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Pedro to start Game 2 for Phillies

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Charlie Manuel announced on a radio show this morning that Pedro Martinez will be his Game 2 starter, a move which should make for terrific theater and unbelievable amounts of second-guessing if it doesn’t work out.

Even though Cole Hamels is struggling, Manuel could have made the easy choice by going with last year’s World Series star behind Cliff Lee. Instead, he’s picking Martinez, who will hear “Who’s your Daddy?” chants all night long and made his only other postseason start in weather conditions that were 20 degrees warmer than what he figures to face in the Bronx.

Martinez is 8-4 with a 2.95 ERA in 16 career starts in the Bronx with four complete games. He is 1-2 with a 4.72 ERA in six postseason appearances against the Yankees, and is 0-2 with a 5.93 ERA in his past five.

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222 Responses to “Pedro to start Game 2 for Phillies”

  1. Josh October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    This is a brilliant idea…for the Yanks.

  2. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Christina- Enjoyed the pictures, especially the one of the back of the cameraman. Hope you have some recourse.

    Yankees had great starting pitching and defense in the last series, and if their offense lives up to its caspabilities, along with Aceves and Hughes, all of which underperformed against the Angels we should be fine.

    Question? If there are any rainouts, doesn’t MLB still allow the travel day, even giving the close proximity of NY to Philly? If so a rainout could allow us to stay with a 3 man rotation especially if it’s Game 4 on November 1st.

  3. Patti October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    I would love to see Pedro humiliated in the new Yankee Stadium.
    I wonder if he would hit Jeter or Cano this time?

  4. Bill from NJ October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    This should backfire.

  5. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    This could be interesting.

  6. Alexxxx October 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    I really hope that Fox isn’t lame and turns down the crowd audio. Yankee Stadium should be absolutely relentless towards Pedro. Ahhhh just like old times!

  7. Coach6423 October 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    “I guess I just have to tip my cap, and call the Yankees my daddy…”

  8. ditmars1929 October 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Awww, sonny boy is coming back to the Bronx to get his fanny spanked. That’s so touching.

  9. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Yankee Trader: Thanks. I am taking some action today, for the hope they will do something for the rest of the series. I feel really bad for people holding these tickets for the World Series. Especially since they have no clue that a big cameraman is blocking their view of half the field. I can only imagine how much $$ those tickets will be

    pat: Thanks for the info! I did get an A in the gambling course I took at college, but somehow had no clue what “field” meant. Though I do have it figured out how to bet on a horse.

  10. gregori October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    all the more reason to start pettitte in game 2.
    not only to gather the greatest drama but to allow our best pitchers to pitch 3xs & 2xs respectively.
    cc piches games 1, 4 & 7.
    4 & 7 would be 3 days rest.
    andy pitches games 1 & 6.
    6 on 5 days rest which has been shown to be a huge plus for him.
    aj pitches game 3 and gaudin game 5.
    does anyone really want to see the inconsistent aj pitch against that lineup more than once?
    above rotation allows pettitte to pitch both games at the stadium where he has finally figured out how to pitch vs the beginning of the year.

  11. ray (sox fan) October 27th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Certainly Pedro is not the dominant pitcher he was a number of years ago, and I honestly think the Yankees will defeat him in game two.

    At the same time, don’t underestimate him. He will be very motivated to pitch well. In game two against the Dodgers he pitched seven scoreless innings, allowed only two hits, and no runs. The Dodgers ended up losing the game but through no fault of Pedro’s.

  12. Borat October 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    This is music to my ears.

  13. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Fox is lame. ” Voted Worst Baseball Announcer by fans everywhere” McCarver played for the Phillies his last 6 years, and for three other seasons before. Count on the bias against the Yankees to continue!

  14. kd October 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am

    i would suggest that jeter wear a little extra padding. pedro’s gonna be back to his old ‘tricks’

  15. PaulF October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    With CC in game one and facing Pedro in Game 2, the Yankees better win both of these home games.

  16. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Say what you will about Pedro, but his games against the Yankees, good or bad, are never boring.

    I’m going to try to find a video of the 8th inning in 2003 and play it over and over.

  17. Laura - Bring on PHI! October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    If the Yankees don’t beat the crap out of him, they should be ashamed of themselves.

  18. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    gregori-
    Your math is off. You probably meant Pettitte pitches Game 2, which only gives him 3 days rest since his last outing Sunday night.

  19. vin October 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    My head tells me 4 IP, 4 ER.
    But my heart says 7 IP, 1 ER.

    Should be great theater, nonetheless.

  20. Yankee Trader October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Can anyone tell me if any team in the WS, with the current format of 2-3-2, ever went with a 3 man rotation, and did they win, so I can look it up?

  21. gusb October 27th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Jeter’s definitely not a leg man.

    MOOOOOOO!!!!!

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/.....-kelly.jpg

  22. Patrick October 27th, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Hahaha thanks Charlie!

  23. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    has the officiating crew been announced for the series, or will it change for each game?

  24. Erin October 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    This promises to be a very interesting game. :)

  25. AMS223 October 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Well, it looks like we have another enrique Wilson on our hands…Jerry Hairston has .370 .433 .519 in 27 at bats against pedro. Meanwhile Cano is 0-12 against him…I probably wouldnt do it, but its definitely a thought

  26. Jeloij; both gritty AND gutty October 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    So I’ve got $15 against a yankee hater that the yankees take it, and another $10 against an overly optimistic yankeefan that the series will go at least 6 games. I’ll def be coming home in the green, but I feel confident I’m winning the whole thing

  27. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    So.

    How long before Pedro beans Jeter and Alex?

  28. gregori October 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    yankee trader,
    you’re so right.
    i knew something there was too good to be true.

  29. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    AMS223
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
    Well, it looks like we have another enrique Wilson on our hands…Jerry Hairston has .370 .433 .519 in 27 at bats against pedro. Meanwhile Cano is 0-12 against him…I probably wouldnt do it, but its definitely a thought
    =====

    Do what???

  30. BJ October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Play Hairston in place of Cano

  31. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    The only highlight of Game 7, 2004 (besides throwing Damon out at the plate) was Pedro trying to give us the game back. :D

  32. MFC October 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Hey Sam & Chad – Just so you know the Search this Blog feature is broken. It gives you a java error when any character is entered.

    Can anyone help me find the posts about the charity week the yankees had done. Some stupid boston friends of mine are claiming that they yankees never give back to the community and I want to prove them wrong.

  33. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    BJ
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    Play Hairston in place of Cano
    ====

    I was daring the poster to come back with that answer. You spoiled it.

  34. Free Mike Vick October 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    this should be fun! :)

  35. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Well, now I am really sad I am going to miss game 2 :-(

  36. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    MFC
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    Hey Sam & Chad – Just so you know the Search this Blog feature is broken. It gives you a java error when any character is entered.

    Can anyone help me find the posts about the charity week the yankees had done. Some stupid boston friends of mine are claiming that they yankees never give back to the community and I want to prove them wrong.

    *****

    Why don’t you do a search on Yankees.com? Hope week was really well documented

  37. Mark in Tampa October 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    I don’t Pedro is going to hit anybody intentionally. This game will be too important to be playing little games like that. Besides, Karim Garcia is not on the Yankees anymore. If anybody gets hit, it will be because he tried to come inside and doesn’t have the control he used to.

  38. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    There was a stretch there of Pedro/Mussina games where Moose pitched great and we’d either eke out a run to beat a brilliant Pedro or wait him out.

    Great, great pitching duels.

