A few things to look for in the coming days
Not surprisingly, the Yankees are off today. One would imagine the cleaning staff at Yankee Stadium, on the other hand, is hard at work.
Tomorrow is the official World Series media day, with both teams doing workouts at Yankee Stadium. There will be press conferences with the managers and Game 1 starters (CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee), as well as plenty of clubhouse access for reporters. We’ll be blogging all day, of course.
On Wednesday, The Journal News and LoHud.com will produce its comprehensive World Series special section. We’ll have all types of coverage, scouting reports, match-ups and more. Also on Wednesday, Chad and I are planning to do another live video chat to answer all your questions about the Yankees-Phillies match-up. We’ve had a great time with the earlier ones this postseason, and if you want to check those out to see what to expect, go here.
Then, of course, comes the main event. Wednesday night, Game 1, Yankee Stadium. Unlike the ALCS, there are no weird off days in the series, so it’s the standard layout: Games 1 & 2 at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday and Thursday; Games 3, 4 & 5 in Philly on Saturday, Sunday and Monday; then Games 6 and 7 back in the Bronx on Wednesday and Thursday.
It’s going to be a great week. Keep checking back all day everyday for non-stop coverage from all of us.
UPDATE, 10:06 a.m.: For those who are looking for pictures from last night, check out this gallery of photos from the game itself.





Chad Jennings
Josh Thomson






Three out of Four dudes on Yahoo pick the Yanks
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....W2a2wRvLYF
Greatest photo of the season…..
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports…..oto_num=24
HA HA!!!!!!!! Thats great stuff.
GTLU is a pretty easy game these days.
When the WS is over, let’s keep it up, right here at LoHud, with GTSQ (Guess the Starting Quarterback) for the Giants and Jets…
Should be exciting
How about this picture with Hal hiding behind his big sister to keep Jeter from drowning him with the bubbly.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..enner.html
Yankees in 7.
It is now time to play “Guess the World Series Roster”
How much with Joe Girardi and Brian Cashman shake things up? I don’t know. Maybe a little, maybe a lot. You decide
Submit your World Series rosters here until 5pm today.
To make my life easier, please list out the players using numbers like this:
1) Derek Jeter
2) Alex Rodgriguez
3) Mark Teixeira
(I just gave away 3 roster spots :lol)
Winners announced when the roster is finalized
repost, since I was too late for the last thread:
Did anybody hear the McCarver quote: “It is appropriate that Mariano Rivera starts every pitch with a bow.” He never explained himself. What did he mean by that? Does he think Mariano is Japanese? Maybe that he is a modern day Samurai? What else? It was very confusing, and as usual, probably very little basis for it; and as always, no follow up question from Buck.
Stultus Magnus
October 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am
GTLU is a pretty easy game these days.
When the WS is over, let’s keep it up, right here at LoHud, with GTSQ (Guess the Starting Quarterback) for the Giants and Jets…
Should be exciting
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You’d be surprised how much variety I was getting in the last few rounds. Girardi also changed things up by flipping Posada and Matsui. Will that last??
How will the line up change when we play in Philly???
Such questions are the very heart of the GTLU excitement
i think we will see Hinske on the roster this time around..
Looks like the link I posted didnt work…
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....oto_num=24
CC pic, spraying an old lady!
I really want to see Pedro pitch Game 2. Pedro needs to get a good beating.
Erica,
Is this sufficient? Same roster, except Guzman out, Hinske in.
Hitman -
Don’t think it’s CC, though it is a great picture.
(He looks too slender to be CC, and the slim sideburns – whatever they’re called – are not there.)
Mark in Tampa -
I heard McCarver say that ridiculous statement, too. Actually, it’s probably best that Buck ignored it.
Mark in Tampa
October 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Erica,
Is this sufficient? Same roster, except Guzman out, Hinske in.
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I am sorry, but please list it out as asked. I copy and paste into excel to keep all the entries straight. Thats why I want the specific format
Those pics are hilarious! I love how the Yankees got the fans involved by spraying them………has another team ever done that?
McCarver made a few weird comments last night. There was one that I actually said “what?” out loud.
1. Posada
2. Teixeira
3. Cano
4. Jeter
5. Rodriguez
6. Damon
7. Cabrera
8. Swisher
9. Matsui
10. Hinske
11. Molina
12. Gardner
13. Hairston
14. Sabathia
15. Burnett
16. Pettitte
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Bruney or Cervelli
Erica -
Here’s my submission for GTWSR:
1) Jeter
2) Damon
3) Teixeira
4) Arod
5) Posada
6) Matsui
7) Cano
8 ) Swisher
9) Cabrera
10) Hairston
11) Hinske
12) Gardner
13) Sabathia
14) Burnett
15) Pettitte
16) Rivera
17) Chamberlain
18) Hughes
19) Coke
20) Marte
21) Gaudin
22) Aceves
23) Robertson
24) Molina
25) Bruney
Trevor-
You have to choose. Bruney or Cervelli is cheating!!!!
1) Jeter
Swisher
2) Arod
3) Cano
4) Teixeira
5) Damon
6) Posada
7) Melky
9) Molina
10) Cervelli
11) Gardner
12) Hairston
13) Hinske
14) Sabathia
15) Burnett
16) Pettitte
17) Gaudin
18) Aceves
19) Robertson
20) Chamberlain
21) Marte
22) Coke
23) Hughes
24) Rivera
25) Matsui
25. Bruney
‘Did anybody hear the McCarver quote: “It is appropriate that Mariano Rivera starts every pitch with a bow.” He never explained himself. What did he mean by that? Does he think Mariano is Japanese? Maybe that he is a modern day Samurai? What else? It was very confusing, and as usual, probably very little basis for it; and as always, no follow up question from Buck.’
Dementia.
Yea, Ive been saying it for yrs….McCarver needs to be dropped from the broadcast. He is The Worst. Although Chip Carey is a close second!!!
I’m seeing some very funny things on facebook right now. My favorite is a bumper sticker that says “Lets get together to watch the world series if you’re not too busy keeping a mets fan on suicide watch”
http://www.someecards.com/card.....cide-watch
I used to watch games with the radio on, but now with the huge delays I can’t do it anymore.
My friend asked what McCarver meant by the ‘bowing’ statement. I just shrugged.
Just like the MLB (supposedly) rates umpires and chooses the best for the postseason, FOX should do the same for broadcasting. The only people worse than the FOX dynamic duo are the TBS broadcasters.
Erica,
1- Jeter
2- Damon
3- Teiexeira
4- Arod
5- Posada
6- Matsui
7- Cano-
8- Swisher
9- Cabrera
10- Molina
11- Hairston
12- Gardner
13- Hinske
14- Sabathia
15- Burnett
16- Pettitte
17- Gaudin
18- Rivera
19- Hughes
20- Chamberlain
21- Robertson
22- Coke
23- Burney
24- Aceves
25- Marte
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
15. Sabathia
16. Burnett
17. Pettitte
18. Gaudin
19. Rivera
20. Hughes
21. Chamberlain
22. Robertson
23. Coke
24. Marte
25. Aceves
‘Did anybody hear the McCarver quote: “It is appropriate that Mariano Rivera starts every pitch with a bow.”
That was stupid. It’s painful to listen to those guys. I would constantly keep the mute button on, but the girlfriend doesn’t like it, so we alternate and I caught that idiotic statement.
For those with a 5.1 Surround Sound system, mute the center channel and as a result, you can mute the broadcasters and nothing else.
It was like watching a silent game, you could hear the crowd cheering, the noise when the bat hits the ball, it was awesome.
“How come CB hasn’t come on to talk about how bunts are useless?
How come SJ44 isn’t talking about how we need to trade Alex and Joba?
How come Randy isn’t congratulating Cashman for constructing the team?
How come none of them pointed out how putrid Zposafa is at the plate?
