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“I like the heck out of him”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Phillies manager Charlie Manuel tells a story like none other. You could call him folksy. I think he sounds a lot like some of my friends from Missouri. Manuel was CC Sabathia’s first manager in the big leagues. It was 2001 and Sabathia was a 20-year-old who had never pitched above Double-A. Manuel had to fight to get Sabathia on the big league roster out of spring training. It’s a long story, but it’s a good story, and Manuel told it this afternoon at the stadium. Here’s Manuel…

You know, CC is a great talent, and he’s a tremendous pitcher. But one of the biggest things, I say one of the biggest things he’s got is he has a real big desire, and he loves to pitch. He’s a competitor.

You know, I remember the first time that I really actually saw CC, we took him to a Hall of Fame — I think it was a Hall of Fame game – and we might have been playing the Yankees. No, it was Texas, but anyway. We were playing somebody, and because he was in the minor leagues and he was one of our high draft choices and everything, we brought him to that game, and he got lit up. He got lit up pretty good.

I remember when I walked up and told him, I said, ‘Don’t worry about it, kid, because you’re going to be a real good pitcher one of these days, you’re going to pitch in the big leagues for a long time.’ Ever since then, when we’d go to spring training and stuff, of course he would go to spring training and I’d always go watch him pitch. I used to like to watch him hit, too, because he could hit.

Eventually, I think about a year and a half or something went by, and he went to spring training with us (in big league camp), and once we had him in spring training, Dick Pole and I — Dick Pole was my pitching coach — we wanted to look at him and see if he could help us. Actually the first couple times I saw him pitch, I knew he could help us because he had that kind of talent.

We went to Venezuela to play Houston Astros in an exhibition in spring training, and all of us were wondering what CC was like, and if he could handle Major League hitters. In the first inning he had the bases loaded. He could probably tell you better than I can, but he had the bases loaded and we had Bagwell and we had the center fielder, Hidalgo and Berkman, and CC got out of the inning. He struck two of them out, popped one of them up, and I told Dick Pole, ‘He’s ready.’

So we went back, and we started (the spring training schedule) and he pitched a few times, and we used to get in these arguments every meeting that we had with the player development department. We’d get in all these arguments and I’d want to keep him, and finally we won out. And we promised that when we took him that we would kind of monitor him and break him in.

Actually, he would go out and pitch, he’d pitch sometimes four and two thirds or five innings, and I want to say he ended up 17-5, but we were worried about working him too much. And everybody kept telling me about pitching him a lot, and his pitch count and everything like that. Actually if you go back and look, like from the middle of August through September, CC was our best pitcher. And he was probably, without a doubt he was our strongest pitcher, and he finished the season real big out here.

Where he’s at now tells a story because that’s kind of — he’s every bit that good. For us to beat CC, we’ve got to beat a good pitcher, and I have all the respect in the world for him. As a matter of fact, I like the heck out of him.

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508 Responses to ““I like the heck out of him””

  1. Tarheelyank October 27th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    “I like the heck out of him.”

    Me too Charlie.

  2. Dan October 27th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Great read Chad. You are doing a tremendous job with the Journal News. I’m loving every post you put together. I will really miss your coverage of the S/WB Yankees, howver. Either way – great job.

  3. Brett S. October 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    New York is probably starting off on the wrong foot by putting Shane Victorino in a dress on the front page of the NY Post. Not that the post has any journalistic integrity… But just know it spurs rebuttals like this: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....aqSTNbFY1I

  4. Brett S. October 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    New York is probably starting off on the wrong foot by putting Shane Victorino in a dress on the front page of the NY Post. Not that the post has any journalistic integrity… But just know it spurs rebuttals like this: (correct link)

    http://www.4daysrest.com/2009/.....a-wedding/

  5. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Nick,
    I liked the reasoning on your last post but it was SJ like.

  6. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I love how NESN is saying that the Yankees will be shut down by the Phillies pitching. You would think that Red Sox homers and guys like Kruk would stop with the predictions because they have been wrong all year long.

    Second, the Phillies pitching is average and the only good pitcher they have in there rotation is Cliff Lee. Other than that Hamels has been pathetic this entire postseason with a sub 6.00 ERA, Pedro is washed up, and Blanton stinks.

    repost

  7. Concerned_Citizen October 27th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Hey Brett, did you read that blogpost about New York?

    Here’s a quote from it: “They’ll occasionally stop downstairs to the bar, where the TV’s are, to pay for their Heineken with the crisp $100 bill that comes from the family money of their Jew father.”

    PRETTY sure an anti-semite doesn’t have the authority to determine which fans are more obnoxious than others.

  8. iiicollies October 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Here’s what Mr. William Schweitzer put on the Bats blog.

    ‘I knew I would be a lifelong Phillies fan after they managed to win the World Series in 2008. Before that, I had never even watched a game.’

    Wow, he really does have a long history of commitment!!

  9. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    SJ-like?

    It was a joke.

    Was it SJ-like because I used a series of short paragraphs?

    Like I’m doing now?

  10. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 27th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
    I didn’t realize smacking someone with facts they’re clearly lacking, was getting all worked up. But, whatever.

    I’d much prefer an Erica countdown post, to this pompous prat.

    *****

    You want it.. you’ve got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    21 hours and 48 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Erica delivers in the clutch!)

  11. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Don’t the Yankee hitters hit left- handed pitching well ?

  12. CB October 27th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    The phillies are a good team. In the national league they are a particularly good team.

    But in weighing this series much of it gets down to several key factors:

    1. Do you believe Jason Werth is truly a borderline superstar type player and do you believe Raul Ibanez is truly as talented hitting left handed pitchers as his numbers have suggested in the recent past?

    Ryan Howard is awful against left handed pitching. Abysmal. He is David Eckstein against left handed pitching this past season. But the phillies still score against left handed pitching very well. And that’s primarily because Werth has a significant platoon split in the opposite direction and really feasts on left handed pitching. He had a huge year this year and his production against left handed pitching offset Howard’s dismal performance.

    In a similar vein Raul Ibanez has hit better against lefties than righties this year. Wave told me that he also did that last year so it is more than a recent trend. Nonetheless, can Ibanez continue to do that against CC and Pettite – two far above average left handers.

    2. How good do you believe CC is, particularly against RH batters?

    It’s interesting how some on the Philly side of the ledger are putting a lot of stock in the phillies beating the CC and the brewers last year in the playoffs. Let them keep thinking that I suppose as it’s irrelevant to this year. Last year CC was on fumes by the time the playoffs started.

