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AJ to pitch Game 2; Bruney off roster for ALDS

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Joe Girardi just announced that the Yankees will take the series that starts tomorrow and that A.J. Burnett will start Game 2. More soon.

UPDATE, 4:33 p.m.: Girardi said he did not consult Burnett before making the decision. “I did not talk to A.J. about that. That was a decision I made – as a manager, you have to make some tough decisions and that was a very tough one.”

Girardi also said that he expects Matsui to be the DH in those games, though the match-up could change that. Audio coming soon.

UPDATE, 4:36 p.m.: Girardi did not announce his entire roster for the division series but said that Brian Bruney, Sergio Mitre and Ramiro Pena will go to Tampa to work out and stay sharp.

UPDATE, 4:42 p.m.: Here’s the audio from Girardi, who finished only moments ago.

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UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: (Josh here) A disappointed Bruney was surprised to hear he wouldn’t be selected for the ALDS roster. After arm troubles and a shaky four months in general, he had allowed just three earned runs in his last 20 appearances (18.1 IP), dating back to Aug. 7. “I thought I did enough,” Bruney said before cutting the Q & A short.

UPDATE, 4:56 p.m.: Reading between the lines, it seems like there are, at most, two roster spots still questionable. One would be Cervelli, though I’m pretty convinced that with Molina starting a game Girardi will want a third catcher. So count him in. The last spot, then, would seem to be between a lefty (likely Marte) and a second pinch-runner (Guzman). One would think that if the Twins win, the Yankees will take Marte since Minnesota has more lefties. If the Tigers win, Guzman makes it.

The Yankees don’t have to make any official announcement on their roster until tomorrow morning.

 
 

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225 Responses to “AJ to pitch Game 2; Bruney off roster for ALDS”

  1. Tom B October 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    thank god cooler heads prevailed. all the talk about starting a series lefty/lefty was starting to get to me. almost as bad as people that didn’t realized how different and opposite pettitte/burnett’s home/road splits are.

    this is good news for us. calling it right, now we sweep the DS.

  2. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Sounds like a good decision. Burnett at home has been better, the offense at home has also been better which might help lessen the loss of Posada’s bat in the lineup on Friday. Plus now if AJ lays a total egg I can boo him in person instead of just yelling at the screen.

  3. Goony-Goo-Goo October 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Burnett vs. Verlander?

    Yikes!

  4. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Game 2 and potential game 5, with Molina in the lineup and Posada likely on the bench? Oy vey.

  5. Jim October 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    What if CC loses? Do you trust AJ to keep us in it and not go down 2 games? I’d rather see Andy take the mound in game 2, he’s been there and I trust him to get the job done.

  6. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Right decision. Not a popular, but the right one.

    Steve Phillips is on Michael Kays saying Andy should be the #2. So, AJ in game 2 is definitely the right decision. :)

    I mean does that make sense? He’s saying that if you lose game 1, then you want Andy out there because you know what you’re going to get. So that means you send AJ out in a possible play or go home game 3 if we lose the first 2? :shock:

  7. Zac D October 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    AJ at home against thet lefty-heavy Twins lineup with the short porch is going to be a disaster.

    Better hope Detroit wins.

  8. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    Sorry, the googly eyes is for Steve’s logic, not doubt on my part that AJ or any other pitcher couldn’t win a win or go home game.

  9. stuart a October 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    lefty heavy minny is much less lefty heavy without mourneau unless cuddyer is now a switch hitter…

    my bad i forgot punto and boucher are lefties!!!!!!!!1

  10. Tripps78 October 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Yankee fans,

    Don’t sleep on AJ Burnett. He can throw up a 10K game at
    anytime. I root for AJ and have confidence in his talent. Apparently a lot of Yankee fans don’t.

    People act like Burnett can’t out pitch big starters. Ok, all of you will be going nuts on Friday when he throws up a good game.

  11. MG October 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    I think Girardi has put his future as Yankees manager on the back of an AJ/Molina battery.

    AJ’s best string of starts this year were from the end of May through the end of July, where he had an 8-2 record with a 2.1 ERA in 11 starts. The catcher in 8 of those was Jorge Posada.

    None of you who think Molina should be catching AJ even responded to those statistics when I posted them last night so just expect them to be ignored again.

    To pull Jorge from the lineup twice in a 5 game series just makes no sense whatsoever. If it doesn’t work it’s Girardi’s head for sure and AJ is going to be roasted at the level of Ed Whitson for the rest of his Yankees career.

  12. Pound 1 October 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Now that Josey and AJ are paired… I am confident in AJ throwing a good game in game 2. He’ll be confident and have the guy he is comfortable with back there.

  13. pat October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    “So that means you send AJ out in a possible play or go home game 3 if we lose the first 2?”

    The same possibility exists in a game 5 with AJ on the mound.

  14. benfica356 October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    i dont kno if im late on this, but the Yankees have decided to play Wednesday officially.

  15. Christina- Here come the bandwagoners... October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Let’s hope AJ comes through. Tied going into the 5th game could be interesting. Taking Posada out of the lineup for that potential game would also be ridiculous. I hope this personal catcher thing ends at some point in the playoffs.

  16. Laura October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    This just makes CC’s start all the more important. I hate the idea of “must win” games, but I truly believe that Game 1 now fits under that category.

  17. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    I’m hoping the fact that Cervelli isn’t going down to Tampa means he’s on the roster.

  18. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Where was the guarantee that Posada would not be catching game 5 (if necessary)? Why don’t you wait for that even to be a necessity/reality before complaining about it. Ditto for “Burnett vs. Verlander”, as if somehow Andy Pettitte vs. Verlander gives the Yankees some big SP advantage. Tigers have to win first for it to even be a point of discussion.

  19. Free Mike Vick October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Jim,

    what if the yanks lose both home games?

    You want AJ on the mound in game 3?…or Andy Pettitte?

  20. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Repost:
    m October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    The big plate of shutup is only served to those who said some very unflattering things about AJ. Last time I saw him in the Bronx he was pinstripes.

    ————————————————————-

    I hear you. I’d root for Papelbon pitching to Carlton Fisk if they were playing for the Yankees. I think most, if not all, in here would.

    Some are upset because they feel that Posada in the line-up gives them the best chance to win.

    Personally I think AJ pitching lights out ball gives them the best chance to win.

    If Molina gives AJ some sort of a mental boost, a better level of comfort, so be it.

    It may not be optimal but it’s on AJ to prove that the move was worth it.

    Hopefully next season as AJ becomes more comfortable, the situation resolves itself.

  21. Drain003 October 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Considering Cashman was in the meeting with Joe when they discussed all this, I highly doubt Girardi’s job hinges on how AJ does.

    After all, Cashman could have always intervened and made Girardi start Posada/AJ. He didn’t.

  22. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Goony-Goo-Goo
    Why are you assuming that we will face the Tigers ? They need to win tonight.

  23. RC 16 October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Will we hit enough though? And it has nothing to do with Molina… will Damon, Jeter, Tex, A-Rod, Cano, Swisher, Matsui etc. hit? They have all been cold in the last few postseasons. Molina being in there will have nothing to do with it. If A-Rod goes 0-4 with 3 Ks and 4 LOB and we lose 2-1, how is that Molina’s fault?

  24. Tom B October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    he only said molina will start game 2 MG, calm down. there’s no way they take posada out of the lineup in a game5 situation.

    there is absolutely NOTHING girardi can do wrong for his job to be on the line, so stop acting like he’s working on the fence here.

