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Today in The Journal News

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 24, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

After a disappointing and disheartening loss in Anaheim, the Yankees are coming home to try to wrap up the American League Championship Series and clinch a spot in the World Series. It’s a new Yankee Stadium, but as Sam writes, it’s become a real home for the Yankees. They have yet to lose a playoff game at the new place.

On the mound for the Yankees, who else but Andy Pettitte? As I wrote, Pettitte had to spent Thursday assuming the Yankees were not going to clinch on the road. He has yet to make a postseason start at the new Yankee Stadium, but he has a chance to send the new place into the World Series.

Josh was at the stadium on Friday, and writes that the Yankees are confident heading into Game 6. The notebook also has information on the Yankees sticking with Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain as their setup relievers, a decision to make regarding Nick Swisher and the potential for John Lackey to start Game 7 if the series goes that far.

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  1. angela October 24th, 2009 at 7:12 am

    where’s everybody?

  2. NYY in BTR October 24th, 2009 at 7:35 am

    Sipping coffee wondering what the weather has in store for tonight.

  3. minnesota yankee fan October 24th, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Good morning! Can’t wait for the game tonight. I hope Andy is feeling great and they can cruise to the World Series. Please, no Game 7 – that would be to stressful! Go Yanks!

  4. sbarro philly foot sausage October 24th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    I mentioned this yesterday, but I am still intrigued to hear what everyone thinks.

    I have a question: do you all think that maybe Girardi made a mistake in not adding Cody Ransom to the roster?

    I had an idea last night, that Cody could potentially be inserted as a pinch runner who could steal home or score in a squeeze play at the plate.

    Here’s my thinking: the man can jump from a standing position atop a 60 inch box. When the throw reaches the catcher, the catcher would be in a squatted reach position to tag the runner, in this case, Cody Ransom. But Cody could simply take the catcher by surprise, jump over him and touch the plate.

    What do you guys think? I think it would work, and could be one of the most spectacular plays since the 2001 Jeter shovel pass to Posada in the ALDS.

  5. Jd October 24th, 2009 at 8:43 am

    Bring berrora back too, Cody could ride him towards homeplate before leaping.

  6. Garym(Yanks and More) October 24th, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Lets go Yankees, i will be there tonight and I expect it to be the loudest this stadium has been, lets bring it tonight folks and send our boys to the World Series.

  7. Nyyankspg October 24th, 2009 at 8:50 am

    I say pull swish start harriston

  8. Jeremy October 24th, 2009 at 8:51 am

    It seems like Joe still has not learned his lesson. He just refuses to drop Joba. Joba should not be in any close game because he has failed this entire series. Joe won’t move up Robertson when he is better than Joba.

    If Joba is in this game tonight and he gives up some runs costing the Yankees the game then Girardi needs to be fired. Joba should only be used in blow out games.

  9. Imback October 24th, 2009 at 8:58 am

    The berroa piggyback line sets a high bar for rest of day. Well played

  10. Jd October 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Real simple.
    People have to step it up. If swisher can’t hit.
    Joba, Hughes , can’t get outs. It’s very tough to accomplish anything. No meaningful replacements for these guys either..

  11. NYYanksFan October 24th, 2009 at 9:09 am

    Cops are nicer if you can hit homeruns in October.

    http://www.tmz.com/videos?auto.....1a653e1b18

  12. Imback October 24th, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Hey. A meaningful game in the last week of October in a Saturday night. Lot of storylines, two best teams in al fighting to play defending ws champ. New blog guys so we get good updates instead of the complaints of how “tough” it was hanging out in airports following our favorite team around country as they rack up 100 wins and 15 come from behind victories, chance for new core to begin ws run: Tex, arod, melky, cano, hughes, drob, and joba, – meanwhile the two trams that all the experts picked to finish ahead of us in division are playing gold down south tonight. It’s all good.

  13. Imback October 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am

    Teams and golf. Sorry

  14. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    sbarro – It’s good to be creative, but I think that’s a little bit too creative.

  15. Jeremy October 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Hughes needs to step up. And the team needs to give up on Joba. He is a lost cause right now. Worry about him next year.

  16. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 9:32 am

    All we need is for the weather to cooperate and everything will be fine…it will be interesting to see how Girardi plays this thing out.

