A.J. bombs, Yanks fall as Series heads back to NY
A.J. Burnett couldn’t get out of the second inning and the Yankees – despite a valiant attempt – couldn’t come all the way back, losing to the Phillies, 8-6, in Game 5. Back with more from the clubhouse later.
UPDATE, 12:08 a.m.: We’re on a real tight deadline but I wanted to give you a taste of how A.J. Burnett was in the clubhouse. In short: He was crushed. “I feel like I let 25 guys down,” he said. “I just couldn’t get it to go where I wanted it to go. … I had a chance to do something special in here tonight and I let all the guys down. I let the city down.”
Burnett audio coming in a moment.
UPDATE, 12:17 a.m.: OK, here’s the audio from Burnett. It’s not the best because it was absolutely packed in the clubhouse but hopefully you can hear it.
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And here’s Girardi’s post-game press conference. As you can hear, he said that if Pettitte feels good tomorrow, he will be the Yankees Game 6 starter.
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UPDATE, 12:46 a.m.: Both Girardi and Burnett said the bad start was no the result of Burnett pitching on three days rest. Girardi said Burnett’s struggles will have no impact on his decision to start Pettitte in Game 6.
“I don’t see nothing different,” Jose Molina said. “They were just hitting.”





Look at the smile on this pervert Ken Rosenthal’s face
I am letting everyone know this. KEN ROSENTHAL and Mark Grace are PERVERTS
we will win it at home…
These pieces of garbage.
He had his call ready to go. Joe POS Buck “Back to the Bronx”
Just like he had it in 2004. “We’ll see you later tonight.”
My guess is that Girardi will have a very short leash with Andy and will have Gaudin ready to back him up. We have to win on Wednesday. Game 7s are too dangerous.
You cant predict baseball as a wise announcer once said.
Who knew Lee wouldn’t have his A game and still get the win. I cant say we should be shocked about the bad AJ showing up though. Coke didnt help either.
moral victory.
of course it would have helped if our crap ass bullpen could keep the phillies from homering -
3rd inning ?
can we drop tex to 6th in the order like torre did arod? i mean, anything else would not keep this upcoming choke the same as 2004. so we need tex dropped to 6th to keep the choke tradition/curse alive
as Tim mccarver pointed out, why wasn’t pena running for matsui?
3-0 in non Cliff Lee starts
0-2 in Cliff Lee starts
It is good to be going home winning 2 of 3 in Philly, we all would have signed for this.
We win an ALCS and he did not make a comment at all. It was silence. These pervert scumsacks FOX. Mark Grace still excited about his hit off Mo. If I ever see Mark Grace, I’ll shove something sharp between his eyes and say “YOu gotta hit of Mo, but I gotta hit right between your eyes.”
Drat. That was a winnable game.
aj personal catcher can’t pitch on theroad poos……….
jeter hitting into a dp, terrible.
tex swinging at a chnge in the dirt atrocious……….
tex and cano killing them… cano is jsut a rock head…
AJ stunk it up…
But we would have tied it if not for Coke’s two HR’s!
Give Burnett a break. You people are incredible.
don’t be a sore loser. your karma could carry over and hurt us.
The yankees swings against Lee were much better tonight. I would expect the same thing to happen in game 6 against Pedro. And Matsui is on fire thank god we are getting the dh back.
Cano has been stinking up the place, but what Tex is doing is worse. Tex is one of our core players. Those are the guys you need to carry the weight. Anything you get from Cano, Swisher, etc is gray. You have no chance to win if the core isn’t producing and neither is the gray save for two guys.
2/3 in Philly. After the split in Games 1 and 2 EVERYONE would have signed up for this.
Jeter hits into DP’s 99.9% of the time in those spots. I don’t know why I didn’t expect it in that spot. Tex is killing them. He is basically useless swinging at anything in sight and batting 3rd. He should of been 3-0 in the count and then Arod could of gotten a chance.
coke, AJ, worthless. Tex can’t find the ball with a f’in magnifying glass and tennis racquet. Just a putrid pitching game.
At least we made them earn it and not let them coast into G6. I just wish our offense would score six in the first 3 frames next game and force the phils to press…
44 hours and 27 minutes until Game 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CR9 is Jim Pir-one, correct?
Hey phils guess what, Angels did the same thing a week and a half ago, look where they are now.
Am I wrong or could Burnett not get out of the 3rd inning?
I was hoping for a really epic victory.
Alas, it was not to be. We’ll have to wait till Wednesday to be satisfied.
“Drat. That was a winnable game.”
Be honest, part of you is giddy right now, as much as we wanted that gm. they’re coming back to NY.
We’ll be waiting.
I hate these FOX people. These Umpires.
WE HAVE TO WIN IT ON WEDNESDAY, for my sanity.
on the bright side- we’ve scored 21 runs in 3 games now– a heating up offense is waiting for pedro
“as Tim mccarver pointed out, why wasn’t pena running for matsui?”
Does he run into DPs better than Matsui?
Girardi fell asleep on pinch running for Matsui. You have to run for him and try and steal a base there. That was a joke.
BLESSED ARE THE FLEXIBLE FOR THEY SHALL NOT BE BENT OUT OF SHAPE!
We’re meant to win this in the new Stadium. Losses happen. It’s not the end of the world.
I know this one hurts, but it was very important to grab the momentum back from the Phillies going back to NY and that is exactly what the Yankees did tonight. How similar was this game to the game 5 in Anaheim? That one hurt too but there is no confidence in that Phillies locker room tonight, just relief that they got away with one and escaped to live another day.
Got to love the fight shown by the boys tonight, but boy is Tex really struggling. I thought that double might get him going too. Hopefully Andy can close it out in Game 6.
If the baseball gods feel it’s more apropos for the Yankees to win it all in their new stadium, so be it. I can live with it; that’s the best way to celebrate.
Other than that, I just won’t pay much mind about all the second guessing with Girardi’s moves tonight, namely having A.J. start and Coke “relieve.”
More fun to win at home. Go Yankees!
“Jeter hits into DP’s 99.9% of the time in those spots. I don’t know why I didn’t expect it in that spot”
wow. I didn’t know that. you have a link for that great stat?
repost…
Vader
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
When did it become common place for the media to show such a bias…I mean Grace why don’t you just wear a Phillies hat?
Nice try Yankees.
Fans of 30 other teams are twiddling their thumbs right now. Count your blessings Yankee fans.
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We’re going home, with the lead in the series. We have big game hunter Andy on the mound and the ghost’s of series past in our corner to celebrate the new Stadium in style.
100 pitches of fun…
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Jeter hits into DP’s 99.9% of the time in those spots. I don’t know why I didn’t expect it in that spot. Tex is killing them. He is basically useless swinging at anything in sight and batting 3rd. He should of been 3-0 in the count and then Arod could of gotten a chance.
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Yeah Teixeira has been bad. The guy is known for having a good eye and having a great on base percentage. But in the postseason he is swinging like crazy on balls in the dirt.
These guys are sitting around, waiting for Alex to save the day again.
An annoying loss, but the offense battled back all night. This Phillies bullpen is still as leaky as ever. Hopefully we whack around Pedro and close this out in Game 6.
Time to face the fact that Tex is in April form…when he slumps he slumps for a month at a time. Don’t expect anything from him other than stellar defense in the last game(s) of this WS. Guess it’s up to Jeter, Damon, ARod and maybe Jorge and Matsui to carry us now.
“100 pitches of fun… November 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Jeter hits into DP’s 99.9% of the time in those spots. I don’t know why I didn’t expect it in that spot. Tex is killing them. He is basically useless swinging at anything in sight and batting 3rd. He should of been 3-0 in the count and then Arod could of gotten a chance.”
That’s why I try to jinx, still he hit into DP.
swear to God, I knew this was coming
Just had to release my anger. We’ll get ‘em on Wednesday.
wed..wont come soon enough..Hope Andy will be ok….Hope yanks really hit pedro hard ..we dont wanna go to game 7
“Be honest, part of you is giddy right now, as much as we wanted that gm. they’re coming back to NY.”
I’d be lying to say I disagree!
Tex and Cano have been a disgrace….This series should be over already
Is Girardi a moron? They just asked him who is starting game 6 and he said I will ask Andy how he feels and we will see? Ummm who else is going to pitch Joe? It’s not like they have someone else waiting in the wings. Stupid answers to simple questions…
Can Joe and Tim sit any closer together?
And they keep giving each other a very uncomfortable look.
I think they might share the same hotel key.
No reason for panic yet.
Yanks didn’t go down quietly, I like to see that.
Why is Lee the player of the game??? 5 runs in 7 innings ain’t respectable…
Coke is the only lefty specialist who doesn’t actually get lefties out. Go figure!
if we blow this series…. it will be worse than 04 and 01 combined.
Why couldn’t Pena PR?
“part of you is giddy right now”
No.
Coudln’t make it out of the third….
Plus beating Pedro in a WS clincher? As Mastercard would say “Priceless”
If you had told me that after 5 games our bullpen with the exception of Mo would
have imploded, that Tex and Cano would be hitting .100, that CC wasn’t lights out
in either start, and that AJ was gone in 2 innings of his second start, I would have
told you we would have either lost the Series already or at best be 2-3…Instead,
we’re up 3-2. That’s the bright side.
The bad part is that we could have won this game with a couple more timely hits
or Coke not giving up two bombs…
We will win it on Wednesday. For sure.
“Why is Lee the player of the game??? 5 runs in 7 innings ain’t respectable…”
He won two games in the series and would be the MVP if PHI wins, which they won’t.
Laura, well said, especially Tex.
but I don’t think they dare to drop Tex. Phillies throw soft pitches to Tex ALL series long, someone gonna remind Tex how to take and hit those SOFT pitches. OMG. Our No.3 batter is totally lost now.
Im avoiding the media until game 6, Im not a person that deals well with negativity. Even though we lost I still have a smile on my face, game six, with our A-line up, Pedro who we saw his act already, and with that Phillies Bullpen, and Mo being able to go 2 innings. Bring it on Phillies!!!!!!
andthe reason we should give aj a break is???????
he has cool tatoos….
he throws a cool whip cream pie!!!!!!!!!
how about he deserves non.. he melted like a ice sculpture in the phoenix desert in the summer. he came up kevin brown game 7 small.. he did not even give them 3 innigns………
the guy is a suppose ace and could not go 5 innings……..
aj uscked, he is widly inconsistent, cannot deal with baserunners, and is a cement head……
AJ SUCKED
At Least we get Matsui’s bat back in the Lineup
Arod should bat 3rd, with Matsui 4th ,Tex 5th
Mike, dont be a girl.
“We’re going home, with the lead in the series. We have big game hunter Andy on the mound and the ghost’s of series past in our corner to celebrate the new Stadium in style.”
KF – I absolutely agree. I truly believe that it is meant for the Yankees to win #27 in the new Stadium. Things happen for a reason.
yanks will win it where it’s supposed to be won; in the bronx.
In fairness to Tex. The first pitch was almost a foot outside. 1-0 is so much different than 0-1. But the ump had been giving that pitch to the Phils all freaking game.
Oh well, we win it at home in 6.
How can Lee be MVP if he’s on the losing team?
the biggest goat of the game is aj for the garbage effort tonight,
and jeter for killing the rally with his trademark double plays.
gardner who i expected nothing from showed he still had his pop up stroke but atleast made a nice catch.
Tex really has to do something this series.
well we’ll get them on weds. pedro can’t have 2 in him.
The Phillies are done. The Yankees showed them that they will always fight no matter what. The Phillies don’t have Lee, and there bullpen is shot. The Yankees will win this in 6.
Anyone know what the Yankees win/loss record is for each day of the week?
“YOU DON’T PITCH COKE IN THE 8TH INNING” Nick Tortorra
For the Yankees to go into Philadelphia, against that team and take two out of three games is no minor accomplishment, and especially when you get no production from 3 spots in thelineup and very little from 5 spots. My preference was for NYY to close it out in 5 games, but, I’ll settle for only needing one of two in Yankee Stadium with a full lineup.
from now on, anyone in here mentions 2004 is ahole, seriously.
Is there any chance of rain on Wednesday?
I really hope the Yanks remind the pitchers that you are allowed to pitch to the outside part of the plate against Utley. I have had enough of grooving pitches to that greasy animal.
Pettitte wants to pull a Derek lowe in 04.
This loss falls on AJ/Coke…
But Cano was terrible. Again.
Tex was a non-factor. Again.
And Swisher is back to striking out every at-bat. Again.
Sure it’s great to be going home to win it, but these are epic EPIC fails that should be addressed…. and aren’t.
These things have been going on all effing postseason.
“Even if they lose, which they wont, they have battled really really hard!”
Yeah, sure, Tex really battled…really battled hard, lol.
I HATE TEX
And the Captain CHOKED.
BTW, Matsui should be moved up to third in the order and Tex has to go down.
Captain DP
Damon
Matsui
Arod
Posada
Tex
Swisher
Cano
Gardner
the only mistake girardi made was not pinch running pena for matsui….it did not matter but that was his only mistake..
michael kay with his 3 day rest BS is nonsense,,, yea chad gaudin over the big 3, that is laughable………………….
If Tex had gotten on…..would they have pitched to Alex?
It will be our pleasure to win the World Series against Pedro.
Annoying was seeing the pathetic job Teixeira did on that last at bat. Annoying was seeing the captain yet again show why he was moved to lead off, as he is king of the DP.
