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Game 160: Yankees at Rays

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YANKEES (102-57)
Jeter SS
Hairston LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Swisher RF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina DH 

Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (19-7, 3.21)

RAYS (82-77)
Bartlett SS
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Zobrist 2B
Aybar 1B
Kapler RF
Upton CF
Navarro C
Perez DH 

Pitching: LHP David Price (9-7, 4.60)

TIME/TV: 7:38, YES.

WEATHER: Mostly quiet with partly-scattered loudness caused by cowbells in the area. (It’s a dome).

STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees are in cruise control mode, with nothing left to play for in terms of team goals: They’ve clinched the division, clinched the best record and are just waiting to see who they play in the first round. The most important thing for them to do this weekend is stay healthy.

THE BIG 2-0: Tonight’s game does have one interesting plot as CC Sabathia tries to become the first pitcher in the majors to reach 20 wins this season (oddly, Adam Wainwright is also going for it tonight with the Cardinals). Sabathia won 19 games in 2007, but never had a shot at 20 that year because his 19th came in the final start. This time, he gets one crack at it, though he hasn’t had great success against the Rays this season: 0-1, 4.35 ERA in three starts this year.

ACE OF CLUB(S): How good has Sabathia been lately? He’s 9-0 with a 2.11 ERA in his last 11 starts. Whatever happens tonight, Joe Girardi has already named Sabathia his Game 1 starter in the playoffs.

CAPTAIN QUICK START: Derek Jeter hit a leadoff home run on Wednesday, and that was the 10th time in his last 16 games that he’s led off the Yankees half of the first inning with a hit. He’s done it a major-league most 52 times in 2009.

RAYS OF LIGHT: It isn’t the World Series run they had a year ago, but the Rays will finish with only the second winning record in franchise history. Considering the injuries they had this season, it’s an impressive feat by manager Joe Maddon. Look for the Rays to be players in the AL East for a while.

WPTY UPDATE: In the Who-Plays-The-Yankees race, Detroit sends Edwin Jackson (13-8, 3.36) against Chicago’s Jake Peavy (8-6, 3.75), while the Twins pitch Jeff Manship (0-1, 5.81) against Kansas City’s Lenny DiNardo (0-2, 7.52).

IF THERE WAS WALK-TO-THE-PLATE MUSIC IN REAL LIFE, TODAY’S WOULD BE: Thriller by Michael Jackson.

FYI, tech guys added the headshots to the post so that when Chad starts posting, you’ll be able to easily tell which one of us deserves the hate mail. For tonight, Josh will be back with much, much more later on.

UPDATE, 6:02 p.m.: I’ve uploaded audio from Girardi’s session with the media. There’s a lot in there, including an explanation (in two parts) of why the mighty Jose Molina will DH tonight and what it could (or could not) mean for the postseason.

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UPDATE, 7:44 p.m.: Wow. Tex gets plunked with a sizzling heater right on top of his left shoulder. And this is why even these last few games can be scary. Both Girardi and Teixeira looked spooked.

UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: Down here on the Rays’ TV station it just read: “A.J. Burnett: 25 pitches this inning.” Um, no.

UPDATE, 8:02 p.m.: That’s a turf triple there for Upton. The ball appeared to catch Swisher off-guard with how quickly it skipped through the gap.

UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: During a 33-pitch first, Girardi had Edwar Ramirez up in the pen. And truthfully you have to wonder how long they stay with Sabathia after allowing four quick runs.

I bet it depends on how much life the Yankees show offensively. If No. 20 comes back into play — and relatively early in the game — CC will stay out there. Three times this afternoon Girardi said this was “an important game.”

UPDATE, 8:31 p.m.: That error in the first by Teixeira was his first since Sept. 1 at Baltimore, per Erik Boland from Newsday.

UPDATE, 8:34 p.m.: No, they are not all earned, but Sabathia hasn’t allowed five runs in a game since Aug. 2. And, yes, we’re still in the second inning.

UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: Sheesh. Not good.

Sabathia allowed nine runs (five earned) on 82 pitches. Here’s his final line: 2.2 9 5 8 5 3. The most troubling part? Try 13 baserunners and just eight outs. Ugly.

So he doesn’t win No. 20, but are you concerned or do you just chalk it up to a bad start? I’m not sure. The nine runs tied a career worst and the Rays squared up many a line drive. That said, next Wednesday (or whenever the ALDS starts) will be a different animal entirely.

Either way it appears CC may draw Edwin Jackson rather than Justin Verlander. With Minnesota way up and Detroit way down, the AL Central race will be slashed to a one-game lead.

UPDATE, 9:23 p.m.: Here’s a link to the story about that valiant war horse, Carl Pavano.

UPDATE, 9:32 p.m.: Girardi said he wanted to pitch David Robertson tonight and Sunday. They like how he has looked so far. No health issues to speak of in his right elbow.

UPDATE, 9:45 p.m.: That’s the cycle for B.J. Upton, who makes Rays history as the first player to ever hit for the cycle. His six RBI are a career high.

All 27 Rays fans in the house cheered loudly. They should’ve asked where that was all season from a guy with superstar potential batting .241 with a meaty .685 OPS.

UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: Ah, meaningless baseball. The Yanks just moved Hinske to 3B and Hairston to 2B. In the game now are the following: Bruney (RP), Miranda (1B), Pena (SS), Guzman (LF), Gardner (CF) and Duncan (RF).

Oddly enough, Posada remains behind the plate and Rivera is warming in the pen.

UPDATE, 10:20 p.m.: And it’s a hit for DH Jose Molina. All that guy does is hit.

UPDATE, 10:45 p.m.: Considering the stakes (none), this was a mildly unsettling loss for the Yanks. Check Twitter for updates on Teixeira, etc.

This is the Yankees first loss with CC on the hill since July 28. Wow.

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802 Responses to “Game 160: Yankees at Rays”

  1. Lisa October 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    What? I’m the first comment of the post? Don’t usually comment but had to in this case. You’re doing a good job Sam. Nice work.

  2. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    thoughts on how to tweek the post season formula to more penalize “the best of the rest” (the wild card):

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12295843

  3. Blackaccord October 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Thriller by Michael Jackson…. May he rest in peace…

  4. Blueshirt Brawler October 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    By the way Jeter and Cano became the first SS and 2B to top 200 hits each since the 1800s. Others have reached 200 hits but not actually playing SS and 2B. Jeter passed 200 hits as a SS on Wednesday night completing the feat. He has 9 hits as DH/PH during the year.

  5. Matt (in Toronto) October 2nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Wonder if Damon will play the last two… I want it to be 6 Yankees with 25+ HR!

  6. randy l. October 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    jeter and cano have been a great combination this year.

    i’ve always liked cano because of the swing he has.

    i never understood the dislike of him over the past winter.

    before you even look at his numbers that swing tells you the guy can hit.

    yeah he can get a little casual sometime, but that’s part of the deal with him.

    if he wasn’t so relaxed, he wouldn’t have such a fluid swing.

  7. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Is this a Damon needs rest thing? Or a Hairston needs playing time thing???

  8. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Is Jorge still having neck/trapezoid stiffness?

  9. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    can’t get it to post, but the Swisher move was also #18 on that list

    ————————————————————

    A lot of people are making a mistake in disregarding the contributions that AJ Burnett has made to the Yanks…not just this year, but, going foreward. NYY and Boston would be swapping places without him. Next year, has every chance of being his best. His numbers this season are quite similar to last year’s. The difference in win totals are more because of lack of support than anything.

    The same can be said for Pettitte’s low win totals. They both should be 4-6 wins higher. It’s true that they both threw some clinkers, but, Burnett has 10 starts of 3 runs or less for at least 6 innings that ended with a loss or no decision. Pettitte has 9 such games.

  10. Bb October 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    lets just kick some butt

  11. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    GB – I don’t remember seeing AJ on that list at all – should be noted that the Yankees, Rockies and Mariners had the most “best moves of 2009″

  12. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Pete Who?

    Go Sam!

  13. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Maybe Joe is going to play Damon and Posada for the next wo games. I’m sure he wants to get everyone some playing time so they are ready for next week.

  14. E-gawa October 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    It would be nice to see under 100 pitches for CC tonight. Cmon Offense.. Time to step up against this guy and give CC a half day/cheap-O win.

  15. Paco Dooley October 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Sam – you need a new photo. Every time I check in I feel like I’m looking at a high school yearbook, it’s very confusing.

  16. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
    GB – I don’t remember seeing AJ on that list at all – should be noted that the Yankees, Rockies and Mariners had the most “best moves of 2009?

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, it was Burnett’s exclusion from the list that made me post that. If he had those 4-6 wins included, he would have made that list. His numbers would be equal across the board to last year’s when NYY decided to sign him to that contract. For year’s, Mussina was the pitcher with low run support. This year, it’s Burnett and Pettitte. Just one of those freak baseball things. What a difference your numbers look when you pitch on the right days.

  17. Max October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Do whatever it takes to get CC #20

    Entire BP is available

  18. betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Jorge must really be having issues with his neck….he barely plays anymore (or so it seems)

  19. betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    I mean catches

  20. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Quite likely to be a close game tonight, so, NYY needs to get a couple of early runs and hope that the bullpen can hold it for 3 + innings.

  21. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Why should Posada catch meaningless games when he could rest and get his neck as well as God knows how many other bumps and bruises he has under control prior to Wednesday? Also, Molina has caught CC a lot this year so I’m sure there is something to that in explaining why he is catching tonight.

  22. Don 342 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Rays need to fix that pen this winter

    Their rotation is only going to get stronger next year. They sold Kazmir high and Davis has come in and contributed immediately. Price will be better. Niemenn, Garza, Shields are very good young pitchers.

    Rays should be back again next year assuming they don’t have a fire-sale.

  23. KWAN October 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Real season starts next Wednesday

    This is like the end of ST now… just dragging along. Make sure everyone is sharp and healthy.

  24. Sam Borden October 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Paco:

    Yearbook? I’ll take that as a compliment since HS was a little while ago for me!

  25. Erin October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Didn’t Girardi say that he wanted to give all of the regulars at least one day off this series? Looks like tonight it’s Damon and Matsui’s turn to sit.

  26. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Joe Buck said that this is the best Yankee team since the 2000 Yankees. This was in the NY post. McCaver also said that he expects A-rod to have aoogd postseason since he is not the go to guy this year, and expects Sabathia to perform since he has pitched less innnings this year and the experience of pitching in the postseason the last couple of year. But Joe Buck said that if A-rod doesn’t perform this year than this is it for him.

    I don’t think A-rod will fail, but you would expect Joe Buck to say something like that.

  27. Sam Borden October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Erica,
    Girardi said he would probably play most regulars 2 out of 3 games this weekend because of the turf. I’d imagine that’s why Damon is out tonight – plus it doesn’t hurt to get the bench guys some ABs and keep them fresh. Never know when they’ll be needed starting next week.

  28. Y 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Dunn, Towers, Edwar, Melancon etc. haven’t pitched in months.

  29. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Because I’m bored.

    This year’s awards in the AL.

    MVP – Mauer
    Cy Young – Greinke
    ROY- Jeff Neimann
    MOTY – Gardenhire
    Executive of the year – Jon Daniels (Texas)
    Organization Of The Year – Yankees

    NL Awards

    MVP – Pujols
    Cy Young – Carpenter
    ROY – Coghlin (Marlins)
    MOTY – Jim Tracey
    Executive Of The Year – Daniel O’Doud (Colorado)
    Organization Of The year – Colorado

  30. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Erin October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Didn’t Girardi say that he wanted to give all of the regulars at least one day off this series? Looks like tonight it’s Damon and Matsui’s turn to sit.

    ————

    Good point. I hope that’s why Jorge isn’t catching.

  31. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    And here are some media examples of guys I trust, even if their opinion isn’t one I necessarily agree with:

    Pretty much the entire MLB Network crew. They don’t run with any kind of ‘company line’. They often argue REALISTICALLY about subjects and you can tell where each guy comes from (the ex phillie closer, the infielder, the HOFer, the catcher, etc)

    Harold Reynolds – He was one of the few BBTN guys that consistently gave props to the Yankees and never really tore them down like the hosts and everyone else does. He doesn’t really tear down anyone though, because he is unrelentingly up beat kind of guy. I love him, tho he says stupid things from time to time.

    Mitch Williams – Unabashedly on the pitchers side of things, you can tell his opinions are his own and he always tries to explain his view on things as to why he is agreeing/disagreeing

    Al Leiter – We all love Al, or at least we should. He always tries to explain his thought process. There is no deception there.

    The BBTN crew is a disgrace and their is obvious and sickening bias against the yankees and towards the red sox. Dave Winfield and Peter Gammons are the most objective people on the set when it comes to the yankees sadly. I think Orestes and Perez can be neutral, but the hosts(ravech et al) and kruk/EY just spout the company line (“Boston has depth”,”Yankees have no depth also whiffle ball stadium”)

  32. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    GB – is there an “Organization of the Year” award – or is that a GB special?

  33. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Sam Borden
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
    Erica,
    Girardi said he would probably play most regulars 2 out of 3 games this weekend because of the turf. I’d imagine that’s why Damon is out tonight – plus it doesn’t hurt to get the bench guys some ABs and keep them fresh. Never know when they’ll be needed starting next week.

    *****

    I completely forgot about Tampa Bay and its artificial turf. I would doubt Johnny plays more than a game and half with his legs.

    Thanks Sam!

  34. m October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Who knows why Jorge isn’t catching. All I know is he’s caught 1, maybe 2 games in the past week?

    Hopefully all is well. After all the hooplah of making a point that Jorge is the main man, we haven’t seen him much at all.

  35. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    GB – is there an “Organization of the Year” award – or is that a GB special?

    ————————————————————

    Actually, although it looks like a “GB7 Specialty”, Sporting News does give that award, along with Rookie player, Rookie Pitcher and others. They just don’t get the play that the writers awards do.

  36. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    sorry-McCarver. And personally I don’t like the guys on Fox.

  37. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Probably not too many cowbells tonight.

    The place should be about 80/20 NYY fans

  38. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    lol @ Molina being the DH tonight

  39. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I do also think its a little interesting that Girardi is batting Swisher 5th instead of second. Usually when MPB Johnny Damon is out of the line up, Girardi likes Swisher in that spot. A little surprising.

    Or maybe I am just so tired of being at work that I am looking for anything at all to distract me from what I am actually supposed to be doing

  40. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Any word on whether there will be a “special” manager for Game 162?

  41. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Jeremy
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    sorry-McCarver. And personally I don’t like the guys on Fox.

    *****

    You and every other Yankee fan

  42. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    L to the 2nd
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    Any word on whether there will be a “special” manager for Game 162?

    *****

    Yup. It’s me :grin:

  43. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Baseball Tonight is a joke. MLB Network is beating them hands down.

  44. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    1,000 curses on you, Justin Verlander.

    In 1996 I made a voodoo doll of Darren Oliver. It worked.

    I may have to do the same next week.

  45. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Erica sounds like the latter :)

    Especially past 4 p.m. on Friday.

  46. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Maybe we should do a “very special” GTLU while we’re at it?

    So Erica, where will your PBF be playing? :wink:

  47. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Erica, I would think that’s because Matsui is not in the lineup either, and Swish has power.

