Hal: Girardi is “man for the job”
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Sep 30, 2009 
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Hal Steinbrenner took a few questions from reporters after this morning’s press conference announcing the new college football bowl game that will be played at Yankee Stadium. When Steinbrenner was asked if there was any kind of ultimatum on Joe Girardi and how the team does in the postseason, he said, “No. Joe has had a tremendous year this year. We all know that. He’s got the best record in baseball. As far as I’m concerned and the family’s concerned and the organization’s concerned, he’s the man for the job.”
When asked if there was any thought to a contract extension for Girardi, Steinbrenner said, “Not even thinking about that right now. Just trying to focus on the playoffs, as I should be and everyone should be. There will be plenty of drama in the playoffs, I assure you.”
Steinbrenner also said he expects his father to make a rare appearance in the Bronx during the postseason. “That’s the plan,” he said, “particularly if and when, I should say, we make it to the World Series. He’ll absolutely be here.”
Let’s win one for George!
You know, at first, George annoyed the heck out of me. Now, older and wiser, I appreciate how much his heart was into the Yankees. I think it would be absolutely fantastic if we bring in at least one more championship before he passes from the scene.
Girardi should be forced to finish this contract before being rewarded with any additional years. There are always qualified candidates available if he blows it in the post season or next year.
ITs time to play GHMPJTT!
I say 98!
Joe Torre who?? :p
the manager is only responsible when his decisions are the cause for ‘blowing it’. He cannot control how the players play, the pitchers pitch, etc…
the example of a decision blowing it was when torre moved a rod to 8th. that gave detroit the confidence that the yankees were on the run. bad move.
“the example of a decision blowing it was when torre moved a rod to 8th. that gave detroit the confidence that the yankees were on the run. bad move.”
Another example is when he bowed to the pressure put on by Sheffield and put that raggedy fool in the postseason lineup and sat the kids who got him there instead.
trisha don’t forget he played matsui too. god i hate torre.
Another example is not bunting on Schilling and the damn bloody sick!
*sock
Ahhhh that Sheff, the consummate teammate
Tom B – So do I. It started to unravel for me when he wouldn’t take an incentives contract. It ended when he threw his players under the bus to make a buck and to discredit the Yanks.
And lest we forget Joba standing on the mound looking like a bee keeper!
I take issue with a lot of Girardi’s decisions, but the bottom line is that the regular season is a much better indicator of a team’s (and by extension, a manager’s) performance than is the postseason, and the Yankees have the best record in baseball. I know this is difficult for some people to accept, but there is so much variance and statistical noise in 5 and 7-game series that luck becomes much more important than skill. The Yankees are the best team in the playoffs, yes, but I still wouldn’t give them much better than 5:1 to actually win the whole thing.
I do not have a pad thick enough to list Torre’s sticking with starting pitchers too long instead of going to the pen.
That really used to irk me. Girardi is much better in that department.
Trisha,
Please put me down for 105 wins. Thanks!
able, and how about using the same relief pitchers until they can’t throw anymore and then dumping them to the end of the bullpen.
I can’t find it in myself to “hate” Torre.
Was he lucky? Yep. In the right place at the right time.
Was he a “great” manager? Nope. But he did a lot of little things to keep that cauldron from blowing up (taking the flack from George). His BP use was awful (see Proctor, Scott and Sturtze, Tanyon for examples)
You can’t wipe out the fact the man won 4 WS (shoulda been 5) and had 6 WS appearances
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 107
Ed – 105
francessa blowing a gasket
i love it
L to the 2nd answered the relief bullpen question on the mark
Thanks Trisha, should’ve mentioned the midges.
That decision probably cost them ’07
106 wins
Girardi was in the YES studio doing the post for the “sock game” in 04. When asked if the Yankees should have bunted on Schilling, he replied, “definitely, I would have”. This was one of the few times, if not the only time, he publicly criticized the decisons of his supposed mentor. Torre had responded to the bunting issue by stating, “that’s not the way we play”….dubious, at best.
On second thought, Zimmer, not Torre, was Girardi’s mentor.
bru
September 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
francessa blowing a gasket
i love it
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What’s diet coke blabbering today?
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 107
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Trisha – can I go with 105, too?
Thanks
btw – from someone who spends a lot of day reading and not posting – while the number of posts/responses has gone down today (not counting all the bon voyage, pete posts), the quality is actually better, I think…
Joe Torre’s strength was managing personalities. Don Zimmer was the baseball man in Torre’s dugout..he left and so did the titles.
He did win 4 WS and I will always appriciate that, but there was a reason he was under .500 as a manager before he came to the Yanks.
Joe Torre was given a team of players in their prime. I also do not disagree with the notion that he put in some good work. My comment about blowing it was inferring to the same type of boneheaded decisions that you all mention above. The incessant lineup changes. The game 7 starter in the 2004 ALCS, Weaver in relief in the 2003 series,etc.
107 wins? LOL
francessa simply refuses to be wrong ever about anything
Excellent insight on the impact of Zim on Torre
FUNNY:
nyp_joelsherman: Justin Tuck sprained shoulder 1 wk, played next in harness. J.Reyes last played in May, and #Mets still deciding how he is running
14 minutes ago from web
(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
Rish – I definitely agree with you. May it stay that way!!
