ALCS Game 4: Yankees at Angels
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 20, 2009 
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YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Johnny Damon LF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jorge Posada C
Hideki Matsui DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Melky Cabrera CF
Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (2-0, 1.23 ERA)
ANGELS
Chone Figgins 3B
Bobby Abreu RF
Torii Hunter CF
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Juan Rivera LF
Howie Kendrick 2B
Kendry Morales 1B
Mike Napoli C
Erick Aybar SS
Pitching: LHP Scott Kazmir (0-0, 7.50 ERA)
TIME/TV: 7:57 p.m., FOX
WEATHER: It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood – clear skies, temps in the 60s and 70s and plenty of sun. Check out the full forecast here.
STATE OF THE STRIPES: The Yankees remain two wins from the World Series after losing a heartbreaker in 11 innings yesterday. Weird fact? All seven of the Angels postseason wins over the Yankees (three in the 2002 ALDS, three in the 2005 ALDS and one so far this year) have been of the come-from-behind variety.
BATTER VS. PITCHER: Here’s the Angels vs. Sabathia. And here’s the Yankees vs. Kazmir.
CC ON SHORT REST: CC Sabathia threw 114 pitches in his Game 1 start and is pitching tonight on three days rest. Sabathia didn’t pitch on short rest this year, but did it in his final four starts last year for the Brewers and went 2-1 with a 0.83 ERA before getting roughed up in his one playoff start for Milwaukee. Joe Girardi says the short rest won’t give him a quick hook with Sabathia. “As far as the pitch count, I would have no problem letting him go 110, 115 if that’s what it took,” Girardi said.
THREE DAYS HISTORY: According to the Elias Sports Bureau, there have been 85 instances since 1995 in which a team has started a pitcher on short rest in the playoffs. In those games, the starters have gone 20-34, throwing 458 1/3 innings and compiling a 4.65 ERA.
A-PLUS: Alex Rodriguez hit his fourth homer of the postseason in Game 3, and he’s got a career-high nine RBI. In his previous 39 career playoff games before this year, he had a combined seven home runs and 17 RBI.
TEX TURNAROUND: Mark Teixeira has been struggling at the plate, taking a .120 batting average into today’s game. Could facing Kazmir be what gets him going? Texieira is 7-for-11 with four doubles in his career against the lefty.
YANKEE KILLER: Howie Kendrick continued to torment the Yankees yesterday, finishing a double shy of the cycle and hitting an 11th inning single off Alfredo Aceves that led to him scoring the winning run. History would indicate tonight might be more of the same: Kendrick is 8-for-12 lifetime off Sabathia.
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
IF THERE WERE WALK-TO-THE-PLATE MUSIC IN REAL LIFE, TODAY’S WOULD BE: California Love by Tupac
UPDATE, 5:09 p.m.: Chad here. Mike Scioscia on the Mariano Rivera “spitball” video: “I’d be shocked if there was anything to that.”
UPDATE, 5:38 p.m.: As you can see, the lineup is up and the only switch is Posada batting ahead of Matsui now. Girardi said that was based on Posada’s past success against Kazmir (11-for-25, 5 RBI). When he was asked about sticking with Swisher, Girardi said, “You just don’t give up on a guy because they’re struggling.” That said, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Brett Gardner get a start in Game 5 against Lackey.
Girardi also laughed off the Rivera/spitter story, pointing out that the spitball is designed to dart and move unpredictably – or the exact opposite of what Rivera’s cutter does, which is bite consistently. “To me, it’s a dead story,” Girardi said.
Audio coming shortly.
UPDATE, 5:54 p.m.: Here’s the audio from Girardi’s press conference. In addition to talking about his bullpen decisions and the Rivera video, he also touches on the Yankees struggles with Howie Kendrick, the approach to facing Vladimir Guerrero, Teixeira’s defense, Swisher’s struggles and a few other assorted topics.
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UPDATE, 6:05 p.m.: For those who can’t listen to the audio, here’s Girardi on being second-guessed: “If every move you made as a manager was 100 % foolproof, then you’d probably win 162 games, but that’s not going to happen either. … We prepare. We talk about things (on the bench). I felt in my gut and in my heart and in my mind that it was the right move.”
UPDATE, 6:27 p.m.: It’s Chad again. Mariano Rivera just talked about the spit controversy. “I laughed about the whole thing,” he said. “What would I get mad for? I care about what the fans think about me, but if somebody has followed my career for all of those years, I would have to have a lot of spit to spit for a lot of years.”
The audio’s not great, but we’re going to try to get it posted to the blog in a minute or two. Rivera was actually really funny. He put in a piece of gum just before talking to us, and at one point he actually had to turn away from the group of reporters. ”Excuse me,” he said. “I have to spit.”
UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: Here’s the audio from Rivera.
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UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Chad here again with a few notes from Girardi’s session with the beat writers.
• As expected, Girardi wouldn’t go into detail about why he wanted Aceves over Robertston last night, he said only that he thought Robertson matched up better against the first two batters that inning and that Aceves matched up better against the Kendrick and the batters who followed. “I figured I was bringing Ace in anyway an inning later,” Girardi said. “Because you’re only going an inning with Robby.”
• If I may put two and two together, Aceves told us last night that he was attacking Kendrick with cutters and changeups. Robertson is a fastball/curveball pitcher. That must be the matchup difference the Yankees liked.
• Girardi on whether he would have used Rivera in the bottom of the 11th had the Yankees taken the lead in the top of the inning: “Mo told me he was going back out if we scored.”
• As for his mid-at-bat convesation on the mound about Vladimir Guerrero – after which Guerrero hit a two-run bomb — Girardi said he went out only after Jorge Posada first went to talk to Andy Pettitte: “They were talking and I wanted to make sure that everyone was on the same page. They knew exactly what they were doing and it was what we wanted, we just didn’t execute.”
UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: Sabathia is out on the warning track, playing catch before heading into the bullpen to warm up. The grounds crew is working on the field and the fans are filing in. We’re about 25 minutes from first pitch on a beautiful night here in Orange County.
UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: And we’re off. Jeter drops a single to right and it’s 73 degrees at game time.
UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: So much for that. Jeter was going on first move there and Kazmir picked him clean.
UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: Great slider from Kazmir to get Teixeira, who knew it right away. Now CC goes to the mound.
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Girardi said that pitch count wouldn’t be an issue with Sabathia tonight, but even so, it’s nice for the Yankees to get a relatively quick one from CC to start. He finishes the first at 10 pitches; Kazmir threw 13.
UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Good patience from A-Rod and Posada. Making Kazmir work, instead of chasing, is critical for the Yankees tonight.
UPDATE, 8:34 p.m.: Again the bottom of the order fails to come through. Two pop-ups and then Swisher flies to right to strand two more runners. Swisher is now 3-for-23 with one RBI in the postseason.
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Whatever else happens tonight, at least Sabathia can say he retired Howie Kendrick. So that’s something.
UPDATE, 8:42 p.m.: CC is being economical. That was a nine-pitch inning to give him 19. Kazmir is at 38 going to the third.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: Any of you happen to catch the Phillies rally against the Dodgers in the ninth inning yesterday? If you did, you’re a better teammate than Manny Ramirez. He was, apparently, in the shower at the time. Check out the ridiculous story here.
UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: Teixeira goes down swinging again. He’s in a brutal slide and is 1-for-15 in the ALCS.
UPDATE, 9:00 p.m.: It’s only the third inning and we’re headed to a second thread. Come on over.
Ok with tomorrow off, no more overmanaging.
CC
Robertson/Joba/Coke/Hughes
Rivera
Hopefully the game wont even be close.
Worse to go on the shoulder because 9 times out of 10 there will be a policeman waiting for you at the end more than ready to give you a ticket
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
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Is someone not loving LA??
(Aside from the fact that Anaheim is nowhere near LA even though the team pretends it is)
Dont expect Hughes tonight
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Hughes only threw 20 pitches and this is the play offs, he is defintiely available for 1 inning tonight. Believe me when Girardi starts getting up tight in the late innings everyone is available.
SJ44-
I didn’t think it was you. You were getting impostered.
Laura said if it was you she was really Kate Hudson
“RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?”
Both are bad, and I will drift into whichever lane you choose and slow you down. You are better picking up a prostitute and taking her to the ballgame just so you can use the HOV lane.
Everyone in the pen is available tonight.
Forget Joba. I don’t want him anywhere near this game.
CC, Marte/Coke for lefty matchups, Hughes and Rivera.
The only guys I use in game deciding situations from hereon out.
Girardi has to manage like NBA coaches do in the playoffs.
SHORTEN not LENGTHEN your bullpen options.
He has to save himself from the only person who can cost the Yankees this series….himself.
You do that by limiting your options.
Last call for today’s Guess the Line Up.
Reminder: post players AND positions
Submissions until the line up gets leaked or 4:30 (whichever comes first). NO late entries today
Vin, Fran, Upstate Kate, Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist, Christina, Blackaccord, Shawn, Ed H, Laura, NYY626, Mark in Tampa, Hensley Muellens, Dave F, Indy42(same)
Iiicollies
Trevor
Tex’s Friend, Andrew33 (same)
Adam, BigSix (same)
Bronx Bombers Girl
Frank from Chatham, Hokiehill (same)
86w183
Peter Rabbit
Yankee in ND
Arliss, YankeeRay (same)
I forgot to add Robertson to my post. Definitely have Robertson available from the 7th inning on tonight.
MOst of the decisions can be explained away, but pulling d-rob with 2 outs just made no sense. people dont always agree with joe, but there is generally a reason. hopefully we see more robertson, less aceves moving forward.
I would drive in the breakdown lane with my hazard lights flashing
Good reference Vin with the HOV/hooker line, love Curb!
Both are illegal. Driving on the shoulder is illegal and dangerous.
“If they can’t do it, then the manager needs to make lineup changes for Game 5.”
@SJ
That worries me, I have to say. I can imagine Girardi being stubborn and saying “nothing is wrong with our 7-9 hitters” and sticking with them.
The same goes for Joba and Ace.
“TEX TURNAROUND: Mark Teixeira has been struggling at the plate, taking a .120 batting average into today’s game. Could facing Kazmir be what gets him going? Texieira is 7-for-11 with four doubles in his career against the lefty”
even the HR in the Twins series, was down the line a couple feet from being foul. The off days have destroyed his swing. I hope he can find it. No one wants to succeed more then him
“No one wants to succeed more then him”
Didn’t know that about Tex.
The good thing is that his glove is still there.
Today’s lineup should be an easy one going against a lefty, otherwise I would say Gardner gets a start over Melky tomorrow depending on how this game goes:
Jeter: SS
Damon: LF
Tix: 1B
Arod: 3B
Matsui: DH
Posoda: C
Cano: 2B
Swish: RF
Melky: CF
“Laura said if it was you she was really Kate Hudson ”
I knew that was an impostor because my posterior doesn’t look anything like Kate’s.
Angels used 6 pitchers yesterday.. Every one of them pitched atleast 1 inning minimum..
Yanks used 8 pitchers and 5 of them were used for less than a inning… Only Andy, Mariano and Hughes pitched for 3 or more outs..
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
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well, if you’re asking about out here in cali, someone has to catch you first. see people doing both all the time. chp ain’t what it used to be. where’s ponch and jon
btw, solo in the hov = $381.
Last thought on Girardi….
Overall, he has done a good job this year. That said, he is a first time manager in the post-season and you have to hope he learns from his mistakes.
Folks can spin it all they want. Guys on the team know he overmanaged yesterday. That happens and if its a one shot deal and he learns from it, the Yankees are ok.
If he gets stubborn and continues to do it, and it costs the Yankees another game, or this series, he will get fired.
I hope he understands that.
The Yankees are a MUCH better team than the Angels this year. They should be up 3-0 in this series.
Yesterday was the ONLY time a Yankee team blew a 3 run lead in an ALCS Game after 5 innings in franchise history.
They were 30-0 in such games prior to yesterday.
They have to win one of these two games in Anaheim. Preferably tonight since Girardi will sit a hot hitter for a cold hitter tomorrow (Molina for Posada) further weakening the offense.
My hope is the guys take the game out of Girardi’s hands by putting together their best offensive game of the post-season.
I’m not real confident that Girardi has yet learned his lesson if the game is close. I hope I’m wrong because I’d hate to see the guy fall apart after doing so well all season.
If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
If you are stuck in a traffic jam, you are stuck period…
Tex and the off days is interesting. He was the only person on the Yanks that I heard say the off days is going to really hurt his swing. His comment was something like having 4 days off will be like starting all over at spring training. I really hope he can get things together….quick.
“Girardi has to manage like NBA coaches do in the playoffs.
SHORTEN not LENGTHEN your bullpen options.
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Great way of thinking about it. I think Girardi got too caught up in the “our bullpen is so deep” argument.
Here’s a not so random thought:
Why not bring in Gaudin to face Kendrick? Gaudin is really tough on righties and Kendrick usually sits against right handed starters (like AJ). Neither Ace or Gaudin has gotten consistent use anyway.
And its hard to make the argument that you like Aceves because he’s a little more of a junkballer than the harder throwing K-Rob.
If it’s raining HOV for sure, if not…the shoulder is a great lane =)
LA is definitely not Long Island but….
Everytime I see someone jump in the HOV solo on the LIE they get pulled over. I may or may not have ever jumped the shoulder and gotten away with it
Can we have a blowout for once
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m tired of seeing the Yankees jump out to a 3-0, 4-0 lead in every single game they play in Anaheim, only to see it wash away. At this point, it’s going to be hard for me to even get excited about a lead because that’s how every loss against the Angels starts.
I just hope CC pitches well and doesn’t put a lot of runners on base each inning. And the Yankees must do a better job against Kazmir and the Angels’ bullpen.
I prefer homemade helium balloons when I’m stuck in traffic.
“where’s ponch and jon”
ponch? prolly has VD, and still doin infomercials. Its been reported he was quite the romeo in his day
I understand using Coke or Marte to face a guy like Jason Kubel who just doesn’t hit lefties very well at all.
I think there’s much less reason to take out righties like Robertson or Hughes in order to get the platoon advantage when facing the Angels lefties and switch hitters. Other than Figgins, there’s just not that much platoon differential with them. There is some, but it seems outweighed by the overall talent difference between the pitchers being replaced.
I mean, the question is not, does Morales or Abreu hit righties or lefties better? The question is, who’s more likely to get Morales or Abreu out? IMO, the answer is generally going to be Joba/Hughes/Robertson, not Coke/Marte.
Zach in Port Jeff
October 20th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I prefer homemade helium balloons when I’m stuck in traffic.
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Are you a balloon boy????
Seriously, if you’re stuck in LA traffic, the best thing to do is to sit and grind it out. Jumping off and taking the surface streets will end up being even slower. Driving in the shoulder/HOV only gives you bad Karma (and hopefully a ticket).
There’s a reason there are so many people on the freeways – it’s because it IS the fastest way to get where you are going.
You don’t have blowouts too many times in the playoffs.
In fact, a 3 run lead in the 5th inning is a “blowout” and the Yankees couldn’t finish it off.
I just want better AB’s. Stop with the nonsense of swinging at everything in the dirt, have smarter approaches, and get guys in from third with less than 2 outs.
If they do that, the offense will better.
If guys in the lineup continue to fail in those situations, I don’t care who they are, sit them for Game 5. If Joe Torre can bench Tino and O’Neill in playoff games, Joe Girardi certainly can sit the bottom third of his order if they continue to stink it up.
Everytime I see someone jump in the HOV solo on the LIE they get pulled over. I may or may not have ever jumped the shoulder and gotten away with it
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Erica, did you steal my grandpa’s handicapped parking spot last week?
Today’s round of postseason “Guess the Line Up” is now closed.
Please do not post any more submissions.
SJ said something in last post that made me think.
Why aren’t Yankees hitters spitting on LAA breaking balls, especially from the relief corp? Very few, if any thrown for strikes.
Remarkable. And true across the board.
Zach in Port Jeff
October 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Erica, did you steal my grandpa’s handicapped parking spot last week?
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No. I would never, ever park in handicapped.
I would create my own space first
If you’re out there, Pat M, just dined at Tommy Pastrami, per your recommendation. Thanks, nice meal, and they had a pic of CC on their little ‘money tree’ for good luck. Gotta be a good sign!
“Both are illegal. Driving on the shoulder is illegal and dangerous.”
then driving from boston to cape cod is very dangerous because everyone does it.
“There is some, but it seems outweighed by the overall talent difference between the pitchers being replaced.”
Great point. And on that note, I am definitely not a fan of using Marte to turn around a switch hitter. Simply because righties hit Marte so well (this season and in his career) that it negates the fact that the switch hitter is hitting from his weaker side.
That loud sound you’ve been hearing from the OC this morning is not thundersticks, but people jumping on the Angel bandwagon.
The Angels win one lousy game and now the locals who haven’t paid attention to baseball all season are suddenly experts. Mo’s a cheater, Girardi is being out-managed by Scioscia, Kendrick is better than Texiera, etc, etc.
And then there’s that damn rally monkey.
For Pete’s sake your team has a plush stuffed animal for a mascot . . . You need inflatable noise-makers because you can’t make enough noise on your own and because it keeps you from tossing around beach balls. Your team’s retired numbers are for players who put up their career numbers elsewhere (Carew, Ryan). You have one retired number for a guy whose only claim to fame was that he lived a long life and once knew Babe Ruth (Jimmie Reese). And the whole place still feels like Disney . . .
There. I feel better. Man, I hope the Yankees beat these guys. If they don’t, it will be unbearable out here.
Remember folks, in the 33 innings played so far, the Angels have had the lead in just 1 1/2 innings…..
“IF THERE WERE WALK-TO-THE-PLATE MUSIC IN REAL LIFE, TODAY’S WOULD BE: California Love by Tupac”
Wrong Tupac song Sam, go with “To Live and Die in LA”.
SJ44-
The problem with sitting guys, seems to me, is that there’s just not any answers on the bench that justify sitting the starters who aren’t performing.
Maybe, for game 5, you can replace Melky with Gardner. But is Hairston or Gardner likely to hit better than Swisher or Cano (or Tex)? Despite the poor hitting, my guess is not.
I think despite it all, you just have to dance with the guy that brought you and succeed or fail with them.
The bottom of the lineup needs to start hitting. In the postseason Cano is hitting 200, Swish is hitting 136 and Melky is hitting 200. You dont even need all 3 of them to hit you take having 2 of them start hitting.
Yesterday game should of never went into extra innings. The yankees have been getting good pitching. The team is not hitting with RISP.
SJ,
The problem is Girardi has no better offensive options on the bench. He doesn’t have Strawberry, Sierra or Cecil Fielder.
He has Bret Gardner and Jerry Hairston.
This 3 catcher thing and extra pinch runner thing has taken away actual lineup options for situational options.
Hinske would have been nice to have to use last night. We were all praising that pickup because we knew he’d be a nice weapon in the post season.
Now we can’t use him and have to rely on guys who are swinging from their heels for the fences at every at bat.
This has to stop tonight.
I hope we get bad Kazmir tonight. If Swisher can’t hit a ball, then he needs to take pitches and get on base.
As for Cano and his RISP-itis, I have zero clue what you do there. He’s becoming a lost cause with men on base.
It’s up to him to decide to fix it as it’s all between his ears.
Nick in SF, Not quite NYC, but they come close….Great soup ( chicken noddle )
“That loud sound you’ve been hearing from the OC this morning is not thundersticks, but people jumping on the Angel bandwagon.
The Angels win one lousy game and now the locals who haven’t paid attention to baseball all season are suddenly experts. Mo’s a cheater, Girardi is being out-managed by Scioscia, Kendrick is better than Texiera, etc, etc. ”
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Hear Hear!
