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Why Philly loves the Angels and the rain

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 24, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Let’s assume that the Yankees are going to win the ALCS and play the Phillies in the World Series. Does it matter if they do it tonight or tomorrow night?

You bet it does. A lot. If the Yankees win the series tonight with Andy Pettitte on the mound, their pitching plans for the World Series remain intact. They can still start CC Sabathia in Game 1 and, if they want, send him back out three times in the seven-game series. The way Sabathia pitched on short rest in the ALCS, I don’t think anyone could argue with him doing that.

But if the Yankees go to a Game 7 tomorrow and Sabathia has to start then, that rules him out of a World Series start until Game 2, meaning he can only go twice and the Yankees will almost surely have to use four pitchers. If there is rain tonight and Game 7 isn’t until Monday, Sabathia would be out until Game 3 of the World Series. This is part of the reason Joe Girardi has already said Pettitte will pitch Game 6 whenever there is one, even if it’s rained out tonight and played tomorrow.

Meanwhile, in other potential-World-Series-pitching news, Charlie Manuel has said he’s going to start Pedro Martinez in one of the World Series games. I’d bet it’s one of the games in the NL park, but can you imagine if it was at Yankee Stadium? Would the “Who’s Your Daddy?” chants echo differently in the new place?

 
 

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105 Responses to “Why Philly loves the Angels and the rain”

  1. Erica - always OPPC October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    9 hours and 9 minutes until Game 6!!!!!!!!!

  2. Giuseppe Franco October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    86w183,

    Thank you for asking. I’m doing okay. I’m in rehab right now, so the medical part of this disease seems to have bottomed out.

    Half my face was paralyzed a week ago and now I’m able to move my lips and other features much easier. Baby steps.

    I still cannot stand up, though, and that freaking sucks. It appears I’m going to be here for a few more weeks.

    It’s going to be a long process but I’ll overcome it. Just a freakish disease that resulted from the common cold. Go figure.

    https://www.google.com/health/ref/Guillain-Barre+syndrome

    Thanks again for asking. It is appreciated.

  3. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am

    repost:
    I just feel better about a slumping “Clown Nicky” than I do about Gardner/Hairston.

    Plus, no way am I throwing another lefty in there against Saunders.

    This team could have worse problems than a slumping Swisher. If he’s the worst of our problems, than I’ll sign up for it everytime.

    Right now, the worst problem is getting the ball to Mariano with a lead…not the right fielder who happened to hit 29 homeruns this season.

  4. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    “Right now, the worst problem is getting the ball to Mariano with a lead.”

    That, my friends, sums it up in a nutshell.

  5. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Drive…the worst problem we have is getting this game in…I can’t take another day of waiting.

  6. dave October 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    how would cc be able to pitch 3 games in WS? if you went with a 3 man rotation without the extra day off b/t games 4 and 5 like you had in the LCS, every start would have to pitch on 3 days rest. I think it will be a play it by ear situation. if we’re down 2-1 maybe CC starts game 4, but even then i think you need to pitch gaudin otherwise it’s AJ and Petitte on 3 days rest. Hopefully this is something we have to worry about, and hopefully we’ll be up 3-0 and can pitch gaudin. ha.

  7. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    I second what Vader said.

    I’m in my office in midtown this morning.

    I can actually see a bit of sun peeking through the clouds.

  8. Billy D October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    “86w183
    October 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
    Carrying Cervelli has been somewhat useful in this series as opposed to carrying Guzman which defies any sensible explanation. He is totally devoid of skill.”

    Is that you Mrs. Cervelli?

    How on earth has Cervelli been even remotely useful in this series?

  9. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Vader
    October 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
    “Drive…the worst problem we have is getting this game in…I can’t take another day of waiting.”

    For all of us fans, you aint kidding! My wife is ready to lock me up in a rubber room :)

  10. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Andy’s going for Sweet 16 tonight :)

  11. Aura October 24th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Billy D wrote:

    How on earth has Cervelli been even remotely useful in this series?

    ———-

    It has allowed the Yankees to pinch hit for Molina with Posada early in the game.

  12. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    “It has allowed the Yankees to pinch hit for Molina with Posada early in the game.”

