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Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 25, 2009 
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The Yankees and Angels couldn’t avoid the raindrops yesterday and MLB postponed Game 6 until today. Chad Jennings has the story on the rainout and what it means for both teams.
My column focused on Joe Girardi’s decision to keep Andy Pettitte as his Game 6 starter instead of giving the ball to a fully-rested CC Sabathia. Cliff’s Notes version: I’m in favor of it. In truth, I think it’s a no-brainer. Check out the column for more explanation.
Rick Carpiniello thinks this series had the potential to be a classic but hasn’t played out that way.
And finally, Josh Thomson writes about how Mariano Rivera is planning to give struggling Phil Hughes a pep talk. His notebook also has the rest of the news from a soggy, soggy day at the Stadium.
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I’ll repost the Flash Points pitching analysis later today and we’ll have the game post up around 4 p.m. Remember that first pitch is about 20 minutes later – 8:20 p.m. – than it was scheduled for yesterday, and be sure to check back throughout the day for more.
I’ve been all for starting CC tonight. The logic – put it away – NOW.
That being said, I saw Sam’s reasoning – which makes sense.
I also saw the graph linked in the last post with the Angels’ batters vs. Pettitte – so it would seem that the Yankees should win tonight.
I’d still go CC. My philosophy is win today – use your best if your best is available. It’s not an anti-Pettitte argument, it’s a PRO-CC argument.
Anyway, I don’t mind being wrong – and for this, I HOPE I’m wrong…
Sam shouldn’t the flash report be the same? While MO is at it talk to the whole pen,it couldn’t hurt.
The rainout IMO will possibly hurt the Yankees more, if this series goes to the seventh game. The Yankees have been relying on a 3 man rotation which will have to be expanded to use 4 starters in the WS, based on the scheduled off days, with your best starter going in game 3 at Philly on regular rest.
Worse yet would be an extra inning game on Monday, that could potentially use up other starters.
Angels have six starters they can throw at the Phillies in Lackey, Saunders, Weaver, Kazmir, Santana, and Palmer.
Nevertheless, that being said, we win tonight, and our rotation is set for Philly.
Go Yankees!!
Game management has been the problem for the Yankees.
This postseason has shown up Joe’s lack of managerial experience.He personally gave the Angels 2 of the games from poor decisions. The last game was a good example.After leading for half an inning all game,he loses by 1,with his pitcher choice.
Yankees bats need yo come alive. They need to be aggressive and support Andy early and often when at bat,likE they do CC.
Why is today’s game moved back about 20 mins? I would think they would try to work something out with the NFL because the Giants are on Sunday night football. What you guys think?
why hasn’t Gaudin been used(not counting the 3 outs he got in relief)this series.Yankees need to step up and get this over today.
Joel Sherman:
Why not earlier than 8:20 tom? MLB wants set time, fear FOX has 3 4:15 NFL starts and OT in any could mess with TV sked
14 hours ago from TweetDeck
They need to schedule an afternoon game. An afternoon game will avoid the Giants game plus it’ll give more options if it the weather is bad.
With first pitch scheduled for 8.20pm you cannot delay the game which is inflexible
I just want the yanks to play a clean game and burst out offensively today.. a quick lead and some tack on runs will certainly help… I don’t know if I can withstand a game 7..
Pitching Sabathia tonight would be crazy. Why use him unless it’s not absolutely necessary?
Win tonight with a capable Pettitte and the rotation is set up perfectly for the World Series.
It’s an absolute no-brainer to send Pettitte out there. He’ll pitch well enough to bring it home.
Correction:
Pitching Sabathia tonight would be crazy. Why use him unless it’s absolutely necessary?
For what its worth, attached is a short video of Jeff Nelson’s take on the rainout from mlb.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
It would be crazy. If they win tonight, CC goes against Phillies in Game 1. Pitch him, and you lose him until Game 2.
Also, if you lose with him tonight, you lose with that ace in the hole. I would imagine the players must have an additional sense of confidence knowing they have him waiting for tomorrow, if the worst happens today.