  48. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    L to the 2nd
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    Erica sounds like the latter

    Especially past 4 p.m. on Friday.

    ****

    I think so too. Especially since this week has been a nightmare. Tuesday night I was here so late someone turned the lights off on me. And Wednesday night a Partner forced me to leave because she feared for my safety to be here alone

  49. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    LoHudYankees: Team has confirmed that it is actually Posada catching tonight, and Molina at DH, not the other way around. More on why at 5.
    2 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

  50. Rick October 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Sam is no fool. He packed earplugs in anticipation of the ludicrous cowbells the Rays fans will be using.

  51. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Erica –

    Why not a GTLU for Game 1?

  52. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    L to the 2nd
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    Maybe we should do a “very special” GTLU while we’re at it?

    So Erica, where will your PBF be playing?
    ****

    Haha. If it were up to me the line up would have Damon batting in like 3 spots (in the same game). LOL

  53. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    GreenBeret7
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    GB – is there an “Organization of the Year” award – or is that a GB special?

    ————————————————————

    Actually, although it looks like a “GB7 Specialty”, Sporting News does give that award, along with Rookie player, Rookie Pitcher and others. They just don’t get the play that the writers awards do.

    ======================================

    hmmm – I’ll have to keep any eye out for it, then…interested to see what goes into being names “Organization of the Year”…Rookie player/pitcher sounds like a smart plan, too – so you don’t have to compare a rookie pitcher to a day-to-day player when it’s like comparing apples and oranges

  54. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    BigSix
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    Erica –

    Why not a GTLU for Game 1?

    *****

    I am in fact planning to host a special Postseason Season of GTLU. Stay Tuned for Round one on Wednesday. Hopefully, I am not crazed at work by then

  55. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Last night, I made a statement about rather having a guy that is 0-50 with 50 Rbi on ground outs over a player that was 50-50 and no runs scored and no RBI.

    Today is an example. Sam Fuld of the Cubs has 100 career at bats and a .270 average. This year in 94 at bats and hitting .287. He’s never had a major league RBI. He has scored 19 career runs (16 this year). You’d think that he’d have one RBI by accident. Even Mariano Rivera has one.

  56. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    My Game 1 GTLU:

    Jeter
    Damon
    Teixeira
    Rodriguez
    Matsui
    Posada
    Cano
    Swisher
    Gardner

    I’m guessing the major discrepancy folks will have is with the #9 spot.

    I like Gardner’s feistiness. With Guzman available to PR late in the game, why not Gardner early?

  57. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    What’s wrong with Matsui??????

    Why on earth would Molina DH?

    I can’t wait for 5 o’clock.

    Now is not the time to be cute.

  58. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    BigSix-

    You are making a huge assumption that Guzman makes the roster

  59. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Doreen – clinched everything, bad knees, tampa turf

  60. 108 stitches October 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Jeremy
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    Baseball Tonight is a joke. MLB Network is beating them hands down.

    ……………………

    So true and ESPN is well aware of what the ratings show. It’s part of the reason why they’re putting outlets in larger media markets.
    MLB Network picked up a tremendous amount of viewership this year.
    ESPN got content with mediocrity.

  61. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Barring some sort of catastrophe I think Girardi goes with the regular 9 for Game 1…esp with CC pitching

    (Disclaimer: god willing – not meant as a jinx on any of the 9 and CC)

  62. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    GB7: Why would you take a guy with a .000 avg and 50 RBIs over a guy batting 1.000 with no RBIs? First of all, there was no one on base for the guy that batted 1.000! That much is obvious, so his team sucks. Second of all, your point would make more sense if you were a bit less crazed and said you’d take a guy that always got the runner in from 3rd (your Mr Ofer) than a guy that was 25/50 with no RBIs. And then that would still only make sense if there was only ever a guy on third in the ABs where super dude didn’t get a hit. Then you could slander him and say he was unclutch.

    Still I’d take the guy that bats 1.000.

    Ridiculous! 1.000 batting average and you wouldn’t take him. Maybe you should sign some damn teammates for him!?

  63. Jeter's Edge - Pete, we need registered names and an edit button! October 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “FYI, tech guys added the headshots to the post so that when Chad starts posting, you’ll be able to easily tell which one of us deserves the hate mail. For tonight, Josh will be back with much, much more later on.”

    And if you go back 3 pages, Pete’s pic is up too! Pretty neat!

  64. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    BigSix
    Yeah make a voodoo doll of Verlander, Jackson, and Porcello.
    Though Jackson has not been great of late with an era over 5.00 for a while now.

    I heard that Jackson is going to be the Game 1 starter for Detroit.

  65. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Rishi -

    But he’s a DH!!!!! He doesn’t play on the turf. All he has to do is hit 4 HRs and he can jog all day long.

    Why Molina as DH? No one else left? Hinske would be better.

    I’m not usually like this. I never complain about the lineup.

  66. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
    GreenBeret7
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    Rishi
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    GB – is there an “Organization of the Year” award – or is that a GB special?

    ————————————————————

    Actually, although it looks like a “GB7 Specialty”, Sporting News does give that award, along with Rookie player, Rookie Pitcher and others. They just don’t get the play that the writers awards do.

    ======================================

    hmmm – I’ll have to keep any eye out for it, then…interested to see what goes into being names “Organization of the Year”…Rookie player/pitcher sounds like a smart plan, too – so you don’t have to compare a rookie pitcher to a day-to-day player when it’s like comparing apples and oranges

    ————————————————————

    Most of the Org of the Year has to do with how well the ML team did, but, also the success of the minor league system. Without a doubt, the Yanks qualify for that. Take into consideration that the Yanks minor league teams had the most titles and winning percentage of any team in baseball last year, too. Unusual that a system would produce those types of numbers two years in a row while the major league team continues at a high rate. Next year should be more of the same.

    I’ll try to find the Sporting News awards lists.

  67. Erin October 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Maybe Molina is DH in an attempt to get his bat going before the playoffs start? Pure speculation-but I’m actually looking forward to seeing how he does tonight. lol

  68. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Doreen-

    Are you having a bad day?? Next you are going to say that tonight is a MUST WIN GAME

    (is it possible Sam got Posada and Molina backwards)

  69. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Jeremy,

    That would make sense – Jackson starting game 1. If the Tigers beat CC with Jackson, then follow up with Verlander, they have an advantage and could be headed back to Detroit up 2, and then (and here is why baseball has no REAL home field advantage) home field advantage goes to them.

  70. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Erica –

    Am I? Who would get that roster spot in place of Guzman?

    Cervelli?

    I don’t think it’s a “huge” assumption – it’s a well educated guess.

  71. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
    Doreen-

    Are you having a bad day?? Next you are going to say that tonight is a MUST WIN GAME

    (is it possible Sam got Posada and Molina backwards)
    ——————

    Erica – everyone posted the same inital line-up…could be a CC-Posada pairing thing and the only way to work it and not have issues was to switch roles and not guys…I have no idea, just guessing

  72. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Jerkface
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    GB7: Why would you take a guy with a .000 avg and 50 RBIs over a guy batting 1.000 with no RBIs? First of all, there was no one on base for the guy that batted 1.000! That much is obvious, so his team sucks. Second of all, your point would make more sense if you were a bit less crazed and said you’d take a guy that always got the runner in from 3rd (your Mr Ofer) than a guy that was 25/50 with no RBIs. And then that would still only make sense if there was only ever a guy on third in the ABs where super dude didn’t get a hit. Then you could slander him and say he was unclutch.

    Still I’d take the guy that bats 1.000.

    Ridiculous! 1.000 batting average and you wouldn’t take him. Maybe you should sign some damn teammates for him!?

    ————————————————————

    What good is a position player doing if he’s not producing runs? Runs win games….not formulas and Bill James’ fantasy thoughts (which is what started the conversation).

  73. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    I think it’s a very good debate on who starts CF for NY against Detroit.

    Gardner’s my man. Especially against a potentially wild Jackson.

    How about everyone else?

  74. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Erica -

    I just want them to keep playing well. :)

  75. Sigmund October 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    First, please over-rule the tech guys and remove the head shots. They’re kind of disturbing, like one of those photo-booths strips gone viral.

    Second, I really wish Sabathia was NOT going for his 20th win tonight. If there was ever a start I would want him to relax, ease off, rest up — it’s today.

  76. vinny-b October 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Joe Girardi is AL Manager of the year

  77. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    CC doesn’t care about 20; everyone else does! :)

  78. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Doreen
    Yeah that could happen. But I don’t think so. With Verlander not going the Yankees have a great chance of taking Game 1 and I think they will. Now with Verlander he has been really good but I think the Yankees will get to him and that workload is going to catch up to him.

  79. jd jr October 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Molina Dh has to be a posting error..

  80. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    The Yankees need to sweep Detroit and not let that series linger.

  81. Y 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Why not let Hinske or someone DH?

  82. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    The big move that got a lot of attention before the season, but has largely been forgotten, is the Jeter-Damon swap. It has been, IMO, a big deal. Just taking the 1st inning ABs: Jeter ’09- .385 avg, .415 OBP
    Damon ’08- .265 avg .358 OBP

    Also, it looks like Jeter may be making a concerted effort to keep his hands out of the way. Only 5 HBPs this year, and none on the hands, as I can recall. Makes me think that he was very badly hurt for long stretches last year.

  83. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    What good is a position player doing if he’s not producing runs? Runs win games….not formulas and Bill James’ fantasy thoughts (which is what started the conversation).

    But your inputs are flawed because Mr. 1000 got hits in EVERY at bat that he was given. He was never given an opportunity to bat with men on base!

    As a guy with a 1.000 OBP, he clearly is the best player on the diamond and his lack of runs and RBIs are PURELY a result of being saddled with a bunch of dead weight ahead and behind him in the order. That is the problem, he is a perfect player. He got a hit every time up! There is no room for you to muddle the scenarios.

    By batting 1.000 and having NO rbis and NO runs then that means there was NEVER anyone on base, or only ever someone on first and he only ever hit singles (still valuable), and no one EVER got a hit behind him regardless of how many outs there were.

    That is such a flawed hypothetical that I can’t believe you’d try and use that as an argument for production.

    Thats why I came up with a more plausible guy for you to bash and say is not a run producer.

    Also the guy that went ofer 50 always had men on base, so his team is obviously great. If you switched their places I’m sure 50/50 guy would have a thousand more RBIs than ofer.

  84. Mike October 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    I know you didn’t mean it, but it seems egotistical and annoyin to have your mugshot above every post

  85. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Jeremy -

    Just thinking along too many angles, I am. Too many. Gotta relax. I have got to relax about this.

    They will take care of business as they have all season.

    They will.

    I’m a wreck. :)

  86. vinny-b October 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “First, please over-rule the tech guys and remove the head shots. They’re kind of disturbing, like one of those photo-booths strips gone viral”

    co-signed

  87. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Haters gon’ hate , Sam. I like the profile pic, especially when we start getting 2 or 3 people updating this bad boy. I wanna know who is who.

  88. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Sigmund
    He is not even going to be in the game that long so I wouldn’t worry about Sabathia. Second he needs a tune up before his start next week.

  89. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    BigSix
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Erica –

    Am I? Who would get that roster spot in place of Guzman?

    Cervelli?

    I don’t think it’s a “huge” assumption – it’s a well educated guess.

    *****

    Did you miss “Guess the Postseason Roster??” Over 20 people posted roster guesses and not all of them had Guzman. In fact, mine didn’t.

    It depends on a few factors. 1) How many pitchers the Yankees want to take being a large one. Cashman was quoted somewhere as saying they want to take 10. I think that seems low. I would be shocked if they took less than 11. Maybe even 12.

    It also depends on how much power you want off the bench. You have GGBG on the roster and probably Hairston. But would Hinske maybe be more valuable than Guzman, a pinch runner.

  90. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Exactly how much time do any of us spend at the top of the post? The “headshot” is fine. Leave Sam alone. It’s not a big deal.

    And the rationale for doing it makes sense, at least to me.

    Bigger fish to fry than Sam’s picture.

  91. Yeah October 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Headshots are a bust. Revert to nonheadshot mode, please.

  92. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Also I should say if you have a guy batting 1.000 with no RBIs then you need to fire that manager, he is not being put in a position to succeed

    Or fire the GM cause his supportin cast ain’t beans

    >:)

  93. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Speaking of headshots, and somebody correct me if this has already been discussed today, did anybody see the awful story that broke today about Ted Williams?

  94. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    If there is a guy batting 1.000 with no RBIs, he probably plays for the Nationals!

  95. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    “Headshots are a bust. Revert to nonheadshot mode, please.”

    Disagree.

  96. MikeBoston October 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    I’ll assume that Posada is supposed to be DH and Molina C. Otherwise that makes no sense.

    With Price the young lefty going tonight that is why no Matsui/Damon. Both will be available for PH’ng I’m sure.

  97. m October 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    At least we’ll get to see what Josh looks like. :P

  98. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Doreen
    Me too. I have to relax. I have been nervous about the playoffs. But the team should be fine.

  99. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Good for Rio. They got the 2016 Summer Olympics.

    Is there any truth to the rumor about instituting “World’s Tiniest Bikini” as a new Olympic event?

  100. Yankee Fan in VA October 2nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    I’m very confused as I’ve tried to comment twice and have seen nothing… I’ll try one more time.

    Normally I don’t criticize lineups. But why oh why Molina as DH? I can see Johnny and Godzilla getting the night off. But why not Hinske as DH in that case?

  101. MikeBoston October 2nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    They should call this place Big Sloppy’s: http://www.boston.com/ae/food/.....is_grille/

  102. Rishi October 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Mark in Tampa
    October 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    Speaking of headshots, and somebody correct me if this has already been discussed today, did anybody see the awful story that broke today about Ted Williams?
    ———————

    Beaten to death – no pun intended

  103. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Who cares whether the photo shots are there or not. If you don’t like ‘em, for God’s sake, don’t look at them. another case of idiots whining just to be whining. are you really that bored or childish that it makes a difference?

  104. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “Is there any truth to the rumor about instituting “World’s Tiniest Bikini” as a new Olympic event?”

    There was, until the Germans starting talking about entering their former track and field athletes in the event?
    :) I’ll just settle for some “up close and personal” segments on the Rio beaches.

    Also, just curious, since summer in Brazil is opposite, will the summer games be in February? Or will they be holding the summer games in Brazilian winter?

  105. disco stu October 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “The Yankees need to sweep Detroit and not let that series linger.”

    Jeremy ~ the Yankees just need to WIN the series and move on to the next round … I dont care how it does done or how many games it takes or how pretty/ugly they look doing it … they just need to win and advance to the ALCS this year.

  106. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “Beaten to death – no pun intended”

    OK, thanks

  107. Ninja Burglar October 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Ryan Spilborghs of the Colorado Rockies goes to the plate to “Thriller”.

  108. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    I think they said the 2016 games are scheduled for August, but I could be wrong.

  109. DontLeavePete October 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    PETE

  110. L to the 2nd October 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    The toughest test in the playoffs for the Yanks will be getting through the AL.

    If they make it to the WS, they’ll beat anybody they face, with STL being the toughest potential opponent.

  111. m October 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Wouldn’t Rio still be in the tropics? You’d think the weather is nice year round.