    This year he is clearly the best starting pitcher of anyone in the series.

    A particularly problematic aspect of facing CC for the phillies is this – CC is very good against RH hitters. His change up and back foot slider are devastating pitches to RH hitters.

    I bring this up because Howard is likely going to have huge problems against CC. Utley and Ibanez likely will have difficulty as well. The Phillies will need their RH batters – especially Werth and Rollins to have big games against CC. But given CC’s repertoire against righties its just hard to bet on that.

    A similar though lesser argument can be made with Pettite. If he has his cutter going he can be very tough on RH hitters. Far tougher than a even a good LH pitcher usually can be.

    3. How do Philly pitchers deal with the length of the yankees line up.

    The phillies are the best offensive club in the NL. As such their pitching staff never had to fact the top offensive in their league. Now you could say the same thing about the yankees staff. But given how poor the NL is, the phillies really were out on an island of their own in terms of being the best offense in the leauge. No other NL club could really match their fire power. In the AL there were still the Sox, Angels and Tampa – all very good offensive team.

    The phillies staff will not have faced any team with the depth and versatility that the yankees have.

    There are a lot of other issues at play. But those are some of the major ones, IMO.

  13. Wait till the World Series October 27th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Yankee hitters hit ALL pitching well.

  14. Phil October 27th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    wasn’t on the last thread, but Joe West is bad news.

  15. Stephen October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Seriously guys. Our team is going to the World Series, yet everyone’s all bent out of shape (yet again) about what other people think. Relax! Enjoy it.

    This isn’t the Oscars; no one gets to vote on who wins.

    Seriously, for a fanbase that loves the toughness of GGBG, Posada and Sabathia, we sure do have thin skins.

  16. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    21 hours. Cant wait!!

  17. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    SJ44 is earnest. He doesn’t joke around, and he doesn’t trade in irony.

    I feel that Nick in wherever he happens to be is sort of the opposite of SJ44.

    I like the heck out of both of them, of course.

  18. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Nick,

    My error, I mixed up the content of a few of the last posts.
    It was a pretty obvious joke.

  19. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Wait till the World Series
    Thats the point. the Yankees hit all pitching well. But if you listen to these fools out there they think the Phillies have an advantage in pitching because of Hamels, and Happ to go with Lee. Hamels and Happ have been weak this entire postseason.

    The Angels had better pitching than the Phillies.

  20. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Jay-Z and Alicia Keyes don’t like rain. They are performing before Game 2

    http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009.....ld-series/

  21. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    And the cast of Glee is peforming before Game 3!! YAY!!!!

    I heart Glee!

  22. Wait till the World Series October 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Hamels and Happ have been pitching absolutely horrific. They may be the difference in this series.

  23. pat October 27th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Cliff Lee on A-Rod: “I don’t think there’s any one way to get that guy out. You’ve got to be unpredictable.”

    Underhand slow pitch?

  24. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Actually Hamels has a sub 7.00 ERA in postseason play.

  25. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Great post, CB.

    Manuel really ought to move Howard down in the line-up against lefties. But that’s not done, the way bringing your closer into the 6th or 7th inning is not done, even if it makes sense.

  26. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Thanks, Wave Your Hat. We — I mean I, like you right back. Especially when you and I are on the same side of a contentions debate, as we were on the ‘bring back Andy Pettitte’ question and as we are on the ‘borderline Hall-of-Famer vs. lovable backup Huggy Bear’ catcher debate.

    KF: no worries. But remember, you can always trust content from Nick in SF. :)

  27. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    “contentious” that is.

  28. Mark-Cant Touch This October 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    And the cast of Glee is peforming before Game 3!! YAY!!!!

    I heart Glee!
    _______-

    I love that show!

  29. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    KF: no worries. But remember, you can always trust content from Nick in SF. :)

    Is that because of your NY roots?

  30. JRod October 27th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    I also love Glee. I really hope they don’t get booed out of Philly though.

  31. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I love Glee too. However I was cracking up at a comment from a friend of mine: “New York has Jay Z performing at the World Series. Philly gets the cast of Glee. Enough said.”

    Who watched biggest loser tonight? I thought Jeter was actually going to be on the show….

  32. Rose October 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Phillies won the World Series last year and are in it this year. I give them credit. But the Yankees will win it all this year. I think we will see some exciting games.

    Posada should catch AJ in the NL park.

    Why is Joe West part of the umpiring crew? He is a terrible umpire. If they could, he should be on the RF or LF lines. Keep him away from home plate and the bases.

  33. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “Is that because of your NY roots?”

    Doesn’t hurt!

  34. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    I realize that he’s been hard to miss watching so far, but, has anybody noticed that Rodriguez appears to be standing a little father off the plate, lately? At least in the last part of the season, compared to clips of other years, he appears to be standing about a foot or so back towards the 3rd base side of the box, making it nearly impossible for him to get jammed on inside pitches.

  35. pat October 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Yanks look very stressed out today. :wink:

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/.....810271936/

  36. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    “Who watched biggest loser tonight? I thought Jeter was actually going to be on the show….”

    Maybe they meant that a contestent would lose the weight of a Derek Jeter.

  37. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    NYY626 – GO ANDY
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
    I love Glee too. However I was cracking up at a comment from a friend of mine: “New York has Jay Z performing at the World Series. Philly gets the cast of Glee. Enough said.”

    Who watched biggest loser tonight? I thought Jeter was actually going to be on the show….

    ******

    Glee is actually really awesome. The Glee version of Queen’s “Somebody to Love” was amazing

    I watch Biggest Loser. I was a little disappointed that Jeter was prerecorded. But I guess prerecorded Jeter is still beter than no Jeter. At the end of the episode I was sobbing so much I didn’t even realize it

  38. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I saw Jeter on the biggest loser, also. I was disappointed that it was just a recording.

    It was the first time I have seen the show and I wasn’t sure I really understood the premise. I mean i obviously understand they are trying to lose weight, but it seemed kind of unfair as one of the teams had a handful of players that were significantly larger than the other team. Isn’t that somewhat of a disadvantage?

  39. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Truth be told, SJ would be flattered to be compared to Nick in SF…..

  40. Ed H. (Winner of Guess the Postseason Roster) October 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Great story, Chad. Thanks for transcribing such a long quote.

  41. m October 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    lol @ Charles Barkley. He’s bitter that guys like DJ Mbenga and Adam Morrison are getting championship rings. Poor ting!

