Philling up the notebooks on another off-day
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Oct 30, 2009 
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Greetings from Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia. The Yankees rode the rails down to Philadelphia, jumping on a charter train instead of their usual flight. I drove, and let me take this opportunity to assure you that the New Jersey Turnpike is especially lovely this time of year.
The Phillies are on the field now and the Yankees will be working out in a little over an hour. We’ll have Joe Girardi and Andy Pettitte in the interview room shortly. Chad and I will be back with any news and notes throughout the afternoon.
Blaton pitching Game 4 for the Phillies…like how this sets up…Pettitte vs Hamels then most likely CC vs Blaton….Yank bats need to get going and take 2 straight to go up 3-1 and seize control
we can do special things if the pitching holds up
tampayank – where did you see that info?
I was listening to Francessa and he said C. Manuel just confirmed that Blaton will pitch Game 4….Girardi hasn’t officially announced the Yanks Game 4 starter but I’m guessing it will be CC like everyone thinks…The Phils are going w/ Lee in Game 5
yeah it is all over twitter from PeteAbe and Joel Sherman. If this is true the Yankees really need to hit them around the next 2 games and if they do win them maybe go for the kill with A.J in game 5 instead of risking Gaudin.
nevermind – found it.
http://www.philly.com/philly/s.....ame_4.html
Thanks for the update. I was actually wondering how the Yanks would travel to Philly. By train sounds great, old school, like the Gehrig and Ruth days.
I also see that Blanton is up on the mlb.com schedule, but has that been confirmed? If true, it means that Lee will pitch Game 5 and that will be all for Cliff (unless he pitches in Game 7 on two days rest??)
How would this line up if the series goes the distance? Pedro and Hamels in Games 6 & 7 at Yankee Stadium?
Ah i love CBP. Wonderful ballpark for the Yankees to bomb some out.
Great park in Philly. If you can score some tickets, you should absolutely take the ride down.
We don’t wanna be 2-2 going into Game5. Thats what the Phillies are counting on and why they made this move to pitch Blanton in Game 4.
If they win either game 3 or 4 then they have Lee on full rest in Game 5. However if they don’t then the Yankees should be set up for #27.
Lee better not use pine tar this time. If he does the Yankees should call him out on it.
And the Yankees need to beat Hamels and Blanton. Both of those guys have not been pitching well.
But the one thing that this move does do is it assures that Lee will only pitch one more game out of 5 and CC will likely pitch 2 out of 5..
Yanks Acela to Phila
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....adelp.html
This just makes Game 3 even bigger. If the Yanks win this game thier up 2-1 wit CC vs. Blanton for Game 4. We could see us go up 3-1 on the series with Gaudin losing Game 5, 3-2 with Burnett and Pettite. Sounds good to me.
I know Lee was awesome but he WON’T be as good his second start
Big break for the Yankees. This changes the argument a big about who pitches game 5 now. Do you pitch Gaudin and pretty much concede the game? Hope not because I’m goin to game 5. I don’t think Girardi would be OK with just giving a game up to the Phillies. If the Yankees go into game 5 up 3-1, I think Girardi is going to give AJ, Andy, and CC the ball needing to win 1 game.
“Blake
October 30th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
We don’t wanna be 2-2 going into Game5. Thats what the Phillies are counting on and why they made this move to pitch Blanton in Game 4.
If they win either game 3 or 4 then they have Lee on full rest in Game 5. However if they don’t then the Yankees should be set up for #27.”
Very good point. But i like that we only have to face Lee one more time and hopefully our pitching will hold up and our bats will show up big time!
G, that is what I’m hoping for. The next 2 games could decide the series…
Just looking at Citizens you can see what a bandbox it is. Have the Yankees ever played there?
pat
October 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Yanks Acela to Phila
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..adelp.html
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Love Damon’s shirt
CC should go on 3 days rest. CC against Blanton is in the yanks favor to get a win. Pettitte should also beat Hamels. I would like to see the offense really come alive against Hamels and Blanton.
Blanton announced as the Game 4 starter. Woohoo!
