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Gaudin getting stretched out, start possible

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Pitching coach Dave Eiland said the Yankees haven’t ruled out the idea of sticking with a three-man rotation in the World Series, a plan that would force all three starters to pitch on short rest. That said, Chad Gaudin is scheduled to throw a 70 to 80 pitch bullpen session this afternoon at Yankee Stadium.

“We’re going to stretch him out today, as best we can,” Eiland said.

The Yankees believe they can get Gaudin stretched out enough to throw 80 or 90 pitches. Eiland wouldn’t definitively say Gaudin would be the fourth starter — or that there would be a fourth starter — but he did say that Joba Chamberlain would only be able to go two or three innings at the most.

Stretching Guadin out today “probably” makes him unavailable in Games 1 and 2, Eiland said.

UPDATE, 2:33 p.m.: The Yankees have announced a rally in Times Square on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m.

UPDATE, 3:30 p.m.: Girardi just said that the Yankees will not announce their rotation beyond Game 3. Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, TBA. Also, no roster announcement today.

UPDATE, 4:35 p.m.: Pedro Martinez said at one point that he wasn’t going to comment specifically on the Yankees, but he did say New York has “as good of a lineup as you’re going to find.”

UPDATE, 4:54 p.m.: Josh here with audio from Joe Girardi and CC Sabathia.

Girardi discusses his pitching plans but gives no definitive order after the first three games. He said it will depend on how strong everyone feels and where the Yankees stand in the series. He later went on to discuss changes in Alex Rodriguez, the challenge of facing Ryan Howard and the possibility of playing Hideki Matsui in the OF. Girardi offered this doozy that is probably buzzing around Japan as you read this: “You know you don’t necessarily have to keep him healthy the next two or three months. You’ve got to keep him healthy for about 10 more days, and it’s something we’ll have to think about.”

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Sabathia talked a great deal about pitching Game 1 and facing his friend from Cleveland, Cliff Lee. The two had dinner together at the Sabathia residence after the home opener this season. He also figures he has the biggest uniform in MLB history. Jimmy Rollins later came up with one Yankee who probably had more pinstripes: Cecil Fielder. Not bad, Jimmy.

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I’ll have a new post in a bit about the Phillies, who swaggered their way into the Great Hall a little while ago.

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264 Responses to “Gaudin getting stretched out, start possible”

  1. Bill from NJ October 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    interesting..

  2. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    This is a good move. Be prepared for all scenarios.

    Pel,

    Thanks for the audio. Listening now. I love how the media was saying that Joe was going with 3 starters. It’s very nice to see that Joe’s not showing his hand so to speak.

  3. TLVP October 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Gaudin will almost certainly not pitch until game 5, only in case bad AJ shows up would he be needed before that

  4. aerofanatic October 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Gotta think CC goes in game 4, with Gaudin going in game 5. The ONLY way Gaudin does not go game 5 is if we are down 3-1.

    Gaudin is a relative unknown to the Philles, other than Ibanez…no other batter has 10 career AB’s vs him. Element of surprise.

    Gaudin backed up by Aceves at the first sign of trouble. This also allows AJ to pitch at the Stadium in game 6 (followed by Petitte if there is trouble) and CC for a Game 7.

    Gotta think that’s how this plays out.

  5. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Gaudin had what, a 4 ERA in the NL this year? He can do it.

    By the way, I can’t believe Manuel thinks Pedro can pitch multiple games against the Yankees in this series.

    My prediction, Pedro loses games 2 and 6th to loud outrageous chants of Who’s Your Daddy :)

  6. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    29 hours and 40 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!

  7. Pel October 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    >Pel,
    >
    >Thanks for the audio. Listening now.

    ;)

  8. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release October 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Hhhhmmmm
    Interesting

  9. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Jimmy Rollins bragging on Leno last night that the Phillies will win in 5.

    He can eat it

  10. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Just hope games one and two don’t go into extras, then. And I kinda can almost guarantee Game 2 will. For s—- and giggles.

  11. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Aha!

    That is why Girardi hinted to bringing another pitcher.

    Gaudin is going game 5. “Unavailable” for games 1-2 says Eiland. Bruney in for Gaudin in the pen.

    Looks like Cervelli will be the odd man out. That’s a gamble if Molina catches AJ.

  12. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    WOWEE!

    Well I said I’d like to see Gaudin get a start rather than fool around with pitching everyone on short rest. I think it’s a better risk than having the rotation on short rest. One game as opposed to many.

    SJ, you also guaranteed us that Gaudin wouldn’t even make it to the postseason roster. I don’t find your prognostications to be rock solid.

    I think you’re wet on AJ and Molina too.

    “Molina has had just as much trouble digging balls out of the dirt in the post-season than Posada did during the regular season.”

    That’s pure crazy.

    “The sitting is an excuse. His pitch count was low enough entering the 7th inning to go out and get the job done.”

    Only in your stubborn mind. MANY pitchers who have been forced to sit long periods of time have come out rusty in the next inning. You just don’t want to even look at the possibility that Molina is the best option to catch AJ at this point, no matter what the reason may be.

    I will repeat a line from an email I received on Sunday, the day the Yankees clinched:

    Blessed are the flexible. They don’t get bent out of shape.

    And before the question is asked, I have already said that if Posada was the catcher of choice for AJ in the world series, I would go with it totally because I know Girardi knows what he’s doing and therefore would have seen it as giving us the greatest chance to win.

  13. vin October 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I’d prefer to see the 3 man rotation, but Joe would obviously have a better understanding of whether or not Andy can pitch on 3 days rest.

    If Gaudin goes in game 5 (the only logical choice), then Andy is able to back up AJ or CC if either should need it.

    My biggest fear is that Gaudin’s strength is against rhb, not lefties.

  14. aerofanatic October 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Just to piggyback on my post….Gaudin has to be careful, cause Ibanez seems to own him :)

    PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO **BA** OBP SLG OPS

    Raul Ibanez 22 18 7 2 1 1 8 3 5 .389 .455 .778 1.233

  15. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    mick,

    Did you see my correction? I said I wasn’t surprised that Girardi’s thinking of going with 2 catchers.

    The likelihood of needing a third catcher due to injury within a game is slim. And if you do, Jerry Hairy is the emergency catcher. They’ve probably tested him and feel comfortable with his comfort level back there. If it’s a catastrophic injury, then Cervelli would be activated the next game. You can bet he’ll travel with the team.

  16. John in Ohio October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Did Ramiro Mendoza make the roster?

    Hal Reniff?

  17. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Trisha

    How the heck can he carry 2 catchers if Molina catches AJ?

    Unless he does it for just game 2 and Po catches him in 6.

  18. vb03 October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Rollins has always had a big mouth. Not surprised.

  19. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    this is a mistake…

  20. jockomac October 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    In almost all scenarios, Andy Pettite is only going to start game 3.

  21. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    vin

    the 3 man rotation is a panic move.

    it sends philly the message we are scared.

    i would actually prefer Lt. Go Dan over AJ down 3-1 in Philly.

    Call me crazy.

  22. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    And people thought it was a mistake to not start CC in Game 6 against the Angels. (in fact, where are all the “2004!” bridgejumpers?)

    The Phillies are throwing Blanton/Happ at us, too. It’s not just a one-way street.

  23. aerofanatic October 27th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    jockomac-

    Unless the rain gods come out, and give us an extra off day. PREFERABLY raining out game 5, moving it a day ahead then AJ, Andy and CC can all go on normal rest in 5,6,7…

  24. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    DB, I just go to “edit” and then “find on this page”.

    mick, do we know Cervelli isn’t going to be on the roster? I would think he would carry the three just in case.

  25. jockomac October 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    I think the Burnett/Molina tandem will be broken up. Especially after that 1st inning in game 5.

  26. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    I would feel comfortable having Andy pitch a possible Game 7.

  27. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Boston bench coach Brad Mills has just been hired as the new manager of the Houston Astros

  28. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    If Molina catches AJ, Cervelli’s on the roster. That’s just the way it is, Girardi will PH Posada for Molina early on and Girardi doesn’t want to be without a back-up catcher in a playoff game. Cervelli is in.

    Hinske would be very valuable in the Series, as a PH, because the Phils have only one good lefty reliever (assuming Happ starts).

    However, if Girardi goes with 4 starters, which I think he will, he won’t be comfortable with only 7 relievers. Not after all the extra inning games the Yanks have had, not after you consider all the lefty hitters and switch hitters the Phils have, which will mean a lot of one and two batter appearances by Yank relievers. Girardi will want 8 relievers.

    That means Bruney will get the nod over Hinske, and Guzman won’t make the roster.

    It’s Cervelli and Bruney.

  29. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    trisha

    it looks like if gaudin goes game 5, then they will need another reliever, which Joe hinted at and Eiland said gaudin is unavailable for games 1-2.

    this would leave it down to cervelli vs hinske and hinske should get the nod.

  30. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    game 1 = CC

    game 2 = Burnett

    game 3 = Pettitte

    game 4 = CC

    game 5 = Gaudin

    game 6 = Pettitte/Burnett (start Pettitte if we gain a rain day)

    game 7 = CC

  31. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    “I think the Burnett/Molina tandem will be broken up. Especially after that 1st inning in game 5.”

    I think we read in the last thread that Girardi said he was leaning toward going with Molina.

    If that is the case, Girardi may be thinking that it was the combination of AJ catching on the road, along with first-inning nerves. Clemens got those all the time, and he was a multiple Cy Young winner.

    I am thinking that he doesn’t want to start playing around at this point and it seems that AJ and Molina had been working out very well.

    Just my opinion.

  32. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    WYH

    Girardi hinted on WFAN he doesn’t have to carry 3 catchers.

  33. aerofanatic October 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Wave Your Hat-

    If Gaudin pitches game 5, that means AJ would be pitching games 2 and 6…both in Yankee Stadium. We would not need Cervelli if we PH for Molina, as it’s a straight up switch.

    NOW, if we then need a PR for Posada…Hairston is the emergency catcher. I think a pinch hitter (Hinske) is more important than a 3rd catcher (Cervelli). I also think Guzman is out and Bruney is on.

  34. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    If I were the manager, I’d go CC/AJ/Andy/GoDan/CC/AJ/Andy.

    2nd choice would be whatever lines up CC for games 1 & 7.

  35. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    vinny b -

    beautiful outline. I buy every bit of it.

  36. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    I like vinny B’s suggestion for rain between games 5 & 6.

    Then you can throw Andy , game 6.

    Beautiful!

  37. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    I would go

    CC
    AJ
    AP
    CC
    AJ
    AP
    CC

    I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again, if our starters don’t have the guts to go on 3 days rest in the world series, then what good are they?

  38. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Jerkface,

    It’s not a matter of guts. It’s a matter if their bodies will cooperate.

  39. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Trisha,

    Honestly, what games have you been watching?

    AJ threw a WP, a pitch Molina couldn’t handle, in his start against the Twins.