Andy Pettitte’s era vs. the Angels in 2009 : 7.88 with a 1.8 WHIP
Angels are batting .323 vs Pettitte in 2009
I hope the Yankees are bringing their bats tonight because THAT’S the kind of experience Andy is bringing to this game. Girardi is being too loyal to a pitcher who stopped being a big game pitcher 10 years ago.
I find it faulty that all the reasoning behind not pitching CC today revolves around counting chickens. Doesn’t anyone remember the original Mariano who said “We play today, we win today”. Pretty sad that the Yankees have a manager that refuses to put the players on the field who give them the best chance. If Mariano was on the team today he’d be saying “We play today, and if we don’t win we have CC tomorrow, so don’t worry”.
“Girardi is being too loyal to a pitcher who stopped being a big game pitcher 10 years ago.”
So the last time he was a big game pitcher in 1999?
He’s been a big contributor to 4 teams that went to WS since that time.
And he was pretty good against LAA the other day.
A couple examples pointed out on RAB.
2000 World Series Game Five: 7 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 5 K
2003 World Series Game Six: 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 7 K
2009 ALDS Game Three: 6.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
your point is that andy is due for a bad outing?
Torre lost on the road because he didn’t win the first two at home.The first two are crucial,because the opponent has 3 straight games at home.
More importantly I hope Joe has seen how his over managing has put the Yankees in this dire condition.
ANDY was the MVP in 2001 for ALCS,He’s capable of stepping up to the challenge.
Stephen October 25th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Joel Sherman:
Why not earlier than 8:20 tom? MLB wants set time, fear FOX has 3 4:15 NFL starts and OT in any could mess with TV sked
14 hours ago from TweetDeck
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that make sense. Last week’s Jets/Bills game went into overtime and didn’t end until 8:10PM.
According to weather.com, there will be a 90% chance of rain on April 13, 2010, the day of stadium opener.
Andy Pettitte’s era vs. the Angels in 2009 : 7.88 with a 1.8 WHIP
Angels are batting .323 vs Pettitte in 2009
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Sabathia was also 0-2 with a high ERA against the Angels this season.
When are people going to realize that the results of the 2009 regular season have no relevance in the playoffs?
Buckner, I notice you neglected to mention that Pettitte took the loss in that game 6 start in 2003 when he couldn’t match Beckett’s 0′s in game 6. There are no moral victories in the post season. You don’t get E for effort. Teams win because their pitchers have shut down stuff. Pettitte is a very good pitcher but he hasn’t had shut down stuff in many many years. The Yankees have a pitcher who is at the top of his game with shut down stuff, one of only two pitchers in the post season this year, and it’s a crime to make him be a witness when he’s well rested.
I have every confidence that Andy Pettitte will finish off the Angels tonight. Just saw a stat on ESPN that he is 8-2 w/ a 3.6something ERA with rest of 5 or more days.
The Yanks are in a dire condition? I don’t get that at all.
Who has the uphill climb here?
It’s the Angels who are on the brink of elimination, not the Yanks. The Yank lead the series 3-2.
The Yanks are also at home where they are 5-0 in October.
It’s amazing how people still don’t have any faith in this team.
I hate fox sports coverage.NBC was much better.Buck,McCarver and Rosenthal feel the need to yap too much.Buck some how need to reward his research dept by spewing every fact they drudge up on the air.Don’t forget when your team’s at bat you have an interview,or some other footage to watch.You get replay or told what happened.
I hate fox sports coverage.NBC was much better.Buck,McCarver and Rosenthal feel the need to yap too much.Buck some how need to reward his research dept by spewing every fact they drudge up on the air.Don’t forget when your team’s at bat you have an interview,or some other footage to watch.You get replay or told what happened.
Ask yourself this question. If it’s game 6 of the World Series, not the ALCS, so if you win the season is over, do you still pitch Andy or do you go with CC?
Pettitte actually outpitched both Sabathia and Burnett in the ALDS.
