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Posada: Molina will catch AJ

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 06, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jorge Posada just revealed that Joe Girardi told him on Sunday that Jose Molina will catch A.J. Burnett in this series.

UPDATE, 1:36 p.m.: We’ll have audio (hopefully) from Posada uploaded shortly. “I just hope we win that game,” Posada said. “That’s all I’ve got to say.”

He added, “It’s not like I didn’t see it coming.”

When asked if he might be the DH when Molina catches, Posada said he wasn’t sure but that, “Matsui is our DH.”

UPDATE, 1:40 p.m.: (Josh here) The Posada audio – the Molina stuff is a few minutes in:

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UPDATE, 1:50 p.m.: The team is in a meeting right now and will be on the field closer to 2:30 p.m. Girardi, CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira will have press conferences near the end of the workout.

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429 Responses to “Posada: Molina will catch AJ”

  1. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    molina will get a big hit this series…you heard it here first!

  2. Greg F. October 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    This is 100% idiotic.

  3. Awais October 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    i would do this..allow molina to catch posada for a couple of innings..than say, 6th inning..pull molina, and bring in Posada. We need Posadas bat.

  4. Walton October 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    A-ROD better step up for the playoffs… if he hits .150 again this year, I am going to be ticked. He better perform and he better perform right away.

  5. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    I wish Jorgie revealed this sooner. So much futile debating, all for naught :-)

  6. Awais October 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    catch Burnett* i mean,

  7. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    28 Hours and 22 minutes until Game 1 :-)

  8. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4418533

    :roll:

    Worst. Decision. Ever.

  9. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    I don’t agree with this at all, but like I said last night: I trust Girardi. This is the decision, let’s see what happens.

  10. jennifer October 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Fine it is what it is for this year. But next year AJ better get on the same page with Jorge. After all Jose will likely be gone.

  11. Yanks 182 October 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Girardi was a former catcher. Pena was a former catcher. Cashman was probably involved in this decision as well.

    Trust the people in charge… especially the two guys who actually played the position.

  12. Charlie October 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Posada needs to stay away from giving attitude. His best friend the Captain should have a few words with him.

  13. 46fan October 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    We want to keep AJ happy, but what’s he going to do next year when Molina will, in all likelihood, be gone….and Girardi better sit Matsui if he’s struggling and let Jorge DH…..Jorge has ALWAYS been a spark plug in the playoffs….

  14. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I know it obviously isn’t what Posada wanted to hear but I just hope he takes it like a man. Everyone knows how moody he is and I hope he doesn’t have any big outbreaks with the media. The Yanks don’t need this becoming a big story in the headlines right now.

  15. pat October 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    “I just hope we win that game,” Posada said. “That’s all I’ve got to say.”

    Me too.

  16. Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing October 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Here we go again. So tired of this Posada/Molina debate. At least there is a resolution on the Yankees end. Which would mean debate over. Molina is catching. Nothing we can do about it. The end.

  17. Noreaster October 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    It’s too bad that Molina is going to catch AJ, but you have to go with the guy who AJ believes will give him the best chance to win. In the playoffs its all about starting pitching and timely hitting. Hopefully someone else will get the hits/walks when Posada is sitting.

  18. Gates October 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Well Posada wasn’t caught off-guard by it, so clearly things were not as rosy as some people made it out to be.

  19. MT October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    This one is on AJ, not the manager and not Posada. The guy couldn’t get out of his own head and now the circular lineup is no longer circular — it’s a darn horseshoe.

    Honestly, he helped team chemistry with pie and hurt it with pitching – how ironic.

    Having said all that, I want him to succeed in a very big way. He’ll never be my favorite because I think he’s weak… but he wears the pinstripes. So go AJ and Molina.

    I’m bummed.

  20. jennifer October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Jorge is clearly not happy. Can’t say that I blame him. It isn’t like we have Johnny Bench as our backup catcher. But Jorge needs to put his pride aside and root like heck for his team.

  21. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Its not really that big of a deal to me. It was pretty obvious the entire season that Burnett and Jorge had issues and didn’t look very comfortable with each other like the way Molina and Burnett look.

    If Burnett doesn’t pitch well he will be out of the game and Posada will be back in. So maybe it would only be like 2 at bats. If Burnett pitches well there really wouldn’t be a need for Posada’s bat, because AJ can shut down a lineup.

  22. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    AJ darn well better be on his game.

  23. Noreaster October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Hey, Jorge off the bench in the 7th inning isn’t a bad thing either…

  24. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I’m working on getting Posada and Burnett into the same room and discussing this like adults.

    Using Nick in SF and Trisha as a model – I will attempt a truce not a peace treaty.

    If that doesn’t work I have a back-up plan. Pay Per View battle under the O’Neill banner at 3 pm. Mrs. Posada vs. Mrs. Burnett. No children. No husbands. No weapons.

  25. Lori October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I think we need to hear Posada’s audio. When he says “I just hope we win that game,” does he mean, (a) “this was a bad decision and I hope that it all works out” or (b) “I will do anything necessary to win, so if this is what it takes, I will support that decision.” I’m hoping it is (b) as I don’t want them going into the post-season with any hint of bitterness among them.

  26. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    DT-

    Just good old fashioned hairpulling????

  27. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Doesn’t seem like Jorge was exactly enthused by this decision. Don’t blame him, either, and I am not about to expect Molina to get some big hit due to underestimating him, etc. His job is to get Burnett through innings with having him melt down, preferably through more than 5 of them. As Posada alluded to, both guys better be able to pull that off considering the concessions are being made just for that.

  28. m October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Repost:

    m
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
    Neither trisha nor I said that “Posada is awful behind the plate”.

    I think both of said that Jorge can’t catch every game in a 162 game season. He’s going to need some burn, so why not hook him up with AJ?

    There were some who said some not nice things about Posada, but they’re neither here nor there since then.

    I think that AJ’s hook is difficult to catch, similar to Wakefield. Why not give him the backstop that allows him to throw it without worry?

    And for the record, I would be fine with an AJ/Jorge battery always and forever.

    ===========================================

    Rocco,

    Thanks for that. Greatly appreciated.

  29. MaineYankee October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    I wish Jorgie revealed this sooner. So much futile debating, all for naught

    ———————————————

    That could be the case no matter when it was announced.

  30. Amy October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    a) Call me foolish, but I trust Girardi. I think he knows what he’s doing… he’s no more psychic than the rest of us, he’s just doing what he thinks is right to get us to the next round.

    b) “Charlie
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
    Posada needs to stay away from giving attitude. His best friend the Captain should have a few words with him.”
    Agreed. Love ya, Jorgie, but attitude is not what we need right now.

  31. Hugh Stacks October 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    “I just hope we win that game,” Posada said. “That’s all I’ve got to say.”

    Is he kidding with this bull$hit? Way to bring on unneeded questions about the clubhouse atmosphere one day before the playoffs. What a shame, how do you think Molina feels after seeing this? I know you want to compete especially this time of year, but the team is bigger than you Jorge; grow up and take a page out your best friend Jeter’s book when it comes to handeling situations like this.

  32. Torro October 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    That scene in Fenway Park in late August where AJ gave up 9 runs in 2 innings, had those histrionics on the mound, shouted “WHY WHY WHY would you throw that” and Posada said after the game that it was frustrating to keep getting shaken off….. that was probably the last straw.

    People tried to diminish it, but that was the beginning of the end. And then Joe gave them one last shot in the Baltimore game and AJ gave up 6 runs and 11 hits in 5 innings, blowing 3 leads in the process. That was probably the last straw.

  33. NYYanksFan October 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    This should take the A-Rod postseason can he can’t he debate off the the front burner until AJ pitches.

  34. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    AJ darn well better be on his game.

    =====================

    I second this.

  35. 46fan October 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    The media will make a big deal out of this – they will debate it and discuss it ad nauseum and haunt Jorge about it – I hope Jorge says “nothing to discuss” and walks away….

  36. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    DT-
    Just good old fashioned hairpulling????

    No Erica – anything goes. We need ratings. Yankee Reality TV.
    Eat your heart out Yankeeography.

  37. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Jorge is upset and he has every right to be. I blame Joe, but mostly I blame Linus Burnett. What a joke…AJ pitched very well in July and August with Jorge behind the plate. This implies that AJ almost blames Po for his slump in August. I despise personal catchers and I have lost all respect for AJ. He’s going to have some patching up to do in that clubhouse because I’m sure he’s lost respect in that clubhouse. The TWins and Tigers are thrilled because this weakens the Yankees lineup considerably

  38. Alex October 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    The sad thing is that I would be less annoyed if Cervelli were the Yanks’ backup.

  39. Sharp J October 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    If this decision backfires… AJ and Girardi are going to be crucified and probably lose their standing in the clubhouse. The old guard will NOT take kindly to Jorge being treated this way.

    This move could erase all the good will that Joe built up among the old guard.

  40. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Looks like we’re heading into the postseason tomorrow with a nice healthy dose of team spirit.

  41. Lance October 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Linus Burnett… lol Betsy. Nice.

  42. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Are you kidding, Hugh? LOL Jorge very likely had to bite his tongue and good for him that he was able to.

    I don’t want to see any more freaking pies from AJ anymore….

  43. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    “I just hope we win that game,” Posada said. “That’s all I’ve got to say.”

    This does not sound like a man who is happy with this decision.

    Obviously he hopes they win the game. We all hope they win every game they play no matter what stage it’s on.

    Man… I didn’t think it would come to this.

    I sure hope Burnett pitches good enough to make it worthwhile.

  44. S.o.S. October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Hugh Stacks,
    100% agree. That comment shot off the page. Like this needs more fuel than it already has. He gets in these hissy fits like when he didnt want to be replaced late in innings coming off of shoulder surgery. Jorge needs to remember he is the leader of this team and act like the success of the team is all that matters.

  45. NYYanksFan October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    “grow up and take a page out your best friend Jeter’s book when it comes to handeling situations like this.”

    When has Jeter had to handle a situation like this?

    A page from A-Rod or Tino’s book would be a better suggestion.

  46. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Betsy you are right – it does weaken the lineup considerably. Absolutely no argument.

    However – if it ends up meaning AJ pitches 7 innings of 1 run ball it will be worth it.

  47. Patrick VA October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    That was a pretty dumb quote by Jorge

    “We better win that game, that’s all I gotta say?”

    Or else what Jorge? How about saying you will support whatever decision the manager makes and will do whatever is asked to help the team?

    This thing is being handled terribly by everyone, all around.

  48. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Hopefully, AJ will pitch game 3, not games 2 and 5.

    Girardi had a month when the Yanks had it locked up to get AJ and Jorge on the same page, and he blew it.

    If the Yanks lose AJ’s start 3-2 I’ll look forward to reading what the Molina/Girardi apologists have to say the day afterwards.

    Girardi was a weak hitting catcher – maybe that’s why he’s going with Molina.

  49. andrew harts October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    The sad thing is that I would be less annoyed if Cervelli were the Yanks’ backup.
    —————————————————————
    I agree with that, if only his bat were a little better and his arm was a little better as well. Molina has post season experience so that works well in his favor. But i agree with what someone else said, once AJ finishes the game, youve gotta pull Molina and put Jorge in the game

  50. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    I think Chad’s first official question on the Yankee beat should be this:

    “So Jorge, who WAS the last catcher to hit a home run in the old Yankee Stadium?”

  51. MT October 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Listen to the video before you judge.

  52. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    S.o.S.
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
    Hugh Stacks,
    100% agree. That comment shot off the page. Like this needs more fuel than it already has. He gets in these hissy fits like when he didnt want to be replaced late in innings coming off of shoulder surgery. Jorge needs to remember he is the leader of this team and act like the success of the team is all that matters.

    ——————————————–

    I agree it is Posada’s own fault. He had the whole season to get on the same page with Burnett but couldn’t. If Molina can prevent Burnett from having a meltdown on the mound than this is the right decision.

  53. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Here’s how I see it-

    Burnett pitches, Molina catches, Matsui DHs

    If mentally it makes Burnett more comfortable, then I am for it. Winning is what matters. I trust the people who run the team may know more about the situation that people reading this blog.

    The offense is strong enough to carry a weak 9-spot catcher.
    IF the lineup can’t handle having Molina in the 9 spot and we are losing the game, Posada can pinch hit in the later innings once AJ is out of the game. I think its going to be okay. Really

  54. S.o.S. October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    DT,
    Will there be any oil or mud involved for an extra bonus? Better yet, will this be an adults only viewers pay per view? I LIKE IT!!