    Molina had trouble with his pitches in the dirt that entire start. He spent that start on the mound as much as he did behind the plate.

    AJ blew a 2 run lead with another WP, on a pitch no where close to the plate, to Guerrero (leaving some to wonder why Molina would call for such a pitch in a bases loaded situation), giving up the tying run.

    He fell apart in the first inning and couldn’t hold a 2 run lead in the 7th in Game 6. He gave up 6 runs in 6+ innings. That’s not a good start.

    The “excuse” is his sitting? Come on, do you think its the first time AJ Burnett has had to sit for a long Yankee, run scoring inning?

    That’s a very lame excuse for his performance.

    Really, watch the games. Molina catching him has offered no significant change in AJ’s performance. At least not in this post-season since his starts have been progressively worse.

    Gaudin wasn’t on the roster for the first two series was he?

    He is now for one pretty big reason you seem to forget.

    The complete ineffectiveness of Joba Chamberlain as a starting pitcher.

    If Joba was more effective as a starter, Gaudin wouldn’t be needed on the roster. However, he is now.

    Personally, I’d rather give Gaudin a start than having 3 starters pitch on short rest in the WS.

    However, let’s not sugarcoat why Chad Gaudin is starting a WS game. Its more because of Joba’s ineffectiveness than it is Gaudin ability as a starting pitcher.

    As far as the catching debate? Its pretty tough to argue AJ is “comfortable” since his starts are progressively worse.

    You put your best lineup you can out there everyday in a World Series.

    If not, you compromise your chances of winning.

  40. Rishi October 27th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    JackCurry1 Access Hollywood reporter told Pettitte he’d been voted top 5 hottest Yankee. His reax? Blushed and said, “Well, I got a lot of gray hair.”
    4 minutes ago from web

  41. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    what does guts have to do with throwing a baseball?

    why mess with their routines, it’s a panic move.

  42. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    the 3 man rotation is a panic move.

    it sends philly the message we are scared.

    i would actually prefer Lt. Go Dan over AJ down 3-1 in Philly.

    Call me crazy.
    ______________________

    don’t mind if i do…YOU’RE CRAZY!

    its not a panic move at all…its common sense. Gaudin hasn’t started a game in over a month. and you want his first postseason start to come in the Philly in game 5 of the world series???

    i mean come on now.

    no disrespect to gaudin…but lets be real. He hasn’t started a game in over a MONTH…you can not poo poo that. In some of Gaudin’s best games he was 4 innings and then in the 5th he was done. Lost all command. Lets not get crazy here and think Gaudin is going to go out and throw 7 innings of 1 run ball.

  43. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    I think Hinske will be added. The Yankees definitely need a PH.
    It seems like AJ pitches better at home in big game situations, no matter who catches him, so maybe Gaudin is a better option on the road. Girardi is smart not to commit to anything yet.

  44. gary busey's face October 27th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    honestly, why debate w/ trisha about molina? she’s just some loser who dominates a blog with her incessant rambling about whatever is going on in her life. she has little baseball acument, and an outsized ego that makes her believe we all care what she thinks.

    we don’t.

  45. Bill from NJ October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “game 6 = Pettitte/Burnett (start Pettitte if we gain a rain day)”

    I think you go with the guy who pitched better the game before. If AJ dominates Game 2, he should get the start for game 6, and vice versa for Andy.

  46. vin October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    “i would actually prefer Lt. Go Dan over AJ down 3-1 in Philly.

    Call me crazy.

    I’m too polite to call you “crazy.” But you might be nuts. :)

    AJ is a major wild card… but I’d still prefer to see him over a guy that hasn’t started in about a month (only throwing 2.1 innings in that span).

  47. jockomac October 27th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    I think starting Molina in game 2 would be a mistake.

    We are playing the Phillies. A team with a very American League type lineup and a Martinez/Burnett game could turn into a slugfest where we need to outscore them.

    As brutal as Posada was in game 6, I would still rather have him hitting in an important spot than Molina.

  48. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    “Gaudin wasn’t on the roster for the first two series was he?”
    SJ-
    Huh?

  49. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    You know what a panic move is?

    Announcing that Cliff Lee will be starting game 1..4..and 7 when he has never started on 3 days rest in his life.

    Thats a panic move.

  50. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Gaudin pitched in our blowout win in Anaheim and was the last man standing in both extra inning affairs

  51. champ809 October 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Wave

    while your thoughts are well reasoned you are wrong….

    Hinske is a lock to be added for his bat as a PH especially in the games in the NL park plus also if Swish stays frozen then Girardi has the option of sitting him and giving Hinske a shot to do damage.

    Bruney i think also makes it as an extra power arm out of the pen could be vital if Phranchise and Joba don’t come out hot in this series. I think a “ticked off” Bruney has a chance to maybe make his whole season here in this next week. If he gets added and throws 3-4 innings of lights-out ball like he was at the start of the season then all is forgiven with him. Could be a great motivator for him imo.

  52. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Free Mike

    If I’m crazy then so is Girardi because tha’s he and Eiland are hinting at.

  53. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    that’s what

  54. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    trisha: thank you. Hope everythin well

  55. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Free Mike Vick, your “Gaudin hasn’t started in a month” argument can work against you…he’s started since the last time either AJ or Pettitte have pitched on short rest…Gaudin pitched well enough to hang on the roster and certainly pitched better than Joba who’s been tapped in high pressure situations this post season…I think throwing Gaudin out there is less risky than the uncertainty that would go along with pitching 2 guys on short rest who have not historically faired well doing so. risk 1 game, not 2…

  56. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    “Jimmy Rollins bragging on Leno last night that the Phillies will win in 5.”

    When we played the Mets in 2000…Benny Agbayani predicted to Regis that the Mets would win in 5…how did that work out? :o)

    I’m so excited for the Series to start ..I’m going to the big rally in Times Square tomorrow. Go CC…Go Yankees !!!!

  57. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    “Gaudin wasn’t on the roster for the first two series was ”
    he?”

    Uh what? Speaking of not watching games, he was on BOTH.

    If you can’t accept the fact the AJ may have had a case of nerves pitching in his first postseason, and that his road record is worse than his home record, then I can’t help you. Let me put it to you this way. With Posada behind the plate it may have been 12 runs and not 6.

    Girardi got the Yankees to 103 games and he got them to the world series. And he did it with a host of moves that you said were plum wrong or would never happen. So I have to continue to put my money on Girardi.

  58. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    He can announce Lee is going 3x but there won’t be a game 7.

  59. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    mick,

    what can you honestly expect Gaudin to give you?

    (keeping in mind he hasn’t started a game in more then a month and this will be his first ever postseason start)

  60. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    free mike

    throwing burnett on the road on 3 days rest down 3-1…..now that’s CRAZY

  61. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    champ809-

    Well we agree on Bruney.

    As to Hinske, if it were my call, I’d go with Hinske over Cervelli and Guzman because of the PH opportunities he will have.

    But if Girardi goes with Molina to catch AJ, while he may consider taking Hinske over Cervelli, at the end of the day IMO Girardi will be more scared of having to use Hairston than he will be of not having the extra PH (he will have Matsui as a PH in the NL parks).

    So I think he goes with Cervelli.

    Not what I’d do, but what I think Joe will do.

  62. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    “trisha: thank you. Hope everythin well”

    Everything is great and getting better all the time. Thanks!

    “honestly, why debate w/ trisha about molina? she’s just some loser who dominates a blog with her incessant rambling about whatever is going on in her life. she has little baseball acument, and an outsized ego that makes her believe we all care what she thinks.

    we don’t.”

    Come on now, don’t hold back. Let us know what you REALLY think!

    :D

  63. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    “Gaudin wasn’t on the roster for the first two series was ”
    he?”
    Trisha–
    You got him there.

  64. Ninja Burglar October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Our “best lineup” in an NL park would include Hideki Matsui over Nick Swisher, which is why I think it’s possible we could see him in the OF at some point in one of the NL games regardless of how much he’s actually played there this season. I see reasons for and against it. All I’m saying is, it could happen.

  65. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    And the word you were looking for was “acumen”.

    No need to thank me.

    :)

  66. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I think throwing Gaudin out there is less risky than the uncertainty that would go along with pitching 2 guys on short rest who have not historically faired well doing so.
    ______________________

    andy is a big boy..he can handle going on 3 days rest in his last start of the season.

    and AJ pitched on 3 days rest 3 times last season…pitching to a 1.86 ERA. i would say that is “fairing well”

  67. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    WYH

    Why do you ignore the fact that Girardi said he might take the extra pitcher and pinchhitter?

  68. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Anyone who didn’t hear Giradi with Mike should listen to it via the link that Pel was kind enough to provide in the last thread. It’s quite enlightening.

  69. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    free mike

    that is why you aren’t yankee mgr.

    are you saying you would throw AJ in Philly, on 3 days, down 3-1?

    Please answer.

  70. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I think Girardi goes with defense + potential hitting over bad defense + poor hitting.

    Matsui hasn’t been doing great outside of a few nice hits. He could always get hot but I don’t see him running around in the outfield.

    He will get his up to 4 games at DH, the other 3 he will have to pinch hit.

  71. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    thank you , m.

  72. sar515 October 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I don’t have the answers…
    But I must say that The New York Yankees should NOT be staring Chad Gaudin in a World Series game. I am fairly sure that is NOT what they were thinking when they acquired him.

  73. sar515 October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    or starting

  74. vin October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    My logic behind going with AJ and Andy on short rest:

    AJ has had success doing it before (most notably last year against the Yanks).

    I’d rather have Andy pitch 5 innings on short rest, than have Gaudin start. I wouldn’t expect Andy to be able to go more than that, but I’m not really confident that Gaudin could even make it to the 5th against the lefty-heavy Phils in their bandbox.

  75. Warning Track Power October 27th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    C’mon people! If you think that Matsui is going to play the OF in The World Series, please stop the insanity.
    That won’t happen.
    He has not played defense for 1 inning all year. Suddenly he will be called upon to play the outfield. I don’t think so!!

  76. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    mick-

    I’m not ignoring it. It’s an argument for Hinke. But Girardi just said he was considering it, not promising to do it.

    IF Girardi decides to go with Molina catching AJ, then like I said I think he’ll go with Cervelli. But maybe Girardi hasn’t completely made up his mind on Molina, maybe because he’d like Hinske on the bench, so maybe he’ll decide to let Posada catch AJ and not take Cervelli.

    We’re all just guessing here. We’ll see.

  77. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    vin

    andy in game 5 on 1 day rest?

  78. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Hey, the good news is that they’re not stretching out Joba. :ba da bump!:

  79. vin October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    “C’mon people! If you think that Matsui is going to play the OF in The World Series, please stop the insanity.”

    It’s not “people,” it’s “person.”

  80. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    If you won 2 tickets to sit next to Mike Francesa at game 1 tommorrow (the contest he is running), what would you say to him?

