Ronan Tynan removed from singing duties
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Ronan Tynan, the Irish tenor who often sings (a very, very long version of) “God Bless America” during the seventh-inning stretch at Yankee Stadium, will not appear tonight after it was reported that he made an anti-Semitic joke to a potential tenant in his Manhattan apartment building.
According to the New York Daily News story, Tynan ran into a real estate agent showing a client an apartment in his building. When the agent joked to Tynan that he shouldn’t worry because the client wasn’t a Red Sox fan, Tynan responded, “I don’t care about that as long as they are not Jewish.”
Tynan has since apologized – he told WNBC, “I would never want to hurt anybody’s feelings. It was stupid of me to be so callous” – but still had his appearance at Game 1 tonight canceled by the Yankees.
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Chad Jennings
Josh Thomson
Such is what happens when you engage your mouth before your brain.
Hard to say if he was joking, but he isn’t Letterman, so he can’t get away with things like this.
open mouth, insert foot
What Letterman did and what Tynan said are vastly different.
Even if it’s a joke, it is kind of crossing the line, people are still really sensitive about race/religion/gender/etc/ discrimination, and rightfully so.
I’ve definitely lost my respect for him.
big deal. over sensitive to stupid remarks and blissfully ignoring real problems. What a great society.
Great. Now we’re stuck with a grainy recording of Kate Smith until I die. I’m so glad we’re politically correct.
Letterman made a joke about Alex having sex with Palin’s young daughter. He has made tons of comments over the years that are offensive and stupid. Add to that the whole sexual issue that is coming out now, and yet he is still working boggles the mind.
Tynan made one stupid remark, Letterman’s can fill a book.
Nice knowin’ you Ronan. There’s no way he’ll be back at NYS.
I have no tolerance for religious hatred, so I’m pleased to know that Tynan’s ugliness has been found out and that the yanks have acted appropriately.
I just find it hard to believe that, over all the years he’s been involved, Tynan’s ugliness hadn’t ever been uncovered before.
Quite the apology, by the way…..”It was stupid of me to be so callous…” ???????????
Note to the schmuck: callousness means insensitivity. You didn’t display insensitivity. You displayed hatred. Big difference.
VC 11, you’re damn right. If I were running a company, I wouldn’t want this man to represent it. There’s nothing else to it.
Good, never liked his rendition anyway. I sympathize somewhat with public figures whose every casual remark is posted all over the internet within seconds of its utterance, but it’s hard to imagine why someone would make that comment unless he really is a bigot.
This goes to show you how Europe has become a hotbed of antisemitism. Most of us would not ever have this thought enter our heads in a million years, but it’s become more and more acceptable across the pond in recent years, although I did not think Ireland was included in this attitude. Disgusting.
Good for the Yankees for taking immediate action. There will be many Jewish fans–including Ms. Kate Hudson—who will be watching the game tonight who would have been highly offended by this jerk’s role at the game.
Jake
Religious hatred? Where do you get that from? His lame stupid joke?
Your attitude is just as destructifve as bigotry, always ready to flare into anger over any perceived injustice. Two sides of the same nasty coin.
I guess we will see if the curse of Ronan Tynan will die this postseason. Every since 2001, the Yankees have been running Ronan out there to sing “God Bless America”. Coincidence, I don’t think so. Also, how did Ronan score a 2000 championship ring ?
Making stupid remarks and thinking it’s funny is a real problem. Stupid remarks are just as harmful as a fist. So is ignoring them.
How about they just put the whole tradition to rest. 9/11 was 8 years ago one shouldn’t mourn forever, it’s not healthy.
What did he say that was so wrong?
Thank goodness! Please, Yankees, now’s your chance to change it up a bit!
I hated Ronan’s version anyway. I know he’s been through a lot (prior to his moronic statement) but that’s no excuse. Maybe John Henry can hire him. Good Riddance!
M, I disagree…. CC is a better pitcher than Lackey. Still, Lackey is perfectly capable of pitching a great game and CC has bad #s against the Angels…. These matchup things are kind of silly, to be honest. Over the course of a long season, we know who’s better, but that doesn’t mean it will play out like that during a short series.
Josh,
This is your third try at a picture, and you haven’t found a decent one yet. Are you only photos old DMV shots?
great voice, his version gives ya chills, but unfortunate comments.
Vrsce, I’m so glad you can determine that it was a joke…..give me a break.
Consider the Yankees a single “fan” of Ronan’s. They are no longer a fan of his, so they no longer wish to have him sing over their house.
That’s it people. The Yankees are doing what they feel is right. They have that freedom.
The guy sounds pretty funny, I should hire him as a writer.
Ugh Ronan, why?! When he sings it’s always a special night.
just get rid of that lousy song already. it was much better though when ronan sang it than when kate smith barfs it out. I assume he was probably joking and could care less as a jew. who says that?
Mr. Tynan, meet Mr. Gibson
Aba is a tool. Letterman is a comedian.
Of course the guy is going to say he’s joking – what’s he going to say, that he meant it? Was Jimmy the Greek joking? Was Al Campanis joking? Sometimes when you say stupid things, you have to pay the price?
betsy
And you are the judge of how bad it is? in another life I can see you dressed in brown and shrieking another kind of attack. The point being, there ois no need to go overboard.
Well, he sounds like my kinda guy!
All things considered, who really gives a crap?
really?? going to give ronan the boot for that?
i’m not going lie….i thought it was a solid joke.
It’s just a silly jewish joke. Big deal…
It didn’t imply hatred or malice, it was just a zinger.
Ever watch Curb Your Enthusiasm?? Larry David makes jokes about gentiles and jews on a regular basis.
Religious prejudice and racial prejudice will never go away until people are able to laugh about their differences and not react by being so offended.
Sure, theres things that people say that are completely inappropriate. I don’t think Ronan’s comments fall into that category though.
Thank goodness the Steinbrenners aren’t Jewish. ooops.
I wish we could get rid of Kate Smith that easily.
This subject needs to be removed. All it’s done is pull out the jerks who think they actually have a sense of humor. Guess what? You don’t.
Disappointed that there hasn’t been any coverage of the ticket fiasco this morning on TM and yankees.com…
anyone have more information as to what on earth happened?