  55. MT October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Oh and listening to audio is probably a better way to go about it, lol

  56. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    1. rest Jorge throughout the regular season
    2. enter short playoff series
    3. substitute Jorge out for a 45 OPS+ catcher
    4. ????
    5. PROFIT!

  57. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    I think Chad’s first official question on the Yankee beat should be this:

    “So Jorge, who WAS the last catcher to hit a home run in the old Yankee Stadium?”

    ****

    Not just catcher. He was the late player. PERIOD

  58. jashell2000 October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    I’m more worried about AJ imploding than lossing Posada’s 3 at-bats (which is not a for gone conclusion yet).

    Posada can be in there and go 3for3, but if AJ gives up 6-7ER it won’t matter. It’s the playoffs. You do what you have to do to win, and you do the things that made you successful all year in the playoffs and hope the success continues.

    The Yanks have gone with this battery during the regular season and had success, so Molina catching AJ is not a new phenomenon. I liked Posada’s response. “I just hope we win the game”. Props to Girardi for making a gutsy call like this. Now its up to AJ.

    Oh..and I’m not in the group of “how will this look next year”. I want them to win THIS year first before we even start having that conversation. Lets-go-yankees.

  59. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Torro, that recent Baltimore game was Molina……I really suspect he’s going to have problems in that clubhouse now, but he brought it on himself.

  60. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Umm- last, not late

  61. Cindy G October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    “Love ya, Jorgie, but attitude is not what we need right now.”

    Amen. Everyone who’s crucifying AJ: you shouldn’t let Jorge off the hook either.

  62. Gold 98 October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Talk about throwing fuel on the fire… just shut up Jorge.

    Be a team leader and give us a politically correct quote. Now the papers are all going to harp on this clubhouse friction going into the postseason rather than the great 103 win team we ha7ve.

  63. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    “However – if it ends up meaning AJ pitches 7 innings of 1 run ball it will be worth it.”

    The problem is, it doesn’t mean that. It just means we have a huge hole in the lineup, when we could have had a really good hitter.

    If you think Molina means a good outing outing for sure from AJ, check the September 12th and August 22nd box scores.

  64. kd October 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    did tex hit in the playoffs last year for the angels?

  65. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    I think it will be okay too. And I don’t really blame AJ – everyone and their grandma knows AJ is a head case.

    Jorge, on the other hand, is supposed to be a team leader. What kind of quote is that? “I just hope we win that game”?

  66. Erick October 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    AJ’s start with Molina at home vs. Baltimore was one bad pitch to Roberts… other than that he was lights out for 6 innings.

    with his Baltimore start with Posada.. he gave up runs in every inning and was unable to settle down even after we kept giving him the lead back.

  67. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    Here’s how I see it-

    Burnett pitches, Molina catches, Matsui DHs

    If mentally it makes Burnett more comfortable, then I am for it. Winning is what matters. I trust the people who run the team may know more about the situation that people reading this blog.

    The offense is strong enough to carry a weak 9-spot catcher.
    IF the lineup can’t handle having Molina in the 9 spot and we are losing the game, Posada can pinch hit in the later innings once AJ is out of the game. I think its going to be okay. Really

    ———————————————

    Even with Molina batting 9th. The lineup is still stronger and better than both the twins and tigers lineup.

  68. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Patrick, he said “I HOPE” we win the game, not we’d better. Jorge has handled this fine………this is embarrassing. Darrin, it really wasn’t worth it no matter what. AJ pitching well has nothing to do with who is behind the plate….and it’s pathetic that he thinks it does. So, in essence, he’s blaming Po for his slump. Joe would not have made this decision if he didn’t get the vibe or a request from AJ. Where Joe made his mistake was not forcing AJ and Jorge to figure it out together.

    I agree that Joe is going to have some repairing to do of his relationships in the clubhouse, but mostly AJ is the one. I really think he lost a lot of respect…….

  69. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    “Jorge, on the other hand, is supposed to be a team leader. What kind of quote is that? “I just hope we win that game”?”

    You kind you make upon recognizing you aren’t sending your best team out on the field.

  70. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    October 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
    “I think both of said that Jorge can’t catch every game in a 162 game season. He’s going to need some burn, so why not hook him up with AJ?”
    m-
    that’s why i said he should have caught the fifth starter or joba during the season.
    the yankees don’t need the back up catcher giving the starter a rest in the playoffs.

    do you think redmond is going to give mauer a rest in the playoffs?
    not going to happen, but redmond will catch 20% of the games during the season.

    molina and burnett should never have been allowed to become paired with each other because it was known burnett would be the #2 starter.

    i just don’t think the yankees realized how maintenance aj burnett is.
    next year as gb7 has said, they’ll get burnett used to posada so this doesn’t happen again.

  71. Alex October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    kd, Tex hit .467 with 4 walks, 4 runs and 1 RBI in the 4 games of the ALDS last year.

  72. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    it is a gamble but i agree that the yankees have 8 other starters who should be able to carry that offense for 6 innings until posada comes in.

    It is hardly likely that one AB from Molina will mean the game, and it is almost 100% guaranteed that posada is in by the 6th or 7th inning depending on how burnett pitches.

  73. JasonR October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    It’s all about pitching. If AJ is more comfortable with Molina, then you have to go with Molina. There’s enough firepower in the offense to make up for Jose’s lack of a bat.

  74. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    If AJ can’t pitch to Jorge, the Yanks should trade him in the off season and get a pitcher who can.

  75. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Wave Your Hat – Of course you can’t guarantee anything. I didn’t mean to suggest that Molina catching AJ would be a surefire success. But somehow Girardi thinks that is the best way to go right now. It does work in reverse too – having Posada in the lineup won’t mean anything either if he goes 0 for 4.

  76. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    It wasn’t just one bad pitch and 6 runs is still 6 runs……LOL What is wrong with Jorge saying he hopes we win the game? He means that winning is what is important.

  77. Keyboard Baseball October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    So where are all the know it alls now who mocked the people saying that Molina might start a playoff game?

  78. gregore October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Exactly Darrin. Right on point. A well pitched game by AJ makes up for any lost run support by having Posada out of the line-up. It was a tough decision that Girardi had to make that had risk both ways. But the upside of a well pitched game by AJ is worth more than Posada’s bat. And if Girardi has proved anything this year he has a good feel for his staff.

  79. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    if the yanks cant win with molina they dont deserve to win…even with molina their lineup is much better than the twins or tigers and most if not all playoff teams

  80. KWAN October 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    You don’t think Joe had private conversations with Burnett before making this decision? And Burnett maybe expressed his prefernce for Molina to him?

    You don’t think Cashman, who was in meetings with the coaching staff discussing all this yesterday, didn’t have his input as well on a decision this big?

    There is not just one person who made this thing come to fruition. There is not one scapegoat.

  81. Lori October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Listening to the audio file – clearly Posada is biting his tongue, but certainly the “I just hope we win that game” sounds like a statement of support to me — I want to win, and I want to win that game, so whatever it takes.

  82. Mike JL October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Bingo, ralphie.

    If this team is as good as we think it is… Molina will not hinder them from winning games. We’ve won plenty of games against good pitchers with Molina in there.

    It is up to the rest of the team to step up.

  83. MelkyIsGod October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    UPDATE, 1:50 p.m.: The team is in a meeting right now and will be on the field closer to 2:30 p.m. Girardi, CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira will have press conferences near the end of the workout

    Will This be televised on YES?

  84. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Rex – I think we can ALL agree that Molina in the lineup is not the best Yankee lineup. But that obviously wasn’t my point.

    My point was why say that publicly?? What is to be gained from a team standpoint?

  85. Tank October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    “If AJ can’t pitch to Jorge, the Yanks should trade him in the off season and get a pitcher who can.”

    Good luck getting someone to take that contract.

  86. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Well their best chance of winning is if AJ pitches like the guy they signed.

    As unfortunate as it may be, I guess Girardi (and probably AJ )decided that Molina makes that scenario more likely than Posada.

    It is what is is.

  87. Joe October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    This whole AJ-Molina BS is pretty ridiculous. And in all honesty, Posada has every right to not like the whole thing. The dude has cather every super start pitcher and they for the most part get along, Why can’t AJ?

  88. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Kwan, yes…..that is why I put this on AJ for the most part. As I said, Joe should never have let it come to this…….but AJ is mostly to blame for being too selfish to realize that Posada behind the plate gives the team the best chance to win. Sorry, the argument that we have a good enough lineup to win is lame and I don’t buy it for a moment.

  89. Gates October 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    The LoHud Twitter says:

    Posada just said he talked to Girardi Sun. He was told Molina will catch Burnett in ALDS. “We just better win that game,” Posada said. 31 mins ago

    Ouch.

  90. jennifer October 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Oh come on. Jorge said what EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS THINKING! They better win that game if one of the Yankees best offensive players is sitting on the bench!

  91. Paco Dooley October 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Jorge can be a real baby. He’s supposed to be the tough leader, but after his elbow incident earlier this year and the lack of professionalism he is showing here, I don’t think he is such a leader. He’s no Jeter…

  92. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    “Well their best chance of winning is if AJ pitches like the guy they signed.”

    He’s been “the guy they signed” all year.

  93. Joe October 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    That scene in Fenway Park in late August where AJ gave up 9 runs in 2 innings, had those histrionics on the mound, shouted “WHY WHY WHY would you throw that” and Posada said after the game that it was frustrating to keep getting shaken off….. that was probably the last straw.
    ___________________________
    Very true – and AJ never got rocked like that vs boston while with the Jays. Jorge is combustible, I think he’s a great Yankee. But sometimes Pitchers need their favorite catcher, it happens and its not uncommon.

  94. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Lots of awkward silence, he’s not comfortable talking about it. But the written word looks way worse than the spoken word.

    I have every confidence that all people involved can move past this.

    Histrionics will probably be reserved for message boards and blogs.

  95. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “Jorge can be a real baby”

    He’s not 10% the baby Burnett apparently is.

  96. E-gawa October 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Forget about the regular season. Alot of people thought that this was going to be a good team for the long run. It didn’t take much of a managers influence for that to happen.

    The postseason is a completely different animal and decisions like this can change the entire outcome. This is where Girardi is going to be defined as a manager. I can see both sides of the argument for Molina/Posada. I just hope his choice is right.

  97. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    >AJ’s start with Molina at home vs. Baltimore was one bad
    >pitch to Roberts… other than that he was lights out for 6 innings.

    Are you kidding me?!

    One bad pitch?!

    http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/gx8FY

  98. MT October 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Hopefully Posada is taking it better than I am because I am very disappointed. I had no problem with his quotes – after listening to the audio, I thought he was pretty classy.

    I’m doing my best to put my faith in Girardi — but all I’m left with feeling is that AJ can’t step up. With the questions that AJ will get, that Molina will get and that Jorge already got, it’s a ‘thing’…

    Now there is no room whatsoever for suckage. He has more pressure on him now than he did with Jorgie. And no one else to blame.

  99. Seven October 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Francesa said yesterday he was going through Burnett numbers with Molina and Posada. He said 5 out of 17 Burnett starts were bad with Posada behind the plate. And only 1 out of 11 starts were bad with Molina behind the plate. It really is a no brainer judging by those numbers.

    David Cone didn’t want to have Posada catch him and neither did Mussina. I guess you can add Burnett to that list.

  100. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    “I just hope we win that game,” Posada said. “That’s all I’ve got to say.””

    posada didn’t say that with a bad attitude.

    he said it like” i just want to win that game”.

    listen to the audio before making judgements.

  101. Pel October 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I’d love to read what CB thinks about this.

  102. Sevrx October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Remember… AJ could have always gone to Joe and say he wants Posada in the lineup.

    I imagine Joe and AJ talked about this decision and it was AJ’s choice. They probably asked him who he was most comfortable with and wanted to throw to and he said Molina.

    If AJ wanted Posada in there, he could have said so. What is Joe going to say? No, I’m pairing you with the inferior hitting catcher even if you don’t want him?

  103. sevrox October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Burnett vs. Jorge vs. Jose

    You folks need to get a life.

  104. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    S.o.S.
    October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    DT,
    Will there be any oil or mud involved for an extra bonus? Better yet, will this be an adults only viewers pay per view? I LIKE IT!!