  81. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    that is why you aren’t yankee mgr.

    are you saying you would throw AJ in Philly, on 3 days, down 3-1?

    Please answer.
    _________________________

    heck yes i would. It would be a cold day in he** before i would let chad guadin pitch that game.

    also…i found one of AJ’s games on 3 days rest last year. Enjoy:
    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....id=3129784

  82. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Yanks need to keep Raul Ibanez quiet, and limit the Flyin Hawaian factor….Yanks are very familiar with the Phillies starters ( except Cole )……There was no way the Bombers were going with a 3 man rotation, unless they fall behind 1-2 then CC could be called back rather than Gaudin…..

  83. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Swish has really improved his defense, he made some great plays during the play offs. There is no way Girardi is sitting him, certainly not for Matsui.

  84. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Maybe Joe thinks we will be up 3-1 by game 5. Must give Gaudin a lot of confidence for game 5. He might pitch a gem.

  85. m October 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Christina,

    I would tell him that the Diet Coke isn’t working. And that the Red Sox ain’t all that.

  86. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    There was no way the Bombers were going with a 3 man rotation, unless they fall behind 1-2 then CC could be called back rather than Gaudin…..

    CC is in game 4 regardless of the situation.

  87. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    also…i found one of AJ’s games on 3 days rest last year. Enjoy:
    ————————————————

    was it game 5, world series?

  88. m October 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Pat M,

    Just curious. How did Ibanez do against us when he was in the AL? I don’t remember him being a Yankee killer.

  89. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    # Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    If you won 2 tickets to sit next to Mike Francesa at game 1 tommorrow (the contest he is running), what would you say to him?
    ————————————————
    “Mike, would you mind if I changed my seat?”

  90. vin October 27th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    “vin

    andy in game 5 on 1 day rest?

    Obviously not, I was weighing the two scenarios.

    1) Gaudin – game 5, AJ – game 6
    or
    2) AJ – game 5 (3 days rest), Andy – game 6 (3 days rest).

  91. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Anybody here seen Zombieland?

  92. jockomac October 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    There is no way Matsui plays an inning in the outfield and I still think Posada catches Burnett in game 2. Cervelli will be left off the roster and Hinske will be added.

  93. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “Mike, would you mind if I changed my seat?”

    Love that ..lol.

    Go Yankees 2009 !!!

  94. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    mick,

    i’m at the point now where i think you are just joking around. Please tell me i’m right.

    because if you think Chad Gaudin in game 5 of the 2009 world series in philly is a better option then AJ Burnett. then i would say you need a CAT scan…fairly quickly.

  95. crawdaddy October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    What happened in the past has no bearing on what’s going to take place over the next nine days. Rollins talking smack has no bearing on whether CC, AJ and Pettitte throw effectively against the Phillies.

  96. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    “andy is a big boy..he can handle going on 3 days rest in his last start of the season.

    and AJ pitched on 3 days rest 3 times last season…pitching to a 1.86 ERA. i would say that is “fairing well””

    According to baseball reference, Pettitte has pitched 14 games on 3 days rest going 4-6 with an ERA of 4.15 and opponents batting average of .266

    You were right on Burnett though…for his career he is 4-0 with an ERA of 2.33 on short rest in 4 attempts…much better than I had expected.

  97. Erin October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    mick
    October 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    Anybody here seen Zombieland?

    **************
    I have not, but I’ve been told by several people it’s very good. Sorry, that wasn’t much help was it? :)

  98. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    “Our “best lineup” in an NL park would include Hideki Matsui over Nick Swisher, which is why I think it’s possible we could see him in the OF at some point in one of the NL games regardless of how much he’s actually played there this season. I see reasons for and against it. All I’m saying is, it could happen.”

    No chance. My grandmother could run down a flyball better than Matsui at this point in his career.

  99. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    erin.

    thanks. better than saying it was very bad:)

  100. Doreen October 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Let the Torii Hunters and Jimmy Rollins of the baseball world flap their gums. I’m just glad you never catch a Yankee saying things like Rollins did. I have never hear a Yankee make such a brash prediction, and they always are respectful of their opponents. That’s something I like about them. In the long run, you set yourself up when you run off your mouth.

  101. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    the phillies have arrived by train….even pedro?

  102. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    “If you won 2 tickets to sit next to Mike Francesa at game 1 tommorrow (the contest he is running), what would you say to him?”
    ————————————————————

    Thank You?

    Does anybody in here other than me find it bizarre that here we are waiting for the Series to start and the Yankees sort of don’t have a 4th starter?

    I’m not complaining, just pondering.

  103. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    BX

    Count on Lt. GO Dan. He can do it.

  104. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    28 hours and 47 minutes until Game 1!!!!

  105. qwerty21 October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Yanks add Hinske, drop Guzman…per Sherman.

  106. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Zombieland was excellent, funny, dark, very gory. Its not a zombie survival horror flick though.

  107. champ809 October 27th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    listen guys we all need to except the fact that you stand a much better chance of having a dominant AJ with Molina catching him than with Posada catching him!

    it is what it is!

    We stand a much much better chance of winning the games that Burnett starts with the “dominant AJ” on the mound than the “headcase AJ”(obviously)

    and we stand a very good chance to win this series if we can win the game that AJ starts as i feel very confident that both CC and Pett in their respective starts will be great and the game won’t get away from them. With them being lefties that can dominate lefty hitters the starts our righties throw take on even more meaning as far as winning this series.

    also seems to me that everybody’s forgotton that in ’96 Torre had the same situation with Leyritz who was Pett’s personal catcher and joe benched Girardi who was the starter although by doing so he actually put a stronger offensive team on the field but he valued the pitcher/catcher relationship over all.

  108. CK in LA October 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    I know I’m late to the party here, but I’d rather see Andy start on short rest Game 2 and regular rest Game 6. Gaudin could be ready for long relief for 2 if Andy doesn’t have it.

    AJ worries me for two starts.

  109. rconn23 October 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    “With Posada behind the plate it may have been 12 runs and not 6.”

    How could that possibly be?

    Because Posada would have called one pitch Burnett couldn’t locate instead of the other pitch he couldn’t locate?

    I’ve honestly never seen a pitcher bailed out with excuses like Burnett.

    He’s essentially been the same pitcher every where he’s been – Florida, Toronto and New York. Injuy prone and erratic.

    Only difference this year is the injury bug didn’t hit him.

    He misses his spots constantly. His fastball is 94-96 but very flat with little movement.

    He’s the same guy he’s been his entire career. There was no Jorge Posada to blame in Florida and Toronto.

  110. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    The Wang Factor…..

  111. Andy October 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Burnett’s fastball is not flat, the problem is that it moves too much. Look at him aim for the outside corner and thing just darts inside. Killer movement.

  112. Laura - Bring on PHI! October 27th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    “UPDATE, 2:33 p.m.: The Yankees have announced a rally in Times Square on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m.”

    Why the hell are they having a rally? We don’t need a rally. The Cubs had a rally last year. Rallies are for desperate teams; not the New York Yankees.

  113. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    He misses his spots constantly. His fastball is 94-96 but very flat with little movement.

    Are you serious? Have you even watched AJ Burnett pitch? His fastball has SERIOUS movement. He has been rated the pitcher with the most movement of all his pitches overall in the MAJORS. There are 3 kinds of AJ Burnett

    AJ 1 – All his pitches are moving, will give up a lot of walks but few hits and more than likely few runs. Fastball 95-96 with huge tail away from lefties in to righties.

    AJ 2 – The perfect AJ, all of his pitches are moving and he knows where its going. No hits, no walks, beast mode.

    AJ 3 – Fastball command or curve command is off, fastball won’t have much movement, will give up a lot of hits.

    AJ giving up hits is a sign that its bad AJ. Walks aren’t.

  114. Phil October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    rallies and opening up the stadium during road games are all about brand building.

  115. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    If you won 2 tickets to sit next to Mike Francesa at game 1 tommorrow (the contest he is running), what would you say to him?”
    ————————————————————
    I would say “Easy Mike save some hot dogs for the rest of the fans!!!”

  116. Laura - Bring on PHI! October 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    I will risk the wrath of many here by speaking about AJ. I cannot believe that people are still talking about the Molina/Posada debate. AJ stunk in the first inning last week with Molina pitching. Molina was taken out fairly early and AJ pitched to Posada. He pitched several shutout innings. He sat on the bench too long (or so some have tried to tell me) and came out and stunk again for two batters with Posada. What does that tell you? That tells me that AJ can pitch to any catcher. He is either going to be great or he’s going to stink up the joint regardless of who is behind the dish. That apparently is his makeup. How people can’t see this is beyond me.

  117. disco stu October 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Girardi said on Francesa’s show this afternoon that he may be inclined to see how the first couple of games play out before he commits to who get the starts beginning with Game 4 and beyond.

    I actually think that is a good idea … no need to pigeon-hole yourself into a concrete pitching schedule. Keep all options open and make decisions when necessary.

  118. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    jerkface

    thanks for the review…going to see it now.

  119. Laura - Bring on PHI! October 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “rallies and opening up the stadium during road games are all about brand building.”

    Brand building? I wasn’t aware that the most successful sports franchise in the world needed to build up the brand. I’m all for opening up the stadium during road games; that was way cool. However, rallies smell of desperation. I’m glad I won’t be in NYC to witness it.

  120. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “How could that possibly be?

    Because Posada would have called one pitch Burnett couldn’t locate instead of the other pitch he couldn’t locate?”

    No it could have worked that way if Posada was catching him and couldn’t calm him down after the first inning.

    rconn, he finished off the season with Molina and did so in style, and has had Molina catching his postseason games. He’s not a great road pitcher. Oh well. If you can’t get over the fact that you were against it from day one, that’s on you.

    mel, the Girardi listen was very interesting. Thanks pel for that audio. I would seem that at this point they are seriously considering going without Cervelli. But I guess that could change since they are still evaluating. It would also seem pretty much a foregone conclusion that Molina will catch AJ at least at home.

  121. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    After giving up a hit to Jeff Mathis, on a pitch that wasn’t bad at all when Jeff Mathis was basically dominating our pitching all series, AJ was 0-2 on Aybar and let the AB get away from him.

    Give some credit to Aybar, he didn’t offer at many of the pitches out of the zone that many would strike out on. Sometimes its about the hitter more than the pitcher or catcher.

    I would have liked him to pound the zone with his fastball over and over again to Aybar, but AJ’s not a guy that will ever consistently hit the zone, so what ya gonna do?

  122. iiicollies October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Too bad it will be too involved to set up a phone conference session for tomorrow’s game …OR..

    Do you think we can request that Lohud put one together, just like the Live Chat?

  123. Andy October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    The whole issue with Molina is moot. If Burnett mentally feels better with him, let him do it. Molina gets at most 2 AB’s before Jorge pinch hits. If we can’t overcome 2 AB’s from Molina we don’t deserve to win the game.

