Game 161: Yankees at Rays
Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Oct 03, 2009 
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YANKEES (102-58)
Gardner CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Hinske 3B
Hairston SS
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (14-7, 4.11)
RAYS (83-77)
Bartlett SS
Crawford LF
Longoria 3B
Zobrist 1B
Upton CF
Kapler RF
Burrell DH
Navarro C
Iwamura 2B
Pitching: RHP Jeff Niemann (12-6, 3.94)
TIME: 7:08, YES.
WEATHER: Other than a few cowbells and bird noises, pretty temperate.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees look to keep Andy Pettitte and A.J. Burnett in top form after Friday’s night rough start for CC Sabathia (2.2 IP, 9 R, 8 H, 5 BB). Pettitte takes the ball tonight. Pettitte has lost just once since July 25.
HIGH TEIX: Mark Teixeira, who is tied for first in the AL with 39 HR and first in RBI with 121, is only the third first-year player in club history to reach those power totals. You may know the others: Babe Ruth (54 HR, 136 RBI) in 1920 and Jason Giambi (41 HR, 122 RBI) in 2002.
THE 900 CLUB: The Yanks now have 902 runs, marking the 16th time in franchise history they have scored 900 or more. It’s also the third time this decade.
DELIGHTING IN THE LONG BALL: Juan Miranda jacked his first homer of his career last night. It also happened to match a team milestone. The homer was No. 242 for the club, matching its previous high set in 2004. It is their ninth 200-homer season this decade. That said, Elias Sports Bureau says the Yankees haven’t ended a season as MLB’s outright home run champ since 1961 (read: Maris and Mantle).
(FADING) RAYS OF LIGHT: The season is almost over for last year’s darling, but Friday night was a record-setting one for the Rays. The otherwise disappointing B.J. Upton went 5 for 5 with six RBI and hit for the cycle. He was the first player in franchise history to hit for the cycle; tied the club record for hits; and set a career-high for RBI. … The Rays also became the eighth team in MLB history to win 180 games over two seasons after losing 180 the two seasons before.
HANDICAPPING THE AL CENTRAL: In the Who-Plays-The-Yankees race, Detroit sends rookie Alfredo Figaro (1-2, 5.74) against Chicago’s Freddy Garcia (2-4, 4.78), while the Twins, down a game, send Nick Blackburn (11-11, 4.08) on three-days rest against Kansas City ace and future Cy Young winner Zack Greinke (16-8, 2.06).
UPDATE, 6:27 p.m.: Wow, things are getting awfully tight in Minnesota, where the Twinkies squandered a 4-0 lead on the Royals. This much you cannot dispute: If they throw away a four-run lead against Zack Grienke and lose, they may want to forget about tomorrow.
Down here in St. Pete, as the Yankees await their opponent, pregame news turned to Joba Chamberlain, who will likely pitch out of the bullpen tomorrow, Joe Girardi announced today. Is it in preparation for serious October bullpen work or an audition to prove he warrants a postseason roster spot? And are those two mutually exclusive or one in the same?
Stay tuned. Audio to follow shortly.
UPDATE, 6:40 p.m.: Girardi pregame audio has arrived. It’s 13 minutes long, and about eight minutes in he talks about deploying Chamberlain out of the bullpen tomorrow and what it would mean for the coming week:
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UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: Twins win, 5-4. It won’t be decided today — or without Justin Verlander.
UPDATE, 7:18 p.m.: Just want to set up a few things to expect personnel-wise tonight.
Pettitte is on the same 85-90 pitch count that Sabathia was on yesterday before ineffectiveness changed things. … Also, Girardi would like to use Aceves and Gaudin tonight after pitching the majority of his key relievers on Friday. … Expect many of the regulars in the lineup to take two or three at-bats before heading to the bench. … Robertson will almost certainly pitch tomorrow. He has felt healthy since returning but has yet to pitch twice in a three-day span. “I want to see how he bounces back,” Girardi said. “He’s had no issues, which is good, but you want to make sure.”
Two more quick items: Although it seems set in stone, Girardi said he wants to see which opponent the Yanks will face before deciding on his Game 2 starter. Obviously the Twins are much more left-hand dominant than the Tigers. … Also, the audio may be tough to hear at times. That’s because the workout was attended by a few dozen minor leaguers, who were in Tampa for a workout today and were invited to the game by the club. Several (if not most) of them had pictures taken with players, especially Jeter and A-Rod. Girardi received plenty of love, too.
UPDATE, 8:22 p.m.: Are you worried about Johnny Damon? He has not homered since Aug. 30th and has now whiffed 18 times in his last 83 AB. He told us today he has taken his walks (14 over that same span), but the hits have not been there.
Damon mentioned the expanded strike zone the Yankees have seen in these recent meaningless games, which has led to him swinging at pitches he simply shouldn’t swing at. But how long has this been a factor? Maybe a week, tops.
That said, Damon is an experienced October hand who, if healthy, may find himself invigorated by postseason baseball. After all, he has 180 postseason ABs already, more than both A-Rod and Matsui.
Anyway, here’s what Johnny said: “I’ve been in this situation before. It might be a blessing that this slump is going on right now. Hopefully that means a lot of hits are coming my way, hopefully on Wednesday. I feel great (physically). I’ll just keep plugging and try to get that perfect swing again.”
UPDATE, 9:05 p.m.: The line on Pettitte — 4.1 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 1 K. He left in line for the loss, which would be his second in three starts. His last — on Sept. 21 in Anaheim — is his only loss since July 25.
Pettitte threw 95 pitches, a few more than Girardi said he would. He probably didn’t deserve to allow five runs (thanks to a bad throw by Aceves), but Pettitte struggled with location. He walked four and threw just 54 pitches for strikes.
UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: So I’ve been working on the story about Joba for tomorrow’s paper. Question: Because he has pitched so well in relief (48 Ks, 9 BB, 23 H in 35.1 IP — 1.02 ERA) would you trust him in the playoffs?
I think it’s interesting because fans have very fairly deemed him untrustworthy as a starter. Any faith he can flip that switch?
UPDATE, 10:13 p.m.: White Sox win, AL Central is tied.
What a collapse by Detroit. Verlander must save the day.
In other news, Yankees drop their third straight, lose 5-3 to the Rays. Nothing too exciting happened, but I’ll have plenty of postgame tidbits to report. Check out for news updates on Twitter at LoHudYankees.
YEAH!
ITS RAINING!
Hope blackburn likes pressure…
What kind of lineup is this for this must win game? Where is Damon? A-Rod? Jeter?
I just hope the Rays don’t try anything with Tex or anyone else. If they do, if I’m Joe, I pull the team…….
Last thing I want to do is face a red hot Twins team, who would be on a 2007 Rockies=type run coming to play us. You also have to believe the 7-0 record will fire them up.
I’d rather face a reeling Tigers team with tired arms and no bullpen…..
Joe D.
October 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Last thing I want to do is face a red hot Twins team, who would be on a 2007 Rockies=type run coming to play us. You also have to believe the 7-0 record will fire them up.
I’d rather face a reeling Tigers team with tired arms and no bullpen…..
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I am with you. Sign me up for the Tigers
I have serious reservations about Notre Dame…I swore I’d stay away from them after they laid an egg a few weeks ago…….
The Yankees can beat anyone…….I don’t care who they play, just beat that team. There are no excuses – the Yankees have been the best team in baseball for most of the season and they just can’t get knocked out in the first round again.
The only team that can beat the Yankees are the Yankees themselves. If they play as they’re capable if, doesn’t matter who they’re facing
I just don’t understand why fans don’t want to face major leagues best teams, at their best. I don’t like the sound of a headline title “Yanks beat Detroits tired arms.” “Detroit looked better than ever in the playoffs, but are still succumb to the Yanks greatness” is more like it!
Come on people!
“The Yankees can beat anyone…….I don’t care who they play, just beat that team. There are no excuses – the Yankees have been the best team in baseball for most of the season and they just can’t get knocked out in the first round again.”
That would be true if the best-of-5 was based on talent. It isn’t. One bad pitcher has a good game or one good pitcher has a bad game and the series can flip upside down. Being the best team in baseball for the regular seasons means nothing. If our offense continues to be sluggish or our starters don’t get it done, we’ll go home.
I won’t pick a team to win the AL Central,just hope they heavily expend their players,and bull pen trying to get to the ALS.
“I won’t pick a team to win the AL Central,just hope they heavily expend their players,and bull pen trying to get to the ALS.”
a one game playoff would be really nice wouldn’t it.
Pat M.
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I have serious reservations about Notre Dame…I swore I’d stay away from them after they laid an egg a few weeks ago…….
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Never dismiss Notre Dame. Remember this:
“Outlined against a blue-gray October sky the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death.”
Once again, they’ll be raging like a prairie fire, consuming everything in their wake.
everything in their ***path***.
Sounds real good GB, but they better cover the 12.5 points…..And I’m an Irish / Italian Catholic
The Yankees can beat anyone. If I have a preference it would be Detroit, but only because I really don’t want to have to deal with whiny Twins fans anymore this year. Teams whose fans have the biggest and most unjustified chips on their shoulders especially when it comes to the Yankees? The Minnesota Twins.
18 comments in an hour plus…this blog is falling off…wheres sj and cb
“That would be true if the best-of-5 was based on talent. It isn’t. One bad pitcher has a good game or one good pitcher has a bad game and the series can flip upside down. Being the best team in baseball for the regular seasons means nothing. If our offense continues to be sluggish or our starters don’t get it done, we’ll go home.”
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I don’t think Betsy guaranteed that the team would definitely win, just that given what they’ve shown this year they CAN beat anyone. Which is a perfectly accurate statement. A reality check she is not in need of.
Pat M.
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Sounds real good GB, but they better cover the 12.5 points…..And I’m an Irish / Italian Catholic
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Never fear. I have faith in Parsegian.
Tate is Golden.
Man ! this is going to be a close game in Minn. Both pitchers are nasty.
St. Ara
Azaz
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
18 comments in an hour plus…this blog is falling off…wheres sj and cb
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Oh for goodness sake. I enjoy their posts a lot, but they’re not the ONLY posters in this comment section either. There are plenty of people who post often and contribute besides them.
Shake down the thunder from the sky.
good game going on b/w blackburn and greinke
Things to make you feel good.
Dodgers are in big trouble in the postseason. Manny,since the All Star break is 4 for 31,batting .216,struck out 4 x’s last night,was booed coming to the plate and from the plate.
Their#2 pitcher out with bulging disc in his neck.
Question,isn’t it time for Manny to go on his late in the season strike? Bwahahah!!
How many pitches will Leyland make Verlander throw tomorrow if they need the game? 150?
Twins are really starting to scare me… maybe we’ll be better off with Detroit after all. know they have good pitching but they are ice cold and they have no pen…
on yankeeography steinbrenner almost bought the indians
woooooooooooow
Who cares which team the Yankees face. This race between the Twins and Tigers is providing an advantage for the Yankees. I hope they have a tie breaker game on Tuesday.
it was true
jp the ex gm of the jays would lose his job if he didnt trade halladay it appears from rumblings
Joba to the pen for the ALDS? Maybe. The club has reconsidered and may use him for a couple batters or an inning of relief tomorrow. 7 mins ago
From Sam’s Twitter
The Rays were never marketed correctly since day one. How does last year’s AL champions fall short of a sellout by 14,269 last night with the top drawing road team in baseball (Yankees) in for a series ? No possible chance of a rainout and lots of parking available. Outrageous !
Even when the Rays were a perennial last place team the Yankees would draw nearly 30,000 for all visits.
??????
“18 comments in an hour plus…this blog is falling off…wheres sj and cb”
sj44 told sam he was busy with business and will be back for the playoffs.
i think sj 44and cb are two of the two best posters and i look forward to their comments. hopefully they’ll both continue here.
it’s kind of natural for the blog to lose a little steam with the division being locked up with a week to go.
i have no doubt when the playoffs start that there will be non stop posting.
Doesn’t matter who the Yanks face. If CC, AJ and Andy pitch well they will win. Yanks have excellent hitters and they can hit anyone.
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
“18 comments in an hour plus…this blog is falling off…wheres sj and cb”
sj44 told sam he was busy with business and will be back for the playoffs.
i think sj 44and cb are two of the two best posters and i look forward to their comments. hopefully they’ll both continue here.
it’s kind of natural for the blog to lose a little steam with the division being locked up with a week to go.
i have no doubt when the playoffs start that there will be non stop posting.
*****
Would you like me to post some fun random gibberish for the sport of posting??
I am actually a little frightened by the idea of what type of quality of posts there are going to be during the playoffs.
I would think if the Yanks don’t come roaring out of the gate I think we are instantly going to get bombed with trolls and bridgejumpers
Nick Blackburn(Twins) is pitching on 3 days rest,trying to just get to postseason.He’ll be tired. He’s 77 pitches through 6 innings.
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
“18 comments in an hour plus…this blog is falling off…wheres sj and cb”
sj44 told sam he was busy with business and will be back for the playoffs.
i think sj 44and cb are two of the two best posters and i look forward to their comments. hopefully they’ll both continue here.
it’s kind of natural for the blog to lose a little steam with the division being locked up with a week to go.
i have no doubt when the playoffs start that there will be non stop posting.
*****
Would you like me to post some fun random gibberish for the sport of posting??
I am actually a little frightened by the idea of what type of quality of posts there are going to be during the playoffs.
I would think if the Yanks don’t come roaring out of the gate I think we are instantly going to get bombed with trolls and bridgejumpers
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The last three days of posts, as idiotic as they have been, is mild compared to what’s ahead. As usual, no attempt will be made to curtail the trollism. Quantity over quality. Quality = good reading. Quantity = money.
GB7-
Well, that exactly it. I would rather read 4 posts of yours with quality and insight spread over an hour or two than 50 posts in an hour of crap like “Bruney Sucks”, “This is a must win game” or the always popular post of “What is this line up”.
Randy I ( The Original T
Oh- By the way….