    I need to talk to Hank. He’s in charge of the new Yankee Reality series.
    I was thinking of using Mississippi Mud like the umps use to rub up the baseballs. Nice tie-in.

    Re: adult PPV version – Two versions would maximize advertising dollar potential.

    Kinda like the ads here – You got your Toyota and Fordham University ads and then Stiletto and Lace.

  105. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Shouldn’t lohud change their tweet? That’s not what Jorge said.

  106. pat October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Okay. I listened to the Posada audio.

    Now I’d like to hear the AJ audio of why he is or isn’t supportive of the decision for Molina to catch him.

  107. CountryClub October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    This explains why AJ is only getting 1 game this series. There’s no way they were going to sit Posada for 2 games.

  108. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    This doesn’t mean a whole lot, but in 8 postseason at bats, Molina is hitting. 375.

    Small sample size, blah blah blah, but he does have an odd knack for coming through at just the right time.

    This really might just be okay

  109. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Darrin:

    I hear what you’re saying. I’m more concerned about what can be gained from a team standpoint replacing a legitimate bat with a stiff.

    I just disagree with the whole thing and think it speaks a lot more to Burnett’s weak constitution than it does Posada.

  110. pat October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    randy l

    Understandably, he didn’t have a good attitude when he said it either

  111. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Someone out there with more time than I have-

    In the history of baseball, has a team ever started a back-up catcher over a healthy regular catcher in the post-season?

    Not looking for platoon or semi-platoon arrangements here, just one instance in the entire history of baseball when a true back-up has gotten the nod over an all-star or near all-star healthy starting catcher?

  112. Joey's Poodle October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Too bad Burnett is so weak-minded that he takes the decision out of his manager’s hands.

    I had little respect for this faux-adult toddler before; now none.

  113. Hokiehill October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    “We want to keep AJ happy, but what’s he going to do next year when Molina will, in all likelihood, be gone….and Girardi better sit Matsui if he’s struggling and let Jorge DH…..Jorge has ALWAYS been a spark plug in the playoffs….”

    I think the DH will be decided based on the matchup, but regardless you have to think that once Burnett exits the game that Posada will be behind the plate and Matsui in as the DH…

    One thing I do not like is this causing any possible termoil in what has been a turmoil-free locker room for 98% of the year.

  114. MT October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Excuse me, you screwed up the Tweet – fix it – that’s a BIG mistake!

  115. upstate kate October 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    I am sure Girardi gave this decision a lot of thought, knowing the media storm it would create. I don’t believe in personal catchers for the most part, but if Molina can keep AJ calm, it will be worth it.
    It is hard to watch Molina come to bat in a critical situation, but as has been pointed out, he can be pinch hit for.
    I can’t wait for the series to begin, so there will be a different topic of conversation.

  116. Mike October 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Why kill Jorge for being honest?

    He is right… we better win that game, that’s all that needs to be said.

    AJ and Joe could write their tickets out of town if this backfires.

  117. MelkyIsGod October 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    UPDATE, 1:50 p.m.: The team is in a meeting right now and will be on the field closer to 2:30 p.m. Girardi, CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira will have press conferences near the end of the workout

    Will This be televised on YES?

  118. Lori October 6th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    CountryClub – Well, if things go according to plan, all three starters will only get 1 game this series. . . :)

  119. REZ October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    “AJ’s start with Molina at home vs. Baltimore was one bad
    pitch to Roberts… other than that he was lights out for 6 innings.”

    lmao… AJ is that you?

  120. chris A October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Erica, your comments at 1:53 hit the nail on the head. AJ is the key to the Yankees this postseason. If he is more confident with Molina, so be it. Big picture, if Molina gets more than 2 at bats, that means we are scoring some runs anyway.

  121. Bill Porter October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Very big day today. I like the idea of Molina catching AJ as well; AJ just seems more comfortable with him back there. I guess we’ll see.

    on a side note I noticed that Pete made his first post over at the Globe 2.5 hours ago and still no comments. I think it’s going to be a different experience for him up there. I feel like someone should post something but I just can’t bring myself to go over there and do it. I suppose “Pete Who” may be an appropriate response at some level but I’m kind of reminded of the way I felt on my kid’s first day of school; I’d like to help but know I shouldn’t!

    Back to work.

  122. Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    After listening to the clip, you get a different context of how it was really said than how it was written.

    Plus, that tweet is very misleading and I dont think is Posada’s actual quote, if I am correct.

  123. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Posada sounds like someone kicked his dog. :cry:

  124. Yank1 October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I really hope we win on a walkoff in game 1… would be nice to start off the postseason with a Burnett pie… would be fitting.

  125. 4time October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Verlander or Pavano are licking their chops right now in Minneapolis….

  126. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    “Well their best chance of winning is if AJ pitches like the guy they signed.”

    He’s been “the guy they signed” all year.”

    True.

    But if he pitched like “the guy they signed” last season, then I doubt he would have had the opportunity to pitch like “the guy they signed” this season!

    At least for the Yankees. He could very well be pitching like “the guy they signed” for some other team.

    Then of course he would be pitching like ” the guy they didn’t sign”

    Makes sense?

  127. SJ44 October 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Why shouldn’t Posada be ticked off? Its a dumb decision.

    Greg Maddox’s insistence on having Eddie Perez catch him in the post-season instead of Javy Lopez probably cost the Braves 2 more rings.

    AJ Burnett isn’t Greg Maddox and he gets a personal catcher?

    Its a bad move.

    You don’t weaken the lineup for any pitcher, let alone AJ Burnett. Especially in a 3 out of 5 series.

    Not smart. Not smart at all.

  128. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    chris A
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
    Erica, your comments at 1:53 hit the nail on the head. AJ is the key to the Yankees this postseason. If he is more confident with Molina, so be it. Big picture, if Molina gets more than 2 at bats, that means we are scoring some runs anyway.

    ***

    Thanks Chris!!! :-)

  129. kd October 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    where are cb or sj?

    it might annoy them, but it’d be nice to see what they have to say

  130. Seymore October 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Can people stop this “old guard” nonsense?

    The clubhouse has been taken over… this is Swishers, Teixerias, CCs, AJs, Jobas, Hughes, Cokes’, Cano’s, Bruney’s etc. team now…. the new guard has established themselves this year. This team is getting younger and the old guard is on their way out.

    Joe has the right guys on his side… if the old guard doesn’t like him, too bad. The old guard’s influence on the clubhouse is diminished.

  131. Darrin October 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Rex: We agree.

    Everytime Jose comes to bat I feel nauseous. I think one important factor in all this is that even with Molina, the Yankees lineup is far superior than either the Twins/Tigers. In fact, if this series boils down to Jose Molina plate appearances we’re all in for major heart problems. Bottom line: The Yankees will either advance to the ALCS or not – but I have a feeling it won’t be because of Jose Molina.

    Down the line, however…this becomes a MUCH more important issue in an ALCS matchup.

  132. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Bronx Jeers:

    To me he’s always been the same guy. Only consistent thing about him is he’s wildy inconsistent.

  133. SCX October 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Everybody calm down. It will be fine. Either (1) AJ isn’t doing hot, so Molina will only be in there for 2-3 at-bats, after which relief pitchers and Jorge enter the game, and 2-3 at-bats by Molina won’t kill us, or (2) AJ does great, goes 7+ innings, which means we are probably rolling along fine and in position to win anyway (with Jorge available to PH in the 8-9th inning if it’s like 1-1).

  134. Central CT Yankee October 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Posada Walk off in Game 1 and AJ pies him…that would be classic…

  135. Can Man October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Cashman has the power to intervene, remember that.

    He must agree with this decision too.

    Nobody knows what happened behind closed doors or how good/bad the AJ/Jorge relationship really is.

  136. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    it’s not a personal catcher. Girardi made the decision. AJ would have lived with it if Posada caught. I highly doubt burnett outright asked for molina.

  137. 46fan October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Listen to the audio everyone – I have no doubt Jorge is upset and I don’t blame him for being so, but he in no way sounds like his quotes seem……I think he handled the questions very well, very calmly….

    And for those who are saying AJ did SO much better with Molina, he also threw a few lousy games with Molina behind the plate too…..

  138. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    pat -
    did you listen to the audio?

    i totally took it to mean ” he just wants the yankees to win that game”

    a lot of you are an embarrassment as yankee fans if you think posada wants to lose that game or was saying ” the yankees better win or else”.

    get a life.

    posada has been a part of the heart and soul of the yankees since he arrived.

    jeter, mo,posada, pettitte.

    no one cares more about winning than these guys.

    anyone who says they don’t is full of crap .

  139. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    SJ-

    I agree with you 100% but I thought Bobby Cox insisted on Lopez catching Maddux in the post-season – I didn’t recall Cox letting Maddux have a personal catcher then.

  140. Nick October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Wave Your Hat -

    Yes, backup catchers have been started in the postseason before over healthy starters. The Yankees did it in game 3 of the 2005 ALDS because Johnson preferred pitching to Flaherty. Of course, Johnson blew it that game, anyway, and when he was pulled after 3 innings, Posada came in for the rest of the game.

  141. Scott October 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    This friction could derail the season… especially if AJ doesn’t pitch well in game 2

  142. Free Mike Vick October 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    SCX,

    its not just about that one game….its much more then that. What if CC goes out tomorrow and lays an egg with posada catching? then what? You going to have Molina catch CC too? What about if the series goes 5 games? Molina going to catch game 5 for all the marbles?

    If Jorge Posada is the starting catcher…the play him as such! if he’s not…then put his a#$ on the bench and let molina catch the entire playoffs! But don’t play this back and forth…micromanaging game. this guy gets this catcher and that guy gets this catcher crap!

  143. Scott October 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Molina career numbers vs. game 2 starters–

    vs. Pavano 1-5
    vs. Verlander 1-4
    vs. Lester 5-11
    vs. Weaver 2-5, HR

    Relax folks. We’ll be fine. This is still a great team.

  144. Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing October 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Heres a question: If AJ pitches games 2 and 5, does that mean Molina catches both of those games?

  145. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    This is all really dumb.

    If you look at the big picture this year, AJ had 10 good starts with Posada and 10 good starts with Molina. He had great starts with Posada (remember the August 7th Boston game?) and with Molina, and he had bad starts with both catchers too.

    Girardi and Cashman never should have let it come to this. They had all of September to have AJ pitch to Posada and they didn’t do it – the blame, other than on AJ, is squarely on Yankee management.

    If you believe in linear weights, Posada is about .1 runs per plate appearance better than Molina – almost half a run over a game. That’s a lot to give up.

    It may work out but luck often doesn’t favor the stupid.

  146. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “After listening to the clip, you get a different context of how it was really said than how it was written.”

    christina-

    exactly right.

    i think a lot of people commented without hearing the tone of how it was said.

    he wants to win the game.

    that’s what he said.

  147. RalphieD (OPPC) October 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “Verlander or Pavano are licking their chops right now in Minneapolis….”

    im sure they are licking their chops at the rest of the yankee lineup too… >.>

    btw…pavano might hurt himself if he licks his chops to much

  148. MT October 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Fix the Tweet – or ReTweet… aren’t you journalists? What is wrong with you? He said HOPE we win that game not BETTER. Get it right.

  149. TZ October 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    4time October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Verlander or Pavano are licking their chops right now in Minneapolis….

    ————————-

    Why? Are they having Lobster tail for lunch?

  150. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Nick, I forgot that. The Big Unit often irritated me, and you reminded me of one reason.

  151. Patrick October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    This is a stupid move in my opinion but I guess Girardi knows best…

  152. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Been laying low these last few weeks of the season.

    Working a ton and keeping up with the posts but not the comments.

    Regarding this Posada/Burnett thing…… Did anyone stop to think maybe it was Girardi that decided to play Molina? Maybe AJ didn’t insist on having Molina, maybe Burnett didn’t even hint that. Maybe Girardi just felt Molina catching helped AJ pitch better.

    Before you start killing AJ you have to realize we don’t know what went on behind the scenes. And the final decision was always Girardi, Burnett wasn’t going to stomp his feet if he didn’t get his way.

    This could be the first move showing my biggest fear being realized…. Girardi overmanaging and getting tight in the postseason. This team has so much talent there’s no need to overthink things, micromanage, etc.

    What this news does say is that Burnett is pitching game 3 for sure IMO, no way Posada sits 2 games.

    That’s good because I don’t care about Pettitte and Burnett’s home/road splits. I care much more about having Pettitte pitch twice and the pivotal game 5.