The “Mo Spitball” rag is really annoying me. The fact of the matter is, he’s probably the best reliever in the history of baseball, one who has never been egocentric, outspoken, or involved in controversy. He’s one player who absolutely deserves respect.
And yet the Angels fans have found a way to try and rip to shreds his entire reputation for the purpose of… what? Create a petty war with Yankee fans?
some of the Yankees’ hitters approaches have been really bad lately. Jason Bulger and Darren Oliver made us look terrible by simply throwing breaking balls in fastball counts. All they did was pitch backwards and our hitters just couldn’t seem to grasp that concept. Really, a lot of the strategy by their pitchers has been to just pound the Yankees with breaking stuff all the time. If our guys had been sitting on offspeed more, we definitely would have came out on top yesterday.
That being said, the Yankees pitching is good enough to carry this team if it has to. Borden mentioned in the other post, “now the Yankees have a starter going on 3 days rest”. He failed to mention the starter was CC Sabathia, possibly the best pitcher in baseball at the moment. I’ll take him on 3 days rest any day. He’s confident out there right now and he can potentially give our bullpen a rest.
Tonight is still a must win for the Angels. If they go down 3-1, can they really win 3 straight against the Yanks, the final two at Yankee Stadium? The simple answer to that question is no, they can’t. The pressure is still on Anaheim, and the Yankees WILL get some hits tonight with RISP. They aren’t going to go hitless in that spot forever. Yanks will take care of business tonight and bounce back.
“then driving from boston to cape cod is very dangerous because everyone does it.”
If everyone jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge would you do it?
People get killed from morons driving in the shoulder. That’s extremely dangerous. No one ever got killed because someone was driving with too few passengers in the HOV lane.
As for yesterday’s question: THANK YOU to everyone that suggested 5 GUYS BURGERS. I had it for the first time last night and it was great. Definitely better than In N Out. The burger was much better and the fries, surprisingly, were actually better too (In N Out has good fries!).
What is really annoying ….. Dodger Fans jumping on the Angels bandwagon.
The scouting book on the Yankees is that most of their lineup will chase soft stuff in the dirt late in counts.
That’s the book the Angels are using, and the Twins did the same, with great success so far in the post-season.
The starters have been dominant, Arod has been amazing, and the Yankees have taken advantage from some dumb play from the Twins and Angels to win 5 of their first 6 post-season games.
Bottom line though, they have hit like crap since the post-season began and their lack of patience is a big reason why.
Scott Kazmir has trouble throwing strikes. If the Yankees chase his slider in the dirt tonight, it will be another long night for them.
If they wait him out, attack his fastballs up in the zone, they will have success with him.
In the post-season, its about approach at the plate and not stats.
That’s what seperated the Dynasty Teams from the 2002-2009 teams. Those guys knew how to hit in the post-season.
The 2002-2009 Yankee teams simply do not and that’s a problem.
Hopefully, these guys step it up in the next couple of days and find a way to win one game in Anaheim.
SJ is right. The Yankees aren’t taking their usual approach to the plate. They have to be patient and take more pitches.
Teixeira in particular has been chasing pitches well out of the zone. It’s time to make Kazmir work and do what got you here.
Pitching the BIG man on 3 days rest will be the demise of this team in this series. He croaks tonight with no one behind him that you can count on in the next 2 games. He’ll be running on fumes if it gets to 7.
Angels in 5!
Since Cano cannot hit with runners on base I say he drops down a bunt. Nobody would expect that from him.
I believe a ticket for the HOV is much higher then driving the shoulder in Cali.
“I think despite it all, you just have to dance with the guy that brought you and succeed or fail with them.”
WYH,
You’re 100% right. Changes (other then the stupid Posada, Molina thing) are window dressing. You have to hope Cano, Swisher, and most importantly, Tex get through it quickly.
That said, the pen could use some better management. Robertson (or matchup LOOGY) in 7th, Hughes in 8th, Mo in 9th. Extras – bring out Joba, Ace.
Does anyone else think Hinske should be on the team instead of Guzman? They could’ve used him a few spots last night to pinch hit when Matsui and Damon were out.
I’m so sick of Howie Kendrick. One of the Yankee pitchers should make an example out of him one of these days and hit him with a high fastball. They shouldn’t hit him in this game but they should hit him.
“He’ll be running on fumes if it gets to 7.
Angels in 5!”
Sorry Sid, two Yankee wins already. Going at least 6.
And why would CC be on fumes if it goes 7. In game 7, he’ll have normal rest.
randy l.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
“Both are illegal. Driving on the shoulder is illegal and dangerous.”
then driving from boston to cape cod is very dangerous because everyone does it.
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Driving anywhere in Mass. is dangerous.
I agree the bench options aren’t great.
Personally, I’d play Hairston for Swisher tonight (even though I’m well aware Girardi won’t do it) because at this point, Swisher is a liability at the plate.
I don’t, and never will, understand the fascination with Freddy Guzman and why he is on the post-season roster over Eric Hinske. That move makes no sense to me and it hurt the Yankees yesterday.
I also HATE 3 catchers. Hate it. All because of AJ Burnett and the nonsense surrounding his starts.
Its reactive and not proactive thinking.
I don’t care what they do tonight, Posada has to catch AJ tomorrow. They can’t lose his bat and put another out in the lineup.
If AJ doesn’t like it, pitch Gaudin.
At this point, its about winning 2 more games and the players feelings are meaningless.
Hopefully CC can give them 5-6 innings tonight. Otherwise they will have to go to Gaudin early and that isn’t good. When was the last time Gaudin pitched 3 weeks ago?
Are you a balloon boy????
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Erica, I’m sort of a hybrid version between The Balloon Boy and The Bubble Boy. Anyone want to play Trivial Pursuit? First question…who invaded Spain in the 8th century?
Since Cano cannot hit with runners on base I say he drops down a bunt. Nobody would expect that from him.
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Ever saw him attempting a bunt?
He can’t bunt.
Robertson should get the 7th he has really earned it. Joba does not belong in the bullpen. He is a starting pitcher!
… The Muslims, I think?
The Moops
Actually the way to the Cape and back, rt 3 and on 95 AKA rt128 allow breakdown lane travel in rush hour, FYI…it can be very dangerous though because MA/RI drivers are the absolute worst and never pay attention getting on even though they have a yield sign!
I knew it.
I knew it.
I knew people would be on the ledge after yesterday’s game. It’s yankee-fan nature.
The truth is the Yankees have NEVER swept an ALCS. Not once.
Not even the 1998 team (6 games) or the 1999 team (5 games) or the 1978 team.
I mean the 1998 team, THE GOLD STANDARD of teams, took SIX games to beat the vastly inferior Cleavland Indians. I’m glad the Boss didn’t fire torre after losing game 2 at home.
I tell ya, some so called fans and experts need a Valium (or maybe a history book).
I’m so sick of Howie Kendrick. One of the Yankee pitchers should make an example out of him one of these days and hit him with a high fastball.
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How about just pitching him inside like they should be doing? That is exacly how every team pitches him and notice how he doesn’t hit against any other team? Yanks keep pitching him up and on the outside for some odd reason.
… The Muslims, I think?
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more specific?
Sid Licious
You’re an idiot ! How would he run on fumes when he has been rested all season long including the postseason ? That makes no sense. I’ve saw a 34 year old Curt Schilling pitch on 3 days rest in the 2001 World Series and he shut down the Yankees. I saw Josh Beckett pitch on 3 days rest and shut down the Yankees in Game 6 2003 World Series.
SJ, The Hiske issue is a major front officce blunder, especially when you have Gardner hitting in Matsui’s spot in the lineup…..Cerevelli was lost yesterday at the plate…..This is October not July….
“Personally, I’d play Hairston for Swisher tonight”
Can’t agree there. I know Swish is lost right now, but his normal patience and power too much to sit for Jerry.
Amen to Guzman and 3 catchers. It’s hurt NY in 2 of 3 games so far.
” If Swisher can’t hit a ball, then he needs to take pitches and get on base.”
swisher is so bad with breaking balls right now, he should leave the bat on his shoulder when he sees breaking ball spin.
the Moors.
Or “Moops”, if we’re playing THAT version of trivial pursuit…
sorry- I saw.
LOL Angels win in 5? Looks like trolls don’t know how to count.
“Jason Bulger and Darren Oliver made us look terrible by simply throwing breaking balls in fastball counts. All they did was pitch backwards and our hitters just couldn’t seem to grasp that concept. ”
I noticed that in the first game. John Lackey, Bulger and Palmer all thew a lot of 3-2 curveballs. You’d figure the players and KLong would recognize this.
He has no normal patience. He has swing at 14 pitches in the dirt so far in this series.
He can’t make contact and strikes out too much.
I’d rather have Hairston in there because he makes better contact than Swisher.
To me, its about making contact and not power. Making contact leads to runs in the post-season. As we saw with Hairston in Game 2.
Flailing, as we see with Swisher, leads to unproductive outs.
Girardi won’t do it but, he should. Its fools gold to think that Nick Swisher is all of a sudden going to “find it” when he keeps hacking at anything in the dirt.
I’ve been saying since the before the DS roster came out no Guzman, he hasn’t done anything to prove he can swipe a bag when it counts. That being said the Angels have 2 reliable lefties in their pen. Hinske wouldn’t have added as much value as you think. The reason Guzman is there is due to Joe wanting to give Gardner a start. I’m guessing that start is Thursday.
Or “Moops”, if we’re playing THAT version of trivial pursuit…
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Yes, we’re playing THAT version. Well played.
“Driving anywhere in Mass. is dangerous. ”
maine yankee-
if you drove your john deere a little faster it might help
negative.
negative.
negative.
This isn’t a blog it’s bile.
Sad sack of arm-chair managers.
HRs from slumping Tex and Robbie tonite.
6-4 Yanks.
If a34 year old Curt Schilling was able to shut down a team on 3 days rest in the 2001 World Series then Sabathia can do the same.
Does anyone think pitching a pitcher on 3 days rest really is as bad an idea for a pitcher as the media is making it seem? It’s not like the Yanks have any other options to start tonight. I always hoped that Cash not trading for a decent 5th starter wouldn’t hurt them in the post season.
randy l.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
“Driving anywhere in Mass. is dangerous. ”
maine yankee-
if you drove your john deere a little faster it might help
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I prefer the old Farmall’s.
Don’t have to drive them fast when you can drive over them.
Do you guys think Matsui prefers pancakes or donut munchkin holes?
“If AJ doesn’t like it, pitch Gaudin.”
It sounds crazy, but I agree Gaudin and Posada are superior IMO to AJ and Molina. With only ARod, Jeter and Posada hitting, how do you sit Posada?
I’ve been a Swisher apologist all season, and I’m sticking with him over Gardner or Hairston. I thought he got some pretty tough breaking balls yesterday. I say play Nick and cross your fingers. Sequential offense isn’t going to score runs – I like the long ball threat.
Jeremy October 20th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
You’re an idiot
I wish I had a nickle for everytime I’ve seen this on the blog, it would be better than playing the stock market. Amazes me as to how peoples opinions are trashed on this blog.
If the Angels want to win this series they have to do it in the Bronx and in the cold. And they know that they don’t play well there in those conditions.
My Predictions:
- CC will be efficient and effective, but not dominant.
6 ip, 4 hits, 1 ER, 4 k.
- There will be a lot of double plays on both sides
- Yankees will take a small lead early, and get a couple insurance runs later.
- Mark Texiera will have an RBI within the first 3 innings.
- A Yankee will hit a 2-run home run.
- Scott Kazmir will also be effective, but less so than CC.
7 ip, 3 ER, 7 Hits
- Johnny Damon will hit into a double play.
- Nick Swisher will get a hit.
Well, those are my predictions.
It’ s going to be a blast and a half in here tomorrow with the
AJ-Molina/Posada garbage if the Yanks lose this game tonight because of the cold bats.
Fun city.
I expect CC to be fine tonight. He is a beast.
I am leaving work now.
I will award the Guess the Line Up winner(s) when I get home later
Before I go-
3 hours and 5 minutes until Game 4!!!!!!!!!!
sar515 October 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
HRs from slumping Tex and Robbie tonite.
6-4 Yanks.
Hope so, 5 was the magic number yesterday. It will take some small ball to get to 6.
Erica – always OPPC
October 20th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I am leaving work now.
I will award the Guess the Line Up winner(s) when I get home later
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Have a safe ride home. Can’t wait for game time!
“That is exacly how every team pitches him and notice how he doesn’t hit against any other team?”
Except:
Boston: .379, 1.041 OPS
Cleveland: .364, 1.000 OPS
Royals: .333, .935 OPS
Twins: .444, .983 OPS
Rays: .333, 1.067 OPS
Mariners: .314, .850 OPS
But other than that, he hits nobody.
Bronx Jeers
October 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
It’ s going to be a blast and a half in here tomorrow with the
AJ-Molina/Posada garbage if the Yanks lose this game tonight because of the cold bats.
Fun city.
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Oh God. Don’t even remind me. Now I REALLY hope they win tonight. LOL
Swisher is too streaky of a hitter. If he struggles again tonight you almost have to sit him down for game 5. He cant hit Lackey anyway. Put in Gardner and put Melky in right. If Gardner goes 1 for 4 he already did more than Swisher.
Hensley Muellens Blast Pal
October 20th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
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I haven’t seen this name in ages. How are you?
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Erica, I have been good… haven’t gone anywhere just been a silent observer lately as we’ve crusied along, I think the loss made me post in order to change things up a bit in hopes of adding a little luck to tonight. Go Yanks!
Gary
I’m sorry but that guy Sid Licious is an idiot. He said that the Angels will win in 5 even though that is impossible. And then he says that CC will be on fumes in a potential Game 7 when he would be on normal rest.
Yankees 7, Angels 6
CC: 7.1IP 9H 4ER 3K 1BB
Kazmir: 5.2IP 7H 5ER 4K 4BB
Jeter: 2-5, 2B, 2R
Tex: 1-5, HR 2RBI, 2R
Arod: 2-3, RBI, 2BB, R
Posada: 2-5, RBI, 2B
Cano: 1-5, B, R
Swisher: 2-5, 2B
Gardner: SB, R
“Does anyone think pitching a pitcher on 3 days rest really is as bad an idea for a pitcher as the media is making it seem?”
Depends on the pitcher. Some, like Beckett and Schilling, for example, look at it as a challenge, and pitch just as good, if not better. Not for the whole season, of course, but once or twice should be no issue. I think CC is that type of guy to accept the challenge and throw a great game.
Others, like Mike Mussina, who seem to be obsessed with their routine, would be less likely to be effective on 3 days. They would be more likely to be concerned about the routine things they would be missing by going on short rest instead of shrugging it off and just pitching. Not trying to dis Moose, but he always seemed to be a guy who needed everything just so.
Yanks looks like they are favored by about 1 1/2 on the odds. Lets hope they are right. Yes I do know you can’t have a half run it’s just the way they set them. So it’s another close one.
Doesnt it scare anyone that Jeter, damon, arod, matsui, cano, and swisher are a combined 27-177 for a BA of .150 against kazmir??????????????????
Every pitcher in my childhood pitched on three days rest. If CC isn’t good tonight I don’t think I will blame a short rest. He is a huge man with a huge desire. I think he’ll be fine. I’m worried how hard it will be to score off Kamir considering the abysmal batting averages against.
Mark in Tampa October 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
“Does anyone think pitching a pitcher on 3 days rest really is as bad an idea for a pitcher as the media is making it seem?”
I made an earlier comment, it sets up both a game 4 and game 7 situation where he pitches a game 7 on normal rest and if the series ends earlier he’s ready for game 1 of the WS.
I’m sorry but if Howie Kendrick is owning you you have to teach him a lesson. Plant a fastball near his head. They should hit him.
According to Feinsand’s Twitter, Girardi flips Posada and Matsui in today’s lineup. Posada (11-for-25, .440) much better against Kazmir than Matsui (5-for-28, .179).
Swisher’s batting splits this year in wins vs losses are remarkable. In wins he hit .266 with a .401 obp and an ops of .937 . In losses he hit .217 with a .310 obp and an ops of .735
What it shows is that he contributed just fine in the games the Yankees won and conversely,when he doesnt contribute they generally lose. The Yanks need Nick to find it soon.
What is up fellas!! Im still feeling sick from last nights choke job. I kept telling my boy that 3 run lead wasnt good enough and it killed to be right. The good news is we have our horse pitching tonight. Its time to bury Mickey mouse and friends.
Does anyone know what is the record for the most homeruns in a post season. Alex has 4, its gotta be up there.
SJ, who do you blame at this point for the hitting woes? This has been going on for years – so this team isn’t any different than the teams that got knocked out in the early rounds, except the pitching is better. I realize that is a BIG except, but the rest of the team, the every day players – it’s the same old, same old. Now you see why people were skeptical about this team during the season…I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s great that the team loves each other, but unless Derek and Alex (who are now sick) can hit for each other, what difference does that make? I hate to blame the hitting coach because it’s up to the hitters to execute, but you can’t fire the lineup – unless, after the season, big changes are made.
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
pick up a hooker and drive in the HOV lane
But other than that, he hits nobody.
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My point was obviously if you pitch him correctly he won’t hit well. He has also had a terrible season. You are always going to find a team that a player hits well especially teams with terrible pitching like the ones on that list.
I not saying that the Yankees should hurt him but they should send a message.
Gary,
IMO, the strategy to pitch CC tonight on 3 days, game 7 if nec. on regular rest is very sound strategy. It gives the Yankees an equal or favorable pitching matchup in all 7 games.
Yankees Stats vs Kazmir
Jeter 4-36 1 HR 4RBI
Damon 12-36 3 rbi
Tex 7-11 batting .636 with 3 RBI
A-Rod 3-24 with 7 SO
Matsui 5-28 1 HR 3 RBI
Posada 11-25 BA.440 1 HR 5 RBI
Cano 4-24 3 RBI
Swisher 5-27 1 HR 2 RBI
Cabrera 8-20 2 2B 2 RBI
I’m worried how hard it will be to score off Kamir considering the abysmal batting averages against.
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Most of the Sox had bad numbers off Kazmir, but they were able to touch him up pretty good during the division series.
“I’m sorry but if Howie Kendrick is owning you you have to teach him a lesson. Plant a fastball near his head. They should hit him.”
Jeremy, how would you like it if someone purposely hit a Yankee in the head?
I think that people sometimes type before they think.
Doesnt it scare anyone that Jeter, damon, arod, matsui, cano, and swisher are a combined 27-177 for a BA of .150 against kazmir??????????????????
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Not one bit. .150 will only be good for less than 5 innings. Then the flood gates will open. I predict 5 walks and Kazmir lasting 4 1/3 tonight. This offense is due and tonights the perfect night for a blow out.
Has Girardi made a pitching change yet today?
Again, that is on Joe, not AJ. SJ, you said you knew AJ a bit when he was in Florida….at the time this controversy first started (months ago, it was in it’s infancy), you said that you didn’t think AJ would request Molina as a personal cathcer….that he wasn’t that type of guy (and if he was, he was more selfish than you thought). Do you honestly think this is on AJ? I am not privy to the information you are, so maybe you know more about the situation than we do, but he’s been a great teammate this year. I don’t see any reason to believe that he stomped his feet and demanded Molina or that he would put himself ahead of his team. This is all Girardi’s fault for not trusting his pitcher. Actually, Cash should have stepped in. AJ doesn’t need a crutch – the worst par is Joe believing he does.
It is pretty much the same offense as years pass in October. Outside of Teixeira and Swisher. The only difference right now is Arod is a different player.
Everything and everyone else is the same. So it’s no surprise this same group continues not hit this time of the year.
Wow, Wave – this is how far AJ has fallen in your mind? That he and Molina are inferior to Gaudin? Gaudin?
