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October Madness

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 08, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I caught the end of the Phillies-Rockies game on the radio while driving home from the Stadium this afternoon and then saw the end of the Cardinals-Dodgers game while packing for the weekend trip to Minneapolis (6 a.m. flight on Saturday means you got to plan ahead). Two games, two dramatic endings. What will the Red Sox-Angels game bring?

I’ve always loved the first round of the playoffs because every inning feels important and the games run all day – sort of like the early rounds of the NCAA tournament (though, sadly, Gus Johnson doesn’t announce baseball). Even if you don’t have a rooting interest, it’s hard not to hang on every pitch.

From the Yankee perspective, I suppose the best thing to hope for is a five-game series with a few extra-inning marathons. Or a few rainouts. Whatever gets the ALCS opposition to next Friday as ragged as possible would work out well for the Yanks.

That’s it for me tonight. Thanks for all the emails and comments today, and be sure to come back early and often tomorrow. We’ll have Flash Points, all the pre-game news and a game post (or two or three) that’ll go all night. See you then.

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320 Responses to “October Madness”

  1. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Cardinals-Dodgers :)

  2. 27 October 8th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Lets make it to the ALCS first.

  3. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    the angels can’t run if they don’t get on base.

    their righties have to lay off those balls that lester pounds inside off the plate.

  4. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    The entire angels lineup minus Bobby Abreu is basically taking the worst possible approach to Lester. Swinging at anything out of the zone.

  5. Pat M. October 8th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Randy I, Lester is going to make a mistake to Vladdy….Watch for Tori to have a big game tonight

  6. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    pete over at extra bases said he expected joe west to put himself into the middle of things being a showman type.

    that didn’t take long .

  7. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Red Sox got their first gift of the post-season, a phantom interfearance call

  8. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    That’s what we want. Go Chone!

  9. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    pat m-

    pass on your insights as the game goes on . you know the angels better than any of us.

  10. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    I’ve never seen a catcher’s interference call where the batter didn’t complain. Unreal.

  11. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Sorry. I’m sure Orsillo said Figgins and I am surfing the net and watching the game so I didn’t see the hitter.

  12. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Fat slobs shouldn’t be allowed to work home plate.

    It’s more physically demanding than most realize.

  13. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Just what Orsillo wants to hear. Notice the silence.

  14. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    That’s so not true. No one thought Abreu was on the downside of his career. It was a money issue. (And maybe the wall) But not his production. Sheesh.

  15. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    I will never stop hearting Abreu.

    :(

  16. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    And no one offered Abreu anywhere near what he was making or woudl have made hd he stayed in NY. And he didn’t exactly have a plethora of offers to choose from. Sheesh again.

  17. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 8th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Does Lester or Beckett ever have a bad game against the Angels?

  18. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    if farrell leaves to take a manager’s job somewhere that’s going to hurt the red sox.

  19. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    c’mon Angels…shut this red sox commentator up!

  20. Eric October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    TBS just said Abreu and Pujols are the only players with 100+ RBI in the last 7 seasons… ummm, hello, A-Rod anyone?

  21. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    But if we had Bobby we never would have gotten Swish.

  22. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Does Lester or Beckett ever have a bad game against the Angels?

    yes, Lester is having one right now, unfortunately it has coincided with a bad game by the Angel’s offense

  23. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    randy l -

    Por quois?

  24. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    It all worked out the best for the Yankees.

  25. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    It did work out for the best for the Yankees. It’s just annoying when people on tv with an audience make sweeping statements that aren’t quite true.

  26. Joe from Long Island October 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Doreen – it’s p-o-u-r, pourquois.

  27. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    I expect Beckett and Lester to do their thing because they are very good pitchers…….and big game pitchers. The Angels just can’t beat the Sox…… LOL I can barely handle following the Yankees; whatever happens with the Sox/Angels is secondary. First, the Yankees have to win…I’ll concern myself with who they play next round IF they get there.

  28. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    ok, Vladdy…let’s do this

  29. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Joe from LI -

    Merci.

  30. Carl October 8th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    That was strike 3. Got to love the umps.

  31. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    LOL. Lester gets squeezed by Country Joe West.
    I’m so glad he’s doing that series and not the Yanks.

  32. Pat M. October 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Here comes the mistake to Big Daddy Vladdy

  33. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    They don’t have our best interests at heart.

    Or they’re just lazy.

    Or both.

  34. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Mr May is up

  35. Joe from Long Island October 8th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Doreen – Je vous’en prie.

  36. djsunyc October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    jeez…come on vlad…

  37. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    at least they did a number on Lester’s pitch count

  38. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    and people get on Arod for his postseason numbers. Vlad is a joke

  39. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Vlad the inhaler?

  40. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Thanks God we didn’t sign Vlad

  41. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Vladdy :mad:

  42. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    If nothing else they’re getting his pitch count up.

    Rish, Triple, and anyone else here who had a prediction for the chart, here is the chart. Please check to see I got your numbers right. :)

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON2.pdf

  43. Joe from Long Island October 8th, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    All right, time for bed. C’mon, extra innings!

  44. S.A.--Serenity Now October 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    though, sadly, Gus Johnson doesn’t announce baseball

    ===============================

    LOL Can you imagine? Oh what fun that would be.

    From his doing Knicks games: “My name is Al Harrington… And I get Buckets!”

  45. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    So Eck is in the TBS studios, and Orsillo is doing the play by play – is Heidi Watney working for TBS this post season too?

    Geez.

  46. Brian in NJ October 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Angels have begun their annual choke job vs. boston

  47. Tarheelyank October 8th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Randy

    read this about Farrell

    http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=4508890

  48. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    That was a strike.

    Great to have a blind ump.

  49. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Wow, Trisha – very professional looking predictions chart!

    i didn’t make a prediction – always feel like I’m jinxing something with a prediction. I did post Josh’s off Twitter for you :)

  50. RyanM October 8th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I would like to here Bill Raftery call baseball games too. A WALKOFF BASE HIT FOR MARK LORETTA AND THE DODGERS WIN!!!! ONIONS!!!!!

  51. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Duh! Sorry Rish. I guess you just gave me someone else’s. I really like trying to make charts look interesting, especially in the postseason. Thanks!

  52. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Nice call with Raftery, RyanM. And the KISS off the wall!!

  53. Triple Short Of A Cycle October 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    I can’t believe I am about to say this but Lackey actually looks pretty good against the Sox

  54. Christina- Here come the bandwagoners... October 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    Trisha, your chart came out really nice!

  55. bru October 8th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Gardenhire had nothing but good things to say about the yankees

    what a class act & he said it nicely for most of his press conference

  56. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Hahaha, Orsilly. Papi’s skills didn’t deteriorate, they were just better revealed.

  57. Jeremy October 8th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    The Angels had a chance and failed once again. The Angels choke all the time to Boston. This looks like a repeat from last year.

  58. Pat M. October 8th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Lester’s life flashed before his eyes on that first fastball that Vladdy fouled back…After that he worked him over…

  59. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Christina, thank you! In the past I did all of the postseason charts for the other forums I was on. If I really knew what I was doing, though, it wouldn’t have taken me an entire day and part of a night…

    :(

  60. Jeremy October 8th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    If the Angels want to win they better score soon or their going to lose. Their bullpen is not that good.