How come none of them apologized to Trisha that she was right and they were wrong?”
imback-
wow, thanks for giving me my best compliment ever on this blog by including me with CB and SJ44.
i’m not sure i deserve it though.
they definitely are the best posters on the blog and one of the main reasons i read it.
as for posada, he’s had a .845 OBP in the post season so far.
just watched video of molina dumping champagne on posada wth glee.
keep hating on posada if you want , but you’re out of touch with how players are with each other.
posada and molina like each other.
they are teammates on a team going to the world series.
the yankees are there because of the job both of them did this year.
thanks again for including me with sj44 and CB.
that plus the yankees winning last night makes my day
I watch the ESPN and Fox telecasts with the mute button on. However, I DVR the games to play back certain plays and do listen to the audio then, but it’s painful like McCarver’s nonsensical comment.
Starters: (9)
Jeter, Damon, Teixeira, Rodriguez, Posada, Matsui, Cano, Swisher, Cabrera
Bench: (5)
Gardner, Molina, Hairston, Cervelli, Hinske
Starting Pitchers: (3)
Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte
Bullpen: (8)
Rivera, Hughes, Chamberlain, Marte, Coke, Robertson, Gaudin, Aceves
There’s no way I go with Bruney, he hasn’t pitched in awhile. Also, Guzman is basically worthless in my opinion. Hinske could be useful in a national league game as a pinch hitter.
patrick-
isn’t there less time for this series?
link to the schedule anyone?
aren’t they going to need 4 starters?
Patrick,
I think you are going to get a message from the Format Police!
randy l -
No random off days in Philly. So it’s 2 in NY, day off, 3 in Philly, day off, 2 in NY (if needed, of course).
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
15. Sabathia
16. Burnett
17. Pettitte
18. Gaudin
19. Rivera
20. Hughes
21. Chamberlain
22. Robertson
23. Coke
24. Marte
25. Aceves
I think only change is Hinske in for Guzman..
It feels so good to be back, I never want to leave. I was at the Giant game last night and I couldn’t even pay attention. It was amazing to see how little people cared about the game in front of them (even though) it was a bad loss.
I’ve already manned up and ordered signed baseballs by all the big boppers (Rivera, Jeter, Posada, etc). I hope they come out with one of those celebration photos signed by all the players because that’s the kind of thing I really want.
I’m smelling a sweep……
http://www.steinersports.com/s.....Cats=15063
Gm 1 Philadelphia Phillies @ New York Yankees Wed Oct. 28 TBD FOX
Gm 2 Philadelphia Phillies @ New York Yankees Thu Oct. 29 TBD FOX
Gm 3 New York Yankees @ Philadelphia Phillies Sat Oct. 31 TBD FOX
Gm 4 New York Yankees @ Philadelphia Phillies Sun Nov. 1 TBD FOX
Gm 5* New York Yankees @ Philadelphia Phillies Mon Nov. 2 TBD FOX
Gm 6* Philadelphia Phillies @ New York Yankees Wed Nov. 4 TBD FOX
Gm 7* Philadelphia Phillies @ New York Yankees Thu Nov. 5 TBD FOX
From MLB.com
They will need 4 starters unless everybody goes on 3 days rest. However, I think the only pitcher the Yankees are comfortable with on 3 days is CC.
I’ll add one significant fact regarding this whole Posada hatred:
When Posada caught in 2009, the Yankees record was 64-34
When Molina caught in 2009, the Yankees record was 23-19
If Molina catches all year and the Yankees record is similar, they don’t make the post season, just like last year when Posada missed most of it.
The ‘Posada haters’ contended all year that Molina should catch more games, this morphed into ‘Molina should catch Burnett’ at the end of the year.
While Posada had a bad game at the plate last night, he hit the series winning HR in the ALDS.
The ‘Posada Haters’ also tend to hate Robbie Cano, the best 2nd baseman in the AL who virtually saved the game last night with his defense late in the game and who put the Yankees ahead in game 5.
I lot of them prefer Gardner over Cabrera-meanwhile, Melky had a great ALCS.
The ‘Posada Haters’ also don’t know much about baseball, they think it’s a video game where there are no unexpected results. Baseball is all about probability, not absolutes-you play your best players whenever possible because they have a better chance to succeed than your bench. One game has nothing to do with the next because a single game isn’t enough to determine anything in baseball, that’s why they play 162 games.
Mark in Tampa
October 26th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Patrick,
I think you are going to get a message from the Format Police!
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A new nickname!!!! Woohoo!!!! LOL
I let it go, I am not very busy today and I don’t feel like getting all Gestapo
If I remember correctly, Gaudin has big trouble getting lefty batters out. I think the Yankees best chance to win this thing is to use three starters and have AJ and Pettitte on short rest their 2nd games with CC short rest his 2nd and 3rd game if needed.
Maybe this?
Game 1- Sabathia
2-Burnett
3-Pettitte
4-Sabathia-3 days rest
5-Gaudin
6-Burnett, with Pettitte as insurance
7-CC on 3 days again.
Gaudin against those lefty Phillie batters in Philly will be ugly. I rather go with short rest and three starters for their 2nd starts and CC’s 3rd. All three starters have been rested pretty good in September and October. It’s their last games for the year. Go for it!
Mark in Tampa
October 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Maybe this?
Game 1- Sabathia
2-Burnett
3-Pettitte
4-Sabathia-3 days rest
5-Gaudin
6-Burnett, with Pettitte as insurance
7-CC on 3 days again.
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I am not sure how I feel about all of this pitching on 3 days rest Sabathia is doing.
I do not have much mechanical baseball knowledge, so I can very well be wrong. But we have 6 more years invested in CC. I am not sure I want him overpitching so much
It’s the World Series.
In the NL park, you need more pitchers due to the lineup changes that take place after the 5th and 6th, when the pitcher is removed for a pinch hitter.
Same lineup as before, with Bruney in, Cervelli out, Hinske in, Guzman out.
AJ is pitching to Posada–that experiment is over, or more likely, the team will have to live with one catcher, or lose the DH, in the late innings of AJ’s starts if Molina catches AJ.
Girardi managed the Marlins pretty well in the NL East, so I think he has a handle on the NL thing.
Mark in Tampa,
How about
Game 1- Sabathia
2-Burnett
3-Pettitte
4-Sabathia-3 days rest
And thats it.. Yanks win it in 4..
Cliff Lee’s career ERA against the Yanks: 5.02
McCarver’s bow comment I took to mean that Mo deserves bows before he even throws the pitch because you know it’s going to be a successful performance.
Like at the end of a play, the actors come out and take bows.
I think he was paying him a compliment.
“I am not sure how I feel about all of this pitching on 3 days rest Sabathia is doing.
I do not have much mechanical baseball knowledge, so I can very well be wrong. But we have 6 more years invested in CC. I am not sure I want him overpitching so much”
He’s been baby pretty well in September and October. The Yankees organization will make this decision based on a number of factors including the long-term health of their pitchers.
Erica,
I’m in. Thanks for all of these fun games!
1. Posada
2. Teixeira
3. Cano
4. Jeter
5. Rodriguez
6. Damon
7. Cabrera
8. Swisher
9. Matsui
10. Hinske
11. Molina
12. Gardner
13. Hairston
14. Sabathia
15. Burnett
16. Pettitte
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Bruney
Blackaccord
October 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Mark in Tampa,
How about
Game 1- Sabathia
2-Burnett
3-Pettitte
4-Sabathia-3 days rest
And thats it.. Yanks win it in 4..
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Love it
Just getting caught up. When does daylight savings change? We don’t do that here, but one of the alarm clocks fell back one hour.
That “old lady” is probably CC’s mother. If you notice, the people to her left are wearing championship hats.
Andy tipping his hat to the crowd with his back, showing just his jersey number was so moving. I don’t know why. That man just amazes me. He’s been around the block and back. A few times over.
Trisha, I don’t know what kind of contest you’re running. Just do the standard for me please. Yankees in at least 4 games.
Oh was that for a contest? I was just stating my opinion on what the roster should be and I don’t like long lists taking up half a page.
randy,
Correct, there are no extra off days, the last 4 games will have to be on short rest. You could do:
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) – Sabathia (short rest)
Monday (11/2) – Burnett (short rest)
Wednesday (11/4) – Pettitte (short rest)
Thursday (11/5) – Sabathia (short rest)
or:
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) – Gaudin
Monday (11/2) – Sabathia
Wednesday (11/4) – Burnett
Thursday (11/5) – Pettitte
The first way is somewhat risky but Sabathia gets to pitch more. I’m not sure I trust Gaudin.
