have them think I said I wanted to be shot for it.
Also, he must have lost a bet – there’s no way Phil can actually think he looks good with that growth on his upper lip
A-Rod vs Soria can’t wait
BJK
September 30th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
That was a pretty good job by Phil Franchise. Yes, he only threw 11 of 13 pitches for strikes, but luckily he has a couple of more games to work out his issues before the post season.
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The only issues that Hughes has are with “fans” that think he has pitching issues.
OH, NO!!!! Now Girardi’s trying to kill Rivera.
This whole game is full of head scratchers.
“A-Rod vs Soria can’t wait”
are they meeting under the O’Neill banner after the game?
lol @ the way the Braves just lost the game
Whoever thinks this is not a must-win game doesn’t know what they are talking about. This game is absolutely a must win game, since it would give them 58 wins at the New Stadium in the inaugural season, taking the record completely away from the 1912 Boston team. Anything that would take a record away from Boston is a great thing. Thus, must win game.
Joba is overrated the kid was a nut case at Neb & still is, he just dosen’t relax on the mound
DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive) September 30th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
“A-Rod vs Soria can’t wait”
are they meeting under the O’Neill banner after the game?
Ahhh they took him out
I’ll bet ya a fin that Soria won’t get A-Rod out.
After that whole schpeel Tiger’s bulpen shines. oops!
A sudden flashback Arizona, circa 2001.
GB, I think he’s an Alum of Arizona……..Good ballplayer, I met up with him after his Angel days….Good Guy….
I am SO sick of the Kay “do they have another rally in their bones” line.
is that Pena and Miranda or Cano and Tex??? nice play there
No one cares about this game because it’s not important. They just want to get the pitchers some work before the postseason starts.
I bet Joba can spell “doesn’t” though.
“Jeter, you’re still missing the point…..and I never said that Joba doesn’t deserve the chance to develop. If you want him developing in the post-season, ok…….I don’t.”
Except he’s not pitching in the postseason to “develop”. He’s pitching in the postseason because he’s the #4 starter for the Yankees and has been for the entire year. He’s erratic but his last start against the Sox shows he can and will show up if his back is up against the wall.
The Chad Gaudin should start Game 4 talk is getting ridiculous. The guy has a fastball that tops out at 90 mph and sits in the high 80s. He’s had a nice few games in September and he’ll be a serviceable long man in the postseason, but a guy who was claimed off waivers with a 88-90 MPH fastball in the first inning against the Angels or Red Sox is complete lunacy.
Please don’t forget, there’s a reason why Joba Chamberlain is in the position he’s in at such a young age and why Chad Gaudin is a journeyman who might not be on the team at this time next year.
Pena and Miranda doing their best Robbie and Tex impersonation!
Betsy, It might be that Phil’s going for the more mature and intimadting look for the Postseason……..a joke
Look out for Hughes as a starter next year. He will be a stud.
Time to get the pie ready
Hinske, badabinske. gets a outske.
GreenBeret7
September 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
The only issues that Hughes has are with “fans” that think he has pitching issues.
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If you took that post seriously, you obviously haven’t been paying attention to my posts.
Next time I’ll have to use more exclamation points to enhance the sarcasm.
“It might be that Phil’s going for the more mature and intimadting look for the Postseason”
It’s not working.
This whole Joba thing is pretty simple. He lost 3 mph on his fastball. Whether it is his shoulder or he was just a fat toad this offseason none of us know.
If he gets that 3 mph back he has great chance to become the front of the line starter we all dreamed he would become. At worst he goes back to the bullpen with that 3 mph back and is a great reliever.
If he does not get the 3 mph he will never be better than an average starter and he will never be better than an average reliever.
Either way this year he is what he is. Average. Putting him in the bullpen will not make a difference and starting him will be a crapshoot. If he goes back to the bullpen for the playoffs he will probably throw 94-95 with very little movement and that simply will not get it done.
This is not a case of a young pitcher being inconsistent or taking the bumps in the road. He simply can not live in the low 90s. You hope next year the 3mph reappears and if it does not, well he is just another prospect who did not live up to the hype.
“The guy has a fastball that tops out at 90 mph and sits in the high 80s.”
Sounds like a guy named Mussina last season. Didn’t he win 20 games?
Yeah, I know Gaudin is no Mussina, but velocity isn’t everything. Location and being able to mix your pitches effectively is more important.
Matsui has been a little flat the last few games….though not as flat as his wife.
A 3-2 change from Soria – that isn’t fair at all.
Cisco using the ol’ eyes to shake up Soria.
Cervelli!