  112. Sports Geek October 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Matt in YYZ…

    Yes.. I want Damon to HR also… AND there is a bonus to that HR- it will give him 80 RBI’s, which will give the Yankees 7 players with 80 RBI’s to go along with 7 players with 20 HR’s.

    I’m still hoping for that small chance Jeter can get 2 more HR’s and get to 20.. then they will have 8 players with 20+ HRs.

    AND.. hoping Jeter or Cabrera get a few more RBI’s so they can have 8 players with 70+ RBI’s.

  113. Wave Your Hat October 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    “Today is an example. Sam Fuld of the Cubs has 100 career at bats and a .270 average. This year in 94 at bats and hitting .287. He’s never had a major league RBI.”

    Sam Fuld had 9 plate appearances before this year, so talking about his “career” as opposed to “2009″ is ridiculous.

    Sam advanced relatively quickly through the Cubs organization. He is a center fielder who does not hit for any power (most home runs in any year in the minors – 6) and doesn’t hit for a particularly high average either (minor league career BA – .287). He seems to have a good eye – he gets his walks. I guess he’s pretty good defensively.

    In 2009, Sam had 108 plate appearances, but he only had 28 plate appearances with a runner in scoring position. Of those, there was a runner on 3rd 6 times, the rest came with men at second. Of the 6 times he got up with runners on third, 4 times was with 2 outs. In the 2 times he got up with a runner on third with less than two outs, he went 0-2. In the 4 times he got up with a runner on third and two out, he walked twice and otherwise went 0-2.

    Of the total 28 plate appearances with men in scoring position, he reached base 10 times (5 singles, 5 walks), so he didn’t hurt the team.

    Bottom line, I don’t think you can draw any conclusions from Sam’s failure to get any RBI’s this year other than he’s not a power hitter, didn’t have many RBI opportunities and in the few he had, he didn’t knock in anybody.

    Another small sample size melody.

  114. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    The other thing about Matsui not DH-ing – he hits very well in Tampa.

  115. Jerkface October 2nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I am going to the game tomorrow and I hope Matsui is in the lineup. We made an awesome japanese sign for him.

  116. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Matsui has been great the entirety of his contract. Great player, great Yankee.

  117. Sports Geek October 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    GreenBeret7

    I still remember that year, 2001 I think, when Clemens went 20-3 and Mussina was 17-11. Clemens had much higher run support than Mussina. It was almost criminal how blatant it was that year. If you look at the other stats like ERA, ERA+, BAA, WHIP, SO, CG, SHO, BB/9 etc etc.. Mussina had the better stats. I was really rooting for him to get the Cy Young over Clemens.

  118. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Yankees never get props for the homegrown component.

    Verducci made a good point on Colorado – good homegrown core, but the guys they brought in were great complements.

    Now, why is it so hard to say that about that Yankees???????????????

  119. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    October 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
    “Today is an example. Sam Fuld of the Cubs has 100 career at bats and a .270 average. This year in 94 at bats and hitting .287. He’s never had a major league RBI.”

    Sam Fuld had 9 plate appearances before this year, so talking about his “career” as opposed to “2009? is ridiculous.

    Sam advanced relatively quickly through the Cubs organization. He is a center fielder who does not hit for any power (most home runs in any year in the minors – 6) and doesn’t hit for a particularly high average either (minor league career BA – .287). He seems to have a good eye – he gets his walks. I guess he’s pretty good defensively.

    ————————————————————

    In 100 official at bats in his career, the guy has zero RBI. That’s a lot of at bats without an RBI. 6 at bats last year, 94 this year. That’s at bats….not plate appearances. That’s not a small sample size. The discussion isn’t about Fuld, it’s about producing runs. Runs win games…not James’ and his BS formulas.

  120. Amy October 2nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Wouldn’t y’all think that, if Molina’s going to catch at all in the playoffs (Girardi doesn’t seem to be committing to not using him to catch AJ), we’d want to get him a few extra at-bats to see if he can get in a rhythm? This is a basically meaningless game… DHing a less-than-good hitter who may be playing in the playoffs to see if we can’t get him a few hits isn’t a disaster.

  121. Wave Your Hat October 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Sam or Josh-

    You have to stay on top of the Yankee lineup for these game threads – its kind of important…

  122. Tom B October 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    don’t apologize for the rays, injuries had nothing to do with it. they were well out of it when pena went down, and zobrist made up for any infield injuries they had.

    the only difference is that their pitching staff didn’t pull the wool over the eyes of the world this time.

  123. Alvar Hanso October 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Jose Molina: designated hitter… that’s an oxymoron if I ever saw one…

  124. Uncle Tito October 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    That lineup has to be wrong. The only reason you would play Molina is for his defense & arm. He can’t hit his way out of a paper bag.

  125. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Doreen, the analysts looks at the big contracts. It’s not like the team brought in a bunch of Scott Brosius types. The bullpen is made up almost entirely of guys from the system, but apparently it’s not worth mentioning.

  126. Yankee Fan in VA October 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    “2001 I think, when Clemens went 20-3 and Mussina was 17-11. Clemens had much higher run support than Mussina.”

    He certainly did. And lack of run support was one of the reasons Mussina left the Orioles — even in their peak during the 90s the O’s never gave Moose much run cushion.

    Remember the 2001 near-perfect game, when the only Boston guy to reach base on Moose was with 2 down *and 2 strikes* in the bottom of the ninth? Well, the Yanks won that game, but only 1-0, and that was on an *unearned* run… in the top of the 8th against Cone, IIRC.

  127. Wave Your Hat October 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    GB7

    My perhaps subtle point was that you didn’t analyze the 100 AB’s sufficiently, and you didn’t take into account the hitter.

    The hitter in your example had 100 ABs, but few RBI opportunities, very few “gimme” RBI opportunities, is a rookie and isn’t a power hitter.

    I don’t think it’s that rare an occurrence, given those factors, for the guy to have no RBI’s. It is a sample size issue, and you can’t make any large deductions from it.

  128. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Amy -

    That’s a fair point about getting Molina some at-bats, while getting Posada in to catch CC.

    rb -

    Yeah, it always comes down to money…

  129. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    Sports Geek
    October 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    GreenBeret7

    I still remember that year, 2001 I think, when Clemens went 20-3 and Mussina was 17-11. Clemens had much higher run support than Mussina. It was almost criminal how blatant it was that year. If you look at the other stats like ERA, ERA+, BAA, WHIP, SO, CG, SHO, BB/9 etc etc.. Mussina had the better stats. I was really rooting for him to get the Cy Young over Clemens.

    ————————————————————

    Low run support seemed to be the real story of Mussina’s career. One of these winter days, I’m going to run through his games year by year and see how many games he had no decisions when giving up 3 runs or less over 6 or more innings. I used 3 runs and not 3 earned runs for Burnett and Pettitte and will for Mussina. I’m just curious about Mussina. If boredom really sets in, I’m checking on Tommy John’s and Jim Kaat’s, too. All three could have easily won 300 games. Kaat and John, in particular, played for some really bad to lower than average teams.

  130. Yo Dawg October 2nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    I know this game means nothing, but Molina at DH? That makes no sense at all. Hinske is a better choice, as one of many examples.

    Unless they really do plan on starting Molina at C in the postseason for Burnett’s starts, and are looking for a way to get both Molina and Posada some AB’s before next week. I hope that isn’t the plan. Molina should not be starting any games in the playoffs.

  131. Yo Dawg October 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    And if Molina is going to catch Burnett in the playoffs, then Burnett better be the Game 3 starter in round one. We don’t need Molina starting in multiple games in round one.

  132. MikeBoston October 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    99.9% chance Molina as DH is a typo, IMO.

  133. Maverick October 2nd, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    SAM,

    To meet half way with head shots or no headshots, just make the head shot a lot smaller, it doesn’t need to be that large. Also change the month to three letters and put the date all on one line.

    Would that satisfy most of us?

  134. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    I don’t get the obsession with the headshot. Really.

  135. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    It’s a lot more important to get Molina some at bats than getting Cervelli at bats, because he isn’t going to be on the ALDS roster anyway.

  136. Recuerdo October 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    yankee record when molina is starting C this year: 23-18, which is .561 winning pct.

    yankee record when molina is not starting catcher this year: 79-39, which is .669 winning pct.

  137. Raymundo October 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Guys any prediction on how the tigers will fair against White sox, tonight?

  138. Recuerdo October 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    cervelli might get on the roster for round one, especially if molina is going to start a game. let’s say molina starts game 2 or 3 (whichever burnett is), then they can dh posada and bench mastui (if his knees are barking) and have cervelli as backup c.

    maybe its not likely, but it is possible

  139. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Verducci just said getting CC his 20th is so important that the Yankees are starting their “A” lineup.

    Guess he didn’t see the lineup yet.

    No Damon, no Masui and Molina. Not bad, but not the “A” lineup.

  140. Maverick October 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Its pretty clear from this line up that their trying to jump start Molina’s bat.

    That indicates, to me anyway, AJ will be the number 3 starter with Molina catching.

    Their not going to mess around in the post season with something that has been working which is Molina catching AJ. Just have to take Molina’s bat and hope for the best.

  141. Sports Geek October 2nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Green \Beret7

    Question about “Run Support”- How do you calculate it? 1) Do you count only the runs scored while the pitcher was in the game, or 2) do you count all the runs scored in the game by his team?

    I suspect it’s number 1. Of course if that’s the case, you have to have a database which goes event by event, or at least inning by inning… you can’t just take the total runs scored from a regular game log.

    So, do you have an event by event database?

  142. Bret the Hitman October 2nd, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    The personalities of the BBTN crew suck.

    I get a different reaction when I watch MLB network, like I could sit down and drink a beer with any one of those guys, save Joe McGrane. He belongs on ESPN.

  143. Wave Your Hat October 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Molina has had 10 PAs in the last week, 16 in the last two weeks. In the last month he has a .418 OPS. Does he really need more AB’s? Do you really think it will help? The game is unimportant – I’m worried that this indicates Girardi intends to play Molina in the playoffs.

    Hinske on the other hand has had 6 PAs in the last week, 7 in the last two weeks. He could have an important AB in the playoffs – why not get him some more ABs?

  144. no.27 October 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    With the number of games off in the playoff format, there’s going to be no reason to rest Matsui, or anyone else for that matter.

    From what Girardi is saying, there aren’t going to be any pinch hit opportunities with the regulars. They will have 10 pitchers, the regular lineup plus Molina, Gardner, Hairston, Hinske, Guzman, and Cervelli.

    It sounds like they are going to be really aggressive with pinch runners and having Cervelli would allow Girardi to pinch run for Posada early in the game.

    Hinske’s role would be to pinch hit for the pinch runners.

  145. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    Sports Geek
    October 2nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    Green \Beret7

    Question about “Run Support”- How do you calculate it? 1) Do you count only the runs scored while the pitcher was in the game, or 2) do you count all the runs scored in the game by his team?

    I suspect it’s number 1. Of course if that’s the case, you have to have a database which goes event by event, or at least inning by inning… you can’t just take the total runs scored from a regular game log.

    So, do you have an event by event database?

    ————————————————————

    All I looked at was the number of guns that the pitchers gave up when pitching 6 or more innings….whether the runs were earned or unearned and what his losses and no decisions he had in those games. The pitcher should have gotten a win in at least half of those games had he had better run support.

  146. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    number of ***guns*** that the pitchers gave up

    Guns or games…same thing.

  147. Sports Geek October 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Just looked at the total offensive runs figures for games Mussina & Clemens pitched in 2001 (including runs scored after Yankees relief pitchers had started pitching):

    In the 34 games that Mussina started, the Yankees scored 140 runs, and they scored only 1 run 6 times, and 2 runs 7 times; and 22 times they scored 4 runs or less.

    In the 33 games that Clemens started, the Yankees scored 194
    runs, and they scored only 1 run 1 time, and 2 runs 4 times;
    and 13 times they scored 4 runs or less.

  148. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Okay, guys. I think we need to be ready for Molina to catch AJ in the playoffs. Just read Feinsand’s blog and he said Girardi wanted to get Molina some at-bats because he would be “playing a role” in the playoffs. He did not come right out and say Molina would catch AJ, however.

    I am of two schools of thought on this. The first is, why not? Why should Girardi change what has worked all season? Girardi has shown a consistency that I actually like. The second, however, is that your best lineup has Posada and Matsui in there. And AJ has suffered from diminished run support in his starts. If Molina catches, then either Posada or Matsui sits.

    He must like the way the Yankees match up against every other team’s bullpen.

  149. Sports Geek October 2nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
    number of ***guns*** that the pitchers gave up

    Guns or games…same thing.
    ========
    Perhaps you meant “runs”

  150. Josh Thomson October 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Quick note on the lineup snafu: It was originally Molina at DH, changed to Posada at DH…then back to Molina. But it’s definitely Molina.

  151. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Sports Geek
    October 2nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
    number of ***guns*** that the pitchers gave up

    Guns or games…same thing.
    ========
    Perhaps you meant “runs”

    ————————————————————

    runs, guns, games….I’m a baseball fan…not a speller or typist. “runs” works for me.

  152. MG October 2nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Note to the LoHud blog:

    These 3 games in Tampa appropriately located because they are SPRING TRAINING GAMES being held at the end of the season. Other that possibly getting CC his 20th win they mean nothing. Save your worrying for the playoffs, I’m sure it will come in handy every time a Yankee batter doesn’t get a hit (or even swings at a first pitch) or each time a pitcher gets behind in a count.

  153. Ham Fighters October 2nd, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    hey, it’s bucky dent day!

  154. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Why catch Molina when you can catch Frankie?

    JK…I love Molina and is a great catcher and far more experienced at the ML level and with the Yankee staff than is Frankie…with that, Frankie is a solid catcher that can actually hit.

    Molina seems like a guaranteed out every time…

  155. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    MG
    October 2nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    Note to the LoHud blog:

    These 3 games in Tampa appropriately located because they are SPRING TRAINING GAMES being held at the end of the season. Other that possibly getting CC his 20th win they mean nothing. Save your worrying for the playoffs, I’m sure it will come in handy every time a Yankee batter doesn’t get a hit (or even swings at a first pitch) or each time a pitcher gets behind in a count.

    ————————————————————

    But…but…..Boston gained a half a game last night. The Yanks are in a tailspin. They’ll never recover from that devestating Wednesday night loss.

  156. Ham Fighters October 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    i just saw that on pti and bob ryan was mocking lou pinella’s catch in RF that saved the game!

  157. Erin October 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    I kind of figured Molina DHing was an attempt to get his bat going. And I’m also pretty positive he’ll be catching AJ in whatever game AJ ends up starting. If it ain’t broke…

  158. Ham Fighters October 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    until 2003, the bucky dent game was the difining event in the yankees socks rivalry basically for a generation. the comeback that late summer and then the comeback in that game put down the boston fans (not yet a nation) for 25 years.

  159. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Ugh, I really didn’t want to get into this. AJ/Molina is so stupid…….Joe must have a swiss cheese memory because he’s apparently forgotten June and July, when AJ and Po clicked like crazy. It’s ridiculous – AJ’s slump in August had nothing to do with Posada and, in fact, before the recent 3 starts, he’d pitched terribly to Molina…… It’s beyond stupid what Joe is considering doing.

