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Yankees know they can’t look ahead

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 21, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees remember 2004. They know that no lead (whether it’s 3-1 or 3-0) is safe and so even though they’re only one win from the World Series, there was plenty of “one-day-at-a-time” talk in the clubhouse this morning.

“One game, win one game,” Joe Girardi said. “You don’t look ahead. You look at just trying to win a game Thursday and you go from there.”

Girardi wouldn’t commit to a lineup for Game 5 yet, but it seems likely that Jorge Posada will be on the bench again, with Jose Molina catching and Hideki Matsui at DH. If the Yankees are able to win the series out here, they’ll have nearly a week off before the World Series begins next Wednesday.

Not that they’re thinking about it. Derek Jeter said the Yankees are trying to take the same mental approach with these games that they’ve had all year.

“If you always have that mindset, you never have to change it,” he said.

The Yankees are on the field working out right now. To help you pass the time, here’s a bunch of audio for your listening pleasure.

First, we’ve got Mark Teixeira, who had some interesting insights into the conversations that he and Alex Rodriguez have had about hitting. He also talks about what he expects from his former teammates – particularly John Lackey – tomorrow night.

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Then there’s Johnny Damon, who discusses his own hitting as well as what he’s looking for from A.J. Burnett as well as the Yankees’ need not to look too far forward.

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Next is Girardi, who touches on all types of topics, including the health of Derek Jeter (he seems to be improving).

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And lastly we’ve got A.J. Burnett, who said that games like tomorrow night are essentially the reason why he signed with the Yankees last winter. There’s some good stuff in there from A.J.

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245 Responses to “Yankees know they can’t look ahead”

  1. yanks October 21st, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    why not DH Posada and sit Matsui? Po has been more productive.

  2. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    hmm… wonder why Matt Holliday has the Yanks first on his list… probably thinks he will get the most money from us. dont think we actually need him though.

  3. vb03 October 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Should sit Matsui and start Posada at DH, IMO.

  4. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Wow. Audio-pa-looza!

    Thanks, Sam!

    I tried to cut and paste but someone’s name is probably blocking the post.

    Here’s the (ongoing) chat with J. Callis of BA, lots of good stuff about the Yankees and some of their prospects, too.

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnatio.....jim-callis

  5. Rishi October 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Be ready, AJ…

  6. vb03 October 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    I don’t think this team particularly needs Holliday. However, if they choose to let Matsui and Damon walk, he might be the guy.

  7. Rishi October 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Not sure why, but Brett Tomko was hanging out in the Yankees clubhouse. –Carig
    21 minutes ago from TweetDeck

  8. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    I think Matsui should get his knees drained before the game tomorrow. That always seems to work wonders for him! :)

  9. Neil October 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Only Jeter, Posada, and Mo remember 2004. Andy had gone to Houston. Torre was the manager.
    It’s never fair to compare teams of 5 years ago.

  10. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “2) Anyone one have an opinion on whether a) the Japanese will sell Yu Darvish b) whom, among Darvish and Chapman, is the more coveted prize?”

    ————–

    Darvish may not want to come to the US anyway.

    I’d prefer Chapman because he’s younger, throws harder, and perhaps most importantly, he’s a lefty.

    But scouting international veterans has proven difficult.

    Scouting young international players? Might be a total crapshoot.

    Until there is a pitcher from Japan who lives up to the hype, let someone else spend the big $$ and roll the Dice-K.

    :)

    sign me up for Chapman!

  11. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I do not believe Posada should DH

    Everyday players do not always thrive in the DH role. Plus, Posada can pinch hit for Molina at any time. If you have Posada as the DH, you cannot pinch hit for Molina so easily. Posada would have to catch and you lose your DH. If you put in Cervelli, you are using your last catcher.

  12. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Rishi,

    He had to be delivering a painting. ;)

  13. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    28 hours and 52 minutes until Game 5!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. iiicollies October 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    repost

    What we should never forget

    The success of Rodriguez and Sabathia illustrates the pitfalls of drawing conclusions from a small sample size. Denigrating a pitcher like Sabathia’s entire body of work based on a handful of postseason starts is not logical, nor is dubbing Rodriguez a choker based on 174 at bats. When the sample is too small, you cannot draw any conclusions from it. Look how quickly Alex was able to pull his postseason numbers up to his career marks, courtesy of Pinstripe Alley:

    Arod, regular season career (8304AB): .305/.390/.576

    Arod, postseason 2009 (27AB): .407/.469/1.000

    Arod postseason career (174AB): .299/.388/.563

    Similarly, their performances thus far this postseason do not mean that they are great postseason players. Rather, they illustrate that sometimes, great players will do great things. Mark Teixeira’s struggles reflect the fact that sometimes, great players struggle in big spots. Thankfully, Brian Cashman did not make decisions based on these absurdly small samples, and neither should we.

    From Yankee Universe

  15. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    tex’s friend
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    hmm… wonder why Matt Holliday has the Yanks first on his list… probably thinks he will get the most money from us. dont think we actually need him though.

    ****

    Yahoo had a story this morning about the Mets going hard after Holliday.

  16. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Erica-I agree. It’s almost a given Posada will be in the game as soon as AJ comes out anyway.

  17. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Isn’t it Jim Callis who lost virtually all of his credibility this year for some ridiculous pro-Red Sox opinions?

    I can’t remember but I think it was him.

    It’s a shame when sources like BA who fans hope to get unbiased reporting from, can’t do just that.

  18. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Ever wonder what happened to the arrogant Steve Phillips not seen on ESPN lately. This article explains it.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/n.....LU4ZDXvvDO

    Also doubt Yanks will sign Holliday, even though his father wants him to sign with them as a lifelong Yankee fan.

  19. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Ugh. Annoyed about reading the Red Sox are going to hire Jed Hoyer as GM.

    That pretty much puts in the books that the Red Sox will get Adrian Gonzales for a gaggle of B prospects as a payback to his old bosses and Gammons will cover his butt by writing how all the prospects the Padres get are can’t miss.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they get Heath Bell too.

  20. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    File this under “Now You Know Why”:

    Pat Sajak joined the show after getting tons of face time during the MLB playoffs.

    Sajak explained that his friend agent Scott Boras got him into those seats behind the plate at the Angels game. He admitted that he looks like a floating head in the Macy’s Thanksgiving parade.

    Sajak said that he can hear and feel everything that’s going on. “You are almost dangerously close,” Sajak said. Sajak said it’s a bit funny, because he’s actually below the field and can’t see everything.

    Sajak promised Dan he can take over Wheel of Fortune when he’s done. And Sajak reluctantly promised Dan a trip to the DP Show Studios to shoot hoops, drink beer and eat wings will be a prize.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0UbDAw7Nv

  21. vb03 October 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Erica – always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I do not believe Posada should DH

    Everyday players do not always thrive in the DH role. Plus, Posada can pinch hit for Molina at any time. If you have Posada as the DH, you cannot pinch hit for Molina so easily. Posada would have to catch and you lose your DH. If you put in Cervelli, you are using your last catcher.

    ———–

    Good point. However I don’t see why we should sacrifice two Posada at-bats, considering Matsui has cooled off considerably and Molina is an offensive black hole most of the time.

    I do see the logic, though. But since we are carrying three catchers, the team certainly has the option to DH Jorge if they wanted.

