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Thoughts from Gardenhire, Blackburn, Span and Kubel

Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Oct 08, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Lots of audio for you this morning from the enemy. Obviously, the focus shifted throughout the three separate press conference, but here’s a quick overview:

— Nick Blackburn will start Game 2 vs. A.J. Burnett. He was asked about his experience in big games (Blackburn started the one-game playoff in 2008, a 1-0 loss, and bested Zack Grienke on short rest on Saturday) and how he will possibly navigate through the parade of mashers put forth by the Yankees.

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— Next up was Ron Gardenhire, or Gardy, a down home quote machine. The first thing you’ll hear him joke about actually happened: seven writers were stuck in the elevator for about 20-25 minutes. Luckily, I wasn’t one of them. I heard the elevator grind to a halt as I walked down the stairs to the basement level. Needless to say, some of the stranded laughed it off, others not so much. Gardy made light of it, as you’re about to hear.

During his presser, Gardenhire explained the real reason the Yankees dominate the Twins, and it has nothing to do with mystique or sorcery. “That’s a good ballclub they’ve got over there,” he said. Who can argue that?

Gardenhire also coined a nice phrase for why the Yankee lineup has seemed to prevail over his team as their games wear on. He said it is a “continuance of pressure” that wears away at you throughout the course of the game.

The Minnesota manager was also asked about the growing strength of the Yankee ‘pen, now armed with Joba Chamberlain. “They can make a start last six innings,” he said.

More here from Gardenhire, who, at the end, officially announced Carl Pavano as the Game 3 starter:

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— Lastly, there was a joint press conference with Jason Kubel and Denard Span. Span said “I don’t think anyone believes in a hex,” but the Yankees dominance over the Twinkies dominated the conversation.

One thing to note on the audio: In most cases, Kubel answers the question first, followed by Span.

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118 Responses to “Thoughts from Gardenhire, Blackburn, Span and Kubel”

  1. Rogger October 8th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    “continuance of pressure” ….. I like it

  2. Yankee FAN October 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    LETS GO YANKEES!!!!!!

  3. Rishi October 8th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    not sure if anyone posted this yet from Buster:
    ================================

    Rivera’s run

    More from Mr. Simon, who sent this to me before the Yankees’ game on Wednesday:

    Mariano Rivera is the only active player in the majors who wears uniform No. 42. By coincidence, he has pitched in 42 postseason games in Yankee Stadium. His ERA there? 0.42. As good as Mariano Rivera has been in the postseason, if you look at his performance in front of Yankees fans, it’s even more amazing. In those 42 games, Rivera has pitched 64 2/3 innings. He’s allowed 37 hits and four runs, three of which were earned. Thirty nine of his appearances were scoreless. He’s struck out 56 and walked two. Opponents are hitting .162 against him (37 for 228).

    Mariano’s indoctrination to postseason play began in Yankee Stadium in Game 2 of the 1995 ALDS against the Mariners. He replaced closer John Wetteland in the 12th inning with the Yankees down a run. Jay Buhner was his first batter, and Rivera finished him off on four pitches. He’d pitch scoreless innings in the 13th, 14th, and 15th, and the Yankees would win on Jim Leyritz’s home run. The next 17 times Rivera pitched at Yankee Stadium, he was not charged with a run, and only one of the seven runners he inherited scored.

    Rivera finally showed his fallability in Game 6 of the 2000 ALCS when he allowed a run to those same Mariners. It didn’t matter though. The next hitter he faced was Jay Buhner. Another strikeout. Three outs later, the Yankees clinched the pennant on the way to their third straight World Series title. And on and on, it has gone.

    It has been nearly eight years since Mariano Rivera allowed a run in a postseason game at Yankee Stadium. His current postseason scoreless streak at home is 29 1/3 innings (the most by anyone ever in their home park). And in another amazing coincidence for an amazing pitcher, the first 29 1/3 postseason innings he threw at Yankee Stadium were scoreless as well. Here are the longest postseason scoreless innings streaks at a home ballpark.

  4. vin October 8th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Nice work, Josh. I like the LoHud three-headed monster approach to the playoffs.

  5. Pel October 8th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    >“continuance of pressure” ….. I like it

    A/K/A The Circular Lineup.