100 pitches of fun… October 20th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Has Girardi made a pitching change yet today?
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funny and sad at the same time
win or lose, with the players who got us here. And if Girardi didn’t, then fans would be criticizing him for that as well.
note: that also means Joba starts his off-season today
“Not trying to dis Moose, but he always seemed to be a guy who needed everything just so.”
2003 ALCS game 7 Moose saved the season pitching out of the bullpen.
I still find it funny that people are criticizing the Guzman move when 95% of this board was all for it, saying Hinske wouldn’t be needed as much as he would in the WS. Now the critics are coming out about CC’s start, when everyone (well, I was hesitant) agreed that it was the right thing to do. You can’t have it both ways.
Laura
The guy is killing the Yankees. He is always relaxed at the plate against Yankee pitching. They need to brush him off the plate. How is that wrong when that’s part of the game ?
betsy-
Gaudin and Posada, vs. AJ and Molina. I did admit it sounded crazy, but SJ44 had the notion first.
you know whatchya do? get ur room mate’s blow up doll, put a shirt on it, and go in the hov lane.
btw, sabathia needs to keep the ball down and pitch EXACTLY like game one. keeping the ball down will mean k’s and ground outs. AND CAN SOMEONE GET A BASE HIT WITH RISP????
People who drive on the shoulder in traffic are the lowest of the low. Do HOV lanes still exist???
Is anybody else bothered when CC is referred to as a horse?
It just doesn’t sound nice.
Trevor
Damon is starting to hit. Posada is starting to hit, and Matsui is having better at bats. Jeter and A-rod are leading the team, and the rest of the lineup stinks right now.
raymagnetic,
Yes, he certainly did. I forgot about that. I used Moose as an example because he was the first I thought of who seemed so routine-obsessed. I am sure there are others, though, who simply couldn’t function normally knowing they are on short rest. Mussina was maybe a bad example, since he has obviously proven otherwise.
No Line up yet… is there uncertainty afoot Joe G?
100 pitches of fun said: “Has Girardi made a pitching change yet today?”
Okay, this made me laugh.
Jeremy said: “The guy is killing the Yankees. He is always relaxed at the plate against Yankee pitching. They need to brush him off the plate. How is that wrong when that’s part of the game ?”
Brushing him off of the plate is one thing. Hitting him in the head is another.
If anyone is going to the game tonight, do me a favor. Get yourself a rally monkey and smack it on camera with those annoying thunder sticks or have a squirrell holding a thunder stick with a monkey hanging by the neck on it. Now that would make me feel alot better. Sorry, had to get that out. Im in southern california and i cant even get myself to go to a Yankee game here anymore.
Trevor, then this team was probably overrated during the course of the year…..or, we got our expectations too high. I don’t know what the common denominator is that makes our lineup turn to jello at this time of year, but maybe Cano does have to be traded. As to Swish? I don’t know…..
“Gaudin and Posada, vs. AJ and Molina.”
What about AJ and Posada, with Gaudin ready to come in at the first sign of AJ meltdown?
“Is anybody else bothered when CC is referred to as a horse? It just doesn’t sound nice.”
Not really since it’s meant as a compliment. If they were talking about me, I’d be more upset.
Is anybody else bothered when CC is referred to as a horse?
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Steinbrenner once referred to Irabu as a “toad”. A “fat toad” I believe. I’d rather be a horse.
Mark,
I definitely understand what you were saying about Moose, he was a stickler for his routine.
He also was hesitant to change his pitching style in 2007 after his fastball lost velocity, so you do have a point about his stubborness and wanting things a certain way.
“My point was obviously if you pitch him correctly he won’t hit well. He has also had a terrible season. You are always going to find a team that a player hits well especially teams with terrible pitching like the ones on that list”
Your point is bogus. He struggled early, but hit .295 on the season and had a terrific second half, hitting .360 with a .950 OPS. Those teams with terrible pitching that he hits so well, include the Yankees (#3 ERA in AL), Seattle (#1), Boston (#6) and Tampa (#7).
the lineup off Twitter:
Jeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 5, Posada 2, Matsui DH, Cano 4, Swisher 9, Cabrera 8, Sabahia 1. –Carig
“but maybe Cano does have to be traded”
Please swim back to the shallow end!
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/m.....id=6350584
MLB live. You can watch Joe G here
betsy
October 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Wow, Wave – this is how far AJ has fallen in your mind? That he and Molina are inferior to Gaudin? Gaudin?
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Good thing Girardi disagrees, because if he had that much faith in Gaudin then he would be starting today.
Not to mention that after all the crazy pitching changes Girardi has made, Gaudin is the only pitcher yet to appear in the playoffs.
AJ’s inconsistent and frustrating to watch, but is he inferior to Gaudin? Hell no.
Mark in Tampa October 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
“Gaudin and Posada, vs. AJ and Molina.”
What about AJ and Posada, with Gaudin ready to come in at the first sign of AJ meltdown?
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Just make Burnett a short reliever then.
Zach in Port Jeff – I believe he called there was a 5-letter p-word in between “fat” and “toad”
Via the beat writers, it’s the A line up with Matsui and Posada reversed.
Posada wouldn’t second-guess the move, even though it left the Yankees with only one pitcher, right-hander Chad Gaudin, in the bullpen.
“We knew Aceves was out there and he was warming up. And he wanted to go with Aceves,” Posada said. “He was down in the zone. He did a lot of things very good.
“Aceves has been pitching real well. I don’t think I can second-guess that.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....1102.story
It wouldn’t be too crazy to bat CC today… provided he could go the distance.
Some times teams will scout themselves, to see what other teams are looking at. If the Yankees have done that, I would think they’ve seen the problems with chasing balls in the dirt late in the count. If this board can pick it up, I think Kevin Long is good enough to see that also. I hope so.
As far as Hairston playing for Swish, it depends on Swish’s past record against Kazmir, plus intuition. If Swish is right, he’s a great threat.
CC for 7, followed by DRob/Hughes, and Mo. Let’s get it done tonight and make Anaheim sweat.
“What about AJ and Posada, with Gaudin ready to come in at the first sign of AJ meltdown?”
actually in an unprecedented move , the yankees are going have 9 catchers in the bullpen tomorrow. whenever one catcher gets in trouble , they’ll bring another one in.
lol, the beauty of it the whole thing is, it doesn’t matter what anyone here thinks of A.J., Molina, Swisher, or Cabrera. Doesn’t matter at all.
Wave, I think SJ was trying to sort of punish AJ if he was going to act like a baby and insist on Molina. He’s obviously not shaken his reputation from Florida and Toronto completely, despite the fact that his teammates love him….seems people are inclined to believe the worst in him. IF AJ did that, I would agree…..except I don’t think he would ever do that, or come close.
“It wouldn’t be too crazy to bat CC today… provided he could go the distance”
yes. He would probably fair much better then Melky right now
Your point is bogus. He struggled early, but hit .295 on the season and had a terrific second half, hitting .360 with a .950 OPS
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If this Kendrick is so great than why didn’t he start the 1st 2 games?
““Aceves has been pitching real well. I don’t think I can second-guess that.””
Clearly, Sato and Girardi have short memories. Aceves was lights out pre-July. He hasn’t been great for awhile now. Even if Ace was throwing well, D-Rob was pitching fine. You don’t take out a pitcher who is doing well for another one who may not.
It was a bad move. Plain and simple.
“Is anybody else bothered when CC is referred to as a horse? It just doesn’t sound nice.”
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It was either that or the GREAT WHITE WHALE. Any better suggestions.
Mark, AJ has pitched well this post-season and he did not melt down in his last start – why assume he’s going to ? Andy blew a 3 run lead and the team lost the game, but he’s not getting nearly the knocks that AJ did.
“If this Kendrick is so great than why didn’t he start the 1st 2 games?”
Fat head, um I mean Scioscia plays Kendrick against lefties and Izturis against righties. Since CC and AJ pitched the first two games, no Kendrick.
CC reminds me more of a bear.
I love how Gaudin is just sitting out there waiting to pitch the last who knows how many innings.
I’ll admit I had trouble watching the last couple of innings last night.
Didn’t even see the Yanks come to the plate in the 11th because I blinked too long.
lol randy. Classic post. Does that mean Flash and Pornstache are back on the team?
“Just make Burnett a short reliever then.”
Actually, my proposed strategy had Burnett going longer than the .1 and .2 innings that Girardi allows the relievers to pitch.
Lineup I believe……
Jeter
Damon
Teixeira
Arod
Posada
Matsui
Cano
Swisher
Melky
Girardi said that he thought that taking out Robertson for Ace was a smart choice. Well he was wrong, and anyone with a brain would have known that it was wrong.
Those stats someone gave on Kendrick are not correct. In his career for teams he has 100 PA’s or more against, he has a .600 OPS vs Oakland and Seattle, .800 vs Texas, 1.050 vs Yankees(batting over .400 in 100 pa!), and terrible vs the orioles.
He is a yankee killer, straight up.
“CC reminds me more of a bear”
a brown bear. Not those small black bears
“If this Kendrick is so great than why didn’t he start the 1st 2 games?”
You’d have to ask the manager why he didn’t start Game 2 (He did start Games 1 and 3). Never said he was great. He’s got zippo for plate discipline, but when he does hit it, he seems to hit it well. Kind of a Cano-light to me.
As Francesa would say “time to break up the core”. j/k
This group has proven for years now they just don’t hit. I don’t know why. but they’ve had plenty of chances to get over the hump.
Sure Posada tied it. But they did absolutely nothing after that. And they are failing to score if they don’t hit a HR.
Francesa had stat that they’ve scored 27 runs this postseason and 11 or 12? via the HR. Not good.
Maybe it’s time to let Damon go after the season. Matsui too. Melky etc…
I said earlier on another thread, we all like these players cause they produce during the regular season but they have proven time after time they don’t get it done during the playoffs.
Only Arod has looked different.
I think Gaudin and Henske should pull a coffee table out and play fish.
the lineup off Twitter:
Jeter 6, Damon 7, Teixeira 3, Rodriguez 5, Posada 2, Matsui DH, Cano 4, Swisher 9, Cabrera 8, Sabahia 1. –Carig
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Well at least they switched Posada and Matsui.
“Those stats someone gave on Kendrick are not correct.”
Stats were from this year.
Let’s hope the trend holds up:
Yankees-Angels Accuscore predictions:
Gm 1: 68/32 W
Gm 2: 60/40 W
Gm 3: 40/60 L
Gm 4: 60/40 ?
“Girardi said that he thought that taking out Robertson for Ace was a smart choice. Well he was wrong, and anyone with a brain would have known that it was wrong.”
What worries me is that there was no basis for the move. The fact that he can’t explain why he did it is scary. He claims that he can’t reveal why because it would alert LAA to a game plan. I think it’s safe to say that whatever that game plan is, it sucks.
Betsy,
I am not assuming that AJ is going to blow up. The question was AJ and Molina or Gaudin and Posada? My answer was AJ and Posada. Then, if there is concern that that won’t work, have Gaudin in the wings. I assume that is why he is on the roster, in case any of the pitchers get knocked around early.
betsy-
I’ve been beating the AJ/Posada drum so long it’s gotten boring. Since Girardi doesn’t seem to like that combo, when SJ44 suggested Gaudin I thought I’d switch to Gaudin/Posada and see how that worked out.
Obviously just being silly of course, not a real world scenario…
“You’d have to ask the manager why he didn’t start Game 2 (He did start Games 1 and 3).”
Did I have it backwards? Izturis and Kendrick share a platoon. Kendrick must play against Lefties and Izturis against Righties.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....Hq27OseczJ
Amazing that anyone would even question him.
What worries me is that there was no basis for the move. The fact that he can’t explain why he did it is scary. He claims that he can’t reveal why because it would alert LAA to a game plan. I think it’s safe to say that whatever that game plan is, it sucks.
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Have to agree here. If that’s how they hit the ‘game plan’, time for a new plan pal..
However, seeing girardi run over to the book like he remembered something would indictate he did have what he considered a plan.
Did espn get a lip reader yet to figure out what Girardi told Posada before the Vlad bomb?
My guess..
Jorge, you blow this and Pettitte will be pitching to Cervelli next time. Just kidding.
those dults at HalosHeaven.com with their doctored video of Mariano spitting have made me want to win this series and bash the Angels even more…
they had the gall to suggest that the league didnt properly investigate the spitball accusation and that the Yanks got preferential treatment.
I’m expecting a big game from the big guy tonight, and hopefully some of the sleeping bats wake up tonight.
I can’t take another day of hearing about how the momentum has shifted. I also don’t understand why people are saying the Yankees have to win one in LA. It sure would be nice, but technically not necessary.
with the day off tomorrow, do we get 2 in from mo tonight?
“Those stats someone gave on Kendrick are not correct.”
Stats were from this year.
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Well ok, thats a small sample. There are 100+ PA samples where he is not that good but very, very good vs the Yankees.
The Yankees just haven’t found out how to pitch to him I guess. They always have trouble with guys that bat lower in the order. Atleast that is how I feel when I watch the games
Posada hits .414 against Lackey. It’s going to be very hard to take him out of the lineup Thursday. Matsui is hitting .286 against him. Posada is obviously hitting the ball much better than Matsui but I don’t think Girardi will sit Matsui for him but maybe he should.
“What worries me is that there was no basis for the move. The fact that he can’t explain why he did it is scary. He claims that he can’t reveal why because it would alert LAA to a game plan.”
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I do believe Girardi and Eiland had a semi-rational reason for bringing in Aceves. Perhaps Kendrick is more susceptible to offspeed pitches. I dunno.
Either way, it was wrong. But I don’t think Girardi just flipped a coin or thought that Kendrick being 1-2 off of
Robertson was ample.
I think it must have had more to do with the style of pitcher that Aceves is.
I do think it was shortsighted regardless.
“I can’t take another day of hearing about how the momentum has shifted. I also don’t understand why people are saying the Yankees have to win one in LA. It sure would be nice, but technically not necessary.”
People are saying that we just need to win one in LA because of how well we play at home. If we leave LA leading 3-1, I would be floored if we didn’t advance to the World Series. I just don’t see us losing 2 straight at home.
Laura-
The basis for the Aceves for Robertson move, I think, was that Kendrick is an excellent fastball hitter. Robertson is primarily a fastball pitcher, so the thinking was to bring in Aceves who mixes things up, I guess.
The problem seems to me to be a “can’t see the forest for the trees” thing.
The question shouldn’t have been, does Kendrick hit the fastball or the curve better? It properly was, will Kendrick hit Robertson’s fastball better or worse than Aceves’ breaking pitch, and even if he does hit it, what kind of hit will it be?
I think that’s where the disatisfaction with Girardi’s decision is coming from.
“However, seeing girardi run over to the book like he remembered something would indictate he did have what he considered a plan.”
True, and if Aceves worked out nobody would be questioning it. This place is a riot. If Girardi doesn’t do what you want or explain it to your satisfaction, he is wrong and you are right.
“Yankees-Angels Accuscore predictions:
Gm 1: 68/32 W
Gm 2: 60/40 W
Gm 3: 40/60 L
Gm 4: 60/40 ?”
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Accuscore is my homeboy.
how accurate has accuscore been in the other playoff series this year?
“If we leave LA leading 3-1, I would be floored if we didn’t advance to the World Series.”
If we leave LA leading 3-1, Fox will be airing an Angels intra-squad game on Thursday.
vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
a brown bear. Not those small black bears
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a team player bear
“Does that mean Flash and Pornstache are back on the team?”
all hands on deck. the bullpen catcher is right behind them. i think he’s catching aj in the 8th.
for years teams have been puzzled about how to compose a bullpen.
the problem was too many pitchers.
from now on teams are going to carry 4 pitchers and 8 catchers.
there will be a four man rotation and new catchers will come in whenever the previous catcher screws up and gives up too many runs.
you’ve heard of billy ball.
this will be called AJ ball.
Mark in Tampa October 20th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
“If we leave LA leading 3-1, I would be floored if we didn’t advance to the World Series.”
If we leave LA leading 3-1, Fox will be airing an Angels intra-squad game on Thursday.
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I could imagine that flight. It would be like Home Alone when they’re trying to remember what they’re forgetting.
“The basis for the Aceves for Robertson move, I think, was that Kendrick is an excellent fastball hitter. Robertson is primarily a fastball pitcher, so the thinking was to bring in Aceves who mixes things up, I guess.”
I’m almost certain you’re right. However, if K-Rob throws a poorly placed fastball to any big league hitter, he’s going to get roughed up. Locate the FB, and he’ll have success against anyone.
At that point in the game, the very good fastball pitcher is a better option against a good fb hitter than the guy who has gotten irregular work for the past month and a half.
Boston Dave – 6 wins to go
October 20th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
those dults at HalosHeaven.com with their doctored video of Mariano spitting have made me want to win this series and bash the Angels even more…
they had the gall to suggest that the league didnt properly investigate the spitball accusation and that the Yanks got preferential treatment.
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I was over at SOSH to see their take on the situation and even Red Sox fans were standing behind Mariano on this. Say what you will about Red Sox fans, but many of them have a deep respect for Mariano, though they may despise him.
Angels fans have reached a pathetic new low. Have they not seen Rivera pitch before? There’s a reason why he’s considered the greatest closer of all time, and it has nothing to do with spitballs.
Guys, don’t kid yourselves. Joe and Dave Eiland didn’t just flip a coin and decide to go with Ace over Robertson for the hell of it. They had what they thought were good, and probably pre-series thought out, reasons for using Ace to face Kendrick. Just because he chooses not to publicize his strategy doesn’t mean he didn’t have a reason.
It’s OK to disagree with the move, but don’t think the guy didn’t think it through.
“I think that’s where the disatisfaction with Girardi’s decision is coming from.”
I see what you are saying. I would have gone with Robertson. Just because Kendrick is a fastball kind of guy, that doesn’t mean that D-Rob wouldn’t be able to blow one by him.
“We can only speculate that Girardi made the move because Aceves throws everything but the kitchen sink (only 43% of his pitches are fastballs), whereas Robertson primarily throws a fastball (76% of total pitches) and Howie Kendrick sits dead red, being 9.4 runs above average against fastballs in 2009.”
“It’s OK to disagree with the move, but don’t think the guy didn’t think it through.”
Oh, I’m sure he thought it through. He just should have used a different brain to do it.
actually, trisha, I was screaming when Robertson was pulled for Aceves. I believe my actual words at the time were something along the lines of “what a dumb move” (my son was in the room and so I was keeping it G Rated).
I suspect a lot of the posters here were thinking along the same lines.
Laura
“What worries me is that there was no basis for the move. The fact that he can’t explain why he did it is scary. He claims that he can’t reveal why because it would alert LAA to a game plan. I think it’s safe to say that whatever that game plan is, it sucks.”
Yeah. What is Girardi’s game plan ? If I base it on the past two games then I have to say that his game plan against the Angels sucks !
Laura – Don’t call him A-Rod. His new nickname is “Alex the late”!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
“I can’t take another day of hearing about how the momentum has shifted. I also don’t understand why people are saying the Yankees have to win one in LA. It sure would be nice, but technically not necessary.”
People are saying that we just need to win one in LA because of how well we play at home. If we leave LA leading 3-1, I would be floored if we didn’t advance to the World Series. I just don’t see us losing 2 straight at home.
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It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.
My head hurts
Why are we talking about Kendrick? Im more upset about a .211 hitter who so happens to be a defensive catcher roping us than Kendrick who has shown signs in the past to be a talent. Thats equivelant to Molina beating the Angels with his bat. Should never happen.
“It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.”
Fine. I typed that too fast. I meant 3-2. Happy now?
