We have a winner!
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Well, that didn’t take long (though no one thought it would) and we’ve got our winner of a pair of VIP tickets to tomorrow’s parade. I’ll allow the winner to share his identity in the comments if he or she wants to do so (or not, if they don’t). Otherwise, let me just say thank you to everyone who jumped on and entered – according to new boss Sean Mayer in the office, the response was “crazy.” I expected nothing less from you guys.
Also, since I’ve had a few emails from people not from New York, I thought I’d post this link which explains what, exactly, the “Canyon of Heroes” is and where the name came from. You can also check out this page which lists all the ticker-tape parades in New York, starting with the first – an imprompteau gathering to recognize the Statue of Liberty going up. Not bad company for the Yankees, I’d say.
(Looking at that list, which one would have wanted to be at? If the Albert Einstein one seems intriguing to me, does that make me a nerd? Seeing JFK come through the streets would have been pretty spectacular too, I bet …)
UPDATE, 5:45 p.m.: For those coming into the city via train tomorrow, it seems that New Haven Line trains will add cars to existing scheduled trains, while the Harlem Line will add a special train leaving Southeast at 8:30 a.m. and the Hudson Line will add a train leaving Poughkeepsie at 8:41 a.m. Check out the MTA website for more.
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Chad Jennings
Congrats to whoever won
was the winner already contacted? I guess it wasn’t me.
i didn’t see it for 20 min, and judging by the post, you had a lot of responses. 
i guess i can stop watching my email and phone? :/
congrats to the winner
saucy i’m still waiting for the city to call me to tell me I won. I won’t hold my breath though. I don’t know what to do tomorrow. my boss said I could go, but it is going to be so crowded.
Winner: Pet Abe
jennifer, the city? is there another contest i missed out on?
See, even the prizes here are better without Pete.
Instead of getting VIP parade tickets, maybe you’d get a ballpark giveaway Met Life windbreaker he found in his trunk underneath a pile of Big Mac wrappers.
Anyone know where to get some good pics from last night online?
cruuuuud
Seeing Jesse Owens would have been pretty cool.
Have a great time tomorrow!! We’ll be watching out here …. gotta get up early.
Lol @ bob
Sammy Sosa got his own ticker-tape parade?
nice Bob!
Great way for damon and godzilla to exit. Next year bay in left, ajax in center and milton bradley in right. Posada and A-Rod will dh more.
Here’s a thought that just entered my mind. Did the Yanks vote Selena Roberts a playoff share? lol
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
Tom’s tears sustain me.
Tom,
Pretty sure if you win one you will careless how the team was put together…
Whatever keeps you from jumping, Tom.
Tom, yanks have more homegrown players duh
Beer goes better with cheesesteak than whine.
tom how much more money did philly have over tb
Hey Tom, what was the Ray’s payroll last season?
What was the Phillies?
Go buy some cheese(steak) with that whine.
Hey Tom, would $70 mil more have kept Howard from thinking the object of the game was to hit air?
Or have kept Brad Lidge from soiling the bed?
Or make Jimmy Rollins half as good as his overrrated reputation?
Nick, always one joke ahead.
Bob(the original) November 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
See, even the prizes here are better without Pete.
Instead of getting VIP parade tickets, maybe you’d get a ballpark giveaway Met Life windbreaker he found in his trunk underneath a pile of Big Mac wrappers.
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That’s a low blow.
Pete was a bacon/double cheeseburger man
Tom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I finally just got 2 hours of sleep!!!!! I just woke up and had this dread that there was still work to be done!!!!!!
After gathering together my senses, I guess recording the parade is the only work left to be done, oh, and Letterman!!!!
Does it really matter what the haters think today?
The Yanks didn’t break any rules. They won because they were the best team.
Who cares what Yankee haters think. Yanks will always be the most hated team in baseball regardless of their payroll. It’s been that way for 90 years.
Wear it as a badge of honor.
Tom …. didn’t know Cliff Lee came through the Phillies farm?
okay, it’s jump on the troll fun.
hope a regular poster won the vip ticket (and tells us who s/he is)!
Embrace the hate.
It really is just jealousy.
Peter Gammons looked like he was going to vomit last night and I loved every minute of it.
“Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.”
tom (philly fan)-
your argument can be used against the phillies.
the marlins finished only 6 games behind the phillies.
their payroll was 35 million.
the phillies had a payroll more than three times as much.
no way the phillies beat the marlins if they drop down to 35 million.
so you see , your logic is a little off.
the yankees beat the phillies fair and square just like the phillies beat the marlins fair and square.
they all played by the rules.
the best team won.
Am I the only one crazy enough to think i need to get downtown at 6am tomorrow to get a good spot?
yanks have tons of home grown talent on the team unless; jeter, jorge, pettite, mo, chamberlain, hughes, cano, cabrera, robertson, aceves, and others do not count….
i am sure tom does not want to thrwo away the stats of ; ibanez, lee, pedro, werth and all your free agents…………
Giuseppe
Hope you’re doing well and enjoying this.
Kind of ironic that the Yankees are hated by America, when the world views Americans as Americans view the Yankees, and Americans are known as Yankees to the rest of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The joke’s on me, Tom. I drove back to Vallejo to pay homage to our game seven starter but we already won!
This post season has had an underlying food theme for me.
Yankees snacked on Twinkies, munched on Angel food cake, and feasted on Phillies Cheesesteak. Mighty tasty!
Tom November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
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Tom, if there was a salary cap, then the Steinbrenners would simply pocket the profits. Isn’t better for the players to get the dough then the owners?
We’re lucky our owners aren’t greedy – they plow the profits back into the team, instead of their p0ckets.
so who thinks Pettitte will stay or will he retire?
Bob
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Peter Gammons looked like a stiff. After saying Mo has been baseball’s MVP for the last 15 years, he had to throw in the mention of 2001 to him.
Sorry, Peter. If you’re looking for season tickets, I hear that Yankee Stadium has some plans available. Oops, you’ve already got your season tickets to the Sawx
Giuseppe Franco-
good to see that fighting spirit.
you must be feeling better.
Tom November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
If the Yankees were successful in buying championships, then we’d win it every year. Don’t be a hater b/c our organization knows how to market this franchise, and the ownership puts alot back into the team to WIN, period, to WIN the World Series
I think Yanks should have decent chance to sweep WS if they didn’t acquire Lee in July.
Red Sox traded for Hermida
Gammons looked like a little boy sitting next to Dave Winfield.Anybody else notice that????
I got my tix for tomorrow! Game 6 tix+ City Hall tix= very happy yankees fan here!
Tom
November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
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So, do you think that Philadelphia should give back the 2008 trophy because they had Free Agents or release Ibanez and Werth? How about sending Cliff Lee and Moyer back to their last teams because Philadelphia picked over the corpses of Seattle and Cleveland to get those two for nickels on the dollar?
Happy Guy Fawkes Day!
CR9,
I’m progressing. Thanks for asking.
I might be going home within the next 10 days. I’ve been in the hospital for a month now so I’m hopeful.