  39. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    MFC

    Here is one blog post Pete did about HOPE week. I am sure there were several others he wrote too. All I could find in a minute though.
    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....your-team/

  40. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    31 hours and 46 minutes until Game 1!!!!!!

  41. BJ October 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Sorry!!!! :{

  42. JohnC October 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Erica

    Why are you gonna miss game 2?

  43. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    i would suggest that jeter wear a little extra padding. pedro’s gonna be back to his old ‘tricks’

    ==========

    He no longer throws 96 mph heaters. Im not worried about our team getting hit by him.

    I do have to say though. Im a little worried just because he’s become an El Duque lite pitcher in the end of his career. Where he throws so much slow junk that hitters tend to over swing and get themselves out. Lets hope the Yanks stay patient and not let his emotions get the best of them.

  44. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    JohnC
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    Erica

    Why are you gonna miss game 2?

    ******

    I am going to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert at the Garden that night. Poor planning. But I couldn’t turn down an amazing concert like that,

    I am considering DVR but I have a bad DVR track record

  45. AK October 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    I am so psyched for this

  46. Mark in Tampa October 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    Didn’t the Diamondbacks go 3 man in 2001? Schilling started 3 games, Johnson started 2 games. They may have used 2 different starters for the other 2 games though. I know Brian Anderson started one of them, don’t remember the other. So, they may have used the approach that has been discussed with Gaudin in game 5.

  47. S.o.S.(Being Champs is a Yankee birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    If we had to shut down one player on the phillies. Who would that be?

  48. Mike October 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    If we had to shut down one player on the phillies. Who would that be?-

    Victorino or Werth . . can’t let the sub par guys beat us .

    Rollins Ibenez and Howard will be hard enough to “hold” down . can’t let the other guys get involved also.

  49. DB October 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    If this doesn’t put all the Mets fans on our side, nothing will.

  50. David Cone's Camera Face October 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    did john minko just choke to death there on wfan?

  51. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    S.o.S.(Being Champs is a Yankee birth right)
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    If we had to shut down one player on the phillies. Who would that be?

    ******

    I can’t choose. Either Rollins, Victorino or Utley. They are the big 3 and they all bat before Howard. You don’t want men on when he comes up

  52. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Mark in Tampa-

    Both Schilling and Johnson were indestructible in the CC mode. I’m not sure AJ and Andy are cut from quite the same cloth, so to speak.

  53. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Im thinking Werth. Just because we might have to pitch around Howard and the last thing we need is Werth to stay hot and make us pay for it.

  54. Mark in Tampa October 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Pedro in game 2 seems like such a bad move for the Phillies that it has me worried a bit. Do they know something we don’t? Or is he just their best option?

    This move may actually tell us more about Hamels and the Phils lack of confidence in him, than it does about Pedro. I think Hamels is worse on the road this year, may be injured, and has not pitched all that well lately. Because, if he is right, he is clearly their second best pitcher, not all that far behind Lee. And you don’t worry about whether to pitch a guy like that anywhere if he is going good. Particularly a lefty in YS.

  55. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Has anyone considered that when Game 1 starts on Wednesday will also be a week since the Phillies have played a game.

    Resting is good, but at what point do you maybe lose some of that sharpness.

    The 2007 Rockies come to mind. They had a massive tear just to make the playoffs and steamrolled everyone in the paths enroute to the Series. Then they had a week of rest and played terribly, getting swept.

  56. JZ October 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    NYC weather is miserable, again
    It just sucks

  57. DB October 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Erica, I’m severely disappointed in your choice of venues. If they lose, I’m blaming it entirely on you.

    It’s bad enough I’m going to be at work at first pitch and won’t have my sweatshirt on.

    I’m going to have to wear my sweatshirt and sweatpants under my dress shirt and slacks now to offset the negative karma.

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is going to look?

  58. Mark in Tampa October 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Wave your hat,

    I know, I was answering YT’s question on whether any team has gone 3 man in the 2-3-2 format. But, I think AJ is capable, not so sure about Andy at this point in his career.

  59. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    What does Pedro throw nowadays? I know he’s looked good, but so have Smoltz, Penny, and Padilla after thoroughly sucking in the AL this season.

    One thing I know is that Pedro won’t shut us down for 7 innings.

    What’s his longest outing? He hasn’t been getting regular work since joining the Phillies.

    Anyway, no-lose prop for Manuel. They won’t be favored in a road game anyway. Can’t believe Hamels has fallen this far. He can suck at home, too. That’s a big mystery.

  60. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    DB
    October 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    Erica, I’m severely disappointed in your choice of venues. If they lose, I’m blaming it entirely on you.

    It’s bad enough I’m going to be at work at first pitch and won’t have my sweatshirt on.

    I’m going to have to wear my sweatshirt and sweatpants under my dress shirt and slacks now to offset the negative karma.

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is going to look?

    ******

    I am sorry!!!! This was a very selfish and poorly planned move on my part. I am actually sad I am missing the game.

    The worst part… I tried to convince my friends to go back to Atlantic City to watch the Series with me this weekend (since it went so well for ALCS Game 2) and they said no!

  61. randy l. October 27th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    “Who would you use for AJ’s 2nd start if he doesn’t pitch well in his 1st? There really isn’t a viable option, Gaudin has barely pitched.”

    upstate kate-

    hopefully aj pitches well in his first game and doesn’t create a pattern that makes a change necessary.

    i think the jury is still out if aj can find his release point under pressure. the last game didn’t do anything to inspire confidence, but it could have just been a bad game. two bad games in a row probably isn’t just bad games.

    it would depend on the who is ahead and who is behind in the series. game five is at philly and followed by a day off. burnett could start on three days rest or gaudin could start and go three innings followed by aceves, joba, hughes, rivera etc.

    this of course depends on if any of these relievers were used the day before with CC pitching on three days rest. he’s not likely going 8 innings on three days rest, but you never know .

    so there will be a lot of variables for aj’s second start. pettitte could go in a game 6 on three days rest. actually i figure that is his start at this point. if burnett pitches well in his first start, i think he’ll get game five on three days rest.

    then pettitte would get a start in game with three days rest. you’d think he has to have two starts in this series. i’ve read the stats on the blog that he’s not as good shorter rest, but i’d take pettitte any day over gaudin or a bad burnett in a game 6 in the world series.

    the options and variables will be less as the first four games play out.
    that’s why i think girardi will have to leave his options open for game 5 and game 6.

  62. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    I would normally say Utley and Ibanez. Latter hits lefties better than righties, and his slug & OPS plus is better vs. them.

    That’s a bat you want to keep in the ballpark, especially at Yankee Stadium.

    I’d also say Utley, since he’s another LHB who hits lefties. His numbers dipped a great deal in the NLCS after he went nuts in the first round. Supposedly, he he’s hurting physically, so maybe that explains it – tough to say with these small sample sizes that are the playoffs.

    They’re both dangerous in their way. There was something about Ibanez playing through an abdominal pull also, which he may have offseason surgery for.

  63. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    randy l,

    What if CC or Andy have a bad first game? Will you sit them?

  64. vin October 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    “Didn’t the Diamondbacks go 3 man in 2001? Schilling started 3 games, Johnson started 2 games. They may have used 2 different starters for the other 2 games though. I know Brian Anderson started one of them, don’t remember the other. So, they may have used the approach that has been discussed with Gaudin in game 5.”

    Brian Anderson started game 3. Miguel Batista started game 5.