  124. BD October 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    “According to baseball reference, Pettitte has pitched 14 games on 3 days rest going 4-6 with an ERA of 4.15 and opponents batting average of .266″

    SSS and all, but a 4.15 ERA is much better than we can realistically expect from Chad Gaudin, who has a 4.50 career ERA. I say stick with the 3-man rotation. You still have Gaudin in reserve if AJ or Andy falters in their second starts.

  125. NYY626 October 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    If I worked closer to midtown I’d go to the rally on my lunch break, but by the time I got there I’d have to head back to the office. My friend works in times sqaure though and I made her promise to take pictures.

  126. mick October 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    some moron just asked cc if he thought he had more pinstripes on his uni than any other yankee

  127. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    “CC, have you ever counted the number of pinstripes on your jersey?”… For real? I wonder CC’s answer was to that question

  128. Doreen October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Maybe a rally is just plain fun? You know? Even New Yorkers are known to like a little fun sometimes.

    I think it’s a fine idea. Gives people outside the confines of the Stadium to share their excitement with one another in a public way.

  129. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    “Brand building? I wasn’t aware that the most successful sports franchise in the world needed to build up the brand. I’m all for opening up the stadium during road games; that was way cool. However, rallies smell of desperation. I’m glad I won’t be in NYC to witness it.”

    Since when is giving fans who can’t make it to the game a chance to support and cheer for their team in a large public gathering a bad thing?

    It’s good for the city and good for the Yankees. Let’s have a rally.

  130. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    If im Joe I wait and see how Games 1 2 and 3 turn out before I name a game 4 starter. Anything can happen from now until game 4 and at that point he will have a better idea of how the series will play out.

  131. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    “That tells me that AJ can pitch to any catcher. He is either going to be great or he’s going to stink up the joint regardless of who is behind the dish. That apparently is his makeup. How people can’t see this is beyond me.”

    No wrath at all Laura. So then maybe what you need to look at is which catcher was more succesful in limiting the runs, hits, and homers he gave up, and in helping him with more strike outs. That would be Molina. Whether it’s pitch selection, throws in the dirt, or just plain comfort really doesn’t matter at this point.

  132. Zach in Port Jeff October 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    I just walked outside to get some coffee.

    The Phillie fans are here.

    At least in midtown they are.

    Maybe they are just Met fans in disguise???

  133. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    For all the talk about the question marks in the Yankees starting pitching, the Phillies are sending out a 72 year old Pedro Martinez in Game 2 because they’re afraid Cole Hamels feelings will get hurt by a tough Yankee Stadium crowd.

  134. Uncle Tito October 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Why would you add Bruney? He was horrible all year long.

    Plus, who would you pitch him in front of? They hardly pitched Robertson, Ace, Coke. or Gaudin in the last round.

    We have plenty of pitching if Joe stops wasteing pitchers for just one batter.

    You HAVE to add Hinske. Why?:
    1) you are going to need a PH in the NL park.
    2) he can replace Swisher in RF if Nick stays cold.
    3) he can replace Matsui as DH if he doesn’t start hitting.
    4) you have NO power off the bench without him.

  135. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    I bet that was someone from Leno or Lettermans show.

  136. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Catch y’all later. Whatever works for Girardi works for me.

  137. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    am i the only one who doesn’t think Hughes has pitched that bad?

    even in the loss vs the Angels his pitches had ++ movement.

    Hughes in 7th-8th inning + Rivera in 9th inning provided NYY the AL East Division

  138. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    The Yanks aren’t going to pitch Andy or AJ on 3 days rest, barring some crisis like being down 3-1 when the 4th starter is scheduled to pitch. IMO there’s little point talking about 3 starters being a better strategy in principle, the Yanks won’t do it.

    I don’t know if anyone’s looked out the window, but it’s raining. And the weather reports for tomorrow night seem to be getting worse.

    If there’s rain tomorrow, the Yankees use 4 starters for sure, and CC can’t have 3 starts. So that’s something to watch.

    And it occurs to me that if the Yanks take Hinske and leave Cervelli off the roster, Girardi might be very reluctant to pinch hit Posada for Molina. Which would remove some of the point of taking Hinske to begin with.

    A lot of problems come out of pairing AJ and Molina. If Girardi insists on it anyway, he must believe strongly in AJ and Molina. I don’t like it, but if Girardi believes in it that strongly you can’t dismiss the possibility Joe knows something we don’t.

  139. m October 27th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    These Yankees (the organization) are trying to be much more fan friendly than those of the past. It’s been a long time since we’ve, er, they’ve gone to the world series. Give them a break. This is all “new” to them. haha.

  140. MG October 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    those of you who think Andy is going to pitch on 3 days rest just don’t have a clue.

    He hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest since returning to the Yankees in 2007.

    Pitchers are ‘critters of habit’. They depend on the time in between starts to get ready for the next one. The FACT that he pitches signficantly better on 5 days rest (ERA is a full run lower) just shows he gets stronger with extra days.

    Earlier in his career he had more velocity so was able to make those 14 starts on 3 days rest. He’s 37 years old and it makes no sense.

    CC will probably start game 4 but, in all honesty, if the Yankees win both games at Yankee Stadium they would be much better off pitching Gaudin in game 4 knowing the worst they could be is tied going to game 5 and have their 3 top starters finishing the series on normal rest. Either way, though, a game 7 would have either Andy or CC starting with the other available in the bullpen anyway.

  141. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Cole Hamels already pitched in YS this year,and did just fine.

  142. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    LAURA
    Dont be so down on the rally. I know it sounds corny and desperate but it should be a pretty fun time. Remember nobody knows how to party like New York City! It will be good for the city and put EVERYONE in a Yankee state of mind. If anything look at it as crowd control practice for the NYPD. They are going to need it when the 2009 World Series Champions NEW YORK YANKEES parade down the Canyon of Heroes!!!
    PS I noticed during the ALDS the Empire State Building was navy blue and white but it wasnt so during the ALCS. Hopefully its blue and white for the WS!

  143. MG October 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Hamels already pitched at Yankee Stadium this year and did a good job, I’m not quite sure I understand Manuel’s thinking since, if the series goes to a game 7 Hamel would be the pitcher anyway. It just indicates to me that he think Pedro has a better chance to beat the Yankees right now.

  144. Erin October 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Posada on facing Pedro:

    “Hopefully, we get to him like we did with the Red Sox.”

    LOL :D

    http://zozone.mlblogs.com/arch.....daddy.html

  145. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Cole Hamels already pitched in YS this year,and did just fine.

    Before the Yankees were hitting on all cylinders :)

  146. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Hinske is on the post-season roster for Guzman.

    There is no evidence, none, that Jorge Posada would cause AJ Burnett to give up more runs than Jose Molina would.

    Wonderful fan emotion. None of it rooted in fact.

    If that was the case, Girardi would never PH Molina and keep him with AJ at all times.

    Funny how folks forget the best game AJ pitched all year was against the Red Sox.

    AJ is a guy who has been tough to catch his entire career.

    Jose Molina is not his muse.

    We heard the same nonsense re: CC and Posada during the season.

    How has that worked out this post-season?

  147. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    I’ve been to the past rallies and they are fun …the fans getting together to support their guys. Why anyone thinks it is a desperation thing is beyond me.

    I’ll be there as always showing my support for the Yanks…

    Go Yankees 2009 !!!

  148. The Ghost October 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Anyone walking around today in an uncommonly good mood? Rainy days usually put me in a bad mood but not today. This is as close as it gets to being a kid on Christmas Eve as an adult. I totally forgot how happy it made me when the Yankees were in the World Series. I got so used to it in the 90′s I think I took it for granted.

  149. rconn23 October 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    “Oh well. If you can’t get over the fact that you were against it from day one, that’s on you.”

    I’m still against it.

    The only difference is unlike you, I don’t openly root against players on the Yankees, like you do with Posada. It’s clear you hate the guy.

    I have no problem with Molina at all. A fine defensive backup. He just can’t hit, at all. He was the third worst hitter in the American League this year.

    Putting up a lineup against Philly – a markedly better team than either Anaheim or Minnesota – that includes Molina, the pitcher and a struggling Nick Swisher in the lineup diminishes the Yankees offense greatly.

    Burnett has had some of his best starts with Posada behind the dish, a fact you constantly overlook. Actually, you probably just ignore it.

    Ten years from now, Jorge Posada is a guy who will as a potential Hall of Fame candidate and will be remembered as an all-time Yankee great.

    Burnett will be just a memory.

  150. RalphieD (OPPC) October 27th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    how can mike say that CC is not a dominant pitcher?…amazing

  151. m October 27th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    vinny-b,

    Before Joba’s last appearance, the Dynamic-less Duo gave up like 18 hits in 9 innings or something like that. Very uncharacteristic, especially of Hughes.

    The Angels jumped all over Joba in that one particular game. Mathis I think on an outside pitch.

    At some point, we have to give credit to the Angels hitters. They were held down for the most part through the first few games. You knew they were going to bounce right back up and be aggressive.

    In AJ’s first start they were willing to take first pitches thinking that he’d be a wreck and start walking people. Problem was he through first pitch strikes to almost every batter.

    They made the adjustment and attacked him in that first inning in Anaheim. AJ and Jose and Posada adjusted too, and he threw 5 shutout innings until that fateful 7th inning.

  152. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    “Hinske is on the post-season roster for Guzman.”

    That would leave no room for Bruney, and I think Bruney will be on the roster.

    The choice is between Hinske and Cervelli, IMO. Guzman doesn’t make it to the post, IMO.

    I agree with everything you say about Posada and Molina, but unfortunately Girardi doesn’t appear to. I wish Joe would see the light, but I don’t think he’s going to.

  153. The Ghost October 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    SJ44, have you also noticed how much slower Molina seems blocking balls since the injury? He used to be like a cat back there but now he reaches for balls a lot with guys on base – he never used to do that. I don’t think he’s at 100%.

  154. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    The catcher for AJ’s best pitched game of the year? Posada.

    Sometimes, you win games in spite of your manager’s moves.

    It will be interesting to see how Girardi handles this stuff for the game Burnett may have to pitch in Philly.

    With the pitcher batting, and Swisher in a deep slump, do you have Molina catch Posada and further weaken your lineup? Or, do you break the pattern?

    Will be interesting to see what he does.

    His moves cost them 2 games in the Angels series.

    He’s a first time post-season manager and sometimes overthinks situations.

    Hopefully, he learn his lesson in the ALCS.

    He showed he learned something when he went to Mo for 2 innings in Game 6.

    Hopefully, its the start of better decisionmaking for the World Series.

  155. Uncle Tito October 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    Another big issue is who is going to hit behind Alex.

    Posada left 10!!! runners on base on Sunday & hit .200 for the ALCS. Matsui has not fared much better.

    If they can’t find somebody to hit behind AROD, the Phils are justing going to walk him & give hime nothing to hit. Hopefully, Alex doesn’t get frustrated & starts chasing pitches.