Tonight is a MUST win game… hehehehe
“I would think if the Yanks don’t come roaring out of the gate I think we are instantly going to get bombed with trolls and bridgejumpers”
Unfortunately, you are correct.
“Would you like me to post some fun random gibberish for the sport of posting??”
erica-
i thought that’s what you’ve been doing
just kidding.
it won’t be pretty on the blog if the yankees don’t win and keep winning.
i think the key is sabathia getting off to a good start and winning that first game.
Free blogs work the best. When you start censoring and limiting access than it all goes downhill.
I think the comments have dropped because there’s not a whole lot to discuss at this point. That’s at least my reason for not posting. These are like spring training games getting ready for the season.
Once we get back to competitive/meaningful games I think the blog will pick up more. Of course, that’s assuming the coverage is just as good if not better than Petes.
Tonight is a must win game, so I would vastly prefer to not see Brian Bruney (he sucks). The lineup is therefore disconcerting.
On the way to Berkeley, California for what I hope will be an epic matchup.
Go Yankees and Go California Golden Bears!
Go Twins!
mauer with bigtime clutch hit of grienke
Mauer singles to right
1-0 Twins (6th inning)
Randy I, Sorry about the aborted post..What I was attempting to say, is that you need to carry the load…As for trollism, GB does a great job chasing away the nut jobs at night…Very entertaining in fact……So if the Tweekies & The Tigers are in this position tomorrow, that means Baker & Verlander take the mounnd ????
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Oh- By the way….
Tonight is a MUST win game… hehehehe
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Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
1-0 Twins Greinke blinked first!
Yeah the Twins are scary !
wow…delmon young clears the bases! 3 run double. 4-0 twinkies
WOW!!! Greinke and his defense have come apart. He still deserves the Cy Young, though.
Twins!!
Yikes. Gotta feel for Greinke.
He was one strike away from having an ERA under 2.00
4-0 Twins
4-0 Twins off the CY contender,bwahahah!
Greinke after 6, 96 pitches,Blackburn only 77.
Joltin Joe Mauer. Giver that guy the MVP already.
Let’s go twins. Yipes, as I type, KC on the board. But a 4 spot on Greinke is huge and KC’s offence is weak and unlikely to make a huge run.
who had “four runs in the sixth off Greinke” in the pool?
(Yeah, nobody did, that’s what I thought…)
If the Twins win, then Detroit, does Verlander pitch tomorrow?
Felix Hernandez – CY Young
You head it here first. He’s got one more game to lower his 2.48 era and add another win to his already 18-5 record. That W-L% happens to lead the league, btw.
Twins are a motivated team! Good for them.
Greinke still gets the Cy (IMO). Good for him.
And tell ya what. As brave and confident as I am all the time, I would be puking it if came down to the last game of the season, no matter who the competition was!
Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
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Let’s see: Melky sucks and needs to lose weight, why isn’t Gardner the starter in CF?
and…
I don’t see how this team can beat Boston, which is built for the playoffs….
That oughta do it.
Bwahahah,Greinke out of the game after 6(to protect the ERA for CY.)
Blacknbrn 86 pitches ,1 run 58 strikes after 7,on 3 days rest.
bod -
who is pitching tomorrow?
so it looks like the twins are gonna win, is it better for th yankees for the tigers to win tonight or lose?
which is better, seeing verlander wednesday on 9 day’s rest or on friday on regular rest?
im hoping they save verlander and have to use him in the playoff on tuesday.
All week Greinke was running his mouth on nesn.com.
He said the Yankees should want to play the Twins,because they match up better with them.
Twins blowing it
i feel like this is karma for the announcers lauding carl pavano….
bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
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Let’s see: Melky sucks and needs to lose weight, why isn’t Gardner the starter in CF?
and…
I don’t see how this team can beat Boston, which is built for the playoffs….
That oughta do it.
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If the internet had come along 80 years earlier, you would have heard:
Ruth is a lush, fat and over rated, Gehrig isn’t sick, he’s just washed up and the ‘roids wore off, Dimaggio is a jerk and couldn’t play in the Boston outfield. Mantle is a drunken bum with no talent for anything but hitting cheap home runs in a band box.
“Randy I, Sorry about the aborted post..What I was attempting to say, is that you need to carry the load”
pat m-
i though you were trying to say i was a model t or mr t. either way gb7 was going to have a field day with it
there’s no replacing sb44 or cb for knowledge of the game combined with the ability to articulate it.
i’ll be glad when they’re back.
the blog will go on either way, but there’s no denying they were a big part of the blog.
GreenBeret7
Mantle doesn’t have 2 bad knees, hes like Cano, just lazy.
Hey guys. When’s pete coming back from vacation?
Not sure what Charlie Weiss told his Irish in the locker room at halftime, but, I’m sure that it won’t be as remembered as Rockne’s speach. The defense came completely apart.
john October 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Hey guys. When’s pete coming back from vacation?
Never
Wow!!! The Twins are gonna blow it!!!
speach
***speech***
Twins come back ! I knew it.
GreenBeret7
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
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You forgot Posada doesn’t know how to call a game.
Personally, I hate when he lays down the sign for a home run
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
GreenBeret7
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
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You forgot Posada doesn’t know how to call a game.
Personally, I hate when he lays down the sign for a home run
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Especially after signalling for 3 straight intentional walks.
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
“Would you like me to post some fun random gibberish for the sport of posting??”
erica-
i thought that’s what you’ve been doing
just kidding.
it won’t be pretty on the blog if the yankees don’t win and keep winning.
*****
Hahahaha. You are sooooo funny Randy. I’ll tell you what. As a gesture of good will, I won’t even point out the giant mistake/typo in your reply to me that made you comment a huge oxymoron
Next time anyone feels like complaining about our bullpen, take a look at some of these other bullpens and compare. Phil Coke is starting to look like Goose Gossage.
Joba in relief
GreenBeret7
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
GreenBeret7
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Sabathia is an overrated choking bum and is no ace. Jeter is overrated and has no range. Cano is a lazy choker. Roidriguez can’t play with his juice. I want Joe Torre.
Did I miss anything?
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You forgot Posada doesn’t know how to call a game.
Personally, I hate when he lays down the sign for a home run
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Especially after signalling for 3 straight intentional walks.
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Well now I am angry just thinking about it. Quick, tell Girardi to change the line up and have Molina catch.
Pavano has pitched very well against us this year. He won’t be any easier than facing Verlander. He’ll have an axe to grind as well.
And I think Baker/Blackburn are better than the current version of Jackson and Porcello.
Girardi said yesterday that Joba threw too many pitches in his last start to pitch out of the bullpen in the tampa series. Why did he change his mind now?
“Joba in relief”
91 MPH fastballs, flat sliders and walks coming out of the pen
YIIPPPEEEE!!!!!
Looks like Greinke’s Cy Young chances won’t take a hit, as he’s bailed out.
Randy I, Do not sell yourself short by any means……As I see it, you’re right there with anyone who posts, or has posted in the 3 plus years I’ve hanging out here……
So Verlander will pitch tomorrow right?
JJ
lol
What happened to pete? I thought this was the chap that covered for pete on vacations?
Yup, Verlander’s pitching tomorrow. So if we play the Tigers (they could easily choke here), Game 1 becomes huge– you don’t want to be down a game then get Verlander…Pitch big CC!
There you go Twinkies, now that’s the kinda sugar papa likes!
The Great Greinke beaten,by a guy on 3 days rest.
The ball swings to Detroit.
JJ
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
“Joba in relief”
91 MPH fastballs, flat sliders and walks coming out of the pen
YIIPPPEEEE!!!!!
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You’re too intelligent for this board. The Mensa board is looking for people to raise their IQ levels.
Wow, what a game!
“Joba in relief”
91 MPH fastballs, flat sliders and walks coming out of the pen
YIIPPPEEEE!!!!!
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And don’t forget about of those exciting 3-2 counmts to opposing hitters.
Fantastic – nice to see the Tigers having to play some serious games on the final weekend. I hate the 5 game series, and a tired and worn down opponent would be perfect!
Pete took a kind-of-permanent vacation to the Boston Globe, where he’ll start to work as a Red Sox beat writer in a week or so. Sam Borden and Chad Jennings (with an assist from Josh) will take over on this blog.
Twins winning today is *huge* – because the Tigers pitch Verlander tomorrow, the Yankees can win the series in 4 without having to beat Verlander. Not seeing him Games 3 or 4 gives the Yankees a terrific chance to win at least one game in Detroit. Plus, this probably means Edwin Jackson starts Game 1, and he’s been TERRIBLE lately.
Verlander pitching on short rest ? The pressure is now on Detroit.
Twins= GUTSY
Haha, zebras bail out Washington. Told my son (pointing at Charlie Weiss), “Did you ever wonder what a mad whale looks like?”
This year keeps getting better and better, now if only there can be a one game playoff on Tuesday!
so if Joba pitches a 1-2-3 inning tomororw, they are going to use him in a big spot in the postseason?
“As a gesture of good will, I won’t even point out the giant mistake/typo in your reply to me that made you comment a huge oxymoron ”
erica,
you mean like military intelligence or square circle?
ok , run it by me.
just try to put in simple language that someone like me can understand
I don’t get why people are rooting for the Twins? I guess to push the Tigers, but the Twinkies get in to the playoffs, they will be a tough out. Sure the Yanks beat them up this season, but most of the games were ridiculously close. Plus, forget their no -name staff – that doesn’t matter. What matters is that they are getting quality pitching performances from everyone and that has to be respected. It would be a nightmare scenario if Pavano, who was terrific against us twice, beat us in the playoffs. I will say that the Twins don’t have the best playoff history, but they are certainly not a team to be taken lightly
Now the Tigers/White Sox game will be on MLB network. This is so exciting.
Rex.
Any other thoughts re:FSU/BC on two “inept” offenses in a driving rain storm??
This eve 5-star, Tulsa/Rice Over 62.5
Great day.
PAT M. I hope you took the BC Over.
-dennis
what is an Alfredo Figaro and why is he pitching such an important game for the Tigers? That tells me the Tigers arex in a really bad way when it comes to pitching right now.
there is a really good chance the Tigers and Twins have a playoff on Tuesday but in any of these events, the Yankees will have a huge advantage in the ALDS, all they have to do is play their game.
Betsy, I’m just looking for a tired pitching staff for the Yankees to face…so right now the Twins are behind, so GO TWINS!
Hahaha Randy-
You said this:
“it won’t be pretty on the blog if the yankees don’t win and keep winning.”
Need I say more?
Gary, I don’t think Joba would have earned, based on 1 good outing, a big spot over Robertson (though I have my doubts given that I think he’ll be rusty AND he’s never been there before)…….and certainly not Phil. One outing really won’t tell us much of anything.
The only way this really benefits us is if there is a playoff on Tuesday or Minnesota wins the division outright tomorrow.
Otherwise, yes, we don’t face Verlander in game 1 but we still face him potentially twice in the series. It also really puts the pressure on us in game 1 considering we’ll have a pretty significant advantage. That is a house money game for DET. If they ever win that game, then they send Verlander against Andy/AJ in game 2.
So essentially all this does is push Verlander back a day if the Tigers clinch the division tomorrow.
Neil, how do you get the idea Verlander won’t pitch in any of the first 4 games? He’d pitch in game two….
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
“As a gesture of good will, I won’t even point out the giant mistake/typo in your reply to me that made you comment a huge oxymoron ”
erica,
you mean like military intelligence or square circle?
ok , run it by me.
just try to put in simple language that someone like me can understand
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This one’s just too easy. I’ll let Erica field this.
Betsy,
Both the Tigers and Twins are slightly above average teams. I would rather face the team that is playing way over their heads and is due for some losses than the team that is probably due for some wins.
Also, as great as the Twins pitching has been lately, they have faced the Tigers and Royals offense the last 10 games. I think facing the Yankees at YS might be a wake-up call for them.
Thanks, for that Josh. Hard to say if they’re one and the same. You want to take your best 10-11 pitchers. It can be argued that he’s not included in that group. Are we talking Joba, Gaudin, and Bruney for 2 spots? Can’t imagine a world where they leave him off the roster after spending the last half-season inning-pinching so that he can pitch in the post season.
Verlander will be pitching tomorrow on his normal 4 days rest. He last pitched Tuesday 9/29 vs. Minn.
If the Tigers lose a game then the Tigers are really screwed.
Rain delay in Detroit.
I just keep saying, stay away from the Homer Dome, and beware of the law of averages…..I rather have the depleted Tigers….
Another thing to factor too about the Tigers and Twins, both are going all out just to get in.
We may get a team that takes a deep breath and are just happy to be there.
Great pass in the end zone, Claussen to Rudolph. ND up 28-27 with a minute and 20 seconds left. Two point conversion on the ground.
Now 30-27 ND.
And for the record-
I am very glad MPB Johnny Damon is in the line up tonight
Justin Verlander had a 1-1 record against the Yanks this season. Neither game was a blowout. Yankees can obviously beat Verlander. He’s not a cakewalk, but he’s beatable.
I don’t care which team we face but
Betsy, as I pointed out yesterday to Bod I’d prefer to face the Tigers because I don’t want to feel bad beating Minny. I won’t feel bad beating the Tigers.
Lets go Yankees
Detroit was in a similar position in 06… they worked hard just to get in and their rotation was in shambles… Nate Robertson started game 1 for them. They ended up beating us.
That game 2 where Mussina turned a 3-1 lead into a 4-3 deficit was the turning point. We could have gone to Detroit up 2-0, instead it was 1-1 with old man Randy and his bad back in 45 degree weather in Detroit. With Jaret Wright behind him.
I just don’t get the rooting for the Twins. There is no guarantee that they will look like the team that faced the Yankees throughout the season.