    I’ve got a better idea. How ’bout having Molina play the role he’s paid for, backup catcher? AJ has to suck it up. At this point his penchant for Molina is selfish and hurting the team. Maybe instead of painting his nails, Jorge can wear his 4 rings when he catches and flashes the signs. Maybe then AJ will get the message.

  13. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    For all of us fans, you aint kidding! My wife is ready to lock me up in a rubber room
    ============
    Drive, so I guess asking you to explain Mike Mathis this ALCS isn’t the best thing for your mental state at the moment?

  14. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    “Drive, so I guess asking you to explain Mike Mathis this ALCS isn’t the best thing for your mental state at the moment?”

    Let me wipe the drool off my chin and stammer Noooooooo! LOL

  15. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Giuseppe Franco –

    I didn’t know you were ill. My sincerest wishes for a good and full recovery.

  16. Azaz October 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    the sun is out here in queens

  17. ditmars1929 October 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    GF, I didn’t know you were sick. I hope you’re ok with whatever your ailment is.

    I’ve been very sick before (even got the death diagnosis once). A sense of humor and a Yankee victory is all you need!!! You’ll be fine!

  18. Tarheelyank October 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am

    GF

    Welcome back! You have been missed. I didn’t realize you were having medical problems. I hope for a speedy recovery.

    It took all my energy to not think about baseball yesterday. I am so ready for Andy to purge the bad taste Thursday’s game left with me.

  19. Rose October 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    “Maybe instead of painting his nails, Jorge can wear his 4 rings when he catches and flashes the signs. Maybe then AJ will get the message.”

    Molina is a back-up catcher and that’s what his role should be.
    AJ implodes no matter who catches him.

  20. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. October 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Guzman is not devoid of skill. What’s he’s devoid of, is being used in such a way as to maximize use of the skills he was acquired for.
    I like Francisco Cervelli a lot, but I can’t say that having him on the team has been useful. Necessary, yes – in light of the decision to carry three catchers, but there have been times in past games where it would have been rather useful to have Hinske as an option off the bench, I think.

  21. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Let me wipe the drool off my chin and stammer Noooooooo! LOL
    ===========
    Dont worry, I’m sitting in the first row in LF tonight. I will make sure to position Johnny Damon and Melky according to my Mike Mathis spray chart (which is left-center field gap…and uhhh left-center field gap).

  22. Bronx Jeers October 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Hang in there Giuseppe Franco and you’ll be feeling better just in time to celebrate with all of us.

    Well… you know… as much as you can celebrate with people over the internet.

  23. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am

    GF…get well and hopefully there is something to keep you busy over the next few weeks besides PT.

  24. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    If anybody is still looking good deals for Game 6 tix I just checked StubHub. You can steal some seats in Legends boxes right ehind home plate for just $899 – $3800!

  25. Larry Mahnken October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    This assumes no rainouts in the World Series.

  26. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    I received this in an email this morning and thought it was significant for tonight’s game:

    Blessed are the flexible,
    >> For they will not get bent
    >> out of shape!

    :)

    ******************************

    I’m not sure anybody will want to read this poem. On the day of Game 6, I’m not sure I would be wanting to read a poem someone posted! But maybe it will help some to calm down or reach equilibrium. I tried to post it last night but something got caught in the censor. It’s always been one of my favorites and watching so many fans be so distraught about moves they don’t like, players they don’t want around, etc., it made me think of the ideal way to live life, root for your team – and watch an important baseball game. At least it’s something to aspire to.

    I wish this for all of us tonight:

    IF, by Rudyard Kipling

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream – and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build ‘em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on”;

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings – nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run –
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
    And – which is more – you’ll be a Man my son!

  27. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Zach – you could also throw that scouting report in Andy Pettitte’s direction. I hope someone in the Yankee coaching staff or FO has taken notice of the fact that the guy is hitting the Yankee pitching with impunity and has decided that it might be worth looking at ways to pitch to him that would help neutralize him.

  28. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Zach,

    Enjoy the game! We were there last Saturday night. May you have even more fun than the wife & I did:)

  29. YankeeJosh October 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    I like carrying Cervelli, because even if Posada starts every game, he gives you the option of pinch running for Posada late in a game if tied or down a run, and still pinch hit for Molina in extra innings in a biog situation. It adds flexibility to the roster.