    Don’t tighten up Girardi. Let the immense talent you have bring you home a championship.

    Its like that scene from Tommy Boy…gently pet the animal, don’t squeeze it and tear it to shreads (I love that scene).

  153. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    How could anyone expect Posada not to be disappointed?

    I said yesterday that if having Molina catch AJ gives AJ a psychological advantage, then you really have to do it, since baseball is a pitching-oriented game. The game is controlled first by the pitching. Jorge said it wasn’t like he didn’t see it coming. He’s no fool.

    I tend to agree with Randy l that more effort should have made to avoid pairing AJ with Molina during the season, especially as the end of the season was approaching. Because in the playoffs you want your best out there, and Jorge, offensively, is the best and gives the Yankees a more complete, circular, lineup. Jose Molina may have a nice game, but the likelihood is that he will not and he’s a dead-end at the bottom of that lineup.

    I’m sure Jorge will move on. The decision’s been made and announced and there is nothing more he can do. The “powers that be” feel that in order for AJ to have his best game, he needs to have Molina catching him. I’m sure Posada has no quarrel with Girardi, et al. wanting to put the team in the best position to win; I’m also just as sure he feels that he’s the guy who puts them in the best position. If they win, no one will care much how it happened. If AJ has a lousy game with Molina, I think you see Jorge next time.

    I have to say, as “okay” as I am, in the end, that Girardi made this very controversial, and very distracting decision, I do feel bad for Jorge. But a manager’s gotta do what a manager feels he’s gotta do. And I say it’s a distracting decision because imagine all the ink that’s gonna be used on this situation. It’s a big deal.

    And I wanna know what about next season? Likely Molina won’t be back. Does Girardi make sure, in ST, that Jorge and AJ get a working relationship established? Or does Cervelli (or whoever the backup catcher is) become AJ’s?

    I agree that for now, for the short-term, you can’t force an issue. So, path of least resistance is Molina/AJ. And Posada may not love the decision, but he is a team player and will deal with it. I seriously doubt that he will make this a bad situation. Privately, who knows? Publicly – he’ll make the best of it. In the audio, it was clear to me he was trying to be P.C. about it. Good for him.

  154. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Cox started forcing Maddux to pitch to Lopez after they went a few postseasons sticking with Lopez for the other guys, Perez for Maddux. I definitely remember Maddux pitching to Lopez late in his Braves tenure.

  155. Joe October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    So when Burnett is pitching, we’re gonna have our NL team outthere right? They won’t pitch to Melky to go after him. And then also, let’s just assume we make it to the WS, the bottom part of the line-up will be really interesting when Burnett pitches. Melky – Molina – Burnett. Very nice.

  156. SJ44 October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Its a personal catcher. When you take Jorge Posada out of the lineup, it means somebody has a personal catcher.

    Wave,

    IIRC, Eddie Perez caught a lot of post-season games for Maddox. I think Bobby had Lopez catch a game or two for Maddox but, not all of them. Could be wrong on that one though.

    The strength of this team is the depth in its lineup. It wears out pitchers. You know weaken your strength, making the team closer in value to an 86 win team.

    Makes no sense.

    It better work. If it doesn’t, and this team gets bounced again in the first round against an inferior opponent, some folks got a lot of explainin’ to do.

  157. Lou in SoCal October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Posada needs to get over it and be a team player. Posada isn’t the manager. Besides if Burnett doesn’t pitch well then Molina will get pulled and Posada will catch the rest of the game. If it works then I guess Molina get to catch AJ in the ALCS. I thought this was about the team and winning the World Series, not about Posada’s ego? Suck it up Posada and be the leader that you are!

  158. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    It’s sad to see that some fans can’t support the team. I hope you guys have other plans for A.J.’s start. I mean how can you watch a guy you hate or despise? And if you do watch, make sure you leave the room when Molina’s in the on-deck circle. Wouldn’t want to soil the new carpet by hurling your dinner.

  159. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I don’t understand why people are blaming AJ like he is a bad person because he works better with Molina. There have been a lot of pitchers with good stuff who worked better with the defensive catcher. One of the Toronto catchers who caught AJ(forgot his name) said that AJ’s stuff is sooo good that he is hard to catch. I like Posada like everyone else does but he isn’t that great behind the plate and we all saw he had trouble keeping AJ’s curveballs infront of him. It isn’t a knock on him it is true and AJ needs a better defensive catcher behind the plate than Posada is. Posada even had trouble a couple of times with CC when he threw a nasty slider.

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  161. G. Love October 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I’m upset about this move.

    Posada deserves the start unless he’s injured. His offense in the 6 hole is so important. It’s literally like starting Cody Ransom at 3b over Arod offensively.

    All this does is put more pressure on AJ who now has to justify being afforded a personal catcher.

  162. Matt October 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSzdgz2ZLs

  163. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Heres a question: If AJ pitches games 2 and 5, does that mean Molina catches both of those games?

    ===========================

    I would think so.

  164. Todd October 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    A few years ago when Varitek was actually a somewhat decent hitter, he was replaced when Wakefield pitched,even in the playoffs……

  165. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    “Heres a question: If AJ pitches games 2 and 5, does that mean Molina catches both of those games?”

    i’ve said several times that i think girardi is deciding game by game.

    what if burnett gets bombed with molina catching?

    or what if it’s low scoring game and molina leaves the base loaded a few times?

    when game five comes girardi will have to make a fresh decision.

    …. and has it actually been announced that burnett is getting two games?

  166. Hugh Stacks October 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    SJ44– “Why shouldn’t Posada be ticked off? Its a dumb decision.”

    Every person playing in MLB would be ticked off at a decision like this if it involved them sitting, especially if it was a verteran player like Posada. With that said it is not the point if it is a dumb decision or not. This decision has been made by Girardi and that is it. You are a professional baseball player and it is out of your hands, so deal with it like a professional. It does no good to say something like “I just hope we win that game…That’s all I’ve got to say.” All that does is bring in more attention and questions for every other person in that clubhouse, and even more so for AJ and Molina, which is completely unacceptable.

  167. pat October 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    randy l

    I did listen to the audio. What you heard as not a bad attitude, I heard as understandable disappointment.

    Hearing disappointment in his voice doesn’t mean I need to get a life or that Jorge wants them not to win.

    It just means he sounded disappointed in the decision for him not to be playing.

  168. Kernal October 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    miggs,

    Then it is Cashman’s job to step in. He was involved in the meeting yesterday… as the GM, he should have made Joe pair AJ/Jorge if it was only Joe’s decision.

    That makes me think it wasn’t Joe’s decision. AJ must have said something to him.

  169. JasonR October 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    “Heres a question: If AJ pitches games 2 and 5, does that mean Molina catches both of those games?”

    Yes, but announcing Molina is catching Burnett could be a roundabout way of saying Burnett is pitching Game 3 only.

  170. SJ44 October 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Forget this “Posada needs to get over this” crap. No, he doesn’t need to “get over this”. Its a slap in his face AND it weakens the team.

    Two things you don’t want heading into the post-season.

    They either better win this series in less than 5 games or AJ Burnett better get used to pitching to Posada in a Game 5.

    If the Yankees reach a Game 5 in an ALDS, and Jorge Posada is on the bench, they better win or the manager should be fired.

    You have a team that has won 103 games this year and has had next to zero issues.

    A day before the start of the post-season, they self-create an issue where there doesn’t have to be any.

    Certainly not the way you want to go into the post-season.

  171. saucY October 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    this news of Molina catching AJ is no shock. and it’s no shock that Posada is feeling funny about it. he should feel that way. I’d be on the fence if I was forced to make the decision of who catches AJ, but I’ll trust my teams coaches and management…

    oh yeah, and I got myself a field level seat if there’s a game 5!!! :D :D :)

  172. 55 Matsui October 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Do people realize that Cashman was in this meeting yesterday too?

    This isn’t Joe Torre… Cashman has power over Girardi and won’t get a fight from Girardi if Cashman requests a certain move.

    Why would Cashman agree with this move unless there was legit friction behind closed doors between Jorge and AJ?

    You must have a real low opinion of Joe/Cashman if you think they want to purposefully weaken their team for no reason.

  173. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    If the Yanks face the Tigers, AJ is pitching against Verlander. Now some stats against Verlander, Matsui is 4-12 .333 average, Posada 1-10 .100. I think that answers everyones question on who is DHing in that game.

  174. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    SJ44-

    You are probably right on Maddux and Perez. I guess I was thinking about the later Braves’ postseasons, not the earlier ones.

    But this is a mistake. It’s like having a pitcher bat instead of the DH. With Molina in the 9 hole, it becomes easier to pitch to the whole end of the lineup because you can work around guys knowing you can then pitch to Jose.

    I see arrogance and over-confidence here, not to mention a tendency to over-manage and over-think these things.

    miggs-

    your comment was on target, IMO.

  175. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Wow -

    Post the audio, we hear the words “I just hope we win that game,” but tweet to the world at large a more belligerant “we better win that game.” Not good at all.

    And this is what is going to happen. This situation just handed all the baseball media a controversy on a silver platter. Not that you should manage a game in a way to avoid controversy, but, heck, this was truly a year where there was very little real controversy on this team. Everything going hummingly along. Well, I guess there has to be something to write about. The Chamberlain story is a little stale.

  176. frits October 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    this is f*cking dumb as hell.

  177. Cindy G October 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    “I did listen to the audio. What you heard as not a bad attitude, I heard as understandable disappointment.”

    You’re right. It wasn’t an attitude thing like it read.

    In any case, the mantra is pitching, pitching, pitching. Hopefully this move helps the odds. Then, if needed, Jorgie enters the game late and wins it.

  178. Tom K October 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    1. We shouldn’t say “Well, now we have Posada as a PH in the late innings!” Using that logic, Jerry Hairston should start at third, and Hinske should start at first. I’d rather have Posada potentially impact the entire game than impact one random situation in the late innings that may never come about anyway.
    2. The debate about “personal catcher” is a bit meaningless – if Posada isn’t playing, it’s because the other catcher is preferred for that pitcher. There is no other explanation. Molina is Burnett’s personal catcher.
    3. I am sure Jorge is disappointed about not playing, and I would be as well. I didn’t see his quotes as being anything to get worked up about.
    4. As for AJ, I still laugh when I hear people say things like, “If he is the pitcher he signed…” Guess what? He’s been the pitcher the Yankees signed. Since Day 1. His ERA+ this year is one point lower than his career average, and BETTER than his 2008 number. (though other numbers aren’t quite as good as they were last year).
    5. Bottom line? Win the game, and nobody cares. If Burnett has a terrible start, Girardi can find himself on the hot-seat very quickly..even after a 103-win season. Those are the types of decisions that can put you in instant hot water, as it’s a decision that is criticized from the start – no hindsight here. If it doesn’t work, it’s going to create a major backlash.

  179. Free Mike Vick October 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

  180. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I’m on hold with Kay, lol

  181. Sara October 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Posada is a grumpy old man. Who cares..Molina is a better defensive catcher anyway. The rest of this line up should be able to pick up Jorge’s slack. I mean give me a break this isn’t the end of the world. A pitcher is more valuable in a playoff game then one grumpy old catcher who stands and looks at strike three more than anyone I have ever seen. Jose Molina is a professional catcher. It’s not like they are throwing Cervelli in there. AJ isn’t the first pitcher in the last few years who pitches better to anyone but Jorge! Besides, I am sure the media is blowing it up to more than it is. Posada will either pinch hit or DH, no biggie.

  182. Lori October 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Thanks to Josh for fixing the tweet – he has the more accurate quote up there now.

  183. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    “IIRC, Eddie Perez caught a lot of post-season games for Maddox. I think Bobby had Lopez catch a game or two for Maddox but, not all of them. Could be wrong on that one though.”

    Perez did catch Maddux in the 1997 and 1998 playoffs. He caught everyone in 1999 because Lopez was hurt. Maddux also seemed to favor Charlie O’Brien in 1995. Lopez did catch Maddux throughout the 1996 playoffs.

  184. Anthony October 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    The only way Girardi should be in trouble, or fired, if this thing blows up is if he went against Cashman’s wishes to do this.

    Considering Girardi and Cashman met yesterday and probably ironed this out, I imagine that Cashman has approved it.

  185. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Slap in the face? Man up Posada.

  186. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Betsy!

    I’m turning on the radio ASAP.