  22. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    G. Love,

    You haven’t heard? Towers has a “standing offer” from the Red Sox.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....l_enj.html

  23. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    G. Love
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    Ugh. Annoyed about reading the Red Sox are going to hire Jed Hoyer as GM.
    ****

    Are they firing the boy wonder???

  24. Bronx Jeers October 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    At this point in the post season, AJ should be acclimated enough to graduate from the kiddie pool have Posada catching.

  25. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Some good stuff there.

  26. Rishi October 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    m – good point, didn’t think about the paintings!!

    tried to post a question from the Callis chat but it didn’t go through. Are we not allowed to do that anymore?

  27. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    more jim callis wishful thinking for the red sox:

    Q: Long term potential – Westmoreland or Heyward

    A: Jim Callis
    (2:54 PM) – Potential is similar but Heyward has proven himself a lot more to this point.

    ———————–

    heyward is the #1 prospect in baseball. westmoreland is a 19 year old, 2008 5th round pick, in low-A ball.

    westmoreland may very well have some potential, but to suggest it is similar to the #1 prospect in the entire game is ludicrous!

  28. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “Ugh. Annoyed about reading the Red Sox are going to hire Jed Hoyer as GM.

    That pretty much puts in the books that the Red Sox will get Adrian Gonzales for a gaggle of B prospects as a payback to his old bosses and Gammons will cover his butt by writing how all the prospects the Padres get are can’t miss.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they get Heath Bell too.”

    Erm. I can’t imagine the Sox just letting Theo go. What’s going on in Boston?

    Haven’t heard anything remotely like Boston’s getting a new GM, unless I’ve missed something, but I like to think I’m not *that* oblivious.

  29. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “Good point. However I don’t see why we should sacrifice two Posada at-bats, considering Matsui has cooled off considerably and Molina is an offensive black hole most of the time.”

    I see the argument, but both AJ starts have been low scoring affairs going into extra innings. If Posada starts at DH, that’s a lot of AB’s from Molina/Cervelli, and a disadvantage in the late going or extra innings if the game is tight.

  30. Bronx Jeers October 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    “Ugh. Annoyed about reading the Red Sox are going to hire Jed Hoyer as GM.”

    I know you mean the Padres but do you think that a new GM, as his first order of business, is going to trade away the team’s best player for a bunch of garbage?

  31. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Sorry, I meant the Padres are going to Jed Hoyer as GM who is currently Theo’s right hand guy in Boston.

    It will probably lead to a lot of Padres/Red Sox trades where the Padres get salary relief for Red Sox prospects since Hoyer is going to claim he knows those players better than anyone.

    You might as well pencil in Adrian Gonzales next season at 1b for the Sox now.

    Figure Lars Andersen, Bowden, Delcarmen and Tazawa for Gozales. It will be a robbery.

    As for Towers, he also has a standing offer from Cashman I’ve heard to come work here.

  32. eric wedge's muppet mouth October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Jeter’s health? What is wrong with him? Someone clue me in please as I am at work and can’t listen to the audio clips. Thanks!

  33. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    This is the Game 1 Boxscore. Matsui will DH tomorrow.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxsco.....b_nyamlb_1

  34. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    “I know you mean the Padres but do you think that a new GM, as his first order of business, is going to trade away the team’s best player for a bunch of garbage?”

    ————

    if the new GM has intimate knowledge of the Red Sox overhyped farm system, then definitely not!

  35. vb03 October 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    “Good point. However I don’t see why we should sacrifice two Posada at-bats, considering Matsui has cooled off considerably and Molina is an offensive black hole most of the time.”

    I see the argument, but both AJ starts have been low scoring affairs going into extra innings. If Posada starts at DH, that’s a lot of AB’s from Molina/Cervelli, and a disadvantage in the late going or extra innings if the game is tight.

    ————————————-

    Good point as well. However, I would like to avoid an extra inning game on the road at all costs. I’d wager the stats would say that in the playoffs, the road team would have a pretty crappy chance of winning historically.

  36. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    eric wedge’s muppet mouth
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
    Jeter’s health? What is wrong with him? Someone clue me in please as I am at work and can’t listen to the audio clips. Thanks!

    **************
    I think he’s just been fighting a cold

  37. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Adrian Gonzales? What about Youkilis, Lowell, Martinez, and the 10 other guys they rotate around the infield.

  38. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Jeers,

    The Padres want to cut salary more. This gives them an excuse to trade their high priced stars.

    Who’s prospects will Hoyer regard more highly? Boston’s or the Mets, for instance.

    The Padres aren’t looking to build around Gonzales, they are looking to rebuild from scratch with a young GM.

  39. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    The Yankees didn’t need “anybody” on Tuesday. They needed their ace, needed the stud they signed for seven years and $161 million. There is a great story about Sabathia from his high school days in Vallejo, Calif., when he was a freshman filling out an information card for the baseball team and came to a question that asked for his uniform size.

    Sabathia – who stands 6-foot-7, 300 pounds now – was large even then, and so he wrote, “big as you got.”

  40. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    the problem with extra inning games for the yanks is that their lineup suddenly looks like this:

    Jeter
    Gardner
    Tex
    ARod
    Guzman
    Cervelli
    Cano
    Swisher
    Melky

  41. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    G. Love: Ah, my bad.

    The Red Sox can have their Gonzalez, I’ll take my Sabathia/Burnett/Teixeira combo =)

  42. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “The Padres want to cut salary more. This gives them an excuse to trade their high priced stars. ”

    ————-

    good thing Gonzalez is not a high priced star.

    he is a bargain priced star.

  43. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    “It will probably lead to a lot of Padres/Red Sox trades where the Padres get salary relief for Red Sox prospects since Hoyer is going to claim he knows those players better than anyone.”

    Wouldn’t Hoyer, then, know that most of the prospects you mentioned are overrated products of a well-oiled hyping machine built to rival the one the Yankees used to have that said Ruben Rivera and Ricky Ledee were the next Maris & Mantle? The Red Sox are basically becoming the early-to-mid 2000s Yankees, and the prospect-hyping is pretty much on par with that.

  44. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Do we have a bru imposter??

    I don’t think that is the real bru

  45. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Rebecca,

    I hear ya. Just hate that Boston may get all stars for pennies on the dollar because of prior relationships.

    Thankfully, the Padres don’t have too many all stars left.

  46. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    the above comment was copied & pasted

  47. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Boston Dave – 5 wins to go!
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
    the problem with extra inning games for the yanks is that their lineup suddenly looks like this:

    ****

    Pretty much.

    That still isn’t a terrible line up, but its not as scary for sure

  48. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    the problem with extra inning games for the yanks is that their lineup suddenly looks like this:

    Jeter
    Gardner
    Tex
    ARod
    Guzman
    Cervelli
    Cano
    Swisher
    Melky

    ___

    I don’t see Girardi letting that happen again. I think he will stick more to the regular things. Gardner in, Swish out. Nothing more. Definitely wont get into another situation where the dh is gone.

  49. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    “Figure Lars Andersen, Bowden, Delcarmen and Tazawa for Gonzales. It will be a robbery.”
    ——————————————
    Delcarmen didn’t make the playoff roster. Bowden was a dissapointment. Anderson had a bad year in the minors. Tazawa isn’t any good either.

    How many first baseman do the Red Sox need?

    More likely the Sox try and trade for another Ace!

