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Flash Points: John Flaherty breaks down the Game 2 pitching match-up

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Former Yankee and current YES Network analyst John Flaherty has agreed to break down the pitching match-up for every Yankees postseason game exclusively on the LoHud Yankees blog. Be sure to check him out on the pre- and post-game show on YES today. Here’s his take on the Game 2 starters:

YANKEES: RHP A.J. Burnett

WHAT’S HE THROW? “Two kinds of fastballs, the big power curve and a rare change-up.”

BREAKDOWN: “Early on in the postseason A.J. did a good job getting ahead in the count with strike one, but then against the Angels they changed it up and were attacking him. He adjusted after that first inning, but you wonder if the Phillies will do that again. Normally they’re a patient team, so I think the first time through the order they’ll wait and see if A.J. can throw the ball over the plate.

“Don’t forget, too, that this is the most pressure A.J. has faced this postseason. This is his first time pitching after a loss. He’s going to be jacked up and needs to control his emotions, particularly since you know the Phillies are going to make the running game a big part of what they do. They’ve got Davey Lopes over there (coaching first base) and he’s the best baserunning instructor in the game, so look for them to try and rattle A.J. on the basepaths as much as they can. He needs to fight through that and stay cool.”

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PHILLIES: RHP Pedro Martinez

WHAT’S HE THROW? “Fastball, curveball, change-up.”

BREAKDOWN: It’s still the same pitches but the fastball isn’t mid-90’s anymore, it’s upper 80s. His best pitch is the change-up and the curveball he can drop in for a strike or a strikeout if he needs it. The arsenal is the same it’s just not as nasty as it was in his best days. That being said, his greatest asset is his mind – he can read swings. He knows what he’s doing. I absolutely expect him to show up tonight.

“The crowd? It’ll be crazy, but I think Pedro’s greatest strength is that he’s been there, done that. He’s not going to be intimidated. think that’s why Manuel threw him in this game, instead of Cole Hamels.

“In terms of beating him, it’s the same formula: Work him and get him out. What’s good for the Yankees is that Instead of years ago, where you couldn’t really sit on one pitch, I think the Yankees can sit soft stuff now. I think they can look for that change-up and look for that curveball and still be able to do something with that fastball because it’s not as fast as it was before. I think the Yankees have a little advantage in that they don’t have to worry about that velocity as much. Those six or seven mph are huge, and the Yankees can try and sit on the soft stuff and attack when they get it.”

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EDGE: “This is an absolutely fascinating game to me. I guess I would give a slight edge to the Phillies because this is a freebie for Pedro basically. They’ve already got their one game they wanted in New York and there’s no pressure on him now. With Burnett, would anyone be surprised either way? If he went out and dealt, I wouldn’t be surprised – this is what they brought him to New York to do. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t that effective, particularly if he lets his emotions get too much in the way. Whatever happens, it’s going to be a really, really intriguing night.”

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282 Responses to “Flash Points: John Flaherty breaks down the Game 2 pitching match-up”

  1. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    So where was yesterdays?

    Repost

    From Boston extra bases

    Yankee ‘fans’ are jokes. They’re frontrunners and cowards. Oh, they’re good for gloating when they have a big lead, but not much else.

    You won’t find them on this site again until their team gets some traction. Right now, they’re hiding under their sofas. Doesn’t take much to send them into a panic.

  2. Paco Dooley October 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    This is an absolutely fascinating match-up.

    My main question is: will Pedro look like the pitcher of old, or just an old pitcher.

  3. Heyya October 29th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    The thing that I, as well as everyone else, is that there is NO way in knowing which AJ will come out to pitch a givin’ night. He can pitch a no hitter, or give up 4 runs in he 1st inning. It’s disheartening.

  4. pat October 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Nothing makes the Yankees line-up look worse than a pitcher who has good off-speed stuff. Give me a fastball/slider pitcher against them any day.

    Last night, CC pitched well enough to win 99% of the time. Last night was the 1% of the time that he needed to match 0′s because Lee was so baffling the offense. It didn’t happen. Turn the page.

    Yanks offense sometimes seems conflicted on whether to be aggressive or be patient and try to get a pitcher out of the game sooner. They need to make adjustments based on the stuff the guy on the mound has that night quicker.

    The offense hasn’t stepped in against 2009 Pedro so it may take them an inning or 2 to figure out what they are dealing with now opposed to what they are used to seeing from him. Hopefully they can figure that out early in the game.

    Yanks need AJ to step up today. Like the 15 inning game against Boston, 0 runs kind of step up.

  5. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Lack of Flash Points might have been the difference last night.

    Tonight we got ‘em!

  6. playballnyy October 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    just one thing to say– Flash gave Lackey the edge over CC for ALCS game 1
    whatever

  7. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 29th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Think about it this way:

    If Pedro were on the Yankees right now he probably would not even have made the World Series roster. Instead for the Phillies he is starting game 2.

  8. playballnyy October 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    why did I say it twice :) Man, I really need to get some work done, this is getting ridiculous.

  9. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    I don’t know about that, let’s go yankees. This is a team that might give a World Series start to Chad Gaudin.

  10. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    We play tonight, we win tonight. Das it.

  11. Laura October 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    I don’t believe in “must win” games other than Game 7 of the World Series. The truth of the matter is that tonight is a must win game for the Yankees. We don’t want to go into PHI 0-2. I can’t think of a worse pitcher to be starting this game for us than AJ. That’s mainly because like everyone says, you have no idea which AJ is going to show up. Tonight, the pressure is on him 10 fold. His performance tonight will say a lot about who he is.

  12. betsy October 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    SJ, AJ was not good last out, but how has he been progressively worse? He was much better in game 2 against the Angels than in his game against the Twins.

    I also can not agree that this is the start instead of the end of something. I’m not saying necessarily this is the end, but we have no idea how long our core can keep this up. Jeter? I think he’ll be very good next year – he’s in great shape and I think he can hit forever. Mo? He’s a pitcher – who really knows? He’ll be fine, but probably not lights out. I have no idea what to expect from Posada…..and I don’t think Andy will be as good.

    The Yankees have issues. Cano can not hit in the post-season, nor can he hit with RISP. Is that all of a sudden going to change? Swisher is not a youngster – is he going to get better in the post-season next year?

    Phil is a real concern at this point. There is no excuse to ever bark at an umpire and to avoid the media. I’m surprised he hasn’t taken more criticism for this. I actually don’t know what to expect of him next year and his mental toughness in this post-season has been questionable.

    The Yankees will still be a good team next year, but I don’t see why they should necessarily be better next year.

  13. MB October 29th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Way to sit on that fence Flash. With that said I am on that fence as well, about what AJ will do.

    I think Pedro gets rocked by the veterans of this lineup. I think Cano, Melky, Swish might have some problems.

    I think AJ could either be an ace or a clown. Which AJ shows up tonight?

  14. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    You gotta be a retard to want Posada catching. Yankee pitching not bad enough you want AJ even more flaky!

    Get a life.

  15. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    What I wouldn’t give to have Andy starting a must win game instead of Burnett.

  16. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    What of Swisher tonight?

    I would think Joe would want Jorge and Hideki’s bats in this game, since they’ve seen alot of Pedro in the day.

    If both of those guys are in, then I want Gardner in CF and Melky in RF. Gardner can slash his way on and stir up trouble on the bases.

    Swisher against Pedro just wouldn’t work.

  17. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Actually I felt is was Erica’s analysis of the Yankees vs. Cliff Lee that unleashed a lethargic confidence into the air and THAT was the difference.

  18. betsy October 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    How about Tex stepping up? He’s done next to nothing in the post-season (aside from that HR).

  19. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Swisher needs to sit. Play Gardner or Hairston. Don’t be afraid to shake things up.

  20. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Nick in SF in Elk Grove
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
    I don’t know about that, let’s go yankees. This is a team that might give a World Series start to Chad Gaudin.

    ———–

    maybe a bit exagerrated, but AT BEST Pedro would be in Gaudin’s position right now.

  21. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    betsy October 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    How about Tex stepping up? He’s done next to nothing in the post-season (aside from that HR).

    ———————

    Bases clearing double in Anaheim. Forgotten in a brutal loss.

  22. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Good point, Bronx Jeers.

    If you’re going to play the blame game, play it right.

  23. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Lee made these batters look like Little Leaguers at the plate. Hope some wounded pride works for some of these slumping guys like Tex and Swisher.

  24. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    AJ should dump the curveball or only rarely show it tonight, as he usually does not have control of it, and just throw hard (95+) fastballs and mix in some changeups. He’s a big guy that can throw very hard, he’ll be amped up tonight, throw the heat.

  25. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    forget swish AND gardner. we have hinske, and we need the pop against the righty.

  26. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Sorry.

    I meant to write Erica’s EXCELLENT! analysis.

    And you can’t blame Flaherty if watching AJ Burnett pitch a baseball makes it feel like you’re sitting on a fence.

  27. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    burnett threw up 4 in the first with molina catching last time. sorry but i dont think that counts as burnett being on his game, no matter what he did 2-6. posada’s bat is important.

  28. Abdababdaserser October 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    So far this post season, Swisher vs. anyone isn’t working.

  29. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
    Actually I felt is was Erica’s analysis of the Yankees vs. Cliff Lee that unleashed a lethargic confidence into the air and THAT was the difference.
    ********

    Okay… I guess I have been fired from actually trying to speak in relevent and factual baseball terms.

  30. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    6 hours and 27 minutes until Game 2!!!!!!

  31. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Can’t put Hinske’s glove in RF – no chance.

    Maybe PH for Gardner later in the game?

    If Swish sits, I would PH Hinske late in the game before I would PH Swish.

  32. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Betsy smarten up. This is the postseason. Good pitching shuts down hitting. Bad pitching doesn’t. Offense doesn’t always shine in the postseason. Didn’t Cano get a real big hit to help win the ALCS?