“Guys, don’t kid yourselves. Joe and Dave Eiland didn’t just flip a coin and decide to go with Ace over Robertson for the hell of it. They had what they thought were good, and probably pre-series thought out, reasons for using Ace to face Kendrick. Just because he chooses not to publicize his strategy doesn’t mean he didn’t have a reason.
It’s OK to disagree with the move, but don’t think the guy didn’t think it through.”
Good post. But it will be wasted on the ears of those who believe they are better managers than Girardi.
Joe from Long Island
October 20th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Guys, don’t kid yourselves. Joe and Dave Eiland didn’t just flip a coin and decide to go with Ace over Robertson for the hell of it. They had what they thought were good, and probably pre-series thought out, reasons for using Ace to face Kendrick. Just because he chooses not to publicize his strategy doesn’t mean he didn’t have a reason.
It’s OK to disagree with the move, but don’t think the guy didn’t think it through.
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Joe alluded to what you said in his press conference just now.
He said if he gave all his reasons he would be giving away some strategy.
MaineYankee October 20th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.
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1 more to play.
2H-3A-2H
Girardi’s gameplan for tonight should be for all hitters to hit with RISP. It’s brilliant! Sciosa won’t know what hit him!
Laura – Don’t call him A-Rod. His new nickname is “Alex the late”!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
“It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.”
Fine. I typed that too fast. I meant 3-2. Happy now?
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Yes.
Just in good fun.
KEVIN!
“actually, trisha, I was screaming when Robertson was pulled for Aceves. I believe my actual words at the time were something along the lines of “what a dumb move” (my son was in the room and so I was keeping it G Rated).
I suspect a lot of the posters here were thinking along the same lines”
Actually Wave the norm here is for the posters to scream whenever Girardi does something they don’t like so at this point it is nothing more than white noise to me. I still believe that nobody on this forum knows more about managing the Yankees than Girardi.
Im more upset about a .211 hitter who so happens to be a defensive catcher roping us
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I agree. But if you look at the pitch it was an absolute meatball. I think Molina would of even hit that pitch.
When the guys at Sons of Sam Horn are calling the “Mo spit on the ball” story ridiculous and saying they hope it doesn’t tarnish Rivera’s legacy in any way, then you know whoever created the video and the people who tried to perpetuate the story are complete hacks who should never be taken seriously.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
MaineYankee October 20th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.
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1 more to play.
2H-3A-2H
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Yankees are up 2-1 with 2 more in Cal. counting tonight.
“Joe alluded to what you said in his press conference just now.
He said if he gave all his reasons he would be giving away some strategy.”
Sure. Mike Scoscia probably has no idea Kendrick hits the fastball well. Wouldn’t want to clue him in. :-!
“Girardi’s gameplan for tonight should be for all hitters to hit with RISP. It’s brilliant! Sciosa won’t know what hit him!”
Boston Dave,
I think mlb messed up on this one. They should’ve just released a statement after investigating.
By acknowledging the fact that they were seriously looking into it shows that they’ll consider any crazy crackpot theory put up on the internet.
Wow, Howie Kendrick moving up in the lineup. AL MVP candidate hitting 7th?
I never got the Kendry Morales for MVP talk. If a guy is going to be MVP, should he primarily hit somewhere other than 6th in your lineup?
Wow, Howie Kendrick moving up in the lineup. AL MVP candidate hitting 7th?
I never got the Kendry Morales for MVP talk. If a guy is going to be MVP, should he primarily hit somewhere other than 6th in your lineup?
From what I recall, Eiland and Girardi both said, in effect, that they aren’t going to explain the move because the series is still going on. I understand their scouting and strategy, even if I don’t agree with it. With Robertson’s ability to get out of tough spots, I thought he earned the right (and more importantly, had the stuff) to get out of the inning. Oh well.
Take game 4 and things will shift back to a more ‘normal’ place in the world.
Oh, and can we stop talking about the spit BS? It’s a non-story and doesn’t deserve any more attention. Only non-baseball fans and fools would think that Mo is a cheater. It doesn’t need to be discussed anymore, IMHO.
“I still believe that nobody on this forum knows more about managing the Yankees than Girardi.”
And your point is?
Folks. All we have to do is get 1 of the next 2 games. Lets just hope its this one tonight as i would like to get some sleep tonight. 3-2 going home is as good as done.
“From what I recall, Eiland and Girardi both said, in effect, that they aren’t going to explain the move because the series is still going on. I understand their scouting and strategy”
Didn’t you know the rule that says fans on a blog have the right to know every bit of strategy and if they aren’t told it they have the right to suspend every bit of intelligence and declare there isn’t any?
Im taking a lot of flack for rooting for Torree’s Dodgers but it makes sense. 1)I like Joe 2) Im rooting for the drama to unfold, i.e. Torree’s return to the Bronx, Donnie coming home etc. 3) mathmatecially speaking we have a better chance of beating the Dodgers. The Phillies scare me. I think its only 50/50 we beat them. The Dodgers we have an 80 percent chance.
Im amazed so many Yankee fans have turned on Torree.
Trish: sorry, I must have missed that e-mail. I was too busy working in Photoshop, giving Mo sandpaper fingers…
MaineYankee October 20th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
October 20th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
MaineYankee October 20th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
It’s goning to be hard to leave up 3-1 when they have 2 more to play before going home.
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1 more to play.
2H-3A-2H
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Yankees are up 2-1 with 2 more in Cal. counting tonight.
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gotcha. I thought you meant 2 more to play once they’re up 3-1.
I mean, nice save.
Who in the majors isn’t a great fastball hitter?
Wasn’t it thoughtful of FOX to show Joe in the dugout running to his book?
Anyway I thought the guy did a great job this season so hopefully now he’ll learn that “this game has a heartbeat” to quote the last guy.
Did anybody think they were going to sweep this series anyway?
Speaking of pitching. When are we going to see the 97-98 mph fastball from Joba again? Where the hell did it go? I never thought i would see the day where Hughes is throwing harder than Joba.
The cars are still here, they couldn’t have gone to the airport!
The local media is reporting that the Anaheim police and the CHP will be out in force looking for drunk drivers after the game.
I take that as a good omen! Lots of depressed Angels fans heading home after a tough loss.
Sam, stay out of the HOV lane and off the shoulder!
“Trish: sorry, I must have missed that e-mail. I was too busy working in Photoshop, giving Mo sandpaper fingers…”
Is it too early to create a Christmas Wish List for the 2010 Yankees?
Line-up:
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
Teixera 1B
Rodriquez 3B
Matt Holliday LF
Jason Bay RF
Posada C
Swisher DH
Cabrera/Gardner CF
Starting Pitchers:
CC Sabathia
AJ Burnett
Doc Halladay
Andy Pettitte
Phil Hughes
Bullpen:
Does it matter?
World Series Rings Presented in April, to avoid embarrassment to other teams.
“Didn’t you know the rule that says fans on a blog have the right to know every bit of strategy and if they aren’t told it they have the right to suspend every bit of intelligence and declare there isn’t any?”
If the thinking is that Kendrick might have more trouble with Aceves’ breaking pitches than Robertson’s fastball, what’s the big deal about saying so? It’s not like that’s some big state secret or something that wouldn’t occur to the Angels.
Managers discussing strategy is part of what keeps the fans’ interest in the game.
SJ44 – “The Yankees are a MUCH better team than the Angels this year. They should be up 3-0 in this series.”
1. The Yankees are definitely NOT a much better team than the Angels. These games, and the games in the regular season, have been close hard fought games that have come down to the wire. I believe there is no more than a paper’s width difference between them. The Yankees have more power, the Angels have more hitting for average, the Yankees are a little better in the bullpen – not including Mo since he’s from another planet, but the starting pitching edge goes to the Angels. Managers? Give the edge to Scioscia.
2. I agree, the Yankees should be up 3-0 in this series. But, the reason they aren’t is the reason I am worried – poor hitting in key situations, poor managerial moves, pitchers who are unable to hold onto a lead. Those quirks that lead to losses in the postseason; quirks the Yankees used to take advantage of in the dynasty years.
This series is far from over, on either side, but tonight is as close to a “must win” as any the Yankees have had so far.
Tonight is the night C.C. shows us if he was worth 25 million per.
Hey maybe the story about Mo will aggravate the Yankee players so much that they will come out with a renewed vigor! You know, kind of like the way it worked when Gary Sheffield allegedly said the Sux didn’t really care about winning, after the Yanks had them down 3-0? And someone from one of the suxtown newspapers put a copy of the alleged quote on the locker on every Sux player?
3 (formerly S.o.S.)
October 20th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Speaking of pitching. When are we going to see the 97-98 mph fastball from Joba again? Where the hell did it go? I never thought i would see the day where Hughes is throwing harder than Joba.
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You must have missed the memo sent out across the land by all the experts.
The Yankees have ruined him.
Congratulations to today’s winners of postseason “Guess the Line Up”
Frank from Chatham
Hokiehill
And you all thought postseason GTLU would be too easy! Today we had 2 winners out of 28 entries (7.14% correct).
Thanks to all who participated. GTLU will resume Thursday at 3pm.
3 (formerly S.o.S.)
October 20th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Speaking of pitching. When are we going to see the 97-98 mph fastball from Joba again? Where the hell did it go? I never thought i would see the day where Hughes is throwing harder than Joba.
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I agree people who were saying that Joba was not throwing hard because he was starting well that has been proven not to be the case. He was hitting 97-98 as a starter last year. It is kind of similar to what happened to Verlander last year. Hopefully Joba gets his velocity back next year.
Trevor, that’s what I’m getting at. Jeter and Alex are great, but Cano? Maybe he can go…….he’s a valuable commodity and he would bring back some pieces. Damon is hitting now and he’s generally clutch. If the Yankees don’t bring him back, it shouldn’t be because he’s part of a rotten core…….Melky/Gardner should be back ups, but where to find a good CF? We don’t know when AJax will be ready, but it’s likely not for another year or so. All I know is that changes do need to be made…….
Does anyone know if Girardi was asked why they decided to pitch to Kendrick, when they could have walked him and let Robertson face Mathis?
Guess the Line Up Standings
After 6 rounds of Postseason Guess the Line Up, there have been 27 different winners. Here are the ones with two or more:
Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist – 4 wins- 10/7, 10/9, 10/16, 10/19
Upstate Kate – 4 wins – 10/7, 10/11, 10/16, 10/19
Blackaccord – 3 wins – 10/7, 10/16, 10/19
Ed H – 3 wins – 10/11, 10/16, 10/19
Fran- 3 wins – 10/11, 10/16, 10/19
Rob in VT – 3 wins -10/9, 10/16, 10/19
Vin – 3 wins – 10/9, 10/16, 10/19
Christina -2 wins – 10/11, 10/19
Doreen – 2 wins – 10/7, 10/11
KF – 2 wins – 10/11, 10/19
NYY626 – 2 wins – 10/9, 10/19
I look at it this way. We should have won game 3 and the Angels should have won game 2(alex game tying bomb). So i guess we’re even. Gotta admit. I got a bit selfish looking for that 3-0 games lead after MO and Teix got us out of that big jam. I was sure that the ghost took a first class flight to Anaheim yesterday.
I blame cashman for the pitching situation. It was obvious to everyone that the Yankees needed another quality starter at the deadline but Cashman did absolutely nothing. Boy it would have been nice seeing Roy Halliday pitching tonight for the Yankees with CC waiting to pitch game 5. If The CC on 3 days rest experiment doesnt work you have Cashman to thank for that.
“Girardi also laughed off the Rivera/spitter story, pointing out that the spitball is designed to dart and move unpredictably – or the exact opposite of what Rivera’s cutter does, which is bite consistently.”
Well this really puts a damper on my plans to open a special spitball training camp in Latin America.
I was even going to do studies on which foods gave the best spit for a baseball.
trisha
Yeah maybe this Mo story will fire up the Yankee players.
If the Yankees lose tonight, are fans going to jump off bridges? This is a must game for the Angels, not quite so for the Yankees…….unless you don’t have faith in them.
I have lost all faith in Girardi. I’m sorry, you always go with the better pitcher……..the fact that that has to be explained to him is pathetic.
Bronx Jeers
October 20th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
“Girardi also laughed off the Rivera/spitter story, pointing out that the spitball is designed to dart and move unpredictably – or the exact opposite of what Rivera’s cutter does, which is bite consistently.”
Well this really puts a damper on my plans to open a special spitball training camp in Latin America.
I was even going to do studies on which foods gave the best spit for a baseball
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And that eliminates Mo as your pitching coach.
JG29
They had no chance to get Halladay. So get real !
“I blame cashman for the pitching situation. It was obvious to everyone that the Yankees needed another quality starter at the deadline but Cashman did absolutely nothing. Boy it would have been nice seeing Roy Halliday pitching tonight”
this is a joke right?
if not, please go away
“trisha
Yeah maybe this Mo story will fire up the Yankee players.”
Wouldn’t that be great, seeing that the story allegedly started in LA (at least that’s what I thought I read.)
What great payback that would be!!!
I can’t think of another player who garners the respect across the game that Mo does (a nonYankee player that is). I’m trying to think of how I would feel if a player (nonYankee) for whom I had the greatest respect was accused of doing something like that. I really think I would be incensed for the player!
Can you think of some player (not on the Yankees) who is really respected the way Mo is?
Must be a fire under a bridge somewhere, because the trolls are out in force… this is what happens when they don’t sweep the postseason, I guess…
one true thing mike fran just said, how will hughes and robertson feel after being pulled mid-inning?
undermines confidence. hope it doesn’t carry over to rest of series.
Today’s game is an omen of good things to come. Today’s game will start on Mickey Mantle’s 78th birthday and end on or near Whitey Ford’s 81st birthday on 21 October. Can’t ask for better karma than that.
mick: If they are that soft, they shouldn’t be pitching in the post-season.
It shouldn’t affect them at all. Today is today. Anything before should be a distant memory, especially for a reliever. If they learn nothing else from Mo, that’s what they should learn.
Francesa is blaming the Yankees for screwing with Chamberlin’s head. He feels they should have left good enough alone. Now 3-5 miles per hr are missing from Joba’s fastball.
i’ve said all along that Girardi would overmanage us into a couple of losses in this postseason and yesterday the Yanks couldn’t overcome his Larussaness because we didn’t have the last at bat…
everyteam that enters the postseason wants every hitter in their lineup to be hotter than fire but it generally doesn’t work that way…as far as Cano is concerned i see him taking more pitches early in the count in an attempt to be more patient and i think that he’s leaving some hittable pitches out there.
hopefully the Yanks take the game out of Girardi’s hands by getting a lead early and then adding on runs when they get the oppurtunity.
SJ44- while i agree that Girardi would be on the hotseat big time if he loses this series as he clearly has the better team, i doubt that he would be fired instead he would be made to play out next year without an extension to his deal and a lame duck manager in NY is a tough spot to be in.
i’ve said all along that Girardi would overmanage us into a couple of losses in this postseason and yesterday the Yanks couldn’t overcome his Larussaness because we didn’t have the last at bat…
everyteam that enters the postseason wants every hitter in their lineup to be hotter than fire but it generally doesn’t work that way…as far as Cano is concerned i see him taking more pitches early in the count in an attempt to be more patient and i think that he’s leaving some hittable pitches out there.
hopefully the Yanks take the game out of Girardi’s hands by getting a lead early and then adding on runs when they get the oppurtunity.
SJ44- while i agree that Girardi would be on the hotseat big time if he loses this series as he clearly has the better team, i doubt that he would be fired instead he would be made to play out next year without an extension to his deal and a lame duck manager in NY is a tough spot to be in.
CC will lead us to victory tonight. I believe in the big guy.
one true thing mike fran just said, how will hughes and robertson feel after being pulled mid-inning?
undermines confidence. hope it doesn’t carry over to rest of series.
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Hughes was pulled for Mo, so that is understandable. Robertson on the other hand might be feeling a bit confused.
Everyone knows that Mariano would never break the rules about throwing spitballs. He is, afterall, Panamanian and knows the rules about applying foreign substances to the baseballs.
When i got in my car to leave work, “I Wanna Rock” was playing on the radio. That means Tex is going to have a huge night
I missed this, but apparently Francesca believes Mo spit on the ball. The fact that this loser would even believe such a thing about Mo makes me sick to my stomach. I hope this doesn’t follow Mo around
I like Girardi, but that comment about winning 162 games based on being 100% correct as a manager is just idiotic. A bad decision can help your team lose a close game, like last night, but “being right” alone is not going to overwhelm the opposition. But I guess that’s Girardi’s problem (right now) — he actually thinks he can beat the Angels by being clever.
I understand using scouting reports and playing percentages, but there’s also something to be said for paying attention to who’s hot and who’s not. Aceves has been less than sharp during the playoffs.
undermines confidence. hope it doesn’t carry over to rest of series.
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Gaudin wishes he had this problem.
although girardi defended himself today, i am hoping he has calmed down through all of this.
i believe he has been overaggressive to keep this team on their toes and wake them up from previous playoff failures.
i think he got his point across and maybe guys like tex, cano, melky and swish will relax tonight and we can all have a good laugh about it afterwards.
my only complaints with girardi is the love affair with joba…why, he is better then he was but still not lock dwon…
the robertson move was illogical on many grounds from buring out the pen in that you only have gaudin left if the game goes on and on to why bring in a guy who is no more effective then the guy you are replacing.
the last move was pinch hitting for gardner with hairston, is jerry hariston some great hitteer. i do not change the lineup today but if melky does nothing today put gardner in thursday against the righty….
girardi always gets defensive when he is wrong the aceves mve cannot be defended….
When i got in my car to leave work, “I Wanna Rock” was playing on the radio. That means Tex is going to have a huge night.
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It means Tex is gonna have a huge night, but it also means that the radio DJ has an incredibly bad taste in music.
yea mo spit on a ball on the mound in front of 50,000 people!!!!!!!!!!!!anyone who thinks this is a complete moron…
watch mo’s routine it is always the same, he always spits just like he did yesterday..
people should get a life…..
LOL and Francesca apparently said earlier that Joba and Phil are unreliable. Joba yes – Phil? I want to know what this man is smoking
“I have lost all faith in Girardi. I’m sorry, you always go with the better pitcher……..the fact that that has to be explained to him is pathetic.”
Betsy, correct me if I’m wrong but I think you were one of many posters here who went ballistic because Melancon was called up and hadn’t gotten into any games. Every night when Joe went to his pen, people here were CRAZED when it wasn’t Melancon. It didn’t matter that we weren’t involved in any blowouts and Joe was trying to take the lead in the division. Posters wanted Melancon, and therefore Joe didn’t know what he was doing.
Then of course when Melacon didn’t do a good job the same group wanted his head.
Did Girardi consult with anyone here on any of the moves he made this season that got the Yankee 103 wins? Weren’t there a lot of moves with which you disagreed? And the Yankees ended up winning a lot of those games anyway?
Do you REALLY think Joe doesn’t know that he needs to go with the better pitcher? Last night tells me he thought Aceves was the better pitcher for the hitter coming up. I really don’t think he doesn’t know that he needs to go with the “better pitcher.” Obviously not everyone’s “better pitcher” is always going to be the same as Joe’s pick.
how can the yanks play with joba’s mind when he is a moron with little or no cognitive ability already?
joba will shakeoff any catcher he has at least 50% of the time.. the bench should call pitches when he is in there………
i’d say the over/under on how many times McCarver mentions the Mo spit ball incident is 3. who wants the under?
the other phil
zach
i hope you both are right.
relievers are a different breed and a short memory is essential.
i think they will bounce back. just funny how girardi has changed his philosophy from the regular season.
it looks like panic, maybe it’s his plan.
It’s rather ridiculous for somebody that complains about everything to say “my only complaints with girardi is the love affair with joba”.
“Francesa had stat that they’ve scored 27 runs this postseason and 11 or 12? via the HR. Not good.”