  25. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    “AJ’s best string of starts this year were from the end of May through the end of July, where he had an 8-2 record with a 2.1 ERA in 11 starts. The catcher in 8 of those was Jorge Posada.
    None of you who think Molina should be catching AJ even responded to those statistics when I posted them last night so just expect them to be ignored again.”

    mg-

    keep posting them :)

  26. stuart a October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    every game is must win little kiddies.aj is a meathead and that is to bad, couldn’t he be a meathead and throw to any catcher!!!!!!

    what is the complete roster, river ave blues has some interesting news………..

  27. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Teixeira’s, CC’s, and Girardi’s Pressers:

    http://bit.ly/2Wa5FT

  28. Tom B October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    rc-16 stop looking at postseason stats, they are just as irrelevant as sprint training. unless a player has 200 or 300+ at bats in the playoffs, nothing you look at is statistically valid.

  29. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    I highly doubt Girardi’s job is on the line based on how AJ does on Friday, considering Cashman was in on the meeting and presumably gave his seal of approval.

  30. Bob(the original) October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    For what it’s worth, Posada pretty much hits like Molina does against Verlander anyways.

  31. JJ October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    UPDATE, 4:33 p.m.: Girardi said he did not consult Burnett before making the decision. “I did not talk to A.J. about that. That was a decision I made – as a manager, you have to make some tough decisions and that was a very tough one.”

    I assume this quote pertains to not consulting AJ before selecting him for game 2 right? Not a quote in response to if he consulted AJ about who catches him?

  32. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    1. game 1 could be labeled a “must win” because verlander goes in game 2…not because AJ is pitching.
    2. I see no no way molina plays in an elimination game.
    3. people seem to be panicing and getting ready to jump ship.
    4. I like numbering things like this…good day

  33. arliss October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    “Zac D
    October 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    AJ at home against thet lefty-heavy Twins lineup with the short porch is going to be a disaster.

    Better hope Detroit wins.”

    Did you look at AJ’s numbers versus Minnesota this year before making this statement? Oh, sorry, wait, Morneau was in the lineup then.

  34. Cal October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Who gives two hoots about Sergio Meat Tray working out in Tampa, :)

    His name shouldn’t even be mentioned around the playoffs.

  35. MG October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Tom B
    October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    he only said molina will start game 2 MG, calm down. there’s no way they take posada out of the lineup in a game5 situation.

    there is absolutely NOTHING girardi can do wrong for his job to be on the line, so stop acting like he’s working on the fence here.
    ————————————————–
    I’m an adult and can post an opinion without being angry, as this last one was. Maybe you’ll learn that when you grow up.

  36. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Isn’t Molina going to bat 9th in the lineup. And he won’t be in their for the entire game. So we can still win.

    Bruney is not on the roster.

  37. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    Thanks for that. Of course we all want the Yankees to win. I’m just not a big fan for denigrating Yankees personally (although I admit I’ve done it in the past to one particular player. mea culpa!)

    So if AJ does what he’s capable of and the desired result is achieved, then all the wrought was for naught!

  38. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    WOW.

    Burnett in 2 and 5?

    Pettitte game 3?

    Matsui DHing both 2 and 5….. no Jorge? WOW.

    Speechless right now.

  39. CountryClub October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Posada sitting on the bench for 40% of a series is absolute madness.

    Oh well; we’ll see what happens. Hopefully it doesnt go 5 games.

  40. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Looks like either Marte or Gaudin will also be left off the alds roster if they want only 10 pitchers. I think if Minnesota wins than Marte will make the alds roster because they have more lefties.

  41. talltenor October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I’ve been thinking for weeks, but haven’t said, that I’d rather have Pena than Hairston, age and experience notwithstanding. I just like that kid!

  42. Laura October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    “unless a player has 200 or 300+ at bats in the playoffs, nothing you look at is statistically valid.”

    Tell that to the people who claim that Alex stinks in the postseason. They need to hear it.

  43. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Leaving Bruney off the roster and taking Marte without knowing who you are facing is really stupid. If the Yanks face the Tigers they don’t need 2 lefties. Granderson is their only everyday lefty. Also Marte hasn’t pitched a lot recently so he still scares me.

  44. Danny F October 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Yeah… Girardi’s job is on the line for making this decision, despite the fact that his GM approved it (evident by sticking to it even after the meetings yesterday).

    George from the 80s is not coming back, folks. Girardi is not in any danger of losing his job.

  45. Bob(the original) October 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Pettitte on the road makes all the sense in the world. Just look at the splits.

  46. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    The only stats that matter now will be the win-loss record in this series.

  47. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    People need to realize that the Yankee lineup is good enough to score runs even if Posada is not in it. Yes, the lineup is better when he is in it. But seriously if the Yankees hopes hinge on that one spot in that batting order then the Yankees aren’t going to go far.

  48. pat October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “If A-Rod goes 0-4 with 3 Ks and 4 LOB and we lose 2-1, how is that Molina’s fault?”

    Would need more facts. If A-Rod goes 2-4 with an RBI and no one LOB and they lose 2-1, whose fault is it?

  49. arliss October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Did I miss the Detroit vs Minnesota game……seems to me like 5 people have discussed Verlander in game 2.

  50. William October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    If Girardi felt his job was on the line, do you really think he would have made this decision?

    If Cashman felt this decision could cost Girardi his job, why would he allow him to go through with it?

    Think, people. Stop being so reactionary.

  51. Dassit October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    thanks for audio Pel!

  52. JasonR October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Why is everyone panicking? The playoffs haven’t even started yet.

    We’ve all watched this team all year. They’re good enough to win the World Series under any circumstances. This team is built for October baseball.

    There’s no reason to jump ship before setting sail.

  53. SCX October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Jeez, everyone just needs to calm down. I guarantee the series will not hinge on 2-3 Molina at-bats. It will hinge on CC, AJ, and Andy pitching well. If they do their job, we have more than enough firepower (Jeter, Damon, Tex, Arod, Cano, Swish, Clutch Cabrera, Matsui, and Posada for all other catcher at-bats in the series) to support them.

  54. Laura October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I still don’t get how that Guzman guy got the nod over Pena. Could any of us even pick him out of a lineup?

  55. ariel October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I know most “rabid” Yankee fans do not want to hear it, but Jorge is not a particularly good defensive catcher. He (i) does not frame a pitch, (ii) no longer has the agility to move to his left or right or get down and block a ball in the dirt, but feebly attempts to backhand it, (ii)does not call an “exceptional” game (that’s a euphemism, guys), and, at best, (iv) his arm is onconsistent. It is not a coincidence that dating back to “99″, the starter of the day, if he had clout, stated a preference for someone else….Coney, even now in the booth, has often referred to Girardi as “his catcher”. Of course, The Big Unit and the Moose made it quite clear that they preferred to pitch for one other than Jorge. I would venture to say that if all of the starters were asked whom they prefer, the answer would be Jose, and if not Jose, Francisco….other than Andy, perhaps, since they go way back.

    Jorge, for a catcher is an excellent hitter, and for a position player is a very good hitter, no doubt about it. But he comes up short defensively and does not instill confidence in the guy standing 60 feet six inches in front of him. Given the offensive clout in the lineup, the trade-off makes sense. That’s the way it is, and kudos to Girardi for the call.

  56. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    “AJ’s best string of starts this year were from the end of May through the end of July, where he had an 8-2 record with a 2.1 ERA in 11 starts. The catcher in 8 of those was Jorge Posada.
    None of you who think Molina should be catching AJ even responded to those statistics when I posted them last night so just expect them to be ignored again.”

    ___

    this was then. clearly they lost a rhythm at some point. More importantly, Molina seems to be able to calm down Burnett when he gets into trouble. I dont recall Burnett giving up more than a couple runs in any start lately that molina caught. 3 max unless i forgot a game somewhere?