  42. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog!
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
    I saw Jeter on the biggest loser, also. I was disappointed that it was just a recording.

    It was the first time I have seen the show and I wasn’t sure I really understood the premise. I mean i obviously understand they are trying to lose weight, but it seemed kind of unfair as one of the teams had a handful of players that were significantly larger than the other team. Isn’t that somewhat of a disadvantage?

    ******

    In the first few weeks of the show the contestants competed in teams of two.

    Two weeks ago, they had a challenge and the winner of the challenge got to choose the teams of two. She purposely designed the teams that way so she would be on the team with the greater advantage

  43. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Pat M-

    When is your arrival in New York???

  44. BD October 27th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Christina: It’s based on percentages.

  45. JZ October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Final thoughts on WS:

    1. Yanks have to go get Pedro.
    2. Whichever team wins game 1 wins WS
    3. Yanks bullpen, especially Hughes and Joba, HAVE TO pitch better than they did in DS and LCS, simply because Phillies’ lineup is much powerful than either Angels or Twins have.
    4. Mo cannot make mistakes.
    5. I think it’s a pure 50-50 series.
    6. Joe cannot make overmanaged mistakes.

    Best luck to Yankees!!

  46. pat October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    GB

    I asked that a while back and no one answered. He seems to have backed off the plate when he widened his stance.

  47. CB October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Wave,

    Thanks. I’ve been thinking back to all of the heated debates on here about bringing Andy back last winter.

    I thought it was critical but no one was more vocal about it than you.

    No way they win the series without him.

    He’s clearly their #2 starter right now and has been for quite some time.

    The rediscovery of his cutter midseason was just a complete revelation.

    It allowed him to reclaim the inner half of the plate against RH hitters.

    He’s now working both halves of the plate beautifully.

  48. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Truth be told, SJ would be flattered to be compared to Nick in SF…..

    How many here would actually like SJ to channel his inner Nick? If he did, would they think he was an impostor.

  49. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Personally, I prefer the short paragraph approach to commenting.

    Very Hemingwayesque.

    As opposed to the Dickensian style once popular with commenters like “Dave”.

  50. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
    Personally, I prefer the short paragraph approach to commenting.

    Very Hemingwayesque.

    As opposed to the Dickensian style once popular with commenters like “Dave”.

    ******

    I prefer lots of smilies and light hearted humor. Filled with occasional references to muppets and Johnny Damon :-)

  51. m October 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Was it randy l? He used to write lowercase one paragraph. I asked him nicely to break it up so we could read his great ideas. I had no idea that he only wanted to talk about how incompetent Cashman was. :P

  52. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    What ever happened to Dave? Wasn’t he in medical school or at least a resident.

  53. pat October 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    “lol @ Charles Barkley.”

    He was on Letterman last night and was LOL funny talking about golf.

  54. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    I’m stumped.

    If the Phillies are named after Philadelphia, then why is their AA team in Reading called the Phillies also?

    Shouldn’t they be the Reading Readies?

  55. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    I’m stumped.

    If the Phillies are named after Philadelphia, then why is their AA team in Reading called the Phillies also?

    Shouldn’t they be the Reading Readies?

    *****

    Doesn’t take much to stump you does it? ;-)

  56. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Erica

    In the first few weeks of the show the contestants competed in teams of two.

    Two weeks ago, they had a challenge and the winner of the challenge got to choose the teams of two. She purposely designed the teams that way so she would be on the team with the greater advantage
    ———————-
    Ohhh, thanks. Now it makes sense. The whole time I was pondering how unfair this show was to the team wearing the black shirts.

  57. KF October 27th, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    m October 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Was it randy l? He used to write lowercase one paragraph. I asked him nicely to break it up so we could read his great ideas. I had no idea that he only wanted to talk about how incompetent Cashman was.

    In his spare time between games he preparing his mea culpa to share with us after the Yankee parade.

  58. m October 27th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    He’s god-awful at it, pat.

    I do like him on TNT, though. That crew is much better than the one they use for baseball. :P

  59. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog!
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
    Erica

    In the first few weeks of the show the contestants competed in teams of two.

    Two weeks ago, they had a challenge and the winner of the challenge got to choose the teams of two. She purposely designed the teams that way so she would be on the team with the greater advantage
    ———————-
    Ohhh, thanks. Now it makes sense. The whole time I was pondering how unfair this show was to the team wearing the black shirts.

    ********

    Be careful Christina. The show is very addicting. I watched it for the first time two years ago during the TV writers strike cause there was nothing else on. (Reality TV isn’t normally my thing). I have not been able to stop watching it since

  60. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    pat
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
    GB

    I asked that a while back and no one answered. He seems to have backed off the plate when he widened his stance.

    ————————————————————

    It really makes you scratch your head that just backing a few inches off the plate, spreading out a few more inches and lowering the leg kick a couple of inches can make that much difference, doesn’t it? Damon, Teixeira, Posada and Matsui will be the controlling factors as to whether Rodriguez ever sees a pitch over the plate.

  61. Betsy October 27th, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Andy against the Phillies? I don’t think that’s a good matchup. The SP is about even now, which is a disadvantage for the Yankees. Lee matches up well enough with CC and that is bad enough. WE can’t count on CC to win all his starts because not only is he up against a great offense, he’s matched against a terrific pitcher. Unless you can tell me that Phil Hughes is going to find his mojo again, I don’t see where the Yankees have any advantages. This series is a push

  62. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Erica, I arrive at LAG tomorrow @ 10:05….I’m waiting for the car service to pick me up any time now…….Go Bombers !!!! Watch for Robbie Cano to shine in National Spotlight…..

  63. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    I can’t find a start time for the World Series game anywhere.

    There should be a site, where it would tell you – how many hours and minutes until Game 1.

    I’m stumped.

  64. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Pat M.
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
    Erica, I arrive at LAG tomorrow @ 10:05….I’m waiting for the car service to pick me up any time now…….Go Bombers !!!! Watch for Robbie Cano to shine in National Spotlight…..

    *****

    I hope you have a great time here! I know you have quite the itinerary planned. Have a great flight :-)

    The concert is going to be amazing!!!

  65. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
    I can’t find a start time for the World Series game anywhere.

    There should be a site, where it would tell you – how many hours and minutes until Game 1.

    I’m stumped.

    ******

    Don’t try to be suave Mister!!!!!!!

    21 hours and 4 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. BD October 27th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    If the Phillies are named after Philadelphia, then why is their AA team in Reading called the Phillies also?

    Shouldn’t they be the Reading Readies?