So hitting HR’s is not good. I’ll need to remember to boo anytime the Yankees score via the HR.
“I want to know what this man is smoking”
Apparently he uses Coke……Diet Coke.
Ledger_Yankees Mariano in middle of meeting with reporters: “Excuse me guys, I’ve gotta spit.” We laughed. –Carig
10 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
Does this ring a bell? first and second no one out, Cano, Swisher and Melk choke. De ja vu all over again later on, same result. A different result and Girardi would still be coach of the year in some minds and undefeated in the playoffs.
Zach in Port Jeff
October 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
When i got in my car to leave work, “I Wanna Rock” was playing on the radio. That means Tex is going to have a huge night.
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It means Tex is gonna have a huge night, but it also means that the radio DJ has an incredibly bad taste in music.
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Sirius 80s on 8. Its supposed to be bad
not much to say here except Go Yankees
“I want to know what this man is smoking”
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…and by the looks of things…ribs. lots of ribs.
I am curious to see if Fox will even mention Spit-Gate.
Part of me thinks they’ll give Mo and the sport the respect they deserve and not bring it up.
But then again, it is FOX…
Even if he stayed with Robertson, what in the late innings showed you that we were going to find a way to push a run across?
Francesca just can’t admit he was/is wrong about Joba,he needs to just give up already….Joba has been 94-97 this postseason out the ‘pen so that’s plenty….most people fail to realize that Joba over this last year has incorporated a two seamer and a cutter to complement his four seamer. many teams when you see the 91,92,93 mph heater it’s the two seamer….
an argument can be made that the Girardi/Eiland were wrong to make Joba develop the two seamer and throw the four seamer less in an effort the keep his pitch counts down and go deeper into games but they are trying to make Joba a complete pitcher and in the long run he’ll be better for it…i would like to see Joba go back to using the four seamer more and go back to that strikeout mentality that he had last year but he’s trying to follow their instruction and is still a 23yr old work in progress…
just for *$h and giggles somebody should tell mike to look up Halladay’s/Schilling’s/Randy’s or Carpenters #’s when they were 23yrs old….Joba and Phil will be fine and next year i think you will see adominant year from Joba as a STARTER IN THE ROTATION
A lot of good discussion on MLB Tonight, including from players who have played the game and who have been in the postseason. They’re talking about managing in the postseason, for anyone who wants to take a listen.
just sold my ticket for more than 3 times the face value to a dumb angel fan (a friend of mine) hahah. With friends like me who needs enemies. I couldnt make it to L.A. to see the game tonight, work got in the way!
Hughes is reliable because he belongs in the bullpen. He is the future closer. His 5.45 era will not cut it as a starter. Chamberlain will win 15-20 games next year he will be a normal starter (180-190ip). He started pitching bad when the yankees started to shorten and skip his starts.
Rishi October 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Ledger_Yankees Mariano in middle of meeting with reporters: “Excuse me guys, I’ve gotta spit.” We laughed. –Carig
10 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
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Why does everyone think that Francesca has some much knowledge and that he is right all the time ?
The guy is just a radio personality.
sorry- so much knowledge. Very tired today.
Why does Joba get off so lightly for last night ? If he didn’t get hit solidly, Jorge’s HR would have been the game winner.
I wouldn’t use Joba again for the rest of the postseason except for junk innings with a large lead.
Little difference between him as a starter and out of the bullpen.
Chamberlain has pitched in 5 of the 6 games and has allowed one run, so, now, he’s unreliable? Yes, he’s allowed 5 hits, but, then, none of the other bullpenners have been perfect, either.
Hughes is reliable because he belongs in the bullpen. He is the future closer. His 5.45 era will not cut it as a starter.
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So it begins
UPDATE, 6:27 p.m.: It’s Chad again. Mariano Rivera just talked about the spit controversy. “I laughed about the whole thing,” he said. “What would I get mad for? I care about what the fans think about me, but if somebody has followed my career for all of those years, I would have to have a lot of spit to spit for a lot of years.”
The audio’s not great, but we’re going to try to get it posted to the blog in a minute or two. Rivera was actually really funny. He put in a piece of gum just before talking to us, and at one point he actually had to turn away from the group of reporters. ”Excuse me,” he said. “I have to spit.”
Francesca is on the radio to do one thing and one thing only: get ratings. So he says things that, while he may or may not believe them, will undoubtedly send fans into a tizzy and get them to call their friends and say “are you listening to this idiot?? You gotta hear what stupid thing he said about the Yanks!” or “Hey! Francesca is saying what I’m thinking! Check it out!”
Divisive radio = ratings. See political talk radio.
Ledger_Yankees Mariano in middle of meeting with reporters: “Excuse me guys, I’ve gotta spit.” We laughed. –Carig
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I think after he closes the game tonight for the win. He should meet with reporters eating crackers. “Im trying to kick this siliva problem”.
3 (formerly S.o.S.) October 20th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I think after he closes the game tonight for the win. He should meet with reporters eating crackers. “Im trying to kick this siliva problem”.
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I think he should spit on the Angel logo behind home plate. But he’s too classy for that. Me, on the other hand, wouldn’t be sPitting on it…
posada up 5th tonight….it’s about time, although I love Matsui, why not a switcher in the 5 spot.
might also keep joe from removing posada late innings for the overrated pinch runner.
A writer once asked Don Sutton if he applied a foreign substance to a baseball. The pitcher answered by saying, ” That’s not true at all. Vaseline is manufactured right here in the United States. “
“Even if he stayed with Robertson, what in the late innings showed you that we were going to find a way to push a run across?”
Well that too. I really hate extra inning games, and I especially hate them when we’re the road team.
XLJ, I think you have the shock of your life in store next year. Phil is reliable because he’s a good pitcher………
Carl
October 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Even if he stayed with Robertson, what in the late innings showed you that we were going to find a way to push a run across?
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Exactly. The way the offense looked yesterday I think we would have been waiting a long time for them to score a run.
It’s insulting that Francesca would even think that Mo would even consider cheating………….that’s what bugs me. What a jerk.
Enjoy the game all. Hopefully I will be here after the game celebrating with all of you.
GO YANKEES!!!
The Yanks may have their hands full with Kazmir tonight. Check out this graphic showing his dominance in the last month or two in the regular season.
http://visualbaseball.wordpres.....ott-kazmir
Betsy
why do you take Francesa so seriously?
MLB is ripping Manny right now for ditching his team mates and the game after Torre removed him in the 9th for defensive purposes.
OMG I just saw the video of the spit ball garbage on YES. The spit went right by the ball. What the hell are people looking at? lol
That wasn’t on the ball. It was kind of an illusion, as the camera was showing it from the side.
Meaning the ball was likely a few inches from his face/mouth towards the side. but the side angle makes it look as if he’s spitting directly over the ball.
Unbelievable!
can we please not start with the Hughes is the future closer nonsense!
he’s not a reliever he’s a starter and will be the 5th starter next year.period.
The Yanks drafted Melancon to be the future closer and as such i think next year they will work him into the late inning mix with the hope that he locks down the 8th inning “dominant set up role that Phil assumed temporarily this year.
Joba and Hughes will be in the starting rotation next year gents!
Bob Lorenz has a sense of humor, as he “salivates at Kay’s take on the Mo story….”
Question-Anyone else have issues with this blog using Firefox? If I want to refresh the page, I have to hit refresh 2-3 times for it to load properly. It’s been happening for a while for me now. Works fine with other browsers, but I like using Firefox for everything.
Just wondering.
Regarding Francesa-don’t take him too seriously.
Mo’s story is such a non story. Its ridiculous in my opinion, because guys like Mo don’t need to cheat.
I have no problems with Firefox with this blog
S.A. -
i use firefox and havent had any problems at all. Chk your internet connection or see if you have the latest version of firefox.
po hitting over 400 vs kazmir….light him up…end all the nonsense
Mick, it’s just that I would be ticked off at anyone thinking Mo would cheat……..
Enough with the nonsense, we have a mission to handle and that mission relaunches tonight in Anaheim. Enough babbling about pen/starter, guys who suck, and spitballs, we’re going to a dogfight tonght and its time to lock it down and focus.
Also, no second guessing if CC falters tonight. CC on 3 days is better than Gaudin on 3 weeks 99 times out of 100.
Let’s go.
that’s fran just lookin to get a rise out of ya…looks like it worked:)
some of the stuff that alleges to be baseball knowledge on this blog is such crap…
No matter what, Brett Gardner can do no wrong. He can run, yes, has good range in the outfield but also no power, poor judgement on flyballs, and a very mediocre arm. If he gets thrown out stealing a base, it’s not his fault, it’s the manager, the opposing catcher, but never Brett, after all he’s ‘gritty’ and ‘gutty’.
No matter what, Robbie Cano can do no right. Forget the .320 batting average, gold glove work around 2nd, and the probability he will be a perennial All Star for years to come,it doesn’t matter, he can’t hit with RISP, is lazy, and doesn’t give a crap. Forget the triple in game 2 that put a run on the board, forget all the terrific defensive plays he’s made all year, it doesn’t matter.
No matter what, Jorge Posada can do no right behind the plate. Forget the post season success in games he catches, if a pitcher gives up a hit it’s Jorge’s fault, if a pitch bounces in the dirt and gets away, it’s Jorge’s fault. Yesterday, Pettitte missed the target to Guerrero by at least a foot (Jorge was almost standing up in anticipation of a pitch above the strike zone) but it’s Jorge’s fault.
No matter what, any pitcher who came up through Scranton can do no wrong, whether it be Robertson, Melancon, Dunn, and pick any other name you wish. Robertson has been great in the post season and Girardi shouldn’t have pulled him last night, but I wish I had a dollar for every time Melancon was called the next great reliever on this blog when he can’t sniff the strike zone most of the time.
Hairston can’t hit except he got the key hit to win game 2.
Cabrera sucks except he’s gotten a disproportionate amount of clutch hits all season. That’s why he’s still in the lineup.
Swisher sucks but he’s a streaky hitter who had 29 HR and about 90 RBI’s in the regular season. He has trouble with Weaver so if Girardi was ever going to sit him it would have been yesterday.
Many of you don’t deserve to be Yankees fans, it’s almost enough to find another team to root for.
iiicollies and michelle b.
Thanks!
Lemme check and see if I have the latest version of FF.
Really though..can anyone think of another team that works everybody, except GB7, up the way the Yanks do?
It is incredible, why is it?
Every game is a psychodrama all year long, I just don’t understand it…
http://deadspin.com/5385945/sp.....s/gallery/
Rivera didn’t spit on the ball
50 your IQ-
see what I mean about getting worked up.
yankees better win this series…i got game 1 world seires tickets
Ah. I finally figured out what the problem was w/FF. One of my add-ons
“Its ridiculous in my opinion, because guys like Mo don’t need to cheat.”
We didn’t think guys like Arod and Andy needed to cheat either.
Still, the spit story is garbage.
Mick,
I dont think its psychodrama. I think its passion. People on this board are passionate about their team and their opinions. It’s what makes this board so fun to come to night after night. The problem lies in the people who forget that other people are allowed to have opinions. Those people are the ones who get all high and mighty on people and then the stupid retorts come in to play. I think most people on this board mean well, and i know one thing is certain, we can never see or feel a person’s emotions through a blog, so sometimes comments are meant to be sarcastic or funny but are taking completely wrong.
one thing about this blog…there is certainly a lack of sense of humor…maybe it’s the age difference.
Andy didn’t really cheat in my opinion. He was just looking to get off the DL and be healthy.
Cheating to me is when you’re looking for an edge-an advantage over everyone else. This was not the case with Pettitte. So he says and I believe him.
paco – point noted.
Tex owns Kazmir. He needs to show up in this game. No more excuses.
I don’t think anyone in the world thinks Mo spit on that ball. Even the kooks that put it out there in the first place.
I’m a little shocked at Chad’s reaction, though…Mo clearly spit to the left of the ball.
Here’s some screen shots:
http://www.halosheaven.com/200.....-doctoring
(you just have to ignore the part about Fox cutting away as they realize what’s happening. And the halo (spit) above his hand is actually the logo on Scioscia’s right sleeve).
michelle b
funny how i typed that without seeing your post..also by psychodrama, I meant the actual games, all the twists and turns…but it does get nuts in here too.
I just ran out and snagged two grande lattes. Drink one after the 3rd and one after the 6th and I’ll be ready to go until 1:30 AM, just in case the game goes 5 hours.
so sometimes comments are meant to be sarcastic or funny but are taking completely wrong.
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Just for the record. Im on the trying to be funny side. But seem to bomb 7 or 10 times. Thank god its a baseball blog where .300 is a success. I will blame the old people here for failing so often.
Trevor
October 20th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Andy didn’t really cheat in my opinion. He was just looking to get off the DL and be healthy.
Cheating to me is when you’re looking for an edge-an advantage over everyone else. This was not the case with Pettitte. So he says and I believe him.
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As much as I like Andy that was cheating.
It is illegal to use HGH.
By using it he was trying to recover faster than by letting it heal normally.
“Tex owns Kazmir. He needs to show up in this game. No more excuses.”
This sort of implies Teixeira has made excuses. I haven’t heard any. He’s slumping a bit. It happens. We should be happy he’s professional enough not to carry his batting woes to the field.
S.A.–Serenity Now
I have the same problem.
the media uses NY as the whipping boy for the entire country…why this anti-NY bias…I guess NY is the sensationalism capital of the world by leaps and bounds.
3
is that your age or IQ?
j/k
Regarding Sun Devil’s point that the Yankees have never swept an ALCS, not even in 1998 or 1999, it’s a good one, which I’ve been trying to console myself with — even though it’s not technically correct, since the 1981 team swept Oakland in the ALCS. Of course, that was 3 out of 5. The 1999 team came the closest to postseason perfection, I think; they went 11-1 with their only loss the Pedro vs. Clemens blowout in the ALCS.
mick-
wasnt trying to bust your balls. just so tired of the lack of optimism on this board and then the people who completely jump off the deep end on people who are just stating their opinion.
I try to be as sarcastic as possible on this board, trying to keep up with Nick in S.F. is very tiring.
Mick, get ready for an anti NY slant from Philly fans. They have already started chanting “Yankees suck” in the stands and the series hasnt even started yet. Plus McCarver has ties to the Phillies as we know. The NY bias has just begun.
the best part of CC pitching..he can go deep into games…Hopefully no bullpen decisions by Mr. Wizard
ken
why do everybody hate us?
I just want to see some respectable at bats. If I see the same thing like I saw in Game 3 then I know we are in trouble.
bad feeling all around about this game. Kendrick and Oliver. tough combo.
philly is probably the town most like us
“Also, no second guessing if CC falters tonight. CC on 3 days is better than Gaudin on 3 weeks 99 times out of 100. ”
Agree..You got to put all on CC…if we lose tonight a lot of pressure on AJ..not good…this is BIG game..
I would gladly welcome any Philly anti-Yankees slant. Cuz that means we would be locking horns in the WS!
I would like to see some foul balls & more foul balls from the yanks off kazmir & jete has to lead us to victory today.
I like the fact that everyone hates the yanks….it makes it fun when we win!
I always thought mo was clean. Now he joins our long list of cheaters like AROD, Pettitte, Giambi, Sheffield, Clemens, Posada, Knoblauch, etc.
Sad, really.
Jim the VT Yankeefan
I have the same problem.
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I think my NoScript add-on was causing the problem. I disabled it and things are back to normal(refreshing the page)
HGH is not “illegal,” it’s simply something that requires a prescription. I also think it’s a misnomer to call it a PED, since it’s never been proven that it does *anything* to enhance athletic performance. In fact, I don’t believe it’s even been proven that it really helps people heal faster. A lot of its reputation may be based on myth.
Anyway, why aren’t cortisone shots banned? After all, they are steroids, and they really do enhance performance! Corticosteroids, anabolic steroids, who cares? So far as I’m concerned, any pitcher who’s ever had one has technically used a PED.
hey guys. I need to find out how many times the phillies won the WS…anybody have a website?
a spit ball is not when the pitcher literally spits on the ball. that is not a spit ball…
Ken
What was up with the Yankees suck chants from Philly fans ?
None of the postseason teams have clinched anything yet.
enough –
remember, even if we lose games 4 and 5……they have to beat andy or cc in the bronx one more time to win this thing.
I hope you’re joking, Lollar. If not, you should get down on your knees and apologize to Mo.
Can our vaunted offense please put up more than 5 runs?? Maybe our pitchers can have a couple of innings of low leverage situations…
michelle b
“the people who completely jump off the deep end on people who are just stating their opinion.”
did you mean GB7?
phils won in 1980 and last year..WHY are we talking about the phils already..can we win this series first!!!
Lollar: go away. You are a fool.
I live / work in Philly and everyone thinks it is a done deal that the yanks will play the phils in the series. They are all banking on it because they want to be able to sell their tickets for $$$$$$$
mick
Is that short for mickey mouse? j/k
Seriously. Here i was trying to go with 3 rather than S.o.S. so gb7 wouldnt confuse sultan of swat for the other sos. Your making it hard to make that change. Thanks.
remind me..how is Posada a cheater????
“philly is probably the town most like us”
Don’t ever say that again. I can’t stand that city and their stupid sports teams.
The only team I can tolerate is the Phillies a little. Only because there is no rivalry with them and the Yankees.
Being a Giant Knick Ranger fan I hate the Eagles Sixers and Flyers.
NO philly or world series talk it is bad MOJO..like in 2003 before game 7 the red sox painted a world series banner on on the field at fenway park…or the steelers booked hotel rooms for the super bowl before they lost to the pats…BAD MOJO
Without looking it up, Valerie, I believe that 1980 was the only time the Phillies won the World Series before last year. I know they were swept by the Yankees in 1950, and I think they also lost to the Red Sox in 1915.
“philly is probably the town most like us”
If by most like us you mean “10000x more negative than we can ever be”
Before the game someone needs to glue Girardi down to the bench and give him a valium.
i got my time zones mixed up and thought the game was already on…i feel like john sterling
anything I can do to antagonize, it’s my pleasure, especially if it ticks off gb7, can we call you the Babe?
thanks, Donna L. I can’t find a definite answer, as weird as that sounds. One site said they’ve won 6 times…
“Before the game someone needs to glue Girardi down to the bench and give him a valium.”
ALSO TAKE away that stupid book of his….burn it or hide it…
Donna L-
I was a little short, I meant to say was no yankee championship team has ever sweep an ALCS. the 1981 team didn’t go on to the world series. But it says alot that the 98 team, perhaps the best team in history, lost two ALDS games, including a home game, to the mediocre Indians.
We should also keep in mind that we’ve won 8 world series in the past 50 years, and only two of those were sweeps (98,99). Therefore, we’re likely to lose a game or two in the world series.
S.o.S.=Sultan of Spit?
Valeri the phills won 2 titles…6 nl championships
6 times? noo, they only one last year and 1980
We play anaheim in 30 minutes, not philly. We don’t play philly as far as I know. They are not on our schedule at this point. If we are on theirs, that’s fine. Unfortunately, we play real teams so WS births aren’t automatic.
*won
“philly is probably the town most like us”
JasonR
If by most like us you mean “10000x more negative than we can ever be”
Years of losing will do that to a team
Thanks guys! I love this blog…you guys are awesome!
they won 6 NL championships..2 world series…..in 1980 and last year….
NY sells and that is what Fox does, they sell NY.
It’s good for ratings.
they have good cheesesteaks though
3 mick 3!! Poeple would mistake me for some hot chick. Im a hot dude. Way different.
Have a good night fellas and GO YANKEES!!
Thanks S.A.
“6 times? noo, they only one last year and 1980″
Wrong.