  50. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    the above comment was copied & pasted

    ****

    OH! Nevermind then. You have never typed a comment using capital letters at all. Thats why I was suspicious

  51. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    the Padres control Adrian gonzalez for the next 2 seasons with an average salary of $5M.

    I can certainly see them trading him during the 2010-11 offseason, but the Red Sox don’t have the pieces to get him now (when considering their list of “untouchables”)

  52. MikeBoston October 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    The Padres will not trade A-Gon unless they get blown away, kind of like how the Jays were dealing with Doc. He IS their team and he’s the epitome of their fan base. I believe he is from Tijuana and San Diego, living in both places as a child. He truly crosses over (which is a any team’s dream for their franchise face) and is hands down the best player on the team. They already sold off Peavey, moving A-Gon makes no sense for them as they need someone to at least build around.

  53. pat October 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Erica

    Saw this and thought of you. :smile:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ent.3.html

  54. gs1 October 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    why is there the sound of a typewriter in the background of the AJ audio? did one of the journalists hop into doc brown’s delorean and travel here from 1955? it makes it very difficult to hear. someone needs to tell that man/woman about this fancy new invention they have now called the “computer.”

  55. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    the Red Sox will sign someone like Bedard or Harden plus an innings eater 5th starter type as insurance:

    Lester
    Beckett
    Daisuke
    Buchholz
    Wakefield/Bedard/Harden

    after this season, the Sox recognize the need for rotation depth. they will again have 6 or 7 possible starters entering 2010.

  56. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    “I hear ya. Just hate that Boston may get all stars for pennies on the dollar because of prior relationships.

    Thankfully, the Padres don’t have too many all stars left.”

    You do realize that NYY basically got Gaudin for free because of Towers/Cashman’s relationship, aye?

    It works both ways =)

  57. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    pat
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    Erica

    Saw this and thought of you.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..ent.3.html

    *****

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I saw that pic the special Jeter section of the Daily News when he broke Gerhig’s record and I wanted it!!! I need to somehow get that printed on glossy and add it to my Yankee pistcure collection (which I confess is really a bunch of Johnny Damon pics). I searched an hour online and could not find it. Thank you! Thank you!

  58. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    MikeBoston,

    And Peavy had a HUGE contract compared to AGonz.

    AGonz is at 2yr/$10.25M

    Peavy was owed $52M over 4 seasons (if they dont pick up his final year option)

  59. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    My point is exactly that; The Red Sox don’t have the pieces to land Gonzales, but Hoyer would be more apt to deal with his old team and will take what Theo will give him and sell it to his ownership and fanbase (with Gammons’ help) as a great deal for the Padres.

    All the players I listed Boston would trade aren’t worth Adrian Gonzales.

  60. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    the above comment was copied & pasted

    ****

    OH! Nevermind then. You have never typed a comment using capital letters at all. Thats why I was suspicious

    ——————————————————-

    good catch

    i think it was a sam borden article

  61. Laura - I like the new and improved Alex! He's a keeper. October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    I think that AJ feeds off of CC a lot and will want to follow in his footsteps. Look for him to have a good outing tomorrow. He may have his traditional “one bad inning”, but the damage won’t be anything we can’t come back from. The key will be us getting to Lackey early. When we score first, we put LAA on the defensive.

  62. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    pat
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    Erica

    Saw this and thought of you.
    ****

    Btw- I believe the Daily News caption was “Even Elmo loves Derek Jeter” LOL

  63. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Huge difference between Gaudin who was about to hit the waiver wire in some reports and Adrian Gonzales.

  64. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    http://www.lohud.com/article/2...../910210355

  65. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    good catch

    i think it was a sam borden article
    ******

    You got it. Just looking out :-)

  66. Sam Borden October 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    To those who asked: Jeter has a cold. Doesn’t seem serious at all. He’s out on the field taking BP and Girardi said he did not know of anyone else in the clubhouse who was battling anything.

  67. Patrick October 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Knock Callis all you want, but I have no problem with anything he’s said in that chat. He’s no keith law but he’s a pretty bright guy.

  68. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Yankees may want to consider Ben Sheets if they get him for a steal, since he is coming off surgery. Cannot hurt to have pitching depth in case Joba struggles again this year, or Hughes battles. Wang is out until August or Sept so every pitcher can help and i assume sheets would come cheap on a 1 year deal.

  69. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Sorry Pat. If you want to impress Erica than these are the photos she wants.

    http://images.google.com/image.....CBgQsAQwAA

  70. Patrick October 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Why are we talking about 2010 when the Yankees are on the verge of making the world series?

  71. jenna October 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    had no idea that Jeter was sick… just shows what kind of player he is!

  72. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Yankee Trader
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Sorry Pat. If you want to impress Erica than these are the photos she wants.

    ****

    LOL. I love Muppets and the Yankees (especially Johnny)

    When you combine the two its magic. Pat hit the nail on the head :-)

  73. five iron from fenway October 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    G – If the Padres make that deal for Gonzalez then the GM should be brought out to the square and publicly flogged. No way a GM makes that his first move. You would need to add guys like Casey Kelley and Ryan Westmoreland to that mix.

  74. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    because we have talked about everything we can talk about regarding 2009. and it is the off-day. slow news.

  75. Drive 4-5 October 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I’ll be disappointed if Posada isnt the DH tomorrow. To not use the flexibilty gained from carrying 3 catchers renders Cervelli’s roster spot useless.

  76. SJ44 October 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    People thought the same thing about Jon Daniels because of his closeness to Theo.

    It doesn’t work that way.

    If Jed Hoyer gets that job, he’s going to do what’s best for him.

    Trading Adrian Gonzalez insures the Padres will draw 5,000 people a game and really hurt their franchise.

    He’s a big drawing card in SD because of his talent and Mexican descent.

    If he is traded, its not going to be for spare parts.

  77. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    I have a gut feeling (having spoken to him a couple weeks ago) that Jason Bay won’t be back with the Red Sox.

    Even with Jason Bay, the Sox needed to add offense.

    If they lose Bay, they may very well panic and give Holliday the mega-contract he and Boras covet.

    I assume the Red Sox will add a SS (Hardy from Milwaukee is my guess).

    I definitely think they will offer Papelbon and JD Drew and see what they can get back (not saying they trade them – jsut dangle them).

  78. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    People like Chris Young (injured so bigtime pennies on the dollar, with SD eating some/lots contract) and Heath Bell (big arbitration raise coming) are more likely to get dealt from San Diego than Gonzalez. They still have to get some people to show up at the stadium, and A-Gonz is a huge local draw due to his local footprint & ethnicity.

  79. Mike Stanley October 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    What’s with all the comments about Boston’s hot stove plans? The Yanks are about to clinch the AL pennant and you’re talking about potential Padres/Sox moves? You must be joking.

  80. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    A lot of these guys will sway whatever way the wind is blowing. Right now it’s blowing through New York.

    They’ll forget all the negative stuff they wrote about the Yankees and their prospects.

  81. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Two thoughts:
    First Adrian Gonzalez I believe only makes about 5m a year so I dont think he will be traded until at least mid 2011 possibly prior to 2011 season.
    Second Kevin Towers and Brian Cashman are really good friends and it means nothing on the trade front. If friendship meant anything to gms Peavy probably would have been a Yankee as well as Heath Bell. Especially since Towers had to know he was getting fired. Hoyer is going to make the best trade possible for his team. The last thing a “rookie” gm wants to do is trade a star to his former employer as a favor to a friend.