    I don’t like carrying Guzman because his skill-set is limited to one thing, being able to run fast. He’s redundnt becuse Gardner is on the bench and ready to pinch run. And Hairston is also a decent runner who can also stay in a game and isn’t an automatic out at the plate.

    So, I’d much rather get rid of Guzman and add Hinske to the roster should the team get to the World Series. I wouldn’t have flip flopped them in this series.

  30. caNO he didnt October 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    i would take ramiro pena over guzman anyday. Has some speed, an hit well as a lefty or even bunt single as weve seen, and obviously can handle defense.

  31. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    By the way, I just want to say that the Kipling poem was one of the things my dad had hanging on our refrigerator. I guess he wanted us to aspire to those things.

    ILYD

  32. TMZ October 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Tonight is a must win game for the Yankees. We need CC ready for Game 1.

  33. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Zach – you could also throw that scouting report in Andy Pettitte’s direction. I hope someone in the Yankee coaching staff or FO has taken notice of the fact that the guy is hitting the Yankee pitching with impunity and has decided that it might be worth looking at ways to pitch to him that would help neutralize him.
    =====================
    Yeah, Mathis is obviously going up there with a “swing early” mentality. He’s hit all sorts of fastballs and a Joba breaking ball.

    I think they have to bust him in on his hands.

    I also cannot believe that I’ve devoted this much mental energy towards a catcher who hit .211 during the season.

  34. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Nice poem, Trish.

    By the way, the weather forecasts are changing, not quite as ominous for tonight. They may get the game in, after all.

    Get the DVRs ready.

  35. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    The Yankees had a roster that was good enough to win 103 games and take the toughest Division in baseball going away. To radically alter the roster has proven to be a mistake to this point. Losing the ability to pinch hit a power lefty bat, especially in Yankee Stadium, hurts more than a 3rd catcher helps. Molina is one of the best backup catchers in the game. He was part of a terrific bench this season. The Yankees postseason bench is much weaker than the regular season bench.I dont see how that makes sense.

  36. MikeBoston October 24th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    86w183 October 24th, 2009 at 11:02 am

    yankee21

    “I agree completely. No game is won or lost when the lineup is made out”

    I have to disagree there. In 2006 as soon as Joe T. came out and said that Arod was hitting 8th, it was something like 10 hours before the game, I knew right then and there that the game/series was over.

    That being said, in no way am I comparing that with Swish and should he sit or not. I look at this way, he’s as streaky a player as there has been in the Bronx in some time. When he gets on a tear he really hits them in bunches. Against the lefty tonight there really isn’t a better option right now so I say go with him. No one feels worse for his last AB than he does I’m sure, he is due!

  37. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. October 24th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    I also cannot believe that I’ve devoted this much mental energy towards a catcher who hit .211 during the season.
    *************************************************

    LOL – I know! I thought the one paragraph I contributed was extremely generous, the .211 status considered.

    Move along.. nothing to see now.

  38. jennifer October 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Did anyone read Ian O’Conners article today? I only read the headline.

    http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....nnor_.html

    Like I’ve said before I feel awful for the family. But to say the Angels should win for Nick’s family is a little ridiculous. It isn’t like this guy was a vet on the team. It isn’t like when Thurman was taken too early.

  39. MFLEEP October 24th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Doesn’t it make more sense to pitch CC tomorrow if tonight’s game gets rained out? That way he can pitch game 2 of the WS (if they make it). Also, he is obviously comfortable throwing Petite out there in a game 7, seeing as it is virtually Andy’s hallmark.

  40. BigSix October 24th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Weather has changed.

    This game will get played – maybe a tstorm delay, but it will get played.

  41. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Thank you Joe. For both.

    :)

    Do you think it will be an on-time start?

  42. Upstate Nick October 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    If the Yankees have to use Sabathia tomorrow (assuming tonight’s game even gets played), it doesn’t mean they’ll have to use a 4-man rotation when/if they make the World Series. The WS is for all the marbles. There’s no room to mess around with starting a guy like Gaudin at Citizens Bank Park. I have to imagine that Girardi would much rather trot out just Burnett, Pettitte, and Sabathia with games 4-7 all on short rest.