  160. NYYROC October 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Listening to the audio it sounds like Joe might keep 3 catchers and possibly use Molina with AJ. Interesting.

  161. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Maybe Hinske won’t make the post-season roster……..Joe rarely plays him. That would be dumb – I like this guy’s pop off the bench.

  162. m October 2nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Ahem. 3 catchers, ahem. Just saying, ahem. ;)

  163. m October 2nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Betsy,

    The Yankees coaching staff have run through all the permutations. We have to trust that they’ll come to what they feel is the right conclusion.

    IF they decide to pair up AJ & Hosey, it’ll be in the name of run prevention.

    Nothing’s written in stone anyway.

  164. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Betsy who would Hinkse be pinch hitting for if he was on the roster?

  165. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Who cares if Molina is going to catch A.J. We have enough offense in out lineup to beat any pitcher. If Molina is catching it would only be for 7 innings. After that you replace him with Posada.

  166. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    If I was listening correctly, Girardi said that if they bring in a righthander later in the game, he will let Hinske get an at-bat or two. So Hinske isn’t the DH because it’s a left starting.

    Also, it really still sounds like Girardi is trying to keep all his options open for as long as he can.

  167. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    The Yankees always carried an extra power bat even with a great lineup. Example: Ruben Sierra

  168. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    I’m only saying this to see all of the whiners screeching like wounded cougars (real cougars….not the 25 years and older cougars). The Rays have had quite a few homers off of Sabathia. Only Rodriguez has done much damage so far off of Price. They haven’t hit Sabathia for a big average, just a lot of homers….Longoria and Upton, especially.

  169. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    sarcasm alert

    Yes, Betsy, you are right. Joe Girardi is stupid and has no idea what he is doing. Clearly he should be listening to an emotional Lohud blog commenter. The 100 plus wins this year he managed the team to was clearly a fluke.

    end sarcasm alert

  170. John October 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    The only way Hinske would play is if there was an injury to Damon or Swisher. He is a terrible defender and who exactly is he going to pinch hit for?

    Molina could play if we pinch ran for Posada late in the game and he might get an AB. There is a greater chance he gets an AB than Hairston or Hinske.

  171. Yank1 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Until we get to the WS, Hinske and even Hairston have no purpose for us unless there is an injury. They are not going to pinch hit for anyone, be a defensive replacement, or a pinch runner.

  172. MG October 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    actually, I’ve been told by people in the know that Girardi reads the LoHud blog regularly, sometimes in the middle of innings, and that big binder he carries around includes a couple of hundred pages of the best suggestions by the blog. I’ve also been told he is deliberately keeping information being made public early just to spice up the blog for the next 5 days until the playoffs start.

  173. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    John -

    You don’t know how games are going to play out. If it’s a close game and you’re playing for a single run or two late in a game, you’re going to pinch run for a Posada or a Moina or a Matsui. Then you may pinch hit for said pinch runner later on. So, no, you wouldn’t pinch hit for anyone in the primary lineup, but, yes, you could find yourself pinch-hitting for a substitute.

  174. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Okay the only purpose Hinske will serve is IF Girardi does plan on having Molina catch Burnett.
    Then you may want a pinch hitter off the bench for him. But then again that means you carry 3 catchers?

  175. Nat October 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    How do you know AJ didn’t go to Joe and say he is more comfortable with Molina?

    Do you think Girardi would just make this move for no reason at all? Why would he want to take his 5th place hitter out of the lineup unless he has to?

  176. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    MG
    October 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
    actually, I’ve been told by people in the know that Girardi reads the LoHud blog regularly, sometimes in the middle of innings, and that big binder he carries around includes a couple of hundred pages of the best suggestions by the blog. I’ve also been told he is deliberately keeping information being made public early just to spice up the blog for the next 5 days until the playoffs start.

    ————————————————————

    That’s good to hear that Girardi listens. That means that you and I are getting full playoff and WS shares as assistant coaches. The rest ain’t gettin’ squat.

  177. Waldo October 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    “Now, why is it so hard to say that about that Yankees???????????????”

    Because the guys brought in weren’t complimentary. They’re the primary reason for the team’s success. This team doesn’t have Teixeira and Sabathia, they aren’t in the playoffs.

  178. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Brilliant Phil………..not. That was the best you could do? LOL. I see you brook no argument with Joe – heaven forbid I disagree with him.

    M, seems to be Jorge and AJ prevented runs pretty darn well in June and July.

  179. KWAN October 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    You only have a 25 man roster in October. This isn’t a September game where you can pinch hit and pinch run for guys multiple times. You have to be very careful about when you do it.

  180. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    I want Posada’s bat in the lineup. Unless it’s an extreme, extreme situation, I wouldn’t pinch run for him……or Tex or any of our resident slow pokes.

  181. JJ October 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    If Burnett pitches game 3 in Comerica, then you can start Molina

    Why would you want to start him twice in a series if Burnett goes in game 2?

  182. Forntoso October 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Girardi on Molina possibly catching AJ: “We haven’t really come up with any final decisions on how we’re going to do things.” Later adding.. “Yeah, there’s a lot of things you’re going to take into account next week.” 9 mins ago

  183. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Where is CB? Where is SJ to throw down and make rational, expert arguments?

    Quality posts are better than quantity.

  184. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    JJ October 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    If Burnett pitches game 3 in Comerica, then you can start Molina

    Why would you want to start him twice in a series if Burnett goes in game 2?

    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

  185. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Girardi might be adjusting their plans because of the Tigers/Twins AL Central race.

  186. swingsandmisses October 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Molina DH … very funny Joe.

  187. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    “M, seems to be Jorge and AJ prevented runs pretty darn well in June and July.”

    True. Burnett’s best part of the season was 11 games from Memorial Day weekend thru the end of July. In his 11 starts, he went 8-2 (team 9-2) with a 2.08 ERA. In none of those starts did he allow more than 3 runs. Molina was the catcher in exactly zero of those 11 games. Posada caught 8.

  188. jaybird October 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Probably not too many cowbells tonight.

    The place should be about 80/20 NYY fans

    ——————————————

    I’ll be there helping make up that 80% tomorrow and Sunday.

  189. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    MLB Gameday has Posada DHing and Molina catching. Does everybody feel better, now?

  190. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Rex, those numbers are conveniently forgotten – they seem to have disappeared into the mists of memory.

  191. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    I want the Twins to hold off the Tigers a little bit longer. It would provide a big advantage for the Yankees.

  192. Zach October 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Well, there are not many other explanations why tonight’s DH is Molina.

  193. Ed - 2009 will be the year of the Yanks October 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    For those who didnt catch it on the audio, looks like Girardi and the Yanks have chose to start the playoffs on Wed. Listen to the following words when the reporter asked if they planning to work out Monday:

    “No we will not work out on Monday.”

  194. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Waldo -

    You’re correct that Tex, AJ and CC are not complementary players.

    My point, really, is that it is generally ignored that the Yankees have any homegrown players, when they do. And they’re bullpen, which is a real strength of this team, is mostly homegrown.

    Sometimes I think these guys forget Jeter, Mo, Pettitte and Posada are homegrown, because they’ve been around so long. And in the middle of the season, Cervelli and Peña were instrumental in keeping them winning. Then there’s Cano, Cabrera and Gardner.

  195. jaybird October 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    The Trop will be crawling with Yankee fans all weekend.

  196. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Betsy:

    Speaks to AJ and his career long bout with inconsistency being the issue rather than who the catcher is.

  197. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Kids, don’t be afraid to actually read Sam or Chad’s notes in the game post prior to throwing out posts. Don’t be afraid to listen to the audio. Your questions will be answered. :)

  198. Jacob X October 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Yeah, Girardi is really eager to take one of the best bats out of the lineup in a playoff game.

    If this Molina/AJ pairing comes to fruition, it is because AJ told Girardi to do it. Girardi has stayed away from pairing Molina/AJ all year despite public pressure to do so. He has defended the pairing with Francessa and everyone all year. Now in the playoffs he is going to do it? He must have sat down with AJ and determined that this was the best pairing (assuming this thing even comes to fruition. It is all guesswork now).

  199. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    If they take 10 pitchers, who do they leave off?

    Assuming Joba is on roster we are talking about 2 of Bruney, Robertson, Gaudin or Marte off.

    Seems far fetched to me. Why not go with what got you here and leave Guzman off and take all 12 pitchers.

  200. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Jacob, that is quite a leap you make without any factual basis by saying AJ must have gone to Girardi.

  201. Waldo October 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Doreen:

    Guys like Pena, Cervelli, Cabrera and Gardner are your complimentary guys. Certainly Jeter, Mo, Posada, etc are noted career Yankees, but you’re right, because they’e been around so long, they don’t get mentioned in that light anymore. However, in fairness to the media, those guys being homegrown was all the rage when they were winning titles.

  202. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    mick – with all of the off days, you don’t need to carry 12. The studs of the bullpen will be available every game.

  203. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    It obviously sounds like Girardi is almost set on Molina catching AJ. I don’t agree with it at all. When AJ gets into trouble it is 100% location because of his bad mechanics. When his mechanics aren’t right the ball leaks back over the plate. the catcher isn’t going to change things. I don’t want to see Molina get 4 at bats. Then it will be like having 2 automatic outs at the bottom of the lineup, him and Melky. Also if he does this Posada is going to throw a fit.

  204. RC 16 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Leyland burns Verlander out because his bullpen sucks.

    130 pitches from verlander > an innings form his pen. Same situation as CC with the Brewers last year.

  205. Waldo October 2nd, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Jacob, if this team had players TELLING the manager to do something, it probably wouldn’t be working on win #103 this evening.

  206. m October 2nd, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    What’s the world record on changes to a lineup?

  207. Jacob X October 2nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Phil,

    What other explanation would there be for Girardi taking out his 5th place hitter in a playoff game? Especially when he has stayed committed to Posada/Jorge all year despite all the media pressure that he needs to make a change?

  208. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Phil

    Who of the 12 do you leave off?

  209. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    I didn’t realize the game started at 7:30. I wonder why the late start.

  210. Yanks 182 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Phil – Well unless you think Girardi is just a moron for removing one of his best bats from the lineup, is there another explanation for making this switch now?

  211. m October 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    This will be a good test/practice for the catchers. The Rays run like the wind.

  212. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Jacob – perhaps Posada’s neck is still barking and they are testing him by catching him today or prepping in case it flares up? Just one example…but Girardi is a former catcher and has a feel for this thing.

    mick – various columnists and beat writers have constructed version of the playoff roster over the past few days. Check out the Daily News or Times to see those variations and discussions.

  213. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    WSox 1, Detroit 0. Jackson gave up a lead off homerun. He has been terrible recently.

  214. Gates October 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Girardi could have ended the speculation by saying Jorge will catch AJ, in whatever game he starts. He didn’t.

  215. m October 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    The White Sox are off to the races already.

  216. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    If Molina catches AJ in ALDS twice that means he is starting games 2 and 5, if neccesary. Posada would DH and Matsui is lost. Also, Cervelli would probably be on roster as 3rd catcher.

  217. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    As always, I give the former manager of the year, former Yankees bench coach, former Yankees catcher, and current best record in baseball manager the benefit of the doubt as he has access to facts we don’t. Leaping to conclusions is pointless.

  218. Rich in NJ October 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    I guess the under/over for this game just went down. ;)

  219. Tazzmania October 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Who cares who catches? We are still better than Detroit………

  220. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Phil

    Just asked your opinion, no need to check the scribes.

    I don’t like the idea of leaving 2 of Marte, Bruney, Gaudin or Robertson off assuming Joba is on roster.

    Anybody else have an opinion?

  221. Y 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Phil – It’s sad really. And Girardi hasn’t even made any decisions. He is just leaving it open for discussion. Whatever decision he makes, we should trust him. He knows what he is doing.

  222. Tank October 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Josey trying to hit Edwin Jackson’s 97 MPH fastball? Yikes!

  223. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    And yes where has SJ44 gone?

    Is it true he was Pete in disguise.

  224. S.A.--Serenity Now October 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Let’s go CC. Get win #20

  225. Giuseppe Franco October 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    100 pitches of fun… October 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    WSox 1, Detroit 0. Jackson gave up a lead off homerun. He has been terrible recently.

    ————-

    Word on the streets of Detroit was that Jackson had been tipping his pitches, which is why he had such a rough second half.

    It was supposedly fixed over a week ago and he went out the next day and pitched a gem against the Indians – a team he has owned this season.

    However, he wasn’t very good the last time out against the Twins.

    It will be interesting to see if Jackson’s struggles continue tonight.

  226. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    And that’s what we’re doing – we’re discussing the various options. And offering our opinions. I, for one, don’t have any illusions that my opinions are of any importance to the Yankees, but it is fun to bounce these things around a bit.

    Girardi and the Yankees will do what they will do and we will root for them to win, and if they do, he’ll be a genius, and if they don’t, well someone will be a goat. That’s baseball.

    But if it weren’t for the discussion aspect of baseball, the back and forth over every pitch selection or lineup construction, there’d be no need for baseball blogs at all.

    I imagine most of us here don’t take ourselves all that seriously, do we? :lol:

  227. steve October 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    pitching and defense win hampionships

  228. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Ok, mick, my take:

    CC
    AP
    AJ

    Mo
    Hughes
    Robertson
    Bruney
    Aceves
    Coke
    Marte

    My guess is they go with ten due to only needing 3 starters and having all of the off days. I think they might put Joba in Tampa to throw during the ALDS.

    If they needed a long reliver due to a blow out, I think Aceves would give them a few innings.

    Just my guess.

  229. Rich in NJ October 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    steve

    pitching and defense win hampionships [sic]
    __

    Then why did the Atlanta Braves of the ’90s only win one?

  230. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Jackson was bad against the White Sox the last time he faced him as well. He gave up 6 runs.

  231. Awais October 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Molina DH

    what!?!?!? Loll no way..thats a waste of an out.

  232. iiicollies October 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Phil, where’s Joba?

  233. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Phil

    If Aceves has to go long he could be lost the next game. I also like his value as a middle reliever.

    Gaudin or Joba might be more valuable than Guzman or even Hinske off the bench. Hairston might be hurt which would open another pitchers spot.

    Don’t want to get caught short in the pen.

  234. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Joba’s psyche could be restored with one good inning in the ALDS.

    One good outing could lead to another.

    Gaudin could get game 4 in ALCS.

  235. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    mick, just my opinion…

    Between Ace pitching 2 and Bruney pitching 2, they could cover innings in a blow out…than a day of rest.

    They can change the roster between the ALDS and ALCS, so no need for Gaudin or Joba in round one, just in round two’s game 4.

  236. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Lets go Yankees! Lets get CC his 20th!!!

  237. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    As excited as I am about the playoffs next week-

    I can’t believe we are up to Game 160 and the last weekend of the regular season.

    2009 has gone way too fast

  238. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Man I hate Upton

  239. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    So i see upton feels like playing today.

  240. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Are you kidding me????

  241. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Booo!

  242. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Oh. my. God. This is not cool.

  243. RS October 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    OMG Longoria better get one in the ear today.

  244. Orlando Chris October 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    CC’s going to bean somebody. HARD.

  245. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    okay, so thats how tampa wants to play today.