Some sources say they only put 2 rows in each section up for sale, some say there just weren’t enough tickets..
needless to say, if there are more tickets available tomorrow morning, that’s crap.. To have season tickets or partial season tickets and get shafted because they didn’t provide sufficient enough of seats, what’s the point in having the privilage of being a season ticket holder?
Maybe cherry picking my games next season, maybe not.
Needless to say, i’m not pleased.
That really sucks. No Ronan is terrible.
Ok, I’ve had enough of them already. First, Mike is scared to death because the Yankees didn’t hit Pavano or Blackburn. Now, AJ pitched badly against the Twins and Alex is not out of the woods because he hit a couple of HRs.
Big deal. He just said what a lot of people think.
Ronan, call me. You’d be perfect for the soundtrack in my next picture.
Whatever, Vrsce….I guess in your world, everyone can say whatever they want to without repercussions.
Here’s some people who ARE performing at a baseball game this postseason…. the cast of “Glee”.. YAY!!!!!
If you have never seen the show on Fox it’s pretty amazing.
They will be performing before Game 3 of the World Series (in the NL park)
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009.....ld-series/
He was bad luck anyway.
Get Jay Z to sing it.
Ut33
October 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
“This goes to show you how Europe has become a hotbed of antisemitism.”
Just the other day I was having a business-related dinner with a group of Europeans I didn’t know well. I made a neutral comment about a Jewish neighborhood in Queens and was taken aback when it prompted some snide remarks and all-around snickering about Jewish people. I happen to be ethnically half Jewish, but most people don’t know that, so I’m sometimes surprised and disgusted at the things people say when they think they’re among friends.
GB, I’m done with the topic – this is bringing out the worst in people. I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading. However, I guess I should say that I’m not surprised.
Ever watch Curb Your Enthusiasm?? Larry David makes jokes about gentiles and jews on a regular basis.
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It’s one thing for a Jew to make fun of a fellow Jew, just like a fat person can make fun of their own weight or a family member can say mean things about another family member. But let an outsider say the same thing, and you’ve got trouble. Anyone one with any common sense whatsoever knows that. How can anyone defend this guy? I’m not Jewish, but please, it’s pretty obvious worldwide the hate that Jews face. You don’t need to go to Iran to find it. Let’s please keep it out of the U.S.
There needs to be some moderation on the board now, this is getting out of hand.
I guarantee the posters making light of the situation aren’t even Jewish. I’m pretty thickskinned and don’t get offended easily, but as someone who is Jewish, I think Ronan crossed the line.
“Big deal. He just said what a lot of people think”
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this right here.
Ut33, I lived in Europe for four months in 2007 and did not encounter any anti-Semitism where I went. (UK, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and the Netherlands).
Most of Europe is extremely secular–much more than the US. the minorities are just rather vocal.
Thank God…Tynan was beyond “getting old”.
Sometimes you need to move on…too bad it took an anti-semitic joke to nudge the Yankees into finally doing so.
Honestly, I can do without this anyway.
In recent years it seemed like whenever Tynan launched into God Bless America and if the Yankees were losing in the 7th, I wanted to kill myself.
Abdababdaserser,
David Letterman is a professional comedian. He gets paid to make people laugh, and is obviously quite successful at it. He tells his jokes in the context of a television show. He has never, nor likely would ever, made a derogatory joke that had to do with someone else’s race or religion. If David Letterman was heard to say the exact thing that Tynan did, in a similar setting, he would get just as much flak for it, and he would deserve it. It’s obviously quite a different thing. Tynan did not simply make a “stupid remark”. To suggest it’s as simple as that is to be an apologist for hateful behavior. Whether he meant it as a joke or not, it should come as no surprise to him that the great Nw York Yankee organization will have nothing to do with such ignorance. Remember that as you watch the game tonight. The Yankees are not on your side, if you are an apologist for Ronan Tynan.
Mike and the Mad Dog are saying Saturday’s game would be moved to Sunday at 4PM. But how? Fox has a football game on then.
Can we talk about the game now?
“This goes to show you how Europe has become a hotbed of antisemitism. ”
Ever heard of the holocaust? It’s BEEN the hotbed.
Fact is, he’s not a big enough celebrity that this should be a particularly big deal. He’s just another moderately famous person who felt and said something stupid.
We really need to get this game underway. The natives are getting restless.
oh for the people who say he crossed the line….get off your high horses….he made a zinger. Thats it.
people take things way too serious.
the guy’s an idiot for saying it and is getting what he deserves, but at the same time, to think that someone has actually been harmed by hearing that is disturbing to me. If something as little as a dumb off-hand comment is enough to make you gasp, you need to adjust yourself a bit IMO. I learned this lesson as a kid…it goes something like “sticks and stones…”
Talk about making a big deal out of nothing…. Everyone is so sensitive and PC these days you can’t even joke around. Its sad more than anything else. People just need something to look down upon and complain about.
On another note, that last hour on WFAN made me remember how much I loved M+MD and how awful Francesa is when he’s on his own. Hopefully Sirius goes out of business and Dog goes back to the Fan.
betsy
October 16th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
GB, I’m done with the topic – this is bringing out the worst in people. I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading. However, I guess I should say that I’m not surprised.
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The sad part is that some of these idiots are regulars on here and don’t have the guts to use their normal SNs. The others are just trolling maggots.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/CLS2.pdf
Join up if you want to.
Catch you later.
Ya, racial/ethnic slurs have no place on a blog about baseball or anywhere for that matter.
its just not necessary…keep your ignorant opinions to yourself.
No glass houses here…..Stupid comment, poos taste, many judges’s here with rocks in their hands…..
“Letterman is a comedian.”
Doesn’t mean everything he says is funny and not offensive. If he substituted Malia Obama for Bristol Palin, the reaction and outcome would have been very different.
hate to break this to folks…but this is 2009. this is not 1941. The war is over!
Hokiehill
October 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
the guy’s an idiot for saying it and is getting what he deserves, but at the same time, to think that someone has actually been harmed by hearing that is disturbing to me. If something as little as a dumb off-hand comment is enough to make you gasp, you need to adjust yourself a bit IMO. I learned this lesson as a kid…it goes something like “sticks and stones…”
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Tell the people of Skokie, Illinois that words don’t hurt.