  187. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    But this is a mistake. It’s like having a pitcher bat instead of the DH. With Molina in the 9 hole, it becomes easier to pitch to the whole end of the lineup because you can work around guys knowing you can then pitch to Jose.

    ____

    Again, if the yankees cant win with 8 sluggers instead of 9, they dont deserve it anyway. The lineup can survive with Molina catching 6 innings (2-3 abs)

  188. Christina- Pics of the Old Stadium.. so depressing October 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Thanks for the responses guys. I haven’t gotten into the Posada/Molina debate, but I think I might find myself involved if Molina is going to be catching 2 games in the ALDS (of course that’s pending if Burnett is pitching both of those games)

  189. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I’m on hold with Kay, lol

    ======================

    Go betsy! :)

  190. ITC 99 October 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Cashman and Levine intervened Girardi during the A-Rod-rest saga…. you really think they wouldn’t do the same for this Posada ordeal if they disagreed with it and didn’t feel there was a valid reason to do it?

  191. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    “It isn’t a knock on him it is true and AJ needs a better defensive catcher behind the plate than Posada is. Posada even had trouble a couple of times with CC when he threw a nasty slider.”

    this is just BS and a myth that it’s so hard to catch burnett. or cc.

    the bullpen catcher can catch them and does.

    ask sj44 if his nephew has trouble catching a pitcher who has good stuff.

    it’s no harder than playing catch.

    it’s not at all the big deal some of you are making it out to be.

    pro catchers are pro catchers for a reason.

    the reason a breaking ball is nasty is if you aren’t expecting it.

    breaking balls are nasty to hitters.

    breaking balls that are expected are just breaking balls to the catcher. no big deal.

  192. Eric October 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    This is an absolutely terrible decision. I am disappointed in the entire Yankee organization for allowing Girardi to do this.

    http://www.ericperchuk.com/blo.....yoffs.html

  193. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Joe absolutely has a lot of explaining to do – he never should have let it come to this. AJ’s relationships with his teammates will never be the same………it’s his own fault.

  194. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    mel,

    I am happy that you set the record straight and do it in such a rational fashion. You are a good role model.

    ;)

    I did not post on Pete’s blog so lawlady is someone else.

    I’m wondering if there is a Yankees forum equivalent to SOSH (other than this one.) I’m thinking that a reason Pete might have trouble drumming up business is because SOSH is the Sux signature forum. I could be wrong.

    *******************************

    I said I believed Girardi knew best and that if he decided to go with Posada, I’d be fine with it – and I meant it.

    SJ, love you to death but you also guaranteed everyone here that Gaudin wouldn’t be on the postseason roster.

    I seriously can’t believe that any of you truly think you know better than Girardi – but reading your posts it’s evident that some of you do.

    I didn’t listen to the Posada audio but if he came across as having an attitude about it then he definitely should have checked it at the door or kept it behind closed doors. The Yankees don’t need a reason to have a press field day on the best of days – no need to add fuel to the fire or to make your teammates feel less than. There’s enough pressure just being in the postseason.

    Anyway, the decision is made and now we hope for the best. All I want is for the Yankees to win. I trust their manager. Best I can say.

  195. Toy Story Sid October 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    The charade is over!!!! God that was painful!
    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ll#addComm

  196. Frank October 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    The problem is that people want the team to be like some kind of Sesame Street episode… where everyone likes eachother and there is never any controversy. They won’t even acknowledge that there may be friction among Posada/AJ and everything is rosy.

    Not the way the world works, folks. None of us have any idea what the AJ/Jorge relationship really is or if there was any clubhouse friction. Girardi and Cashman do.

  197. Kat October 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    I just read Pete’s “greetings from gate A-20″ post on boston.com and was upset. Anyone else feel sad? (Not that we don’t love the coverage we’ve had from Sam so far).

  198. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    M, I don’t get your point. Just because we are Yankee fans mean we have to support the players no matter what they do? We went through this last night. My image now of Burnett is of him sucking his thumb and holding onto a baby blanket….Linus, that’s what he is to me. If Joe wasn’t going to take the lead on this, then AJ should have insisted. The real problem is that AJ thinks his slump had to do with Posada catching……….the man clearly can not take responsibility for his own performances. Forget the stupid pies….I am so disappointed in him. HOwever, what does that have to do with not supporting the team? I will root for him to do well because it helps the team, but that’s the extent of it.

  199. Dave October 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    m and trisha got it right all along.

    Never go against these 2 ladies… they know their stuff.

  200. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    betsy are you still on hold for Kay’s show? or did I miss you?

  201. Gopher October 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Is there a website or a link showing the Yankees records vs the Twins this year and the results of their games? Thanks in advance

  202. Cindy G October 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    I can’t imagine they would stick with the AJ/ Molina pairing if his first start goes badly and IF ….um, I mean WHEN… AJ pitches again.

  203. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    This is a Cashman and Girardi decision. If AJ isn’t comfortable with Posada do you want to just throw Posada out there? If Posada went 3-3 with 3 singles but AJ gave up 8 runs guess what the catcher’s offense meant nothing because the Yanks are losing.

  204. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    “All that does is bring in more attention and questions for every other person in that clubhouse, and even more so for AJ and Molina, which is completely unacceptable.”

    Absolutely. Unfortuntely Jorge has a fiery personality and while that is a great thing much of the time, it also operates to his detriment some of the time.

  205. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Frank
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
    The problem is that people want the team to be like some kind of Sesame Street episode… where everyone likes eachother and there is never any controversy. They won’t even acknowledge that there may be friction among Posada/AJ and everything is rosy.

    *****

    Derek Jeter= Ernie
    Jorge Posada= Bert
    Alex Rodriguez= Big Bird
    Johnny Damon= Elmo
    Nick Swisher- Cookie Monster

    Help me out with more :-)

  206. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Unfortunately I got disconnected and no one is answering the phone there anymore, lol.

  207. cardiganfox October 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Posada is a moron (yea I name called, big whoop). I don’t care what he has done in the past, he got paid more than handsomely for it. I don’t like people getting paid to do what is best for the team give lip and put pressure on their own teammates. I support the Yankees 100%, I don’t care if its Bernie Williams or Posada; no accomplishment is above the team, none. He has not earned speaking this way, he is no Derek Jeter. You can be disappointed sure, but shut your mouth about it and hope its a W.

    Yea, I am mad. We didn’t need that poison when everything has been going so good.

  208. Patrick October 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    I’d say this whole thing is 1 part A.J.’s fault, 1 part Girardi’s fault and 1 part the media’s fault. The goofy media has overreacted to this entire situation. A.J. pitches poorly when he pitches poorly, it has nothing to do with the catcher. He doesn’t always pitch badly when Posada is catching and he doesn’t always pitch well when Molina is catching.

    I’m ticked off that A.J. is so inconsistent, I’m more ticked off that the media has blown it way out of proportion and I’m even MORE ticked off that Girardi has capitulated to the stupid idea that Burnett can’t throw to Posada.

  209. Carl D. October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Yea…. I’m sure Swisher, CC, Teixeria, Damon, Cano, ARod, Hughes, Chamberlain, Aceves, Hinske, Hairston, Melky, Gardner etc. will turn against AJ and Joe if they lose game 2.

  210. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    betsy,

    The way you talked yesterday, it sounded like AJ was dead to you. Like you were supremely disappointed in him as a human being.

    So why watch the game when he’s on the mound? It’s obvious you can’t stand him.

    I’m going to watch every inning of every game because they’re the Yankees, not because who’s pitching or hitting.

  211. William Buckner October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    This is a classsic over managing decision.

    I can’t get over this. Molina is almost a given out. When he’s not, he’s almost never better then a single.

    So dumb it hurts and I refuse to hear otherwise.

  212. Carl October 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Carl D. October 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Yea…. I’m sure Swisher, CC, Teixeria, Damon, Cano, ARod, Hughes, Chamberlain, Aceves, Hinske, Hairston, Melky, Gardner etc. will turn against AJ and Joe if they lose game 2.

    lol

  213. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Dave,

    LOL. Not true, but thanks. That certainly won’t win you any friends here.

  214. sumo71 October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    this is so not a big deal. it’s like the yanks never won a game without posada this year. at the worst he comes off the bench late in the game. hell, he probably will dh. much to do about nothing. go back and look at the ’96 playoffs and look to see how many times joe t sat someone. this is the time of the year when you need all 25 men.

  215. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    I really don’t see how you can blame either player in this situation.

    Those killing Posada are really clueless. First of all, he said nothing inflamatory in the least. He answered a question and clearly tried to avoid controversy. Of course the guy wants to play, he’s a fierce competitor and that’s one of the things that makes him a great player. What did you expect?

    And Burnett, unless he pushed the issue and demanded Molina (which I highly doubt, given Burnett’s relationship with his teammates and his disposition) deserves no blame either. It is human nature to prefer something to something else and to have differing opinions.

    Girardi and Cashman are the decision makers. I don’t think Cash is ever going to push a decision like that on Girardi. In the end, Girardi makes the final call on moves like this. Otherwise, why even have a manager? Just let Cashman run the team from a suite upstairs.

    This move was fully endorsed (and possibly originated) from the manager. The players play. The manager makes these decisions.

  216. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    I guess it’s safe to assume you will label Phil Hughes Pigpen and renounce your love for him if he never shaves his mustache and calls Mike Harkey a bum, Betsy?

  217. upstate kate October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Erica-
    Posada = Oscar the Grouch??? (just kidding)

    hey, it could be worse, we could have a player out drinking w/ the opposing team just before an important game.

  218. Erick October 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    The pressure on Burnett in game 2 will be mindboggling… even more pressure than A-Rod or CC will have.

    If we go down in the ALDS… that Molina decision and the drama that ensued will be talked about for a LONG time…

  219. Ed H. October 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    1. There is no evidence that AJ asked Joe to have Molina catch him. This decision could have been Joe’s judgement about what is best for the team based upon what he has seen this year. Whether or not AJ asked for Molina, ultimately this is Joe’s judgement that catching Jose best enhances the team’s chances to win that game.

    2. People here are coming down hard on AJ. He bears some responsibility here for sure. So does Girardi, because he has been unable to resolve the situation during the year. However, don’t forget Posada. Front line pitchers (Cone, Mussina, Randy Johnson, AJ and perhaps CC too) have had issues with Georgie’s catching throughout his career. I don’t know whether the problems have been over Posada’s techniques, his attitude or both. The point is that Jorge has not changed what he has needed to change to make himself better. Throughout … his … career. Now we have this situation going into the playoffs. Yes, part of this is on Georgie.

  220. Nick in SF October 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    “It’s sad to see that some fans can’t support the team. I hope you guys have other plans for A.J.’s start. I mean how can you watch a guy you hate or despise? And if you do watch, make sure you leave the room when Molina’s in the on-deck circle. Wouldn’t want to soil the new carpet by hurling your dinner.”

    :(

  221. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    “Hearing disappointment in his voice doesn’t mean I need to get a life”

    i was referring to people that took it that posada doesn’t want to win that game.

    those people do need to get a life.

  222. pat October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    m

    :shock:

    Shutting off the TV to save the carpet was a bit hyperobolic.

    When you root for the laundry, you root for everyone wearing the laundry.

  223. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    upstate kate
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    Erica-
    Posada = Oscar the Grouch??? (just kidding)

    ****
    I was afraid to go there. LOL

    Instead I made him and Jeter Ernie and Bert because they are such BFFs

  224. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    sumo71
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    this is so not a big deal. it’s like the yanks never won a game without posada this year. at the worst he comes off the bench late in the game. hell, he probably will dh. much to do about nothing. go back and look at the ‘96 playoffs and look to see how many times joe t sat someone. this is the time of the year when you need all 25 men.

    *******

    Agree 100 %. Just about everyone saw this coming for a while now, including Posada.

    Erica- Marc Teixiera=Grover (?)

  225. Gopher October 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    ******************
    Is there a website or a link showing the Yankees records vs the Twins this year and the results of their games? Thanks in advance
    *****************

  226. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    M, I am a Yankee fan first and foremost and I’m sorry you think that my feelings for AJ would supercede that.

  227. MT October 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    If you didn’t listen to the audio then you shouldn’t comment on Posada’s temperament. That’s dumb.

  228. Lori October 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Way I look at this: if the series comes down to whether Molina or Posada is up during an at-bat or two, we have much bigger problems brewing. We have an awesome line-up that should be able to post enough runs each game. And if we need AJ to be comfortable so that he’ll be lights out, then we won’t be desparate for Posada’s bat for that one game. And if we are desparate for Posada’s bat at any time, there’s a thing called a “pinch hitter” – and then Posada will jump behind the plate, no matter who is pitching at that moment.

