What’s happening while nothing’s happening
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Saw some questions wondering what’s the point of these meetings.
While members of the media are waiting in the lobby, hoping someone important will walk by, the general managers and assorted staff members are in a room discussing ideas and voting on rules. Each team is allowed to have three people in the room. The only Yankee I’ve seen other than Brian Cashman is scouting director Billy Eppler, but there could be others.
That’s actually the point of the meetings. Put this many GMs in one place, though, and there are bound to be trade talks and plenty of rumor gathering. That’s why the media is here. The actually meetings are a secondary concern. For us, anyway.
UPDATE, 11:51 a.m.: Just to clarify, the media isn’t allowed in the meetings themselves. When they’re over we’ll certainly ask and write about them, but most every writer is primarily here to fish for free agent and trade news. And yes, networking is a big part of this whole thing.
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thanks for this post. can you post a few updates about the actual content of the meetings? i think it would be interesting, even if only to see just how boring it actually is.
or are you not supposed to ask about that?
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....index.html
So funny. You can totally tell Mets fans voted to mess with the voting. 3% say dump Mo.
It seems to me that the point of this meeting, besides voting on rules, is to network and get a feel for what some teams may be looking for. They’re just dipping their toes into the water to see what the temperature is.
I hope that they are voting on Instant Replay.
Who is Cashman sitting next to????
If Damon and Matsui leave here are some interesting names to consider as potential replacements for LH power:
Hank Blaylock – Mostly a DH he can still slug
Griffey Jr. – As noted above, he can play RF a bit and has a great swing for Yankee Stadium – would probably require a very low base if he wants to come on for a championship ride.
Rick Ankiel – Above average defense – strikes out a lot but hits for plenty of power.
Aubrey Huff – another DH though he can also spot guys at 1st, 3rd, and the corner OF spots on occassion.
Randy Winn – not a power option, but a good LF who would be a perfect number 2 hitter behind Jeter if Damon goes.
And if you don’t care about left handed:
Do you take a chance on Andruw Jones on a small deal?
Winn-No Thanks
Griffey-No Thanks
Blaylock-eh
Huff-Maybe
Ankiel-I personally hope not
Hey, aren’t they announcing the Gold Glove winners today? Tex better be on that list or I’m going to go ballistic.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Luxury tax for 2010 is 40% of every dollar above 170M.
According to m, 165M is already committed to 10 players.
Apparently in last nights threads Lackey does not like New York, per poster Dr. Cox.
Attached at the end is a list of potential 2011 FA’s with Carl Crawford and Jason Werth at the top of the outfielder list.
IMHO, the Yankees will not commit $$$$ to another long term contract on a player aged 30 or more, so forget about Holliday, Lackey, Halladay, Bay. Likely to look at players not offered arbitration and therefore nontendered.
Remember, Cameron , Byrd, are righties and if Matsui and Damon are not back, we are losing 50 homers from lefties for 81 games in our short right field porch.
Predict Pettitte will sign 8-9M with incentives to reach 12-13M. If Pettitte retires, IMO we could really use another lefty starter.
Matsui will come back on a one year 8-9M contract, and Damon will be offered some sort of 2 year contract. If Damon doesn’t come back, who hits in the two hole??
Just my humble opinions.
Thoughts??
November 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Luxury tax for 2010 is 40% of every dollar above 170M.
According to m, 165M is already committed to 10 players.
Apparently in last nights threads Lackey does not like New York, per poster Dr. Cox.
Attached at the end is a list of potential 2011 FA’s with Carl Crawford and Jason Werth at the top of the outfielder list.
IMHO, the Yankees will not commit $$$$ to another long term contract on a player aged 30 or more, so forget about Holliday, Lackey, Halladay, Bay. Likely to look at players not offered arbitration and therefore nontendered.
Remember, Cameron , Byrd, are righties and if Matsui and Damon are not back, we are losing 50 homers from lefties for 81 games in our short right field porch.
Predict Pettitte will sign 8-9M with incentives to reach 12-13M. If Pettitte retires, IMO we could really use another lefty starter.
Matsui will come back on a one year 8-9M contract, and Damon will be offered some sort of 2 year contract. If Damon doesn’t come back, who hits in the two hole??
Just my humble opinions.
Thoughts??
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c…..-2011.html
No to washed up, injury prone players!
I hope hte Yanks make a run at Marlon Byrd.
He plays CF and can play the corner spots as well.
The Yanks need 4 capable OF next season.
We witnessed first hand the streaks that Damon, Swisher, and melky go on.
The Yanks need another quality outfielder.
Byrd is the man for the job.
Oh, I forgot.
I had the weirdest dream. Alex was in it and we had an exchange. All I remember is that he was incredibly charming and made me feel like I was the only person in the room (even though it was outdoors). But then it became cloying and creepy.
Boy, that subconscious has a mind of its own!
Winn-No Thanks
Griffey-If he plays anywhere, it will be in SEA
Blaylock-Not impressed
Huff-He did nothing in the postseason
Ankiel-No Thanks.
Chip, your pool of players sucks.
Sorry about the double post on last one-read 1/2 comments.
How did i do that??
subconscience? too lazy to look it up.
melky in lf
gardner/ajax in cf
swish in rf
nady/miranda/montero dh
bring pettitte back
pettitte & nady for 13 million total
payroll at 179 million down from 206 million
a drop of 27 million dollars
we mit be better tem.
Laura – How long ’til Spring Training 2010?
November 10th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Hey, aren’t they announcing the Gold Glove winners today? Tex better be on that list or I’m going to go ballistic.
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Is that today? That’s cool. I’ll join you in going ballistic if Tex doesn’t get one.
Yep AL gold gloves are announced today.
“I had the weirdest dream. Alex was in it and we had an exchange.”
m, I’ve dreamt about Alex before, but it’s nothing that can be printed here.
Chad,
Let us know if you hear anything on Aroldis Chapman.
I would think it’s in his best interests to try and sign quickly before teams start spending out of their limited budgets.
We saw last offseason that the early bird got the worm.
I would think Chapman, considering his inherent risk, would want to wrap up a deal sooner rather than later.
Boston Dave – I agree i like Byrd as well. The only reason i can’t see the Yanks going after him is because Crawford will be a free agent next season.
we might be a better team.
keyboard is fried
bru, I like Nady as much as the next girl, but why would we sign a guy who keeps needing Tommy John surgery?
OK, so Chip and Viper … if I ever spent enough time reading the comment section here I bet I’d find/recognize more … odd … I thought more would turn up on RAB and WW …
If Tex doesn’t win, I’ll be outside MLB offices protesting!
Mike RI,
But Byrd wouldn’t be more than a 3 year commitment and Crawford plays LF.
Sign me up for a more athletic outfield.
I hear the national media types talking a lot about Boston and how much they are going to do this offseason. However, they are looking at the same weak FA class that we are. Any trades for significant players are going to cost them a ton of young prospects, which they have been reluctant to give up.
Beyond that, there is little they can do:
1) They are locked in with an overflow of first/3rd base types, and Vmart at catcher/1st. If Varitek invokes his option, he would be crazy not to, they are locked in there, too.
2) They are locked into 3 outfield spots, and are all but required to sign Bay or Holliday to a big money deal.
3) They would be hard-pressed to make many improvements to their pen.
4) They picked up Wakefield’s option, leaving their rotation pretty much set, though not great. Beckett, Matsuzaka, Lester, and Bucholz will be there as well.
5) DH is locked in, unless they eat Ortiz’ contract, that’s not happening. Better chance of Ortiz eating it, if they leave it out near the postgame spread.
Their only real move is at SS. Not sure who is available, the only guys who would scare me are Jose Reyes, Hanley, or Michael Young. Chances are that they overpay for Scutaro, though, coming off of a career year that he is unlikely to duplicate.
Boston Dave – XXVII
November 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Chad,
Let us know if you hear anything on Aroldis Chapman.
I would think it’s in his best interests to try and sign quickly before teams start spending out of their limited budgets.
We saw last offseason that the early bird got the worm.
I would think Chapman, considering his inherent risk, would want to wrap up a deal sooner rather than later.
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why make the same mistake like igawa
“Boston Dave – I agree i like Byrd as well. The only reason i can’t see the Yanks going after him is because Crawford will be a free agent next season.”
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Mike RI,
I don’t think Byrd on a 2 year deal would prohibit the Yanks from making a run at Crawford.
I’m suggesting they have 4 starter quality OF anyway (if you consider Melky to be a longterm starter).
If Damon comes back on a 1 year deal or even a 2 year deal, the Yanks still would have room for Crawford in a rotating 4-OF system.
Of course, the emergence of AJax could change things… but I always like to play it safe. If AJax is ready, that is just a bonus. I’d rather have abundance than a shortage.