  61. Brian in NJ October 8th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Yankees vs. Twins
    Game 3 on Sunday at 7:07pm
    Game 4 on Monday at 5:07pm
    Game 5 on Wednesday at 6:07pm

    Red Sox vs. Angels
    Game 2 on Friday at 9:37pm
    Game 3 on Sunday at 12:07pm
    Game 4 on Monday at 8:37pm
    Game 5 on Wednesday at 8:37pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp?y=09

  62. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    doreen-

    john farrell is just a solid baseball guy. was a player development guy at cleveland.

    i like his basic philosophy of establishing the fastball.

    he believes a pitcher should be able to win games with mostly fastballs if a pitcher’s fastball command is strong enough.

    once they have that command of the fastball, off speed and breaking pitches are all the more effective.

  63. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    I’m not even paying attention to the game, but let’s face it – Lester is capable of shutting down any team at any time. It’s hard to say the Angels are choking…..If a pitcher is on, then he’s on.

  64. JC in TW October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    I don’t understand why Pete posted something like Joba should be a set-up guy at boston.com. Pete has insisted that Joba sould be a starter all year long when he covered the Yankees.

    ========================================================

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b....._leav.html

  65. RalphieD (OPPC) October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    “I would like to here Bill Raftery call baseball games too. A WALKOFF BASE HIT FOR MARK LORETTA AND THE DODGERS WIN!!!! ONIONS!!!!!”

    anytime there would be a deflection off the pitcher: AND SABATHIA WITH A LITTLE KISSSS…OFF HIS GLOVE!!

  66. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Thank you, Randy l.

  67. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    HA HA HA HA HA!

    Get yourself thrown out Pukey!

  68. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    This series better not go till Monday. 5:07. SO now instead of missing the first inning. I’ll miss the first hour and a half.

  69. nature boy October 8th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    wow i can’t believe the yankees didn’t get cb bucknor

  70. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 8th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Sheesh, bad call there. For once Youkilis’s tantrum is a bit justified, lol.

  71. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    That was about the worst missed tag I’ve seen all season.

  72. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    And Bucknor just inserted himself into the narrative

  73. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    CB Buckner AND Joe West. Oh wow.

    All they need is Marty Foster somewhere in that crew and it would be the 3 stooges.

  74. Pat M. October 8th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Jeremy….I do wish you & I hung out at the same club….Over the past 4 weeks my disagreements with you would have paid my membership dues for the month…..

  75. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    “CB Buckner AND Joe West. Oh wow.”
    it’s like they are in a competition to see who can top who with the worst call.

  76. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    It’s just amazing how Jon Lester is throwing a very good ball game despite having to shake off Victor Martinez, an awful catcher, pitch after pitch after pitch.

    How is it possible for a pitcher to possibly function if he’s not on the “same page” as his catcher?

    How does he not simply wither and melt down.

    What is Francona thinking?

  77. Buddy Biancalana October 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    randy-

    I was reading Farrell is going back to manage Cleveland.

  78. Brian in NJ October 8th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    So when does this “running team” start running? Victor can’t throw anybody out and the Angels are like statues. I don’t want to hear about Lester being a lefty. The Angels run all over the Yankees. They aren’t going to win playing station to station baseball. Man, I hate the Red Sox…..

  79. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    I believe Farrell has a clause in his contract which prevents him from taking a managers job until after next season.

  80. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    JC in TW
    October 8th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
    I don’t understand why Pete posted something like Joba should be a set-up guy at boston.com. Pete has insisted that Joba sould be a starter all year long when he covered the Yankees.
    ========================================================
    http://www.boston.com/sports/b….._leav.html

    —————————-

    that is a pretty brutal job by Pete. I did not expect that from him. I guess he is just desperate for some readers and comments

  81. Buddy Biancalana October 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    CB-

    I heard that too, but that the Sox will let him out of it.

  82. rconn23 October 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    So true CB, so true.

    This game is further evidence that the Angels can’t hit power pitching. Can’t run if you can’t get on base.

  83. Atach77 October 8th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    How is Buckner umping in the postseason???

  84. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    4 innings – both pitchers threw exactly 66 pitches.
    (with the bad calls each should have about 10 less)

  85. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    cb-

    i read somewhere that the red sox would want a player from any team that wanted to sign farrell to manage.

  86. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Buddy,

    Didn’t know the Sox would let him out of the deal. I got the impression that they were going to play hardball with him.

  87. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    “that is a pretty brutal job by Pete. I did not expect that from him.”

    hey everyone changes. Change is normal.
    Did you see his blog post where he listed what was on the Abe Ipod? – Sweet Caroline by Neil Diamond.

    (I kid, I kid)

  88. Jeremy October 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Pat M.
    lol ! are you talking about my post about this angels vs. red sox game and some of my other posts ?

  89. Buddy Biancalana October 8th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    CB-

    Looks like the Farrell issue is moot.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ed.sox.ap/

  90. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    CB, good to see you posting again. You (and SJ44 and bodhisatva and Wave Your Hat and no. 27, among others) had some really terrific posts yesterday that got into the AJ/Posada/Molina question from a number of angles. It was all very illuminating.

    I think it’s a collective failure that we are at the point where the Yanks aren’t fielding their best possible team for a playoff game. I posit to you, though, that Girardi MAY be making the correct call based on his understanding of AJ’s psyche right now. At the least, I think it’s a defensible decision (or gamble), if the overall situation is less so. He just might not have the confidence in AJ’s fortitude that we wish he had — or that we wish was warranted.

  91. djsunyc October 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    SMALL BALL!!!

    come on angels…i want to kill that rally monkey in the ALCS…

  92. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    ok – at least get this run in so the RS guy will just shut up

  93. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    The Farrell situation is very strange. Who knows. Pitching coaches don’t get many shots to be big league managers.

    And Cleveland has to be an attractive place for a new manager as Shapiro just does not like to fire managers. He bent over backwards again and again to provide reasoning for why Eric Wedge shouldn’t be fired for the past several years. Shapiro has constantly been saying it’s not he manager it’s the entire organization.

    I’d guess the Sox weren’t going to let him go unless they got something in return and Farrell just decided to wait.

    He’s never going to manage in Boston.

  94. kav October 8th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    I wonder what would have happened if the philles pitcher was not thinking about other things today…….like his baby that was born today or about to be born.

  95. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    I think it’s sad that Joe doesn’t have any confidence in his own pitcher……..

  96. Carl October 8th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Tori Hunter

  97. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Woo hoo!!!

  98. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    To-rii Hunt-er

  99. Frank from Chatham, NJ October 8th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!

  100. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    So much for small ball :)

  101. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    1st blood….this series is over

  102. pat October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Happy Torii isn’t a Twin this week.