Sam, Chad, Josh, any chance at a new thread soon?
I’ll even take an update on the weather at this point!
Moderation……
Sam, Josh, Chad… anyone??? Help out here
good riddance…now just can the entire 7th inning stretch ceremony and stick to baseball
Kate Smith, dog the bounty hunter and Kramer from seinfeld were just seen at a klan rally! NO MORE GBA!
god bless!
5 hours and 48 minutes until Game 1!!!!
Geez, you can even tell a few anti-semitic jokes these day. What’s the world coming to?
Why are people concerned with what others have to say, especially strangers? If we cared less about comments that are in poor taste, would we not be better off?
Just let it go, it matters not.
green beret,
Ya, there is such a thing as oversensitivity, but its case dependent.
Know your audience or keep your trap shut. Even if people are “joking”, you have to be hyper-careful about this stuff.
I’m psyched for Game 1. The wait has been too long. I’m a bit worried about the weather.
short of Ronan murdering someone in cold blood….he should be singing tonight.
sticks and stones people…sticks and stones.
Erica
I’m domne with GLEE after the remarks made about ALEX. jk
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So what did the real Estate Agent do? Run to The Daily News? Gimme a break.
was my comment removed?? if so, why?
Listen, someone who has feelings against Jewish people can not sing such a song as God Bless America. as simple as that.
nevermind…these pages load oddly
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news.....56232.html
nbc new york:
The Yankees reached out to Tynan and Gold-von Simson to confirm the story and canceled Tynan’s appearance at Friday’s night league championship opener.
Tynan then called Gold-von Simson immediately to apologize and has agreed to make a donation to the NYU pediatric center where she works, Rubenstein said.
“A lot of my friends are Jewish,” said Tynan. “It’s something misfortunate, I was too stupid with my mouth.”
Gold-von Simson said she accepted the Irishman’s mea culpa.
“Absolutely,” she said. “It was a sincere apology.”
The incident appears to be an ugly stain on life celebrated as an inspiration. His legs were amputated in his twenties due to a childhood disability but he went on to become a medical doctor, international recording star and motivational speaker, according to his website.
Tynan rose to great fame in New York after 9/11 performing at many benefits and memorials for fallen members of the NYPD and FDNY. His performance at the Yankee games in those dark months cemented his legend.
Is Dog on with Mike?
ABK….explain…What does a song about a fictitious character have anything to do with baseball to begin with?
I used to be in a barbershop quartet in Skokie, Illinois. The baritone was this guy named Kip Diskin, big fat guy, I mean, like, orca fat. He was so stressed in the morning…
“was my comment removed?? if so, why?”
mac daddy-
if they read your comments about jeter in the past series, it might have been for general stupidity.
The Usual Suspects
“I hate Illinois Nazis”
I think everyone is missing the point. He is certainly no stand-up, but he was kidding. The guy is Irish Catholic and a Yankee Fan. The realtor says a joke about the customer being a red sox fan (sox vs. yanks) he joked about them not being jewish (catholic vs. jewish). Appropriate…..maybe not. Funny…..no. But either way I get it. I get his attempt at humor. So he f’d up….at least he wasn’t being hateful, he was sadly trying to be funny. And that fact alone actually makes it funny. In another time when the media didn’t force PC bulls**t on us nobody would have cared. People don’t think for themselves anymore. They let the media take a stance and they jump on board or reject it, but certainly never form their own opinion. Here’s my opinion…..lighten up….your all taking yourselves way to seriously. In one way or another we all have faults or shortcomings in someone else’s eyes. Something we say or do can just as easily be criticized…..god forbid you have a bit of fame, then we try to take away your livelihood. I go to work, come home and catch the game then pass out. I also happen to love a good steak and wear leather shoes. So I suppose I’ll see you in the morning PETA protesting against me at my job…….maybe I should start looking for a new one now!
Lets see how much he hates jews when his fat a** has a heart attack and goes to a jewish cardiologist. Or when he signs his new contract…LOL. What a retard.
Tin Cup is in the house
It’s time to cancel GBA all together.
is ronan going to sing tomorrow?
is just a 1 game thing?
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
October 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Is Dog on with Mike?
Yes and it has been some of the best radio, during this time slot, in a long time.
Ronan’s latest hit single, “God Bless America, except for the Jews” can now purchased at my web site
YO Ronan! I’m real happy for ya and Ima let you finish, but Mel Gibson had the best anti-semitic comment of all time!
funny chat with bucky dent.
They got it going up, so at first glance it looks like the, “man I don’t know” is response to a query about any bitterness towards the Yankees for getting fired.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chats
Vader
October 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
October 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Is Dog on with Mike?
Yes and it has been some of the best radio, during this time slot, in a long time.
Darn I missed it – hope they Post it.
Anything interesting said?
Rich – Good call.
If im the yanks, I tell him he can sing on the condition that he wears a yarmulke and tallis
Hey, anybody want to watch the game with me tonight? I’ve got nothing else going on.
HokieHill,
Are you just testing people’s threshold?
Brian Bruney-
maybe you should hang out with Tynan and blame the Jews.
Hey hov (and everyone else who thinks this is OK),
Since when is it OK to make a joke about how much you hate Jews? I was raised Catholic, and no one ever even made jokes about Protestants, not to mention Jews.
I love the ridiculous argument that we can’t make jokes anymore. Are you kidding? We make jokes about EVERYTHING today. Almost nothing is taboo. We’ve never had fewer taboos. But we’ve decided that there are a few topics like bigotry where the line between an innocent joke and a malicious putdown is so small that you’d better be damn sure you’re not spreading hate before you speak. And he didn’t do that here. In fact, it sounds like he outed himself as an anti-semite. I’m sure when he said it he never imagined that they would tell others and it would become a news story. But that’s the point: the real problem is not his callousness, but his bigotry.
To the “sticks and stones” people… I’m going to go ahead and guess that none of you are black.
Did he forget the Steinbrenner’s are Jewish?
Out of the hearts abundance,the mouth speaks!
Open mouth and in go foot~itis
This was bigotry on display.
Time for a new post guys..