Laura –
Well that’s cause the FA pool sucks.
That said, the more I think about it the more I’m talking myself into Junior (if Matsui leaves) on a 1 year deal with a 4 mil base salary and incentives that could take it up to 9 mil. I think hitting between Alex and Jorge he would see a ton of good pitches and with that stroke he would have no problem depositing them in the RF seats.
I’m also talking myself into either Marlon Byrd or Randy Winn as options if Damon leaves. I’ve always liked Winn and think as a switch-hitter with some pop, good speed, and a fantastic eye he would be a perfect fit between Jeter and Tex.
Of course neither Junior or Winn help the Yankees get any younger.
Byrd I’m not 100% sold on – he went from 10 HR in 2008 to 20 last year and so that raises some eyebrows, but he’s versitile in the OF and a decent all around player
People were shocked that a second TJ was needed especially since he’s not a pitcher.
But my only concern is when will he be ready? I don’t think he’ll be ready in time.
Otherwise, he would be a potential LF if Damon went elsewhere.
Robert (Monrovia, Ca)
How much would the Yankees defense improve if they let Damon walk and signed Mike Cameron to a 1-year deal, moving Melky to left field? How much would their offense suffer?
Rob Neyer (12:48 PM)
Well, who’s going to DH? That’s the question you have to answer. Obviously the defense would be much improved.
Steve (Boston, MA)
Give up on a Joba as a starter? Come on, go look at the struggles of Cliff Lee and Halladay, imagine if their teams had given up on them being starters. That’s just crazy. Joba had almost zero minor league experience and low innings totals. That being said, he posted a 3.58 ERA in his first 110 innings this year, as a 23 year old. Halladay’s era as a 23 year old was over 10. Average starter>>>Great setup man, and Joba has the potential to be better than average.
Rob Neyer (12:27 PM)
I understand all of that, Steve. I’m just saying that if the Yankees have six or seven starters and Chamberlain’s one of them, he’s probably the odd man out.
I heard Jim Bowden on the Sirius MLB channel this morning and he said that his old GM friends are telling him that these meetings have much more trade talk than the GM meetings in the past. he said everyone is telling the media that nothing is going on, but behind the scenes people are busy.
That doesnt mean something will go down today or tomorrow, but it’ll be an interesting couple of months.
GTGGW??
Guess the gold glove winners?
“why make the same mistake like igawa”
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Igawa, IMO, was both a reactionary move (Daisuke) and just an awful scouting job by the Yanks.
If you have newfound faith in the Yankees scouting system, and they feel that Chapman’s potential is legitimate, you cannot let a past mistake block you from taking on new risks (if you have calculated them to be good risks).
If the Yanks let Igawa keep them from making any more international signings (they wouldn’t have Montero), which all carry risk, they’d lose one of their largest advantages over the rest of the league.
“why make the same mistake like igawa”
There was a terrible failure in scouting by the Yankees on Igawa. The consensus is that Chapman has huge potential. Completely different situations. Chapman would be a great signing and I have him #1 on my list of things I hope the Yankees accomplish this winter.
“But my only concern is when will he be ready? I don’t think he’ll be ready in time.”
When do you think he’ll be ready?
1b- Tex
2b Cano
SS Jeter
3b Alex
lf-
cf-
rf-
C- jorge
Crawdaddy,
lol. I’m no expert and have seen zero projections, but he had the surgery last summer? One year for position players? Closer to ASB than spring training. Is that specific enough?
Jennifer.. you can add Melky / Gardner into the CF slot
Regarding pitchers – anyone think taking a shot on Ben Sheets makes sense?
Scouts around baseball all agree that Chapman is 2 or 3 years away from being able to compete at the ML level. He needs to shake off a lot of rust, get a secondary pitch, and build up his arm. That said, I would take the chance on him since I’m worried that Andrew Brackman might not pan out.
Andrew,
I agree.
One of the biggest advantages the Yankees, Sox, and larger market teams have is the ability to take on risks with boom or bust type players, particularly young international players.
Obviously, you expect your scouts to limit that risk, but Igawa never had remotely the potential that Chapman has.
I was originally hearing predictions of a $50M deal for Chapman. Now I’m hearing $20-30M.
For $20-30M and 4-5 years, it’s a no-brainer for me.
“Crawdaddy,
lol. I’m no expert and have seen zero projections, but he had the surgery last summer? One year for position players? Closer to ASB than spring training. Is that specific enough?”
Actually for a position player is more like 6-9 months. I expect Nady back no later than May 1st.
Chip,
Griffey can’t hit anymore, Matsui is way better than him at this point. Plus he may retire, I thought he went to Seattle in the first place to end his career where it started. From CBSsports.com:
“The Mariners say OF Ken Griffey has undergone arthroscopic surgery on his left knee to remove a bone spur. The team says Griffey had the surgery on Monday in Cincinnati and was performed by Dr. Timothy Kremchek. Normal recovery time is four to six weeks. It’s the second time in a year that Griffey has undergone surgery on his left knee. He was limited by the knee at times during the 2009 season. He had it drained on multiple occasions.
Griffey hit .214 this season with 19 homers and 57 RBI in 117 games and was embraced by fans in his return to Seattle. He was a designated hitter for all but the first weeks of the season. Griffey, who turns 40 in November, has not announced whether he will play in 2010. Even if he does, his skills have eroded…”
Just throwing this out there-Rangers and Lackey would be Lackey’s first choice. Ranger ownership in state of change and would need to free up money.
Any chance Josh Hamilton could be pried away from Rangers?
Hit .268 in 336 ab’s and was injured.
You ladies with your Alex dreams!
I had a Yankee dream last night as well. Jeter got the game winning hit for the WS crown.
Kevin Long had doubled before him but had trouble finding his way to 2nd base after he rounded 1st and headed towards CF.
I was on the field of course as an invited “super-fan/coach”.
A while back I had a dream that involved Mark Teixeira and some drug dealers.
Jennifer –
Swish in RF
DH is a question mark.
Though if I could make all the moves I think my team would look like this:
ss – Jeter
LF – Winn
1b – Tex
3b – Alex
DH – Posada
2b – Cano
RF – Swisher
Ca – Benji Molina
CF – Austin Jackson
Mark -
Thanks, hadn’t seen that. So much for that thought.
Well, I like your projection better than mine. An incentive-laced 1-yr. deal would be great. Could be beneficial to both parties.
Cash will need to do his best work this offseason. $165M committed to 10 players ($79M for 3 players alone).
“One of the biggest advantages the Yankees, Sox, and larger market teams have is the ability to take on risks with boom or bust type players, particularly young international players.”
Boston Dave,
But one of the disadvantages is that they can’t unload those bad contracts to anybody else when they don’t work out. That’s why Boston can’t trade Lowell or Ortiz, and we were stuck with Giambi. Those guys all took up ML roster spots, at least Igawa wasn’t creating roster problems, and neither would Chapman if he doesn’t pan out.
I fully expect Jeter, Cano and Tex to all have Gold Gloves by the end of the day.
Don’t be surprised if the Red Sox sign Lackey.
they have money to spend and saw what hte Yankees did with their free agent pitching.
I can see the Sox signing Bay, Lackey, and more.
They barely spent a dime last offseason and have plenty of money in the budget to make a Yankee-type splash.
I just hope the Red Sox fans who said the Yankees “bought their championship” are ready to wear t-shirts labeled “Hypocrite”
“For $20-30M and 4-5 years, it’s a no-brainer for me.”
I would be completely on board with that, as well. This seems like it will come down to Yankees/Red Sox, too, which is unfortunate because the price may end up rising knowing those are the two parties most involved. But either way, signing him is a move for 2011 unless he absolutely flies through the minors, which most of the experts see as unlikely due to how raw he still is. Still, a young left hander who can throw in the upper 90s, that is not in the draft but if he was would probably be a Top 5 pick? The Yankees better be one of the last two teams bidding.
“LF – Winn”
that is not getting younger in the outfield
I would give a GG to Alex too, but I’m not expecting it. It will be a pleasant surprise if he does get one!
Tex 1b
Polanco 2b
Jeter ss
Longoria 3b
Laird c
King Felix P
Jason Bay OF
DeJesus OF
Cuddyer OF
“Boston Dave,
But one of the disadvantages is that they can’t unload those bad contracts to anybody else when they don’t work out. That’s why Boston can’t trade Lowell or Ortiz, and we were stuck with Giambi. ”
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partially true.
The Sox can unload Lowell if it’s just a matter of $. The Yanks could have unloaded Giambi too if they wanted to cover the majority of his deal.
The big difference with those examples is that the players were old and past their prime.
Aroldis is 21, lefthanded with ridiculous potential, and would be one of the top picks in the draft if he were eligible.