  57. Jones October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    “Posada sitting on the bench for 40% of a series is absolute madness.”

    Its beyond that.

  58. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    >thanks for audio Pel!

    ;)

  59. MG October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    randy l.
    October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    “AJ’s best string of starts this year were from the end of May through the end of July, where he had an 8-2 record with a 2.1 ERA in 11 starts. The catcher in 8 of those was Jorge Posada.
    None of you who think Molina should be catching AJ even responded to those statistics when I posted them last night so just expect them to be ignored again.”

    mg-

    keep posting them
    ————————————

    Randy, I could post them 100 times and get the same response as posting them once. It seems to me that Girardi made the catching change to Molina in early September just to change things up to see if it would get him out of his slump and now he’s afraid to make a change back.

    If Girardi didn’t talk to AJ before making the decision he is indicating it’s ‘manager’s intuition’ and possibly a one game decision but if he did the same thing in a game 5 situation or late in an ALCS or WS then he’s definitely making a statement.

  60. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Zac D
    October 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    AJ at home against thet lefty-heavy Twins lineup with the short porch is going to be a disaster.

    Better hope Detroit wins.

    ——————————————

    Burnett has better numbers this year against lefty’s than righty’s

  61. Cal October 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Guys the playoffs is about the team succeeding, not any individual players own ego, be that Burnett or Posada.

    Posada whether he catches Burnett or not will have a role to play in the playoffs in helping this team succeed.

    Did we all of a sudden forget its about the team. I understand some folks wondering why should Posada sit over Molina, but in the end it is up to Burnett to produce quality starts and he has been on a role with Molina catching him.

    If it means he pitches a quality start, turns it over to the pen and Posada comes off the bench and knocks in the go ahead run then so be it. Its about team first, not any one player.

  62. crawdaddy October 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    The only thing I need to say about Burnett being paired with Molina is that he better pitch good or else he and Girardi will be second-guessed to the high heaven by the media and Yankee fans.

    I don’t like this decision and it better get the desire result as I don’t want to hear any excuses from AJ or Girardi.

  63. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Will people stop assuning that we are facing the Tigers. We Don’t know yet !

  64. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    I’m sorry, where/when did Girardi say that Posada is not playing C in Game 5 (IF NECESSARY)? Just because Molina is catching Burnett in game 2 does not dictate that if they play a game 5, Molina will be catching Burnett. Maybe Joba is starting Game 5 because Burnett will give up 15 runs in 1 inning in Game 2, for all we know.

  65. Jones October 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    I still don’t get how that Guzman guy got the nod over Pena. Could any of us even pick him out of a lineup?
    ——————————
    Neither one of them is likely to play anyway. But I think Pena really should of got the nod over Guzman. He’s more deserving.

  66. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Who asked the first question.

    Sounded a lot like Pete. :?

  67. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Posada sitting on the bench for 40% of a series is absolute madness.

    Oh well; we’ll see what happens. Hopefully it doesnt go 5 games.

    ___

    god you people really dont listen. They said game two. he didnt say game 5. If it comes to game five, this will probably change. If it goes to game 5, that would likely mean that Burnett wasnt the only problem the yankees have.

  68. Mac Daddy October 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    check out jorges playoff #’s people! hes not yogi berra!

  69. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    I do love Andy in game 2.

    He’s played that role as game 2 stopper many a time.

    Even in 2007 he pitched good enough to win the bug game.

    No two ways about it though, these are some tough decisions that Girardi is making today. And he’s putting a lot of trust in a guy who hasn’t exactly earned it.

    Que sera, sera… let’s play ball!

  70. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    The only thing I need to say about Burnett being paired with Molina is that he better pitch good or else he and Girardi will be second-guessed to the high heaven by the media and Yankee fans.

    I don’t like this decision and it better get the desire result as I don’t want to hear any excuses from AJ or Girardi.

    ____

    Didnt realize the Steinbrenners were in the chat room here…

    It better?

    What are you going to do if it doesn’t? sit here and complain even more?

  71. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    I just think that Joe is doing this for one start and that’s it. If it goes to game 5 which I highly doubt then Jorge will be in the lineup no matter what.

  72. Tom B October 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Mg, if you think that post was angry, you need to work on your reading comprehension.

  73. erik October 6th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Game 3, regardless of how the first two games go, is crucial to both sides, which is reason enough to have Andy for that. If you’re down 0-2, the 3rd starter needs to stop the bleeding. If you’re tied 1-1, game 3 is the momentum shifter. If you’re in the fortunate position of being up 2-0, a solid 6 inning start has the opposition looking at 9 outs to turn their season around. Game 2 has the least pressure. Plus, Andy’s road record in the playoffs is very solid.

    And if anyone is seriously wishing to face the Tigers, you have forgotten that starting pitching is the most lethal weapon come October, and in that category, the Tigers are much stronger than the Twins. So I’ll be rooting for the Twinks tonight. Regardless of who they play, the Yankees and their fans should be confident to make it to the ALCS.

    Can’t wait to be in the Bronx come 6:07 on Friday!

  74. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Guzman is faster than Pena. Since neither of them will be playing the field, why not have the fastest guy? gardner will be in late for speed and D, and Molina/Posada and Matsui both may need PRs at the end of games.

  75. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    If I’m not mistaken, Girardi never said Molina would be starting game 5 (if game 5 is even necessary). Posada will definetly be in there if it’s an elmination scenario.

    I’m sure this wasn’t an easy decision for Joe-he was probably thinking and agonizing over it for a while. He knew it wouldn’t be a popular decision, but obviously feels it would be best for AJ if Molina caught him for his first post season start. I trust his judgment.

  76. pat October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    what are the yankees weaknesses (if any)?

    Peter Gammons (4:15 PM)
    Their only problems will come if there’s anything wrong with Pettitte physically and if Burnett impoldes. They were far away the best team in baseball in the regular season and they go into the playoffs as favorites.

  77. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    sorry- assuming.

  78. William October 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Let’s see that bum Pavano beat us in a big spot.

    He beat us in the regular season, so what? Let’s see him do it in a big spot…

  79. Jim October 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Free Mike Vick,

    Look, I’m rooting for AJ. I think AJ is an awesome weapon, but he’s inconsistent. I strongly believe that pitching CC and Andy in games 1 and 2, we at least get one game. Andy, historically, has been great after the Yanks lose. I wish I had the numbers. He’s a stopper.

    It’s less likely that the Yanks will be down 2 games after pitching CC and Andy then if they pitched CC and AJ.

  80. crawdaddy October 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    “check out jorges playoff #’s people! hes not yogi berra!”

    Yogi didn’t have to play two playoff rounds before the WS and also had some dreadful WS performances in his career despite having some great ones.

  81. Larry Mahnken October 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Uh, guys — the reason Pettitte pitched badly at home this season is because he pitched mostly at home in the first half. When he pitched badly.

    In the second half he pitched great at home — most of his bad starts in the second half were on the road.

    Conversely, A.J. Burnett just gave up 4 runs in his last three road starts, while giving up six in his next-to-last home start.

