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Has Burnett changed the Game 5 plan?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 30, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi isn’t ready to announce his Game 4 starter just yet, so he’s certainly not going to say much about Game 5. But after last night, you have to wonder if A.J. Burnett might have changed the Yankees plans.

The common theory seems to be that the Yankees will go with Chad Gaudin in Game 5, assuming it’s not an elimination game. But the way Burnett pitched on Thursday — dominant from start to finish, throwing strikes throughout — he made a strong case for a Game 5 start on short rest.

“If I’m called on to do that, I’ll do that,” he said. “I’ve thrown on three days in the past. I’m a big fan of it. It was midseason when I did it, not October, but I feel strong right now and I’m up for anything, absolutely.”

I’m not sure I would give Burnett the ball in Game 5, but I’m not as against to the idea as I was 24 hours ago. Especially if Games 3 and 4 go wrong, Burnett’s made a clear case that he should get the ball in a must-win situation. The Yankees are right to hold off on making a decision, but Burnett’s given them something to think about in the meantime.

 
 

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246 Responses to “Has Burnett changed the Game 5 plan?”

  1. JTF October 30th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Regarding Joe West…According to ESPN’s website…West is the Game 6 HP ump:

    Joe West
    No.: 22 | Age: 57 | Experience: 31 years
    Games 1-7 assignments: RF, LF, 3B, 2B, 1B, HP, RF

  2. Rishi October 30th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    i thought CC was already named for Game 4??

  3. gayle October 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    IMHO Again depending on the series score you leave Burnett to pitch at home. He does pitch better at home and not sure even with the performance last night I trust him at The Bank. You have to assume that the Phillies will make the same adjustments that the Angels made and become more aggressive second time around.

    Again series score may change that but I would rather have AJ at home for a Game 6 on regular rest.

  4. 86w183 October 30th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    If it’s 3-1 Yankees then you might consider Gaudin in order to have AJ fully rested if there’s a game six, but in any other scenario you put Burnett on the hill.

  5. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    I would much rather have Burnett at home for Game 6. He seems to thrive pitching at home.

  6. Dennis from the Bronx October 30th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    According to Bronx Baseball Diary, A.J. has excelled on short rest:
    Burnett – 4 G, 4-0 record, 2.33 ERA, 27 IP, 19 H, 2 HR, 10 BB, 24 K’s, 1.07 WHIP.

    Pettitte – 14 G, 4-6 record, 4.15 ERA, 86.2 IP, 86 H, 6 HR, 38 BB, 69 K’s, 1.43 WHIP.

    http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby.....j-burnett/

  7. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    AJ in game 5 means Andy in game 6 on short rest.. Unless we are down 3-1,I doubt we see AJ in #5.

  8. yanksfan October 30th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Did CLIFF LEE use any foreign substance against us?

  9. Bench Swish October 30th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Despite AJ’s strong performance in Game 2, I was nervous the whole way … just waiting for the meltdown that thankfully, never came. I can’t say even tho he did great last night that it would assuage any fears of him pitching in Game 5. That said, I can’t see how Gaudin on full rest would be in any way better than a short rested AJ. A short rested AJ is still, IMO, a thousand times better than a well rested Gaudin.

  10. jennifer October 30th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I don’t think they’ve made any announcement. No need to. You see how the series plays out.

  11. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    Same here, Rishi.

    It really depends. If we win game 3 I would go:

    GM 4-Gaudin
    GM 5-CC
    GM 6-AJ
    GM 7-Andy

    Of course, Gaudin’s a risk. And how many days rest would that be for Andy? Plenty, no?

    AJ pitches much better at home. Great in his postseason home starts.

  12. iiicollies October 30th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    First, talking about Burnett starting G5 means already assuming that CC is starting G4.
    Second, the only qualm I have about AJ starting G5 is that the game is in Philly – he has a better split for home games and, if Girardi continues his particular practice of the Burnett/Molina battery, we’ll lose both the DH and Posada’s bat to gain Burnett’s comfort. Posada may be in a slump at the moment, but he has a better upside than Molina

  13. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    i think it depends on how the series is going as to whether AJ pitches game 5. If you pitch AJ on short rest then that means that Pettite would have to go on short rest in Game 6 unless you pitch Gaudin in game 6 and if the point to is avoid Gaudin then there is no advantage.

  14. Bench Swish October 30th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    I don’t think the Yanks have said definitively, CC will pitch Game 4. But considering that even if we win tomorrow, we’d be up 2-1 with two more to go in Philly. Two more games with CC is twice as good as one time of Gaudin and one of CC… gotta think CC gets the ball.

  15. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Happily, and per usual, I have no opinion on who to start when. My only opinion has to do with pairing AJ and Molina. Beyond that I look to see the lineup, and then I say “oh”.

    :)

    I love leaving the responsibility for decisions elsewhere and just tuning in and cheering.

  16. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Francesca disappointed that Yankee fans didn’t give Pedro an ovation, lol…..what a joke. He spent 10 minutes praising the magnificence of Pedro and barely one on AJ…..

  17. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    “Did CLIFF LEE use any foreign substance against us?”

    A poster yesterday (I believe ncYankeefan or a similar screenname) was really upset about it and insisted that when he went back and replayed the game, he saw pinetar on Lee’s cap, surmising that it was on his hands and got on his cap when he wiped his hand on his cap.

  18. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    I’ll be shocked if Sabathia doesn’t get the ball for game 4.

  19. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    betsy

    francesca, as you like to call him is a showman and I think you know that.

  20. Dennis from the Bronx October 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    On July 13, 2008, A.J. pitched on three days rest for the Blue Jays against the Yankees. He went 8.1 innings, gave up one run on six hits and one walk and eight K’s. He threw 98 pitches in that game. In his previous game, he’d thrown 112.

    http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008

  21. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Hey Bets, you’ve called in to the FAN before, yes? Do you think someone calling and asking Francessa about the Cliff Lee pine tar stuff would get it enough publicity to get it to the MLB offices?

  22. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    i say, cc game 4, gaudin game 5.

    cc is comfy with short rest and he pitched well in game 1.

  23. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    I would be too, I’m pretty sure they will go CC in game 4. I think the big decision is in Game 5 and whether or not to pitch AJ on short. I acually would feel feel pretty good about AJ 3 days, he’s a big strong guy and he’s done it before. My concern is that if AJ pitches game 5 then you are forced to either pitch Andy on 3 days or Gaudin in Game 6

  24. upstate kate October 30th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    I would rather see AJ pitch at home, if possible. He said he thrives on the fans. Also, if he pitches in Philly, there is no way you can pair him w/ Molina.
    I guess it will all depend on the W-L record.

  25. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    well mlb investigated rivera, so how would they justify not looking into it?

  26. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    My thing with CC in Game 4 and Gaudin in Game 5 is that Lee will probably pitch game 5 for the Phils and that would be a big disadvange.

    If we’re up 3-1 in game 5 then fine, but if down 3-1 or its 2-2 then that game becomes very important to have their #1 against our #4

  27. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I don’t want Gaudin to start, he is terrible vs lefties. Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard and Ibanez will eat him up.

    Gotta go with Pettitte, Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Sabathia for games 3-7.

  28. Eric October 30th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    if the plan is to pitch C.C., A.J. and Andy on 3 days rest each, then go for it. but if we’re not pitching Andy on 3 days rest and instead am going to pitch Gaudin at some point(game 5, with C.C. starting 4 and 7), there is no point. you’re substituting a start by C.C. for Andy, not that much of an advantage, and you’re compromising the rest of your starters. if we win game 3, we MUST go with a regular 4 man rotation…..

  29. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Ah, Morgan talked about this very scenario in another series. Trying to line up certain starters to start at home. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.

    Also, no one talks about why CC wasn’t sharp in WS Game 1. Could it be that he pitched so long in his last ALCS start? I remember saying here that he’s going on 3 days rest, should he be extended like that with a comfortable lead. Hopefully, it’s just me channelling my inner “betsy”.

  30. Eric October 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    i meant a start by C.C. in place of Andy, in my previous post

  31. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    if the plan is to pitch C.C., A.J. and Andy on 3 days rest each, then go for it. but if we’re not pitching Andy on 3 days rest and instead am going to pitch Gaudin at some point(game 5, with C.C. starting 4 and 7), there is no point. you’re substituting a start by C.C. for Andy, not that much of an advantage, and you’re compromising the rest of your starters. if we win game 3, we MUST go with a regular 4 man rotation…..

    ____

    By pitching cc in game 4, you are leaving him ready to come into game 7 at the first sign of trouble for pettitte.

    3-1 is alot different than 2-2 so if we win game 3 and have a chance to go up 3-1, cc is the man.