    If Alex continues this hot, why not bat him 3rd & have Tex provide protection for him in the 4th spot.

  156. Phil October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Yanks will kill Hamels this series. He’s on vapors.

  157. Todd October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    If I womn 2 tickets to sit next to Francessa, my guest at the game would sit next to Mike, while I would sit 2 seats away from him……..

  158. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Wave, I’m with you…There’s no way Giradi can consider throwing AJ & Andy on 3 days rest…It would be insane….

  159. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Putting up a lineup against Philly – a markedly better team than either Anaheim or Minnesota – that includes Molina, the pitcher and a struggling Nick Swisher in the lineup diminishes the Yankees offense greatly.

    Better than the Twins definitely. Markedly better than Anaheim? Debatable. Anaheim was the #2 offense in the MAJORS. They had incredible defenders all over the infield and competent defenders in the outfield.

    At one point they had 8 players in the lineup hitting over .300 and this was late in the season.

    We faced down the likely #2 and #3 teams in the league in the playoffs and in the 2nd half of the season and won.

    Can’t underestimate the phillies, but their offense isn’t as good as people are making it out to be.

  160. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Weather forecast for Wednesday looking more encouraging-

    Wednesday: Rain, mainly before 1pm. High near 56. East wind between 11 and 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

    Wednesday Night: A chance of rain before midnight. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 47. North wind between 13 and 17 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

  161. Blackaccord October 27th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    As per joel Sherman,

    add Hinske to postseason roster, remove Guzman, Post learns

    burnett in gm 2. pettitte in 3. tba after that

    girardi says sticking with hughes in 8th

  162. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    His moves cost them 2 games in the Angels series.

    The players not executing cost them 2 games in the Angels series. If Hughes can get 1 out before he gives up 2 runs the yankees win game 5.

  163. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    “Before Joba’s last appearance, the Dynamic-less Duo gave up like 18 hits in 9 innings or something like that. Very uncharacteristic, especially of Hughes.
    The Angels jumped all over Joba in that one particular game. Mathis I think on an outside pitch”

    m: yes. I believe had Hughes started that inning fresh (with no runners on base) he would have performed fine.

    Hughes should be higher then Joba on the totem pole

  164. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    The Yankees definitely need the option of having Gaudin to start a game even if they go with the 3-man rotation that I think makes the most sense. If a game is postponed because of weather, Gaudin is going to need to make a start. Hopefully that will be the only reason he is used.

    This means Gaudin probably won’t be available out of the bullpen. Hopefully the Yankees fix the roster and replace Guzman and Cervelli with Hinske and Bruney. As much as people don’t like Bruney, they need a full bullpen against a team with an offense like the Phillies have.

  165. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Ghost,

    Molina hasn’t had as good a year behind the plate defensively as he did last year.

    Last year, I thought he should have won the Gold Glove. He was that good.

    This year, you are right, he is much slower behind the plate.

    All of the Molina’s are great blockers of pitches in the dirt. This year, not just with Burnett but with the entire staff, Jose has seemed slow to get to those pitches.

    He’s still a good defensive catcher. Just not as good as he once was.

    When you add his bat to the lineup, he’s a liability.

    Its one thing if AJ had been so dominant in his 3 post-season starts. If that was the case, it would make sense to keep the tandem together.

    However, the facts are, AJ has gotten progressively worse in each of his 3 post-season starts.

    The excuses from fans are many. However, in the post-season, there are no excuses. You either get the job done or you don’t.

    I heard the same garbage from people all year about Posada being unable to catch CC.

    How has that worked out this post-season?

    A guy who has basically been a .500 pitcher his entire career should not have a personal catcher in the post-season.

    It makes no logical sense.

    Fortunately for Girardi, he has the best team and the team has (at least so far) overcome the stubborness of the manager.

  166. MG October 27th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    SJ, I agree that Girardi learned from the mistake in game 5 by leaving Burnett in for at least one extra batter in game 6. He pulled Andy in exactly the same place he chose to have Burnett pitch in game 5 even though Andy was pitching much better with a similar pitch count.

    He is stubborn, though, and may still catch Molina in game 2. At least it’s at home so they have the DH instead of the pitcher.

    I think the Yankees are the better team and win in 6 games, I think the Yankees will get to Lee (Lee is a very good pitcher, just not as dominant as CC) and win game 1 and probably knock Pedro all over Yankee Stadium in game 2. I watched a little of Pedro’s game against the Dodgers and it looked like most of the Dodgers had never seen him before and were flailing away at changes way out of the strike zone-the Yankees know him so well I doubt they will do much of that and his 89 mph fastball won’t get that many outs.

  167. m October 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    vinny-b,

    According to Joe on WFAN today, Hughes is higher. He said they liked the matchup of Joba better in Game 6(and it did work out).

    Nobody wants to talk about it (actually one writer mentioned it), but Robertson hasn’t pitched in a while. But if he’s not being removed from the roster, he must be healthy. I hope he is.

    Pat M,

    Re: Howard. I hope we can exploit the holes in his swing.

  168. swing and miss October 27th, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    does this rally lead to the NYY merch store in TS?

  169. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    “Nobody wants to talk about it (actually one writer mentioned it), but Robertson hasn’t pitched in a while. But if he’s not being removed from the roster, he must be healthy. I hope he is”

    yes. Robertson is gold. And just as important as Hughes

  170. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Thanks to the obtuseness of the manager, not only will we be putting up a NL lineup on the road, but also at home in Game 2.

    I have just emailed Cashman on this matter, but I reserve judgment until I actually see that Posada isn’t starting in Game 2.

    I am going to give Girardi the benefit of the doubt, until then, to come to his senses.

  171. MG October 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Girardi saying the pitchers for games 4-7 are TBA makes all the sense in the world. CC would have to know after game 2 if he is pitching game 4 or he would throw a side session the next day. I’m sure it will depend on the results of games 1 and 2-if the Yankees win both it will probably be Gaudin in game 4, if they lose both probably CC, if they split it’s a toss up.

  172. Neil October 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Guzman had no real significance in the Angel series other than keeping pitchers honest. It can’t be fogotten that Hinske has postseason experience with 2 teams. Gardner’s speed is available when needed.

    Bruney hasn’t pitched in game conditions since the regular season ended. Girardi can’t take the chance that he’ll be walking too many hitters.

    Joba should be on a short leash with every appearance. With adjustments, Phil Hughes will be back to normal. Scouting reports should show how Girardi can mix and match the bullpen.

  173. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    “The Yanks aren’t going to pitch Andy or AJ on 3 days rest, barring some crisis like being down 3-1 when the 4th starter is scheduled to pitch. IMO there’s little point talking about 3 starters being a better strategy in principle, the Yanks won’t do it.”

    What makes you so sure of this?

    CC will get 3 starts, weather permitted. AJ was great last year on 3 days rest and the idea that pitching Chad Gaudin on 1 months rest is better than pitching Andy on short rest once doesn’t make any sense. Look at what Pettitte has done so far this post season. 3 games, 6.1 innings each start, 1 run allowed in 2 of those games, 3 runs allowed in the other.

    I think Gaudin is being stretched out in the case of a postponed game and to come in if AJ or Andy doesn’t have it on 3 days rest.

  174. tom October 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    AJ 2 – The perfect AJ, all of his pitches are moving and he knows where its going. No hits, no walks, beast mode
    _____________________________________________________
    this was always the AJ we saw pitching in Toronto against the Yankees at the Rogers Centre. it was always good AJ. I remember sayin LETS GET THIS GUY !

  175. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I didn’t reply yesterday, but someone said they saw Roberston at 89 mph before he was pulled and thought Girardi saw the same and got him to make sure he wasn’t injured. Anyways, that wasn’t true.

    His 6 pitches in his 2nd AB were all 93-94 on gameday. Robertson is fine. He has skill and has really improved but Girardi isn’t going to bring him in to a tight spot early in the game in the world series because if it doesn’t work out everyone is going to question why he brought David Robertson into a tight spot in the world series.

    You just have to live with it, D-Rob is extra innings insurance.

  176. champ809 October 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Tito-

    again you’re wrong about Bruney….the PERCEPTION is that Bruney was terrible all year…

    But

    the reality is that Bruney was the best 8th inning pitcher is the game at the start of the season,he was practically unhittable until he got hurt, came back to early and tried to pitch hurt after lying to the team and telling them that he was 100% ready and in the last month or so he was very good again but at that point Hughes and DRob were dealin’ and Joe didn’t want to upset the formula that had worked so well.

    One thing I think Girardi needs to get back to is DRob. The actual formula during the bulk of the run the Yanks went on was DRob in the 7th/Hughes in the 8th and Mo to finish ‘em off.IMO it could make everyone more effective by exposing them less to the Phils lineup by mixing ‘em up more so that it’s not the same Hughes/Jobs look everytime he’s goes to the pen. A lil DRoba and a lil Bruney along with Cokie/Marte and Mo i think can make Hughes and Joba more effective against this line up when they do face ‘em late in these games..

  177. saucY October 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    swing and miss
    October 27th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    does this rally lead to the NYY merch store in TS?

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    i think ‘rally’ is just another word for ‘sidewalk sale’ in this case… ;)

  178. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    If AJ pitches in Philly there is absolutely no way Molina can catch him. You can’t lose both Matsui and Posada from your lineup. That would mean the 5-9 batters would be Cano, Swish, Melky, Molina and the pitcher. That is absolutely brutal and the Yanks would have major issues scoring runs. The Yanks really need Tex’s bat to wake up in this series. He looked much better the last 2 games, so hopefully he will.

  179. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    “So then maybe what you need to look at is which catcher was more succesful in limiting the runs, hits, and homers he gave up, and in helping him with more strike outs. That would be Molina.”

    Which catcher was more successful :???: The catcher catches the ball.

    It may come as a shock to you but the PITCHER PITCHES the ball and controls how many hits, runs and homers are given up.

  180. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    “how can mike say that CC is not a dominant pitcher?…amazing”

    He drinks a can of BS every morning.

  181. MG October 27th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    I’m sorry, but those of you who think Andy would be effective starting on 3 days rest have just never played the game. If he did start on 3 days rest you would likely see him go 5 innings (or less) with at least 3-4 runs. One of the big reasons he’s pitched so well in the post season (besides being a great competitor in the post season) is that he’s have extended rest. With 3 days rest he’ll lost a couple of miles per hour with his fastball so it will be 86-87 instead of 88-90, that makes a huge difference for him since his fastball doesn’t have much movement and makes his cutter less effective.

  182. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    I’m so sick of people making excuses for AJ Burnett.

  183. Chambliss October 27th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    As much as I am looking forward to game 1, I am really looking forward to Pedro’s return to the Bronx. He is still a crafty pitcher.

    I wonder if Manuel understands how loud the stadium is going to get when Pedro gets on the hill.