  246. Bill October 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Looked like a pena payback pitch.

  247. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    time to chin-check a batter.

  248. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    What a bunch of losers. Why didn’t they hit someone the day it happened?

  249. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Tampon Bay was already out of it when Pena got hit. So it’s not like it ruined their season.
    Second Longoria should get flipped. Third CC did not hit Pena on purpose.

  250. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Price can you please find the plate. I hope that wasn’t on purpose because if it was Price needs to get a life. Tex looked ready to kick his butt.

  251. liz October 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    where did tex get hit?

  252. Patrick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Clearly an intentional HBP on Teixeira.

    It doesn’t get more blatant than that, in my opinion. Price basically had pinpoint control for the entire inning outside of that one pitch. First pitch against our first baseman who is tied with their first baseman for HR’s who we happened to knock out of the season with a HBP? Definitely intentional

  253. foobar October 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Has Michael Kay ever used the word “ironically” correctly in his life?

    “Ironically Texiera and Pena are now tied for home runs”

    what the bloody hel1?

    What’s next?
    I flushed my toilet this morning, ironically there were some left over?
    I wanted my egg sunny side up, ironically the waitress had it scrambled?

    He and Alanis Morissette could make a good couple, they would spend 24 hrs a day discovering irony in the mundane.

  254. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Price certainly didn’t fool Hairston or Rodriguez there. As far as the HBP, I don’t know if it was intentional, but, Tampa seems to forget that Pena did the injury to himself. He was called foe swinging at the pitch. He swung into the ball.

  255. Patrick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I have a feeling here that CC will not drill someone. While I’d love to see him drill Longoria or someone like that, it’s not worth it to risk an injury in case he charges the mound.

  256. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I can’t seriously think that was on purpose. It could have, but what would the point be apart from retaliation for Pena?

  257. CM October 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Tex is looking awfully red right now

  258. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Patrick
    October 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
    I have a feeling here that CC will not drill someone. While I’d love to see him drill Longoria or someone like that, it’s not worth it to risk an injury in case he charges the mound.
    *****

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. But MUCH later in the game. There is no way he is doing it unless he is eligible for the win

  259. Orlando Chris October 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Jerkface said

    For the Yankees, A-rod went 0-4 with 2 K’s, but atleast 3 other Yankees had big days. Do you just show the big days or do you put A-rod’s o-fer up there?

    ———————————————————-

    Pete, as a journalist, also knew that throwing A-Rod’s 0-fer out there would generate more controversy/interest/discussion than Damon’s 3-4 day.

    Dedicated fans want to know about any of the 25 guys’ good days. But the big man’s bad day sells newspapers.

  260. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    The Yankees will take care of business later in the game. Like ninth inning.

  261. rb October 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Rough start.

  262. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    “Tampon Bay”

    :roll: A bit junior high in the name-calling dept there, don’t you think?

  263. RS October 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    What is with CC and this ballpark?

  264. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    honestly, as much as I would like to see cc get 20, i’d rather see him get his work in and get ready for the playoffs.

  265. jack October 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Hitting a batter in mid swing like pena and youk (most of the time) is not the pitchers fault. Their hands are over the plate and they are not as quick as Jeter (most times)

  266. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Ewwwwwwwww…. triple play time :-)

  267. Lou_in_Vermont October 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Longoria has developed the Suzuki “stare”.

  268. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Seems like they took CC and Tex out of the game with that BS

  269. MG October 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    CC doesn’t look very interested in pitching tonight, it’s completely understandable given how well he’s pitched the entire 2nd half. I’m sure he’s thinking more about getting ready for the post-season than in any personal milestones like winning 20 games.

  270. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    “Hitting a batter in mid swing like pena and youk (most of the time) is not the pitchers fault. Their hands are over the plate and they are not as quick as Jeter (most times).”

    Doesn’t matter. Teams don’t use logic. All they know is their first baseman season ended because of a hit by pitch.

  271. Patrick October 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Erica it’s possible but I don’t know if he wants to risk a brawl. Getting into the postseason healthy is more important than any of this macho junk

  272. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    oh good, tex is back :)

  273. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    come on cc, work the magic.

  274. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Patrick
    October 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
    Erica it’s possible but I don’t know if he wants to risk a brawl. Getting into the postseason healthy is more important than any of this macho junk
    *****

    Sabathia can take any one of thos little Tampa Bay guys… he’s no scrawny little guy you know :-)

    Okay, seriously. You are probably right there. After Jorgie’s neck debacle due to the fight, I am sure Girardi will probably tell them to squash it. Especially with the playoffs next week

  275. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    2-0 White Sox

  276. vinny-b October 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    losing respect for Tampa Bay.

    they choked their season away, now they want to injure/hurt our players. This perrenial bottom feeder, had better be careful what they start.

  277. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    27 pitches yikes..

  278. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    We cannot be mad at CC he has been lights out for the last 12 starts…

    wow

  279. terpbomber October 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Not an auspicious way to end the season…

  280. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    wow fail

  281. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Swisher is without a doubt going to cost the Yanks runs on defense. Gardner or Guzman must take over for him in the late innings.

  282. PL October 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    say what you want bout Swisher..He is a fun guy..great team mate…but he is just a horrendous outfielder…this is the 5th time i can remember he has done that

  283. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    swisher will kill the yankees if he makes plays like that in the playoffs..

  284. Serf October 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    NOOOOOOOOO. CC’s ERA was beautiful. :(

  285. doom and gloom October 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    oh well…game is over….next !

  286. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    There was an error though right?

  287. PL October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    there goes any shot of the Cy Young as well

  288. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    # Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    swisher will kill the yankees if he makes plays like that in the playoffs..

    Good thing we won’t be playing on Turf in the playoffs.

  289. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    there goes the run for 20

  290. MG October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    all the runs are unearned because of Teix’ error when CC didn’t cover 1st on Crawford. It doesn’t matter, it’s only understandable that the Yankees could care less about these games in Tampa.

  291. Serf October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    lol it was an error. CC’s ERA is perfectly fine. 4 runs towards him, and 0 earned.

  292. JZ October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Am I the only person thinks Rays are sort of low?
    They used that to ‘retaliate’?

  293. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Upton is killing me this week. I’m playing against him this week in fantasy baseball. Guy does nothing all year and is killing it this week

  294. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    none of his runs are earned bc of tex error

  295. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    The runs are all unearned but Sabathia caused his own problems with the walks.

  296. doom and gloom October 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    what truly stinks is that Kapler can EASILY be punched out on that last pitch he took as it really was in the zone. I can’t believe how much Yankees’ hate the damn umps still have. When we win it all this year, it will really be an acoomplishment as we will have beaten all the best teams AND the damn BLUES too !

  297. MG October 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    don’t be surprised if CC only pitches a few innings tonight, he has no command of his fastball, I’ve never seen him miss so consistently up and away. I’d also place no significance on this start, it means nothing for the playoffs.

  298. Arno October 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    I want this win. Yankees better put some runs on the board for C.C. to get his win.

  299. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    David price Fastball 91?? the rays have ruined price.

  300. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    Who cares so CC gave up 4 runs. Let him get his 85 or so pitches in and then get ready for next week. As long as no one gets hurt. Only the Rays think this game is important.

  301. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    this ump is a tad shaky!

  302. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    zOMG!!!!!1111!!! Oh noes!!

    CC has teh epic fail!

    Teh Yankeezz r going nowhere in the postseason!!!11!!11eleventy!!

    /end chanelling

  303. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Good thing Molina is dhin. That means we are never out of the game.

  304. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    “David price Fastball 91?? the rays have ruined price”

    Yeah they should have kept him in the pen.

  305. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Wally by name, Wally by umpiring ability too, apparently.

  306. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Please pinch-hit for Molina. :)

  307. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Nice hit by Melky. Too bad the pitcher is up now.

  308. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Good job Melk

  309. BJK October 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Perfect time for CC to have a clunker. Get it out of his system.

  310. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    So if Molina doesn’t hit into a DP and strikes out is that a positive? What a joke…

  311. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Angel-

    Nice post at 8:12 LOL

  312. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Cervelli will be the backup next year. At least he’s not an automatic out.

  313. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    And the kids are staying up late for tonight’s game…

  314. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    lol @ Cano

  315. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    :D Thanks! – Someone had to do it, Erica.

    Actually I’m pretty impressed by how much people didn’t overreact on here to that inning. I guess having clinched already helps with the perspective a bit.

  316. chris October 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Does anyone know if the Yankees are definitely playing a playoff game on the 8th?

  317. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Chip away. A quick inning from CC would be welcome

  318. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Price is pretty fired up to face the big boys. I wonder if he would have the balls to throw a pitch up and in on Posada? No chance…

  319. jack October 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Like to see a HR by Teixera next inning. cap the HR lead, and then sit out the rest of the series.

  320. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
    Thanks! – Someone had to do it, Erica.

    Actually I’m pretty impressed by how much people didn’t overreact on here to that inning. I guess having clinched already helps with the perspective a bit.
    ****

    The risk of us going on a massive losing streak and blowing our division lead is now gone. So the bridge jumpers are in check. For this week anyway :-)

    I think the playoffs could be scary

  321. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    chris
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    Does anyone know if the Yankees are definitely playing a playoff game on the 8th?
    *****

    The Yankees are much more likely to be choosing the series that starts on Wednesday the 7th and would not be playing on the 8th. But nothing is definite

  322. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Hopefully CC can get his mechanics in check before the end of his start. Just so he feels good going into the play offs.

  323. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Damn, you’re right, thats why there wasn’t major bridge jumping episode. They’re saving them up, lol.

    I was hoping its because they’d seen this team come from behind often enough to recognize that 4 runs for the Yankees isn’t insurmountable.

  324. Patrick October 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    I’m a bit shocked at how bad Sabathia looks today.

    I really hope this doesn’t carry over into the playoffs. I don’t think it will, but who knows?

  325. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Twins scored 5 runs in the 1st inning against the Royals. Young hit a grand slam.

  326. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    Damn, you’re right, thats why there wasn’t major bridge jumping episode. They’re saving them up, lol.

    I was hoping its because they’d seen this team come from behind often enough to recognize that 4 runs for the Yankees isn’t insurmountable.
    ****

    Nope. Only “cheerleaders” like me have that much faith and logic :-)

  327. tony 31 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    CC has no command, especially with his breaking pitches. Almost looks like he’s bothered by the mound or just plain uncomfortable.

  328. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    The Central is getting closer. Detroit is losing 3-0. Twins lead 5-0 on Young’s grand slam.

  329. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    What is Detroit’s magic number?

  330. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    I’d like to see either a homerun or a hard hit ball up the middle right at Price.

  331. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Maybe the Yanks should take CC out. I wonder if he is feeling some fatigue and maybe throwing less pitches will help him.

  332. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    LOL AT CRAWFORD HAHAHAHAHAHA

  333. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Well the mound is garbage, as is the entire building.

  334. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    What is Detroit’s magic number?
    ———————————-
    2

  335. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    I think I might pull CC too. This game isn’t going well. CC doesn’t look comfortable. The bounces aren’t going our way.

  336. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Well did you expect Sabathia to be perfect. He was bound for a bad start. I’m just glad he got this bad one out of the way before the ALDS.

  337. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    NYY got lucky on an ugly throw from Hairston. He’s nothing special in the outfield, or, on defense in general.

  338. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Jeremy

    Just trolls posting as regulars

  339. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if someone not on the playoff roster comes in and plunks a Ray later….

    Mark Melancon come on down…

  340. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    I think the whole Teixeira getting hit threw CC off. Teixeira face was red and Girardi looked pissed.
    Maybe I’m making too much of it but that’s my take. Tough situation to be in if you’re the Yankees, can’t really retaliate.

  341. October October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    CC likes me not!

  342. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Trevor it wouldn’t shock me.

  343. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    NYY catches another huge break, saving 2 runs. Nasty pitch, though. Sabathia’s not likely to get his 20 wins or 200 strikeouts this year even if NYY takes the lead in the next 2 innings. He’s 4 strikeouts short.

  344. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    does anyone know what time the Game 2 of the ALDS on Friday will be at Yankee Stadium?

  345. Medical Hair Restoration October 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    If these results hold up, that might mean Verlander would have to pitch on Sunday.

  346. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    NYY isn’t going to throw at any Devil Ray hitters and take a chance on somebody getting hurt.

  347. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    GreenBeret7

    You mean take a chance of a Yankee getting hurt. They dont’ care about the rays.

  348. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Carl
    Yeah your right. Some people are just crazy.

    Well The Tigers are getting beat so that’s good.

  349. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    wow Go White Sox and Twins!

  350. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    If they bring in Shelley Duncan to pitch an inning, you’ll know something is afoot.

  351. haiku-man October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    CC threw 33 in the 1st and gave up 4 hr,25 in the 2nd and another run.

    If he’s going to lose tonight would be better,than in the 1st round.# 20 may be a REMOTE dream,at this point.

  352. Arno October 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    It’s really sad that the Yankees going up to bat look like they checked out mentally after the first inning.

  353. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    rumor is Game 2 of the ALDS at NY will be a game day because the Angels are playing at home and cant play the early game because of the time difference…..

  354. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Arno October 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    It’s really sad that the Yankees going up to bat look like they checked out mentally after the first inning.

    Yeah, they really need to work hard to get the Division locked up.

  355. baseballfab October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Take CC out now this is wrong. Why risk him getting hurt? It seems ( ducks) that the pressure of big games really does get to him
    :(

  356. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    woops, meant game 2 of the alds is a day game at NY next friday

  357. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    jennifer
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    GreenBeret7

    You mean take a chance of a Yankee getting hurt. They dont’ care about the rays.

    ————————————————————

    Luckily, Girardi and the Yankee players have more common sense than fans. Yankee players can get hurt in on field fights (Posada) or a retaliation shot at one of the Yankee hitters. Wouldn’t that be perfect?

  358. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    If the scores holds up with the W.Sox and Tigers I guess Verlander is pitching tomorrow? He would be pitching on short rest, 4 days tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess it isn’t a big deal for him.

  359. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Twins have to beat Greinke tomorrow.

    If they can do that, I really believe they’ll win the Division – one game playoff or not.

  360. Arno October 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Carl
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
    Yeah, they really need to work hard to get the Division locked up.
    ———————–
    They should try a little harder for their good teammate looking for his 20th win.

  361. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    “It seems ( ducks) that the pressure of big games really does get to him”

    This game isn’t especially big.

  362. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    The rumor is game 1 maybe at 6:30(not really a game day) and game 2 at 8:00.

  363. Medical Hair Restoration October 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Would anybody else love to see Shelly take on the entire opposing team in a brawl. Shelly against the rest.

    :)

  364. BigSix October 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    100 pitches… Verlander slotted for Sunday.

  365. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    If the scores hold up between the W.Sox and Tigers I guess Verlander is pitching tomorrow? He would be pitching on short rest, 4 days tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess it isn’t a big deal for him.

  366. baseballfab October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    I meant it is big as CC REALLY wants 20. And it seems he puts a lot of pressure on himself in the playoffs in big games, and comes up short. I really hope he can break that habit this yeat.

  367. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Verlander slotted for Sunday
    ——————————-

    The Tigers announcers said he is scheduled to pitch tomorrow not Sunday.