  32. Chet October 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    CC pitches in Game 4 regardless of if we win or lose Game 3. Unless we are down 1-3 I would start Chad in Game 5 and roll the dice there. Andy, at this stage, would probably not fare well on 3 days rest and you force that issue if you go Andy, CC, AJ in the games in Philly. Also assuming we come home down 2-3 that puts the Game 6 pitcher in a real ‘must win’ spot in Game 6. I would rather have a fully rested AJ for Game 6, CC on 3 days rest for Game 7 and Andy serve as our bridge to Mo in those two games.
    Chet

  33. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    So Chad would rather Gaudin than Burnett? Hmmmmmm

    I’m glad AJ is up for it, but he hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest in a long time. I wonder what the short rest would do to the movement on his pitches.

    M, very well thought out defense of AJ. I do think people are harder on him because of his talent – I’m not sure why we can’t just take the bad with the good. Sometimes it appears as if people only see the bad with him. I know I disagree with Randy here, but any player that signs with the Yankees is a Yankee to me; I don’t believe that they have to go out and “earn their pinstripes”.

  34. Bench Swish October 30th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    CC in game 4 (short rest) and Gaudin in Game 5 would put AJ in game 6 and CC back on the mound in Game 7 (again on short rest)… with Pettitte ready to come in at any time (a la Mussina in 2001). The question becomes which give you a better chance to win? Scenario 1: CC, AJ, and Pettitte (all on short rest in games 4, 5, 6 and 7) or scneario 2: CC, Gaudin, AJ, CC with Pettitte in the background?

    Also consider that these are the last games of the year, and they’d probably just let it fly. That said, it most likely would probably go down to the next two games. If we win both (lead 3-1), scenario 2 is probably likely… if we split or lose the next two (2-2 or 1-3), scenario 1 would be my guess.

  35. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    I agree with Patrick, its the world series and I say if you lose then you lose with your best. It would be different if we had a legit 4th starter but we haven’t had one all year..

  36. 86w183 October 30th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    They have not announced CC for game four, but it is one of the safest bets there is right now.

  37. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Trish, what’s up with Cliff Lee and pine tar?

    Mick, I just thought Francesca should be focusing on the Yankees instead of his personal hero, Pedro.

    AJ has pitched good games on the road this year; the idea that he can’t pitch on the road, that you’d rather him at home and Gaudin on the road (in fact, Gaudin over AJ at all) is extremely silly.

  38. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Rishi,

    Maybe I’m mistaken. Maybe I heard that Cliff Lee’s already been named the Game 4 starter.

    If we win game 3, then it at least goes back to NY with CC, AJ, and Andy pitching 3 of the last 4 games. I like our chances.

    Hey, if we win every non-Cliff Lee start then we win it all. But CC will get his command back. And Cliff Lee’s not likely to repeat his game 1 performance. I’m glad that Manuel burned his arm out in a 6-0 game. 3 days rest after all those pitches? Oh, yeah.

  39. jennifer October 30th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    So he still hasn’t mentioned AJ? Instead he is crying about criticism.

  40. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    I think the only way Gaudin gets the start in game 5 is if we’re up 3-1. If we are up 3-1 then the phils would have to beat both AJ and CC with Andy available out of the pen at the stadium to win and id like those odds

  41. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Does Pedro have a writer, because his material is made for TV.

  42. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Blake
    October 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    I think the only way Gaudin gets the start in game 5 is if we’re up 3-1. If we are up 3-1 then the phils would have to beat both AJ and CC with Andy available out of the pen at the stadium to win and id like those odds

    **************
    Agreed. I know I’m hoping that’s the case! I would be willing to gamble with Gaudin in game 5 if the Yankees are up 3-1. At least then you’d have AJ pitching on regular rest at home if there’s a game 6.

  43. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    randy l-gotcha!

    cheap seats-thanks!

    rconn-it is what it is, the best we can do is accept it and take the good with the bad. and for the record, aj’s been more good than bad. even tex acknowledged lack of run support for aj.

    betsy-I know, right?!

  44. daver October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    I am looking forward to CC BATTING in game 4. He’s a very good hitter. Maybe he’ll smack a homerun to help his own cause.

  45. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Francesa doesn’t like AJ. He likes “old school” for his Yankees. Hates the pie thing, etc…Some of his stuff is shtick, some true belief. Loves Pedro and Manny cause they’re good copy. Makes his job easier. He mixes fact and fiction.

  46. 100 pitches of fun... October 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    I would definitely pitch CC in game 4 and AJ game 5. I would much rather have the 3 guys start the games on short rest and then bring in Gaudin to back them up if they get into trouble. You would assume that Lee will pitch game 4 against CC but if it’s game 5 you can’t have Gaudin pitching agaisnt him. Gaudin hasn’t pitched in a month, that would basically be giving the game away. If the guys were swinging the bats well then I would say maybe they can cover him but they aren’t. Of course things would change if the Yanks win the next 2 games which would be nice but I don’t expect it to happen.

  47. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    yup, I’m not sure if I want the Phillies to pitch Lee in Game 4. I kinda want them to i think because I think CC will be better on short rest and I don’t think Lee can pitch that well again especially on 3 days rest.

    If Lee pitches game 4 for the Phillies then who pitches Game 5 for them. They can’t pitch Pedro on 3 days can they? Potentially Blanton vs AJ which I like. Either way it’ll either be CC vs Blanton in Game 4 or AJ vs Blanton in Game 5. I like us in either of those matchups.

  48. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Daver, Yea we will definatley have the advantage with CC hitting when he pitches.

  49. Darrin October 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    I do have to laugh at how much baseball has changed, even in my own lifetime. Everyone is so worried about these Mariano 6-out saves (even with all the off days this postseason!)

    In the 1977 ALCS, the Yankees trailed the Royals 2 games to 1 in the best-of-five series. Facing elimination in Game 4, Billy Martin brought in his closer Sparky Lyle in the FOURTH inning. Lyle finished that game, and then came in the very next day in the 8th inning to close that one out as well.

    I think Mo will be fine.

  50. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Up 2-1 Lee won’t pitch, down 2-1 he will. Manuel probably doesn’t want to pitch him on 3 days.

  51. champ809 October 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    “I don’t want Gaudin to start, he is terrible vs lefties. Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard and Ibanez will eat him up.

    Gotta go with Pettitte, Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Sabathia for games 3-7.”

    one of the reasons i think Cash liked Gaudin is because he absolutely dominated the Rangers in an interleague game this season(i think he went 8 shutout 2hit 10ks) when the Rangers were mashing so he’s capable of surprising here and stuff wise couls be a good matchup with the Phils actually as he features a plus slider and they as a team really struggle with sliders….
    as far as the idea of throwing Pett,CC and AJ all on short rest i think most of us are just assuming that they will all be as dominant everytime out as they were the first time and actually the opposite is most probably the case.
    the more looks that a good hitter gets at a pitcher the advantage decidely swings from the pitcher to the hitter

    on shorter rest a pitchers’ stuff is generally diminished(loss of life on the fb,breaking pitches not as crisp) and his command and location usually becomes more inconsistant which would be a recipe for disaster against this team and expose our “shaky” bullpen to being more pivotal in this series as we’d be going to the pen earlier and more often from games 4-7 if needed.

    i think the best strategy would be,assuming we win game 3,hand the ball to Gaudin game 4 and hope for 5-6 quality innings from him and that we can offensively show up against Blanton

    and then we have CC for game 5 and AJ @ home for game 6 on normal rest with the DH and Molina behind the plate.

    if there is a game 7 AndyDandy starts for us but EVERYBODY not named AJ including the bullpen sink would be on deck for Joe to throw at ‘em

    if we lose game 3 then we have no choice but to go with CC in 4 and probably AJ in 5

  52. randy l. October 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    “Randy didn’t you say that last night was the test on how AJ pitched under pressure? I know you definitely said something to that effect.”

    trisha-

    absolutely.
    the yankees as a team needed good aj and i think he personally needed it after his bad start if he were going to get another start in this world series.

    it was a gut check for and he let his good aj happen.
    that’s all being clutch is, being yourself under pressure.
    he did it.
    but one game doesn’t totally win me over with a player. aj has to do it on a consistent basis the way pettitte has over his career.

    pettitte has his clunkers too. but he’s had so many good games you know it’s not because of nerves when he does. he’s just bad.

    aj went a long way last night to show he can pitch in big games.
    he’ll get another chance in game 5 or 6 now to show he can do it on a consistent basis.
    if he does, the yankees have themselves a good if not great postseason #2 pitcher.

  53. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    I just love the way that espn is acting as if Utley’s blown call is the only blown close call in the history of the game.

    You can’t really fault the umps on a 50/50 play, those are bang-bang. But there are other more egegious calls than even Howard’s short-hop “double play”.

  54. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Francesa is just trying to stir the pot with his applaud Pedro stance.

    He can’t believe that.

  55. upstate kate October 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    M
    I read or heard somewhere (sorry no link) that CC thought he had too much rest before his WS start. Regardless, he still pitched well enough to win.
    I know AJ can win on the road, but it does bring up the issue of who catches him, which is more important in a NL ball park.

  56. vin October 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Girardi is playing this 100% correctly.

    No need to reveal any plans until the day of the game rolls around.