  103. JC in TW October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Now the RS guys can shut up…

  104. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    “Pat M.
    October 8th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
    Randy I, Lester is going to make a mistake to Vladdy….Watch for Tori to have a big game tonight”

    kudos Pat. M. !!

    predict the final score so I can go to bed… lol

  105. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    kav,

    You have a point. But Hamels has not been very good this season. 10-11 with an ERA over 4? Something like that.

    That was a good win for the Rockies. Too bad St. Louis blew it, going to be hard to come back down 0-2.

    Doreen,

    I’m not near a tv, but thank goodness for that. If I heard what they were saying about how the Yankees handled the Abreu situation, I probably would’ve thrown something at it.

  106. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    cb-

    is it less likely to score one run with one out and runners on 1st and 3rd than it is to score 1 run with a runner on third only?

    when i want one run it always bothers me when the yankees have a runner on third and get a runner on first too because of the double play possibiity.

    pat m strikes again !!!!

  107. djsunyc October 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    WTH is vlad swinging at? my goodness…

  108. Yanks_Fan October 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Hunter didn’t have to hit a fly ball that high. What a showoff! :p

  109. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    we broke the sox spirit…..bring on the angels.

    the sox are dead…..no catcher, lester beat up…beckett struggling

  110. djsunyc October 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    lexington steele with a huge 3 run homer :)

  111. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    and the hits just keep on coming!

  112. Rob October 8th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Those fireworks are obnoxious, they should be banned at all stadiums!

  113. NYY626 October 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Currently, I’m more afraid to play the Angels than the Sox
    (please note that this will probably change once Boston scores)

  114. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Small ball, big explosion.

  115. Tarheelyank October 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Trisha

    Maybe we should have A Molina AB prediction chart.

    My prediction 3 for 3, with a dinger off the RF foul pole. :D

  116. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Wait, I thought the one-two punch of the Red Sox is so good that it is impossible to score off of them. Lester is not the best pitcher in baseball? Whew, that is news to me because following the media lately I thought he was.

  117. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    This may be the year the Angels break through. Not because they’re exceptional, but because this Red Sox team isn’t as good as more recent incarnations.

  118. Rob October 8th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    “mick
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    we broke the sox spirit…..bring on the angels.
    the sox are dead…..no catcher, lester beat up…beckett struggling”

    Be careful what you wish for.

    a. It’s only the fifth inning, The Angels bullpen stinks
    b. The Yanks still have to beat the twins
    c. The angels are a good team, that have had the Yankees Number historically speaking,

  119. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    If the Yankees can’t get by the Angels or Sox (or the Twins), then they aren’t deserving champions. I don’t believe in curses – if they get by the Twins and have to face the Angels, I don’t want to hear any excuses about having to travel to the West Coast or how Anaheim is a house of horrors (up until last series). They need to just win.

  120. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    angels haven’t starting running yet….varitek will be behind the plate for the rest of series…sox are hurting, we hurt them bad

  121. Jerkface October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    players who swing at anything and are not named yogi berra don’t belong in the playoffs, they just get torn apart too easily

  122. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    NYY626-

    Remember your new motto.

    Deciding to be indecisive is making a decision

  123. Frank from Chatham, NJ October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    1. CB Bucknor made a horrible call at first base un-nerving Lester

    2. Joe West’s zone is not favorable to Lester, un-nerving him.

    2. Lester does not have his best stuff – Hunter & Rivera pitches were both belt high, on the plate

  124. pat October 8th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Tarheel

    This might persuade you to change your prediction. :wink:

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/.....bb9037306/

  125. Gmanfl October 8th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Watching the Sawks!!! Why is it that they have Mcdonut announcing the game? He has always been a sox homer. I guess Michael Kay should announce the Yanks game on TBS. The best part is cutting to a break he said after this commercial break on NESN… Really?? These announcers stink!!

  126. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Last night the yankees had 9 hits in 33 at bats/

    The twins actually got 10 hits in 36 at bats. So the twins had 1 more hit and had more at bats in the game.

    In terms of runners and plate appearanced, the yankees had 12 runners in 36 plate appearances.

    The Twins had 11 base runners in 37 plate appearances.

    Despite how even these numbers looked the yankees dominated the game.

    I bring this up because yesterday, as we usually hear before the playoffs, the importance of small ball is brought up over an over.

    But the difference in last nights game – just as it has been in the Angels-Sox game tonight was power and patience.

    The yankees hit for power last night and the Twins, the consummate fundamentals team, didn’t. At the same time, the yankees neutralized all of the hits the twins got by drawing walks.

    And a similar difference separated the pitching. Yankee pitcher’s K’d 12. The twins – only 5.

    Yankee pitchers walked 1. The Twins – 3.

    So the yankee hitters hit 2 home runs to the Twins 0 while at the same time striking out 60% less than the twins hitters did.

    There’s no way around it – if you get men on base and hit for power it is the most straightforward way to win whether it’s the regular season or the playoffs. Small ball only goes so far and makes you vulnerable to the overall production and power of the opposition.

  127. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    rob

    nothing personal but i am so sick of the losing syndrome.
    granted we haven’t won a series since 2000 but fear permeates
    so many of the thoughts of yankee fans. negativity breeds upon itself and a self fulfilling prophesy occurs.

    think positive.

    we will pummell the twins and beat the angels, at their own game if need be.

    brave words, why the eff not.

  128. Carl October 8th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Hey I didn’t know Peyton Manning called Red Sox games.

  129. NYY626 October 8th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Erica – always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    NYY626-

    Remember your new motto.

    Deciding to be indecisive is making a decision
    ________________________________________________________________
    I remember! And since I have decided to be indecisive, the outcome of this game doesn’t matter to me. So I can go to sleep now and find out the score in the morning. ( Not worth me being a zombie at work for a non yankees game :) )

  130. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Gmanfl – that’s not McDonut, it’s Orsilly. (credit to Nick)

    all those Chowdah heads sound alike I know….

  131. JasonR October 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    “nothing personal but i am so sick of the losing syndrome.
    granted we haven’t won a series since 2000 but fear permeates
    so many of the thoughts of yankee fans. negativity breeds upon itself and a self fulfilling prophesy occurs.

    think positive.”

    Well said.

    Negativity does not equal intelligence or insight.

  132. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    besides, who on the angels can shut us down?

    their best bet vs us is saunders.

    taking that series was huge for our confidence.

  133. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Nick,

    Thanks. I’ve been mourning the retirement of my bruney pin to the torn memento box in the proverbial closet.

    Alas, this post season there is nothing left to believe in. All we’re left with is the world of experience.

    Regarding the other point – collective failure is a good way to look at it.

  134. Tarheelyank October 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Pat

    I am trying hard to be an optimist. Jose needs some positive energy flowing from the Lo Hud faithful.

    Work with me here.

  135. yankeeman0 October 8th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    Guys,

    Trying to Follow Peter A. on the boston.com blog..and it’s just feels/reads so weird (including his 180 on Joba)…plus it’s just dry reporting of what’s happening..where’s the whitty comments and funny cracks?! Plus nothing personal against Pete, but since he covering Sox I now consider him an “enemy”…is anyone else going to get any extra satisfaction to have the Sox lose and then have Pete come cover the Yanks/Angels ALCS as an “out of town” reporter?! lol lol

  136. Gmanfl October 8th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Thanks DT. It was driving me nuts.. But he did say NESN. Great..