  33. Alex October 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Funny observation by Jeff Nelson. Going to Philly down 0-2 will not be the same as going to Atlanta down 0-2. (as the Yanks did in 96?) Fans in Atlanta make everyone feel at home. Not in Philly. LOL

  34. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    The changes for tonight have to be Gardner in RF and Posada DH. Swish is a joke get him out of there. I wouldn’t play Hinske because his defense is brutal and they can’t afford to give up runs on defense. Matsui needs to sit he has no life in his bat and looks ancient. I would pitch Robertson in the 8th, I trust him. Marte should be the late inning lefty. He looked very good yesterday and has better breaking pitchers to get the big guys out. Girardi has to make moves to the lineup because these people aren’t getting it done. I hope Girardi has the balls to do it.

  35. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Maybe there was too much cheesesteak chat.

    Man, do I love a good New York pizza! What I wouldn’t give to dine at John’s on Bleeker Street today… mmmmmm good. I’m even wearing a John’s t-shirt right now!

  36. Rose October 29th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    “burnett threw up 4 in the first with molina catching last time. sorry but i dont think that counts as burnett being on his game, no matter what he did 2-6. posada’s bat is important.”

    You are right but I think Girardi will have Molina baby sit AJ and sit Posada. AJ needs to earn his money and have a big game.
    ——————————————
    And Swisher needs to sit, especially with Molina catching. Play Hinske, Gardner or anybody but Swisher. Please.

  37. gfd October 29th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Why on a Yankees blog do we need Flaherty posting in favor of another team?
    We can read this from the rest of the MEDIOTS,slamming the Yankees?

    This blog is pro Yankees in case you forgot!!
    We’re getting thread after thread of doom and gloom,jeesh!

    If you’re aiming for a drop in postings,you’re on the right track.

  38. randy l. October 29th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    great analysis by flash.

    i was surprised the yankees didn’t pick it up quicker that the angels were letting their big guns hack on first pitch with burnett.

    last night watching lee, one thing i noticed was he always tried to throw a first pitch strike but he mixed up his pitches and spotted his fastballs on the corners .

    aj can mix up his pitches better early in the count if the phillies try a simlar approach.

    manuel doesn’t get in the way of the game as much as scoscia so we may not see a lot of unusual strategy ,just old fashioned baseball.

  39. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    No way Molina is catching this game.

    Posada and Matsui will be swinging sticks against Pedro.

  40. Former Box 607 October 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    People seem to think that the Yanks will pound Pedro, but the numbers sugggest otherwise. Everyone on the Yankees lineup has terrible numbers against Pedro except for A-Rod (.291 avg) and Hairston (.370 average). Surprisingly, Hinske is a .267 hitter vs. Pedro. Jeter is at .256. Posada has terrible numbers (but does have 4 Home Runs).

    Phillies are 9-1 in Pedro’s starts this year. The Yanks need to wait him out and I pray that Good A.J. shows up. Down 0-2 is not the place anyone wants to be.

  41. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    No way Molina is catching this game?

    I’d guess there’s a 3-1 chance it’ll be Molina. Maybe that’s too pessimistic… 5-2?

  42. youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    BigSix,

    how much you wanna bet MOLINA is catching tonite? what has jorge shown you at the plate lately? no brainer.

  43. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Nick in SF
    What about Lombardis Pizza?

  44. youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Former Box 607,

    how can any of pedro’s stats vs yankees back then be relevant now? that was the pedro who had a 96mph fastball and devastating curve. now he relies heavily on location and gets less than half the amount of swinging strikes he used to. throw those stats in the garbage.

  45. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    No way Molina is catching this game.
    —————-

    If Molina has caught him every time this post season what makes you think tonight is different?

  46. mick October 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    100 pitches

    why would joe suddenly change now? this is how he wants to play it and to change now would be to admit he was wrong, in his mind.

    you must mean gardner in cf and melky in fr.

    look for more of the same today.

    if tex and alex hit we should win…swish will at least go 3 & 2.

  47. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    MR.OCTOBER: what about it?

  48. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Matsui needs to sit he has no life in his bat and looks ancient.

    Out of 7 years with the Yanks, this year Matsui had his 3rd highest OPS and 2nd highest slg%. He doesn’t “need to sit”, Posada needs to catch AJ.

  49. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Nick-
    Just trying to stir up some pizza talk rather than cheesesteak talk!

  50. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    “Why on a Yankees blog do we need Flaherty posting in favor of another team?
    We can read this from the rest of the MEDIOTS,slamming the Yankees?

    This blog is pro Yankees in case you forgot!!
    We’re getting thread after thread of doom and gloom,jeesh!”

    Uh, this is a newspaper blog with professional reporters. This is not a fansite.

  51. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Why are people listing Pedro’s numbers from 40 years ago? He is a different pitcher now with much less stuff you can throw those numbers out the window.

  52. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    My god, does it ever end?

    Just the same mindless drivel from the usual suspect.

    Everything is worse than it seems. Our players stink. The opponent should be feared.

    Why should we be better next year? I guess if your posts are always gloom and doom how could anything get better? Maybe they’ll all get hit by a car tomorrow?

    The act is SO old and tired its ridiculous.

    No one wants to read that garbage anymore.

    Yeah Tex is brutal. His defense, huge walk off HR, and bases clearing double don’t mean anything.

    Cano should be sent down to AAA right? He only had 200 hits, almost 50 doubles, and over 100 runs scored while batting 7th. Oh and who cares about the gold glove defense? That means nothing either.

    Maybe if there were any facts used to back up this nonsense it would be more palatable. To me, its just gibberish.

    Here comes the temper tantrum…. I wonder what I’ll be called today?

  53. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    cashman’s gotta go
    October 29th, 2009 at 11:22 am
    I still think the yankees will win this in 6 or 7 (as long as Cliff Lee doesn’t start 2 of the next 6 games)but…
    everyone keeps talking about how good cashman is – but like i’ve said 1,000 times already its easy to spend uncle steiny’s millions when signing free agents…its the trades you make when time is running out that define how good a GM is…its the willingness to trade MINOR LEAGUERS for bonafide stars that show how much cojones you’ve got..the yankees aren’t the kansas city royals or pittsburgh pirates losing isn’t an option or a stepping stone for the future..
    cashman has zero, zilch, nada cojones…. cliff lee was traded for basically 4 average to above average MINOR LEAGUERS….and he still has a year left on a pretty reasonable contract….yeah lets hold on to hughes, joba, romine, ajax and montero because we all know in 5 years when we don’t have rivera, arod (this years arod anyway) or jeter anymore those guys will more than make up for the drop in talent…simply dumb GM’ing and even dumber vision…
    cliff lee on the yankees eliminates joba and hughes (big deal) and makes the phillies a really average team…it also forces them to trade for halladay which would deplete their farm system and gets halladay out of the AL east…VISION….
    the yankees now have to hope Lee doesn’t start 2 more games AND have to count on AJ Bleepin Burnett to pitch a great game tonight…so dumb….
    I agree 100%. I kept saying to anyone that would listen on the trade deadline that it was completely unacceptable for Cash to sit there and do nothing. Why is everyone such a prospect hugger? The time to win is now! If they had made the trade for Lee or even Halladay, the Yankees could’ve won 2 or 3 WS titles in a row.
    I still think they’ll win this series, but it’s alot more uncertain having to rely on AJ tonight. I’d much rather Cash had stacked the deck for both this year and the next couple of years.

  54. mick October 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Jump on Pedro 1st inning. Jeter, Damon, Tex 3 run HR…end of gloom and doom.

  55. Mel Hall October 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    This game is a must win for the Yankees. If we don’t win it is just another lost season and was good as finishing last.

  56. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    erica, when is gtlu?

  57. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    burnett threw up 4 in the first with molina catching last time. sorry but i dont think that counts as burnett being on his game, no matter what he did 2-6. posada’s bat is important.

    He sucks on the road. You see the score last night? Your pitching gets pounded a cold bat ain’t gonna help you. Posada’s bat is dog crap if the games outta reach. You wanna lose the game? Throw Posada with Burnett.

  58. Robbykid October 29th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Mel Hall:

    Shouldnt you be in jail?

  59. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    zmaster!
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    erica, when is gtlu?
    *****

    2:30-4pm (I changed to the time cause the line up got leaked just after 4 yesterday)

  60. lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins) October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Former Box 607
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    People seem to think that the Yanks will pound Pedro, but the numbers sugggest otherwise. Everyone on the Yankees lineup has terrible numbers against Pedro except for A-Rod (.291 avg) and Hairston (.370 average). Surprisingly, Hinske is a .267 hitter vs. Pedro. Jeter is at .256. Posada has terrible numbers (but does have 4 Home Runs).

    —————————–

    You do realize Pedro used to be the best pitcher in baseball and will go down as one of the best of all time. Those numbers are meaningless now.

  61. thunderzz October 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Im not worried about Pedro. Im worried about Burnett

  62. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    “This game is a must win for the Yankees. If we don’t win it is just another lost season and was good as finishing last.”

    This sort of mentality is depressing.

    Yeah, it would be incredibly disappointing to lose the World Series, but this has been a fun team to watch. We haven’t been this deep in the postseason in six years. It’s nice to be worrying about baseball again in the last week of October

    Anyone who witnessed last year, or anyone who remembers the Stump Merrill era, or even people who go back to the CBS days, appreciates what the Yankees achieved this year. Regardless of whether they win 4 more games or not.

  63. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Out of 7 years with the Yanks, this year Matsui had his 3rd highest OPS and 2nd highest slg%.
    —————

    I am talking about the Matsui in the play offs not 1 month ago.

  64. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    I have a downtown pizza bias because I grew up in the Village. My favorite places for slices are Ben’s on 3rd and MacDougal, Ray’s on 6th Avenue and 11th (for the gooey heeping cheese monstrosity), St Marks Pizza on… I think 3rd Avenue just off St. Marks… and a couple other places I can sort of picture but can’t name.

    I just love how you can walk into any random place have have a decent shot at getting a good-to-great slice of pizza.

  65. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    playballnyy
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    just one thing to say– Flash gave Lackey the edge over CC for ALCS game 1
    whatever

    Flash is an idiot.

    Pedro couldn’t even find a team this season before the Phillies finally gave him a shot. He’s an average pitcher at best. There is simply no reason for why the Yankees shouldn’t be able to smack him around tonight.

    Yes, AJ is a risk who could go either way, but he has much better stuff than Pedro. AJ has also pitched very well in 2/3 of his postseason starts. I think AJ steps up tonight.