    I’ve mentioned this before:

    I am VERY confident CC can pitch on 3 days rest twice.

    I am PRETTY confident AJ can pitch on 3 days rest once.

    I am MORE confident in Andy pitching once on 3 days rest, than I am in Gaudin starting game 5, in Philly.

    The issue is whether or not Andy can be effective on 3 days rest. It would be ridiculous for fans to criticize Girardi one way or another, because he knows his players better than any of us do.

    If he feels like he can do it, I’ll gladly take 5-6 good Andy Pettitte innings over Gaudin making his first start in over a month. I’ll take my chances.

  57. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Wait a minute-Francesa is upset that the crowd didn’t give Pedro an ovation? Is he serious?

  58. jennifer October 30th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    I can’t believe Mike believes what he is saying> Why should Yankee fans NOT boo Pedro. We hate him. HATE HIM. Why would we cheer him? Who gives a flying you know what that he is a first ballot hall of famer. He is NOT a Yankee. I hate Pedros guts. I hate him for the way he always used our players for target practice.

  59. 100 pitches of fun... October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    AJ pitched 3 times last year on 3 days rest and had a 1 era. I would definitely give him the ball. Gaudin hasn’t pitched in a month what would anyone really expect out of him??? Especially playing in a bandbox with all of their lefties it would be a disaster. Also he can probably only throw 50 pitches so where are you going after 3-4 innings? Aceves, please no.

  60. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    If Pettite wins game 3 for us then I really like the potential pitching matchups the rest of the way.

    I like CC in game 4 against whoever the Phils pitch…

  61. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Erin and jennifer

    He says he stood and cheered. Must have been alone in a booth somewhere in the stadium, or his house.

    He could get a good 3-4 hours of calls for that remark.

  62. vin October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    “I just love the way that espn is acting as if Utley’s blown call is the only blown close call in the history of the game.”

    ESPN? Hmmm… never heard of it.

    Oh, is that another one of those 24-hour news networks that tries to generate “news,” and makes every story about themselves?

  63. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    upstate kate,

    Interesting. But didn’t he have a lot of rest before game 1 against the Angels and was pristine? I don’t think he’ll ever say anything about pitch counts after the mini-flap when he mentioned throwing 120 pitches in an early season game. I just hated it at the time because he was on short rest and we had the lead. But seeing how the bullpen unfolded it was the right call. Might’ve taken a miracle to beat Lee in game 1 anyway.

  64. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    “i think the best strategy would be,assuming we win game 3,hand the ball to Gaudin game 4 and hope for 5-6 quality innings from him and that we can offensively show up against Blanton”

    Or game 5. I think it depends on the Phillies. I get the feeling Girardi doesn’t want a Lee-Gaudin matchup.

  65. rconn23 October 30th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    You go with Gaudin in Game 5 unless you are on the verge of being eliminated.

    Burnett is being the good soldier by volunteering to go on 3 days rest. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.

  66. Robbykid October 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Do we know if the Phillies are pitching Lee in Game 4?

  67. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    i’d love to know wht the phillies let cliff lee take a cab and the subway to game 1? why wasnt he with the team? seems a bit odd.

  68. jennifer October 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    I’ve always thought that he wasn’t a Yankee fan with the way he spoke about them. That just proves it. You stand and cheer the opposing pitcher, never mind that it is the WS, that it is Pedro.

  69. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    I get the feeling Girardi doesn’t want Gaudin on the mound period. Everyone suggesting that he starts a game go look at his numbers against left-handed hitters then go look at the Phillies lineup. It would be a huge mistake to start Gaudin in any game this series.

  70. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    I think Burnett on 3 days is a fine idea. The problem is that you have to pitch Andy on 3 days if you do that and that worries me a bit more…

    Hopefully we will be up 3-1 in game 5 and can pitch Gaudin.

  71. m October 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    3 days rest against the Yankees was just for that purpose. Against the Yankees! AJ was a cool customer against us last season. Doesn’t mean that will translate against the Phillies.

  72. rconn23 October 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Pettitte has been solid this postseason, and I expect a good effort tomorrow, but this is a game where Yankees need to hammer Hamels if he throws the way he has been in the last two series.

  73. Vrsce October 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Of course AJ pitches game 5.

  74. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Or game 5. I think it depends on the Phillies. I get the feeling Girardi doesn’t want a Lee-Gaudin matchup.

    ————————————————
    WYH

    I don’t think he’d mind it up 3-1.

  75. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Yea I agree with Patrick, Gaudin doesn’t matchup well against all those lefties

  76. G-C October 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Andy on three days rest is a disaster waiting to happen. Anyone recall game five of the 2000 ALDS? I believe he was staked to a 6-0 lead but had so little that he could barely make it through three innings.

    I wouldn’t bet on him being able to do it effectively nine years later. The unfortunate thing is that we (might) not have a choice.

  77. vin October 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    No matter what happens, AJ will be starting twice this series. The questions are:

    Will that 2nd start be game 5 or 6?
    Will Pettitte also pitch twice (3 and 6)?

    Also, using his performance in game 2 to determine whether or not he should start in game 5 is crazy. AJ is nothing, if not unpredictable. He could pitch 2 great games this series, 2 clunkers, or somewhere in between. How he pitched the previous time out really doesn’t have much bearing on how he will pitch in his next start.

    His confidence level seems to always be on a roller coaster. His stuff is always above average, at worst. The command comes and goes.

    He is the ultimate wild card.

  78. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Patrick, I respect your opinion but I disagree. Pitching Gaudin is taking one chance (although he’s pitched well for us), pitching Andy and AJ on short rest is taking two chances.

    The “hasn’t pitched in a month” theme doesn’t convince me. The “lefties hit him hard” theme does worry me some, I admit.

    On this one, I’m rolling with whatever Girardi decides.

  79. MR.OCTOBER October 30th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    A couple of sites are saying that CC has been anounced as GAME 4 starter already.

  80. Vrsce October 30th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Andy on three days rest is a disaster waiting to happen. Anyone recall game five of the 2000 ALDS? I believe he was staked to a 6-0 lead but had so little that he could barely make it through three innings.
    ==============================================

    Totally agree.

  81. Darrin October 30th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    I look forward to the good-hearted Philadelphia fans giving Andy and CC standing ovations this weekend when they leave the mound.

  82. roger(live from Amsterdam) October 30th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    What do you guys think..will Swisher or Hairston start in in game 3?

  83. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    CC is pitchin Game 4, I will be stunned if he doesn’t.

  84. Clay Buchholz Loves Laptops October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    “In the 1977 ALCS, the Yankees trailed the Royals 2 games to 1 in the best-of-five series. Facing elimination in Game 4, Billy Martin brought in his closer Sparky Lyle in the FOURTH inning. Lyle finished that game, and then came in the very next day in the 8th inning to close that one out as well”.

    Lyle also pitched a few innings in Game 1 of the World Series too.

  85. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    if you sat Swisher against a righty in Game 2 I don’t know why you’d play him against a lefty in Game 3 but who knows what they’ll do

  86. Jeff NJ October 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Boy the morale around here would be bad if we’re looking at a game 5 matchup of Lee vs. Gaudin. Sorta David and Goliath level. But that will just make winning that game (and the series) with the underdog on the mound for the Yankees.

  87. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Lefties vs Gaudin this season:

    .296/.408/.415

    Righties vs Gaudin this season:

    .224/.293/.380

    Phillies lineup for game 4 or 5:
    Rollins – S
    Victorino – S
    Utley – L
    Howard – L
    Ibanez – L
    Stairs – L
    Ruiz – R
    Feliz – R
    Pitcher – ?

    Werth could start in RF but Stairs would be the favorable matchup. That lineup would OWN Gaudin, he would have no shot at all. That’s 5-6 good to great left-handed hitters vs a guy that gets ripped apart by lefties.

    I’d much rather chance CC or A.J. on 3 days rest.

  88. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    if cc goes in game 4 and aj in game 5, both will be available to pitch in game 7 (burnett for one or two innings), which is great. the way he dominated ryan howard, i want him pitching to him late in the game.

  89. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    patrick, there is no way in hell that they start stairs over werth, no matter how bad righties are against gaudin.

  90. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Betsy, yesterday a poster came on and was really upset. I believe he’s from North Carolina. He said he had noticed something on Cliff Lee’s hat during the game and went back and played the game again on his DVR and said the substance was definitely pine tar. He said that the pine tar had to have been on Cliff Lee’s hands and that when he rubbed his hand on his cap the pine tar got on his cap. He described the substance and said it was definitely not dirt.

  91. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    “The “hasn’t pitched in a month” theme doesn’t convince me. The “lefties hit him hard” theme does worry me some, I admit. ”

    I’m not saying anything about “hasn’t pitched in a month,” I agree that’s a weak excuse.

    I just think that Gaudin is simply not able to handle the Phillies lineup. That lineup is built to give a guy like Gaudin nightmares.