And yes, I’m absolutely enjoying this. Can’t wait to see the parade when I get home (I gave my nephew specific instructions today to set my TiVo and record it).
Anyone know if Fox 5 will be broadcasting the parade tomorrow?
Thanks.
poor Tom,
doesn’t know what he’s saying, obviously!
This morning, Buster Olney was whining about the disparity in baseball. And he was talking of how young players would be let go or traded and it was a shame.
His main example was Jeremy Hermida.
I wonder if Buster will be upset, now that Hermida was traded to the Red Sox due to previously mentioned Disparity.
” I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today.”
why do people like tom always think that a cap is going to be set at what their favorite team spends ?
red sox fans fall into the same thinking.
if there was a salary cap , it would probably be around 80 million which is probably an average team’s salary right now.
tom’s phillies would not be able to afford both howard and utley.
i personally like to see uber teams playing each other for the worlds series.
it’s better baseball seeing two loaded teams with lots of all stars going head to head than seeing two mediocre teams where the talent is spread over 30 teams
the reason the yankees won: HOPE WEEK. If God wasn’t already a yankees fan after that week he definitely was. Anybody agree?
GF, so you will get to see the parade? Fantastic!
Agreed!!! Hope Week!!!!!!!!!!!!! Help Children!!!!!!!!!!
The best part about this postseason,
little but key production out of Tex, little prod. out of Cano, Swish and we still win.
Tex can break out next year!!!!!
It’s all lining up!
Does anyone know the name of the song that was playing during the final montage after the World Series win?
Tom is right. We won fair and square! With a little help from Manuel’s misguided faith in Pedro.
Hey Im not saying the Yankees arent playing within the rules but be fair- your team monopolized the free agent market in December, and spent their way to the title. The day I see the Yankees win it all with a payroll on an even field as the other teams I will respect them. Until that day comes, and I doubt it ever will, it diminshes what they accomplish. They earned it, but its not as special. Put your money where your mouth is. If your’e that good, cut your payroll by 30-40 million dollars and compete. Only then would I be amazed with what the Yankees accomplish. Ive said all I am going to say, We will probably see you next year and do this again.
Betsy,
Yeah, it looks that way. I just hope he doesn’t foul up my instructions. LOL.
And thank you very much for offering to send me a copy. It is certainly appreciated.
“Amongst the Waves” by Pearl Jam.
Hey, Tom. Tell your wunderkind GM to stop picking up pitchers off the scrap heap. It doesn’t work. And tell Manuel that just because Pedro could handle the Dodgers doesn’t mean it would work against the Yankees or anyone from the American League.
Okay, now I feel kind of bad debating with Tom. He sounds genuinely sad about the whole payroll issue.
Does anyone know the site that tracks the percentage of 40 man roster players that are home grown? I believe the Yankees are 2nd. I’d like to know who is first.
Random thought:
The free agents signed right after the 3 consecutive WS wins, those guys came here and said, basically, “I came to the Yankees to win a ring.” In other words, riding the coattails and assuming it was easy.
Because there have been no WS in the past several years, the free agent signings this past season were different. They recognized that though the mission of the Yankees is to always work toward winning the WS, it is not a given, and they came to actually help work toward that. NO coattails. NO easy ring to complete their careers.
It goes toward a different mind set.
That, plus, they had strong, positive personalities.
And for what it’s worth, the Joe Torre era was effectively gone. It was a new day.
Joe Torre was a great manager, but after a time, a malaise sets in, a set way. I believe last season was transitional for Joe Girardi. It takes time to change a culture.
The Phillies payroll will have to get quite a bit larger or they will lose their core. If these guys keep winning, they will demand more money ….
The Yanks have always had the edge in cold hard cash or signing young talent before other teams could.
The reason why there’s an amateur draft is because of Yankee scouts showing up at kids’ high school graduations with a contract in hand (ie: Mantle).
The rest of baseball is just going to have o deal with it and quit whining.
Tom in N.J,
Thank You
Girardi on WFAN: He wants to wear 28 next season.
via pete
Hope Week is not why the Yankees won. But it added to the very special atmosphere around this team, and I hope they continue to do that in the future.
Doreen,
Remember that crazy winter when Mo, Pettitte, Alex, and Jorge were all free agents. Well, technically Alex wasn’t a free agent.
People flipped out because too many years, too much money? I can’t believe that Jeter, Mo, Jorge, and Jeter have been cornerstones of two different championships 9 years apart. I don’t think people realize how improbable that is. Not only did they get older, but Jeter and Mo got better!
Oops. Forgot to point out that we scooped up all those “free agents” and paid dearly for it. But they wouldn’t be celebrating if they had all went to different corners of the league.
“The Phillies payroll will have to get quite a bit larger or they will lose their core. If these guys keep winning, they will demand more money ….”
Not in 2010, though. Most of their team and their core are already under contract or not yet arbitration eligible:
http://spreadsheets.google.com.....utput=html
Red Sox trade for Jeremy Hermidia…
Damn! Theo stole one of my ideas….i suggested it this afternoon in one of the earlier posts as a good possible replacement for an old Damon…
well
i will give Theo credit he stays working and knows he’s gotta get something done quickly because we’re about to run away and hide from the RED SUX!!!
Since when is life set up where all things are equal? Even in the Soviet Union things weren’t equal and that is what they built their whole propaganda of their ideology on.
Put salary cap in and it means putting in a salary floor. It means a number of owners will sell out because they can’t pocket as much.
It is also not desired by the owners of the teams because it means they will have to open their books and have to spend 50% or more of the mean average of profits on the players. No owner wants their books open to scrutiny.
Tom, what it comes down to is class envy. You envy a team that invests in itself. In the 50’s the Yankees actually had lower payroll and signed players with the lure of them earning their extra money through championships.
People move to NYC to earn more money. That also means more costs.
Know what I would respect? A team like the Phillies spending the same percentage of their profits as the Yankees do. I guarantee you that the owners of the Phillies wouldn’t do it.
So get off your high horse. Successful businesses always invest in their company to remain successful. Other businesses that look only to keep profits coming in at a certain level will be content to remain lower tier.
I can’t go, but I wanted to enter, so that if I won, I could give it to the 28th person, in honor of next year’s Yankees team.
Who ever is going to the parade tomorrow – have a blast!
You never know when the next one will be – and if you’ll be here to enjoy it.
I wish I could go, but work commitments prevent it….
Wahhhhhhhhh my owner won’t spend for a better team, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, crying everywhere in Philadelphia and Boston.
Music to my ears.
Last winter the number of posters on LoHud who didn’t want the Yanks to sign Andy, or who had negative things to say about Andy, really surprised me.
At the time I couldn’t understand it, but in retrospect I think it reflected the number of younger Yankee fans on the blog which either were too young to appreciate Andy during the dynasty years, or who maybe weren’t paying that close attention to the Yanks back then.
One thing that as a Pettitte fan I really enjoyed about the season and the post-season is that it gave those fans an opportunity to understand how great a Yankee Andy was and is.
m
November 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Okay, now I feel kind of bad debating with Tom. He sounds genuinely sad about the whole payroll issue.