I cant wait to see post season B-ball.
ph Duncan for Guzman – give the fans a chance.
Where’s Shelley Duncan???
LOL, yeah, Guzman will knock in the winning run.
The eye of the tiger from Guzman.
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
GB, I think he’s an Alum of Arizona……..Good ballplayer, I met up with him after his Angel days….Good Guy….
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Never got to see him play live, but, saw him play on the satallite dish pretty often. Could have made a good Yankee infielder back in those days.
Pat M, boy…..if that’s the case, I’d have to start wondering about Phil’s judgment, lol. He looks like a dirty old man……I’m almost tempted to email Sam and ask him to get the low down.
Eh, if they lose they lose – I sort of don’t want the Yanks to go into the post-season playing great (I guess I’m superstitious in a way) or, on a long winning streak. Still, it would be nice to see them pound the ball….their AAA lineup did that a couple of nights ago late in the game, but lately their regular lineup has been pretty quiet.
Girardi took out all his regulars in this must win game
Yes!!!
“Matsui has been a little flat the last few games….though not as flat as his wife.”
getting those ogling eyes off of Matsui’s wife! She’s too young for you. Those aren’t wrinkles – they are paper creases.
Holy crap.
Wow.
Pena wants pie!
must
win
A little flare and Pena gets pie
Poor KC. They really have to scrap for a win.
Gotta reply to Dan. I was so surprised at that pit one against the other also. I have been a Joba fan since his first pitch. At that time Phil wasn’t even in the picture as far as I was concerned.
I was on another board and people were ooing and awwing about Joba (07). Once in awhile someone would post that they still liked Phil, etc. It just began to build gradually. I even challenged fans who they would rather have pitch in the WS (if that came up) and no one would answer Phil. That was during the Joba to the pen debate.
Once Joba was in the rotation I let up. By then I could see Phil’s abilities. Granted it was out of the bullpen. I have become a fan. My tag line earlier was: but I won’t badmouth Phil. But Betsy and others got out of hand, IMO.
I am of the personality that I do not like critical comments about any players deserving or not. The players have spent a long time developing their skills and because they are not all Jeter or A-Rods do not deserve all the crap they receive. They are human, have mothers and fathers who love them.
Truly hated all the Angel Berroa mean-spirited remarks and put downs and was disappointed that Pete encouraged it. I even quit reading for awhile.
But in spite of all the foibles, I believe this Yankee team is destined to win the WS and with the team members will be a team to beat for many years.
game
Oy vey, GB……
Guys on my blog im writting Yankee fans on Jeter, which will also be part of some future writing, please let me know if you are interested email me at editor@yankeesvoice.com
Frank Solares
Can’t believe that wasn’t called a hit and an error.
ahh that sucks
Oh, well. even the kids don’t give in easily.
with the firstbasemen playing way back, i would’ve tried a squeeze play…
darn, too bad…….oh well, at least they never gave up (not that they ever do).
so close to another walkoff
fail
Bets, this was one of those times I was telling you about…
If ever I would like to see Posada at DH and Molina or Cervelli behind the plate, it would be against a team like the Angels. There is not a question in my mind that Molina and Cervelli would be better at stopping a running game.
I’ve read much about the Joba concerns….Basically he’s not commanding the zone, his fastball has dipped yes & he tires easily…..However the single biggest issue is his inability to get ahead in the counts & when he does, he’ll waste 2 pitches in hopes of a chase swing……
“darn, too bad…….oh well, at least they never gave up (not that they ever do).”
Girlfriend, you are just getting better and better and better!
So we lose the first regular season game at the new stadium and the last regular season game at the new stadium.. What a horrible season.
Betsy
September 30th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Oy vey, GB……
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Perhaps “thin” would have been better.
It does show that he has a sense of humor, though, when he pulled that drawing of his new wife out of his pocket when the press asked for a picture of her.
Blech, at least we won the series.
The only thing is we’ve got more questions than answers. Or maybe not.
And, the Sox losing streak’s at 6 now?
2006 – We lost 4 of our last 6 (at home) going into the playoffs… and lost in 4 in the ALDS.
2007 – We won 4 of our last 6 (on the road) going into the playoffs… and lost in 4 in the ALDS.
Poor Pena.
That’s it — ditch Marte and shut down Joba. If ya can’t beat the Royals @ Home, then shame on you. Start him in the minors next year.
Cano walked twice today. When was the last time that happened?
57-24 record at home is impressive.
Marte got the loss today
Coke (should have) gotten the loss yesterday
Not a good showing for our lefties.
Can we bring CC out of the pen to get Granderson out?