  184. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    “He has skill and has really improved but Girardi isn’t going to bring him in to a tight spot early in the game in the world series because if it doesn’t work out everyone is going to question why he brought David Robertson into a tight spot in the world series”

    except only idiots would wonder/questions this

  185. iiicollies October 27th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    Seriously,

    would anyone be interested in a teleconference during the game?

  186. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    ““The Yanks aren’t going to pitch Andy or AJ on 3 days rest, barring some crisis like being down 3-1 when the 4th starter is scheduled to pitch. IMO there’s little point talking about 3 starters being a better strategy in principle, the Yanks won’t do it.”

    What makes you so sure of this?”

    no. 27-

    I’m not “sure”, but I’m pretty sure.

    First, the Yanks’ are a conservative organization. They aren’t groundbreakers tactically, and pitching games 4, 5, 6 and 7 all on short rest would be unheard of. Not to mention, risky. Better to risk 1 game with Gaudin (who has pitched pretty darn well for us) than 4.

    Second, as MG has pointed out several times, Andy hasn’t pitched on short rest since he came back to the Yanks. The WS is no time to start experimenting.

    Third, if the Yanks won’t start Andy on short rest, there’s no point pitching AJ on short rest, as you don’t gain anything.

    I see this series shaping up like 2001 – CC will pitch games 1, 4 and 7, AJ will pitch games 2 and 6, Andy will pitch game 3 and Gaudin/Joba/somebody will pitch game 5.

    That’s if it doesn’t rain out tommorrow.

  187. KO October 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Colossal mistake by Manuel starting Pedro in game 2…. this is not Pedro in his prime…. this is a guy with a fraction of his old stuff who sits at 88-90….. has to rely on a change up a lot and tries to get guys to chase just out of the zone…. EXACTLY the type of pitcher the Yanks love to wait out, work the count and crush him when he has to come into the zone….. if he doesn’t they’ll just walk over and over….. Hamels would have a much better chance at shutting us down…. if we can find a way to get by Lee in game 1, we will be looking pretty after game two with a 2-0 lead

  188. rconn23 October 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    “but their offense isn’t as good as people are making it out to be.”

    Yes it is. Ask yourself this, would you rather face a lineup featuring Howard, Utley, Werth and Ibanez and Rollins or an Angels team with Morales, Hunter a diminished Vlad Guerrero and a bunch of high average hitters with little power.

    The Phillies have four players with more than 30 home runs, including Howard who has 45. It’s a fearsome lineup.

  189. Vrsce October 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    I’m so sick of people making excuses for AJ Burnett.
    ============================================================Then go somewhere else. Simple isn’t it?

    This is the eve of the World Series, what is the point of being down on a pitcher, when the Yankees need him to perform? He is capable of performing.

  190. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    AJ burnett ERA when he walks 2 or less batters per game: 5.34

    AJ burnett ERA when he walks 3 or more batters per game: 2.96

    except only idiots would wonder/questions this

    Congrats you’ve described the mass media

  191. Yanksgal07 October 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Swing & Miss …

    The Yankee Clubhouse Store is on 42nd right off of 8th Avenue.
    Modells is directly across the street.

    Go Yankees 2009 !!!

  192. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    “Yes it is. Ask yourself this, would you rather face a lineup featuring Howard, Utley, Werth and Ibanez and Rollins or an Angels team with Morales, Hunter a diminished Vlad Guerrero and a bunch of high average hitters with little power.

    The Phillies have four players with more than 30 home runs, including Howard who has 45. It’s a fearsome lineup.”

    rconn-

    The Philly offense is very good, but you’re wrong. What you are missing is that the Angels come at you with very dangerous hitters 1-9. They score more runs per game and on adjusted equivalent runs they score significantly more than the Phillies.

    The Phillies are a dangerous team, but the Angels are a better team.

  193. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    The Yanks should wait until after game 4 to see if they have to bring the guys back on short rest. I would bring back CC to pitch game 4 no matter what. I would rather pitch AJ and Andy on short rest and then bring in Gaudin if any of them get into trouble. I highly doubt Gaudin can give them any more than 50-60 pitches. So if you are giving him a start you are going with him and then Aceves. In the Phillies bandbox that would be a disaster. Especially if they are going up against Lee you are giving up a a game. I would rather have Andy available for a game 6 instead of AJ but I don’t know if that is possible.

  194. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    “The Phillies have four players with more than 30 home runs, including Howard who has 45. It’s a fearsome lineup.”

    The Angels put up better offensive numbers than the Phillies.

    Who cares how feared they are.

  195. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    “First, the Yanks’ are a conservative organization. They aren’t groundbreakers tactically, and pitching games 4, 5, 6 and 7 all on short rest would be unheard of. Not to mention, risky. Better to risk 1 game with Gaudin (who has pitched pretty darn well for us) than 4.

    Second, as MG has pointed out several times, Andy hasn’t pitched on short rest since he came back to the Yanks. The WS is no time to start experimenting.”

    I think it makes more sense to look at the decision of each start rather than looking at it as “pitching games 4, 5, 6 and 7 all on short rest”.

    No one has a problem with CC pitching games 4 and 7 on short rest. AJ Burnett was dominant in 3 starts on short rest last season. I think it is fair to say the chances of him pitching badly on 3 days rest are about the same as him pitching badly on 4 days rest.

    So really, the decision isn’t risking 4 games instead of 1 with Gaudin. It’s who do you trust more, Andy on 3 days rest or Gaudin on a month rest. I’ll take Andy, who has been as good as anyone could have hoped for so far this season.

    I’m not buying someone’s prediction on what Pettitte will do next Monday today because they used to play baseball. Instead, I’ll listen to what Pettitte, who said he feels more comfortable on 3 days rest than 7 or 8 days rest.

  196. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Yes it is. Ask yourself this, would you rather face a lineup featuring Howard, Utley, Werth and Ibanez and Rollins or an Angels team with Morales, Hunter a diminished Vlad Guerrero and a bunch of high average hitters with little power.

    The Phillies have four players with more than 30 home runs, including Howard who has 45. It’s a fearsome lineup.

    Uh yea dude, I most definitely want to face the phillies over the angels.

    Their 3 4 5 6 hitters are all huge strike out guys. Their best hitter is completely neutralized by a good left hander, which the yankees have 4 of. With the exception of Utley and to a lesser extent Werth, they don’t get on base that much. Howard doesn’t because of his subpar batting against lefties. Raul was never a HUGE obp guy, his thing is more ‘power’, which has decreased signicantly in the second half. Werth and Utley really work the count but thats it.

    Rollins doesn’t get on base enough for a lead off hitter. He is like Jeter with less patience and a worse batter’s eye, he likes to swing early and put fastballs in play hard.

    Victorino is good but he isn’t elite. Pedro Feliz is terrible. Carlos Ruiz is average and don’t give me any of that ‘clutch postseason hitter’ garbage. I’ll take his career over a small sample.

    The Angels had a 1-9 of very high average hitters, many with surprising power.

    The phillies are a low average slugging team.

    The Yankees hit better, get on base better, and hit for power better THROUGHOUT the lineup.

    I don’t care if they have 4 players with 30 HRs, you take any of those guys out of the game and their HR power is mostly gone. The yankees have 2 legit 40 HR hitters and 3 guys that can touch 30 in a good year. And the rest of their lineup is 15-25 HR hitters.

  197. Concerned_Citizen October 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    So, on the eve of the World Series, these are the questions on Yankee fans minds -

    1.) Do you switch Teix and A-Rod in the line up? (Reasons why have been laid out numerous times.)

    2.) Who do we hand the ball to in the fourth game? Does it depend on the situation, or do you go with CC no matter what?

    3.) Do we put Hinske on the roster? (I think that’s pretty cut and dry.)

    4.) Does Posada or Molina catch AJ? Or should Molina? (Again, I think that is cut and dry – but this thread would make it seem otherwise.)

    5.) Why is there still no Yankee-themed snuggie? (OK, I made this one up. But it is a good question.)

  198. m October 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Rick Reilly riffs on Swish. Good read.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/reillygofish

  199. BD October 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    “If AJ pitches in Philly there is absolutely no way Molina can catch him. You can’t lose both Matsui and Posada from your lineup. That would mean the 5-9 batters would be Cano, Swish, Melky, Molina and the pitcher. ”

    First of all, Cano, Swish, and Melky comprise 1/3 of the regular lineup of a team that won 103 games and is going to the WS. I don’t have a big problem with those guys in the lineup.

    Also “pitcher” is kind of unavoidable, wouldn’t you say? I believe the Phillies’ pitcher will also be required to take a spot in the lineup.

    I agree that Molina is an offensive downgrade from Posada, but it’s a downgrade at ONE spot in the lineup, not five as you seem to imply.

  200. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Anybody here seen Zombieland?

    ========

    mick. Arent you the same person who had a problem on this blog yesterday that we were talking nba? So movies and Yankees are fine. Anything else is a no no. Got it. BTW heard it was really good from an nba fan.

  201. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    “Then go somewhere else. Simple isn’t it?

    This is the eve of the World Series, what is the point of being down on a pitcher, when the Yankees need him to perform? He is capable of performing.”

    Where did you read that I’m “down” on Burnett? I know he’s capable of performing, everyone knows he’s got some of the best pitches in baseball.

    It’s ridiculous that everytime he pitches badly it’s someone else’s fault. There’s a reason he didn’t get CC’s contract. He isn’t as consistent as CC and that’s not because of Posada and it’s not because he sat for half an hour so the offense could get the runs back that HE gave up.

  202. BD October 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Serious question for everyone who thinks Gaudin should get a start: What kind of performance do you expect to get out of him in terms of runs allowed and IPs?

  203. champ809 October 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    AJ is a guy who has been tough to catch his entire career.

    Jose Molina is not his muse.

    We heard the same nonsense re: CC and Posada during the season.

    How has that worked out this post-season?

    Actually it’s worked out perfectly as if you stip out the 1st inning of the game 5 start in Anaheim AJ has a postseason era of under 2 with Molina catching him which is exactly what we want from him.
    As far as everybody getting on Molina’s defense in these games with the wild pitches….those balls were practically 4 feet of the plate and Bench wouldn’t been able to block those!
    SJ you’re wrong in my opinion about Jose being worse than last year i think the difference is that AJ’s ball moves more than anybody that the Yanks had last year and so more will pitches and more balls will get away as a result. The real reason that pitchers love throwing to AJ is one he frames the ball better than anybody in the game which leads to the ump calling more strikes on the corners and edges to the pitcher’s benefit.Also Jose calls a more fluid game and has a better “feel” for what the pitcher has whereas Posada is more of a stick to the gameplan type catcher.

  204. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    The Phillies have a great middle of the order but the Angels are a much more annoying lineup to face. Mostly because of their speed. The threat of the stolen base is very distracting. Look at Andy and AJ they threw to 1st base like 5 times before even throwing a pitch. The Phillies have power but if they get on base they will for the most part stay at their base. Besides Rollins and Victorino.