  229. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Another take on the Posada/Molina controversy.

    AJ seems to pitch better when he’s in a rhythm, not shaking off pitches and not having frequent visits to the mound,both of which should be easy to solve. As far as who is the better catcher at blocking the plate, with that nasty curve that AJ throws, I don’t give the edge to either.

    Who are we rooting for to win todays game?

  230. Sports Geek October 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    === Who’s HOT, Who’s NOT === (add-on to Sam’s earlier post)

    Seven of the starters were quite HOT in Sept/Oct:
    Teix: .333, 7 HR, 21 RBI, 1.056 OPS, 180 sOPS+
    A-Rod: .344, 7 HR, 30 RBI, 1.013 OPS, 170 sOPS+
    Posada: .318, 5 HR, 18 RBI, .999 OPS, 167 sOPS+
    Swish: .253, 7 HR, 12 RBI, .935 OPS, 150 sOPS+
    Cano: .339, 4 HR, 13 RBI, .910 OPS, 144 sOPS+
    Matsui: .314, 5 HR, 18 RBI, .898 OPS, 143 sOPS+
    Jeter: .336, 1 HR, 6 RBI, .824 OPS, 126 sOPS+

    Cabrera was “a little bit HOT”:
    Cabrera: .290, 2 HR, 19 RBI, .768 OPS, 108 sOPS+

    Damon & Gardner were NOT HOT:
    Damon: .247, 0 HR, 8 RBI, .664 OPS, 82 sOPS+
    Gardner: .250, 0 HR, 3 RBI, .599 OPS, 64 sOPS+, 48 AB

    Backup catcher:
    Cervelli: .438, 0 HR, 2 RBI, .938 OPS, 154 sOPS+, 16 AB
    Molina: .186, 0 HR, 2 RBI, .480 OPS, 33 sOPS+, 43 AB
    … Cervelli – “WOW”

    Other subs
    Pena: .333, 1 HR, 3 RBI, .857 OPS, 128 sOPS+, 21 AB
    Hinske: .206, 2 HR, 4 RBI, .682 OPS, 84 sOPS+, 34 AB
    Hairston: .171, 0 HR, 2 RBI, .521 OPS, 44 sOPS+, 35 AB
    … “Pena deserves consideration!”

  231. JasonR October 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Like with most things in baseball, if this works, Girardi is a genius. If it doesn’t, he’s an idiot.

    Only 27 more hours until the games begin. I can’t wait.

  232. Vader October 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    I also think it is a dumb move unless AJ throws a shutout.

    IMO, this means Cervelli is going to make the post season roster…we’ll see the ripple effects of this decision.

    Also, what happens if CC pitches like he did against Tampa on Friday night…will he want to throw to Molina in game four???

  233. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    pat,

    That’s what I mean! We should support all the players. Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up. I mean the condemnation is ridiculous.

    Laying it on thick? I’ve seen others do worse. But I’ve never seen a player take such abuse for a managerial decision.

  234. Stultus Magnus - back from Venice October 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    If AJ tanks but the Yanks somehow make it to the ALCS, then Posada better be behind the freaking plate.

  235. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    “So why watch the game when he’s on the mound? It’s obvious you can’t stand him.”

    If people required high character out of everyone on the field, nobody would watch any game, anywhere.

  236. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    this is just BS and a myth that it’s so hard to catch burnett
    ——————————-

    If it’s BS than why is Molina catching him over an all star catcher? I remember a couple of times when Posada had major issues blocking AJ’s curveball. Or he just looked lazy and didn’t try to go after it. If you are not a great defensive catcher I would think it would be harder to catch a pitcher with excellent off speed pitches and it would give you trouble.

  237. betsy October 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Andrew, I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not – hey, it’s just how I feel.

  238. Anthony Murillo October 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    It’s funny because let’s say Posada catches Burnett and he gets BOMBED. I gurantee you the very next day, most of you people here on this blog will post stuff like “GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT! HE SHOULD HAVE LET MOLINA CATCH BURNETT!!”.

    Can’t win either way. I personally don’t care. We still have Jeter, Damon, Teixeira, A-Rod, Matsui, Cano, and Swisher. Stop crying about Posada not being in the lineup for one night.

  239. m October 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Varitek doesn’t catch Wakefield. Of course the backup is usually an offensive upgrade. :)

  240. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Anthony Murillo
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    It’s funny because let’s say Posada catches Burnett and he gets BOMBED. I gurantee you the very next day, most of you people here on this blog will post stuff like “GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT! HE SHOULD HAVE LET MOLINA CATCH BURNETT!!”.

    **************
    LMAO. So, so true.

  241. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    I’m going to watch every inning of every game because they’re the Yankees, not because who’s pitching or hitting.

    ==============================

    m-aren’t we all going to be doing that?
    I hate this decision. Doesn’t mean I’m not hoping it works out somehow and we win. :)

  242. Nick in SF October 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    “Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up.”

    :(

  243. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Anthony Murillo October 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    It’s funny because let’s say Posada catches Burnett and he gets BOMBED. I gurantee you the very next day, most of you people here on this blog will post stuff like “GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT! HE SHOULD HAVE LET MOLINA CATCH BURNETT!!”.

    ===================================

    Well,not me dude. I wouldn’t be blaming Posada if AJ got bombed.

    I would be blaming AJ if AJ got bombed.

  244. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    If Burnett pitches game 2 and 5 I fully support and movement to tar and feather the manager.

    Francesa just suggested this could be the case, IMO no way Posada sits game 5. No way.

    If he does then Girardi should be banished to a wasteland far away.

  245. pat October 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    m

    “I’ve never seen a player take such abuse for a managerial decision.”

    Were you out of the country when Torre played Sheffield in the postseason and batted Alex 8th?

  246. Patrick from CT October 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Given that Molia is catching AJ, can we assume they are bringing 3 catchers? Molina will need a pinch hitter or runner come the 6th inning.
    I’ve always been of the opionion that AJ should pitch game 2. If it comes down to a game 5 and it’s AJ on the mound, Posada had better be behind the plate.

  247. upstate kate October 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    m-
    that Tek comment was the best! Actually isn’t v-mart catching in the play offs?

  248. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Erin-

    Nice. I like Tex as Grover. I will add him to the cast :-)

    Derek Jeter= Ernie
    Jorge Posada= Bert
    A-Rod= Big Bird
    Johnny Damon= Elmo
    Nick Swisher= Cookie Monster
    Mark Teixiera= Grover

  249. vinny-b (as AJ Burnett goes so will the yankees post season) October 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    wake me up when the b*ttch*ing is over with.

  250. crimmins October 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    You know what would really intensify this? A Yankee win in Game One thanks to Posada hitting a couple of dingers. And it could happen because an aggravated Jorge is a dangerous Jorge.

  251. m October 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    pat,

    I was here. But from what I recall, everything was rightfully directed at Torre for that one.

    Sheffield in the post season was somewhat understandable, but moving Alex down was inexcusable.

  252. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Erica:

    Cano and Melky: the Two Headed Monster

  253. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    27 hours, 0 minutes until Game 1

    75 hours, 0 minutes until Game 2 aka Judgement Day

  254. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    So funny, I haven’t been commenting on this blog for weeks.

    I’m here less than an hour and this Posada-Girardi-Burnett situation has me all fired up! LOL.

  255. Patrick from CT October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    “Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up.”

    ====================================

    I’m all for that.

    But if it comes to game 5, Posada has to be in the lineup no matter who is on the mound!

  256. Patrick from CT October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    “Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up.”

    ====================================

    I’m all for that.

    But if it comes to game 5, Posada has to be in the lineup no matter who is on the mound!

  257. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Erin
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
    Erica:

    Cano and Melky: the Two Headed Monster

    ****

    Love it!!!! You are REALLY good at this. LOL
    (I thought this nasty thready needed some levity)

  258. Stultus Magnus - back from Venice October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Hey Erica,

    Was there ever anything planned for Pete in NYC? A farewell party? Perhaps after the season is over? I’ve been out of touch for a bit.

    Thanks.

  259. pat October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up.”

    I’ll just pretend your feelings would be the same no matter who was catching him. :wink:

  260. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    If our pitching pitches to their capabilities and we don’t make costly errors, we’ll go to the WS and win. We need quality innings from our starters, pitching with confidence, so whatever it takes to achieve that, I’m fine with.

    One reason Bobby Cox was a failure in the postseason, winning only one WS in some 12 straight pennant seasons[that one on a 1-0 game pitched by Glavine], is that he was too loyal to his starters and inflexible in making lineup changes, not to mention he was outmanaged many times.

  261. steve October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    What a punk answer from Posada…

  262. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    “It’s sad to see that some fans can’t support the team. I hope you guys have other plans for A.J.’s start. I mean how can you watch a guy you hate or despise? And if you do watch, make sure you leave the room when Molina’s in the on-deck circle. Wouldn’t want to soil the new carpet by hurling your dinner.”

    m -

    it’s sad to see that you aren’t that interested, but our starting catcher is playing and the ace of our team is pitching tomorrow. i hope you watch and i hope you don’t hurl your dinner if the yankees win and jorge goes 4-4.

  263. William Buckner October 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    “Given that Molia is catching AJ, can we assume they are bringing 3 catchers?”

    I would say YES. I mean, you know Posada will pinch hit in the 6 or later. Maybe earlier if AJ struggles.

    It’s tough to go multiple innings w/o a backup. Very risky.

  264. Sports Geek October 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    @Gopher- “Is there a website or a link showing the Yankees records vs the Twins this year and the results of their games? Thanks in advance”

    http://www.baseball-reference......ores.shtml
    Go to the day-by-day grid.
    Then click on the “Opp” column to sort by opponent.

  265. m October 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    pat,

    Have you ever seen me gloat? :)

    Besides, I said that I would be fine with whomever’s behind the plate. As long as they’re a good defensive catcher. And all three of our catchers are top-notch.

  266. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Thanks Erica! I knew all of my muppet knowledge would come in handy someday! LOL

  267. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Stultus Magnus – back from Venice
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
    Hey Erica,

    Was there ever anything planned for Pete in NYC? A farewell party? Perhaps after the season is over? I’ve been out of touch for a bit.

    Thanks.

    ****

    Sadly no, he never got back to me with availability. And I an not sure how to get in touch with him now. I can’t quite bring myself to comment on the Boston blog

  268. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    I just jumped into the Delorean time machine and advanced to LoHud blog 2018 –
    it was no better there.

    People were arguing about who should start game 1 of the World Series.
    Romine, Montero, Higashioka or player manger Cervelli.

    ps: I skipped over all that and went right to the 2018 GB-Randy argument – B. Bardot or Ann-Margret. Fascinating stuff.

  269. William Buckner October 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “Personally, I hope that AJ’s lights out just so everyone could eat a big plate of shut up.”

    Me too, because I want the Yankees to win. But even if it works out, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the right choice.

  270. Nick in SF October 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Erica, it doesn’t have to be nasty, but I don’t get the “people who disagree with me don’t support the team” aspect.

    I think virtually all of us will be hoping La Diva Burnett is lights out from his first game to the victory parade.

  271. 100 pitches of fun... October 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    As soon as AJ is done pitching and Girardi comes out to make the pitching change AJ’s catcher better walk off the field with him. Hopefully it’s in the 7th inning with the Yanks winning and losing Posada’s bat didn’t hurt them.

  272. Hoffa October 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    “m and trisha got it right all along.

    Never go against these 2 ladies… they know their stuff.”

    ==========

    m,

    You’re a lady? I thought you were a guy?

  273. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    mel, I can’t figure out whether some of this reaction is coming from some people who were SO over-the-top in insisting we were crazy and Molina wouldn’t catch in the postseason and just can’t admit they got it wrong, or whether they genuinely believe it is a mistake. It think there is some of both here.

    In any event, I will always go back to saying (and believing) that Girardi knows more than we do – and so I trust the decision.

    What got it this way actually doesn’t matter. Randy has been saying that he believes it is because Molina ended up catching AJ more and that he would be fine with whatever Girardi decided. I assume he’s not changing his story now.

    I also believe that Posada and AJ will work to get on the same page next season. Hopefully Jorge will remain healthy and there won’t be a lot of time missed for the two of them to work together.