I hope Andy can pitch well enough. I also hope we will not see Coke any more this series.
AJ was terrible tonight, but at least he had Molina catching him so he was better than he would have been.
“andthe reason we should give aj a break is???????”
Because he went out and gave his best. That should always be enough if you are a fan of the team.
JMO
“At Least we get Matsui’s bat back in the Lineup
Arod should bat 3rd, with Matsui 4th ,Tex 5th”
Don’t mess w/ something that’s working.
“Jeter hits into DP’s 99.9% of the time in those spots. I don’t know why I didn’t expect it in that spot. ”
Yea, blame Jeter, one of the few Yankees that are getting hits.
How about AJ, Coke, Cano and Tex?
Even if Pedro pitched lights out, he’s done by 6, so then we crank their bullpen.
Have no worries everyone, fate has it they they will close at the Stadium on Wed.
Jeter hits the ball on the ground a lot. So he’s susceptible to DPs.
The exact opposite of Gardner.
Captain’s ten count twice
Madsen makes it maddening
Damon darts, Tex hexed
JZ
Sorry. Once upon a time, Joe Buck had his call ready with excitement and enthusiasm for when the Yankees lose. But this loser, if and when we win the World Series, his call will be “And the Yankees have won their 27th World Title” followed by complete silence and dejection.
Amen, JZ.
Some Positives: (trying to get into the OPPC)
1. There is no quit in these guys ever! I’m proud to be a yankee fan tonight.
2. 4 days ago, we would have all been happy coming back to new york just taking one from the phillies.
3. The Yankees are taking the show back HOME. This is all scripted. They want to celebrate in front of the fans.
4. Phil Hughes pitched well, Aceves too.
5. We now for sure know who we can and cant rely on, hope Girardi is paying attention!
You have to switch Teixeira and A-Rod in the lineup.
Teixeira is your 3rd hitter, behind your 2 table setters who are on fire. How many times have we seen it where Teixeira strands runners to end an inning and A-Rod doesn’t even get a chance?
Your best overall hitter bats 3rd, not the one who can barely hit the ball past shallow outfield and is hitting .100 in the series. A-Rod has been your best all postseason, you have to bat him behind the guys who are getting on base. It’s amazing how many runs they are scoring without Teixeira hitting, but they would be scoring a lot more if A-Rod were batting 3rd instead.
“Be honest, part of you is giddy right now, as much as we wanted that gm. they’re coming back to NY.”
I’d be lying to say I disagree!
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I wanted to close it out tonight but for various reasons we came up short. I had picked the Yanks with my heart in 5 but rationally for 6. So off to home we go.
Not seeing Coke again? All I can say is Thank God.
I agree DJ CHOKED tonight.
The Phillies just got a win and they had to press in order to get it. Lee can’t be used, Pedro doesn’t have extra rest anymore and he threw over 100 pitches last time out, and Hamels confidence is shot. The Phily bullpen is shot as well.
The Yankees will win this.
aj did not give his best. he melts at the first sign of trouble…
for a big shot $17 mill a yr stud pitcher that is not acceptable and he deserves the fans fury………..
The first pitch to Teix was a ball and the ump put him in the hole to start the count. Good comeback though they made the game interesting tying run at the plate after being down 8-2. Now they gotta get them in game 6. Go Yanks
If we don’t win this, (and I think at this point, that is a very viable, realistic outcome), you can blame Girardi.
Burnett, on the road, on short rest, was completely moronic. Absolutely, positively, 100% moronic. The Phillies have Pedro on full rest pitching against Andy on short rest now, and it didn’t have to be that way.
Andy is historically un-good on short rest. This is a huge problem, because if this Phillies team is given momentum, they aren’t going to let up. If you let them taste it, they’re going to thrive on that, and I don’t care how good CC is, he’s going to have a hard time with that. He struggled the other night, and on three days rest AGAIN may very well finally break.
It’s not going to be a popular opinion around these parts, and I don’t like thinking it, but I honestly think we lose it in 7 for an arguably even more embarrassing failure than 2004, and it will all be on Girardi, for this senseless, stupid 3 man rotation nonsense.
Beetle, who are you?
2004 is hanging over this series like a dark cloud. If any team is going to have an epic failure and not be able to close it out, it will be the New York Yankees.
hate they we gave phillies confidence tonight..hope yanks come out w/alot of energy wed..
stuart a
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
andthe reason we should give aj a break is???????
he has cool tatoos….
he throws a cool whip cream pie!!!!!!!!!
how about he deserves non.. he melted like a ice sculpture in the phoenix desert in the summer. he came up kevin brown game 7 small.. he did not even give them 3 innigns………
the guy is a suppose ace and could not go 5 innings……..
aj uscked, he is widly inconsistent, cannot deal with baserunners, and is a cement head……
AJ SUCKED
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I haven’t seen 5th grade insults like that since I was in….uhhh…the 5th grade. Such salty language, junior.
Andy has pitched the clinching games in the previous 2 series. Can he do it again?
damon and arod has carried this team.
the jeter love is over the top. the guy has 1 RBI…
tex is doing nothing at all.. yanks win weds.. this is over………………….
It was great to see the effort of coming back. Even better was the Yankees raising Lee’s ERA.
So another Who’s your Daddy slurp feast?
“But Cano was terrible. Again.
Tex was a non-factor. Again.
And Swisher is back to striking out every at-bat. Again.
Sure it’s great to be going home to win it, but these are epic EPIC fails that should be addressed…. and aren’t.”
And exactly how should these things be addressed? The way they were addressed with Arod after each EPIC fail of his in previous postseasons?
Sometimes players get into very bad spaces. You don’t wave a magic wand and have them respond. They’re human. As long as the others pick them up, the T-E-A-M is doing its job. Those same players you have singled out each did his part to get the Yankees to the postseason.
Because he went out and gave his best. That should always be enough if you are a fan of the team.
JMO
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Thats the best he can do tonight?
If Andy was on normal rest I would be very confident. But the fact that he is going on 3 days rest has to make you a little nervous.
The dj dp hurt because its not like he was protecting in an 0-2 or 1-2 count, count was 2-1. Never the less Wednesday night will be amazing, at least I can get away from baseball and follow the NJ governor race tomorrow.
1st 3 batters vs AJ= 3 runs
Not quite as bad as the 1st 4 vs LA but close.
Night Y’all…seriously don’t sweat it too much, the Phillies have done what they were supposed to do…win each game started by Cliff Lee.
World Series Game V
Girardi’s gambit Burnett,
Leeding to the Bronx
Disappointing game. We had our chance.
If AJ pitched halfway decent, maybe things would have been different. But I’m sure AJ pitching badly is somehow Posada’s fault somehow.
We’ll get them wed.
“I haven’t seen 5th grade insults like that since I was in….uhhh…the 5th grade. Such salty language, junior.”
A little over the top for a team that is up 3-2 in the world series, I would say!
Did some of those players steal his dog?
wow green beret that is harsh you hurt my feelings.
support personal catcher, medicore, overpaid burnett all you want… aj gaged big time.. he melted in anaheim and philly i wonder why???????????????
nah just me imagining a trend… my bad aj is a good investment… a #2 stud starter with the season on the line going 2 innings is acceptable…..
Andy is historically un-good on short rest.
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Yeah well AJ was historically good on short rest.
Pettitte will come up big.
DJ really choked in the 9th but I think the Yanks have a good day w Pedro
the jeter love is over the top. the guy has 1 RBI…
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he’s hitting over 400
Well that was another exciting game to watch especially in the later innings. The Yankee’s are a team to be reckoned with. You can never count them out because they can always come from behind and make things happened. I am still as positive as ever and from the beginning I always said Yankees in 6.
Stay positive and optimistic people…we are coming home to the Bronx!
If Torre was still managing would Tex be hitting in the 8 spot Wednesday night?
Damon has gotten on base a billion times in the last 2 games and Tex makes out behind him every single time. He seriously needs to wake up.
I have to like Andy going on the mound with a bad taste in his mouth…He wont pitch two bad games in a row and im sure as the day is long he’s got enough heart to gut one out.
Did someone really say that DJ choked? Choked? He hit into a DP and it happens. That’s not a choke. You really think he felt consumed by the pressure? Why do you even call yourself fans? I don’t get it.
Not for nothing…but you know who else SUCKED in WS (even though overall great in ALDS/CS)?
That’s right our own #51 Bernie Williams. So maybe ppl shouldn’t be so quick to write off some of our guys this year either.,..
Huh? Momentum shifts when you get a win? Then why did the Yankees win game 2?
Sometimes the things said after these games gets a little silly.
The Phillies can’t be feeling that great, given how much the Yankees came back tonight.
It would be really nice if Andy can pitch well enough to keep the Yankees in the game. That is all that is needed. Even better will be if Pedro looks like AJ did tonight. If he is out early the Phillies will be done.
I love Jeter but come on, you have to come through in that spot.
““andthe reason we should give aj a break is???????”
Because he went out and gave his best. That should always be enough if you are a fan of the team.
JMO”
That’s nonsense and you are an idiot who must not watch much Yankee baseball. AJ goes into meltdown mode at the drop of a baseball. As soon as he gave up that leadoff hit, you knew a crooked number would be posted in a few minutes. He’s gutless…a coward. Unless he is in a zone where he has pinpoint control and everything is going right, he’s useless. He deserves to be mocked and scorned for spitting the bit tonight. I hope he chokes on one of those pies.
jeter is hitting mid 300′s not over 400. and again he has 1 rbi.. i know to question the g-d is sacrilege but the fact is he has 1 rbi……..
he hit into a dp, when they had madson on the ropes..
CB
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Pepi,
His swing is longish to begin with. It’s very long right now and he’s just not adjusting to the barrage of off speed pitching he’s being fed.
He needs to shorten his swing and not try to dead pull pitch after pitch.
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Thanks, CB, I didn’t see this until AFTER I posted the above question. I hope Kevin Long can get with him, and help him straighten it out before Wednesday. This team needs him to snap out of it.
“Thats the best he can do tonight?”
That was obviously the best he could do TONIGHT. For whatever combination of reasons, he couldn’t do any better. It happens. I would seriously doubt it had anything to do with lack of effort or lack of desire.
I have never felt so confident after a loss. Philly is out of Cliff Lee’s. They were afraid to pitch their closer in their home park. Madson barely got the save himself. There is no way this sad excuse for a pitching staff holds the Yankees down for two games at Yankee Stadium. Yankees party on Wednesday.
Yes Cano and Tex have both been terrible, but at least you get the feeling that Tex is really trying. With Cano there seems to be no sense of urgency whatsoever. He’s totally lackadaisical with a ho-hum attitude. Tex just needs a 2-day break and some serious relaxation techniques.
this is defenately nerve wreckin hope yanks end wed..
***Get ready for Joe West folks. He will be behind the plate for Game 6. It’s going to be interesting. ***
For all the worrying about how Andy and CC are going to pitch on 3 days rest, at least our head case won’t start another game this season. Their headcase (Hamels) is in line to start Game 7.
Maybe tomorrow they can get Gardner into the cage, and not just to run sprints.
Matsui is going to be back
Johnny’s performance has been outstanding, especially that last at-bat under so much pressure. Love him.
“I have never felt so confident after a loss. Philly is out of Cliff Lee’s. They were afraid to pitch their closer in their home park. Madson barely got the save himself. There is no way this sad excuse for a pitching staff holds the Yankees down for two games at Yankee Stadium. Yankees party on Wednesday.”
Mike, I think a lot of us feel this way, even though some posters had of course hoped we would take it tonight.
I have always felt this series was meant to be won in NY. So I’m almost relieved its going back there.
pat
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 pm
If Tex had gotten on…..would they have pitched to Alex?
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Manual is the type of manager that would have walked the tying run into scoring position and gone up against the cold bat and taken his chances. NY was playing with about 5 bats and a bad start. Coke gave up the two homers, but, people forget that he’s still a rookie. The only real second guess was maybe bringing in Marte instead, but, they were down by 4 runs, so, that made little sense.
“hate they we gave phillies confidence tonight..hope yanks come out w/alot of energy wed..”
Last I check it was the Phillies that looked like they were biting nails there, not saying they didn’t gain confidence, but I doubt they wanted to see Al in the 9th there up by 2.
You guys are funny. Burnett is lights out in Game 2 and then Game 5 he has trouble and you guys are ready to crucify him. You always look for someone to blame. Past year’s it was A-Rod, this year it’s Tex, Cano and Burnett.
jeter has one rbi, because he is hitting behind, cano, melky and a pitcher.
Jeter doesnt choke, he is a big game player. He just hit into a DP, thats not a choke thats more like his regular season M.O.
What bugged me about Jeter’s DP is the pitch before that one was a better pitch to swing at. His hitting into the DP killed the rally they had building, but it does happen.
Jeter has been playing well this post season. I am more annoyed at Teixeira and Cano.
Don’t forget Matsui and Posada are back in the lineup from here on out.
BigSix
they do share the same hotel room. I’m in the next room, and I heard moaning last night to the effect of “Yankees going down, ooooooooh yea, yankeees stink…ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yaaa”
Yankees will win it. Phillies are not going to win 3 straight.
Phillies bullpen is not that good. Big edge to Mo.
Phillie starters will not be able to go deep in games.
Pettitte has a chance to clinch the WS for the Yanks after clinching the division, ALDS, and ALCS.