I never could see rooting for one team who might face the Yankees over another. Like say a few years ago when it was the Tigers that everyone seemed to want to win so the Yankees could face them. How did that work out?
nice start gardy….2 for his last 2
No more doubt about Hinske being on the roster. Girardi looped him in with Gardner and Molina as a guys he wants to get ABs this weekend. 55 mins ago
You can all rest easy about Hinske being on the roster…
Betsy, JMO but if the Yanks play their game nobody is going to beat them, meaning they WILL win their series’.
That’s precisely why I don’t really care who they end up facing. Just bring ‘em on. (I mean the feeling bad for the team factor aside.)
Nice way to start the game.
There’s too many what if’s to think about when looking at which of the Tigers or Twins is the better matchup. So, I’ll go with the rotation that doesn’t have Verlander in it.
And if he’s not going on Wednesday, that means he’ll face up against someone not named CC.
Gardy “hits” a double.
Why the heck would you “feel bad” about beating the Twins? That is about the most absurd thing I have ever read from a fan of the Yankees. If you don’t like beating teams, why even root for any team, let alone the Yankees? Sounds like someone drinking too much ESPN koolaid.
In a series there is one winner and one loser, and I can guarantee you I wouldn’t feel bad for the loser.
Dennis-Costanza, Your tips today is what has kept me from the Red Sea…..All week I liked Washington, then I go on a hunch with the Irish….UCLA was my game today…..Now I’ll need hope that USC becomes USC again and takes out Cal-Berkley…..Don’t like playing catch-up
I will say this about Minny though. I’m now looking pretty good because for the majority of the season most of my position players on my fantasy team were Twinkies! I even dropped a few of them because I didn’t think it was good to stack with any one team. But I have Cuddyer, Delmon Young and Denard Span. I had Mourneau but he’s out for the rest of the season. I also picked up Orlando Cabrera. Their pluck has really helped me out these past few days!
“it won’t be pretty on the blog if the yankees don’t win and keep winning.”
erica-
translation:
” it won’t be pretty on the blog if the yankees don’t win the first game of the first playoff series with sabathia pitching . they then really have to win it all. anything short of #27 and this blog will blow up with disappointment.”
some of us spent more time on a baseball field than in an english class. that’s why pat m and i can understand each other
think of it like phantom tags at second base when turning a double play. so we leave out a few words here and there. you’re smart just fill them in
Do people forget how well Pavano pitched against us this year?
Blackburn and Baker are more than capable of pitching good games. Both throw strikes and work quick.
Tigers are sending Edwin Jackson and his 5+ ERA this month and control issues and a 20 yr old rookie Porcello. Verlander is also running on fumes and has thrown like 125 pitches in 4 straight starts. All have pitched career high in innings totals.
Do not face the hot team. Don’t look at the names on the back of the jerseys…
“Why the heck would you “feel bad” about beating the Twins? That is about the most absurd thing I have ever read from a fan of the Yankees. If you don’t like beating teams, why even root for any team, let alone the Yankees? Sounds like someone drinking too much ESPN koolaid.”
Well color me absurd because I have always felt bad about beating up on bad teams, hapless teams, teams that never quite make it, etc. Just who I am.
Lightning doesn’t strike twice, and if it does it’ll hit Pavano and then we won’t have to worry about the Deuces “Ace”.
The Twins have never fared well against the Yankees in the regular season and postseason. And if you don’t have to face a pitcher like Verlander then I would go with the Twins.
We can feel sorry for the Twinkies after the season. No pity right now.
Mark T
Yanks face whoever makes it.
If the internet had come along 80 years earlier, you would have heard:
Ruth is a lush, fat and over rated, Gehrig isn’t sick, he’s just washed up and the ‘roids wore off, Dimaggio is a jerk and couldn’t play in the Boston outfield. Mantle is a drunken bum with no talent for anything but hitting cheap home runs in a band box.
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lmao. Just catching up on my reading.
I heard a lot cheering on that putout. Do the fans know it’s Hairston, not Jeter?
Buckett getting touched up a bit.
Trisha,
Don’t feel bad because they won’t feel bad if they beat us.
Mark T
Who cares ! If both teams fight there way to a one game playoff the advantage goes to the Yankees. Their bullpens and rotations will be worn out before the ALDS.
mel, I wish I had more of that in me. Alas don’t.
Beckett isn’t looking too good. Thats some more good news.
I am completely losing it. For some reason I thought tonight’s game started at 7:30.
And the worst part of that was, I woke up this morning and didn’t know what time the Yankees were playing today and actually had to look it up.
And I still got the time wrong. What is happening to me?
Carl, believe me I know what you’re saying is right. It computes for me intellectually but not emotionally. I look at Gardenhire’s sad face and I start to feel bad. I’ve often referred to myself as a walking sponge.
The Twins had an owner who was far more wealthy than King George. He pocketed profits while his team struggled, Steinbrenner put money into his team and ran the Yankees at a loss in order to win.
So go feel bad for the Twins. They could have “made it” but always chose to go cheap rather than compete. That is on them, not the Yankees or anyone else but their owner.
With the kind of money he had he could have kept every single player they traded away due to payroll and still not put a dent into it.
Erica, I thought it was 7:30 also and only because mel said something about a good start did I turn our game on. And she wasn’t even talking about our game!
Randy-
If I just pretend every post reads whatever I want it to… this would be the best blog ever
And everyone would really love Johnny Damon!
Pat M.
The Tulsa/Rice Over 62.5 is a good play. IMO.
Good Luck w/USC.
-dennis
Pitching wins
Do you want to face Verlander, Jackson, Porcello or Pavano, Blackburn, Baker?
Yeah I know anyone can pitch great on any day, Kenny Rogers blah blah blah… but just play the odds. You want Verlander in game 5 in YS with the postseason on the line or Nick Blackburn? Porcello waiting in game 3 tied 1-1 or Pavano?
Ab, I don’t feel bad for the organization, I feel bad for the players. Never the organization!
I don’t understand. They’re not a hapless team. They’re a contender for their division every year. They have good players like Santana, Mauer, Morneau. They had the richest owner in baseball (RIP). They have history. They’re getting a new ballpark.
The Pirates and Padres are hapless, not the Twins.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Erica, I thought it was 7:30 also and only because mel said something about a good start did I turn our game on. And she wasn’t even talking about our game!
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Well, if two people think it its a movement
No, I was talking about our game.
The pitchers for both teams are going to be worn out by the time the ALDS starts.
Look how easily MPB Johnny Damon caught that. He barely moved. He is the best outfielder ever
Erica, question is, will he be back next year?
“I don’t understand. They’re not a hapless team. They’re a contender for their division every year. They have good players like Santana, Mauer, Morneau. They had the richest owner in baseball (RIP). They have history. They’re getting a new ballpark”
It doesn’t matter how rich the owner is if it isn’t sunk into the team. They remind me of the constant bridemaid but never the bride. And again, it can’t feel great for Gardenhire to work without a lot of resources that teams with better revenue streams have.
Short of banning me from rooting for the Yanks or watching baseball, there’s not much to be done about it wouldn’t you say?
What it indicates about me it does. I’m afraid I’m stuck with the attribute. Again, for me it’s always an emotional and not intellectual issue.
Do I wish I didn’t own the attribute? You betcha.
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Erica, question is, will he be back next year?
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Absolutely!!!!!!!
m
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
We can feel sorry for the Twinkies after the season. No pity right now.
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I’m w/you. Feeling sorry is reserved for, when you’re at a game and you see Lester get smacked on a come-backer and crumple to the ground, your humanity is on auto-pilot.
I remember just saying “Oh, no. Oh, no,” because it looked a good deal worse than it proved to be.
That’s entirely separate from me ever rooting for Lester to have postseason success – and at the same time, I would consider it tragic were his pitching career to be ended by injury, etc.
Now, if his pitching career ended because he inexplicably lost velo and could no longer locate his cutter, I’d say, too bad, bub, guess Boston needs to find itself another lefty starter.
One is life – the other is being a fan.
I wish the Twins nothing good – on the baseball field. And I certainly have no sympathy for them – I am tired of their fanbase’s whining about the big-spending Yankees. Please direct your wrath at your ownership, Twinkie fans, who have ignored managerial pleas for an increase in payroll budget.
Now – let’s just suppose we met the Angels in the ALCS (which is what I anticipate, and you and I already briefly discussed our feelings on this). And let’s suppose, for argument’s sake, we were to lose (I have no sense that we would actually lose – but for argument’s sake).
So hypothetically, the Angels are now in the WS. Being an American League fan, I almost always root for the AL (the exceptions will be obvious
), even if I had some lingering bile from the recent series.
To say I might root extra hard for the Angels, because of the Adenhart tragedy, well, I think I would. Would I be happy for Abreu? I think I would.
I feel sorry for the Twins fanbase. Richest owner in baseball that refused to invest in his team. Good old midwestern values, blah, blah, blah. You can’t take it with you!
m
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I feel sorry for the Twins fanbase. Richest owner in baseball that refused to invest in his team. Good old midwestern values, blah, blah, blah. You can’t take it with you!
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Thats why I believe in the salary floor.
I don’t know what the Twins payroll is, but there needs to be a salary floor to force owners to reinvest their money.
Payroll should not be allowed to be lower than the amount received in revenue sharing
Quiz-
Who will hit the homerun to give the Yankees the most homeruns ever by a Yankee team?
1-0 white sox
Randy I, I was thinking about the very same thing in great earnest during last nights game…..This place will become very dark unless The Bombers don’t hammer their way to wins every night……There’s no middle ground….However I’d be very disappointed if they fail to get the World Series….Think of the movie ” The Night of The Living Dead” LoHud Style……..Dennis, I’m on the Rice / Tulsa game …..
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Carl, believe me I know what you’re saying is right. It computes for me intellectually but not emotionally. I look at Gardenhire’s sad face and I start to feel bad. I’ve often referred to myself as a walking sponge.
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Trisha, that’s a beautiful, visceral reaction. Please don’t ever lose that. I love that about you.
I think I can empathize w/your gut response. I suppose the difference for me is, I don’t think feeling for someone and not necessarily being invested in their professional success are in conflict. At least, I don’t have that kind of conflict within me.
Go White Sox go!
Erica – always OPPC October 3rd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Quiz-
Who will hit the homerun to give the Yankees the most homeruns ever by a Yankee team?
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A hinske from babinski. or was it hinkse with your best shot..
That’s my guess
Pettitte is getting squeezed hard.
m
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I feel sorry for the Twins fanbase. Richest owner in baseball that refused to invest in his team. Good old midwestern values, blah, blah, blah. You can’t take it with you!
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I hear that. But if I could introduce you to the Twinkie fan whiners who assailed us at every turn in our Yankee forum elsewhere, your pity might be slightly tempered.
The infamous SW Tony comes to mind. Anybody familiar with this creature?
Everything is morally correct in the Twins universe, the Yankees’ – heinous, greedy, decadent, and immoral.
I actually read newspaper comments during that whole Santana period -more of the same. Castigation of the Evil Yankees.
So – I guess I might feel some sympathy for Twins fans, if they didn’t corner the market on sympathy for themselves. With the Big Bad Yankees somehow responsible for Pohlad refusing to invest in the team.
Leyland has the pen up throwing in the nd inning
bod, thanks for saying that, truly. I can’t overstate to you how embarrassing it is to feel on the verge of tears all the time because I am so affected by different situations. It makes me feel like an idiot. It seems I hurt for everyone and everything but myself. (That I am actually grateful for. I’m really fine when it comes to me.)
I love you for understanding me so well. I’m sure it’s not an easy thing to do.
nd = 2nd inning
Detroit going to the BP already
pat m-
i think the yankees have to run the table this year.
anything less will be a huge disappointment.
you and grew up on yankees success.
i always think they have to win it all for the year to be a success.
I also can’t feel for any manager from any other team. They’d sell their first child to see us fail. The payroll & stadium comments show their true colors.
Does anyone else think that it is potentially hard for pitchers to focus on these games because they are already thinking ahead to the postseason or am I just making excuses?
As much as these games don’t mean anything, it can’t be good to go into the postseason with your mind focused on the fact that you have been getting beat up lately.
“As much as these games don’t mean anything, it can’t be good to go into the postseason with your mind focused on the fact that you have been getting beat up lately.”
i dont think any team thinks like that
I’ve never seen a manager mix and match his pitchers in the second inning.
I turn the game on and they are already down 2-0? Fantastic…..
’d be very disappointed if they fail to get the World Series…
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I think that’s a good working definition of success.
Winning the ALCS would be an accomplishment., because it’s so difficult to get there.
The WS has some serious unpredictability in it – you run into a hot pitcher twice or thrice whom you’ve never or seldom seen, and he dominates, you don’t have your regular lineup for the road games, your pitchers might be thrown off having to hit, etc.
Getting there would be a successful season. Winning, so much the better, of course, but getting there’s no token or pyrrhic victory.
Randy I, I though coming out of camp that this was the best club since 2003……However there remains a significant hole in the rotation…..Their success in the upcoming weeks will be if they can overcome this…..2003 had 5 very good starters…..Just get to the World Series and I’ll go from there…..Openning up in The Bronx is a 1 game advantage right away
Randy I, I though coming out of camp that this was the best club since 2003……However there remains a significant hole in the rotation…..Their success in the upcoming weeks will be if they can overcome this…..2003 had 5 very good starters…..Just get to the World Series and I’ll go from there…..Openning up in The Bronx is a 1 game advantage right away
“I also can’t feel for any manager from any other team. They’d sell their first child to see us fail. The payroll & stadium comments show their true colors.”
I don’t actually find that a difficult concept to understand. It’s probably one of the reasons I struggle with it. My team of choice has the resources to make mistakes and find ways to eradicate them without blinking. Not all teams have that. In fact most don’t.
“I turn the game on and they are already down 2-0? Fantastic…..”
Hey Bets, here’s a little maybe out of the box thinking. The closer it gets to next week, the more the players are aware of the postseason games. Therefore it is possible that they aren’t able to focus as well as the Rays, who have nothing but the immediate to think about.
Just a thought.
I know I’m not particularly worried about the outcome of these games for that reason.