    I too believe that once a decision is made you support your team, since it’s the team you root for. It doesn’t mean that you agree with every decision nor does it mean that you might not be disappointed in a decision. But the mature thing to do, IMO, is to suck all of that up, put your fan dukes up, and cheer like crazy for you team to win.

    JMO

  274. Yankee Trader October 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Bardot, but at age 90,some, hmm!!

  275. pat October 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    m

    Sheffield was called selfish for forcing himself back in the line-up and Alex took abuse for forcing Torre to have no choice but to make that move.

    Distance gives perspective but in the moment those things were being said in NY.

  276. m October 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    randy l,

    I don’t know what that was about. But the game will be on during lunchtime here. :)

  277. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    “I think virtually all of us will be hoping La Diva Burnett is lights out from his first game to the victory parade.”

    LaDiva is okay. But I draw the line at calling him Carol. (unless of course he starts tugging on his ear)

  278. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Nick-

    I am still wondering what “a giant plate of shut up” tastes like. I hope it tastes like chicken :-)

    I wasn’t trying to be snippy or chide anyone. Its a hot topic and people will get emotional. Its their right. I prefer to stay out of it and talk about Muppets. Thats my right :-)

  279. m October 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Hoffa,

    m=mel=female

  280. austinmac October 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Jorge’s quote can be interpreted as simply meaning I hope we win that game even though I am not playing rather than implying it’s Girardi’s fault if they lose.
    Whether a personal catcher is appropriate or whether AJ is wrong not to be able to pitch to Posada doesn’t really matter. If AJ has any negative thoughts because Posada is catching, Posada cannot catch. How he pitches will likely determine who wins. Not Jorge’s ABs. Once Burnett is out of the game, Molina will not hit again if the game is in doubt.

  281. Stultus Magnus - back from Venice October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Hmmmm. Sure this has already been posted.

    “If you don’t recognize my name, there’s a good reason. I started at the Globe yesterday after working nearly 10 years at The Journal News of White Plains, N.Y. I spent the last four seasons covering the dreaded Yankees and the three years before that on the dreadful Mets

    But this is home. I’m from New Bedford, went to UMass-Amherst and virtually every person I’m related to and grew up with lives in New England. It’s good to be back, if only for the coffee milk, linguica and creative driving skills.”

  282. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Erica-I’m trying to think of who should be The Count. Any thoughts?

  283. rconn23 October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    I don’t think anyone wants Burnett to fail.

    But if he does, then the “great catcher debate” – if there is such a thing – is over. It really is.

    There are no more excuses for Burnett now. None.
    If he doesn’t pitch well with his personal catcher and Molina throws up an 0-4 at the plate, then Burnett and Girardi will be crucified in the media. That’s the way it’s going to be.

    You’re putting an offensive dead spot into the lineup in place of one of the top three offensive catchers in baseball.

    And folks, Molina is one of the worst offensive catchers in the game. That’s not up for debate. It just isn’t.

  284. Nick in SF October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    DT, I was thinking more along the lines of Cher, Bette, or Mariah, but they’re all comedically flawed.

  285. pat October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    “Have you ever seen me gloat?”

    Let’s just say you have kids and step-kids and you don’t always do both of their laundry in the same timely fashion. :wink:

  286. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Erin
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
    Erica-I’m trying to think of who should be The Count. Any thoughts?

    ****

    Matsui for sure

  287. Anthony Murillo October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    I’m sure AJ Burnett is holding a gun to Joe Girardi’s head and tells him “Start Molina or I’ll kill you!”. Jesus Christ, Girardi can see what we all see. Burnett struggles with Posada behind the plate. Big deal, it’s not the first time a starting pitcher has ever had a problem with Posada.

    The Yankees feel their best way to win is with Molina catching Burnett. As do I. If Burnett feels more comfortable with him behind the plate, then he needs to be behind the plate. Period, end of story. This is gutcheck time. Pitching in the post-season is much more important that hitting in the post-season. It’s not like Posada is our #3 hitter or our clean up hitter. He’s not even our #5 hitter! He’s the #6 hitter in the order. I understand he’s a TRUE YANKEE and all of that nonsense, I understand he’s a good hitter, but we’re not taking an Albert Pujols type hitter out of the line up people!

  288. Rex October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    “some people who were SO over-the-top in insisting we were crazy and Molina wouldn’t catch in the postseason and just can’t admit they got it wrong”

    Because they think they’re half right? 8)

  289. m shirt October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    its too bad the Yanks never won a game w/ Molina catching. Otherwise the majority of this thread is useless nitpicking.

  290. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    DT, I was thinking more along the lines of Cher, Bette, or Mariah, but they’re all comedically flawed.

    ****

    I have tickets to see Bette in Vegas New years Eve!!!

  291. Doreen October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    I’m positively dizzy from all of this.

    Girardi is a numbers guy. I’m willing to bet he sat down with the stats, and then took a look at what has gone on around him all season, and came to a conclusion that he felt would give his team the best chance to win the game that AJ starts.

    I cannot even begin to imagine that AJ would go into the manager’s office and ask the manager for a personal catcher for the playoffs. AJ may very well be relieved that Molina is catching him. But I’d also be willing to bet that if he was specifically asked he told Joe he’d do what was best for the team. I can’t even imagine he wouldn’t.

    Who knows for sure. I just don’t see it.

    In any event, the Yankees have won games with Molina catching and Posada on the bench. It’s not unprecedented. In fact, this season, there have been a lot of permutations of the lineup and they won 103 games. It’s going to be okay.

  292. no.27 October 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    I don’t understand how a guy who has played 30 something average games as a Yankees is forcing Posada to sit as many as 6 playoff games. AJ Burnett is the one that needs to man up, he’s the one forcing a change from the everyday lineup.

  293. Wave Your Hat October 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    As a weak hitting catcher himself, one who took ABs away from a young Jorge Posada (how ironic!), I suspect Girardi is overly susceptible to the mistaken notion that playing a weak hitting catcher over an all-star can help the team in certain situations.

    Girardi is wrong, of course, but perhaps the mistake is understandable.

  294. Cindy G October 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Weren’t Sabathia and Molina paired up for a long stretch, leaving everyone to conclude that Jose was CC’s personal catcher? And wasn’t it about two months ago that Joba was being crucified for his issues and some suggested that Molina catch him to settle him down? Now we have the AJ/Molina battery.

    The bottom line is, if it works, great. If not,Joe will probably mix it up.

  295. baseballfab October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    This is a disaster and is going to cost us the series.

  296. Hoffa October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    m,

    Highly amusing. I’ve read the blog everyday since it started, but don’t always read the posts. I remember when you posted as “mel” and I just assumed you were a guy.

  297. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    Erin
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
    Erica-I’m trying to think of who should be The Count. Any thoughts?

    ****

    Matsui for sure

    *****

    Brilliant. I knew I was forgetting Matsui!

  298. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    rconn23 October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    I don’t think anyone wants Burnett to fail.

    But if he does, then the “great catcher debate” – if there is such a thing – is over. It really is.

    There are no more excuses for Burnett now. None.
    If he doesn’t pitch well with his personal catcher and Molina throws up an 0-4 at the plate, then Burnett and Girardi will be crucified in the media. That’s the way it’s going to be.

    You’re putting an offensive dead spot into the lineup in place of one of the top three offensive catchers in baseball.

    And folks, Molina is one of the worst offensive catchers in the game. That’s not up for debate. It just isn’t.

    ===========================

    Ding Ding-We have a winner

  299. Nick in SF October 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Erica: what was second prize? TWO tickes to Bette in Las Vegas?

  300. Erica - always OPPC October 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  301. Paco Dooley October 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    I see a lot of defenders of Jorge and people attacking AJ, but there have been a lot of big name pitchers that people around here have cheered for that had personal catchers. I don’t see this as a major knock on AJ. Jorge should be man enough to handle the situation like a true professional.

  302. pat October 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    :arrow: New Post

  303. Bronx Jeers October 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    I think I had a plate of shut up at that Golden corral place.

    The food was so bad, I was literally speechless!

    That’s what we’re referring to here isn’t it? Bad food?

    Because if we are really just sticking it to each other after months of absolute mind-numbing BS about this subject….I’m just not sure I have anything left to add to this blog.

  304. Erin October 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Anthony Murillo
    October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    I’m sure AJ Burnett is holding a gun to Joe Girardi’s head and tells him “Start Molina or I’ll kill you!”.

    ******
    LMAO

  305. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    I am not trying to minimize Posada’s bat in the lineup (maybe he will be the DH Game 2?) because you can’t minimize it. In the past I’ve wanted Posada at the plate over Jeter in a clutch situation because I felt Posada was more clutch.

    That said, I guess I really buy into the widely-held belief that pitching wins championships and also agree that if our offense is dependent on one bat, we probably don’t deserve to be in the postseason.

    Just trying to keep it positive.

    I don’t care about any hurt feelings or egos in the Yankee clubhouse, I really don’t. I just want the Yankees to win the world series. And if AJ is as fragile as some people say he is, I would think the last thing he needs is the media asking him about Jorge’s comment. There is going to be enough pressure on him when he goes out to pitch. Hopefully (and I totally believe this will happen) Jorge will go and pat him on the back the day of the game and wish him well.

    I can’t imagine anyone who would question whether or not Jorge wants to win. Ever.

  306. Anthony Murillo October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    The only way Girardi wins is if Posada catches Burnett and Burnett pitches well.

    I could just see the blog posts:

    GIRARDI SHOULD HAVE LET MOLINA CATCH BURNETT! WE HAVE ENOUGH OFFENSE TO LOSE POSADA FOR ONE GAME!

    SEEE! BURNETT HAD A BAD GAME WITH HIS BOY CATCHIN’ HIM! GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT!!!! POSADA 4 EVER!!!!!!

    If Burnett throws gas and pitches 7 quality innings with Molina, we’ll see:

    GIRARDI IS LUCKY! HE GAMBLED AND WON! WATCH YOUR BACK, JOE!!!!!

  307. Clark October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Girardi isn’t getting fired over this decision, folks. Get back to reality.

    If ownership disagreed with this decision, that would have let him know that and Girardi would have obliged.

  308. Patrick from CT October 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    The more I think about this, the more I don’t like it.
    During the season, I was all for Posada sitting twice a week.
    It’s the playoffs and they have lots of days off. Posada should be starting every game!
    It’s not like Posada is a bad catcher.
    Is Molina a better catcher? sure, but Posada’s bat gives the Yankees another big bat in the lineup vs. an automatic out.
    Let’s just hope AJ pitches well and Molina throws out every guy that trys to steal and blocks every ball in the dirt…

  309. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “The bottom line is, if it works, great. If not,Joe will probably mix it up.”

    BINGO.

  310. JeterHughesJoba October 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    What a terrible move by Girardi!

    It makes me sick to see him cater to Burnett.

    What about sucking it up and doing your job? Stop whining about who’s catching and utilize your god-given talent to earn your massive contract!

    Just another spoiled athlete getting his way.

    The only good news, is that I would think this means that Pettitte is the game 2 starter. There’s no way they bench Posada for possibly 2 game. You wouldn’t think Girardi would be that stupid right??

  311. JD October 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Even though, I’m for Posada. It doesn’t really matter who starts just win. Personally, I didn’t get in the 1st place why this was such a difficult decision for Girardi, AJ has done good with both catchers.
    Po’s bat just better be in the line-up.

    But Jorgie sounds kind of down.

  312. jpb1973 October 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    We want to keep AJ happy, but what’s he going to do next year when Molina will, in all likelihood, be gone?

    —————————————————–

    Francisco Cervelli!!!

  313. Chambliss October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    This is the equivalent of Tek catching for Boston instead of V-Mart, with the exception that Tek is also a pretty bad defensive catcher right now.

  314. DT - OPPC member October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    all these “look what Pete said” posts are getting stale.
    Wish the man well and look to the future.

    We have the cool NKOTB now. Chad “He’s bad” Jennings.
    We have Smilin Sam I am Borden.
    We have Josh “Tampa is overrated” Thomson.

    It’s all good.
    Remember:
    Yesterday is but a dream, next month is but a vision. But today with a Yankee victory and a Boston loss makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a day closer to the ticker tape parade. (or something like that)

  315. Drive 4-5 October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    The fact that the Yankees have to weaken their lineup considerably to accomodate AJ does not speak well for Burnett. Posada’s right. They had better win the game. IMO it’s a black mark against Burnett. It just proves he’s a flake.