Regardless, I’d go with the same roster either way. You only need 11 pitchers.
Crawdaddy
October 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
“I am not sure how I feel about all of this pitching on 3 days rest Sabathia is doing.
I do not have much mechanical baseball knowledge, so I can very well be wrong. But we have 6 more years invested in CC. I am not sure I want him overpitching so much”
He’s been baby pretty well in September and October. The Yankees organization will make this decision based on a number of factors including the long-term health of their pitchers.
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Was the insertion of the word “baby” in there some sort of Freudian slip?? LOL
For those with a 5.1 Surround Sound system, mute the center channel and as a result, you can mute the broadcasters and nothing else.
It was like watching a silent game, you could hear the crowd cheering, the noise when the bat hits the ball, it was awesome
Thanks. Great Idear!
McCarver S___S!
pat
October 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am
McCarver’s bow comment I took to mean that Mo deserves bows before he even throws the pitch because you know it’s going to be a successful performance.
Like at the end of a play, the actors come out and take bows.
I think he was paying him a compliment.
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i think that’s really what he meant.. Its just that he says some many stupid things that even a wiser comment from him sounds stupid..
pat -
The thing is, it’s backwards. You don’t bow before your performance, you bow after.
I think he was probably making some kind of reference to a duel or a samurai or sumo type of thing where opponents bow to each other before the competition. And again, there, Mo is the only one bowing.
It was just a disjointed comment that either needed explanation or for which no explanation could have helped!
(But I do think he was trying to pay Mo a compliment.)
m
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Just getting caught up. When does daylight savings change? We don’t do that here, but one of the alarm clocks fell back one hour.
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Next weekend, Sunday at 2am.
Man, do I love that extra hour of sleep!
Fran-
You’re welcome!
I was goign to skip this one, but last night at 1am there seemed to be a demand for it
CC is pitching games 1,4, and 7.
AJ is pitching game 2.
Pettitte is pitching game 3 and 6.
Do you pitch AJ or Gaudin in game 5? I’m going to look up AJs stats on three days rest. It would be his last start of the season–he has all winter to recover.
Hello everybody,
I wore my sweatshirt and sweatpants for three straight days, put it on Friday after work and only took it off to take a shower on saturday and sunday. I had my doberman in my lap for most of the game last night. The things we do to will our teams to win. I’m positive it had nothing to do with them winning, but it sure made me feel better.
Thought I’d chyme in on CC. I feel confident with him in Games 1 and 4, but I don’t know how he’d hold up for Game 7. It would probably be all hands on deck for Game 7 anyway so I say let’s go for it.
I’m not worried about the next 6 years on his contract. As Jeter just said, getting here is HARD. We might have made it look easy in the 90’s, but it was hard then. You never know when you have this chance again.
Yes, 4 game sweep would be ideal. As for Gaudin, he hasn’t faced Philly this year with us or with SD.
His vs. lefty numbers are not good- .294 avg/ .401 SLG in the NL, .301 avg/ .452 SLG here. But who else would get that start, if necessary? No way they throw Joba there. Can’t start Coke. Aceves? He only started one game all year, he would only go @3 innings if he did start. It would be unthinkable to put Kennedy on the roster for a WS start, if he is even eligible. Besides, I would lose the WS roster game if they did that.
And I can’t see them planning on giving Andy and AJ their second starts on 3 days rest. Maybe that is the answer, though.
doreen-
thanks for that schedule.
patrick-
just plugging in pitchers for the schedule doreen gave i can see sabathia going on three days the 2nd game in philly and then on three days in a game 7 if necessary.
… but burnett on threes days on the 3rd philly game would mean pettitte on three days rest in game 6 in yankee stadium.
in the above scenario, the yankees would be having game 4,5,6, and 7 being started by pitchers on three days rest.
that just doesn’t seem the ideal way to go with burnett and pettitte.
i’m not opposed to it, but i just really wonder about it.
WHY did McCarver say that about MO,Mussina had the same start to his pitchers?
I’m so happy for Yankees Universe,fans,owners’s and the best team in baseball!!
LATIMES.om quotes Tori Hunter,”They beat us fair and square.”
Scoscia thought the Yankees leave their opponent little room for mistakes,and will take advantage of them.
I for one love that it was a clean set of games.no bench clearing brawls with heathens.(You know what team I mean.)
Sabathia pitched on 3 days rest one time all year; in the ALCS.
If the Yankees go with a 3-man rotation in the WS he’d have to do it two more times. Considering he did it for all of September and October last year, I think he should be fine.
I’m still trying to think of a good way to get Sabathia 3 starts while keeping Burnett and Pettitte on regular rest.
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) – Sabathia
Monday (11/2) – Gaudin
Wednesday (11/4) – Burnett
Thursday (11/5) – Sabathia
Seems like the only way is to either drop Pettitte or have both Pettitte and Burnett pitch on short rest then drop Gaudin.
Should be interesting to see what Joe does.
I agree with 3 pitchers:
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) – Sabathia (short rest)
Monday (11/2) – Burnett (short rest)
Wednesday (11/4) – Pettitte (short rest)
Thursday (11/5) – Sabathia (short rest)
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
and of course the relief corps:
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Bruney
randy,
Yes I agree, it’s definitely not ideal. I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with Burnett and Pettitte pitching on short rest. Sabathia can obviously handle it, he’s a monster but Burnett is inconsistent at best and Pettitte’s arm hasn’t been 100% in years.
It’s risky because if Joe goes for it A.J. and Andy could really get blown up by the Phillies offense. Then again, so could Gaudin.
Oh, and reading through the thread last night, how can people use d*** but not p**p? What kind of crazy world is that?
All kinds of new people bringing their foul language. Obscene.
Not to belabor the point, but I don’t know if Scioscia was grumbling about the schedule because it allows us to not dip into our pitching depth. Because he could’ve done the same thing (maybe he should’ve?). I hope Kazmir doesn’t get his stuff together, he really hurt their cause this postseason. And why wouldn’t he bring in Weaver over Kazmir? Was it matchups? He didn’t have the luxury of time to do that. He needed to use his best pitchers. Oh, well.
Oh, and hurray for the small ball. And Swisher breaking through (and some great defense! and picking off peglegs at 1B). And Damon finally getting us on the board after all the guys we had left on base in the first couple of innings.
John sterling epic fail last night Tex sac fly:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2695632/jn.mp3
Ramar-
You have 26 on your roster.
If I insert CC as #15 & Burnett as #26, there is no room for Pettitte. Please remove someone
Accuscore has the Yankees 66-34 for game 1.
The bullpen is deep enough that using 3 starters makes sense to me. Try it. You’ll like it.
sam
October 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
John sterling epic fail last night Tex sac fly:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2695632/jn.mp3
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Sterling has done much much worse
In all fairness, off the bat I thought that was gone too
the only way they would have CC pitch 3 games in the WS is if they decide to pitch both Burnett and Andy on 3 days rest as well, it doesn’t make any sense any other way. Burnett has pitched well on 3 days rest and Andy probably hasn’t done it in many years. They really don’t need to make a decision until after game 2 since the next day is when CC would throw a bullpen if he was going on normal rest. If they win 2 in New York it’s more likely they would go with a #4 starter figuring they just need at worst 2 out of 3 in games 5-7 and two of them are at home.
You’re right Erica. I got lazy and just copied and pasted w/o adding em up. Correction to follow
“Accuscore has the Yankees 66-34 for game 1.”
A little higher scoring than I would have thought.
I really do like Bruney. However he seems to be the guy I’ll have to leave off. Bye, bye Bruney…
ramar
October 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I really do like Bruney. However he seems to be the guy I’ll have to leave off. Bye, bye Bruney…
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I will update accordingly
I don’t trust AJ or Pettitte on 3 days rest. Especially Pettitte, he needs more rest than that. I think our best chances are with Gaudin for Game 5 scenario. However, the guy has barely pitched. I remember Joe saying before a game in Anahiem that he had Gaudin for 75 pitches in extra innings if need be. That kind of stunts his start off the get go.
All I know is that Girardi made the right decision to go to Andy for Game 6. Only “baseball guy” came back and said he was wrong.