If the Yankees could have signed Strasburg, he would have gotten $40-50M.
Now they can sign a guy with comparable potential.
Gold glove winners. My guesses for AL
1B Teixeira
2B Aaron Hill
SS Jeter
3B Evan Longoria
C Joe Mauer
Outfielders- Nick Markakis, after that no clue!
Boston Dave –
1. If Lackey doesn’t care for NY, I can’t see him liking Boston. But who knows.
2. I read a few weeks ago that NESN ratings were down 8% this year. John Henry also has lost money on his financial funds, his alimony, and brand new trophy wife.
3. Boston fans don’t know the meaning of the word “hypocrite”.
Ken Griffey Jr.?
no and he wouldn’t want to
“Winn-No Thanks
Griffey-No Thanks
Blaylock-eh
Huff-Maybe
Ankiel-I personally hope not”
Best argument so far for keeping Matsui. Which of those tomato cans/has-beens would you rather have up than Matsui in Game 6, 2 outs, bases-loaded? Which of them would you trust more to play through minor injuries?
billy eppler seems like he’s paying his dues and gaining experience .
those who aren’t that familiar with him might find this article useful:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03.....gewanted=2
“Any chance Josh Hamilton could be pried away from Rangers?”
He probably could, but his asking price probably won’t match up with a smart decision. From Texas’ point of view, they must get a lot of MLB ready talent in return for maybe the most physically talented player in baseball. But, for the team getting him, he has really only had one great 1/2 season, everything else has been a bit of a disappointment.
And most importantly, he is always just one bad night away from being out of the game forever.
how wild would it be if the Sox tried to sign Damon?!
i highly doubt they will, but WHAT IF?!?!
Harry (MN)
Will there ever be another Mariano Rivera in the MLB? The guy throws one pitch and is simply amazing. Can you give us some closers who you think (in the future) could be top notch closers?
Rob Neyer (12:58 PM)
To me, what distinguishes Rivera isn’t his one pitch or even his brilliant performance; other closers have done similar things. What’s most amazing about Rivera is that he’s been able to sustain his excellence for so many years. And it’s essentially impossible to predict which of today’s young closers will still be dominant at 40.
Erin
I hope you are right w/ your GG picks. If Cano gets one will people finally realize what a great 2B we have?
I think the red sox have to sign someone big to make their fans happy this year…maybe they will take Pedro back.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
November 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
how wild would it be if the Sox tried to sign Damon?!
i highly doubt they will, but WHAT IF?!?!
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Really wish you hadn’t put that thought in my head.
I don’t see the Sox going after Lackey.
I don’t think starting pitching is their biggest need. I heard they were even trying to come to terms with Wakefield.
Don’t pitchers get GGs, too?
or OF
Hunter ichiro Markakis
I could see the Sox going for Lackey. Definitely. Then again, I saw them going for Burnett.
I like Nady but he’s always hurt and a year off can’t have helped his swing.
Start the year with Matsui and Damon and if we need a bat we get one at the deadline.
Absoultely not to long-term, big money for Bay, Holliday, or Timo Figgins.
I HOPE Cano wins.
But I don’t think Robi is beloved by the writers.
Boston Dave,
Yes, Boston has money and motivation to make moves, but who can they get without selling their ML ready prospects? They are looking at the same weak FAs we are.
I know we have had trouble with Lackey in the past, but if this Yankee lineup sees him 4-5 times per year if he goes to Boston, he is going to get smacked around.
Also while Lackey to the Rangers would seem to make sense since he’s a Texan, a story just came out today how the Rangers weren’t going to spend on free agents, but were instead going to explore trades. I also think that they have a ton of starting pitching depth, so it might not make fiscal sense for them to invest a bunch of money in one starter when they may be able to cultivate a stud on their own at much less cost.
m
November 10th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Don’t pitchers get GGs, too?
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They do. I remember Moose getting one last year.
Nobody, I mean nobody talks about the possibility of Lackey going back to the Angels. Strange.
Is Austin Jackson completely out of the question for CF next year?
Even to compete for the job in Spring Training?
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes
November 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
how wild would it be if the Sox tried to sign Damon?!
i highly doubt they will, but WHAT IF?!?!
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I’d have to go back to hating him, and I really like Johnny now so I don’t want to do that
Realistically though, I don’t know if sox fans would want him back. Some of my friends say that its STILL painful to see him playing in a Yankees uniform….
Just out of curiosity…
where and when are the winter meetings being held this year?
Lackey’s not going to Boston – they’re rotation is already full (Beckett, Lester, Dice, Bucholtz, Wake) only way they have room for Lackey is if they move Bucholtz in a trade.
I do like how Theo is trying to convince ‘Tek not to pick up his player option by saying that V-Mart will be the everyday catcher and the back-up will not play often. I think Varitek is smart enough to know that Martinez is awful at catcher and best off playing 1b with Youk at third and Lowell either on the bench or traded (though I can’t imagine a big Mike Lowell market existing). Anyway, Varitek would be nuts to walk away from his player option.
I know Winn doesn’t represent a younger option in LF, but he also wouldn’t need a long term commitment, and fills a need (if Damon leaves) in the number 2 spot in the batting order and I like that combo better than overpaying for Holliday or Bay (though I wouldn’t really mind getting one of them either).
CC is a Dark horse for GG
or OF
Hunter ichiro Markakis
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Markakis, Ichiro for sure. Maybe Wells over Hunter this year?
Joey –
I think it’ll be an open competition between Melky, Jackson and Gardner for CF this spring.
nyp_joelsherman Yankees intend to keep Mitre http://bit.ly/2LWGKU
Uncle Ellsworth,
It doesn’t matter about the writers.
“I HOPE Cano wins.
But I don’t think Robi is beloved by the writers”
From the Rawlings GG site:
“In its first year, only nine professional players received the award. Beginning in 1958, eighteen total players received the honor, one for each position, in both the National and American Leagues. The managers and coaches from the Major Leagues are responsible for selecting the winners prior to the conclusion of the regular season. They may not vote for players from their own club and can only vote for players in their own league.”
Chip
Regarding pitchers – anyone think taking a shot on Ben Sheets makes sense?
Scouts around baseball all agree that Chapman is 2 or 3 years away from being able to compete at the ML level. He needs to shake off a lot of rust, get a secondary pitch, and build up his arm. That said, I would take the chance on him since I’m worried that Andrew Brackman might not pan out.
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you are clearly making this up as scouts around baseball know little to nothing about Chapman….most have only seen him a couple of times in the WBC and there is no consensus about him other than the opinion that he’s a high ceiling talent.
if you are the Yanks looking to make an investment i would think that a 4-5yr deal at 20-25 million for a 21yr old lefty that throws 98-102 is an ivestment you make and is will worth the risk. Even if you decide that you like him better as a reliever he could be the heir apparent to Mo in 2yrs with that much fastball. He could also emerge to be some kinda mix between Randy Johnson and El Duque and combine with Joba and Hughes and CC for the next 5-10 yrs to lead the most dynamic staff in the game.
I think Damon would welcome the chance to go back to Boston. Don’t see Boston doing that though – I think Hermida was brought in as insurance if they can’t keep Bay.
In what world is Marlon Byrd gonna get the long-term contract he was seeking from Texas?
Bobby Abreu got 2 years.
I’d have to guess Abreu is far superior to Byrd and therefore Byrd won’t get anything more than a 1 year deal.
His OBP was .329. He’s 32. He played in a hitter’s ballpark in 2008.
He’s out of his mind.
JoeyA
November 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Is Austin Jackson completely out of the question for CF next year?
Even to compete for the job in Spring Training?
Million Dollar Question
I think the Yanks did not see the improvement at the plate they had hoped for. is this accurate?
but you never know.
It seems like a stretch to see Jackson winning the CF job in Spring Training, especially since the Yankees just won the World Series with the Melky/Gardner two-headed monster. Only if one of those guys gets hurt in the spring does A-Jack have a chance at cracking the opening day roster, I think. But, he will clearly get a long look in ST, and his time is coming in 2010 in terms of his ML debut.
Chip-
Sorry but look at Winn’s 2009 stats and tell us then why he’s a smart choice. NO THANKS!
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/p.....2009/10896
Erin,
Thanks. Here’s an article on the AL GG possiblities. They talk about the pitchers at the very end. Seeing that last part leads me to believe that the voters spend the least time researching the position or they don’t really have a set criteria for it.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
2009
“In its first year, only nine professional players received the award. Beginning in 1958, eighteen total players received the honor, one for each position, in both the National and American Leagues. The managers and coaches from the Major Leagues are responsible for selecting the winners prior to the conclusion of the regular season. They may not vote for players from their own club and can only vote for players in their own league.”