Ouch
Well that wasn’t even close
At least Beckett has given up 4 runs already
Intent or not, it still hurts like a mother.
Wow, Andy has thrown 43 pitches through 2 innings? This is how we want our pitching staff to go into the post season? With an offense that appears dead?
Ugh- This decision making talk is scaring me. I really want the Playoffs to start Wednesday.
A game on Thursday night would be TERRIBLE. The Office wedding is on Thursday night
Betsy-
With all due respect, before you declare the offense dead- they haven’t exactly been playing with the “A” line up these last few games. Molina was our DH last night
Betsy
I’m sure Andy is trying his best to throw a complete game shutout.
Who was hit?
Trish, I know you are an extremely optimistic person and I’m the furthest thing from……….but you can’t just turn it on and off – baseball doesn’t work that way. Well, the 1998 Yankees could do that, but this team is not the 1998 Yankees. They have a lot to prove this post-season and yes, I’m concerned. They look like they couldn’t care less.
Bod…..Your logic makes sense, however not here though…
at least gardner is having some good at bats
Carl, I’ve no response to you since you insist on being snarky……
“It seems I hurt for everyone and everything but myself.”
“FAT LOSER BEHIND THE PLATE.”
” But then the rest of us have IQs that have more than one digit.”
“Piece of dirt Papel-loser just hit Adam Lind”
trisha-
i see what you mean how you are the sensitive type
Erica, you are now my favorite due to your office comment.
Carry on
Hairston got hit square on the back
Bets, I just think it’s hard for them to get up for these last few games. I do think, though, that the offense will come out for bear tomorrow. Just a feeling.
Also, I do think they can turn it on and turn it off, just the way teams can get up for playing the Yankees and not other teams. When it counts, our guys kick ass.
Gardy’s the only bright spot so far. Let’s go, guys.
Erica, the offense has been off-kilter for a few weeks now……Hey, I hope I’m wrong and they will have a few very good weeks in the playoffs.
Jon (yankfan212)
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Erica, you are now my favorite due to your office comment.
Carry on
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Awesome. Thank you. I refuse to go to work on Friday mornings until I have seen the Office the night before. I have anxiety tryign to figure out how I will watch the playoff game (if necessary) and see Jim and Pam’s hour long wedding. And still sleep a semi-normal amount
Even if there is a one-game playoff Monday, Joe Girardi and the coaching staff will be very busy on Tuesday going over scouting reports.
I love you for understanding me so well. I’m sure it’s not an easy thing to do.
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Nah, It’s a breeze
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wow damon looks lost at the plate lately
Are you people insane rooting for the Twins? lol.
I guess i’m the only person who lives surrounded by Twins fans of the mostly obnoxious, small market team inferiority complex variety.
“Getting there would be a successful season. Winning, so much the better, of course, but getting there’s no token or pyrrhic victory.”
If the Yanks dont win it all this year, this year will be a disaster to my eyes after watching all 162 games. Im as big a fan as they come, but with this talent and payroll they have assembled there is no excuse not to win the WS. The Yankees are heads and shoulders better than any other team in baseball. Although I have muttered that before in the past few years and look where they wound up. All I can say is they BETTER win it all.
“Trish, I know you are an extremely optimistic person and I’m the furthest thing from……….but you can’t just turn it on and off – baseball doesn’t work that way. Well, the 1998 Yankees could do that, but this team is not the 1998 Yankees. They have a lot to prove this post-season and yes, I’m concerned. They look like they couldn’t care less.”
they couldnt care less?..its impossible for a team who has clinched everything to play with the same intensity in meaningless games…
I am going to have to have a pretend discussion with Johnny about this nonsense.
No worries. He will be back to Johnny Damon-awesomeness by the playoffs
Betsy – I know you’re nervous, but you have to chill.
History shows how a team finishes in whatever has no relationship to how they play in the next phase – whether you’re talking about ST-regular season, or regular season-playoffs.
As for this weekend, I think the Rays are playing their version of the WS, while the Yankees are playing to get their work in and not get hurt.
My suggestion? A nice glass of wine, red is my favorite, especially cabernet sauvignon. With a good piece of chocolate.
How limited could availibility be for these postseason suites if they are still endlessly showing the commercials for it.
Christina-
Do you think they have lowered rates in desperation or should we continue looking for rich friends?
What are the scenarios for a 1 game playoff?
Someone on espn radio suggested Monday afternon before the football game. Probably difficult logistically.
Ken, Who spells Wang ?????
this weekend is the equivalent of the last weekend of spring training games before the start of the season, no one on the Yankees is playing all out, they’ve had a long season and these games have no meaning no matter how important the Rays announcers want to make them.
Erica – always OPPC
A game on Thursday night would be TERRIBLE. The Office wedding is on Thursday night
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OMG, I’m hoping for a Wednesday start too! Watching the wedding on DVR just won’t be the same if it comes down to that! LOL
I’m flattered that someone would be saving my comments. Talk about a scary dude.
I forgot to mention that I don’t feel bad for umpires who are making bad calls or Sux players.
I do feel sorry for you though because you are absolutely pathetic.
I guess you just can’t get past the fact that I don’t worship at your throne. I personally can’t imagine being so affected by another person that I would feel the need to stalk every comment they make so I could take some kind of shot at it. Sorry for your inferiority complex dude. Now go sell some of your product!
So – I guess I might feel some sympathy for Twins fans, if they didn’t corner the market on sympathy for themselves. With the Big Bad Yankees somehow responsible for Pohlad refusing to invest in the team.
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Bodhi! I’m proud of you – you nailed it. And you don’t even live in Minnesota! LOL
i thought they had to play tuesday because the vikings set a curfew for afternoon baseball games
I really want to watch The Office, but I figure I should start at season one before I even venture watching it. How many seasons are there that id have to get caught up on?
Bay is now within three RBI of Teixeira. 121-118.
Awesome. Thank you. I refuse to go to work on Friday mornings until I have seen the Office the night before. I have anxiety tryign to figure out how I will watch the playoff game (if necessary) and see Jim and Pam’s hour long wedding. And still sleep a semi-normal amount
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What I like to do is DVR the game and simultaneously watch the office. Then after the show, I can watch the game and fast forward through the commercials.
Erica, wow – thanks. That’s ridiculous – the Rays are trying to kill the Yankees before the playoffs and the Yankees can’t even retaliate. I hope he’s ok……was he taken out?
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I really want to watch The Office, but I figure I should start at season one before I even venture watching it. How many seasons are there that id have to get caught up on?
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They are currently in Season 6. I have the DVDs. A wonderful investment. I didn’t start watching myself until Season 3.
But may I suggest starting with the episodes in syndication. I forget what channel they are on (I think 5 or 11).
“I turn the game on and they are already down 2-0? Fantastic…..”
Then maybe you should turn off the game?
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Erica, wow – thanks. That’s ridiculous – the Rays are trying to kill the Yankees before the playoffs and the Yankees can’t even retaliate. I hope he’s ok……was he taken out?
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He seems okay. He was just (justifiably) very angry
I love The Office. Its my Thur night DVR conflict.
Jon (yankfan212)
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Awesome. Thank you. I refuse to go to work on Friday mornings until I have seen the Office the night before. I have anxiety tryign to figure out how I will watch the playoff game (if necessary) and see Jim and Pam’s hour long wedding. And still sleep a semi-normal amount
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What I like to do is DVR the game and simultaneously watch the office. Then after the show, I can watch the game and fast forward through the commercials.
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The Yankees lose everytime I DVR a game. So that option is eliminated. I would probably have to DVR the game and watch the Office after.
But then I can’t DVR Grey’s Anatomy either. So this is a huge problem. But the playoffs and Office wedding would take priority and I would watch Grey’s online Friday
Pat M.
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Bod…..Your logic makes sense, however not here though…
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Yeah, unfortunate but true. Just to make a fine distinction, I’d be unsatisfied if we went to the WS and lost, like any fan, but I’d still view 2009 as successful.
No one seems to regard 2001 as a success (or 2003). The latter was disappointing, in terms of decisions made in WS. But we still got there.
TBS shows them in syndication, Christina. They’re on early evening.
Ralphie, I don’t disagree……but baseball isn’t football; the game is not played with fire and emotion. When you’re at bat, the at bat in a game like this should be the same as an at bat in mid-season. I mean, it’s not like Jeter would go to the plate thinking that he can take the at bat off because it’s a meaningless game. The point is that they should be taking the same approaches at the plate that they did all season……I am not a fan of giving away at bats for whatever reason as that could lead to bad habits.
Anyone here a fan of 30 Rock? If you can believe this I’ve never watched it.
This ump’s strike zone is more interesting than the game itself.
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Anyone here a fan of 30 Rock? If you can believe this I’ve never watched it.
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Why not????
That is definitely one of the funniest shows on TV
Joe, I really am chill…….I’m not upset or aggravated. I don’t drink, but the piece of chocolate sounds good, lol.
# Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 3rd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Are you people insane rooting for the Twins? lol.
I guess i’m the only person who lives surrounded by Twins fans of the mostly obnoxious, small market team inferiority complex variety.
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I’m rooting for the Twins to take the Central to a 1-game play-in. Who cares who wins after that?
Erica – always OPPC October 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I really want to watch The Office, but I figure I should start at season one before I even venture watching it. How many seasons are there that id have to get caught up on?
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They are currently in Season 6. I have the DVDs. A wonderful investment. I didn’t start watching myself until Season 3.
But may I suggest starting with the episodes in syndication. I forget what channel they are on (I think 5 or 11).
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Sounds good Erica, I am going to do that. All I hear is “That’s what she said”, leading to everyone laughing, and me out of the loop. Time to get in the loop
Thanks Angel. I will check out the schedule on TBS
Angel, I’m either going to finish watching National Lampoon’s European Vacation or watch my new Patty Duke show DVDs……..those will relax me, lol.
The British (original) Office was fantastic – I bought the DVDs and actually neeed the subtitles as the thick accents were hard to understand. I used to watch the American Office, but I started to despise Jim and Pam and they ruined Michael and Jan (and then Dwight and Angela). I haven’t watched it in two years.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
So – I guess I might feel some sympathy for Twins fans, if they didn’t corner the market on sympathy for themselves. With the Big Bad Yankees somehow responsible for Pohlad refusing to invest in the team.
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Bodhi! I’m proud of you – you nailed it. And you don’t even live in Minnesota! LOL
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Hahaha! My brother went to U of M when Winfield and Herb Brooks were there, and I felt genuine sorrow when the North Stars left town.
But Twinsies martyrdom is tough to take, even in virtual space.
Glad to have the regional seal of approval from one who has lived through the sanctimony, lol.
30 Rock is gooood. Great cast and terrific writing.
It’s actually funny, unlike that show based in Scranton.
Okay, when is it on, and on what network? Now that I actually have a DVR there’s no excuse for me not at least taping it.
Haha! That will definitely relax you, Betsy. European Vacation is a funny movie. I watched just National Lampoon’s Vacation last night. It made me laugh in the midst of last nights debacle.
I’m rooting for a play in game Tuesday.
Gives the Yanks an actual advantage for having the best record.
I hope whatever series the yanks choose the get to play at night since they stink on day games. I’m worried for Fridays game being in LA they may give them the night game. Anyone knows the schedule?
They just started it a few weeks ago Christina, so they’re in the really episodes of it right now. Its funny to see how far the series has come.
really EARLY episodes, that was supposed to read, lol.
“Ralphie, I don’t disagree……but baseball isn’t football; the game is not played with fire and emotion. When you’re at bat, the at bat in a game like this should be the same as an at bat in mid-season. I mean, it’s not like Jeter would go to the plate thinking that he can take the at bat off because it’s a meaningless game. The point is that they should be taking the same approaches at the plate that they did all season……I am not a fan of giving away at bats for whatever reason as that could lead to bad habits.”
i dont agree entirely, baseball isnt football but there sure is emotion and fire. Having a sense of urgency changes everything in my opinion. No player just gives away at-bats and this yankee team has not been doing that at all…they have played great this month and have been in some VERY important games and it is totally understandable for the last series of the year to be played with less than 100% intensity. I am a firm believer in that you are only as good as your next days starting pitcher.
Regardless of how the yankees play the rest of this game and tomorrow, they still have two days off before CC takes the mound. All that matters is how the yankees play IN the playoffs, not getting there. Now i will go back to my law homework
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Okay, when is it on, and on what network? Now that I actually have a DVR there’s no excuse for me not at least taping it.
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It hasn’t premiered for the season yet. But its on NBC on Thursday nights.
Has anybody seen any episodes of Giuliana and Bill? I have to say that I actually enjoy their show. They seem like a genuinely down-to-earth and real couple.
Erica, are there reruns in the meantime?
The really scary thing Bodhi is that even the Twins commentators seem to buy into it. Even today they played the small market team card, when they were talking about the MVP for this year. You could almost make a drinking game out of it, LOL.
I’ve lived in ND and MN since I’ve live in the US, and its even spread to ND where most people are Twins fans. Don’t get me wrong, there are some very nice Twins fans – but a lot of them seem to have been infected by the small market inferiority complex vs big bad larger market teams trap that the media here seems have brought into.
bought, not brought.
GB7 must be lurking in the vicinity.
Angel, the problem is these channels censor the best parts…..not only that, but they cut out half the movie. It really bugs me. Hmm, maybe I won’t be so relaxed watching this, lol. The best part of European Vacation is when they are in England and Clark goes “look kids…….Big Ben……Parliament” over and over. When I went to Europe for the first time (on a tour), and we passed Big Ben and Parliament, we all did the same thing……..
trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a believer in Ortiz karma
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Erica, are there reruns in the meantime?
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Nope. The show is still a little too new for that. This upcoming season will be Season 4
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Angel, the problem is these channels censor the best parts…..not only that, but they cut out half the movie. It really bugs me. Hmm, maybe I won’t be so relaxed watching this, lol. The best part of European Vacation is when they are in England and Clark goes “look kids…….Big Ben……Parliament” over and over. When I went to Europe for the first time (on a tour), and we passed Big Ben and Parliament, we all did the same thing……..