    Schilling-RJ-Anderson-Schilling-Batista-RJ-Schilling
    that’s akin to the:
    CC-AJ-Andy-CC-Gaudin-AJ-CC scenario.

  65. vb03 October 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    This is good for the Yanks, as they have detailed scouting reports on both Cliff Lee and Pedro. On the other hand, the Phillies haven’t seen A.J. Burnett since his days in Florida.

  66. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    So i need some advice. My son plays pop warner football and its tues wedn and thurs. Im the one who takes him on those days. The problem is most of these games are being played on the same day and time. He plays both ways and is one of the main players on the team and are playing playoff teams these next 2 weeks. Do i

    a. take him to practice and listen on the radio after a 6 year drought?

    b. Have him skip a few practices as he is a Yankee fan as well and would understand.

    c.?

  67. vin October 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Just looking at game 6 of the ’01 WS, it’s amazing that the DBacks scored 15 runs without hitting a HR. I guess they didn’t need it since Andy was tipping his pitches.

  68. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    SoS,

    Drop him off, and ask some pretty soccer mom to bring him home for you.

  69. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Whoa! Just saw that Johjima will get $21M over 4 years in Japan. Good move.

  70. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    lol mel. Im sure my jealous and protective of her kids wife would understand. Im the biggest Yankee fan there is,but is it worth a divorce. Hmmm??

  71. vin October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    “On the other hand, the Phillies haven’t seen A.J. Burnett since his days in Florida.”

    They saw him on May 22, 2009.

    http://www.baseball-reference......5220.shtml

    Bad AJ pitched that game.

  72. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    crazy piece of info

    JStark: If the series goes 6 or 7 games each team will have 17 days off just in the postseason…they get 20 days off total for rest of yr

  73. vb03 October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    m October 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    SoS,

    Drop him off, and ask some pretty soccer mom to bring him home for you.

    ————————————-

    Drop him off, and ask him to bring home some pretty soccer mom.

    Ah, word rearranging is fun :D

  74. vb03 October 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    vin October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    “On the other hand, the Phillies haven’t seen A.J. Burnett since his days in Florida.”

    They saw him on May 22, 2009.

    http://www.baseball-reference……5220.shtml

    Bad AJ pitched that game.

    —————————–

    Good catch. Bad miss by me. :D

    Good AJ and Bad AJ switches in between innings. Always a roller coaster with that dude.

  75. vin October 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    SoS,

    Option C: Teach son to drive himself to practice.
    Option D: Buy son a bus pass.
    ;)

    Have you asked him what he wants to do?

  76. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    SoS,

    Well, then drop him off and ask your jealous (why?) wife to pick him up. Who wears the pants in your house?

  77. SCX October 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    The rotation is easy. Game 1 CC, 2 AJ, 3 Andy, 4 CC. Done, series over. :-)

  78. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    How close is Pedro to his Met days? If I recall when ever we saw him we hit him pretty good.

  79. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Hamels is far superior at home. They’re passing up having a lefty pitcher against a power-hitting left-handed lineup in a park that favors them…that says a lot.

  80. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Have your son ride the bike home from practice.

    I am of course just kidding. Maybe he can hail a cab.

  81. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Drop him off, and ask him to bring home some pretty soccer mom.

    Ah, word rearranging is fun

    =========

    That reminds me of how he was such a hot chick magnet when he was around 2. Boy those times where fun. Anyone else miss those days?

    Let me just finish the rearranging game.

    Drop him off and pick up some pretty soccer mom to watch the yankees game with me. Yes just watch the game.

  82. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    randy l

    Thanks, you are right, there are too many variables to predict at this point. I don’t know enough about Gaudin to be confident about him in a pressure situation, altho I am not so confident w/ AJ either.
    I think Girardi was wise to give AJ the 2nd/5th start in the ALCS so the clinching game didn’t fall to him. Hopefully it is the same for the WS.

  83. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    kate,

    The clinching game did fall to AJ in the 5th game. Did you mean it was wise not to give AJ the 7th game?

  84. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    m
    you are right of course, but it was a clinching game w/ 2 more chances. What I actually meant was I would not trust AJ w/ either the 6 or 7 game.

  85. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    vin,
    He would probably want to stay and watch the game. But what would that be teaching him? Miss work for a game on tv?

    mel,
    I think its all those football moms flurting with me(without me acknoledging it of course). Its tough being a good looking man sometimes. Cant blame her. Im protective(better word than jeoulous)as well. Its all good.

  86. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Erica, to your question regarding rest/over-rest…I imagine it can be somewhat of an issue (my hope is it throws off Lee just enough) but I don’t know that the comparison to the Rockies is a good one…the Rockies are the type of team that has to get on a streak just to have a shot at getting into the playoffs and hope the streak continues each round while the Phillies are just a solid team and have demonstrated as much by winning the series last year and getting there again this year…

  87. m October 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    kate,

    Interesting. I’d trust AJ in either game because if he got into trouble, he’d be lifted. (I realize that Girardi didn’t lift AJ after a 4-run first, but we were up 3-1 in the series. Hardly time to push the panic button).

    SoS,

    You know what’s tough? Trying to decipher your posts! “Flurting”? Is that flirting that hurts? Ouch.

  88. DB October 27th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Erica,

    Well, when I’m forced to do something when the Yanks are in the playoffs it usually works out. My wifes best friend got married the same day of that playoff game El Duque won in 98 against Cleveland. It was the turning point of the series and I had to sneak and watch parts of it from the bar off the reception.

    I also had to work as a waiter during the whole 96 playoffs. I wasn’t able to watch most of the games live. For a mid 20′s fella who lived and breathed the Yanks since being in diapers it was hard.

  89. hjcho October 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    HI Pedro, I’m Hideki Matsui! Remember me?

  90. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Hokiehill,
    I thought the same way as Erica until i found out that Phillie had a long rest period before last years World Series run. It didnt slow seem to them down. Im going to stick with good pitching will always shut down good hitting. Lets hope our pitching continues to shine. Our starters havnt lost a game yet in the playoffs.

  91. Jeremy October 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Game 2 is must see t.v.

    I don’t think Pedro will last long in Game 2.

  92. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    I think Randy makes an excellent point about AJ finding his release point under pressure.

    That’s why the whole “catcher-gate” saga with him is ridiculous.

    Fact is, AJ had two pressure innings in his last start….the first and the seventh. In both innings, he couldn’t find his release point and gave up 6 runs.

    When a team is in a 4-0 hole, there isn’t much pressure on the pitcher who put them in the deficit.

    When you have to start the game, and/or protect lead in the 7th, that’s when AJ fell apart.

    That’s a mental thing and not a catcher thing.

    He’s a rhythm pitcher and he has to learn to maintain his rhythm under pressure. Its his first post-season and that’s pretty hard to do.

    It took CC 3 post-seasons to learn to do it.

    If AJ can conquer that, the Yankees are in good shape. If not, you can’t have Molina in the lineup when he pitches again in a NL park.

    With Molina, Swisher and the pitcher batting, you are a NL lineup. Makes no sense.

    I also wouldn’t pitch Andy on 3 days rest. That makes no sense for a guy who is locked into his routine.

    Chad Gaudin isn’t the Anti-Christ. Fact is, he pitched better than Joba the last 2 1/2 months of the season.

    He’s no worse than Joe Blanton, who will see a start in this series.

    If you have to start Chad in Game 4 or Game 5, it isn’t the end of the world.