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Doesn’t make him right, though. Or less parochial in his opinions. What he’s saying about the Yankees, could easily have been applied to the Phillies last year vs the Rays.
One thing that as a Pettitte fan I really enjoyed about the season and the post-season is that it gave those fans an opportunity to understand how great a Yankee Andy was and is.
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Amen.
m -
I really think that more than being able to sign free agents from other teams, a lot of people are upset by the fact that the Yankees were able to keep that Core 4. That they anted up the money to keep their home grown players who developed into stars.
It is incredible in this day and age of baseball that the Yankees both recognized the “specialness” of those players and made sure they retained their services. It won’t happen in any other organization.
The Bernie Williams situation was quite an upsetting one, because the Yankees don’t “throw away” their core players. It was a tough situation, and one I think they mangled. Bernie could have been held onto for one more year; but then, no other team signed, so what to make of that? I like that the Yankees try to balance sentimentality with practicality. It is one of the most endearing qualities of the Yankees that they really, really try to keep their guys “in the fold.” It’s a fraternity. A true fraternity. It sets the Yankees as an organization apart.
If they let Damon and/or Matsui go, I know it won’t be an easy decision, but a gut-wrenching one. I don’t think that decision’s been made. I firmly believe one will not be made until they have looked at all the options out there. The only way Matsui and Damon are let go is if there is a better alternative. I think there is none, but I don’t have the information the Yankees do.
WYH,
I think there were a lot of people wanted Andy to come back for $6-8M because they thought he stole money the previous 2 seasons. At least that’s the gist I got from their arguments. Some couldn’t forget the HGH revelation. Others were upset about Moose.
Needless to say there are a lot more Pettitte fans this winter than last.
Pearl Jam Amongst the Waves was not the song. I can not for the life of me remember what it was but it is killing me. it was a slow song and it was playing while they recapped all six games showing the highlights of both the Phillies and Yankees. Does anyone have any idea of what i am talking about or am i just losing my mind?
One of the more interesting trades was between KC and the white sox. KC traded Mark Teahan to Chicago for 3rd baseman Josh Fields and 2nd baseman Chris Getz. Josh Fields was supposed to replace Joe Crede and be the next BIG DEAL after hitting 23 homers in 400 at bats a couple of years ago. I really liked what I saw from Getz when NYY played in Chicago this year. Good bat and a really good base runner. He was a real pain in the rear.
It will be interesting to see what KC’s plans will be for Callaspo, their 2nd baseman and 3rd baseman Alex Gordon, their high profile star of the system.
Pearl Jam was definitely one of the songs.
Sox gave up Hunter Jones for Hermida. Francesa will be soooo upset.
One thing that both CC and Andy have is the ability it pitch effectively without their best stuff. They both can bear down and gut it out. Pettitte was a case-study in pitching guts this post season.
The Red Sox absolutely stole Hermida too.
The Marlins should have waited a couple months and shopped him around. There would surely be teams hoping to unlock his potential.
Hermida has disappointed, and isn’t a difference maker, but he’s a quality bench player at the very least.
The Marlins gave him away.
Is Hermida supposed to replace Bay? If so, looks like Boston’s not only raised ticket prices, but are also cut payroll. Looks like a certain Mr. Henry is in need of more dough in his pocket.
Someone refresh my memory about Hermida?
Doreen,
People also don’t realize that a lot of the payroll is tied up with their homegrown guys. CC & Alex notwithstanding, haha.
“Put your money where your mouth is. If your’e that good, cut your payroll by 30-40 million dollars and compete”
tom ( phillies fan)=
the marlins spent about 450 thousand per win.
the phillies spent about 1.2 million per win.
the yankees spent about 2 million per win.
you’re not getting it that the phillies spent way more than the marlins .
why don’t you and the phillies put you money where your mouth is and drop down to their level?
the contest is not to spend the least per win.
if it were the marlins would be the world champions.
i get it that you are disappointed , but your saying that the yankees are doing something that the phillies aren’t. you are saying the yankees spend more money.
well so do the phillies.
your argument is again faulty.
No way Hermida is going to replace Bay.
It may open the door for a JD Drew trade though.
Tom
November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
“Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.”
You forgot the duct tape that held your pitching staff together
“It will be interesting to see what KC’s plans will be for Callaspo, their 2nd baseman and 3rd baseman Alex Gordon, their high profile star of the system.”
Maybe we can get Alex Gordon, so we can replace that choke artist 3B of ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hank: I guess I’m not an idiot, right?
Best quote of the night.
I don’t think that Cashman’s getting outsmarted, the Yankee premium is just way higher. And he’s shown he doesn’t want to part with the prospects. Of course Hunter Jones is crap, but the Marlins would never give us a deal like that. Maybe it’s a kickback for the Hanley Ramirez deal.
“Put your money where your mouth is. If your’e that good, cut your payroll by 30-40 million dollars and compete”
Why? Where in the rules does it say that the Yankees should drop to the spending level of other teams to “validate” anything? If you want to complain, knock on Bud Selig’s office.
You know the haters are losing traction when they regurgitate the payroll argument over and over like a broken record.
m -
That’s exactly true. All the money just gets intermingled. We as Yankees fans don’t consider the new contracts to Jorge, Mo, et al., as free agent signings.
Doreen,
he was a former 1st rd draft pick who was supposed to be great.
he’s shown glimpses of it but has never reached his potential.
He’s a pretty good defensive OF also.
he is a quality bench player for the Sox. I can’t see him breaking teh starting lineup unless there are mid-season injuries.
VEE
I only remeber the PJ song. It was during Fox’s broadcast last night – Amongst the Waves was played as the “outro” music for Fox’s MLB season.
I didn’t have it on FOX all the time time though so there could have been another music number…
Boston Dave – XXVII
November 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
The Red Sox absolutely stole Hermida too.
The Marlins should have waited a couple months and shopped him around. There would surely be teams hoping to unlock his potential.
Hermida has disappointed, and isn’t a difference maker, but he’s a quality bench player at the very least.
The Marlins gave him away.
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You’d better hope that Gammons and Francessa don’t see that Boston stole Hermida. They feel that Hunter is a HOFer-in-waiting.
Where else would Bay go? Unfortunately, his bat and Fenway are a perfect fit for each other.
They feel that ***Hunter jones*** is a HOFer-in-waiting
Thanks Boston Dave. I did recognize the name, but not the details
Hunter Jones is the lesser piece of the trade IMO. He’s the mop up guy in the bullpen for Florida, at best. He has almost zero value.
The Sox gave up a low level reliever, Jose Alvarez, who at least has some promise (1.52 ERA in 12 appearances).
Boston Dave,
What’s the tenor like in Boston? Yawn?
“Where else would Bay go?”