1915
1950
1980
1983
1993
2008
sun devil–”I was a little short, I meant to say was no yankee championship team has ever sweep an ALCS. the 1981 team didn’t go on to the world series. But it says alot that the 98 team, perhaps the best team in history, lost two ALDS games, including a home game, to the mediocre Indians.”
The 98 team lost two games in alcs…they swept the rangers in alds
3 as in Babe Ruth 3
Mark Grace looks like a skinnier Tom Arnold.
Mark Grace is an idiot…and I never thought I would say that.
Enough Pitching Changes October 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
“Before the game someone needs to glue Girardi down to the bench and give him a valium.”
ALSO TAKE away that stupid book of his….burn it or hide it…
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I’m sure he has backup copies. I bet Mariano or Damon have already done that.
I am officially no longer upset about game 3. Almost Game 4 Time! Let’s go yanks
lol mel. Sultan of Saliva.
Good night mel. One week before we become foes.
I’ll say this again slowly…
The phills won the NL Pennant 6 times in 08, 93, 83, 80, 50, 15…
THEY won the world series twice….
are we clear yet? this is pretty open and shut
“NY sells and that is what Fox does, they sell NY.”
Yankees/Mets was one of the five lowest rated WS ever. FOX must have had bad salesmen back in 2000.
“Mark Grace is an idiot…and I never thought I would say that.”
Really? I think I said that roughly 500 times in October 2001 alone.
world series champs in 1980 and last year
Hey…JasonR have you ever seen that Joe Carter clip of that walk off home run in the WS?
Prediction for tonite…
You will see a loose Yankee team run roughshod on the Angels tonite.
S.o.S.,
Oh it’ll be on!
How’s the desert? You sure you’re not closer to Phoenix than Cali?
Jason R – is that a list of years the phillies won the WS or made it to the WS??????
waldo
they keep trying though…all the negative talk attracts the anti-NY crowd across the country…hence mccarver and buck
Jason R-
Wrong.
1915
1950
1980
1983
1993
2008
WRONG!
1915 – Boston
1950 – our very own New York Yankees
1980- Phillies
1983 – Orioles
1993 – Blue Jays
2008 – Phillies
0 hours and 21 minutes until Game 4!!!
I am repeating myself:
“I’ll say this again slowly…
The phills won the NL Pennant 6 times in 08, 93, 83, 80, 50, 15…
THEY won the world series twice…1980 and last year
are we clear yet? this is pretty open and shut”
It’s good that the weather is good in SoCal for the next two games, because the forecast for NY this Saturday is – surprise! – cold and rainy.
I really hope they wrap it up Thursday night.
it’s getting funnier in here.
“world series champs in 1980 and last year”
Speaking of TV ratings, the Phillies have the distinction of playing in both the highest rated (1980 32.8) and lowest rated (2008 8.4) World Series.
Jesus!!
ENOUGH ABOUT THE PHILLIES!!!
It’s very bad form to assume anything up 2 -1 in a 7 game series.
Now get on your knees and beg forgiveness for such transgression!!
1915
1950
1980
1983
1993
2008
The phills were in all those world series and won only in 1980 and last year..
why are we still discussing this..
i agree enough about the phills..we are just trying to clear up some facts
we need offense tonight
offense
offense
offense
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
“Jason R – is that a list of years the phillies won the WS or made it to the WS??????”
Made it to the World Series. Enough Pitching Changes wrote they won the NL pennant six times and Ed said “No, they only won in 1980 last year”
You know what’s great? Reading comprehension
over under:
innings pitched by CC 6 2/3
Giradi pitching changes 4
Enough Pitching Changes
October 20th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
world series champs in 1980 and last year
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Impressive numbers, there. Twice in 105 years.
im done now, he said i was wrong, i wasn’t wrong.. can’t wait to hear susan waldmannnns voice
Just when i try to get out, they pull me back in.
mick
I got it the first time. I will meet you halfway. the bambino. Sounds tougher.
mel,
hour 15 to san diego. 4 from AZ. Feels just as bad though.
for the last time GO YANKEES.
If the people who are thinking that Mo used a spit ball actually knew anything about baseball, they might be dangerous.
That won’t stop the idiots from ranting and raving, especially Twins and Angels fans. (The whole thing about this started by a Twins fan.)
If they knew anything at all about baseball they would know the way the cutter and the spitball actually work when they are thrown.
I was responding to Valerie Jason, im not here to work on my reading comprehension
I just seen the line up I like that Posada is behind Arod
Angels tie the series at 2-2 tonight as CC struggles with his control due to the short rest and the Angels bullpen (Palmer, Bulger, Fuentes, Oliver, Santana, and Jepsen) continues its mastery of the Yankees offense.
has everyone seen the pic of arod and jeter?
http://ballhype.com/story/fani.....rek-jeter/
Fox is trying to run the Yankees can’t beat the Angels especially in Anaheim angle. Mark Grace is such a tool.
i never said anyone was wrong…I just said i was right
Karros has to do something about his hair
again about spit balls..a spit ball is not when a pitcher literally spits on the ball…usually you are licking your fingers or using some sort foriegn substance..you don’t spit right on the ball
Can someone tell me why FOX is orchestrating the smiling, happy idiot style in their studio analyst team?
My bad. Lost my way myy last post was meant for a Yankee blog. Sorry Philly fanatics.
“I was responding to Valerie Jason, im not here to work on my reading comprehension”
Apparently, you’re not here to work on apostrophes either
I kid of course. I’m not here to quibble over Philadelphia’s sad championship history. Especially since we’re not playing them.
Goosebumps already and we haven’t started
10 minutes to first pitch?
Mark Grace is such an idiot. The guy said that the Angels would win Game 2 and look what happened. Now he predicts that they will even this up tonight because Kazmir is like Cy young.
“Apparently, you’re not here to work on apostrophes either”
Oh what you don’t put periods after your sentences. Gimme a break, didn’t know JasonR was grading my blog replys.
thanks for all the help guys!
Tonight the Yanks have to overcome the Wang factor….His loss now comes into play………..
True spitballs are hard to control and even harder on the elbow. The pitch dives faster than a sinker or splitter. It’s not thrown like a normal pitch. It’s squeezed out of the fingers, like a water melon seed. The squeezing is what’s so hard on the elbow.
who cares what mark grace says…
LA sucks, enough said
Mark Grace reminds me of the southwestern version of Curt Schilling. Self promoting big mouth who apparently isn’t rooting for the Yankees! I guess they never get over that envy. One world series under your belt – or six – isn’t quite enough to feel like you’ve really arrived.
PLEASE Yankees do a number on the Angels tonight. I want something to shut up Grace. His stupidity rivals Buck and McCarver.
GO YANKEES!!!
Let’s go Yankees and CC
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
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Neither- Do what Larry David did in one episode of “Curb”
Pick up a hooker so that you can get to the game faster-It’ll cost you one way or the other however!!!!! LOL
“Tonight the Yanks have to overcome the Wang factor….His loss now comes into play………..”
I forgot wang was on the team..
the video of A-Rod and Jeter is a million times better. Jeter looks at A-Rod like WHAT???
Lets go Yankees!!!!
“Oh what you don’t put periods after your sentences. Gimme a break, didn’t know JasonR was grading my blog replys.”
Ed, I’m kidding. Lighten up.
I think CC will get the job done and the Yankees will hit Kazmir. And yes, I hope so too!
See y’all later. Keep those good vibes directed toward the Yankee dugout!
again who cares about mark grace
“Oh what you don’t put periods after your sentences. Gimme a break, didn’t know JasonR was grading my blog replys. ”
That’s “replies”.
As long as were grading each other.
they can call it anything but “Yankee Nation”
yanks should handle kazmir..high pitch count lack of command…but this is a big big game..a tied up series with AJ burnett pitching on the road does not make me comfortable..
Dudes! Pena hid me in one of Gatorade coolers. I’ll keep quiet, especially in the late innings, and everything will be cool. Yankees 5 Angels 3
Pat M. October 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Tonight the Yanks have to overcome the Wang factor….His loss now comes into play………..
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What a tough season for Wang. Would be nice to have pre-injury 2008 Wang on the mound for one of these games.
“As long as were grading each other.”
That’s we’re, as long as we are still on this.
Actually I missed an apostrophe myself.
Forget the grades!
“That’s “replies”.
As long as were grading each other.”
That was funny
Enough Pitching Changes
October 20th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
i never said anyone was wrong…I just said i was right
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“As long as were grading each other.”
I do believe you meant “we’re.”
Enjoy the game all! Go Yanks!!
Let’s see if Tex, Posada and Melky live up to their lifetime good averages against Kazmir.
Interesting that gardner hits lefties better than Cabrera at a .291 clip.
Kazmir throws a lot of pitches and lasts 5-6 innings. However getting to their bullpen hasn’t really worked out too well. What’s a Bulger???
how many times has the word apostrophe been used in this talkback? I bet more in the last 5 minutes then during the entire baseball season..
Girardi’s Binder October 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Dudes! Pena hid me in one of Gatorade coolers. I’ll keep quiet, especially in the late innings, and everything will be cool. Yankees 5 Angels 3
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I laughed
Let’s go Derek! Let’s go Yankees!
hope CC can go 8 and get the save from mo…
Yankee Trader
October 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RANDOM QUESTION OF THE DAY: If you’re stuck in a traffic jam, is it worse to drive along the shoulder or go solo in the HOV lane?
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Neither- Do what Larry David did in one episode of “Curb”
Pick up a professional so that you can get to the game faster-It’ll cost you one way or the other however!!!!! LOL
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That episode was so funny. And the irony… Larry was going to a baseball game
Yankees Fan Living in Hostile Territory (BoSox area) October 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
the video of A-Rod and Jeter is a million times better. Jeter looks at A-Rod like WHAT??
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Between that video and the Mo spit conspiracy the amount of ribbing going on in the Yankee clubhouse is probably off the charts today.
Even though we aren’t facing elimination I think tonight is a must-win game. I have no confidence in AJ in a big game on the road with the series tied 2-2.
I am cautiously optimistic about tonight…
Pat M.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Tonight the Yanks have to overcome the Wang factor….His loss now comes into play…”
That’s an excellent point Pat M.
I’ve actually been torturing myself about how absolutely incredible this year could’ve been (yes even better than it already has been) if we actually had a healthy Chien Ming Wang of 2007 or similar vintage…
Specifically speaking I think Wang (Pre-Lisfranc injury) was quite the formidable advisary for the Angels yes?
It would almost be unfair if we had CC/Wang/AJ/Andy
Whatever….
If we could get a hit out of somebody not named Alex, Derek, or Johnny I could feel a lot better about Wang or the lack there of a 4th starter not on short rest etc…
A message to Tex,
HIT MOTHERF R
HIT!!!
I think im going to vomit pretty soon! i cant take this postseason!
lets go yankees…time to put the monkey to bed.
Starting the game with Enter Sandman
Interesting choice Anaheim
LETS GO YANKEES!!!
PLAY BALL
is someone’s name Girardi’s Binder?
that is a great name!! love it
who’s fatter: Mike Scioscia or Tommy Lasorda?
Don’t they have any treadmills in LA?
Let’s go Jeter!
I hope someone spills the Gatorade bottles on Girardi’s Binder.
Can he stop calling him Cashmere???
During my car ride home:
Girardi on the radio: Yes, I think everyone will be available out of the pen today. No one through that many pitches.
My dad: ( In good-natured hysterics)- No kidding Joe!
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Ok, no more Girardi jokes. LETS GO YANKS!
So good news-
I figured out which shows I am going to DVR on Thursday night for Game 5 and which shows I am goign to watch online
el cap-i-tan…
Battle yanks battle!
Nice start by Jeter. What’s the stats for when Jeter leads off with a hit?
Oh captain.
oy vey…
F…
That was stupid !
well that went from happy to sad quickly
thank you jeter…..dammit
So what means Johnny home run now right?
Jeter, we needed you on base!
Man, none of that silliness, thank you.
Oh, man!
What are the stats for when Jeter gets caught stealing before the 4th pitch in the game?
it was the best of times…it was the worst of times…
Okay- it would have been a DP anyway
Stop doing that right now Johnny
Sigh…
I guess the Yankees what to continue making stupid choices like yesterday.
Ok, that is shocking I cannot believe the captain got picked off.
A Bad Omen.
Hit and run will ya
that happens when you steal on first movement off a lefty…if he doesnt throw over you got the base
OMG..what a way to blow that inning. not going to panic though.
Not a problem with Jeter running. Got to try making things happen early. They’ve hit the ball hard twice, so far.
Slow him down he’s working crazy fast STEP OUT LIKE THE SOX DID TO JOBA
djsunyc October 20th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
it was the best of times…it was the worst of times…
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LOL!
Well yeah McCarver, he played for them – do you think they might know how to pitch him because of that? Maybe?
I think Tex will end up having a good game. Remember gang that Kazmir has a history of falling apart quickly when he does fall apart. He can breeze along for 4 innings or so and then just give it up.
Okay that’s all. Honest.
Welcome back SJ44
Please keep Kazmir’s pitch count low !
swing at first pitch !
Oh man he kinda “Juiced” that foul ball.
grr
Tex looks a little bit better at the plate.
It is almost like Socia knows what we are doing before we do
dang…tex is lacing them…
Damn woulda been out at the stadium
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SJ44 said earlier he won’t be on tonight.
If any SJ44s pop up do not believe its him for a second
Good at bat so far by Tex
just missed it.
FABULOUS NOW HE’S HIT 2 FOUL BALL HOMERUNS
Tex is smacking the stuffing outta the ball
Knew that was coming
How often does Jeter kill a rally by getting on base, anyway? Gets on base, then gets himself out in the process. Thus endth the momentum.
Tex is increasingly looking really bad in this series.
Teixiera the new Arod
Choke Artist.
That kinda sucked. Oh well, get to work CC
Tex missed about 2 or 3 pitches to hit in that sequence.
Well at least tex hit the ball hard. But he should have swung at the last pitch.
This is insane with Tex. What is going on with this guy? He looks like he did in April
Settle down with the caps lock key.. its annoying.
Did SJ say somewhere earlier that he wouldn’t be posting tonight at all?
tex looked lively for atleast 9 pitches….hope this is signs to come tonight
CC’s ER in first O/U 2
make your pick !
How much would I need to pay to get them to stop playing that DirectTV commercial???
“This is insane with Tex. What is going on with this guy? He looks like he did in April”
It looks like the long layoffs hurt. He’s been out of his rhythm since the beginning of the playoffs.
oh how fans turn on their players…early in the season people hated tex…then they loved him…now they hate him again…quite sad
i dont get it we hit great all season and all of a sudden we cant hit hanging breaking balls or just straight fastballs?????
Some of the hitters in the lineup seem to have no game plan. Just going up there with nothing.
Not good getting picked off, but looks Jeter and Tex seeing the ball pretty well. Good at bat, just froze on a great pitch.
CC’s going to need to be very good. Let’s go, CC. Let’s go, defense!
Let’s go CC!
Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
October 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Settle down with the caps lock key.. its annoying.
Did SJ say somewhere earlier that he wouldn’t be posting tonight at all?
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Yes, I asked him this afternoon around 4ish if it was him last night. It wasn’t.. shocker
He said he would not be on tonight either
what is the over under on the direct TV commcl this game? 6? 8?
Proof that some yankee fans need a scape goat.
tex at least has been a godsend in the field…even if he is hitting like giambi at the plate these days…
I think all of you remember game 4 of ALDS 2006 against the Tigers. Remember that deer caught in the headlight look on our hitters against Jeremy Bonderman?
I have a bad feeling this is that game again, except the pitcher is Kazmir.
I didn’t think it was him, Erica.
Let’s go, CC!
It’s mind blowing how people ( who never played the gane ) throw around the Choke word so loosely…..If you did play ball, you certainly wouldn’t be so prone to use a word that really is taboo in the world of sports…..Chumps
Dear Carsten Charles,
Please shut them out tonight. I know we are asking alot from you but i have faith you will get this done…
Let’s go CC.
CC needs to go at least 7 tonight
1 Pitch, 1 Out
YankeesWFAN: Great nugget RT @MLBONFOX Rosenthal: Tex, Swish, Melky had trouble picking up breaking balls off CF rockpile in day game. Night game 2night.
CC looks like he has lost a few pounds?
All the pitchers he hit hard foul were FBs. and of course takes an off-seed pitch for strike 3.
How can a choke artist hit a game winning home run? Simple, play for Yankee fans.
Some people are crazy. Tex will snap out of it.
I’m nervous about CC. I know he’s done this before, but it feels like so long since a Yankee pitcher pitched successfully on 3 days rest. Remember Wang against Cleveland?
Come on CC
Meant to say pitches.
This is going to be a long night…
Trisha,
Just got in from a late meeting and looked thru the comments and really laughed at yours, simple enough!
“Girardi’s gameplan for tonight should be for all hitters to hit with RISP. It’s brilliant! Sciosa won’t know what hit him!”
Oof 4 pitch walk… although that 3rd pitch looked like a strike.
I hope we can keep Kazmir in the game longer. We got no chance against the Angels lightsout bullpen.
And a Walk for CC.
Short rest?
it was good atbat by tex..however lots of pitches 9 i believe
is ken rosenthal learning disabled?
Pat Sajak has the worst toupee.
“Tex, Swish, Melky had trouble picking up breaking balls off CF rockpile in day game. Night game 2night.”
Isn’t that CF setup supposed to be the batter’s eye?
Do the Angels ever swing?
Man… this is not good. He’s missing his location badly.
What does Erica hate more?
a) Thundersticks
b) Rally Monkies
Did Swish change his socks?
Early on doesn’t have great command of the FB.
“Remember Wang against Cleveland?”
I was trying not to till you brought it back up. thanks a lot. lol
Ford Motor Company
October 20th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
I hope we can keep Kazmir in the game longer. We got no chance against the Angels lightsout bullpen.
And a Walk for CC. Short rest?
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Lights out bullpen? Yeah, Fuentes looke pretty lights out in Game 2, as did Jepsen against Posada yesterday…
Erica- I say it is even.
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Erica – always OPPC
October 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
What does Erica hate more?
a) Thundersticks
b) Rally Monkies
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D) all of the above.
GJ CC
“Pat Sajak has the worst toupee.” great seats though
I am calling it now. No shower for Erica will be needed tonight
jennifer
October 20th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Erica- I say it is even.
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I think you are right. I sure can’t decide
No need to rush, Alex. It’s peglegs!
either ken rosenthal is awful at reading cue cards or he structures his sentences like everything is profound
Spitting, specious rap…
Rivera beyond reproach…
The sun cuts through smog…
Ok end of one even up, good start
Yanks may have fits with Kazmir tonight. Check out this graphic showing their lifetime averages against him:
http://visualbaseball.wordpress.com
Triple Short Of A Cycle
October 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
I am calling it now. No shower for Erica will be needed tonight
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I hope you are right!
I am going to take a stand and go to work stinky tomorrow
Jorge to the mount counter
what is a mount? something to do with horse racing?
One walk and a couple of hard hit balls. Hopefully CC settles down a little. I will take 6 gritty innings (even 5.2) if Girardi uses his bullpen properly and goes to Robertson in the 7th instead of Joba.
PAT M, remember when the Angels used to start Ryan, Singer and Tanana at 5:00 PM games against the Yankees? Made for some really ugly games. Those big fastballs coming out of the center field glare off of the fences.
Man, did I miss CC. Feels like he hasn’t started in weeks. The other guys pitched very well, but there’s a nice comfort factor with the big guy.
Erica – always OPPC October 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
What does Erica hate more?
a) Thundersticks
b) Rally Monkies
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Well at least the rally monkies are accompanied by semi amusing videos that we can mock. The thundersticks are just obnoxious. Also obnoxious: fireworks ( please see end of phillies game last night). I much prefer hearing Frankie sing after a win
couple of hard hit balls and a 4 pitch walk.. not a great inning from CC..
baseballfab
October 20th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Teixiera the new Arod
Choke Artist.