Did I know this and forget it?
soo to quote dumb and dumber “your sayin he’s got a chance”
Champ
I’m not making that up at all – Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, Scouts INC all agree that Chapman is a few years away. Also I don’t know where you’re getting your velo numbers on him but he’s more like 92-94 (still very respectable)
And also your contract number is way way off – look at what the Yankees gave Contreras as a baseline for what Chapman is going to be looking for.
Laura – How long ’til Spring Training 2010?
November 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
bru, I like Nady as much as the next girl, but why would we sign a guy who keeps needing Tommy John surgery?
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i dont know
it is just a possibility that is all
he will get no more than 3 million & can only dh for 1 year
montero might be ready,mauer & crawford are fa next year
maybe cash goes with
melky in lf
ardner/ajax in cf
swish in rf
nady dh
or dh swish & sign an o.f.
many things can happen & cashman doesnt even know yet
cash will see who is available & talk to his scouts & coaches
i have no problem with
melky,gardner/ajax,swish,nady,montero,miranda
miranda kills rh pitching
depends on what scouts say about ajax & montero & how contract talks go with matsui & damon
i dont see cashman going more than a year with damon or sui.
maybe a team option year or mutual option
nobody knows what will happen
is it possible that melky is our lf,ajax/gardner in cf,swish/nady at dh & rf?
sure it is
heyman on wfan today talking hot stove
heating up
just like last year nobody can predict what will happen
all we do is throw every scenario out & most of the time something happens that we dont even see
upstate kate
November 10th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Erin
If Cano gets one will people finally realize what a great 2B we have?
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I certainly hope so.
Rishi,
Not the kind of news we’re waiting for!
I think it’s actually too bad Texas doesn’t have the money for Lackey. Maybe they’ll figure something out.
They got a lot closer to closing the gap last season.
Who knows?
If Seattle can improve again maybe there will be something resembling a race in the AL west.
Winn is old. Don’t want him.
m
November 10th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Rishi,
Not the kind of news we’re waiting for!
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Sorry – it’s the best I’ve got
no one else wants to guess GG winners??
I’m sure Erica won’t mind.
Yeah i’m all set with Winn as well.
Theo concerned about room under the luxury tax?
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....x_pla.html
Rishi
November 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
nyp_joelsherman Yankees intend to keep Mitre http://bit.ly/2LWGKU
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Rishi, can’t get as excited about that one as I did yesterday about Pettitte wanting to return!
Yankee Trader –
Last year was an awful offensive year for the Giants – Winn was batting 3 with Benji Molina in the clean up spot. Look a year earlier; Winn hit .300 with a .370 OBP and 10 HR in a park slightly smaller than Yellowstone. Put him between Derek and Tex and he’s going to see lots of fastballs, have an open hole more often than not between first and second and short porches from both sides of the plate. He’s not going to strike out a lot – which means you can hit and run with him. He can still steal bases and score from first on a double in the gap.
Essentially he’s a switch hitting Johnny Damon.
Texas still has a more-seasoned Derek Holland and Neftali Feliz presumably starting all year to look forward to in 2010, on top of Feldman and still-serviceable Millwood. They have a good team regardless of what happens with Lackey, and being in the race late into last season should help them a lot in 2010. To me the Angels are a team on the decline, Texas is a team on the rise.
Randy, thanks for the Billy Eppler article. The part about scouting Aceves is fascinating:
“Jay puts him on YouTube that night from his hotel in Mexico and hides the name,” Eppler said. “There was a code name we put him under, and he puts in five different clips. I call Mark Newman up: ‘You’re not going to believe this — you want to see him? He’s on video right now. Go to YouTube, type this in, you’ll see five clips.’ That deal ended up working, and we signed a package of players.”
the GG in the outfield will not be Bay(he’s a terrible of’er) nor Cuddyer(you must be related to him to type this) nor DeJesus(who actually is a good of’er)….wake up guy1
it’ll be Tori,Ichiro and Adam Jones
and Placido ain’t winning over Hill or Cano…i say the writers give it to Hill(although i think Robbie deserves it) as the anti-Yankee bias is strong right now with us having “bought a championship”
Sorry, Erin – I figure something is better than nothing and anything is better than working…been reading along (too much going on to actually type/post), but I figure the copy/pasting is good for something
I came here to defend my boy, Patrick. Milton BRadley would be a great fit for the yankees. And it is a FACT that Cashman tried to trade for BRadley before but Torre veto’d it at the time. He is a great player that does a lot of things well. He would also have a great safety net here in New York:
1. Isn’t supposed to be the big bat like in Chicago
2. Played with CC and Swisher before, both are very likeable and friendly guys
3. Joe Girardi’s positive traits include great human empathy and kindness, he can work with bradley
Bradley is a great hitter and a very good defender. He has a career .100 isolated disicpline, which is above average. HE is a switch hitter with power. He plays a solid defense in the OF despite what some of you may think about him forgetting how many outs. Keep in mind half the yankee team has forgotten how many outs there were in a game (Damon, A-rod, Posada)
Some of you are being a bit ridiculous in your ‘psychopath’ accusations. Baseball players are human and Bradley is often the target of insults and racial slurs because opposing teams and fans know it gets in his mind. He was fine under Washington in Texas and for the Padres when he was traded there to be A BIG BAT. It is true he has moved on to other organizations in his career, but much of it was because he was a sought after talent. You don’t play for 7 teams because you are bad at baseball. Texas even wanted him back but had no money.
Rishi,
It’s appreciated at any rate.
Wasn’t there a website that tracked the media and their hotstove predictions?
I know that mlbtr tracks who scoops what. But all I know is that Heyman was driving me nuts last season. He said a lot of things, none of which were right. The Sox will be the active players, he can drive their fans nuts this winter.
Bret -
Winn is a year younger than Damon.
I’m not saying you’re wrong not to want him (you’re more than entitled to your opinion). Just asking if Winn is too old then do you feel the same about Damon?
Rishi
November 10th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Sorry, Erin – I figure something is better than nothing and anything is better than working…been reading along (too much going on to actually type/post), but I figure the copy/pasting is good for something
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Rishi-I agree, I love all of the updates. I just couldn’t muster much enthusiasm for that particular one. lol
“the GG in the outfield will not be Bay(he’s a terrible of’er) nor Cuddyer(you must be related to him to type this) nor DeJesus(who actually is a good of’er)….wake up guy1″
I just did the of real quick (off E and Assist) did you see my updated list its a littl bettter.
But at least I made a full list…
Come on play the game
The guys at baseball america and baseball prospectus have seen Chapman at most once in the WBC and he was throwing 99 and 100 in the classic.These guys do not travel to Cuba so they haven’t not seen him extensively to make accurate predictions.
as far as the contract he will not get Contreras $ as
a-Contreras was a much more accomplished pitcher and therefore a more quantifiable commodity and;
b-the current economic climate is very different
the only reason he gets more than Strasburg is because multiple teams can bid on him.Remember Boras was talking $50mil for Stras and he got $15mil.
i think the number will be $25mil tops for 5 years.imo
Uncle E –
SS: Jeter
3B: Longoria
2B: Hill
1B: Teix
C: Laird
OF: Ichiro, Jones, Markakis
P: Sabathia
“nyp_joelsherman Yankees intend to keep Mitre http://bit.ly/2LWGKU”
And Gaudin. And Aceves. And obviously IPK.
Which should be more than enough evidence to point to the fact that it’s most likely going to be Andy for 1 more season and the rotation work is done for 2010.
CC – AJ- Andy.
Everyone else can compete for the last two spots.
Obviously Joba and Phil are the favorites.
Unless someone’s going to the pen but I think both those guys will get their shot in the rotation next season.
Next off-season looks like that’s the one to get a pitcher.
Lackey’s nice but why waste your harpoons on a tiger shark when you’ve got some great whites on the horizon.
Guess the Gold Glovers?! Erica would be so proud:
C — Mauer
1B — Teixeira
2B — Aaron Hill
3B — Longoria
SS — Elvis Andrus
OF — Carl Crawford
OF — Ichiro
OF — Torii Hunter
P — Mariano Rivera
OF-Crawford, Ichiro, Hunter.
1b-Teix.
2b-Pedroia
3b-Longoria
SS.-Jeter
c-mauer
Greg Maddux is a lock for the GG. They always vote on reputation.