Pretty cool.
“Did someone really say that DJ choked? Choked? He hit into a DP and it happens. That’s not a choke. You really think he felt consumed by the pressure? Why do you even call yourself fans? I don’t get it.”
Absolutely, it was a choke. He had a fat fastball right down the pipe and took a tentative, scared swing. I know most fans were sitting there thinking, “please dont hit into a double play.” So, of course, that’s exactly what the Captain did.
I agree DJ wasted a golden opp.
But I don’t think Philles gained much confidence from this game. Their ace is so-so, their pen STILL sucks.
I think Yanks can take care of business on Wed.
“jeter is hitting mid 300’s not over 400. and again he has 1 rbi.. i know to question the g-d is sacrilege but the fact is he has 1 rbi……..”
Who’s getting on base before him, genius. Go to bed.
“Andy is historically un-good on short rest.”
So he’s due.
Country Cow Turd Joe West behind home plate. If that guy starts cheating us on his east west strike zone, I might end up with a broken tv and much more. I despise CCT Joe West.
Utley could be the MVP playing for the losing team. Just like Bobby Richardson
burnett is the #2 starter in the playoffs he has spit the bit twice….
2 very good outings and 2 horrible outings that is not a #2 starter…
that is why i am upset at aj…he did not do his job.. again he does this on the road all the time, and has his own personal catcher……
he is a head case…
No more Jose Molina and no more pitchers batting, that is always a good thing. Also nice job by Matsui in Philly with 2 pinch hits, just a professional hitter.
can we shut up about buck and mccarver being biased? yeah, mccarver’s an idiot, but red sox fans think they’re biased towards the yankees. bias is where you look for it. no matter what. if you want it, you’ll find it.
That’s nonsense and you are an idiot who must not watch much Yankee baseball. AJ goes into meltdown mode at the drop of a baseball. As soon as he gave up that leadoff hit, you knew a crooked number would be posted in a few minutes. He’s gutless…a coward.
What if Andy does the same thing on 3 nights rest, is he a gutless coward. You call yourself a fan? Sounds more like a Philly fan’s response to me.
i think Aj just wasnt good tonight dont think it had anything to with shortrest
Hey look Al Leiter making all my points about 3 days rest and command
Nah that can’t be the case ask all the genius’ in here
trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS!
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
“I haven’t seen 5th grade insults like that since I was in….uhhh…the 5th grade. Such salty language, junior.”
A little over the top for a team that is up 3-2 in the world series, I would say!
Did some of those players steal his dog?
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I figured that somebody stole his trick-or-treat candy. Anybody know where Mussina is?
“You guys are funny. Burnett is lights out in Game 2 and then Game 5 he has trouble and you guys are ready to crucify him. You always look for someone to blame. Past year’s it was A-Rod, this year it’s Tex, Cano and Burnett.”
Give me a break. Burnett also choked vs Anaheim. Joe Blanton pitched with more guts than AJ.
I did not like these final 3 games all from guys on short rest. I told everyone today Joe should have used Gaudin, that you were wasting AJ, and that he should only be used on full rest in a Game 6 and whadda ya know, I was dead on!
I can only pray that this team bounces back and keeps the bats going.
Who’s your Daddy Part II. The stadium better bring on Wednesday.
I glad every one out there shows the optimism and don’t get me wrong I love this team, but I have a bad feeling that this thing is going 7 games.
And we all know what can happen in a Game 7, anything!
Jeez,
Phil Coke is salty!
yea MT those 2 runners on base in the 9th were a mrage.
jeter has to drive in some runs, that is the bottom line..
i know this makes me terrible to question jeter but he needs to drive in some runners..
I’d take Andy on three days rest at home in a possible clincher over AJ any day of the week.
AJ’s got great stuff, but you never know what you’re going to get.
Andy is a gamer who is the winningest PS pitcher ever for a reason. Remember when he pitched an inning or two a few years ago on no rest in the 18 inning Astros playoff game?
If he can’t pitch, he’ll tell Joe et al. Looks like these games are going to be won/lost with the BP.
Yankee BP–improving
Philly BP–declining
Let’s see on Wednesday.
GB
My guess is he would have been walked too but sometimes ego gets in the way of intelligence.
Coke is giving Kim Jones the death stare… not her fault you gave up 2 bombs…
Whatever happens we know Andy will give everything he has in that left arm of his. I have faith in Andy, 7 innings straight to Mo for 2, and I have a feeling the bats will explode.
“MT. says:
November 2, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Did someone really say that DJ choked? Choked? He hit into a DP and it happens. That’s not a choke. You really think he felt consumed by the pressure? Why do you even call yourself fans? I don’t get it.”
I love the Captain but he CHOKED…a K would have been better in that situation…AROD does the same thing and every media outlet in America would be killing him all day tommorow
lol at AJ getting snappy.
Lead off hitters generally don’t get a lot of RBI’s.
How many pitches did AJ throw tonight? It seem it was light enough that he could potentially come in for game 7 if needed, in relief.
An 8-6 game wasn’t the result we would want, but it is a better score than 8-2.
Ummm, Coke, you won’t get a ball again till the spring.
Derek Jeter has built up more than enough goodwill where we can forgive a rally killing double play. Besides, it wasn’t his fault that they were in that situation.
Despite all the panic about the 3-man rotation, we still have the pitching advantage in this series.
And with two days rest on top of the minimal amount of work he had this weekend, Rivera will be available for two innings on Wednesday.
Jeter is one of the guys that gets the job done, he doesnt one time and your jumping all over him. Its not a choke job, maybe Tex is choking right now, but not Jet. And even Tex has done some more good things, without him, we arent here.
Rose November 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Yankees will win it. Phillies are not going to win 3 straight.
Well lets hope not.
coke wants the ball tomorrow…It wont get it again hopefully this season
coke wants the ball yea sure. that will happen….
balls thrown down the middle leave the park except if tex or cano is up………
Coke and AJ both want the ball again.
They must be kidding.
Coke is hilarious!
He wants the ball …..TOMORROW!
Here you go Phil. Go crazy.
So after today’s performance people still think AJ was better off pitching in game 6. As a manager I want Andy pitching short rest or not in a game 6 rather than not pitching him at all and having Gauden pitch followed by box of chocolates Burnett. Also before dumping on AJ remember how huge he came up in game 2.
Coke said he wants the ball tomorrow. He can have it tomorrow but not on Wednesday. I hope we don’t see him again until spring training.
beetle
It was easy for Joe Blanton to give up ONLY 4 runs in 6 innings when he was getting handed cheap strike after strike. And possibly using a foreign substance.
Folks, seriously, I hope the Yanks win it all, but deep down I know they will blow it.
Comments here and there indicating something with Pettitte’s shoulder. CC has not looked confident in the WS and this is his 3rd start on short rest.
So upset with Girardi’s gamble, it was not necessary and he made all the wrong moves tonight. Honestly, I want him gone.
Yanks need to trade for Halladay without question. And sign Lackey. Once in a while, 3-days rest works. But as Qui Gon Jinn told Watto, “Whenever you gamble, my friend, eventually you’ll lose.”
jaybird
Does your “bad feeling” have any logic to back it up?
Enough already with the reverse negative stuff.
God I love Coke and Kennedy’s post interviews.
lol Coke says he “wants the ball again”. Thankfully he won’t get it.
Can someone explain to me how a guy like AJ can either be on or not? I don’t understand. I really don’t understand.
Good they battled back.
I don’t see “momentum” being an issue. There’s a day off, for one. For two, the Yankees did not lay down. For three, they’re going back to their home park.
Everything happens for a reason.
after the yankees blow this world series because of joe girardi’s retarded managing, the yankees should:
-bring back mattingly (who, now that i think about it, might have autism or down syndrome just like joe girardi)
-pay ANY team ANY sum of money to take phil coke off their hands, even if it handicaps us financially
-after that double play, they should force jeter into the dh role, trade joba, hughes, and anyone else who has so-called “potential” (but is too much a woman to have success under pressure) for hanley ramirez, and then not renew jeter’s contract
-cut their losses and release tex
YEAH BABY! PHILLIES IN 7!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody has any idea what kind of stuff Andy is going to have on 3 days rest. He is 37 years old, has been pitching on 5-6 days rest and has had shoulder problems and now they are asking him to go on 3. Is he going to have enough to get this good lineup out? This lineup is tough for Andy even with his good stuff. Andy on 3 days really scares me a lot.
Hey beetle – great analysis. you must have graduated top of your class in troll school.
The Future
You sound like a troll. Go hide under your Eagles Superbowl banner.
Wait–you mean you don’t have one?
“I haven’t seen 5th grade insults like that since I was in….uhhh…the 5th grade. Such salt language, junior.”
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LOL!! GB7, I love ya!
I am not the least bit worried about Wednesday. Why?
1) Andy Pettitte is a warrior, a big game pitcher. When you absolutely need a win, you call BIG GAME ANDY.
2) The Phillies have to be talking to themselves, “Wow, we had a six run lead, we had our ace on the mound, and those guys almost caught us.” That has to be in their heads.
3) We are the home team, which is huge considering the Yankees home record this year.
4) The DH re-enters the mix, and Matsu is getting a hot bat.
My only concern is Tex. I think we can win it with him going 0-4, but I would rather he contribute in some way.
As I predicted, Yankees in 6 –
So let it be done
So let it be written
“You guys are funny. Burnett is lights out in Game 2 and then Game 5 he has trouble and you guys are ready to crucify him. You always look for someone to blame. Past year’s it was A-Rod, this year it’s Tex, Cano and Burnett.”
I’m so with you. I am always bothered that people feel the need to find a goat, or to find someone to blame or to kick.
I’m happy we’re going back to the Bronx and I realize the Yankees tried, ALL OF THEM, but just fell short. So I have no bad feelings whatsoever, nothing but good feelings and happiness that #27 is on its way.
IT’S ALL GOOD.
i know the yanks will win on weds. but that does not change the fact that aj choked, coke stinks, cano is a meathead, and texiera is lost.
imagine if the einsteins here know he is swinging at offspeed pitches in the dirt he should figure it out!!!!!!!!11
Can we bat Tex, Cano, and Gardner 9th
PittsburghYankeeFan November 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
I’d take Andy on three days rest at home in a possible clincher over AJ any day of the week.
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Exactly. That is why Girardi pitched him today and not game 6.
Coke wants the ball again…
Okay, give him a golf ball and tell him to practice his swing.
Tex needs to leave his mark on this series Wednesday…And I know Andy will get it done…he has a lot of heart and can give his tam a chance to win when the stuff is not there unlike AJ
You guys are funny. Burnett is lights out in Game 2 and then Game 5 he has trouble and you guys are ready to crucify him. You always look for someone to blame. Past year’s it was A-Rod, this year it’s Tex, Cano and Burnett.
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He pitched like crap today. What do you expect people to do? Praise him? I like AJ, but it’s the same thing with him. No matter the catcher, we just don’t know which pitcher will show up. Good AJ or bad AJ. Today it was bad AJ. He deserves a good share of the blame.
“YEAH BABY! PHILLIES IN 7!!!!!!!!!!!”
Your last breath might come on Wedensday.
The scariest part about Coke’s post-game is that he thought he made a good pitch to Ibanez…. yikes…
1) Andy Pettitte is a warrior, a big game pitcher. When you absolutely need a win, you call BIG GAME ANDY.
Just like in the 2001 WS right he was amazing
PittsburghYankeefan
HAHAHA They have no SB banner because their QB came to the game sick and was too busy vomiting on the field.
44 hours and 1 minute until Game 6!!!!!
they should give the ball to Coke and Burnett in their workout tomorrow… have them throw BP to Gardner… throw those same pitches they threw to utley and get Brett used to swinging at meat.
“Andy is historically un-good on short rest.”
yea…uhhh no!…his era is like .2 worse on 3 days rest…not a big deal…you’d be better off saying its just been a while..
I don’t know why people are acting like AJ couldn’t do what he did on regular rest.
Amazed people still don’t understand not succeeding is not choking.
They battled from a 6 run deficit to get the winning run to the plate in the 9th inning of a WS clinching game.
They all battled just with varying degrees of success.
“You guys are funny. Burnett is lights out in Game 2 and then Game 5 he has trouble and you guys are ready to crucify him. You always look for someone to blame. Past year’s it was A-Rod, this year it’s Tex, Cano and Burnett.”
I’m so with you. I am always bothered that people feel the need to find a goat, or to find someone to blame or to kick.
I’m happy we’re going back to the Bronx and I realize the Yankees tried, ALL OF THEM, but just fell short. So I have no bad feelings whatsoever, nothing but good feelings and happiness that #27 is on its way.
IT’S ALL GOOD.
You’ve been doing that same basic post for as long as I can remember. I love the consistency
I am going to sleep this one off-
Good night Yankee people!
Tonight was house money so Im not TOO upset.
That being said, Coke should never be allowed the ball again, Texiera needs a talking to about his lack of – well- everything offense orientated, and AJ was just dreadful.
Is there any reason why we continue to pitch to Utley when Ryan Howard probably could not hit the ball with a tennis racquet?!?!
Andy will show up Weds, this offense has been up and we will win the championship in the Bronx while all the Suits and Women in Pearls cheer while the true fans get comfort in our heart via the television screen.
COke will be lucky to make the team out of spring training next year
“Coke and AJ both want the ball again.
They must be kidding.”