There is a lot of talk of games 4 and 5 today but we still have to play game 3.
With it coming up on Sat it seems like Andy Pettitte is slotted in an ideal spot. He’s fully capable of throwing 6 innings or more and he’s coming off good outings against the Twins and Angels.
We have a rested bullpen and he is matched up against Cole Hamels who has been struggling. If confidence is an indicator then Andy has the upper hand.
I think the only way Gaudin pitches Game 5 is if its 3-1 yankees and then I think its the right move because you have AJ and CC pitching games 6 and 7 at the Stadium with Pettite in relief and I like our chances to take one of those..
As Blake said, Manuel is banking on this series being no worse than 2-2 for the Phillies come Monday. Then he can use Lee on full rest to try and put the Phillies up 3-2. It might work, but even if that scenario unfolded exactly as planned, I would still give the Yanks a good fighting chance to go back home and take Games 6 & 7, especially since they won’t see Lee anymore.
The Yanks played there 3 years ago. I saw them smack Hamels around too. He was just breaking in though.
Erin
October 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
pat
October 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Yanks Acela to Phila
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..adelp.html
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Love Damon’s shirt
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MPB Johnny Damon can rock any look
28 hours and 18 minutes until Game 3!!!!!!!
If you’re the Yanks, you just want to get back to NY. With Hamels pitching game 5, NY has a huge advantage in games 6 & 7. Obviously I hope they take all three in Philly. But taking 1 of 3 would put them in great position.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
This Phillies team is tough and scary. They would likely pummel Gaudin in the ‘Band Box’. I want Joe to throw CC in Game 4 regardless of the outcome of Pettitte’s start in Game 3. I’d like to see Burnett throw on short rest and Andy again on short rest. CC and AJ can easily pitch on short rest. The question is can Andy Pettitte?
The key will be the bullpen in Andy’s start. If he happens to hit a wall in Game 7, the bullpen will be loaded most likely since CC and AJ will give innings in games 5 + 6.
I’d go:
Andy-Game 3
CC-Game 4 on short rest
AJ-Game 5 on short rest
Andy-Game 7 on short rest
This series might come down to a battle of the bullpens in Game 7 at Yankees Stadium, in which case the Yankees have the advantage if Mo, Joba, Hughes and Robertson are up to the task. Our bullpen is decidedly better than the Phillies. So I say, burn out our best starters in Games 5 + 6 and let our bullpen come in early to bail out Andy if need be in Game 7.
AJ could beat Lee in game 5 if that unfolds. AJ is just as good as Lee on any given night and I have to believe that we will have better AB’s against Cliff next time around.
I skipped Game 6. Oh brother.
Let’s try again.
Game 3-Andy
Game 4-CC on short rest
Game 5-AJ on short rest
Game 6-Pettitte on short rest
Game 7-CC on short rest
The biggest challenge the Yanks (and the fans) face over the weekend is to not get caught up in the pitching matchups. Pettitte v Hamels and Sabathia v Blanton are big Yankee advantages. On paper only.
Don’t be fooled – the Yanks can easily lose both of these games if they’re not careful. And if that happens they’re most likely finished.
I only mention this because the blog is going to be inundated the next 24hrs with questions like “how is Girardi going to set the rotation once we go up 3-1″ and “I can’t wait to see Hamels and Blanton whipped like rented mules!”
Its pretty likely this thing will go 7 and if I could fastfoward to that game right now with CC vs Hamels at Yankee Stadium then I’d be tempted to take it..
I agree Darrin, Hamels was the WS MVP last year and is very capable. Blanton has AL experience and I’ve seen pitchers like him gives the Yankees fits before.
“Charlie Manual is a good manager.”
Haha funny stuff wave
Patrick,
You don’t think so? How come?
Regardless of when AJ pitches, he, Eiland, and the coaching staff better have a different approach. He was great in Game 2 because of his first pitch strikes, which set up his devastating breaking ball.
BUT, I’m sure the Phils will look @ tape and make adjustments, in which case AJ can’t just go after each batter the same way he did in Game 2, or he will get hammered.