  137. rconn23 October 8th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Something is very wrong with Lackey.

  138. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    I went over to Extra Bases to check out the game post….Pete and some other guy are sort of just checking in each half inning and giving a blow by blow of the action.

    Riveting stuff!

    What exactly is the point of that?

    I mean if one has access to the internet shouldn’t you assume that they have better access to the game than just a written version of the action?

    It’s like the modern version of those old radio broadcasts when the announcer would bang together 2 pieces of wood to simulate the ball getting hit.

  139. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    most yankee fans are still shell-shocked from 2004.

    get over it.

    more importantly, this is a totally different team.

    it took the team from boston 86 years to get over themselves, oh woe is me.

    5 years is enough for me.

  140. Abdababdaserser October 8th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Now Lackey struggling. I guess he wants to keep things interesting, or maybe just playing with them.

    I wonder why Hunter looked so ticked off after hitting that home run.

  141. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    “I’m a Glad-Bruney-Is-Off-The-Postseason-Roster Believer”?

  142. rconn23 October 8th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Nice comeback by Lackey.

    It looked to me like he hurt himself on one of the pitches to Martinez. He completely lost the strikezone and his motion looked strange.

  143. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    and as much as i want the team from boston, i just love to see them lose.

  144. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    NYY626
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    I remember! And since I have decided to be indecisive, the outcome of this game doesn’t matter to me. So I can go to sleep now and find out the score in the morning. ( Not worth me being a zombie at work for a non yankees game )
    ****

    I am with you. T-5 minute countdown until I am in my bed. The Yankees play who they play. They will obliterate all in their path! GRRRR

  145. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Bronx Jeers: Ronald Reagan did play-by-play of Cubs games totally from written accounds — from teletype? Or something like that.

  146. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    randy,

    1 and 3 with one out is a considerably better situation to be in compared to a man on first with no outs.

    1 and 3 with one out leads to around 30%- 35% more runs than man on first and no outs.

  147. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
    “I’m a Glad-Bruney-Is-Off-The-Postseason-Roster Believer”?
    ***

    That move and Guzman, kept a lot of people from being perfect in Guess the Postseason Roster. There were 7 people who had 24/25 right

  148. Carl October 8th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    CB my main man Bucknor

  149. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    I mean – the Ump is terrible…wow, CB, wow

  150. Gmanfl October 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    I love these umps.

  151. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    mick,

    Agreed. You want both teams to get back at them. But you want neither of them because, really, who wants to face the Sox or the Angels?

  152. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    LMAO… CB with another great call at 1st.
    How this guy is umpiring in the post-season is a mystery.

  153. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    red sox are still losers.

    they are buying out of their recent winning ways.

    implosion!

    they cry over every call, eventhough they were jobbed the last 2, but youlilis and pedroia are the 2 biggest crybabies around.

    as if they’re entitled to win or something, lol.

  154. Frank from Chatham, NJ October 8th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    The Angels have an ally in CB Bucknor who will unravel Lester all by himself.

  155. baseballfab October 8th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Wow.

    Seriously.

    Could an ump miss two easy calls like that by accident?

    Is that even credible?

  156. rconn23 October 8th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    That was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Old CB never dissapoints.

  157. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Still hate when CB Bucknor is umping a game…. The abuse my handle takes.

  158. Carlo October 8th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Those of u who are afraid of anaheim or boston for that matter need a reality check. We are playing for a world series title. Its not going to be gift wrapped for us. Of course there are going to be challenges. We just happen to be the best team in baseball and as such, not matter who we play, we are a bigger obstacle for them then they are for us.

  159. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Buckner and West would have trouble officiating a game of ping pong.

  160. Tarheelyank October 8th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Dont worry CB is an equal opportunity sucky ump.

    The Angels will get screwed by CB before this series is over.

  161. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Does CB stand for call blown?

  162. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Erica: I didn’t get why you called those 24-of-25 people the winners.

    If it isn’t 25-0f-25, doesn’t that make Girardi/Cashman the only winner?

  163. baseballfab October 8th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Showboat didn’t need to dive for that ball.

    Bucknor really is in the wrong profession.

  164. pat October 8th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Tarheel

    Sorry.

    I was clicking through the pictures of the workout today and it made me laugh that was the one they included for Molina.

  165. Carlo October 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    What is this lame trend with boston pitchers and the slow chewing of gum as they walk off the mound? Beckett and Lester remind me of that tool in Not Another Teen Movie who tries to start “the slow clap”.

  166. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
    Erica: I didn’t get why you called those 24-of-25 people the winners.

    If it isn’t 25-0f-25, doesn’t that make Girardi/Cashman the only winner?
    ****

    No. The winners were those who got the most correct. No one had to be perfect.

    However, if anyone goofs on GTLU tomorrow they are clearly not paying attention

  167. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    if karma has anything to do with it, we really did a number on redsox this year. put them in there place.

    beating the angels in that last series was great but nothing compared to the devastation and exposure of the sox.

    we still have a score to settle with the angels, and have tarnished some of their mystique.

    we are the better team and confident we can beat them in 5 or 6.

  168. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    cb

    i knew it would increase the average number of runs scored, but because of the double play wouldn’t that sometimes cut the inning short with no run scoring.

    if no one is on first that ground ball would often score 1 run .

    too good of a game to talk about this now , but i’ll run it by you another time.

    the probability of one run scoring is what i’m wondering about and not which situation would score the most total runs.

  169. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Yah, let’s get out of the first round before we start talking world series, Carlos.

    Boston would be the easier draw, but not easier on our nerves. There’s always the additional element of hate.

    Angle Stadium is a long drive for the boys, the travel is a killer.

  170. tampayank October 8th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Don’t worry everyone, I read a Derek Jeter interview on Si.com recently and he said his favorite road ballpark to play at is Angels Stadium;) so a possible Angels-Yanks ALCS is nothing to worry about

  171. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Even the Soup Nazi had a soft spot in his heart, Erica. I guess you did too.

  172. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    well said Carlo.

    too much negativity in the average yankee fan.

  173. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    “Still hate when CB Bucknor is umping a game…. The abuse my handle takes.”

    That’s funny. I was just typing “CB” in my last post but then backtracked over it and went with Buckner.

    That’s a name that’s used to the abuse.

    I guess it’s actually Buckn-Or but whatever.

  174. RyanM October 8th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    I just felt bad for the Red Sox/Angels when I saw the umpire schedule having to deal with Country Joe West and Call Blown (stolen from DT – OPPC member) Buckner.

  175. Abdababdaserser October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    In Buchnor’s case, I would say CH means Completely Blind.

  176. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    M, any championship team has to overcome obstacles……If the Yankees can’t, then they don’t deserve it. That said, this series is absolutely not over. Game 2 won’t be easy and it’s never easy in the Metrodome. In 2006, the Yankees wond the first game and it went downhill from there…..one game at a time.

  177. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Does anyone know off the top of their head – is the ALCS 2-3-2 or does it matter who is in first? (travel dates etc..)