Mick, of course they want the ball again. Pitchers are competitors! It doesn’t mean they’ll get it again.
I’d rather have them react that way than to go and stick their heads in the sand.
Anyway, if anyone should be disappointed it should be me. I picked the Yanks to win in 5!
Anyone want to comment on how Jeter hit into a crushing dp.
Pettitte was tipping his pitches in G6 2001 WS. Probably not going to happen Wed night.
Bryan November 2nd, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Can we bat Tex, Cano, and Gardner 9th
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We could have Pettitte hit and have a DH for one of the above 3.
Doreen
He has such movement on his fastball and curve that when he locates it properly, it starts over the plate and moves off.
This means that you have to have the confidence to release it right over the plate.
That’s why his game is mental.
The minute he loses confidence that the ball will move off the plate on its own, he tries to hard to locate it. The ball then starts off the plate and continues off, resulting in a hit batter or a walk, or it starts off the plate and moves right back. Utley’s HR was a perfect example.
That’s why when he has a bad game, he says he has no idea where the ball is going.
Now Coke, that’s another problem…
I would feel a hell of a lot better if wednesday’s game is rained out.
“Coke and AJ both want the ball again.
They must be kidding.”
Would you rather Cole Hamels who wishes the season was over?
AJ really stunk it up tonight, but at the very least he’ll be available for relief if there’s a game 7. Hughes did surprisingly well, and Mariano is going to be rested in case he needs to go 6 outs in game 6. Not worried about Andy on 3 days rest, he’s done it before and he’s the winningest postseason pitcher going against a guy who’s past his prime, we’ll get this done no worries.
can we put in GTLU now?
Double Play Derek
Johnny “Erica’s Man” Damon
Alexander Rodriguez Hudson
Hideki “Godzilla” Matsui
Jorge ” Hip Hip” Posada
Mark “Whiffed Again” Teixeira
Nick “i’m pretty” Swisher
Robbie “Cold Cuts” Cano
Brett “Whats this bat for?” Gardner
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0
4
hopefully yanks hurt pedro
What I cannot believe about the Jeter DP is how easily they turned it. What happened to Chuck Knoblauch Chase Utley.
Erica – always OPPC says:
November 2, 2009 at 11:59 pm
44 hours and 1 minute until Game 6!!!!!
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Come on, Erica.
Limit it to one countdown per hour at least.
I heard the 2004 crap in the ALCS and look what happened. The Yankees beat the Angels in game 6. And the Angels had better pitching than the Phillies.
If you are comparing this to 2004 then you’re a idiot !
The Red Sox had a more dangerous lineup in 2004 with a really good starting rotation and bullpen.
Guranteed you will have people saying Gaudin should of pitched tonight.
Can they send Lee pitch game 6 since he mentions it’s up to Charlie? what a f??ker
Coke can have the ball tomorrow like he asked for in the work out. Then again in spring training. That was absolutely pathetic lefty on lefty.
I love all the ’04 comments.
Too bad the 2009 Yankees are already in the World Series, you morons.
If I’m Reggie Jackson I’m crossing Phil Coke off my Christmas card list.
Stultus-
I usually do, but I always do one last update before “good night Yankee people”
That was my last update before “good night”
So… get off my back please
And have a wonderful night
4 out of 5 of the HRs Utley has hit, are down the middle, it’s not that tough to figure it out, he’s the LH version of Jason Bay.
don’t feed the trolls.
Good night regulars.
Teixeira needs to start getting on base. Even if he just draws walks or singles. Stop trying to hit everything for a homerun.
Cano at bats looked a lot better tonight than they did yesterday. And Swish is lost again.
Gardner needs to be more aggresive I know Lee was a tough matchup for someone who basically had 5 at bats the last 3-4 weeks. But he is not swinging until he has two strikes on him and then he just takes a defensive swing. He is passing on too many fastballs right over the plate.
Who was the Yankees SP in Game 6 04? Was it Jon Lieber?
PittsburghYankeeFan -
So do the Yankees hire a sports psychologist for him? (I guess Molina was supposed to have the role). I’m only half kidding.
Coke is coming nowhere near a mound for the rest of this series.
He’s been giving up HR like that all season. Why expect anything different?
If Marte has it back for 2010, I wonder what is going to happen with him?
Tex is a bum, isn’t he?
We could have Pettitte hit and have a DH for one of the above 3.
I could be wrong on that. I think DH-ing for a position player is only allowed in amateur leagues.
I keep hoping that we will get to see a great offensive game from Teixeira.
Coke goat of the game. and frankly a net negative the whole season. he is a lefty specialist that gives up HOME RUNS to lefties. he deserves no ring if we win. he deserves no t shirt, not even a cap. he really is horrible..
2nd thought. whoever drew up the scouting report on utley should be hung in a public square. can anyone ever throw the guy a slider or offspead pitch or does every pitch need to be middle in the happy zone fastballs? utterly amazing to me.
Anyway, if anyone should be disappointed it should be me. I picked the Yanks to win in 5!
Ironic, you picked them to win in 5 and wanted them at home for the 6th.
I picked them at home for the 6th but wanted them to win in 5.
So long as they win everyone is happy. (except Philly fans)
pat
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
GB
My guess is he would have been walked too but sometimes ego gets in the way of intelligence.
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Manual hates being second guessed, but, in that town, just like Girardi in NY, it would be easier to deal with erring on the side of caution than taking a chance on Rodriguez knocking another one up the gap or over the wall. Right now, he’s as focused as he was during the first two rounds, and knocking him down hasn’t worked. Swisher is just lost, right now. The best you can hope for is a walk, and as much as I like Cano, he’s as cold as Swisher. Teixeira has had his post season moments, but, he looks like Alex Rodriguez of the 2005-2007 post season.
Beetle
Since you love the 2004 reference, I’ll assume you’re a Sox fan.
Did the fans do as many steroids and the Sox players did in 2004?
Stuart A.
When was the last time you had a positive thought? Are you a real Yankee fan. I read most of the posts and you are always Negative with a capital N. Get over your self!
I love how people compare everything to 2004. I can’t wait for the Yankees to win so we never have to hear about 2004 again.
Coke and AJ both want the ball again.
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Good. That’s what one would want to hear from them.
I’m glad to have the mystery that is AJ out of the series now.
No more personal catchers, no more good AJ or bad AJ talk.
I’d much rather have Pettitte on short rest for game 6 than wild, wild Burnett for game 6 on full rest.
AJ on 3 days rest or full rest, doesn’t matter. He will either pitch great or stink it up. That’s AJ.
“I love all the ‘04 comments.
Too bad the 2009 Yankees are already in the World Series, you morons.”
I really have a hard time believing that people have watched this team all season and are almost bed-ridden over this loss. Wow.
Can everyone ease up on the vitriol towards the players?
They could be logging on soon.
Teixeira just hit a slump, it happens to every player. Unfortunately it came at the worst possible time.
The Phillies have a player just like him… Howard.
G’nite Erica – Kudos to your PBF for a job well done!
The issue with Utley is why even pitch to him anymore? Why did they pitch to him at all in any game after game 1?
Let Ryan Howard, the new K king of WS history, try to beat you. I just don’t get it.
1. The Captain
2. Johny Rocket
3. Tex (Please Get some hits)
4. A-Rod the Great
5. Godzila
6. Jorge (is better than Molina) Posada
7. Robinson (where have you gone) Cano
8. Swish
9. Bret (Oh God why did Melky get hurt!?) Gardner
Simple question.
Who do you trust? Pedro or Andy?
100 pitches of fun…
November 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Coke said he wants the ball tomorrow.
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Sure, Phil, how does Sunday sound?
Can someone help relieve the tension and chest pressure I am feeling. I really do not want to go to a Game 7. Anything can happen in a Game 7. I dread Game 7.
So..Andy will grind it out like the veteran he is, and the Yanks will knock around Pedro early and often, having already seen him this series.
S.A.–Serenity Now says:
November 3, 2009 at 12:07 am
Coke and AJ both want the ball again.
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Good. That’s what one would want to hear from them.
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Exactly. Hamels doesn’t want the ball again and is hoping that they pitch Lee on short rest for game 7.
By the way, Coke can have the ball again. Winter ball is played all over the place.
For those that are yammering on about Pettitte on short rest in his career, perhaps you’d better look at his numbers with 15 short rest starts. They’re nearly identical to his career. What he’ll give you is everything he’s got, and, that ain’t bad. I’ll take him in a game 6 or game 7 start any day.
Teixeira has had his post season moments, but, he looks like Alex Rodriguez of the 2005-2007 post season.
On offense, but it’s partly his excellent defense as a resson that we are up 3-2.
Andy’s outing wasnt that bad, Werth was the only one who hit him real hard.
Al Leiter hasnt said a thing on MLBN…He doesnt want to call his colleagues idiots on the air.
They just showed the pitch that Tex swung at to end the game. I can’t believe that he would chase that pitch twice. It stinks but he is sooo lost right now. Of course he just mentioned the off days being tough, sorry Tex but you make millions adjust to the days off.
players seem pretty positive..other than aj and coke
Humbug. That baseball team was supposed to win the contest tonight. Lovey and I had plans on Wednesday to attend the most sublime gathering at Mayor Bloomberg’s mansion where he is serving a 300-year-old merlot in the hollowed out tusks of endangered Tunisian wild bores.
Instead, we are now being summoned again to our swanky Legends Seats in…oh, dear lord…the Bronx, where Chef Dan Pasqua is tempting us with an entree of Komodo Dragon tartar, followed by porpoise roasted in a white truffle oil and sage butter reduction. Will he never rest, that creative young turk? And lovey is being asked to brink her best and loudest jewelry to help get the crowd going. They are calling her the “Rally Money” and will feature her on the big television screen on the stadium when something good happens in the game to that team that plays in the blue striped uniforms.
Oh, goodness, I was hoping that the riff raff from that awful and smelly city of Philadelphia would not be coming back, but I suppose we will have to look at them again while we eat Chef Dan’s latest masterpiece.
Well, ta for now, chaps and ladies.
Their is a major difference when guys like Andy or CC say they want the ball over guys like Coke and AJ.
Haha, Cokey can have the ball.
How’s tomorrow for ya???
Double Play Derek
Johnny “Erica’s Man” Damon
Alexander Rodriguez Hudson
Hideki “Godzilla” Matsui
Jorge ” Hip Hip” Posada
Mark “Whiffed Again” Teixeira
Nick “i’m pretty” Swisher
Robbie “Cold Cuts” Cano
Brett “Whats this bat for?” Gardner
Trisha,
Did you have any luck in getting a ticket for game 6?
hopefully goin home will help tex..
first of all: for the next 2 games, phil coke should be forced to stand in the middle of the bullpen wearing a dunce cap from when the gates open and not leave until the last fan leaves the stadium, and they should not only allow it – but encourage the fans to throw things at him
and if the yankees win this series despite joe girardi’s mental retardation – when they’re celebrating – i pray that the yankees execs lead girardi into a secluded room, trick him into going inside, give him a coloring book, and lock him in there for the entire night, so that he can’t speak publicly or celebrate with the team
during the celebration, phil coke should be forced to sit in the corner, facing the wall, while the rest of the yankees throw champagne bottles at him as part of the celebratioin
during the yankees parade, phil coke should be forced to follow the yankees’ ride, attached to it by a leash, and fans should be given objects and rotten food to throw at him as he walks by
also during the parade, the yankees should trick girardi by telling him that he has been chosen to drive the yankees’ ride, put him on a chair in a dark room, and give him one of those racing video-games that simulate driving, so that we don’t have to see him or deal with his retarded answers
Didn’t we just live through this ten days ago? Have we not learned anything? Just because we lose game 5 and the series goes back to NY, just delays the inevitable. The Yankees will win this world series in 6 games. Most people picked it in 6 or 7 anyway so no need for anyone to be shocked.
Personally, I’m happy I get to see the 2009 NY Yankees play one more game with the full lineup. One more night of Andy Pettitte. Two more days of drama. I may have to pony up and buy tickets to the game.
Teix preeches amnesia, I got a feeling he’s going off on Wedensday.
If CC had won any of his starts the Series would’ve been clenched Sunday.
I hope Molina is gone after the series AJ has a crutch and he needs to get over this nonsense.
Coke is trade bait to me.The game would’ve been tied,if he didn’t serve up 2 HR.
Tex doesn’t perform in a non contract year.
Damon was suppose to be the worst batter against Lee,and he did better than most of the line up.
Tex seems to be in good spirits, thrilled that he got a hit off Lee… if only Tex could hit more consistently…
“Ironic, you picked them to win in 5 and wanted them at home for the 6th.
I picked them at home for the 6th but wanted them to win in 5.
So long as they win everyone is happy.”
You would think so. I guarantee you that there will be complaining after they win the world series by some miserable (french pronunciation) who isn’t happy that someone didn’t bunt – or committed an equally MONUMENTAL personal affront of a smiliar nature!
Some posters have a dreadful lack of perspective, IMO.
***THIS COMMENT IS DIRECTED TO THE OPPC CREW & YANKEE FANS!***
What an amzing job by the Yankees to come within a 3 run deficit and almost take this game tonight. I can not believe the envy from fake posters on here. It is quite hilarious and amusing.
As always I remain excited and anxious for Game 6 to arrive because our boys are coming back home right here to the Bronx and getting it done!
maybe a day off could help workin w/long
“AJ really stunk it up tonight, but at the very least he’ll be available for relief if there’s a game 7.”