  17. 86w183 October 24th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    I assume Ranson and Berroa would replace Jeter and ARod on the post-season roster?

    Seriously though the Yanks are in a position any one of us would have taken back in April. Up 3-2 in the ALCS with pitching lined up ideally and the remaining game(s) at the Stadium.

    Since the Angels are MUCH better against RH pitching I would make Coke the first guy out of the pen tonight.

    Pettite 6 1/3, Coke 1 2/3, Mariano 1, pass the bubbly!

    Starting Hairston over Swish is not something I would do. He is not a good OF so you don’t gain anything. Starting Garder instead gives you much more speed and improved defense. That’s a better move.

  18. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Good morning all.

    It’s been a busy and hectic week here – with out-of-town guests and lots of out and about. Which continues tonight. It seems like a few of the Lohud faithful will be programming their DVRs tonight! I’m figuring 5 hours for the game and 3 or 4 hours for the post-game with a 2-hour overlap!

    I was reading along last night, but was not of mind to add to the great conversations taking place – just too tired, I guess.

    I do a cryptogram each day in the paper (coded quotes) and today’s was by Ralph Waldo Emerson: “Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong.” I thought this was apropos considering the nature of baseball and the conversations about Girardi’s moves. :)

    I haven’t read today’s sports section yet. I’ve got butterflies. Which is good. Didn’t have them on Thursday. I think deep down, as was true for some others here (and my husband), I didn’t really expect to win on Thursday, though of course would have loved it if they did. I always feel with AJ it could go either way. :?

    Let’s go Andy! Let’s go Yankees!

  19. murphydog October 24th, 2009 at 9:45 am

    They think Hughes has had a mechanical issue that can be fixed. Maybe. But he still hadn’t internalized the fix as of the last appearance, lobbing in that fastball to Vladdie.

    I remain far more confident about using Hughes than Joba and I’m sure Eiland and Girardi feel the same way. I trust my eyes more than what Girardi says for public consumption. Seriously, what good would it do to say: “You’re right. We’ve lost confidence in the big kid. He’s out of gas, velocity and movement are gone, his legs are shot, he doesn’t drive the ball, his slider is backing up…” It’s all true whether Girardi says it or not. Bottom line: it’s not like they can replace Joba in this series anyway, so why boot him out verbally.

    I expect lots more matchups and limited use of Joba, at the beginning of an inning and with a short leash. Pettitte leads them to victory today.

  20. YankeeRay October 24th, 2009 at 9:48 am

    Swisher starts against the lefty. If he goes ofer and the Yanks lose then Gardner starts game 7 against the righty.

    We aren’t losing, 6-2 Yanks and Tex homers

  21. Yankee Trader October 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    I’m not in NY, but if it starts raining by early afternoon, it’s not supposed to let up, with wind.

    If the game is played Sunday, when the weather is fine, the Yankees need to win, or it’ll be CC vs Lackey on Monday.

    If the Yankees are lucky enough to win Monday, then it’s AJ vs Lee on Wednesday and possibly Gaudin on Thursday.

    Swisher will not be removed against lefty Saunders for Hairston IMHO.

    We need to win Game 6, and play as if it’s game 7!!!

  22. Abdababdaserser October 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Jd October 24th, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Real simple.
    People have to step it up.

    ______________

    yeah, those darn Yankees don’t want to win, so they are dogging it. Swisher in particular has no desire to get hits. :roll:

  23. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am

    I’ve been trying to decipher the doppler radar since last night.

    Any chance this game gets called in the afternoon?

    I think it’ll be another gametime decision with a possible delay at the start of the game.

    For anyone going tonight, might have to head out there until we hear otherwise.

  24. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am

    From a poster on RAB

    ———————–

    Swish BABIP is REALLY low (.158). Some said how he has the ball really weakly. Well, believe it or not, his LD% in this postseason is 21.1%, higher than his career % of 18.5%. While I believe his is kinda struggling, he has been really unlucky too.

    ————————–

    As I have said before 7 or 8 games does not make a slump. He is too good a player and he is way too unlucky right now for him not to turn it around.

  25. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    I hate it when the weather plays into these series.