  205. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Solution to the 3 days rest.

    Have C.C., A.J., Pettitte go 33 pitches in every game in the series. Therefore its like they came out everyday and warmed up. Problem solved.

  206. MG October 27th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    In order for any of starter to pitch on 3 days rest they need to know at least 2 days ahead of time so they don’t throw a side session in between starts. The manager can’t make decisions the day before a game, it just doesn’t work like that.

    Of course Andy is going to say he can go on 3 days rest, he is the consummate competitor. Mel Stottlemyre pitched game 7 in the 1964 WS on 2 days rest because he was the best pitcher available, not because he had a realistic chance of pitching a good game (he didn’t). But, like some of us keep repeating, he hasn’t done it for the last 3 years and the Yankees are an organization that rarely, if ever, makes radical changes, particularly in the World Seris.

  207. rconn23 October 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    “The Angels had a 1-9 of very high average hitters, many with surprising power.”

    The Angels are very good, but who has surprising power on the Angels? Morales, maybe.

    Who is the hitter Yankee fans feared in the postseason? Howie Kendrick, and his blazing .778 OPS and 10 home runs. Just because he kills the Yankees doesn’t mean he’s a greast hitter. It really doesn’t.

    Oh, and the great Jeff Mathis, who morphed into Joe Mauer for six games. Give me a break.

    Would you honestly take Kendry Morales in a big spot over Ryan Howard? Please, that’s ridiculous.

    Morales is their best hitter. Hunter is a good player having a career year.

    The Angels also don’t have a pitcher as great as Cliff Lee to potentially go three games.

    The Phillies have a monster lineup. It’s going to be a great series and it’s likely going to go six or seven games.

    “I don’t care if they have 4 players with 30 HRs, you take any of those guys out of the game and their HR power is mostly gone.”

    That doesn’t make any sense. They are in the lineup and have to be dealt with.

  208. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    If there is a rain delay tomorrow, what are the chances Jay Z says f it and puts on a concert til they pull the tarp off the field?

  209. BD October 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    “The phillies are a low average slugging team.

    The Yankees hit better, get on base better, and hit for power better THROUGHOUT the lineup. ”

    _____________________

    The phillies should add a “u” to their name and become the uphillies. They face an uphill battle against the Yankees.

  210. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    I agree that Molina is an offensive downgrade from Posada, but it’s a downgrade at ONE spot in the lineup
    —————–

    It’s 2 downgrades you are adding Molina and the pitcher and taking out Posada and Matsui. I understand there is nothing to do about the pitcher but your adding it to an automatic out in Molina and Swish who hasn’t hit at all. Also the top of the lineup has been pulling them along this whole post season. It’s a big loss taking your 5th and 6th hitters out of the lineup and your asking Cano to bat 5th who doesn’t hit with risp.

  211. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    “Congrats you’ve described the mass media”

    jerkface: touche’

  212. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    For those of you who think Molina has been some kind of defensive whiz take a look at this analysis:

    http://www.drivelinemechanics......filling-in

    It shows Molina to have been slightly worse defensively than the average catcher this year.

    It’s not based on “subjective” analysis – it looks at actual steals and caught stealing, actual wild pitches and passed balls, actual throwing errors and actual fielding errors.

    It also argues (if you believe that linear weights is a useful tool measure baseball events in terms of resulting runs) that the difference between the average good defensive catcher and the average poor defensive catcher is less than a win over the course of an entire season.

    Vastly outweighed by the ability to hit the ball.

  213. pub October 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    wherever gaudin fits in for this series, Just win baby, just win !

  214. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    “If they can’t find somebody to hit behind AROD, the Phils are justing going to walk him & give hime nothing to hit”

    Will MLB allow the Yanks to make a trade 2 days before the World Series?

    How about an early free agent signing.

    What about a 2-week contract for Vlad. He was looking pretty good.

    —-

    A lot of hand wringing for naught.

    Molina will catch AJ.

    Phil and Joba will still be the bridge.

    Posada and Matsui will hit behind ARod.

  215. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    That doesn’t make any sense. They are in the lineup and have to be dealt with.

    I meant neutralize them. For example, CC and AP SHOULD start 4+ games in the WS. How often will Howard face a righty?

    Thats one guy gone right there. Werth strikes out 30% of the time. You think he is going to enjoy facing our strike out staff? Ibanez will swing the bat. You think he is going to handle AJ burnett’s curve or CC’s slider? Or Andys curve?

    And you are talking about individual players. Of course Howard is a better hitter than Kendry Morales, unless you count lefties against Howard. However 1-9 the angels are BETTER.

    I’d much rather face a low average, high power team in the postseason. That is the exact kind of lineup that can get shut down. Good contact teams can scratch together runs. Power teams need to wait out good pitches for bad ones.

    Who on the Phillies is going to handle a pitcher’s pitch? Its not Howard or Ibanez or Werth. Utley, Victorino maybe.

  216. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    The angels lineup is sooo much better than the phillies. The wild card in all this is that big slugger Mathis. Phillies dont have anyone even close to killing our pitching staff like Mathis did. I for one am happy we dont have to face Mr.October again this year.

  217. Vrsce October 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    no. 27

    AJ scares the crap out of me; he is erratic and seems to lose control of his emotions under pressure. So, no excuses, just hope that he can contain himself.

  218. vinny-b (thankful to have Girardi in charge) October 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    “I guess I just have to tip my cap, and call the Yankees my daddy”

    maybe my fave quote of all-time (and the mango tree) :)

    in the minority, but Pedro never bothered me (except for the c@ckfighting hobby)

  219. no.27 October 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    “Of course Andy is going to say he can go on 3 days rest, he is the consummate competitor. Mel Stottlemyre pitched game 7 in the 1964 WS on 2 days rest because he was the best pitcher available, not because he had a realistic chance of pitching a good game (he didn’t). But, like some of us keep repeating, he hasn’t done it for the last 3 years and the Yankees are an organization that rarely, if ever, makes radical changes, particularly in the World Seris.”

    I said that Pettitte hasn’t pitched on short rest since 2006 like 3 days ago. When was he supposed to pitch on 3 days rest? The Yankees are in the World Series and we are talking about him or Chad Gaudin starting. Can you think of a situation over the last 3 years where the option was start Pettitte on 3 days for his last start of the year over a guy like Chad Gaudin in a game that had any importance at all?

    What is it that you expect from Gaudin, who has hasn’t started a game in a month that you think he should start over Pettitte?

  220. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    By pitch value on fan graphs:

    Yankees vs Fastballs: 138 batting runs
    Yankees vs Sliders: -7.5
    Yankees vs Cutters: -2.3
    Yankees vs Curves: 17.3
    Yankees vs Changeups: 16.4
    Yankees vs Splits: -2.7

    Phillies vs fastballs: 71.7
    Phillies vs sliders: 14.5
    Phillies vs cutters: -1.4
    Phillies vs curveballs: -9.9
    Phillies vs change up: -7.3
    Phillies vs splits: -3.2

    No one on either team relies heavily on a slider other than CC and good luck to the phillies hitting that.

    We’re a fastball, cutter, changeup, curveball staff
    The phillies are a fastball, changeup, curveball staff

    They are going to throw 6 out of 7 pitchers that are primarily fastball / changeup.

  221. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    What about a 2-week contract for Vlad. He was looking pretty good.

    =========

    Only problem with that is we have enough players with shot legs on the team. 4 dh’s wouldnt be good. Secondly, he would get doubled up once he got on first. Lets stick with Godzilla.

  222. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    I am concerned about us using a 3 man rotation.

    Can Josh or any of you address this question:

    Since the World Series went to the 2-3-2 format has any team used a 3 man rotation and what team and what WS?

  223. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    AJ scares the crap out of me; he is erratic and seems to lose control of his emotions under pressure. So, no excuses, just hope that he can contain himself.

    ========

    AJ scares the crap out of me as well. I think after every hit, Molina should call time out and go out on the mound, rub AJ’s ear lobes and say woosaa(ala bad boys II). It might take 6 hours to complete the game but we’ve waited 6 years for a title. Whats a few more hours?

  224. saucY October 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    i hope this andy on short rest vs gaudin is a moot argument due to us winning it in 4 (or 5)

  225. eric October 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    I was at the “whose your daddy” game in September 04, im so excited for this.

  226. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    timo
    October 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    Yankee Trader
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
    Can anyone tell me if any team in the WS, with the current format of 2-3-2, ever went with a 3 man rotation, and did they win, so I can look it up?
    _____________________________________________

    Dodgers in ‘65. Drysdale, Koufax and Osteen. Drysdale games 1 adn 4. Osteen games 3 and 6. Koufax games 2,5 and the shutout winner in game 7 on two days rest.

    ============

    Yankee Trader,
    I believe Timo answered your question on the last thread. Here it is.

  227. m October 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    For the stupid writer who asked the # of pinstripes question to CC:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....kas/081217

  228. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Regarding the 3 man rotation debate……

    Personally I think there’s nothing wrong with a 3 man WS rotation. My reasons are as follows:

    1) CC is a horse and has proven in the past that pitching on 3 days rest is no issue for him. If you can get him 3 starts in this series you do it.

    2) Burnett has stated that he would love pitching on short rest. He stated he wouldn’t worry about being too strong and could probably better locate his pitches.

    3) Pitching Gaudin means either Pettitte or Burnett only starts once, because you know CC is pitching game 4 unless we’re up 3-0 in the series.

    4) These guys have had extra rest for the past 2 months almost. They started going easy on CC back in early September. Andy skipped a start and was used very carefully at the end. They’ve had ample rest in these playoffs with all the off days. You’re asking AJ and Pettitte to pitch ONE START on 3 days rest, then they have 5 months to relax and recover.

    5) Its the World Series. If you’re ever going to push it, you push it now. Those worried about “injury concerns” see point #4 above. CC has done it before. So has AJ. Pettitte is the only concern so all you do is put him on a short leash. I’ll take Pettitte on a short leash and all his playoff experience and clutchness over Gaudin any day. You think these guys are going to blow out their arms pitching ONE game on short rest after being pampered the last few months?

    6) Regarding the Yankees being “conservative” I don’t buy that one second. They’ve proven in the playoffs they’d push the envelope. Cash has been quoted as saying “all hands on deck”, and that includes Joba’s pitch and inning count being out the window as well as CC being used already on short restin addition to Girardi tearing through the bullpen when he saw it as necessary.

    I’m not saying they’ll definitely go with a 3 man rotation and alot depends on the way the series goes (starter’s success and pitch counts in previous starts). But to say its “desperate” is foolish. Its a smart move IMO, as it clearly plays to the strength of our rotation, that being the top 3 starters.

  229. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    UPDATE, 4:35 p.m.: Pedro Martinez said at one point that he wasn’t going to comment specifically on the Yankees, but he did say New York has “as good of a lineup as you’re going to find.”