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I’m predicting the west coast – Anaheim, Seattle or San Fran?
the red sox also traded Jose Alvarez in that deal who is the more promising pitcher of the two…Hunter Jones is a lefty bullpen guy, Alvarez is a good looking lefty starter who may be a year away in Florida…he’ll start at AA for them next season….the Sux want Bay back and if he resigns they could always DH Drew more in an effort to keep him on the field more…
I liked Hermidia for us as i still think that he could mature into a Paul O’Neill type bat…oh well
I still like the potential of Rick Ankiel who is a free agent…but please let’s get younger and let Elvis go!
the red sox also traded Jose Alvarez in that deal who is the more promising pitcher of the two…Hunter Jones is a lefty bullpen guy, Alvarez is a good looking lefty starter who may be a year away in Florida…he’ll start at AA for them next season….the Sux want Bay back and if he resigns they could always DH Drew more in an effort to keep him on the field more…
I liked Hermidia for us as i still think that he could mature into a Paul O’Neill type bat…oh well
I still like the potential of Rick Ankiel who is a free agent…but please let’s get younger and let Elvis go!
m,
I’m on my way there from NY right now.
But for the people who have spoken out so far, it’s back to the ridiculous payroll argument.
some Boston fans are saying the apocalypse must be coming…
the Steelers won the Super Bowl, the Lakers won the NBA, and now the Yankees.
not exactly a Boston fan’s dream
doreen-
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=6199
melky is the same age and had a better year in 2009, but heredia looks to have the higher upside from his earlier years.
i’m happy to have melky cheap still.
he’s done what he’s done with the yankees.
there’s something to be said for that.
Interesting, BD. Gammons already has an article on Hermida up on espn. Seems like the Sox want to sign Bay, but he rebuffed their $60M/4yr. deal.
m
November 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Boston Dave,
What’s the tenor like in Boston? Yawn?
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The tenors in Boston are like tenors everywhere else. Some good, some bad. I personally like The Three Tenors, myself.
Alvarez is a starter not a reliever….
take a look at Paul O’Neill’s career stats in Cincinati and get back to me about Hermidia
Hermida will be a free agent after 2011.
it’s highly unlikely that he’ll make an immediate impact if he makes any at all. If he does somehow develop, he’ll be up for grabs then.
Right now, Hermida is just the guy they were hoping Baldelli would be. That’s all.
I’m kind of disappointed that Mr. Henry hasn’t posted a congratulatory Tweet.
Top Ten Reasons Yankees are WS Winners:
1. Steinbrenner Family
2. Cashman and his cast of scouts,etc
3. Girardi, his preparation, and the successful bonding of his players over a game of pool, and the handling of the pitching staff.
4. Return of the new and improved, relaxed A-Rod.
5. Played in the toughest division in baseball, which prepared them for scratching out wins.
6. Had a true Ace, the best reliever, and gold glove caliber defense in the infield, plus two of the top three candidates for MVP.
7. Stayed healthy for the most part after the Nady and A-Rod injuries.
8. Beat the second best team in baseball in the Angels to advance to the WS.Beat the best NL team which was improved over last year
9. Bested the leading saves leader in AL in Fuentes, the 2nd or 3rd best closer in Nathan, and last years best NL closer in Lidge.
10. Never gave Up!!!!!
If Damon shows up on the Letterman show tonight he better give kudos to the bloggers here and especially his PGF-Erica!!!
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And he did all that in the National League? Hmmm….
Thanks for the link.
You’re right. Melky compares favorably, considering the venue.
“Hank: I guess I’m not an idiot, right?
Best quote of the night.”
that was good. i liked that.
but sorry hank.
even an idiot is right sometimes.
you have to do something else right to prove it wasn’t just dumb luck.
“Seems like the Sox want to sign Bay, but he rebuffed their $60M/4yr. deal.”
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That’s why I think Bay goes elsewhere.
I believe the Sox made their top offer to Bay hoping to avoid free agency.
I spoke to Bay about it. He didn’t say much but his demeanor and facial expressions led me to believe he thinks he is moving on to somewhere else. It’s certainly 50/50 at best.
Boston Dave,
LOL. If my streak holds up, there will be great joy in Foxborough this winter!
As for the Red Sox, it’s interesting. There’s still that intensity between the Yankees & Sox, but both teams seem to mix it up with other teams more. The Yankees in part because we weren’t going to get pushed around anymore. The Sox because they players lack class on the field at times (Buckett).
But having won this championship makes me lose all interest in what the Red Sox are doing. Maybe the they lost some wind in their sails?
Anyway, I’ll start obsessing in the spring I guess.
“I’m kind of disappointed that Mr. Henry hasn’t posted a congratulatory Tweet.”
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I wonder if he’d like to revise his “Curse of Mark Teixeira” tweet
Boston Dave
you are sleeping on Hermidia…he’s the type of skillset player the the sabergeeks like Theo and guys up in Beantown love…
IMO he would have been perfect for us in the BX
i love my guys and love me some Leche but Hermidia is and will be the better player he has 30HR potential in his bat
I guess what I’m really trying to say is, all of a sudden, the Red Sox aren’t the “dreaded” Red Sox.
Seriously Off topic, but, the Fort Hood, Texas situation is really a massive tragedy and it could get ugly.
“But having won this championship makes me lose all interest in what the Red Sox are doing. Maybe the they lost some wind in their sails?”
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Barring an Adrian Gonzalez, Felix Hernandez, or Roy Halladay acquisition, there is not much the Sox can do in the immediate future to level the playing field.
Not much sense in worrying about them until April.
I am sure this offseason will be littered with “Red Sox Strike Back” ESPN articles after every single Sox acquisition or signing.
But the fact of the matter is, the Yankees are finally moving in the right direction and everybody else is playing catch up.
i just thought of something funny.
gaudin didn’t pitch in the world series.
not funny to him of course.
he was such an emergency back up that they didn’t use him when they could have in some key relief spots.
GB, I’m watching it right now. Just awful.
Hermedia batted .189 against lefty pitching and struck out 100 times in 428 at bats. No thanks.
If I’m correct Jason Bay as well as Holliday are Boras clients and will not sign in the next 15 days, making them free agents.
Start thinking about another lefty starter if Pettitte decides to retire this winter.
“Boston Dave
you are sleeping on Hermidia…he’s the type of skillset player the the sabergeeks like Theo and guys up in Beantown love…”
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Until proven otherwise, he is another draft bust and a bench player. Potential is great but for players who have been in the league 3+ seasons, at some point it’s only about results.
I certainly would not be surprised if he plays better but he has been given plenty of opportunity and done very little with it.
I suppose at this point he is comparable to Melky with perhaps a little more power, but minus all the clutch hitting.
champ809
November 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Boston Dave
you are sleeping on Hermidia…he’s the type of skillset player the the sabergeeks like Theo and guys up in Beantown love…
IMO he would have been perfect for us in the BX
i love my guys and love me some Leche but Hermidia is and will be the better player he has 30HR potential in his bat
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Hermdia has potential, but, he is a huge strikeout artist. He’s only an average defensive outfielder….about in line with what swisher is, and he doesn’t run the bases especially well.
randy l -
That is very funny! Poor Gaudin. The secret weapon that wasn’t.
(Neither secret nor a weapon.)
Did Girardi really say he wants the number 28? That’s a little arrogant. Well, as arrogant as a humble guy like Girardi can be.