    However, I hate it more when guys like Hunter run their mouths…”all the pressure is on the Yankees”, it is like he is trying to use reverse psychology on the Yankees, to make them feel the pressure that is on the Angels.

    The Yankees need to do what the Angels did to them on Thursday and come out of the gate firing on all cylinders…land the first punch and keep on attacking, no letting down or giving away at bats.

    I cannot wait for tonight…I just hope that Mother Nature cooperates.

  26. William Buckner October 24th, 2009 at 9:59 am

    There is no reason to sit Swisher. I understand we are all upset with his slump and it’s killing the team, but there literally isn’t a better option.

    If this nonsense with AJ and Posada hadn’t been allowed, they wouldn’t have carried three catchers and Hinske would be an acceptable replacement. Oh well. Hopefully something was learned through game 5.

    Also, I hope Eiland and Girardi have a bit more faith in Robertson. Obviously at this point Joba should be the LAST man in the pen. Even after Ace and Gaudin. For a multitude of reasons, he’s done. At least this year. I wouldn’t want to see him unless it goes extras or it’s a blow out.

    As for my thoughts for tonight. Yankees win 6-4, but we will all be heading for our scotch in innings 6 through 9. Angels have a lot of heart and won’t go down easy.

  27. murphydog October 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Mike Loopyca alert!

    It’s playoff time for Loopy too, so he trots out all his tricks. Today he constructs a Yankees straw man team that is perfect and unbeatable, playing against a team that is deeply flawed and not trying to win. He gets paid for this?

    He also offers us the sage observation that if the Yankees lose today, a game 7 really gives the Angels confidence. This guy is the Master of the Obvious, that is, when he isn’t being delusional or hyper-aggressive in that Little Chihuahua way of his.

    Tell us Mikey, what color is the sun in your world?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....game6.html

  28. 86w183 October 24th, 2009 at 10:01 am

    If it was regular season they may call it early, but in the post-season the wait and wait and wait……..

    Gardner is a slapper so LH/RH doesn’t make much difference. His career OPS is in the .600s either way.

    Swisher’s OPS this year is virtually identical from either side of the plate.

  29. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    “but we will all be heading for our scotch in innings 6 through 9. Angels have a lot of heart and won’t go down easy.”

    or my wife will be dealing with so called ““Baseball Tourette Syndrome” problem I have.

  30. Giuseppe Franco October 24th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    The Yanks will play tonight. And they will wrap up the AL pennant in the process.

    Trying to predict the weather is a fruitless exercise. Game 1 was supposed to be rained out last week and it hardly rained at all.

    We’ve seen this movie a thousand times this season.

    BTW, the Swish will be in the lineup. It only takes one hit to turn things around, especially if it’s a big hit.

    Have fun watching the celebration tonight.

  31. William Buckner October 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    “or my wife will be dealing with so called ““Baseball Tourette Syndrome” problem I have.”

    I can appreciate. For Yankee fans, this is like a seasonal affective disorder.

  32. Wang IS Taiwan October 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Jeremy/Murphydog:

    I don’t know about Girardi. He’s a donkey (stubborn) and refuses to admit he’s wrong. I couldn’t believe that even after he slept on his assinine decision to put in Aceves, he wouldn’t admit it was mistake. Everyone makes mistakes, but I guess he just doesn’t (in his own mind, at least).

    He hasn’t mentioned anything about using Robertson in tight spots and all Robertson has done is shown true grit and guts. What’s he saving this kid for?

    I have little hope that he’s going to manage smarter in this game. I agree with the posters who’ve written that the players have to take the game OUT of Giradi’s ansy hands and hit those RISP home.

    As you can see, I’m not a fan of our manager.

    But I AM a big fan of our players.

    GO ANDY!

  33. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Put on a pot of coffee or put extra beers in the fridge. If tonight’s game gets played, it looks like about a 10 PM start time according to the NYC weatherdudes/dudettes.

  34. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 10:17 am

    Sitting Swisher now really doesn’t accomplish much. Offensively, whoever replaces him really cannot be counted on for production. And second, it does nothing to change the past – sitting him today doesn’t change his last at bat from Thursday.

    Defensively, maybe Gardner/Melky is an upgrade. Maybe.