“HokieHill,
Are you just testing people’s threshold?”
Because of the Verbal Kent thing?
Or the weather thing?
Abk is right anyone who hates jewish people can’t sing a song to god, god is our father & when u say somthing against his children he won’t listen to your songs, to all of u who r board about this topic I guess u r also jew haters so pls stay away from the yanks cuz when god will punish u he shouldn punish the yanks too!!!
Yikes. Time for a new thread. I’m begging you!
ML – You can’t spread hate. People choose to hate.
I think there should be no “taboos” and the dead seriousness in which you stated your last post should go away. We would all be better off.
I can’t stand thin-skinned people, and it makes sports that much less enjoyable for me.
If the Yankees don’t reverse their PC initiative, I’m done.
Well Jay….that was terrifying.
Erin-
We need some muppet power
sick of that guy anyway
I never really liked Tynan so I don’t care at all. Mediocre voice, weird looking dude he should have been gone a long time ago.
he didn’t say he wanted all the jews killed.
quit overreacting
Erica-it’s definitely time for the muppets!
Why is it that Jews like to watch pornos in reverse?
They like the part when the hooker gives the money back.
Mbd we all know u r a self hated jew…
Glenn are you gonna make a fool out of yourself crying ,when it’s played?
I heard you,rush,and hannity wrote the hate filled words,as your patriotic duty!
M
that was a funny chat w/ Bucky, better once I read it from bottom to top so it made sense.
Oh wow he made a Jewish joke. If it was a snide about Gentiles then it would go unnoticed but because a bunch of Jews run the Yankees it turns into a big deal.
LAME
“Jimmy
To the “sticks and stones” people… I’m going to go ahead and guess that none of you are black.”
I think I’m the “sticks and stones” person so I’ll answer. No, I’m not black…but I don’t get offended when someone calls me a cracker or honkey or any other ridiculous word used to “offend” white people. Some idiot could mouth off all he wants to with anti-white comments and he’ll probably get fired and would deserve it (unless his last name was Sharpton or Jackson) and I could care less. Because stupid comments say more about the mouth they come out of than the person they’re directed at…if I let every stupid thing someone said to or about me get under my skin I would be a miserable person…
Darn I missed it – hope they Post it.
Anything interesting said?
No…just Mad Dog being Mad Dog with a lot of catching up…but when they went to Mr. Met, Chris got a few good jabs in…he had me laughing a few times.
I don’t dig labels.
Erin-
So.. who is your favorite muppet?
Isn’t it ironic that the Lohud team doesn’t post a new thread every 15 minutes when the people are actually begging for one???
Terry #1… The Yankees will not reverse the policies that you sarcastically call a “PC Initiative”. So pack your bags. Don’t watch the game tonight. Stop posting here… whatever “I’m done” means. Be happy with your inconsequential protest and the rest of us will enjoy watching the Yankees, even more proud that the organization won’t stand for such ugliness.
Congratulations, this thread has just been awarded the Nobel Blog Prize!
Erica: for the Sesame Street muppets it’s Bert and Ernie it’s impossible for me to choose between them
and for the regular muppets I’ve always had a soft spot for Gonzo, with Fozzie being a close second.
There’s nothing pc about accepting blatant bigotry,.It’s not polite conversation.
Thank GOD! If only so I don’t have to watch his big Sloth from Goonies looking head march out onto the field to sing.
Nick in SF
October 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Congratulations, this thread has just been awarded the Nobel Blog Prize!
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Nick, would you like my prized football picks for the week so you can do the opposite?
Isn’t it ironic that the Lohud team doesn’t post a new thread every 15 minutes when the people are actually begging for one???
Maybe someone is doing a sociological study
And so ends the career of Mr Ronin Tynan at Yankees Stadium. Not only does he offended the Jewish community, but he says he doesn’t care if his tenant is a Red Sox fan. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb move. From a guy who is synonymous with the healing after 9/11 and all that is wrong with the world.
I’d be surprised if he is ever let back.
Erica-I fogot to ask, who’s your favorite Muppet?
Nick in SF
October 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Congratulations, this thread has just been awarded the Nobel Blog Prize!
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LOL!!
Thank you Yankees for making the correct decision!!
i just hope we win game 1
takes a ton of pressure off
cc has to get nasty
Hey all – I have a ticket for tonights game in section 131 if anyone is interested. Can’t make it due to a last minute thing, and looking to get rid of it.
Drop me a note if interested!
Erin
October 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Erica: for the Sesame Street muppets it’s Bert and Ernie it’s impossible for me to choose between them and for the regular muppets I’ve always had a soft spot for Gonzo, with Fozzie being a close second.
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When I was really little my favorite was Bert. I had a Bert doll I loved and would go to sleep every night rubbing his unibrow. LOL. Everything changed one awful night when I was 3 and I accidentally left Bert in Waldbaums for the night. I was hystercial crying the whole night and my mother couldn’t calm me down. Finally she gave me my Ernie doll and told me he was even better.
I got Bert back first thing the next morning, but I was so traumatized from losing Bert that I stuck with Ernie ever since. But yes, they are my faves too.
I like Fozzie as well. Wocka Wocka Wocka
DB happy to see you. I need your picks for the CLS.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/CLS2.pdf
Im italian we are constantly mocked in the media in public everyone implies being italian and being in the mob go hand in hand this is rediculous. Some people are such wimps! Knock off the cry baby antics and let the man sing.
I understand that Tynan has had a tough life and achieved some great things but his ‘joke’ is nothing more than an slip of the way he truly feels.
If any other minority was substituted it would provide the same insight into his personal feelings.
And his ‘apology’ is as hollow as it could possibly be.
Good for the Yankees, they did the right thing and it has nothing to do with Randy Levine and everything to do with a large segment of their fan base.
For those of you who don’t understand, I feel sorry for you, maybe sometime in your lives you will figure it out.
WEIRD TIDBIT Jimi Hendrix mothers name is Lucille Hendrix Jeter.
wow, we still can not mention Noooo Maaaas. orrrg on this , proper spelling is still blocked out by p abe
Erin October 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Erica: for the Sesame Street muppets it’s Bert and Ernie
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It bothers me that Bert and Ernie sleep in the same bed. It’s just not christian.