  82. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Here’s a question for 2010 rooted very much in the present.

    I had thought the Yanks would let Molina go and go with Cervelli next year, which would save them about $1.5MM. But since Girardi seems to believe AJ needs Molina to throw well, will the Yanks keep Molina next year after all?

  83. Tom in N.J. October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Jed Hoyer is rumored to be the next Padre’s G.M.-he already works in Boston under Theo..

  84. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Erica-had to take a peek at your picture-that is awesome!

  85. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    jenna,

    Jeter was coughing all night in the dugout. As long as he doesn’t have the flu I think he’s good.

  86. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Yankees may want to consider Ben Sheets if they get him for a steal, since he is coming off surgery.
    ———————————————————

    Sheets is what, 30 years old? Could be a good pickup.

    Red Sox will be more concerned with resigning Bay, and finding a way to dump DiceK.

  87. tex's friend October 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    forget boston, they are a non-factor….

    Looking forward to the I-95 World Series.

  88. mick October 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    I would shake up the lineup tomorrow.

    Swisher has been clueless and needs a game off.

    Start Gardner in CF, Melky in RF.

    Let Posada DH behind Alex again. That worked.

    Chances are we are back on stride and will hit so Molina can be in there for AJ as long as needed.

    Chances are Joe could go with this as he has been aggressive.
    You can always pinchhit Matsui for Molina and catch Cervelli, that’s why they have a 3rd catcher. Worse that could happen, if Cervelli got hurt you catch Posada and lose the DH. CC can hit.
    Go for the kill.

  89. upstate kate October 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Erica
    did you check out the rest of the pix from that article? There is one of Jeter and your PBF (in his sox uni)eyeing each other suspiciously.

  90. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Let the Sox have Adrian Gonzalez. They can have Juan Gonzalez too for all I care.

    The Yankees are 1 win away from going back to the WS and 5 wins away from another parade.

    The Sox are more than Adrian Gonzalez away from having a better team than the Yankees next year.

  91. m October 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    WYH,

    If the Yankees keep Molina, it won’t be for AJ. It’ll be for catching depth. Cervelli was the third catcher and helped us a lot when we lost the first 2 catchers to injury at the same time.

    But someone brought up the fact that Cervelli’s out of options.

  92. mick October 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    I-95 series is for hicks and has been used before Balt-Philly 1983.

    This is the East Coast Brawl.

  93. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    This is the Game 1 Boxscore. Matsui will DH tomorrow.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxsco…..b_nyamlb_1

  94. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ent.1.html

    jeters rookie card

  95. haiku-man October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Don’t be fooled.If it’s a Scot Boras client,it’s mandatory to Yankee name drop to raise the price,and get interest.

    Holliday wants STL to cough up the Benjamins(bucks).Pujols alreay said he wants them to sign Holliday,if they want him to stay.Albert wants a contending team.

  96. SJ44 October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Wave,

    I would keep Molina for one more year for 2 reasons:

    1. They can afford to keep him. He won’t command huge dollars and he is still a valuable asset to the team.
    2. While some fans may go ga ga over Cervelli, there is no guarantee he is going to hit enough to be an everyday ML catcher. A full year in AAA, along with Montero, will give the Yankees a better read on their future catching situation.

    One more year of Molina makes sense to me as opposed to letting him go to Boston (where he would end up) and not knowing if Cervelli and/or Montero can be the future catcher of the team.

    One more year gives the Yankees a clearer picture, IMO.

  97. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ent.2.html

    this is for the ladies

  98. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Erin
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    Erica-had to take a peek at your picture-that is awesome!

    ****

    I am glad you saw it. Elmo should be shared :-)

  99. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    m,

    No way the Yanks go with three catchers during the regular season other than for short periods as a precaution against injury. They’ll have to decide between Cervelli and Molina.

  100. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Sorry about the game one boxscore which came thru on my 3:24 PM post, but Matsui went 2 for 3 with 2 runs batted in.

  101. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    If I were the Yanks I might take a flyer on Sheets as well. Obviously a lot depends on Pettite and Hughes and Joba.
    I personally think CC AJ HUGHES and Joba are all starters next season and #5(not in that order is Andy) If Joba goes to the pen Sheets would be a fit. Also Kennedy has looked really good and may get a shot. (reliever or starter)

  102. Patrick October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    The Padres have no incentive to trade Gonzalez. He is cheap, elite talent.

    The Yanks should definitely let Molina go. Cervelli is a fine back-up.

    I’d DH Posada tomorrow. Matsui is not hitting well and Posada has good career numbers vs Lackey.

    Ben Sheets on the Yankees next year? No.

  103. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    upstate kate
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    Erica
    did you check out the rest of the pix from that article? There is one of Jeter and your PBF (in his sox uni)eyeing each other suspiciously.

    ****

    I have seen that one. Best SI cover ever (IMO)

  104. bru October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....nt.11.html

    this is for erica

  105. Tom in N.J. October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Does Cervelli have any options left?

  106. pat October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    pcaldera A-Rod just launched one in BP toward the rocks in left center at Angel Stadium, and someone behind the Yanks’ cage yelled, “Fore!”
    24 minutes ago from web

    :smile:

  107. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    “Red Sox will be more concerned with resigning Bay, and finding a way to dump DiceK.”

    —————-

    I asked Jason Bay 2 weeks ago if he would be looking to buy a house in MA (I was with a real estate agent).

    He said “I wouldn’t count on it but we’ll see what happens”

    He definitely didn’t seem too optimistic about resigning with the Sox.

    My guess is that the Sox approached him with several offers throughout the season (hoping to keep him from hitting free agency).

    They likely finished with their top offer and Bay still rejected it.

  108. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    SJ44,

    Personally, I would pray that Boston signs Molina if the Yanks let him go, although many here would disagree with me.

    I do agree with you that the jury is very much out on Cervelli as a hitter, although everyone believes he is excellent defensively. And how much worse a hitter than Molina can Cervelli be?

  109. NYY626 October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    m
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    jenna,

    Jeter was coughing all night in the dugout. As long as he doesn’t have the flu I think he’s good.
    ____________________________________________________________
    Jeter’s been hacking up a lung ever since he had to sit out of those two subway series games on his birthday/day after. I don’t think he ever fully got rid of the cough.

    I’m kinda torn about tomorrow. I really want to clinch ASAP because mentally speaking I don’t handle playoff losses well. But it would be so awesome to win at home! Anyway MLB changes their mind and lets them play in the bronx tomorrow? :)

  110. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    I’d be shocked if Sheets didn’t sign with Nolan Ryan and the Rangers.

    Think Erik Bedard instead.

  111. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    As far as catching I think we are seeing the last of Molina. Cervelli will not have any options left next season.

  112. iiicollies October 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Boston Dave

    How do you know Bay?

  113. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Already talking trades and signings and we haven’t finished the season yet!!

    Maybe the Yankees should sign Manny!!!! LOL!

  114. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    TOM
    I believe Cervelli is out of options unless he gets more due to new season but i dont think he does.

  115. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..nt.11.html

    this is for erica

    ***

    Thanks bru. It still makes me smile :-)

  116. NYY626 October 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..ent.2.html

    this is for the ladies
    ____________________________________________________________
    The first time I ever saw this picture I died laughing. Haven’t laughed as hard until yesterday when I saw the butt grab shot :)

    I can not imagine how much Jeter and Alex regret doing that photo shoot…..