  43. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Just saw the possible t-storm delay.

    Of course that makes it more difficult to have the DVR running at the right time(s)!

    I fear I know the answer to this but I am going to ask it anyway. Is it possible to archive just a portion of a program? If I have the DVR running for say 6 hours, just to cover all eventualitites, is there a way to save just the game portion and get rid of the rest?

    An other question: is it possible to tape to the VCR and have the DVR recording also? I would think this is a yes.

  44. ejd October 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Giuseppe- best of luck for a speedy recovery and years of good health..god bless

  45. Azaz October 24th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    9 pm

    63° F
    Precip:
    90%

    10 pm

    61° F
    Precip:
    90%

    11 pm

    60° F
    Precip:
    90%
    Sun
    Oct 25
    12 am

    59° F
    Precip:
    80%

    1 am

    57° F
    Precip:
    70%

    2 am

    56° F
    Precip:
    60%

    3 am

    55° F
    Precip:
    40%

    4 am

    54° F
    Precip:
    20%

    NO way they play tonite

  46. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    trisha,

    I’ve had 3 different types of tivo/dvr. I dont know of any way to save just a portion of a recorded program.

  47. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Azaz, the weather situation was more dire last weekend, yet they still managed to get both games in.

    At worst, there will be a delay tonight…but they are playing.

  48. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Thanks Drive. It’s what I feared.

  49. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. October 24th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Azaz – nominated as a conference delegate at the Weekly Lohud Blog/Holiday Inn Express Meteorologists Conference.

  50. MarisFan October 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    First time poster: If we get past the Angels, will Yankee fans try to get ‘Who’s your daddy?’ chant going when Pedro lines up on third base with the rest of the Phillies?

  51. Giuseppe Franco October 24th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Thanks to all for the well wishes. I have been in the hospital for the last three weeks, but I haven’t missed a single Yankee playoff game.

    No little disease is going to keep me away from my passion.

    My sister let me borrow her laptop so I’ve been keeping up on the Lohud action most everyday. IMO, Chad, Sam, and Josh have really stepped up and done a fantastic job with the blog. It is more enjoyble than ever.

    Enjoy the celebration tonight because tonight’s the night the Yanks bring home the AL pennant.

  52. MG October 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    Azaz must be reading the forecast wrong, there is a 10% chance of precipitation in the Bronx from 5PM on:

    Isolated Thunderstorms 66° 66° 19 mph S 90% 10% 0
    6 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 66° 66° 19 mph S 90% 10% 0
    7 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 65° 65° 19 mph S 90% 10% 0
    8 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 65° 65° 18 mph S 90% 10% 0
    9 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 64° 64° 18 mph SSW 88% 10% 0
    10 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 64° 64° 17 mph SW 86% 10% 0
    11 PM Isolated Thunderstorms 63° 63° 16 mph WSW 84% 10% 0

    90% is the humidity, they’ll play tonight…

  53. Matty October 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Legends Sec. 27B, Row 6. I need to sell my ticket for face value ($600) as I can no longer make it tonight. Best offer by 3pm gets the seat. Thank you for letting me post this, and GO YANKS!

  54. RS October 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Anyone else find it extremely ironic that the weather has been great whenever the Yankees aren’t playing in NY, and extremely ugly when they’re scheduled to play?

    It was mostly sunny and pleasant during that long layoff between the ALDS and ALCS. It was also sunny and in the mid-60s this past week while the Yankees were in Anaheim. The two weekends they were scheduled to play at home however, have been cold and rainy.

  55. pat October 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    I like MGs forecast better but weather.com is saying 90% chance of showers too.

  56. Baseball Guy October 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Based on the commentary I’ve read on-line and heard on the radio yesterday, it seems I’m the minority on this, BUT…

    if the Yankees are rained out tonight, using Pettitte over Sabathia, to me, makes NO sense.

    1. Sabathia’s turn is Sunday. Pitch him on his regular rest, that gets him to the World Series for Game 2 rather than Game 3.

    2. There is the argument that Pettitte is a Big Game Pitcher. “He wins the Big Games,” they say. Well, he’s also lost big games. He has LOST 9 post season games. The argument that “Pettitte always comes up big” is wrong. He often comes up big, but not always.