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LOL. I laughed just reading that
Trisha,
I’ve seen that show. I like it. I liked Bill since “The Apprentice.”
Anyone know that article that Kay is referring too about Coney?
I cant find a link of it anywhere
The new season of the Office is about 3 weeks old. The Jim & Pam wedding is next week at 9. The syndicated episodes are on at 7:30 & 11 ( I think) on Fox 5. TBS used repeats to air it on Tuesdays, but I’m not sure if they are still doing that.
Ralphie, are you studying for the bar?
You raise good points…….I can’t disagree. Also, I should never have said that they look like they aren’t trying. I would never, ever say that (and mean it) about any team I root for………..I admit that these games are completely meaningless and they do take on a spring training feel. I mean, by the end of ST, everyone is board and the players are on the verge of going sour – they just want to be playing for something important. I guess that’s how it is now…….
And I didn’t mean to quite so harsh on Azaz earlier when he was talking about SJ and CB as I enjoy their posts too. I was more just a little miffed on behalf of the other people who contribute to this forum as well as SJ and CB do because there are others, lol. So Azaz apologies for being harsh with you.
“I’m flattered that someone would be saving my comments. Talk about a scary dude.
I forgot to mention that I don’t feel bad for umpires who are making bad calls or Sux players.
I do feel sorry for you though because you are absolutely pathetic.”
trisha-
it’s nice to have the real trisha back
let me get this straight. you’re upset because i quoted you ?
you see, there’s this nifty site for searching blogs.
http://www.backtype.com/
it takes seconds to use.
anyone can just type in their username or someone else’s username and come up with
with endless pages of what that person said .
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Anyone know that article that Kay is referring too about Coney?
I cant find a link of it anywhere
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I don’t think the internet existed at the time the article was written
Randy-
Thank you for sharing that!!!!
Now I can find the exact date and time I predicted this summer than MPB Johnny Damon would be awesome in the playoffs
Bummer, Erica. I should have guessed though as it seemed to have been written when he was a Met.
Does anyone have Coney’s cell phone number that he aired on TV.. Send him a text to send me a copy of the article he “wrote”
Tiggers are in full gag mode right now.
Okay, I just searched my self-
Wow, I post a lot!!!!!!
And Randy- now that I think about it. This is also kind of creepy
LOL Betsy. Now that was quite the visual.
I can’t say when I did my first visit to Disneyland, that we ran through the parking lot to the theme of Chariots of Fire – but that was only because we didn’t have it with us. LOL.
Erica, I laughed just typing it. Boy, I had a great time…..it was one of those “if it’s Tuesday, it must be Belgium” tours (meaning about 6 countries in 8 days).
Thats pretty cool discovery there, Randy I.
I post a lot on here too.
Oh com’on… twice in the same spot??
How do you get results, is there some other link to go off from that site? I typed my name and out popped Christina Aguilira.
LOL Angel, you could have hummed it – after all, it IS an instrumental!
Arno
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Oh com’on… twice in the same spot??
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I hope he has ice
We did 14 countries in 21 days I think when I was in college, Betsy. It was one of those Contiki 18-35 tours.
“Ralphie, are you studying for the bar?”
no…i am still an undergrad (3rd year)…
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yanks have hit so many hard hit balls today and have nothing to show for it…
it looks like posada might have been giving hairston a retaliation explanation in the dugout
Johnny Rockets
MPB Johnny Damon = Awesome
Nice move for Johnny!
Erica’s PB comes through!
Yeah, Demon!
Erica, you should be so proud of your PB.
Our pretend conversation after his last at bat worked wonders
LOL I’m sorry, but Clark Griswold was pointing out Buckingham Palace and he says that’s where the Queen lives and works………..then the kids ask what she does and he says she queens…….and vaccums. LOL
Damon! Your pretend talk with him had real consequences, Erica.
Texsual healing
Well unless I read wrong there’s been an obvious explosion at fenway. 10-4 in the 4th!
Those are some awfully cushy looking empty seats behind home plate at the Trop
The Sux are going to be in great shape if they can play Cleveland in the postseason!
Not sure if you guys heard, but Sachin was not allowed to wear his Yankees hat on the field. What a huge bummer. He did a great job raising all that money for Austism research.
Carl
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Texsual healing
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I know you meant well. But thats just wrong. LOL
Wow, Angel……….have you been back since? What are your favorite countries?
Paris is my favorite place in the world – I dream about it a lot. It’s just the most beautiful city………For my last trip to Europe, I went to Ireland……I would definitely go again. One day I want to go to London and the countryside (I didn’t have enough time to do that when I went on the tour – 2 days in London is just not enough)…..and maybe Scotland. LOL I’m such a cheesy American tourist. When we got to London, the group had to wait awhile at our hotel. Well, I wasn’t going to just sit around, so I sprinted around the neighborhood trying to find fish and chips. I was exhausted by the time I found them, ate them and got back to the hotel.
Ralph, good luck in the future – where do you go to school? My father is a lawyer………
” I though coming out of camp that this was the best club since 2003…”
pat m -
teixeira and sabathia have been huge signings for this team and make them as good as any yankee team in recent memory.
alex changing his hitting approach is huge too.jeter and cano. hughes developing as you always said he would.
i could go on and on.
this team is so good i think it needs to win it all.
anything less and i know i’ll be disappointed.
Fran, I should have figured you’d like it! We really are in synch.
# Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 3rd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Are you people insane rooting for the Twins? lol.
I guess i’m the only person who lives surrounded by Twins fans of the mostly obnoxious, small market team inferiority complex variety.
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That just plain sucks. Why wouldn’t they let him wear it? What was their justification? Where’s the ACLU?
Oops, wrong quote in that last post. It should have been this one:
# Christina October 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Not sure if you guys heard, but Sachin was not allowed to wear his Yankees hat on the field. What a huge bummer. He did a great job raising all that money for Austism research.
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That just plain sucks. Why wouldn’t they let him wear it? What was their justification? Where’s the ACLU?
Christina, to be honest, I’m glad. I really don’t see the point of going up there and trying to instigate things with the fans.
“Texsual healing”
Sterling’s new HR call?
wooooooooo Damon!
Wow!!!!!!!
MPB Johnny Damon is the best outfielder ever!!!!!
nice play damon
Trevor (Super Mario)
Read that on Swish’s twitter
Carl
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Trevor (Super Mario)
Read that on Swish’s twitter
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That makes it worse
The Angels look dangerous w/ Kazmir.
“Not sure if you guys heard, but Sachin was not allowed to wear his Yankees hat on the field.”
christina-
the red sox would have been smart to have matched the money he raised by having him not wear the hat.
i’m assuming he got to throw out a first pitch at fenway though.
just having a yankee fan throw out a first pitch there is still a pretty cool thing for him to have pulled off.
and all for a good cause too.
Randy I…..I’m trying my best to harness my expectations this October…..If it weren’t for the Wang disaster, I’d fully expect them to be heads above all competitors…..
“Ralph, good luck in the future – where do you go to school? My father is a lawyer………”
john jay college…its in nyc..specializes in all things criminal justice from legal studies to law enforcement to forensic science.
Wow, Andy is really getting Squeezed.
# randy l. October 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
“Not sure if you guys heard, but Sachin was not allowed to wear his Yankees hat on the field.”
christina-
the red sox would have been smart to have matched the money he raised by having him not wear the hat.
i’m assuming he got to throw out a first pitch at fenway though.
just having a yankee fan throw out a first pitch there is still a pretty cool thing for him to have pulled off.
and all for a good cause too.
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Exactly, all in all, it was for a great cause.
I understand why they told him not too. No reason to ignite any type of boos for something that is supposed to be about Autism awareness.
Peepee Hands October 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
The Angels look dangerous w/ Kazmir.
Didn’t know you felt that way Posada
I am sick and tired of the rays using our players as target practice. Yesterday Tex, and today J-Hair twice. TO me they are trying to insight a brawl.
Well besides the United Kingdom. My favorites were Czechoslovakia (as it was called then in ’92), Switzerland, Italy, Poland and Denmark were my favorites. Scandinavia is also nice. I wanted to go to Iceland, but we never got there.
I’ve been to the UK and Italy again since that trip though.
Oh yeah – John Jay’s a very good school. In paralegal school, we studied divorce law, criminal justice and real estate/bky. We all enjoyed the criminal justice class the best because it was the most interesting and lent itself to the best stories……….Do you want to be a prosecutor?
“How do you get results, is there some other link to go off from that site? I typed my name and out popped Christina Aguilira.”
the problem is your username doesn’t stand out. for example , erica is easy to look up because her username is unique :
http://www.backtype.com/search.....lways+OPPC
lol @ what just happend
LOL. Rob B are you trying to confuse me on purpose?
You really don’t have to, I promise.. I’m easily confused enough without people trying to.
Lol.
FAIL!
“I am sick and tired of the rays using our players as target practice. Yesterday Tex, and today J-Hair twice. TO me they are trying to insight a brawl.”
Jen, I don’t necessarily disagree. After all the Yanks are one of the reasons they’re not in the postseason.
Hinske with your best FAIL!
good thing hinske wont be playing any 3rd base in the playoffs…
That’s a tough error on Aceves…
If Detroit blows it, working class city comeback story out the window, cue gritty small market narrative,
Arno October 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Hinske with your best FAIL!
haha
Surprised Aceves got the error on that play.
Is that what you are, Betsy? A paralegal? I thought about doing that a long time ago.
I dont care if the yankees get swept. I just want us to be healthy and shake this poor play off now.
Wow, you’ve been all over the world, Angel……I’m sure you’ll get to Iceland one day. My parents went on cruise a few years ago St. Petersburg, Moscow, etc……They did go to Poland and Berlin as well……They visited Auschwitz, etc….My father sent emails describing their journeys. LOL They hired a private guide in Moscow and they happened to be there on June 11, a national holiday, so they didn’t even get to see Red Square and the Kremlin……go figure.
I love Ancient Roman history, so I’d like to go to Rome……also Pompeii (and Florence).
Aceves has been mentioned to get a postseason spot? He is definitely my favorite long-relief man.
Damon is flashing some leather tonight.
And I would just like to thank Hinske for the reminder of why he never comes in as a defensive replacement
so if the tigers have to pitch verlander tomorrow should the yankees take the series that starts tuesday?
Betsy-
I love Roman history too. That’s why I choose to gamble at Caesars Palace sometimes
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Damon is flashing some leather tonight.
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*starts backspacing frantically*
Damon is sexy.
Hes my man crush.
Yep, Angel – I work in a bankruptcy/real esate law firm. I’ve been at the place for 10 years……10 years in December. I enjoy it – I’ve never had the desire to become an atty. I just don’t think I’d be suited for it…..I fell into the this by accident. I majored in American Lit in college, but did not want to be a teacher. As it turns out, my alma mater was getting the paralegal program that had been at another local college and I got notice of it. I had no clue what I wanted to do, so I took the classes and that was that. What do you do?
Jen, I just want these games overwith as I wonder if the Rays are just using the Yankees almost like dartboards, knowing we aren’t going to retaliate. However, why Hairston? It does seem odd that he’d get drilled twice. AJ had better not do any brushing back tomorrow – I hope Joe drills that into him.
Thanks Randy. Clears it up for me then.
I think Phil Hughes is sexier. He’s my man crush.
Haha, weird discussion.
pat m-
i think i’m trying to block out the way wang was handled this year by the yankees and move on because life goes on.
as much as i like wang as a player, i really would like to see the yankees win #27 this year.
i would, however, like to see wang tell cashman where to go and go win another 60-100 games somewhere else.
Erica, I wish I knew of you like 8 months ago. I was running into Damon left in right during all my baseball excursions and could have scored you a handful of autographs. Hes so friendly and amazing with the fans.
Erica, lol………….did you have any luck? I hate gambling, I would never do it (well, if I have the chance, I occasionally play the slots, but I would never, ever go out of my way for it)…..but when I visited my aunt and uncle in Vegas, I checked out all the hotels. I did win over $300 at the Paris slot machines……
Arno, he used to be sexy until he started growing that ……thing on his upper lip.
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Erica, I wish I knew of you like 8 months ago. I was running into Damon left in right during all my baseball excursions and could have scored you a handful of autographs. Hes so friendly and amazing with the fans.
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Umm… why don’t we hang out???
I sat in left field once right by Johnny. I yelled “I love you” the whole night. I am sure the people in front of me were much appreciative
The porn mustache? Haha, it actually helps!
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Arno, he used to be sexy until he started growing that ……thing on his upper lip.
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I believe I have named it lip fungus
every yankees sports illustrated cover ever made. how cool is that!
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....ever-made/
There are places I’ve love to go that I haven’t been apart from Iceland. Alaska, South Africa, Egypt, Israel. But yea, I have travelled a lot. I love it.
I have been to Pompeii and Florence. I love Italy. It wasn’t what I thought it would be in some respects though. There was graffiti and stuff and I just hadn’t imagine that with historic buildings as beautiful as Italy has – that graffiti would ever be an issue.
I really like Paris too, (the Parisiens I mostly can take or leave, lol) but the other places were really amazing.
Guzman is fast
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Erica, lol………….did you have any luck? I hate gambling, I would never do it (well, if I have the chance, I occasionally play the slots, but I would never, ever go out of my way for it)…..but when I visited my aunt and uncle in Vegas, I checked out all the hotels. I did win over $300 at the Paris slot machines……
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I win sometimes. But sadly, I lose much more. And I do go out of my way to go there. I was in Atlantic City last week and I am actually goign back in two weeks (will conflict with Game 2 of the ALCS but will deal with that as necessary). I never pay for rooms or meals there and almost always get slot cash for making the trip or a really cool gift due to my gambling status
CheeseHead
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 pm
every yankees sports illustrated cover ever made. how cool is that!