  82. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    “Among the players who still have a locker in the clubhouse: Francisco Cervelli, Freddy Guzman, Ramiro Pena and Sergio Mitre. Among the players who do not: Edwar Ramirez, Jonathan Albaladejo, Mark Melancon and Shelley Duncan.”

    quick funny story:

    i tricked a team managed by clete boyer into letting me bullpen catch for a few days. i literally had my uniform and stuff in the broom closet of the locker room.

    i was told right at first i would be there only for a few days
    until a real catcher showed up.

    i walked in early on about the 4th day and saw the broom closet empty except for brooms. i walked right back out of the locker room and by myself banged my head against the concrete wall and then composed myself and went back in to look where my bag was with my gear.

    i found it in a locker a few down from nettles with my name up on a real locker.
    chuck dobson saw me breath a big sigh of relief and then realized i had thought i was cut.

    he said the last time they cleaned out his locker it wasn’t to the other side of the room.
    it was a funny moment.

    what happens to their locker is a very big deal for those guys when they are trying to read the tea leaves.

  83. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Edit: definitely, not definetly

  84. Sam Borden October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    To clarify, Girardi’s quote about not consulting A.J. referred to catching Molina. I edited to make that more clear.

  85. Pat M. October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    What ever percieved upgrade one may believe is the case in having Molina catching Burnett, is completely offset by not having Jorge’s stick in the lineup…..The only mild justification that I can reason is that this is AJ’s first encounter in postseason ball, and maybe ( a stretch I think ) Giradi figures that to assist Burnett in this game he may feel less uneasy with Molina…..Personally I’m not feeling real good about this, however if AJ turns in a solid outing any issues in the clubhouse will be a non-issue…….The media is of course a different aninmal…I’ll just pass on the fan base and the LoHuders responses……

  86. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Yankees are in the twins heads.

    Think of it like the Sox in the Angels heads.

    not just the 7-0 this year because we know we can lose to teams we didnt lose to in the reg. season (indians 07), however the twins have come up against the yankees many times in the playoffs and none of it ended well for them. that is in their head, if you believe in that stuff.

  87. Blackaccord October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    some news on ex yankee Shawn Chacon..

    GREELEY, Colo. (AP)—Authorities say they have arrested former major league pitcher Shawn Chacon(notes) at a Colorado bowling alley on charges related to unpaid gambling markers in Nevada.

    Greeley police say Chacon was arrested Monday night, and booked in the Weld County Jail.

    The Las Vegas Sun reported Friday that Chacon faces a felony charge in connection with three bad checks written for $50,000 to Ceasars Palace in March.

    Greeley police spokesman Sgt. Joe Tymkowych said the Clark County district attorney’s office in Nevada was seeking about $165,000 bail on the charge.

    Chacon, who attended high school in Greeley, played for the Colorado Rockies, and he was an All-Star in 2003. He also played for the New York Yankees and Pittsburgh Pirates.

    Last year, the Houston Astros released Chacon after a confrontation with general manager Ed Wade.

    In 2009, Chacon played for the Sacramento River, Oakland’s Triple-A team.

  88. Christina- Here come the bandwagoners... October 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    m October 6th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Who asked the first question.

    Sounded a lot like Pete. :?
    ——–
    I think it was Pete’s buddy Mark, from the Daily News.

  89. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    erik
    Your right. The posters need to realize that pitching wins. If you want the Tigers to win tonight then your insane. You want to face a team with more dangerous pitching and hitting ? That makes no sense.

  90. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Thanks Pel!

  91. Forntoso October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Matsui vs. potential ALDS starters

    vs. Verlander – 4-12 (.333), 2 RBIs
    vs. Jackson – 7-23 (.304), 1 HR, 1 triple, 3 RBIs
    vs. Porcello – 0-0, 2 walks

    vs. Blackburn – 1-3, double
    vs. Pavano – 1-5
    vs. Baker – 1-5, RBI

  92. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    if the tigers do win…who is there game 3 starter? porcello?

    if the twins win what is there rotation?

  93. Warning Track Power October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    i feel bad forBruney. i think he has pitched well enough to be on the ALDS roster.
    let’s hope he uses his time wisely because we just might need his arm in the ALCS and beyond.

  94. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: (Josh here) A disappointed Bruney was surprised to hear he wouldn’t be selected for the ALDS roster. After arm troubles and a shaky four months in general, he had allowed just three earned runs in his last 20 appearances (18.1 IP), dating back to Aug. 7. “I thought I did enough,” Bruney said before cutting the Q and A short.

    ___

    Brian, you didnt do enough apparently. And sorry, but many of those runs were HRs and the pen cannot be giving up homeruns in the late innings in playoff games. Buck up, you’ll be there int he ALCS.

  95. CountryClub October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    tex’s friend :

    My comment was posted before the audio was posted. So instead of ripping “you people” for not listeneing, maybe you should actually pay attention.

    Anyway, I see no reason why he would sit Jorge in game 2 and not game 5. I hope you’re right if it does come to a game 5…but I’m not sure why Girardi would change his mind.

  96. m October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Christina,

    Probably. I thought it was a ghost. :)

    Games on TBS for those who aren’t working.

  97. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    Please please please win game 1 CC

  98. crawdaddy October 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    “To clarify, Girardi’s quote about not consulting A.J. referred to catching Molina. I edited to make that more clear.”

    Girardi knows he better say that, otherwise, if this Burnett/Molina pairing goes south, the media and fans won’t blame AJ, but the manager. However, despite Girardi’s attempt to protect his pitcher, the blame will go on both of them, Girardi and AJ, if the latter doesn’t pitch well in Game 2.

  99. JD October 6th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    “Guzman is faster than Pena”

    That is very true, but Pena isn’t slow, he can run.

  100. rconn23 October 6th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    The decision to start Burnett in Game 2 is a wise one, given that he has the mental fragility of a five-year old.

    Any home cooking he can get, the better. Pettitte is the better pitcher on the road.

    However, the possibilty of benching the second best hitting catcher in the AL for potentially two games in a five-game series is lunacy.

    It appears Girardi has put all his eggs in the A.J. Burnett basket.

    Good luck with that.

  101. Christina- Here come the bandwagoners... October 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    m October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Christina,

    Probably. I thought it was a ghost. :)

    Games on TBS for those who aren’t working.
    ——-
    Thanks, m. I was wondering what channel was carrying the game.

  102. Cal October 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    S”teve Phillips is on Michael Kays saying Andy should be the #2. So, AJ in game 2 is definitely the right decision. :)

    LOL, you got that Right M, once the malodorous mouth of Phillips has spoken doing the opposite is usually recommended with that joker

  103. Cal October 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    “I thought I did enough,” Bruney said before cutting the Q & A short.”

    Well guess you didn’t Bruney, boo hoo. Isn’t competition great.

  104. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    crawdaddy,

    That’s why the players love Girardi.

    And I don’t think he cares what happens. He’s going on gut instinct (and probably a little statistical analysis).

    He knows that one Molina start is not enough to sink this playoff run. He’s smarter than that.

  105. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    even panic over sitting him 20% of the time is unnecessary because he will definitely play in game 2. I dont see Molina there longer than 6 innings unless they have a huge lead which is possible.

    There is no doubt that Posada is better than Molina, but we cannot deal with a Burnett meltdown because then posada’s bat will not make that much difference at all.

    Posada and AJ can work on their problems next year during the season.

  106. crawdaddy October 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    By starting Molina in Game 2 and possibly in Game 5, Girardi better carry Cervelli on the roster. Just in case he needs Posada to pinch hit and catch for Molina and to protect him if Posada gets hurt after the switch and he needs another catcher.

  107. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Pena definitely ‘earned’ more than guzman but this isnt about that. pena is fast but why not have the fastest person there to run? neither will see fielding time anyway. i think we all know what one stolen base can mean to a playoff series.

  108. crawdaddy October 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    “And I don’t think he cares what happens. He’s going on gut instinct (and probably a little statistical analysis).

    He knows that one Molina start is not enough to sink this playoff run. He’s smarter than that.”