He was outstanding that day.
You dont have to throw shutouts every time you take the mound to be a very effective postseason pitcher.
Pettitte may have outpitched Sabathia in the ALDS, but CC is the guy who give you the most direct path to Mo. Andy is more likely to get you 6 or 7 innings. In a game other than 6 or 7 it wouldn’t matter as much, but at this juncture you go with your best, get it done and move on.
Doesn’t matter if it’s the ALCS or World Series – it’s a no-brainer to pitch Pettitte in Game 6.
Frankly, as great as Sabathia has been, it’s exrememly tough for one pitcher to beat a team three times in a single series.
I have all the confidence in the world in Sabathia. But I’m all for avoiding that third start against one of the top offenses in the game.
Sooner or later, they are going to start getting better looks at him. That’s too good of a lineup to hold down for that long.
No one is answering my question. Deep down the ONLY reason for pitching Andy today is to set up CC for game 1. It’s the opposite of panic, it borders on overconfidence and I guarantee you that is what Scioscia is going to tell his team tonight in the clubhouse before the game. “They aren’t going with their best because they want to save him for Game 1″
I have Faith in GOD,but believe in people.One you worship(faith) the other you don’t(believe.)imo
I believe the Yankees will win,and Andrew Pettitte will be on his game.
I like Nick Swisher, but I didn’t find this quote very helpful.
“It’s just one of those things where you want to do so well,” Swisher said. “It just hasn’t happened but it’s all right because right now we’re sitting 3-2. I mean we’ve got other guys on the team that are banging, driving in runs, picking us up. It’s all right. We’ll be where we need to get.”
Nick I beg to differ a bit. It’s not alright that a guy on a 26M contract through 2011 that isn’t getting his job done. That has nothing to do with the other guys. And despite the efforts of the other guys you ended both rally’s in the last game, the last one to seal the loss. You also didn’t get the runs in in a game 3 loss, a game we should have won. I don’t look at that as being all right.
Aura…IMO if you start CC today that is a sign of panic and what do you do if he loses?
If Andy is good enough for Game 7 then he is good enough for Game 6.
The Yankees need to come out swinging and I’m looking at Robbie “Don’t Ya Know” Cano coming up big tonight.
I think no matter who pitches tonight CC or Andy they would both be making their fifth start of the season vs LAA. That’s just amazingly high for a non-divisional opponent. Saunders will only be making his 3rd start against the Yankees.
Aura,
They are pitching Andy cause it’s his turn in the order. Nothing more.
Personally I disagree with your idea of pitching CC, because it’s like Girardi and his binder. It’s over thinking.
Scioscia can tell his team whatever he wants. Baseball isn’t football or basketball. You can’t give a speach and go win on emotion. In fact, being over ampted in baseball usually works against you.
As for Game 6 in 2003 WS, I did mention that. He pitched VERY well. The offense was a non factor. Last I checked, he doesn’t control that.
The only reason for pitching Andy today is because we are over confident? How about because its his turn to pitch in the rotation and it makes MUCH more sense for CC to pitch in game 7, as scheduled.
This argument is so silly because regardless of what anyone thinks, Andy’s on the mound tonight.
Quick question…before I head out for the game tonight, do I wear the same get-up as I had on last night before the game got called? I think everything’s gotta be the same (minus a few layers). I dont want to jinx anything.
Scioscia would do the exact same thing as Girardi. No decent manager would panic like that.
It’s not like Chad Gaudin is getting the start. It’s freaking Andy Pettitte – the guy with more postseason experience and success than the entire Angels rotation combined.
Vader, I’m not arguing that Girardi should wake up this morning and flip flop, I’m arguing that it was a mistake to make the decision so many days ago. I think if he left it open, like Scioscia did, he could have a serious upper hand now with the Angels thinking they were snake bit with the rainout yesterday. No one at that point would be questioning the decision to start CC on regular rest and hold out Andy for a possible game 7. But I agree, to change now or after he made the announcement that Andy was game 6 rain or shine would be a sign of panic.