    3. There’s the argument that it wouldn’t be fair to Pettitte to pass him over. “How would Girardi explain that?” Michael Kay asked yesterday. How? The same way he said to Posada that he wouldn’t start when Burnett pitched…

    4. In the post season – you go for the kill. You use your best when they are ready. On Sunday Sabathia will be ready. It’s his turn. Use him. Use the best. Why tempt fate?

    5. Every “emotional” argument for using Pettitte Sunday can be used to state why he should start Game 7 “Big Game pitcher,” “He’s been there before,” etc…

    Just my take.

    I have tickets for tonight – and if they call it – I hope they cakll it early so I don’t have to go in twice and pay parking twice and a bridge twice for a meaningless trip tonight…

  57. Angel - A tale told by idiots - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. October 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Except the weather channel changes their forecast hourly.

    I can’t count how many times its been reported a certain weather condition as happening right now on the Local on the 8s and its been nothing like the actual weather outside the window, lol.

  58. Boston Dave October 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    Baseball Guy,

    the idea is that if CC pitches at all, he can only pitch 2 games in the WS.

    So let Andy give it a whirl and hope he wins.

  59. randy l. October 24th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    one thing the yankees need to do is to figure out an angel game plan quicker.

    in the burnett game, they seemed like they decided to swing often and early in the count in the first inning.

    burnett seemed to have had a game plan of throwing strikes and getting ahead in the count.

    some coach besides the catcher and pitcher must be watching to see if there is a specific plan of attack being used as a strategy.

    then a counter move must be made. it’s a chess game.

    burnett never knew what hit him i that first inning.

    one of my key strategies i personally use in any competition is to use time to my advantage.

    in the case of burnett’s first inning , someone ,him or molina, or a coach should have slowed down things and used time to regroup because the inning was not playing out to script.

    it shouldn’t have taken too long for yankee coaches to realize that the angels had changed their plan of attack.

    but it does take time to come to this kind of realization. so you slow it down. you get your composure. you definitely don’t just keep going when the runs are ticking off on the scoreboard.

    players on both sides can control time in a game. a hitter can step out or not step out. a pitcher can throw at his own pace. a catcher can call time and go to the mound. same with any infielder.

    laces on shoes can become untied. charley horses can appear. the point is you don’t just let a steam roller go over you .

    i’ve taught myself that when a surprise hits me that i need to slow down things and stop them if possible until whatever it is isn’t a surprise. i don’t care if it’s a disgruntled customer, a street fight, a car accident, a business trying to pull a fast one lousy service, or just simply bad luck.

    there is almost always a way to slow things down. it gives you time to rethink the situation and to keep your cool.

    it also allows you to realize if someone else is pushing your buttons and manipulating you. it’s happens in sports and every walk of life. keeping your cool by using time to your advantage is one of the most important skills to have in the heat of competition.

    one of the things the angels do is try to speed up the game for the other team and make the other team react to their surprise strategy of the moment.

    the solution i to just slow it down and leave the strategy transparent.

    and then simply compete with a much better chance of success.

  60. RS October 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    There might be a high chance of showers, but it will really have to be pouring for them to call off the game. Hopefully there will just be a steady drizzle like last weekend and they can play through it.

    The good news is that the Angels have yet to win a game in these weather conditions, and the Yankees have been dealing with rain delays all year, and Pettitte obviously has experience pitching in cold October weather.

  61. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    This has been the Yankees season weather-wise all along. Has there been a single homestand that didn’t have some rain in the forecast at some point at the very least? :lol:

    My hope is that once they decide to play, they can play through, or if there is a delay, that it comes late-ish in the game (after 5 or 6 innings) so that Andy’s start isn’t weather-compromised. The game then comes down to the bullpen, but that’s really no different than every game except those pitched by CC so far. :) Also, that if there is a delay, that it’s a delay and not a suspended game into tomorrow.

    In which case, what would MLB’s policy be? If the game ends up suspended, will they complete the game in the morning/afternoon and still play the next game, if necessary, tomorrow night? How would television work? I mean, after all the accommodations so that the games are in prime time, wouldn’t it be a little strange if there’s a suspended game resumed sometime during the day and if the Yankees happen to win it and clinch the AL title, wouldn’t they want that in prime time? Any ideas? Opinions?