  6. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    But Baker started the 1-game playoff on Tuesday for the Twins…I are confused. Have they played a 1-game playoff 3 straight years, and I am forgetting? I know they played the ChiSox last year.

  7. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 8th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes. Your 11:21am post in the other thread-round of applause. Well said.

  8. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Friday night? = “Continuance of Pressure”…..and then Molina. :wink:

  9. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    ESPN has really lost their mind letting John Kruk write articles.

    “Another important point the Red Sox must consider is to allow Lester to go deep in the game. That way, manager Terry Francona can mix and match his bullpen.”

    Really, you have to CONSIDER letting Lester, your ace, go deep into games? There are so many things wrong with these two sentences I do not think I even have to address it further, other than what the hell does that mean?

    “Lackey and Josh Beckett are capable of demoralizing a team, and it’s unclear whether the Angels have that shutdown pitcher to counter it.”

    Nice job by the editors over at ESPN. First you let an idiot be a “journalist” and then you do not even catch his mistakes. I think you mean Lester and Beckett Kruk

  10. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Molina: the release valve?

  11. Rex October 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    “and it’s unclear whether the Angels have that shutdown pitcher to counter it”

    Beyond the stunning sentence structure and apparent absence of editing, Kruk is vastly underrating John Lackey, IMO.

  12. m October 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    I’m sorry, did I miss something? Change of venue to Boston for Game 1?

    Boston pitching will have to be perfect outside of the sardine can.

  13. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Not to mention Weaver is no slouch himself and has only given up 1 run in two starts vs the Red Sox. And of course Kazmir dominates the Red Sox.

  14. Josh Thomson October 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Andrew…Yes, I’m insane. Blackburn pitched on Sat., but he pitched on short rest and bested Greinke (albeit in a no decision). I will fix it.

  15. Mark in Tampa October 8th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “Molina: the release valve?”

    That is classic!

    Gardenhire says the Yankee bullpen can make a start be 6 innings. It is, in fact, much better than that. With the playoff off days, Hughes and Mariano can split 3 innings. Joba can shut down the 6th. That leaves Coke and Marte to match up with any tough lefties within those innings. If necessary, Robertson can shut down the 5th, and Aceves hasn’t even been mentioned yet. I would like to see Robertson get an inning on Friday to test his playoff nerves, however.

  16. CountryClub October 8th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    I love how Beckett being pounded for the past month is just ignored. If that was AJ or Pettitte it’s all you’d hear about.

  17. m October 8th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4541464

    Good article by Crasnick. But I’m looking forward to a time (far) in the future when writers don’t feel compelled to tell us again how much the stadium cost. One year? Three? Five?

  18. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Country club -

    That’s because “everyone” expects Beckett to dial it up for the playoffs. Didn’t you know he’s the best PS pitcher ever?

    (Note: he is good in the post-season, I do know this)

  19. Rex October 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    “Not to mention Weaver is no slouch himself and has only given up 1 run in two starts vs the Red Sox. And of course Kazmir dominates the Red Sox.”

    Can’t really explain why, but I don’t trust Weaver to be very good. Kazmir is 8-7 vs. Boston with a 3.60 ERA. That’s effective, but not especially dominating. Pretty even series in what I think are the 2nd and 3rd best teams in baseball. Yankees may be waiting a bit between ALDS and ALCS play.

  20. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Murderers Row and then G.O. ?

    G.O. = groundout. (I know it’s not very good…Feel free to improve upon it)

  21. upstate kate October 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    while I have a lot of respect for Lester, he isn’t infallable either…the Yankees scored 3 runs on him before Melky’s line drive…I think this year’s Angels might surprise the Sox, who think they can win just by showing up (or at least that is what their fans think)

  22. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Bronx Jeers -

    Aack! I want to stay away from any and all slogans! They are death! (The one you mentioned, plus “generation trey” or whatever that ended up being.) :lol: :lol:

  23. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Also, don’t get taken in by the folksy approach by Gardenhire. (Like Leyland a few years ago) throwing accolades in NY’s direction. Don’t let your guard down!!!!! :lol: :lol:

    (Note: I do like Gardenhire, but beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing!)

  24. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    You were right either way, Josh, because Blackburn has pitched big games for them, and performed well, as you correctly point out; he will be no slouch on Friday night.