But I feel so bad for him, dealing with his father. I hope that Mr. Girardi’s illness is not too far advanced. And that they can share some special moments of Girardi’s career achievement to date.
“Start thinking about another lefty starter if Pettitte decides to retire this winter.”
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I think Andy knows how good this team is and will be in 2010.
Though he could retire on top, he is a competitor and he knows another championship is there for the taking.
If he were battling injuries, that’s another story. But he was relatively healthy and showed no signs of slowing down.
Tom in N.J.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
GB, I’m watching it right now. Just awful.
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Yeah, I have some friends that are stationed there, and I’ve gotten messages from a couple of them. Still waiting on the others. Communications are impossible right now.
Gaudin had very poor statistics while with the Yankees against lefties. Girardi probably felt him useful in an extra inning game or a blow out.
Speaking of lefties, how about that Marte!
And someone asked way earlier, if Aceves could be the fifth pitcher? I think he could. But only if Joba and Hughes can pitch to a sub 4 ERA as starters.
Tom
November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
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FYI,
9 members of the Phillies 25 man world series roster was home grown talent…
13 members of the Yankees 25 man world series roster was home grown talent. 14 if you include Damaso Marte who actually came up with the Yankees, but was later dealt to Pittsburgh in the Enrique Wilson trade back in 2001…
Your whining has no merit…
I just heard someone on the radio say that the Yankees had an .800 winning percentage when Kate Hudson was in attendance.
Does anyone know if that is actually true????
Boston Dave – XXVII
November 5th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
“Start thinking about another lefty starter if Pettitte decides to retire this winter.”
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I think Andy knows how good this team is and will be in 2010.
Though he could retire on top, he is a competitor and he knows another championship is there for the taking.
If he were battling injuries, that’s another story. But he was relatively healthy and showed no signs of slowing down.
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I think that Pettitte’s decision will be almost solely dependent on his wife’s and kids decision.
Erica – always OPPC
November 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I just heard someone on the radio say that the Yankees had an .800 winning percentage when Kate Hudson was in attendance
Does anyone know if that is actually true????
did Steve sommers say it?
Comparing Hermida to O’Neill is laughable.
It’s not about stats. It’s about talent.
Jeremy Hermida isn’t very good.
He’s always hurt and doesn’t always play hard. Two things never attributed to O’Neill.
Just like with Penny and Smoltz last year, another overvalued trade by the Red Sox.
I think Andy’s decision will be somewhat dependent on how much love the Yankees show him.
His kids are probably getting to an age where they’re doing their own thing (who need’s dad? stage).
It will kill me to see Andy in another uniform.
m
Girardi said he would have to talk to Cashman about the number change.
I got the feeling that he really didn’t think the original number choice through to the natural conclusion (having to change the number upon reaching the championship number). He didn’t sound arrogant when he said it. And he was asked, he didn’t volunteer that he would now be changing his number. He said, more or less, yeah, I guess I should do that. I’ll have to talk to Cash and we’d have to see if Shelley Duncan is willing to give it up.
Twenty Seven
We entered last night at gate four,
the precious tickets in our hands.
The Anthem’s ending drowned in cheers
as we took seats high in the stands.
“Godzilla “had a monster night.
He was a one man wrecking crew.
Pedro couldn’t get him out.
Nothing really he could do.
Here and there the Phillies tried
To stage a rally, beat the best.
But Andy always held them down
while pitching on just three days rest.
When “enter Sandman” starts to play
It’s like a Frank Sinatra score:
Game over for the Phillies’ reign
They weren’t coming back, down four.
A happy meeting at the mound,
once Victorino grounded out
As coaches, players stormed the field
from the first base side dugout.
Flags and pennants, banners wave
And Modell’s opens up the store
Faithful fans behold the prize
Like early Christians filled with awe.
I’d like to see the Yankees enter 2010 with at least 6 possible starters, not counting Wang.
CC
AJ
Andy
Joba
Hughes
Wang
Aceves
Bedard/Sheets/Harden
I’ve yet to hear a team complain that they had too much pitching.
The Red Sox thought they had 7-8 starters last season with Beckett, Lester, Daisuke, Smoltz, Penny, Buchholz, Wakefield.
The Yanks need to avoid the Sergio Mitres, Tim Redding, Sidney Ponson, Scott Ericksons…
Yanks got all dressed up for Letterman
http://www.gettyimages.com/Sea.....pe=image#1
Erica
No Countdown to Opening Day???
Skipping out on your duties???
Erica – always OPPC
November 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I just heard someone on the radio say that the Yankees had an .800 winning percentage when Kate Hudson was in attendance.
Does anyone know if that is actually true????
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That’s a totally unacceptable percentage. What’s her issues, anyway? She’s not good enough to attend every game, home and road? She can’t cheer at 100% volumn 100% all of the time? What a fair-weather fan.
Hermida’s stats are UNimpressive
http://www.baseball-reference......je01.shtml
I wonder why Jason Bay rejected a $60/4yr deal? Who’s gonna offer him a better deal when Holliday and Figgins are available. Plus, teams are still shedding payroll.
“I think that Pettitte’s decision will be almost solely dependent on his wife’s and kids decision.”
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they always say that…
but I wonder how many wives and kids are going to tell a guy that he should stop doing what he loves to do?
if the Yankees respect him with a nice 1yr contract, and they should, I think he’s coming back.
It could be wishful thinking on my part, of course.
Well lets see. If Kate Hudson attended every playoff game that’s 3 against the Twins, 6 for the Angels and 6 for the Phillies, and we won 11 games to win the WS, which is a 73% win rate- therefore she must have skipped a loss!
Pettitte remained healthy this year. He has said some things that lead me to think he wants to come back, but others sound a little like Moose from last year.
I think Damon and Matsui are questions for coming back and is dependent on how long they are looking for. I think their price tags are going down some. If I were to guess I would lean toward Damon being back and Godzilla retiring or going back to Japan.
Damon signing for 2 or 3 years at reduced salary, with the idea he moves to more DH duties.
Tom November 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Philly phan here. You guys won fair and square but keep in mind your payroll was over $70 million dollars more than ours. I suspect if the game was played with a cap, we’d be having a different discussion today. Have fun with the championship you bought. Id rather win one through trades and the farm thank you very much. Hope to see you again next year.
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Go kill yourself, Tom and my worst wishes to you and your POS city. Happiness is the Yankees winning with their well invested resources. Double happiness is watching cowardly, jealous fans like you and the rest of the boorish Philly fanbase fail.
Eat it.
“I wonder why Jason Bay rejected a $60/4yr deal? Who’s gonna offer him a better deal”
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supply and demand.
there are very few impact bats this offseason. there are plenty of teams that need offense.
I think he can find a team to add a 5th year for $75M.
Matt Holliday may set the bar and he is projected to get over $100M for 6 years.
All speculation, but Bay can probably always run back to the Sox if he doesn’t find a better offer.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
November 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Erica – always OPPC
November 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I just heard someone on the radio say that the Yankees had an .800 winning percentage when Kate Hudson was in attendance
Does anyone know if that is actually true????
did Steve sommers say it?