    Pretty stupid for Flash to give Pedro the edge.

  66. pat October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    “If we don’t win it is just another lost season and was good as finishing last.”

    I’ve seen lost seasons and even lost decades and any year you make it through the LDS, LCS and are 1 of the last 2 standing it is not a lost season.

  67. Doreen October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Mel Hall -

    Really? REALLY??

    If the Yankees don’t win the World Series, a series that only 2 teams out of 30 get to go to, it was as good as finishing LAST?

    Why bother being a fan? I’m serious. You must have been on life support after the last 5 seasons, and just barely surviving on your own after 2001.

    There is just no pleasing some people. :(

    Yes- Flash’s missing Flash Points were the missing link yesterday. Either that or no David Cone on the YES part of the broadcasts. (Paul O’Neil hadn’t done any coverage in so long I thought he quit.)

  68. youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    gusb. so the 4 runs in the 1st matter more than the body of work w/ molina? nah. gotta keep your pitcher in his comfort level. and posada isnt setting the world on fire with the bat (career 200 hitter in ws). NO BRAINER. if you think molina’s 2 at bats are gonna cost us this game more than having the starter AJ comfortable out there thats nuts.

    btw. do you like when posada stands up on obvious strikes that are a bit up in the zone?

  69. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I have a downtown pizza bias because I grew up in the Village.

    Were your parents hippies?

  70. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Boy it was a good thing Molina was catching AJ in that first inning against the Angels. He did a fantastic job keeping us in the game.

    The act is tired. Posada catches tonight. It’s not a no-brainer for the manager – if it was, it would’ve been announced.

    Posada and Matsui’s bats are needed because Swisher and Melky cannot be counted on to contribute, that’s why.

    I have faith in the TEAM. I dont have faith in Molina, Swisher and Melky at the tail end of this lineup.

  71. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    In Philadelphia you can walk into any random place and have a decent shot of meeting someone being rude and bitter. :(

  72. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    gusb. so the 4 runs in the 1st matter more than the body of work w/ molina? nah. gotta keep your pitcher in his comfort level. and posada isnt setting the world on fire with the bat (career 200 hitter in ws). NO BRAINER. if you think molina’s 2 at bats are gonna cost us this game more than having the starter AJ comfortable out there thats nuts.

    when did I say that? I said he sucks on the road and he’ll go postal with Posada catching him. He needs Molina back there.

  73. Rose October 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Girardi, I think, will have Molina catch AJ. That is Girardi’s mindset. The only way Posada would catch AJ would be if they were playing in Philadelphia, no DH.

  74. Former Box 607 October 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    youronthemark-texeira

    “Throw the stats in the garbage?”

    I don’t believe in that. The past is prologue. You don’t think Pedro is in Cano’s head (0-12)? Pedro knows how to pitch. He’s going to be loose. A.J.’s going to be tighter than a drum.

    Do I think they can ge to Pedro?…Yes. Do I think its going to be a rout?….No. That’s why its so important for A.J. to stay in control and limit the walks and pitch around Howard (who kills Righties). I’m still optomistic about tonight, but if Bad A.J. shows up, this could be over in Philly.

  75. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    “Phil is a real concern at this point. There is no excuse to ever bark at an umpire and to avoid the media. I’m surprised he hasn’t taken more criticism for this. I actually don’t know what to expect of him next year and his mental toughness in this post-season has been questionable.”

    Betsy, I’m concerned about Phil as well. I’m concerned so much that I would give the 8th inning to Robertson.

    However, Phil is only 23 I think. He’ll be fine over the long haul.

    Finally, have you seen how bad the umps have been this year?? There’s always plenty of reasons to bark at the umps! :)

  76. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    gusb: Not really.

  77. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    BigSix HE SUCKS ON THE ROAD. I don’t care if Jesus was catching him. Keep him happy. Give him Molina. He’ll pitch better. NO BRAINER.

  78. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    When I think of the Village I think of hippies. That’s why I asked.

  79. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Jesus won’t be catching him until the meddle of next season at the very earliest.

  80. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    100 pitches of fun…
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    The changes for tonight have to be Gardner in RF and Posada DH. Swish is a joke get him out of there. I wouldn’t play Hinske because his defense is brutal and they can’t afford to give up runs on defense. Matsui needs to sit he has no life in his bat and looks ancient. I would pitch Robertson in the 8th, I trust him. Marte should be the late inning lefty. He looked very good yesterday and has better breaking pitchers to get the big guys out. Girardi has to make moves to the lineup because these people aren’t getting it done. I hope Girardi has the balls to do it.

    What he said.

  81. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I used to think Lomabrdi’s was the gold standard.

    Now they’ve expanded and I think it’s lost something. Last time I went there the crust was so chewy I almost couldn’t eat it.

    True what you say Nick about the random places. The probability of a quality slice is pretty good.

  82. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    gusb –

    Swisher
    Cabrera
    Molina

    That’s not a no-brainer.

  83. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    If Gardner plays it’s in CF, not RF.

  84. Former Box 607 October 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Everyone seems to think that Pedro is a shell of his former self and the Yanks will cake walk. I hope you are right. But the facts are the facts.

    Phillies are 9-1 in Pedro’s starts this year. He went 7 innings giving up only 2 hits to a decent Dodgers lineup. The Phillies are good, and Manuel is no Dope.

    The problem is, no one knows which A.J. will show up, and that’s scary. If Pettitte were on the mound, I would be a lot more comfortable today.

  85. vb03 October 29th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Jesus won’t be catching him until the meddle of next season at the very earliest.

    ——————————-

    Jesus is coming, no doubt. Posada has to retire first, though.

  86. m October 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    I like Flash, but he couldn’t come up with just one more superlative for Pedro? He was a greatest asset AND a greatest strength?

  87. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Actually, I agree with “100 pitches of fun” on everything except having Molina catch.

    The bats need to wake up against Pedro tonight and there’s no way you can have another automatic out in Molina in the lineup.

    Probably a much better chance that Clueless Joe catches Posada than bench Swisher.

    So at least with Po, there’s only 1 automatic out!

  88. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    BigSix get rid of Swisher.

    Don’t you get it? If the pitcher blows it all the bats in the world won’t help. Keep your pitcher happy.

  89. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    I am talking about the Matsui in the play offs not 1 month ago.

    In case you haven’t noticed, several Yankees are not matching their regular season numbers. You want to sit all of them? They wouldn’t be able to field a team.

  90. Bench Swish October 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Pressure is on… and yes… bench Swisher.

  91. The Mozambeast October 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    So i’ve been following this blog for the entire season and I thought I would finally post some Yankee love. I’m a peace corps volunteer in the country of Mozambique(just north of South Africa) and I use my phone everyday to connect to the net to
    1.read this blog
    2. check Yankee news
    3.Check stats and other sports scores
    4.check e-mail from loved ones

    ….In that order.
    Due to the time difference for the playoffs I have woken up at about 2:30 AM to follow the play by play on my phone since I can’t listen to or watch the games. I’ve even taught the kids I work with to say “Go Yankees” in English and if all goes according to plan, I am going to paint a wall of my house with the Yankee logo. Hopefully the next volunteer is a Sox fan. I even have pictures of people in my town wearing my Yankees hat.Yes, I am brainwashing them. Unfortunately my good friend and site mate(who teaches at the secondary school) is a Phillies fan. Needless to say we have a bet going, winner gets food(other than rice and meat) at a restaurant in the provincial capital city.

    Go yanks! With Cole Hamels pitching next, we could easily be up 2-1 three games in. I’m not worried.
    (Sorry. This post would have more opinions on the game and/or stats to back it up, but writing it all on a phone is a lot of work)

  92. TheSportsHernia October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Ah, sweet, sweet Pedro memories:

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivaul.....rtinez.jpg

  93. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    If Jesus can give him the same type of comforting eye hugs that he gets from Molina, it could be a dynamic combo.

  94. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    BigSix HE SUCKS ON THE ROAD. I don’t care if Jesus was catching him. Keep him happy. Give him Molina. He’ll pitch better. NO BRAINER.

    By the same logic, it won’t matter who catches him at home, because he pitches well at home…

  95. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    5 hours and 46 minutes until Game 2!!!!

  96. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    “I like Flash, but he couldn’t come up with just one more superlative for Pedro? He was a greatest asset AND a greatest strength?”

    Pedro Martinez, great pitcher or the greatest pitcher.

  97. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    gusb –

    If you read my posts you’ll note that I want Swisher replaced with Melky in RF, Gardner in CF.

    But in order to make up for the potential of lost offense, keep both Posada and Matsui in the lineup.

    I don’t see enough difference in Burnett’s numbers with Molina – do you?

    It’s a problem, AJ + Posada. But this is a game that will need to be won with offense tonight, going by Burnett’s track record – with Molina or without. He cannot be counted on for 7IP, 2ER.

    Which is why I’d hedge to more offense tonight.

  98. m October 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Mozambeast,

    Good luck on your bet. You should check in more often…after checking for e-mail from your loved ones.

  99. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Great post, Mozambeast! I hope tonight goes well for your sake as much as ours.

  100. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    By the same logic, it won’t matter who catches him at home, because he pitches well at home…

    Yeah tons of funs watching him and Posada arguing the whole game. Shaking their heads at each other the whole game. That’s what we need in the world series.

  101. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    “Yeah tons of funs watching him and Posada arguing the whole game. Shaking their heads at each other the whole game. That’s what we need in the world series.”

    To be fair to Jorge and AJ, usually when that happens it’s only for 3 or 4 innings, not the whole game.

  102. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Nobody wants Molina to catch tonight. But I think the manager has shown that he is scared to make any moves or change things up. So I assume that he will. Just like I assume his boyfriend Swish who can’t get the ball out of the infield will be in DH. Girardi manages like a scared little duck like every inning is the 9th inning.

  103. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Yeah tons of funs watching him and Posada arguing the whole game. Shaking their heads at each other the whole game. That’s what we need in the world series.

    As opposed to Molina making a postseason record for visits to the mound by a catcher in a single game?

    Far too much is made of this. AJ and Posada need to act like mature adults and get on the same page before the game starts. Not so hard to do.

  104. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Maybe Molina will break out of his career long funk with 3 HRs.