    _________________________

    Good thing they aren’t in Titusville.

  67. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    “21 hours and 4 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!!!!”

    That’s exactly what I’m looking for!!
    What a miracle!

    You are like a Yankee alarm clock. What a life saver.

  68. John October 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    I predict a hr by CC in game 4.

  69. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Med-student dave was the one who posted in Russian-novelesque paragraphs about the paramount need for the Yanks to sign Ben Sheets — not randy l.

  70. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Nick in SF-

    Did I make you laugh today?

  71. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    “21 hours and 4 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!!!!”

    That’s exactly what I’m looking for!!
    What a miracle!

    You are like a Yankee alarm clock. What a life saver.

    *****

    Yankee alarm clock……. I like it :-)

  72. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Pat M – I hope you’re bringing lots of brownie bites with you because it’s going to be damp in the City. Seriously, have a lot of your meds with you.

    Bod – I fear you are going to be vastly disappointed if you think Molina won’t be catching AJ. I say that especially because I listened to Girardi’s conversation with Francessa, compliments of Pel, and besides saying he was leaning toward staying with Molina he also said that he wasn’t as worried about carrying 3 catches in the world series (in response to the question abou replacing Cervelli) and also said that it’s a chance you have to take and that catchers can get hurt even with three catchers. I thought that pretty much tipped his hand.

    To you of all people I offer this (from an email I received on Sunday, which was clinch day: Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not get bent out of shape. If anyone can fit that mold, surely it is you.

    :)

  73. RalphieD (OPPC) October 27th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    “Andy against the Phillies? I don’t think that’s a good matchup. The SP is about even now, which is a disadvantage for the Yankees. Lee matches up well enough with CC and that is bad enough. WE can’t count on CC to win all his starts because not only is he up against a great offense, he’s matched against a terrific pitcher. Unless you can tell me that Phil Hughes is going to find his mojo again, I don’t see where the Yankees have any advantages. This series is a push”

    Game 1- CC vs Lee…even, if not slight edge to CC
    Game 2- AJ vs Pedro….AJ is better hands down
    Game 3- Andy vs Hamels…hamels can have a dominant game but Andy has had the much better season and post-season

    yankee edge id say

  74. marie October 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Minka Kelly’s latest project (sounds scary)

    http://hollywoodcrush.mtv.com/.....-roommate/

  75. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    “Good thing they aren’t in Titusville.”

    Hmmm…. they’d sell lots of merchandise.
    of course this is a double A baseball team, not double D.

  76. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Erica: is that a trick question?

  77. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    I keep posting this, but no one pays attention to me when I actually talk about baseball. So I am going to try one more time…..

    I looked up the Yanks starting line up against Lee. Every Yankee has really decent numbers except Johnny Damon and Cano.

    Jeter has .407 in 30 PAs
    A-Rod has .333 in 20 PAs
    Tex has .391 in 26 PAs
    Posada has .286 in 22 PAs
    Swisher has .333 in 24 PAs
    Melky has .273 in 12 PAs
    Matsui has .294 in 19 PAs

    If you accuscore those numbers, you have the Yanks with a definite edge

  78. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
    Erica: is that a trick question?

    *****

    Nope!

  79. CB October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Nearly anything can happen in a short series and the phillies are a good team, but people are over rating how good they are.

    If these teams played 100 times the yankees would win 55-57 of those games.

    The yankees are the better team – and by a considerable margin.

    Now that doesn’t guarantee the yankees will win. But the yanks are clearly the better team and it’s not like they are only better by a hair. They are better by a significant margin.

  80. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    mick, by the way, I too wondered if that was an SJ imposter for the exact reason you stated. If was too bizarre for him to misremember about Gaudin being on the rosters. Or not. Who knows. There have been so many SJ imposters I lost count. However I also wondered about SJ saying he found out who it was and called the kid’s parents. That didn’t even make sense to me.

  81. pat October 27th, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Nick in SF

    Stupid question- Just heard about the Bay Bridge cable snapping and the bridge being closed. Is there an easy alternate route or is that the only main thoroughfare from SF to Oakland?

  82. Betsy October 27th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Ralphie, I’ve been so impressed with Andy in the post-season, but I do think this is a tough matchup.

    I’ve not jumped off the AJ bandwagon, but I think Pedro is going to be tougher than people think. The guy can pitch even if he is just a shadow of his old self. I guess it comes down to the fact that I think the Phillies offense is better than ours ………at least in the post-season. Their lineup is scary.

  83. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    “Their lineup is scary.”

    Isn’t ours!

  84. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    the Philly Phillies? Never thought of that.

  85. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Its going to be a travesty if Molina catches on Thursday, ONLY because I wanna see Jorge vs. Pedro :)

  86. iiicollies October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Trish,

    Have you seen the “Fan for Life” stories at NYT Bats blog?

  87. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Betsy
    Their lineup got shut down by Vicente Padilla. LOL !

    There lineup is not better then the Yankees. Check out all the numbers on their offense and you will see that even the Angels are better than them. The Phillies just hit more homeruns but the Angels are better. The only reason why the Yankees haven’t scored more runs in this postseason is because the quality of pitching they have seen has been really good. In October pitching is the key good pitching can stop any offense.

    The Phillies look really good because they faced a crappy Rockies team and a crappy Dodgers team. They haven’t faced a team like the Yankees in te past 2 year of their postseason run.

  88. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Erica: I can’t remember, but probably yes?

    pat: assuming one needs to get across the Bay and is in a car (otherwise one could take BART), there are other bridges to get across but they involve a lot more driving.

    To the north one could take the Golden Gate Bridge into Marin and then drive up to the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge.

    Or one could drive down the peninsula and take the San Mateo Bridge, which goes from Foster City to Fremont, or go a little farther south to the Dumbarton Bridge, which goes from East Palo Alto to Newark/Fremont.

    Both trips involve a lot of extra driving.

    It must be nasty out there right now.

  89. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Vicente Padilla shut the Phillies down in one game in the NLCS.

  90. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    NYY626 – GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Its going to be a travesty if Molina catches on Thursday, ONLY because I wanna see Jorge vs. Pedro :)

    It’s not a travesty if Girardi choose Molina to catch on Thursday and the Yankees win….”The needs of the many out way the needs of the few.”

  91. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    who’ll stop the rain??

    Not liking the map on weather.com right now

  92. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    Erica: I can’t remember, but probably yes?