  178. Pat G October 8th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    I’m a big Gus Johnson fan…

  179. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Well, Angel Stadium is Alex’s home away from home.

    Checking the other game thread. Looks like Pete’s making some good jokes, but they’re too sophisticated for the crowd. :)

  180. Carlo October 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    M,

    I haven’t put us in the world series. Merely saying, no matter who we face, be it Minny, Boston,Anaheim, LAD, Philly, etc……its gonna be a challenge.

  181. nature boy October 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    you would have thought the red sox had a one game play-in last night… the twins looked more alive last night than the sox do tonight

  182. Tarheelyank October 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Pat

    No problem. It does bring up a good point. If there is a man on, Jose will be bunting. (we can only hope better than in the picture)

  183. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Oh, Betsy.

    You know me. I’m such a worry wart. ;)

  184. randy l. October 8th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    cb bucknor must be a piece of work when he’s behind the plate.

  185. Frank from Chatham, NJ October 8th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    M

    Angle?? :)

  186. Betsy October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    M, I didn’t meant to imply you are a worrywart – you seem the furthest thing from……

  187. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    “Bronx Jeers: Ronald Reagan did play-by-play of Cubs games totally from written accounds — from teletype? Or something like that.”

    I heard he got it directly from Bonzo.

  188. Abdababdaserser October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    nature boy, I guess they are still resting their players so they won’t be worn out for the playoffs.

  189. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
    Does anyone know off the top of their head – is the ALCS 2-3-2 or does it matter who is in first? (travel dates etc..)
    ****

    I am 99% sure its 2-3-2

  190. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
    Does anyone know off the top of their head – is the ALCS 2-3-2 or does it matter who is in first? (travel dates etc..)
    ****

    I am 99% sure its 2-3-2

  191. Ed - 2009 will be the year of the Yanks October 8th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    if Aj win us game 2 tomorrow night, I will seriously treat myself a NYY steak. have you seen the prices? its crazy.

  192. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    Even the Soup Nazi had a soft spot in his heart, Erica. I guess you did too.
    ****

    I am just a giant softie when it really comes down to it….

  193. m October 8th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Frank,

    It’s actually Rathole Stadium-Home of the (Obtuse) Angles.

  194. CB October 8th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    “i knew it would increase the average number of runs scored, but because of the double play wouldn’t that sometimes cut the inning short with no run scoring.”

    I’d have to look more at how these situations are specifically modelled and the assumptions that go into them.

    But run expectancy is generally done by Makov chain methods so it should take into account the frequency of scoring any runs as part of the model.

    I’d guess the logic in the model would go something like this: Given the base runners situation: 1) first model the probability of scoring any runs (i.e. probability of not scoring 0); 2) If runs scored is greater than 0 what is the average runs scored?

    That’s the most straightforward way I can describe what’s going on. Markov chains are much more complicated than that, but given that we’re only comparing two situations (man on 1st 0 outs vs. 1 and 3rd 1 out) we can roughly think of it as I described it (I think…).

    The model takes both factors into account and combines them together – the probabilty of scoring any runs and then how many runs score.

    It isn’t exactly figuring out if any runs score but that is likely to be factored in and significantly influences the total runs expected output.

    Double plays should be factored in – but again, I’d have to look that up in more detail.

  195. mick October 8th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    its 2-3-2 with a day off after games 2, 4 & 5

  196. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    18 hours and 3 minutes until Game 2!!!!!!!!!

  197. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 8th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    “I am 99% sure its 2-3-2″

    Thanks shower tease. At least that means just one trip to the west coast if it’s Angels-Yanks.

  198. Carlo October 8th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    2,3,2

    100% sure.

  199. Pat M. October 8th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    tampayank…..There’s a few clubs in Newport Beach that Derek likes to visit after the game…..

  200. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    DT – OPPC member (blood type – Positive)
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
    “I am 99% sure its 2-3-2?

    Thanks shower tease. At least that means just one trip to the west coast if it’s Angels-Yanks.
    *****

    Anytime (I think).

    Although, for purely selfish reasons I do not want the Yanks to face the Angels because then some of the games might be at night. Then I don’t get enough sleep and become Zombie Erica. And Zombie Erica is really grouchy

  201. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    “you would have thought the red sox had a one game play-in last night… the twins looked more alive last night than the sox do tonight”

    The Sox simply aren’t the same team on the road as they are at home. Been that way the whole season.

    They are a very different offensive team at home. Their production is very contingent on their RH hitters being able to peg extra base hits off the monster.

    One of the reasons why they’ve had so much trouble at Yankee stadium the second half of the season is that left field in the stadium is a tough place to pull balls.

  202. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    Does wannabe-Letterman-extortionist Joe Halderman look like anyone we know?

    http://image3.examiner.com/ima.....derman.jpg

  203. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    cb-

    thanks for getting into that. i’ll do some checking on this myself this fall.
    i used to have a simple markov chart that was very easy to understand.

  204. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Perhaps you can picture him standing next to Sweeney Murti?

    http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/im.....58751x.jpg

  205. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Why is it that every time a Red Sox pitcher hits a batter it is never intentional?

  206. Jeremy October 9th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Boston is giving up on this game. Why do you let Ramirez pitch in a 3-0 game when he has sucked in the second half.

  207. Ed - 2009 will be the year of the Yanks October 9th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Nick,

    he’s a fat verison of Mike Lowell. good catch.

  208. baseballfab October 9th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    check out bucknors wiki!

    During cold weather games, Bucknor wears a long-sleeve pullover shirt behind the plate, instead of the plate jacket. He is known to be very dramatic when calling third strikes.

    On Oct. 8, 2009, Bucknor made two terrible calls against the Boston Red Sox during Game 1 of the American League Division Series. In between innings, he admitted, “not understanding why they didn’t let Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder drive a car.”

    “What’s the big deal?” Bucknor said. “I call games just fine!”

    During the off-season, Bucknor, who is legally blind, speaks at the Helen Keller Institute for Sensory Impaired Children.

  209. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    But I thought Ramirez was so fantastic? Isn’t that what they said as he was coming in? Leaves with the bases juiced, no outs.

  210. Jeremy October 9th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    CB
    You’re right. The Red Sox offense looks really bad on the road. But when there at Fenway they look alive.

  211. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    the resemblance is slight… but I heard from 48 Hour sources Halderman adores Arod, loves the bunt, thinks Bruce is a sissy, and has never heard of Angel Berroa.

  212. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    I was thinking of someone (formerly) a little closer to home.

    Maybe it’s just me.

  213. Bronx Jeers October 9th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Oops.

    Apparently Pete made the mistake of saying it was John Wallace that made a trip to the mound to meet with Lester.

    Somebody called him on it.

    I guess he should keep his eyes on this board while working.

  214. rconn23 October 9th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Nick,

    So that’s why he left, because he thought he was going to cash that $2 million Letterman check:)

  215. Ed - 2009 will be the year of the Yanks October 9th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Nick,

    he does look like him, but Lowell was the first name that camre up.