GF States: “The Yanks are in a dire condition? I don’t get that at all.
Who has the uphill climb here?
It’s the Angels who are on the brink of elimination, not the Yanks. The Yank lead the series 3-2.
It’s amazing how people still don’t have any faith in this team.”
I have faith in the team.
I have faith in Pettitte.
I think they’ll win tonight.
I understand the idea of saving CC for Game 1 of the World Series. I want him there also.
But…
1. If the Yankees lose today – we lost CC until Game 3 of the W.S.
2. If the Yankees lose today – all the pressure is on them tomorrow.
3. CC Sabathia is the better pitcher. Of that there is no question.
I wish I could reccall this debate a few years ago – I just don’t have the time to look it up, but it was a similar debate – “hold back the ace, just in case…, if we win we’ll have him for Game 1 of the next series… the other guy is good… he’s done it before…etc…”
As I recall the team lost the game the ace didn’t start – and then with all the marbles on the table lost the deciding game as well. It may have been the Yankees vs Detroit series. I think it played out again with Cleveland. The argument was was Wang good enough? Again, I don’t have the time to research it.
Then all the second guesses said, “Your ace was available – you use your best when your best is available.”
Again, this isn’t anti-Pettitte. It’s CC is the best starting pitcher on the team and the purpose and mission is to win TODAY – not “Well, if we lose, we have CC tomorrow.”
Win today – move to the next series.
The pitcher who gives the Yankes the best chace of winning today is CC Sabathia. Of that there is no argument or debate.
Vader October 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Aura…IMO if you start CC today that is a sign of panic and what do you do if he loses?
If Andy is good enough for Game 7 then he is good enough for Game 6.
The Yankees need to come out swinging and I’m looking at Robbie “Don’t Ya Know” Cano coming up big tonight.
Simple formula, the A’s and Yanks both need to be looking to scratch out runs. As I commented last night getting Lackey back into the mix was a hugh plus for them with the rainout. Yanks are favored by 1 1/2 runs again tonight which is close to being even. I think tonight’s win is critical to the Yanks. You don’t want to get into the situation where the outcome may hinge on another blown call by the umps, a questionable decision by our manager, a error or the continued failure to hit in key situations by a number of batters.
Who ever bats behind AROD has to have a big game. LA has decided to not have AROD beat them so look for them to pitch around him in key situations. The pressure is also on Tex to come through, he should be seeing good pitches.
GF stated, “Frankly, as great as Sabathia has been, it’s exrememly tough for one pitcher to beat a team three times in a single series.
I have all the confidence in the world in Sabathia. But I’m all for avoiding that third start against one of the top offenses in the game.
Sooner or later, they are going to start getting better looks at him. That’s too good of a lineup to hold down for that long.”
All the more reason to use CC TODAY. If he can’t stop them – then as the logic hold, we have Pettitte, the Great Big Game Pitcher, for Game 7.
If we think they’ll solve CC his next time, then if Pettitte loses – we go in to tomorrow’s game very worried indeed.
Why continue to debate something already settled?
Who wouldn’t want CC lined up for today?
CC can’t win all 4 games of a series,the other pitchers need to step up.
Yankees can’t limp to the WS,get a decisive win today and end it!
“Why continue to debate something already settled?”
Just because it’s fun.
I’ll be there tonight hanging on every pitch.
We all want the same thing – and if the Yankees win tonight – all is well with the world. Well, the Yankee World.
I’m out – got things to do.
As I read back on my posts, sorry for all the typos…
Paul C October 25th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Why continue to debate something already settled?
Who wouldn’t want CC lined up for today?
CC can’t win all 4 games of a series,the other pitchers need to step up.
Yankees can’t limp to the WS,get a decisive win today and end it!
I agree today is the game, no one wants a game 7 and it’s resulting crapshoot and the no tomorrow scenario. Yanks pitching will really be messed up for the Philly.