    M,

    The biggest weakness I see in Girardi is his gut instincts, but with that said, I hope he’s right and this pairing works out for him and Yankees.

  109. Cal October 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    “Posada and AJ can work on their problems next year during the season.”

    Exactly at this point of the season it is win or go home, not massaging any egos. Burnett has been pitching well lately with Molina and Joe isn’t going to mess with that unless absolutely necessary and besides Posada still has a role to play in close games even if he doesn’t start where he will enter the game in clutch spots to hit most likely. So he needs to calm down over any ego trips and realize this team needs a variety of guys to step up every night in the playoffs in order to succeed come the end.

    Lets Go Yankees

    clap, clap, clap, clap

    Lets Go Yankees

  110. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    “I’m surprised that you aren’t more supportive of the “pitching wins championships” school of thought. I would rather feel that my pitcher was in control than worry about one hitter, especially with the lineup the Yankees have.”

    trisha-

    well in that case seattle really got screwed because they lead the league in pitching and they’re playing golf today.

    i’m from the school of thought that puts the best overall team on the field that is a combination of pitching ,defense, and offense.

    that’s what wins championships.

  111. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Molina is not going to be in the game for the entire duration. As soon as they get to the 6th inning Molina is out.

  112. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    To lose this series you need to lose 3 games, meaning Burnett CANNOT be solely responsible for us losing anything.

    CC can just as easily crap out in game 1. it’s happened before.

    This idea that it is all on AJ is dumb.

  113. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Sam,

    I like your take on Marte v. Guzman. Twins have the better offense and the Tigers have the tougher pitching.

  114. MG October 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    here are AJ’s post ASB stats, all of this is making less and less sense to me:

    Date Innings Earned Runs Catcher
    7/17 6 3 Posada
    7/22 7 2 Posada
    7/27 7 0 Posada
    8/1 4.2 7 Posada
    8/7 7.2 0 Posada
    8/12 6 3 Posada
    8/17 8 3 Posada
    8/22 5 9 Posada
    8/27 6 3 Molina

    9/1 5.1 6 Posada
    9/7 6 1 Molina
    9/12 7 6 Molina
    9/18 7 1 Molina
    9/23 5.2 2 Molina
    9/28 6.1 1 Molina
    10/4 5 2 Molina

    if you throw out the bad start against the Sox with 9 runs in 5 innings (that would never happen in a playoff game where the hook is much, much quicker), here are the numbers:

    Innings Runs ERA
    Posada 46 18 3.52
    Molina 43 16 3.35

    when you consider the difference in offensive potential this just becomes a wash and makes no sense. I hope it works and the Yankees win #27 in 11 straight games but this still makes no sense to me based on these statistics.

  115. Forntoso October 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Girardi would never pin this decision on the player. That’s why the players love him.

    I wouldn’t read much into that quote… Girardi is going to protect his player. Saying that he spoke to AJ would make the situation worse.

  116. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    i’m from the school of thought that puts the best overall team on the field that is a combination of pitching ,defense, and offense.

    that’s what wins championships.

    Then you must want the best working combo as well, which for some reason right now is Burnett/Molina not Burnett/Posada. How about Posada catches, goes 0-4 and allows 3 past balls?

    then what?

    anything can happen and Molina can even scrape a hit together now and again.

  117. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Bruney is upset? LOL Seriously……..he did enough in one or two outings to make the roster? I don’t think so…..but glad to hear he handled it so well.

    So, Posada will very likely be on the bench…unbelievable.

  118. Bill from NJ October 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Marte’s #’s v. MAUER are actually better than Coke’s.

  119. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    MG,

    Great stats to support your case.

    I still like the gamble.

  120. Erick October 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    That’s Girardi just being politically correct with that AJ quote. He isn’t going to air any dirty laundry.

  121. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Randy, you seem to be stirring the pot. Forgive me if I have gotten it wrong. You said that you were going to back whatever Girardi did because he’s the manager and knows what he’s doing.

    So do you back it or don’t you? Were those hollow words?

  122. The Ghost October 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Bruney is a head case much the same as Jeff Nelson was a head case. I remember when Torre gave Nelson the closer job in ’96′s division clincher and it seemed to have meant the world to him and seemed to catapult him to being an important part of the post season. I thought Girardi showed that same kind of confidence in Bruney this year by giving him meaningful innings in the clinching game. I think Bruney should have been on the roster. I don’t understand why Girardi waiting until right before the game tonight to announce. He could have easily waited until afterward and it would at least give Bruney the feeling that it was a matchup issue.

  123. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Go..Twins..er..Tigers..er…extra innings?

  124. Pat M. October 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    MG…Great post

  125. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Is this game televised?

  126. MG October 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    m
    October 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
    MG,

    Great stats to support your case.

    I still like the gamble.
    —————————–
    m, thanks, hopefully the Yankees sweep the ALDS or win in 4 at the very least and there is no issue at all. Personally, I think CC will be lights out in the post season and Andy isn’t going to lose a big game to a team like either the Twins or Tigers so it probably won’t matter.

  127. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Great story Randy,

    Sounds like something from “Major League”

  128. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    trisha,

    TBS. And time out for you. No talking to randy or Nick. I mean it!

  129. The Ghost October 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    the game is on TBS

  130. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    GUESS THE POSTSEASON ROSTER
    Official Announcement-

    According to Sam above the Yankees will announce the posteason roster tomorrow morning. I received about 30 submissions for “Guess the Postseason Roster” and will not be able to sort them all while I am at work. I will announce the winners sometime around the start of the game tomorrow night

  131. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    mel, while I don’t need to be told how to post here, I have already said that Nick and I are going to resume our stay apart stance. Randy and I have been posting to each other in a very friendly manner and he has put me on the spot and vice versa. I will continue to post to him. Thanks.

  132. The Ghost October 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    How does it feel to be Justin Morneau right now? I guess you feel good if the make it and feel rotten if they don’t because you know you could have been the difference.

  133. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I would put my money on Minny this game with the Metrodome being the 10th player.

  134. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    MG, I completely agree………with you, too, Pat M. I can’t believe the Yankees are willing to give up their huge advantage with Jorge…….Jorge is going to carry this with him for a long time and I don’t blame them. This isn’t just for this series…..if the Yankees get past the ALDS and AJ has pitched well, that means Molina will get at least 2 starts in the ALCS…and the WS? Holy cow…..I think what Joe has started here is not worth it.

  135. SCX October 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    If AJ blows up, it doesn’t matter which catcher’s bat is in our lineup down 6-0 in the 3rd inning. If AJ is the good AJ, then he only allows 1 run in 7 innings, and if our other 8 guys can’t put up a 2-spot without Posada, they won’t win anyway.

  136. The Ghost October 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    I put my money on Leyland in a close game. I fear that guy, he has way too many tricks up his sleeve to pull out a close game.

  137. Pat M. October 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Once again, I just don’t want to see the Twins in the Bronx tomorrow…Mauer is a machine….

  138. purenyyankee October 6th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    We damn well better win Game 1. I think this Stinks. Burnett has not won anything in his life and Girardi let him dictate who he will pitch to??I don’t care what the regular season stats say. This is the playoffs. I can’t wait for that 1st and 3rd and one out and Molina goes 6-4-3.

  139. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I think they just want to get through this short series. You have a much greater margin for error in a 7 game series.

    If we make it past this round, I think we’ll definitely see AJ and Jorge out there.

  140. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    There is no guarantee that AJ pitches twice in the ALCS or the World Series.

    I sure hope that Pettitte and CC dont lose because according to the AJ/Molina argument, that would be half Posada’s fault.