  93. Borat October 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    This is good for the Yanks, as they have detailed scouting reports on both Cliff Lee and Pedro. On the other hand, the Phillies haven’t seen A.J. Burnett since his days in Florida.
    ——————–

    Actually AJ pitched the first game of the series in May, and lost.

  94. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    my bff at it again. What makes you think i didnt purposely missspell flirting? I just finished saying that i try not to acknowledge it. I would think you would have picked up on it.

  95. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Yeah, I would agree S.o.S. Hopefully CC can be good enough to slightly edge out Lee in game 1 and the good AJ shows up for game 2 (or Pettitte maybe?)…I really would like to hold serve on our homefield and put the Phillies in an uncomfortable and unfamiliar position (seeing as they haven’t lost a game one in the post season the past 2 years)

  96. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    MFC They did some work with Tomorrows Children this year. What you need to find is the link that talks about Mr. Steinbrenner donating a TON of money to Hurricane Katrina relief funds. Not sure if it was true but I heard that the Yankees gave more money than all of the other teams combined!

  97. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Someone was asking about matchups yesterday. Here’s an interesting one. Just ignore the fact that they gave the edge to Howard. And that they put Swisher’s picture in the CF position.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

  98. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    “That’s a mental thing and not a catcher thing.”

    AJ’s done what he can to dispell this notion but if the catcher is part of the mental equation for AJ, then the two are related. I don’t think there is any chance that Molina catches AJ in Philly but I could see Joe still justifying that decision in NY if AJ goes in game 2…

    I agree with you on Gaudin. Like I said this morning…pitching Gaudin at worst gives you 1 game that is “at risk” vs at least 2 games if you pitch both Andy and AJ on short rest. I say pitch him and get Ace or Joba ready to throw a couple innings of relief if needed.

  99. Crawdaddy October 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Gaudin hasn’t started a game since September 28th. He’s pitched maybe 3 innings since then.

  100. Hokiehill October 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    “MFC They did some work with Tomorrows Children this year. What you need to find is the link that talks about Mr. Steinbrenner donating a TON of money to Hurricane Katrina relief funds. Not sure if it was true but I heard that the Yankees gave more money than all of the other teams combined!”

    The Yankees also gave a million to VT after the shootings there…and sent the Yankees to play a spring training game against the Hokies.

  101. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    MFC
    The Yankees also due a tremendous amount of work with Sloan Ketteren? (not sure if spelled correctly) They also worked with a school that my friend works at in NYC to put together a blood drive. I cant forget about the Christmas gift drive they run as well. Just google NY Yankees Donate and about 3 thousand pages of info should come up. Tell the RED SUX fans to learn how to read and take a few minutes to check out some of the charity work they have done!

  102. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    HOKIE HILL
    Good point I forgot about VT. They even played a charity game against VT baseball team!!!!!!!

  103. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    And Pedro is 5 years removed from pitching for Boston and upwards of 6 years removed from having his “best” stuff.

    I definitely respect the fact that he has been able to somewhat reinvent himself as a pitcher when healthy and his postseason experience and veteran savvy should serve him well, but this is a BOLD move.

    I guess we’ll wait and see how it shakes out. Definitely could make for some great theater.

    I love this time of year!

  104. gusb October 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    AJ doesn’t pitch great on the road. Maybe he was nervous in the beginning on the road. There’s 4 runs. He sat for a long time before the 7th. There’s 2 runs. I give him Molina at home hands down and no road starts.

  105. JMK aka The Overshare October 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Pedro will give a solid performance

  106. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Some interesting thought by Edes and Mota on postseason experience:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/.....B/16301793

  107. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Crawdaddy,

    If the Yankees are up 3-0 come game four, what do you think Girardi does?

    CC on short rest in an effort to close it out or take the risk with Gaudin and see if he can bring out the brooms?

    For the record, I do not believe we’ll sweep, but I do believe we can take this thing in 5 games if the stars align properly.

  108. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    mfc tell your Boston friend that the Yankees do a lot. They don’t publicize everything. To me it means more when you hear about things through the grapevine instead of them tooting their horn.

    And you know what I believe Hope Week created good karma for the team. I’m sure they will continue to do it year after year.

  109. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    MFC-
    here you go start proving those redsux fans wrong!!
    New York Yankees Support Hurricane Katrina Relief With A $1-Million gift to The Salvation Army.
    PR Newswire | September 8, 2005 | COPYRIGHT 2005 PR Newswire Association LLC. This material is published under license from the publisher through the Gale Group, Farmington Hills, Michigan. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Gale Group. (Hide copyright information) Copyright

    NEW YORK, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire/ — The Salvation Army received a $1-million check on Tuesday, September 6, from the New York Yankees in support of the organizations Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. General Secretary for The Salvation Army of Greater New York Major Guy Klemanski accepted the generous donation from Team President Randy Levine, Chief Operating Officer Lonn Trost and outfielder Matt Lawton on behalf of the New York Yankees during the pre- game ceremonies.

  110. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    I heard that those blue and white rope style necklaces that AJ JOBA and SWISHER wear were made by the hope week children and given to them as gifts.

  111. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Matt Lawton, if that isn’t a blast from the past.

  112. vin October 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    “vin,
    He would probably want to stay and watch the game. But what would that be teaching him? Miss work for a game on tv?”

    I faked a Dentist appointment so that I could go home and watch the opening ceremonies and 1st inning of the New Yankee Stadium home opener.

    It’s not like he’d be missing school. Besides, he needs to learn that baseball comes before all other sports.

    But then again, I can barely keep my dog out of trouble.

  113. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Top 10 Key players as voted on by espn “experts”

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4597236

  114. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Mr October that would be really cool if it was correct!

  115. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Well guys,

    I guess the Yankees see no problem selling tickets at the location for that insane price.

    I tried to get them to change it or at least let people know they will be obstructed but the lady on the phone didnt seem to comprehend what I was saying. She said the Yankees always identify obstructed seats on the ticket, but I told her they didnt in this case. I guess “obstructed butt” doesnt count as an obstructed seat.

    Not sure who else there is to contact. Just be careful when you spend a lot of money on these tickets, because the Yankees couldn’t care if the fans are unable to see the game. I guess I should have figured that would be case.

  116. vin October 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    MR OCTOBER,

    That would’ve been a nicer story. But I found this:
    http://nymag.com/daily/fashion.....s_are.html

    I was curious because my sister in law asked me why Joba wears that necklace. I didn’t know. Not sure if AJ’s is also the same (he’s not mentioned in the article).

  117. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Christina did you try emailing? The idiots who pick up the phone won’t do anything for you.

  118. Peter R October 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    It says rain for tomorrow….all night. Any chance they going to play?

    How long will this series go on with all the crappy weather it looks like we will have. How many times will it be CC vs Cliffster because of rain days off.

  119. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Yes, Jennifer. Nothing yet.

  120. Ninja Burglar October 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    In an NL park, what are the chances Matsui finally plays the outfield, putting Damon in RF and Swisher to the bench? The guy says he can play, it’s the end of the season, and possibly the end of Matsui’s tenure as a Yankee. If there was ever a time to let him play LF, playing in an NL park in the World Series would be it.

  121. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Since I trust Girardi and the Yanks to figure things out, I thought I’d do a drive by with the chart and a reminder that posters have up until the first pitch to get their predictions in. This is it so far:

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/WS.pdf

  122. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Christina
    great pix, too bad about your view. Are you still sleep deprived?

  123. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Oh yeah, if you want to get on the prediction chart, please put my name in the post so I can search it that way.