  105. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    “Maybe Molina will break out of his career long funk with 3 HRs.”

    Maybe if tonight’s game was 300 innings instead of 9.

  106. m October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Big Six,

    Go back and look at AJ’s first two postseason starts. He may not have gone 7, but he’s capable of putting up zeroes.

    Pitching is the deal. Whether it’s Posada or Molina catching him, try to be positive. Maybe the team bounces back from a rough loss and we win? Stranger things have happened.

  107. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    gusb –

    What makes you think that AJ will turn in a solid effort tonight just because Molina is his catcher?

    And what good will that supposed solid effort do when Molina on offense only serves to shorten our lineup?

  108. The Other Phil (Don't Feed the Trolls!) October 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Good analysis by Flash. I like the honest view, rather than some homer saying “Yanks will pound him!11!11!”

    Lee dominated, not a lot they could do. Get it back and head into Philly even up!

    But I also think it’s time for Swish to sit.

  109. Ralph Kramden October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    A bottom three of Gardner, Cabrera and Molina ain’t gonna scare anyone. Leave Swisher in there. He’s due to get lucky.
    “Step to the back of the bus”

  110. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    When AJ negotiated his contract, Molina should have been part of the deal.

    A 2-1.

    Yanks were robbed.

    Who knew we needed to pay for his woobie, too.

  111. Bench Swish October 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    AJ better be on tonight or this is going to get nasty.

  112. Wave Your Hat October 29th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    I’m as tired of Swisher’s slump as the next guy.

    But I don’t want Hinske’s defense tonight in RF – this game will be close. And I don’t think Gardner stands a chance against Pedro – Gardner’s too inexperienced and Pedro’s too crafty. And Hairston is not the answer.

    Swisher will start, and he needs to turn it around. I’m sure he’s aware of that.

  113. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Far too much is made of this. AJ and Posada need to act like mature adults and get on the same page before the game starts. Not so hard to do.

    Tooth fairy is busy tonight. Yeah ask the headcase and the hardhead to be mature adults with the pressure of the world seires to boot. Tell ya what. Experiment with that some other month.

  114. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    “What makes you think that AJ will turn in a solid effort tonight just because Molina is his catcher?”

    There are no guarantees either way.

    But I will say this, AJ Burnett is a guy who loses his head when the pressure builds, and Molina is the kind of catcher who’ll talk his player through it, not get frustrated like Posada does. I love Jorge but he doesn’t have a good track record in dealing with different personalities. He’s clashed with Cone, El Duque, Mussina, and Johnson. AJ isn’t the first pitcher he’s struggled to connect with. Cone still takes veiled shots at Posada during his segments on YES.

    That said. You want Posada in there because of his experience against Pedro. Burnett should be kept on a tight leash and Aceves needs to be ready.

  115. m October 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Bench Swish
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    AJ better be on tonight or this is going to get nasty.
    ========================================

    Because AJ was scheduled to start every game and make at least 27 plate appearances in each game?

  116. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Where is the faith people?

    Who cares how A.J. has performed up to this point. This is the biggest game of his career. The playoffs are a cra pshoot. A.J. does have nasty stuff. It is the pinstripes. It is the world series. A.J. could throw a no hitter tonight!

  117. 100 pitches of fun... October 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    In case you haven’t noticed, several Yankees are not matching their regular season numbers. You want to sit all of them?
    ——————–

    No, but if Molina is catching tonight then I would pick Posada over Matsui to DH. I think he has looked much better at the plate and I want his bat in the lineup over Matsui’s.

  118. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    What makes you think that AJ will turn in a solid effort tonight just because Molina is his catcher?

    And what good will that supposed solid effort do when Molina on offense only serves to shorten our lineup?

    Because he does better with Molina as his catcher. Period. Another no brainer. The team with the most runs in the majors shouldn’t depend on one bat. That bat hasn’t even been hot.

  119. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    JasonR, it was only a joke. Molina should not and probably will not be starting. Aceves should be ready….for what, his date with Single A next year or his new team’s minor league system.

  120. Carla October 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    I really hope Pedro’s presence brings some spark to the Stadium…

    I was there last night, and the crowd was DEAD. Granted the Yankees didn’t provide too much excitement, but for my first ever World Series game, I was sorely disappointed by the atmosphere :(

  121. m October 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Re-read the flash points. So Pedro doesn’t have primo stuff or throw very hard anymore, but he gets the edge because this game is a freebie for him? :?

  122. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Tino sat for Fielder.

    Boggs sat for Hayes.

    Fielder sat for Strawberry.

    Chad Curtis sat for Ricky Ledee who sat for Tim Raines who sat for Shane Spencer.

    I think tonight Swisher can sit for Gardner.

  123. cashman's gotta go October 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    raymagnetic
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
    Cashman’s gotta go,

    If you’re still here, some people would say it took vision for Cashman not to trade Hughes and IPK for Santana and wait a year for CC to become a free agent.

    Now they have CC, IPK and Hughes. While Santana is looking like he’ll soon break down.

    If Cashman was unwilling to pay the price for Santana who was a better pitcher for longer than Lee what on earth makes you think he’s going to trade for Lee?

    The Yankees have 3 starters and yet have made it to the World Series.
    ==========================================================
    Raymagnetic – sorry for answering on a different thread..work beckoned…

    so if you’re going on the “Cashman had Vision” by not trading for santana..then I reply by saying ..so his vision was to make IPK and Hughes starters last year when they obviously had no justification to be handed those spots? Because if he was a genius by not trading for santana then he was dolt for thinking he could have 2 Double A starters starting – with zero or very little major league experience… thats what i’m talking about with this guy..

    OK so you don’t want to give up your precious minor leaguers (who haven’t done anything special in the minors or majors by the way) for santana – i get that…but at least sign a good starter (or trade for one) to have them ready in case IPK and Hughes spit the bit…which they did…so what does he do he goes and signs Sid Bleeping Ponson AGAIN…. This is the guy you want running your company?!?!? this is the vision he had..sidney ponson was his Plan B?!?!

    Its easy to go to CC’s house with a chart – the shart shows the yankees giving him 160 million dollars and there is no one else on the chart – a MONKEY can do that….

    Ruben Amaro Jr out Gm’d our genius GM…. He had the balls to know that his World Series Champion Phillies needed more pitching and decided that who cares what his minor leaguers will do in 2013…he has a great chance to win THIS YEAR and did what he had to do….cashman went out and got Chad Gaudin….but kudos to him he didn’t have to give up any of his precious minor leaguers…

    as for Lee not being as good as santana..different year different situation….a good GM understands that – what worked last year may not work this year…even if the yankees win the WS this year (and as i said i still think they will)are you comfortable with Joba and Hughes in the starting rotation next year..i’m not – thats history repeating itself…and you know what they say about people that don’t learn about history repeating…oh and Lee won the Cy Young award last year so i’m not sure where you’re getting that he isn’t as good as santana…and he’s younger!!

  124. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    It’s time for another thrilling round of postseason “Guess the Line Up”

    Post players AND POSITIONS here (or any new threads that pop up) until the sooner of 4pm or the line up getting leaked. No late submissions allowed. No revisions.

    Good luck players!

  125. vin October 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    “Maybe Molina will break out of his career long funk with 3 HRs.”

    I like it…

    Jose Martinez Molina!

  126. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    You all need to cool it and have a little more faith in your team.

    Stop getting down on AJ and Molina and whoever else.

    The team will go into the game with a plan and hopefully they will execute it.

    Step back from the ledge.

  127. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    The crowd at the stadium was disgraceful last night. I still thought we could come back in the bottom 9 down 6 runs.

    That was Game 1 World Series. Only 6 more games left at most for the season, and youre skedaddling in the 6th inning.

    Putred.

  128. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Warning: I need to leave my apartment around 4:15 today. If the line up is late, I will have to award the winner(s) much, much later tonight

  129. Patrick October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Look, I’m all for benching Swisher IF the Yankees had any decent alternatives. Do you really want to bench him for Hinske, Hairston or Gardner? I certainly don’t.

  130. Ralph Kramden October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Jason,
    “Posada should be in there because of his track record against Pedro” Jorge is a lifetime .210 hitter against Pedro.

  131. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    A.J. Burnett throws a no-hitter tonight.

    You heard it here first.

  132. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Erica –

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Texeira 1B
    Arod 3B
    Posada C
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera RF
    Gardner CF

  133. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    “I don’t know if you realize this,” Martinez told a crowded room of reporters during his news conference in anticipation of his Game 2 start Thursday, “but because of you guys in some ways, I might be at times the most influential player that ever stepped in Yankee Stadium.”

    One thing’s for sure. Pedro isn’t lacking in arrogance.

  134. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Molina should not and probably will not be starting.

    If he does it makes you look pretty stupid. If he doesn’t Girardi needs to be fired. This isn’t about Posada’s bat that’s cold anyway. HE PITCHES BETTER WITH MOLINA. Much more important at this point.

  135. DB October 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    On ething is for CERTAIN tonight. We get a taste of the vaunted Phillies bullpen. The old formula when Pedro was in his hayday was to make him work, get him tired, then start picking him apart in the 6th. They would then put the game away in the later innings when Boston’s BP imploded.

    I see this formula as the key to success tonight. Pedro is not going the complete game. Burnett just has to keep it close.

  136. vin October 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Erica,

    Jeter ss
    Damon lf
    Tex 1b
    Alex 3b
    Posada c
    Matsui dh
    Cano 2b
    Swisher rf
    Melky cf

    Second verse, same as the first. I’m kind of hoping Girardi does flip Posada and Matsui, but I don’t think he will. And, obviously, I hope Jorge catches.

  137. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    cashman’s gotta go,

    I am personally unconcerned with 2010′s lineup or rotation right now because the Yankees are in the WORLD SERIES.

    But I have to comment on the Santana bit:
    A) he just broke down
    B) Hughes has been tremendous for us this year and will only get better
    C) Kennedy and Hughes into the rotation in 2008 was an experiment that failed at the beginning of a season in which most fans and analysts were completely aware of the likelihood that they would very well miss the playoffs.

    The Yankees have spent spent spent in years past and I believe part of the reason they didn’t make the Santana trade was because they finally realized the value of home grown talent. They can still spend when necessary (CC and AJ) without completely decimating their farm and young, cheap talent via blockbuster trades.