  141. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Pat M.
    You rather face the team with the better pitching ? That makes no sense. Pitching wins. If the Yankee pitchers pitch well Mauer will do nothing.

  142. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    We damn well better win Game 1. I think this Stinks. Burnett has not won anything in his life and Girardi let him dictate who he will pitch to??I don’t care what the regular season stats say. This is the playoffs. I can’t wait for that 1st and 3rd and one out and Molina goes 6-4-3.

    __

    If we don’t win game one, then wouldnt that mean that CC (who also never won anything) and Posada are failures?

  143. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Are you even a Yankee fan? You can’t wait until Molina hits into a Double Play? Out of spite? Pretty sad.

  144. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    “Burnett has not won anything in his life and Girardi let him dictate who he will pitch to??”

    Do we know that Burnett dictated anything? Girardi made the decision and I am certain it’s because he felt that tandem gave the Yankees the best chance of winning.

    If you are saying that Burnett’s fragile makeup was what dictated it and shouldn’t have, I say you take people how you find them. Maybe things should have happened differently, made they shouldn’t have. But at this point in the year you go with what works best for you.

    Next year is the time to think about working out the rest.

  145. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    I guess Cabrera isn’t drunk anymore…LET’S GO TWINS!!!

  146. RW October 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    None of us know what happened in the clubhouse between these 2 or if they can work together currently. Girardi does.

    I find it hard to believe that Girardi WANTS to start Molina in a playoff game. His hand might have been forced

  147. MG October 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    CC has handled Mauer pretty well in his career, 5-23, No HR, 2 RBI.

    He is 5-14 off AJ, 4-10 off Andy.

    He is 3-7 against Mo but 0-3 against Hughes, 0-2 against Robertson, and, amazingly, 0-5 vs. Gaudin.

    All in all, I don’t see Mauer single handedly beating the Yankees in an ALDS without Morneau but stranger things have happened. If CC is lights out 2X, though, the Yankees win this series against either the Twins or the Tigers.

  148. DB October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    I was wrong about Jorge catching Burnett and also Bruney making the roster. Actually, I just stated my preference. It just happens to be not what Girardi decided. For all intents and purposes, I hope he is pulling the right strings here. Torre had the magic touch in 96 for his first when he had some tough decisions too.

    At least I won the official LoHud Fantasy Baseball League!!!!

    or I am about to win…..up 5 points with only tonights game to play. I think I got it in the bag.

  149. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    “I put my money on Leyland in a close game. I fear that guy, he has way too many tricks up his sleeve to pull out a close game.”

    he only has the tricks that the tigers allow him to have…he cant pull rabbits out of his hat

  150. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    The Tigers are in business right now…

  151. Evan A October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    If the Y ankees play their game, they will pound either of these AL Central teams.

    If they play like they have the past few postseasons, they’ll get bounced even if they were playing the Royals.

  152. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    When did Girardi officially announce that we’re taking the ‘A’ Series?

  153. 4 Score October 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I think iti s great that we are 24 hours away from the playoffs starting and we don’t know our roster or who we’re playing.

  154. purenyyankee October 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Tex’s Friend:

    I don’t buy that pitcher/catcher relationship. The pitcher dictates what goes on. If Burnett doesn’t like a pitch, he can shake off. Burnett led the league in wild pitches. That’s not Posada’s fault. If CC doesn’t have his A game, that’s on him, not Posada. I want the guy who has been there before in the lineup.

  155. Vader October 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    I could care less who wins this game…I want extra innings, with a flight arriving into NYC something around 5:00 – 6:00 in the morning.

  156. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    I agree. Part of Posada’s beef with AJ was shaking off too many pitches. It’s just the way it is. Shouldn’t be but it is.

  157. Wilson October 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Tigers are cooked. Jackson has been awful for a month. Verlander has thrown 120 pitches in like 8 straight games, Porcello is a rookie that is a groundball pitcher.

    Plus their bullpen is awful, they have no closer, and a very streaky offense. Lots of older guys like Guillen, Polonco, Ordonez, and guys with holes in the swing like Inge

    Take the Tigers…

  158. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    DB, I forgot tonight’s game counted! It doesn’t much matter though because I don’t have any position players or pitchers from Detroit and I know I didn’t bench any of my Minny guys. (I don’t have Minny pitchers either.)

    I can’t see you losing the fantasy championship. Congrats on doing that so well.

    :)

  159. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Man ! Do the Tigers suck !

    They get a leadoff double a bloop hit and still can’t score a run. They must be the worst RISP team ever.

  160. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Baker gets out of trouble. People are nuts if they aren’t rooting for the Twins. Who would want to face Verlander in 2 games and a possible game 5.

  161. Tom in N.J. October 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    So Molina and his .560 OPS is getting a start. I do realize that starting pitching is the name of the game in the post season; however, giving up outs is a risky thing to do.

  162. Pat M. October 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Jeremy…..You & I have been on different sides on this issue…..The tiger rotation is on fumes & their expiration dates have expired & they have zero bullpen…..Twins are the best fundalmentaly sound team in baseball & they’re very balanced…..Oh by the way there’s that little matter of Joe Nathan……Add in the facts that they’ve been playing playoff baseball for the past 3 weeks, the white cieling , the turf, the noise, and sooner or later they’re going to beat the Yanks…..Just look back to the 4 game series in the Bronx that the Yanks won, see how they won…..They match up much better than the Tigers do…..

  163. DB October 6th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    m, he didn’t Mo let it slip that they were playing tomorrow

  164. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    the yankees can beat both teams. it doesnt really matter.

  165. no.27 October 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    “If you are saying that Burnett’s fragile makeup was what dictated it and shouldn’t have, I say you take people how you find them. Maybe things should have happened differently, made they shouldn’t have. But at this point in the year you go with what works best for you.

    Next year is the time to think about working out the rest.”

    How can a 162 game season not be long enough to get this straightened out? The idea that the Yankees should just work on it next year doesn’t answer why it hasn’t already been fixed. Girardi decided to put the issue off by giving Burnett a personal catcher and now he’s given the Yankees their first controversy the day before the playoffs start.

  166. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    tex’s friend – yep.

  167. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    DB,

    No, I think he did. The Globe posted a link to the TBS tv sked.

    http://www.tbs.com/stories/story/0,,154864,00.html

  168. CK in LA October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Do the stats for Tigers-Twins count towards season totals?

  169. saucY October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    damn, forgot this playoff started early. and here i am playing a stupid dice game on facebook…

    go tigers

    i want no part of a hot team of twins

    or wait, let me rethink that ;)

  170. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    first controversy? people have been whining about joba chamberlain for weeks since we knew we made the playoffs.

  171. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    ” You said that you were going to back whatever Girardi did because he’s the manager and knows what he’s doing.”

    trisha-

    there two issues.

    #1 the playoff game with burnett pitching and molina catching.

    if it’s just a hunch on girardi’ part, i go along with it because he’s got all the info at hand and he’s a catching expert.

    #2 why did girardi stop having posada catch burnett earlier in the summer?

    this is what i don’t like and is the one question i would like girardi to answer.
    here’s mg’s stats again:
    Date Innings Earned Runs Catcher
    7/17 6 3 Posada
    7/22 7 2 Posada
    7/27 7 0 Posada
    8/1 4.2 7 Posada
    8/7 7.2 0 Posada
    8/12 6 3 Posada
    8/17 8 3 Posada
    8/22 5 9 Posada
    8/27 6 3 Molina
    9/1 5.1 6 Posada
    9/7 6 1 Molina
    9/12 7 6 Molina
    9/18 7 1 Molina
    9/23 5.2 2 Molina
    9/28 6.1 1 Molina
    10/4 5 2 Molina

    i don’t see the reason to go exclusively with molina when posada was getting good results with burnett.