    Perhaps pitching Andy and A.J. on short rest is two question marks but I think going that route is a lot less risky than letting Gaudin start.

  92. mick October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Francesa is taking the classic purist stance.

    The I-am-above-it-all “objective” stance he always takes.

    He believes he is just trying to be “fair.”

  93. upstate kate October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I could understand cheering a player on another team if they do something spectacular. That shows an appreciation for the game. Even the players do that. For example, the Rays cheering for Burley’s perfect game or Rays and O’s cheering for Jeter tying/breaking Gehrig’s record. That being said, why would anyone cheer Pedro? He pitched well, but was losing the game when he came out. Besides, what about all the nasty stuff he has done to our players? I don’t see why a Yankee fan would cheer for him.

  94. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    “patrick, there is no way in hell that they start stairs over werth, no matter how bad righties are against gaudin.”

    Why not? You aren’t in Charlie Manuel’s head. He’s done a lot stranger things than give Matt Stairs a start in RF.

    Even if Gaudin faces that lineup minus Stairs are you telling me he can get through it? Not a chance.

  95. m October 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    It could be that both Charlie and Joe are lining up their aces for a possible GM 7 start.

    If that’s the case we go?

    GM 4-CC
    GM 5-AJ
    GM 6-Andy
    GM 7-CC

    Subject to threat of elimination, though CC won’t be able to pitch in games 5 or 6 anyway. Andy on short rest doesn’t bother me so much as long as Joe keeps him on a short leash.

  96. vin October 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Blake,

    Swisher hits lefties just as well as righties. A bit lower SLG, higher OBP.

    http://www.baseball-reference......;t=b#plato

    I’m really curious to see who starts in RF in Philly. My guess is it’ll be Swish against Hamels and their 4th starter, definitely. I’m just not convinced he can hit high quality ML pitching. But that’s completely anecdotal.

  97. Darrin October 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Patrick – I’m not saying that starting Gaudin is a good idea, but when are we all going to finally stop with the prediction stuff?

    Remember how the Yankee lineup was going to MURDER Pavano? Remember how last night the Yankees were going to PUMMEL Pedro? Seriously…how many times do predictions have to go wrong before people realize you can’t just blindly look at lineups and predetermine an outcome?

  98. G. Love October 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    trisha,

    I was in my car the other day and I happened to turn on Francesa and a caller got through who questioned him about Lee using pine tar.

    Francesa dismissed it right away saying you can’t prove stuff like that and he went through it back in 86 with the Mets and Mike Scott (an Astros pitcher). Of course no one reminded Francesa he didn’t have show on FAN in 86.

    I was at game 1 and didn’t even think to look for it.

    What I will say is I haven’t seen that kind of snap in breaking pitches since Kenny Rogers ran us out of the ALDS with Detroit.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Even last night, it wasn’t even that cold and Pedro was constantly going to his mouth and licking his fingers like he just ate a bag of cheetos.

    However, that doesn’t bother me as much as the possibility of Lee using pine tar on the ball.

    The word is out there. If he did indeed use it and tries it again this series, I guarantee you Girardi will have them check his hat.

  99. roger(live from Amsterdam) October 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Doesn’t Swish hit better on the road?

  100. m October 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    I think it’s back to Swisher. But it could depend on what the “book” says.

    Hairston’s a little drama queen, no? Doesn’t like the umps calls. And then on the big double that he couldn’t corral in Anaheim he fell down dramatically. And I say that because someone on the radio was chuckling, that that’s always been Jerry.

  101. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    G. Love, well that is at least comforting to know. I hope Lee knows it’s out there as well. Or maybe I don’t…

    ;)

  102. vin October 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    To me, starting Pettitte on 3 days rest is win-win.

    If he’s good, then there’s no argument.

    If he’s laboring, then either Gaudin or maybe Aceves pitches anyway. The key would be Girardi having a quick hook.

  103. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Swish does hit better on the road and maybe he’ll pop one at the Bank bandbox.

  104. Pel October 30th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Mike Francesa: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Yankee fans didn’t clap for Pedro waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

    The Great Gazoo just called into the Francesa show and here’s what he said:

    “Hello, dumb-dumb.”

  105. m October 30th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Regarding the caps. I noticed in the gorgeous picture on the espn front page of AJ looking back at Jeter who had his hand on AJ’s shoulder that they were both sporting new caps with World Series logos. So my thought went straight to Joba, “yes! he can dump that gross sweat-stained cap”. So did Cliff Lee have a new cap on? Or did he stick with his “lucky” cap? Hmmmm….

  106. Blackaccord October 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Erin
    October 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
    Wait a minute-Francesa is upset that the crowd didn’t give Pedro an ovation? Is he serious?

    ———————————-

    Yes.. lets give a standing ovation to a opposition pitcher who gave up 3 runs in 6 innings (like its a stellar outing).. Remove Pedro and insert any other pitcher in that outing yesterday and nobody would mention a word about that outing… Just because its Pedro, we have to do all this crap.. Mike Francessa wants fans to call and scream and he’s making up his own fantasy world and expecting fans to do that.. No fan from any team would do that…

  107. Mike October 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    I can’t believe Mike Francesa is talking about Pedro. .and doesn’t mention a word about Burnett! . .

    Wake up Mike

  108. G. Love October 30th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Trisha,

    I’m almost sure the Yankees have heard the rumblings by now. They probably checked the tape.

    If they think he used it, they will go after him in his next start for it.

    Managers like Torre didn’t like to accuse players like that and just let things like that go.

    I don’t Girardi will do the same if there’s even a hint of it going on with Lee.

    I mean seriously. The guy had wicked stuff the other night. It was like watching an incredible whiffle ball pitcher.

    If he did it on his own, then he is right now the best pitcher in the post season hands down. I have no problems saying that.

    If he was, however, doctoring the ball? There’s no place for that in the world series.

    Girardi won’t lose the WS knowing that was going on.

  109. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Saying Yankee fans shouldn’t had booed Pedro is a perfect example why most Yankee fans question Francesa fandom.
    He just doesn’t sound like a Yankee fan most of the time.

  110. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    I’d be extremely happy if the Yanks were to sign Pedro in the off-season.

  111. m October 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Why would we cheer Pedro? He was never a Yankee. He threw down one of our coaches. He headhunted Jeter since forever. And he’s NOT a good story, no matter how much the media wants to make it out to be. He’s an old pitcher that has diminished stuff and has found a place in the NL where he can get by with just his craftiness.

  112. Vrsce October 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    We could cheer that Pedro lost.

  113. Mike October 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Why would you cheer anyone in the WORLD SERIES

    THE WORLD SERIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  114. rconn23 October 30th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    There’s zero evidence Lee used anything on the ball.

    The guy is a former Cy Young award winner and he has been dominant since he’s been with the Phillies.

    He’s a hell of a pitcher. I remember him giving a similar performance against the Yankees when he was with the Indians.

    He didn’t just morph into a great pitcher this postseason.

    Kenny Rogers in 2006 is a different case. Rogers has no where near the repetoire that Lee has as a pitcher.

    It wasn’t just questions about him using a substance. Rogers fastball had mysteriously picked up a few mph.

    I remember, Peter Gammons on Baseball Tonight cryptically remarking “Wow, um, he’s throwing really hard.”

    Something was just not right about Rogers in the 2006 postseason.

  115. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    “Remember how the Yankee lineup was going to MURDER Pavano? Remember how last night the Yankees were going to PUMMEL Pedro? Seriously…how many times do predictions have to go wrong before people realize you can’t just blindly look at lineups and predetermine an outcome? ”

    Let me rephrase. I am not saying Gaudin will without a doubt get destroyed by the Phillies, I’m just saying that there is a very high chance that he does. If you look at the numbers and at the lineup he is facing I don’t see how you can come to any other conclusion.

  116. Green Man October 30th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    There is absolutely no justification in starting Gaudin. None. Gaudin hasn’t pitched a meaningful inning in a month. Gaudin doesn’t pitch well to lefties on top of the fact that you’re going to throw him in Philly. Great idea. Let’s just throw that game away. We don’t need it. Let Philly have it.

    You have to go with your best and your best are AJ and Andy on short rest.

  117. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    You can guarantee that if Cliff Lee had something unusual on his hat and his pitches had unusual movement on them, and he dominated the Red Sox in a World Series game, there at least would be some “investigation” or just possibly “questioning” among the media. I do not believe Lee cheated. If he was sly enough to cheat in a World Series game, then the Yankees players would have had to been as oblivious and/or ignorant as humanly possible. I certainly would not mind Joe G. asking the umpires to check Lee next time we face him. But, who knows if Joe G. has heard anything about this. That would require the media to mention it to him, and aside from a couple Lohud reporters who actually appear to be unbiased Yankees fans, no anti-Yankees reporter will bring that up to him.

  118. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    “I’d be extremely happy if the Yanks were to sign Pedro in the off-season.”