    With all this, I have a theory that one of Hughes or Chamberlain will be involved in a trade this offseason for Felix Hernandez or possibly Roy Halladay. Just a hunch. But right now, this is all hearsay and neither here nor there.

  138. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    vin
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Second verse, same as the first. I’m kind of hoping Girardi does flip Posada and Matsui, but I don’t think he will. And, obviously, I hope Jorge catches.
    ******

    LOVE the Henry the 8th reference. When I was a little girl my dad made up a song called “Erica the First” that went to the tune of that song

  139. DB October 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Ralph Kramden
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
    Jason,
    “Posada should be in there because of his track record against Pedro” Jorge is a lifetime .210 hitter against Pedro.

    Not in his most recent stats with him he’s not. Those two have been facing eacher for 13 years.

  140. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    From ESPN (more garbage, as usual)

    The bidding for Chapman likely will be competitive, but ESPN’s Peter Gammons believes the Red Sox might have an X factor: shortstop Jose Iglesias.

    The 19-year-old Iglesias, who was the best shortstop in Cuba and a longtime teammate of Chapman’s, signed with the Red Sox this summer and now is playing in the Arizona Fall League.

    Hey Peter, do you have the edge in how intimate you’ve gotten with the Red Sox and the opponents of the Yankees, or does Joe Buck and Tim Mc have that honor.

    I miss Bob Costas on NBC Baseball.

  141. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    CR 9,

    I felt compelled to respond to your post about Extra Bases at the start of this thread.

    Red Sox fans are a laugh riot especially when they’re dining on sour grapes.

  142. upstate kate October 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    M
    I agree w/ Flash. The away team is usually happy to split and Lee already took care of that, so much less pressure for Pedro. And he is certainly right about AJ needing to control his emotions.
    That being said, I have faith in AJ. He does pitch better at home. And maybe I am “misremembering” but early in the season, wasn’t AJ the stopper when CC was struggling?

  143. zmaster! October 29th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Erica,
    Jeter-SS
    Damon-LF
    Tex-1b
    A-rod-3b
    Matsui-dh
    Posada-c
    Cano-2B
    melky-rf
    Gardner-cf

  144. Blackaccord October 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    My lineup…

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Texeira 1B
    Arod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Hairston RF
    Cabrera CF
    Molina C

  145. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    PEDRO tonight
    HAMEL tomorrow
    can very well = Yankees 2 and Phillies 1
    The way CC was barking at himself for the two Utley mistakes I would hand him the ball for game 4 on short rest and tell him go get those two mistakes back!!!

  146. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Molina
    I’ve just met a catcher named Molina
    And suddenly that name will never be the same to me

    Molina
    The catcher we need is Molina
    Suddenly I’ve found how wonderful a sound can be

    Molina
    Say it loud and there’s music playing
    Say it soft and it’s almost like praying
    Molina
    I’ll never stop saying…
    Molina

  147. gusb October 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Are the press conferences on television? What time do they start?

  148. Jim Mason October 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    benching swish is a good idea if they had a good replacement. the guy had a good year, he’ll break out.

    Yanks win a slugfest tonight. aj & pedro both will be mediocre and gone after 5 or 6 innings. both teams tee off vs. respective bullpens with yanks prevailing on big 8th inning.

  149. betsy October 29th, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Miggs, you would know from mindless drivel…….especially the mindless part.

  150. Jim Mason October 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    next year hughes back to rotation, chamberlain back in pen and evrtyhing is fine. i knowit is of no help the next 4 games with hughes but …

  151. Jon Locke October 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    The crowd at the stadium was disgraceful last night. I still thought we could come back in the bottom 9 down 6 runs.

    That was Game 1 World Series. Only 6 more games left at most for the season, and youre skedaddling in the 6th inning.

    Putred.

    _______________

    Yeah down 6-0 in the 9th against a dominant Cliff Lee.. I have a bridge I’m looking to sell, interested? If you came by subway, then no real reason to leave early. But if you drove last night, why would you stay to watch that? To sit in a parking lot for 80 mins just to get out of the Bronx? I can’t blame the drivers for leaving and beating the rush home.. Some people do have jobs to get back to in the morning.

    Enough about the energy in the stadium.. The team was getting shut down the ENTIRE NIGHT. What do you expect the fans to do? Cheer? Lee’s innings lasted about 5 mins a piece. Not really much to be excited about especially in the misty, cold conditions. You want to hear noise tonight? Our team should give us a reason to make noise. If they can go down without a fight (which they did last night), they should expect nothing less from the fans.. You know the ones who actually paid to get into the stadium, not paid to play in a game..

  152. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    ERICA-
    Jeter ss
    Damon lf
    Teixiera 1b
    Rodriguez 3b
    Posada C
    Matsui Dh
    Cano 2b
    Swisher RF
    Cabrera CF

  153. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Jeter 6
    Damon 7
    Teixeira 3
    Rodriguez 5
    Posada 2
    Matsui DH
    Hairston 4
    Hinske 9
    Gardner 8

  154. vin October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    “A.J. Burnett throws a no-hitter tonight.”

    Pedro throws a pefect game tonight.

    There, got that jinx out of the way.

  155. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    mad prince, I was posting it to show what others view Yankees fans as. I am nervous and sick over yesterday’s loss. But I realize it is just one game. A.J. Burnett will be great tonight, but he could be bad. It does not mean that we will lose. Our offense has produced during the season, and can produce if needed. the fans at the stadium need to keep it loud and inspire greatness, like all season.

  156. DB October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    I’m in today Erica, tonight might be the only night where the lineups not a gimmie.

    SS Jeter
    LF Damon
    1B Tex
    3B ARod
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    RF Melky
    CF Gardner

  157. playballnyy October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    —————————————————-
    CR9
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    …Aceves should be ready….for what, his date with Single A next year or his new team’s minor league system.
    —————————————————-

    Uh…
    A) he IS one of 2 long men in the pen, the other being Chad Gaudin. Since the yanks have not committed to using CC for game 4…Gaudin is still a possibility so he won’t be used for innings out of the bullpen…hence Aceves will be used if a pitcher (AJ) gets knocked out early.

    B) Aceves was a successful reliever for the Yankees (one of the teams in the current World Series)…actually working the most innings aside from Hughes. Not a league standout, but worthy of an appearance in the World Series. Here’s his 2009 stats, since you sound clueless about them, apparently all you saw were the couple innings in the postseason:

    10-1, 3.54, 84 IN, 16BB, 69 SO, 1.01 WHIP

    If he’s not on the Yankees next season, I’m sure they’ll be many teams that would take him and NOT to shove him in the minors.

    I for one and ready to see some more of him in the postseason

  158. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Ohhh Moliiiiina and you gave and you gave without taking (bases) and you’ve given up outs ohhhh Molina.

  159. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    I used to think Lomabrdi’s was the gold standard.
    Now they’ve expanded and I think it’s lost something. Last time I went there the crust was so chewy I almost couldn’t eat it.
    True what you say Nick about the random places. The probability of a quality slice is pretty good.
    =====

    IMO, you can’t get good pizza in Manhattan anymore. You have to go to Brooklyn or New Haven.

    Heck, even Trenton N.J. has better pizza to offer. Doreen may know what I’m talking about. John’s has really slipped in recent years. The sauce is just not up to par – very acidic. Agree about Lombardi’s crust.

  160. Patrick October 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Does anyone know of a website that lists the Yankees stats by player for the entire 2009 Postseason thus far. I can only get sites to list for each series but can’t find one that lists stats for the entire playoffs.

  161. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Gardy really can’t be any worse than Swisher.

    Sure, he may not be hitting any line drives off Pedro, but who’s to say he doesn’t stand a decent chance of working the count to draw a walk?

    Once he gets on, he changes the game. I think starting Gardy would be a good jumpstart for the lineup.

    Unfortunately I doubt Clueless Joe will do it!

  162. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Patrick October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Look, I’m all for benching Swisher IF the Yankees had any decent alternatives. Do you really want to bench him for Hinske, Hairston or Gardner? I certainly don’t.
    —-
    Anything is better than an automatic out. Hairston is 10/27 as in 10-for-27, not Oct 27, vs Martinez.

  163. upstate kate October 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Erica
    SS the Captain
    LF E’s PBF
    1B Tex
    3B Arod
    DH Sui
    2B Cano
    RF Swish
    CF Melky
    C Molina
    thanks

  164. Paul B October 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    I agree with Mel Hall that it will be a wasted season without a win.

    Was at the game and it was depressing from the start. I was lucky to get tickets, but the suit crowd was out in full force. I saw people leaving in the 7th because “I got to work tommorow”. A one in a lifetime game for me to be at the World Series and some jerk is leaving because he wants to get beauty sleep? Where does this money come from? It was a good game at that point but some fans EXPECT a 10-0 nightly or it isn’t good enough.

    The place was flat and may be the the future of Yankee baseball. Runner up for the World Series is just the same as last place.

  165. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    CR 9,

    Well, I’m sure that Yankees fans share similar sentiments about Red Sox fans. Its all banter and good-natured fun.

    The silly part is that they expect a bunch of Yankee fans to visit a Red Sox blog when the Red Sox are completely insignificant right now and the excuse they derive is that we’re hiding because we lost. This thread alone has more responses than the entire Extra Bases combined over the past days.

  166. Blackaccord October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Patrick,

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/te.....category.1

  167. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Does anyone really think the Yankees won’t start CC on short rest in Game 4?

    At best the Yankees will be up 2-1. Even in that situation do you really want to give a game away be starting Gaudin to make it 2-2?

    It’s a no-brainer: CC gets the ball for game 4. You need CC to pitch as much as possible, win and lose with your best.

  168. betsy October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    This is what it’s come down to, Flash giving the edge to the Phillies with an older Pedro on the mound, lol. I do expect him to pitch ok because the Yankees offense is struggling, but has Flash given the edge to the Yankees in ANY game?

  169. Erin October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Erica:

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Posada C
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera RF
    Gardner CF

    Thanks!

  170. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    It’ll either be Gardner starting to reclaim his role as the Yankees’ spark-plug, or Hairston for his success against what’s-his-face.