Glenn Beck-
They don’t. They each have a twin bed. Don’t know what Sesame Street you were watching
So much for the luck of the Irish thanks alot NYC!!! Im guessing not to many of you ever heard Sinatra speak not that he was prejiduce but uced race and religion for humor so Im guessing you guys dont want to hear New York New York anymore right? GROW UP!!!
whoever Gilbert Gottfried is, that was a great joke
hey there actually are some affordable tix tonight if anyone wants to freeze their butts off. 48 bucks for section 418 on yankees.com
Wow this BS….He was the BEST…no 1 can take a joke anymore, what is wrong with this country
You know what offends me? Bad nationalistic songs.
Anyone here been to Jackie Mason’s act? he must be a huge jew hater haha this is rediculous
Erica, I’m not sure if I want your picks or not…will I lure myself into counter-intuitive mind games???
Prediction: CC will not let this earth-shaking Ronan-troversy affect his performance tonight.
Erica-that’s funny. I’m glad you eventually got Bert back
Erica
isn’t it about time for GTLU???
Nick in SF
October 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Erica, I’m not sure if I want your picks or not…will I lure myself into counter-intuitive mind games???
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Well, I once tried picking the opposite of my instincts in football and I wound up confused, with a headache and a very average week.
Alas, the offer remains on the table
Matt, you are truly clueless but keep repeating yourself, it just makes you look that much more ignorant.
Ever since this fat Mick has sung, we have not won a WS…..
“No, I’m not black…but I don’t get offended when someone calls me a cracker or honkey or any other ridiculous word used to “offend” white people.”
You are ENTIRELY missing the point. And if you really think “cracker” is equivalent to the n-word, it’s not worth continuing this conversation.
I COULDN’T UNDERSTAND A WORD THAT WAS COMING OUT OF TYNAN’S MOUTH.
HE MAY BE AN OPERA SINGER, But dude needs to speak english more clearly. Does he even have a green card?
Its ok for the supposed President of Iran to speak to US college student but Ronan cant sing godbless america after a joke that was in poor taste. There is something very very very wrong with this country these are very dark days
horrible horrible thread… This thread is worse than the ranting when the yanks lose…. new thread needed please….
upstate kate
October 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Erica
isn’t it about time for GTLU???
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In 8 minutes. But I must confess- I am in the midst of a strong insternal conflict over cancelling it. Part of me feels it might change the mood of this board, the other part doesn’t want to get pulled further into an abyss of gloom over some of these comments I am seeing
MG-
ya tooo sensitive. here’s a crying towel — your mascara is running..
Richard gets it. ML is one of those people who perpetuates the whole problem.
Again…..you have to seperate a not-so-funny guy trying to be funny in response to a realtor trying to be funny (I’m sure they are all a hoot), from Michael Richards. The guys real fault is he needs to work out his new comedy routine behind closed doors before he tries it out with the local realtor who will make an instant phone call to page six.
Now he gets to make donations to any group claiming that he has set their cause back, and he can endlessly and unnecessarily apologize to the world about how he did something wrong.
kevin…how much?
I am so tired of the Angels we are great, confidence crap. I really hope the Yanks beat them. Not only because I want them to win but so this talk can finally stop. I know the Yanks have had issues with them but the Angel’s players and some media make it seem like they have the greatest teams of all time. Why because they finally removed their diapers for once and beat Boston? Please the Sox teams from ‘03-’07 had much better pitching and overall teams than this team and the Yanks beat them. Enough already….Let’s go Yanks!!!
Robert Tynan or whatever should just find a new gig, maybe, part-time street sweeper for NYC. rofl.
DAVID CONE to throw out first pitch tonight (Sorry for the Yankee news on this horrific thread)
“Vrsce
Religious hatred? – YES!! — Where do you get that from? His lame stupid joke? YES.
Your attitude is just as destructive as bigotry, always ready to flare into anger over any perceived injustice. Two sides of the same nasty coin.” [What are you talking about; who flared into anger?]
The “joke” is no joke if it’s not funny and is an archetypical example of bigotry. It’s not comparable to other types of insensitive humor. I’m proud of the Yankees and will continue to be if they disassociate themselves from Ronan Tynan. This is a free country and he can choose to be a bigot, anti-semite, etc. But no one should want him representing our team in any capacity.
What’s the point then Jimmy? Show me the way!
NEW THREAD!!!!!!
Glenn Beck
October 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
MG-
ya tooo sensitive. here’s a crying towel — your mascara is running..
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Glenn, after years of being a third rate (at best) radio hack you finally figured out a way to put yourself over to the American public. Enjoy it while it lasts, I give you about 5 years before you’re back spinning records at a some small station in Montana.
oh geeze with the PC Police.
He’s Irish right? Maybe he was drunk at the time.
MG, it’s pathetic……..again, I don’t get offended easily at all. Some of the things I’ve read hear are worse than what Tynan said….sad, but I guess it’s the way of the world. No one has any empathy anymore.
Can someone explain to me the big deal? He dint even say anything hateful. I dont see anyone up in arms when every media pundit on MSNBC takes a swipe at the Catholic Church
# trisha – OPPC lifetime member who trusts Jose Molina and Chad Gaudin October 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
DB happy to see you. I need your picks for the CLS.
http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/CLS2.pdf
Thanks trisha, happy to post.
I picked the Dodgers in 6 and the Yanks in 6, although that would probably be different today…I’ll stick to what I posted originally. (not here, but I have to have some sort of integrity)
Too bad for Ronan but if he offended one person, Jew or not, he deserves to go.
what do you expect the yankees to do? this story went public. you think they are going to let this guy continue singing “god bless america”? despite your personal opinions, theres no way this guy would ever not be booed off the field.
haiku-man
October 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Did he forget the Steinbrenner’s are Jewish?
Out of the hearts abundance,the mouth speaks!
Open mouth and in go foot~itis
This was bigotry on display.
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You’re a fool. George Steinbrenner is about as Jewish as Bruce Springsteen.
NOT AT ALL!!