Now, we have the chance to match up CC with Cliff Lee.
I feel comfortable going with Gaudin. Might feel a little better at home since Citizens makes NYS look like the Grand Canyon, but of course, he would line up on the road.
MG,
I agree, that seems like the likely course. However, there is one other way to get Sabathia into 3 games without letting Burnett/Pettitte throw on short rest.
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) – Sabathia
Monday (11/2) – Gaudin
Wednesday (11/4) – Burnett
Thursday (11/5) – Sabathia
The only problem there is, Pettitte only pitches 1 game. I would consider dropping Burnett to the 3 spot and have Pettitte pitch games 2 and 6.
every Yankee fans superstitions worked last night ! the lucky hat, shirt, etc etc. i went back to my lucky hat that was not worn in game 5 (but, admittedly, worn in games 1,2, and 3)
Do you guys want Pedro or Hamels in game 2? Gotta be Pedro right?
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) –sabathia ( 3 days rest)
Monday (11/2) – gaudin
Wednesday (11/4) – Burnett
Thursday (11/5) – sabathia 3 days rest
girardi doesn’t have to make a decision until game #5.
a lot could happen by then- rain outs, yankees could sweep, bullpen could be really fresh which would help a gaudin start. etc
i im thinking that girardi should go through game 4 and then make the decision.
if gaudin starts game 5 he’s probably not going past 4 innings. the bullpen which would have to be used a lot would get a day off the next day so that works.
pettitte would only get one start, but would be ready on 4 days rest for backing up sabathia for game seven if necessary.
MG, if you only pitch Burnett 1 gm, you get a disgruntled SP for the next 4 yrs. Andy is way TOOOOOO good to pitch just 1 game. EVERY-BODY on short rest!
With the rotation someone posted above, It makes me believe that we’re winning this in Game 7 ( Andy on the mound…that seems to be the trend this year). Although I MUCH rather do it in 6 ( as much as I hate losing,and I wouldnt complain about a sweep, its way more fun to win in the bronx!)
Question: Where was Cashman last night?
randy l.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Wednesday (10/28) – Sabathia
Thursday (10/29) – Burnett
Saturday (10/31) – Pettitte
Sunday (11/1) –sabathia ( 3 days rest)
Monday (11/2) – gaudin
Wednesday (11/4) – Burnett
Thursday (11/5) – sabathia 3 days rest
girardi doesn’t have to make a decision until game #5.
a lot could happen by then- rain outs, yankees could sweep, bullpen could be really fresh which would help a gaudin start. etc
i im thinking that girardi should go through game 4 and then make the decision.
if gaudin starts game 5 he’s probably not going past 4 innings. the bullpen which would have to be used a lot would get a day off the next day so that works.
pettitte would only get one start, but would be ready on 4 days rest for backing up sabathia for game seven if necessary.
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I think you have the best plan. I still have concerns about so much short rest, but what do I know. I just want a parade
Sami October 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am
For those with a 5.1 Surround Sound system, mute the center channel and as a result, you can mute the broadcasters and nothing else.
It was like watching a silent game, you could hear the crowd cheering, the noise when the bat hits the ball, it was awesome.
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Great tip, thanks!
I’m a senior at Villanova University right now, right outside of Philly. As a Yankees fan I know this series is going to be tough cause they are a good team. I respect that but these Phillies fans don’t seem to have much respect. My campus is turning on itself with so many fans of each team. Just letting everyone know that these Phillies are already talking trash and nothing else so its time to rub it in their faces.
Joe V.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Question: Where was Cashman last night?
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He decided this Yankee postseason crap wasn’t that important and opted to stay home and watch Desperate Housewives and Mad Men
“if gaudin starts game 5 he’s probably not going past 4 innings. the bullpen which would have to be used a lot would get a day off the next day so that works.”
I don’t think Gaudin makes it out of the 3rd inning at Citizens Park.
Guy
October 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I’m a senior at Villanova University right now, right outside of Philly. As a Yankees fan I know this series is going to be tough cause they are a good team. I respect that but these Phillies fans don’t seem to have much respect. My campus is turning on itself with so many fans of each team. Just letting everyone know that these Phillies are already talking trash and nothing else so its time to rub it in their faces
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Of course they are talking trash. During Game 5, 7th inning NLCS Phillies fans already started chanting “Yankees Suck” LOL
I think you guys are right, Girardi isn’t going to make a decision on all 7 starters right now. He’ll make decisions as the situation dictates. I think the only thing we know right now is that CC, Burnett and Pettitte will start games 1, 2 and 3.
Sabathia vs Lee is going to be a great match-up, I can’t wait to expose Lee. He’s good but he hasn’t faced a lineup like the Yankees in a long time.
Patrick, I would also be in favor of Andy pitching game 2 in front of Burnett but he would only have 3 days rest.
If they go with regular rest CC would be available out of the bullpen behind Andy in a potential game 7, he would have 2 days rest and there is no reason for him to throw a bullpen session the day of game 6. Andy has pitched 14 times in his career on 3 days rest and his results are about the same as 4 days but hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest since returning to the Yankees, it’s not likely they would do it now since he’s pitched so well in the post-season.
If I’m Girardi I wait until the end of game 2 to make a decision-if the Yankees lose both game then CC has to go in game 4, if they split it’s a call either way. If they win 2 I would stick with regular rest since they would only need 2 out of 5 games to win the World Series.
“I’m a senior at Villanova University right now, right outside of Philly. As a Yankees fan I know this series is going to be tough cause they are a good team. I respect that but these Phillies fans don’t seem to have much respect. My campus is turning on itself with so many fans of each team. Just letting everyone know that these Phillies are already talking trash and nothing else so its time to rub it in their faces.”
I expect nothing less than being confident about their team since they’re the defending champ.
I live in philly suburbs and showed up to my son’s soccer game with the yankees gear on.. It will be interesting to see people’s reaction in the coming days.. No one really seemed to pay much attention all these days..
They’ve tried to convert my 6 year old into a phillies fan in his school.. Too bad that my wife wouldn’t let them do that..:)
Who starts game 4?
CC (short rest)
JOBA (apparently the Yankees found out that he has been tipping his pitches)
GAUDIN
I meant Too bad for them that my wife wouldn’t let them do that..:)
The ‘Posada Haters’ also don’t know much about baseball
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That’s really all you needed to say on that subject.
I really get ticked off when ppl downplay Ca$h’s importance. I hear things like he has a blank chk book. Team chemistry is oh so important. Ca$h, GREAT job.
So stoked.
So utterly and unbelievably stoked.
Wouldn’t AJ at home make more sense?
I hope Girardi commits to his first 3 pitchers, and lets the series score dictate what he does after that. If we’re not up 3 games to 1, I wouldn’t feel too comfortable going with Gaudin in a game 5.
I think going straight up with the 4 pitchers might be the way to go. If Chad gets into trouble, give him the quick hook. We have a good bullpen, and our offense should be able to get into their bullpen and put some runs on the board.
Talking of tipping pitches, looks like Hamels might have been doing that.. check out this article and look at the size of his glove..
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,197886
Joe V.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Question: Where was Cashman last night?
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Rumor has it he was giving Chapman a tour of the stadium while the celebration was going on.
Philly fans are loud and obnoxious, I expect nothing less from them.
for those of you talking about mccarver’s ineptitude, how about when he mentioned the “only other team” matsui could sign with is the mariners “because they have ichiro.” that’s like saying “torri hunter would love to play on the yankees, because they have cc sabathia, they’re both black, so they’d love to play together.”
Pettitte can’t pitch Game 2 unless he pitches on short rest. Don’t see it happening. Girardi has already selected his #2 starter, he won’t mess with that to pitch Andy on short rest.
The Yanks need to decide their rotation before the rosters are chosen, because if Gaudin starts they will want to add Bruney if Girardi intends to continue to manage the bullpen the way he has so far.
With the scarcity of lefties in the Phillies bullpen I think the Yanks will carry Hinske. On the other hand, he hasn’t hit in quite a while and the Yanks may think he won’t be effective coming off the bench.
I’m still not at all sure Girardi will abandon the AJ/Molina tandem, and if he doesn’t they’ll carry Cervelli.