You have seen the last of AJ and Coke in this series.
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Yanks will win game 6.
I was on this board after game 4, and posted this, in part, earlier in the game.
Everybody who wanted Burnett to start the game tonight, just admit you were wrong. Yes, Burnett is better then game Guadin. We get it. But Burnett on 3 days rest? Who knows.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
Jeremy
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 am
I love how people compare everything to 2004. I can’t wait for the Yankees to win so we never have to hear about 2004 again.
are you kidding me? that was the most epic choke in sports history. not just baseball, all of sports. we will hear about that forever. no matter how successful we are, we still did that. it still horrifies me.
hope the yanks fans will show there voice
It stinks that the game isn’t tomorrow. Tomorrow is going to seem like F O R E V E R.
It’s not going to be a popular opinion around these parts, and I don’t like thinking it, but I honestly think we lose it in 7 for an arguably even more embarrassing failure than 2004, and it will all be on Girardi, for this senseless, stupid 3 man rotation nonsense.
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Seriously Donnie, grow a pair. Honestly at some point 2004 is going to stop being an excuse for Yankee fans to show so little faith in their team, despite all evidence to the contrary.
This isn’t going to be a popular sentiment, but I’m going to say it anyway – you sound like a pre-2004 Red Sox fan.
girardi’s IQ:
I love your thoughts about coke, too bad he was already dragged out back and shot. He wont have a chnce to celebrate.
regardless of what game we win it, this was the wrong move. just admit it. seriously.
Well burnett you let down more than 25 guys, you let down as many yankee fans there is out there. but thats all in the past will get them in game 6
Tex looked a bit irritated by the media
The Truth November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
I was on this board after game 4, and posted this, in part, earlier in the game.
Everybody who wanted Burnett to start the game tonight, just admit you were wrong. Yes, Burnett is better then game Guadin. We get it. But Burnett on 3 days rest? Who knows.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
So you would rather have AJ start over Pettitte and Pettite over CC?
You’re smokin
The Truth
The truth is this could have happened in Game 6 as well.
We can all dismiss the 04 references, because we are out here, not in that clubhouse.
You can bet they have that in the backs of their minds. I notice A-Rod remembered when asked the question about feeling good being up 3-1, and he said, “we have been here before, so we aren’t taking anything for granted.” You know what he was talking about.
Well, they better get that out of their skulls, because that kind of thing can cause problems with your performance. They just need to go out there and play there game, the rest will take care of itself once they win.
I thought they were supposed to lose today anyway against Cliff Lee.
You wish AJ could learn to battle like his rotation mates. I mean he just let it get away way too early.
Little Pedrito’s gotta be pleased he gets another shot on Broadway but I have a feeling it’ll be his final curtain is coming down right on his head.
“I feel like I let 25 guys down,” he said. “I just couldn’t get it to go where I wanted it to go. … I had a chance to do something special in here tonight and I let all the guys down. I let the city down.”
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Sorry AJ but it doesn’t matter. I don’t want to sound like a jerk but Yankee fans have heard this all before from you. It’s good that AJ Burnett is accountable for his bad outings but it doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t get the job done tonight.
This really does nothing for me as a Yankee fan…all AJ needed to do was avoid implosion tonight and I believe The Yankees would’ve won this game. It is very much a letdown and hopefully something AJ Burnett learns from so he can come back next season and be a little more consistent for this team.
It’s also something that Cashman needs to keep in mind in the offseason regarding signing another pitcher (especially if Andy retires) because if AJ is as inconsistent next year as he was this year, we can’t count on him to stop losing streaks or in big-game situations. This WS basically sums up AJ Burnett’s year in that one minute he’s hot and the next he’s not. It’s just not enough for a team that expects to contend for a championship every year.
Pedro is not going more than 6 innings in game 6 and now that he can’t get extra rest after his over 100 pitch performance he will not be as sharp.
Jeff NJ – Official Positive Poster November 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 am
Didn’t we just live through this ten days ago? Have we not learned anything? Just because we lose game 5 and the series goes back to NY, just delays the inevitable. The Yankees will win this world series in 6 games. Most people picked it in 6 or 7 anyway so no need for anyone to be shocked.
I couldn’t agree more. Many fans are so shortsighted. I think the players are much more confident than many of their fans.
Andy hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest for 3 years, wow.
Carl, it wasn’t AJ on 3 days rest…we’ve seen it before. AJ goes consumed and freaked out by the moment. He lost it.
The Truth November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
I was on this board after game 4, and posted this, in part, earlier in the game.
Everybody who wanted Burnett to start the game tonight, just admit you were wrong. Yes, Burnett is better then game Guadin. We get it. But Burnett on 3 days rest? Who knows.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
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Why are you causing trouble and trying to make people eat crow? No one is going to start apologizing and bowing down to some random person on the Internet…
Unlike Game 2, the Yankees will have their A-lineup against Pedro (minus Melky, of course) … having Jorge and Matsui back in the lineup is going to be a huge lift.
As far as staying positive … we are still up 3-2 and when you consider how close we came to losing last night and the way A.J. pitched tonight, we could have very easily been heading back home down 3-2 … you cant lose sight of that either.
No one said this would be easy … the Phillies are the defending champs and obviously, will not relinquish their crown without a fight … so we have to outpunch them on Wednesday, get the lead into the 8th inning, and have Mo locked and loaded for one last 6 out save.
Not saying it will be easy, but it can be done … I feel it will be and we will celebrate on Wednesday.
I hate listening to Kay right now on YES he is SOOOO negative about Andy on 3 days rest.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
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Tell this to Girardi, it was his decision, not ours.
He obviously didn’t agree with you. I wonder why? (see game 5)
JZ
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 am
Andy hasn’t pitched on 3 days rest for 3 years, wow.
lee never did it in his career and people wanted him starting yesterday
Good they battled back.
I don’t see “momentum” being an issue. There’s a day off, for one. For two, the Yankees did not lay down. For three, they’re going back to their home park.
Everything happens for a reason.
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There’s a reason you’re one of my favorite posters on here, Doreen.
KF – I had poked around but didn’t get really serious about it. I think I am going to renew my effort. I also have a cousin whose son works in the City and gets tickets pretty regularly. She’s going to check with him tomorrow to see if he has come across any.
I’m going to give it a shot, but unless I can find a ticket that is going to be worth the effort I have to put into getting there and finding a place to stay over, I’m not going to bother. Just for the heck of it I checked out the prices for Legends seats. HO-LY!!!!! I wouldn’t put out those prices even if I had it to spare. I think the cheapest I saw was $4500.
The Truth November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
I was on this board after game 4, and posted this, in part, earlier in the game.
Everybody who wanted Burnett to start the game tonight, just admit you were wrong. Yes, Burnett is better then game Guadin. We get it. But Burnett on 3 days rest? Who knows.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
So you would rather have AJ start over Pettitte and Pettite over CC?
You’re smokin
Yes, 100 and 10 percent. I would prefer burnett on full rest with cc on 3 days rest with pettite comming out of the bullpen to back them up.
I quit smoking, sorry pal.
Can someone tell me what tex said to the media? I dont get the Yes network and i stuck listening to the idiots on MLBN (mitch williams can suck it).
27 November 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 am
Carl, it wasn’t AJ on 3 days rest…we’ve seen it before. AJ goes consumed and freaked out by the moment. He lost it.
And that’s why I want Pettitte in Game 6.
now that i think about it, it’s actually pretty incredible how bad phil coke really is at his job – i mean, considering that he’s basically considered a “lefty-specialist” and he constantly gives up HRs to lefties – the chances of 2/3 of the lefties he faced hitting HRs must’ve been really small statistically – i’m not even mad, it really is pretty amazing
…i’m totally joking, i’m disgusted….the only thing more sickening than phil coke being as unbelievably, historically bad as he is, is the fact that joe girardi actually continues to believe him in and put him in
Give the Ball to Andy! he’ll finish them off!!!Let’s get them in NY!!!
I still think it was the move to make starting AJ. He had a bad game, like he’s had throughout the season. Had they started Gaudin the result would probably be the same, and there is no guarantee that AJ would have pitched well on regular rest.
If Andy can go 5-6 innings the Yankees should be able to win the game and championship.
michelle b.
I thought you were a Yankee fan. Many of the greatest Yankee hero’s of all time a have labored for a game or 2
and even during the world series.
hope yanks score alot of runs against pedro..becuz how much can andy give us..hopefully he has a lot ..but little bit worrisum
Tex basically kept saying that every game is a new game and you have a shot to go out and get some key hits. He was happy that the yanks got 5 off Lee and that he got a hit. He feels that he is swinging the bat better. Not much groundbreaking in the interview.
Damn right he let the city down! I’ll let this slide since he won a pivotal game 2, but man… how can a guy with his talent be so awful sometimes?!
pedro and his 86mph fastball wont have the same luck of us fouling cookies back on wed night. put it in the books met fans and yankee haters. we are pedro’s daddy and we are taking this in 6….
I’m not even turning on WFAN tonight, it’s going to be whine country.
Whoa. I think I’ll avoid reading the game thread.
Brutal outing by AJ that they almost recovered from. Wasted especially good games by Alex and Damon.
I like our chances to get 1 of 2 in New York.
Go, Yankees.
(btw, didn’t see the first half of the game, but was listening on the radio, they kept questioning the strike zone, was it a little wacky?)
I still think the yankees will win, but NOTHING can justify how utterly stupid this move was.
The Truth
You are obviously not a Yankee fan, or you would not be excited to have been right. You waited all day in hopes that you would be right about this. Sickening.
# trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 am
KF – I had poked around but didn’t get really serious about it. I think I am going to renew my effort. I also have a cousin whose son works in the City and gets tickets pretty regularly. She’s going to check with him tomorrow to see if he has come across any.
I’m going to give it a shot, but unless I can find a ticket that is going to be worth the effort I have to put into getting there and finding a place to stay over, I’m not going to bother. Just for the heck of it I checked out the prices for Legends seats. HO-LY!!!!! I wouldn’t put out those prices even if I had it to spare. I think the cheapest I saw was $4500.
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Trisha, you should come sit with Lovey and I. Chef Dan Pasqua is going to outdo himself on Wednesday night. See my post above.
Ta ta.
100 pitches of fun…
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 am
I hate listening to Kay right now on YES he is SOOOO negative about Andy on 3 days rest.
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That is a good news for the yanks Kay’s opinions are wrong most of the time.
Coke is trade bait to me.The game would’ve been tied,if he didn’t serve up 2 HR.
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Yes, we have the leverage now, could get a big wooden bat in return.
Phillie BP
11.2 innings
7 earned runs
12 hits
14k/4bbs
Thats why we will win this series.
Who honestly thought that they would take 2/3 in Philly?
SO STOP YOUR DAMN MOANING, ALREADY!
These aren’t the Rockies, Padres, Mets, or some other random NL club. They are pretty good.
But they are not good enough. Their starting pitching and BP are very weak after Lee, and they both have been exposed.
The Phils are still very lucky to be alive at this point.
Enough with the negative thoughts. I know it’s some form of reverse psychology (you think they’ll lose so they’ll win), but the better team usually wins at 7 game series, and the Yankees are the better team.
Yes, they don’t have a number four starter, but that hasn’t mattered yet, and even if this goes 7, I doubt it will matter now.
giraradi’s iq
Your last post was absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.
You receive the dunce cap for your thoughtless remarks.
Don’t watch the games anymore, you T R O L L.
Yanks better tattoo Pedro. I can’t stand him to begin with and I hope they smack him around to take the Phillies out of the game early. This isn’t ’99 Pedro.
I hate the pessimism. No one knows what’s going to happen in any game. (I’m talking about Kay & Singleton right now.) What Pettitte did in the last game (with a long rain delay) doesn’t necessarily foretell what he’ll do on Wednesday.
And, John Flaherty, WHY, exactly should I expect Pedro Martinez to have another good game in New York? He’s as likely to NOT have a good game on Wednesday,
And also, I don’t think it’s fair to say the bullpen didn’t do the job tonight when it was only ONE guy in the bullpen who didn’t do the job. Phil Coke. The rest did fine.
And Flaherty’s right – the better arms will be rested.
This is not all doom & gloom, folks, it’s really not.
A sweep in Philly would have been nice, but the chances were slim it was going to happen.
And on the silly side, maybe the Ghosts want the first WS celebration to take place in the new stadium. Like consecrating the grounds.
Bronx Bombers Girl
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
***THIS COMMENT IS DIRECTED TO THE OPPC CREW & YANKEE FANS!***
What an amzing job by the Yankees to come within a 3 run deficit and almost take this game tonight. I can not believe the envy from fake posters on here. It is quite hilarious and amusing.
As always I remain excited and anxious for Game 6 to arrive because our boys are coming back home right here to the Bronx and getting it done!
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You go girl!!!!! 6 runs down in 8th inning and they were one swing away from tying it.. many teams like the phillies yesterday would have packed it up already.. didn’t you notice the tense fans and the phillies dugout when the yanks had 1 and 3 nobody out as well as when damon got the hit..
I won’t blame jeter for the DP.. It happens and it came at the wrong time.. Doesnt take away what he has done in this world series.. Game 6 in our house.. Andy going… Matsui and posada back in the lineup.. Pedro probably on the mound.. what else do you need? I’m all pumped up and ready..