  25. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Generation Just-Us-Two, pending Ian Kennedy’s amazing, heartwarming, here’s-your-plate-of-shutup-sucka!! comeback.

    Murderer’s Row and Run Slow? Eh, not so great.

  26. m October 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Murderers Row + Hey, we just might win anyway!

  27. Stultus Magnus October 8th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Just as long as Molina does a good job defensively and is somewhat patient at the plate, I’ll be happy.

    Otherwise, I’ll be angry.

  28. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Bronx Jeers, but in the spirit of fun: “Murder’s Row and then Uh-Oh!”

  29. Mark in Tampa October 8th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    I don’t know if anybody else found it kind of funny that Joe Torre is in a place with his pitching staff that he had to put Jeff Weaver in the game when it was still in doubt. Then Weaver got the win.

    Weaver was our white-flag guy in ’03. I knew in that extra inning game against the Marlins that Torre was giving up the game to save the rest of his staff when he brought in Weaver. Now he is depending on Weaver, at least in part, for his postseason success.

  30. PittsburghYankeeFan October 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Angels in 4. Hex is over. This year’s Sox team is good—against Baltimore.

  31. pat October 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    A quick reminder that all baseball players aren’t MENSA members….

    From SI
    “At the 2001 playoffs, he (Nick Johnson) asked a writer about the dogs on the field, and when he was told they were bomb-sniffing dogs, Johnson responded, “What are they looking for?” “

  32. Mark in Tampa October 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    “I do like Gardenhire, but beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing”

    The old Lou Holtz approach!

  33. upstate kate October 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    m
    All the discussion about the Dallas Cowboy’s new over the top stadium has helped. It does seem like no article about the Yankees can be written w/o mentioning the expensive seats, HRs, payroll, Arod’s failures etc. It gets tiresome. And good for Gardenhire for not going w/ the easy excuse of being tired.

  34. PittsburghYankeeFan October 8th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Torre will lose a game with Weaver this postseason. Some people just never learn.

  35. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    m: poor rhyme scheme.

  36. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Murderers Row, but without Po?

    Murderers Row and you never know?

  37. Abdababdaserser October 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Generation Trey was Mickey Kay. That was his name and he pushed it endlessly, even though almost all the fans hated it. I wonder if the three young arms also hated it so much that they imploded. lol.

    The media like to try to recapture the golden olden days and it usually flops.

    I remember the Red Sox Angels series where Nancy Drew hit a home run and they went off on saying that he was Mantle like. Never mind that he wasn’t and never has been, but simply because they saw a number 7 on his back.

    Murder’s Row was Murder’s Row. Its tied to that team and era.

    I think it shows how far too many of the mediots (those who give opinions as if they are facts) just are not very clever or original.

  38. CountryClub October 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Here’s the article SI did on Mo this week. great stuff…

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c...../index.htm

  39. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Jeff Weaver and Kenny Rogers both made the same deal with the devil (or I guess with the pine tar in Rogers’ case) to suddenly be able to pitch well in the postseason after flopping miserably prior to 2006. If by the grace of God and hours of praying by all the editors at the NYC newspapers it’s a Yankees/Dodgers World Series, I expect to be seeing a lot of Jeff Weaver’s head snapping around to watch home runs leave the yard.

  40. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Or a rallying cry: Murderer’s Row? Not without Po!

  41. MT October 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    I found this on Deadspin… we’re so lucky to be Yankee fans!

    http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....csportsbog

  42. Rex October 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    “I love how Beckett being pounded for the past month is just ignored”

    Well, in September he was 2-1 in 5 starts with a 3.66 ERA, 31 K, 4 BB, and only 3 homers allowed in 32 innings. Not superb, but not all that bad either. I think people are a litle guilty of taking those three starts in mid-late August when he allowed 10 homers and 20 runs in 18+ innings and attributing it to the “past month” when in fact most of the beating was going down nearly a month and half ago.

  43. m October 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Nick,

    I’ll work on some alliteration to mix it up a little.

    kate,

    I’m looking forward to the day that we don’t have the highest payroll….Not in my time?

  44. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Doreen,

    Any slogan relating to Molina’s ineptness with the bat are OK at this point because based on the LoHoud law of reverse predetermination, the more we smear Molina, the better he will do.