All of that would mean the Yanks would need 26 roster slots, which they don’t have, so they’ll have to compromise somewhere.
I see Guzman being left out, and if the Yanks go with a 4 man rotation Girardi being forced to let Posada catch AJ in order to be able to drop Cervelli to make room for Bruney.
But I’ve been wrong before.
Did anybody read the story about Andy being unhappy with the contract he accepted this offseason?
Also, what’s this on Joba tipping his pitches? Does anybody have a story on that?
i like pizza
October 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
for those of you talking about mccarver’s ineptitude, how about when he mentioned the “only other team” matsui could sign with is the mariners “because they have ichiro.” that’s like saying “torri hunter would love to play on the yankees, because they have cc sabathia, they’re both black, so they’d love to play together.”
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LOL. That was one of the many gems by McCarver last night.
m, Girardi can’t wait until after game 3 because pitchers need to prepare for starts. If CC is pitching on 4 days rest he throws a bullpen session in between, usually on the 2nd day after a start. If he pitches on 3 days rest there is no bullpen session, he said that in the post game interview after game 4. So CC would have to know after game 2.
“Who starts game 4?
CC (short rest)
JOBA (apparently the Yankees found out that he has been tipping his pitches)
GAUDIN ”
Joba? No way in hell.
He’ll be a starter next year but right now he is broken. Let him get an out here and there out of the bullpen. That’s all he can handle right now.
Hey all. I think I’ve memorized MLB’s report on last night’s game. I watched it about 6 times at least! It just doesn’t get old.
Just a few things this morning. I really appreciate imback taking up for me. I’d be lying to say I didn’t. THANK YOU IMBACK. Sincerely.
One thing sorely missing from this celebration is George M. Steinbrenner. When I think about it, it actually makes me cry. If it wasn’t for him, you know we wouldn’t be here celebrating right now. The guy is passion, toughness, and softness, all rolled into one. And he cared about winning, and he cared about the fans. I will always love you, Boss.
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Here’s the chart with last night’s results in there. I screwed up the numbers last night because I forgot to increase the values. Always feel free to check my math and also that I get your prediction right!
http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON.pdf
I will start a World Series chart today. Anyone can be on it.
If you want to make a prediction, please put it in a my post and mention my name in the post. That way I can search to make sure I have everyone’s predictions.
Mel I have your prediction. Fran email me. I want to make sure I got yours right!
OUR YANKEES ROCK!!!
JoeyA,
Didn’t read the article. But Andy had a right to be upset. He made all his incentives and made close to what he would’ve gotten in last season’s market anyway. But if they want him back in 2010, I hope they have they do it the right way this time. Andy’s got leverage this time, though. There’s a big hole without Wang.
Accuscore 66-34 means the Yankees win in 66% of 10,000 computer simulated games. Anything above 53% is pretty good.
Looking back at the May series, the Phils did take it to the Yankees–lots of HR off Pettitte and AJ. However:
(1) CC did not pitch.
(2) Brett Tomko lost the third game in 11 innings.
(3) Kevin Cash was still on the team.
Don’t see any of that happening now.
As someone from Pittsburgh, I must state that I while I like and respect the Phillies, Philadelphia sports fans are some of the worst ever.
You NY guys who follow the Giants must know this from Eagles games, surely? I grew up in DC, and the stories of Philly fans throwing batteries on the field at the players, as well as mooning the Redskins team bus are the stuff of legend.
Patrick October 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I think you guys are right, Girardi isn’t going to make a decision on all 7 starters right now. He’ll make decisions as the situation dictates. I think the only thing we know right now is that CC, Burnett and Pettitte will start games 1, 2 and 3.
Sabathia vs Lee is going to be a great match-up, I can’t wait to expose Lee. He’s good but he hasn’t faced a lineup like the Yankees in a long time.
Opening Day at the Stadium this year, he man handled us as CC imploded.
Your right though, it was a long time ago.
Erin-
I forgot to tell you yesterday. I went to a fair and won a Pirate Big Bird doll. LOL. I think he was a good luck charm. He looked very cute on the couch sitting and watching the game next to Yankee Snoopy
I don’t buy the ‘Joba was tipping his pitches’ line. That doesn’t account for the loss in velocity or his slider spinning instead of biting down. He did well last night, give him credit for that, and hope he will do it again when called on during the World Series.
MG,
I meant announce it. But I can see how they have to prepare. But I know that Girardi will run all the permutations and have contingency plans, too. He’s a smart guy, that one.
Wow. My voice is totally shot.
The Yanks played sound and crisp baseball last night, and pretty much through the entire series.
The stadium was hoppin’ last night from the 1st pitch onwards. Guerrero and Kazmir got it from the crowd pretty bad in the 8th.
It felt like the old stadium last night, in terms of the crowd being literally on-top of the players…Maybe because everyone was standing for a good portion of the game.
What a night!
Mark in Tampa-
I was wondering the same thing w/ the McCarver comment about Mariano. How appropriate is it? Uh… I don’t know Tim.. not.. very?
DB
October 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Patrick October 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I think you guys are right, Girardi isn’t going to make a decision on all 7 starters right now. He’ll make decisions as the situation dictates. I think the only thing we know right now is that CC, Burnett and Pettitte will start games 1, 2 and 3.
Sabathia vs Lee is going to be a great match-up, I can’t wait to expose Lee. He’s good but he hasn’t faced a lineup like the Yankees in a long time.
Opening Day at the Stadium this year, he man handled us as CC imploded.
Your right though, it was a long time ago.
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I don’t think CC imploded opening day. It was our bullpen.
Some Yankees against Lee-
Derek Jeter- 30 PAs, BA .407
A-Rod- 20 PAs, BA .333
Tex- 26 PAs, BA .391
Posada- 22 PAs, BA .286
I also think it’s in the teams best interest at this point to get rid of the 3 catchers (Cervelli) and the extra pinch runner (Guzman)and fill those 2 spots with Hinske and with another pitcher (probably Bruney, but I don’t want to see him the whole series).
Girardi needs to put the Molina/AJ thing in the past. Jorge can catch AJ, he caught him in the ALCS and enough is enough already. That one move constricts the team from having other flexibility.
Unless he decides he doesn’t need the extra pitcher, then you can carry Cervelli (though I wouldn’t).
Hinske though has to be on the roster, especially for the NL games. You need an actual pinch hitter to pinch hit for the pitcher in those games. Having a bench of Matsui and Hinske to pinch hit is a deep bench in the NL park.
I think the word we’re looking for on the bowing comment is “irrelevant”. It added nothing, and I’m sure no one but McCarver knew what he was talking about.
Who’s running the WS? Fox?
Erica-that’s awesome! Snoopy and Big Bird as good luck charms-love it
Have I ever told you how incredibly jealous I am that you have a Yankee Snoopy?
“The only problem there is, Pettitte only pitches 1 game. I would consider dropping Burnett to the 3 spot and have Pettitte pitch games 2 and 6.”
patrick-
that’s an interesting scenario. gaudin would start game 5 and burnett would then be available for a few batters to an inning that game and for the rest of the series out of the pen.
it also puts posada starting all the games except for the one burnett started.
burnett’s last start was really bad despite the good innings in the middle.
the fact is it was the biggest start of his life and and he was horrible in the frst and then again when the yankees went ahead by two.
burnett is new to this.
i’m not sure the world series is where we want to roll the dice with him to see if good aj or bad aj shows up.
in a one start scenario for aj, he’d get one start for experience for the future , and the yankee would have a battle tested pettitte throwing two games, the first one on three days rest and the second game ( the 6th game)on 5 days rest at yankee stadium.
i like having a rested pettitte in a possible game 6 and sabathia on three days for a possible game 7.
Erin
October 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Erica-that’s awesome! Snoopy and Big Bird as good luck charms-love it Have I ever told you how incredibly jealous I am that you have a Yankee Snoopy?
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Awww, Pete Abe came through pretty big there. I was so upset I was a game off from attending Yankee Snoopy night
“Opening Day at the Stadium this year, he man handled us as CC imploded.
Your right though, it was a long time ago.”
My point is, since moving to the National League, Lee has been incredible. He’s a good pitcher but he’s not as good as his stint in the NL has led people to believe.