    ******

    Dude!!!! WDNHFD

  93. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    I think I might have done a few “cliff-notes” style posts for those who had trouble finishing some of Dave’s novels.

    Exhausting work indeed.

    So Jay-Z doesn’t sing in the rain ?

    I find it to be an odd song for the Yankees to adopt.

    I mean Jay-Z is no Ronan Tynan but what exactly is he coppin’ from the Dominicans in Harlem?

  94. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Okay, here is the prediction chart to date. I try to get it up when some of the posters on it (but who haven’t given their picks yet) are around but it doesn’t always work out.

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON.pdf

    Picks accepted until first pitch tomorrow night. PLEASE PUT MY NAME IN THE POST. Even if I don’t respond to individual posters, I will definitely go through all of the threads between now and the beginning of the game tomorrow night.

  95. MG October 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Betsy, Andy has made 2 starts against the Phillies while with the Astros at Citizens Bank Park-he allowed 1 earned run in 12 innings and struck out 9.

    I think you overthink this stuff and worry way too much.

  96. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Erica: I was only considering your posts on LoHud.

  97. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
    Erica: I was only considering your posts on LoHud.

    ****

    Gotcha, but question still unanswered

  98. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    CC faced a danagerous Angels lineup that hit him well in the regualr season and they got shut down by him in the postseason.

    Some of you need to calm down when you talk about the Phillies lineup. Good pitching can shut down any lineup including the Phillies lineup. CC can shut them down.

  99. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Yes.

  100. Betsy October 27th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Jeremy, I hope you’re right but I still have my doubts. This team leaves a ridiculous # of baserunners on because they are not that great at the fundamentals. I still think folks are underestimating the Phils because they play in a much weaker league. This team is not going to beat itself like the Twins and the Angels did – that’s really how the Yankees won those two series. They are extremely tough and resilient …..

  101. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Guess the Line Up will resume tomorrow at 3pm.

    This will be round 9. With a minimum of 4 rounds to play left, the standings are very close for our special postseason GTLU

    After 8 rounds of Postseason Guess the Line Up, there have been 31 different winners. Here are the ones with 2 or more:

    Andrew GTLU Bronze Medalist – 5 wins- 10/7, 10/9, 10/16, 10/19, 10/22
    Fran- 4 wins – 10/11, 10/16, 10/19, 10/24
    Upstate Kate – 4 wins – 10/7, 10/11, 10/16, 10/19
    Vin – 4 wins – 10/9, 10/16, 10/19, 10/24
    Blackaccord – 3 wins – 10/7, 10/16, 10/19
    Ed H – 3 wins – 10/11, 10/16, 10/19
    NYY626 – 3 wins – 10/9, 10/19, 10/24
    Rob in VT – 3 wins -10/9, 10/16, 10/19
    Andrew33 – 2wins – 10/19, 10/22
    Arliss – 2 wins – 10/9, 10/22
    Christina -2 wins – 10/11, 10/19
    Doreen – 2 wins – 10/7, 10/11
    Frank from Chatham – 2 wins– 10/20,10/22
    KF – 2 wins – 10/11, 10/19
    Shawn- 2 wins- 10/16, 10/22

  102. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    MG October 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Betsy, Andy has made 2 starts against the Phillies while with the Astros at Citizens Bank Park-he allowed 1 earned run in 12 innings and struck out 9.

    I think you overthink this stuff and worry way too much.

    Consistency is good in baseball, and Betsy has worried all season, I think I see an analogy here!!!

  103. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Thank you :-)

  104. pat October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Nick

    Thanks. The report I heard made it sound like a traffic nightmare but they didn’t go into detail.

  105. Betsy October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    MG, I did forget that Andy faced the Phils as recently as a couple of years ago. Worry too much? I’ve no doubt……..however, I also think there are people that are overly confident and don’t respect the Phillies enough.

  106. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    “I mean Jay-Z is no Ronan Tynan but what exactly is he coppin’ from the Dominicans in Harlem?”

    Arroz con pollo. :)

  107. raymagnetic - The Curious Case of Joe Girardi October 27th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    I’d be worried if Betsy wasn’t worried.

  108. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    I would like it to be noted on the record that my one really and truly baseball related post on this particular thread continues to go completely ignored.

    And you people wonder why I choose to discuss Muppets!

  109. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    NYY626 – GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Its going to be a travesty if Molina catches on Thursday, ONLY because I wanna see Jorge vs. Pedro :)

    It’s not a travesty if Girardi choose Molina to catch on Thursday and the Yankees win….”The needs of the many out way the needs of the few.”
    ________________________________________________________________
    I was kidding about calling it a “travesty”. I just meant that it would be entertaining to watch JoPo bat against Pedro :) At this point in the “who should catch AJ debate”, I really dont care if they stick the bat boy behind the plate so long as we win.

  110. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    In Trisha’s world series prediction chart Mel is the only one who has the Yankees in a sweep, does that make her a “true yankee” fan?

  111. NYY626 - GO ANDY October 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Erica – your baseball post post was very informative. Looks like the yankees are going to kick Lee’s butt :)

  112. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    woohoo… I’m still tied with Nick in the GTLU standings.

    I’d enter more often, but I never know when those games start. We really need a GTLU countdown clock…. ;-)

  113. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    At this point in the “who should catch AJ debate”, I really dont care if they stick the bat boy behind the plate so long as we win.

    I wonder what SJ would think about that?

  114. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    woohoo… I’m still tied with Nick in the GTLU standings.

    I’d enter more often, but I never know when those games start. We really need a GTLU countdown clock….
    ******

    3pm :-). There is only so many countdowns I can handle

  115. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Betsy
    So you are saying that the Yankees didn’t win those series but the Angels and Twins gave it to the Yankees ? LOL PLEASE !

    The Yankees won those series and the reason why the Twins and Angels made mistakes is because the Yankees but pressure on them which lead to them making mistakes.
    Second, the offense is starting to heat up and do you honestly think that teams score a lot of runs in October ?
    Because they don’t, good pitching wins in October and the Yankees have better pitching.

  116. Nick in SF October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    pat, I am sure it is a traffic nightmare… those other routes are often jammed up during the normal commute, now imagine adding everyone who would usually use the Bay Bridge… yikes!

    I am on the way out the door now, I hope regular driving in the city isn’t all messed up too. I was going to hop on the freeway to get to a different part of town but now I’m thinking I’d better just use surface routes.

    Erica: you made some great points in your baseball post, but I figured it was an imposter since you mentioned Johnny Damon in particular didn’t have good numbers vs. Cliff Lee.