  117. Yankee Trader October 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Varitek has a 3M player option plus they have Martinez. No-one would give more to Varitek at this stage in his career.

  118. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Anyone know AJs lines with Cervelli behind the plate this year?

  119. Drive 4-5 October 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    “The Sox are more than Adrian Gonzalez away from having a better team than the Yankees next year.”

    You mean like a catcher that throws out more than 14% of attempted steals, a left fielder if Bay moves on, a shortstop, 2 starting pitchers, a reliable setup man that costs less than $200,000/ inning and a right fielder that can show up for work more than 2/3 of the season?

  120. MaineYankee October 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Boston Dave – 5 wins to go!
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    I’d be shocked if Sheets didn’t sign with Nolan Ryan and the Rangers.

    Think Erik Bedard instead.

    —————————————————
    I’m not sure Bedard would handle NY very well. Sounds like a lack of passion for the game from things I’ve read.

  121. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    “Boston Dave

    How do you know Bay?”

    ————

    I got to hang out with many of the Sox players a couple weeks ago at a charity event. I have friends who work for the Sox and one of them is friendly with Varitek and his personal trainer.

    Beckett was a complete jerk. Francona was also a bit unfriendly which was surprising (I’ll assume he was just in a bad mood).

    Jed Lowrie was actually a really nice, cool guy. Bay was really cool too.

    Youk was ok but I still wanted to deck him :)

    The others were as you’d expect (Ellsbury = pretty boy, etc)

  122. Scared of the Wall October 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    SJ44,

    Personally, I would pray that Boston signs Molina if the Yanks let him go, although many here would disagree with me.

    I do agree with you that the jury is very much out on
    Cervelli as a hitter, although everyone believes he is excellent defensively. And how much worse a hitter than Molina can Cervelli be?
    ________________________________________________________

    If Molina doesn’t resign here, I wouldn’t want the Sox to sign him. He is a vast improvement over Varitek and Martinez in terms of defense.

    Boston’s catchers threw out only 13% of baserunners and gave up 151 stolen bases, the worst in the league. I’d rather it stay that way….

  123. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Drive,

    Exactly!

  124. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    NYY626
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
    bru
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..ent.2.html

    this is for the ladies
    ____________________________________________________________
    The first time I ever saw this picture I died laughing. Haven’t laughed as hard until yesterday when I saw the butt grab shot

    I can not imagine how much Jeter and Alex regret doing that photo shoot…..

    ******

    Seriously. That picture is bad.

  125. timo October 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Neil
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
    Only Jeter, Posada, and Mo remember 2004. Andy had gone to Houston. Torre was the manager.
    It’s never fair to compare teams of 5 years ago.
    _________________________________________________

    So you’re saying Alex and Hideki are amnesiacs?

  126. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    “I’m not sure Bedard would handle NY very well. Sounds like a lack of passion for the game from things I’ve read.”

    —————

    I don’t disagree… but from the Yankee fan wishlist pool of injury-riddled top talent starters who would sign 1yr deals….

    Sheets – I think he’s a Ranger
    Bedard
    Harden

  127. ADam October 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Soooo Pumped for tomorrows Game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  128. CC Rider October 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    eric wedge’s muppet mouth
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
    Jeter’s health? What is wrong with him?
    ———-
    Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter has been ‘pretty sick’ all week

    Derek Jeter has been fighting a virus, cold or flu bug of some sort, Yankees manager Joe Girardi confirmed this morning.

    “I noticed it on Monday,” Girardi said. “And he was pretty sick. He was still pretty sick yesterday.

    “I’m hoping that he feels better, but it didn’t seem to affect him Monday his first at-bat. That’s just the type of player that Derek is. He’s tough.”

    Jeter has been coughing throughout his interview sessions and today I’m told he was speaking in a whisper. But he’s out there with his teammates right now, so no bug will keep him off the field, even for a workout.

    Still, it’s in the mid 80s here and Jeter is taking batting practice in a hooded sweatshirt. So he might want to steer clear from flying champagne, if that’s tomorrow night.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.1537976

  129. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    so far this new obsession with speed has been overrated.

    gardner has been thrown out twice, guzman has been a wasted roster spot, hinske was a no-brainer with Molina and the pinchrunners, see game 3, hairston behind alex in the 5 hole, pathetic.

    Starting Gardner over Swisher is just to clear his cobwebs.

    Free Jorge Posada. Let him DH.

  130. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    “so far this new obsession with speed has been overrated.”

    ———–

    it hasn’t worked so far but I wouldnt count speed out just yet. Its not just about stolen bases. its about going 1st to 3rd, scoring from 2nd, hit and runs, scoring on a sac fly, etc.

    just ask that bastard Dave Roberts about speed on the bases in the playoffs :(

  131. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    sorry mick, but with that kind of thinking, if you managed this squad we wouldn’t even be in the playoffs. why don’t you go ahead and complain about the lineup before it comes out tomorrow too? I said it after game 3…even though I scratched my head at Joe taking out Robertson who was looking pretty unhittable, I quickly decided it was the right move because Joe in his gut felt that it was right…I’ve contended numerous decisions he’s made through out the year but it’s always worked out for the Yankees (you know, best record in baseball, 6-1 in the playoffs, etc…) so it’s Joe’s call to make.

  132. MaineYankee October 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Boston Dave

    Don’t be surprised to see the RS in on those pitchers.

    I agree with you about Sheets -Texas.

    I’ve heard some noise about the RS having interest in Bedard.

    It sounds like they may try to keep A Gon for short for next year.

  133. ADam October 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    The Formula Tomorrow should be pretty Easy…. AJ for 6 Strong with a lead (I say that a lot) and hand it over to the pen.

    And I Really Really hope that D-ROB is picked before Joba in the pecking Order… The Guys over at RAB had a great piece how D-ROB not Joba is the third best reliever….

  134. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    “If Molina doesn’t resign here, I wouldn’t want the Sox to sign him. He is a vast improvement over Varitek and Martinez in terms of defense.”

    Take a look at the defensive ratings for catchers at the link below (the CSRuns column shows the runs above/below average saved by a catcher’s arm):

    http://www.drivelinemechanics......filling-in

    If you believe these ratings, you have to figure the Sox will have a better throwing catcher next year. It also appears that Molina was a little below average in throwing out runners this year.

  135. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    just because the angels have speed doesn’t mean we have to match it and our lineup has enough speed as is.a guzman served no purpose during the season, why now? anyway we win with power and patient hitters. it has served no purpose and probably cost us a game. get over dave roberts, that was a fluke and he didnt win that series for them. we gave that away…no starting pitching will do that.

  136. PittsburghYankeeFan October 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    I agree that Jed Hoyer does what’s best for SD if he’s the GM. He knows the Sox inside and out, so he won’t exactly get fleeced. What happened to the rumors of Karen (?) Ng getting the job there as the first female GM?

    Molina is cheap and good. Agree that give him 1-2 years at $1.5 million or so. If he wants more, then say bye and go with Cervelli until everyone can see if Montero has it defensively.

    The SP situation is interesting. Job#1 is to get Andy to sign for one more year. I suspect this will take a guarantee of at least $8-10 million with incentives. The guy was 14-8, after all, in the AL East.