“MPB Johnny Damon can rock any look”
Whenever I see MPB the letters get flipped around in my mind and I think you are saying Man-Bear-Pig Johnny Damon.
Yea Aj will need to throw 1st pitch curveballs for strikes next time out. If he can do that he should be fine.
Pitt Yan Fan
Yankees played 3 games there in June 2006. Record was 1-2
The Philadelphia Enquirer is a two-bit newspaper that is a half-step up from the National Enquirer. Stupid city for stupid people.
They want to rewrite the lyrics to Empire State of Mind? Wow, that’s the most creativity they can offer? No wonder they are 80 miles south of NYC.
“Patrick,
You don’t think so? How come?”
He is one of those managers that lets his “gut” make a lot of decisions. He has done some silly things in the past, including leaving Pedro in too long last night.
I can’t criticize him that badly because obviously he just won a world series, I just don’t like his style of managing.
here’s what i don’t understand: everyone seems to be saying they’d go with gaudin if we have a lead, but if we’re down they’d go to cc/burnett/pettitte on 3 days rest. my question is, if you would go this route when they’re down and facing elimination, wouldn’t that mean it’s the option that gives them the best chance to win? and if that’s the case, wouldn’t they go with the option that gives them the best chance to win whether they’re up or down? i mean this is the freaking world series!
Phill-ing up…ouch ….jez
With Swisher being benched for last nights game what are the chances he bust’s out of his slump?
Patrick
October 30th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
“MPB Johnny Damon can rock any look”
Whenever I see MPB the letters get flipped around in my mind and I think you are saying Man-Bear-Pig Johnny Damon
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Ummm… is Man-Bear-Pig a term of endearment where you are from???
Sorry, I read it wrong. Y’s won 2 out of 3, back then
Erica-how was the concert? Who was your favorite?
For anyone who wants to be jealous-
Since we are talking about “State of Mind” songs. I saw Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel perform “New York State of Mind” together last night. Amazing concert!
As far as cities and people go, I hate Philadelphia much more than Boston.
Crush them for us please, Yankees.
Erica – always OPPC
October 30th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
For anyone who wants to be jealous-
Since we are talking about “State of Mind” songs. I saw Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel perform “New York State of Mind” together last night. Amazing concert!
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Very jealous.
Erin
October 30th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Erica-how was the concert? Who was your favorite?
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I think Simon and Garfunkel were my favorites. There is nothign quite like “The Boxer” and “Bridge Over Troubled Water” live.
It was also a great moment when Springsteen brought out John Fogerty for a few songs.
Blake – i agree, being up 3-1 going into game 5 is obviously ideal, but frankly, coming home down 3-2 with AJ on regular rest and CC on short rest in game 7, with andy there in support, versus pedro (game 6) and hamels (game 7) isnt a game over scenario for us.
Lets put it this way…..if we come back down 3-2, then we have to win one game, game 6…..and if we do that, CC in game 7 vs Hamels is money in the bank and come midnight next Thursday we will be spraying champagne.
Erica-sounds great. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is one of my favorites. I love Simon and Garfunkel.
I like pizza-
Pitching CC, AJ and Andy all on short rest is IMO a “high variance” strategy. It could give you the best result, but it could also give you the worst.
If we are down in the series going into the game Gaudin would start, the high variance strategy may be the best strategy. If the Yanks are up in the series, the high variance strategy may be the worst strategy.
Can we stop mentioning that Cliff Lee might have had pine tar on his hat? We are Yankee fans, we do not need to make excuses for a loss. Cliff Lee dominated us plain and simple. We are not like Angels fans who thought Mo was throwing spit balls.
Do you think they threw at Teixeira intentionally last night? That ticked me off.
Yanks Fan – totallly agree, dumb conversation, its loser speak. We, as yankee fans, are winners.
Erin
October 30th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Erica-sounds great. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is one of my favorites. I love Simon and Garfunkel.
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Me too!!! Paul Simon performed solo first and did “Diamonds on the Soles of her Shoes, Me & Julio, Call Me Al, and Late in the Evening”.
The Crosby and Nash from CSN came out and joined him for “Here Comes the Sun”.