    Just as Tex stepped it up Thursday, it is possible that Swish could. So far, they’ve won 3 despite Swish’s offensive woes and only lost 1 that can be directly attributed to him not getting the big hit or walk. (I don’t remember his situations from the Tuesday game, but the Thursday game was glaring since he was the last chance and the last out in that game.)

  35. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am

    Tyler Kepner had an interesting piece in the NY Times today. He writes that that 3-2 pitch to Swish was an 89 mph fastball over the plate. Nick was trying to hit a drive up the middle, could have hit it onto the freeway, but instead just missed it and hit that popup. Taking that with how Hughes’ missed on location to Vladdy, and you have the ballgame. Two players, each just missing. That, as they say, is baseball.

    I think Swish starts today, against the lefty Saunders. Let’s face it, if Brett Gardner was capable of starting in a playoff game, he would have been in the lineup a lot more during the regular season. Brett is what he is – a 4th OF.

    For purely selfish purposes, I hope the game is rained out tonight. I’ve got a dinner to go to tonight, work related, that I cannot get out of, and doing the DVR thing will a)keep me up quite late, and b)force me to listen to Buck and McCarver. Not to mention deprive me of simultaneous comment from this blog!

  36. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    Buckner…It was in full effect on Thursday night around the 7th inning.

  37. Erica - always OPPC October 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    9 hours and 40 minutes until Game 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. Abdababdaserser October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Swisher has been having a tough time. It happens. Every player goes through times when no matter what they do they can’t seem to buy a hit. Even well hit balls seem to go right to a fielder.

    If he helps to drive up the pitch count, then he is still worth being in the lineup.

  39. Bill from NJ October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    According to the radar dopler, the storms are going thru PA and upstate NY. Seems the storm will miss NNJ and the city.

    Maybe a light rain later, but I think this game gets played tonight.

  40. murphydog October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    “or my wife will be dealing with so called ““Baseball Tourette Syndrome” problem I have.”

    Unfortunately BTS (Baseball Tourette’s Syndrome) has proven contagious in my house. My wife has her verbal outbursts in Spanish.

    Swisher would have needed Melky and Cano to explain all the indignities my wife sent his way after that mighty whiff with the bases loaded. Neither was she too pleased with Joba (lets just say it sounded like “Marty Cohen”) or Hughes (hijo de la something something).

    Put it this way: if they disappoint my wife, who is a Bronx native from the Grand Concourse, they will all be Marty Cohens …. and worse.

    Please, Yankees, bring peace to my house; win tonight.

  41. Alex October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 am

    To formerly lets go twins,

    I think conventional wisdom is that the BABIP # for a hitter does not gauge a hitter’s luck factor. For a pitcher, yes. But not necessarily a hitter. Having said that, I am surprised at Swish’s LD%.

  42. Hank October 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am

    “Sitting Swisher now really doesn’t accomplish much.”

    Nonsense.

    Sitting Swisher accomplishes a ton. If you start Gardner, you get better defense and you might even get a hit. If Nick the Clown hits a slow ground ball, it’s an out. Gardner might beat it out. Just get that jack*** out of the lineup. He’s a clown, he’s always been a clown, and it’s mind-boggling why any Yankee fan has taken a liking to the idiot. He and AJ can take their pies and shove them up their choking a**es.

  43. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Murph, or…bendajo’s

  44. Yankee Trader October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Interestingly lefty Fuentes who fares better against lefties, was having great difficulty spotting his pitches against our lefty hitters.

    Damon who is almost hit scorches a liner but an out to Morales.

    A-Rod is walked intentionally

    Matsui walks.

    Cano is hit.

    This would never happen, but if Swisher goes to the plate and bats lefty could he have coaxed a walk and the tying run, leaving Cabrera to become the possible hero?

    Just an observation. Any thoughts?

  45. yankee21 October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    I can’t see Swisher sitting against Saunders, Swisher is due to break out of this funk, and I’ll think he’ll adjust vs. game 2 when Saunders was getting a lot of guys out, including Swisher, with off speed stuff off the plate or low in the zone. The alternative is Gardner in CF (Melky in RF), Gardner of course offers ++ speed and decent D, but knowing Joe G, he’ll stick with the SH Swisher vs. putting another LH hitter in the lineup against Saunders.