Mac daddy – send me an email kevin.david.foster at gmail
Half the players come to bat with music playing that says alot worst then what ronan said quite a two faced move by the yankees
Matt October 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Can someone explain to me the big deal? He dint even say anything hateful. I dont see anyone up in arms when every media pundit on MSNBC takes a swipe at the Catholic Church
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exactly. the jews are too sensitive.
I don’t even get what he was trying to joke at….Jewish people aren’t exactly known for being late with the rent.
Funny thing about jokes is that they are always based on something you believe to be true. If the other person agrees with your point of view, it induces a chuckle or a laugh.
The thing he believes to be true is what escapes me.
Joel…
Is this the same Yankees organization that embraced a racist like Gary Sheffield?
The same Sheffield who tried to push out Bill Spiers in 1988 because he thought a black man should have priority over whites?
The same Gary Sheffield who believed liked to play race supremacy about the inherent independence of blacks vs Latinos in 2007?
And the Yankees are going to sack a long-time favorite of fans because he made a joke about Jews? Even though it’s clear he’s not an anti-semite, and his outlook on religion is nowhere near the vitriol of Sheffield?
That Yankee organization?
Sorry, hate to tell you – especially having worked in baseball (Mariners), but the idea that the Yankees embraced Sheffield given his obvious and vitriolic racism, while giving Tynan the boot for making an off-hand joke in which he meant no harm (I the same off-hand jokes to Jewish friends and Pole jokes to Polish, you name it) – is laughable.
Grow up.
The Yankees handled this with no class.
Every ethnic group is given a kind of unspoken right to poke fun at themselves. But no ethnic group is given the right to poke fun at others.
The comparison of Tynan to Letterman is ludicrous. Letterman pokes fun at everyone. That’s expected of him. (And he never made a joke about anyone having sex with Sarah Palin’s underage daughter!!)
The comparison to Jackie Mason is even more inane. Larry David? He’s playing a character who is grossly, and always, insensitive. Context means everything.
Those of you who choose to defend Tynan, or to dismiss his comment as insignificant, have that right. But, by doing so, you are contributing to a problem. And you just come across as another stupid anti-semite. Again, your right. Enjoy.
If Tynan had made his comment about his own ethnic/religious group, we wouldn’t even know about it. But he didn’t. He made the comment about Jews. That’s always funny to anti-semites and idiots.
The Irish, by the way, have been the brunt of plenty of jokes over the years. Irish represents a rather distinct culture and rich tradition. Why didn’t Tynan reference the Irish in his comment?
I agree with those who think this might not be worth spit. After all, Tynan is no one special or important, really. But to his defenders, I say: XXXX$(*)(*)*)*&)(^(Y??!!!!!
And BTW, don’t even get me started about the rest of the double-standard racism in the rest of the MLB.
I could go on for hours about the explicit bigotry that went on in the Mariners from 2000-2004 and how it’s tied to Daisuke Matsuzaka’s racist remarks this year.
You’ve got no idea about how hypocritical the Yankee sacking of Tynan is because you have no perspective of what true bigotry looks like, which – in my case – is a context given the Seattle organization.
“‘Ever watch Curb Your Enthusiasm?? Larry David makes jokes about gentiles and jews on a regular basis.’
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‘It’s one thing for a Jew to make fun of a fellow Jew, just like a fat person can make fun of their own weight or a family member can say mean things about another family member.’”
He makes fun of Jews AND Gentiles. He isn’t both of them.
As an Irish Catholic I am mortified by this man’s remarks and I sincerely hope that Jews hearing about this story do not think he represents the Catholic way of thinking. Catholicism,in fact, is a religion founded on unity and cooperation of all religions. In my 50 years of life, thankfully, remarks like this from fellow Catholics have been far and few between. That’s all…now shall we move on to baseball?
P.S. Whoever is lumping Glenn Beck in with anti-Semites, please stop. He is not, and you yourself are guilty of bigotry by implying this.
P.P.S. Matt–just because the media constantly takes swipes at the Catholic church does not mean is OK for anyone to do the same to Jews.
I’m 1/100th Jewish and I took no offense to it. For all we know a Jew once stole a potato from him one day when he was out boozing it up on Guinness.
Mike R, you missed the context part…
He is an HBO personality, not the picture of humanity singing the national anthem. It is a WAY different standard.
Ut33..
Most people use the term “bigot” as an insult, having no idea – and no care – for what it means or how it’s applied.
To make it easy – bigots are people who are naturally thin-skinned agitators who can’t tolerate anyone who they perceive as a “threat” or “offensive”.
A comedians who makes jokes (as Tynan tried to make one here) are naturally light-hearted personalities. They may be wrong in many respects, even ascerbic like Chris Rock (who makes ALOT of jokes about race and religion like Jews) – but they are fundamentally NOT bigoted personalities.
The Yankees and people who’ve lashed out against Tynan, however, are displaying a fundamentally bigoted reaction.
It’s similar to a person who having heard comedian Chris Rock joke that blacks needed to “follow the law” was gunned down by a mad-raving crowd.
Like I said, the Yankee and others’ reaction (to include any “Jews” who participated in it), is the true bigotry.
NOT Tynan’s joke.
The Yankees have shown their ass in this one.
Funny how it’s most likely white men saying that Tynan’s comments are no big deal.
If you dolts want to get a clue, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE
Not that this is really relevant, but to the person who said the Steinbrenners are Jewish, they actually are not.
Somebody decided to put up a whole web site about this, go figure.
http://is-george-steinbrenner-jewish.com/
Nonetheless, the team made the right decision here.
TERRY #1=BIGOT!!
Why would anyone want to defend a remark that is offensive?
Where does it end? Is it ok for people to say whatever they want and get away with it?
Just because past injustices were committed doesn’t make it right to continue down that path.
Mike R…
The idea that a person is not allowed to comment against another on the basis of identity politics is not new.
The “Black Community” typically uses it as do others to a certain degree.
“You can’t criticise me because you’re not black”
AND
“A Black man can’t be racist”
AND everything along these lines.
The problem?
1) These statements are fundamentally racist and have an inherent contradiction which cancel themselves.
2) People who espouse “One group can’t criticise another” never practice what they preach.
I always figured Steinbrenner was German but when people said he was Jewish I thought I had it wrong.