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/…..ever-made/
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I LOVE the 2005 Preview cover with Jeter and caveman Johnny
If they hit Hairston again, I am going down there myself and taking charge!!!
What do they call that? Karma?
Erica – always OPPC October 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Erica, I wish I knew of you like 8 months ago. I was running into Damon left in right during all my baseball excursions and could have scored you a handful of autographs. Hes so friendly and amazing with the fans.
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Umm… why don’t we hang out???
I sat in left field once right by Johnny. I yelled “I love you” the whole night. I am sure the people in front of me were much appreciative
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hahaha, awww. I will tell you this much, you would not be disappointed after meeting Johnny. He’s just that nice of a guy and really down to earth with people. Abreu was the same way. Not that I have really had a bad experience, with the exception of running into Josh Beckett. He was a real tool.
Oh sure, Erica. And then Damon will flash leather and you’ll get all distracted from your “saving Hairston” mission.
Josh-
To answer your question, I am not worried about Damon. It’s hard to worry about how any of the guys have been playing this week.
Sure, you want to go into the post-season on an upswing, but if the team is going to struggle a bit I’m happy to have that happen over a week of meaningless games.
If Damon got six hits in a row over his next 6 at bats, he’d still have 2 full days off to potentially cool off his swing.
Right now, the only thing I’m worried about is staying healthy. On Wednesday, every stat goes back to 0.
I’ve heard that about Josh Beckett, Christina.
“I love Roman history too. That’s why I choose to gamble at Caesars Palace sometimes”
I skied from Italy into Switzerland if that counts for anything! Breathtaking beautiful skiing into Zurich. Something about the pine trees and the quiet. Their pine trees are different from the ones I’ve seen here.
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Oh sure, Erica. And then Damon will flash leather and you’ll get all distracted from your “saving Hairston” mission.
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Hahahahahaha. Quite possibly. As important as “Saving Provate Hairston” is, I would forget about it in a second if Johnny was in the way
I think my favorite Sports Illustrated cover was the one of George Steinbrenner riding a horse.
I also did the Rome, Venice, Florence, Milan trip. Very historic and beautiful. I would definitely like to do the southern coast and also Greece.
Lip fungus..lol. Why Phil doesn’t get how hideous it looks is beyond me. He’s a smart kid – he must have lost a bet.
Angel, my dreams is to go to Alaska……………and Australia, but we in the US don’t get 5 weeks off like Europeans, so that will have to wait until my retirement, lol. I’d also like to go to the Galapagos, and I seriously thought about it once, but that involves a lot of travel and special preparations ……….
I had wonderful experiences with Parisiens…..LOL, this wasn’t one of them, but one time I was in Luxembourg Park and I started talking to this older man. This was years ago, but if I recall correctly, he wanted to escort me back to my hotel. I didn’t have any problem with that, but at some point I felt sort of funny about it. I had the chance to leave when he went at one point to the men’s room, but I didn’t. We got separated on the metro……and I was glad, lol. I’m sure he was harmless and was just trying to be nice, but I didn’t feel very comfortable……especially as I was young at the time and naive (still am).
I took French in high school, so I was able to use a few basic phrases to get by. I had an absolutely wonderful experience in a brasserie. I was writing in my food diary (I do not and have not ever kept a diary, but I wanted to write about my food adventures) and the couple next to me wanted to know if I was a food critic, lol. I speak almost no French and they spoke little English, but we managed to have a conversation. I will always remember that……..
Christina-
I think thats why I like Johnny so much. He seems like such a likeable person!!
Whenever I sit in left field I keep yelling “Johnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy”
He stops acknowledging me at about the 5th inning. Not sure why I’m proud of that…
I also wonder what Pete will make of Josh Beckett if that’s the case?
Just once i would love if Kay said about an upcoming Centerstage:
“Yeah, I interviewed this guy and he was a real tool. He was boring and stupid and the episode is going to suck. Don’t bother watching it”
Erica, cool. I’m very conservative with my money. When I go to the racetrack ( I love horse racing), I only bet $2 a race…….I’m there for the enjoyment, not to make money. My uncle works at MGM Grand in Las Vegas……he picks up the big spenders (whales) at airports, is an usher at various events, etc……It’s a great job for him as he gets free tickets to great shows, etc…
Arno
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Whenever I sit in left field I keep yelling “Johnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy”
He stops acknowledging me at about the 5th inning. Not sure why I’m proud of that…
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LOL. Next time try yelling “Erica loves you”
Trisha
I had a chance meeting with a couple from Rhode Island. I was extra nice to them(thinking of you). Turns out they were Yankee Fans.
Tigers loosing 4-0 after 7. Hope the score holds up.
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Erica, cool. I’m very conservative with my money. When I go to the racetrack ( I love horse racing), I only bet $2 a race…….I’m there for the enjoyment, not to make money. My uncle works at MGM Grand in Las Vegas……he picks up the big spenders (whales) at airports, is an usher at various events, etc……It’s a great job for him as he gets free tickets to great shows, etc…
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I stayed at the MGM the first (and only) time I was in Vegas in 2002. I got a room with a broken shower and had to switch rooms after I flooded the bathroom. LOL
It was a nice hotel. Huge, but nice. I am staying at Caesars Palace this time when I got back for New Years Eve
Randy I…From a PR stance and for Cashman’s rep, they need to address and handle the Wang debacle…..Certainly wouldn’t go well in the players faternity from their perspective
Trish, Switzerland is beautiful. I went to camp there one year and, lol – boy talk about a tool. We went to climb a mountain (yes, an Alp) and because the other kids decided not to wear their Timberlins (I don’t know how you spell it – I’m referring to those clunky hiking boots) as they looked dorky, I followed suit. REALLY bad idea. I wore sneakers and I ended up with extremely sore ankles and legs. That was 1985- I was 14. I remember going to this town and taking a paper, spreading it out on the sidewalk, squatting and looking for Yankee scores………
Best Label Ever-
Trader Joe’s Watermelon Spears
Ingredients- Watermelon
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
My uncle works at MGM Grand in Las Vegas……he picks up the big spenders (whales) at airports, is an usher at various events, etc……It’s a great job for him as he gets free tickets to great shows, etc…
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Love the MGM Grand. Best pool on the strip.
ooh, sounds rough, Erica. Hope you have a better time at CP! Yep, the Mirage is huge……..all the hotels are big, and you have to get through the darn casinos to find the elevators, lol. My parents stayed at the Bellagio when I went out there ( I stayed with my aunt and uncle) and they gave me their extra key, so I had the run of the place. Gorgeous hotel, gorgeous glass sculptures…spectacular fountains. I loved all the hotels…..Paris might have been my fav as far as themes, but the Venice was fantastic. I did the gondola tour at about 11pm and I was thrown off because the ceiling is painted sky blue with clouds…..If felt like the middle of the day even though it was very late, lol
Wow, the White Sox have 6 stolen bases against Laird, who has one of the best arms in the game for a catcher.
“I had a chance meeting with a couple from Rhode Island. I was extra nice to them(thinking of you). Turns out they were Yankee Fans.”
Tar that’s definitely some kind of kismet because odds would have it that someone from RI would be of the Sux fan variety!
BJK, when we went, it was February – nice weather, but not warm enough to swim. I need to go back and do a tour of the various hotel pools……..
“Okay, I just searched my self-
Wow, I post a lot!!!!!!
And Randy- now that I think about it. This is also kind of creepy”
erica-
i agree it’s a lot of info on any of who post regularly.
there was a time when nick and sf and just went after each other like dogs and cats and i tried looking up some stuff he had said 6 months earlier when he challenged me to find it.
it was so hard on the blog to go back it gave me a head ache , so i have kept my eyes open on how to do search on the blog. i discovered the backtype site, but it still take a unique username to find much.
mel using “M” is impossible to search on backtype because “M” isn’t unique.
on any given day on a post from pete or now sam or josh, i’ll hit command f on my mac and type in a username of someone i want to read, say gb7. it’ll say some number like 27 matches.
then i just click through to see what he said.
tonight you’re at 45 matches at the moment.
it’s just an easy way to look through to see the people you want to see when you have to catch up.
i’m sure anyone really fluent on a computer could add a whole lot of other ways to do searches .
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
ooh, sounds rough, Erica. Hope you have a better time at CP! Yep, the Mirage is huge……..all the hotels are big, and you have to get through the darn casinos to find the elevators, lol. My parents stayed at the Bellagio when I went out there ( I stayed with my aunt and uncle) and they gave me their extra key,
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Bellagio has the best pancakes.
OK, I go to Vegas too much.
RS October 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Wow, the White Sox have 6 stolen bases against Laird, who has one of the best arms in the game for a catcher.
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Wow. Interesting. I have to see what players were able to steal off of him.
Bets, as corny as it sounds Switzerland made me think of Heidi!!! Oh what an absolutely beautiful town is Zurich! Here’s something funny. When I was skiing from Italy the Matterhorn was in site for most of the run. I had my camera and took a gazillion pictures of the Matterhorn. When I had them developed it all looked like the same picture because the sucker is so huge I wasn’t really getting a lot of different perspective, even though I thought I was!
I’ve only been to Vegas once but we stayed at the Bellagio, compliments of my sister. I am not ever a first-class traveller, but she on the other hand likes to go in style (plus she got good rates.) I have never slept in a more comfortable bed in my life. I swear I could have lived there, it is so beautiful!
I’ve done a lot of travelling but unfortunately I was always looking for tropical islands so have been to most of them, at least the ones on our side of the world! Consequently I didn’t do what I now wish I had done – travelled Europe extensively.
BJK
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Bellagio has the best pancakes.
OK, I go to Vegas too much.
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I love pancakes. Tell me more
Randy-
I gave up on trying to find the exact post when I first predicted Johnny Damon would have an amazing playoff series.
I know I was discussing it with Laura. And it was towards the beginning of the summer. Maybe around the all-star break. But I can’t find it.
I really do post way too much
Idle chatter = clear heads.
How sweet it is! Thank you Yankees!!!!!
Trish, you can still go to Europe……..you can go and you’d have a fantastic time. I went on a cruise to Jamaica, Cozumel and Grand Cayman and had a great time, but I probably wouldn’t do it again. I don’t like laying out in the sun – I get bored and I’m also very fair skinned. I prefer Europe because I love history………but I also love seeing this country as well.
We did go to Zermatt, which is the town by the Matterhorn. The Matterhorn is a very cool looking mountain…..really beautiful. I don’t think I went to Zurich, but I did go to Geneva……..nice town. Cheese fondue……yum. LOL I went on a Swatch spending spree in Switzerland. In 1985, Swatches were hot and I had to have a million of them……..I spent way too much $$$.
“I really do post way too much”
erica-
that all depends.
for example pat m, gb7, and i are using the blog to improve our spelling, grammar, and language skills.
the more we post the better for us. pat m and i are getting better. gb7 is going to have to repeat a year
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
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I love pancakes. Tell me more
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I believe it’s Cafe Bellagio. They’re open 24 hours, so when it’s 3 or 4AM and you’re starving, go there.
Ask for the pancakes. Perfect “what am I still doing up” food.
I go once every trip.
On our train from Switzerland to Venice (when I was on my tour), the girls were in one area and the guys (not many – the tour was made up mostly of girls) in another. We girls squeezed into one train and drank (well, I didn’t) and did silly things, like singing into our hairbrushes (well, I did……to Copacabana). The guys pounded on our locked door, lol – they wanted to join us so badly, but we wouldn’t let them.
On that same trip home, we left from Athens (I was going to NY). This was the year that TWA 800 (I think?) had gone down on the Athens/Paris route, so security was very tight. I had packed my swiss army knife that I bought for my father in my carry on – NOT a good move. Security caught me and I was detained. I was very, very lucky to get through and make my plane.
randy, Media literacy at its finest. I encourage my students to take advantage of the internet as much as possible (well for learning purposes). Clearly this blog has certain educational value, which I should explain to my teacher about when she asks why I am behind on my paper. Though I can’t say my grammar has improved much since using it.
Big time pitching by Pena for the White Sox
Betsy – it was Zermatt, not Zurich! Duh.
The White Sox get out of it.
Trish, you were close enough, lol……………
I think David Cone is a wanna-be GM.
He has very definite opinions on how a team should be constructed and how players should be used.
Carl,
And an impressive start by Garcia.
Bets, I am also very fair skinned and get bored in the sun. So go figure! Actually, I’m not good at staying mellow anyway, so I would get some sun, go in the water, go for a walk, etc. But I definitely have no desire to do that anymore. I’ve seen my share of palm trees!
Christina
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
randy, Media literacy at its finest. I encourage my students to take advantage of the internet as much as possible (well for learning purposes). Clearly this blog has certain educational value, which I should explain to my teacher about when she asks why I am behind on my paper. Though I can’t say my grammar has improved much since using it.
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Do you ever find yourself saying “BRB” in actual conversation?
Bets, I knew it began with a Z!
BJK-
I will definitely keep that in mind if we wind up at the Bellagio
Fran (the original) October 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Carl,
And an impressive start by Garcia.
Without a doubt
Well kids, we are really at the end of our Season Prediction charts!!!
I’ll post both later and also a list of the people still alive in both of them.
Again, I told everyone that I would send salt water taffy to the winner(s). That still stands.
I will also attempt my hand at keeping postseason prediction charts but don’t want any predictions until I announce that I am ready for them. I am going to wait to see who the opponents end up being.
Trish, there you go! Zermatt is kind of touristy, but that’s no surprise given it’s location.
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“I really do post way too much”
erica-
that all depends.
for example pat m, gb7, and i are using the blog to improve our spelling, grammar, and language skills.
the more we post the better for us. pat m and i are getting better. gb7 is going to have to repeat a year
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Luckily for me, Pete’s gone. One more trip to the principal’s office and I would have been expelled.
How awesome would a race between Guzman and GGBG be???
Two men, four feet, 20 toes, no holds barred.
Who do you think wins?
The Tigers are owing their best Mets impression.