  368. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    GreenBeret7
    October 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
    NYY isn’t going to throw at any Devil Ray hitters and take a chance on somebody getting hurt.

    we’ll see.
    a Ray gets drilled. Umps issue a warning to each team. It’s over.

    Tex wasn’t just hit. The ball was up near the head. If they let that go – I’ll be surprised.

  369. jack October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Any time Alex has a 7 or more pitch at bat and strikes out swinging.. strangely enough.. that’s a great at bat (for him)

  370. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    “If the scores holds up with the W.Sox and Tigers I guess Verlander is pitching tomorrow?”

    Really? Makes no sense. Why pitch him on short rest with a one game lead? He’s not going to be as strong as he could be on regular rest, especially given he’s averaged 127 pitches over his last three starts. They should hold til Sunday and use him only if they have to.

  371. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    game 2 cant be at 8pm because the angels have a home game.

  372. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    baseballfab

    CC doesn’t care about 20 games wth? I never heard CC say I really wanted 20 games. Stop making stuff up.

  373. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    This should be CC’s last batter. He is throwing way too many pitches. Maybe the big guys arm is tired.

  374. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Let cc get this out of his system now. As far as I’m concerned I will give him a mulligan.

  375. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    BloggingBombers: Don’t worry about Sabathia, Yankees fans. Pettitte gave up 9 runs in his last start of 2000, then threw 7 2/3 scoreless in his ALDS start.

  376. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    No matter what he throws, the few that he’s had in the strike zone, they hit bloops or bullets. Tied with no control, it makes for a bad night.

  377. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Is Tex hurt? I just came back and missed the big hullaballoo……..hmm, not an ideal way for CC to go into the post-season

  378. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    NYY626 – AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    BloggingBombers: Don’t worry about Sabathia, Yankees fans. Pettitte gave up 9 runs in his last start of 2000, then threw 7 2/3 scoreless in his ALDS start.

    I just read that like Pettitte was saying it

  379. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Hey guys did you thing Sabathia was going to be perfect. He hasn’t given up more than 3 runs in two months. He was due for a bad start like any pitcher would be. Just be glad he did it now so he can start another string of wins.

  380. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Later. Too much Jack-type stupidity on the board to enjoy reading.

  381. Y 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Can’t TBS put the Angels at 10? They always put the West Coast teams on at 10.

    Dodgers will probably take the same series as us and be on Wednesday right?

  382. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    ALDS

    Game 2 at NY 4:30 PM ET
    Game 2 at LA 9:10 PM ET

  383. Erin October 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Is it wrong to be a little relieved that this is happening tonight? I feel like a bad fan, but I just figure better now than on Wednesday. Add to that the fact that CC was so good for so long it’s only natural he was going to have a bad outing at some point.

  384. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I guess CC is not comfortable pitching to Posada…lol

  385. baseballfab October 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    Stick a fork in him he is toast.

  386. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Other than that, a pretty nice tuneup for CC.

  387. Benny Blanco October 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    OUCH!

  388. vince October 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    man, get him out. silly even to have him start 3rd inning.

  389. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Geez, this is terrible………..The questions will start about CC now – not from me, but this was just ugly and I admit this makes me somewhat nervous because his post-season performances ( I don’t count last year, when the guy was exhausted by the time the Phillies game rolled around) have not been particularly good.

  390. melky53 October 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    CC is pretty upset in the dugout….

  391. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    I think I need to repost my 8.12pm post. The bridge jumpers couldn’t help themselves.

    Kinda a moot question because CC didn’t have anything tonight, but I thought he was going to get all the starters in the lineup tonight because of the whole 20th win thing?

  392. davidson October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    This has to be his worst start.He’s been scored on every inning
    .He keeps loading the bases.Molina would’ve called a better game.
    CC isn’t on tonight,he’s imploding.Molina should’ve caught him.Finally after 82 pitches.

  393. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    This is ridiculous.

    I know the Yankees were due for one of these “blowout” losses, and better now than next week.

    (Michael, CC was not getting the Cy Young this year anyway)

    But this is an ugly game.

    And I don’t like that the last few games the offense hasn’t looked good, either. Since his great game, ARod hasn’t done anything.

    I know you turn the page after the season is done. I know these games don’t count. I know they’ve already clinched and they’re resting and fine-tuning and all.

    I just don’t like games like this one regardless.

  394. Boston Dave October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    and it officially becomes a throw-away game…

  395. kd October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Looks like Verlander will have to pitch this weekend, good for the Yanks, he can go only once in the ALDS then.

  396. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I have reached new lows-

    I have the game on TV and I am watching last night’s Fringe online at the same time (which still posting here of course)

  397. m October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    CC’s such a good teammate, trying to deflect attention from Joba.

  398. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Doreen-

    Do you need a hug?

  399. 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Doreen, are you worried?

  400. Abdababdaserser October 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Great outing there Joba… oh wait that is CC. And great job of Girardi sitting on his butt and allowing that to keep going like that.

    I think Edwar Ramirez could have done better than that. It was absolutely putrid.

    While the game means nothing, this isn’t what you want to see heading into the post season.

  401. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    LOL. Now that was impressive spin, m. Well done! :D

  402. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Angel -

    Me too. Molina is not a starter. Hairston is not a starter. Matsui is on the bench. That’s not the A lineup.

    Of course, to me, it’s more important that they play well, and it doesn’t look like they are. Of course, that could be a function of the score.

  403. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Doreen does sound a bit glum, but she’s right about the offense……..I refuse to pick on Alex as no one has really done anything.

  404. RS October 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    I don’t think Girardi should have left CC in to throw 30+ pitches in an inning for the second time.

  405. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    “Looks like Verlander will have to pitch this weekend, good for the Yanks, he can go only once in the ALDS then.”

    Depends on which series they pick. If, as many expect, they take the series that starts Wednesday, Verlander would start Game 2 and a potential Game 5

  406. Joker, The October 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    CC’s in typical postseason form already. Fantastic.

  407. chris October 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Sam Borden jinxed this team. They havent won since he took over for Pete.

  408. Boston Dave October 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “Looks like Verlander will have to pitch this weekend, good for the Yanks, he can go only once in the ALDS then.”

    ———-

    if he pitches this weekend, he will go in game 2 and game 5 on normal rest, if necessary

  409. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Will some of you stop worrying. All starters go through a stretch where they are dominant and then they eventually have a bad start. I’m glad that it happened now. I can’t believe some of the stupid things I am reading. It’s like some people have watched baseball for the first time.

  410. Abdababdaserser October 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “melky53 October 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    CC is pretty upset in the dugout….”

    He should be. That was one of the worst outing for a pitcher who is supposed to be an ace heading into the post season I’ve seen.

  411. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Perhaps the offense is a bit sluggish? These are meaningless games after all.

  412. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    How did the great Edwin Jackson give up 8 runs?

  413. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Joker, The
    Your an idiot ! I’m sorry but all great pitchers are due for a stinker. Did you expect he was going to not have a bad start ? He has been on a roll for 2 months.

  414. RS October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    These next two games are going to be huge for Burnett and Pettitte. Imagine if those two don’t pitch well…the media is going to hammer this team to death heading into the ALDS. After tonight’s start, I hope CC doesn’t put too much pressure on himself in Game 1. It’s hard to believe how terrible his command was today compared to the brilliancy he displayed against the Red Sox.

  415. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Abdababdaserser October 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    “melky53 October 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    CC is pretty upset in the dugout….”

    He should be. That was one of the worst outing for a pitcher who is supposed to be an ace heading into the post season I’ve seen.

    Don’t worry about CC. Pettitte gave up 9 runs in his last start of 2000, then threw 7 2/3 scoreless in his ALDS start.

  416. haiku-man October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    I was hoping for #20.CC was due for a loss.Better tonight than in the ALCS.

  417. Boston Dave October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “These next two games are going to be huge for Burnett and Pettitte. Imagine if those two don’t pitch well…the media is going to hammer this team to death heading into the ALDS.”

    ———-

    hammered by the media??

    oh no! the players feelings will be ruined!!

  418. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “How did the great Edwin Jackson give up 8 runs?”

    Pretty much the way the great CC Sabathia did…only with fewer walks.

  419. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    It’s hard to concentrate on the mound when you’re thinking about a huge Cal-U$C football game.

    CC is mighty, but he’s also a human being.

    Cal has a bye next weekend and CC will pitch Game One with a clear mind and a happy heart.

  420. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    I don’t care so much about this game, but the offense has really struggled recently. I know these games don’t count, but I really don’t want these guys to get into bad habits at the plate……

  421. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    I swear that some of the posters here lack sommon sense. You act like spoiled brats expecting everything to be perfect all the time when it doesn’t work like that.

  422. Coach6423 October 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Edwin the great Jackson has been giving up runs like they are going out of style for a while now.

  423. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “How did the great Edwin Jackson give up 8 runs?”

    Pretty much the way the great CC Sabathia did…only with fewer walks.

    And 2 more Homers

  424. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Trevor, I understand, but the Yankees approach at the plate should be the same……..if they start getting into bad habits now, they may carry into the post-season. I think they really need to be careful.

    Again, though – is Tex ok?

  425. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Tex is out? Because it’s a blowout or he’s hurt? Wonderful…..

  426. Boston Dave October 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    the Yankees aren’t perfect.

    Josh Beckett had to have a start scratched with a bad back.
    John Lackey is struggling for the Angels… and then there is Brian Fuentes. Verlander looks good but Edwin doesn’t and Porcello is a rookie with a lot of innings this season.

    one bad start by CC is hardly a major concern.

    would you rather have any other roster going into the playoffs than the Yanks? I wouldn’t.

  427. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Jeremy -

    I’m not worried about Sabathia.

    I am nervous about the playoffs. It’s not always the best team that wins, but the hottest team.

    Now, part of me sees that the Yankees have played on an even keel all year. They bounce back from losses (especially of this blowout variety) and I like their chances.

    But it’s been drummed into us all that the playoffs are a crapshoot. That you close the door on the regular season and start fresh. Well, that means the other teams that didn’t win 100 games get new life, too.

    So, I’m a little nervous.

    And now, Melky may have tweaked something, and they took out Teixeira – which may mean nothing.

    And see, these games where the Yankees have nothing, they really have nothing. :)

  428. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    The Tigers might be in some serious trouble. The longer they delay the clinch or if they fail to close it out this weekend the advantage goes to the Yankees.

  429. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    I guess Girardi took Tex out to make sure he didn’t give Price a beat down.

  430. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    I just read that Melky is/was limping……..was he hurt too? If so, how?

  431. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Ahahaa Kay just said the guys made fun of Andy for saying Y’all a bunch of times in that speech the other night :)

  432. Rex October 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    “Cal has a bye next weekend and CC will pitch Game One with a clear mind and a happy heart.”

    Gotta say, I thought I was good when I teased Cal up to +38 last week. Who’d have thunk?

  433. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    NO TEIXEIRA IS NOT HURT. CALM DOWN!

    He’s out cause this game means absolutely nothing. And yes I’m mad cause some these posters. smh

  434. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    When did Melky tweak something?

  435. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Once Price leaves the game I would like to see Damon get an at bat. They need to get him going. In his last couple of games he has looked terrible and he is something like 2-24.

  436. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I’m teasing them up to +49 tomorrow. It’s a lock.

  437. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    The Twins announcers just said if Sunday’s game means something Pavano is pitching on 3 days rest. That he said he wants to pitch that game. LOL

  438. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    A single away from the cycle in the 4th inning hahaha

  439. JJ October 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I really don’t want to see Posoda on the plate.
    Posoda always has the communication problems with pitchers.
    Pitcher’s performance decide the result of the game,while the catcher affect pitcher’s performance.

  440. m October 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    You can’t do much about it other than laugh it off.

  441. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    I’d imagine Teix is out because its a blowout..

    Leaving him in there as target practice after his close call earlier, makes zero sense.

  442. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    It’s too bad that Alby hasn’t been able to stabalize this game, but at least he’s been able to normalize it.

  443. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    They’re just missing all night. C’est la vie.

  444. Jake October 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    C’mon… you really think CC didn’t want 20 wins and he just mailed in this start?

    Give the guy more integrity than that. Same with the hitters. You think they are not trying and are just swinging for the fences trying to get the AB over with just because the games don’t mean anything?

    Players want to feel good going into the postseason, this isin’t like the Spring

  445. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    So what do we talk about instead since this game is stinky?

  446. eric October 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    man i hope they have to pitch verlander on sunday

  447. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Just hope Twins/Tigers have to play Tuesday. Winner flies to NY after the game just happy to be there.

  448. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    JJ, where are you from?

  449. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Upton = Cano

    Lazy

  450. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    I’m going to pray that the Twins pull this out for a one game playoff Tuesday. If that happens which ever team pulls it out will be in serious trouble against the Yankees.

  451. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Yep, just one of those games – Doreen. Nothing is dropping in for them.

    I didn’t listen to the pre-game audio – so I admit to still being a little confused about the Molina being the DH. Especially with a few hitters on the bench. Gardner looks like he could use some at bats to get his swing back.

  452. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Grats upton

  453. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    And everything is dropping in for the stupid Rays.

    Just one of those games.

  454. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Cano is nothing like Upton.

    Sheesh.

  455. Sigmund October 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    It’s almost good that the Yanks are getting their butts kicked tonite. Get it out of the system; wake-up call; whatever. I’m reminded of the 1999 (or was it 2000?) season where the Yanks lost like their last 7 games — blown out in almost all of them, if I remember correctly, looked like they were sleep-walking, and then — bam! — playoffs started and they romped to a Championship.

  456. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Robertson’s fastball looks really good. But his curve is not there, yet. Hopefully throwing it doesn’t put too much pressure on his arm.

  457. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Of course it could just be a slump (offensively) and they are entitled, but it’s concerning because there is a lot of pressure on this team. I realize Jorge and Jeter are still here, but the rest of this team (not Tex or Swish of course) has a pitiful record in the post-season the last few years. That is why there is concern…….at least, that is (in part) why I am concerned. This group (talking about the lineup only) does not have post-season success to fall back on……(yes, I know about Jeter and Posada, but the group as a whole as been putrid recently)

  458. TMZ October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    I like how Upton finally decides to play like a major league baseball player on the last series of the year.

  459. Sigmund October 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Hitting for the cycle is kind of a dumb thing to celebrate — here’s what I’m saying. What if Upton has just hit a ball into the gap? Should he have stopped at first base, so he could be celebrated for hitting the cycle? No, he should’ve gone to second. A homer, a triple, two doubles — better than a cycle but not celebrated. Odd.

  460. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    That is also why some fans are concerned with CC’s performance……..they are simply worried because of our recent post-season history. It doesn’t make them or us worse fans because we are concerned.

  461. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    I wonder if this game is about to become a Tampa Bay classic game

  462. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Eh, let Upton have his cycle. He’s still going home after the last game of this series……..

  463. Jeremy October 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    There is no reason to be concerned because there is nothing any of us can do about it. It’s all in the players hands next week. We can only be fans.

  464. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    On Monday, Upton can try to hit a hole-in-one.

  465. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Betsy -

    Nah.

    This game has become oddly comforting to me right now.