Strike zone wasn’t nearly as bad as it was last night – but there were a few inconsistencies.
KF,
what did i say? I thought i was being very positive
kay also wanted cc in game six of the alcs..
girardi’s IQ is below 65 November 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 am
now that i think about it, it’s actually pretty incredible how bad phil coke really is at his job – i mean, considering that he’s basically considered a “lefty-specialist” and he constantly gives up HRs to lefties – the chances of 2/3 of the lefties he faced hitting HRs must’ve been really small statistically – i’m not even mad, it really is pretty amazing
…i’m totally joking, i’m disgusted….the only thing more sickening than phil coke being as unbelievably, historically bad as he is, is the fact that joe girardi actually continues to believe him in and put him in
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I don’t think Joe believes in him, per se, because he put him in a low pressure situation when the team was down.
That makes Coke’s performance even worse… if he can’t pitch well from behind, then he can’t be relied upon to pitch during a lead. It’s a good thing Marte has been so good.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
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http://tinyurl.com/ykbuorj
Trisha,
I’m going to give it a shot, but unless I can find a ticket that is going to be worth the effort I have to put into getting there and finding a place to stay over, I’m not going to bother. Just for the heck of it I checked out the prices for Legends seats. HO-LY!!!!! I wouldn’t put out those prices even if I had it to spare. I think the cheapest I saw was $4500.
I wish you good luck. I’m a value guy and would find that hard to justify. Whether you have the opportunity to go or not I know they can count on your undying support
(btw, didn’t see the first half of the game, but was listening on the radio, they kept questioning the strike zone, was it a little wacky?)
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You bet. It was ridiculous. It’s odd. Almost like the ump was making up fir last night’s wide zone.
People are forgetting this is the first time Pedro will pitch on a normal 4 days rest in a long time. He will tire out. Also he has to deal with Posada in the middle of the lineup this time.
Jeter
Damon
Teixeira
Rodriguez
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Swisher
Gardner
That lineup looks a lot stronger than the lineup so saw tonight. And the yanks still put up 6 runs against there ace and there best bullpen pitcher (Madson)
AJ is obviously not the guy to have on the mound when you’re going for the kill.
I think I’d be more nervous with him on full rest in game 6 than Andy on short rest.
Andy’s a fighter. So is Pedro for that matter.
It’s gonna be a classic battle.
We should all consider ourselves lucky we have a stake in the outcome.
Since Andy and Pedro are going , game 6 will come down to the bullpen . We will have our A lineup out there and have the better pen so don’t worry children I guarantee a win.
michelle b. – November 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Some Positives: (trying to get into the OPPC)
1. There is no quit in these guys ever! I’m proud to be a yankee fan tonight.
2. 4 days ago, we would have all been happy coming back to new york just taking one from the phillies.
3. The Yankees are taking the show back HOME. This is all scripted. They want to celebrate in front of the fans.
4. Phil Hughes pitched well, Aceves too.
5. We now for sure know who we can and cant rely on, hope Girardi is paying attention!
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michelle b. – November 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 pm
jeter has one rbi, because he is hitting behind, cano, melky and a pitcher.
Jeter doesnt choke, he is a big game player. He just hit into a DP, thats not a choke thats more like his regular season M.O…
I dont think i was negative.
The fact that there are strike zone problems in the World Series, all World Series long, is despicable.
This is baseball’s biggest stage, and instead of these losers on ESPN hoping for fairness from umpires, they say “baseball needs a Game 7″
Where was that baseball needs a game 7 in 2004 or 2007???
The Truth November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 am
I was on this board after game 4, and posted this, in part, earlier in the game.
Everybody who wanted Burnett to start the game tonight, just admit you were wrong. Yes, Burnett is better then game Guadin. We get it. But Burnett on 3 days rest? Who knows.
Now we have Pettite on 3 days rest instead of a rested burnett.
Just admit you were wrong. that is it.
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Burnett could have been on normal rest and we still might have gotten these same results. That’s the way AJ is, you just don’t know what you are going to get.
With that being said, it was still better to go with AJ over Gaudin.
I saw that Tex strikeout from a mile away. He should just wait for the changeup. And we got Lee out of the game an inning too late.
The Truth
There are always The Consequences.
AJ is a crapshoot on any days rest. I still like the matchup for game 6. Pettitte just has to give them 5. He will, since the guy is a gamer.
This could likely be his final game ever, and you think he wants to go out a loser?
Also, Girardi used to CATCH Andy, in WS games, if I remember correctly. Don’t you think he knows him better than anyone? That he set this up from the beginning of the Series?
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The Truth
You are obviously not a Yankee fan, or you would not be excited to have been right. You waited all day in hopes that you would be right about this. Sickening.”
basically I said the same thing after game 4 and before game 5 today. I hate to see I was right, I mean who cares?
The gamble Joe put on is bigger than Charlie’s on Game 4. Now Joe loses, and our starting pitchers are WIDE OPEN till possible game 7.
We can hope 2 things:
1. Andy won’t give up too many runs. Don’t expect he pitch an awesome game, thst’s not ganna happen.
2. Pedro is caught by our hitters, as early as possible.
Joe is all in and waiting for the 4th and 5th card to show up.
hey angel, whether you are wrong on the interent or in person, does it really matter? are you trying to say you can spew nonsense on this board and it is ok???? at least other people try and get it right.
that move was dumb, period. i wish i was wrong but that move was dumb beyond dumb.
i still think the yankees will win it one way or another, but nothing can take away from how bad that move failed.
for people who don’t believe that the yanks will win..
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SiVj.....+point.JPG
michelle b, be more positive! Or else!
AJ did not let a city down – he tried and trust me NYC will survive
“Trisha, you should come sit with Lovey and I. Chef Dan Pasqua is going to outdo himself on Wednesday night. See my post above.
Ta ta.”
LMAO!!!!
I’ve really missed your posts!!!
WS,
Thanks. morgan questioned some pitches in the first walk to Howard (ended up not hurting us), and the first walk to Rollins. Of course his eyes are rheumy, but they were all I had.
morgan mentioned the diminutive strike zone several times when AJ was pitching.
BTW, why was Victorino lifted? He didn’t look happy. He’s a good defender and one of their table-setters, so he must’ve done something naughty.
thanks nick.. why are you in larkspur?
From Heyman: gm cashman just told me, “andy’s looking forward to it”
Doreen,
I agree with your post. I watched the Yes post game and they were much more practical than the sky is falling crowd here tonight. To win the series in 6 would be fabulous- and they even have parades for that
jz
what makes him not a Yankees fan is that he is excited he was right and wants credit for it.
I love the way Peter Gammons keeps saying that the Phillies haven’t played their game yet. Hey, Peter, think maybe the Yankees had something to do with that?
The guy is unbelievable with his Yankee hatred.
if we have a lead we could get 6 outs from mo so that will help…our pen defenately need to be ready and offense as well to ..and need to stop utley
can somebody please write out the full transcript of coke’s post-game conversation? if he actually said that he wants the ball tomorrow – or has the idea in his head that he’ll ever throw another pitch in the majors (unless girardi is still manager – he’s the only person stupid enough to keep throwin him out there) – that is hilarious, and i want to incorporate it into my stand-up routine…..thanks
Thurston, I just read your other post and laughed til I cried!!!!!
PLEASE stay around!
Guys, I still think we will pull it out one way or another, but this was the wrong move.
Seriously, Burnett on full rest or Pettite on 3??? The objective is to win one game when you are up 3-1, not to see how fast you can win it.
I wasn’t thrilled with the AJ on 3 day rest decision. I felt you took a pitcher who needed to be in his comfort zone for everything to be right and took him right out of it in a pressure situation.
On top of that, you’re doing the same thing to Andy which isn’t fair.
They could have pitched Gaudin tonight and tried to get 5 out of him and mix and match from there, but they didn’t.
Andy on short rest will be an adventure, especially with Cowboy Joe West behind the plate who will want everyone in the world to know that it’s his game behind the plate…but Andy doesn’t have to be perfect.
He has to keep the team in the game, something AJ had no ability to.
AJ’s quotes are spot on. He did let the team and city down. He fell apart. Again. The guy has amazing stuff and should dominate. These bouts of inconsistency are infuriating.
That said, the Phillies got away with one tonight.
The pen was great tonight until Coke pulled that nonsense in the 7th.
And we still had them biting their nails in the 9th.
Whether it’s Happ, Pedro or Hamels we face we can hit. Our guys will be at home and the pen, outside of Coke, proved it was up to the task tonight.
Andy will give his best on Wednesday and I’m willing to bet on that than anything the Phillies are throwing out there.
I also think the double play is gonna haunt Jeter and he’s going to do something Jeterian Wednesday night.
“BTW, why was Victorino lifted? He didn’t look happy. He’s a good defender and one of their table-setters, so he must’ve done something naughty.”
He got hit by a pitch in the earlier innings (right on the hand). He was shaking his hand in pain the rest of the night. When he was taken out, it was still a 8-2 game so Manuel thought they had it in the bag. And, yes, Victorino was not happy about being lifted. XRays came back negative btw.
If you guys are so concerned with 3 days rest. We can always hope for a rainout on Wednesday. That would help us infinitely. Even if Game 7 were Friday, Cliff would be on 3 days rest.
The Yankees need to give Utley a bow tie on Wednesday.
Can anyone tell me what Tex had to say?
I heard damon in all his stuttering glory….he is still very cute!
Tex is wound so tight right now I feel he is going to pop. Someone please get this man to a zen master asap.
here come the “i told you so monday morning qb dumb fans” with the aj shouldnt have started. puhleeeze. starting gaudin was never the right move. its like the old lady that stays on 12 when dealer shows a 10. if she wins does it mean its the right move? no. i laugh at fans managing game after the fact…
“hey angel, whether you are wrong on the interent or in person, does it really matter?”
It doesn’t matter at all, period. That was my point. What kind of bragging rights are you going to get if people admit they’re wrong? Huh? You can’t exactly put “Made random people on the internet eat crow over being wrong about AJ Burnett pitching in Game 5 on short rest” on your resume and expect people to be enormously impressed, can you? So what’s the point?
“are you trying to say you can spew nonsense on this board and it is ok????”
Why not? People spew nonsense on this board all the time. What are we supposed to do? Hunt them down and tar and feather them?
igotid88
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 am
The Yankees need to give Utley a bow tie on Wednesday.
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Or maybe stop throwing him pitches right down the middle.
Accuscore just got this one up.
61-39 Yankees winning in 10,000 simulations of game 6.
They haven’t been wrong yet.
michelle b: I’m going to be doing a little housesitting up here and wanted to get a head start with the HD flatscreen.
I’m making a little Bigelow green tea, I think that will help.
michele b
If i took some of your earlier post out of context it was because I was skimming quickly and I apologize.
“Can anyone tell me what Tex had to say?”
Tex basically kept saying that every game is a new game and you have a shot to go out and get some key hits. He was happy that the yanks got 5 off Lee and that he got a hit. He feels that he is swinging the bat better. Not much groundbreaking in the interview.
The thing about Gaudin is that he really hasn’t pitched at all recently. He’s only pitched 1 inning in the playoffs.
The 4th starter in the playoffs was always going to be an issue. Joba was too unreliable late in the season and our 5th starter by committee with Mitre and Gaudin didn’t inspire much confidence. Wang’s injury really threw a wrench in the Yankee’s plans this season.
It’s really quite incredible and impressive that the Yankees have gone with a 3-man rotation the entire postseason and are 1 win away from the championship.
Is there any chance of a rainout on Wed.
I will take <=4 runs over 5 innings from Andy……
m.
Victorino was hit by a pitch when he went to bunt. He was hit in the fingers of his throwing hand. He had x-rays but evidently was ok. He really did not want to come out of the game. Saving him for the next game, I guess.
WS,
Thanks again. I was so happy that we had “gotten” to Cliff Lee a bit. Then I went into the market. I swear, I was in there for like 10 min. Then right when I get back in the car, Utley hits a homerun, so I’m hoping that it was a solo. Nope, it was the first multi-run homerun of the series. They said Shane got hit on a bunt attempt.
good thing from tonight was they hit lee, ans gave philly a scare at the end. philly has nothing to look forward to.
You can feel personally vindicated in believing that it was the wrong move, if you like – without having to demand that people admit they were wrong.
That’d be my approach, if I’d thought as you did.
Pittsburgh,
They got Game 1 of the WS wrong.
We all have to admit that we would love to see a Mr. November 3 HR performance from ARod.
Who thought if the lineup got to him that the Yankees would have won it? My bet is a majority of us.
Here’s hoping we see it, at Yankee Stadium, on Wednesday.
That would be the icing on the cake of the season of redemption.
“And on the silly side, maybe the Ghosts want the first WS celebration to take place in the new stadium. Like consecrating the grounds.”
Hey! That’s one of the points I consider to be the most salient!!!
KF – one thing that will ALWAYS be there for the Yankees is my undying support. Always, always, always! I love them at their best and at their worst.
michelle b,
It’s also getting late, sorry I misspelled you name on the last post. Hopefully Wednesday’s game has a better outcome
youronthemark-texeira -
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not a monday quaterback at all, most people called this as the wrong move before it happened, and it turned out to be the wrong move. if anything, we are saturday quaterbacks.
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angel
Why not? People spew nonsense on this board all the time. What are we supposed to do? Hunt them down and tar and feather them?