No excuse for bigotry.Terry THE Yankees blog is a bigot free Zone.You’re in the WRONG place BIGOT!!
Propaghandi said: “Funny how it’s most likely white men saying that Tynan’s comments are no big deal.”
Three things:
1) You have no idea what race we are because this is an internet forum.
2) The fact that you’ve prejudiced an assumption that anyone who disagrees with you is white is self-efacing proof that you’re a racist.
3) I’m not white.
4) The above statement (3) bears no weight to a color blind person. If I were black or white, it wouldn’t make my arguments any more or less valid on merit.
The only difference it would make is to racists like you Propaghandi.
“Propaghandi
October 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Funny how it’s most likely white men saying that Tynan’s comments are no big deal.
If you dolts want to get a clue, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE”
Funny how you’re comparing hate speech to an off color joke. Tynan didn’t refer to Jews as the K-word like that link refers to blacks as those other words.
Steinbrenner is Jewish,Haiku-man is right.
Can’t wait for work to end in a couple of hours and get home and watch the game tonight!!!
Yanks in 6!!
Cool… They sacked the singer, now maybe they’ll sack that stupid song.
George Michael Steinbrenner III, born in Rock River, Ohio on July 4, 1930, is Christian.
Steinbrenner’s last name leads some people to think that he is Jewish, but he is Christian and of German descent. The former owner of the Yankees and CBS, William S. Paley, was Jewish. For more information about George Steinbrenner and other Jewish baseball trivia, check out http://www.is-george-steinbrenner-jewish.com.
George Steinbrenner
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
New York Daily News cartoonist Bill Gallo often cites Steinbrenner’s German heritage by drawing him in a Prussian military uniform, complete with spiked helmet, gold epaulettes and medals, calling him “General von Steingrabber.”
DB
When did “God Bless America” become the national anthem?
so George not jewish? lol…
DB,
I think you’re intelligent enough to know what the joke was but you want to muddy the waters to cast aspersions.
That’s your issue, not mine.
But for those who want to know the mechanics of the joke:
It’s an satirical joke using irony:
A real-estate agent made a joke that his client was not a Red Sox fan. The real estate agent himself was using a satirical irony that Tynan was someone who would overreact to a Red Sox fan in his midst (in reality he wasn’t, but it’s part of the running joke).
Tynan plays along with the running joke by pretending that he doesn’t like Jewish people and that, to him, they’re worse than Red Sox fans (in reality, he has no real problem with Jews – but he’ll probably rib Red Sox fans).
Honestly, it’s embarrassing to have to “explain” a joke because, the truth is, everyone who claims that they’re ignorant of the mecahnics of this joke are obviously lying.
It’s so obvious (both the joke and the feigned ignorance) that I’m surprised the bigots who pretend otherwise aren’t crawling away in shame.
George Michael Steinbrenner III was born into a German Presbyterian family in Rocky River, Ohio on the Fourth of July, 1930, which is fitting for the owner of the Yankees, the premier franchise in major league baseball, the erstwhile “America’s Pastime.”
http://www.associatedcontent.c.....tml?cat=14
I’d say he’s German.
trisha…
I hate Wikipedia.
Terry #1 who the cares about your bigotry and rants.
The man used bad judgement asking a Real Estate agent to, REDLINE a potential home owner.It’s against the law for anyone to do that,because if race,creed,color or religion.
Evil prevails when good people stand by and do nothing,remember?
Terry #1…
What a surprise. After your transparent declaration that you were “done:”, you’re still here, being an apologist and showing yourself, probably without realizing it, to be the ignorant bigot that you are. The Yankees didn’t “lash out” at Tynan. They calmly and appropriately handled the situation. If you don’t like it, leave. Take your bigotry and ignorance and go root for whatever other team you like. Whatever the Yankees may or may not have done in the past that you may consider hypocritical, they’ve done the right thing here, for two reasons: The first is that it disassociates them from the kind of thing Tynan said, and the second is that it annoys morons like you. Personally, I get almost as much satisfaction from the second as I do from the first. But maybe that just means I need to grow up, as you say. Either way, you’re late for your train to Seattle.
Trry #1
that’s your problem….YOU HATE!!
IT always amazes me when people take up for those spewing ignorance and intolerance toward others,and then calls the other person too sensitive.
What fool would ever understands,ot makes excuses for bigotry?This isn’t the south,this is the North.That kind of talk is foreign in these parts.
Terry #1 you need to be shown the door,Don’t let the door knob hit ya,where the good Lord split ya!
This is why it’s NOT a big deal:
If the real quote was, “I don’t care about that as long as they are not Italian” I would not care.
So let’s stop being the PC Police.
-An Italian
Joel said: “What a surprise. After your transparent declaration that you were “done:”, you’re still here”
You’re lying because you’re claiming that I was going to leave this thread so that people like you could make things up and attack a good man.
In fact, what I said was that I’d be done with the Yankees as a fan. In fact, I might be done as an investor in some of their distribution if this is how they’ll conduct themselves in the future.
Here’s exactly what I said at 2:31:
“I can’t stand thin-skinned people, and it makes sports that much less enjoyable for me.
You’re attempt to put forth the lie that I would
If the Yankees don’t reverse their PC initiative, I’m done.”
Nothing else of what you’ve said has any substance because I’ve already addressed the fact that Tynan is no bigot and that his attackers, in truth, are the real bigots.
So I’m sorry to tell you that I’ll be pointing out your lies and hypocarsies for the forseeable night…
In fact, congratualtions, you’ve convinced me to intermittently come back to Lohud’s tonight because I think I’ll have fun poking at a someone like you who has no discernible character and even less intellectual firepower.
That, and I think the Yankees deserve a drumming for this amateurish behaviour.
Sol Rosenberg should sing God Bless America tonight.
(ANYONE BUT KATE SMITH)
Put forth the lie? You said it, champ. Scroll back. Take a look.
It always amuses me to watch a dumb person like you dig a deeper and deeper hole. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and that’s obvious to anyone with a brain. That you think you’re the smart one makes it even funnier. Your poor logic, your fallacies, your grammar mistakes, your incorrect spellings… all just layers of proof. You’re a dumb guy, Terry. We get it. Sputter all you like. Give the Yankees a “drumming” (sic) all you like. In the end, you are a whiny, dumb, inconsequential bigot… and you’re not even an exceptional one. Just a regular troll.