    ————————————————————

    I’m just hoping his Oedipus complex doesn’t kick in until after he pitches.

  230. m October 27th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Chad,

    Thanks. Any thoughts on why Sherman tweeted that Hinske has replaced Guzman?

  231. champ809 October 27th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    KO
    October 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    Colossal mistake by Manuel starting Pedro in game 2…. this is not Pedro in his prime…. this is a guy with a fraction of his old stuff who sits at 88-90….. has to rely on a change up a lot and tries to get guys to chase just out of the zone….

    listen actually Manuel(who’s been managing this team for 5 yrs now and wears a ring) actually is making the right call and knows exactly what he’s doing. This is actually a very easy call as Hamels has been horrific ALL YEAR wheras Pedro(prob the best SP in the game over the last 20 years) is healthy and throwing great and has thrown great games in the past in the Bronx. Just as i thought it made mare sense to throw Pedro in LA as opposed to Philly in the last series(with LA being where Pedro’s career started is the kind of intangible and storybook moment that will drive a GREAT talent like a Pedro to raise his game) starting him in the Bronx could give him that extra kick to be great again in the Bronx for 5 or 6 innings(a la Kenney Rogers ’06) which is all that Manuel wants from him.

    Hamels(a headcase)stands a better chance of being Hamels ’08 at a home start with his fans behind him as opposed to in the Bronx with the fans abusing him. Good call by Manuel imo.

  232. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    AJ Burnett 2007-2009

    600 IP sample size

    2 BB or Less: 4.55 ERA
    3 BB or more: 2.17 ERA

  233. m October 27th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    lol. Smoltz has a bold idea for stopping the Yankees who wear out pitchers. My first thought before reading it was to put ‘em on base by the cab-fulls.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....?eref=sihp

  234. pat October 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Yanks reaction to Rollins prediction of Phil’s in 5

    “Nostradamus!” Posada said. “Jimmy Rollins, let him keep predicting……He’s been predicting a lot of things lately. Let’s make him fail one.”

    “If you guys know Jimmy, you know he loves that,” said Mark Teixeira

    Said Mariano Rivera “That’s what he says. What he says and what’s going to happen is far from that. Coming from him, I’d expect nothing less…..In a good way,” Rivera quickly clarified.

  235. Big Stein October 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    m October 27th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    lol. Smoltz has a bold idea for stopping the Yankees who wear out pitchers. My first thought before reading it was to put ‘em on base by the cab-fulls.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..?eref=sihp
    ——————————————————-

    I’m wait to hear what Brad Penny has to say ;)

  236. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    27 hours and 1 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!

  237. Ninja Burglar October 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Pedro has that postseason experience that was discussed earlier in regards to something that Burnett lacks. I think it’s a good move on Manuel’s part. Pedro has been here many times before. He’s won and lost in Yankee stadium (game 7, 2003 ALCS best game of my life!).

    I gotta say, I’m feeling nostalgic about seeing Pedro pitching in the playoffs at Yankee Stadium again. It’s going to be a very exciting series.

  238. saucY October 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    miggs – GTLU Reigning Champion
    October 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    agreed with this post. you have more patience and are better with words than me

  239. JZ October 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    It will rain the entire day tomorrow in NYC, from 6am-9pm.

    LOL

  240. JZ October 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Pedro? No respect to this mxxther f?xker.
    He will be out before the 4th.

  241. pat October 27th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    Alex says the Yankees pitchers this year are who have made him a better hitter.

    “It’s the great pitching and that’s when you realize the value of one run (with our pitchers) it equals three or four runs,” Rodriguez said. “You realize that a walk, a two-out double, a two-out homer is equivalent to a lot. And I think that has taken our offense to a different approach – patience, pass the baton. Where in past years you try to hit a four-run homer with nobody on base.”

    “I thought we had to score six or seven runs to win each game,” said A-Rod, as he prepares for his World Series. “But now you feel like the first one to three or four runs will win. It’s a big difference.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....GaKBsGIpgM

  242. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Pitching Pedro in Game 2 is a stupid move and it will fail. Pedro is not the Pedro of old. The guy is a fly ball pitcher who won’t even last 5 innings against this Yankee lineup. If the Phillies lose Game 1 and Game 2 then their done.

  243. Teejay October 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Starting Gaudin in game 5 is fine just as long as it is not an elimination game for the yanks. Phils will probably be starting Joe Blanton in that game so its not a big difference.

    Gaudin can usually give you 4 really good innings before he starts to become shakey. You could then go to Robertson for an inning and then go to aceves for a couple of innings and you will be fine.

    The yankees hitters really need to hit the phillies pitching staff. They are not very good. The yanks have good numbers off Lee. They are facing Pedro, Hamels etc they really need to hit them hard and get into there bullpen.

  244. m October 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    pat,

    Thanks for that reaction. I’m surprised there was a reaction. They’re right, tho. That’s Jimmy Rollins, he started it with the Mets saying they were the team to beat.

    A little foolhardy, but it got a reax. That’s as close to trash talking as we’re ever going to see from Mariano. :shock:

  245. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    AJ pitching in their bandbox is scary. I hope his mind is right for that game. I read a quote that he said he learned a lot after his 3 post season starts, and especially pitching on the road. Then he said he has to remember to breathe during the game. That would explain giving up the 4 early runs in game 5. I really hope it works out that Andy has to pitch a more pressure game than he will.

  246. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    Can anyone tell me if any team in the WS, with the current format of 2-3-2, ever went with a 3 man rotation, and did they win, so I can look it up?
    _____________________________________________

    Dodgers in ‘65. Drysdale, Koufax and Osteen. Drysdale games 1 adn 4. Osteen games 3 and 6. Koufax games 2,5 and the shutout winner in game 7 on two days rest.

    Timo and S.o.S.-
    Thanks. Looked up the box scores. Dodgers lost 1st two away games, came home for the 3 game set and won all three with Osteen, Drysdale and Koufax in that order all pitching complete games, went back to Minnesota, where Osteen lasted 5 innings and Dodgers lost, then Koufax comes back for game 7 and pitches a 3 hit 9 inning shutout for the Dodgers in the seven game series.

    Does anyone here think, other than CC that AJ and Pettitte can repeat the Dodgers feat, preserve the bullpen, which has underperformed recently, by giving us at the very least, 7 great innings after only 3 days reast??

  247. steve October 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    guys – remember this:

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....-sam-i-am/

    the sam i am guest post? i still look back on it and laugh.

  248. Teejay October 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    I think the concern is how will Pettitte pitch on 3 days rest. Burnett pitched very well against the yankees last year on 3 days. I think he pitched 8 innings.

  249. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    “They’ve proven in the playoffs they’d push the envelope.”

    miggs-

    What have the Yanks done in the playoffs so far that pushes the envelope? Pitching CC on short rest is not pushing the envelope.

  250. saucY October 27th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    steve
    October 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
    guys – remember this:

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200…..-sam-i-am/

    the sam i am guest post? i still look back on it and laugh.

    —–

    lol
    and it looks like he gave up blogging in May

  251. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Rollins talks a lot of trash and he was able to back it up against a lot of crappy teams in the NL like the Mets and Dodgers. But lets see if he can back it up against the Yankees.

  252. pat October 27th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    m

    Miguel Cairo replaced by Brett Myer on the Phillies WS roster. :wink:

  253. 100 pitches of fun... October 27th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    I think it’s ridiculous that the Jays pitched AJ on 3 days rest 3 times. I know they hate the Yanks and he was a free agent so they didn’t care how they handled him. But it’s still a joke.

  254. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/ws/yr1965ws.shtml

    Looking at that 65 twins vs. Dodgers WS the Twins also went with three pitchers Mudcat Grant, Camilio Pascual, and Jim Kaat, two of the games they got thru only 2-3 innings a spent their bullpen, losing to the best lefty of all time in Koufax. Those were the days when the bullpens had no such thing as set-up guys.

    Still can’t convince me that only pitching CC, AJ, and Pettitte will be our key to winning #27. Remember also that 2 out of their 3 big lefty hitters in Ibanez and Utley actually have better batting averages and have better slugging averages facing lefties.

  255. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Miguel Cairo replaced by Brett Myers on the Phillies WS roster.
    ————————————————

    Brett Myers beat us in the 3 game series earlier in the year, and as a righty, held lefties to a .223 average.

    Cairo batted .226 with no stolen bases.

    Ben Francisco will be in left, a good fielder and potent bat, while Ibanez DH’s in Yankee stadium.

  256. Ed October 27th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Phils fans have class, i found a nice article about one in particular

    http://www.philly.com/philly/b.....errer=digg

  257. YF October 27th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Off the top of my head I came up with the following playes who may have had bigger Yankee uniforms than CC:

    Ken Phelps, Danny Tartabull, Jesse Barfield, David Wells, Hideki “Fat Toad” Irabu. Babe Ruth!

  258. playballnyy October 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    on Matsui playing the field–Girardi would be out of his mind to do that. I don’t think you should make such a drastic change during the post season that you haven’t done during the regular season. We won interleague games at national ball parks without him playing the field, he mostly pinch hit , and wasn’t too effective at that job. He hasn’t seen cole hammels before and has horrible numbers against Pedro. I don’t think his bat warrants sacrificing the spot on the field. Swisher is not a gold glover, but did the job well enough to help the team get to the postseason as the right field starter for most of the season and I’m a lot more confident with him out there than matsui. When the changes don’t result in a great improvement, why stray from what got u to the post season?

  259. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Off the top of my head I came up with the following playes who may have had bigger Yankee uniforms than CC:

    Ken Phelps, Danny Tartabull, Jesse Barfield, David Wells, Hideki “Fat Toad” Irabu. Babe Ruth!

    There is no way that Babe Ruth was 6’7 260, sorry CC is by far the hugest guy to wear the uniform ever.

  260. Concerned_Citizen October 27th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    New thread

  261. Z-Man October 27th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    I didn’t read all the comments, but I haven’t heard the media mention the possibility of a rainout tomorrow. That would be a NIGHTMARE, as it would force Games 1-5 to be on consecutive nights. That leaves Gaudin as your Game 4 starter, CC on short rest for Game 5, and then Burnett and Pettitte for 6 and 7.

    Not something the Yanks would want. AT ALL.

  262. dsss October 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    In all this talk about needing a reliable 4th starter, which was going on for the past 3-4months, is it forgotten that cashman took a pass on Cliff Lee when Cleveland got rid of him? Does anyone know the asking price and what Phili gave up for him? If the yankees had gotten him, Phile probably wouldn’t be here, and even the though of someone besides the Yankees wining would be absurd.

  263. LukeS October 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    You ever see Rick “Big Daddy” Reuschel in a Yankee home uni? It would give CC’s a run for the money!

  264. JJ October 28th, 2009 at 2:29 am

    I will trust in Gaudin.He will have very good performance in world series.

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