What do you guys/girls think Joba is going say?
Just wanted everyones opinion on the captain.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
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Frank Solares
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“57-24 record at home is impressive.”
I saw a stat earlier that said it’s the second best in franchise history next to 1998.
There is no one I trust in the pen other than Hughsie and MO. Maybe Aceves if it isin’t a close/late situation….
Long are the days of Stanton, Nelson, Wetland, Grahm Floyd etc.
Nice try by Pena. Would of liked to see him get pied.
email me your jeter stories at editor@yankeesvoice.com
Trish, I’m trying, lol……….
Playing close games is becoming old hat for this team, so despite my comment about the hitting………it’s really no concern. Also, I wouldn’t expect the Yanks to pound the ball against the good pitching they’ll face in the playoffs. Maybe it’s a good thing they are always playiing such tight games.
M, how do we have more ? than answers?
GB, the funniest part is that whoever drew that picture is probably a graduate of that animation school that used to advertise itself on matchbooks……..
You guys played with your A line-up and you still lost!
To the Royals! At home! Pathetic chokers!
I’m reading the SI article on Mo now…………and it’s tremendous so far. Mo is really a miracle…..to last this long with the foundation of one pitch ( a pitch that he tried to straighten out, lol)? I’m definitely going to buy the magazine though – what a cover.
So what purpose does Joba serve on the ALDS roster?
Wouldn’t Aceves be the first man out of the pen if a stater is struggling? You’re not going to use Joba in a close game. And isin’t Gaudin a better choice for a “long man” considering he has done that before and can be a short or long guy/
JD,
Most of us just disregard his postgames already. They’re not very revealing. What’s important is what is said between Joba and Girardi and Eiland.
“So we lose the first regular season game at the new stadium and the last regular season game at the new stadium.. What a horrible season.”
It may not be an acceptable answer even if it’s the truth, but I wonder if Joba is one of these guys who find it easier to get worked up when the game is an important one.
Just wondering. Don’t go ballastic or get snarky.
YES post-game Booth Report with Nancy Newman, Michael Kay, and John Flaherty:
http://bit.ly/qHJkD
UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
(CURRENTLY STANDS AT 102 WINS)
Created on April 6, 2009
poster # of games
TOMPASS 124
S.O.S. 118
ROB THOMPSON 110
*RAYVT 107
#2 FOR PREZ 106
*ANGEL 105
PEL 105
BACKBENCH 105
*TOM B 104
DR. COX 104
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
MG 102
THE PREDIKTER 101
*L-tothe2ND 101
LORI 100
MEL 100
TEX’S NEW BF 100
PATRICK 100
*ERICA 100
BARDOS 99
VIN 99
JENNIFER 99
ED 99
*NYY626 99
DT 99
*STEVE-B 99
LAURA 98
PETE ABE 98
RISHI 98
RUSSW210 98
CLAYB 98
DOREEN 98
RB15 98
TOM IN NJ 97
FRAN 97
S.A. 97
HOKIEHILL 97
UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97
GAYLE 96
PAT 96
WESTERNER99 96
PSYLUCK 96
STEVEB 96
MICHAEL KAY 96
JOHN IN OHIO 95
MARK 95
B-DAVE 94
*WAIT TIL THEY COME 94
* added 7/29 or later
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I’ve read much about the Joba concerns….Basically he’s not commanding the zone, his fastball has dipped yes & he tires easily…..However the single biggest issue is his inability to get ahead in the counts & when he does, he’ll waste 2 pitches in hopes of a chase swing……
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And why do you think he is unable to get ahead in counts?
You are completely disregarding the causal effect and just assuming the conclusion.
The reason he does not get ahead in counts is because his fastball has dipped, he is not commanding the zone, and he tires easily.
Tank
September 30th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
There is no one I trust in the pen other than Hughsie and MO. Maybe Aceves if it isin’t a close/late situation….
Long are the days of Stanton, Nelson, Wetland, Grahm Floyd etc.
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Perhaps you’d better go back and look at some of the bullpen numbers of Nelson, Stanton, Mendoza and especially the numbers from Weathers and Llody when the pitched for NYY. The numbers were just fine in the post season, but, Weathers and Lloyd in particular were close to 10.00 ERA.
call it overly-optimistic… call it insight… whatever.
Joba will pitch more effectively in more effective games. He pitches on the solid stream of adrenaline found in emotion – has since he first came up.
he may not start in the ALDS… but if he comes in relief, I think you’ll find that extra 3-5 mph. Along with that fist pump and hollering on the mound after a big strikeout to end the half of inning.