    All year, it has seemed to me, they ahve these games where they have nothing. Where the starter just has nothing and everyone who comes in after him has nothing. They get it all out of their system at once. There’s no blown saves or blown leads here and there. It’s all done in one night. And then, remarkably, they’ve pretty much bounced back the next day as if it never happened.

    So, this is one of those games. And tomorrow the Yankees will be back.

    Darn!!!! NOTHING, I mean, NOTHING is falling in for them tonight. Shucks.

  466. Jon Locke October 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    For all of you who bashed me in August because I said CC will revert to typical CC form come October .. Well I am so sorry to say I was right. I hate being right in this case. This was a Vintage October CC performance we just witnessed. You can say it’s one game, he’s pitched so great down the stretch (which he had..) You can say last year he was bad because he was on 3 days rest.. You can make any excuses you want. I don’t expect a CY Young performance each time out but this was a “big” game for CC. I don’t care what he says, 20 wins IS a GREAT accomplishment. He had to feel pressure. Can you imagine how much pressure he will feel come Wednesday?

    25IP 33H 22R 22ER 22BB in 5 October starts/ Add tonight and that is his career #s in October..

    I am now officially worried about the postseason. Hopefully this all means nothing. I want nothing more than CC to come out firing strikes on Wednesday. But I don’t think any of us can be surprised if he does not, despite how great of an overall year he has had..

  467. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    “On Monday, Upton can try to hit a hole-in-one.”

    Perspective is an amazing thing. :wink:

  468. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Maybe they should have started with this lineup. :lol:

  469. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    I cant stand it when the Rays are winning at home. Their announcers become way more annoying and grating, lol.

  470. Jon Locke October 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    The walks is the most horrific # in those career Postseason #s. And then look at tonight. 2.2 IP, 5 WALKS !!!!! This is a guy who since the All Star Break had Rivera like control of his fastball. Tonight, not so much. How could this NOT be a mental thing? Can he really just not pitch under any kinda of real pressure? That’s the only way this makes any logical sense. You don’t just lose it in 5 days. I wonder if he was going for win # 19 instead of 20, would this have been different?

  471. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Bruney needs to have an easy inning if he wants to make the roster. I still don’t know what to think of him pitching in a play off game.

  472. Orlando Chris October 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Better that the Yankees get blown away tonight than Sunday when I’m there.

  473. haiku-man October 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Price will go deep into the 8th,or 9th.He’s not having throw many pitches per inning.

    Alex and Swisher swung at first pitches and were out.
    Hinske took 3 pitches.Price is at 85 pitches after 6.

  474. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “Can he really just not pitch under any kinda of real pressure?”

    These kind of questions can’t be for real.

  475. Pov October 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    The you gotta believe banners up at the Homedome? Tigers beaten again by the White Sox spoilers and Minn winning. One game back with two to play. What’s the chances now of a tie?

  476. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Jon Locke, when I took in the inanity of your posts tonight, I had to ask myself, “How could this NOT be a mental thing?”

    But I’m also willing to believe that you were just due for a bad outing.

  477. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Nice work by Bruney

  478. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Good thing-

    Bruney had a 1-2-3 inning!

  479. Jon Locke October 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    # Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “Can he really just not pitch under any kinda of real pressure?”

    These kind of questions can’t be for real.
    ___________________

    And why not? Enlighten me. Maybe I’m missing something in his career that would indicate he can win a big game in October.

  480. iiicollies October 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Let me get this straight – only Bruney has succeeded in going 1-2-3??

  481. Mark in Tampa October 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I see the Rays are back to their comfortable role of playing their World Series against the Yankees in late September. If they had shown half this much desire all season they wouldn’t be 20-some games back right now.

  482. Doreen October 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    That was a good Bruney inning. Yay.

  483. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Jon locke-

    You are missing something big in CC’s career to indicate that he can win a big game in October. You are overlooking his actually career stats.

    But if you want to believe that a lousy start in a virtually meaningless game a week before the playoffs is a great indicator of how he will pitch in the playoffs. By all means, be my guest.

    I think you can try much harder to find better things to worry about

  484. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    “And why not? Enlighten me. Maybe I’m missing something in his career that would indicate he can win a big game in October.”
    ***************************

    Just as I’m missing the huge sample size that says that he can’t do it. Seems pretty even of bad and good to me – and not a big enough disparity to making categorical statements like he can’t pitch under pressure or in big October games. I seem to remember the Yankees being knocked out by the Indians last time they were in the postseason.

  485. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Grr- I got so worked up I typoed my first sentance-

    Should read “You are overlooking his actual career stats”

  486. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    I wish Nick would ask if anyone is about to take a drink of anything before he posts.

    Moutain Dew going down the wrong way is more unpleasant than this game. :(

  487. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Mountain… *sigh* I blame Erica for that, only because GB7 isn’t around to blame.

  488. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
    Mountain… *sigh* I blame Erica for that, only because GB7 isn’t around to blame.
    *****

    I accept blame.

    Not sure what I did, but I accept it

  489. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Because you typoed just before I did, and when GB7 is around it’s catching. :D

  490. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    How’d Robertson look? Thanks!

  491. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    I have an excuse though.. my face was still resuming normal color from purple after my sputters, so my vision was impaired.

  492. lil' m October 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Just tuned in when the score was 11-1. Forgot to set the DVR, fortunately lol. As long as Tex is okay, I just see this as one of those games. Looks like David Price was really on. It was interesting to hear Kay and Cone’s comments about the premium value teams are putting on developing young pitching, and it’s exciting to think that the Yankees are doing just that. It’s even more exciting to think that this time next week, they’ll actually be playing in the ALDS. Oh, and GO TWINS lol (unless and until they make the postseason and then it’s business as usual, Twinkies).

    Sam: Sorry I didn’t post this earlier, but a big welcome to you and to Chad. It’s great to have the two of you taking over for Pete. Thanks to both of you for stepping up to keep this awesome blog going.

  493. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    Because you typoed just before I did, and when GB7 is around it’s catching.
    *****

    Gotcha. I usually only typo under the following circumstances:
    1) I am at work and rushing cause I need to pretend to be working
    2) I am really irritated and thinking the thoughts faster than my fingers can type them
    3) I am too tired to see straight at what I am typing

  494. Christina October 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    So I think its safe to say Greinke is the CY Young.. Correct?

  495. Peter Rabbit October 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Hey fellas,

    I didn’t watch tonight’s game. How would you say CC looked tonight? Is he hurt? Did he look tired? Was he testing different pitches? What the hell happened tonight?

  496. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    I do it when I’m multitasking.
    When I’m infuriated and I type faster than I can think the words.
    And when I’m wondering if I need a life alert chain while I’m posting comments because of my poor ability to multitask which has dangerous potential when I’m drinking and laughing at something.
    If I’m tired, I just stop posting.. usually because I’ve fallen asleep in my chair, lol.

  497. lil' m October 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    “So I think its safe to say Greinke is the CY Young.. Correct?”

    LOL

  498. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    He didn’t have it tonight at all, Peter Rabbit.

    He was as done as one of Mrs MacGregor’s rabbit pies. :lol:

  499. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Angel-

    I still win. I am watching the Yankees, Cougar Town and typing here all at the same time :-)

  500. Pepitone October 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    I’m not the least bit worried, this game is “Fall Training” for getting ready for the playoffs. I wouldn’t doubt Sabathia was trying a few wrinkles with his pitches to see how they worked.

    These guys know what is coming up, these games mean very little to them.

    It’s hard to play hard, or stay focused, when you have accomplished all you wanted to accomplish for the regular season.

  501. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    I thinks so, Christina. I never really thought he’d get it anyway, although 20 wins might have got him a few more votes, I think Greinke pretty much has it.

  502. Christina October 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Cougar Town? That’s a show?

  503. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Of course you win, you’re doing all of that AND you’ve managed to not have a life alert moment.

  504. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Hey look!!!

    The rookie got a home run

  505. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Yay Juan. Maybe we should of had him as the DH. :)

  506. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Christina
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
    Cougar Town? That’s a show?
    *****

    Yup. With Courtney Cox. Wednesdays at 9:30.

    I have to watch it online cause it conflicts on my DVR with Law and Order SVU and Glee.

    Have I ever mentioned my TV habit?

  507. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    A BOMB by Miranda!

  508. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Miranda has ridiculous left-handed power.

    Just ridiculous. And he’s not just a long swing guy – he can really make contact and hit the ball all over the park. But man, that swing was made for Yankee Stadium.

    Surely we can find a spot on the bench, and at occasional DH and seldom-use at 1B for him next season.

    The bat’s the thing; I don’t want to see this guy go.

  509. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Duncan really needs to try swinging harder….

  510. Brandon Awesome "BECAUSE I'M AWESOME!" October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Rookie HRs that go that far are very rare, this kid is just as talented as Kendry Morales, he’ll prbly be a big reason the Yankees ponder about Matsui-san.

  511. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    So do they not like Miranda because they didn’t ignore him?

  512. JK October 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Mirada would hit 25+ hr in Yankee stadium

  513. JH October 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Sam,
    Do we have to see your photos everyday and everywhere in here? Just kidding!

  514. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    I believe they said Miranda is a free agent after this season or maybe it is next season. He will get a long look in spring training unless he needs to be signed to a major league deal.

  515. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    High-five Knicks on Miranda.

    Let’s hope Cash is smart and keeps him on the 40 man. Would hate gift-wrap that bat.

  516. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    JK
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    Mirada would hit 25+ hr in Yankee stadium
    ====

    Oh, if he were the regular DH – done.

  517. Serf October 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Oh my god…I just realized that’s Hughes on the mound. CC sucked. Hughes is sucking. WHAT GAME ARE WE WATCHING OMG. *kills self*

  518. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pm
    Yay Juan. Maybe we should of had him as the DH.
    ======

    That bat makes me drool. He would be a terror as the DH. He’s a born hitter, and born to club the ball over that short porch. He also has power to all fields.

    A devastating bat idling away.

    He Cash! I don’t care if he can’t technically play a position. I have a position for him: batter’s box!

  519. Dave October 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Why is Phil even in this game?

  520. Christina October 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Serf- Its called a meangingless game in October.

  521. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    So Bruney has had the best night on the mound so far? :shock:

  522. Brandon Awesome "BECAUSE I'M AWESOME!" October 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    “High-five Knicks on Miranda.

    Let’s hope Cash is smart and keeps him on the 40 man. Would hate gift-wrap that bat.”

    That’s the type of bat you don’t just give away. He’s not just all power, he works the count, hits to all fields, and that power in YS, can you imagine 4 – 4 btm of the 8th and his bat coming off the bench? Being 26 and no more than what 2 – 3 mil.

  523. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Yeah, it would have been nice to see a bit more of him. His bat is certainly very nice indeed, Bodhi.

  524. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Hmm, Phil struggled there……..but it is hard to get emotionally into a 12-3 game. Still, I’ll bet he’ll be disappointed in himself. What a dreadful game all around.

  525. Brandon Awesome "BECAUSE I'M AWESOME!" October 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    “He Cash! I don’t care if he can’t technically play a position. I have a position for him: batter’s box!”

    That has to be the quote of the night concerning Juan Miranda & 2011.

  526. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    To keep him fresh.

    He’ll likely pitch on Sunday, and then he won’t see the mound until Wednesday.

  527. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    No that Phil has given up a run, can he shave the “lucky” (re: disgusting) stache?

  528. Serf October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Meaningless, but I’m a stat freak. I want Hughes going into the playoffs and hearing the other teams broadcasters saying how awesome Hughes has been this year.

  529. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    pat
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
    So Bruney has had the best night on the mound so far?
    ****

    Yeah…..

    Its been THAT kind of night :-)

    On the other hand, I am glad I put Bruney on my postseason roster

  530. Bronx Jeers October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    I wish Miranda could play some OF? Or can he?

    He could take Hinske’s spot.

    Chad J. was actually talking up some Miranda possibilities a few nights ago.

  531. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    *Now ( not no)

  532. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Dave, Phil needs the work………….

  533. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    NYY626 – AL EAST CHAMPS!
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    No that Phil has given up a run, can he shave the “lucky” (re: disgusting) stache?
    ****

    Is that what that was??? I thought maybe he had lip fungus

  534. Yet another Red Sox championship coming up October 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    LOL. Cheeseburger, Cola Sabathia in fine October form as usual.

  535. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Serf, they still will……one bad outing in a blowout doesn’t mean anything. Still, everyone stank tonight……not pleasant at all.

  536. Brandon Awesome "BECAUSE I'M AWESOME!" October 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    “I wish Miranda could play some OF? Or can he?”

    He can play RF a bit I guess. Somewhere in Queens you can bet Omar Minaya is paying close attention.

  537. NYY626 - AL EAST CHAMPS! October 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Is that what that was??? I thought maybe he had lip fungus
    ________________________________________________________________
    I think I might rather it be a fungus than to know that he is voluntarily ruining his face

  538. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    So it looks like AJ has insisted on Molina.

    Looks like Cervelli is on roster.

    10 pitchers, no joba or gaudin.

    15 players inc. guzman, no pena unless hairston can’t go.

    Final?

  539. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    That’s the type of bat you don’t just give away. He’s not just all power, he works the count, hits to all fields, and that power in YS, can you imagine 4 – 4 btm of the 8th and his bat coming off the bench? Being 26 and no more than what 2 – 3 mil.
    ====

    One scout was asked if they bought his age…they said ‘Do you really think he’s 26? And the scout said, ‘hell, I don’t care if he’s 36….that guy has 30 HR power RIGHT NOW.”

    He does all of that as a hitter, and when he overcame his nemesis – hitting LHP, which was just a matter of time – he because serious business.

    I hope Cash agrees with us. IMO you can never have enough left-handed slug if you’re the Yankees, and with a bat like that….well, the imagination soars, doesn’t it?

    Somebody dubbed him “Juan & Gone…” Classic.

  540. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Sam needs to get Phil to explain why he insists on that growth on his upper lip – he looks like a dirty old man, lol.

    Did Robertson pitch tonight? Did he look like he should be put on the post-season roster? 2 appearances before the post-season doesn’t give me much confidence that he can get it done in a big spot – he’s not pitched basically in a long time.

  541. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Mick, you have no proof that AJ “insisted” on Molina……..

    Is this a mildly unsettling loss? I hate to admit it, but yes

  542. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    I wish Miranda could play some OF? Or can he?
    He could take Hinske’s spot.
    Chad J. was actually talking up some Miranda possibilities a few nights ago.
    =====

    LOL. Depends on your definition of “could”. Can Adam Dunn play the OF?

    I guess you might say, if he can hit 30 HR, he “could” play “some” OF.

    Heh heh…

  543. m October 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    There went Phil’s sub 3.0 ERA. Still amazing, though.

  544. JK October 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Miranda with major league protection would do damage in the majors. He has big lefty power and is very patient

  545. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    It is clear AJ has decided on Molina.

    That might limit him to game 3.

    Would actually prefer Andy in a pivotal game 3.

    Andy would then get games 2 & 5 instead of AJ.

    Otherwise AJ in 2 & 5 and No Matsui? Best clutch hitter IMO.

    Not sure I like it.

  546. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    One run brought his ERA up over 3.00? Aaww, oh well. He may get into the game on Sunday – we can’t have him going into the first ALDS game with too much rest.