Aura
You’ve been singing the same tune for a day now. Either add something new to the conversation or change the record. You’re getting boring.
Initialy I thought CC tonight should be the way to go. If you have a chance to finish it, you finish it now. Think Beckett game 6. You don’t save bullets for later. Maybe that’s old school.
I have since changed my mind. For me, this year is not only about winning. It’s about exorcising some deamons. 2004, Alex, The Angels, to name a few.
It’s also about the inaugural season at the Stadium. Like most of us, I am very baseball superstitious. It’s not only that we win, it’s how and where we win.
For me Andy, like Mo, like Derek, like Jorge are the Yankees. How could I not want Andy to start a big game at the stadium?
CC is great, and if the team stumbles today, I have all the faith in the world that he will pick us up tomorrow.
So maybe starting Andy is old school after all.
“Girardi is being too loyal to a pitcher who stopped being a big game pitcher 10 years ago.”
Aura, what a crock.
So Andy hasn’t been a big game pitcher in ten years?
Really?
Here’s all of Andy’s post-season appearances in the last 10 years:
Game 3, 2009 ALDS, 6.1 IP, 1 ER, Win
Game 3, 2009 ALCS, 6.1 IP, 3 ER, no decision
Game 2, 2007 ALCS, 6.1 IP, 0 ER, no decision
Game 2, 2003 ALDS, 7 IP, 1 ER, Win
Game 2, 2003 ALCS, 6.2 IP. 2 ER, Win
Game 6, 2003 ALCS, 5 IP, 4 ER, no decision
Game 2, 2003 WS, 8.2 IP, 0 ER, Win
Game 6, 2003 WS, 7 IP, 1 ER. Loss
Game 2, 2002 ALDS, 3 IP, 4 ER, no decision
Game 2, 2001 ALDS, 6.1 IP. 1 ER, Loss
Game 1, 2001 ALCS, 8 IP, 1 ER, Win
Game 5, 2001 ALCS, 6.1 IP, 3 ER, Win
2001 ALCS Series MVP
Game 2, 2001 WS, 7 IP, 4 ER, Loss
Game 6, 2001 WS, 2 IP, 6 ER, Loss
Game 2, 2000 ALDS, 7.2 IP, 0 ER, Win
Game 5, 2000 ALDS, 3.2 IP, 5 ER, no decision
Game 3, 2000 ALCS, 6.2 IP, 2 ER, win
Game 1, 2000 WS, 6.2 IP, 3 ER, no decision
Game 5, 2000 WS, 7 IP, 0 ER, no decision
A couple of flops, but the vast majority are great starts. Girardi is doing exactly the right thing.
If you want CC to start, fine. But don’t spout off nonsense about Andy Pettitte to try to prove it.
Baseball Guy October 25th, 2009 at 10:41 am
“Why continue to debate something already settled?”
Just because it’s fun.
I’ll be there tonight hanging on every pitch.
We all want the same thing – and if the Yankees win tonight – all is well with the world. Well, the Yankee World.
I’m out – got things to do.
As I read back on my posts, sorry for all the typos…
Tough night for NY fans. I’ll be watching Giants, but flipping back and forth at a furious rate. The whole schedule for times and days is stupid. Baseball needs to take back ownership of the game from the networks, it’s the almighty dollar again in action.
What’s the weather today in NYC? 72 here in Fla going to 88. Sorry
Morning all.
The party’s over, half the house guests just returned to SoCal. Let’s hope the Yankees house guests do the same later today!
I really don’t have much to add – I’m glad the game was rained out because much as I would have loved the game to be played, it would have been awful to have Andy pitch 2 or 3 innings (or less) and lose him for the rest of the game and the rest of this series. I do feel badly for all the people who made the trek or were on their way to the Stadium.
It’s a gorgeous day, and it’s too bad MLB didn’t move the game up to a day game, since whatever they do, there’s a football game to conflict with and frankly, having a possible pennant -clinching Yankee game up against the Giants is, well, stupid and really not friendly to this market!!!