    Rotation of CC, AJ, Pettitte, Hughes, Joba. Sign Wang to an incentive laden deal, maybe an extra vested year if he gets back on the roster by August 1st. Test Wang out for 8 weeks until October, with the idea of signing Roy Halliday to a 4 year contract in 2011 if Wang is finished. Robertson is the 8th inning guy for 2011, with Bruney/Coke as 7th. Damaso Marte is going nowhere, and actually has looked good in the postseason (I bite my tongue as I say this). Aceves is the long man, with Gaudin as the spot/long guy as well.

    Sign one of Matsui or Damon. I suspect if the Yanks win the WS, Matsui will go back to Japan to finish his career. Damon wants to play for NYY, but Boras as usual will get in the way (trying to get his client the best deal, of course).

    Interesting decision whether Holliday signs with NYY, or if they want him. Last two guys who signed with NYY because their parents wanted them to: Giambi and Pavano–that should tell us something?

    I don’t see the payroll over $180 million for 2010.

    Sorry for the 2010 ramblings, but the game isn’t on until tomorrow.

  137. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Some of you crack me up.

    What would you like us to talk about in here?

    Jeter’s sniffles? Molina vs. Posda for the 1000th time?

    Give me a break. I saw the news about the Padres naming a Red Sox front office guy GM and my mind dares to wander to thinking they might have an edge in a trade.

    Forget I brought it up or anyone else discussed it.

    Shall we start guessing the lineup instead?

    How about how Arod is in a good place? More thoughts on that?

  138. upstate kate October 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Jeter set the tone w/ his attempted steal last night. Even if all the steals were not successful, they still rattle the pitcher. The Angels are touted as a running team, but even they are not necessarily successful, its the additional pressure they put on the pitcher and infielders, never knowing when a steal may be attempted.

  139. m October 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    We’ve gotten caught a few times, but I like the pressure that we’ve been putting on the Angels. Jeter and Alex especially, have been aggressive on the bases. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. But, sooner or later you’ll see errors because of the aggressiveness. And sometimes, guys are even called safe and rightfully so!

    I know that crazy mark grace was mumbling something about whether the yankees were going to be bullies or tough guys after being punched in the mouth on monday.

    I think the Yankees are bludgeoning teams with their pitching, hitting, and general aggressiveness. These aren’t your 2004-2008 Yankees.

  140. 100 pitches of fun... October 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    They absolutely can not sit Posada tomorrow. He is one of their 3 hottest hitters and he needs to bat behind Arod. Matsui is totally lost and Arod won’t get any pitches to hit with him batting behind him. Leave Molina behind the plate and if they need Matsui to pinch hit for him later on in the game they will deal with that when the time comes.

  141. PittsburghYankeeFan October 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Lackey is going to Texas. This could be his last game as an Angel.

  142. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    that is just hokie, hill.

    you are all over the place.

    where was I “complaining” about a lineup?

    what got us to the playoffs was power and pitching.
    sorry we’re not a little ball team.

  143. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    MaineYankee,

    I absolutely agree.

    I’d be a little surprised if the Sox don’t sign one of Bedard/Harden.

    The Smoltz experiment failed but they’ll give that strategy another shot in 2010.

    I’d actually like the Yankees to keep Pettitte and Wang and try a similar strategy by adding a couple high risk/high reward guys.

    You can never have too much pitching.

  144. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    100 pitches

    Thank you.

  145. DT - OPPC member October 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    The Yanks can clinch a trip to the World Series tomorrow and you guys are talking about Ben Sheets? Sheets?

    Okay, where is long post Dave? I know he is behind this.

  146. PittsburghYankeeFan October 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    G Love

    ARod is in an amazing palce. Jason Zillo is the real team MVP this year. Who would have thought that the PR guy would play such an important role on this team?

  147. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    G. Love -

    How about more hypothetical trades for Roy Halladay??? We haven’t touched that topic since the trade deadline :-)

  148. 100 pitches of fun... October 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    I read that Swisher worked with Long on his swing 5 hours before yesterday game. He looked much better at the plate and didn’t swing at those terrible curveballs. Too bad he didn’t work with Long a day before than maybe he would of been able to hit a sac fly in one of those at bats.

  149. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    “Last two guys who signed with NYY because their parents wanted them to: Giambi and Pavano–that should tell us something?”

    ————

    I thought it was also going to be Gerrit Cole on that list.

    GRRRRR!!!!

  150. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Jason Zillo angered me when he refused to grant Jane Heller access to the Yankees when she was writing her book about being a Yankee fan

  151. Sid Wish-cious October 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    God, would love to see a repeat of 2004! If anybody can do it. It would be the ChokeMasters in the Bronx!

    Go Angels!

  152. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    G. Love

    How about some good cookie recipes?

  153. m October 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Since when can’t we talk about the future? Of course the future is now. :)

  154. iiicollies October 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    G Love

    There’s the always popular Muppets

  155. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I’m down with cookie recipes. Anything with peanut butter will suffice.

    Otherwise I wonder if we can trade Igawa, Pena and Mitre straight up for Hallyday. We’d be giving the Jays 2 solid starting pitchers and their SS of the future!!!

  156. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    100 pitches

    Funny how Swish has been anything but loose.

    Pressure will do that to you.

    Perhaps he is not as loose as we think.

  157. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    We can talk about MUPPETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  158. GreenBeret7 October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Tom in N.J.
    October 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
    Does Cervelli have any options left?

    ————————————————————

    The Yankees signed Cervelli in September of 2003 and he spent 2003 and 2004 in the Dominican Leagues, so, yeah, he’s out of options. NYY has had him under contract for more than 6 years.

  159. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    It’s the off day…

    we are free to talk about wild, unlikely and even ridiculous offseason moves.

    or how bad Tim McLelland is.

    or Steve Phillips and which of his mistresses was the most aesthetically pleasing.

    tomorrow it’s back to the task at hand.

  160. michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Hey Sam or Chad or Whoever,

    What do the yankees do on days off like this. Are they going out to the movies, playing pool, hanging out in their hotels, taking their kids to disney land? A little insight on the dayoff would be awesome.

  161. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    iiicollies
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    G Love

    There’s the always popular Muppets
    ****

    We are totally on the same page :-)

  162. Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    I am personally going to lobby for there to be a Kate Hudson Day at the Stadium next year if the Yankees win the whole thing. We could talk about what number to retire in Monument Park in her honor. I would go with 0, as in the number of good movies she’s made in her career (well, I did kind of like Almost Famous but it wasn’t because of her so I feel like that’s exempt)

  163. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Erica,

    just watched the muppets take manhattan this morning (with a 3 year old – but it was my choice from the options)

    :)

  164. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I just made ginger molasses cookies the other day…

  165. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I have an idea …let’s talk about hamburgers.

  166. Scared of the Wall October 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Why can’t we talk about things other than the ALCS? There are so many off days so this seems like a good time to talk about other things going in the baseball world. It is already the offseason for all but 4 teams, no harm in discussing it.

  167. vb03 October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Hey the trolls can put two words together and make ONE word! They’ve graduated from having the IQ of a tomato to having the IQ of a piece of lettuce.

  168. 100 pitches of fun... October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    How many hours until game time? lol

  169. KF October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Erica,
    I agree, Jane Heller would have been a good pr move that really didn’t cost anything. She’s also a big fan

  170. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    AJ news conference

  171. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Yay, another Muppet discussion!!! :)

  172. G. Love October 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Best Muppet ever? Rowlf hands down.

    Discuss.