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 107
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Rishi – 105
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I will catch any other guesses and add them to this when I come back.
Trisha-
please put me down for 105 wins
people who picked 105 which game will they lose this weekend?
Yes, of course. Don Zimmer had everything to do with the Yanks’ lack of WS rings the past several years.
It had nothing to do with sub par starting pitching.
Blackaccord
mets injuries
a caller pushed his buttons
actully 2 callers
francessa said every mets fan wants to trade wright
a caller said that is not true in wich he is right
francessa is into technicalities & a caller simply said i dont want to trade wright so you are wrong
randy l -
(With reference to your post in the prior thread).
I am old enough to have not been able to benefit from Title IX. Not until high school, I believe, but by then, it missed an entire generation of girls who had no organized soft ball, soccer or any other team sport. Tennis was for those from white collar families, as was golf.
Anyway, I had no choice but to learn baseball by watching and by hoping that the boys around the block would need a couple of extra players so that my girlfriends and myself would be invited to play. But we were stuck in the outfield and hardly ever got to bat.
Plus, a lot of the talk about Cervelli (his eyes) was in good fun. He does, however, have good skills.
You watch enough baseball, you pick up a few things. Nothing replaces experience actually playing the game (and in this case the catcher position), of course. But it’s not fair to dismiss the opinions of an entire gender, when there is NO opportunity for any of them to have actually had experience playing professional baseball, save for the small period of time when it was necessary as a money-maker. And as successful and athletic as those women were, as soon as the men returned and the “novelty” of seeing women play a sport in short skirts wore off, they were told to take their gloves and go home.
And for the record, except for the one day I went ballistic complaining about the way the discussion had descended into the depths, I largely stayed out of it.
Geeze Louise, see what I mean about having to watch me!
Sorry Fran.
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(you must have you pick in by first pitch of tonight’s game)
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
L to the 2nd – 105
Fran – 104
Ed – 105
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
TJ – 105
Erica – 104
Upstate Kate – 105
Granted Torre’s strength was “managing personalities”, or at least it was thought to be. “The Yankee Years” raises some doubt, however.
I’m not so sure he would have done as good a job as Girardi dealing with the “personality makeover” of this year’s team and allowing the free spirits to reign and roam as G has. It goes without saying that he would NOT have managed the games, in general, and certainly not the bullpen, in particular, as G has. One wonders whose arm he would have blown out by this time ….my vote is (i) Aceves, and (ii) Hughes.
SATURDAY
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
September 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
people who picked 105 which game will they lose this weekend?
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I kinda went more with gut feel than with an eye towards match-ups
Billy Martin burnt out a few pitching arms in his day too.
It was clearly time for Torre to leave.
I like how Joe Girardi has handled this team. He has made a few head scratchers, but what manager doesn’t?
I credit Girardi with the bullpen success.
NEW POST UP
Didn’t Girardi experiment with starting a reliever so to have the starter come in and pitch deeper into the game?
Uncle E-
I’m giving them 2 out of 3 in TAM – they face Price & Neimann this weekend. Bound to lose 1 – unless TAM really has mailed it in.
How quickly people forget. The list of managers with 4 WS titles to their name is short. No true Yankee fan could ever hate Joe Torre. Then again, I am probably talking about the same people who couldn’t wait to throw Bernie into the garbage heap and booed Mariano and Jeter.
Paul Quantrill.
There’s another name on the Torre BP funeral pyre.
Oh yea of little faith.
I would rather thay not go into the playoffs with an 11 game win streak – but I’ll have to deal with it.
Who manages on Sunday? Posada?
Why does every discussion of Girardi’s managing skills have to descend into Torre-bashing? Surely there are better things to say about Girardi than this.
Girardi himself was and is deeply respectful of Torre, has often referred to him as his mentor, and memorably and emotionally said on camera after the break-up, “He’ll always be my coach.” He is not envious and spiteful about an older man’s successful career. Why should you be?
Torre was very good for the Yankees in his day, when managing George was a big part of the job (speaking of managing personalities) and simply lasting long enough to build some stability into the organization was a major achievement. Not to mention the long years of being able to count on making it into the post-season every time, good team or not-so-good team. What we would all like to see is for Girardi to be as good for the Yankees in these new, different times as Torre was the old tumultuous ‘crazy King George’ days. This year indicates that Girardi may be up to the task.
I sincerely wish him as good a run as his ‘coach’.
able 21
Last season, Girardi had Bruney start a game for Ian Kennedy in anticipation of a rain delay. He didn’t want Kennedy to start and stop, as I recall. Bruney did well, I remember. I don’t know what became of IPK,
That’s right Doreen. Thanks for straightening out my memory, which takes a lot these days
I love Joe G, but you know he has to show that he can get back to the world series. Something the other Joe (Torre) wasn’t able to do in his final years. A early departure especially with the team he has would be a very bad thing.
wow, Pete will cover Sox, what a 180 degree change!
anyway, good luck!
I agree. Let’s win one for George!