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Yeah, just look at how he “choked” at first just there. What a useless first basemen he is.
“is ken rosenthal learning disabled?”
I’m not too sure about that but whoever is paying him sure is.
Ugh, Yankee Doodle.
Enough with the spamming. Just post it once.
CC was hit hard this inning but right at fielders. I hope his pitches start moving otherwise it’s going to be a bad night.
good inning for cc. lets get the bats started now and give him some run support!
CC will be fine..let’s have some good at bats….
NYY626
October 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Well at least the rally monkies are accompanied by semi amusing videos that we can mock. The thundersticks are just obnoxious. Also obnoxious: fireworks ( please see end of phillies game last night). I much prefer hearing Frankie sing after a win
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That is what makes the rally monkey such a dangerous wildlife creature. It pretends to be all cute and fuzzy. And then it strikes without warning and breaks your heart!!!
Casting Aspersions…
Media machinations…
Mo’s cutter? Kosher!!!!!
Will people stop talking about Wang. Wang was horrible in the 2007 postseason.
what does oppc stand for?
We need a laugher tonight… common offense, WAKE UP!
BB for Alex
If you walk Arod, Jorge can bite
Alex is locked in right now.
alex has the eye of an eagle right now.
GB, I remember being at many of those Twilight games back then…Fast Frankie was impossible to hit back then as he always made life miserable for the Bombers…Dick Williams ruined Tanana…..I think Munson had a lifetime BA of .125 vs. Fast Frankie…..I remember he & Catfish going 11 innings one night, Yanks won big in the 12th…..Martin & Williams, certainly not a pitchers best friend
Enough Pitching Changes
October 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
what does oppc stand for?
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Official Positive Posters Club
who cares what their lifetime averages against Kazmir are?
this kazmir is not the kazmir of 2005-2007.
he used to own the Red Sox too… but they pounded him their last few outings.
dont’ get me wrong, he’s good. but the lifetime avgs dont hold as much water since his injuries hit.
Nice steal.
“Will people stop talking about Wang. Wang was horrible in the 2007 postseason.”
yes he killed the yanks that series..
lets go POSADA
wow arod!!!
Nice steal
Rod > Jete
Whew. It worked that time
Nice at bat against someone that he has trouble hitting.
We should just be glad joe buck isn’t an umpire
Arod’s a one man wrecking crew.
Yanks must have a scouting report on Kazmir. Run on first move.
thank you alex
Now someone drive ARod in!
Yanks getting aggressive
just get him over – at a minimum – please….matsui is an RBI machine
arod showing everyone why he’s the best in baseball…
That is what makes the rally monkey such a dangerous wildlife creature. It pretends to be all cute and fuzzy. And then it strikes without warning and breaks your heart!!!
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I say if we laugh at him, he can’t hurt us. Even the captain says he has to laugh at monkey!
Nice steal by Mr. Hip and a half there
Do the voices of Buck and McCarver make anyone else nauseous besides me?
just a huge SB for Alex.
man on 2nd with no outs…
time to see if the Yanks will generate these runs or rely on solo HR again!
Let me guess.
weather.com forecasts rain in NY on Thursday?
Smart of the top of the order guys to be aggressive on the basepath, gives Posada and Matsui a chance to get the runs in. After Matsui, it’s the LOB brigade.
Alex has been a SB threat all season despite hip issues. Why do teams still ignore him on the basepaths as if he cannot run?
It’s good for us, but still, makes you scratch your head.
They play in LA on Thursday
So for a second I was like, “Don’t walk, Jorge” because I couldn’t bear to see Cano come up after him with 1st and 2nd nobody out.
Then I remembered Matsui was batting behind Posada, lol.
yes yes yes lets goooooooooooooo
Small strike zone for both teams so far. Bodes better for the Yankees, I think.
its not tight…
maybe the Kazmir collapse is coming early?
need to break out here
I hate mccarver he is a bafoon like lou holtz
NYY626
October 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
That is what makes the rally monkey such a dangerous wildlife creature. It pretends to be all cute and fuzzy. And then it strikes without warning and breaks your heart!!!
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I say if we laugh at him, he can’t hurt us. Even the captain says he has to laugh at monkey!
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Yankee Snoopy > Rally Monkey
Yankee Snoopy can smash the Rally Monkey to evil little pieces
“weather.com forecasts rain in NY on Thursday?”
Which is fine cause game 5 isn’t in NY.
IMO, you can’t ask for much better umpiring in this series so far.
they’ll never be perfect, but I think they’ve done a great job of letting the players decide the outcomes.
DC October 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Do the voices of Buck and McCarver make anyone else nauseous besides me?
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Yes,very much so.
Can Cashmere work any slower if he tried????
no dp please…
here we go..lets get a big inning we are due
Matsui will come thru. He killed left-handers this year.
Greattttttttt, Yanks are having the good eyes tonight (so far)
Matsui…please follow what arod and jorge did.
I need to get myself seats like boras has
I really hope we can put up some crooked numbers in this game. Godzilla should sit on inside fastball until he throws a strike.
A-Rod, agressive…
Kazmir’s control collapsing…
Scioscia’s agita…
I’m telling you, Kazmir has the ability to lose it fast. (Here’s hoping this is one of those times.)
0 for 22? 0 for 24? RISP
Matsui has to do something here, the rest of the order doesn’t inspire confidence.
classic Kazmir and it’s even worse with a tight strike zone.
Patience will be a virtue tonight
Two straight walks to Arod and Posada. How much do you want to bet Matsui works a good AB (no matter what the results) and then Cano starts chasing at balls?
RED LIGHT–RED LIGHT DISTRICT—MAKE HIM THROW STRIKES
Yankee Snoopy > Rally Monkey
Yankee Snoopy can smash the Rally Monkey to evil little pieces
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You should make yankee snoopy videos and sell them to the yankees to play on the big screen! I can only watch the B, D, and 4 train go at it so many times….
Kazmir taking a lesson from Joba on the pace of the game
Pat M.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
GB, I remember being at many of those Twilight games back then…Fast Frankie was impossible to hit back then as he always made life miserable for the Bombers…Dick Williams ruined Tanana…..I think Munson had a lifetime BA of .125 vs. Fast Frankie…..I remember he & Catfish going 11 innings one night, Yanks won big in the 12th…..Martin & Williams, certainly not a pitchers best friend
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Without a doubt. Tanana was a younger, earlier version of Ron Guidry. He should have been sitting in the HOF. What a marvelous young pitcher he was. Everything, big fastball, Koufax type curve, control….everything but a smar manager and health, and, then he remade himself into a junkballer and still won 230 games.
Bases loaded with cano batting Is not a situation I want to be in. Double play cano would be a morale breaker
yankees should keep him on this slow pace. step out. mess with his head
Come on risp please
Maybe it’s because I am a yankees fan, but Kazmir looks scared or something.
Come on, Cano!
NOOO Matsui. Cano, you better do something here!
Another wasted out by the Yankee offense. Come on guys, you have Kazmir working hard.
Now we have to count on Cano?
Come on Cano make me eat crow.
Yuck..oh no its cano
This team is just so bad with RISP. Can the bottom of this lineup do anything right ?
Here comes the patented Cano DP
They need to get a run in this situation.
thanks for not hitting a dp, matsui. those things are better left to Cano.
Robbie, prove me wrong…PLEASE
this team has a disease….theyd better cure it SOON!
come on robbie…MAKE US KNOW!!!
McCarver is an idiot.
Matsui was great against lefties this year.
I think McCarver had one too many drinks.
cano likes it down…hopefully he can turn on something…
yes cano. step out three more times.
Come on Cano… pretend no one is on base…
“Hard to find a weakness in this yankee lineup”
LOL. 0 for 24.
How is it a weakness that Damon, Matsui, and Cano have to hit against lefties??
I thought he was going to say a weakness in the Yankees lineup is Cano’s numbers w/RISP
break out here cano!!!
Hopefully Cano has been paying attention.
Make him throw his fastball for strikes.
I feel a ringing double coming.
wth man
jeez louise…
that was a HORRIBLE at-bat by cano..
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
Cano is so bad its un real
If we lose this game, you know why.
This is pathetic.
Its like watching a replay of 2006 and on
this team needs to seriously CUT THE CRAP…..AWFUL….just friggin AWFUL!
Unbelievable… what was Cano reaching for??
Sheesh popup central.
This team is so bad with RISP. Look at the approach from the bottom of the order. They are just stupid hitters.
Kevin Long needs to have discussion with these idiots…make him actually throw you strikes…
Oh no…time for Swisher to turn it around, I hope!
Swisher SO coming.
Let’s go Swish!
We should have brought Ramiro Pena into the playoffs to pinch hit for Robbie when he’s up in those situations.
You think I’m kidding. I’m not. Not even a little bit.
bad at bats by matsui and cano. let’s see if swisher can make up for yesterday.
now swish will hit a fly ball
Is it too late to teach these guys how to bunt? At least then we can hope for a WP or balk.
Pick us up swisher…
0-24 seems almost impossible to do.
swish seriously…..how about a road bomb….
swish can hit the fastball
He ended up in going back home and played with the Tigers…I’ve played in golf outings with him many times..Still has a place in Newport Beach….
Cano sucks. He looks like he isn’t taking his medication. Or taking too much of it!
Now would be a good time for Swisher to do something good…
Swisher has good record against Kazmir
Maybe if you “feel” a strike out we might get ARod to score with this Swisher AB ?
we are bailing out kazmir here…come on swish….
ok. we get it. they’ve left men on base. it’s playoff baseball. that’s going to happen. they’re not playing the oriels.
drive the pitch count up…
Kevin Long needs to put shock collars on these hitters and zap them when they swing at garbage.
No run in this inning is inexcusable.
come one!
“If we lose this game, you know why.”
I am guessing the other team scored more runs then us?
When the calendar turns to October key Yankee hitters fail.
NYY626
October 20th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Yankee Snoopy > Rally Monkey
Yankee Snoopy can smash the Rally Monkey to evil little pieces
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You should make yankee snoopy videos and sell them to the yankees to play on the big screen! I can only watch the B, D, and 4 train go at it so many times….
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Good call. I will make a fortune
COME ON SWISH!!
I’m listening on the radio and the crowd sounds really quiet. Not sure how it is in person, but my guess is these fans only respond when a stupid monkey tells them to.
any chance we can get carlos gonzalez in the off season for cano?
I’m tired already
this game might take 8 hours
Kaz at 34 pitches.
Let’s go Swish!
If the ball is not right down sunset…Swish should not be swinging here…
who are the “oriels”
No, maybe not
Enough Pitching Changes October 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“If we lose this game, you know why.”
I am guessing the other team scored more runs then us?
Because we cant hit with risp.
at this point its almost mathematically impossible to not at least run into a bloop hit w risp
i just hope swisher can get on so Melky “automatic out” Cabrera doesn’t lead off next inning.
Nice call UMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bull
36 pitches for kazmir
Swish use those eyes man…use them
they’re due..
3-2…
K or BB or HR?
If Joba was the Game 4 starter, this would be the longest 9 inning game ever.
one of those pitches he bounces is going to get away
Enough Pitching Changes October 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
who are the “oriels”
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you know, they play in blttymohre…
I’m suprised he didn’t call that a strike
Kazmir is just not good tonight. It’s only a matter of time until the yankees bats beat him down. Starting…. NOW!
thankfully Rivera has lead in his shows
weird route by rivera there
That’s what Swisher needs to do. Sit on the breaking ball.
Rivera is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Who is a bigger idiot, Buck or McCarver?
He’s not swinging at balls in the dirt… .a good sign…
Swisher must lead the league in getting count to 3-2 and then striking out.
thankfully Rivera has lead in his shoes*
Come on, RBI DOUBLE!!!
They also have too many hitters who don’t have a clue how to bunt.
So from that aspect they can’t advance runners. In the playoffs you’re rarely going to have big big innings like you do in June against the Orioles.
The lack of speed up and down the lineup doesn’t help either.
It’s like the lower part of the lineup has become the turning point of the game. I didn’t like this yesterday and it’s equally unacceptable right now.
Yanks are going to lose this game if they continue to strand runners. You simply cant do what the yankees are doing… Kazmir gave us two runners and we failed?
The Plague continues, lord have mercy.
I have seen enough swisher for one series…
LOSERS!
Unbelievable…
No surprise
Better start praying they hit enough homers.
:bangs head: Ok, well at least we worked his pitch count a little.
is it time to start bunting when a man is on 2nd with no outs?
I’d say yes.
This team simply can’t hit with RISP in the post-season.
It’s reached the pathetic stage.
0-24 and climbing.
It’s a joke.
How does this team – the team that produced the most runs in baseball, continually let these pitchers off the hook?
OK guys … two lead off walks, and we cannot produce a run. This is beyond frustrating.
This inning is a microcosm of the Yankees failure in this series.
bailed him out there…
Or no rbi double.
and a fly out to Bobby A-boo-boo.
2 on, no out…and we get nothing.
Failure!
Swisher has no problem flying out now…. a day too late, Swish….
at this point we can institute the softball rule for bottom 3rd. auto outs just to move the game along..
Er, or not.
this team is just PATHETIC….doesnt matter how many inning CC goes if our joke of a lineup cant do anything….even if we win this series we will get torn up by the phillies if we dont start hitting now….
putrid.
incredibly awful…at least the pitch count got up…I mean thats the only positive…
Damn…and the pitcher leading off next inning for the Yanks.
what a joke. swisher is a day late, needed that fly ball yesterday
cashmere 38 pitches after two.
Offense needs a enema.
Kazmir at 38 pitches
Bad swings make bad at bats!… That bottom order has got to go!
This is disgusting to watch. 0-23 with runners in scoring position. I wouldn’t mind seeing a little emotion when you continually fail at the same situation. Cough Cano and Swisher Cough.
season’s over everybody…ive seen this story before from us. its called 2004. maybe we can get some hitters on this team next year.
HRs or nothing. It is a bad combo w/ a decided advantage for the Angels at manager
Boston Dave – 6 wins to go
October 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
0-24 seems almost impossible to do.
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didn’t soriano go 0-23 with 23k’s?
Phil B- I agree, the yanks are 0-for-23 with RISP since the 7th inning of Game 1.
Didn’t SJ say he wasn’t going to be on tonight? Nice try dude.
You are not SJ44
But since you love posting why don’t you get your own handle
This offense is so pathetic, it’s not even funny. Matsui, Cano, and Swisher all reached over the plate to hit those weak popups.
Chad or sam please tell john & suzyn that there mike is making problems they should correct it it gets me nervous I have to listen bcs. I’m still @ work & can’t watch tv
I’ll give Kazmir this much. Every strike he has thrown in the 2nd inning but one was a perfect strike. The first pitch to Swisher was a cookie that Swish shoule have hit out to left. We can’t let a goos pitch lik ethat get away the way we are hitting.
It’s amazing that we are not hitting and how quickly we forget what can happen in the post season. I guess the year off has made us forget.
Nice job you pathetic losers.
Hey Swisher you do that once yesterday and the Yankees are up 3-0 good going
i agree we should just start bunting if a runner is on everytime…at least we force the defense…doesnt force anything if you just hit fly balls or pop ups
It’s not beer league softball, so they’re not all going to go up and mash.
The guy’s pitch count is at 38. That is what you do with Kazmir, you wait him out.
Here’s a good idea for Bald Vinny.
“Swisher Salute” toilet paper!
This story is also called 2005, 2006, and 2007
Same story as the last game. This team is just so stupid when it comes to situational hitting. I don’t care what anyone says. The bottom of the order can’t even hit a pitcher who’s in trouble.
RISP………You guys know what it means, but for those who don’t , it’s Runners In Stranded Position….
This lineup has been mostly crap for the entire postseason. The only reason the Yanks have done well is good pitching and A-rod. The rest of the lineup needs to STEP IT UP
Can the whining stop???
Its the second inning. You have your ace on the mound.
Just sit and see what happens before you plan the Yankee funeral
im getting scared now
Pathetic losers??
I say.
Something positive, something positive….They made Kazmir work?
Boy is he slow on the mount.
I hate when analysts say walks hurt you. It never does when we’re at-bat.
DC October 20th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Who is a bigger idiot, Buck or McCarver?
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Buck is the idiot. McCarver is merely drunk.
Yes, Swish failed to come thru, but it’s a great at bat for him nonetheless. If he keeps having quality at bats you just have to leave him in there. I would pull Melky before Swish if you are worried about defence.
Awful. Just plain awful. Cano is absolutely killing them right now too. But 7,8 and 9 hitters are just horrid. Where and when will the offense outside of Arod, Jorge and Jeter show up. Damon put in extra work and picked it up. What are the rest of them doing?????
who cares if Kazmir is at 100 pitches. This team cannot hit
the stars get on base, the scrubs strand them, that’s how the cookie crumbles, i really hope tex breaks out or we’re doomed.
Hacking the Halos…
It’s no trip to Disneyland…
Just ask Girardi…
Also you can’t expect Cano to hit with RISP during the playoffs.
He doesn’t do it during the regular season when he’s facing bad pitchers and there’s much less pressure.
He’s not an RBI producer otherwise he’d be hitting higher.
At this point, you have to assume the offense is done for the year. They are getting worse by the AB.
Meaning, they will have to pitch 2 shutouts in the last 4 games, and pray they can score a run in 2 games, to win this series.
Asking an awful lot from a pitching staff.
we need some sort of switch….if its gardy or someone else we just need someone else, this is OBVIOUSLY not working…
Phil B October 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Yanks are going to lose this game if they continue to strand runners. You simply cant do what the yankees are doing… Kazmir gave us two runners and we failed?
Going to be tough, if Jeter and Damon don’t get on then you need RBI’s from the guys who have no hits and the three outs are grouped together. Low scoring affair, who ever gets the break probably wins.
The good news is the game is still tied and the Angels could not have a come back win in this game… so far.
Also, the Angels bullpen is not in yet.
How is Juan Rivera that fast ?
?Im losing my respect for Robinson Cano. He has become an automatic out.
How did he look safe?????
of course we dont get the close calls….why would we….
A Hit A HIT my kingdom for a hit… with runners in scoring position.
M. Kay’s Head is 100% correct. This does remind you of those failures. I’m starting to get a bad feeling about all of this. Seems like we’ve been down this road before.
Enjoy the IGT guys.
I read that Jeter and Arod have the flu, yet they still manage to play well.
Wait for Kazmir to run his count up…but we haven’t really hammered their “soft under belly” of bullpen either
Erica – always OPPC October 20th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Can the whining stop???
Its the second inning. You have your ace on the mound.
Just sit and see what happens before you plan the Yankee funeral
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when the pressure’s on, the chicken littles will cluck…
Babe Ruth actually made out
Whoever said walks come back to bite you in the butt never watched this bunch……….
Triple Short Of A Cycle
October 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
who cares if Kazmir is at 100 pitches. This team cannot hit
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Except that during the season the lead MLB in runs and hits
obligatory broken bat single will score rivera here.
“How is Juan Rivera that fast ?”
Maybe he stole Jeter’s other glove.
Oh geez, I wonder if the Angels will hit with RISP.
How many solo homeruns do we need to win this game?
Even though the Yankees have gotten more baserunners than the Angels, I somehow feel like CC is walking on a tightrope while the Yankees really aren’t posing much of a threat to score. Weird.
Kazmir is a 5 inning pitcher , but if he shuts you out for five who cares? Yankees haven’t made this bullpen pay at all. Kazmir you can cream if you make him pay. Last inning Matsui doesn’t even move the runners on a hitters count. Cano is simply lost, not driving the ball. And Swisher has worked the count, but someone needs to get a hit.