Thanks Ed with 2 FULL entries…. we have game.
ps I’m sticking with my original picks
not my updated of selections
in the last post ,it’s interesting to see how sensitive some people are to anything they perceive as criticism of cashman.
the yankees aren’t a cult.
it really is ok to look at management and question authority.
i can tell on the blog there is going to be a difference of opinion over cashman’s tendency to move towards sabermetric dogma at times.
i don’t believe that’s one of his strong points though he probably does. we saw it at it’s worst when he bet the 2008 season on hughes and kennedy.
he lost that bet, and i really don’t want to see him misread what the reasons were for the success this year and revert back to being too full of himself and his own ideas as he was in 2008.
people are saying how smart it is to have this public and private stance towards what cashman really thinks about players. i think just like the arbitration process where management and a player sit across form each other and the team basically tells the arbitrator all the reasons why the players sucks that downplaying how valuable a player is to a team isn’t a productive way to go.
this has nothing to do with cashman personally. it’s about how management treats people who are part of a successful team.
i do not like seeing yankee management throwing out sabermetric dogma and talking about younger and cheaper when quality veteran players are diminished in value as a result.
this argument has been going on for years and i suspect will continue for years.
as an aside billy eppler is not a stat geek.
Tom – pick a pitcher
Thanks for getting involved guys
Uncle E: could I change my catcher to Mauer? I dont know how I could seriously forgot him.
if not then its fine.
ps not picking a certain position does not disqualify you.
but you should pick all.
Ed – 2009 is the year of the Yanks #27
November 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Uncle E –
SS: Jeter
3B: Longoria
2B: Hill
1B: Teix
C: -Laird- Maurer
OF: Ichiro, Jones, Markakis
P: Sabathia
Uncle, I Can’t think of one. Moose made it so easy.
Hows abaout Roy Halladay??
Tom in N.J.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Uncle, I Can’t think of one. Moose made it so easy.
Hows abaout Roy Halladay??
very good I was gonna pick him
OK, Uncle E, here’s mine:
Guess the Gold Glovers?! Erica would be so proud:
C: Mauer
1B:Teixeira
2B: Cano
3B: Rodriguez
SS: Jeter
OF: Crawford, Markakis, Swisher (a long shot, but I’m going for it
P: Sabathia
How do I feel about Damon?
I want to get younger or as young as possible without sacrificing too much talent and production that helped us win in 2009.
Damon’s old for an outfielder and I wouldn’t offer him more than 1 year since he would be playing LF in a Stadium where that position is as physically demanding as CF in many ballparks.
I want back Pettitte even though he’s old because lefty starters last into the Moyer years unless they’re power pitchers. Andy is not.
I want back Matsui because he’s a DH and even if he misses time or requires extended periods of rest, that situation allows the Yankees to rotate the long-term vets at the DH spot (Jeter, Posada, Arod).
I like Melky in CF and wouldn’t mind if, after 2010, they move him to LF and start Jackson in CF. Should Crawford become a free agent, one of them could obviously be traded away since there’s value there.
Apparently since Moose retired this is the first year that the American League does not have a pitcher in it who previously won the Gold Glove. The only other AL pitcher to win the Gold Glove recently was Johan who is now in the NL. That’s why I guessed Mo. A sort of lifetime achievement award.
How is Matsui not a type A or B FA? Nady is a B and he was out all of 2009?
Thanks Erica
Swish really played well in the second half
d’oh!
thanks ERIN!
alright here we go with the GG’ers
1b-Tex
2b-Cano(my dude)
3b-Longoria(the new Brooks Rob)
SS-Jeter
OF-Tori
OF-Ichiro
OF-Adam Jones
P-King Felix
i’m in
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jerkface
you are right Bradley would be perfect for the team to play in RF and would improve them defensively and offensively but i don’t think Cash goes there because Bradley and control freak like Girardi is a bad bad mix.Girardi would not want him in his clubhouse and he’s going to be feeling himself even more now that he’s a WS winning manager. But he’d be great in the 2 hole behind Jeter and give us another switch hitter
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
November 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Thanks Erica
Swish really played well in the second half
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Think you meant Erin, not Erica, but that’s OK. We’re practically twins as it is.
Joba made the single greatest defensive pitcher play of the season, give him the GG!
He is also the frontrunner for the 2009 Bobblehead Award for shaking off catchers.
Thanks Champ – you look like the front runner
Uncle E: Thank you sooo much.
if you want to strike something its,
Lairdlike this:
LairdMauerUncle-if you’re going to run a blog game shouldn’t you be more draconian?
m-
Pitchers indeed get gold gloves. Just ask Jim Kaat(16) and Greg Maddux (18)
wow…lets try this again: wow
without the asterisks.
Wow lots of Love for Jeter – it would be AWESOME if he won.
“Randy, thanks for the Billy Eppler article. The part about scouting Aceves is fascinating:”
tom in nj-
i found the article awhile ago when eppler’s name cam up on the blog as a talented young guy in management. i think cb or sj44 mentioned him.
the article was great in really giving some insight into behind the scenes stuff like with aceves.
nyp_joelsherman Damon won’t give Yankees discount http://bit.ly/3dy7sl
3 minutes ago from web
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no one tell Erica…
lets this try again:
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
November 10th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
no one else wants to guess GG winners??
I’m sure Erica won’t mind.
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Erica doesn’t mind. Erica would play too, but Erica got in trouble this morning for her internet usage at work. Erica was not really surprised at all by this development….
Good luck to all though… Uncle E, if you need a disciplinarian, I will help later!
I don’t know how you people can even think about some awards game when randy l. is upset with something Brian Cashman said.
This is a time for compassion, not mirth.
Uncle E,
I give up…just google strike html. lol
Oh, randy l, I was just teasing you.
It just seems like you’re so worked up over Cash’s quotes. They really should be taken with a grain of salt, but you’ve seemed to have bought into a salt mine.
Draconian is for the regular season.
randy l -
I don’t mind criticism of Cashman based on what is known, like – taking chances in 2008 on 3 relatively untested starters in the rotation. That’s a fair criticism.
However, what he says for public consumption is certainly not necessarily indicative of the way he conducts his negotiations with players and their agents across the table.
By all accounts, both CC Sabathia and Tex were very impressed with the way Cashman approached their negotiations.
Based on the fact that Cashman did praise Matsui, his production, his value, his success at staying healthy for the year, I cannot imagine that he would be anything but respectful toward him in negotiations. You’re jumping all over one statement that was printed, and ignoring the rest of what he said.
But even after all that, Cashman and Co. may still decide it’s best to move on and allow Matsui to negotiate elsewhere. That does not mean he does not appreciate or respect Matsui. It may not even mean he didn’t want Matsui back – just that terms could not be reached that were acceptable to both sides. Or it could well mean the consensus is that it is better to move on a year too early than a year too late.
But we are never privy to the exact goings on behind closed doors, unless the parties want us to be. So it’s not fair ground for criticism.
And wouldn’t you think that players and agents are “onto” this by now? The posturing? Both sides do it. Matsui did not come out, when asked after winning the World Series, and say that he couldn’t imagine playing anywhere else. He said something to the effect that he likes playing for the Yankees, sure, but we’ll just have to wait and see how things go.
oops C-Mauer
i also want to comment on this idea that the Yanks are going to be doing all this rotating of guys like ARod and Jeter etc.
ARod is going to play 155 games at 3rd base this year(unless he gets injured) and the same with Jeter. Posada will catch 110-120 games as well so you need a primary DH and i for one would prefer in this order;
Matsui(for 1 yr)
Miranda(i think his bat would play big in our park/lineup and he’s signed for 535K with no options left)
Damon(i’d much rather let him go but if he comes back it’s for 1yr and i don’t want him in the field)
You lose Matsui, you lose protection for Alex, unless you’re comfortable with Jorge hitting in the 5 hole…..Mats is the better stick…..
Now, look. Damon took his shot. Should we be upset? No. It’s just negotiations.
And baseball negotiations are mild compared to hold outs in the NFL. Positively civil.
Randy-
It does shed some light on Cashman’s management stlye.
The article said he’s not a scout. Nor his his assistant-Jean Afterman. So he must rely on his scouting department for most player transactions.
Rishi
November 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Steve (Boston, MA)
Give up on a Joba as a starter? Come on, go look at the struggles of Cliff Lee and Halladay, imagine if their teams had given up on them being starters. That’s just crazy. Joba had almost zero minor league experience and low innings totals. That being said, he posted a 3.58 ERA in his first 110 innings this year, as a 23 year old. Halladay’s era as a 23 year old was over 10. Average starter>>>Great setup man, and Joba has the potential to be better than average.
Rob Neyer (12:27 PM)
I understand all of that, Steve. I’m just saying that if the Yankees have six or seven starters and Chamberlain’s one of them, he’s probably the odd man out.
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What is Neyer talking about? What 7 starters will the yankees have? Joba is better than Aceves. Dont give me Hughes because Joba as been a much better starter than Hughes.
“nyp_joelsherman Damon won’t give Yankees discount http://bit.ly/3dy7sl
3 minutes ago from web”
Sounds like someone just got off the phone with Boras.
Tino will sign copies of the new Official Major League Baseball World Series® Film Collection, complimentary with any $500 purchase in the Men’s Store.