Very sad news. I look forward to hearing him sing
this time of year.
No matter what, he made a mistake and should have known better than to make a comment like that.
Unfortunate!
Wait, was I allowed to say that? ^ Kate Smith is a woman, I don’t want to offend women..
Trisha,please tell me that you know that someone can be German AND Jewish. Your posts reflect that you think the two are mutually exclusive. It would scare me to think of our education system failing so desperately.It could have just been the way you worded it, though.
Say no to bigotry always,it’s a poison to all -
“This isn’t the south,this is the North.That kind of talk is foreign in these parts.”
This has to be the most ignorant statement yet.
Siciliano –
I’m not Italian, but you’re spot on.
Terry and DB –
I certainly see both of your points. I just think what he said is being blown out of proportion by many people here.
I understand the Yankee’s reasoning for removing him from his singing duties because there is no need to put a polarizing figure on the field to sing God Bless America.
It just seems like an awfully innocent comment to get worked up about, and we don’t even know the context or tone that it was said in.
We, as a nation, have lost the ability to laugh at ourselves since the liberal PC police have taken over.
If we get swept, it’s gonna be known as the Curse of Ronan Tynan
Siciliano…
It was not a big deal until the Yankees MADE it a big deal.
They could have given Tynan some time to work through some damage-control and explain that either it was a joke or that he didn’t mean it.
Instead, they decided (and it was a deliberate decision) to threaten the livelihood and reputation of Tynan.
There are too many levels of indiscretion or malice involved in this decision that businessmen don’t miss.
I’ve been a Yankee fan for more than 20 years, even when I was employed by the Seattle. My time in the Mariners garnered respect for the organization (until about 2000) but I was always the odd man out when they played the Yankees.
The Point?
No true Yankee fan would have cared about the agitators claiming anti-semitism about Tynan any more than we cared about Sheffield’s claim about Joe Torre’s racism.
The only people who would have turned away from the Yankees are not the actual yankee fanbase – they’re bandwagoners and Johny-come-latelies.
But by lending their name to this false charge of anti-semitism, they’ve threatened a good man’s career.
This is how they conduct business with a loyal employee?
Have you seen how the Yankees have treated their most loyal fans this year at the ticket counter?
Have you seen how they treat like Lou Gimbel?
Yes, if this is how they conduct business, I’ll be pulling out; financially, because they’re alienating their real fanbase, and in fandom because an organization with no class or character does not appeal to me.
The Yankees want to start catering to fans like “Joel”, “Propaghandi” and “Say no to bigotry always,it’s a poison to all”, and a bunch of empty seats?
The Yankees want to start insulting fans like me and Gimbel?
Fine, I’ll teach my sons and grandsons about the once-great Yankees. And since I know that the rest of baseball’s not much better, I think I’ll encourage them to play a different sport like soccer.
Teach your kids to like any sport you want, Terry. Your brand of ignorance is dying off, slowly but surely. There will be plenty of Yankee fans to fill the seats when you and all the other morons leave.
The Yankees did the right thing.
Interesting that it was an Irishman who exhibited this racial bigotry/hatred/insensitivity/whatever you want to call it since throughout history the Irish people also have certainly suffered from being likewise stereotyped/victimized/discriminated against.
Sorry Terry, I still don’t get the joke. While, God Bless America might not be our national anthem, as I wongly pointed out. It is obvious what it stands for.
Speaking for myself, the last thing that would be going through my mind if someone said “well he is a red sox fan” would be “as long as he is not Jewish”.
Like I said before, if a person told me that. I’d know exactly what type of person he is. And it’s not someone I’d want to be associated with.
Stupid Mick.
SO CAN WE PLEASE HAVE TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLGAME BACK NOW, PLEASE?????????
BREAKING NEWS: JANET JACKSON WILL BE SINGING “GOD BLESS AMERICA” AT YANKEE STADIUM FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!
in a recent poll, 46% of americans polled claimed the yankees as america’s team. if tynan cannot represent all americans, he does not belong in yankee stadium (permanently). by the way, neither does that song.
Chris – that is disgusting
Ronan will now have to take the role of Chunk in the Goonies sequel to make ends meet. The upside is that the Yankees can ditch God bless America and let fans ‘dispose’ of their beer during the seventh inning stretch.
Ronan Tynan is toast.
No more Kate Smith. I cant stand it anymore.
If you need something get Ray Charles’ America the Beautiful
which is a signature piece of work. Go Yanks. Dipper from Tribeca
Folks, if you choose to live in New York City, you are picking the most Jewish community in America.
It’s an ironic joke. You know, like, if somebody is looking for an apartment in Chinatown and you tell them, “hope you don’t mind Asians.”
Or in Harlem making a stupid comment about black people living in the neighborhood.
Politically incorrect and stupid, but, come on, here’s an Irishman living in a building full of Jews in a city full of Jews. If he were truly anti-semitic, he probably wouldn’t be there.
The Yanks won both games…..Ronin is OUT!
Ronan Tynan is welcome in Philadelphia any time. After we whip your ass, I plan on seeing him many times over the coming months. The man doesn’t have an ounce of ill will in him. Shame on you NY; this man has been a positive for NYC for many years; shame on you Mr. Steinbrenner for not coming to your friend’s defense.
People really are very thin skinned. Irish people had to endure “No Irish need apply” for years. We got over it and we moved ahead. Ronan is a very nice decent person, who has made an awful lot of people happy for many years. Why does one flippant comment overshadow all the great things this fine human being has achieved. Small people love to pull down big people. Why?
It was a joke for Christsakes!! Actually a pretty funny one. It is absurd to not rent to a Sox fan and absurd to think it acceptable to not rent to a Jewish person. Thats all he meant. I am a Sox fan and detest the Yankees … but he was a touch of class. Old man George made bigger faux Paxs on a daily basis. Lighten up!! I seem to remember a similar joke in a Seinfeld episode.
Eric, is that supposed to be a joke because Ronan is an amputee and doesn’t have feet ?
Maybe people should read the entire quote in context before rushing to judgement.