So umm…just wondering, whats the point of making an announcement that impersonators of regulars won’t be tolerated if people are still able to do it regardless?
Erica, This team is a different team in the postseason. They are where they are because of great pitching and insane heroics by AROD
I hope I’m just paranoid, but to me CC doesn’t look all that sharp.
They better score some runs because I’m not feeling this is going to be one of CCs 0 or 1 run games.
alright lets get out this../
swisher is anemic with runners in scoring position. add cano as well.
I love that Jeters mic is on “HEY HEY”
Good work CC!
Ford Motor Company
October 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Oh geez, I wonder if the Angels will hit with RISP.
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No, they will not
The Yankees have 1 situational hitter on their entire team.
That’s the thing that concerned me before the playoffs.
And here we are.
How is Rivera slow as hell in left field, but speedy going down the line???????? Guess he really wants a hit….
I love cc…pitch count low.
Avenging Angels…
Carstens Charles Sabathia…
Skirmish at sun down…
They aren’t hitting any better than we are.
i be rocking directv
Just wait 2nd trip through line up Kasmir wont last 5 innings
Note, the Angels not too great with RISP either. Last one they made was back on Saturday
If this team fails in this series then the team needs to be revamped. Some of the hitters just fail in the postseason.
How much you wanna bet Melky hits a ground ball to 2nd base?
Ok lets go 2-3 runs and have Kaz throw 30 pitches
Hey guys, I’m just as frustrated as you are, but this is NOT the team from 05, 06, 07. Seriously, bite your tongues.
Triple Short Of A Cycle
October 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Erica, This team is a different team in the postseason. They are where they are because of great pitching and insane heroics by AROD
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Right. And all we have heard for the last 3 years is how awful A-Rod is int he postseason. All those people look really dumb right now.
When Cano and Swisher do something awesome everyone will be kissing up and cheering like fools.
People never have any faith
I’m hoping Gardner gets a start Vs the next righty pitcher..
Where is there a mic on the field? How were they able to hear Jeter?
CC looks good, but not lights out like the other night. A few rockets. That can’t depend on him showing a shut out today. Get him some runs. Melky needs to have a solid at bat here. If he swings at the first pitch I might break something. If he can get on, Jeter will get a rally going. It is obvious the top of this lineup will have to carry this team. I feel a big hit from Tex if they can get to him today.
Who cares if they’re getting Kazmir’s pitch count up. They aren’t hitting anyone right now. Including a supposedly weak Angel pen.
Weaver had nothing yesterday and they hardly did anything.
Sad fact: I’ve seen this Black Eyed Peas Direct TV commercial in the two days more than I’ve seen Nick Swisher and Melky Cabrera on base this entire postseason.
vJockomac
October 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
How much you wanna bet Melky hits a ground ball to 2nd base?
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Do you actually hope you are right?????
Sam posted the rules earlier yet someone is stealing using SJ44′s name.
what is the penalty for breaking the rules, Sam?
if you dont enforce them, why bother posting them?
ban the dude!
The whole lineup minus A-Rod is anemic with RISP!!
i repeat…doesnt matter how many jams cc gets out of or how well he pitches if we dont score some runs….
i think the yankees are going to definetly take advantage of kazmir
Jockomac
October 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
How much you wanna bet Melky hits a ground ball to 2nd base?
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Question -
What’s the point of a post like this? I am honestly curious.
CC much better in the 2nd… 3 ground balls.. lets go get some runs for him now..
Nice bunt
“Where is there a mic on the field? How were they able to hear Jeter?”
There are mics under each bag.
GREAT BUNT MELKY!!!!
attaboy melky
LECHE!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice Melky!
Hey, that works.
great play
vJockomac
October 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
How much you wanna bet Melky hits a ground ball to 2nd base?
*****
Take that!
Good stuff Melky! When you can’t hit, you push bunt
Pitchers should be able to lay down a bunt.
Melky with the bunt
Melky…wonderful start…I think a steal then maybe a bunt???
Hey! I was close.
Given that its especially pointless because you look sorta silly now.
Keep it up, good play Melky
the melk man uses his head? wow!
Great bunt! Let’s get something going.
Melkster, getting it going!
OMG WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL BUNT
look at the melk man!
It doesn’t feel like 2007, 2005, or 2004. Our guys are slumping with RISP but we are up 2-1. Kazmir doesn’t look good tonight. We are going to score some runs tonight, without the solo home runs. I’ve still got confidence in this team that I haven’t had in years…
nice bunt by melky
NO DP Please!!!
Ok I take it back, he did sort of swing, so can break something small !!! I’ll take it.
If Girardi makes him bunt I will break something bigger
small ball may be the solution
Alright we actually have a bottom-of-the-order guy on base, lets get him home!
Nice bunt by Cabrera. No steal attempt, no bunt…just a hit and run.
Great idea and execution
nice push bunt
why do anything but kill a rally by swinging at the first pitch…
Jesus Jeter is hammering the ball but right at people!!
JasonR- Thank you
stop hitting the ball right at Bobby A-boo-boo…he only has a range of like 20 feet
Memo to Melky:
Start running
Very nice Melky. You would like Jeter to bunt but then you have Damon a lefty against a lefty so you have to let Jeter hit and 1 out. Very good.
I was hoping jete would take a pitch or 2
Jter is a GREAT hitter. But it’s frustrating how his AB’s only last 1 or 2 pitches.
Ok now I’m nitpicking.
haha to jasonR
Todd
October 20th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
small ball may be the solution
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Moving runners over is a part of small ball.
Come on Johnny, give Tex a shot here. It’s his night, I can feel it.
I think Tex will homer next time up…..
come on Johnny
Damon should bunt as well at least we 1 shot to get a run
Damon should bunt as well at least we 1 shot to get a run
I feel good about this inning.
This team can get runners on base but can’t bring them in. It’s been the story of this team ever since Game 5 of the 2004 ALCS.
Keep working that count Johnny!!!!!!
I think Tex will hit one also…
The best slump buster is to drop a bunt….
send him…
Do we have to watch Boras the whole game??? Can’t Fox block his face out???
Good job, Johnny.. make him work.
Kazmir will have thrown 50-55+ pitches by the end of the inning
Damon dont swing..
YankeeRay
October 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Damon should bunt as well at least we 1 shot to get a run
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Johnny Damon has many great attributes. His bunting abilities aren’t really one of them
damn, that was ball four, Damon.
Melky did not get my memo
pathetic damon….pathetic….
No JOHNNY. NO!!!!!!
should have sent the runner with a 3-2 count!
Why the heck wasn’t he running 3-2?
Great job Damon swinging at ball 4
He swung at ball four
Ball four… don’t swing at ball four Johnny.
more putridness…
If the Yankees somehow win the ALCS, they are going to be destroyed by the Phillies at this rate.
just get Arod up. don’t need him leading off an inning again.
Kazmir has shown zero control. How are they just not sitting on fastballs over the plate?
Anyone feel that Tex is going to break out this at bat?
Come on Tex. I want Arod up
Rock the Kazmir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This team is so stupid. They need to take a course in situational hitting during the offseason.
If Kazmir has little control how come they aren’t killing him?
I rather A-Rod hit with people on base than lead off the next inning.
This ump is awful
Kazmir is paying too much attention to Johnny. He is going to make a mistake
Dave, either one of these teams will take out the Phillies
Home run!
please.
So high strikes and low strikes as long as they are outside?
dave October 20th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Kazmir will have thrown 50-55+ pitches by the end of the inning
So whats the point he’s out of the game and then the Relievers we can’t hit are in. Pitch count isn’t the problem here it’s lack of base hits
what a gift call.
“Johnny Damon has many great attributes. His bunting abilities aren’t really one of them”
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dont tell that to Scott Boras
Tex is clueless. late on fastballs, too quick on breaking stuff.
Risp lets see what happens
tex…..PLEASE!
Boston Dave – 6 wins to go
October 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
“Johnny Damon has many great attributes. His bunting abilities aren’t really one of them”
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dont tell that to Scott Boras
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Johnny should ditch that clown and hire me
Finally a wild pitch!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tex one big hit, let’s get one run up here. Please. Please. I am beggin you now
tex…just a nice little single here…
runner in scoring pos…lets go..we are due
Kazmir looks like he’s about to implode… must take advantage…
Kazmir looks like he’s about to implode… must take advantage…
Grrrrrr!!!! Someone here joked last night that Tex seemed to be after A-Rod’s old job. That was the only comment that actually made me smile the whole night after the dismal loss. Sometimes ya just gotta philosophical about the whole thing. But that doesn’t help win games.
What happened to that Tex/A-Rod 1-2 punch?
Again, the angels are giving the Yanks a way to add some runs on the board, why aren’t they doing it??
Tex with his usual feeble at bat in the post season.
Man this sucks
God damnit Tex……
pfffft-
I am showering early
this team really….really…..really….reallyyyyyy BLOWS!
swung at ball four
… c’mon man.
And Teixeira is off the mark again.
tex stinks. my god, he makes arod’s past post seasons seem like ruth in 27
Can anybody on this team hit a breaking ball?
Why should I root for a team that doesn’t want to win?
Damon should have stayed on first.
I really dont like the ump acquiescing to Scoscia with the catcher/strikezone.
He was calling a tight strike zone but he was actually making the correct calls
If he starts giving Angels pitchers a wider strikezone due to his talk with Scioscia, it’s garbage.
Can someone please tell me what is wrong with Tex?
If Girardi doesn’t change this lineup tomorrow, he should be fired on the spot.
Starting with Tex. Move him down in the order.
The lineup as is can no longer hit.
Now 0-25 with RISP.
WOW!
ughhhhh are bats stink
Seems like they are playin scared or asleep. This is the type of game Girardi would get himself thrown out of during the regular season. Just my opinion.
gianna24
October 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Again, the angels are giving the Yanks a way to add some runs on the board, why aren’t they doing it??
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Because they really hate you.
Here we go again with the bats..it’s either hot or cold…unreal..
Here we go again with the bats..it’s either hot or cold…unreal..
Tuesday is Sunday at Carvel and October is April for tex.
so much for tex killing kazmir.
The Yanks are playing this one smart. Don’t get a lead.
The Angels and their stupid monkey love to come from behind.
Don’t play their games!
Teixeira must be on horse roids, he is a equine failure, we should put him out to pasture
The Phranchise October 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Man this sucks
Just imagine the frustration on the bench
Take a deep breath…
Remember how good Teixeira has been on defense…
Take another deep breath and avoid venting…
The team of April returns and Tex too.. GO CC!
53 pitches for kazsmear
Teixeira, time for an in game eye check. My Gawd!!!!
why does this forum stutter…
This isn’t pretty. Where is the lineup we saw all year?
anybody know the longest 0fer streak w risp?
It’s pretty clear that this team is incapable of having a rally inning. They will be depending on the long ball. It’s homers or singles. They can’t string together hits.
gianna24
October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Can someone please tell me what is wrong with Tex?
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He really hates you.
I don’t even know why I am watching this game. Even if CC pitches light out we are going to lose because these hitters can’t even drive in a run to save their lifes.
We cant take advantage of kazmir even with him not having great stuff… Thats 0 for 23 with RISP i think.. .
lead off man on in each inning… hasn’t gone beyond 2nd base yet..
it is remarkable how many bad pitches they have swung at in these last two games.
“Why should I root for a team that doesn’t want to win?”
Sooooo…why are you here?
Back to work CC
tex is not moving down he has hit 3rd all year.
this offense is putrid.. swisher, tex, cano, this guys are atrocious……..
Somebody run over to the old Stadium & see if Giambi’s golden thong is still there..We can have it Fed-exed to Tex in time for game 5………..
Tex is not coming back. He’s in a tailspin of epic proportions. Gotta have someone else come through.
Now C.C. has to pitch a shutout on 3 days rest for the team to have any shot to win this game.
SJ44 October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
If Girardi doesn’t change this lineup tomorrow, he should be fired on the spot.
Starting with Tex. Move him down in the order.
The lineup as is can no longer hit.
Now 0-25 with RISP.
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yeah, bat him 8th…lol…gtfoutta here with that nonsense…
“SJ44
October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
If Girardi doesn’t change this lineup tomorrow, he should be fired on the spot.”
WRONG. You should get fired on the spot for impersonating a regular poster.
what about flipping Tex and Arod in the lineup?
Can we bring Cecil Fielder off the bench to replace Tex?
This offense looks like the Giants defense Sunday: Embarrassing
The long lay offs have hurt the hitters. Timing is all off. The Angels aren’t hitting either for the most part. It’s like early April where the pitchers are ahead of the hitters.
“Because they really hate you” LOL, that’s hysterical! You’re a nice person
man on first is not scoring position einstein….
Sad fact: I’ve seen more Teixeira strikeouts this series than Black Eyed Peas Direct TV commercials.
If we wanted a defensive first baseman that can’t hit we coulda kept Doug Mientkiewicz
Why Aybar is really thinking outside the box there. What a bone head try there
We in trouble
the good news for Tex is that at .067 with each successive out his batting average won’t go down as much.
Texiera 3-27 this postseason with 1 HR and 1 RBI.
Teixeira should have run him over like a truck
Can’t hit with RISP. Makes me wonder if Cano-itis is spreading.
“If we wanted a defensive first baseman that can’t hit we coulda kept Doug Mientkiewicz”
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of course the Yankees would be golfing right now if they had Minky at 1b this season.
Looking at that strike 3 to Teixeira that slider was not even very good. Not very biting at all.
Yankees are letting Kazmir get away with pitching like crap…
Dennis Green needs to give the Yanks a pep talk..”They are who we thought they were and we let ‘em off the hook!”
CC is a beast…do not waste this performance
Joe and Brian kind of loaded the deck here, basically they have 9 players they can play, on the bench we have two catchers, 2 pinch runners, and Jerry Harrison. Not many options to do anything different that could make a real difference.
Cano and Matsui back to back against a lefty is absolutely brutal. I would say put Swish inbetween them but I guess it doesn’t matter. Kazmir will just pitch around Arod and Posada all night.
youronthemark-texiera
October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
anybody know the longest 0fer streak w risp?
If Pete were here, he’d remind you every time that Cano was at bat
Seems like the guys who are going poorly are pressing. Bad. Because eventually Arod and the guys swinging well and relaxed will start trying too much to carry the load. They need the bottom of the order to start being productive and quick. Otherwise there is no depth.
Well at least the way CC is pitching, we might only lose 1-0…
Dangerous pitch here
Or how about 6th?
This nonsense of not making any changes only insures failure.
Joe Torre moved guys around in the Dynasty Years when they were slumping.
It’s not April. They don’t have a month to wait for Tex to hit.
Move him down or be happy with bad results.
Good thing Tex has a long contract…..His 3 for 27 won’t look too good in the next Boras book of his accomplishments…
It wasn’t meant to be funny or mean. It was meant to be sarcastic way to let you know that its NOT actually personal. That they’re not doing this as a way to personally spite you at all. Contrary to popular belief on here and all.
New thread guys. Only the third inning and we’re over 1000 comments! You guys are working harder than CC.
Not to mention Dougie was injured for like 160 games this season. Tex has saved about 10 runs this postseason with his glove, he deserves some slack.
new post
all impersonators stay here, everyone else come on over.
DT-
I just showered
I ran for the water after the Tex AB
angels still dont scare me we should win easily
Kazmir looks as bad as he did against the Sox. But the Sox made him pay. The Yankees have to make him pay next inning. Too many chances. He’s a guy always with a high pitch count and walks.
new thread
Teixeira is fitting right in with October Yankee offense. It’s contagious, whoever comes to this team just fails in October unless you’re a pitcher.
Here’s Teixeira who doesn’t have a whole lot of playoff experience but did go 7 for 15 last year.
And looks completely lost right now.
CC with an 0.84 ERA in the series so far.
worth every penny…
I know Abreu is a very good player. But I don’t miss him. And I’m not a huge Swisher fan. I just never really digged Abreu too much.
Arno October 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Well at least the way CC is pitching, we might only lose 1-0…
Actually I think we could win 1-0 he looks pretty good
Maybe CC should hit.
“If we wanted a defensive first baseman that can’t hit we coulda kept Doug Mientkiewicz”
Who is posting as me ? Because I didn’t say that. Who ever it is stop it now !
If Kazmir was the pitcher he was 2-3 yrs ago, the Rays would have never traded him……..Let’s pound this guy now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Si’ Si’ pitch count:
1st 10
2nd 09
3rd 10
total: 29 thur 3 inn
Joe Buck is right. Alex Rodriguez is Due Up: Any one else due up want to step it up. I’m predicting a big inning
It’s a shame the offense is done because CC looks great.
Pitching this well with no margin for error on short rest. Too bad the offense can’t respond.
CC is a stud
Can we please score a run now. Somehow
“If we wanted a defensive first baseman that can’t hit we coulda kept Doug Mientkiewicz”
I wanted to say that but I couldn’t spell Mientkiewicz.
Kazmir has a complete game shutout through 4 innings.
Carsten Charles in charge…
Crusading against Cherubs…
Translucent Halos…
That would have taken Kazmir’s hand off if he had gloved it.
Pretty sad when your cleanup hitter has 3 ABs through 3 innings and you still haven’t scored a run.
Arod and Posada are doing all the work. If the bottom of the order screws this up I will scream.
Two hits in a row?
Is that allowed?
Come on Yanks!!!
If the Yankees don’t score I am going to become a Mets fan.
My kingdom for a hit.
anybody have a link to the jeter/arod video?
totally lame kzone by this ump and great sac fly sui…
unbelievable
Arod, steal home please!
godzooky…
Terrible AB he looks at 2 and swings at something he cannot it. They are out of the inning.
I guess i picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue
Kazmir made some serious pitches to Matsui. Nothing Matsui could do with that at bat..
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
Finally
o for 26 but will take it
Pathetic swing by Cano but Arod’s aggressiveness worked there.
Nothing Cano did just nice hustle from Arod
come on swisher
hit another flyball to RF….
finally…moronic play by the 2nd baseman
Wow. A run.
Cano with a RBI. Expect snow at the game tonight.
Please throw a wild pitch, Kazmir!
Fastball down the middle for strike 1. How soon til he waves at the slider?
Why are we missing all these fastballs right down the middle?
Nice. They’re coming through.
Leche!
Leche!
Leche!
Wow, that was a good call.
Whew!
Thank you Angels for providing us with Kazmir so we can wake up our bats again
A hit with RISP?!?
Johnny owes us..I will never forget that grand slam..
make-up call
wow – these umps suck!!
These umps are terrible!!!!!!!!!!!
Baseball has to get rid of this “left the bag early” rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
worst umpiring i have ever seen in this series.
worst hands down.
terrible.
Baseball has to get rid of this “left the bag early” rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
Baseball has to get rid of the “left the bag early” overturn rule. Who the hell can actually look at the ball and the runner at the same time?
two bad calls in one inning AWFUL!
The umpire stole a run from us. Replays show he did not even look at Swish!
crappy mccleland wasnt even LOOKING at swisher…total garbage….
It’s called periphial(?) vision….could it be that McClellan saw swish from the corner of his right eye?
Let’s not get too excited here….Swisher was OUT when he was picked off…so…even steven.
Yankeekid
did you ever umpire? if hes using his periphs hes supposed to look at the foot and see the ball caught in his periphs..
but the PROPER play is to line yourself up so you can see both, which he did NOT do, and he is a veteran joker!
this is what happens when you overpay old lazy jerkos to umpire playoff games….
Kazmir stinks angels should put him in the bullpen.
that was a make up call by mccleland because Swish was picked off at 2nd. Bad job by Swisher getting picked off and even making that a close play he is not a base stealer where is he going.
I will never bash A-Rod again..what a performance this post-season..
Well with the win looks like it will be phillies and yanks unless a miracle happens for the dodgers and angels.