    For instance, Me & Nick just earned him a single.

  45. PittsburghYankeeFan October 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    You know, in thinking about the turning point of both the Yankees and Mets seasons, I really think it wad the Subway commercial.

    What is CC’s record since the Subway commercial? Anyone?

  46. vin October 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    “Now he is depending on Weaver, at least in part, for his postseason success.”

    Yeah, the NL is weird, huh?

  47. Rex October 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “Now he is depending on Weaver, at least in part, for his postseason success.”

    Tony LaRussa succesfully did the same. You never know.

  48. m October 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    “Murderers Row, then hand it to Mo”

    Well, first to Phil, then to Mo. :)

  49. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    “Murderers Row and you never know?”

    I like that one best, as it allows for optimism, even though we pretty much do know about 78% of the time.

    It’s not a big slam on Molina, m, it’s just having fun with the fact that the Yanks are relinquishing the feature of our lineup that Mr. Gardenhire discusses.

  50. Bronx Jeers October 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Excellent work ladies.

    Now it’s an RBI single!

  51. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Bronx Jeers -

    So “Murderer’s Row and then Uh-Oh” should be a net positive?? :)

  52. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    woo hoo..Francesca starting his show with a very exciting goodbye to the WFAN Astoria studio

  53. pat October 8th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Murderers Row and Jose Mo.

    Muderers Row, we’re good to go.

  54. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    I’m not ready to say Joba is lockdown – after 1 inning against Tampa and 1 out in the playoffs? He’s at least as likely to blow up as to get a 1-2-3 inning

  55. ariel October 8th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Cashman and Girardi will have some very difficult decisions to make in the off-season. Posada’s defensive skills and his attitude appear to diminish exponentially with each passing game…last night his nonchalance on the second PB leading to a run, was quite properly called into question by Flaherty on the post-game, just as he has done on several occasions during the season. No other “homer” in the booth during the season or on the post-game has done that, letting Jorge’s transgressions and occasional half-baked attitude slide. Flash does his job; lest not forget, The Big Unit made it quite clear he preferred that Flash be his catcher over Jorge during his time in Pinstripes.

    What may well happen is that Matsui will not be re-signed and Jorge gradually moved into the full-time DH position during the remaining two years of his contract. At the age of 38, he simply doesn’t have it any more at the defensive end. It’s really no different than the situation with Bernie who truly believed he could continue to cut it in center field when it was evident to even the casual observer that he was done. Jorge can still hit, however, so there will be a place for him.

  56. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Robertson absolutely has earned the later innings. Mark, I disagree with you – let Joba handle the 6th.

  57. MikeBoston October 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Rishi, great info on Mo (I was at that game 6 ALCS in 2000 against the M’s BTW)
    I saw this on MLB TV last night, he’s simply the best when it counts the most, no debate:
    Mo’s Post Season ERA is .75 in 118 innings in front of Kofax .95 and Mathewson 1.06, both of whom threw less than half the amount of innings that Mo did. You’re talking about two of the greatest pitchers (maybe literally 1,2 or 2,3 with Cy Young himself in there) of all time and he’s out in front by a good margin with many more innings on both.

  58. Imback October 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    A team that won’t die & a guy with a pie.
    Murderers row and a slow Latino ( works for both)

  59. Tom in N.J. October 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Not Murderer’s Row because of Joe?

  60. Nick in SF October 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Anti – Mussina, is that you?

  61. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    LOL Francesca trying to justify his criticism of CC’s signing by saying it wasn’t an overwhelming performance. WTH cares? The guy pitched very well and came up huge…..

    Generation Trey was Joel Sherman’s thing – and it never made sense. It’s stupid.

  62. Hokiehill October 8th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    I’ll just use my strategy of saying “oh great, here’s an out” every time Molina comes to bat…anytime a poor hitter on a Yankees squad gets a clutch hit, I have uttered those words.

  63. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    I think if the Yankees go on to the next round(s), the way the bullpen arms are used will change. Don’t forget, this series there’s the luxury of the days off so that basically all the arms are available for every game. I don’t know how it shakes out in the later rounds.

    Also, it will depend on the effectiveness of those arms that are used, and/or the number of pitches thrown. If Phil had gotten Cabrera and Mauer on fewer pitches, chances are Coke and Chamberlain don’t get into that game at all.