  124. vin October 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    “In an NL park, what are the chances Matsui finally plays the outfield, putting Damon in RF and Swisher to the bench? ”

    Barring any extreme circumstances, there’s a better chance I play the outfield than there is of Matsui in left, and noodle-arm Damon in right.

  125. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Chat with Neyer. Not bad.

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnatio.....-rob-neyer

    Baseball people (according to stark) giving the edge at every position but 3B to the Phillies. Now, in general I get worked up anyway. But I don’t Ibanez is better than Damon. I don’t think Rollins makes have the plays Jeter made this postseason that took advantage of baserunning mistakes. Tex’s glove is far superior to Ryan and has the capacity to hit for power, too. And Utley has the yips (or the hip)!

  126. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Johnny Damon has never played RF in his life and Matsui has not played a game in the OF all season.

    You don’t put an arm like Damon’s in RF.

    The World Series is not the time for experimentation.

    There is a 0% chance Girardi does that.

  127. DB October 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    That is the problem with AJ, he is a complete nut case.

    I didn’t see Molina talking him off the ledge last game and see no reason why he would prefer him. Girardi can’t had behind the fallacy of AJ pitching better to him now. AJ needs to grow a pair and stop letting the demons in his head.

    Everyone knows he is one of the most talented pitchers in the world. I even remember a study by RAB that showed AJ having the most movement on his pitches than the rest of the pitchers in baseball.

  128. Concerned_Citizen October 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    I had to do some research on the necklaces. Does anyone know if they relate to this:

    http://www.amazon.com/PHI-TEN-.....038;sr=8-3

    ??

    If so, a lot of athletes use them. Regrettably, they are not “fashionable.” :rolls eyes:

  129. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    makes *half* the plays Jeter makes. Has he always been this vocal on the infield? He must be driving the pitchers nuts.

  130. Bronx Bombers Girl October 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Good Afternoon All -

    So I have been checking on tickets to WS because I would really, really , really love to go to my first ever WS game (to cheer on the boys live and lose my voice in the process) but the likelihood of that happening is becoming slim to none! :(

    Has anyone ever had any luck in price mark downs the day of the game? There have been people @ Yankee’s Stadium waiting in line for tickets since yesterday morning @ 6 am. They don’t go on sale until tomorrow @ 9 am.

  131. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Sorry, why would Matsui be in the outfield? He can barely make it to first base.

  132. Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Joba wears a necklace that looks like a rope. I noticed a lot of them are wearing that too. Is it a different version that is made by phitan?

  133. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    2 bad plays doesn’t give anybody the yips. Its just two bad plays.

    Robinson Cano is not a better player than Chase Utley. He may be one day. He isn’t right now.

    The Phillies are a very tough team. They have a lot of grit and a lot of talent. They are every bit the Yankees equal in those departments.

    As far as head to head matchups, they are meaningless in baseball.

    This series is going to be decided by which bullpen pitches better because the chances are strong all of the games will be close.

    They were in the May series between the two teams and I suspect they will be again. Especially with the weather (cold and wet for the most part) playing such an important factor.

  134. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    So i just got back and i was listening to Colin Cowheard. He said the people who keep mentioning payroll are idiots. The top teams that profitted in 08 were the Nationals 40 mil and the Indians. The Yanks, Sox and Phillies were the bottom 3 with negative 20+ mil. Time for fans to start asking for more from their own teams and stop hating on an owner that wants to give back to his fans.

  135. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Ninja
    There is a negative chance that Matsui plays the OF. #1 he hasn’t done it all season. #2 have you seen him run to first lately? He looks like he is carrying a piano on his back.

  136. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    30 hours and 24 minutes until Game 1!!!!!

  137. Jerkface October 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Pedro throws 87-90 fastball and his signature circle change or straight change, whichever it is. In his start against the dodgers he basically threw them nothing but changeups and the dodger hitters had no idea what to do against it. A smattering of curveballs here and there as well.

    If he tries that junk against the yankees he is going to learn very quickly that this isn’t a team that gets fooled by a journeyman change. He’d pretty much have to throw his ‘best’ change every time to get them out and at this point he can’t do it.

    He got very few swings and misses against the dodgers, and thats a recipe for disaster against the yankees. You don’t want them putting your change up in play hard.

    especially a guy like Swisher, Melky, Cano. If they get their bat sped up looking change, they are going to crush one.

  138. vin October 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Concerned_Citizen,

    See my post above – http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....nt-1117211

  139. upstate kate October 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    I would guess tickets would be hard to come by, given the proximity to Philly. When we went to a game over Memorial Day weekend (the extra innings loss) there were a lot (too many) Phillie fans there.

  140. Concerned_Citizen October 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    # Christina: Pictures from Game 6 on the blog! October 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Joba wears a necklace that looks like a rope. I noticed a lot of them are wearing that too. Is it a different version that is made by phitan?

    I mean, I know they look different – but if they are just wearing them for the magnetic benefits, I can understand why. The NYT article made it seem like they were voodoo charm necklaces.

    Cool pics by the way. When I did my usual “walk around the Stadium,” at ALCS Game 2, I saw that exact seat you had with the camera guy. I tapped his shoulder and said to him, “You know you’re going to block someone’s view, right?” He just smirked at me, and kept talking to the other crew members around him. True story.

  141. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    so it looks like :cc-lee 1-4-7.

    aj-pedro 2-6…no way he throws aj on the road and he could let posada dh at home

    andy-hamels 3

    gaudin-happ/blanton….the crap shoot game.

    joe just said he doesn’t like the idea of starting guys on 3 days….not to assume he is going with 3 starters

  142. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    So after getting all of your inputs. I have decided to call my son a cab with his own money. It will get him halfway, then stand and get a bus to get you to practice. Go back home late at night on your bike. Once you get tired, hitch hike and make sure to get a ride with a pretty soccer mom. Push her out of the car and come home with a new ride for mom. Did i miss anything?

  143. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    SJ,

    Thanks for that reminder. ;)

    We actually had a conversation about this during the LCS. The thought is that the hip might be bothering Utley. Manuel finally acquiesced that Utley had some throwing problems in the NLDS, too.

    But anyway, I’m thinking (hoping), that we’ll see a difference between the two leagues in this series. I think it’s real, and I think it’ll manifest itself in this particular WS.

  144. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    it seems like he is leaning towards another pitcher(bruney) over the 3rd catcher.

  145. G. Love October 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    We can’t be worried about Pedro. I think I remember reading he hit 93 a few times in the start against the Dodger’s but that might have been generous.

    He’s going to get by with the off speed stuff and if he can’t throw it for strikes he’s going to have to throw cookies to this lineup in Yankee Stadium in order not to walk the ballpark.

    I realize he is one of those “rises to the occasion” types, but as long as the Yankees don’t treat him like they did Kenny Rogers in that Detroit series a few years back we’ll be fine.

    The fact is we hit him very well and he doesn’t have the electric stuff he used to have.

    As for the lineup, you don’t change anything. This lineup, flaws and all, has only lost 2 post season games. They haven’t lose a home game.

    As much as Swisher has looked awful, he did some good things Sunday night.

    At least if we add Hinske to the roster we have an option for Swisher better than we did in the last series.

    And there is no way Matsui plays the OF in the series unless it’s an emergency. The guy can’t run all out to 1b. How do you expect him to track down a ball in the OF?

  146. Bronx Bombers Girl October 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    In regards to the necklaces, they had a booth @ Yankees fanfest in Jacob Javits and those necklaces are used by many of the ballplayers for that is under the description Concerned-Citizen linked above. They did a whole presentation and had sample “band-aids” that had the same effect as the necklaces.

  147. William Buckner October 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Other then some small roster moves and adding a 4th starter, they shouldn’t do anything.

    Rotation should be CC, AJ, Andy and Gaudin. Don’t go short rest until a game 7 with CC.

    They should drop Cervelli and add Hinske (Posada should catch AJ). At worst, drop Guzman and add Hinske.

    Otherwise, don’t mess with what works. 103 wins, swept the Twins, and beat the second best team in all baseball in 6 games (could’ve have been another sweep).

    KISS – keep it simple, stupid!!!

  148. Kevin in CT October 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    Girardi on WFAN – Says leaning towards Molina catching AJ, that it’s “worked well for us”.

    Really. Has it?

  149. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    mick,

    Are you having a conversation with Girardi or are you giving us a transcript of something? If so, please share the source.

  150. Ninja Burglar October 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Damon actually has played RF in his life, although that was a few years ago. I thougth he had spent some time there this season when Gardy came in to play center, but it was Melky shifting to right and not Damon. My mistake.

    M, Matsui would be in the OF to keep his bat in the lineup in an NL park over Swisher who is obviously slumping. That is an unpopular idea, however, so I will drop it.

    Thanks for playing.

  151. randy l. October 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    “What if CC or Andy have a bad first game? Will you sit them?”

    m-

    no because a bad game would not be part of a pattern. it would likely be just a bad game.
    two bad games in a row by aj would be the beginning of a pattern. ideally you’d like to have a third game to really see if he just had bad games or was actually having trouble with pressure.

    the luxury of a third bad game is hard to give at this point in the year. so girardi would have to make a gut decision on incomplete evidence if burnett has another bad game.

    hopefully he’ll pitch well and it won’t be a problem.

    i also believe that aj may just need a year of seasoning to adjust to these big games. he’s never done this before. sometimes it takes time to figure out how to be perform normally under extreme pressure.

    aj may or may not be going through this.
    his release point is hard to find under pressure. when kazmir threw that ball high, what happened was he tried to throw easy and that’s actually hard to find the release point when doing that. kazmir comes over the top so when he released early the ball went high. if he wasn’t under pressure kazmir makes that throw 999 out of 1000 times.

    aj spins so when he releases early the ball goes arm side and when he releases late the ball goes away from arm side but with run back towards arm side.

    under pressure simple is usually better which is why alex is doing so well. he’s simplified the moving parts. at some point it would be nice if aj could do the same.

  152. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    it looks like manuel doesn’t want to pitch hamels on the road so he is forced to go with pedro

  153. Bronx Bombers Girl October 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    In regards to the necklaces, they had a booth @ Yankees fanfest in Jacob Javits and those necklaces are used by many of the ballplayers for the reasons under the description that Concerned-Citizen linked above. They did a whole presentation and had sample “band-aids” that had the same effect as the necklaces.

  154. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Kevin,

    Yes, it has. One inning where the Angels jumped early in the count on pitches around the edges of the strike zone.

    Jose has a grand total of what 4 at-bats in the entire postseason? Maybe 5? Nothing to freak out about.

  155. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    girardi on the FAN right now with Mike

  156. Bronx Bombers Girl October 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Sorry for my 1:41 post after re-reading it, even I knew it did not make any sense…..LOL

    I reposted @ 1:43

  157. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    The league differences are irrelevent.

    This Phillies team is an AL team. If they played in the AL, whey would win over 90 games. They are a really good team.

    They can hit, run, are solid defensively, grind and have good pitching. They also don’t quit. A key component toward being a championship team, which they are.

    Cliff Lee is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

    Hamels, while not as good as last year, is still tough.

    Their bullpen doesn’t have to great for long. Just for a week.

    As bad as Brad Lidge has been all season, he’s pitched great in the post-season.

    Its why the regular stats mean little.

    JC Romero was a journeyman pitcher. He pitched lights out for the Phillies last year and was great in the World Series.

    In fact, they don’t the World Series last year with his contributions.

    Its about playing well for a week. If you do that, you win, regardless of your reputation or your stats.

  158. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Ninja Burglar,

    No need to be so snippy. It’s a great idea. If Matsui’s knees could handle it.

    Besides which, how many innings did Matsui play the field in NL parks?

  159. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    randy l,

    Those are great thoughts. But I don’t think Girardi will make his decision based on a bad outing by one or more of the starters. Unless, threat of elimination forces his hand one way or another.

  160. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    it’s surprising to hear girardi say he could possibly go with 2 catchers with molina catching aj twice.

  161. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    “Joba wears a necklace that looks like a rope. I noticed a lot of them are wearing that too. Is it a different version that is made by phitan?”

    Those are the Phiten “Tornado” necklaces. I thinks it’s basically 2 necklaces wrapped around each other.

    Funny but the two Yankee pitchers that seem to wear those necklaces are the ones with the “mental” issues.

  162. Kevin in CT October 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    m -

    You should field your best lineup for every game, it’s the World Series. The difference of giving away two at bats a game can determine an entire game.

    Having Molina over Posada for Burnetts starts is ridiculous. If you look at the splits, they are comparable.

  163. Noreaster October 27th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    I guess the Phillies are hoping that Pedro had a few Dominican Shakes under that Mango Tree…

  164. Laura - Bring on PHI! October 27th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    “And there is no way Matsui plays the OF in the series unless it’s an emergency. The guy can’t run all out to 1b. How do you expect him to track down a ball in the OF?”

    I was hoping that he would get his knees drained before the WS, but I guess there wasn’t time.

  165. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    SJ,
    What are your thoughts on Hughes and Joba in these playoffs. I havnt been confortable watching any of them this post season. Is it the competition/location/velocity etc? Robertson looked pretty good in that cameo. Will he get a chance in the 6th or 7th this Series? Thoughts.

  166. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    mick,

    I don’t think so. If (heaven forbid) the second catcher of a game should get dinged up, Hairston’s the emergency catcher. Beyond that, if a catcher can’t continue the series you bring up Cervelli.

    SJ,

    I just think that some of our key guys and role players are also capable of stepping up. I’m not overlooking the Phillies at all. But the Yankees are a good team. I wholeheartedly believe they’re the best team and capable of playing good baseball when it counts.

  167. timo October 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Yankee Trader
    October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
    Can anyone tell me if any team in the WS, with the current format of 2-3-2, ever went with a 3 man rotation, and did they win, so I can look it up?
    _____________________________________________

    Dodgers in ’65. Drysdale, Koufax and Osteen. Drysdale games 1 adn 4. Osteen games 3 and 6. Koufax games 2,5 and the shutout winner in game 7 on two days rest.

  168. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    AJ gave up 6 runs in his last start. No, he didn’t pitch well.

    He didn’t have “one bad inning”. He started out horribly, put the team in a 4-0 hole.

    To put that in perspective, the Yankees have only come back to win ONE post-season game in their history, when trailing by 4 or more runs.

    In other words, that’s a BIG hole.

    Team fought back, scored 6 runs to take the lead, and AJ was entrusted to get 3 outs (with the bottom of the order coming up for the Angels) against a team devastated that they blew a 4 run lead at home.

    What did he do? Fell apart in the 7th, couldn’t get the job done, and forced Girardi to go to his many bad bullpen decisions to try and save the inning.

    A good starting pitcher, regardless of who is catching, controls his emotions enough to have a shutdown inning to the bottom of the order, get the ball to Mo, and clinch the pennant.

    Unfortunately, AJ isn’t good enough (at least not yet) to do it.

    Sugarcoating it or making excuses for it won’t change the facts.

    He was bad in his last start and Girardi needs him to be better in the World Series. If he isn’t, they won’t win the Series because the Phillies are a much better team than both the Angels and Twins.

  169. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks for clearing up the necklce thing. Someone told me that but they did not have a source. Thats why I put not sure if its true or not.

  170. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Kevin,

    Agreed. They should field the best team every game. You should definitely get a hold of Girardi and let him know how you feel. ;)

  171. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    mel,
    Does the nba season start today? If so, i see the Lakers have started out with a break. Griffen will be out for 6 weeks. Whats the status on Gasol and Bynum? Heard they were hurting.

  172. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    what is Mike talking about? Matsui in the field? I just missed it!

  173. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    m

    he just said it. maybe you should take it up with him.

  174. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    “Girardi on WFAN – Says leaning towards Molina catching AJ, that it’s “worked well for us”.

    Really. Has it?”

    :D

    Nah, Girardi just hasn’t gotten to seek counsel here.

    :lol:

    In all seriousness, yes it has worked for us. What may not have worked as well is pitching him on the road. Certain pitchers have better road records, some have better home records (see Hamels, Cole).

    I am now convinced that anyone who is still stuck in place about Posada catching AJ is just stuck in place over wanting Posada to catch. Even huge Posada backers such as Randy and Wave see the wisdom in staying with what has been in place for a while now, even if that’s the reason for doing it. AJ has total comfort with Molina. There is no reason to change that now.

  175. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release October 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Girardi on WFAN – Says leaning towards Molina catching AJ, that it’s “worked well for us”.

    Really. Has it?

    ========================

    I don’t think it has. Doesn’t matter who is catching AJ, equal chance of a great performance or a horrible one. Rather have Posada catching and his bat in the lineup from the start.

    AJ is like a box a chocolates, no matter who is catching, we just don’t know what we are gonna get.

  176. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I think Bynum plays, Gasol will be on the active roster but I think he sits (hamstring).

    Griffin was foolish for making that monster dunk in a meaningless game.

    Bill Simmons was wright. The Clippers are cursed.

  177. Zach in Port Jeff October 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    If you had to pick 3 players on the Phillies who you were not going to allow to beat you, who would it be? So far, I’m going with Howard, Ibanez, and Ruiz.

    I know Ruiz is a bit of a strange choice, as opposed to Utley and Rollins, but he has a flair for the dramatic and and can be very dangerous at the bottom of their lineup.

  178. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    The Phillies are a good team. But offensively, they don’t rank with the Yanks. They don’t rank with the Angels or the Red Sox. I think their offense is roughly equivalent to the Rays or the Rangers.

  179. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    SJ…I agree with you on AJ. Yet some say he is not a choker.
    Isn’t that what you are implying?

  180. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    mick,

    Who just said what?

  181. MR.OCTOBER October 27th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Whoever thinks Matsui should play the outfield is NUTS!!!
    Unless of course MLB will allow him to patrol leftfield in a golf cart!

  182. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    SOS,

    Joba hasn’t pitched well in months. I know folks who think Joba can do no wrong will disagree. However, as they say, the tape doesn’t lie.

    Even in Game 6, the balls were hard hit. Fortunately, they were at defenders. He isn’t missing many bats.

    Hughes was jumpy in Anaheim. When he gets quick in his delivery, he loses the plate.

    You have 2, inexperienced kids really experiencing post-season pressure for the first time.

    Pitching an inning or two in 2007 isn’t this kind of pressure.

    Personally, unless he is injured and the Yankees are keeping it close to the vest, its insane to have Joba over Robertson in the bullpen rotation.

    Robertson is a better strikeout pitcher than Joba at this point in their respective careers. Only Mo has outpitched him out of the pen in the post-season.

    I’m hoping Girardi puts him in better leverage situations because you need to miss bats pitching at Citizens Bank Ballpark. If not, you pay the price.

  183. m October 27th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    mick,

    I don’t think it’s a surprise. And that was my reasoning.

  184. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Who would win in a 7 game series between this team and the 98 team? I know this team hasnt won anything yet but damn it looks like one of those special seasons.

  185. mick October 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Posada also has a tougher time digging out AJ’s curves in the dirt. Could be a factor.

  186. m October 27th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    SoS,

    Kind of hard when Jeter, Mo, Rivera, Posada, and Girardi were on both teams. Duh. :P

  187. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    “What did he do? Fell apart in the 7th, couldn’t get the job done, and forced Girardi to go to his many bad bullpen decisions to try and save the inning.”

    Actually most of the experts suggested that his sitting as long as he had to in the 6th, especially since he had been floating along from the 2nd to the 6th, was the reason he put the first two people on base.

    If the Yankees need AJ to be successful in order to win the world series, the last thing you do is mess with his comfort level!

  188. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    “Posada also has a tougher time digging out AJ’s curves in the dirt. Could be a factor.”

    Absolutely.

  189. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Why is it that AJ seems to have one bad inning per game?

  190. William Buckner October 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    “If he isn’t, they won’t win the Series because the Phillies are a much better team than both the Angels and Twins.”

    Don’t know about them being a much better team then Angel. Offensively they weren’t. Scored less runs, worse BA, worst OBP.

    Pitching they were, by a pretty wide margin. Though I would say LAA pitching was at it’s best down the stretch and in post season due to health of staff.

    As for the toughness, heart factor, I think LAA was very dangerous. This was a team rallied around a fallen teammate and that can be a very powerful thing. In fact, I think the Phillies rallied around Manuel after his mother past away due the World Series last year.

    Not saying I don’t think the Phillies are very good, just not sure they were better then Angels. If it were an Angels Phillies WS, I would’ve bet on Angels.

  191. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Wave,

    I think the Phillies have a better offense than both the Angels and Red Sox.

    What impresses me about them is they hit well and win, on the road.

    Boston’s offensive home/road splits this year were extreme. I think the Phillies are a more consistent offensive team.

    I don’t think AJ chokes. Very few players “choke”.

    Most fans who think players “choke” have never played anything and don’t understand what “choking” is.

    This is AJ Burnett’s first ever post-season.

    One could make the argument, given how the game are so closely scrutinized by fans and media in NY, that the 35 or so starts he’s had this year have been the most pressure filled starts in his entire career.

    The post-season amps it up even more.

    Guys are human. They get anxious and when they do (as Randy pointed out), you lose your release.

    Same thing has happened to Hughes in the post-season.

    Arod is the CLASSIC example of trying to do too much in the post-season. It has taken him years to relax, let the game come to you, and trust your talent.

    Its a learned attribute.

    Its taken CC 3 post-seasons to learn it.

    Some guys (Jeter and Mo for example) come to it naturally.

    It is however, not natural to be able to slow the game down in your mind and perform when the pressure is at its highest.

    That what seperates good players from great players.

  192. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Even in Game 6, the balls were hard hit. Fortunately, they were at defenders. He isn’t missing many bats.

    ========

    My thoughts exactly SJ. What happened to that monster fastball clocked at 97/98 and his other pitches that teams flared at in the dirt trying to get the bat going early expecting the fastball. He has to be hurt or like some have said. He just came into the season not in baseball shape and hasnt been able to find his arm strength. I just hope some games are blow outs so my blood pressure doesnt go through the roof.

  193. DB October 27th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    AJ Gump :/

  194. Pel October 27th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Joe Girardi with Mike Francesa:

    http://bit.ly/3qhfBO

  195. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Girardi’s comments on Molina don’t surprise me at all.