  171. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    playnyy, i was only joking, and exaggerating quite a bit. However, in all honesty, Aceves has not been effective since July.

  172. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Guess the Line Up until 4pm today or the line up gets leaked!!!

    Post players and positions, post on new threads if they come up

    Here’s who is in so far:
    Gardner in CF
    Big Six
    zmaster!, DB (same)
    vin, Mr October (same)
    blackaccord

  173. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Nick in SF in Elk Grove
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
    Molina
    I’ve just met a catcher named Molina
    And suddenly that name will never be the same to me
    Molina
    The catcher we need is Molina
    Suddenly I’ve found how wonderful a sound can be
    Molina
    Say it loud and there’s music playing
    Say it soft and it’s almost like praying
    Molina
    I’ll never stop saying…
    Molina
    ====

    LMAO. Who knew you could sing, AJ?

    Thanks for making me spit up a piece of perfectly ripe and lovely gala apple.

    We win tonight, guys.

    I’m off to the wars.

  174. Rob in Vt. October 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Erica,
    Here’s my GTLU for WS Game #2

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    ARod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky CF
    Molina C

  175. andrew33 October 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    erica here you go – thank you
    1. jeter ss
    2. damon lf
    3. tex 1b
    4. arod 3b
    5. Posada c
    6. matsui dh
    7. cano 2b
    8. swisher rf
    9. melky cf

  176. betsy October 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Right, Gammons …..Chapman is going to sign with the Sox because an ex-teammate signed with them. Sheesh.

    JeterHughesJoba, do you post on NYYFans?

  177. G October 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Im getting off course, but I have an idea which I think is good. If the Yanks are 2-1, or 1-2 I think we pitch CC game 4. Hell get the win against Blanton, not againt Lee. We pitch Gaudin Game 5, hope for the best, at most we are 3-2 or 2-3 with Burnett and Andy pitching. Pitching Gaudin 4th gets the LARGE risk of the Yankees going down 3-1, if they go 2-2 great, that will be perfect but we’ll still have to face Lee in Game 5.

  178. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Blackaccord October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/te…..category.1
    —-
    you could also sort that by OPS or OBP.

  179. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Erin-

    Big Bird will be on Jimmy Kimmel on 11/4.

  180. Hokiehill October 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Today should be interesting…bound to be some swing and misses on the lineup!

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    Alex 3B
    Godzilla DH
    Robby 2B
    The Swish RF
    Leche CF
    Molina C

  181. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Good one, Mad Prince.

    If I knew any of the lyrics to “Rosannah” by Toto I would counter with that, but I’m on a handhelf and I don’t feel like googling. :(

  182. youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    can we get a media member to ask the following question:

    what has caused aceves’s role to go from HUGE during the season, to NOTHING in the post season? no one has asked this question. i’m really curious as to the real answer.

  183. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    My GF corrects me: it is a jongold.

    She is suprised at me; I am surprised at myself, frankly.

    We had to get the housekeeper to bring us a very blunt steak knife to slice the apple, and plate, since Room Service isn’t answering.

    My GF’s question hangs in the air: “Is bad green tea better than no green tea?”

    I gaze out the window onto Route 4, in search of the answer. None comes back to me.

    But we will hit tonight, and we will win tonight.

  184. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Nick in SF in Elk Grove
    All I wanna do when I wake up in the morning is see your eyes…

  185. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Nick in SF in Elk Grove
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    Good one, Mad Prince.

    If I knew any of the lyrics to “Rosannah” by Toto I would counter with that, but I’m on a handhelf and I don’t feel like googling
    ******

    Meet you all the way Rosanna.. yeah
    Need you night and day Rosanna….

  186. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    betsy,

    Actually, Flash gave the advantage to the Yankees in pretty much every ALDS and ALCS matchup if memory serves.

    What it comes down to is not having much of a sample size on AJ to judge from.

    He’s tipping his cap to a veteran…but I like being the underdog :)

  187. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    “This thread alone has more responses than the entire Extra Bases combined over the past days.”

    You spelled season wrong.

  188. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    can we get a media member to ask the following question:

    what has caused aceves’s role to go from HUGE during the season, to NOTHING in the post season? no one has asked this question. i’m really curious as to the real answer.
    —-
    our situational need for a long guy
    he’s there for extra innings

  189. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    A Rod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera CF
    Hinske RF
    Molina C

    Thanks Erica!

  190. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Sometimes I do Betsy. Haven’t in awhile, too much to keep up with and not enough free time.

  191. BigSix October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    G –

    “Im getting off course, but I have an idea which I think is good. If the Yanks are 2-1, or 1-2 I think we pitch CC game 4.”

    If we’re down, 0-3, we pitch him also, by default.

    Wouldn’t you say then that regardless, he’s your Game 4 starter?

  192. vin October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    “Right, Gammons …..Chapman is going to sign with the Sox because an ex-teammate signed with them. Sheesh.”

    If that’s the case, I heard AJ and CC are pals with Cliff Lee. Hmm… wonder when Lee’s contract is up?

  193. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Nick,

    Wow, Toto…haven’t heard that name in some time.

    maybe we can do something with “Africa”

  194. Former Box 607 October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    Tonight’s Lineup.

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera RF
    Gardner CF

  195. youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Gardner in CF

    cant buy that such a key reliever is being used as a stopgap “in case” we get to extra innings. must be something more to it than that. he had gaudin for both alds and alcs in the long relief if all else fails role. you dont just yank a key member of the pecking order without a reason.

  196. Erin October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
    Erin-

    Big Bird will be on Jimmy Kimmel on 11/4.

    **************
    Awesome!! Thanks for the heads up :)

  197. Patrick October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Erica your enthusiasm for the Yankees is infectious!

    Here is my lineup which I know isn’t going to win the contest but is based on careful thought.

    Alex Rodriguez 3B
    Derek Jeter SS
    Hideki Matsui DH
    Jorge Posada C
    Melky Cabrera CF
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Johnny Damon LF
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Nick Swisher RF

    See if you can guess what this is based on. It follows one very simple rule.

  198. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Flash gave the edge to Saunder over AJ in the ALCS game 2.

    Also, according to another poster Flash gave the edge to Lackey over CC for the ALCS game 1.

  199. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Nick,

    Wow, Toto…haven’t heard that name in some time.

    maybe we can do something with “Africa”
    ******

    I once wrote an entire essay on why “Rosanna” should be considered the quintessential Toto song over “Africa”

  200. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    JETERHUGHESJOBA-
    Im with you. CC must go game 4 on 3 days rest. Like you said best scenario Yanks up 2 to 1.(which is very possible) Why would Girardi even bother with Gaudin especially if its against Blanton. (CC on 3 days is better than Blanton) Let CC give it everything hes got and try to get that win.

  201. Rose October 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    “Look, I’m all for benching Swisher IF the Yankees had any decent alternatives. Do you really want to bench him for Hinske, Hairston or Gardner? I certainly don’t.”

    Yes. Swisher is doing nothing. He strikes out and shakes his head walking back to the dugout. He needs to sit.

  202. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Patrick
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
    Erica your enthusiasm for the Yankees is infectious!
    *****

    Thank you :-)

    I just try to bring a little fun into this place

  203. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    JasonR,

    Touche :)

  204. Concerned_Citizen October 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    “I once wrote an entire essay on why “Rosanna” should be considered the quintessential Toto song over “Africa””

    Erica… I hope you got an F on that paper. “Africa” is clearly Toto’s ‘quintessential’ song. :P

  205. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    I think I can recite Toto’s “Africa” by heart.

    AJ to Molina?

    “It’s gonna take a lot to drag me away from yooooou

    There’s nothing that a 100 men more could ever dooooo”

    OK, I think I just scared myself.

  206. miggs - GTLU Reigning Champion October 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Patrick….

    is it postseason average?

  207. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Erica,

    your enthusiasm is hopefully medicine to the pessimist suicidal Yankee fans that comment on here.

    the loss was tough, GET OVER IT. New day, new game.

  208. NYY626 October 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    What *I want vs. What I think Joe will do:

    Captain SS Captain SS
    Damon LF Damon LF
    Tex 1b Tex 1b
    Alex 3b Alex 3b
    JoPo C Matsui DH
    Matsui DH Cano 2B
    Cano 2B Swish RF
    Melky RF Melky CF
    Gardner CF Molina C

    * I like Swisher, but he needs a mental health day. And I just really wanna see Jorge clobber Pedro.

  209. Nick in SF in Elk Grove October 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    “…see your eyes…”

    Ok, so “Rosanna” really works better as a Cervelli song.

    My bad.

  210. Wes October 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    First attempt at GTLU, and what I’m hoping Girardi throws out there tonight.

    SS Jeter
    LF Damon
    1B Tex
    3B A-Rod
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    RF Melky
    CF Gardner

  211. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Lineup submission:

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Teixeira 1B
    Arod 3B
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky CF
    Molina C

    Yes, I believe Clueless Joe is stupid enough to start Molina!

  212. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Bronx Jeers,

    I think you just scared the heck out of me too, but I won’t lie to you and say I didn’t love it!

    haha

  213. Jay October 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Well now we know why the yanks lost yesterday……we didn’t have the flashpoint yesterday…..now hopefuly we will have flashpoints everyday so we will win the next 4!!!
    Let’s go yankees!!!!

  214. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    PATRICK-
    My guess is its postseason avg. I thought Melky was third in avg category but that probably changed after last night. Im going with avg

  215. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Correction: Jeter leads off. Mental mistake (alittle overwhelmed by the idea of Molina and Swish getting the nod!)

  216. Erin October 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    AJ to Molina?

    “It’s gonna take a lot to drag me away from yooooou

    There’s nothing that a 100 men more could ever dooooo”

    *************
    LMAO :D

  217. Doreen October 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Thinking about this, I would have given a 50/50 edge. You really don’t know what you’re going to get from either one of the pitchers tonight, so how can you give, honestly, either one the edge, however slight?

    It will really be nice when AJ gets his act together next season and we see 75% good AJ and only 25% bad AJ. ;)

  218. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    NYY626-

    Ummm- Can you give me a line up that I can easily cut and paste and doesn’t confuse me??? LOL. I don’t know which one is your entry.

  219. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    BRONX JEERS-
    Wasnt it you that was on Rikers Island yesterday?