    The beauty of this bullpen is that it is enhanced by Chamberlain, but there are a few combinations that can do the job. Lots of options. Lots of options.

  64. ADam October 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Don’t know if I can wait 25 hours for the next game….

  65. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Twinkies making excuses already – all the players saying they hit a wall.

  66. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    after the 3rd inning, that is

  67. Jones October 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Ariel,

    You along with others act like he did horrible.
    Yeah, had miscue, but tell me what professional doesn’t?
    He’s not a catcher in his 20s, but he’s still capable of catching.

    I’m starting to think people will find anything to place on him.
    Maybe today he’ll tie his cleats the wrong way.

  68. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Hokiehill -

    Sounds like a plan. :)

  69. betsy October 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    LOL Hmm, yes, so Mike says the Twins have a major excuse….and then he didn’t even bother watching the post-game because it was a “matter-of-fact” win. That’s a Yankee fan?

  70. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    betsy -

    I guess you could call CC a wall. :)

  71. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    betsy -

    And if the Yankees had said they were tired under the same circumstances? He would have said what Jeter said last night – this is the playoffs, no such thing as tired. He’s such an idiot. Why do you listen?

    I’m not convinced he’s a Yankee fan at all. If he is, he’s a spoiled bratty one that will never be happy. Not if they went 173-0. He’d find something to complain about.

  72. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Betsy- Are you sure Joel made that up. I thought it was Michael Kay.

    I can’t stand Mike F. He pretends to be a Yankee fan but rips them to no end. It was a W, it was dominating enough to hold them to 2 runs! It wasn’t like he was getting smacked all over the place, some of the hits found holes, or shoes :lol: . He didn’t need to go out and strike out 20 to win. He did enough. Save the dominating stuff for the ALCS.

  73. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    I don’t understand the tired excuse. As someone pointed out they were off Monday. Their game was at 5pm on Tuesday. They landed in NY at 3am. Isn’t that how the Yankees always have it? I don’t hear them complain?! It is the playoffs deal with it or go home!

  74. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    I would take that kind of “not dominant” performance from CC in every playoff game he starts. Francessa personally not being satisfied is just a way for him to justify the fact that he was opposed to them signing Sabathia, which remains a completely asinine stance. But that’s what you get from someone as stubborn and someone so lacking in common sense and insight as fat Mike.

  75. Don October 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Twins also said the ballpark wasn’t nearly as loud as the past one was. Backed up wuith Kay and Cone said.

  76. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    As the capt. stated last night, “You don’t get tired in the playoffs.”

  77. JasonR October 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    I’m not a Joba to the bullpen guy, and I think the kid deserves every chance possible to succeed as a starter, but it’s undeniable he has a different demeanor coming out of the pen. He looked like a pitbull last night.

  78. Wes October 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Murderer’s row,
    with Molina, whoa

    that was corny, but I figured I’d give it a shot :)

  79. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Andrew just like he was probably thrilled that Joba stunk it up as a starter down the stretch so he can justify his stance that Joba belongs in the pen.

  80. upstate kate October 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Doreen
    that CC comment was good :)

    Posada/CC had 2 pitches that got away. Yeah, that is not good, but it doesn’t mean Posada was terrible. He has been better this year at throwing out runners too.

  81. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Francesa is a legend in his own mind. You don’t have to tell him how great he is. He knows.

  82. Emo October 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    The matchup yesterday was made for us. Our ace against a guy who had no business starting a playoff game. A tired Twins team that couldn’t catch their breath.

    Only going to get tougher from here. Blackburn, Pavano, and Baker are not bad pitchers. I can understand guys like Francessa not getting giddy yet. We won game 1 in 02, 05, and 06 too and lost the series.

  83. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    I remember how he used to trash that studio.

  84. S.A.--Now the real fun begins October 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    What is this with Franceser? A walk down memory lane? :P

  85. Click Click October 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    If you guys want Yankee cheerleading, then listen to Kay at 2 PM.

    Francessa didn’t become the #1 rated sports show in the country for 20 straight years because of his homerism.

  86. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    fran knows all,cc wasn’t as good as on paper.

  87. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4540423

    So now the mother will turn around and sell it to Steiner Sports. Like it means anything to her?! Only $$$

  88. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    click click

    you’re right, maddog had nothing to do with it.