Then out came Art Garfunkel
btw- my book arrived. Haven’t had a chance to really examine look yet, but it looks amazing.
Hasn’t Hamels averaged 5 innings a start so far in this postseason? He is not the same pitcher that he was last year. Even if the Yankees don’t destroy him he won’t last long in the game. Even the Dodgers got to him.
“The presssure is on the Yankees” theme has gotten so old.
Whether the Yanks are 2 up, even or 2 down, the message never changes.
“Team X” can play loose because the pressure is on the Yankees.
Erica,
It sounds like a great concert. How long did Springsteen play for?
Was Pete there?
Erica-that concert sounds amazing. I am so jealous!!
Glad the book came. I haven’t gotten a chance to get really into mine either-I’m hoping to tonight since there’s no baseball. Between that and catching up on all of my TV I’m in for a busy night. LOL
“Can we stop mentioning that Cliff Lee might have had pine tar on his hat? We are Yankee fans, we do not need to make excuses for a loss. Cliff Lee dominated us plain and simple. We are not like Angels fans who thought Mo was throwing spit balls.”
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Not to mention that Pedro said he was pitching with a cold, continuously blowing into his pitching hand before gripping the ball with the intention of spraying germs on the Yankee batters!!!!!!
“CC in game 7 vs Hamels is money in the bank”
Nonsense.
It’s a favorable matchup for us, but nothing more.
I’m sorry but if MLB is going to look at what Mo did then MLB should check out Lee.
Blanton to pitch game 4
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....go_to.html
Not to mention that Pedro said he was pitching with a cold, continuously blowing into his pitching hand before gripping the ball with the intention of spraying germs on the Yankee batters!!!!!!
Wouldn’t he be infecting his catcher and any fielders who caught the ball?
Guess whooooo?
“Yeah, we can hit Rivera. We can hit any closer. We’ve proved that. He’s good. He’s one of the best if not the best, but I’ve seen our team handle good pitching. We’re definitely capable of scoring runs late in the game.”
Erica, what concert was this? It sounds like something really special!
Boatz n Hose
October 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Erica,
It sounds like a great concert. How long did Springsteen play for?
Was Pete there?
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Haha. No Pete sighting. From the criticisms I have read, it sounds like he was at Yankee Stadium
Springsteen came on around 11:35. (Keep in mind this show started at 7:30 exactly). He brought out Billy Joel (his last guest) just before 1am. I honestly couldn’t tell you how long he played for. It killed me to do this, but I had to run for a train at 1:20 when Bruce and Billy were doing “Born to Run” together. I think I only missed two other songs. I really had to catch a 1:37 train home or I would have been stuck at Penn until 3 and I was losing my ability to see straight. My guess is the show ended around 1:35.
Ed H.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Erica, what concert was this? It sounds like something really special!
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It was the 25th Anniversary Concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am so glad I went. It was really a once in a lifetime concert.
Part 2 is tonight, but I am not going to that cause I wasn’t as into the people performing and the tickets were kind of pricey.
Its going to be an HBO special at the end of Novermber.
Kenny Rogers had some substance in 2006 and now Lee against the yankees in the World Series.
I’m not saying that Lee is not a good pitcher because he is but his pitches had a lot of movement and bite that I’ve never seen from him before. I would not be surprised because a lot of these players will do anything to get ahead.
pat
Let me guess… That idiot Rollins ?
At least this time with Lee, we will have another crack at him, and we’ll see if Girardi asks the umps to check on him.
Against Rogers we were beaten and out of the playoffs before you could blink.
Our bullpen is much better than Philly’s. That is why I favor starting CC, AJ, Andy and CC (again) on short rest for the remainder of the series. If any starter tires out early, our bullpen is much more suited to close out a game than the Philly’s pen.
Regardless of Game 3′s outcome, Joe needs to go all out and start our best starting pitchers on short rest, mindful that our bullpen isn’t as much of a weakness to our team as the Phillie’s pen.