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just because people do it does NOT mean it is right. you hate trolls don’t you? it was a dumb move no matter what you want to say after the fact.
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They did, but who would have predicted that kind of performance from Lee? It was historic, and impossible to simulate.
Do you think that is going to happen again?
What is with all the Jeter bashing? He is one of the best hitters this world series. He grounded into a dp it happens.
The whole second-guessing of AJ on short rest is ridiculous. AJ is perfectly capable of throwing like he did tonight on any amount of rest you give him. He either has it or he doesn’t. Story of his career.
Anybody up for Coin Cowturd tomorrow?
He’ll be his usual, “The Yankees let it get away from them, now they will have trouble closing this out.” “The Phlllies really showed me something yesterday, they look locked in right now, I like their chances against Andy Pettitte.”
drivel … drivel … drivel …
Also, somebody needs to get him a bib, he dribbles all over himself.
Nick:
House Sitting a place that has an HD flat screen is not a bad deal. Bigelow tea huh? you invite Torre over to talk some baseball?
Wednesday could be Andy’s last start — ever!
What a way to end a career.
tex’s friend
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 am
good thing from tonight was they hit lee, ans gave philly a scare at the end. philly has nothing to look forward to.
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I agree also Matsui is on fire you gain his bat back. The yanks did there job in philly. It would of been real nice to close it out tonight. But they went in there tied 1-1 and took 2 out of 3 and took the series lead.
I’m watching Mike Mussina Yankeeography!
Good times.
Have a great day off tomorrow, gang. I know I will. Wednesday is the charm. The ghosts say welcome home Yankees!
Guys, all I am saying is that was the wrong move. I will be at game 6 and would love to listen why it was right. Seriously, I firmly believe it was the wrong move and will buy any one who can convince me other wise a beer. No questions asked.
we have this series one way or another, but that was the wrong move.
Pepitone, no different than any other ESPN FOX personality. I do not want it go to Game 7 because is it not possibel that these guys, even the ones that were not here at that time, will feel pressure.
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PS–barring a bullpen implosion in the 7th and 8th (also not predictable), it would have been 2-0 in the ninth, and the Yankees may indeed have pulled out game 1. Still, the Lee performance was one of the 10 best ever, which no program can simulate. It obviously did not repeat itself tonight.
Nonetheless, Accuscore has done a great job. I bought the one year package, but I have not placed bets yet.
Michelle B
For the love of God, please refrain from referring to Damon’s stuttering. He has overcome a disability – give him credit for that. One of my children suffered thru childhood and life was not pleasant. We are all adults here. Let’s show our grace. Thank you.
the truth
there could possibly be a rainout on Wed. Allowing CC and Andy on normal rest.
one thing that will ALWAYS be there for the Yankees is my undying support. Always, always, always! I love them at their best and at their worst.
You are a true fan, and in the minority of the posters during a game (trolls excluded)
The Truth November 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
Guys, all I am saying is that was the wrong move. I will be at game 6 and would love to listen why it was right. Seriously, I firmly believe it was the wrong move and will buy any one who can convince me other wise a beer. No questions asked.
we have this series one way or another, but that was the wrong move.
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No problem if you think it’s the wrong move, that’s your opinion.
But forcing people to eat crow and admit that they were wrong is just silly and pointless. Not everyone shares the same opinion as you.
KF,
no problem.
Im usually easygoing, someone got me lit up a little earlier tonight, but it wont happen again.
thank god – the yankees are talented enough that they are going to win this series…the bad thing about that is that everyone’s going to overlook how much of a retard joe girardi is – think of his moves this postseason!!:
-taking out robertson for aceves against the angels
-not pinch running for matsui tonight
-starting burnett on short rest tonight, which forces us to start pettite on short rest in game 6 (when CC is the ONLY one who should be pitching on short rest – just because he does it well doesn’t mean other pitchers will – he’s a BEAST and he’s young – burnett is a complete coward with the mental strength and moxie of a 4 year old girl)
-bringing in phil “if i don’t give up a homer to the one lefty i face, then it’s a successful outing!” coke (and even having this pathetic excuse for a pitcher on the major league roster of the new york yankees during the world series)
-not using robertson more throughout this postseason
i could come up with a lot more stuff too, but this post is long enough. the most mentally challenging job that girardi should have is sometihng like a cashier or a busboy
I wouldn’t be upset if somehow tonight was the last game AJ every pitched for the Yankees. Trade him. (No one’s taking the contract because the Yankees overpaid him.) He’s just too inconsistent. And it’s not like he’s a 4 runs in 6 innings inconsistent. When it rains with AJ it pours. The Yankees are in a real spot now. Game 6 is a MUST WIN. As a previous poster indicated, Game 7′s are just way too unpredictable. And CC, on short rest yet again – that’s begging for trouble.
To be honest i would rather not have thrown AJ on 3 days rest, but the problem is that our 4th starter is a guy who would have only been able to throw about 85 pitches (alot more than AJ threw tonite). It would have been alot worse if AJ would have thrown like this on normal rest in game 6 which he has proven to have the ability to do.
WS-
thank you for the Tex transcript i appreciate it.
Coke’s job is to get lefties out.
Coke can not do his job.
Coke should be fired.
If he can’t get lefties out he’s worthless.
but who would have predicted that kind of performance from Lee?
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That is exactly why you don’t want this to go 7 games. A great pitcher like CC could have the same performance that Lee did. CC would also be on 3 days rest for the 2nd time in a row.
michelle b: no Torre, but a cup of tea is good for a little soul searching… I might have let the team down tonight…. somehow.
Scared of the Wall
Of course not every one share an opinion because they are like……… elbows.
But, “aj on short rest is a bad idea” is not an opinion, it is a FACT!
coke needs to disappear
michelle b.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 am
Can someone tell me what tex said to the media? I dont get the Yes network and i stuck listening to the idiots on MLBN (mitch williams can suck it).
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Michelle B. – This is the gist of what Tex said on YES:
discussed last @ bat fastball away 1st pitch 3 good changeups swung @ two of them; the fact that it was the same scenario yesterday except for the fact he was plunked last night with the ball; he saw better pitches tonight; tough to beat a team and take 3 wins away from home that they are exact same situation as the ALCS up 3-2; every game is a new game and he was able to get a double off Lee; when asked if he was not seeing the ball he said not getting hits and then he said the Phillies had a good run today by scoring 8 runs against Yankees.
CR9
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 am
Pepitone, no different than any other ESPN FOX personality. I do not want it go to Game 7 because is it not possibel that these guys, even the ones that were not here at that time, will feel pressure.
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I’m not sure I follow, but, yes, I too am not thrilled with a possible game 7. Games 7′s are crapshoots, anything can happen, and often does.
The Yankees really need to wrap this up Wednesday! Don’t give this bunch any life, kill em, bury em, and put the gravestone over them. MO GAME 7!
# JeterJobaCanoFanForever, enough said November 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 am
Michelle B
For the love of God, please refrain from referring to Damon’s stuttering. He has overcome a disability – give him credit for that. One of my children suffered thru childhood and life was not pleasant. We are all adults here. Let’s show our grace. Thank you.
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I said he was cute because of it..its not like i called him retarded. I have a speech impediment myself and speaking in public makes it worse. But do i need to get flamed over the internet for calling someone cute for his faults, i think nnnnnooot..
angel
Why not? People spew nonsense on this board all the time. What are we supposed to do? Hunt them down and tar and feather them?
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just because people do it does NOT mean it is right. you hate trolls don’t you? it was a dumb move no matter what you want to say after the fact.
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It doesn’t make people trolls to disagree with you though, I hate to tell you. You are entitled to your opinion, you just need to realize that not everyone agrees with you.
And it doesn’t make them trolls or even dumb to disagree with you. And demanding they admit they were wrong, is ridiculous.
Right move/wrong move aside…as good as AJ “can” be he’s not a guy you want pitching in a clinching game if you can help it. He’s a pitcher that (a) feeds off emotion more than most and (b) relies on a certain degree of wildness to be effective. Neither attributes make for a great “series on the line” pitcher.
I’m pretty happy being up 3-2 with both Pettitte and Sabathia lined up to pitch. Would not want to rely on AJ in game 6 however this series played out.
Im usually easygoing, someone got me lit up a little earlier tonight, but it wont happen again.
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I wasn’t you’re fault, some of the posts here tonight were brutal and with little thought from fair weather Yankee fans.
I hope you’ll enjoy the next and hopefully last game of the season
Pittsburgh,
I was just pointing it out. I was shocked when Accuscore was wrong after Game 1!
As for Lee, I don’t think he can duplicate it because he won’t be pitching again in this series.
Andy vs. Pedro could be a wash. But I think CC can outpitch Hamels at home.
I think we win in game 6. They’re not going to wait for it to come to them.
Would love to see them chew up Pedro and spit him out. Stoopid poodle.
nick: im sure you didnt let the team down. maybe the city of larkspur, but certainly not the team.
Who’s keeping the True Fan list?
Someone said it earlier – the Yankees don’t really have a fourth starter. Once they went down the 3-starter path, with some success mind you, there was no opportunity for Gaudin to pitch and stay relatively sharp. There was no way Gaudin was ever going to pitch a WS game, unless MAYBE if they were us 3-0. MAYBE.
Pat M. talked often about missing Wang about this time of year. And he is missed.
But, having to win only one of the next 2 games at home with Andy and CC (and all hands on deck), I like the chances. Everything gets overanalyzed.
But everything happens for a reason, it really does.
And maybe it WILL rain so bad on Wednesday they get the extra day. Hey, it could happen.
“The record for RBIs in a single postseason, according to the MLB game notes, is 19 by Cleveland’s Sandy Alomar Jr. in 1997, Angels’ Scott Spiezio in 2002 and Boston’s David Ortiz in 2004.”
Arod has 18. That record is coming to The Bronx. So is the World Series trophy. Arod will get the MVP.
Luckily I have Friday off so I’ll be able to go to the parade.
It doesn’t make people trolls to disagree with you though, I hate to tell you. You are entitled to your opinion, you just need to realize that not everyone agrees with you.
And it doesn’t make them trolls or even dumb to disagree with you. And demanding they admit they were wrong, is ridiculous.
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Every one doesn’t have to agree with me, that is obivously fine. But before you were just advocating that spewing nonsense is ok!!!! that is definitely not fine.
seriously, normally a dumb move can just go without comment, but this move was so dumb beyond dumb that you guys should just admit that you were wrong.
michelle: I could care less about Larkspur!
Could Burnett have been worse tonight?
Let’s hope Andy is better Wednesday than he was in Game 6 against the Diamondbacks.
BB Girl-
thank you for that. i wanted to know what he said about the last AB.
We took 2 out of 3 in Philly…
We took 2 out of 3 in Philly…
We took 2 out of 3 in Philly…
We play on Wednesday, we win on Wednesday (alliteration?)
michelle b.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 am
Can anyone tell me what Tex had to say?
I heard damon in all his stuttering glory….he is still very cute!
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Oh just shut up! I can’t stand people who make fun of others’ disabilities. Grow up or go away.
Let me be clear: We will win this series one way or another, and I will be at game 6 cheering my boys on, but this was the wrong move. PERIOD.
Bronx Jeers: please take some good fan snaps at the parade. I am going to do my part and make another pilgrimage to Vallejo tomorrow.
Outside of Lee, the Yankees are all over Phillie pitching, and no way the ghost of Pedro holds them down twice in 1 week. Game 6 will all hinge on Andy. I’m confident that IF Andy can throw a decent game on short rest, the trophy is ours. Now if Andy does a Burnett, I give us a 50/50 in game 7. The Phils are not intimidated by CC, and he’d be on short rest the second time in a row, 3rd time in the post season.
Burnett could have been on normal rest and we still might have gotten these same results. That’s the way AJ is, you just don’t know what you are going to get.
With that being said, it was still better to go with AJ over Gaudin.
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Does anyone actually think we’d have started Gaudin? I never bought that for a minute. Guy just gets clocked by left-handed hitters.
AJ is really a thrower – not a pitcher. If something is slightly askew, you get bad AJ. If his mechanics are sound, he’s lights out.
There’s no real other gear to go to, no problem solving on the mound ala Andy Pettitte.
But before you were just advocating that spewing nonsense is ok!!!! that is definitely not fine.
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You’re in the wrong place if you want a “no nonsense” zone, lol.
“seriously, normally a dumb move can just go without comment, but this move was so dumb beyond dumb that you guys should just admit that you were wrong.”
Its too late for going round in circles in a downward spiral of circular logic. I’m going to bed.
Nick: are you sure?
Kf: thanks for the vote of confidence, i hope wed is the final game of this series, im about to get an ulcer.
“Oh just shut up! I can’t stand people who make fun of others’ disabilities. Grow up or go away.”
Uh…she wasn’t making fun of his disability,
And maybe it WILL rain so bad on Wednesday they get the extra day. Hey, it could happen.
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Don’t wish for that…it raises the specter of Lee on three days rest for Friday…
michelle: am I sure about what? I’ve said a lot!
Its too late for going round in circles in a downward spiral of circular logic. I’m going to bed.
You don’t have to go around in circles. Just admit you were wrong.
hardly anyone on this blog pays attention to me when i say something of meaning, but when i call johnny damon cute for stuttering i get flammed. Wow.
Wang in Tawain see my above post for explanation.
Pitsburgh ~Yanee fan
Acciscore game 1 wrong,they picked the Yankees,CC lost!!