MR.OCTOBER October 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Who starts game 4?
CC (short rest)
JOBA (apparently the Yankees found out that he has been tipping his pitches)
GAUDIN
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Where did you get that Joba info?
There’s an article on Angels errors=elimination and Scioscia said in his post that you can’t give the Yankees extra outs.
My question is why did the sure handed Angels make so many errors? It’s not like those are ones the Yankees forced with their speed or anything.
I think the Angels did it to themselves. That’s a big mystery for a team that’s big on fundamentals.
Girardi chose AJ to pitch game 2 in the ALDS and the ALCS.
He isn’t going to go away from that in order to pitch Andy in game 2 of the WS on short rest. You are over-reacting to AJ’s and Andy’s last game if you think Girardi will.
Also, I don’t think the Yanks will pitch games 4, 5, 6 and 7 all on short rest. That’s too risky, and they won’t do it, IMO.
The classic way to line up the rotation, and the most likely IMO, is CC-AJ-Andy-Gaudin-CC-AJ-Andy, with CC ready to come into Game 7 at the first sign of trouble.
Was Joba really tipping his pitches?
Love this quote from Alex. Sums up how the year went for him on and off the field.
“In doing the little things, you end up doing big things. That’s the lesson for me.”
So the Yankees and the Phillies are playing in the Series on Sunday. AND the Giants and the Eagles are playing on the same day….
WAR WITH PHILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This year in Damon’s contract,was the year that Theo didn’t want to pay for.
Cashman offered the extra year(and a few more Benjamin’s) how important were Damon’s hits this offseason?
If people could have their way, CC would pitch 4 times or more in this series. It doesn’t work that way. The Yankees got this far because they had 3 solid starters. Take out AJ’s ER from Game 5, and AJ and Andy have pitcher very well. People are forgetting that the Angels offense was as potent as the Yankees offense.
Funny NYT article from 1852 ripping Philly.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/a.....8389649FDE
What are the chances that the Yankees drop Freddie Guzman from the World Series roster and add Eric Hinske to replace him? I would think we would need an extra pinch hitter for the games in Philadelphia.
Erica-wow that was awesome of Pete.
I almost forgot to tell you- I ordered my copy of Follow That Bird. Thanks again for the info!
haiku-man
October 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
This year in Damon’s contract,was the year that Theo didn’t want to pay for.
Cashman offered the extra year(and a few more Benjamin’s) how important were Damon’s hits this offseason?
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You are also forgetting the sad number of people who wanted to bench Damon for the ALCS
WYH,
That seems like the cleanest way to do it but as randy and MG have pointed out, it’s doubtful that Girardi is making any final decisions on starters for games 4-7 yet.
Being that this series is on the east coast in October/November we very well could see some rain-outs that effect the rotations. Also, lets say the Yanks are down 3-0 going into the 4th game, there’s no way Gaudin pitches. I think who starts in games 4-7 will depend on the situation.
Full Yahoo blog on the Yankees/Philly stories
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,198105
“People are forgetting that the Angels offense was as potent as the Yankees offense.”
That’s overstating things a bit but you’re right, the Angels offense is very underrated.
In case it got lost in the previous post
chart – http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON.pdf
I’ll take World Series predictions up to the time of the first pitch. 5 points for right team, 5 points for correct number of games for winning team.
Please put my name in the post if you want to make a prediction.
Man, I forgot about that comment that McCarver made about Matsui. Apparently, Matsui would either stay with the Yanks or go to the Mariners to be with Ichiro, and those were his only options.
I think if you’re going to use CC 3 times, then I’d rather have pettitte start twice over AJ. For one he’s earned it. Also, AJ might be able to step it up in relief and throw heat.
This being said, I’m not sure how I feel about CC going three.
Patrick,
Did I forget “almost”? But you know what I mean. They were up there with the Yankees in the regular season.
Erin
October 26th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Erica-wow that was awesome of Pete.
I almost forgot to tell you- I ordered my copy of Follow That Bird. Thanks again for the info!
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You’re welcome. Just do me a favor and let me know if the 25th anniversary edition is worth chucking the one I already have. LOL
Happy viewing and keep the tissues handy!
Btw- They are coming out with all kinds of stuff for Sesame Street’s 40th anniversary. I just ordered a book off Amazon that sounded amazing
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-S.....amp;sr=8-1
What’s your favorite Angel’s gaffe moment?
-I’ll start,2 simple bunts that yielded base hits.
Kendrick’s bauble of the ball at first after the bunt,and Kazmir(a.k.a. Yankees killer)throwing a 10 foot high ball to first~
I heard there’s going to be a lot of Philly fans at Yankee Stadium.
But not so many Yankee fans at CBP.
Stultus Magnus
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Man, I forgot about that comment that McCarver made about Matsui. Apparently, Matsui would either stay with the Yanks or go to the Mariners to be with Ichiro, and those were his only options.
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Don’t they actually hate each other?????
What struck me about that Ichiro comment is that the rumor is they’re not the best of friends. And anyway, since when do players make their decisions on what players play where?
“Pettitte can’t pitch Game 2 unless he pitches on short rest. Don’t see it happening. Girardi has already selected his #2 starter, he won’t mess with that to pitch Andy on short rest.”
wave your hat-
i’m not so sure about that.
one game on three days rest for pettitte?
that doesn’t seem such a big deal.
burnett was really bad in his last game.
girardi has moved towards micro managing so far this post season so i think he could decide to go with pettitte for two games and one for burnett.
only using pettitte for one game by giving him his full rest doesn’t seem like the right thing either with his post game experience and pitching so well.
if the decision is burnett for two games on full rest and pettitte one game on full rest or pettitte on two games ( the first on three days rest and the last on 5 days rest and burnett for one game on full rest, i’d rather have the first scenario with pettitte getting two starts.
having the short rest start early and the rested start late makes a difference too.
haiku-man
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
What’s your favorite Angel’s gaffe moment?
-I’ll start,2 simple bunts that yielded base hits.
Kendrick’s bauble of the ball at first after the bunt,and Kazmir(a.k.a. Yankees killer)throwing a 10 foot high ball to first~
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Vlad running himself right out last night!
For those who want Andy to move up to the #2 slot and pitch in short rest, you should remember that he has had extra days of before each of his postseason starts. As an older player this is a huge benefit to him. Pitching on short rest would not be a smart move with him.
Patrick-
I think Girardi has to make the decision on his rotation now, because he has to decide how many pitchers to carry. If he’s going to use Gaudin or Chamberlain to start, he’ll need the extra pitcher.
He didn’t have to make that decision in the ALDS or ALCS because of the extra off days.
That doesn’t mean that Joe wouldn’t change the plan later if circumstances required it.
“What’s your favorite Angel’s gaffe moment?”
Fuentes’ 0-2 pitch to Alex.
trisha wrote:
“One thing sorely missing from this celebration is George M. Steinbrenner. When I think about it, it actually makes me cry. If it wasn’t for him, you know we wouldn’t be here celebrating right now. The guy is passion, toughness, and softness, all rolled into one. And he cared about winning, and he cared about the fans. I will always love you, Boss.”
Oh my Gawd. Where were you in the 70s?
randy l-
You could be right of course, but Girardi doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who’s going to be too influenced by a pitcher’s last outing.
He thought AJ was right for game 2 in the ALDS and ALCS – I don’t see why he’d change his mind now, when it means pitching Andy on short rest when he doesn’t have to do it.
Plus, as much as I am an Andy Pettitte fan, AJ is just as likely to throw a good game as Andy is, it seems to me.
the Phillies don’t exactly have the best rotation in history-the thought of Joe Blanton facing the Yankees lineup in game 4 and a ‘running on fumes’ Pedro Martinez in game 2 isn’t exactly scary. The Yankees lineup is far tougher than the Dodgers, Pedro won’t be getting tons of free outs in game 2 like he did in the NLCS.
Also, as good as Ryan Howard is, he doesn’t hit lefties very well-he only hit .207 this year against them. With at least 4 games being started by lefties and 2 in the ‘pen the Yankees can neutralize him far more readily than the Dodgers or Rockies were able.
The dropped popup in the first inning of game one. Right between Figgins and Aybar. I think it set the tone. Or at the very least put the notion that there are Yankee ghosts.