I think it’s highly likely that CC will be just fine on 3 days rest in 2 more starts. He did great against LAA. Burnett’s numbers on short rest are strong as well, not to mention the fact that he will be facing the pitcher instead of a DH in Game 5. That will give him extra outs.
The only pitcher I’d worry about on short rest is Pettitte but that would be Game 6, Yankees Stadium. He is looking fierce out there right now, regardless of what his veteran body might be telling him.
This is the predicted weather at game time Saturday night.
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....begDay=304
Also I heard on radio that Matsui is working out in the outfield and “might” be used in Philly. I find this doubtful.
I definitely do not favor Pettitte starting on 3 days rest, and do not like Mo pitching 2 innings, as he was exposed and could have been scored upon, like he was against the Angels. Our bullpen needs to shape up now!!
Erica was out having fun last night while Angel and I had to do all the hard work!
Writing letters, taking showers, defending Johnny Damon – I know I was bushed.
Erica – always OPPC
October 30th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Ed H.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Erica, what concert was this? It sounds like something really special!
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It was the 25th Anniversary Concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am so glad I went. It was really a once in a lifetime concert.
Part 2 is tonight, but I am not going to that cause I wasn’t as into the people performing and the tickets were kind of pricey.
Its going to be an HBO special at the end of Novermber.
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Wow. I’d have loved to have been there. I took my daughter to see Simon & Garfunkle in DC a few years ago and it may have been the best concert I’ve ever been to. I’m going to try to find more info about last night online. Thanks!
CLIFF LEE WENT TO NEBRASKA TO GET SOME PINE TAR.
Jeremy
Of course.
Erica -
Sounds wonderful – I’m so jealous! I am going to look forward to the HBO Special, although nothing like actually being there.
We’re big CSN fans, as well as Joel and Springsteen. In fact, “back in the day” (late 70s early 80s) there was a back and forth about who was better, Bruce or Billy? For me, it’s apples and oranges and I had no conflict whatsoever!
Was this the same concert Pat M was going to, too?
“If we are down in the series going into the game Gaudin would start, the high variance strategy may be the best strategy. If the Yanks are up in the series, the high variance strategy may be the worst strategy.”
wave your hat-
i can see that. makes sense
KF-
That was meant to be a joke.
Pedro in his post game interview, lives in NY, and pretty much intimated that he would relish pitching for the Yankees.
Was he that good last night,varying his speed and location, or did our inconsistant offense make him look great??
Ed H-
USA Today had a great article
http://www.usatoday.com/life/m.....htm?csp=34
Can CC throw right-handed?
Might be worth investigating before giving Chad Gaudin a start.
DT-
I took a quick scroll thru the game thread when I got home last night when I was too overtired to sleep.
You and Angel did a great job filling in for me. I know my job is tougher than it looks. I liked your letters to the team. (The sentance I always use is “Thank you in advance for your cooperation”). But I saw they worked for you anyway
Oh, and KF doesn’t know it yet but he is in big trouble. I saw what he was saying about MPB Johnny Damon when he thought I wouldn’t see it
One of the problems with going with a 3 man rotation is that the bullpen isn’t pitching well. If Hughes was going as well as he was in the regular season, you could say the starter only needs to go 5+ innings and then you have Hughes and Mo to close it out. Right now, if a starter gets knocked out early, you can’t trust the bullpen to hold them. Marte of all people has been the best middle reliever the Yankees have right now.
LOL – poor Chad.
No love from Nick.
Doreen
October 30th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Erica -
Sounds wonderful – I’m so jealous! I am going to look forward to the HBO Special, although nothing like actually being there.
We’re big CSN fans, as well as Joel and Springsteen. In fact, “back in the day” (late 70s early 80s) there was a back and forth about who was better, Bruce or Billy? For me, it’s apples and oranges and I had no conflict whatsoever!
Was this the same concert Pat M was going to, too?
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Yup. Pat M was there somewhere. I hope he loved it too!
It was funny, Bruce started giving this speech about bridging New Jersey and Long Island together. I was so tired I asked my sister if he wrote a new song about Long Island. LOL. When all of a sudden Billy was on stage and that made much more sense. It was almost 1am so cut me some slack.