“From a PR stance and for Cashman’s rep, they need to address and handle the Wang debacle…..Certainly wouldn’t go well in the players faternity from their perspective”
pat m-
no it won’t . wang did what he was told to do, and even though cashman totally blew it, he’ll be the first to hold wang to the screws this winter .
like i said, i really hope wang is fed up with cashman and when cashman doesn’t pick up the option( or whatever the mechanism is at the 20% pay cut ), i hope wang moves on to another team.
test
UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: So I’ve been working on the story about Joba for tomorrow’s paper. Question: Because he has pitched so well in relief (48 Ks, 9 BB, 23 H in 35.1 IP — 1.02 ERA) would you trust him in the playoffs?
I think it’s interesting because fans have very fairly deemed him untrustworthy as a starter. Any faith he can flip that switch?
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I would say no to that Josh.
Mainly because so many of his problems have come in the first inning. If he can’t warm up in the bullpen to start a game properly, I am not sure I want him coming out of the gate in the playoffs in an important situation
Someone at the lohud paper must own stock in a place I called a dump because I tried to post it three times and it got caught in the censor all three times!
Is it me? Or is this game just dreadful?
“Luckily for me, Pete’s gone. One more trip to the principal’s office and I would have been expelled.”
GB
LOL
I was betting it was going to be you. Instead it was me. I have hope Sam will hear my appeal.
I don’t know that you can trust Joba at this point. He’s a season and a half removed from being dominant as the set-up guy. The huge amount of confidence he had then has to be gone. He’s gone from virtually invincible as a set-up man to less than mediocre as a starter. I think I would have had to see him come out of the bullpen at least a handful of times this season to see if he was capable of being dominant, and to see if the velocity was still there.
Did anybody get hit or thrown at or hurt in the game tonight?
Thanks
CR9
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Did anybody get hit or thrown at or hurt in the game tonight?
Thanks
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Only Hairston. Twice
“Is it me? Or is this game just dreadful?”
I don’t think it’s you…
D.M.T. October 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Is it me? Or is this game just dreadful?
Been paying attention to the tigers a lot more than the Yanks.
I really like Gaudin.
The more I see him pitch, the more I would rather him start an ALCS Game 4.
I really hope for the sake of Joba, he wows out of the bullpen tomorrow
I read an interesting post on a Tigers message board about how the Tigers aren’t really choking as much as the Twins are just surging.
The post mentioned that the Tigers’ winning % in September is right in line with their winning % of the entire season. In other words, they’ve been consistently mediocre all season, but now it just looks bad because the Twins are playing out of their minds.
Chamberlain out of the bullpen would work. He’d have no time to think about his upcoming start. Just warm up, come in and throw fastballs and sliders….junk the curveball.
GB had a doctor’s note ( TWINS ) so he was able to skip summeer school……..Randy I, Oh how I remember those days with Nick in SF…….5 Star enterainment for certain….We had quite a few good baseball people back then…..I’m hoping that the offseason brings many back, as the LoHud really sets the pace during the Hot Stove Season……
GB had a doctor’s note ( TWINS ) so he was able to skip summeer school……..Randy I, Oh how I remember those days with Nick in SF…….5 Star enterainment for certain….We had quite a few good baseball people back then…..I’m hoping that the offseason brings many back, as the LoHud really sets the pace during the Hot Stove Season……
white sox win
Detroit and Minnesota now tied.Hope they end up that way after tomorrow and have a playoff game Tuesday.
The Tigers lost. Advantage, Yankees.
“Luckily for me, Pete’s gone. One more trip to the principal’s office and I would have been expelled.”
gb7-
i visited there more than a few times myself in the early days.
i have to say that over time i came to respect pete as a very solid baseball guy.
he knows his stuff and no one outworks him.
Can you imagine the bridge jumping if this was a Tigers blog???
Man ! The Tigers suck. This might be another 2007, 2008 Mets collapse.
Fran, would the playoff game be Tuesday?
Thanks Erica.
One thing to keep in mind about Joba is that after he returned from the DL last year, he pitched out of the bullpen in September and wasn’t nearly as dominant as he had been in the past. I don’t remember the stats, but I do remember him getting fewer strikeouts and being seemingly more hittable.
CR9
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Fran, would the playoff game be Tuesday?
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It would probably be a Monday day game
I hope the Tigers and Twins play a 1-game playoff that goes for 30 innings
If there was a one game playoff- would it be in Detroit or Minny? Who won the season series against them
I guessed Monday day game because Monday Night Football is at the Metrodome
I heard the one game playoff would be on Tuesday. The Vikings game is Monday and the ALDS doesn’t start until Wednesday, so that would seem most likely.
Randy
we started to have a conversation on this not too long ago when the “very solid baseball guy” banned me.
I’m hoping that this isn’t a DEWEY WINS! kind of announcement…
There was no winner on this one. You all guessed too high. Sorry kids.
END OF THE SEASON WINS CHART
Uncle Ellsworth – 106
Saucy – 106
Swing Brett Gardner – 106
M – 106
L to the 2nd – 105
Rishi – 105
TJ – 105
Upstate Kate – 105
NYY626 – 105
Frank from Chatham – 105
The Cro – 105
Ed – 105
Vin – 104
Noreaster – 104
Fran – 104
Erica – 104
Erica – always OPPC
No the Game would not be on Monday. The game would be on Tuesday because there is a game at the metrodome monday.
Erica,
The game would be Tuesday because it is in Minnesota and the Vikings have the stadium Monday for Monday night football.
Where has Uncle E been?
I don’t think he has popped up very much the last few days
The Twins had a choice between an 11 am monday game or a tuesday game…they chose tuesday
Well, it is top of the ninth, Shelley . In case anyone is interested.
The game will be at Minn. because they won the season series between the Tigers.
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
“Luckily for me, Pete’s gone. One more trip to the principal’s office and I would have been expelled.”
gb7-
i visited there more than a few times myself in the early days.
i have to say that over time i came to respect pete as a very solid baseball guy.
he knows his stuff and no one outworks him.
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Had nothing to do with my disliking or liking him. I didn’t care one way or the other about him. I seldom read what he wrote, because, when I did, his ridiculous biases poked through. His opinions weren’t any better or worse than mine, your’s or anyone elses. The reasons he gave for those biases were beyond childish, though. Yet, as you said, he worked hard keeping subject titles updated.
Fran
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Erica,
The game would be Tuesday because it is in Minnesota and the Vikings have the stadium Monday for Monday night football
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In that case I hope the game goes 31 innings
UPDATED 2009 YANKEE WINS PREDICTION CHART
(CURRENTLY STANDS AT 102 WINS)
Created on April 6, 2009
poster # of games
TOMPASS 124
S.O.S. 118
ROB THOMPSON 110
*RAYVT 107
#2 FOR PREZ 106
*ANGEL 105
PEL 105
BACKBENCH 105
*TOM B 104
DR. COX 104
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
MG 102
THE PREDIKTER 101
*L-tothe2ND 101
LORI 100
MEL 100
TEX’S NEW BF 100
PATRICK 100
*ERICA 100
BARDOS 99
VIN 99
JENNIFER 99
ED 99
*NYY626 99
DT 99
*STEVE-B 99
LAURA 98
PETE ABE 98
RISHI 98
RUSSW210 98
CLAYB 98
DOREEN 98
RB15 98
TOM IN NJ 97
FRAN 97
S.A. 97
HOKIEHILL 97
UNCLE ELLSWORTH 97
GAYLE 96
PAT 96
WESTERNER99 96
PSYLUCK 96
STEVEB 96
MICHAEL KAY 96
JOHN IN OHIO 95
MARK 95
B-DAVE 94
*WAIT TIL THEY COME 94
* added 7/29 or later
Trisha,
Now I am officially eliminated
GreenBeret7
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Chamberlain out of the bullpen would work. He’d have no time to think about his upcoming start. Just warm up, come in and throw fastballs and sliders….junk the curveball.
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Isn’t part of the problem that he’s too reliant on the slider? That batters aren’t chasing it out of the strike zone anymore?
My biggest hope this weekend?
Verlander on Sunday!!!
Bummer for young Shelley. Why anyone would throw him a slider instead of a fastball is beside me.
joeysdadjoe
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
My biggest hope this weekend?
Verlander on Sunday!!!
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I think your wish will come true
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Can you imagine the bridge jumping if this was a Tigers blog???
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Yeah, it looks like this board has 58 times this year.
Left standing:
TRISHA 103
VSPOT 103
KEVIN IN CT 102
NICK IN SF 102
YANKEESJTJ 102
GLOBAL WARMING 102
MG 102
Fran, you and everyone else on that list. Yet didn’t it sound like a good bet at the time? The Yanks were on a roll!
Carl Pavano is going to pitch on 3 days rest tomorrow!
GO ROCKIES!!!!!
I am going to curl into a ball on the couch and cuddle with Snoopy.
I will check back in later!
“So I’ve been working on the story about Joba for tomorrow’s paper. Question: Because he has pitched so well in relief (48 Ks, 9 BB, 23 H in 35.1 IP — 1.02 ERA) would you trust him in the playoffs?”
josh-
i personally wouldn’t trust him because i have no idea what he’s going to do from one start to another.
going to the bullpen is yet another change for him. there’s no telling how he’ll react until he does it.
joba looks to me to be a very unconditioned athlete now and not the guy who showed up two rears ago. i’m not sure he has the body to crank it up in the bullpen. we are likely going to find out though because it seems like he’s going to the bullpen for the first round.
GB, I dont want to see this place when the Yankees lose a playoff game. I hope some people are locked up for those games. At times they really seem like they are going to jump off the ship.
For some reason I just can’t get into watching the Postgame.
What a great job by MLB network to broadcast the Tigers/White Sox game and now the Dodgers/Rockies game. Along with the Twins game on FOX earlier in the day, I feel like I’m getting a good taste of playoff baseball. I barely even watched the Yankees tonight.
Imagine a bullpen set up in the 7th thru the 9th innings of Chamberlain, Hughes and Rivera, backed up with Aceves, Marte, Robertson and Coke. Even in the 2nd round, if Gaudin starts, that’s one Hell of a bullpen.
Erica,
31 innings would work Can you believe that the Twins hopes rest with Carl Pavano tomorrow?
Bam Bam still can’t hit anything that’s not a fastball. Gee..I was so surprised.
Joba to the pen should’t even be a question. He deserves a spot. He has showed he can dominate in the pen. He will be back to throwing in the Mid 90′s and the devasting slider will return because of that. Sorry but Robertson is no Joba.
Yeah I switched over to the Rockies game.
Christina, lose a postseason game? How about not the first to score in a game? It will start as soon as something that happens. Lose a lead in a game? The earth will start to shake.
“Had nothing to do with my disliking or liking him. I didn’t care one way or the other about him. I seldom read what he wrote, because, when I did, his ridiculous biases poked through. His opinions weren’t any better or worse than mine, your’s or anyone elses. The reasons he gave for those biases were beyond childish, though. Yet, as you said, he worked hard keeping subject titles updated.”
Well said. But not a popular opinion around here
I would also like to add the bullying and name calling when somebody disagreed with his opinion. Not to mention the penchant for posting under aliases and harassing the posters who frequent this blog.
Trisha,
Maybe I’ll do better with my post season predictions.
Erica – always OPPC
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I am going to curl into a ball on the couch and cuddle with Snoopy.
I will check back in later!
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I’d be just as good as Snoopy. I’m fuzzy and cuddly, I could lick your face, like to have my stomach and behind my ears scratched, I’m mostly house broken…stuff like that.
“Joba to the pen should’t even be a question. He deserves a spot. He has showed he can dominate in the pen. He will be back to throwing in the Mid 90’s and the devasting slider will return because of that. Sorry but Robertson is no Joba.”
You are so high, like literally high.
David Robertson leads the league in K/9…he’s actually been quite dominant.
gb7-
i’m not sure f joba is going to have the high octane fastball out of the bullpen that he used to have.
he really looks in bad baseball shape.
Tar (lost my Heel in Siberia-thanks to Pete)
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
“Had nothing to do with my disliking or liking him. I didn’t care one way or the other about him. I seldom read what he wrote, because, when I did, his ridiculous biases poked through. His opinions weren’t any better or worse than mine, your’s or anyone elses. The reasons he gave for those biases were beyond childish, though. Yet, as you said, he worked hard keeping subject titles updated.”
Well said. But not a popular opinion around here
I would also like to add the bullying and name calling when somebody disagreed with his opinion. Not to mention the penchant for posting under aliases and harassing the posters who frequent this blog.
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I can’t really say much about the “bullying and name calling” part, because he pretty much considered them (me) as trolls and I do the same thing.
“You know that was Eli Manning?”
Love that commercial
“Imagine a bullpen set up in the 7th thru the 9th innings of Chamberlain, Hughes and Rivera”
Why Chamberlain ahead of Aceves, Robertson, Coke or anyone else?. He’s done nothing to earn key late innings for this team.
Randy I…. Very mellow today, Prozac Nation……Tarheel Yankee,,welecome back buddy
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
gb7-
i’m not sure f joba is going to have the high octane fastball out of the bullpen that he used to have.
he really looks in bad baseball shape.
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Randy, I’ll agree with you and PAT on his conditioning issues, but, in that spot, he’s not trying to conserve anything. Warm him up around the 5th inning and, set him down after about 10 minutes and get him ready for the 7th inning.
Rex
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
“Imagine a bullpen set up in the 7th thru the 9th innings of Chamberlain, Hughes and Rivera”
Why Chamberlain ahead of Aceves, Robertson, Coke or anyone else?. He’s done nothing to earn key late innings for this team.
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Because I said so. You’ve done nothing to deserve key late thread posting for this board.
“Why Chamberlain ahead of Aceves, Robertson, Coke or anyone else?. He’s done nothing to earn key late innings for this team.”
Thank you, somebofy is thinking.
How is GI Joe going to take the roles that these relief pitchers have earned and excelled at all season to cator Joba? It’s not like he magically is going to hit 100 mph and especially in those pressure innings.