  220. joe b October 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    The last time the Philadelphia Phillies brought a World Series title back to the City of Brotherly Love, the nation’s financial sector was in complete ruin, the cost of a gallon of milk was only $2.74, fans watched the Fall Classic while huddled around their slightly-less-streamlined high-definition television sets, and Philadelphia slugger Ryan Howard was just 28 years old.

    This week Howard, 29, hopes to lead the Phillies to their first World Series championship in more than 360 long days and end a title drought that has been punctuated by several embarrassing losses, including a 2009 opening-day defeat by the Atlanta Braves and a June loss to the Atlanta Braves. During its infamous dry spell, the team has also come up short twice, winning both an NLDS and an NLCS title but having absolutely no World Series ring to show for it.

    To put into perspective just how long the Phillies have gone without a championship, the earth has almost made one full orbit of the sun since the franchise last paraded through downtown Philadelphia holding the famed Commissioner’s Trophy. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN FOR YOU GUYS YANKEES

  221. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Welcome to the party Wes :-)

  222. pat October 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Patrick

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....imeFrame=1

  223. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    “I like Swisher, but he needs a mental health day.”

    Swish did not use steroids, then have the audacity to lie to the fans and media and teammates after being caught, like a certain large happy go lucky fella.

    For Halloween, there ought to be a lot of Yankees fans wearing Ortiz jerseys with a huge needle sticking out of their…

  224. mick October 29th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    jete ss
    damon lf
    tex 1b
    al 3b
    matsu dh
    cano 2b
    swish rf
    melk cf
    molina c

  225. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    I think I can recite Toto’s “Africa” by heart.

    AJ to Molina?

    “It’s gonna take a lot to drag me away from yooooou

    There’s nothing that a 100 men more could ever dooooo”
    *****

    All I can say is, hurry boy she’s waiting there for you

  226. Bronx Jeers October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    All I wanna do in the middle of an inning is to hold you tiiiiiight, Molina! Molina!

  227. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    JeterHughesJoba
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    Correction: Jeter leads off. Mental mistake (alittle overwhelmed by the idea of Molina and Swish getting the nod!)
    *****

    I will allow the revision. But only cause I felt bad writing you down in the spot where I put the line ups I don’t think have any chance of winning

  228. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    youronthemark-texeira October 29th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Gardner in CF

    cant buy that such a key reliever is being used as a stopgap “in case” we get to extra innings. must be something more to it than that. he had gaudin for both alds and alcs in the long relief if all else fails role. you dont just yank a key member of the pecking order without a reason.
    —-
    I’m with you on that. I can only imagine there must be a back chapter in Girardi’s binder on what Aceves will be used for. Maybe he just preferred the matchups he went with or Ace is in the doghouse for the loss in California.

    Erica, please share the essay. I could go for anything off “IV” but break out “Hold the Line” every now and then.

  229. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Don’t know if anyone has any interest in this, at this point, but here’s the latest update. I’ll take picks until first pitch tonight. Please put my name in the post.

    Thanks.

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....%20MVP.pdf

  230. Wave Your Hat October 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Would banning the singing of that introductory verse to “God Bless America” within the City limits be unconstitutional?

    I mean, I know there’s freedom of speech, but doesn’t the Bill of Rights also ban cruel and unusual punishment?

  231. Erin October 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    All I wanna do in the middle of an inning is to hold you tiiiiiight, Molina! Molina!

    ***********
    Oh my God, you’re killing me. I think my coworkers are becoming concerned at my laughing fits. :D

  232. playballnyy October 29th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    CR9
    October 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    playnyy, i was only joking, and exaggerating quite a bit. However, in all honesty, Aceves has not been effective since July.

    ——————————————————–
    Figured you were being sarcastic, but I still didn’t like it. And again you generalize, be specific. I think he’s had reasonable numbers for most of the second half.

    Aug 3-0 4.74, 19.0IN
    Sept and Oct 1-0 2.51, 14.1 IN

    I do agree that July was gross, but the rest of the season he was effective, accomplished what was expected, sometimes more.

    BTW, did anyone else notice that he looked sickly during his outing in the ALCS, and I don’t mean the disaster performance. I mean physically, he looked like someone on their deathbed….just wondering

  233. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Gardner in CF
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Erica, please share the essay. I could go for anything off “IV” but break out “Hold the Line” every now and then.
    ******

    It wasn’t really a full essay. It was more like, a myspace blog entry. I would log in and dig it up but I refuse to log into my myspace account anymore. Any time I log in I immediately get like 7 e-mails from scary guys

  234. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Wave Your Hat
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    Would banning the singing of that introductory verse to “God Bless America” within the City limits be unconstitutional?

    I mean, I know there’s freedom of speech, but doesn’t the Bill of Rights also ban cruel and unusual punishment?
    ******

    I think its more of a strategy employed by the Yankees to put the opposing pitcher to sleep during the 7th innings stretch

  235. pat October 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    “See if you can guess what this is based on. It follows one very simple rule.”

    OBP

  236. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Hey Joe B
    You know whats pretty funny. The Yankees have one the same amount of championships in the last ten years (99,00) than the Phillies(80,08) have won in their entire existence.
    You know what else is pretty funny in the last 15 years the Yankees have played in the same amount of World Series as the Phillies have since they came into the league!

  237. Trevor October 29th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    ss jeter
    lf damon
    1b teixeira
    3b rodriguez
    c posada
    dh matsui
    2b cano
    rf cabrera
    cf gardner

  238. Jim Mason October 29th, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    How can anyone be worried? after game 2 in 96, no team ever looked more dead than the yankees.

  239. JeterHughesJoba October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Whewwww!

    Thanks so much Erica!!

  240. Wave Your Hat October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    “I think its more of a strategy employed by the Yankees to put the opposing pitcher to sleep during the 7th innings stretch”

    Yeah, well it came pretty close to putting me asleep, that’s for sure.

  241. NYY626 October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    NYY626-

    Ummm- Can you give me a line up that I can easily cut and paste and doesn’t confuse me??? LOL. I don’t know which one is your entry.
    ____________________________________________________________
    Sorry Erica! It didnt look all close together like that when I typed it up.

    Anyways, here is Joe’s lineup. I’m hoping I lose today :)

    Captain SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1b
    Alex 3b
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2b
    Swish RF
    Melky CF
    Molina C

  242. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Cmon Joe B think of something good to come back with you fool!

  243. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    NYY626-

    If you are out there resubmit with ONLY the line up you want ;-)!

  244. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Mooooolllinnnaaaaa, every now and then I get a little terrified to see you steppin to the plaaaate

    Mooooolllinaaaaaaa, hit it.

    every now and theeeen get a hit!

    NOW WE NEED YOU MORE TONIGHT, NOW WE NEED YOU MORE THAN EVER!

  245. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    if molina catches tonight, doesnt posada almost HAVE TO BE the dh? he has so much history with pedro.

  246. cashman's gotta go October 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Mad Prince…

    i’m not thinking about 2010 either….and i don’t post on here to argue with yankee fans..we are afterall on the same team, per se, concentrating on the same goal (winning the WS).

    but the thought of this years joba and this years hughes (as a starter)being 40% of the rotation next year is scary…and scary in a bad way…

    why would you think a GM would want joba or hughes (have you seen the way they’ve pitched this postseason…or in the case of joba pretty much all year minus 6 starts or so)for frankie hernandez or halladay? JP Ricciardi was pretty much told he HAD to trade halladay to dump his salary, or else he was going to be fired….and even with that ultimatum he said no thanks to the yankees and decided it was better to lose his job….cashman still thinks that just because he has “NY Yankees” after his name that other teams should bow to him…

    how embarrasing is it that cashman with a bankroll of billions of dollars is seen shopping at the salvation army when it comes to trades or pickups..which is what he’s done with the gaudin, mitre, ponson (twice) and richie sexson debacles….while ruben amaro trades for cliff lee and theo trades for victor martinez…and yes they actually give up minor leaguers which may or may not be any good once (or if ) they make it to the majors…
    is cashman afraid of trading away hanley ramirez? yankees don’t have a hanley ramirez..when was the last time the yankees traded a minor leaguer that actually amounted to something.. jay buhner? don’t give me dioner navarro because he sucks…

    going on your thoery that they will trade for hernandez or halladay – if cashman is going to do it in december they why not do it 6 months earlier in july so that they can have this guy on the team come world series time…thats what i’m talking about….stop sitting on your thumbs and make something happen when it counts…throwing gobs of money at free agents is easy …pulling the trigger on trades that turn out to be cliff lee is what separates the good gm’s from the ones that soil their diapers..like cashman..

  247. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    ss jeter
    lf damon
    1b teixeira
    3b rodriguez
    dh posada
    2b cano
    rf cabrera
    cf gardner
    c molina

  248. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    NYY626-

    No problem. We are good now :-)

  249. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    “How can anyone be worried? after game 2 in 96, no team ever looked more dead than the yankees.”

    I guess you didn’t watch any Mets highlights this year.

  250. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    JasonR
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    “How can anyone be worried? after game 2 in 96, no team ever looked more dead than the yankees.”

    I guess you didn’t watch any Mets highlights this year.
    ******

    I think you mean lowlights :-)

  251. tex's friend October 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    “Right, Gammons …..Chapman is going to sign with the Sox because an ex-teammate signed with them. Sheesh.”

    If that’s the case, I heard AJ and CC are pals with Cliff Lee. Hmm… wonder when Lee’s contract is up?

    ___

    let gammons rant his nonsense.

    I think we all know the yankees can have chapman if they want him.

  252. Joe from Long Island October 29th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    It’s so much fun painting the house. I could just scream.

    1. Mad Prince – I, like many others, have an emotional attachment to Phil and Joba. However, like you, can easily see how one of them goes in a trade for Halladay or King Felix. If it happens, I would prefer King Felix for the obvious reason of his youth.

    2. So Gammons is reporting that Chapman would take into consideration where his buddy is playing. Okay…..I think Chapman and his handler would have five other considerations – M – O – N – E – Y.

    3. Mozambeast – You the man…or woman, as the case might be!

  253. Austinmac October 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    On a plane and about to leave so no time for my usual wrong GTLU. Believe Posada and Gardner must play. Darn plane better get me home on time.