But yes, they really are completely different
Nick in SF in Elk Grove
October 30th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Can CC throw right-handed?
Might be worth investigating before giving Chad Gaudin a start.
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Did Chad Gaudin kill your puppy???? Whats with the dislike?
Erica-
Read the USA Today article. What a great collection of some of the best musical talent in one show. No wonder many of the legend field seats were empty last night!!!!
What was the price range of the tickets?
Some d0uche called into Francesa and just said Pedro was a virtuoso last night.
Was he that good last night,varying his speed and location, or did our inconsistant offense make him look great??
I think he did pitch pretty well varying his pitches and location but the inconsistency of several players didn’t help. The offense has had a few of these inconsistent streaks this year and usually they break out in a big way.
“One of the problems with going with a 3 man rotation is that the bullpen isn’t pitching well. If Hughes was going as well as he was in the regular season, you could say the starter only needs to go 5+ innings and then you have Hughes and Mo to close it out. Right now, if a starter gets knocked out early, you can’t trust the bullpen to hold them. Marte of all people has been the best middle reliever the Yankees have right now.”
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Yes, and Marte is only called upon to pitch to 1 or 2 batters.
Erica –
re: Damon
As your Game 2 proxy I told peeps not to mess with my PBF.
I got some strange looks I think. Even the trolls backed away from me….
Yankee Trader
October 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Erica-
Read the USA Today article. What a great collection of some of the best musical talent in one show. No wonder many of the legend field seats were empty last night!!!!
What was the price range of the tickets?
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My seats which were at a small angle from the stage and pretty much as high up as you can get (Section 423) were face value $156. I think face of floor seats were in the thousands. I checked stubhub this week for prices. I could have easily sold those seats for double the price. But I would never
When they were setting up the stage for Bruce, they announced the Yankees won to loud cheers
Erica,
What did I write that you had a beef with?
27 hours and 26 minutes until game 3!!!!!!!!!
No dislike and I would LOVE for Chad Gaudin to win a World Series ring with the Yankees.
Having seen him stink it up as an Oakland Athletic and a San Diego Padre in recent years, I don’t whole-heartedly trust him to make a World Series start for our New York Baseball Yankees.
But whatever Mr. Girardi decides is going to be a gamble.
As Pat M has said more than once, this is where the danger from losing Chien-ming Wang (and Joba’s failure to look even halfway dependable as a starter at the end of the season) manifests itself.
Hughes isn’t pitching well but Robertson, Marte, Mo and Joba are pitching great. And Hughes has plenty left in the tank. He might not be zoned in like he was in the regular season but he’s rested, strong and able. He just needs to execute.
Using a 3 man-rotation really requires that CC and AJ continue to pitch the way they have this postseason. And I trust that Andy will dig deep if called upon to pitch on short rest in Game 6 in front of the home crowd.
If you look at Hamels’ peripheral stats, he’s exactly the same pitcher he was last year. THe only difference is that, in 2008, he was a bit lucky with BABIP, while this year he was a bit unlucky. Granted, he hasn’t pitched well so far in the playoffs, but that could change quickly.
Erin
October 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
pat
October 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Yanks Acela to Phila
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..adelp.html
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Love Damon’s shirt
not a dog in the bunch
KF
October 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Erica,
What did I write that you had a beef with?
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Not to bring back Johnny next year!!!!!!!!! LOL
Its okay, I am only teasing you
DT – OPPC member
October 30th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Erica –
re: Damon
As your Game 2 proxy I told peeps not to mess with my PBF.
I got some strange looks I think. Even the trolls backed away from me….
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I saw that. LOL. I actually did laugh out loud.
It was a noble effort. I noticed people didn’t bash him as much so they were obviously scared
Jeremy, I’ve seen this accusation about Lee using pine tar a couple of times now. Where is there anything, pictures or video, that will show this?
MLB investigated using video of the accusation against Mo for spitting on the ball. Seems to me that if Lee was using a foreign substance this would be news that wouldn’t get ignored. If it is true, Lee could face being suspended. Rogers, had he been caught and challenged on it would have been suspended for it and tossed from the game.