What time are GG announced?
Did Betsy, as Karen from Brooklyn, just call Mike Francesa and call him a Mets fan?
Here’s what I think happens. The yanks re sign pertite and matsui to one years deals. Damon turns down the yanks offer and signs a three year deal elsewhere and the Yankees enter the holliday sweepstakes and sign him along about Christmas time. Holliday wants to play for the Yankees and I wouldn’t mind it even if they overpay. He’s a good player and its not my money
Here’s what I think happens. The yanks re sign pertite and matsui to one years deals. Damon turns down the yanks offer and signs a three year deal elsewhere and the Yankees enter the holliday sweepstakes and sign him along about Christmas time. Holliday wants to play for the Yankees and I wouldn’t mind it even if they overpay. He’s a good player and its not my money
It was great knowing you johnny ! ..
Damon has a 30 year old body?
Who’d he kill when he was 4?
Do they offer Damon arbitration?
Haha. Burrowing though a pile of papers and came across an old espn mag, and a picture with the name “Tony Sanchez” caught my eye. Nice looking young man. He has a crew cut and the Pirates jersey looks like a sweater over his collar shirt. Looks like he jumped right out of Leave it to Beaver.
The article is about how 30 is the new 40. Something to think about as we discuss signing older players to multi-year deals….
Johnny wants the Years. 3 years is too much
GG guesses (I didn’t play GTLU all year, but what the heck):
1B: Tex
2B: Polanco
SS: Jeter
3B: Longoria
OF: Hunter
OF: Suzuki
OF: Wells
C: Mauer
P: Hernandez
When are they announcing these things anyway?
“When are they announcing these things anyway?”
I have no idea
thanks for playing
Damon is a Boras client. Boras has all of his clients thinking that they are due some mega contract, regardless of what shape their body is in or how old they are. Damon will come to his senses when he realizes that no one is giving him a 3 year deal.
the Yanks ain’t signing Holliday guys…you’re talking a minimum of 5-7yrs and $100+ mil and Cash ain’t doing that and not for Holliday who strikes me as more of an NL guy…i’d bet he’d do a trade for Bradley before he signs Holliday….
if we wanted to be proactive how about sending the Rays Romine,DRob(ouch) and Dunn for Carl Crawford? the Rays need a catcher and bullpen help and that would be a great pkg for them with Crawford leaving after next season…i’d make that deal and not wait til next season to sign Crawford
Is anyone going to hit better than Matsui in the clutch? No! They have to resign him ! 2 or 3 yrs
This is why Cashman is making comments about being patient and allowing the process to take the necessary steps for completion. If Damon is able to secure a three year contract from some other team then good luck to him because I don’t see the Yankees matching that offer. This isn’t a Posada situation in which securing a good catcher was a necessity and Posada coming off his career year.
Lot of Gold Glove forecasts on here today…
One thing to remember though is that Gold Gloves are basically a meaningless award.
Derek Jeter won three Gold Gloves when his defensive metrics were far below average.
Rafael Palmeiro won the Gold Glove at first base when he was primarily a DH.
The criteria for the awards are baffling. It’s typically a popularity contest.
Want to know who deserves a Gold Glove? Franklin Guettierez, easily the best defensive center fielder in the AL this year – by almost any measure.
He wins and the voters may have actually done their homework.
Maybe Cash will bring excerpts from Torre’s book for the Damon negotiations.
“He wins and the voters may have actually done their homework.”
My guess is that Hunter wins it.
i see a lot of people talking about crawford next year. what makes us believe he will come to the yankees?
“I don’t know how you people can even think about some awards game when randy l. is upset with something Brian Cashman said.”
nick in sf-
there is a very big decision to be made with matsui , damon and pettitte.
the yankees need either a #2 or #3 starter depending whether or not burnett ends up a #2 or a#3.
these must be decided to a large degree by brian cashman.
if you know some way to talk about these issues without talking about cashman let me know.
and nick , you’re not going to let one championship turn you back into a true believer are you?
i notice the blog regressing back towards cashman is god again. i would think you’re beyond that.
there is no easy way to deal with veteran players when they near the end of their careers.
i just think that a win/ win approach of mutual compromise is better.
isn’t that the way pettitte was handled last year?
nothing wrong with how that turned out.
“Maybe Cash will bring excerpts from Torre’s book for the Damon negotiations.”
You are bad, Bronx!:)
“Maybe Cash will bring excerpts from Torre’s book for the Damon negotiations.”
You are bad, Bronx!:)
“i see a lot of people talking about crawford next year. what makes us believe he will come to the yankees?”
That is what you call wishful thinking. My guess is Crawford stays in TB. He seems to really like it there. Poor kid.
Wheres Green Beret today?
He seems to know a great deal about the Yankees minor league system. Can Juan Miranda still play the outfield or is he just 1b/dh type.
who’s going to offer damon three or four years? he’ll primarily be a dh in two years and can’t throw. the yankees can play hardball with him
If you want a really Pro-Active trade how about this:
Texas gets: Joba, Melky, Melancon, Kennedy, Miranda
Yankees get: Josh Hamilton, CJ Wilson
Abreu got 2 years/$18MM, PLUS a vesting option for a THIRD year.
Given that, why would Damon take one year? IMO, it isn’t going to happen.
Damon had the best offensive year in his career last year.
From Cashman’s point of view though, what is the likelihood he can repeat that (low, IMO), and why lock into a multi-year deal with Damon on the basis of that year?
October –
Miranda was never an OF – maybe you’re thinking of Kendry Morales of the Angels?
I agree – Abreu’s contract set the bar for what Damon is likely to ask for (and get) and if that’s the case then I think it is too rich for the Yankees and they’ll move on.
Chip-
Miranda was an outfielder at one point. As far as Morales that is exactly who Miranda does remind me of.
“If you want a really Pro-Active trade how about this:
Texas gets: Joba, Melky, Melancon, Kennedy, Miranda
Yankees get: Josh Hamilton, CJ Wilson”
Man, Chip – I am really glad that you are not the GM of the Yankees.
Hamilton had a crappy year and was injured for most of it. He also fell off the wagon at one point.
Why would we want this guy?
Chip-
Miranda, a first baseman and outfielder, came to the Yankees via Cuba where he …
bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/tag/juan-miranda/
Johnny Damon should work for $1 like Mayor Bloomberg for the love of the team and city
Oh randy, you silly goose, talk away, but when you make a big deal about some vanilla Cashman comments, expect to catch it on here. Those are the rules, I didn’t write ‘em!
“you’re not going to let one championship turn you back into a true believer are you?”
Ha!
Laura –
I like Joba, but let’s face it, he didn’t have a good year, has no clearly defined role with this team and might end up being a short reliever. Essentially I’m suggesting trading two relief pitchers, a back of the rotation starter, a 1b that we have no room for, and Melky for Hamilton – a medium risk high reward player and Wilson who was fantastic as a set up reliever last year for the Rangers.
October -
Thanks – I don’t think though that he ever played OF in the Yankee system. I think sticking him out there would be like when the team signed Travis Lee and tried to make him a RF.
randy
It seems to me Pettitte is the one that made the compromise.
Miranda is a 1b/DH type who is more of a bat than anything but that is exactly what we need right now…he kills rhp and has legit 25-30 homer(he hit the longest hr this season at the Trop 460ft Pena hits somr doozys there too) that would play well in our home stadium,he’s a very good hitter not just a slugger and we have him signed for $535k this year and he’s outta options…i think he’s in Cash’s mix
I know everyone loves home grown players, but have you seen Jackson’s second half? It was not pretty with a low batting average, no power and a ton of strike outs. Give up on him? No, but he is not ready. The word is he struggles with breaking balls. Guess what he’d get in the majors? Bringing him up now will only harm his development.
Uncle E
hope it is not too late
1B Tex
2B Cano
3B Longoria
SS Jeter
OF Suzuki, Hunter Crawford
C Mauer
P Mo
Miranda was never on Ofer he was a 1b in Cuba and we signed him as a 1b as well
Jerkface, great post about Bradley. Unfortunately according to all of the psychics on this blog, Cashman will never consider it because Bradley is a psychopath nutcase, and an unstable angry jerk.
Next time consult the geniuses here on lohud before you even think about a player on another team.
Yup. Andy gave and gave and then some. But that was then, and this is now. He’s got 5 rings and he’d probably do it all over again. In fact, let’s start now!
thanks Kate
Will
November 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Johnny Damon should work for $1 like Mayor Bloomberg for the love of the team and city
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LOL. I think Boras would have a heart attack.
To factual back up my Jackson thought, his OPS post all-star break in AAA was .624. Yikes.