    I would say he’s due!

  117. pat October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    GB

    It does seem too easy a solution.

    My dad had been complaining about him pulling too many pitches all summer and thought the widened stance was to keep him more up the middle. It seems now that it did that and so much more.

  118. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    KF
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
    At this point in the “who should catch AJ debate”, I really dont care if they stick the bat boy behind the plate so long as we win.

    ****

    I can volunteer to catch, but I can’t guarantee the ball will actually land in my glove. And if there is a play at the plate and a guy is running full speed towards me I’d probably start crying. Okay, who am I kidding? I’d love it

  119. MG October 27th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Betsy
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    MG, I did forget that Andy faced the Phils as recently as a couple of years ago. Worry too much? I’ve no doubt……..however, I also think there are people that are overly confident and don’t respect the Phillies enough
    ———————————
    Guess what-it has no bearing on the outcome of the games at all because the Yankees take every game seriously, right?

  120. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Trivia Time.

    No cheating and I don’t know the answer, but what are the top 5 teams for World Series appearances?

    -Yankees
    -Cardinals
    -Red Sox
    -Cubs
    -Braves (

  121. Betsy October 27th, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Ray, the day I don’t worry is the day the Earth spins off it’s axis. As Randy has said, my worrying has gotten the Yankees this far…….I just have to keep it going for another week and a half or so.

    Well, I’m coming home from vacation tomorrow. Here’s hoping to good weather and a win. Good night!

  122. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    Nick in SF
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Erica: you made some great points in your baseball post, but I figured it was an imposter since you mentioned Johnny Damon in particular didn’t have good numbers vs. Cliff Lee.

    ******

    Your thinking was logical. However, you will also notice that i didn’t give the exact numbers. I just sort of glossed over the situation in a very Erica way

  123. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 27th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    You want it.. you’ve got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    21 hours and 48 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!!!!!!
    (Erica delivers in the clutch!)
    ***********************
    Yay! That was very clutch! :D

  124. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    “Have you seen the “Fan for Life” stories at NYT Bats blog?”

    iii, I haven’t. What is it?

  125. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Betsy
    You said the same think about the Angels and look what happened. Now you are scared of the Phillies. What team are you not scared of ?

    Thank god your not a player because you would be scared to show up to the ballpark no matter which team you faced, lol.

    The Yankees are better than the Phillies and you can be scared all you want but when it is all said and done the Phillies will be done.

  126. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Unbelievable.

    The same boring, paranoid analysis from that poster who shall remain nameless. Don’t want to mention any names, last time this person blew a gasket!

    Our opponent is scary. We have no advantages. I can list the weaknesses of all our players. I don’t “trust” fill-in-the-blank.

    It was the same thing for the Twins and the Angels (and the Sox during the regular season), why should it be any different for the Phillies?

  127. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    KF,

    I think I told trisha “Yankees in no more than 5″ and “Yankees in no more than 7″ . Something like that. I guess she knows me better than I do. :)

  128. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Damon may have slight problems against Cliff Lee but he murders Spike, Bill Spaceman, and Robert E. – so it all evens out.

  129. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    1. Yankees
    2. Cardinals
    3. Red Sox
    4. Cubs
    5. Tigers

  130. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    m,

    Sounds like you know how to hedge a bet:)

  131. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    sorry- the Yankees put pressure on the Twins and the Angels which lead to them making mistakes. The Angels were a good team. They had a scary lineup with some good pitching.

    The Angels pitching is better than the Phillies and there offense has better numbers than the Phillies. If you don’t believe me check out the stats. The only area they are better than the Angels are in homeruns.

  132. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    The following prediction is based solely on Erica’s excellent analysis of the Yankees vs. Phillies staff ace Cliff Lee.

    Trisha,

    Put me down for Yankees in 4.

  133. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
    The following prediction is based solely on Erica’s excellent analysis of the Yankees vs. Phillies staff ace Cliff Lee.

    *****

    Thank you Bronx Jeers!!!!

  134. iiicollies October 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Trish

    It’s where you can enter, on the NYT Bats blog, your story on how you became a Yankee fan for life.

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ref=sports

  135. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    Mel, actually you mentioned 4. I don’t remember the exact terminology but I can find it for you. If you didn’t mean 4 I’m happy to change it to whatever you want!

  136. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    I promised myself in the absense of Yankee baseball I would get in bed before midnight tonight. So…..

    Good night Yankee people!!!!

  137. MikeBoston October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    The only take away I got from this is that there is a man named Dick Pole, wow…

  138. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    m,

    Yankees: 39
    Cardinals: 17
    Red Sox: 11
    Cubs: 10
    Tigers: 10

  139. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Bronx, you got it. Miggs, I need yours.

    iii, I’ll have to take a look at that. It sounds like a very sweet site.

  140. DT - OPPC member October 27th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Good night Erica. Don’t forget to set your Yankee clock in the morning.

  141. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    trisha,

    it doesn’t matter. as long as we win. ;)

  142. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    KF,

    Thanks. I was in the car and it was the top 5 at 5 question.

  143. KF October 27th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    it doesn’t matter. as long as we win. ;)

    Self sacrificing just like a true yankee!

  144. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Trisha I’m a little discouraged knowing I can’t win because I missed the first round (where participants were able to accumulate the most points).

    What the heck… Yankees in 6.

  145. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    miggs – GTLU Reigning Champion

    Let me guess- Betsy ?

    She is afraid of every team the Yankees face. I have never seen a fan who get scared like her.

    Betsy you act like every team is great and the Yankees suck. Why are you even a fan of the Yankees ?

  146. GreenBeret7 October 27th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    pat
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
    GB

    It does seem too easy a solution.

    My dad had been complaining about him pulling too many pitches all summer and thought the widened stance was to keep him more up the middle. It seems now that it did that and so much more.

    ————————————————————

    Whatever he’s changed and he can keep it for the next few games and for te remainder of his career, but, at least for the next ten days, he’s going to be a nightmare for pitchers. Right now, he can pull, hit up the middle and right to right field….all with tremendous power. Even worse for pitchers, he’s walking, stealing bases and not striking out. I imagine there are pitchers everywhere, curled up in little balls, crying for their mommies.

  147. randy l. October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    i’m starting a new business buying up really bad pitcher’s contracts who are undervalued because they just haven’t met the right catcher.

    i will line them up with the right catcher whose contract i will also buy cheap and sell them both in a package deal to a mlb team to be the fifth starter and back up catcher.

    these pitchers are undervalued assets who just need the right undervalued catcher to bring out the best in them.

    billy beane looked for fat guys who walked a lot. i’ll be looking for pitchers who ideally throw hard but don’t think a lot and have a sensitive side .

    i’m going to call it catcherball.