  62. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Who – at least on this earth – really knows if they start on time, let alone get the game in. No way to tell. I agree that it would be great if the weather would declare itself in time so fans can make their plans.

    I think the only way to save partial game on DVR would be to save whatever portion of the game spills over into the next time slot. So one could get the latter portion of the game saved.

  63. trisha - OPPC lifetime member who isn't worrying October 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    MarisFan – you have to remember that Pedro is going to be extremely motivated also, Who’s Your Daddy notwithstanding, because he wanted to play for the Yankees and the Yankees didn’t bite.

    RS – well here’s one way to look at it. Let the New England type weather, to which Yankees are more accustomed, add to the Yankee edge!

    Here’s another one of my famous rationales! I decided that the ghosts wanted all of the important celebrations in the first season to happen at the Stadium. We knew we were going to win the division at some point so that wasn’t a biggie. But we celebrated the DLS at the Stadium. So will we celebrate the CLS – and then the WS at the Stadium!

    GO YANKEES!!!

  64. mick October 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Just my take.

    I have tickets for tonight – and if they call it – I hope they cakll it early so I don’t have to go in twice and pay parking twice and a bridge twice for a meaningless trip tonight…

    ————————————————————
    This is what I call “the Yankee Tax,” the surcharge for being a Yankee addict.

  65. Doreen October 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    randy l -

    Good point about the Angels speeding up that first inning. And I WAS surprised somewhat that after the first couple of hits Molina did not go out there. Especially since that was one of the reasons given for the compatibility between him and AJ. Perhaps it happened way too fast for even that much.

  66. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    If the game gets delayed in game, say an hour or longer…who does it favor?

  67. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    “But we celebrated the DLS at the Stadium”…they did?

  68. mick October 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    The way this series has been going-the bizarre fashion-I could see about 1/2 played today and the rest tomorrow.

    The question would be,assuming it’s a close game, who do you start tomorrow? Say it’s 2-1 in the 5th, do they go to the pen or CC? Probably Gaudin or god forbid Aceves.

  69. Lou in SoCal October 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Torii Hunter has been running his mouth this whole series. I never thought he was like that. Maybe he should play in the NBA with his attitude. I read in the NY Post Jeter said that the Yankee Fans will take care of him. We need to taunt him every atbat. Remember he said there is no pressure on him. I guess he forgot he what playing in the Bronx was about. Go to the game and taunt the hell out of him. Make him eat those words that he said; No Pressure and we are going to shock the world. TOOOORRRRIIII! TOOOOOORRRIII! TOOORRRRIII!

  70. MG October 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    pat
    October 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
    I like MGs forecast better but weather.com is saying 90% chance of showers too.
    —————————–
    mine came from MSN, imagine my surprise when I looked at weather.com and saw the exact opposite forecast :)

    we all know they will play the game tonight, Fox and MLB won’t swap a Sunday-Monday schedule for the current one and if two different weather sites can be so far apart it isn’t likely to rain hard enough to stop the game. Plus it’s 20 degrees warmer than last weekend.

  71. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    If the game gets delayed in game, say an hour or longer…who does it favor?
    ===========
    Insomniacs… and vampires.

  72. mick October 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Sorry about that. There is no way they go to CC if it’s to completed tomorrow. Must hold him for potential game 7. My bad.

  73. Benny Blanco October 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Please win today…pretty please with sugar on top.

  74. Vader October 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Zach…then I better get a nap in before game time.

  75. m October 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    I value all (well most) opinions here, but to say that Gardner’s not very good on the basepaths is just revisionist history. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Gardner was twice CS on pitchouts. Not even Jorge Posada would’ve been safe on those. ;)

  76. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Joe from Long Island
    October 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
    “Who – at least on this earth – really knows if they start on time, let alone get the game in.”

    I just looked down from the heavens, my friend. There will be a 52 minute delay to start the game. BTW, the Yankees celebration begins at 11:46:)

  77. steveleb October 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    Ex-NYer and converted LA native wife (and our cat, Bernie Williams)will be rooting very hard and loud from Cali tonight…does anyone happen to know who will be throwing out the first pitch?