    Heh I wouldn’t be opposed to it. I don’t know if he can still pitch in the AL East but it’d be fun to see him try. He sure looked good last night, his change-up and curve are still amazing pitches.

  119. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Yes Lee is a very good pitcher, but I’ve never seen his pitches move like that. Maybe he just had the night of his life.. but thats far and away the most bite he’s ever had on his stuff.

  120. Vrsce October 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    It is shameful to suggest that Lee cheated. Especially on no evidence but the impression of a third party.

  121. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I wish they would have signed Pedro this year. I don’t know why they didn’t at least consider it,they could have had him for next to nothing. They went with Gaudin instead?

  122. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Mike, Francessa is wide awake. This World Series only has one team, the Phillies. Who is A.J.? Who are the Yankees? Francessa knows what he is doing. Why talk about a team that does not exist?

  123. Neil October 30th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    What happens in games 3 and 4 will determine when Burnett is used next. Too soon to speculate.

  124. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Cheering for Pedro walking off the mound is for his first pitching coach, anti-Yankee person, HS coach, Red Sox fan, his mom, cousin whoever else is close to him. That’s for those types to do.
    What die hard Yankee fan would give him a standing O? Stupid comment by Francesa.

  125. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Patrick-

    I don’t think Pedro is necessarily a 34 game a year starter anymore, but I think he could be an effective swing man and an effective starter if he gets enough rest.

    With Joba and Hughes seemingly slated to start next your, Pedro would be pretty good insurance, I think.

  126. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Trevor, if Pedro left the game in the 4th inning after giving up 7 runs, I would have given him a standing O.

  127. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Nobody is suggesting he cheating, people are just stating facts, he had unreal movement (more than I’ve seen from him in the past) both on his cutter and that “spike curve” and he had some substance on his hat.

    Those are 2 facts. Thats not an accusation but it should be noted and looked in to.

  128. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    mick
    October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    Erin and jennifer

    He says he stood and cheered. Must have been alone in a booth somewhere in the stadium, or his house.

    *******************

    LOL :D

  129. bdog375 October 30th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    If Burnett feels comfortable with it I am all for it. If he cannot go on three days rest and the series goes 7 games, then either CC makes only two starts or either Pettitte or Burnett will only make 1 start in the series.

  130. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Very well stated Blake.

  131. Stultus Magnus October 30th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Vrsce October 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    It is shameful to suggest that Lee cheated. Especially on no evidence but the impression of a third party.

    ================

    And yet we had the Mariano spitball controversy for a day. If MLB can look into that ridiculous accusation, then it doesn’t harm them to look into this one.

    Personally, I agree with rconn, Lee has been a great pitcher for the last two seasons, there’s no reason to suspect he’s using pine tar in a WS game.

  132. ADam October 30th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    I would give the ball to AJ on 3 days rest.. and pettitte as well… You gotta hope the yanks win game 3 though… and then they yanks will have the advantage…

    If it goes to game 7… all hands on deck if the yanks have a lead after 6 innings Joe G can go and use every one to get 6 outs and then get the ball to mo.. if it comes to it… Game 3 will be huge though…

  133. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    “With Joba and Hughes seemingly slated to start next your, Pedro would be pretty good insurance, I think.”

    Agree 100%

    Pedro doesn’t really bother me, I get a kick out of his antics. His comments before game 1 and after game 2 were hilarious. And obviously he can still pitch a great game.

    The Yanks also MUST re-sign Andy Pettitte in my opinion. He has been the second best starting pitcher on the yanks since the all-star break.

  134. Doreen October 30th, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Well, there is justification for starting Gaudin. If you don’t want AJ or Andy (or CC for that matter) on short rest. But Gaudin is a 5-inning pitcher, it would depend on the matchup (not that those are infallible) and they’d have to be ready with a full bullpen – Ace and Joba would definitely have to bring their “A” games to follow up Gaudin.

    And, it’s baseball. Anything can happen. Eckstein won a World Series MVP, didn’t he? There ya go!

    While I think Pedro Martinez is a character, and while I’ll even give the benefit of the doubt that had he been a Yankee he’d be “king,” why would the home crowd cheer the road pitcher? Ever? Even if he had been throwing a no-hitter or perfect game, polite applause would be sparse. This is a guy that most Yankees fans HATE with a passion. You don’t ever think of Pedro without thinking about Zimmer (no matter what Zim has said about it not being Pedro’s fault) and Jeter and Soriano getting hit.

    Pedro became all cuddly when he got to the Mets, but never to Yankees fans. Never.

  135. GMAN October 30th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    two things about Cliff Lee are obvious to a true baseball fan.

    1. Cliff Lee is a great pitcher.

    2. Cliff Lee also has a foreign substance on the brim of his baseball cap.

    I only wish our Yankee pitchers also used that substance.

  136. Stultus Magnus October 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    The Yanks can do better than Pedro for a back up plan.

    Sign Harden, Durscheerererere, whatever it is, or Sheets.

    I’m sure there are others that are younger with a bigger upside.

  137. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Agree with that, I don’t know if I want Pedro for a whole season or it he could even hold up to a whole season. I think part of the reason he’s pitching so well now is because he only pitched the 2nd half.

  138. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    “You don’t ever think of Pedro without thinking about Zimmer (no matter what Zim has said about it not being Pedro’s fault) and Jeter and Soriano getting hit.”

    The funny part about the Jete and Sori getting hit, is one of those ABs, I am pretty sure the first AB, was ruled a “foul ball” and then the batter got out. That allowed Pedro to hit the 2nd batter and put only one runner on with 1 out.

    As far as Pedro goes, I know he is a dirty filthy scumbag, and also such for throwing down an old man like a rag doll, but I cannot help but think that Zimmer was a disgrace to the Yankees for that, and that Zimmer is also a scumbag. For all the things Zim has said about Mr. Steinbrenner, Zim comes across as a mighty scumbag himself.

  139. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    If you can get Sheets or Bedard for a cheap short term deal you have to jump on it. Both of those guys are really good if healthy…

  140. ADam October 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Sign Harden, Durscheerererere, whatever it is, or Sheets.

    I’d go with sheets surgically repaired arm over the other two… Esp if Andy decides to hang it up….

  141. GMAN October 30th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    I think the Yanks should sign Pedro for the 2010 season.
    Let him rest in the 1st half of season…
    Bring him in July for another World Series run.

    Pedro was an awesome pitcher.
    He is now just…a very good pitcher.

    My biggest problem with Pedro was tossing Zim to the ground.
    I also didn’t like how he head hunted Yankee Batters…
    but I would love to see him pitch against Popi Youklis, Pedroia and Drew!

  142. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    Pedro will be 39 next year. I’m pretty sure if he pitched the whole year he’d be shot by October.

    Now if he sits out again the first half and is available in Auguest or September then I’d think about it for the playoffs..

  143. Robbykid October 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    ARE WE SERIOSULY DISCUSSING SIGNING PEDRO!!?? ARE YOU GUYS NUTS!?

  144. Robbykid October 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    ARE WE SERIOSULY DISCUSSING SIGNING PEDRO!!?? ARE YOU GUYS NUTS!?

  145. Stultus Magnus October 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    If you can get Sheets or Bedard for a cheap short term deal you have to jump on it. Both of those guys are really good if healthy…

    ==============

    Yes, no reason to get involved with the Pedro circus. He’s had a couple good postseason starts, big deal.

    Did anybody follow him on the Mets? 1 of the 4 years was good.

    He’s old and injury prone.

  146. Laura • Yanks in 6! October 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    I’ve been telling you guys for weeks now that Francessa isn’t a real Yankees fan. His saying that we should have clapped for Pedro proves it.

  147. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Patrick, you know I’m in favor of re-signing Andy. I think you were commenting on the blog last winter during the great Andy Pettitte debate.

  148. DB October 30th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    Sure, let’s cheer the guy who headhunted half the Yankees team and threw down a 70 year old coach. What Planet is Francesa on.

    Pedro got what he deserved. He pitched well enough where we didn’t seranade him with “whose your daddy?” too much and he was booed when he left. Yankees Fans treated him the right way in my book

  149. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    You have to keep resigning Andy until he can no longer pitch this way. He’s been great this year.

  150. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Maybe I’m alone in this, but I don’t ever want to see Pedro in pinstripes.

  151. mick October 30th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    m October 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    It could be that both Charlie and Joe are lining up their aces for a possible GM 7
    ————————————————–
    m

    I that’s the case, CC-Lee 2 more times on 3days each, I take CC in a battle of attrition.

  152. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    Are you guys saying that you would not give him a standing ovation in Game 6 of the World Series if we are leading 3-2 with a chance to clinch and he gives up a quick 6-8 runs in 2-3 innings before his manager has a chance to get him out of there. Aside from a game never being over no matter how many runs you score, I’d give him a standing O.

  153. Blackaccord October 30th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    i stopped listening to mike and i’m tuned to 1050 espn.. atleast I don’t feel like breaking my computer..

  154. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Here is an umpiring question. Even if they don’t have replay, do the umpires not watch the replays in the stadium?