  148. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    miggs,

    I don’t think you gave your opponents enough respect. :P

  149. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Jeremy you have no idea… she can’t stand me. I criticize her posts (for good reason every time) and she gets SO annoyed.

    I’ve been called everything from “obsessive” to “compulsive” to my personal favorite “a middle aged man” even though I wasn’t aware that I had entered that phase of my life quite yet.

  150. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    File this under “S” for Skanky:

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....phans.html

  151. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    mel – this is the one. I want you to make the choice, I don’t want to make the choice for you.

    *************************************

    m
    October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
    Just getting caught up. When does daylight savings change? We don’t do that here, but one of the alarm clocks fell back one hour.

    That “old lady” is probably CC’s mother. If you notice, the people to her left are wearing championship hats.

    Andy tipping his hat to the crowd with his back, showing just his jersey number was so moving. I don’t know why. That man just amazes me. He’s been around the block and back. A few times over.

    Trisha, I don’t know what kind of contest you’re running. Just do the standard for me please. Yankees in at least 4 games.

    ****************************************

    Posters can also change their predictions any time til first pitch.

  152. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Mel-

    Good one. I’m definitely guilty as charged!

    Randy you know exactly what you’re doing with that post…. tsk tsk.

  153. m October 27th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Thanks, Trisha. So as long as we win, I win, too. At least 4 could be 4 games. Or 5, or 6, or 7. :P

  154. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    miggs – GTLU Reigning Champion

    LOL ! I guess she gets like that when people don’t agree with her. She was worried about the Twins and the Angels and the Yanks beat them. Now she is worried about the Phillies. And she gives no credit to the Yankees when the Yankees are a really good team.

    She must have been scared even in 1998 when the Yankees faced the Padres, lol.

  155. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 27th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Jeremy its really annoying.

    Its an old, tired act that has no ending. I try and ignore most of the nonsense but sometimes I just can’t resist.

  156. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    mel, you are exactly right. I read it quickly the first time and put 4.

    If you want it changed just let me know. Actually I’m disappointed in myself that I didn’t go with sweep. I admire that Bronx did. I just figured that they should win at least one game.

    I still have time to change it but I think I need to go the more conservative route and go 5.

    :)

  157. Jeremy October 28th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    miggs – GTLU Reigning Champion
    Yeah it’s best to ignore it. I tried to as well but I couldn’t.

  158. randy l. October 28th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    “Randy you know exactly what you’re doing with that post…. tsk tsk.”

    guilty as charged :)

  159. The Ghost October 28th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    MikeBoston October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    The only take away I got from this is that there is a man named Dick Pole, wow…

    _________

    I can imagine Manual calling his pitching coach over to him after a visit to the mound. “Dick Pole, give it to me straight, should we stick it out with this kid or is he someone you can stand behind for another inning?”

  160. Bronx Jeers October 28th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    Livan might not qualify as a hard thrower who just needs the right catcher but what about if you pair him with a catcher with really good cooking skills?

    Livan finds himself in trouble?

    A quick trip to the mound with a possible post game menu if only he can get out of the inning.

  161. Buddy Biancalana October 28th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    I can imagine Manual calling his pitching coach over to him after a visit to the mound. “Dick Pole, give it to me straight, should we stick it out with this kid or is he someone you can stand behind for another inning?”

    ——————————————————–

    Excellent Nick in SF impersonation!

  162. QUESTION (SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER) October 28th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Anyone know if the Jay-z alicia keys performance will be televised?

  163. no.27 October 28th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    I read it would be on fox at 7:30

  164. Imback October 28th, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Betsy needs help. I used to ridicule her but not anymore. Any adult that posts negative depressing thoughts 24/7 on a blog about the best team in baseball while on vacation with their parents is seriously in need of therapy. I hope she talks to someone when she comes home.

  165. Nick in SF in Daly City October 28th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    Holy Crap! LoHud Yankee numeroligists may recall that I was blessed with ticket #27 when I saw the great indie rock band Yo La Tengo during the ALCS.

    Well, I’m at the In-N-Out Burger in Daly City (about which the less said the better) and… shockingly… I am guest #27 on my receipt. I know! Too crazy!

    Destiny cannot be denied.

  166. Jeremy October 28th, 2009 at 1:10 am

    Imback
    Betsy does need some help. She is so negative about the Yankees. You would think she hates the Yankees by the way she talks about them.

  167. m October 28th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Picture or it didn’t happen. Hold up the place if you have to, to get the ticket back.

    Good article on Girardi.

    “They’re 7-2,” an American League scout said of the Yankees. “When would we look at these clubs during the season on a 7-2 run over nine games and look for reasons to butcher the manager? It just doesn’t happen. To an extent, we all want to overanalyze a little bit.”

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4599329

  168. Buddy Biancalana October 28th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Nick-

    You better down 27 burgers then & don’t forget the Krispy Kremes right next door.

  169. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 28th, 2009 at 1:16 am

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    First its the carne asada burritos, now In-N-Out…did you get your burgers animal style?

  170. Mehdi in SF October 28th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    Nick that’s crazy! I had 27 tacos at the Taco shop this month. I was gonna have another but it fell on the floor. Hmmmm. DESTINO!!

  171. Nick in SF in Daly City October 28th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    m (if I’m allowed to address you directly again), a picture of my guest ticket was of course taken and will be posted to my flickr page in due time.

    It just occurred to me, though, that I might be just as excited about ticket #27 if I was a Phillies fan, as that’s the number of cheesesteaks that John Kruk ate today.

    miggs, I don’t like onions much, so no animal style, but I did get pickles.

    Buddy, I might just hit up that Krispy Kreme, but 27 donuts??? I want to make it home alive tonight… maybe three donuts in honor of the number of innings I expect Pedro to last in game two.

  172. Mehdi in SF October 28th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    Bay Area crew where are you watching the game on Saturday? Aces? I think I’m gonna go there. I’ll either be in a great mood or a crappy mood depending on the result of th Arsenal v Scum game in the morning.

  173. m October 28th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Nick,

    Will scrutinize it for authenticity.

    And I never told you couldn’t address me. I wrote something totally innocuous and not even addressed to you. And you came back with something like “you almost got me” and a winky emoticon.

