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		<title>By: GGBG (Magic Number: ZERO!)</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/10/01/wrapping-it-up-from-the-bronx-13/comment-page-2/#comment-1060864</link>
		<dc:creator>GGBG (Magic Number: ZERO!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joba&#039;s running on fumes - and seemingly has been for a while.  He needs serious conditioning work and arm strength work on top of that.

If he commits to it he could realize his great potential.  If he doesn&#039;t, he will go by the wayside like so many have before him.

It&#039;s all on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joba&#8217;s running on fumes &#8211; and seemingly has been for a while.  He needs serious conditioning work and arm strength work on top of that.</p>
<p>If he commits to it he could realize his great potential.  If he doesn&#8217;t, he will go by the wayside like so many have before him.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all on him.</p>
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		<title>By: jpb1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpb1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I’m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.”

My point is, nobody here has concerns about what’s “best for baseball” when it’s the Yankees getting the big ticket items, but otherwise folks are suddenly worried about the Twins, Mariners and what’s best for baseball.

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What&#039;s best for baseball is that Mauer and Hernandez stay in Minnesota and Seattle respectively, instead of going to the Yankees or anywhere else.

There, does that make you feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I’m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.”</p>
<p>My point is, nobody here has concerns about what’s “best for baseball” when it’s the Yankees getting the big ticket items, but otherwise folks are suddenly worried about the Twins, Mariners and what’s best for baseball.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>What&#8217;s best for baseball is that Mauer and Hernandez stay in Minnesota and Seattle respectively, instead of going to the Yankees or anywhere else.</p>
<p>There, does that make you feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I’m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.&quot;

My point is, nobody here has concerns about what&#039;s &quot;best for baseball&quot; when it&#039;s the Yankees getting the big ticket items, but otherwise folks are suddenly worried about the Twins, Mariners and what&#039;s best for baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I’m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is, nobody here has concerns about what&#8217;s &#8220;best for baseball&#8221; when it&#8217;s the Yankees getting the big ticket items, but otherwise folks are suddenly worried about the Twins, Mariners and what&#8217;s best for baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: jpb1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpb1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“However, I hope Seattle keeps King Felix just like I hope the Twins keep Mauer because it’s best for baseball.”

By extension, would it have been better for baseball if Sabathia were still hurling for the Brewers or Indians and Teixeira were playing Rangers, Braves or Angels??

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Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I&#039;m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“However, I hope Seattle keeps King Felix just like I hope the Twins keep Mauer because it’s best for baseball.”</p>
<p>By extension, would it have been better for baseball if Sabathia were still hurling for the Brewers or Indians and Teixeira were playing Rangers, Braves or Angels??</p>
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<p>Proabably not!!! The Brewers, and Angels are still drawing well without CC &amp; Tex. I&#8217;m not sure that Seattle and Minnesota will be able to survive the loss of Mauer and Hernandez.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I hope Seattle keeps King Felix just like I hope the Twins keep Mauer because it’s best for baseball.&quot;

By extension, would it have been better for baseball if Sabathia were still hurling for the Brewers or Indians and Teixeira were playing Rangers, Braves or Angels??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I hope Seattle keeps King Felix just like I hope the Twins keep Mauer because it’s best for baseball.&#8221;</p>
<p>By extension, would it have been better for baseball if Sabathia were still hurling for the Brewers or Indians and Teixeira were playing Rangers, Braves or Angels??</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think joba is winded easily because he is in territory that he has never been in

he has always had weight issues

i think if he gets in great shape mentally &amp; physically he will dominate

this is why it comes &amp; goes with him

he gets winded,his mechanics change then his velo drops.

he is not driving off his legs.he is just throwing the ball.all arms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think joba is winded easily because he is in territory that he has never been in</p>
<p>he has always had weight issues</p>
<p>i think if he gets in great shape mentally &amp; physically he will dominate</p>
<p>this is why it comes &amp; goes with him</p>
<p>he gets winded,his mechanics change then his velo drops.</p>
<p>he is not driving off his legs.he is just throwing the ball.all arms</p>
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		<title>By: jpb1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpb1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point it would probably be best if the Yankees left Joba off the postseason roster. Let him spend the offseason getting his head together and begin next season fresh. At least he won&#039;t have to work with an unreasonable innings limit next year.