  89. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Mike has some pretty high standards if he thinks CC was not dominant last night. Sure he was not his best but he still pitched great. 6.2 innings 1 ER, 8 SO, 1 BB. It is hard to argue with those stats. Not to mention Tschidia (or however you spell his name) is one of the biggest hitters umps in the league and he squeezed CC in some really crucial spots last night.

  90. Alex October 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    AJ better not be defiant in his press conference today when he is asked about the Molina/Posada, it will only make things worse.

    The media and a lot of the fans are going to blame him regardless, he needs to accept that and stay calm.

  91. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    But it’s 09 now. It’s a new day. And enjoying the win is not getting giddy. I bet if you did a poll, most Yankees fans are cautiously optimistic. And actually, their starter last night did a very good job. Liriano gave up the bomb to Matsui.

  92. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    “Twins also said the ballpark wasn’t nearly as loud as the past one was. Backed up wuith Kay and Cone said.”

    Sounded plenty loud when the moment dictated it, like on 2 strike pitches or on run-scoring plays (notably, Jeter’s HR and Swisher’s double). Keep in mind that new stadiums are all more spread out and open than ones built prior to the new millennium, so the loudness might not be as right-on-top-of-you as it was in the original house. That said I don’t buy that it’s somehow an easier place to play for opposing teams, especially considering the fact that these are still NY fans attending the games.

  93. Pel October 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    >Twins also said the ballpark wasn’t nearly as loud as the
    >past one was. Backed up wuith Kay and Cone said.

    Yankees said the opposite.

    Who has the cognitive bias? Both?

  94. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Very cute article on Sterling. There is even a reference to “writers sending in suggestions like ‘Hinske with your best shot’”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

  95. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    No, he became #1 because he had no competition. And, much as I don’t like either one, he and Mad Dog as a team had some entertainment value. Francesa alone? Not so much.

  96. timo October 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    MikeBoston
    October 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
    Rishi, great info on Mo (I was at that game 6 ALCS in 2000 against the M’s BTW)
    I saw this on MLB TV last night, he’s simply the best when it counts the most, no debate:
    Mo’s Post Season ERA is .75 in 118 innings in front of Kofax .95 and Mathewson 1.06, both of whom threw less than half the amount of innings that Mo did. You’re talking about two of the greatest pitchers (maybe literally 1,2 or 2,3 with Cy Young himself in there) of all time and he’s out in front by a good margin with many more innings on both.
    ______________________________________________________

    You can’t fairly compare a closer’s ERA to a starter’s. As great as Mo has been, nothing he has done in the postseason is as impressive as what Koufax did in the ’65 WS to beat the Twins.

    Also gives me an excuse to write the words “beat the Twins.”

  97. pat October 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Generation Trey was a knock-off on the Generation K nickname given to the young Mets pitchers in the 90′s.

  98. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    And btw this tired excuse is ridiculous. Teams play games the same day after getting in at 3 am all season long, and suddenly because its the playoffs they are tired? You would think it would be the opposite. No team complains during the season about not getting enough sleep. What a joke. Oh and if you are going to complain about being tired maybe you should not have been partying with beer and champagne after the game.

  99. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    at first glance it looks like aj is a diva but he and girardi are handling it right.

    girardi, as mgr makes the final call. as an ex-catcher he knows posada is on the way down as a catcher. this move reflects his feelings for now and the next 2 years on his contract.

  100. Click Click October 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    mick,

    Then why is Francessa still #1 rated while Mad Dog has fallen off the face of the earth?

    His ratings are actually higher post-dog than with dog.

  101. m October 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Gardenhire was good. When asked if exhaustion was an excuse he quipped something about CC. (tipping his cap)

    And for the Twins players to say that is not an excuse, it’s a fact. They had to play their hearts out to even get to 3 back with 4 to play. And then to force a playoff? And then win a playoff in 12 innings? And then get in late? And deal with the press and other pregame stuff without taking a breath? They were riding on momentum until Jeter’s homerun. And then after that, reality set in.

    Nothing wrong with what they’re saying. And I’m sure they’d rather have a horse in this race than be in the Tigers position.

    I expect them to compete, though, until the very end. But the Yankees don’t want a walkover because whomever they face in the ALCS (knock on wood) won’t be as easy.