    So, I simply said if what I say bugs you so much just bypass my (copious amounts of) posts. And IIRC I attached a sincere smiley emoticon myself.

    Anyway, tango or tangle it’s always fun.

  174. Nick in SF in Daly City October 28th, 2009 at 1:33 am

    I see. You might be forgetting a bit.

    Mehdi, Aces could be a good call, though it might be a zoo all around the city due to Halloween. The real question is, where are you watching the Arsenal game? It’s a super-early one, no?

  175. Buddy Biancalana October 28th, 2009 at 1:42 am

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  176. m October 28th, 2009 at 1:42 am

    Channel surfing and just happpened to catch Jeter give some pretty lame rules for the challenge. Number of balls in the field=number of hits. When 316 (career batting avg) are thrown at a contestant’s likeness then that person’s out. I’m sure he got a big 24 Hour Fitness bonus for doing that video.

  177. Bo Knows October 28th, 2009 at 2:11 am

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    In that picture, you could see Joe G was tickled pink, that grimacing smile.

    Personally I’d hold him down and shave his head.

  178. Jon October 28th, 2009 at 2:45 am

    They did it guys! Our Yanks are back in the series….4 to go and they can do it! Let’s go out and make a statement tonight..God bless the Yankees!!!

  179. Mehdi also in SF October 28th, 2009 at 3:01 am

    Nick,

    I’m watching the Arsenal game at Danny Coyles on Haight at Pierce. It is super early. 5:45am KO, but what can I do. It’s a sickness. Aces, might be a zoo, but I think it would be the only place in the city that a Yankee fan might not get drowned out in. Kezar will be full of Philly fans and the Marina is Red Sux territory.

  180. no.27 October 28th, 2009 at 5:14 am

    I was thinking about the WS rotation…

    If the Yankees are up 3-0 and Cliff Lee is pitching game 4, it might make more sense to pitch Gaudin in game 4. Then, if the Yankees don’t win game 4, you have CC on regular rest pitching against Pedro in game 5.

  181. Dano in England October 28th, 2009 at 5:54 am

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    Good to see that the crazy late nights I indulge in for my Yankee sickness (4.15am finish Sun/Mon) are replicated by you guys over there for the mighty gooners.

    I’ll be at the Arsenal game.

  182. JR October 28th, 2009 at 7:11 am

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  183. hobbie October 28th, 2009 at 7:57 am

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    Some folks though we’d get away
    Take a Holiday from the neighborhood
    Hop a Flight out to Disneyland
    Play the series in the Angel’s hood

    But I’m stuck here in traffic
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    I root for a team that’s named for a female horse.
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  184. Doreen October 28th, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Good morning all.

    Spent yesterday reading “Twilight” and occasionally browsing the blog – lurking, if you will. :lol: Figured there’s not much more to say about AJ/Posada/Molina – it’s all been said many times and when you have nothing to add to the conversation, it’s best just to sit back and “enjoy” the back-and-forth-and-back-and-forth (and back and forth!). :)

    Chad -

    Thanks for posting that story in its entirety! You know, so far I have “liked” all the managers on the opposing teams the Yankees have faced in the playoffs. It’s getting a little annoying. Just once, I’d like to have had the team face a manager that we could really “hate,” you know??? :lol:

    That Jimmy Rollins is a funny guy. :)

    I’m just hoping the weather stays playable.

    I think if they end up having to use Chad Gaudin, Gaudin is going to do fine. Not great, but not bad, either.

    Uncle E -

    I saw your comment yesterday wondering about whether I had a Phillies fan in my house. No – there are Mets fans in the family, and our houseguests who just left on Sunday are San Diego fans. But no Phillies fans. :)

    This WS has potential to be one of the best ones in a long time. Two very equally matched teams with a ton of talent and passionate fans. This is beginning to feel like the Yankees’ year, but I won’t get ahead of myself there, because “anything can happen” in baseball. As in the last two series, the team that makes the fewest mistakes will come out on top.

    The Yankees are in the World Series!!!!!!

  185. Fran (the original) and OPPC member October 28th, 2009 at 8:11 am

    It is raining now but hopefully the sun will be shining on the Yankees. Rain is supposed to be over by 6PM.

    Let’s go Yankees :)

  186. Doreen October 28th, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Rain has been the Yankees “friend” this season. Always there. :)

  187. upstate kate October 28th, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Doreen
    any WS theme meals planned?

  188. Doreen October 28th, 2009 at 8:26 am

    I think I wrote here a couple of days ago that my mom and dad just bought a permanent residence in Florida and the address is 2705. My mom is taking that as an omen that the Yankees will win #27 in 5 games.

    Then yesterday morning she said she had a dream that she was in her current home in Florida (they’re not moving until mid-November) and Alex Rodriguez was there for dinner. She reminded him of the 27 in 5 and then invited him for dinner in her new house after they move. Then my dad woke her up and she was not happy about it! :)

  189. Imback October 28th, 2009 at 8:26 am

    First day of WS and no new posts? Cmon guys. It’s been great till now. I detested Pete but he was one guy and had posts up when it counted. Jeez. Get your acts together.

  190. Doreen October 28th, 2009 at 8:28 am

    upstate kate -

    No, I think I’ll leave well enough alone! :lol:

    Just no Philly Cheesesteaks on the menu. (Maybe NY Cheesecake, though! :) )

  191. Doreen October 28th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    Imback-

    Pete often didn’t have the first post of the day up until 9 a.m. Chill. :)

  192. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 28th, 2009 at 8:37 am

    Morning all! Off to a day-long CLE (no cheering necessary.) Imback I’m trust you to keep everyone on the up and up today. I know you’ll do it. :)

    Here’s my new lucky picture for the last day at the old Stadium. I waited until today to put it up. Best day and night of my life (bittersweet though it was.) We were waiting to go to Monument Park – waiting 4 and 1/2 hours to go to Monument Park! But we had a blast.

    Here’s the latest update to the chart. I’ll take predictions (or changes to predictions) up until first pitch – whenever that may be. Please put my name in the post so I don’t miss it. I’ll check all the threads when I get back in.

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/POSTSEASON.pdf

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    thanks. I am a bit amped. Hopefully the yanks play hard and smart and even if they get swept it’ll be all right. I know they have been great to watch as opposed to 2002-07 when I’d be screaming at torre to wake up!

    Have fun this week

    ps Tricia- unfortunately I can only come on here via iPhone so it’s hard to do all the statistical refutations I would like but I’ll try. I just hope gaudin makes the postseason roster this round.

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