Missing Wang really hurts Nick in SF. Exactly right.
Erica,
I’d like to see him back on an incentive based contract for 1-2 years, but his current production isn’t helping his cause. I think he needs a pep talk.
BD – yes, I read rob neyer, who also copied those sentiments about Hamels from a 3rd party, as well.
Well, it looks like one of Charlie and Joe is NOT looking to get their ace into 3 games.
I will have to concede that Joe will probably go with 3 pitchers. He’s the type to go with those that got him there.
If he’s looking to get CC for Games 1, 4, and potentially 7, then it could be:
4-CC
5-AJ
6-Andy
7-CC
or, if he prefers to throw AJ at NYS he could go:
4-CC
5-Gaudin
6-AJ
7-CC
I think he chooses option 1. If we’re up, AJ goes for the kill. Or it gives him the chance to use Big-Game Andy twice and avoid Gaudin all together.
“Missing Wang really hurts Nick in SF. Exactly right.”
What an interesting sentence.
Bret, I think you missed a comma in your reply.
KF
October 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Erica,
I’d like to see him back on an incentive based contract for 1-2 years, but his current production isn’t helping his cause. I think he needs a pep talk.
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I agree about short term incentive contract.
You advice is duly noted. I will have one of my famous pretend discussions with him
Rain in Philly for tomorrow. If its rained out, then it sets up Lee for game 4 anyway.
“Missing Wang really hurts Nick in SF”
There’s a joke in there somewhere.
Bret the Hitman
October 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Missing Wang really hurts Nick in SF. Exactly right.
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Best comment ever. LOL
“As Pat M has said more than once, this is where the danger from losing Chien-ming Wang (and Joba’s failure to look even halfway dependable as a starter at the end of the season) manifests itself.”
nick in sf-
yeah i agree.
that’s why i was saying this year’s team is a starter world series team and that they’ll get better.
who would have thought they’d make it to the world series with three good starters and reallt no 4th or fifth that’s stretched out.
i expect next year the yankees will have a decent fourth starter who’s stretched out, probably joba.
Cole Hamels: “If I don’t win tomorrow, there will be no game 7″
Do not worry about a rainout tomorrow. Not gonna happen.
ah jocularity jocularity
Father Mulcahey
i thought they would have worked out at the Stadium today and taken the train down tomorrow morning. could have got a good night sleep in their own beds.
Some of the Yankees just missed pitches from the POS Pedro last night. When they foul a ball nearly straight back its just a little off. There were a number of them. Alex had a couple of them in his at bats.
I think Alex will be hitting soon. He didn’t look like he was pressing, he did get fooled on a few pitches though.
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Love Damon’s shirt
not a dog in the bunch
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Erica,
I met him in during spring training, he seemed like a pretty competitive yet nice guy. I would suggest a pep talk as to scolding as he could be sensitive.
It would be nice to have Wang stretched out for this series.
Aldo October 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Cole Hamels: “If I don’t win tomorrow, there will be no game 7?
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Sounds like he is putting a ton of pressure on himself. Being that this isn’t even game day, talking and thinking like this is not a plus for him.
I hope Nick isn’t related to John Bobbitt.
“Hughes isn’t pitching well but Robertson, Marte, Mo and Joba are pitching great.”
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Bret-
Robertson has gotten himself into and out of trouble and has allowed inherited runners to score. Joba has had only one pitch going for him, which the hitters are sitting on, and I can’t remember the last time , in relief, where either of these two have come in to get a quick 1-2-3 inning. Marte only called upon to get 1 or 2 lefties out.
Do you really feel that confident with a one run lead that those three will do the job?
Kind of a fatalistic thing for Hamels to say, but maybe talking that way helps him.
Hopefully he’s right.
new thread
“I hope Nick isn’t related to John Bobbitt”
I was thinking Jake Barnes.
“I hope Nick isn’t related to John Bobbitt”
I was thinking Jake Barnes.
“The Sun Also Rises” always makes me think of Joba.
At the end of the day the sun will still come up…..