  216. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    cb-

    i found that chart:
    http://74.125.93.132/search?q=.....ent=safari

    it’s the chart half way down the page.
    Net Expected Run Values (NERV)

  217. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    So I’m not totally crazy. Good.

    Meanwhile, I need more runs in this game and there’s a Saito for sore eyes.

    (sorry)

  218. Erica - always OPPC October 9th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Good night Yankee People!!!!!

  219. Tarheelyank October 9th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    Good night, E

  220. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    good night Erica. Sleep well.

    I’ll be there in a minute…

  221. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    My goodness, bases loaded no outs on the road and Saito has to call the catcher out to the mound to “get comfortable” with what’s being called.

    How will Saito every get this out with the monumental breakdown in communication?

    How can’t Varitek be playing?

  222. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    :mad:

  223. baseballfab October 9th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Wow, I have NEVER seen THAT double play

  224. bru October 9th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    the rs do not have that magic

    papi is not as feared,lowell,varitek also

    no power from ells or pedroia & lester & becket are not as dominant

    ss not great,bay is good but not defensively

    their bp is not as good as i thought it was

    the only shot they have is if their pitching is lights out & they are not off to a good start

  225. baseballfab October 9th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    and another blown call this is a disgrace

  226. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    The umpires give and they take away. I think Hunter was safe there.

  227. JoeMama October 9th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Another terrible call there, just unbelievable

  228. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    I guess they finally figured out that they couldn’t let the umps make any more calls.

  229. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Is this really a playoff game? The RS look pretty sloppy out there.

  230. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    I thought Bad Pun Karma was going to come back to bite me there.

  231. Pat M. October 9th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    JD can still play the of as well as anyone…Bay, he’s not very good at all…..Real poor throw to Lowell ….

  232. The Ghost October 9th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    I wonder if Mauer and Posada were watching Martinez block the plate on that play at the plate.

  233. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    how could hunter not be off on the crack of the bat on that ground ball and get to third before the ball is thrown to to home and back to third ?

    he must have got lost in a baseball bermuda triangle, but it doesn’t matter because the angels score anyway :)

  234. Corey October 9th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Those 2 runs SHOULD seal it. I say SHOULD because nothing is certain in this damn game of baseball.

  235. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    “Wow, I have NEVER seen THAT double play”

    that’s because the runner on second should have a big lead so he’s not running that far to third .

    the hitter is running all the way from home so the play goes to first usually.

  236. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    randy,

    that’s the pretty standard way run expectancy is calculated. I just skimmed it but that doesn’t directly answer your question. It indirectly factors it in as I touched on prior with other run expectancy methods.

    BTW that looks like a good reference. I’ll read it in more detail later.

  237. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    It was a little risky as well though, on that throw to Lowell. He was not expecting it and if he missed it that would have been very costly. Hunter did a poor baserunning job there, but Victor really didn’t make a good judgment play there.

  238. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    The play at third base was close last inning, but the ball beat the runner. Every knows third base has it’s own special MF rules.

  239. djsunyc October 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    never like to see teams screwed by the umps, including the redsox…putting guys on first when they shouldn’t be changes the entire inning. tough for lester…oh well…still want yanks/angels – i think that would be an infinitely more fun series to watch.

    boston = BOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

  240. djsunyc October 9th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    not for nothing, but the mets bullpen was never the same after oliver left before the 07 season…

  241. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    “Bay, he’s not very good at all…..Real poor throw to Lowell ….”

    Good bat. Awful glove. He’s always had a poor arm but after he hurt his knees he never recovered defensively. He’s a huge liability out there both in terms of range and his arm.

    Last season the Sox were one of the top 5 defensive teams in baseball. This year they’ve been of the 5 worst. Bay has been a big part of that.

  242. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    cb-

    it’s a good place for me to start to get into statistical analysis. for some reason the markov approach seems straight forward and makes sense to me.

  243. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Not good situational hitting for the Sox, they haven’t moved the runner over on two chances.

  244. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    I wonder what the Sox are going to do in the off season for covering left. Bay, Holliday?

  245. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:32 am

    as much as I’d love to see LAA sweep – a five game series would help the Yanks.
    Both teams would have to fly east for two games in Boston and then fly back to LA for game 5 – the winner would have to fly back east to play the Yanks in NY.

    Can you buy milkshakes with frequent flyer miles?

  246. djsunyc October 9th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    I wonder what the Sox are going to do in the off season for covering left. Bay, Holliday?

    ———–

    it’s a poor free agency winter…

    if they want to keep up with the yanks, they need to not only sign holliday but trade for halladay…

    but imho, the victor martinez trade didn’t help, papi’s on the downtrend, lowell is done and drew stinks. they need at least 1 new starter and 2 big time every day players.

  247. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    randy,

    Hard to estimate the impact that markov methods have had on the contemporary world.

    They’ve been fundamental to the development of the internet, for example.

  248. timo October 9th, 2009 at 12:36 am

    Abreu will be on the market again. Bad enough he went to the Angels. Really wouldn’t want to see him with the Red Sox.

  249. Jim the VT Yankeefan October 9th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Not good situational hitting for the Sox, they haven’t moved the runner over on two chances.

    ============================================
    LOL, you realize they are down 5 runs, right?

  250. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:39 am

    cb-

    i’ll keep you posted.

    we’ll see if an old dog can learn new tricks :)

  251. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    So after tonight can we officially dump Lester into the “not an ace” category?

    If CC had thrown a game like Lester did tonight he clearly would have been in that dog house.

  252. JasonR October 9th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    The Red Sox haven’t scored a run in 17 postseason innings.

  253. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    :evil:

  254. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    david ortiz strikes out. the only way to end a game better is a burnett pie.

  255. randy l. October 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    wow , 5-0 shut out.

    angels win it with the long ball.

    kudos again to pat m for calling it with tori hunter.

  256. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    “If CC had thrown a game like Lester did tonight he clearly would have been in that dog house.”

    Red Sox Nation will blame the umps. If that was CC, Posada would have been to blame. ;-)

  257. Matt October 9th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Big Papi better find a vitamin milkshake…pronto! haha!

  258. DT - OPPC member (blood type - Positive) October 9th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    sounds like Nick missed the run total?

  259. Doreen October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Gotta love Torii Hunter.

    m -

    I didn’t see a game thread by Pete over there. Am I looking in the right place?

  260. Abdababdaserser October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Jim, the point was that both times they hit to Figgins while Drew was on second. Figgins looked him back both times, and got the runner at first. Getting shutout takes a lot more out of the team than scoring only 1 run.

    I personally don’t care, as I can’t stand the Sox. This game made the Sox look really poor. I wish it were possible that both teams lost that game, but this will get into their heads a bit.

  261. Doreen October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Oops. I see. It’s Pete and someone else.

  262. CB October 9th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    For years yankee fans have bowed at the altar of the red sox.

    Theo is the greatest GM in history.

    Josh Beckett makes Bob Gibson an afterthought.

    Youkilis and Pedroia are “clutch” and “gritty hustlers” who always give 1000% and are the kind of players that Alex and say Cano could never be.

    I can’t even imagine the outrage of yankee fans if the yanks had played a post season game like the mighty Sox just did. The Sox didn’t even compete in this game.