Now the baserunning gaffes were more Yankees than the Angels. Some really heads up play by Jeter, Cano, Alex, and Swisher that the Angels couldn’t have seen coming. A lot of times you get away with overrunning the bag, but Jeter’s been vigilant, almost irritating, getting everyone ont he diamond to pay attention to the baserunners. Didn’t he yell, to keep the person on second last night? And there was a put out right after that?
Erica – always OPPC October 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Stultus Magnus
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Man, I forgot about that comment that McCarver made about Matsui. Apparently, Matsui would either stay with the Yanks or go to the Mariners to be with Ichiro, and those were his only options.
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Don’t they actually hate each other?????
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I don’t know, but I’ve never heard anywhere that they are friends. Or that the Mariners are looking for Japanese DHs this off-season…
Erica-thanks for the link-that book looks incredible. I’ll definitely have to do some more shopping on Amazon later today.
“I think Girardi has to make the decision on his rotation now, because he has to decide how many pitchers to carry. If he’s going to use Gaudin or Chamberlain to start, he’ll need the extra pitcher.”
I disagree. He only needs 11 pitchers regardless of if he uses 3 or 4 starters. I just don’t see the need for 8 guys in the pen, it is overkill. How useful is Bruney really going to be?
The only move I make is to cut Guzman and bring Hinske back. Keep everything else the same.
“The classic way to line up the rotation, and the most likely IMO, is CC-AJ-Andy-Gaudin-CC-AJ-Andy, with CC ready to come into Game 7 at the first sign of trouble.”
wave your hat-
interesting.
i’d think that girardi would want to go with sabathia starting three games and then go from there on making his decisions.
but as you point out and others have, there are a lot of ways to go.
girardi is being paid the big bucks to make the rotation decison.
my feeling has been all along that he’ll tend towards micro managing.
that means he probably won’t take the clean easy way to pick the rotation.
and it might mean he’ll start sabathia and then decide game by game after that though you’d think the game two starter needs to know well ahead of time if they are starting game two.
I’d go with Pettitte on short rest once and full rest the other time rather than start Burnett twice.
I mean, the 80s?
It’s weird how some Yankee fans (well fans in general) take enjoyment in the misery of other teams. Why not pick out the best Yankee moments rather then the worst Angels moments? It’s almost like you guys are happier about the Angels losing than you are about the Yankees winning.
My favorite moment? A-rod blasting the HR off Fuentes
Sorry that chart was wrong also. I think I forgot to increase the values for the NCLS. I so told you that my math bears watching.
I’ll correct and post it, hopefully for the last time. (no comment necessary…)
Patrick
October 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
It’s weird how some Yankee fans (well fans in general) take enjoyment in the misery of other teams. Why not pick out the best Yankee moments rather then the worst Angels moments? It’s almost like you guys are happier about the Angels losing than you are about the Yankees winning.
My favorite moment? A-rod blasting the HR off Fuentes
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Johnny Damon’s comeback hit last night!!!!!!!!!!!
(Capped off by the victory laps I started running around my apartment)
Patrick,
The question was favorite Angels gaffe because there were so many to choose from.
Randy, as much as I like Andy he hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest since returning to the Yankees in 2007. If he does pitch in game 2 and is ineffective it puts the Yankees in a hole and then have to depend on Burnett anyway in game 3. Pitching him in game 3 gives him 5 days rest and his performance all year with that extra rest have been much better. He was 6-6 with a 4.57 ERA on 4 days rest and 6-1 with a 3.63 ERA on 5 days rest in 2009, that is a very strong argument for him pitching game 3. That would also say that in 2010, if Andy comes back, it would be a good idea for he, Joba and Hughes to pitch on 5 days rest all year-Andy because he needs it, Joba and Hughes because of any innings restrictions.
“I disagree. He only needs 11 pitchers regardless of if he uses 3 or 4 starters. I just don’t see the need for 8 guys in the pen, it is overkill. How useful is Bruney really going to be?”
That’s if you were manager. Heck, if I were manager I’d go your way.
But Girardi’s the manager, and I think he thinks he needs all the guys in the pen. Just based on his previous decisions, if he wants the option of starting Gaudin or Chamberlain I think he’ll want one more pitcher in the pen.
I personally think the best way to go is eleven pitchers, with Hinske and Guzman in and Bruney and Cervelli out.
But something tells me that’s not what Girardi’s going to do, and I can’t argue with his success so far.
Erica – always OPPC October 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Stultus Magnus
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Man, I forgot about that comment that McCarver made about Matsui. Apparently, Matsui would either stay with the Yanks or go to the Mariners to be with Ichiro, and those were his only options.
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Don’t they actually hate each other?????
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I don’t know, but I’ve never heard anywhere that they are friends. Or that the Mariners are looking for Japanese DHs this off-season…
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I heard that Ichiro doesn’t like Matsui because he feels that he has higher stature in the Japanese pecking order and that Matsui should bow to him…and Matsui doesn’t choose to bow to Ichiro. If what I’ve heard is true, then it would be a problem for the M’s to have them both on the team.
You don’t need a third catcher, especially in the games in the NL park. I love Cervelli, but he should not be on the roster. Hopefully there is at least one blowout where Bruney can get some experience before coming up in a big situation. This is a decision on the margin.
Guzman sits, Hinske plays.
Rotation:
CC
AJ
Andy
Then play it by ear. I think Girardi will favor using lefties against the Phils as much as possible, meaning at least 5 of 7 games if possible.
Erica
How about Abreu loving the wall all of a sudden?
By the way he’s(Bobby) quoted in bostom.com as saying the “Yankees played good team game,you have to give them credit.”
The rotation for the Series’ is a riddle indeed.
Totally agree with giving Andy the extra start if 1 of the 3 is only going to get 1 start but remember if he started game 2, that would be short rest.
Honestly, the best solution might just be the simplest which is to start Gaudin on sSunday and let them all pitch on reg rest with Pettitte in a possible game 7
You folks have to remember that philly might be starting Joe Blanton in Game 4.. I dont think Phillies will start Lee on short rest..
Even the way Girardi used the pen, he really didn’t dig deep into the pitching staff. There is just no need for 8 guys in the bullpen, it’s absurd.
“I personally think the best way to go is eleven pitchers, with Hinske and Guzman in and Bruney and Cervelli out.”
Yeah I agree, but I have already accepted that Girardi has a fascination with giving Molina starts. I have not yet accepted that Girardi requires 8 pitchers in the pen. I hope I’m right but I’m probably just being too optimistic.
Erica
sorry for the delay, our power went out…darn squirrels
1 Jeter
2 Tex
3 Cano
4 Arod
5 Damon
6 Melky
7 Swish
8 Gardner
9 Hinske
10 Hairston
11 Matsui
12 Posada
13 Molina
14 Cervelli
15 Andy
16 CC
17 AJ
18 Gaudin
19 Mo
20 Hughes
21 Coke
22 Robertson
23 Chamberlain
24 Aceves
25 Marte
thanks
Can’t see how they can avoid having to use Gaudin in game 4. If not, then CC, Burnett and Pettite would all have to pitch on short rest the second time around, barring any rainouts.
-Erica
How about Figgins being kept of the base,and batting .086 in a contract year?
lol. just saw the highlight of Kazmir playing soft-toss with Kenrick. Sorry, couldn’t resist. I know we’re not supposed to revel in the misery of others. But that one was bad.
Erica-I found something else for my shopping list:
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-S.....amp;sr=8-2
jpb1973 October 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Erica – always OPPC October 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Stultus Magnus
October 26th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Man, I forgot about that comment that McCarver made about Matsui. Apparently, Matsui would either stay with the Yanks or go to the Mariners to be with Ichiro, and those were his only options.
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Don’t they actually hate each other?????
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I don’t know, but I’ve never heard anywhere that they are friends. Or that the Mariners are looking for Japanese DHs this off-season…
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I heard that Ichiro doesn’t like Matsui because he feels that he has higher stature in the Japanese pecking order and that Matsui should bow to him…and Matsui doesn’t choose to bow to Ichiro. If what I’ve heard is true, then it would be a problem for the M’s to have them both on the team.