  254. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Tex’s friend,

    As someone on here pointed out last week, if you start posada at DH and Molina at catcher, you can’t make the defensive switch w/o losing the DH…something like that.

    Basically, the logic is that both Catchers starting would be a very risky move.

    I think they’ll do exactly what they did last game and start Molina and see how AJ does through the first 4 innings or so. If things are looking good and we’re hitting, leave well enough alone. If they aren’t bring in Jorge.

  255. Shawn October 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Here’s my lineup Erica,

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Tex 1B
    Arod 3B
    Posada C
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Swish RF
    Melky CF

    This is a tough one today, but I think I’m gonna stick with my Posada catching theory. I think they can do fine together, and I think Girardi is willing to gamble on that. Plus, I don’t think he likes the idea of not having catching support on his bench if he uses both Molina and Posada, seems like he likes having as many options as possible. Plus, he might be tempted to start Posada against his nemesis Pedro, even if his numbers aren’t that great. I would not be surprised to see Molina catch tonight however.

    Thanks again Erica!

  256. Fran (the original) October 29th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Hey Erica,

    My line-up is

    Derek. SS
    Johnny LF
    Tex. 1B
    Alex. 3B
    Matsui DH
    Cano. 2B
    Swisher RF
    Melky. CF
    Jose. C

    Thanks for hosting :)

  257. MR.OCTOBER October 29th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    austinmac
    good luck getting home

  258. JasonR October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    “why would you think a GM would want joba or hughes (have you seen the way they’ve pitched this postseason…or in the case of joba pretty much all year minus 6 starts or so)for frankie hernandez or halladay? JP Ricciardi was pretty much told he HAD to trade halladay to dump his salary, or else he was going to be fired….and even with that ultimatum he said no thanks to the yankees and decided it was better to lose his job….”

    There are many things wrong with this post. But for one, Riccardi didn’t turn down Hughes or Joba. He told Cashman (and Theo Epstein, and every other GM in the AL East) that they would ask more from teams in the American League East, because they didn’t want to trade him within the division. For the Yankees, meant Hughes or Joba AND Montero plus additional prospects.

  259. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    cashman’s gotta go,

    for the sake of brevity, i will just say i disagree with everything you wrote. but that is your opinion, i respect it, and will leave well enough alone.

  260. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Austinmac
    October 29th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    On a plane and about to leave so no time for my usual wrong GTLU. Believe Posada and Gardner must play. Darn plane better get me home on time.
    *****

    the sun is out for a change. That should help.

    I can make one up for you in this special circumstance. The usual with Posada in 5, no Swish & Garner in CF in 9???

  261. Patrick October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    “is it postseason average?”

    “My guess is its postseason avg. I thought Melky was third in avg category but that probably changed after last night. Im going with avg”

    Nope, it’s postseason OBP. Studies show that the basis of a good lineup is you give the guys with the highest OBP the most at-bats.

    pat,

    Thanks for the link.

  262. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    playballnyy, Looking at Alfredo Aceves stats, July August and the few innings in the postseason speak for itself. Not to discount the games in September, but were there any high pressure situations in September. I do not know the situations he was brought into or the opponents he faced.

  263. Gardner in CF October 29th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
    cashman’s gotta go,

    for the sake of brevity, i will just say i disagree with everything you wrote. but that is your opinion, i respect it, and will leave well enough alone.
    —-
    I applaud you for that and not turning it into a personal attack like some people here who will remain nameless

  264. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Guess the Line Up until 4pm today or the line up gets leaked!!!

    Post players and positions, post on new threads if they come up

    Here’s who is in so far:
    Gardner in CF
    Big Six, Erin, Trevor (same)
    zmaster!, DB, Former Box 607, Wes(same)
    vin, Mr October, Andrew33, Shawn (same)
    Upstate Kate, Rob in VT, Hokiehill, jeterhughesjoba, mick, NYY626 (same)
    miggs
    blackaccord
    Tex’s friend

  265. Chambliss October 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Jeter-SS
    Damon-LF
    Tex-1B
    Arod-3b
    Matsui-DH
    Posada-c
    Cano-2b
    Melky-RF
    Gardner-CF

  266. Ralph Kramden October 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Erica:
    Jeter
    Damon
    Tex
    A ROd
    Matsui
    Cano
    Cabrera
    Gardner
    Molina

  267. DB October 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Mr October

    1980 – 2009 = 29 years

    but, your point is well taken.

    The Yanks have won almost half the world series ever played and competed in around 40% of them since it’s existence.

    No one can compete with the Yankees history in any sport in the world. It’s why some people hate the Yankees, but the funny thing is most people don’t.

  268. Erica - always OPPC October 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    GAME THREAD UP :arrow:

    NO NEW LINE UPS HERE :arrow:

  269. Dave F October 29th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Erica:

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Teixeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Posada C
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera RF
    Gardner CF

    Thanks Erica :)

  270. DB October 29th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    oops, fruediant slip, half = quarter

    they’ve won almost a quarter of them

  271. Get Yer Damn hands Off Of her! October 29th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Anybody watch It’s always Sunny? (I know not a good Philly reference …)

    Well this is what we have to do tonight !

    Frank: Don’t even joke about hunting no man.
    Dennis: Who’s joking? I’m not joking.
    Frank: Oh yeah? Well, I was hunted once. I’d just came back from ‘Nam. I was hitching through Oregon and some cop started harassing me. Next thing you know, I had a whole army of cops chasing me through the woods! I had to take ‘em all out–it was a bloodbath!
    [everyone pauses awkwardly]
    Charlie: That’s ‘Rambo’, dude.
    Frank: What?
    Charlie: You just described the plot of ‘Rambo’.
    [Mac, Dennis, and Charlie all agree at once]
    Dennis: Yeah, and come to think of it, that’s not the first time you’ve described your life in the way of John Rambo’s life.

  272. Get Yer Damn hands Off Of her! October 29th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    FIRST BLOOD !!!!!!!

  273. ELKEAL487 October 29th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    CR9

    You are a typical fan that loves his team when they win, and tears them apart when they lose. Alfredo Aceves is, and will remain, a valuable pitcher for the Yankees. If you watched all the Yankees games Aceves pitched in, you would realize just how well he contributed to the Yankees success. Should you want to take the time, and compare Aceves to the rest of the AL or NL bullpen pitchers, you’ll find he ranks near the top in most categories. So, when you state he’ll be traded, or windup back in the minor leagues, you display a total lack of player judgement and knowledge. I believe the real problem facing the Yankees is Girardi’s insistence on sticking with a line-up that is not producing. Why add Hinske if you’re not going to use him? Why start Swisher when he’s not hitting? Why leave Gardner on the bench, when this team needs a spark plug to get them started? The bullpen is afraid to pitch to contact, and Girardi’s afraid to change-up the starting line-up, this could add up to an early exit.

  274. ELKEAL487 October 29th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    CR9

    You are a typical fan that loves his team when they win, and tears them apart when they lose. Alfredo Aceves is, and will remain, a valuable pitcher for the Yankees. If you watched all the Yankees games Aceves pitched in, you would realize just how well he contributed to the Yankees success. Should you want to take the time, and compare Aceves to the rest of the AL or NL bullpen pitchers, you’ll find he ranks near the top in most categories. So, when you state he’ll be traded, or windup back in the minor leagues, you display a total lack of player judgement and knowledge. I believe the real problem facing the Yankees is Girardi’s insistence on sticking with a line-up that is not producing. Why add Hinske if you’re not going to use him? Why start Swisher when he’s not hitting? Why leave Gardner on the bench, when this team needs a spark plug to get them started? The bullpen is afraid to pitch to contact, and Girardi’s afraid to change-up the starting line-up, this could add up to an early exit.

  275. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Elkeal aka Phillies or Red Sox fan,

    I stated in a previous post I was joking about Aceves. If there was a player on this team I dislike, it would be Molina. But I do not blame players or dislike players, I dislike umpires, namely HP umpires for changing games with their strike zones, especially when the Yankees usually have a disadvantageous strike zone compared to their opponent.

  276. CR9 October 29th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    We have lost for 9 years. Alex has rarely performed in the playoffs from 2004-2007. I have never jumped on Alex. Not even when he opted out of his contract. I always believed that he was a good guy with some issues. I never jumped on Kevin Brown until he was no longer a Yankee. Maybe Randy Johnson, because his 91-93 mph pitches were hit easily and his slider was spit on by hitters with us, but Nick Blackburn and Cliff Lee are somehow successful with their 90mph slop.

  277. steveoh October 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Here’s the linup I want, I am 100% sure Girardi’s will be significantly different though.

    Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Teixeira 1B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera RF
    Gardner CF

  278. ELKEAL487 October 29th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    CR9

    I’ve been a Yankees fan longer than you’ve been alive. I guess I took it too personal, since Alfredo and his wife Arley are friends of ours. I do believe Girdi’s the one being timid, in the manner he’s making out the line-ups in the post season. Perhaps last nights game will get him to make the changes he should to light a fire under his team, let’s all hope for a better game tonight, and pray A.J. don’t blow-up early.

  279. ELKEAL487 October 29th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    CR9

    I’ve been a Yankees fan longer than you’ve been alive. I guess I took it too personal, since Alfredo and his wife Arley are friends of ours. I do believe Girdi’s the one being timid, in the manner he’s making out the line-ups in the post season. Perhaps last nights game will get him to make the changes he should to light a fire under his team, let’s all hope for a better game tonight, and pray A.J. don’t blow-up early.

  280. Cheap Seats October 29th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    I think this is what Joe will do:

    Jeter ss
    Damon lf
    Tex 1b
    A-Rod 3b
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2b
    Swisher rf
    Cabrera cf
    Molina c

  281. charlestonchew October 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    I said at the very beginning of the ALCS to start Pettitte second instead of AJ. I still stand by that. Pettitte is a lefty and the Angels and the Phils both have a lot of lefties or switch hitters. Less homerun chance at the stadium.

    Plus, Andy has been much better this postseason. It’s a no-brainer.

  282. joe b October 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    hey, it all comes down to “what have you done for me lately.” Just look at A-Rod & Tex getting Booed yesterday. Also, who are the defending champs!!!!!

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