  172. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  173. saucY October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    CK in LA, yes. they count as regular season stats.

  174. CK in LA October 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    That’s what I thought …. thanx.

  175. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Morneau had a lot of big hits in that series when the games were so close. I remember a 2 run homer of Coke to bring them within a run. Their lineup is a a lot different without him. If you took him out of the series it probably wouldn’t of been so close. Also now the Yanks could pitch around Mauer if they ahd to.

  176. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Well the Yankees weren’t exactly playing their best ball when they faced the Twins in that series as well and they still swept them. I’m sorry but the Twins aren’t scary. They were more scary in 2003 and 2004 when they faced the Yankees and the Yankees still killed them. Nathan won’t even be available for Game 1 if the Twins win because Gardy is using him for 2 innings.

  177. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    8/22 5 9 Posada
    8/27 6 3 Molina
    9/1 5.1 6 Posada

    these were the three games these two completely fell out of sync. wild pitches, past balls, head shaking, etc….

  178. Phil - Not a troll since 2007 October 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Not sure that the reaction to the Molina announcement is comparable to the amount of action he’ll see.

    His weakness is hitting. How many at bats will he get?

    If AJ is pitching well, he’ll get 3 or 4…meaning the Yanks are ahead late in the game.

    If AJ is pitching poorly, he’ll get 1 or 2 because the Yanks will be behind and he’ll be pinch hit for.

    So in the first scenario, the Yanks are ahead and his at bats will go away when they go to the pen.

    In the bad scenario, Posada’s bat gets in early.

    Yes, all 27 outs are precious commodities, but 1 or 2 by Molina can and should be masked by the other tremendous hitters in the lineup.

    Girardi only mentioned game 2, nothing about game 5 (if necessary).

    Maybe Girardi knows more than we do about Posada’s health?

  179. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Flaherty caught Randy Johnson for one game in the playoffs against the Angels. So it’s not like this is the 1st time this has happened to Posada.

  180. Josh October 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    You guys make no sense sometimes. Burnett is an ace. Burnett has been the number 2 starter all year. You want to split the lefties up. Shall I go on?

    I guess most of you forget that Burnett is capable of domination aka what he did to the Red Sox. awhile back

  181. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “Once again, I just don’t want to see the Twins in the Bronx tomorrow…Mauer is a machine….”

    pat m-

    he’s one big catcher back there.

    almost looks funny he’s so big.

  182. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    “How can a 162 game season not be long enough to get this straightened out? The idea that the Yankees should just work on it next year doesn’t answer why it hasn’t already been fixed. Girardi decided to put the issue off by giving Burnett a personal catcher and now he’s given the Yankees their first controversy the day before the playoffs start.”

    Because for Posada it wasn’t a 162-game season. And since each pitcher only pitches every 5 games, it makes it even more tenuous. None of us knows what happened behind the scenes all season. For whatever reason, it wasn’t fixed.

    The other thing is that this shouldn’t have been a controversy. And I guarantee you there would have been as many questions if he chose Posada to catch AJ. There were a lot of people, including Cone, who were vocal about their thoughts that Molina was the better bet! So you know Girardi was in a catch 22. No question.

    The only thing I wish is that Posada chose his comments more carefully only because you know the press lives to find a way to make life difficult for the Yankees.

    Other than that, as with the entire season, I will continue to keep the faith.

    I really believe in this team and every player on it.

  183. Pat M. October 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    Jeremy, The Yanks were lucky to beat them in 2004…Infact it took a miracle rally to pull it off…Remember A-Rod carried the team…..Didn’t Rueben Sierra come off the bench and hit a double that plated the go ahead run ???? I hope I’m wrong, but I’m leary of the Twins…Be careful of what you wish for……Besides the Metrodome is not a friendly environment

  184. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “Maybe Girardi knows more than we do about Posada’s health?”

    phil-

    that’s the kind of thing i meant when i say he has all the facts.

    for strategic reasons if posada is hurting girardi doesn’t want to say it.

  185. no.27 October 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    “first controversy? people have been whining about joba chamberlain for weeks since we knew we made the playoffs.”

    how does people arguing about what joba’s role should be have any effect on what happens in the playoffs?

    if this start for aj doesn’t go well and the series goes 5 games, this could be the reason the yankees don’t make it out of the first round.

  186. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    3-0 Detroit

  187. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    miggy putting on a show

  188. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Randy, Pat M, MG – do you guys believe Joe when he said he made the decision to start AJ/Molina by himself, basically without any input from AJ? If so, what do you think that says about Joe? It seems to me that if that is the case, there is a problem here. I say that because it would imply that Joe thinks AJ needs a security blanket, his own personal catcher. It also would say to me that Joe can’t read stats or he was MIA in June and July…AND when AJ had a terrible start with Molina in Baltimore. Thoughts?

  189. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Randy, Pat M, MG – do you guys believe Joe when he said he made the decision to start AJ/Molina by himself, basically without any input from AJ? If so, what do you think that says about Joe? It seems to me that if that is the case, there is a problem here. I say that because it would imply that Joe thinks AJ needs a security blanket, his own personal catcher. It also would say to me that Joe can’t read stats or he was MIA in June and July…AND when AJ had a terrible start with Molina in Baltimore. Thoughts?

  190. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Randy, I understand your questioning that. I think there could have been things going on behind the scene we don’t know about or never heard about. Or maybe, as you said earlier, it was just a matter of Molina catching AJ more and AJ feeling the comfort of that and Girardi wants to continue it.

    I think we will both be doing the same thing, in fact I know we will. Trusting that Girardi knows what he’s doing and that he made the decision he did based on what he felt would work best.

    :)

    Catch you in a while. Not looking great for Minny right now…

  191. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Well the Twins are in trouble. They have to start a rally.

  192. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Girardi might be able to start going over those Tigers scouting reports.

  193. Corey October 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    This ump is squeezing Baker real hard

  194. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Betsy -

    I know you did not address your question to me, but I don’t agree that it means Joe thinks AJ needs a security blanket. Girardi is a guy who will crunch numbers and then take other circumstances into account. I think the combination of AJ’s most recent starts with Molina combined with a feeling that AJ is comfortable with Molina led to the decision. We’ll not really ever know for sure, but that’s my take on it.

  195. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    lol @ Jim Leyland breathing into the mic

  196. Cervelli Fan October 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Burnett is not the first Yankee pitcher to prefer a catcher other than Posada. Last year, Mussina prefered Molina also.

    When is the last time Posada has thrown a runner out? Everyone seems to only care that Posada is a decent power hitter and ignores his shortcomings as a game caller and defensive catcher.

  197. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Doreen,

    See? Granderson is fast and that stupid Ordonez is a contact hitter!

    And is alcohol a masking agent? I kid, I kid.

  198. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    The ump for this game is really bad. He has missed so many calls. A big reason why Baker gave up those runs.

  199. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    randy l -

    I really think much of the circumstances with AJ/Molina pairings were partly to do with Posada being injured at times. And partly just trying to get AJ right after he fell off the cliff earlier in the season and all of a sudden was ineffective.

  200. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    Pat M, I respect the Twins, but the Yankees are the best team in baseball – they should not fear anyone.