  78. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Drive – so then, my dilemma becomes – when I get from from my event tonight, do I watch the game on the DVR from the start, or do I join right in and watch the end of the game and Yankees’ victory celebration live?

  79. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Steve, I’m hoping for Aaron Boone to throw out the first pitch tonight. Please send some of your SoCal weather this way…but dont send any thundersticks.

  80. randy l. October 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    “Perhaps it happened way too fast for even that much.”

    doreen-

    exactly. molina and burnett obviously had a game plan of getting ahead in the count.

    it played right into what the angels were doing by swing early and often.

    tonight they may decide to work the count instead.

    if the a yankees have pettitte throw pitches outside the zone or just on the black, pettitte would be in trouble in a new way from what burnett went through.

    it’s chess game and the right move doesn’t happen if someone loses their cool and lets the game speed up.

    burnett was a deer in headlights in that first inning.

    what stops others from intervening is that there is another school of thought that you don’t want to interrupt the flow of the game.

    sometimes we on tv can see a player losing his cool with things speeding up better than girardi can. he’s not watching a close up on tv the way we are.

    i think there should be a tv coach in the clubhouse watching and seeing things that need to be seen. then pass it on to the manager asap.

    i don’t care if it’s illegal. how do they stop it?

    the point is scoscia is a master of dictating the speed of the game and the terms it’s played on.

    girardi can’t let scoscia do this.

    it really in many ways a game of wits and control by the managers.

    scoscia took it to girardi in that first inning with burnett.

    it can’t happen tonight again if the yankees want to win.

  81. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Joe,

    Savor the moment and watch the entire game. Smile widely when Tex hits his 4th inning 3 run homer. When the score is 8-2 with 2 outs in the 9th, you’ll be happy you did. Sleep, for Yankee fans, is over-rated.

  82. m October 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Furthermore, Gardner’s 2-for-3 in the ALCS. Teeny-tiny sample size, but he’s shown he can at least hit contrary to popular belief.

    (not advocating for Garner to start, just the facts)

  83. m October 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    I can’t believe that in a game where 13 runs scored, not a single ball left the park.

    Hopefully, the Yankees will show us how glad they are to be home. ;)

  84. Drive 4-5 October 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    “scoscia took it to girardi in that first inning with burnett.”

    What can Girardi do when the Angels go up to bat and aggressively swing at the first strike they see? Tell his pitchers to throw balls? The first inning wasnt on Giradi. It was on AJ throwing straight pitches over the middle of the plate.

  85. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Drive – There’s a big grin on my face right now. That’s a great thought. Think that’s the way I’ll go. What the heck, tomorrow’s Sunday, and YES will probably re-run at least a portion of the postgame celebration before they get into the football stuff.

  86. m October 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    They weren’t all meatballs. Nothing was up, and only the pitch to Torii’s was in the middle of the plate. He hit his corners on the other hits. Maybe didn’t have movement or bite, but he wasn’t serving them up on a tee. Angels had a plan and were playing with their backs to the wall.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....de=gameday

  87. IRISHCARBOMB October 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    THIS THREAD IS A JINX!!!!!

    STOP THINKING ABOUT PHILLY

  88. Erica - always OPPC October 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    7 hours and 7 minutes until Game 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. Zach in Port Jeff October 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Biggest problem with AJ the other night was the lack of bite on his curveball. He becomes very very hittable without his curve.

  90. randy l. October 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    m-

    i think the yankees know that gardner gets in his own way. it seems to take him time to adjust to new situations. he gets thrown into a game to steal and he seems to have performance anxiety as he sits on first base pitch after pitch.

    this happened earlier in the year and it still happens. it’s difficult to get gardner playing time which would help relax him , but with things so tight how do you do that.

    i think the yankees just think gardener needs more time( as in another year) before he can be a prime time player. i don’t think they expected him to play so tight on the bases.

    at this point would you even put gardner in to steal second in the last inning of a game?

    i don’t know if i would.