    I mean within seconds of a blown call the whole stadium and everyone at home knows it. Why don’t he umpires just watch the replay on the jumbotron have a conference and change the call. They don’t have to say they saw the replay they could just say another ump saw it better and change it…

  155. The Other Phil (Don't Feed the Trolls!) October 30th, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    I really don’t know why any of you listen to Francesca. He’s there to do one thing, and that’s to get ratings. He’ll say anything to get people to listen and call in. That’s his job.

  156. mick October 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    good point by francesa….

    if we go up 2-1 there is no need to use CC vs Lee in game 4.

    save him on normal rest for game 5 to get win #3, at least.

    then we have 2 shots at it w/ AJ and Andy on full rest.

    Game 3 is a Must Win.

  157. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    “Patrick, you know I’m in favor of re-signing Andy. I think you were commenting on the blog last winter during the great Andy Pettitte debate.”

    Oh yeah I’ve been commenting on here for awhile now. I was in favor of re-signing Mussina and Pettitte last offseason. Unfortunately Moose retired but I’m glad Cashman pulled the trigger on Andy, it’s paid huge dividends.

  158. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Blake,

    Because that would be the smart and logical thing to do and many umpires are neither :)

  159. The Other Phil (Don't Feed the Trolls!) October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Here is an umpiring question. Even if they don’t have replay, do the umpires not watch the replays in the stadium?

    I mean within seconds of a blown call the whole stadium and everyone at home knows it. Why don’t he umpires just watch the replay on the jumbotron have a conference and change the call. They don’t have to say they saw the replay they could just say another ump saw it better and change it…

    —–

    Umpires have never, and will never, admit they are wrong. They don’t change their minds and they don’t overrule each other. It’s a good ol’ boys network and they stick together.

    They should take a page from the NFL refs. They don’t get it all correct either, but they will point out a better angle if they see it.

  160. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    it would have been nice if they had Mussina right now

  161. JohnC October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Don’t assume Gaudin would get pounded. One thing to keep in mind is he has good control and keeps the ball down. His hard slider can induce alot of ground balls. If he can give you 5 innings, 3 runs, you sign up for that, especially if he is matched up against Blanton.

  162. Doreen October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    CR9

    Under normal game circumstances, Pedro no ovation from Yankees fans. Under the circumstances you state, an ovation would not be equated with showing him “love,” would it? ;)

  163. stuart a October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    fatcessa has no clue.

    you pitch only cc, aj, and pettitte in this series. cc and aj tired are better bets then gaudin.

    cc in game 4 regardless of what happens in 3 is a no brainer….go with the horses………………..

  164. sab October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    in case anyone wanted to get my 2 cents worth..

    if the yankees win Game #3 then I would guess Charlie Manuel pitches Cliff Lee in game #4…if lee pitches game #4 (with the yankees up 2 games to 1) then i would pitch gaudin….sort of like a give away game….then come back with CC in game #5 …so you concede game #4 tying the series 2 games apiece but you have your Ace in game #5 (with 4 days rest) to try to bring the series back to NY up 3 games to 2..if gaudin actually wins game #4 vs. Cliff Lee then World Series over…

    if the yankees win game #3 and Manuel decides NOT to pitch lee in game #4 then I would pitch CC in game #4 to try to go up 3 games to 1…then pitch gaudin in game #5 against Lee as your “give away game”..

    if the yankees lose game #3 then CC pitches game #4 no matter what…

  165. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    yea but if I’m an umpire I would much rather have the call right than have to answer question from the media and look like a buffoon for blowing the call… makes no sense to me. If i’m not 100% sure about a call I’m turnin around to watch the replay to see if I got it right. Its just unbelievalbe that all of America knows what the right call is and they cant change it….

  166. stuart a October 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    newsflash clowns pedro pitched 6 innings gave up 3 runs not exactly a no hitter…

    pedro also is a egomaniac headhunter……

    cc in game 1 pitched much better then pedro did yesterday. why is the bar set so low for that clown.. he is a clown listen to what he spouts from his mouth…….

  167. stuart a October 30th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    cliff lee has never pitched on short rest sportsfans. for him it may be an issue, cc has done it many times with mostly good results, huge difference………

  168. jpb1973 October 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    The Yanks can do better than Pedro for a back up plan.

    Sign Harden, Durscheerererere, whatever it is, or Sheets.

    I’m sure there are others that are younger with a bigger upside.

    ——————————————————-

    Why do the Yankees need to sign another starting pitcher? We will have a rotation of Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Chamberlain and Hughes next year…and that assumes we don’t bring Wang back.

    If anything the Yankees need to look at relievers in free agency. Mariano Rivera only has one more year left and I don’t think any of their young relievers will be ready to be a closer.

  169. 100 pitches of fun... October 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Game 3 is very important. If they lose then CC has to pitch game 4 on short rest. For the Phils if they win game 3 then Blanton will probably pitch game 4 and Lee game 5. Game 3 sets up the rest of the series pretty much. Phils would probably go to Blanton and Happ after Lee since they don’t think Pedro or Hamels can pitch on 3 days rest.

  170. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    sab, I think you pitch CC no matter what in game 4 because I think he will have the advantage no matter who Philly pitches and that game will be super important to either avoid going down 3-1 or to go up 3-1

  171. BlueshirtBrawler October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I think I’d rather go with Gaudin in Game 4 than Game 5. Why push CC on short rest again? If the Yankees win Saturday, Gaudin should definitely start game 4. Because then you set up your pitching in Games 5, 6 and 7, if necessary as CC, AJ and Pettitte. And if CC pitches on Monday he could pitch again in relief, if necessary in Game 7.

    I think you’ll see the Phillies name either Blanton or J.A. Happ as their Game 4 starter so you go with the matchup. There’s no need to start CC on short rest because then you are forced to pitch Gaudin against Lee in Game 5 which would be a disaster or you pitch A.J. and Pettitte on short rest in Games 5 & 6, and that’s not a great idea either. Aside from CC’s start vs. the Angels, Yankee pitchers on short rest have never done well in the recent era. I am not a proponent of pitching all of our guys on short rest if its not necessary.

  172. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I think Joba stays in the pen next year.

  173. Bill October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Burnett on 3-days rest in Game 5 is almost a no brainer. The only scenario where I wouldn’t start Burnett in Game 5 is if we win the next two. In that case you might as well let Gaudin deal with Cliff Lee. Then in the final two games you’ll have Burnett to start Game 6 on full rest with Pettitte able to come out of the bullpen and CC to start game 7.

    If the series is close forget Gaudin. We can go to him out of the bullpen if we need to.

  174. stuart a October 30th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    clowns CC is pitching game 4 regardless why do you not understand that??????????????

  175. jpb1973 October 30th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    i stopped listening to mike and i’m tuned to 1050 espn.. atleast I don’t feel like breaking my computer..

    ——————————————————

    Good move!!! It took some adjustment but I have weened myself off Francessa. I was never a big Christopher Russo fan but his presence on the olsd show gave some balance to it. Also, he was nowhere near as arrogant as Francessa.

  176. CR9 October 30th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Doreen, if Pedro helped us get the World Series in the circumstances I stated, I certainly would give him a standing O, out of “love.” It would be taken as a mock cheer by the media and commentators, but I would truly appreciate him for helping us get a World Series. Obviously, after a couple weeks, I would not care for Pedro anymore, remembering his scumbaggery, steroid usage, headhunting, violence and so on.

  177. sab October 30th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    stuart a – 90% of this blog also said that the yankees wouldn’t have any issues hitting Lee and did you see how that turned out….99% also said that they would destroy pedro and the old man held his own rather well…

    bottom line – lee on 3 days rest may be as effective as lee on 4 days rest – and the way he’s pitched the last 4 weeks you’ve got to believe he will – so if they’re up 2 games to 1 there’s no need to go head to head with CC in game #4…

    sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war….

  178. jpb1973 October 30th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I think Joba stays in the pen next year.

    —————————————————–

    The Yankees haven’t spent 2 years stretching Joba out to 156 innings so they can put him back in the bullpen. He will be in the rotation next season.

  179. Shame Spencer October 30th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Was anyone at the game last night watching the big screen before the first pitch?? There was a point where they showed the dugout and Kevin Long was absolutely ENRAGED. He was throwing something in the dugout and sitting by the batters equipment and seemed to be very angry and yelling as he threw something.

    Unfortunately I only caught it for a second and they changed what was on the giant tv in about 5 seconds, did anyone else see it or know why he was so angry? I figured he was tryin to pump some guys up but he actually looked annoyed.

  180. Laura • Yanks in 6! October 30th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    The earliest Lee pitches is Monday. He’s never done short rest before and I doubt that he’s going to start now.