D-Rob/Coke/Aceves have been amazing in thier roles this season.
The 7th inning belong to those 3
Gaudin/Aceves can long relieve, if Joba is on this PO roster it will be in the ALCS.
“i’m not sure f joba is going to have the high octane fastball out of the bullpen that he used to have.”
Agreed. Further, there’s no evidence to suggest he and the strike zone will be constant companions anytime soon. He leads AL starters in BB/9. Not exactly what one hopes for from late inning relief.
GB7, you want to meet me under the Oneill banner, it’s been lonely out there.
Have to appreciate Pettitte’s honesty in his interviews. “I had nothing. cutter was flat. I saw nothing positive to take out of this start.”
So, how far in advance to the Yankees scout their potential playoff teams? I can’t imagine the Yankees have scouted the Twins much as all along it has to have been assumed the Tigers would win. Wouldn’t this be a potential disadvantage for the Yankees?
Boy Andy sounds like he had absolutely nothing……..I did see Gaudin and he looked good.
“Because I said so. You’ve done nothing to deserve key late thread posting for this board.”
Anyone else appreciate the irony of GB7 posting this a few posts after referring to Pete as childish?
Gaudin should long relief, nothing else.
gb7-
arm speed comes from leg and core strength and from flexibility . joba’s core looks pretty soft.
on the other hand, joba has done it before so maybe he can crack up the velocity as you say.
i hope he does. i’m rooting for him because the yankees could really use him.
but the question josh put out is do we trust him .
i don’t and i won’t believe it until i see it.
when i see it then it’s another story.
having to test something out in the playoffs is not how the yankees wanted to draw it up.
Gaudin should start in the ALDS IF they get there……he’s not Cy Young and he certainly could implode, but he’s steadier than Joba.
Betsy, NYY has been scouting Boston, LA Angels, Texas, Detroit and Minnesota, along with Colorado, Philadelphia, Doggers and Cardinals for the last couple of months, and, most likely with two at each of the games…plenty of video. They’ll pool their notes and come up with decisions within the next two days.
Since Chamberlain has not worked out of the pen this year, we don’t have specific information as to how he handled inherited men on base or other metrics on relievers. We do have WHIP # though for the two teams we might face in the ALCS, the LAA and the RS.
Chamberlain started 2 games against the LAAs, pitching 8.1 innings and throwing 161 pitches. He gave up 13 hits and walked 3.
He started 4 games against the RS, pitching 22 innings and throwing 393 pitches. He gave up 26 hits and 14 walks.
I defer to the really smart people on this blog, but isn’t that a WHIP close to 2 in both cases?
My bad. Wasn’t GB7 who called Pete childish. Doesn’t make his response any less child like, but can’t call him a hypocrite.
is anyone watching this game between the rockies and dodgers on MLBN?
Clayton Kershaw has the one of the filthiest curveballs I’ve ever seen and he’s showing it off tonight. 7 strikeouts through 3 innings.
I would also like to add the bullying and name calling when somebody disagreed with his opinion. Not to mention the penchant for posting under aliases and harassing the posters who frequent this blog.
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I respected his attempts to drive off Trisha, including a very funny late night post referencing her twisting the cap off another bottle of wine, which disappeared after five minutes. But, she does not give up, and her relentless posting is profitable i suppose, in the short run. In the long run, she drives away readers.
Joba was hitting 94-95 mph two starts ago against the red sox. I’m pretty sure he will be hitting mid to high 90′s out of the bullpen.
I hope they put Joba in the bullpen for the alds. And hopefully he gain his confidence back from doing that. Then he can start in the alcs. The worst thing they can do is have him not make the alds postseason roster and then ask him to start in the alcs. That could really mess him up even more.
GB, thanks!
When the Yanks were winning in the late 90s and 2000, they had superior scouting. I don’t know if they’ve cheapened up and let their scouting department go south, but the last few years I wonder how good the scouting has been given that the team has performed miserably.
“Gaudin should start in the ALDS IF they get there……he’s not Cy Young and he certainly could implode, but he’s steadier than Joba.”
You have faith in Chad Gaudin in a playoff scenerio going against the likes of Jason Bay, Dustin Pedroia, Victor Martinez, Lowell, Youkilis 3 times in a PO night?
You have more faith in Gaudin than Joba going against Tori Hunter, Kendry Morales, Vlad Guerrero, Juan Rivera, Bobby Abreu 3 times in a PO night?
Come back to us Betsy.
Thanks Pat M
Not sure I am back yet. Visiting my 96 yr old, Yankee loving grandmother. She wore my cap all day today.
Gb
Without getting in to a big bashing fest, I was more referring to anybody who disagreed with him regarding Alex. Besides, I laugh when you go off on a troll.
Randy
I never did thank you for the T-drill. I have been telling my son to point with his glove(my version).I made him read your post and check out the site.
GB, Unless Joba can consistently get ahead in the count even in the bullpen role he’s of little value……I still maintain that the spotlight is going to find him at a crutial time, and I still think for that one moment he will not disappoint……His overall condition especially for a guy who’s not even 25 is shameful…..
randy l.
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm
gb7-
arm speed comes from leg and core strength and from flexibility . joba’s core looks pretty soft.
on the other hand, joba has done it before so maybe he can crack up the velocity as you say.
i hope he does. i’m rooting for him because the yankees could really use him.
but the question josh put out is do we trust him .
i don’t and i won’t believe it until i see it.
when i see it then it’s another story.
having to test something out in the playoffs is not how the yankees wanted to draw it up.
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Not sure if I trust Chamberlain any more or any less in a start than I do Gaudin. Out of the pen, yes, I’d have faith in Chamberlain. Not sure of back-to-back games, but, with those arms, that shouldn’t be an issue. Coke and Marte mixed into the soup at the right times, with Aceves, Bruney, Robertson picking up innings if there is a short start. I’d prefer the extra mix and match pitching over taking an extra catcher or a Hinske type bat.
Rex.
Any feedback on the inept offense by BC and FSU in a driving rain storm?
-dennis
“UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: So I’ve been working on the story about Joba for tomorrow’s paper. Question: Because he has pitched so well in relief (48 Ks, 9 BB, 23 H in 35.1 IP — 1.02 ERA) would you trust him in the playoffs?”
As someone who thought he should still be in the pen.. I would say NO.
I don’t trust him at all anywhere based on what we’ve seen this season. However, I’d still like to see how he performs tomorrow in the pen. My opinion could change if lets say his velocity jumps to where it was and he once again mows people down with just 2 pitches. I don’t think that’s going to happen but I hope it does.
Gaudin has been good, there is no way that I put him in PO start over the Joba Chamberlain. This is where you can’t live start to start. Gaudin isn’t some flawless option, I can’t remember the last PO start he made, he’d be going against top 10 type hitters. I’ll say this again there is no way he gets a start over Joba, GI Joe would be ripped ridiculously if he bombs.
Joba has shown he can pitch vs LAA and BOS, the ALDS he gets game 4, if they make it there.
” I’ll say this again there is no way he gets a start over Joba, GI Joe would be ripped ridiculously if he bombs. ”
He’ll get ripped either way. Joba and Gaudin are the same thing.
Betsy
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
GB, thanks!
When the Yanks were winning in the late 90s and 2000, they had superior scouting. I don’t know if they’ve cheapened up and let their scouting department go south, but the last few years I wonder how good the scouting has been given that the team has performed miserably.
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I don’t think they’ve cheapened up on the scouting, but, other than Gene Michael, nobody really ever talks about them. Not sure who’s watching, but, using the minor league managers/coaches as scouts, plus those that Michael trusts would be my guess. The only place that i’ve seen as corner/cost cutting is in extra coaches in the minors. That bothers me a lot.
Keep the other team within 2 runs, this team will find a way to win. It’s been the formula all year.
They would have won this stinker tonight had Hinske caught the ball at third–oh well, at least nobody was hurt.
Rays are playing with fire, Yankees are playing. Yawn.
Man, that Detroit is terrible. Guess what? No jacked up gamblers this time throwing foreign substances, if those clowns even make the post-season.
Will Pavano pitch the playoff Tuesday?
Brandon, Gaudin has been way better than Joba. Joba’s been horrible……he can’t get out of his own way against the Ms and Royals. Yes, I trust Gaudin more to get through 3 or 4 innngs in a playoff game…..As far as I’m concerned, Joba needs to straighten out and fly right as the old expression goes. Get his but to a gym and dedicate himself to his profession. His issues are not going to be resolved over the course of the post-season nor do I want the Yankees to try. They are attempting to win a WS and I see nothing from Joba that tells me he is going to contribute anything.
I hope Hughes pitches tomorrow.
Dennis:
Congrats on hitting that over. It was touch and go. FSU still couldn’t get out of their own way. BC surprised me. I think of FSU as being on Clemson’s level in terms of team speed, and BC didn’t move 60 yards against them. BC’s team speed is slow, but they play pretty decent defense. Guess they’ve settled on a QB and he looked pretty good.
Joba needs a throw day tomorrow. Let him pitch the 7th.
GB, yeah – that makes no sense. The Yankees are presumably trying to groom future major leaguers; why not ingrain into them the basic fundamentals of the game?
They fell short of my 105 win prediction.
Hughes will pitch tomorrow and I’m sure Mo will as well……
Hughes will pitch tomorrow and I’m sure Mo will as well……
Clayton Kershaw is dealing
Betsy, your nuts if you even think for a second Gaudin can mow down the BOS or LAA lineup over Joba. If you want a chance the best arm gives you the best chance. That’s Joba.
Dennis:
I may also need a new weather guy. My source in Chesnut Hill said the rain was virtually non-existent.
A couple of thoughts on my mind:
1) How crazy is it that if Colorado wins tonight and tomorrow they will win the NL West AND will be the league’s number 1 seed??
2) If Detroit and Minnesota finish tied tomorrow they will then have a 1 game playoff on Tuesday. So that means we will not know which playoff series the Yankees want until Tuesday night? 1 day before the playoffs begin??
Brandon Awesome “BECAUSE I’M AWESOME!”
October 3rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Gaudin has been good, there is no way that I put him in PO start over the Joba Chamberlain. This is where you can’t live start to start. Gaudin isn’t some flawless option, I can’t remember the last PO start he made, he’d be going against top 10 type hitters. I’ll say this again there is no way he gets a start over Joba, GI Joe would be ripped ridiculously if he bombs.
Joba has shown he can pitch vs LAA and BOS, the ALDS he gets game 4, if they make it there.
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I agree starting Gaudin over Chamberlain in the alcs would be insane. Joba has proven he can pitch in fenway. Joba like all postseason pitchers will be on a short leash in the playoffs. They can have Gaudin back him up just in case he struggles.
I think Joba would pitch well in the alcs if he got the start. I think the emotion of pitching in a postseason would serve him well. Instead of just pitching games against the royals or mariners.
“Betsy, your nuts if you even think for a second Gaudin can mow down the BOS or LAA lineup over Joba. If you want a chance the best arm gives you the best chance. That’s Joba.”
I don’t think either guys mows them down, especially on the road, but agree Joba gives them the best chance of doing so.
There is no basis to think Joba will pitch well at all in the post-season……IMO, it’s just wishful thinking. Brandon, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I see no reason to have any faith in Joba off of what we’ve seen this season.
Rex.
I am a BC alumnus and follow them closely. The rain was spotty at best. A few showers. BC has a weak secondary and I thought they could move the ball on O vs FSU..Regardless of the weather. I was fortunate on a few overs today…
Covers are covers though…
-dennis
“I agree starting Gaudin over Chamberlain in the alcs would be insane. Joba has proven he can pitch in fenway. Joba like all postseason pitchers will be on a short leash in the playoffs. They can have Gaudin back him up just in case he struggles.”
Exactly my thoughts. Every pitcher is on a short leash, Joba out of the BP would be insane, him starting w/ no limitations even if he pitches inconsistant he’d get to the 5th or 6th inning before Gaudin would especially vs LAA or BOS. Those aren’t sissy lineups.
tarheel yank-
i’m glad the T drill helped your son. i wish i would have learned it as a kid.
i’ve showed it to a lot of kids and they get it right away.
pass it on.
I think it’s best for the Yankees and Joba for him to start.
I am also hoping that the results of the first 3 games will make this a moot point.
“There is no basis to think Joba will pitch well at all in the post-season……IMO, it’s just wishful thinking. Brandon, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I see no reason to have any faith in Joba off of what we’ve seen this season.”
There is no basis that Gaudin would pitch well. Yes we agree to disagree, w/ innings/pitches limits Joba’s 2009 has been better than Gaudin, who we really don’t know anything about. He did have a 4+ ERA in the NL, lets not forget that.
Hey Tarheel.
Good to see you posting!
-dennis
Brandon, for what it’s worth, I’m under no illusions about Gaudin. He’s been a very good pickup and I actually like him out of the pen……..but someone has to pitch the 4th game IF we get there. Either way, the options are not palatable.
If there’s a game 4 it has to be Joba. He has the best ability out of anyone in the rotation to hand that ball to the Coke,Hughes or even Mo.
Best ability out of anyone not named CC.
Thanks dennis!
It’s currently on appeal, but I am hopeful.
One more thing about Joba and Gaudin.
Worse case: you start Gaudin and he bombs, but the Yankees move on anyway. Then what do you do? Move Joba from the pen to starter again?
I dont think that’s the way to go. Give Joba the start, keep him on a short leash.
in the audio that’s up girardi sounds like he’s going to be making up his mind on joba as the playoff series unfolds.
looks like he’s going to be really paying attention to how joba does in relief tomorrow.
that’s it for me tonight.
can’t wait for the playoffs to begin.
June 3rd the Rockies were 15.5 games behind the Dodgers.If they win the Division,it’s the 1st time in the history of baseball that it happened.
I hope the Tigers and Twins deplete their bull pens,both win their respective games Sunday.Play the extra game,and the winning team party’s all night,and show up Wednesday hungover.