“factually”
It was suggested on the radio as a plan for the Mets, but let me ask you this:
If you’re Brian Cashman, would you take on the contract of Vernon Wells if it would get you Roy Halladay without having to give up any upper level prospects?
Say for example, Wells and Halladay for Melky, Colin Curtis, and Reegie Corona?
Chip-
Yea I remember they advertised him as a 1b/Of but as you said I have never seen him in the outfield. Just wondering if anyone has every seen him play the OF. If he can indeed play OF he might be a suprise sleeper. Not saying he starts 160 games but maybe as a replacement corner outfielder. Let Damon split time with Posada at DH and Miranda can go out to lf when damon isnt in OF. I know he can hit and that lefty bat in Yankee Stadium can do damage. Its just a matter of what he would be like out there. I mean if Soriano learned OF I would hope a sure handed guy like Miranda can as well.
Weren’t Damon’s assets frozen because of some ponzi scheme? Could he need money?
Damon needs to talk to his former teammates(Manny,Veritek) and ask if Boras got for them what he said he could.
The biggest issue with Jackson is that he had an amazingly high batting average for balls put in play. I think it was something like .360 which is nuts, and he struck out a ton.
Those things are what make people question whether his numbers last year would translate well into the majors?
Champ 809-
Outfielder-first baseman signs with Yankees – MLB – ESPN Dec 11, 2006 … The New York Yankees signed Cuban prospect Juan Miranda to a four-year … to place the outfielder-first baseman on their 40-man roster. …
when are we gonna start playing GAMES with Milton Bradley ? Is he too much of a RISK ?
They all need money. But the Damons look like they’re doing okay now judging from that picture of them at the Hard Rock in Vegas.
October -
I’ve seen Cub games – Soriano hasn’t learned the OF – he just stands out there and hopes like hell that the ball finds his glove.
A Yankee scout said thisabout Juan Miranda when he signed: “He is capable of playing the outfield and first base, but his biggest asset is his bat”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp
I saw someone mention yesterday about Christian Garcia. I have searched everywhere looking for info about him myself, and can’t find a thing. Does anyone else have a clue? I know he has been oft injured so I wonder if hes still in the same boat or if hes pitching/pitching in games this year.
Well, everything’s a RISK in LIFE. People need to get a CLUE.
chip-
Very very good point about soriano lol!
Ok then, goodbye Johnny……..The Yankees will move on.
The Yankees never get home town discounts, isn’t that funny?
I think this off-season is going to be much more difficult for Cashman than last year.
The Swisher trade was great but let’s not forget his salary rises substantially over the next two years.
Still he may be worth the 17+ mil over 2010-2011.
And the other moves?
Boardwalk, Park Place and AJ could be …..Marvin Gardens?
I would have had CC at hello.
Texas gets: Joba, Melky, Melancon, Kennedy, Miranda
Yankees get: Josh Hamilton, CJ Wilson
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This is a bad trade proposal. That is way too much to give up for hamilton (dl twice last year?) and 1 pitcher?
i think what happened with AJax in the seconhalf last year is he abandoned his “make contact” approach and started trying to hit homers to please the doubters out there and got himself into a slump…
Having said that he was 22 and dominating the AAA level and that says alot…the power will come as he continues to develop.
he’d be a longshot to make the team right out of spring training but if he starts off at SWB and has a first half like he had last year he’ll be in CF in the BX after the break
The King of Marvin Gardens?
Christina -
Chris Garcia (a guy I had huge hopes for) missed all of last season with injuries. I think it’s fair to say that after missing the better part of the last four years his tenure in baseball is about at an end.
Well, everything’s a RISK in LIFE. People need to get a CLUE.
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LOL !
Tom in NJ-
Thanks. I wonder what it would take to turn capable into solid. Maybe some extra work with O’Neil or Bernie can turn this guy into a legitimate 4th corner outfielder.
Randy, Cashman deserves his props and I don’t think it means we think he’s a god because we’re giving it to him.
If you’re Brian Cashman, would you take on the contract of Vernon Wells if it would get you Roy Halladay without having to give up any upper level prospects
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They would do that in a second. Even though wells has the worst value in history, to get halladay it may be worth it. Maybe being on a winning team will get Wells’ head in the game.
It’s Official. Johnny Damon is a free agent
This is not a good day……
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
i could care less about some stupid tweet from joel sherman on what he thinks damon is about…and besides, why would damon take a discount? he should take the most money he can get..but it reality hes gonna sign for a discount anyplace in comparison to his former contract…no team would give him 13 million a year at his age and with his lack of defensive skills
The Yankees should not have a MONOPOLY on signing free agents..
Tex,
What are the Yankees giving up in that trade?
Hamilton and Joba are both medium risk high reward players for different reasons.
Melky is a fourth or fifth outfielder who is about to reach the point when his contract is going to exceed his production, Kennedy is at best a back of the rotation starter, Miranda is a player without options and no position on the team and Melancon is a pretty decent prospect.
If Damon and the Yankees part company, I think a player like David DeJesus of KC can fill the number two hole nicely as well as provide solid defense in LF.
Christian Garcia had TJ surgery last season…
look at the talent we have rehabbing from injury
Christian Garcia
George Kontos
Dellin Betances
Alan Horne
Wang
Brett Marshall
each one of these guys are all high ceiling front of the rotation type starters who will hopefully regain full health and make noise for us second half of next season
again the amount of high ceiling pitchers that we have in the organization is an embarassment of ritches
SORRY but the 2010 season could go KER PLUNK if we don’t have Andy to CONNECT FOUR
Chip November 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Christina -
Chris Garcia (a guy I had huge hopes for) missed all of last season with injuries. I think it’s fair to say that after missing the better part of the last four years his tenure in baseball is about at an end.
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Thanks Chip, I figured but was still hopefuly for the guy.. I think Eric Duncan will be on his way out also. A nice guy but he just never lived up to his potential.
Melancon, Melky (not a 4th or 5th outfielder) and Joba are all going to contribute here. Hamilton is a risk, and CJ Wilson is just one pitcher.
Kennedy and Miranda i agree will probably not be large contributors (especially Miranda).
But no way you give up Joba, Melancon and Melky (i think melky’s 09′ was better than hamiltons) unless you get something equal back.
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
November 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
SORRY but the 2010 season could go KER PLUNK if we don’t have Andy to CONNECT FOUR
SORRY again I’m on PAR – CHEESY
Uncle Ellsworth (much ado about nothing)
November 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
SORRY but the 2010 season could go KER PLUNK if we don’t have Andy to CONNECT FOUR
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LOL
Erica – always OPPC
November 10th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
It’s Official. Johnny Damon is a free agent
This is not a good day……
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne…..;type=lgns
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Erica, happy thoughts. Hopefully it all works out for him to stay with the Yankees.
Here’s a three team deal (non-Yankee variety)
Cubs get: Vernon Wells, Luis Castillo, Jeremy Reed
Toronto gets: Oliver Perez, Milton Bradley, Angel Pagan
Mets get: Alfonso Soriano, Roy Halladay
Don’t be down Erica.
Remember.
It’s a process.
I’ve gotten mad at Cashman plenty of times. Very recently I didn’t like how they handled Wang and how they handled Andy in the winter.
And anyone can spend money and win. Just ask the fans of the Mets, Tigers, and the Cubs. But he’s our fearless leader (yes, I believe that) and until he is a detriment to the team I’ll continue to trust him.
If there’s a better guy for the job, they haven’t gotten the attention of the Steinbrenners. And for that matter Cashman hasn’t given them a reason to pay attention elsewhere.
And he definitely deserves some recognition for the job he did over the past few years to build the team that just won the world series less than a week ago. Billy Bean? Theo Epstein? Amaro Jr.? Did’t deliver. But Cash did. So he’s the toast of the town and king of the front office hill right now.
Christina -
Sadly I agree with you on Duncan.
With Tex, there’s not hope for Miranda to be a contributor (baring an injury to Tex, I suppose). I will tell you guys this, I saw Miranda play several times this year, and he does have a decent bat. Though his defense isn’t really anything you would write home about.
And what about our Ace in AAA; the great Kei Igawa? Yankees are lucky they can ship their 40 million dollar investment in AAA for the rest of his contract. Not many teams have that luxury. What a huge bust he was.
Cano should be the #2 hitter.
doesnt strike out too much, hits for average. If he can simply get his head straight with RISP, you get :
Jeter
Cano
Tex
Alex
ALL .300+ hitters, except for tex but close and numbers more than make up for .285)
Cashman is an excellent GM.
Halladay and Soriano for
Pagan, Castillo, Reed, and Perez
I can’t see that in a million years….
make that ten million.
Tex -
Melky’s absolutely a fourth or fifth outfielder. He’s going to be in an open competition this spring with Gardner and Jackson for CF. And as I said, he’s approaching a level where his contract is going to bump up well beyond what he’s going to produce at the plate or in the field.