Pitchers for the postseason:

CC Sabathia
Andy Pettite
AJ Burnett
Chad Gaudin
Mariano Rivera
Phil Hughes
Dave Roberston
Phil Coke
Brian Bruney
Alfredo Aceves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point it would probably be best if the Yankees left Joba off the postseason roster. Let him spend the offseason getting his head together and begin next season fresh. At least he won&#8217;t have to work with an unreasonable innings limit next year.</p>
<p>Pitchers for the postseason:</p>
<p>CC Sabathia<br />
Andy Pettite<br />
AJ Burnett<br />
Chad Gaudin<br />
Mariano Rivera<br />
Phil Hughes<br />
Dave Roberston<br />
Phil Coke<br />
Brian Bruney<br />
Alfredo Aceves</p>
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		<title>By: ditmars1929</title>
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		<dc:creator>ditmars1929</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bru, I like Lester quite a bit, but I wouldn&#039;t say he&#039;s in Halladay&#039;s class.  Not yet, at least, as he&#039;s still pretty young.  However, I agree it wouldn&#039;t take that huge haul you mentioned for the Sux to get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bru, I like Lester quite a bit, but I wouldn&#8217;t say he&#8217;s in Halladay&#8217;s class.  Not yet, at least, as he&#8217;s still pretty young.  However, I agree it wouldn&#8217;t take that huge haul you mentioned for the Sux to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no team is going to part with a king felix type pitcher who is as good as it gets,young,cost controlled

its like trading 10 million dollars for 5 million 


you also never know.toronto might trade halladay to the rs for less than you think to shed money because halladay is going to get big bucks

im sure they wont give him away but no way will it take lester,buchhol,ellsbury when lester alone is almost in his class</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no team is going to part with a king felix type pitcher who is as good as it gets,young,cost controlled</p>
<p>its like trading 10 million dollars for 5 million </p>
<p>you also never know.toronto might trade halladay to the rs for less than you think to shed money because halladay is going to get big bucks</p>
<p>im sure they wont give him away but no way will it take lester,buchhol,ellsbury when lester alone is almost in his class</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great first day, Sam.   A seamless transition.

Learning under the glare of a white hot spotlight is quite an ordeal.  Joba has had such an uneven season.  The positives?  He did show he is capable of being a dominant starter.  Negatives?  Mostly inconsistency and question marks about his conditioning.

I expect that the Yankees will have him take care of business over the winter with regard to getting into shape and learning how to stay that way.

I expect that he will not pitch in the ALDS.

I expect he will be on the roster in the ALCS if the Yankees get there.

I expect that Brian Cashman will remain invested in Joba for a couple of reasons.  He is still developing and patience can  yield a cost-controlled, front line starting pitcher for year.  And, right now his trade value would have to be at its lowest.  He wouldn&#039;t necessarily be the keystone in a deal, meaning other good prospects would also be going.  Plus, wouldn&#039;t we all be pulling our hair out if he&#039;s traded only to reach the promised land for another team?

Patience will pay off here, I believe

And to piggyback on last night&#039;s conversation, feeling that Joba shouldn&#039;t pitch in the ALDS is not giving up on his long-term development.  It is saying that the most important thing is post-season wins and putting the team in the best position to get them.  The playoffs are a &quot;crapshoot&quot; as it is, so the fewer questions marks you have, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great first day, Sam.   A seamless transition.</p>
<p>Learning under the glare of a white hot spotlight is quite an ordeal.  Joba has had such an uneven season.  The positives?  He did show he is capable of being a dominant starter.  Negatives?  Mostly inconsistency and question marks about his conditioning.</p>
<p>I expect that the Yankees will have him take care of business over the winter with regard to getting into shape and learning how to stay that way.</p>
<p>I expect that he will not pitch in the ALDS.</p>
<p>I expect he will be on the roster in the ALCS if the Yankees get there.</p>
<p>I expect that Brian Cashman will remain invested in Joba for a couple of reasons.  He is still developing and patience can  yield a cost-controlled, front line starting pitcher for year.  And, right now his trade value would have to be at its lowest.  He wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be the keystone in a deal, meaning other good prospects would also be going.  Plus, wouldn&#8217;t we all be pulling our hair out if he&#8217;s traded only to reach the promised land for another team?</p>
<p>Patience will pay off here, I believe</p>
<p>And to piggyback on last night&#8217;s conversation, feeling that Joba shouldn&#8217;t pitch in the ALDS is not giving up on his long-term development.  It is saying that the most important thing is post-season wins and putting the team in the best position to get them.  The playoffs are a &#8220;crapshoot&#8221; as it is, so the fewer questions marks you have, the better.</p>
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