  263. Jeremy October 9th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Maybe the Yankees should get Lackey.

  264. RyanM October 9th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    No thanks Jeremy. He did great tonight against the Red Sox, but his track record sucks, especially in Fenway park where he was once caught on camera on the mound saying: “I @#$%ING HATE THIS PLACE!”

  265. 100 pitches of fun... October 9th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    Good luck to the Sox who have the best post season pitcher of all time….with a bad back, then lab tops and Dice walk the ballpark K. They face Kazmir in game 3 who they never hit.

  266. pat October 9th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    Martinez, Youk, Ortiz 0-11, 1BB, 4Ks

  267. haiku-man October 9th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    All the bragging in the world that the red slops did this week and were shut out tonite. Who owns whom now!

    Check out the game thread on nesn,they are crazed.

  268. chris October 9th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    They’re ripping on Pete on his new blog, because he said that Boston’s pitching coach is Dave Wallace.

  269. PittsburghYankeeFan October 9th, 2009 at 1:12 am

    So going over to look at Extra Bases—

    57 comments for the game blog, in a playoff game. Pete Abe’s got his work cut out for himself over there, especially when he is co-blogging, and co-beat writing.

    I know his dream was to write for his hometown team, but is this a step up? I guess we’ll see.

    Great work Chad and Sam. Great work. This blog is even better than it was two weeks ago.

    PS–Sox look very bad. Must win for Beckett tomorrow. This is not your typical Angels-Sox series, boys and girls.

  270. 100 pitches of fun... October 9th, 2009 at 1:14 am

    The Angels/Sox series is hard to watch and know which team to “root” for. I think without a doubt the Sox would be the easier team to beat. I think they have the worst team they have bad in years. The Angels still have to prove they can beat them and I can never root for the Sox.

  271. Bronx Jeers October 9th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Did you ever go to an old barber shop where they have those faded pictures of guys with haircuts feom the early 70′s?

    Dennis Eckersley looks like one of those guys.

  272. Buddy Biancalana October 9th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    The Sox blog is a joke.

  273. haiku-man October 9th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    Watch the conversation shift,with the media and Sawx when the Angels win #2 tomorrow.

    You’re gonna hear about the 2004 come from behind and win.
    This isn’t the same team,that one had multiple juicer’s.

  274. Bronx Jeers October 9th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    That blog is like the old saying.

    “If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it does it make a sound?”

    If you write for a blog and no one reads it is it really worth the trouble?

  275. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 1:25 am

    The Soxenfreude is nice, but all they need to do is split to turn it around.

  276. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    I think there are more comments on this blog about that blog than there actually are on that blog.

    What does this have to do with anything?

    I guess it beats trying to explain to people why replacing Jorge Posada with Jose Molina hurts the Yankees chances of winning.

    I wonder if there are any GMs that like Molina as much as some of the people on this blog? Maybe we could trade Molina for Halladay in the offseason. Here’s the pitch: Don’t look at it as losing 1 ace, look at it as Molina turning every pitcher on your roster into an ace.

  277. haiku-man October 9th, 2009 at 1:32 am

    I’ll bet Sam and Chad are stoked to have a successful blog.

    The # 1 Yankee blog. Pete took a step down,but he’s home.?

    Isn’t Ferrell the pitch coach?

  278. 100 pitches of fun... October 9th, 2009 at 1:33 am

    I know this is old news but did everyone see Cole Hamel’s wife went into labor today while he was pitching. She sent a text message to the clubhouse attendant saying “I’m in the hospital going into labor. Could you please tell Cole as soon as he is done pitching.” lol. Perfect timing, so they pinch hit for him after 5 innings and he went to the hospital.

  279. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 1:34 am

    no.27, you know I am sympatico with your position on this issue. But how do you feel about the premise that Girardi has a good sense that Burnett is even more of a headcase than many think he is and needs Molina’s tender shoulders to lean on?

  280. haiku-man October 9th, 2009 at 1:35 am

    Angels/Socks series, root for it to go the distance,and deplete their bull pens.

  281. Jerkface October 9th, 2009 at 1:40 am

    Posada had some really nice words for AJ and Molina today.

    “I wasn’t jumping for joy when I heard the news, but this is it, this is a team thing, we have to do this. I havent caught AJ in a while. AJ and Josy were running good together”

    “I am really excited to see them go at it.”

  282. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 1:57 am

    Nick,

    I’m 100% sure that Joe Girardi knows more about what makes AJ Burnett tick than I do. But if the argument has gotten to the point where you need to assume that Burnett is a complete basket case for this to be a good baseball decision, then signing Burnett was a big mistake.

    Last year Burnett has starts where he gave up 5 or more earned runs SEVEN times. That includes: 2 8-ER starts, 1 7-ER starts, 2 6-ER starts, and 2 5-ER starts.

    He’s an inconsistent pitcher that can be dominant at times. I think some fans expected more than that from him and are using the Posada thing as an excuse.

  283. haiku-man October 9th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    As per Bostondirtdogs.com

    Tori Spelling trouble for Lester,Sox…..Priceless!!!

    The picture says it all.Martinez was catching too.

    Bwahahahah!!

  284. Pat M. October 9th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    AJ will electrify the Stadium tomorrow, and will lockdown the Twins in the process……He’s in the early stages of a dominating run that will carry into Novemeber….The same signs that led me to believe this during the summer are in place now for the same string of dominance……

  285. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am

    Well, mistake or not, here he is. Blowups aside, he’s had some pretty big games for us and was a key cog to the run that vaulted us beyond Boston.

    Who knows whee we’d be without him, or where we’d be with who we would’ve gotten instead.

    Maybe it’s just all about getting AJ into a comfort zone while he pops his postseason cherry. If Girardi thinks AJ needs Molina all the way through, thinks could get interesting.

  286. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am

    can you tell us about some of those signs?

  287. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:19 am

    Pat M, I really hope you are right about that. AJ has a great opportunity tomorrow, and we all win if he takes it.

  288. Pat M. October 9th, 2009 at 2:28 am

    no.27…..Timing and tempo, repeatative motion….

  289. 100 pitches of fun... October 9th, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Hopefully AJ follows his pattern of having 10-11 good starts in a row. Right now he has had 4…Keep it coming…

  290. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Don’t get me wrong. AJ Burnett has been the Yankees 2nd or 3rd most important starter this season. Everyone knows he can completely dominate a game, and the Yankees wouldn’t be in the playoffs without the 200+ innings he pitched this year.

    I actually think I’m defending him by saying that he’s not a basketcase that needs Molina to catch him.

  291. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 2:34 am

    And I’m not saying I don’t think he will do well. All I’m saying is that the Yankees lineup is much worse without Posada, who has always been one of the Yankees most consistent hitters.

  292. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:37 am

    I don’t think he’s that much of a basketcase either and we have all seen excellent results with Posada behind the plate. But it’s what Girardi thinks that counts… if Molina gets a 4-year contract extension, then we’ll really know what the brain trust thinks. ;)

  293. JeterHughesJoba October 9th, 2009 at 2:38 am

    I think it’s pretty bad for Pete to leave right before the playoffs. Seriously, he couldn’t have waited until after the Yankees win it all to bolt out the door?