  316. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “its too bad the Yanks never won a game w/ Molina catching. Otherwise the majority of this thread is useless nitpicking.”

    I think so.

  317. JD October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    No, I don’t see Posada missing game 2. Him & Pettitte(if he starts the 2nd game) have a strong bond. I don’t see them benching him.

  318. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    “What got it this way actually doesn’t matter. Randy has been saying that he believes it is because Molina ended up catching AJ more and that he would be fine with whatever Girardi decided. I assume he’s not changing his story now.”

    trisha-

    i assumed that girardi would have molina catch burnett because he hasn’t had posada catch him hardly at all the past 6 weeks.

    i think it was a mistake to ever get burnett only used to molina, but once that was done, i understand girardi’s decision of molina for burnett’s first playoff game.

    i don’t however understand his decision to have had molina catch burnett for the past 6 weeks.

    girardi has made the decision to have posada catch sabathia so that tells me he doesn’t think molina is a better overall catcher than posada.

    if he did, moina would be catching every game. when the season is over someone really needs to ask girardi what his thinking was on how he used molina.

    it could just be as simple as molina and burnett click and have nothing to do with posada.

    if that’s the case, fine. manager’s hunch.

  319. no.27 October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    “I’m sure AJ Burnett is holding a gun to Joe Girardi’s head and tells him “Start Molina or I’ll kill you!”. Jesus Christ, Girardi can see what we all see. Burnett struggles with Posada behind the plate. Big deal, it’s not the first time a starting pitcher has ever had a problem with Posada.

    The Yankees feel their best way to win is with Molina catching Burnett. As do I. If Burnett feels more comfortable with him behind the plate, then he needs to be behind the plate. Period, end of story. This is gutcheck time. Pitching in the post-season is much more important that hitting in the post-season. It’s not like Posada is our #3 hitter or our clean up hitter. He’s not even our #5 hitter! He’s the #6 hitter in the order. I understand he’s a TRUE YANKEE and all of that nonsense, I understand he’s a good hitter, but we’re not taking an Albert Pujols type hitter out of the line up people!”

    You don’t know what your talking about.

    If AJ Burnett came out and said, “Let me pitch to Jorge, I’ve pitched good game to him before, I should be able to do it again, just like CC and Andy, and all the other pitchers on this staff,” this controversy would go away.

    Based on their performances from this season, Posada’s OPS is 325 points higher than Molina’s. To put that in perspective, Teixeira’s OPS is 79 points higher than Swisher’s. A-Rod’s OPS is 200 points higher than Hairston Jr.

    It would almost be like replacing A-Rod with Cody Ransom to make the pitcher more comfortable.

  320. rconn23 October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    “The bottom line is, if it works, great. If not,Joe will probably mix it up”

    That’s a great argument in the regular season, if the tandem doesn’t work for a couple of games.

    This is the postseason though, where the margin for error is nil.

  321. austinmac October 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    I don’t see AJ pitching to Posada, and I don’t see Molina catching twice in five games. Therefore, AJ is pitching in game 3. I feel quite confident in that(although I don’t have and never will have any real scoop).

  322. JeterHughesJoba October 6th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Awww, what a touching post from PeteAbe on the Globe.

    Obviously the guy has always been a Sox fan.

    He was a good reporter with alot of good takes, but how can anyone leave right before the playoffs? That just isn’t right!

    Maybe he wanted out as soon as possible. This is the year Arod delivers in a big way this October and we all know PeteAbe could never bring himself to give Arod any credit.

  323. JeterHughesJoba October 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Drive 4-5:

    You’re 100% correct. AJ is proving to be mentally soft.

    After having to have the Yankees bend over backwoods for him, he had better deliver!!

  324. Jones October 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Jorgie is right, they better win.

    Make no mistake, I have nothing against Molina at all, but how can you take one of the best catchers out of the line-up in a play-off game for a back-up?
    Yeah, Molina plays pretty good defense, but Jorge can catch too. Did AJ forget already? Thats also a huge bat in the lineup coming from him. I don’t blame Posada, I’d be bothered too.

  325. Cindy G October 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

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    This is the postseason though, where the margin for error is nil.”

    Right. I agree in principle, but the issue is pitching, pitching, pitching. There is no room for the error of having a starting pitcher blow up, and AJ is the most likely of the top three to do so. I don’t think it’s a matter of AJ’s selfishness. It’s just reality. If it doesn’t work, then there’s no reason to go with that battery a second time.

  326. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    “it could just be as simple as molina and burnett click and have nothing to do with posada.

    if that’s the case, fine. manager’s hunch.”

    Randy I’m thinking that’s entirely it. And I agree with you that next season it is imperative that Girardi find a way to get AJ and Posada on the same page. Maybe it will take care of itself with more games played together.

  327. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    “Right. I agree in principle, but the issue is pitching, pitching, pitching. There is no room for the error of having a starting pitcher blow up, and AJ is the most likely of the top three to do so. I don’t think it’s a matter of AJ’s selfishness. It’s just reality. If it doesn’t work, then there’s no reason to go with that battery a second time.”

    Absolutely and unequivocally agree. I think what people might be missing is that if AJ doesn’t feel comfortable with Jorge, for whatever reason, it isn’t going to matter how many AB Jorge gets in the game. We’ve all seen what happens when AJ implodes and then seems to lose confidence. It isn’t pretty.

  328. jpb1973 October 6th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Can people stop this “old guard” nonsense?

    The clubhouse has been taken over… this is Swishers, Teixerias, CCs, AJs, Jobas, Hughes, Cokes’, Cano’s, Bruney’s etc. team now…. the new guard has established themselves this year. This team is getting younger and the old guard is on their way out.

    ——————————————————–

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  329. randy l. October 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    “It’s sad to see that some fans can’t support the team. I hope you guys have other plans for A.J.’s start. I mean how can you watch a guy you hate or despise? And if you do watch, make sure you leave the room when Molina’s in the on-deck circle. Wouldn’t want to soil the new carpet by hurling your dinner.”

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    you said the above. just turning your snide comment right back at you.

    it could be interpreted that you and trisha root against posada.

    of course only you two know that about yourselves.

  330. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a believer in baseball karma October 6th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Randy, because we felt that Molina and AJ was the better pairing says nothing about our rooting against Posada! I told mel that I believed we would have been pilloried if Posada had been chosen as the catcher for Posada. Every “I told you so” would have been hurled in our direction. You have seen that we’ve done nothing of the sort in the other direction. I think mel is just disappointed so see such outrage about the decision and all of the stuff being hurled in AJ’s direction and is hoping in turn that posters would just try to suck up their disappointment and root for the team. That’s what I see her doing anyway.

    I don’t like the dissension and I had already told you (and meant) I would be good to go with any decision Girardi made.

  331. JeterHughesJoba October 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

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    Can people stop this “old guard” nonsense?
    The clubhouse has been taken over… this is Swishers, Teixerias, CCs, AJs, Jobas, Hughes, Cokes’, Cano’s, Bruney’s etc. team now…. the new guard has established themselves this year. This team is getting younger and the old guard is on their way out.

    =====================================================

    Is that right jbp1973 and seymour?? Not so sure I would be putting Joba and Coke in that sentence!

    Why not just include Molina in that group too? Apparently Girardi does!

    BTW: I think Jeter being the captain and MVP candidate may still have some pull with this team. Just a hunch.

    Also, all those newcomers might want to try learning a thing or two from the old guard, you know that guys that won 4 rings!

  332. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    AJ will pitch game 2. Makes way more sense. Yes Molina will have to bat, but AJ pitches better at home and pettitte better on the road. folks, girardi is not an idiot. He knows how to win. Even last year they won 89 games with only Pettitte and Mussina.

  333. tex's friend October 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    I am keeping track of all the complainers here about Molina, and when he gets a hit, the hypocrites better not act like they knew it would happen that way.

  334. JeterHughesJoba October 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Good point tex’s friend. Why not cater to AJ’s every demand despite the fact that his 2 best starts this year were with Posada behind the plate?

    Plus AJ’s been so reliable all year long, why not trust him in Game 5 with the season on the line? It’s not like Pettitte pitched better in the 2nd half or has ever proven anything in the postseason before!

    Well said.

  335. Heyya October 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    I say let management do their job.

    If AJ pitches 7 strong innings and Molina gets one semi-valuable hit, the duo will be at it together the next go around.

    If AJ doesn’t do so well, nor does Molina behind the plate or offensively, I’m sure management will reconsider and possibly tell AJ that his way didn’t work, so to suck it up his next start with Posada.

  336. purenyyankee October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    We damn well better win Game 1.I think this Stinks. Burnett has not won anything in his life and Girardi let him dictate who he will pitch to??
    I don’t care what the regular season stats say. This is the playoffs. I can’t wait for that 1st and 3rd and one out and Molina goes 6-4-3.

  337. rover October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Its the wrong precedent. Now I could see it if Aj was some junk throwing knuckler and Molina was a young real quick footed catcher. Aj can dirt a lot of breaking balls but cmon. Stop the whining and play baseball. I hated my catcher used to try and bust his ankles with the breaking balls. Aj preferences should not have a part in this.

  338. Enough Youk October 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    “We damn well better win Game 1.I think this Stinks. Burnett has not won anything in his life and Girardi let him dictate who he will pitch to??”

    I could not have said it better…Why does Aj Burnett deserve special treatment? WHY?

  339. Enough Youk October 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    :You’re 100% correct. AJ is proving to be mentally soft.

    After having to have the Yankees bend over backwoods for him, he had better deliver!!

    You are both right. Why does Burnett get special treatment?? Oh I know he throws pies at people. that is the reason. It sure isn’t for his pitching..

  340. I'm sorry... what October 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

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  341. I'm sorry... what October 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Have you goofs learned NOTHING in the last 3 or 4 years?

    Pitching and defense matters more than stacking your lineup with all the hitters as you can find.

    Do you REALLY want A.J. Burnett out there afraid to throw a 2-strike curve in the dirt??? I don’t.

  342. roadrider October 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    someone said “…AJ’s start with Molina at home vs. Baltimore was one bad pitch to Roberts… other than that he was lights out for 6 innings…”

    Are you kidding me? I was at that game. Did the bases get loaded on that “one bad pitch” to Roberts? How about the ICBM into the LF bullpen by the leadoff hitter in that inning and the inability to put away the bottom three guys in the order BEFORE Roberts came up?

    And in those other “lights out” other innings – didn’t you notice how many times the outfielders were pushed back to wall chasing down the missiles the O’s were hitting off Mr. Pie Face?

    Sorry but there’s no percentage at all in starting Molina (or younger Molina, by which I mean Cervelli) in a playoff game. This is just another case of Girardi out-thinking himself (much like the sac bunt he called for in the bottom of the 1st inning in that Baltimore game).

  343. steve October 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Why are so many people assuming that Burnett *asked* to throw to Molina? He could have said nothing or even told Joe he’d throw to Posada, and this was entirely Girardi’s decision.

    Posada earlier in the season complaining about Burnett shaking off pitches is what started this. News flash for Posada: if the pitcher pitches badly, he gets blamed, not the catcher, so he picks his pitches.

    And now Posada is basically griping about not starting… I am not impressed.

    This decision should be evaluated before outcome. Of course Burnett could still not pitch well, having your preferred catcher is not a guaranteed win.

  344. VJP Yankee October 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    I think this is smart. You look at how well Burnett has played down the stretch with Molina as catcher and you see how much he has struggled with Posada catching and I think Molina is the better fit. Later in the game you add Posada when the bullpen starts to work, that way we have a fresh big bate late in the game.

  345. Buck Nasty October 7th, 2009 at 1:56 am

    Hey heres an idea how about we let the people who get paid ot make these decsions make them and not be internet tough guys, It isnt like they just decided to say well lets let AJ throw to Jose, Girardi more than likely thought very long and hard and considered the input of his other coaches, so lets stop acting like we know what is better for the team than our coaching staff. Pitching is what wins Championships not hitting, it not like Jorge is the only hitter in our lineup we still have a great hitting lineup without him in it. it doesnt matter how many runs you score if you give up more than you score. EVERYONE SIMMA DOWN

  346. Corey October 7th, 2009 at 2:10 am

    I don’t agree with the decision at all. Where was everyone when AJ was dominating in June and July? Posada caught a majority of those games. AJ shows his normal inconsistancies and its Posadas fault. I find that to be pure bs. Did anyone ever stop to think it’s AJ who is at fault here?

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