Well, at least my dad (who is not a baseball fan, but suffers through the games if there is no choice) will have something to watch while we’re locked into the Yankees.
Fortunately I have a lot to do to keep me busy before game time, but still, I cannot stand the waiting. The constant waiting. And more waiting. Too many off days in the post-season. It’s got to be changed. There was no need for that day off in California. None. (Yeah, yeah, tv contracts, blah, blah, blah – baloney!)
Go Andy! Go Yankees!
Giuseppe Franco –
Hope you’re day is starting off well. You’re one more day closer to recovery.
I’m not trying to sound all full of myself, but I am a pediatric critical care specialist, a physician who specializes in pediatric ICU medicine. I’ve been doing this, taking care of the most critically ill children ages 1 day – to 21 years of age – for the past 23 years. If a child has to go on a mechanical ventilator, or is at risk for doing so, or needs any other form of life support, they are referred to me.
Small children absolutely can get GBS. Yes, it is much less frequent than the already low attack rate in adults, as you correctly point out. But young children can absolutely get it. The youngest child that I can recall with GBS was 18 months old, whose primary doctor thought was just being fussy; that kid wound up getting a tracheostomy for long term mechanical ventilator support, as well as a surgically implanted feeding tube.
My only point is to correct a misimpression. I again wish you the best of luck. By battling through this, and continuing to follow this blog, something that in life and death terms is so trivial, is a testiment to your courage.
Let’s go Yankees, and wrap this up tonight. You are right, GF – we’ve got to keep the faith.
Here are 3 pitchers who started 3 games in a 7 game series in recent history:
2001 Schilling started 3 games against the Yankees with a 1.69 ERA
2001 Randy Johnson started 3 games in the WS with a 1.04 era.
In ’88 Orel Hershiser started 3 games and appeared in 4. He had a 1.09 era in the series.
From a selfist standpoint I am glad the game was rained out last night because I would have missed it while attending a Bar Mitzvah.
I definitely think Andy should pitch tonight and have CC ready for either Game 7 (hopefully not necessary) or Game 1 of the World Series. Besides Andy pitched well in his last start and he has certainly done well in post season play.
Weather is great today too.
Let’s go Yankees!
Joe, just a quick question since you are in the field. Has your clinic received H1N1 vaccine’s from NYSDOH yet? It seems at the rate they are distributing it, at-risk populations wont get fully vaccinated for a long long time.
I have full confidence that Yankees will win tomorow. I just can’t wait for game 6, this has been a long weekend for me without baseball
it’s just too bad that I can only check out the box score live on my iPod touch at school (it will be 8 20 am here when the game starts:( )
Zach – no H1N1 vaccine yet, and not even a tentative delivery date. The DOH has estimated that it will be available “sometime in November”, but right now it’s all guessing.
Aura
October 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Here are 3 pitchers who started 3 games in a 7 game series in recent history:
2001 Schilling started 3 games against the Yankees with a 1.69 ERA
2001 Randy Johnson started 3 games in the WS with a 1.04 era.
In ‘88 Orel Hershiser started 3 games and appeared in 4. He had a 1.09 era in the series.
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Not that you’d have any clue, as usual, but Johnson only started two games in the 2001 WS. You need to go troll the Red sox board. You’re more at home there.
Gary said it best above.
If Pettitte is good enough to pitch Game 7, he is good enough to pitch Game 6.
No decent manager in baseball would pitch Sabathia tonight when it isn’t absolutely necessary. None.
Before drifting off to sleep at his hotel on Saturday night, Joe Saunders knew he’d be having some scary thoughts that could surely lead to nightmares. Thoughts of Derek Jeter’s swing. Of Alex Rodriguez’s power. Of Mark Teixeira’s plate discipline.
Sweet dreams, Joe.
“I’ll probably be thinking about the hitters in bed when I’m tossing and turning,” he said after Game 6 was postponed a day by rain.