    The last two games, the Yankees are not swinging at as much crap as they did the first 3 games. I think they are being more patient. That spells trouble for Saunders.

    If Pettitte pitches like he can, and the weather conditions cooperate, I see the Yankees winning this one 5-3…

  46. Wave Your Hat October 24th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    murphydog, ROTFLMAO. I don’t know what the equivalent is in Spanish.

  47. Billy D October 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am

    “Two players, each just missing. That, as they say, is baseball.”

    Swisher may have just missed. Hughes missed by a foot plus. But, as you suggest, it’s a game of inches.

  48. Greg October 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    If Girardi starts Swisher, then he isn’t doing all he can to win the game, case closed.

    And why is anyone confident with Pettitte on the mound? Didn’t he just choke away a 3-0 lead a few games ago? But they better win tonight. A game 7 would be a disaster, in the 2004 vein.

  49. Billy D October 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    “Just an observation. Any thoughts?”

    Just one. If they didn’t go thru the stupid exercise of starting Molina, it’s Cano, rather than the struggling Swisher, who is batting with the bases loaded in the 9th.

  50. Yankee Trader October 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    “If Pettitte pitches like he can, and the weather conditions cooperate, I see the Yankees winning this one 5-3…”

    How many innings do you see Pettitte going and in what order does our bullpen appear and how do they fare?

    My hope is that the Yankees bludgeon the Angels early and often, giving our bullpen guys who are struggling, a chance to shine tonight. I’m running out of TUMS!!!!!!

  51. Joe I. October 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Doreen,
    Swish had issues in the game 3 loss too. He came up twice with a man on third and one out, and he didn’t drive in the run either time.

  52. 86w183 October 24th, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Giuseppe — How you feeling my man?

  53. Greg October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    “Swisher may have just missed.”

    Swisher didn’t just miss. He took embarrassing swings that whole last AB. If he had that ball sitting on a tee, he still wouldn’t have hit it hard. What the heck does it take to get a non-producer out of the lineup? Is there any accountability left with Girardi in charge? Use Gardner and maybe his speed will lead to increased pressure and a defensive misplay. Start Swisher again and it’s just easy out after easy out after easy out.

  54. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Swisher has to play against the the lefty Saunders. But I do hope that when we advance to the WS Hinske is put back on the roster. I love Cervelli, but keeping 3 catchers has proven to be a mistake. We need another bat on the bench. Either Cervelli or Guzman needs to be replaced with Hinske.

  55. Billy D October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am

    “And why is anyone confident with Pettitte on the mound?”

    Experienced enough to handle the pressure? Past postseason success? Pettitte’s won in the postseason in pretty big spots. Granted, he’s lost in big spots too, but he’s won more. Wouldn’t guarantee a win, but I am confident.

  56. Yankee Trader October 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    “Just one. If they didn’t go thru the stupid exercise of starting Molina, it’s Cano, rather than the struggling Swisher, who is batting with the bases loaded in the 9th.”
    ————————————————–
    Also Posada would have been up with men on base>

    If and when the Yankees advance, Posada will be catching AJ, and IMHO that scenario won’t present itself again where Posada ends up batting 9th as a pinch hitter for Molina.

  57. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am

    murphydog,

    May peace reign in your house tonight and for the next 2 weeks:)

  58. Greg October 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    “Swisher has to play against the the lefty Saunders.”

    No, a guy who can’t hit against righties or lefties doesn’t HAVE to play against anyone. You sit his clownish rear end on the bench and let him rot. Give someone else a chance who just might put in a decent effort and take the game seriously.

  59. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    If there was another viable option besides Gardner and Hairston, maybe Swisher would sit…but there isn’t. That is why Swisher will play tonight.

  60. Greg October 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am

    “If there was another viable option besides Gardner and Hairston, maybe Swisher would sit…but there isn’t. That is why Swisher will play tonight.”

    Then you are pretty much just conceding the game. Either Gardner or Hairiston has a better chance of getting a hit than Clown Nicky.

  61. Wave Your Hat October 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am

    If Girardi has decided to let Posada catch AJ, maybe they don’t put Cervelli on the roster and take both Guzman and Hinske.

    On the other hand, the Yanks may have decided Guzman isn’t as useful as they thought so they will take Cervelli and Hinske and leave Guzman out.

    On the other other hand, the Phillies have lefties and more lefties on their pitching staff, so the Yanks may decide neither Hinske nor Gardner will be all that useful.

  62. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 10:45 am

    Joe I -

    Thanks for that reminder. There was so much discussion on why they lost that game, and there were SO many reasons, Swish got lost in the sauce, as they say, in that one. Couldn’t hide him in the Thursday loss, though.

    Hank -

    It’s not nonsense that sitting Swisher today doesn’t fix Thursday. I have no faith in Brett Gardner to get a hit, or to beat out an infield hit, or to steal a base if he does get on. First, he hasn’t played very much at all. Second, he’s not good at bunting. Third, he’s not instinctive enough on the basepath. Third, I don’t like the way he plays some balls hit to the outfield, the ones where he should play them on a hop and hold the runner to single but instead tries to make a heroic diving catch and the hitter ends up on 2nd or 3rd.

    But, whether they sit Swish and play Gardner or continue what they’ve been doing, I’m still rooting for either one to do a good job and for the Yankees to win.

  63. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:46 am

    “It’s a long series,” Jeter said. “Last I checked, I thought we were in pretty good shape.” – Derek Jeter

    This is why he’s the Captain. No panic, just goes about his business. And his business is winning.

  64. Billy D October 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am

    “So far, they’ve won 3 despite Swish’s offensive woes and only lost 1 that can be directly attributed to him not getting the big hit or walk”

    Swisher killed ‘em in Game 3 as well.

    As you mentioned this, it occured to me the Angels must be thinking “We won 2 games with ZERO contribution from two .400 OBP guys in Figgins and Abreu. If one or both can get something done, then who knows?”

  65. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am

    On Thursday night, I was sure Cano was going to get a hit in that spot; instead he got hit and the bat was taken out of his hands. :)

    But, we did find out in that game that even if Posada eventually replaces Molina in the lineup, it’s not the same lineup as when Posada starts the game. :?

  66. Hank October 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    “I have no faith in Brett Gardner to get a hit, or to beat out an infield hit, or to steal a base if he does get on. First, he hasn’t played very much at all. Second, he’s not good at bunting. Third, he’s not instinctive enough on the basepath. Third, I don’t like the way he plays some balls hit to the outfield, the ones where he should play them on a hop and hold the runner to single but instead tries to make a heroic diving catch and the hitter ends up on 2nd or 3rd.”

    Even if I grant you all that, he still has a better chance of contributing than Swisher. I agree with the poster that said by playing Swisher, you are giving up on the game. You just cannot keep putting a guy out there who is failing in every spot. This is lunacy.

  67. Erica - always OPPC October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    new thread :arrow:

  68. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    I just feel better about a slumping “Clown Nicky” than I do about Gardner/Hairston.

    Plus, no way am I throwing another lefty in there against Saunders.

    This team could have worse problems than a slumping Swisher. If he’s the worst of our problems, than I’ll sign up for it everytime.

    Right now, the worst problem is getting the ball to Mariano with a lead…not the right fielder who happened to hit 29 homeruns this season.

  69. Giuseppe Franco October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    86w183,

    Thank you for asking. I’m doing okay. I’m in rehab right now, so the medical part of this disease seems to have bottomed out.

    Half my face was paralyzed a week ago and now I’m able to move my lips and other features much easier. Baby steps.

    I still cannot stand up, though, and that freaking sucks. It appears I’m going to be here for a few more weeks.

    It’s going to be a long process but I’ll overcome it. Just a freakish disease that resulted from the common cold. Go figure.

    https://www.google.com/health/ref/Guillain-Barre+syndrome

    Thanks again for asking. It is appreciated.

  70. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Hank,

    I think, bottom line, anyone Girardi decides to use has “a chance” to contribute. You can look at it that Swish is “due,” or you can look at it like he needs to sit and Gardner should play – many times it’s the least likely player who ends up doing what’s needed.

    I guess they would have nothing to lose if Gardner starts; I just don’t think they gain that much. That’s all.

    If Pettitte pitches well enough and the other 8 players in the lineup do their jobs, it won’t really matter who sits and who plays. :)

  71. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Doreen,

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