  173. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Boston Dave – 5 wins to go!
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    Erica,

    just watched the muppets take manhattan this morning (with a 3 year old – but it was my choice from the options)

    *****

    I still cry at the end when Kermie and Miss Piggy get married

  174. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    says he won’t pitch if posada is in the park…j/k

  175. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Boston Dave – 5 wins to go!
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    Erica,

    just watched the muppets take manhattan this morning (with a 3 year old – but it was my choice from the options)

    *************
    Best Muppet movie ever.

  176. Neil October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Getting Adrian Gonzalez would see Boston virtually cornering the market with 1st basemen.
    Casey Kotchman must be thrilled about it.
    Back to reality, Boston doesn’t have the pieces to get Gonzalez unless Papelbon is in the mix.

  177. michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Best muppet hands down is the Swedish Chef.

  178. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    who were those 2 old muppets?

  179. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    KF
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    Erica,
    I agree, Jane Heller would have been a good pr move that really didn’t cost anything. She’s also a big fan

    *****

    I just thought it was disgusting that not only would he not help her, but everytime she tried others he seemed to appear out of nowhere and smack her down

  180. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    mick-that would be Statler and Waldorf

  181. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Fozzie Bear
    Wocka Wocka Wocka

    (nothing else needs to be said)

  182. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    “Best Muppet ever? Rowlf hands down.

    Discuss.”

    ————-

    I have to go with Lew Zealand (the guy who throws fish) and Crazy Harry (who blows things up).

    but I’m a weirdo…

  183. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    what purpose did they serve?

  184. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    I’m a fan of the french shrimp muppet…not sure what his name is…

  185. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    statler and waldorf are pretty phat (that’s “ph” fat… like Lil Kim)

  186. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    Best muppet hands down is the Swedish Chef.

    ***********
    I just got my Swedish Chef Christmas ornament from Hallmark last weekend. I love it. Last year’s was Statler and Waldorf and I about wore the battery out from playing it so much.

  187. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    27 hours and 36 minutes until Game 5!!!!!!
    (Hang in there everyone)

  188. pat October 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    For the abuse Girardi has gotten for his bullpen management, Scoscia just said the way the Yankees have mixed and matched their pitchers it has not let the Angels get a good read on them.

  189. iiicollies October 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Mick

    You mean Statler and Waldorf? Up in the balcony?

  190. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    here is the Muppet master list:

    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/C.....Characters

  191. Tom in N.J. October 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Lew Zealand or Zoot.

  192. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Best Muppet? I think I’d have to go with Fozzie. I’ve always loved Gonzo too.

  193. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    iiicollies

    i guess that’s them.

  194. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    is there a Pedroia muppet?

  195. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Tom in N.J.
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    Lew Zealand or Zoot.

    **********
    Zoot is the man! I love the entire band.

  196. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    I have to leave work now for a doctor’s appointment. I am really sad I am going to miss the muppet discussion. :-(

    Catch you all later

  197. michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show October 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    i love Bunson and Beaker too…

  198. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a true believer in the AJ-Molina tandem and Chad Gaudin's effectiveness October 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    OT in a sense, though it was a topic of previous discussion.

    I’m just catching up from earlier and I need to say this somewhere, and get the words out.

    Regarding Steve Phillips latest paramour – HOLY COW!

    I don’t mean to be extremely superficial, and I am probably doing just that, but does the man have eyes??? Here is a man that is relatively easy on the eyes with a ton of money. Maybe he figured that nobody would believe that there was anything going on if he hung out with someone unattractive, I don’t know, but jeeze louise.

    This is not to condone his actions because I can’t even get that far. I’m still stuck on the “are you serious????” aspect of the situation.

    Thanks for letting me get that out!

  199. Erica - always OPPC October 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Oh- and no, I was not being sarcastic. I am really sad :-(

  200. 100 pitches of fun... October 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    has not let the Angels get a good read on them.
    ———————-

    That was the reason he uses 10 pitchers a night. It was all in Girardi’s book. I can’t believe people really thought he didn’t know what he was doing…lol

  201. KF October 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Erica,
    I don’t know what Zillo (who’s helped Arod this yr) had against her. Her site is an amusing read.

  202. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    aha! it was Pepe the King Prawn and he was Spanish!

  203. MR.OCTOBER October 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    PITTSBURGH YANKEE FAN
    I agree that all of your points (great post) except the Molina point. I agree molina is good and cheap but I am pretty sure Cervelli is out of options which means he will be backing up next year. I havent thought about M Holliday much but I am not usually fond of the big signings unless its absolutely necessary. (CC TEX) Also not sure if the Yanks need/want him. Agreed Andy for another year would be great. Joba Hughes Pettite CC AJ in 2010 is most likely. Lets not forget about Ian Kennedy (I know he really stunk in the SHORT time he was up) but has lit it up since then and since the injury. (possible bullpen arm with chance of starting in future) Wang on an incentive laden deal also makes sense GOOD JOB

  204. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Boston Dave

    Thanks for the wiki…that is quite a cast….hard to keep up with all of them….kind of a cult.

  205. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    trisha,

    where can i see a pic of his latest floozie?

  206. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a true believer in the AJ-Molina tandem and Chad Gaudin's effectiveness October 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “For the abuse Girardi has gotten for his bullpen management, Scoscia just said the way the Yankees have mixed and matched their pitchers it has not let the Angels get a good read on them.”

    :)

    Funny nobody came up with that as a possibility when the nonstop railing and gnashing of teeth was going on! But I guess rational thoughts don’t necessarily pervade the thoughts of posters who are railing and gnashing their teeth.

  207. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    haha, Pepe the King Prawn

    Angels fans are still complaining about spitballs and blown calls…

    we’re having a blast talking about Pepe the King Prawn and the other Muppets!

    :)

  208. mick October 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    100 pitches

    LOL. where can I get my hands on Joe’s book.

    He will be on with Mike at 5.

  209. Tom in N.J. October 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    BD:

    http://deadspin.com/5386749/es.....-depravity

  210. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a true believer in the AJ-Molina tandem and Chad Gaudin's effectiveness October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Oh my God, BD, prepare yourself. Seriously.

    I of course would like your feedback. :)

    http://www.nypost.com/Page/nyp.....illips.xml

  211. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    the best muppet ever is Dr Teeth!

  212. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    And The Great Muppet Caper was the best movie, imo.

    but they are making more, i’ve heard…

  213. tom tresh 15 October 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Hey Sam or Chad or Whoever,

    What do the yankees do on days off like this. Are they going out to the movies, playing pool, hanging out in their hotels, taking their kids to disney land? A little insight on the dayoff would be awesome.
    ***********************************************************

    This is a workout day at the park. After that who knows

  214. DT - OPPC member October 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    I found out why that little kid was crying on the FOX broadcast last night….

    http://tinyurl.com/yjf8h4o

  215. GreenBeret7 October 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Why in the world would Jeff Moorad allow his new general manager to give away his biggest bat and drawing card for a handful 2nd and 3rd line minor leaguers? The new GM is trying to make a name for himself, not torpedo his career. No team would ever hire him again.