  181. randy l. October 30th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    i don’t see a problem with pitching burnett on three days rest on the fifth game.

    once that’s done, the 6th game has two possibilities, start pettitte and have gaudin there if needed or start gaudin and have pettitte if needed .

    if gaudin goes in game 5, pettitte won’t be available. if gaudin needs to be replaced early the whole bullpen will have to be used. there’ll be a day off to get ready for game 6 but still that’s a lot of bullpen innings that are going to have to be thrown.

    what if game four uses up a lot of the bullpen. that impacts having gaudin go in game 5.

    i see no scenarios where gaudin starts game 4 instead of sabathia.

    i could be wrong , but i think it’s going to be aj for game 5.

  182. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Joba and Hughes will be in the rotation next year, but Hughes will be under an innings limit and who knows how well either will pitch?

    We need at least one more pitcher who can fill in the rotation when needed. He needs to be good and relatively cheap.

  183. rb October 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Here is an umpiring question. Even if they don’t have replay, do the umpires not watch the replays in the stadium?

    I mean within seconds of a blown call the whole stadium and everyone at home knows it. Why don’t he umpires just watch the replay on the jumbotron have a conference and change the call. They don’t have to say they saw the replay they could just say another ump saw it better and change it…

    —————-

    I have never seen a controversial call replayed on the Jumbotron. Fans in the stadium see the replays on the multitude of screens around the park, but not on the big screen. I’ve often wondered if it was written into the umpires’ CBA.

  184. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Sab- If you’re up 2-1 then why would you want to give a game away at that point. You pitch CC and try to take it to 3-1.

    I personally don’t think Lee will pitch game 4. I think Manuel would’t have let him go the distance with a 6 run lead if he were thinking about doing that…

    I think its CC/Blanton in game 4 which is why winning game 3 could give us a huge advantage.

  185. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! October 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Yeah there was a day I would have thought it was outrageous of accusing Andy Pettitte or even Arod of cheating. Those days are in the past. If there’s something to be investigated, investigate it. Period.

  186. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Erin, he led off with that joke of a comment…..fortunately, he’s now on football.

    I don’t get why the Phils had Lee pitch a complete game if they were/are contemplating pitching him on short rest. What’d he throw, 122 pitches? If the Yankees are up 2-1, I do not throw CC on short rest; why waste him against Lee? Of course he could win, but Lee is so good that it also could be a draw or a loss. Up 2-1, I pitch Gaudin and let CC have his full rest against a lesser pitcher.

  187. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    rb, well if the fans can see it that quickly then the umps should be able to as well. NFL coaches always watch the replay before they throw the challenge flag, maybe the NFL is just more interested in getting the calls right….

  188. Blackaccord October 30th, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    If CC pitches game 5, he won’t be able to pitch game 7…

    I think if there is a game 7, CC should pitch it.. We can spin around the record and pick and choose when CC should pitch, but I think Game 4 and Game 7 has to be CC..

  189. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Blanton going game 4

  190. Zach in Port Jeff October 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Joe Blanton starting game 4.

  191. Blackaccord October 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Joe Blanton is starting game 4 according to ESPN 1050

  192. Erin October 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    betsy
    October 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    Erin, he led off with that joke of a comment…..fortunately, he’s now on football.

    ***********

    What a shame. LOL

  193. rb October 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    But that would be defacto institution of instant replay. The umpires aren’t going to do that until MLB authorizes it. I’m not saying I don’t think replay should be incorporated, I’m just saying that it’s not something the umpires can do right now.

  194. disco stu October 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    I think any chance Gaudin getting a start in the series went by the boards the minute we lost Game 1. Considering that Gauding has thrown just 1 inning in close to a month, to then thrust him into a World Series start where every game is so vital makes no sense.

    The only scenario I could have seen is if we were up 3-0 … and even then, I think CC would have pitched on short rest.

    I dont see any other plan that makes more sense than using CC, AJ, and Andy as our starters the rest of the way. I know in the case of Andy, he has not done well historically on short rest, but its the World Series and you dont hold anything back now.

  195. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Great news. Blanton is a back of the rotation starter, Yanks should do well against him. Keyword: SHOULD

  196. GreenBeret7 October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Joe Blanton will start Game 4 for Philadelphia.

  197. jpb1973 October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Joba and Hughes will be in the rotation next year, but Hughes will be under an innings limit and who knows how well either will pitch?

    We need at least one more pitcher who can fill in the rotation when needed. He needs to be good and relatively cheap.

    ——————————————————

    You are probably right about Hughes, but Chad Gaudin would be a perfect fit for that role. He can work as a long reliever until the Yankees need him to start…and hwe doesn’t cost as much as a high-priced free agent.

  198. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Is that official? I’ve been saying that Lee wouldn’t pitch game 4 since Wednesday night when Charlie left him in with a 6 run lead.

  199. randy l. October 30th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    so lee has never started on three days rest before.

    well, he’s never been in the world series either before.

    if the phillies are down 2-1 and sabathia is pitching, manuel is going to go with blanton ?

    that’s a tough decision because if CC beats blanton, it’s 3-1 and your ace lee will only get one more game.

  200. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Trish, thanks!

    Francesa lives in his own world, seriously. The WS is life and death in terms of baseball – NO opposing pitcher is going to get applauded, nevermind Pedro. Mike loves who he loves (Omar, Pedro) and that colors everything he says.

  201. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    With Blanton going in game 4, I would pitch CC anyway despite short rest.
    Lee will likely go in game 5 and if you save CC for that game that’s not much of an advantage if you’re the Yankees. Call it a toss up game.

  202. betsy October 30th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Can anyone post Buster Olney’s Insider blog on game 2 from ESPN? Thanks!

  203. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “Is that official?”

    Manuel just said it in his press conference. Said Lee has pitched alot of innings and has never pitched on short rest so that would be asking too much of him to do it now.

  204. tex's friend October 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Blanton in game 4? pitch cc and go for the kill

  205. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    I go CC/Blanton game 4, and AJ/Lee Game 5. Hopefully thats all we’ll need

  206. roger(live from Amsterdam) October 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    What have the yankees done against blanton?

  207. 100 pitches of fun... October 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I would definitely pitch CC in game 4 against Blanton. Hamels has been very bad and Blanton is awful. The Yanks would have the advantage in the next 2 games before I am assuming Lee pitches game 5. Then you could have Lee against AJ in game 5.

  208. Patrick October 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Agreed randy, sounds like a premature decision which could potentially be a very bad move for Philly.

    I’d rather face Blanton so I’m happy.

  209. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I would applaud Pedro if he were retiring (and not in an ironic way), and I would applaud Pedro if he had been hit by a line drive and then got up and walked off the field.

    But why would a Yankee fan applaud Pedro for pitching well against the Yanks? I don’t get it.

  210. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Tommorow nights game is crucial. If Andy wins then it allows CC to go for the jugular against their #4 on Sunday.

  211. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Yanks vs. Blanton

    http://www.baseball-reference......as=pitcher

  212. Wave Your Hat October 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Charlie Manual is a good manager. If he has chosen not to pitch Lee on short rest I’d believe Manual knows what he is doing.

    Either Gaudin will face Blanton in Game 4, or CC, AJ and Andy will all pitch on short rest. I don’t see Girardi letting Lee and Gaudin match up in game 5. I lean towards Girardi going with Gaudin in game 4 but who knows.

  213. Doreen October 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Completely emptied out? Exaggerate much? I caught 2 seconds of Francesa (YES was left on in my other room and I walked past the tv – quickly switched to the Food network.)

  214. sab October 30th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Blake
    October 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
    Sab- If you’re up 2-1 then why would you want to give a game away at that point. You pitch CC and try to take it to 3-1.

    I personally don’t think Lee will pitch game 4. I think Manuel would’t have let him go the distance with a 6 run lead if he were thinking about doing that…

    I think its CC/Blanton in game 4 which is why winning game 3 could give us a huge advantage.
    ============================================================
    hey blake – the point is moot now – if blanton indeed is pitching game #4 (i would think charlie manuel isn’t THAT big of an idiot and pitches lee in game #4 if the yankees win game #3) than i would pitch cc in game #4 regardless of what the yankees do in game #3…
    but if lee pitches game #4 (and the yankees are up 2 games to 1)the reason i hold back CC is that I’m not wasting my biggest bullet when the phillies are using their cannon ball in the same game….i’m giving that game up (by that i mean i don’t pitch CC but of course there is still the chance we win the game)…

    this also gives CC the extra day’s rest…but as i stated if blanton pitches game#4 then I pitch cc regqardless of what the yankees do in game #3 – then if the yankees win games 3 & 4 – i pitch gaudin vs lee in game #5 and have aj, andy and even CC ready for games 6 & 7 –

    wow if the stars aren’t aligning for the yankees with this blanton move i don’t know what other sign they can get…maybe Lee can get Mono or something making him useless the rest of the way…

  215. Zach in Port Jeff October 30th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Why are the Phillies, including their fans and media, all so preoccupied with Yankee Stadium and Yankee fans?