“I’m anxious,” he said. “I have to shut my brain down. When I get here [Sunday], I’ll turn it back on again.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0UxY7riP7
Joe from LI,
Thanks for the info. I had never heard of this disease until I contracted it so I’m still learning all I can.
Thanks for the well wishes.
Joe – no H1N1′s yet, and massive shortages of the seasonal flu shot. The FDA really needs to allow some more companies to start producing. I have a funny feeling that GSK and Sanofi are playing major hanky panky this year, and its not just “production complications”. Or maybe thats just the conspiracy theorist in me?
Gary…thanks for the weather update, while most of us are here in the good’ole northeast fall weather.
However, I’m in RI and it is a nice fall day, wet from yesterday but nice and sunny…think of it as what I like to call great football weather.
I’m looking for number 64!
GB7, yeah I made a mistake, now why don’t you go start your own message board then you can invite whoever you want to discuss your boring point of view with and you won’t be subject to the likes of me? This is a public forum and I’m not trolling. If you don’t care for what I’m saying you can just ignore me, that’s what I do whenever you post. There is nothing preventing you from starting your own discussion on this board – oh but of course, you don’t have anything to say do you? Your only point of existence here is to attack others.
Aura, maybe if you weren’t always the skunk at the picnic, people would respond better to you.
Go Yankees.
MT, I never have a problem with anyone here but GB7.
Doesn’t matter if it’s Andy or CC, we still need to hit Saunders.
Anyone else excited? Nervous?
lol.
new thread
“If you don’t care for what I’m saying you can just ignore me, that’s what I do whenever you post.”
GreenBeret7
You must feel honored that Aura made an exception to respond to you this time instead of ignoring you like he says he always does.
Aura,
It’s nothing personal. GB7 has a problem with everyone, even his internet friends.
Are we giving weather reports from around the globe?
Raining and dark here.
m, then he should be banned for making personal attacks. I have never attacked anyone on this forum and deserve the same respect I afford others.
Zach – well, stranger things have happened, that’s for sure. The business of vaccine production is far from straightforward.
On the production end, you have the drug companies guessing – very educated guesses, but still guesses – what flu strains to make vaccine for many months in advance. Then they have to actually produce the lots, in a complex and time-consuming process (usually growing the virus particles in eggs, or some other culture medium; it’s not like you can speed up the life cycle). Then, there’s the requisite testing.
On top of that are liability concerns, where you’re talking hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more.
Then, on the delivery end, doctors and clinics have to pre-order, pay upfront (for private docs, the cost can be tens of thousands of dollars up front, which is a lot for a local MD running his own office), and invest in appropriate temperature-controlled storage.
And finally, administration to patients, for which insurance companies typically re-imburse pennies on the dollar, under the guise of being bundled into the routine office-visit payment. And, if the insurance company does pay, it’s months late. So, there’s there’s financial difficulties involved at the end of the line. Plus potential liability concerns for the poor guy who’s actually giving the shot.
It’s a crazy world.
It’s much easier to agonize over the Game 6 starter
m
October 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Aura,
It’s nothing personal. GB7 has a problem with everyone, even his internet friends.
Are we giving weather reports from around the globe?
Raining and dark here.
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Mel, I only have issues with people that make stupid remarks. When was the last time that Mr. Aura ever made a post or statement that wasn’t a whine? It’s a troll, as much as Jim-Pir-One is.
Absolutely not true GB7 and you know it. I’ve been on this board cheering the Yankees since 2008. Many sports fans enjoy picking apart decisions and strategy. It does nothing to do with my love of the team. You are not the Lohud police, you have not been appointed to ridicule anyone who does not adhere 100% to the Girardi party line and as I said before, if that’s what you want then start your own blog.
This incessant droning about how CC should pitch Game 6 as if Andy Pettite were some kind of bum is getting tedious. Yes, I get it, CC has been lights out this series.
Sheesh. At this point I want Pettite to win as much to make the CC-or-bust people eat crow as to send the Yanks to the World Series.
Flu Vaccine Exposed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBlxqmOMKM