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Yankees helpless vs. Lee, fall in Series opener

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 28, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Not a good beginning for the Yankees, who lose 6-1. Back with the clubhouse report soon.

UPDATE, 12:11 a.m.: Pitching coach Dave Eiland just said that Cliff Lee’s performance was “probably the best pitching performance we’ve seen against us all season” and Mark Teixeira said he “wouldn’t disagree with that.”

Eiland also said that the 113 pitches CC Sabathia threw wasn’t too much to rule him out of a start on three days rest in Game 4, though Eiland was quick to add that didn’t mean the Yankees were going to choose to do that.

UPDATE, 12:15 a.m.: Johnny Damon said “the ball was definitely getting in on us” from Lee. “We wasted a great performance by CC, that’s the bottom line,” Damon added.

By the way, both Damon and Jorge Posada said they didn’t think that Lee was showing up the Yankees at all with his side-saddle catch of Damon’s pop-up and tag-on-the-rear of Posada. Damon said he thought Lee was debating whether to let the pop-up drop, but caught it when he saw that Damon was running hard out of the box.

UPDATE, 12:18 a.m.: Some debate in the clubhouse about what was Lee’s best pitch tonight. Some guys seemed to think cutter, some thought changeup, others said curveball. Bottom line, he mixed pitches and got ahead in the count. “CC did exactly what we needed him to do,” Derek Jeter said. “We just didn’t score runs.”

UPDATE, 12:41 a.m.: On the first home run to Utley, Sabathia was trying to throw a fastball down and away. It ended up over the middle of the plate. On the second home run, Sabathia was trying to go up and in — Posada had called for a cutter away, but Sabathia wanted to stay inside — and he again left the ball over the middle of the plate. Two pitches did all the damage against him, but Sabathia wasn’t impressed.

“Everybody is saying it was only two pitches,” he said. “But I was behind to almost everybody.”

UPDATE, 12:47 a.m.: This will shock everyone. Girardi would not say who’s starting at catcher tomorrow. “We’ll talk about it, I’ll sleep on it, and we’ll have a lineup when I get here tomorrow.”

UPDATE, 1:02 a.m.: Josh here with audio from the clubhouse.

Here’s Girardi, who was a bit shorter than normal:

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Posada talked about Sabathia, Cliff Lee and the bullpen:

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And, finally, Sabathia was very critical about his outing. He demanded more than the three walks, even if it appeared the two mistakes to Utley were what cost him. He also expressed his willingness to pitch Game 4 on short rest:

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As I said on Twitter, Phil Hughes ducked the media after walking two to lead off the eighth. Dave Eiland said Hughes tried to be “too perfect,” but expressed confidence the team will continue to utilize him in the same role. “Sure, why not,” Eiland said. “He’s had a heckuva lot more good outings than bad. We’re not going to throw the towel on him yet.”

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296 Responses to “Yankees helpless vs. Lee, fall in Series opener”

  1. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 28th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    puke

  2. terpbomber (not a bridge jumper) October 28th, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Tomorrow I expect to get a nice “who’s your daddy” whooping on Pedro.

  3. Peter Rabbit October 28th, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Wow. This was a John Lannon type performance.

  4. Carl October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Mitch Williams is the biggest Philly Homer

  5. CR9 October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    “This game was sheer dominance”

    But the season series and playoff series against the Twins was not sheer dominance. It was caused by defensive miscues and baserunning mistakes.

  6. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    Lee may have been irritating to us, but wait’ll they get a load of Chad Guadin! :mad:

  7. Vincent October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @Peteabe has become obnoxious. It is like he gets joy out of taunting his once faithful readers. Unsubscribed to say the least.

  8. 100 pitches of fun... October 28th, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    If the Yanks can’t smack around an 89 year old Pedro throwing 85 mph then they deserve to go home. The bats need to wake up and you would think game 2 of the WS seems like a good time. They are carrying way too much dead weight in the lineup. Maybe Hairston can hit a fastball playing RF tomorrow because Swish definitely can’t.

  9. Scared of the Wall October 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Vincent October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @Peteabe has become obnoxious. It is like he gets joy out of taunting his once faithful readers. Unsubscribed to say the least.
    _____________________________________________________________

    He’s always been obnoxious, but now he can really let go and act like an a-hole since he’s not relying on Yankee fans for his paycheck anyway.

  10. CR9 October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    LETS NOT GIVE UP YANKEES FANS. IT IS ONE GAME.

  11. BellaSakura October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Fans, in general, talk about athletes not having courage, guts, or they are chokers. But blogs, twitter, etc. show you that most fans don’t have the nerve it takes.

    Yankees will be fine. Most people knew this wouldn’t be an easy series.

  12. RS October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    If the Yankees lose the WS, I wish guys like Sabathia, Jeter, Arod, Pettitte, and Rivera could get rings anyway. Those 5 are 90% of the reason the Yankees are here in the first place.

  13. sosfre October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Wow. There goes home field advantage. Now if Pedro beats us tomorrow – series over. Arod back to his old choking ways.

    Losers.

  14. Tim richard October 28th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Looks like Phillies will win in 5 maybe even sweep, Yanks are flat, Philly is new baseball dynasty, unfortunate, but true!

  15. Mac Daddy October 28th, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    would we all feel better if the final was 2-0 or 2-1?

  16. Mac Daddy October 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    think the 6-1 final makes fans even more depressed and negative

  17. RS October 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Btw, this is the third consecutive game the Yankees have failed to hit a HR at home. I’m almost 100% positive that never happened in the regular season. Disturbing, to say the least.

  18. RS October 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Btw, this is the third consecutive game the Yankees have failed to hit a HR at home. I’m almost 100% positive that never happened in the regular season. Disturbing, to say the least.

  19. JZ October 28th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    It’s not an act, SotW.

  20. Erica - always OPPC October 28th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    20 hours and 10 minutes until Game 2!!!!!!!!!

  21. E-gawa October 28th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    sosfre
    October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    Wow. There goes home field advantage. Now if Pedro beats us tomorrow – series over. Arod back to his old choking ways.

    Losers.

    ————————–

    “us”? You sound too much of a quitter to be a fan of this team.

  22. noob October 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Long time lurker, new poster, but…

    If I believe in anything, its this team’s ability to come back. I think this game was the wake up call that they needed. I’m looking forward to asking ‘whos your daddy’ tomorrow in person.

  23. 100 pitches of fun... October 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    People are definitely right when they say Phils fans are the most annoying, pathetic, obnoxious fans ever. They win 1 WS…yes 1 and then talk like they have 10 rings. They need to come on here and talk smack on a Yankee board. I thought Sox fans were bad but Phils fans are defintiely the worst.

  24. E-gawa October 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    It was a tough game to watch but this series is far from over.

  25. terpbomber (not a bridge jumper) October 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    C.C. pitched well enough to win — the only two hard hit balls (and runs) came from Utley. The bullpen wiped that out by offering up all those walks.

    As for the bats, I’ll grudgingly cut some slack because it was Cliff Lee. But not for Pedro. The Yankees faced him a gazillion times all these years and he can be lit up.

  26. John October 28th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    I didn’t like Lee’s showboating catches of the Damon pop-up and the comebacker to the mound. Not very sportsmanlike. Yes, you’re pitching awesome. But have some respect. That said, he pitched one heck of a game.

    Even though we lost, and CC fell prey to Utley, and the bullpen tossed the game further outside our reach, and the Yanks looked largely helpless, I enjoyed this game. World Series Game 1 in the Bronx, CC had some great innings, Jeter, Mr. Consistency, had some great at-bats, Cano had some great plays, and Melky had a great catch in center.

    But Hughes looks cross-eyed out there, Posada continues to show some alarming obliviousness, and Tex hasn’t awoken from his slumber.

    Whither the Yankee bats? I know it’s Cliff Lee, but the Yanks’ frustrating at-bats, en masse, have been an issue for most of the post-season.

    Please, AJ Burnett, Bring It tomorrow night!

  27. John October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    I will also say that even though we lost, I’m SO glad we snapped our WS scoreless streak, and that we broke up the shutout!!

  28. CR9 October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Cliff Lee is classless.

    We just have to hope for a fair HP umpire tomorrow. If we get a fair HP umpire, we should hammer Pedro.

  29. Eric October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Why is ARod geting a free pass tonight? The WS starts and he predictably disappears. It’s one thing to hit against the pathetic Twins and Angels… it is another to hit in the WS. He better step up… the guy makes 300 mill he better hit.

  30. Carlo October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    I, For one, am not worried. Did I want that game? Of course. Pressure on tomorrow night, but its the world series and the pressure is always on. We get a W tomorrow and we take 2 of 3 in philly and close it out here next wednesday night.

  31. Adam D. October 28th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    Tomorrow is a must win. AJ needs to finally
    pitch well. If not we are being set up for possibly another heart breaking year. I don’t like our chances 2-0 going back to philly. I’m a die hard Yankee fan but those are just the facts. The Yankees can still
    win this series. They pretty much have to tomorrow.

  32. Scared of the Wall October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Michael Kay and Singleton are saying that Coke should have been brought in for Ibanez’s at-bat, but what does it matter?

    Robertson deserved a shot and Coke gave up a hit later in the game, so it’s no guarantee he would have gotten Ibanez out anyway. Also, who was going to hold the lead in the 8th? Bruney looked like crap.

    The entire bullpen failed tonight and for Kay and Singleton to pin the loss on Robertson and Girardi’s failure to bring in Coke at that moment is just nit-picking.

  33. RS October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    “would we all feel better if the final was 2-0 or 2-1?”

    Hard to tell. The 6-1 loss is an easy one to forget, unlike the 1 run losses in the ALCS that could have pinpointed on one AB or one pitch. Those ones were frustrating because of all the second guessing.

    On the other hand, it would have been nice if Hughes and maybe Robertson had finished the game with 2 easy scoreless innings. At least then the loss could be attributed to just one aspect of the team (offense) rather than two (offense and bullpen).

  34. Andrew October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    This game has was rough, and if we don’t drastically improve our hitting fast and get the bullpen in order, this World Series is gonna be over in five games.

    First move: take Swisher out of the lineup, please, please, take Swisher outta there. He is a pathetic hitter and an average fielder and has not proven himself to be on this team in the postseason. Second:

  35. vb03 October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Eric October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Why is ARod geting a free pass tonight? The WS starts and he predictably disappears. It’s one thing to hit against the pathetic Twins and Angels… it is another to hit in the WS. He better step up… the guy makes 300 mill he better hit.

    ———————-

    This has got to be a joke, right? Right?

  36. Adam October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Doesn’t CC have to pitch game 4 now? I feel like it would be a waste to pitch him game 5 against Lee with the way he is dealing. CC can let up 1 run and still lose that game, would rather see him face Blanton in game 4.

  37. Rose October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Great game by Lee.
    Good game by CC.
    Yankee offense=Jeter
    Yankee bullpen terrible.

    ==============================================================AJ needs to come up BIG tomorrow.

  38. mick October 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Why wasn’t Coke even up for Ibanez?

  39. Andrew October 28th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    Sorry about that
    Second: let Hughes stay in the bullpen and keep robinson, joba, and coke as the top priority bullpen pitchers. Hughes chokes, over and over again, it’s so sad.

  40. The Curious Case of Joba Chamberlain October 28th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    This year is over. The Yankees pen has turned into a joke.

  41. Greg October 29th, 2009 at 12:00 am

    C’mon guys. Girardi should just call Manuel and concede this series. To let the Phillies come in to your home ballpark and kick your tails all over the stadium without showing the least little bit of fight…

    Rollins had it dead on. Phillies in five games. But if Pedro wins tomorrow, then it’s a clean sweep.

  42. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    New Bullpen Pecking Order:

    Mo
    Joba
    Marte for lefties
    Robertson

    Hughes looks like he’s lost it. Might be fatigue. He hasn’t pitched this many innings before, IIRC.

  43. Scared of the Wall October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Eric October 28th, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Why is ARod geting a free pass tonight? The WS starts and he predictably disappears. It’s one thing to hit against the pathetic Twins and Angels… it is another to hit in the WS. He better step up… the guy makes 300 mill he better hit.

    _____________________________________________________________

    Give me a break… without A-Rod the Yanks wouldn’t even be in the World Series.

    What about Tex? He didn’t hit tonight either and he hasn’t hit well the entire postseason. Pick another scapegoat, you are obviously just hating on A-Rod.

  44. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    I remember ’96 when we lost the first two to Atlanta…

    And we lost to two future HOF pitchers I believe…Smoltz and Maddox?

    Oh yeah, and then we went on to win it all…

  45. Mike in Harrisburg October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Was not a lot of fun to watch at a bar in Pennsylvania, that’s for sure. I’m just glad I have a Rizzuto shirt, which got me some sympathetic pats on the back.

  46. John October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Buck: The winner of game one of the World Series has gone on to win the World Series 6 out of the last seven years.

    Me: Well, heck, the Yanks should just forfeit the rest of the Series then.

  47. Potter October 29th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    Good pitchers can make good hitters look bad… it happens. I do believe that swisher needs a night off. He is obviously pressing.

  48. gfd October 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Sam
    not good to start a thread downing the Yankees.We watched the game don’t need a negative thread!

  49. BellaSakura October 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    A pass, please act like you’ve watched baseball before.

  50. marie October 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Pete is showing his true colors tonight more so than usual. Abe-Fraud.

  51. John October 29th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Word, Dynasty is Destiny.

  52. Dazz October 29th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Season on the line ane basketcase AJ is on the mound. That just fills me with confidence….. oh, and even if we have a lead, the pen is in shambles.

    ‘flash gordon’ hughes and co. give life to other teams.

  53. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Not that it matters but I really don’t understand how Girardi could bring in Bruney to pitch the 9th inning. Why not let Robertson pitch another inning or his boyfriend Joba? Bruney hasn’t pitched in a century. It really made no sense.

  54. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 29th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    In retrospect, maybe pre-game cheesesteaks for the team was a bad idea.

  55. sam October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    I’m afraid the Yanks just aren’t that good. The Twins gave them a few games with bonehead plays and the Angels had defensive meltdowns, which hardly ever happens to them. The Yanks just don’t have the guts to compete with a solid Philadelphia team.

  56. CD October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Steinbrenner was at the game, I bet he’s steaming mad.

  57. Trevor October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Scared of the Wall

    I think Singleton and Kay’s point was Girardi showed some inconsistency when he let Robertson face Ibanez.
    If it was the ALCS or ALDS he would have brought in Coke.

  58. Rob October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    I hate to say but this: we ain’t winning this series. I think we are cooked.

  59. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Greg – Why do you put in the tape of the three game Oriole sweep in your own ball park? It might help deal with your humility issue.

  60. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    if cliff lee wins every game he pitches & we win all the other ones we win the series in 7 games.
    its in our hands.

  61. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    What would it have mattered if Coke came in for Ibanez?

    Even if they held it to 2 runs Cliff Lee would have just drunk more human blood and mowed them down even harder.

  62. CD October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    sam October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    The Yanks just don’t have the guts to compete with a solid Philadelphia team.

    ==========================

    the phillies are constipated?

  63. Rose October 29th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Next time Girardi brings in Robertson, how about bringing him in to start an inning?

  64. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:06 am

    “Pete is showing his true colors tonight more so than usual. Abe-Fraud.”

    If a blog writer taps on his keyboard and there is no one there to read the words, does it really make a sound?

  65. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Posada cannot call a good game. He does not study tendencies or gamefilm. He is lazy. Pitchers who study the game and are veterans tell him to shove it and pitch their own game. Inexperienced or jittery pitchers normally rely on catcher to know what to throw. That’s why girardi puts Molina with aj. He has known from his playing days that posada can’t work well with pitchers not named Clemens or pettite.

  66. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    “would we all feel better if the final was 2-0 or 2-1?”
    ————–

    Absolutely. Because then I would know that the Yanks played a good game and just got beat. Tonight they didn’t hit and the bullpen was terrible. What was upsetting was that they were down by 4 runs and then for some odd reason Girardi just threw in the towel.

  67. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    What is wrong with you people?

    Giving up?

    Not caring if we win?

    We had a great season, who cares?

    Come on. 7 down, 4 to go. The Yankees can and will win number 27 in 2009.

    This team has fought all year long and come back from one adversity after another.

    This team will come back again.

  68. Scared of the Wall October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    What would it have mattered if Coke came in for Ibanez?

    Even if they held it to 2 runs Cliff Lee would have just drunk more human blood and mowed them down even harder.
    __________________________________________________________

    Hmm, now that you mention it, Lee does resemble a vampire.

    Maybe that was blood on his hat? Forget about spitballs, he’s throwing bloodballs.

  69. sam October 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    “Well, heck, the Yanks should just forfeit the rest of the Series then.”

    The reality of the situation is that wouldn’t be a bad idea, lol. The Yanks are just going to be humiliated from this game forward. There is no offensive firepower to match the Phillies. The bullpen is a joke…literally a joke. And CC can’t match Lee pitch for pitch.

  70. Chase October 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Yall do realize this was just one game right? We didn’t crown a world series champion tonight

  71. Dave October 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Yankees got outplayed and outpitched, yes. But Lee was classless in his nonchalont catch. Also, I know it ultimately didn’t matter but how do they say Cano went on that swing? His bat stayed on his shoulder and the barrel never came close to the plate. That was just ridiculous.

  72. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    coke was the move vs ibanez cmon Bronx

  73. gyaos October 29th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Hey DT,

    Gutty performance from your Yanks tonight!!!

    WHAT A JOKE!!

  74. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    I know we got beaten up badly by lee today but where were all the fans making noise?

  75. Concerned_Citizen October 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    gyaos October 29th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Hey DT,

    Gutty performance from your Yanks tonight!!!

    WHAT A JOKE!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I needed something to put a smile on my face. Thank you, thank you, thank you gyaos.

    Your brilliant predictions were highly respected during the ALCS.

  76. David Cone's Camera Face October 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    watching the yankees lose is painful, listening to the radio hosts/yankee haters on wfan gloat is making me ill.

  77. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    coke was the move vs ibanez cmon Bronx
    ———————-

    Or how about making Ibanez actually hit your good fastball? At the time I said stay with your fastball. Going off speed there was a terrible call by Posada. As we have seen with Hughes, Joba and Robertson their fastballs are good but they hang their curveballs way too often.

  78. Sigmund October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Please don’t shout “Who’s your daddy?” tomorrow night. Kinda stupid. And I have a feeling it will only fire up Pedro.

  79. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    swisher has to be benched. the others have shown something at some point, but not him. hinske is there. time for him to play.

  80. KF October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    John Flaherty on the Yes post game just confirmed that Cliff Lee has never pitched on 3 days rest in his career before.

    He pitched a great game tonight but that doesn’t mean he has the stamina to do it again after throwing 122 pitches.

  81. Joker, The October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Kinda hard to find a reason to make noise when your team does absolutely nothing all night.

    I commend everyone who is actually able to stay positive…I’ve got nothing left after this disaster.

  82. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    1 difference from the dynasty years & now…
    after tonights game the water coolers are still intact.
    that is not allowed to happen

  83. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Hey gayos –

    2004! You were right!! You deserve the dumb troll of the year award!!

    Remember Gayos:
    What do you call a Red Sox player in October?

    A golfer!!!! :-)

  84. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    “Sam
    not good to start a thread downing the Yankees.We watched the game don’t need a negative thread!”

    What exactly did Sam say that makes you so upset?

    And what is everybody blasting Pete for? I read what he said and for the life of me I can’t figure out what people are complaining about.

    They’re reporters. They report. What are they supposed to write.

    “Yanks played a game tonight. No one died. Tune in later for details! “

  85. Ghost of eteP October 29th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Pat abe has always been a loser. When you call him out on it, he emails you and threatens to contact the police or your isp about harrassment. The guy is pure bawston trash

  86. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    GTLU announcement-

    Since the line up was leaked at 4 today and I have things I need to do tomorrow…..

    GTLU will be played from 2:30-4pm.

  87. Greg October 29th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    “Greg – Why do you put in the tape of the three game Oriole sweep in your own ball park? It might help deal with your humility issue.”

    The Yanks are bringing on this ridicule themselves. They have no weapons to hurt the fighting Phillies. They lack the guts, desire, fortitude, passion…all the character traits that belong to a champion. They are going to embarrass all Yankees fans by going down without a fight. And I think the upcoming sweep vs the Yanks will overcome any sadness over what happened vs the O’s. But you can watch replays of that series if it makes you feel better while this year’s Phillies continue to humiliate your Yankees.

  88. Chris October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    oh well, it’s only one game. Yankees in 5! :)

  89. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    This blog is a sad, sad place right now.

    To the sane few out there, tomorrow is another day :-)

    Good night Yankee people!!!!

  90. CD October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Vincent October 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @Peteabe has become obnoxious. It is like he gets joy out of taunting his once faithful readers. Unsubscribed to say the least.
    ==================================

    He’s a sick man. Really. Just look at him – he’s got a lot of issues to weight 300-plus pounds and shave his head like a member of the Mansion family.

  91. CG October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Guys, it’s one game. Tomorrow will be a different story. Time to sleep.

  92. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Pat is obviously Pete’s evil twin.

  93. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Exactly right on call on breaking ball to ibanez. High fastball outside goes to arod or hit in air for out possibly. But it’s posada who doesn’t know what he’s calling, how many outs, or even what count it is. Girardi will be calling posadas game from now on.

  94. Jeremy October 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Why are people getting on A-rod. He can’t do everything. The only reason why this team is here is because of him, Jeter, CC, Andy, and Mo.

    Blame Swisher, Cano, Matsui, Tex, because they have been bad this entire postseason.

  95. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    in a 2-0 game you bring in your lefty to face howard…it’s a no brainer, inexplicable…in the alcs he overmanaged, now coke isn’t even up..

  96. 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Man, what a bunch of losers you all are. One game lost and you’re all jumping ship? Did anyone expect the Yankees to sweep this? Calm down.

  97. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    Positives:
    1.) CC was the man again.
    2.) Jete came to play.
    3.) can’t get any worse!

  98. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    imback

    it looked like girardi was calling the pitches for robertson

  99. Greg October 29th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    “Yall do realize this was just one game right? We didn’t crown a world series champion tonight”

    Actually, in all probability, they did just that. Six of the last seven game-one winners went on to win the World Series.

    I’ll be surprised if the Yanks can win a single game now.

  100. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    But if you live on new England it’s great to turn on nesn and see an infomercial called “Internet millions”. Things could be worse! Alot worse.

  101. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    They have to do whatever they can to change up this lineup. If Posada doesn’t catch AJ then he has to DH. Matsui looks 100% lost and should not play over him. Put either Hinske or Hairston in RF. I can’t watch Swish miss fastball after fastball right over the plate. Adding another automatic out in Molina to the lineup doesn’t help. They need to get something going and the guys at the bottom are doing nothing.

  102. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 29th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    “Man looks in the abyss, there’s nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss.”

    Think hard about your lineup tomorrow, Mr. Girardi. It could be a pretty important one.

  103. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Greg – are there any good Philly blogs I can hang out on?
    Not that I would go there of course – I’m not a troll and I have some class.

    It must give you a rush to go on a Yankee blog and talk trash after a win! Good job! Come back tomorrow win or lose, ok?
    Promise?

  104. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Tomorrow’s keys to the game:
    1.) Early lead for AJ is a MUST!!!
    2.) Lefty sluggers must come up big against Pedro’s changeup.
    3.) The mindset must be we never scored enough runs..

  105. Jeremy October 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    I love how CC is no good because he gave up 2 runs. Some of you people need to get a brain.

  106. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Mick: really? If so, my bad. That was a bad call in my opinion.

  107. David Cone's Camera Face October 29th, 2009 at 12:23 am

    steve sommers is gloating and giggling like a school girl. steve your team was out of it by july….

    i agree that cliff lee can’t pitch every day. This offense has to wake up

  108. CD October 29th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    David Cone’s Camera Face October 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    watching the yankees lose is painful, listening to the radio hosts/yankee haters on wfan gloat is making me ill.
    ====================================

    That’s ALL the Mets fans got. I mean it’s been a quarter century since they won a championship, and it may take another quarter century win another. The sad sacks have nothing.

  109. Bronx Bombers Girl October 29th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 am
    This blog is a sad, sad place right now.
    To the sane few out there, tomorrow is another day
    Good night Yankee people!!!!
    **********************

    G’nite Erica !

    I agree. All the Yankee haters can leave because all they want to do is talk smack because they are scared.

    As for the Yankee faithful…It is 1 game…It’s not over there is still alot of baseball to be played! :)

  110. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    girardi is uptight and he has made his bullpen the same.

    he has shown no trust and tonite you saw the results.

    hughes is a basketcase and robertson not much better.

  111. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    “coke was the move vs ibanez cmon Bronx”

    The way Joe has been managing, I thought he was going to go to Coke.

    Personally, I would have left Marte in to face Werth, maybe pitch around him, then let him go after Ibanez.

    But they only scored 1 run. And they gave up 2 more after that inning anyway.

    The pen sucked. Hughes was awful. Robertson wasn’t much better. Bruney?

    But tonight, Cliff Lee was the story. He wasn’t going to let them win. It could have been 2-1 or 4-1 instead of 6-1 but it was the “1″ that was the significant number tonight.

  112. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Posadas is an out nearly 8 out of every ten at bats in postseason. His bat does not make or break series. However aj’s pitching does. Therefore you go with Molina. Morons.

  113. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    no trust in hughes? are you kidding? he always went to him. sorry he doesnt leave him out there after two leadoff walks.

  114. Scared of the Wall October 29th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Greg October 29th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    “Yall do realize this was just one game right? We didn’t crown a world series champion tonight”

    Actually, in all probability, they did just that. Six of the last seven game-one winners went on to win the World Series.

    I’ll be surprised if the Yanks can win a single game now.

    _____________________________________________________

    The last time an NL champion attempted to defend their title was in 1996. The Yanks went down 0-2 at home and then won the next four games. You can never count the Yankees out.

  115. Greg October 29th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    “I love how CC is no good because he gave up 2 runs.”

    He’s decent, but not just nearly as clutch as Cliff Lee. A solid number two starter, but that’s it. He got owned again by Philly.

  116. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Here’s the deal regarding AJ/Molina.
    If AJ pitches good, then molina’s bat won’t make a difference.
    If AJ is bad then you take him & molina out & we go to BRUNEY??!!!
    JOE YOU HAVE ACEVES IN THE PEN!!

  117. Wes October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    “Posada cannot call a good game. He does not study tendencies or gamefilm. He is lazy. Pitchers who study the game and are veterans tell him to shove it and pitch their own game. Inexperienced or jittery pitchers normally rely on catcher to know what to throw. That’s why girardi puts Molina with aj. He has known from his playing days that posada can’t work well with pitchers not named Clemens or pettite”

    Yes this is allllllllll Posada’s fault.Even the HR that hr when after CC shook him off is his fault too?
    You’ve figured it out! Thumbs up!

    ……………………………..idiot

  118. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    in a 2-0 game you bring in your lefty to face howard…it’s a no brainer, inexplicable…in the alcs he overmanaged, now coke isn’t even up..
    —————————-

    At this point nothing Girardi does with the bullpen surprises me. He has made some really clueless moves. But bringing in Bruney who hasn’t pitched in a month into a still close game really takes the cake.

  119. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    ** MR Yankee **

    Note to self. Have not seen this name on here ever before tonight. Best left unacknowledged in future, given that.

  120. BellaSakura October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    I don’t mind the Yankee hate, it makes my love that much sweeter. Just think, it will give you a free pass to gloat like sore winners when the series is over.

    Thats how I look at it.

  121. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    he did not go to hughes in the alcs..he went to joba, tex.

    phil is uptight and joba should be used 1st.

  122. davidson October 29th, 2009 at 12:28 am

    This is the game the Yankees played for Big Stein,I hope it didn’t kill him!

  123. Jones October 29th, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Posadas is an out nearly 8 out of every ten at bats in postseason. His bat does not make or break series. However aj’s pitching does. Therefore you go with Molina. Morons.
    ———————————–
    Moron last game he did fine with Posada(when Po came in for Molina) Posada got a hit tonight. He protects his pitchers.

  124. Peri October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    are you f-ing kidding me greg? you did see his stats before the game right? you did see his era was barely above one for the postseason, RIGHT?! you did see when dominated the angels. TWICE. RIGHT?!

    I mean good God, sometimes being a Yankee fan sucks when you can clearly see the idiocy that other MLB fans talk about. it. was. ONE. GAME. in a 7 game series. Cliff Lee might be the best pitcher in baseball right now. We have to beat ol man Pedro AT HOME and a shaky hamels against the best postseason pitcher of all time after that. Come on. This series is far from over.

  125. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    momentum is till the next days starting pitcher………
    pedro hangs a couple of curves & changeups & its 1-1.
    no sweat yankee fans.. dejavu all over again

  126. DT - OPPC member October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Angel – A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 am
    ** MR Yankee **
    Note to self. Have not seen this name on here ever before tonight. Best left unacknowledged in future, given that.

    Angel – trolls are like roaches. When they are running around the blog it’s hard to tell them apart.
    Is it one troll with multiple names? Multiple trolls?
    The Raid can doesn’t care. Just aim and spray.

    Good luck with shower duties tomorrow. I’m off.

  127. sadf October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    And as stated, all you girlie men need to toughen up and realize that it’s only 1 game.

    No offense intended whatsoever, but stop being a bunch of pussies.

    We’re the Yankees. We never give up. Not when we’re 1 down, not if we’re two down, not if we’re three down.

  128. Tom October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Pete Abe is really showing no class. I am disappointed in him. I always knew he was a bitter soul, but this is ridiculous.

  129. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    i meant you bring your lefty in to face Ibanez

    bruney was an afterthought, the game was over

    and this is not yankee hate, it is discussion

  130. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Let’s not forget that Robertson hasn’t pitched in a long time. It’s hard to stay sharp when the manager refuses to pitch you.

  131. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Not all of it. Damon flails like he’d rather be at hooters. Matsui is thinking of an amine series on IFC. Swisher is thinking of sticking it to guillen instead of contact. And Tex is lucky he has a food glove bc other than mn hr he is tight as a screw.

  132. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    a food glove?

    it’s only one game, don’t worry

  133. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    I don’t wanna teach tex how to play defense.. but don’t u think he shud of tried to get those grounders thru the right side?
    just curious.. I could understand his thinking though

  134. sw1000 October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    i go to Penn – in philly – and went out with a bunch of yanks fans, and that was embarrassing – cliff was good but COME ON – we really need a good showing in game 2 – LET’S GO YANKS!

  135. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Please, folks, ‘Imback’ is just posting that trash to get a rise out of people. Just leave it alone.

  136. sadf October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Robertson can pitch to lefties. It wasn’t a managerial mistake.

    Posada is an experienced catcher. He’s been the #1 through many postseasons. He can do the job. And he’s one of the core Yankees.

    Let’s try again tomorrow.

  137. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    :X

  138. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Oh God Nick.

    Now you have me thinking about AJ and the abyss. He could very well fall into it!

    What about Pedro and the abyss?

    Is this what he sees?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....a_rosa.jpg

  139. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    :oops: i goofed.

  140. sunny615 October 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    “CC did exactly what we needed him to do,” Derek Jeter said. “We just didn’t score runs.”

    ——–
    well there’s a “No Sh**” comment if there ever was one.

  141. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    nick

    imback makes some good points….we arent hitting and havent in the playoffs…philly is better than LA, this wont be easy

  142. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    So posadas bloop hit makes up for his lack of concentration, poor throwing arm, lack of speed, inability to block balls in dirt and so on? Cool. I didn’t know that was protecting your pitcher. Was ge protecting his pitcher when he walked off field with only two outs last week? Or when headed to dugout, bat in hand after strike two? Or running back to third base in run out and Loping off to foul territory like ge was doing a bizarro single?

  143. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    I was thinking about Girardi looking into the abyss before he fills out his lineup card.

    I don’t want AJ looking in there at all.

  144. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    :mad:

  145. Number23 October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Wow. I never saw so many people throw in the towel after a single game in a seven game series. Different pitcher tomorrow. Most likely it will be a different story. How many times did the Yanks lose to the Angels over the past few years after winning the first game of their series? And I don’t remember the Yankees folding in 1996 after getting spanked in the first two games at home. Thankfully the players in the dugout understand that they didn’t lose the series tonight. Good grief. Take a breath and relax.

  146. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    we have to break out of this hitting slump tomorrow vs pedro…we have pitched and fielded well, but we havent hit yet in the playoffs

  147. BellaSakura October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Tom October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Pete Abe is really showing no class. I am disappointed in him. I always knew he was a bitter soul, but this is ridiculous.

    ——–

    Why are you disappointed? This is the guy who, when you make a legitimate argument, ignores you because he can’t rationalize his poorly crafted argument.

    The guy who posed the question re: the ethics of cheering a cheater. And when people brought up his lack of concern over such an issue regarding Andy and Jason tried to justify it by saying they weren’t big stars. As if ethics is dictated on your place in the game.

    My biggest issue with him was he didn’t give readers enough credit, like having a by-line meant he was automatically smarter. A lot of talking down.

    I don’t hate Pete. Didn’t care enough about him one way or another to have real strong emotions. I didn’t care for a person who had no problem dishing it but couldn’t take it – not even a little. He came off small and childish a few times because of it.

  148. Jeremy October 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    Greg
    Sabathia is one of the best pitchers in the game today. How did he pitch bad against the Phillies ? He gave up 2 runs. A pitcher is not going to be perfect all the time.

    With that statement you proved that you’re a moron !

  149. NY24 October 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    Robertson can pitch to lefties. It wasn’t a managerial mistake.

    Posada is an experienced catcher. He’s been the #1 through many postseasons. He can do the job. And he’s one of the core Yankees.

    Let’s try again tomorrow.

    *********************************************************
    In the words of Andy:
    “Jorge’s been one of the backbones of this team, this organization, for a long, long time. And he’s a huge part of what we’ve been able to do here”

  150. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    BellaSakura
    October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    Fans, in general, talk about athletes not having courage, guts, or they are chokers. But blogs, twitter, etc. show you that most fans don’t have the nerve it takes.
    =====

    Right. As soon as you hear posters on here talking “guts”, “mettle”, etc., run in the other direrction.

    Wallowers in cliches, they have nothing to do but reach ridiculously.

    They don’t know these people – they’re clueless blowhards.

    Just STFU. No one wants to hear you lecture a real pro ballplayer safely tucked behind your little laptop.

  151. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    “ge” the pronoun of choice for pot-stirrers.

    :razz:

  152. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Wow. I never saw so many people throw in the towel after a single game in a seven game series.
    ************************
    No towel throwing in here.

    Although, there might be some kitchen towel-flicking warranted.

  153. Scott October 29th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Worst loss of my career. can’t believe we looked so bad.

  154. NY24 October 29th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    So posadas bloop hit makes up for his lack of concentration, poor throwing arm, lack of speed, inability to block balls in dirt and so on? Cool. I didn’t know that was protecting your pitcher. Was ge protecting his pitcher when he walked off field with only two outs last week? Or when headed to dugout, bat in hand after strike two? Or running back to third base in run out and Loping off to foul territory like ge was doing a bizarro single?
    _________________________________________________________
    So you expect him to come out & get a grand slam everytime? Over the course of years, yes including this one too he has protected his pitchers with his strong bat. He’s one of few that hit tonight. He had a tough game last time, it happens. For a 38 year old coming off an injury, he’s fairing good. As far as the base running its not the first time someone has messed up on the bases, & it won’t be the last.

  155. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    if girardi weren’t so uptight he would start gardner tomorrow….and if aj wants molina let him have it..posada aint hittin…

  156. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    The Yanks only hit well in 2 games so far in the play offs. Against Duensing who is AAA and Kazmir who really had nothing. The hitting has been extremely poor this whole post season. I really thought that Tex, Matsui and Cano would come around but it hasn’t happened.

  157. Ken October 29th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    I live in the Philly area…Whats funny is..I dont think the Phillies fans ever knew who Cliff Lee was until Phillies traded for him. Guess they know him now. Hes their friggin savior….Philly lives in their own little world. Things will change Thursday nite….Back to their regularly scheduled program.

  158. davidson October 29th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    The Whole team played tight,all of them.CC took 24 pitches to get out of the 1st.Lee was a steady 16-18 pitches under him.
    Hope AS is due for a good game.

    The bullpen is what concerns me at this point.With the exception of Mo,they’re newbies and could be overwhelmed.

  159. Nick in SF in Larkspur October 29th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    Like I said. The more he posts here, the more he reveals himself.

  160. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    “Please don’t shout “Who’s your daddy?” tomorrow night. Kinda stupid. And I have a feeling it will only fire up Pedro.”

    ————

    BINGO!!

    why give Pedro something to fire him up and motivate him?

    the BEST thing Yanks fans could do is give him absolute silence, as if they couldn’t care less about the guy.

    Pedro wants to be the center of attention. Why grant him his wish?

  161. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    I agree on Gardner on cf and melky in rf. It would have at least been exciting to see an attempted bunt to throw lee off. He was in a groove.

  162. tuck321 October 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Been a Yankee fan for about 3 years. Dislike the Phillies not because they are playing the Yankees but because they are part of something terrible. Systemic cheating in sports. May have seen 1 pitch track tonight. Hughes was given no strike zone at all. The same thing that has been going on all though the playoffs. I want the Yankees to win but they got the same treatment playing Twins and Angels. One way strike zones. Not simply a problem for one season. If something is not done this can kill baseball and all professional sports. Not a good night and I am sorry. BOL

  163. MikeyU October 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    Imback,

    Your posts are impossible. The O needs to score too. If you want to play stupid be my guest

  164. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am

    And thus the motive for Imbacks gallant defense of Trisha becomes crystal clear. :mad:

  165. Comet October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    It’s one game. The Phillies are the WS Champs. Did you think we’d just walk over them? This is going to be tough series. We’ve come back all year. If we don’t come back then we lose to the better team, but we will come back and win this thing!

    Comet

  166. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Time to win the next 2 games and turn it around.

    Lee won’t pitch game 4 even down 2-1.

    We can win that too with CC.

    Lee-Gaudin in game 4, well….

    I’ll take my chances coming home up 3-2.

    If Lee goes game 5, he wont pitch game 7.

  167. DC12 October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    I’m not spending my Haoween watching this pathetic team. They don’t care about winning, so why should we? Enjoy you’re Halloween guys, don’t watch us flail away at Cole Hamels 87 MPH slop while going down 3=0

    Wish I could bring better news. but this is the reality of the situation.

  168. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    i meant lee-gaudin in game 5

  169. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Imback
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:25 am
    Posadas is an out nearly 8 out of every ten at bats in postseason. His bat does not make or break series. However aj’s pitching does. Therefore you go with Molina. Morons.
    ===

    How about you get lost, bud?

    You should have had your sorry butt thrown out of here for the sexist BS you posted to Betsy, who is worth a 100 of you.

    Your clueless comments and catcher dilletantism dig you deeper and deeper into a hole.

    Glad I missed this BS in here and was actually at the game, where real ballplayers, who are good enough to earn their living at baseball, played in a World Series game – rather than in here listening to blowhards like you who hold a Yankee fan base hostage in here with your toughguy, cliched pablum.

    If you don’t like Posada, why don’t you root for another team he’s not on. No one wants to listen to your offbase BS about a beloved Yankee after the team has lost a WS game.

    Get lost, you dumb piece of crap.

  170. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    Wasn’t the year of the daddy comment 2004? Hasn’t Pedro sort of taken care of that? Let’s just try to string three hits in a row. Has that happened other than the six run inning that we lost anyway vs angels?

  171. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    And its apparently got some latent homophobia issues going on too. How provincial.

  172. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    I don’t care who they put in RF but it can’t be Swish. Enough is enough already with the automatic outs. Girardi can pick from Hairston, Hinske or Gardner. I would go with Gardner. Hopefully he can hit Pedro’s 80 mph fastball and steal if he gets on base.

  173. David Cone's Camera Face October 29th, 2009 at 12:50 am

    DC12
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 am
    I’m not spending my Haoween watching this pathetic team. They don’t care about winning, so why should we? Enjoy you’re Halloween guys, don’t watch us flail away at Cole Hamels 87 MPH slop while going down 3=0

    Wish I could bring better news. but this is the reality of the situation
    ————————
    goodbye. we need less of these people.

  174. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Wow. Angry much bodhi? Posada wouldn’t pee on you if you were on fire. Your man crush is a little sad. And nice try with the sexist line. Trying to get ne banned. Like you guys aren’t sexist towards Trisha ever? You are pretty pathetic to get this worked up over a game loser.

  175. LAYankee October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Relax. It’s one game. It’s called a series for a reason. Teams do bounce back from losing one game; it’s been done.

  176. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    100 pitches

    joe has stuck with swish all year and funny he was brought here to platoon with Nady.

    he needs to shake things up, billy martin would have.

  177. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am

    “Time to win the next 2 games and turn it around.

    Lee won’t pitch game 4 even down 2-1.

    We can win that too with CC.”

    —————

    honestly, this is the way all of us should be thinking.

    even down 2-1, you hope CC can beat Blanton and tie it up at 2-2.

    In a 3 game series, with 2 games at home, anything can happen.

    Does anybody here believe the Yanks are underdogs in the next 2 games? I sure don’t.

  178. Angel - A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing October 29th, 2009 at 12:53 am

    honestly, this is the way all of us should be thinking.

    even down 2-1, you hope CC can beat Blanton and tie it up at 2-2.

    In a 3 game series, with 2 games at home, anything can happen.

    Does anybody here believe the Yanks are underdogs in the next 2 games? I sure don’t.
    **********************************
    Nope, I don’t. And on that positive thought, I’m going to bed.

  179. Concerned_Citizen October 29th, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Night all.

  180. Bronx Bombers Girl October 29th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    G’nite all. Game 2 is a new day! Go Yankee’s!!

  181. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:54 am

    Wow. Full attack mode on me huh boys? And when does a new York blog have to be 100% politically correct? Jesus. I’m just stating a factual case for benching a career 230 avg batter who is horribly defensively and on basepaths in ws. Now I’m a homophobic sexist? Hilarious.

  182. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:55 am

    I don’t think there is one real Yankee or baseball fan in here that thinks this is over.

    It;s not like Koufax and Drysdale are coming up next.

    It’s Pedro, who if we don’t beat we prob. deserve to lose, and hamels. Game 4, who knows, prob. not Lee.

    we go home either up 3-2 or down 3-2.

    if manuel throws lee in game 5, that should be the last of him.

  183. Dr Mustard October 29th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Swisher has to go….We cant afford to carry automatic outs, or this series will be over before it starts

  184. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    so when can i start rooting for a rain delay in game 5?

    (which would eliminate the need for Gaudin, allowing AJ and Andy to both pitch twice, while not allowing Lee to pitch 3 times)

    I’ll start now… please, please, please, please!!! :)

  185. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    he needs to shake things up, billy martin would have.
    —————-

    Agree. There is absolutely no reason to not give Gardner a start tomorrow. It’s not like Swish is an all star and you can’t possibly take him out of the lineup. He is giving you nothing this whole post season. Added to Molina tomorrow that is 2 pitchers at the bottom.

  186. MikeyU October 29th, 2009 at 12:57 am

    Imback,

    As I stated if you want to play stupid, be my guest.
    Yeah lets have Molina’s bat the rest of the series. REAL BRIGHT.

  187. mick October 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    boston dave

    if lee pitches game 5, he would have to come back on 2 days rest in game 7

  188. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    re: Swisher

    I’d have no problem whatsoever with Hinske going tomorrow.

    He’s a capable bat and it may light a fire under Swisher. If the Yanks take the lead or if Hinske doesn’t have good AB’s, you pull him.

    what’s the harm?

  189. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    Pedro is easy beatable. 7 innings vs Rockies is not Yankees. Molina plays bc posad. Bats 180 vs Pedro.

    I repeat:.180

  190. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 am

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    Pedro’s going down manana.

    It’ll be raining mangos!

  191. Bronx Bombers Girl October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 am

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    “UPDATE, 12:47 a.m.: This will shock everyone. Girardi would not say who’s starting at catcher tomorrow. “We’ll talk about it, I’ll sleep on it, and we’ll have a lineup when I get here tomorrow.””

  192. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 am

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    right, I’m saying there would be no way for Lee to pitch 3 gaemes.

    the only way Lee gets 3 games is if there is a rain delay in game 2, game 3, or game 4.

    that’s why I picked game 5 :)

  193. TL October 29th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    Remember, we lost the first two games in 1996 against the Atlanta Braves. They had the best pitching in the MLB – Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz.

    Yankees lost 12-1 and 4-0, then went on to win the World Series in six games.

  194. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    “Molina plays bc posad. Bats 180 vs Pedro. ”

    ———

    Posada bats .180 against the 1998-2001 Pedro.

    What is his average against the National League Pedro?

    just like the Yanks averages against Cliff Lee pre-2008 before he was good, what use are they now that he is a different pitcher?

    not much.

  195. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    On one hand you guts want to replace swisher with hinske (I don’t disagree neccessarily) yet freak about posada who is less a player offensively than swisher and bats 230 in playoffs being replaced. It’s hypocritical and inconsistent. You can’t argue one and other.

  196. mick October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    now that you mention it Dave, it would be better for lee to start game 5 and get it rained in the 5th or so, then he only pitches 1 game , right?

  197. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    This will shock everyone. Girardi would not say who’s starting at catcher tomorrow
    ———————-

    Everyone knows that Molina is catching AJ tomorrow. Girardi just loves attention and making a big deal out of nothing. Just like when he said that he might play Matsui in the outfield. Only an idiot wouldn’t know that Matsui can’t even move let alone play the outftield.

  198. haiku-man October 29th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Look at it this way.CC gave up 2 runs(seemed to labor) and Lee gave up 1 run.
    The problem was after CC,the Pen was shoddy!

  199. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Boston Dave- that’s a stupid argument. Sorry.

  200. stuart a October 29th, 2009 at 1:04 am

    posada needs to catch tommorrow unless philly catches paul bako!!!!!!!!!!

    yep catching Molina is that stupid… Tell AJ not to think(probably not to hard for him to accomodate me on that one) and throw what jorge says.

    the guy basically has 2 pitches and has been pitching as a pro for about 8 yrs. can he figure it out yet??????

  201. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    Molina plays bc posad. Bats 180 vs Pedro.
    ————————-

    That was the Pedro from 89 years ago. Not the old fart that will be taking the mound tomorrow.

  202. NY24 October 29th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    “Boston Dave- that’s a stupid argument. Sorry.”

    & your arguments aren’t?

  203. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    Molina is a guaranteed out 100% of the time, and 99% of the time on the first pitch.

  204. mick October 29th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    we win 2morrow dassit.

    im out.

  205. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    Pedro is going to be throwing a ton of off speed pitches. He throws his changeup a ton now. I really hope he doesn’t fool them with changing speeds. Gardner would be a good option to play so maybe he can flick some pitches into CF.

  206. disco stu October 29th, 2009 at 1:09 am

    With the off day in between Game 2 and Game 3, I have to believe that if the Yankees have the lead in the 8th inning in each game, Mo is going to be asked to get 6 outs each time. Losing tonight changes the road map to victory now. We can’t be down 2-0 heading to Philly, so you have to maximize Mo at all cost tomorrow. If we can get thru Game 2 with a win, I have faith that Andy will pitch well in Game 3 and along with Hamels being very hittable right now, I like our chances of getting back on serve after 3 games.

    I also think that if we can bounce back and go up 2-1, I really believe that Lee is going to pitch Game 4. I dont see how Manuel would throw Blanton out there and give the Yankees a chance to go up 3-1 with CC going on short rest. It would also destroy any chance of starting Lee in Game 7 if his 2nd start is in Game 5 (unless he pulls a Sandy Koufax circa 1965 and pitches on 2 days rest).

  207. LAYankee October 29th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    I agree with the comments that keeping Gardner on the bench b/c of Swisher is bizarro. And why not make Hinske the DH – Matsui is in a fog. Girardi is managing the team like a friend who does not want to hurt any starters feeling – it’s not what he is paid to do and is not what got us here in the first place. We’ve been carried by pitching and the lineup has had dead zones the entire postseason. Tomorrow could not come soon enough.

  208. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    That was also a 28 yr old posada that could get around on fastball but still couldn’t hit off speed. Pedro will throw balls down and in and k posada three times.

  209. Jeremy October 29th, 2009 at 1:15 am

    They have to win today. If they don’t win today this series is over. The Yankees have to win this game in order to have a chance.

  210. Imback October 29th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Who here honestly thought posada was going to get a hit in 9 th inning and not flail at pitch in dirt AS HE ALWAYS DOES? Don’t lie to yourself. Goodnight

  211. Jeremy October 29th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    Posada does swing at garbage breaking pitches down and in too much. A number of the Yankee hitters need to have a better approach.

  212. haiku-man October 29th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    I hate the “Yet”,by Eiland it was not necessary.

  213. disco stu October 29th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    “They have to win today. If they don’t win today this series is over. The Yankees have to win this game in order to have a chance.”

    It is stating the obvious, but so very true. This isnt 1996 when the Yankees dropped the first 2 to Atlanta and then stormed them 4 straight. That team had the two-headed monster of Mo/Wetteland and the Braves did not have anything close to the lineup the Phillies have.

    The Yankees cannot lose tomorrow … if they do, I just dont see how they can win 4 out 5 against this team.

    Like I said before, if we have a lead heading into the 8th inning (unless it is a blowout), you have to go to Mo.

    The one good thing about tonight’s loss is that Mo wasnt used. So he is locked and loaded after not having pitched since Sunday.

    Pitch him for two innings, use the off day to get him a breather and then have him ready to potentially get another 6 out save in Game 3.

    That is the formula I see for the next 2 games … get back home field advantage heading into Game 4 and all of a sudden the Phillies are back on their heels.

  214. RSM October 29th, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Tonight was frustrating, but what’s with all the panic?
    And tomorrow is NOT a “must win game”.
    Stop the nonsense.
    The 1996 Braves had a much better pitching staff than the 2009 Phillies and utterly dominated the Yankees in the 1st two games of the 1996 World Series. How’d that one turn out?

  215. NY24 October 29th, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Who here honestly thought posada was going to get a hit in 9 th inning and not flail at pitch in dirt AS HE ALWAYS DOES? Don’t lie to yourself. Goodnight

    Yes Goodnight, & don’t come back here.

  216. Boston Dave - 4 wins til 27 October 29th, 2009 at 1:36 am

    “It is stating the obvious, but so very true. This isnt 1996 when the Yankees dropped the first 2 to Atlanta and then stormed them 4 straight.”

    ————-

    but it IS the team that was 7-2 in the playoffs prior to this game.

    they can still win the series down 0-2, of course, the liklihood drops a bit.

    Lee was dominant.

    but this Phillies team wasn’t unbeatable this season. They didn’t have the best record in their league.

    As Arnold said in Predator “if it bleeds, we can kill it”

    the Phillies bleed, a lot, Yanks just need to close the deal.

  217. Paul C October 29th, 2009 at 1:41 am

    RSM
    Did the 96 Yankees have a bull pen?
    Did they have a head case# 2 pitcher?
    Did the bats go dead?
    Did they go 8 innings without scoring?
    Did they look scared and tight too?

  218. disco stu October 29th, 2009 at 1:44 am

    Hey Boston Dave –

    I hear ya and yes, if the Yankees are down 0-2 heading to Philly, the series is not “over” because they Phillies still need to win 2 more games.

    However, my feeling is that in avoiding going dowin 0-2 tomorrow by pitching Mo two innings to close out a win, we set ourselves up to swing the series back in our favor heading into Game 3. I have tremendous faith that Andy will be dealing on Saturday night … and … I also believe that Hamels will continue to be the Phillies “weakest link” and give the Yankees plenty of chances to score.

    But again, it all gets set in motion by winning tomorrow … it is a double-win … they avoid being dangerously close to being out of the series and have a huge pitching advantage going into Game 3, even if they are on the road.

  219. lil' m October 29th, 2009 at 2:27 am

    Beatdown mercifully over . . . The Yankee lineup can return to form tomorrow against Pedro. They’ll wait out his soft shoe routine and then score against him and/or the Phillies bullpen. But Bronx Jeers, point taken – Pedro’s got nothing to lose. The Yankees want to be their usual patient selves, not help him out, and see if he doesn’t get tired and have to leave early.

    It’s got to be unpleasant to get slapped around like this, but the offense should be restored to health in game 2. I hope AJ — whom I love, rollercoaster outings and all — comes up aces. Seven strong and the bullpen closes it out. And if he feels moved to throw a complete game shutout, we’ll take it, no questions asked.

    And to the Posada haters: we’re lucky to have him. Lucky, and it will be a huge loss to the team the day he retires. The amount of knee-jerk antipathy and casual ingratitude toward this stalwart member of the rightfully revered Core Four is as astounding as it is unfounded. You’d think that switch hitting catchers with patience, power, durability and championship-tested mettle who can play and win in the 24/7/365 pressure-cooker that is the New York Yankees just grow on trees. Wow. Apparently there’s no limit to the blindness of some so-called Yankee fans.

    The Yanks can turn things around quickly with good at-bats and timely hitting. A potent offense has a way of covering a multitude of issues, including the great-one-minute/downright-scary-the-next thrill ride that is middle relief. And to state the obvious, they’ll need to find a way to deal with Cliff Lee, who flat-out suffocated them. Nothing but love for CC, who managed to keep them to 2 runs without his best stuff. The Yankees definitely aren’t done by a longshot. Heck (see Terms of Service) no. They’re tough, resilient, fearless and tireless. When they have a bad game, and this was a bad one, they don’t immediately freak out or give up. Until I see otherwise, I expect they’ll be be back and better than ever, because they know more than anyone that there’s no crying in baseball. Kicking water coolers, cursing a blue streak on the way back to the dugout after grounding out to short, you betcha, but no crying. That’s so not how they roll. Like the man said, not over till it’s over, and we have just gotten started. Chin up. GO Yanks.

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