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Sounds like Ichiro.
at the end of the day, no matter which order they are used, the decision is whether to pitch CC 3X and Andy 1X in a 7 game series or pitch them twice each. Andy’s stats with longer rest are so much better than with normal then it is only likely that 3 days rest would be a problem for him. So Gaudin (most likely the #4 starter) is going to potentially get a start in the series at some point.
Of course, if the Yankees win 4 in a row this is a very, very moot point
haiku-man
October 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
How about Abreu loving the wall all of a sudden?
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I honestly could not believe he made that catch. I got all excited thinking the ball was going to drop. LOL
haiku-man
October 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
How about Abreu loving the wall all of a sudden?
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I honestly could not believe he made that catch. I got all excited thinking the ball was going to drop. LOL
Sorry for the double post.
-Erica
My best Tori quote,boston.com,evah!.
“I know they’ve got all those guys locked up for 20 yrs,so it’s going to be a mountain to climb,to trying to get past those guys.”
“Of course, if the Yankees win 4 in a row this is a very, very moot point
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Haha I hope so.
CLIFF LEE HAS NEVER STARTED ON 3 DAYS REST IN HIS CAREER!!!!
I DOUBT THE PHILLIES ARE GOING TO SEE IF HE IS CAPABLE OF IT IN THE WORLD SERIES.
Patrick-
Twice in the postseason Girardi was willing to use every available pitcher, when he had eight relievers.
With the lefties and switch hitters on the Phillies, I think we’ll be seeing more of the LOOGies and more 1 batter appearances than I, and I suspect you, would like to see.
On the other hand, Girardi may also decide that whatever his preferences, Bruney hasn’t had enough work lately to be useful, so the issue would be moot.
I think when the roster is announced it will give us some real insight into how Girardi intends to manage the WS.
Dat’s it
http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON.pdf
I hope Cashman has bought ear plugs for the Yankees,like the ANGELS had on last night,to drown out the fan noise.
“Plus, as much as I am an Andy Pettitte fan, AJ is just as likely to throw a good game as Andy is, it seems to me.”
wave you hat-
this is a really great blog topic for discussion.
there are so many possibilities.
i can totally see your points and could be convinced of them .
on the other hand, girardi has done some surprising things.
this is key i think:
if pettitte starts game three and doesn’t start on short days rest , he gets only one start if sabathia starts three games .
i think the first decision is how many starts that girardi wants from sabthia.
my thinking is sabathia is a throw back horse to the days of gibson.
i think girardi starts him for three starts.
i would.
then who is going to get two starts, either pettitte or burnett, will be the next decision.
i think the game two starter has to be announced to the pitchers once the decision is made on sabathia starting three games.
if the yankees have pettitte and sabathia being lefties facing howard 5 games if it went seven, that has to be a factor too where he doesn’t hit lefties well.
Turning back the clocks gives CC 3 days 1 hour rest for game 4!
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Kennedy
“lol. just saw the highlight of Kazmir playing soft-toss with Kenrick. Sorry, couldn’t resist. I know we’re not supposed to revel in the misery of others. But that one was bad.”
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i watched that several times this morning and smiled every time too.
throwing soft is hard to do in a tight spot because throwing depends on such a fine release point. it’s actually easier to just fire the ball than aim it softly.
not saying kazmir choked, but throwing soft is a good way to induce what looks like choking
Jweav
October 26th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Turning back the clocks gives CC 3 days 1 hour rest for game 4!
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lol..
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Kennedy
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El Duque,
Where are Burnett and Pettitte on that roster?
randy l-
Your points are good too, I can totally see CC getting three starts. He is definitely a horse and Joe could go that way.
I just feel it will go the other way, but I haven’t been that great at predicting what Girardi will do so far this post-season.
1. Jeter
2. Damon
3. Teixeira
4. Rodriguez
5. Posada
6. Matsui
7. Cano
8. Swisher
9. Cabrera
10. Molina
11. Cervelli
12. Hinske
13. Gardner
14. Hairston
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Kennedy
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El Duque,
Where are Burnett and Pettitte on that roster?
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And Sabathia, too?
Here are the Yankees starters stats against Cliff Lee:
Jeter 11-27
Damon 2-22
Teix 9-23 1 HR, 6 RBI
Arod 5-15 2 HR, 6 RBI
Posada 6-21 2 HR, 5 RBI
Matsui 5-17
Cano 4-18
Swisher 6-18
Melky 3-11
Lee pitched well in one game against the Yankees this year but without Arod and Teix was still getting ready for the season (it was April). He lost to them 3-1, in late May, giving up 9 hits and 3 runs in 6 innings. A similar performance against them in game 1 is likely a loss given the way CC has been pitching.
As an infielder it always seemed like the times when you were concentrating the hardest on throwing the ball to a spot were the times you were most likely to make a lousy throw. Best thing is just not to think about it, but that’s easier said than done.
When are the rosters finalized? The Professor over at Pinstriped Bible speculates that Robertson might be hurt — the only possible excuse for Girardi forgetting he was in the bullpen in the first place — and will be replaced.
As for McCarver, bonus stupidity — suggesting the only other team Matsui would play for would be the Mariners, cuz you know, it would give him a chance to play with Ichiro.
Whom he can’t stand, btw. But Tim musta missed the memo.
I would be very surprised if Girardi didn’t have AJ starting game two and Andy game three.
Beyond that, I can see the benefits and pitfalls of the various options, but I feel pretty secure predicting CC-AJ-Andy to start.
Per Sweeny-
AJ told him this week he has no problem going on short rest and did it a few times last year including once last summer against the Yankees and had good outings doing it.
I think Kazmir’s wild throw was the equivalent of a golfer yipping a 2′ putt in the late stages of a match-definitely some choking going on there (and I never accuse anyone of choking randomly).
You can see some amusing Yankees Playoff Posters by Cartoonist Ed Murawinski from the Daily News here:
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....sters.html
featuring:
AJ “Pie Man” Burnett
CC “Ace” Sabathia
The “New A-Rod”
Joe “Come on Down” Girardi
Derek “Hit Man” Jeter
Mariano “The Cutter” Rivera
Nick “the Joker” Swisher
Joba Chamberlain
El Duque. you’re gonna need SP to play any of these games, let alone win ‘em. He, he.
2 Bunts called and caught,and yet the Yankees still got the bases.The quit Dodgers made Pedro feel like he could handle the Yankees.
Pedro’s mouth is writing a check his “bootay”,will have to cash!
new thread
Does anyone know what the wives and girlfriends do while the Yanks are celebrating in the clubhouse with bubblies? My quess is that they kick out the visiting team and use that locker room for their own party.
Eric,
1. Posada
2. Teixeira
3. Cano
4. Jeter
5. Rodriguez
6. Damon
7. Cabrera
8. Swisher
9. Matsui
10. Hinske
11. Molina
12. Gardner
13. Hairston
14. Sabathia
15. Burnett
16. Pettitte
17. Gaudin
18. Rivera
19. Hughes
20. Chamberlain
21. Robertson
22. Coke
23. Marte
24. Aceves
25. Bruney
Keep everything the same besides these two moves: Guzman is off the roster for Hinske. Then I’d bring Ramiro Pena on for Cervelli. Yes you hear me Ramiro Pena. He’d be able to pinch run (takes the roll of guzman) but also can actaully somewhat hit and can defend. Pinch hitters are big in NL ball parks. I find adding Bruney useless because I can’t find a spot I’d ever see him pitch.
Assuming we win #27. Who would be the team of the decade?
a. Yanks(2 championships)
b. Sox(2 championships)
c. Cards(1 chamionship 1 w.s. loss)
d. Phillies(same)
e. other
I think the series will dictate who is going to pitch game 4. If the Yankees are up 3-0 then Gaudin throwing game 4 is not a huge issue. If they are down in the series then you have to bring CC back to be a stopper. Yankees do have to take advantage in these first two games at home though. It was huge being up 2-0 going into LA.
Sos probably the redsox seeing as how they came back to win, how they hadn’t won since 1918, etc.
Dont they need to add another pitcher if they are using 4 starters. Because they are taking Gaudin out of the bullpen.
I would get rid of Guzman and Cervelli for Hinske and Bruney.