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No. The DJ on CBS 101.1. A very good baseball source I am sure
CR9-
Haven’t had a chance today. Also, I decided we should put off counting down until opening day until after the parade. Lets just celebrate a little longer before we worry about 2010
So.. think Shelly Duncan has any power to stop Girardi from taking his number??? LOL
I think it’s as simple as issuing Shelley a fresh number in the spring. If he gets a spring invite. Or will he be under contract?
“Go kill yourself, Tom”
It’s a game, dude. Calm down.
I’m on cloud nine too, and I hate Rollins and Hamels and Philly fans too. But in a fan way, not in a “go kill yourself” way. I mean, come on.
http://twitter.com/kenTremendous
-You know what’s crazy? The Yankees are so deep, they could let Matsui AND Damon go, plug the holes for a year, and still win 93-95 games.
Hey Wait, I thought you were going to change your name once we won it all.
if girardi’s wearing #27 this year and next year wearing #28 catches on there’s going to be a problem is boston.
if francona wants to wear # 8 , yaz is going to be really ticked off.
#9 is also retired for ted williams. he won’t be ticked off (unless he comes back to life and finds out someday). but still it’s retired.
so francona could wear #10, but that might take another 80 years for the red sox to win the next two so i don’t know if that’s a good idea
There is an article in the Post (not written by me), about “Why the Yanks would be Idiots to let Damon Go”. I would really like to share it with all of you, but I cannot find it online
Wow, I’ve forgotten every time.
New Name: “Wait till we do it all Over Again”
Shoutout to Nick in SF for suggesting it.
i have what may be a stupid question, but why would google earth look down on a military base like fort hood which is what i’m watching on cnn.?
pat November 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Yanks got all dressed up for Letterman
http://www.gettyimages.com/Sea…..pe=image#1
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I hope Jeter doesn’t steal Letterman’s “interns”
“there are very few impact bats this offseason. there are plenty of teams that need offense. ”
After Bay and Holliday[ Carl Crawford's option will be picked up], there’s Matsui and Damon!!
If the Yankees don’t sign Damon and/or Matsui, trust me – somebody will.
Just remembered – Shelley gets a world series ring. NICE!
randy l.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
if girardi’s wearing #27 this year and next year wearing #28 catches on there’s going to be a problem is boston.
if francona wants to wear # 8 , yaz is going to be really ticked off.
#9 is also retired for ted williams. he won’t be ticked off (unless he comes back to life and finds out someday). but still it’s retired.
so francona could wear #10, but that might take another 80 years for the red sox to win the next two so i don’t know if that’s a good idea
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I heard rumors that Francona wanted to be the first ever uniformed person in sport to wear a 4 digit uniform number, because of what you just mentioned. He has requested and been issued the #2010. It’s going to look like a prison number, which, may mean that he has more insight than commonly thought.
GF, you’re very welcome! I will be taping the parade on MLB and YES and listening on the radio……I’d rather see it live, but work must prevail.
I hate talk shows and I never watch them, but I guess I’ll interrupt my Golden Girls viewing to see Andy and co……
I don’t want Bay or Holliday – too much $$ and years. The Yankees have some tough decisions to make. Cash has a chance to completely retool the lineup……..
On MLB, Heyman said the Yankees are pretty interested in Lackey…….
# Laura – “You should know I bleed Blue, but I ain’t a Crip though” November 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
If the Yankees don’t sign Damon and/or Matsui, trust me – somebody will.
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Yeah, but at what price.
I mean, teams are still dealing with the recession. Even Bobby Abreu, who had a GREAT year, decided not to test the market and accept $9 mill, which is still about half of what he made in 2007.
Did you guys hear about the ratings? They were through the roof. They were 39% higher than last year. Sweet!
I wouldn’t like to get Lackey for more than 2 years, frankly.
“On MLB, Heyman said the Yankees are pretty interested in Lackey…….”
Oh God, I hope not. You can kiss that team harmony goodbye. I have a feeling this guy is a horror in the clubhouse. You can tell by how he acted when they made errors behind him.
“Giants’ Lincecum cited for marijuana possession”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Hey, Lackey won a WS in 02′ with the Angels. But no more than 2 years.
“I mean, teams are still dealing with the recession. Even Bobby Abreu, who had a GREAT year, decided not to test the market and accept $9 mill, which is still about half of what he made in 2007.”
I didn’t say that they would be signed for a King’s ransom. I just said they’d get signed. Both performed well in the series. That will draw interest.
“He has requested and been issued the #2010″
gb7-
i love it that the red sox can’t play the number game the way girardi can.
just one more way to annoy them.
Lackey is overrated.
If the yanks are gonna commit alot of resources to a pitcher, they be better off waiting until next novemeber when Doc n Beckett hit the market.
I think that the Yanks resign both Damon for two years at around 7 mil per with incentives and Matsui for one year and a team option for one more at about 6-7 mil per with incentives. Pettitte will follow family wishes and if he resigns, it’ll be around 12 mil and an option with incentives.
I was only joking Erica!!!!
I do not want to think about baseball for at least 1 week!!!!!!!!
To the person who mentioned Hope week, I want another Hope Week next year, or a Hope Month!!!!!!
Laura – “You should know I bleed Blue, but I ain’t a Crip though”
I’m only trying to say that we could resign them at a reasonable rate if the market is dry, the same way Abreu faced a dead market last year.
“Tom in N.J. says:
November 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm
“Giants’ Lincecum cited for marijuana possession”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..index.html”
Didn’t think he’d have any issue w that in the Bay Area
can someone remind me why the parade is on a friday morning down near wallstreet, rather than on the weekend when people don’t work and the kids are off from school. I can’t get out of work, I’m annoyed, and I just can’t make any sense of it…grrrrrrr
I’m so torn. I thought if they won, they could go younger and more athletic.
But Matsui and Damon were both big on the biggest stage, the World Series.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see both of them signed. They love veteran players.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see either/nor signed either. But we need offense from somebody. Anybody.
I absolutely think that teams will want Damon and Matsui. The question remains if Matsui particularly would want to play for another team or go back home. His knees gave him a lot of problems this year, so playing in the field isn’t going to be a likely option for him.
Both have expressed their desire to remain with the team. That could help both sides to come to terms that work.
I think the Yankees are going to be looking to get another starter. While they have Joba and Hughes to possibly start next year, they are question marks. Joba will get his chance to remain a starter, but if he struggles again he will be moved to the pen. Hughes worked as a reliever, but can he be effective as a starter for the full season?
Even if Pettitte comes back they will probably want another arm. Lackey? Eh. I wonder if they would be able to make a deal with the Blue Jays for Halliday. Halliday may also help Burnett and the young arms.
Just imagine…
CC, Halliday, Burnett, Joba/Hughes, Pettitte.
I don’t see the Yankees looking at Beckett, personally. He is good, but has fallen off the last two years. If that keeps up he wouldn’t be worth signing.
randy l.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
“He has requested and been issued the #2010?
gb7-
i love it that the red sox can’t play the number game the way girardi can.
just one more way to annoy them.