  216. Yanks Fan October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    The only way Gaudin would have started Game 4 was if the Yankees were up 3-0. If Blanton really is starting Game 4 then you have to throw CC on 3 days rest. If the Yankees can win Game 3 then they have a huge advantage in Game 4. Gaudin does not start a game in this series. AJ Vs. Lee in Game 5. If the Yankees are able to take a 3-1 lead (that is a really big if) then you have to try to close it out with AJ Vs. Lee.

  217. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    “I go CC/Blanton game 4, and AJ/Lee Game 5. Hopefully thats all we need”

    They’re not (Yankees) winning all 3 in Philly. Highly doubtful.
    IF the Yankees take games 3 and 4, you just pitch Gaudin in game 5. And come back home and have Burnett/Pettitte in game/s 6 and 7.

  218. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Those Phils and their manager are a chatty bunch. Not subscribers to “loose lips sink ships” I guess.

  219. stuart a October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    i am not saying Lee cannot pitch on 3 days rest I am simply saying he has not done it ever yet….

    for him it is unknown, for sabathia and burnett they have done it successfully especially sabathia…..

    if i am philly i do pithc lee on 3 days, why the hell not. is balanton better then lee on 3 days? no way….

  220. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    I honestly think Lee pitched the game of his life in Game 1 and if he and CC lock horns again then I like CC’s chances especially if they are both on short rest. Going with Blanton in Game 4 assures that they won’t meet again however and also assures that if it goes 7 then it will be CC against someone other than Cliff Lee

  221. sab October 30th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Zach in Port Jeff
    October 30th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    Why are the Phillies, including their fans and media, all so preoccupied with Yankee Stadium and Yankee fans?
    =====================================================
    peni….errrr…stadium envy….
    thats what being a yankee means – men want to be you..women want to be with you…

  222. Comet October 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Philles set Blanton for Game 4
    By Joseph Pawlikowski
    Hot off the Twitter presses: Charlie Manuel will go with Joe Blanton in Game 4. This is presumably against CC Sabathia. This plays into the morning post about the Phillies giving the Yankees an advantage. Lining up Sabathia against Blanton certainly gives the Yankees that. That could put the pressure on Cliff Lee in a potential elimination Game 5. · (1)

  223. roger(live from Amsterdam) October 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Pat,Those aren’t great numbers….

    Isn’t Blanton a groundball pitchers btw??

  224. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Trevor, I agree that if they are up 3-1 you pitch Gaudin in game 5…I got my opinions confused there

  225. Michelle b. speaking from yankee stadium west October 30th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Well its good to see that A-rod hits .571 off Blanton, hopefully the next two games will get him going.

  226. Zach in Port Jeff October 30th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    For a city that has never known that they even had a baseball team until a few years ago, The Frillies and their fans are sure an arrogant bunch. Unbelievable.

  227. rconn23 October 30th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Please let’s not start with the ” Joe Blanton is pitching, we’ll win for sure” nonsense.

  228. Michelle b. speaking from yankee stadium west October 30th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Tex’s #’s off blanton are very nice too:
    AB
    27 9 1 0 3 7 1 3 .333 .357 .704 1.061

  229. Blake October 30th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Manuel’s thinking probably in pitching Blanton is that if they can just take of the next 2 games then they go with Lee in game 5 and should have the advantage. This is why Game 3 is so important.

    We don’t wanna go into Game 5 tied 2-2

  230. rconn23 October 30th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    “They’re not (Yankees) winning all 3 in Philly. Highly doubtful.”

    No it isn’t. There is no reason to say that.

  231. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Phillies are a chatty bunch. Now the manager is taking shots at the Yankee fans for leaving early?
    Why does he concern himself with that? I can see why Met fans can’t stand that team.
    Between Rollins big mouth, Victorino too-he can talk, Pedro, now the their manager taking shots at the opposing teams fans. It’s enough to make you dislike them.

  232. Zach in Port Jeff October 30th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Zach in Port Jeff
    October 30th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    Why are the Phillies, including their fans and media, all so preoccupied with Yankee Stadium and Yankee fans?
    =====================================================
    peni….errrr…stadium envy….
    thats what being a yankee means – men want to be you..women want to be with you…
    ====================

    Sab, there was a Philly troll on here the other night, went by the name “Schweitzer”…guy even had his own blog.

    Anyways, I aptly diagnosed him with with “Blog-envy”. Blog-envy can often times be a debilitating condition.

  233. Michelle b. speaking from yankee stadium west October 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    The Philadelphia Inquirer decided to rewrite the lyrics to “empire state of mind”. Have a look!

    “Empire State of Mind” and making it more Fightin’s friendly. Feel free to sing the new lyrics next time you hear the song on the radio, which should be any second now:

    “In New York, Concrete jungle where Phils dreams are made of, there’s nothing Lee can’t do. Now you’re in New York. These streets will make Pedro feel brand new. Big lights will inspire Chooch! Let’s hear it for New York, New York, New York.”

  234. Trevor October 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Oh and it wasn’t THAT early in the game. It was the 8th inning…
    The way Lee was pitching and with them taking a 6 to love lead, Yankees weren’t winning that game. Most fans realized that.

  235. S.o.S.-GIRARDI = GENIOUS manuel = elmer fudd October 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Fellas. Dont be too hard on Elmer Fudd. He makes me bust up in post game interviews. Im waiting for him to say “where am i? Who are you people?” The man IMO isnt all there.

  236. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    michelle

    The majority of Alex and Tex’s ABs against Blanton were from when they faced him often in the AL West days. Not alot of recent data.

  237. Michelle b. speaking from yankee stadium west October 30th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    there isnt a lot of AB’s against them anyway, im just saying in short sample size, they both see him well, i dont see him as a better pitcher today then when he pitched with the A’s.

  238. pat October 30th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    michelle

    I was wrong. Tex was from AL West days. Alex from ’05-’08 Yankees.

  239. S.o.S.-GIRARDI = GENIOUS manuel = elmer fudd October 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    Speaking of the song Empire state of mind. Did anyone have trouble tistening to the words coming out of jay z mouth? It was the first time i heard the song and i had my ears glued to the television set wanting to hear it clearly. Didnt get much. Had to go online and read the lyrics later on.

  240. Bret the Hitman October 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    This Phillies team is tough and scary. They would likely pummel Gaudin in the ‘Band Box’. I want Joe to throw CC in Game 4 regardless of the outcome of Pettitte’s start in Game 3. I’d like to see Burnett throw on short rest and Andy again on short rest. CC and AJ can do it and if Andy should hit a wall in Game 7, the bullpen will be loaded most likely since CC and AJ will give innings in games 5 + 6.

    I’d go:

    Andy-Game 3
    CC-Game 4 on short rest
    AJ-Game 5 on short rest
    Andy-Game 7 on short rest

    This series might come down to a battle of the bullpens in Game 7 at Yankees Stadium, in which case the Yankees have the advantage if Mo, Joba, Hughes and Robertson are up to the task. Our bullpen is decidedly better than the Phillies. So I say, burn out our best starters in Games 5 + 6 and let our bullpen come in early to bail out Andy if need be in Game 7.

  241. Boatz n Hose October 30th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    The Philadelphia Enquirer is a two-bit newspaper that is a half-step up from the National Enquirer. Stupid city for stupid people.

    They want to rewrite the lyrics to Empire State of Mind? Wow, that’s the most creativity they can offer? No wonder they are 80 miles south of NYC.

  242. Mike S. October 30th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    The biggest question of whether to use AJ in Game 5 (with CC in Game 4) is this…who catches him? It would be easy to say Molina and maintain the status quo, but remember that the Yanks are losing the DH. Do you really want to lose the bats of Matsui AND Posada? Losing the DH and having a lineup with Melky 7, Molina 8 and AJ 9 in Game 5 could be a big problem.

  243. Mike S. October 30th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Phils making a mistake? If I were Manuel, I’d go with Happ in Game 4. Blanton is 0-3, 8.18 vs. the Yanks in his career. Could work nicely for us Yankees fans.

  244. YankWatcher October 30th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Why is everybody always picking on Melky? He’s been getting more than his share of hits!

  245. champ809 October 30th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Blake
    October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
    I think Joba stays in the pen next year.

    __________________________________________

    you really have to be asleep at the wheel if you think the Yanks suffered through the Joba rules this year and all the criticism that came with it only to turn around and do a 180 because some fans and “experts” on blogs don’t understand the natural development of a young starter….

    next year the Yanks will turn Joba loose and expect 200 innings and i think he’ll win 16+ games as the #4 starter
    but trust me he ain’t going to the pen!

  246. David October 30th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    If Lee is starting Game 5, I wouldn’t want to waste Burnett going against him. In other words, I think the Yanks’ best strategy is to win all the games that Lee doesn’t start.
    That means CC in Game 4, Gaudin (and a bunch of relievers) in Game 5, Burnett in Game 6 and CC in Game 7.

    BTW I’d consider starting either Coke or Marte in Game 5 to face the lefties at the beginning of the lineup. Then bring in Gaudin in the 2nd inning. After all, Gaudin isn’t going to last more than 5 innings.


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