It’s the only one they got wrong.
nick: sure about not caring less. but i think i took it too far.
WS: thanks for sticking up for me.. sometimes its nice to have back up…
michelle b
Hang in there, even if it’s rough and goes to 7, the voctory parada will make most people forget down times and smile
This makes me feel a little bit better lol
“Whenever they tell me to pitch, I am ready to go,’’ said Pettitte, who didn’t think short rest would bother him. “I am plenty up to it.’’
I’m watching Mike Mussina Yankeeography!
Pitsburgh ~Yanee fan
Acciscore game 1 wrong,they picked the Yankees,CC lost!!
It’s the only one they got wrong.
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So, it’s like…80% of the time…they’re right all the time!
When will you people get it through your heads that, although Ramiro Pena is faster than Matsui, he’s not a base stealer, and there’s no way he was beating out Jeter’s double play grounder.
stuttering is a disability?
I mean it’s not cool to poke fun at, but I wasn’t aware that it’s a disability.
more like an impediment?
I hope the Yanks continue to swing short to the ball, as they did for the most part in Philly.
We were very disciplined and focused at the plate – the reason we were able to put together those cohesive ABs that led to big innings.
We have a tendency to over-swing at home. I hope we avoid that.
I’m watching Mike Mussina Yankeeography!
I’m watching it too but need to get up for a couple of early morning client meetings. It’s been a long night.
Speaking of Matsui, he is just on the baseball. Damon is locked in, too.
Poor Phillies. All the way down that pike again for nothing.
During Jeter’s at bat I was wondering to myself if he should bunt.
michelle: I’ve grown fond of little Larkspur. Absent the time I’ve spent here in recent months, I would surely care less.
I don’t think there are a whole lot of Yankee fans around here, however, but I’ll do the best I can Wednesday night, even if I have to drive across 37 to Vallejo to gather up some good Yankee spirit beforehand.
Ahh good ‘ol Moose. Too bad he’s not around for this WS. Would’ve liked to have seen him win one.
Jeter finally gets pie with a walkoff Series clincher in Game 6.
Blackaccord
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 am
You go girl!!!!! 6 runs down in 8th inning and they were one swing away from tying it.. many teams like the phillies yesterday would have packed it up already.. didn’t you notice the tense fans and the phillies dugout when the yanks had 1 and 3 nobody out as well as when damon got the hit..
I won’t blame jeter for the DP.. It happens and it came at the wrong time.. Doesnt take away what he has done in this world series.. Game 6 in our house.. Andy going… Matsui and posada back in the lineup.. Pedro probably on the mound.. what else do you need? I’m all pumped up and ready..
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Blackaccord,
Absolutely, I love the cameras panning on the Phillies fans in the stands wringing (is that a word lol) there “rally towels”. Our Yankee’s team never ceases to amaze me whether #1 or #9 in the lineup for that matter and also for all the criticisms on here about not hitting not pitching…I think they seem to forget that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE and YOU CAN NEVER COUNT THE YANKEE’S OUT. The Yankees are winning it here in the BX and whether I manage to score tickets (which I highly doubt
or I am sitting @ home I am going to cheer them on regardless!)
girardi’s unwise decision has now put the yanks in a tough spot. i thought about this prior…didn’t like the decision, a couple of people i know didn’t mind it, and others were too dumb to really think about it…
for some reason, girardi was one of the people that thought this was a good idea.
the odds of the yankees blowing this lead and this series just gotten much greater…the phillies were not losing game 5…with lee on the mound, it made best sense just to sacrifice gaudin and hope for the best.
go home with a rested aj and andy, but now…andy can get lit up a lot easier on 3 days rest vs. this offense, than of regular rest.
CC must be exhausted and hasn’t been sharp in his last 2 outings…
…this is not good.
Pettitte is a gamer I would be shocked if he doesn’t pitch into the 6th. Than a combination of Chamberlain/Marte/Hughes to get to Rivera for a 2 inning save.
And seeing Pedro for the 2nd time will be a big time advantage for the yanks. They hit Lee pretty well after looking lost in game 1 against him.
You will have Posada and Matsui back in the lineup and Swisher and Gardner hitting 8th and 9th that is completely different lineup than you saw tonight.
Pettitte + (almost) A lineup + Stadium = 27.
I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t believe it.
” And here’s Girardi’s post-game press conference. As you can hear, he said that if Pettitte feels good tomorrow, he will be the Yankees Game 6 starter.”
??????
Imagine Pettite comes out tomorrow and says “Short rest? Nah I’m not really feeling it.”
CR 9
there could possibly be a rainout on Wed. Allowing CC and Andy on normal rest.
Wednesday: Sunny, along with a few afternoon clouds. High around 50F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph.
Nick in SF in Larkspur
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Pettitte + (almost) A lineup + Stadium = 27.
I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t believe it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC02oYM-Du4
Despite the loss tonight, they really fought hard. I love the fact that Andy and CC are lined up for the next two.
AJ is too erratic, it doesn’t matter whether he is on short or full rest. You just dont know what you’re gonna get. When you’re a two-pitch pitcher, and one pitch is not working, you have nothing to fall back on. That is why it will become very difficult to have him face the same team twice in a 7 game series. I dont know if its too late in his career to work on his changeup???…at least make it serviceable. From what I see, the few times when he does throw it, its actually not that bad.
Moving on…We got Andy on the bump for Game 6 back in OUR HOUSE. We’ll be seeing Pedro for a 2nd time this series, and we already know what their bullpen is like.
People need to relax. Enjoy the offday tomorrow, and get ready to witness them close it out Wednesday night.
Yeah imagine if A.J. did this in Game 6. Many of you would be going nuts. Just be happy that the most reliable starters on the staff are set up up to finish this including Mo, and no A.J. Burnett and Phil Coke.
I think people are freaking out a bit because of 2004.
Does this feel like 2004?
It doesn’t to me.
Andy: “Do these innings count for the incentives clauses? No? Good luck, I’m shuttin’ it down.”
I’m thinking of moving Tex to the 2nd hole
If AJ were to ever take his changeup seriously, he’d have something.
Leiter on MLB.
Goonight. We win on Wednesday.
Nick: I like your math, and i like larkspur too.
Have a good night everyone!
michelle b
Take care of that ulcer tomorrow, do something fun
incentive clauses…haha!
Bronx jeers: that was hysterical!
I think the Yankees need to sit on the changeup. They’ve been beaten too much on that pitch i think.
thisguy
CC said that in his last start he was felt good but he was over throwing.
Calm Down ! The Yankees will win this. In case you didn’t notice the Phillies have Pedro and Hamels pitching and that does not inspire confidence for the Phillies.
As you can hear, he said that if Pettitte feels good tomorrow, he will be the Yankees Game 6 starter.
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What is the other option? Mitre?
G’nite Yankee fans! I can’t wait for Wednesday!
jeremy,
i know…and the yanks will probably win…but i just feel like you have a better chance to win game 6 or 7 with fully rested aj and andy…
we were losing game 5 either way…our lineup was awful, our pitcher was on short rest, the phillies had their ace going, and we were in philly where the defending champs had a must win.
it just didn’t make any sense. maybe if the yanks were facing blanton in game 5 to put it away, but it was lee…he got hit later in the game, but come on, going into it, aj going 7 innings and 2 runs may have been no good the way lee has been going.
im just saying that girardi took the yankees out of a position to where they would feel comfortable, to a position of if’s and question marks.
no one knows what andy can do on short rest now…and no one knows how CC will do with his third start to the same team in 9 days…there was too much negative, too many factors, and then too many problems if aj pitched and the yanks lost game 5…it was the wrong move before the first pitch of the game, and it was the wrong move after the last pitch of the game.
Gaudin would be the other option. Mitre isn’t on the roster.
I dont understand why people are still questioning the move to go with AJ tonight? Short rest or full rest, it doesnt matter. He was on full rest against Anaheim in Game 5 and it was 4-0 before he recorded an out.
Karl Ravech: “Game 6 will be like ’04 all over again! Pedro and Pettitte!”
Yes…. except that Pettitte was on the Astros in 2004.
If I had a penny for all the uninformed garbage the mediots have been spewing out the past few days….
I do agree with the people who said Burnett should be using his changeup more often. Is is no surprise that both times he faced a lineup for a 2nd game in the postseason he struggled. I dont think he even threw 1 changeup this postseason.
Burnett has a pretty decent changeup the times he did throw it in the regular season. Hopefully that is a pitch he works on in spring training and starts mixing it in more often next year.
zach…
the move didn’t make any sense…think about all the scenarios…the percentages and the odds…then tell me:
would you rather have aj at home full rest for game 6, with andy on full rest for game 7 (or CC to start or relief in game 7)
or have andy on short rest for game 6, then CC on short rest for game 7.
im saying going into game 5…does it make sense to start aj on short rest at philly vs. lee at home on full rest…and then to have swisher batting 5th, with cano 6th, and a less than average lineup…then tell the phils, if you lose, the yanks celebrate on your homefield…the phillies were gonna win that game no matter what…that’s what the odds say…and that’s what was shown.
now instead of everyone being confident with AJ and andy and even the possibility of CC at home for game 6 and 7…we have to worry about health and short rest.
Wow. Just scrolling through the earlier comments. I think the most asinine comment of the night award goes to “beetle” at 11:51.
Congratulations.
If Gaudin’s pitching Wednesday?
Well that would actually be kind of funny.
I think I’d still be pretty confident.
AJ was on normal rest for game 5 of the ALCS. It was basically the same result as last night.
I don’t think it’s the rest. It’s the game. AJ’s just not a “closer”. We know this now.
Gaudin would be the other option. Mitre isn’t on the roster.
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I know, I was kidding. Girardi makes it seem like he has 5 guys to pick from and just doesn’t know who it will be. There is only 1 option…
And what if A.J. pithced game 6 and he pitched like he did in this game ?
Then you would be angry that he got the start and the Yankees would be playing a game 7. The fact is that Andy and CC are reliable. Even when they don’t have there best stuff they can battle and give there team a chance to win. A.J. can’t, so that’s why it’s better that Andy get the ball in game 6. And the 3 days rest thing is overrated. I saw Carl Pavano do it and he was effective.
At first I was against A.J. pitching but then I didn’t care because I knew that we would win this thing back in New York.
“we were losing game 5 either way…our lineup was awful, our pitcher was on short rest, the phillies had their ace going, and we were in philly where the defending champs had a must win.”
You do not give away games in the World Series. You just don’t. Going into the game, Girardi thought AJ on 3 days rest put the Yankees in a better position to win than Gaudin
on 30 days rest. Anyone who would dispute that is just deluded. Girardi made the correct decision. Unfortunately, it just didn’t work out.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
uh oh its going down
bronx jeers…
were you saying AJ was not a closer after game 2?
that was a huge start. without that, we are done in this series.
stop trying to protect girardi, or make excuses for whoever (if yourself as well) for the idea that starting AJ on short rest was a good idea.
you cant say it would have been the same result, none of us know that…what we do know is that starting a pitcher (especially one such as AJ) on short rest, highly increases the chance of him being hit hard.
and that is what happened.
now andy has that increased chance.
sorry for not feeling warm and cozy inside…the yanks still have the advantage, mainly because their opponents are pedro and hamels, but the uncomfortable feeling would not currently be within me if girardi just threw guadin to the wolves in game 5.
When the Yankees close this out this debate will end. Just be happy that we are up 3-2 and not down 3-2 like the 2003 World Series.
Man I am getting tired. I mean’t to say what if A.J. pitched bad in game 6 like he did tonight ?
I rather be in this situation because you can’t trust A.J. in a real big game.
if AJ got lit up in game 6…then he got lit up…but you have to at least feel short rest and AJ didnt mix well tonight, and i think most of us realized that before the decision was made.
i understand you dont give away wins, but you had a fresh bullpen with aceves and robertson…you could have even pieced it together if gaudin gave you 4 innings, 4 runs.
i think aj on full rest, and andy on full rest gives the team the best chance to win the series…not aj on short rest, andy on short rest, then cc on short rest.
…then i heard someone tell me andy may be hurt…anyone hear this?…
Game 2 was a huge game and AJ came through.
i think you have to put your players in the best position to do their best…and clearly, having both aj and andy on full rest would do just that.
…i hope andy can come through tomorrow, but it is tough expecting that from andy…if he doesnt, i wont blame him…i dont blame aj either…he pitched a great game 2…you cant kill a guy for not performing every time…especially in a situation where the odds were against him.
AJ needs to at least give his team a chance.
I don’t care about the 3 days rest, overblown excuse.
You’re getting paid $82.5 million over 5 years to at least give your team a chance in a clinching game like that…and he did NOTHING.
An absolute joke. CC has gone on 3 days rest, no problem. There is no reason AJ could not give his team a chance. He is so bad.
Pettitte’s track record for starting on 3 days rest is less than stellar. The Yanks better pray he can miraculously pull something out of his you know what. His record on 3 days rest is 4-6 with a 4.15 era and a 1.43 whip…NOT GOOD AT ALL!
Worst feeling of the year wasn’t last night, it was game 4 night. The Yanks were down and Phil Choke was warming in the bullpen. Ten minutes later, the Yankees are ahead and Mariano is ready to finish it. A Miraculous difference.
Coke pitched a ninth inning early in the year and was terrified. After that when ever I saw him come in, I figured it was over.