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Girardi will have real problems in 4 more years when he wants #32.
Speaking of Ellie Howard, am I alone in seeing a similarity in Ellie Howard and Hideki Matsui, both in ability and citizenship? They were/are two of the most talented/gentlemanly players the Yanks have had since the days of Gehrig, Mattingly, Murcer, Jeter and Hunter notwithstanding.
Did you guys hear about Girardi helping that motorist? What a guy!
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,200432
Lincecum isn’t in big trouble with the police from this. Its a minor charge and was tied to him speeding. He got stopped for speeding and the policeman smelled the weed.
The bigger problem he will face is with the team. Not sure MLB’s stance on it either, but I don’t think it will be a major deal.
the yanks need to get younger.. bye bye to molina replaced by cervelli. for sure either damon or matsui must go.. they need 1 of bat and maybe 1 starter that is it. pen is loaded with young arms. infield is set… melancon will get a chance i nthe pen with robertson getting a larger role.
they need to figure out joba and hughes, starters or pen and settle on it once and for all….
they can manage 1 more yr. with melky and gardner if they get 1 significant bat in the OF. Swsiher i think has 2 more yrs on his deal he is 28 and not bad, think the will learn from the postseason experience… cano is a huge puzzle they are counting on him becoming a big rbi guy and he has not done it yet. he has been in the big leagues for 4 yrs i think and he still cannot hit with RISP and dies not have good AB’s in big spots……
Damon at a bit less than Abreu. Career stats are slightly worse, and slightly worse fielder. $8 million or so per year x 2 looks like the market. Sorry, Boras. Just do the darn deal before the Yankees get too interested in kicking Holliday’s tires. Without the Yankees in play, Damon goes down to $6 million given his declining defensive skills, and lack of market–he is not what the Sox are looking for.
Matsui is interesting. 30/100 guys who are pure DH? What is the comparison, especially given the knee issues at age 36?
m-
Let me help. You want Johnny back. trust me… you do
cano career 217 in the postseason.. 5 yrs in the league. career obp in the 330 range.. he is not improving and appears to have reached his peak…
why can’t a guy who strikes out about 10% of the time do better with RISP?
PittsburghYankeeFan
November 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Damon at a bit less than Abreu. Career stats are slightly worse, and slightly worse fielder. $8 million or so per year x 2 looks like the market. Sorry, Boras. Just do the darn deal before the Yankees get too interested in kicking Holliday’s tires. Without the Yankees in play, Damon goes down to $6 million given his declining defensive skills, and lack of market–he is not what the Sox are looking for.
*****Matsui is interesting. 30/100 guys who are pure DH? What is the comparison, especially given the knee issues at age 36?*****
David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero, Jim Thome.
matsui is better then ortiz if his knees hold up.
He is improving. His OBP was ove 350 this year, he hit 25 HR’s, had a 320 BA, and played a fine second base. My only criticism is is lack of sucess with RISP.
Can’t knock him for a bad playoffs-sample size too small.
There is nothing to figure out with Phil and Joba – the only reason Phil was in the pen this year is because he was throwing well and the Yankees didn’t want to send him back down (once Wang was ready). They could use another pitcher, but I’m not interested in giving up any top prospects for Halladay. I don’t know much about Lackey as a teammate – but I don’t want to pour another 5 years and big $$$ into another SP. I like the pen if Robertson continues to develop and Marte stays healthy. Coke? I’m not a big fan anymore.
There is nothing to figure out with Phil and Joba – the only reason Phil was in the pen this year is because he was throwing well and the Yankees didn’t want to send him back down (once Wang was ready). They could use another pitcher, but I’m not interested in giving up any top prospects for Halladay. I don’t know much about Lackey as a teammate – but I don’t want to pour another 5 years and big $$$ into another SP. I like the pen if Robertson continues to develop and Marte stays healthy. Coke? I’m not a big fan anymore.
“Girardi will have real problems in 4 more years when he wants #32.”
that’d be a great problem to have.
elston howard was a great player .
looking at his baseball reference page noticed he had over 600 at bats as a catcher at age 35. that’s amazing.
http://www.baseball-reference......el01.shtml
Nice entry from Suzyn:
http://www.wfan.com/11-Down.....ntRating=1
Laura, the ratings were through the roof? That’s great – I just love baseball and it pains me when I see it’s showcase get lousy ratings.
stuart a
November 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
cano career 217 in the postseason.. 5 yrs in the league. career obp in the 330 range.. he is not improving and appears to have reached his peak…
why can’t a guy who strikes out about 10% of the time do better with RISP?
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Jorge Posada in thirteen post season years. What’s your point.
Name 5 other 2nd baseman in baseball that had 85 RBI this year or 97 RBI two years ago, with a BA of over .300. You can’t.
going forward cano is key in making up for some lack of production if they lose damon or matsui or both and do not get a big bat to replace.
my main complaint with cano is his BA with RISP. it appears to not be because of small sample size but a real long term issue.. the guy makes contact more then most hitters why can’t he be a little more selective and be more productive. in this lineup he should get 100 rbi’s……
Statement from George:
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p;c_id=nyy
my point on cano is they need more out of him to make up for the outfield deficiency. you cannot expect the older players to increase there output so we need cano to continue to improve and i did see it in the field this year and in his batting average but not in driving in runners and having good ab’s when it is crunch time..
i know cano is top 5 or so 2b but he has the tools to be a real star…
randy l.
November 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
“Girardi will have real problems in 4 more years when he wants #32.”
that’d be a great problem to have.
elston howard was a great player .
looking at his baseball reference page noticed he had over 600 at bats as a catcher at age 35. that’s amazing.
http://www.baseball-reference&.....el01.shtml
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I absolutely loved the things that Ellie Howard could do. He’s probably the most underrated of the Yankee stars of the ’50s and ’60s, possibly ever.
My opinion is that the Yankees ask Pettitte for one more year, and work out something incentive laden with Wang which would get him an arb salary if he meets certain goals.
The market for SPs after 2010 is great, with Halliday, Beckett, Lee, King Felix (among others) coming up.
Lackey, while good, is not what they need right now. If Wang pulls it off, they have something–why not give it a year?
My guess is the rotation come March is CC, AJ, Pettitte, Joba, Hughes. BP is Mo, Marte, Coke, Robertson, Aceves, Gaudin, Bruney with a sprinkling of minor leaguers (Melacon) thrown in as they develop.
By August, Wang’s recovery (or lack thereof) should be apparent. Recovery = Hughes to pen due to inning limits. Lack of recovery = Hughes to pen, with Gaudin taking his starts after August due to innings limits.
In 2010 offseason, go for Lee or Halliday for a 4 year deal, similar to what AJ got. This will replace Pettitte.
Of course, if one of the young guys in the minors becomes a stud, you’ve saved yourself $17 million per year.
Also, if the Yankees win a few more in the next few years, there may be agitation for a salary cap, then all bets are off.
City/Parade Experienced people:
If I take the 5 train to Wall Street? Should I be okay along the parade route there??? I plan to be there around 9
I thought this was a great response to all the Yankee haters and their thought process on this whole salary cap, the Yankees hurt baseball etc etc etc which to me is just plain foolish.