  91. YankeeRay October 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    If game starts then it has to finish tonight. An in game delay that causes roll over into tomorrow hurts us more than Angels. We would have to bring in Gaudin tomorrow unless we had a reasonable lead then we could consider bringing in CC to finish it off. Lets say we have a 5-2 lead after 4 innings. Do we go to pen tomorrow or bring in CC to ice it? Do we go to Guadin?
    Interesting scenarios so hopefully we just play today win today das it.

  92. vey October 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    I hope the Molina/AJ experiment is finally ovah!

    Molina will be gone,and Cerevelli who fit in so smoothly when Posada and Molina were on the DL.Players and fans were sorry he had to go back down.A good part of the wins came from his game calling.

    As much as I like all the Molina’s,this being a contract year for Jose,he found a way,to make keeping him around,with AJ.Molina exploited a situation to his advantage.He got into the playoffs twice,the same amount of games Joe handed the Angels,too.

    As long as Posada is on the team,he has the most experience with playoff games of all the catchers,in his rightfully Earned position.It should be a no brainer,he’s the primary catcher.

    Go Yankees!!

  93. m October 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    randy l,

    Gardner’s greatest enemy is that the pitcher would rather lose the hitter than let Gardner steal.

    As soon as he puts on, he’s the focus. Nothing else, no one else.

    He’s still a good baserunner imo, but a pitchout can negate a good jump and good speed.

    And didn’t we decide that he was actually safe on on of his CS? Or that could’ve been someone else.

    Anyway, he’s a marked man, and sometimes that makes it tougher to steal.

  94. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    1996 Game 5 WS on YES right now – ANDY :)

  95. Chris N October 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    There is no way they’ll use only three starters unless they sweep. You really think they are going to send all their starters out there on three day rest for the last four games? That’s ridiculous. I will not happen.

    However, I think it is important to get Sabathia in game one or two so that they can have him pitch two of the first six. The earlier you can pitch, the better chance you have to get a lead and the more likely his second start will have a major impact on the series (or actually take place).

  96. Joe from Long Island October 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    new post

  97. Erica - always OPPC October 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  98. neo October 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    THIS THREAD IS A JINX!!!!!

    STOP THINKING ABOUT PHILLY

    im with you

  99. vey October 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Yankees have a winning record at home,and let’s hope the team has a fire in the belly to get this done.I hope Tex,Matsui’s bats come alive.If they can’t hit HR,then manufacture runs,bunts steals sacfly’s et al, a run is a run.

  100. kimoinsd October 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    ANYONE THINKING OR TALKING ABOUT PHILLY IS A JINXY MOFO!

  101. kimoinsd October 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!

  102. p. dizzle October 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Accuweather is saying we should expect a “wall of water…

    http://www.accuweather.com/reg.....eastusnews

    That doesn’t sound so good.

  103. randy l. October 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    “What can Girardi do when the Angels go up to bat and aggressively swing at the first strike they see? Tell his pitchers to throw balls? The first inning wasnt on Giradi. It was on AJ throwing straight pitches over the middle of the plate.”

    drive 4-5 -

    in the first inning, abreau, hunter and guerrero were thrown 4 pitches.

    three runs were in.

    figgins took pitches.izturis took pitches. the big boppers attacked.

    little guys take pitches , big guys swing.

    not hard to notice.

    abreau and hunter have walked 15 times together so far in the postseason.

    they weren’t trying to walk in that first inning were they?

    abreau swinging at the second pitch he saw showed he wasn’t looking for a walk.

    if girardi missed that, hunter swinging at the first pitch had to tell him this was an intentional strategy.

    if abreau and hunter swinging so early in the count ahd to tell girardi that guerrero surley would be swinging at the first pitch.

    yet he received a pitch to hit to make it 3-0 game.

    so yeah i’d say girardi was getting schooled by scoscia.

  104. Rose October 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    “As much as I like all the Molina’s,this being a contract year for Jose,he found a way,to make keeping him around,with AJ.Molina exploited a situation to his advantage.”

    What are you talking about? Girardi and maybe AJ wanted Molina to catch. Molina didn’t exploit anything. Molina probably won’t be on the team next year, they have Cervelli to catch.
    Molina is an excellent back-up catcher. I’m sure a team will sign him next year.

  105. DaveF October 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Current radar map of Yankee Stadium from Weather.com

    http://www.weather.com/outlook.....e/36410:20

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