    I think he’s wrong about starting Molina – I’ve been against it from the beginning – but what kind of manager would Girardi be if his original reasons (in Girardi’s mind) for starting Molina were so weak as to allow him to change his mind based on one game?

    Girardi doesn’t strike me that way. He made up his mind before the ALDS and he’s going to stick with it.

    That means, by the way, Cervelli stays on the roster. Girardi will go with 12 pitchers – 4 starters and 8 relievers – and that means Bruney.

    Cervelli and Bruney in, Hinske and Guzman out. Not the best arrangement, IMO, but that’s what I think Girardi will do.

  196. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    “Choking” is just another way of saying he doesn’t or hasn’t learned to handle pressure.

    Sometimes it seems he has a short attention span. He definitely has a relaxation problem.

  197. jennifer October 27th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    someone said that Joe said there is a possibility of Matsui playing the outfield in the NL park. I Joe yanking our chain or does he want every hit to LF to be an inside the park homerun?

    That would be a move ranked up there with putting Sheffield at first in the playoffs.

  198. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Duh mel. Those players are cloned with a little more miles on them. And of course Posada would be un-cloned for games pitched by Burnett. Just look at it like it was a video game.

  199. mick October 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    WYH

    Hinske will definitely be on the roster, as a pinchhitter. IMO it’s between Cervelli and Bruney. Joe hinted he could go with 2 catchers. I don’t know his reasoning if Molina catches.

  200. JasonR October 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    “Who would win in a 7 game series between this team and the 98 team? I know this team hasnt won anything yet but damn it looks like one of those special seasons.”

    The pitching staff and lineup (from top to bottom) was better in 1998. But CC is as good as Boomer and Coney were and A-Rod and Tex is a more dangerous 3-4 combo than O’Neill and Williams.

    It’d be a good series, but 1998 is still the gold standard as far as recent history goes.

  201. SJ44 October 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Molina has had just as much trouble digging balls out of the dirt in the post-season than Posada did during the regular season.

    AJ is a tough guy to catch on that issue.

    The sitting is an excuse. His pitch count was low enough entering the 7th inning to go out and get the job done.

    If he didn’t give up 4 in the first, they wouldn’t have had to mount such a comeback requiring him to sit for a long period of time in the 7th.

    As Randy correctly pointed out, his release point went haywire when the pressure got intense. That’s natural for a first time guy in the post-season.

    That’s not a catcher issue.

    Look at his post-season starts to date. They have gotten progressively worse.

    Meaning, its pretty tough to argue he has a “comfort level” with Molina.

    If he did, he his starts would be getting better and not worse.

  202. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    “Why is it that AJ seems to have one bad inning per game?”

    Good question. It has been noted that he seems to have problems when there are runners on base – whether it’s his doing or because of errors being committed.

    People need to cut the guy a break since this is his first postseason. Lots more people have faith in him to get the job done than don’t, which is a good thing. He pitches well at home.

    I tried to post an article that was in the projo, but for some reason it wouldn’t post. I would have linked to it but the projo is a registration paper. It was excellent, especially for a paper that definitely backs the Sux. Part of it talked about how hard it is to play for the Yankees.

    Not eveyone finds the water warm. It takes time for some players to acclimate. Clemens entire first season was a disaster!

  203. DB October 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    SJ44,

    Guys are human. They get anxious and when they do (as Randy pointed out), you lose your release.

    ____

    In layman’s words, he choked.

    It’s such a bad label that no one wants it in sports. If you have played before, you have more of an appreciation of what that label means and never want to use it.

    Hughes choked too, leaving that fastball down the middle of the plate when the world knows he was supposed to elevate it.

    The ultimate choke is when you have something at hand and you fail to execute something routine. a la Bill Buckner.

    Both AJ and Hughes didn’t cost them anything in the long run, so it is completely excusable.

  204. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    Sometimes it seems he has a short attention span. He definitely has a relaxation problem.

    ==========

    He needs to freakin do one of 2 things.
    a. Woooosa
    b. Get with Alex and ask him to go out with Kate for one night so he can get over that problem.

    Look at Alex. He no longer does that huffing thing at the plate on pressure situations. That hyper ventilating thing he used to do. Shes gotta be a miracle worker.

    Now regarding Swisher struggles at the plate. I think he should do the Mark Grace thing and look for a BIG lady for a slump buster.

    Problem solved 27 has finally arrived.

  205. Phil October 27th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Red Sox OPS+ 104, Angels OPS+ 104, Phillies OPS+ 102, Yankees OPS+ 119.

  206. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops October 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Yankee Trader,

    The 1987 Twins used a 3-man rotation in the 2-3-2 format. They won the WS in seven games.

  207. DB October 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    trisha, how do you sort the posts to show the ones with your name? I tried it with DB and it just gave me a runtime error.

  208. vin October 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Hinske will make the roster.

    The only righties to pitch to Ryan Howard will be AJ and Mo, and Jayson Werth is protecting Howard in the lineup.

    Howard kills rhp.
    Werth kills lhp.

    It would behoove Girardi to stick to his platooning of pitchers. There will be a lot of pitching changes, some double-switching.

    Having Hinske on the roster to hit for the LOOGY, or guys who will be coming out for a LOOGY will be very helpful.

    Matsui will be the first PH used because he’s a better hitter, and can’t play the field. Hinske can even be used in a double switch, if necessary, to replace a guy like Gardner.

  209. Erica - always OPPC October 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  210. Bronx Jeers October 27th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    John Starks in game 7. 2 for 18 / 0-11 from 3 point range.

    That was choking.

    AJ gives up big innings regularly. Like a persistent cough.

  211. S.o.S.( Being Champs is a Yank birth right) October 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Jason,
    I think the pitching was better but this years offense is more potent. Looking at the pitching. I might have to agree that the 98 team might have won in 6 or 7.

  212. Wave Your Hat October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    SJ44-

    I agree with you that the Phillies are more consistent home vs. away than the Sox. The Phils are very consistent in that regard.

    I don’t agree with your estimate of their offense. It’s good, one of the best, and the best in the NL, but not as good as the big 3 in the AL.

    However, they have a very good team because their pitching – especially their pitching now – and their defense is excellent.

  213. trisha - OPPC lifetime member happily waiting for Number 27! October 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    DB, I just go to “edit” and then “find on this page”.

  214. Pat M. October 27th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Remember that the Yanks are very familiar with the Phillie’s starters…..Cliff Lee is more concerned with the Yanks Lineup than the Yanks are with Lee…..Although Howard is a force, he’ll chase and k’s alot…..It’s Raul Ibanez that can be the difference maker on this club….Also keep The Flyin Hawaian off the bases…..

  215. steveoh October 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    SJ44: “The sitting is an excuse. His pitch count was low enough entering the 7th inning to go out and get the job done.”

    It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason. It’s not good when pitchers have to sit cold for half an hour after pitching six innings. In that case, pitch count doesn’t matter. Girardi had a full bullpen, and Robertson likely would have easily breezed through the bottom of that lineup.

    So, two Torre-esque and typical (for most managers) mistakes by Girardi. One, he put too much “faith” in a veteran, because he is a veteran. And two, not having faith in “newer” relievers, even if they’ve pitched well.

    Burnett should never have gone out for the 7th. It was Girardi’s fault.

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    Very dangerous gamble by Manuel in my opinion. Perfect for Yankees and Yankee fans like me. If Pedro gives up ANYTHING, that crowd will start to roar like never before.

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