You keep Joba in rotation as a starter in postseason and have pen ready to go if he stumbles
Weathers and ***Lloyd*** when the
BostonBob,
First of all lets get real here. Your team couldn’t even make the playoffs on their own. They needed another team to do that for them. Leave troll.
I kind of hope CC gets lit up on Friday… I don’t want him going into the playoffs pitching as great as he is. He’s given up like more than 2 runs once since July or something. What are the odds he continues that all the way through November?
Just to even things out a little, he needs to be hit around a little bit. Then he can get back on a good streak.
“There is not a question in my mind that Molina and Cervelli would be better at stopping a running game.”
there’s no question in girardi’s mind that it’s not worth having a slight throwing advantage ( posada throws very well) by having molina in there to give up the much bigger hitting advantage that posada has over molina.
… and you can tell what’s in girardi’s mind concerning cervelli by how much he plays him.
let’s go twins, You must be new here……The poor conditioning observation was debated earlier in the season…..
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Saucy – 106
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
M – 106
L to the 2nd – 105
Rishi – 105
TJ – 105
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Frank from Chatham – 105
The Cro – 105
Ed – 105
Vin – 104
Noreaster – 104
Fran – 104
Erica – 104
Girardi’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/Qj8fW
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
let’s go twins, You must be new here……The poor conditioning observation was debated earlier in the season…..
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what does that have to do with what I said?
Can someone tell me what the hell the Yankees are
doing with Joba Chamberlain!
Girardi and Company have totaled destroyed this guy in the
past month! Instead of stretching him out to pitch
7,8, and 9 innings they kept pulling him after 3 or 4.
He is so screwed up now I doubt he can help in the
Post Season!
This guy should have been kept in the bullpen either as
Mariano’s setup man or as the closer with Mariano as the
setup man!
Girardi and Company have also screwed up Phil Hughes who
has become a reliever.
The only problem with that is with Joba useless as a
starter the Yanks have no one beyond CC, AJ, and Petitte!
Forget about the regular season starting pitching counts
in the post season and if any of the above mentioned three
goes down or is ineffective the Yankees are toast.
If the Yanks don’t make it to the World Series the
season is a waste!
BostonBob
September 30th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
You guys played with your A line-up and you still lost!
To the Royals! At home! Pathetic chokers!
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I believe that KC just won two games against Boston’s “A” lineup. Does that make the 10 and a half games behind “Backin’ In Red Sox” doubly pathetic?
THanks pel
Think Joe will give Joba some pen work this weekend?
Trisha:
Ditto
Thank you Jason R for your response.
Reminder repost
Betsy
September 30th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
The Yankees would be foolish to trust Joba in a game 4 start, but then again…….Gaudin? I like Gaudin, I like him especially out of the pen……but do I trust him against playoff teams in a big spot? I don’t think so. I still would go with Gaudin, though in the hopes he can get through 4 or maybe 5 innings. I don’t think that’s possible with Joba at this time – he couldn’t even pitch effectively against the Royals.
======================= see how she is.
>THanks pel
105 wins looks very possible since the Rays have (quite dramatically) stank.
I’d take Gaudin over Joba.
Did a Roid Sox troll just come here after and talk trash after being swept at home by Toronto, and losing 6 games a row? Seriously, did that just happen?
“That’s it — ditch Marte and shut down Joba. If ya can’t beat the Royals @ Home, then shame on you. Start him in the minors next year.”
I seemed to hear the same thing when the Nats came in and pounded the Yankees.
The moral of the story is that on any given night, any team can win. They are all major league teams. The important thing to take away is the overall impression you team leaves you with. Hard to get down on these Yankees.
Can you all imagine what is has to feel like to be a Sux fan right now, not that they haven’t had decades of experience in what they are witnessing right now.
Love Chamberlain. “If they want me to fold towels, I’ll fold towels.”
Joba has had a disappointing season. I Gaurdin has pitched better, not just w/the Yanks but overall (San Diego as well). I’d be happy w/five good innings from Gaudin. Joba has done nothing to earn his spot, and we have a backup ready. Gaudin please.
Joba saved his best postgame for last.
No false bravado there.
Joba’s YES post-game reaction:
http://bit.ly/4dJ6Mv
“Did a Roid Sox troll just come here after and talk trash after being swept at home by Toronto, and losing 6 games a row? Seriously, did that just happen?”
Honest to God, that did just happen!
LMAO!!!!!!!!