“Bottom line losers is this..there are teams in MLB that make more money in this business then the Yankees, I did not say Revenue I said MONEY! There are richer owners then the Stein’s the difference is investment in your product. The Pohlad family are among the richest wealthiest families in this country so do not tell me they do not have the money to put it back into the players, they choose not to!
What if they did? They would be able to keep their own players, sign free agents and make that team a viable contender every year and win a world series or two… what happens then? The value of the team appreciates and each year and thus maybe one year can have their own network and get a new ballpark, DOH already happening gee wiz, and generate even more money. In other words EXPAND THEIR BRAND!!!!
George S bought the Yankees from CBS in the 70’s for 10 million, they are worth more then 1 billion now, great investment wouldnt you say? How did it get to this you ask? Easy by investing in their team and trying to put the best possible team year in and year out, why, because they are smart business men.
Everyone knows the way to make a profit in owening a sports franchise is by its value appreciating year in and year out, how does that happen? By winning!
Suck on that LOSERS!”
got this off cbssports message boards.
stuart a
November 5th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
my point on cano is they need more out of him to make up for the outfield deficiency. you cannot expect the older players to increase there output so we need cano to continue to improve and i did see it in the field this year and in his batting average but not in driving in runners and having good ab’s when it is crunch time..
i know cano is top 5 or so 2b but he has the tools to be a real star…
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Your myopic views of Robinson Cano is beyond laughable. He had a bad year with hitting with base runners. Look at 2006-2007. By the way….should they scourge and trade Jeter for hitting less than .260 with runners in scoring position?
oops, I did forget Gaudin – is he under contract? I like him a lot……
Here’s the problem with the Thome, Ortiz, Vlad comparison.
Ortiz is way overpaid. That is the Sox problem.
Thome was way overpaid by the White Sox before a trade to the Dodgers. Again, not the Yankees problem.
Vlad is coming on the market now–the same market as Matsui. That is a comparison. Which one gets a contract first?
The supply of FA pitchers is thin.
Here’s the list for this off season.
Brandon Backe HOU
Erik Bedard SEA (B)
Daniel Cabrera ARZ
Bartolo Colon CWS
Jose Contreras COL
Doug Davis ARZ (B)
Justin Duchscherer OAK (B)
Adam Eaton COL
Kelvim Escobar LAA
Jon Garland * LAD (B)
Mike Hampton HOU
Rich Harden CHC (B)
Livan Hernandez WAS
Tim Hudson * ATL
Randy Johnson SF (B)
John Lackey LAA (A)
Braden Looper * MIL (B)
Jason Marquis COL (B)
Brett Myers PHI
Vicente Padilla * LAD (B)
Carl Pavano MIN (B)
Brad Penny SF
Odalis Perez WAS
Andy Pettitte NYY (B)
Joel Pineiro STL (B)
Sidney Ponson KC
Jason Schmidt LAD
John Smoltz STL
Tim Wakefield * BOS (B)
Jarrod Washburn DET
Brandon Webb * ARZ (B)
Todd Wellemeyer STL
Randy Wolf (A)
* – club option for 2010
(A) – projected as Type A free agent
(B) – projected as Type B free agent
Tim Hudson could be interesting, if Atlanta doesn’t exercise
their option.
Bay is getting about market value from the Sox at $60 million/4. I’m sure the arrogance of the Sox FO is standing in the way of a deal getting done.
I would imagine Joba has at least one more full year in the rotation to see if he can rebound.
They didn’t go through all that trouble to get his innings in check (so he can pitch 200 innings next season) just to abort their long term plan if he struggles the first few months of next year.
It’s a long term plan with Joba. They aren’t going to flush that plan down the toilet so soon.
Besides, Joba still struggled in the pen this postseason. His struggles go far beyond his role.
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....y-feeling/
I love reading these recaps!
PYF, they all four were being paid roughly the same amount. They all have the same abilities and limitations. One right handed and three left handed batters. I guess their signings and by whom will depend on what side they need the players to hit from. Two other players that are fast fitting into the DH type player within the next year are Jermaine Dye and Magglio Ordonez.
Giuseppe
Joba has the skills. Four plus pitches = MLB starter.
It is all about his head and desire to stay in shape and improve.
That was always the rap with him, and why the Yankees were able to draft him at a lower position.
With Joba, if his makeup indicates relief (ie, its easier for his ability to train), that’s where he will be.
I agree that they will give him one more full season without an innings limit to see what they have.
The timing is perfect when a lot of starters will be FA at the end of 2010, and the Wang experiment will end one way or the other.
GB
So the market on Matsui will exceed $10 million, if he’s comparable to those guys? Will the Yankees offer him that–I’m not sure.
*Catching up on today’s threads*
Murph – I’m so sorry to hear the news about your dog.
Thats one of the small trade-offs we make with the many joys and blessings of pet ownership – the fact that they live so many less years than we do. 
I am dreading the day I am in your shoes.
She’s a beautiful dog. Wish I’d had the honor of knowing her. I’m glad the Yankees pulled out a win for her and she was able to share your joy.
“It’s not like you can make something instantly,” General Manager Brian Cashman said. “It takes a process.”
Even after they win Cashman’s all “process” this an “process” that.
GreenBeret7-
What was your first world series? Mine was 1976.
new thread –>
“Lackey is overrated.
If the yanks are gonna commit alot of resources to a pitcher, they be better off waiting until next novemeber when Doc n Beckett hit the market.”
Josh Beckett called to say that he’s just as overrated as John Lackey.
http://yes.mlblogs.com/archive.....his_a.html
Burnett had a bad Game 5, really bad, but his Game 2 saved the Yankees from being in deep trouble and a city from near-total panic.
“Nobody can take that away from me,” Burnett said of his 3-1, Game 2 win, his World Series debut. “I had a rough one my last time out, but I had 24 guys in there telling me, ‘You know what, if it wasn’t for you, we’d be coming to Philly in a big hole. I’m glad I could help out and be a part of something this special.”
**This is why I LOVE this team. Instead of letting the poor guy twist in the wind after his bad game 5, his teammates made him feel better about himself.
RAB has recognized our old pal Pete for making one of the dumbest comments of the year – way back on March 25th.
It just so happens that Pete was responding to me after I suggested that the Yanks couldn’t win the WS this season without A-Rod.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-704410
I’m one of those people who believes this blog is far better off now than it was 5 weeks ago.
Better coverage and fewer cheap shots, nonsensical rants, and dead horse beatings.
“my point on cano is they need more out of him to make up for the outfield deficiency.”
Offensively he’s the second best second baseman in the league. He’s the second best second baseman overall too as far as I’m concerned.
Second baseman who hit over .300 and slug over .500 don’t grow on trees.
CD
November 5th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
GreenBeret7-
What was your first world series? Mine was 1976.
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The first one that I remember well was 1955.
thanks betsy for the suzyn article.
how is andy pettitte a type b player?! the guy won each of the series as the starter on the mound.