  102. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    I have to give a serious shout out to Jason Kubel, Denard Span, Justin Mourneau, Michael Cuddyer, Delmon Young, and Orlando Cabrera. I played Fantasy Baseball for the first time in my life and being a total novice drafted bass-ackwards. Who knew you didn’t draft pitchers til the end? Well okay, it was pretty cool have Mariano as my closer. :) Anyway, throughout the season I made a lot of moves and somehow ended up with position players mainly made up of Twins! Justin Mourneau was an early draft pick but the rest came later. I really grew attached to my players and that was the team that got me from 10th place (out of 10) for most of the season, to a 4th place finish. Thank you guys, you really rocked the season for me.

    :)

  103. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    And btw this tired excuse is ridiculous. Teams play games the same day after getting in at 3 am all season long, and suddenly because its the playoffs they are tired? You would think it would be the opposite. No team complains during the season about not getting enough sleep. What a joke. Oh and if you are going to complain about being tired maybe you should not have been partying with beer and champagne after the game.
    ***

    I just going to add that. Maybe they shouldn’t have drank so much after the game was over. No excuses in the playoffs. You deal with it.

  104. Jones October 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Generation Trey

    Weren’t they also called the “3 Amigos?” I thought I saw in an interview in the past? At least 2 out of 3 are still here. Hopefully # 3, will have a good comeback next year, after that surgery.

  105. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Erica -

    Thanks for that link. Very cute.

  106. m October 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    AJ said he’s said “why, why, why” a handful of times over the years. Nothing to do with Jorge. Those looking for controversy, look under another rock.

  107. Jakke October 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    What’s sadder?

    That people actually listen to Francessa?

    or

    That people who claim to hate Francessa listen to him everyday at 1, transcribe everything he says, and get riled up by it?

  108. mick October 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    click click

    where is the competition?

    Kay gives him a run for his money. in drive time he and kay are all there is.

    kay and his group are better at times than mike. not as annoying as he can be doing the games.

  109. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    No, Swisher wanted to know what radio broadcaster John Sterling would say when he hit his first home run.

    It turned out the dinger was “Swishilicious!” in Sterling-speak—the groaner-gems that could only come from a man who’s as much a part of New York summers as Coney Island.
    ****

    This article is already wrong. It was “jolly old saint Nick” I was at Foley’s when Nick was there they were talking about it. He said what was the homerun call? I told him, he shook his head and said it had to be changed, someone came up with Swishilcious and he said he liked it. Nick must have gone to him, cause right after it, it was changed.

  110. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who trusts Joe Girardi October 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Not sure any of the participants are here now, but I will still unveil the postseason chart. I am tragically compromised when it comes to setting up charts and graphs and figuring out a way to get them published. I finally managed to do it, with a little help from a friend who let me use her account. Anyway, here it is.

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON2.pdf

    I will post it from time to time when I see posters here who are on it. What I want most is for people to be sure I got their numbers right – not like I evr scerewed up numbers before, right?

    :)

  111. MikeBoston October 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Good point Timo, starters have to face lineups 3 and sometimes 4 times in one game. That being said they didn’t have closers back in those days so the modern hitters get to see the same closers multiple times in a series, it’s almost the same thing but not exactly.

    I just love putting Mo’s stats in front of guys like Kofax and co….

  112. Doreen October 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    jennifer -

    I knew it was wrong! I remember you telling that story early in teh season (was it really that long ago??)

  113. m October 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    ohh, just saw something at DP’s. Charlie Sheen said he was going in to do a one-day shoot for Wall Street II. Said his character just gets out of prison.

  114. m October 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Doreen,

    Next thread….your cue to find espnews…

  115. Erica - always OPPC October 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    :arrow:

  116. jennifer October 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Doreen- I’ll have to try to find his email address and correct him. I remember the look on Nick’s face when I told him Jolly Old Saint Nick. John is nuts, we have to fix that.

  117. MR.OCTOBER October 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    MURDERERS ROW PLUS JO (PRONOUNCED HOE)

  118. BD October 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Wait a minute. Sheen’s character is supposed to have been in prison for 20 years? How is that possible? Didn’t he get some kind of deal for testifying against Gordon Gekko?

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