    Either way, it’s his loss, not ours. The thing that makes this blog so great is all of the commenters who love the Yankees. Pete did a good job, but his analysis wasn’t amazing. In fact, many posters on this blog provided more thoughtful and persuasive arguments than Pete.

    Plus, who’s going to miss the constant Arod bashing?

  294. JeterHughesJoba October 9th, 2009 at 2:41 am

    I was vehemently against starting Molina for Game 2, but Posada’s blunders in Game 1 have changed my mind.

    2 pastballs in one inning, costing the Yankees a run? That’s unacceptable and falls on the catcher for not making sure he was on the same page with CC.

    It just magnifies Posada’s deficiences behind the plate; especially when you consider that he can’t throw anyone out.

    Also, anyone hear Posada’s comments where he threw CC under the bus? You’d think he’d no better, apparently not!

  295. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:42 am

    So you’re glad Pete left but you wish he’d waited longer to go?

  296. damon October 9th, 2009 at 2:43 am

    Pete didn’t want to write glowing reviews about the Yankees in postseason,especially when they whoop up on bos@!#.

  297. JeterHughesJoba October 9th, 2009 at 2:45 am

    No, I didn’t want him to stay longer.

    Just pointing out that it’s pretty ackward to run out the door right before the playoffs. Anyone else find that a bit weird?

  298. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:47 am

    Just the timing of the new gig. New boss probably wanted him there ASAP. Awkward, maybe, but him staying an extra month after he got a new job would have been awkward too.

    The new crew is doing great.

  299. JeterHughesJoba October 9th, 2009 at 2:53 am

    Would’ve been nice to see Pete to finally have to give Arod some credit for once though right?

  300. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 2:54 am

    He can give credit from afar. :)

  301. Ed H. (Winner of Guess the Postseason Roster!) October 9th, 2009 at 3:00 am

    I’m sure that the editors at The Globe wanted Pete to start before the playoffs rather than after the season. Interest is high now and Pete has a chance to attract a following in Boston during the playoffs. Readership would be much lower after the playoffs and a new person would not have much of an audience to work with.

  302. no.27 October 9th, 2009 at 3:01 am

    Burnett will be fine. I predict that he will eventually have to pitch to Posada in the playoffs and will have a great game that will put this idea to rest for good.

  303. KO October 9th, 2009 at 3:21 am

    Yanks will sweep this series 100%

  304. KO October 9th, 2009 at 3:23 am

    doesn’t matter who catches… the defensive and pitching boost molina gives can balance out jorge’s bat… look at these other guys in the lineup.. Jeter, damon, tex, a-rod, matsui, swisher, cano, do I really need to go on that is more than enough to get it done

  305. m October 9th, 2009 at 3:34 am

    God, Nick. That was just crass.

  306. m October 9th, 2009 at 3:48 am

    A little (clean) humor and perspective:

    http://www.newsday.com/columni.....-1.1511800

  307. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 4:05 am

    :?:

  308. m October 9th, 2009 at 4:13 am

    cherry

  309. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 4:21 am

    I’m sorry if that phrase indicated such grossness of mind as precludes delicacy and discrimination and/or was beneath my dignity. No offense was intended.

    The idea — minus the crassness — has been suggested here before.

  310. Zach in Port Jeff on iphone October 9th, 2009 at 4:31 am

    Happened to watch to watch the Sox game at a bar in the East village…packed with Bostonians…

    One of the best nights I’ve had in many a night.

  311. m October 9th, 2009 at 4:36 am

    Was that an apology? ;)

    Anyway, I’m bowing out for a bit (going dark?).

    I’ve seen enough over the last 2-3 days to see that tomorrow’s going to be a rough, rough day.

    Too many ZOMG!! How did that pitcher ever make it through that inning without the catcher going to the mound to hold his hand!!

    And Game 2 hasn’t even started yet.

    Good luck to AJ and the Yankees.

  312. Median October 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am

    mel: thx for the link, good article.

    In other news, looks like the Sox have their own Posadagate, but Francona has opted for the offense: http://tinyurl.com/yff7wgq

    Some quotes:

    “In another signal of Jason Varitek’s diminishing role on the Red Sox, Victor Martinez will catch Josh Beckett in Friday’s Game 2.”

    “Martinez gives the Red Sox an abundantly obvious offensive upgrade over Varitek.”

    “Francona has talked about stubborn Beckett can be, and Beckett’s conviction in his pitches is far stronger when he throws to Varitek.”

    “In the three games Beckett threw to Martinez, opponents batted .373 with a 1.021 OPS against him. In the 27 games Beckett threw to Varitek, opponents batted .217 with a .625 OPS.”

  313. Nick in SF October 9th, 2009 at 4:56 am

    It was the very dictionary definition of an apology.

    If commenters are accusing other commenters of not supporting the team, of hating AJ Burnett, or of being too scared/disgusted to watch Jose Molina bat, it will be a rough day here indeed.

    ;)

  314. Crawdaddy October 9th, 2009 at 5:33 am

    Some very confusing sour grapes from the Red Sox Nation Rotoworld:

    “John Lackey blanked the Red Sox for 7 2/3 innings Thursday to pick up the victory in Game 1 of the ALDS.

    It was scoreless until the fifth, when Torii Hunter broke it open against Jon Lester with a three-run homer. The Angels later added two insurance runs in the seventh, and Darren Oliver finished the 5-0 shutout by retiring five in a row to end the game. The Angels received assistance from first-base umpire C.B. Bucknor in the contest, as he blew two obvious calls that went against the Red Sox. However, those didn’t come in the innings in which the Angels scored. It probably wouldn’t have mattered if the Angels scored one run or the full five, given Boston’s at-bats tonight.”

    http://www.rotoworld.com/

  315. Crawdaddy October 9th, 2009 at 5:36 am

    The following Posada quote deserve repeating as certain Yankee fans were ripping on Posada for not being a good teammate.

    “I wasn’t jumping for joy when I heard the news, but this is it, this is a team thing, we have to do this. I havent caught AJ in a while. AJ and Josy were running good together”

    “I am really excited to see them go at it.”

  316. ELKEAL October 9th, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Does anyone have the info on Pete Abe? I’ve been on the Globe web site and can’t find him.

  317. chris October 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am

    In related news, baseball writers of america just awarded the 2009 season MVP to ……

    Barack Obama.

  318. link20 October 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am

    If it’s October, it must be raining in the Bronx.

  319. Mark in Tampa October 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am

    ELKEAL,

    Pete shares the Extra Bases blog at the Globe. It is about 1/3 down on the left side of the web page.

  320. Mark in Tampa October 9th, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Having the PitchTrax box on the screen for every pitch can be a pretty good feature, I think, but does anybody else that this TBS version is very inaccurate? It seems to be OK as to whether the pitch is a strike or a ball, but there have been pitches way out of the zone that show up as being just a couple inches from being a strike. Seems to be mostly high or low that is off. I know it’s just a small thing, but it’s driving me nuts.

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