  216. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    saucY
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
    And The Great Muppet Caper was the best movie, imo.

    but they are making more, i’ve heard…

    ************
    I always thought that Caper had the best music of all of the movies, but nothing beats Muppets Take Manhattan for me. :)

  217. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Trisha, if that girl was a friend and I was trying to hook her up with another friend, and he asked, “so, what’s she like?” I know I would have to start that response with, “well, she has a great personality…”

    That’s the best way I could think to describe my reaction to those pictures…

  218. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    tom and trisha,

    I’ll just say no comment (I still try to subscribe to the theory that if you dont have something nice to say you shouldnt say anything at all – at least for people I know nothing about :) )

  219. pat October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    trisha

    As someone of the age that has seen friends split up because of affairs and having worked with a few people who have had them, I’ve come to believe that they are more about how the affair makes them feel about themselves than what the homewrecker looks like. :wink:

  220. tom tresh 15 October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Phillips girlfriend or supposed girlfriend is not much of a looker

  221. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    “For the abuse Girardi has gotten for his bullpen management, Scoscia just said the way the Yankees have mixed and matched their pitchers it has not let the Angels get a good read on them.”

    These kind of statements don’t mean much, IMO. Scoscia isn’t going to criticize Girardi’s bullpen management. If Girardi had just used one or two relievers Scosia would have said something nice about that, too.

  222. Drive 4-5 October 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    “I am personally going to lobby for there to be a Kate Hudson Day at the Stadium next year if the Yankees win the whole thing.”

    Here here! They should even give her a playoff cut!

  223. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    here’s the new one

    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/T....._Ever_Made

    i dig

  224. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Scoscia isn’t in a position to criticize anything about Girardi’s management against the Angels…not because he’s trying to be PC, but because his Angels are getting waxed by Girardi and the rest of the Yankees.

  225. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Tom,

    I hope you read the comments on the link you sent me

    http://deadspin.com/5386749/es.....-depravity

    funny stuff

  226. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    i liked the muppets take manhattan, but the caper was more of classic to me. maybe i’m just older.

  227. Wave Your Hat October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    “Scoscia isn’t in a position to criticize anything about Girardi’s management against the Angels…not because he’s trying to be PC, but because his Angels are getting waxed by Girardi and the rest of the Yankees.”

    That too.

  228. Hokiehill October 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    I really hope the Muppets can take off again…I’d rather watch that stuff with my kid then crap like The Little People, Barney, Tella-Tubbies, etc…

  229. michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show October 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Tom Tresh_

    thanks for the insight – JA

  230. Erin October 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    saucY
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
    i liked the muppets take manhattan, but the caper was more of classic to me. maybe i’m just older.

    **********
    Manhattan came out the year I was born, and I believe it was the first muppet movie I ever saw, so it will always hold a special place for me. :) Caper is excellent though.

  231. GreenBeret7 October 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    trisha – OPPC lifetime member and a true believer in the AJ-Molina tandem and Chad Gaudin’s effectiveness
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Oh my God, BD, prepare yourself. Seriously.

    I of course would like your feedback.

    ————————————————————

    Good God. I can’t see why any woman would want Steve Phillips, but, dating Selena Roberts? Gnaw your arm off at the shoulder and run away, Phillips.

  232. Boston Dave - 5 wins to go! October 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Kate better hope Alex doesn’t do a guest spot on baseball tonight.

    He’d probably get first dibs on the interns.

  233. michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show October 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    GB7-

    i think that is whats called Coyote Ugly!

  234. Rishi October 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    :arrow:

  235. 27 October 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Yeah, that haters are out in full force – and agree with SJ that its because we’re winning.

    Just for kicks, I went to Bostondirtdogs.com today and it was HILARIOUS!! They are 100% focused on trying to pick apart the Yankees and just comes off as bitter and intimidated. Can you picture a website in NY focused just on the Red Sox? Today, they posted something about how great the ’04 series was – so funny that they’re thinking so much about something that happened 5 years ago…don’t you think they should be thinking about 2010?

  236. GreenBeret7 October 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    michelle b. 27 outs till the Big Show
    October 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
    GB7-

    i think that is whats called Coyote Ugly!

    ————————————————————

    That’s not even that good looking. That’s beastly. I’d say that looks aren’t everything, but, apparently, she’s got a few screws loose besides. He’s just an idiot, and, it has nothing to do with her.

  237. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    i remember seeing MTM in a theatre. we wanted to see that instead of ghostbusters…

  238. trisha - OPPC lifetime member and a true believer in the AJ-Molina tandem and Chad Gaudin's effectiveness October 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    “Good God. I can’t see why any woman would want Steve Phillips, but, dating Selena Roberts? Gnaw your arm off at the shoulder and run away, Phillips.”

    :)

    Now here is an interesting proposition. If ESPN allows Steve Phillips to keep his job, Harold Reynolds might be tempted to make a prima facie case of racism. However an employee at ESPN allegedly filed a complaint of sexual harassment against Reynolds. At this point in time it doesn’t appear that this female has taken that step (though she certainly has done a lot more on her own.) Unless ESPN has some kind of dating policy in place, they might have a difficult time firing Phillips – well they can fire him but he might be able to fight it. It all depends on their written policies.

  239. saucY October 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    i wonder if being the face of the MLB *Network* pays better than being the face of the *show* BaseBall tonight…

    i’m sure Reynolds is happy where he is

  240. ArtieA October 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    I thnk the Yankees have their hands full tomorrow. Angels are going to come out hustling tomorrow. AJ has got to be at his very best. Lackey got hurt by bad play from his team last time, I just dont think it’s s going to happen again. This series is going to six on Saturday and I think Andy is going to shut them down.

  241. yankee21 October 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Quiet day so I’d like to add my two cents on the 2010 debate Molina vs. Cervelli, which really does emphasize how quiet today is…

    There are four disadvantages of letting Molina go
    - your main rival, BOS, needs a guy like him
    - you lose your high level catching depth in the event PO goes down
    - you lose a guy that might make a good instructor down the road and one who seems to have a lot of respect for his defensive prowess
    - your #2 pitcher is comfortable with him, giving your #1 catcher a natural day off..

    There are several advantages to letting him go
    - His arm appears to have slipped from last year, he is not the throw out machine he was last year
    - He may be the single worst hitting position player in the ML (a veritable black hole)
    - He is not indispensable,, we do have Cervelli and there are other 2nd tier catchers available
    - Montero is not that far off, so blocking a spot that he might take (maybe late 2010)

    I’d wait and see what BOS does in terms of moving on a catcher, if they get someone else, my choice would be to let him free, if they are sitting around waiting, I’d hold onto him… but for only 1 year

  242. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 21st, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Am I the only one to take Beaker as their random favorite muppet? :)

  243. Paul October 21st, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    So about the WS: is there anyway the Yankees can start lefties five times against the Phillies, whose top 4 don’t include a right-hander? Something like this:

    Game 1: Sabathia
    Game 2: Burnett
    Game 3: Pettite
    Game 4: Sabathia (3 days rest)
    Game 5: Gaudin (or Joba if that’s the plan)
    Game 6: Pettite (or Burnett if you’re playing the hunch)
    Game 7: Sabathia (3 days rest)

    I know Joe will never do this, but IMO I want my ace out there for game 4, which is probably going to be the difference between 2-2 and 3-1 (either way). If we can get up 3-1, I don’t mind lobbing Gaudin out there and playing rope-a-dope for a game.

  244. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips) October 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Either AJ pitches well tomorrow, or we’re all wishing we would have gottent the 10 runs instead of yesterday. ;)

    LET GO YANKEES!

  245. Benny Blanco October 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    I pray and hope AJ is unhittable tomorrow. I want to close this thing out already.

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