    Phil, I respectfully disagree. First of all, even if AJ pitches well, how do you know he won’t be outpitched? In fact, I seriously doubt he’s going to outpitch Justin Verlander in Game 2 if the Tigers win. Forget my negativity, though – AJ pitching well does not guarantee that they will be ahead. I have seen more than enough close games this year where Molina or someother mediocre hitter came up in a big situation and didn’t get the job done. Again, now if the Yankees get to the WS, Jorge will be on the bench for 4 games at least…….Imagine, game 5 AJ starting and Jorge on the bench ? It’s unthinkable.

  201. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Doreen, I always enjoy hearing from you. I do disagree, though……..and again, he forgot about AJ pitching terribly in Baltimore to Molina. AJ’s recent turnaround has to do with AJ, not Molina. I really think this is going to bite them big time in many ways.

  202. m October 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Nice play by Inge saving an extra base there.

  203. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Randy Marsh is known for having a very small strike zone. He is a hitters umpire. He isn’t giving Baker any pitches up in the zone.

  204. rconn23 October 6th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    The Metrodome home field advantage aside, Minnesota’s pitchers are basically just average – Baker, Pavano and Blackburn.

  205. CK in LA October 6th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    I’ve never joined the AJ-Posada-Molina debate, but why would you take Jorge’s bat out of the line-up.

  206. no.27 October 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    “The other thing is that this shouldn’t have been a controversy. And I guarantee you there would have been as many questions if he chose Posada to catch AJ. There were a lot of people, including Cone, who were vocal about their thoughts that Molina was the better bet! So you know Girardi was in a catch 22. No question.”

    I doubt it. When you have a catcher that can hit like Posada, it’s the norm to start him every game in the playoffs. You wouldn’t start Ramiro Pena over Derek Jeter because Wang was pitching and you wanted to have better infield defense.

    And even with Posada’s injury, there was more than enough time to work this out. No reason to leave this sort of thing til a few days before the playoffs.

  207. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Jeremy
    October 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    Well the Yankees weren’t exactly playing their best ball when they faced the Twins in that series as well and they still swept them. I’m sorry but the Twins aren’t scary. They were more scary in 2003 and 2004 when they faced the Yankees and the Yankees still killed them. Nathan won’t even be available for Game 1 if the Twins win because Gardy is using him for 2 innings.

    ————————————————————

    Having to face Span, Cabrera, Mauer, Cuddyer, Kubel and Young in succession would be a killer for any pitcher. They aren’t going to roll over and die. They have a solid bullpen just getting to Nathan. The rotation are no-names in NYY maybe, but, they’re solid and they don’t walk batters and they control the runners. If you think that just because NYY too 7 straight from them that they are pushovers, you haven’t been paying attention. NYY won 4 by one run and 2 by 2 runs. All low scoring by Yankee standards and two of those games were extra inning affairs. The run differential in those 6 games was 8 runs. Not exactly blowouts.

  208. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    If the Yanks face the Tigers game 1 is extremely important. CC against Jackson who has been absolutely terrible. Then Verlander, and Porcello who has great stuff.

  209. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Molina is a career .375 postseason hitter. Posada .236

    Molina > Posada

  210. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Porcello made a mistake.

  211. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Nice base running by Tolbert…

  212. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Cervelli Fan
    October 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    Burnett is not the first Yankee pitcher to prefer a catcher other than Posada. Last year, Mussina prefered Molina also.

    When is the last time Posada has thrown a runner out? Everyone seems to only care that Posada is a decent power hitter and ignores his shortcomings as a game caller and defensive catcher.

    ————————————————————

    This BS doesn’t deserve to be answered, but, Posada and Molina has the same success rate at throwing out runners….28%. I am trying to figure out how Rivera got to 530 career saves and Pettitte got to 230 career wins, with Posada catching, though.

  213. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    GB, I don’t think anyone is disrespecting the Twins…I just don’t believe we should be afraid of anyone. I said last night, I’m more afraid of the Yankees not playing well than I am of other teams playing well. This whole debacle with AJ/Molina/Jorge has me concerned…plus the team has a lot to prove. They have no excuses to not get to the ALCS, unless the Tigers pitching shuts them down – which is very possible.

  214. Jeremy October 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    I still don’t know why some fans are scared of the Twins. They have a good lineup but the Yankee pitching is better. And pitching wins. Thats about it !

  215. m October 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    GB7,

    Me, too. Considering that Posada never played for the Astros.

    Okay. I’ll shut up now. :P

  216. Rishi October 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    :arrow:

  217. GreenBeret7 October 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Nobody’s “scared of playing the Twins”. The way they play and that bullpen and 1st six hitters in the order had better give you a healthy respect for them. Detroit is also no pushover. It would do well to respect all of these teams, because they can all end NYY’s season in three games.

  218. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    There’s a lot less controversy when you go with your starting players than with backups, I think.

    Betsy -

    I hope it’s not going to bite them. I really do think this team is strong and solid enough to withstand this little turn of events.

    The thing I keep coming back to is the psychological thing. If a guy thinks he’s better with a certain guy behind the plate, then he is, at least in his mind.

    Listen, I have my fingers crossed as much as the next person; and my preference (if it counted) would be for Posada to be in there. But I really do think it will be okay in the end.

  219. Dano October 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Still trying to come to terms with the fact that someone, presumably an adult, used the phrase: ‘plate of shut up’.

    Genius.

  220. The Ghost October 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Why has no one brought up the plain fact that Posada won’t call pitches in the dirt with men on base because he’s a little worried about passed balls? Burnett’s best out pitch is his diving curve ball and he needs it most when there are men on base. He needs a catcher who is quick enough to get his body in front of the ball. The irony is that Jorge is probably quicker than Molina but he has a very bad habit of reaching instead of blocking. I think that has more to do with the switch than anything.

  221. Enough Youk October 6th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Molina > Posada

    are you serious??

  222. Enough Youk October 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Didn’t Rueben Sierra come off the bench and hit a double that plated the go ahead run

    I think he hit a pinch hit homer maybe even a grand slammer.

  223. joeysdadjoe October 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    Cervelli WILL be on the roster

  224. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    People who regard Molina replacing Posada in the lineup as giving away “just a few ABs” have a fundamental misunderstanding of how Posada’s bat functions in the Yankees’ circular lineup, and how that relentless offense shortens opposing pitcher’s starts and helps wear out opposing BPs.

    The whole basis of the Yankees’ superiority this season revolves around power pitching and a circular lineup with ridiculous OPS, lefties who can hit LHP, and switch hitters who present constant headaches for opposing managers.

    That wear and tear, over the course of a series, is what the Yankees bring to trump their opponents. It’s also how they won 103 games.

    The “few ABs” affect the whole lineup: Molina being an offensive cipher affects he who bats in front of him, and he who bats behind him. It also doesn’t allow the lineup to turn over, and doesn’t allow the dangerous lineup to get excess swipes. We don’t just overwhelm teams – we WEAR THEM DOWN and dealing with our lineup, over and over again, becomes too much for them.

    I hope AJ is lights out – because when you remove Posada from the lineup, one can’t expect the Yankee offense to just take it in stride. The circle becomes a horseshoe – it’s not the same team.

    Think of it this way: if it were such a trifle, just some gratuitous bat in an All-Mighty lineup, why would the Yankees be falling all over themselves to groom Montero as a catcher? Why wouldn’t they just let that kid work on his jacks as a DH and have Cervelli be the catcher?

    OPS from the catcher is one of the things that separates the Yankees from their competition. If you don’t understand the value of that, you don’t understand what makes your own team a cut above.

  225. 108 stitches October 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    The roster can change after the ALDS. With a better August, Bruney might not have fallen out of Girardi’s circle of trust.
    The outcome of the Twins-Tigers game can alter Girardi’s thinking with positional reserves.


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