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Girardi announced that there will be no further regular season outings for Joba, out of the pen included, because of the number of pitches he threw tonight.
you do not pitch joba because he really does not deserve to be on the psotseason roster first round.. putting him in the pen does nothing and he has just been a huge dissapointment. the usually shrug off of many pitches, nibbling, throwing 91 mph..
the pen is mo, hughes, robertson, cokes, aceves, and gaudin for sure…mitre is a no, bruney is very iffy for the roster…
again joba does not deserve to be on the roster for the first round…91 mph he pitching out of the pen????why?
two interesting quotes from joba
on what he thinks of his role for the ALDS:
“ill fold towels if they want me to fold towels”
“i did some things good this year and i did some things terrible”
Chamberlain said all of the right things, from zero command to it being a season of good and bad. He’s getting the idea of what needs to be said.
I say put him in the pen. The fastball should at least come up to 95, and who knows? Maybe Jobber will find something he lost.
Humble Pie by Joba, finally
He stays a starter and have long releivers ready you dont change your whole rotation a week before the postseason. If Jobba stumbles you bring in Gaudin or Aceves and then have CC the next night if we lose
Pat M.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Humble Pie by Joba, finally
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Yep. very matter-of-fact.
I still think that he gets an inning in Tampa. Saturday would be his throw day, but, he could also throw on Sunday.
Good God almighty, if you want to know what pitchers for what teams are going to win their games, just ask me. All I have to do is look at the pitchers I picked for my fantasy team on every day of the week and give you the opposing pitcher!
Would you think that Ted Lilly, Pedro Martinez, and Jon Garland are bad bets? Joel Pineiro and AJ from yesterday? At least I got 8 Ks out of Lilly.
Well okay, AJ didn’t lose. And maybe all of the pitchers don’t lose the games. But they damned don’t win them either!
GB, I to think he’ll get some work in this weekend….I’m really interested to see what he does this winter to correct what went wrong in 09…..Cashman will have him on a off-season program
“I believe that KC just won two games against Boston’s “A” lineup. Does that make the 10 and a half games behind “Backin’ In Red Sox” doubly pathetic?”
Our boys have been resting and getting ready for the playoffs. It’s all about the playoffs bozo boy! 10 games back means nothing next week! You’ll see! Our manager knows what he’s doing. He’s won twice before and he’ll do it again! Three rings in six years!
Betsy,
Today’s start was to see if he could follow up on his last start, which was a good one.
I think they were looking to see what role Joba would fill in the first round. But his performance today (11 baserunners in 3.2 IP) may have actually cleared up the ALDS picture a bit. I think his role will be minimized. If they make it past the first round, they’ll have some decisions to make. But until then, he won’t be used much, I think.
“Our boys have been resting and getting ready for the playoffs. It’s all about the playoffs bozo boy! 10 games back means nothing next week! You’ll see! Our manager knows what he’s doing. He’s won twice before and he’ll do it again! Three rings in six years!”
And your starting rotation is pitching like sh*t because they don’t want to tax themselves, you know, save it for the postseason.
What a whackadoo!!!
baghdad bob?
>bozo boy
:/
Good night Yankee people!!!!
is part of resting your starters depending on another team to lose to clinch your post season berth? That’s a new one
Opening para from ESPN’s article on tonight’s game.
“NEW YORK — The Yankees ended the first regular season at their new $1.5 billion ballpark the same way they began — with a loss.”
Amazing piece of writing, considering that squeezed in between those losses is a tie for the record number of wins at home in the first year in a new stadium, a 102-win (so far) season, and the best record in MLB.
M, oops, I thought you meant ? about the team. About Joba, I completely agree. The Yankees can’t be happy – and I agree, he really isn’t going to play much of a role in the ALDS……We’ll see about the ALCS, but I doubt it. He’ll be fine down the line if he does the work necessary (meaning: keeping in shape), but this year it’s just not working out.
BostonBob
September 30th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
“I believe that KC just won two games against Boston’s “A” lineup. Does that make the 10 and a half games behind “Backin’ In Red Sox” doubly pathetic?”
Our boys have been resting and getting ready for the playoffs. It’s all about the playoffs bozo boy! 10 games back means nothing next week! You’ll see! Our manager knows what he’s doing. He’s won twice before and he’ll do it again! Three rings in six years!
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Yeah, I’m sure that the 7.00 ERA and sub-.190 batting average is just because your “boys” are resting. Jesus…are you Christina25’s twin brother, or, do you just share the same one brain cell? You can dish that crap around in Boston and abot 95% of the idiots and that BS media will swallow it without chewing. Don’t push it here.
Allan
Wait, why would you want CC to get lit up by the Rays ?
Just because he has been lights out you think that he needs to face adversity ?