  547. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    One run brought his ERA up over 3.00? Aaww, oh well. He may get into the game on Sunday – we can’t have him going into the first ALDS game with too much rest.

  548. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Twins tried coasting with a 10-0 lead, but, KC has scored 5 runs and have the bases loaded with 1 out in the 8th inning.

  549. Joe October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Robertson gave up 2 hits and a run

  550. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    It’s not clear to me, Mick……..and AJ doesn’t get to decide anything, no player does.

  551. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Just conjecture Betsy. Thinking out loud. What do you think?

  552. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Joe, thanks……..I can’t say I’m surprised as the guy has every right to be rusty, but it’s not very encouraging.

  553. Repko October 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    If Girardi does decide to go with Molina and AJ in the playoffs… you have to figure he made that determination after consulting Burnett. A manager isin’t just going to take his #5 hitter out of the lineup for an inferior player in the postseason.

  554. m October 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Nothing has been decided, and if such a decision is made, it’ll be the staff that did it.

    If they didn’t make the switch when it was clear that CC & AJ weren’t on the same page then they’re not going to do it now just because.

  555. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Where is the great SJ?
    Has anybody heard from him?
    Did he leave with Pete for Boston?
    I need to know.

  556. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Mick, I don’t know…….maybe I’m in denial. I really think it would be a bad move if Joe decided on Molina for AJ………

  557. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Get Kim Jones on the case.
    Is Tex hurt?

  558. Tom October 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    It is unsettling that CC got lit up 1 start before the playoffs, the offense has been cold for a while, and the relievers are kind of bleh.

    But get the slump out of our system now before next week….

  559. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    JK
    October 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
    Miranda with major league protection would do damage in the majors. He has big lefty power and is very patient

    ————————————————————

    Miranda is a defensive disaster at the only position that he can play and strikes out a ton. Would you like to discuss his problems with left handed pitchers. Jorge Vazquez is the same thing from the right side. He can’t hit right handers, nor can he play defense. He doesn’t walk at all, but, neither does he strike out. NYY is better off keeping Matsui and moving Miranda to another team.

  560. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Things are falling apart in Minnesota. Tying run at the plate…

  561. Carl October 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Looks like no one is winning 20 this year. Wainwrights pen failed him.

  562. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Sam got an email from SJ. He’s alive and well. The most interestng man in the world was serving up cervezas to the IOC. Stop worrying, he said he’ll be back for the playoffs. He said he’ll be behind home plate with the silk handkerchief in the breas pocket.

  563. REZ October 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    The team is on cruise control now. They will turn the switch on when the playoffs start. \

  564. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Minny score?

  565. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    10-7, 2 men on, 4 outs to go.

    sorry about the typos. stiff keys. 3 outs to go.

  566. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Thank you M.

    Since the demise of Pete, SJ has been scarce.

  567. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    REZ, that’s a dangerous game to play. This team doesn’t have the resume that other Yankee teams do. Mo and Andy do, of course, and so do Jeter and Posada, but even the latter two have struggled in recent playoffs. Heaven knows this is the best Yankee team in years, but they do have a lot to prove in the playoffs.

  568. NJ Yank October 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Just like AJ can make everyone forget about his mediocre regular season with a strong postseason and can be the toast of the town if he pitches a couple big games…. CC’s great regular season and good will with the media/fans can go up in smoke if he continues his poor postseason performances.

    Was tonight a blip? Or sign of things to come?

  569. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    “Minny score?”

    http://tinyurl.com/yze4akt

  570. E-gawa October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    CC was due for a bad start.. better now then in Game 1.

  571. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    I’m going to guess that SJ and CB will be back for the playoffs.

  572. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    GB7,

    Agree he’s an orphaned bat with no real defensive pedigree, but he really has conquered the LHP issues.

    He worked on it all off-season, and his numbers this year show virtually no difference batting vs. LHP and RHP:

    .289/.364/.504 vs. lefties
    .290/.371/.495 vs. righties

    I also would find a way to get that bat into the lineup. His power is devastating. He’s a lefty. No brainer. Find him a spot – even if it’s off the bench.

  573. Y 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Last time we lost with CC on the mound? In Tampa on July 28th.

    Joba pitched a gem the next day. AJ pitched a gem the previous day

  574. Pat M. October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    This game was over from the moment Texeria was drilled……

  575. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    He said he’ll be behind home plate with the silk handkerchief in the breas pocket.
    ====

    Lol. Another good reason to post here less and less.

  576. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Well, one thing is obvious. This Tampa Bay Devil Rays team was fired up. Looks like they were stewing ever since the last series.

    But GB7 is correct, Pena was injured in the act of swinging. Hardly headhunting there.

    Hopefully they got it out of their system.

    But I hate that they punched us in the mouth, and we didn’t fight back.

  577. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Is it true SJ and Pete have never been seen together?

  578. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Maddon likes to stick it to us.

    Makes him feel like a big league mgr.

    They will get even.

    If not this year then next.

  579. Erick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    “But I hate that they punched us in the mouth, and we didn’t fight back.”

    Same here, m…

  580. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    I was waiting for Anderson to run through the trash bag wall on that Mauer fly out.

  581. 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Havent seen SJ for weeks….

  582. Dan l. October 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Well, the team better snap out of it and find some intensity, or their playoff quest will be a short one. They probably thought they could turn it on in 06 and 07 too.

  583. 40 time October 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Maybe SJ has a life and doesn’t feel the need to post everyday on a Yankee blog?

    People do work and have families, you know….

  584. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    There is a conspiracy theory that Pete and SJ are the same person.

  585. Pat M. October 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Dan I. Snap out of what ????

  586. 27 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Like us?

  587. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Tex was nicked in the hand by that pitch. As crazy as it sounds. I think that threw the entire team off. No one expected it and they couldn’t do anything about it. Well revenge is best served cold.

  588. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Why should we fight back? The Rays are punks who are going home and have nothing to lose. The Yankees have bigger fish to fry and they can’t afford to brawl and get players hurt.

    Pat M, why do you think the game was lost when Tex was hit?

    This game had no redeeming value to it. Everyone pitched poorly (not encouraged by Robertson at all), including Phil (but no big deal), hit poorly…….Just an overall icky game. I can’t say I like how the team is hitting going into the playoffs.

  589. mick October 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Tonight was not the night for a fight.

    Yanks were smart to not get sucked in.

    Maddon would love to hurt us for the playoffs.

    Girardi will take care of him.

  590. Aww. October 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    SJ44 was in touch with Sam…he’ll be around for the playoffs.

  591. Rick D. October 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Technically. this was a big game. Despite what he said outwardly, EVERY pitcher wants 20 wins. Girardi said all the “A” guys in the pen would be used, and he had a mostly A lineup. CC probably put too much pressure on himself to win 20 and came out too strong as a result. His command was all over the place.

    If you look at his past playoff starts, and even other big games (opening day in BAL this yr), his always-excellent command suddenly becomes very shaky. Tonight we saw it again.

    I don’t think the problem is that CC didn’t have intensity and treated this like a ST start… I think the problem was he treated this like a big game and wanted the 20 wins, as a result, he didn’t pitch well.

    He wouldn;t be the first excellent pitcher to be less than average in big games…

  592. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    What’s up with Joe? He seems sort of abrupt in the post-game show….

  593. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Who cares about the loser Rays. The Yanks have better things to worry about. The Rays have shown when they are not competitive they start with the Yanks and Sox(the big boys) for some excitement. They don’t know how to just lose with class. But it was totally uncalled for in what Price that nobody did.

  594. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Judging my Joe’s answer I think he thought it was intentional. Very short answer.

  595. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Betsy- He is angry that his first baseman was hit. And he knows his team can’t do anything about it.

  596. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    LOL. I don’t mean literally fight back. You know, fight back. Everyone but Juan Miranda and Bruney folded like a cheap tent. Just kidding.

    Joe could be abrupt because that was an embarrasing game, top to bottom.

  597. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    It still wouldn’t surprise me if Burnett buzzes someone tomorrow.

  598. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    What’s up with Joe?
    ————————–

    That is how he acts when he is pissed and doesn’t want to answer the question. You could tell he was not happy about Tex getting hit, but wasn’t going to get into it.

  599. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Trevor- He pitches Sunday, and you can be sure he’ll tell AJ not to do anything. We have bigger fish to fry. Believe you me, I’d love if they were able to drill someone. But it isn’t worth someone on the Yankees getting hurt and missing any games in the post season. Let those moron rays enjoy golfing. We’ll have the last laugh.

  600. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Jen, that’s what I think, too………What a punk bunch of losers. I really worry about Tex in this series now…….the Rays actually seem like they want to hurt him

  601. m October 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Minny wins. Now, they’re only 1 GB.

  602. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Girardi said that Tex was hit in his hand. I hope that it’s not bad and he can still play tomorrow. Girardi said that Tex wants to play in all 3 games.

  603. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Agreed, Jen…….AJ can’t worry about this. The fact is, the Rays are going home, lol. They can have their jollies now, but they are going home to a looooong off-season. AJ has to concentrate on prepping for his first post-season start, nothing else.

  604. EY October 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I just went to my first Tigers game after moving to the area…a devastating loss against the White Sox. The way I see it is, whether it’s the Tigers or Twins, we have nothing to worry about. The Tigers offense is practically non-existent outside of Miguel Cabrera…Ordonez is a ghost of his former self. They also have no pitching after Verlander, who will be totally exhausted just trying to pitch his team into the playoffs this Sunday – yes, I am throwing Edwin Jackson under the bus too.

    I see nothing to fret about CC’s performance today – let him get some kinks out of his sytem – better now than next week. Our worst will still outperform the best from either AL Central teams.

  605. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Man…Zito just got smoked by a liner back through the box by Adrian Gonzales. It hit him just above the wrist and just below the elbow. He’s finished for the year. It raised a knot in about 5 seconds.

  606. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma October 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Well wow. Just tuned in to find that there was quite the lopsided score in Tampa. I had company all night and had no idea what teams were winning and which were losing. Unless any Yankee player got injured tonight I would think that people may be disappointed but are not at all worried.

    Anyway, I just saw Trevor’s post since it was the last one here when I started to post. Isn’t AJ pitching Sunday?

    At this point I see Minny is definitely going to make this weekend a thriller. I’m also happy to see that the Rocks are leading the Dodgers. May it last. I will now post the updates to the prediction charts.

  607. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Lots of balls hit up the middle and hitting pitchers this year. Particularly in the last week. WOW. Sad he seemed to have a really good season, tough way to end it.

  608. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Any payback will come on Sunday in the late innings by a pitcher not on the post season roster if they are thinking with their heads.

  609. Erica - always OPPC October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Bed time. Good night Yankee people!!

  610. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    “I really worry about Tex in this series now”

    Why?

    “the Rays actually seem like they want to hurt him”

    I’ll say, since they threw at his head. They’re 1 hit wonders anyway. Ignore them.

  611. Chris G October 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Really enjoying the blog. You guys are doing better then Pete.

  612. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Kay said that before the game the Rays were joking around saying that they will walk Tex in every at bat so that he doesn’t pass Pena in home runs. The fact that they are talking about it is pathetic and cause for a little concern on the Yanks part. If he did hit a homerun then Girardi better get him out of the game asap. lol

  613. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Yep it only missed his head cause he kinda shrugged his shoulders.

  614. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    100 pitches of fun…

    I know pathetic right.

  615. Betsy October 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    Wow 100 pitches – that’s sad. I hope Tex hits one through the ceiling – what the heck? This is what they are reduced to? The Rays have an awful lot of talent, but they are an immature bunch of clowns with an awful lot to learn.

  616. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma October 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART

    Uncle Ellsworth – 106 :(
    Saucy – 106 :(
    Swing Brett Gardner – 106 :(
    M – 106 :(
    L to the 2nd – 105 :(
    Rishi – 105 :(
    TJ – 105 :(

    Upstate Kate – 105 :(
    NYY626 – 105 :(
    Frank from Chatham – 105
    The Cro – 105 :(
    Ed – 105 :(
    Vin – 104
    Noreaster – 104
    Fran – 104

    Erica – 104

  617. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    On the replay it showed the ball hitting him just below the crock of the arm and on the inside of the arm and not bone. X-rays coming. He was just regaining some speed, but, I doubt he ever gets back to 90 MPH again. Something went wrong in his career, somewhere. When he first came up, I thought he might be a left handed version of Maddux. Everything just fell apart.

  618. Trevor (Super Mario) October 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    How do the Tigers not sell out theses important games? Half of Comerica looks empty.
    At least the Metrodome is full.

  619. pat October 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    So the Tigers are putting their fate in the hands of someone named Alfredo Figaro with a 5 plus ERA tomorrow? Should I know who he is?

    I say Go Freddy Garcia!

  620. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma October 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Sorry if this was already posted.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  621. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    hitting him just below the ***crook*** of the arm

  622. jennifer October 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Did I miss the interview with tex?

  623. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma October 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
    (CURRENTLY STANDS AT 102 WINS)
    Created on April 6, 2009
    poster # of games

    TOMPASS 124 :(
    S.O.S. 118 :(
    ROB THOMPSON 110 :(
    *RAYVT 107 :(
    #2 FOR PREZ 106 :(
    *ANGEL 105 :(
    PEL 105 :(
    BACKBENCH 105 :(
    *TOM B 104
    DR. COX 104
    TRISHA 103
    VSPOT 103
    KEVIN IN CT 102
    NICK IN SF 102
    YANKEESJTJ 102
    GLOBAL WARMING 102
    MG 102
    THE PREDIKTER 101 :(
    *L-tothe2ND 101 :(
    LORI 100 :(
    MEL 100 :(
    TEX’S NEW BF 100 :(
    PATRICK 100 :(
    *ERICA 100 :(
    BARDOS 99 :(
    VIN 99 :(
    JENNIFER 99 :(
    ED 99 :(
    *NYY626 99 :(
    DT 99 :(
    *STEVE-B 99 :(
    LAURA 98 :(
    PETE ABE 98 :(
    RISHI 98 :(
    RUSSW210 98 :(
    CLAYB 98 :(
    DOREEN 98 :(
    RB15 98 :(
    TOM IN NJ 97 :(
    FRAN 97 :(
    S.A. 97 :(
    HOKIEHILL 97 :(
    UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97 :(
    GAYLE 96 :(
    PAT 96 :(
    WESTERNER99 96 :(
    PSYLUCK 96 :(
    STEVEB 96 :(
    MICHAEL KAY 96 :(
    JOHN IN OHIO 95 :(
    MARK 95 :(
    B-DAVE 94 :(
    *WAIT TIL THEY COME 94 :(

    * added 7/29 or later

  624. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Teixeira isn’t just going for the 40 homers….but, the RBI title and Bay had 1 tonight to close within 4. Alson, Bay is two homers back and Lind and Hill are about 3 back.

  625. GreenBeret7 October 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    ***Also***, Bay is two homers

  626. 100 pitches of fun... October 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    So the Tigers are putting their fate in the hands of someone named Alfredo Figaro with a 5 plus ERA tomorrow? Should I know who he is?
    —————————–

    This is all you need to know.

    “Alfredo Figaro will make his first start in three months in the thick of a pennant race on the next-to-last day of the regular season” LOL

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    great. miss pete already.

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