I like Melky, but he’s a spare part. Josh Hamilton is a middle of the order bat with more talent in his pinky than Melky has in his entire body. Yes, Hamilton missed time, yes, Hamilton’s a risk, but you are never going to get a better season from Melky than the one we just got.
MR.OCTOBER
November 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Chip-
Miranda was an outfielder at one point. As far as Morales that is exactly who Miranda does remind me of.
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Mr. O,
I am a huge advocate for Miranda – in that he’s not just a power bat – who can make the baseball travel all night, lol – but can hit for average as well, and go to all fields.
Ironically, I think Miranda is one of those players whose numbers would improve once he got to the majors. He is the only “young,” “unproven” player I would even think about entrusting a DH spot to next season, should we not bring back Hideki-san, because he’s a lefty and he can give you a professional AB without any issues. He was born to hit.
However, I have no recollection of ever hearing that Miranda has played the OF. To me, even the thought is frightening. Where did you see this?
I am very curious. Thanks.
I may be on the short list that believes all Vernon Wells needs to get his numbers back is hope for a title. He is in the black hole of the AL East. On the Yankees, he would be creating that black hole. it would be worth it to get halladay without giving up joba/hughes/ajax/montero/romine.
Obviously that will never happen.
We just have to watch out that Joba doesn’t become HUNGRY, HUNGRY HIPPO over the off-season
chip-
Mets give up castillo, reed, perez, pagan and end up with Soriano and Halladay. Wow Omar would be GM of the century if he could pull that off!!!
i stand corrected as Miranda did play some outfield in Cuba but i know that we signed him as a 1b…i disagree with some of you guys as i think he’s got a real shot to win the primary dh role with the team next season
Boston Dave -
It all comes down to how much the Jays want to move Vernon Wells’s contract.
And the only way Chicago would take that contract is if they are able to unload an equally awful contract in Soriano to balance the contracts and also dump Bradley.
Chip- If I am the Blue Jays, I weep at that deal. Perez and Pagan? Ouch.. Halladay is one of the best pitchers out there. I want to hope they can get more from him than that. Plus they are giving up Vernon Wells too.
I should add that posters across forums told me to calm down about Miranda, because he “can’t hit lefties.”
That was just a matter of time, however, for a bat like that. He eventually not only hit them, but began to crush them. I haven’t looked up his splits lately, and I don’t even care what they say – the bat is money.
the Yanks simply cannot let Damon walk.
He is an integral part of their offense and a perfect fit (pitcher per at bat, built for NYS, speed, etc).
Give him 2/$20 and let’s move on to other needs.
Chip,
I still can’t see it.
why do they need the mets then?
The Mets net Halladay and give up garbage? No chance.
October -
Soriano has one of the three worst contracts in baseball right now (Zito and Wells). The Mets can afford to take on that contract but would only do so if they were getting a stud like Halladay (or Carlos Zambrano if you want to take the third team out of the picture) as well. And even if that was the case, because you’re taking on such a bad contract the Mets wouldn’t be expected to give up much of any value.
Chip i 100% disagree with you about melky. i dont think gardner has much of a chance to start next year either. melky will have a position on our team. AJax may be a mid season away from the Bronx and gardner (well thats a laugher).
First, Gardner has to learn how to swing the bat. Then he can sure up his wild swing. Melky is two years younger than gardner too, and many believe he can get to .280, 20Hrs, 80RBIS… And he is a good outfielder with a strong arm. No way you get anything close to that from gardner…
Tex and Jeter won a GG
bodh-
When Miranda signed he was advertisec as a 1b/of. I just dont know what he was like in the OF and I personally have only seen him at first. Here are just a few sources that list him as 1b/of.
Outfielder-first baseman signs with Yankees – MLB – ESPN Dec 11, 2006 … The New York Yankees signed Cuban prospect Juan Miranda to a four-year … to place the outfielder-first baseman on their 40-man roster. …
Juan Miranda | Bronx Baseball Daily Mar 19, 2009 … September call-up Juan Miranda grounded a ball off Kyle ….. Miranda, a first baseman and outfielder, came to the Yankees via Cuba where he …
bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/tag/juan-miranda/ – Cached – Similar
Is Juan Miranda Doomed to be Traded? | Bleacher Report juan-miranda Miranda, a first baseman and outfielder, came to the Yankees via Cuba where he played on the Cuban National team in 2001 and took part in the …
bleacherreport.com/…/141851-is-juan-miranda-doomed-to-be-traded – Cached – Similar
“i stand corrected as Miranda did play some outfield in Cuba but i know that we signed him as a 1b…i disagree with some of you guys as i think he’s got a real shot to win the primary dh role with the team next season”
And when the Yanks were short a bat a few times this year, exactly how many times was Miranda tapped?
Zero.
With the Yanks, the past is often prologue,
Like others, I’m in the corner for Marlon Byrd. A better option than Hinske and nothing is etched in stone with Carl Crawford.
http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/t....._id=407781
Christina –
As I see it the only way Toronto moves Wells’s awful contract is by packaging him with Halladay (the way the Marlins included Lowell in the Beckett deal) so the choice for Toronto is which is better for the long term future of the club:
A) getting a haul for Roy Halladay – which might not be there (see the Johan Santana trade)
B) getting out from under the contract of Vernon Wells so that you can have payroll flexibility again
I think Toronto would opt for B – they already gave away Alex Rios for nothing last year.
AL Gold Glove winners announced.
champ809
November 10th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
i stand corrected as Miranda did play some outfield in Cuba but i know that we signed him as a 1b…i disagree with some of you guys as i think he’s got a real shot to win the primary dh role with the team next season
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Thanks, champ809.
He probably doesn’t have a shot, because of roster restrictions and the fact that he plays only 1B, and poorly, too. He’s a bit older, and I doubt they even think of him in terms of succeeding Teix when his contract finally runs out.
Raymond Nunez is probably the top candidate for that spot at the moment, although unfortunately, despite plus power, is a RHB.
I would guess that Miranda never sniffing the OF in the minors would mean the Yanks don’t even think he could be hidden there, ala Hinske. Lol.
I DON’T CARE!!! Gimme that bat!
I’d love to see us re-sign Matsui and have Miranda available off the bench as a sometime DH and PH, but I know that’s pie in the sky – as opposed to in the face.
Still, you can never have enough lefty power if you’re the Yanks.
Other than Utley, we had a huge strategic advantage throughout the playoffs, throwing LHP who could neutralize lefties and having a parade of LHB of our own….Never enough of them…..
in discussing johnny damon just now, scott boras mentioned that posada got 4 years, and so will jeter
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So? actually jeter may get 5. Posada is a catcher and there were no better options, plus he came off a year he hit .330+.
Plus Jeter is Jeter. he also hit .330 and gold glove SS.
There are many LFs. Damon has no leverage here.
Chad, You saw Miranda everyday @ SWB. Do you think he is in the NYY plans? I am skeptical, it’s not likely they’ll use a guy with 19 ML ABs to replace Matsui or play the OF. Did he ever play OF in SWB?
LOngo
Jeter Tex
Polanco – stand by
Neil -
I like Byrd but I have some questions – such as how did a guy who never really hit for power all of a sudden become a 20 hr guy?
Also he and Hinske are apples and pears – Byrd would be an everyday player replacing Damon if he left wheras Hinske is a utility player who can back up all four corners (essentially filling the role that was vacated when Swisher was thrust into the everyday lineup because of the Nady injury)
Chad
How about a scouting report on Miranda.
tex and jeter won gold gloves. polanco is good at 2B i guess… poor cano
Congrats to Jeter and Tex. Joel Sheehan saying Andrus was slighted. Hello? Jeter led in 3 defensive categories.
Wave Your Hat
November 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
“i stand corrected as Miranda did play some outfield in Cuba but i know that we signed him as a 1b…i disagree with some of you guys as i think he’s got a real shot to win the primary dh role with the team next season”
And when the Yanks were short a bat a few times this year, exactly how many times was Miranda tapped?
Zero.
With the Yanks, the past is often prologue,
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True, but I believe he was actually out with a back problem at one point when it would have made sense.
But it’s true – as much as I think it flawed – they don’t seem to value him as some of us do.
….Polanco wins GG at 2B.
BTW, someone said Posada isn’t as good protection for ARod as Matsui.
I agree, insofar as catching wears you down and therefore Posada isn’t as fresh as consistently coming to the plate.
However, Posada is certainly capable of making a pitcher who avoids Alex pay. We saw that both he and Matsui did that during the playoffs.
miranda cant hit lefties at all
Regarding Damon, everyone has a starting point. You don’t start at rock bottom. You start by asking for the stars. Asking doesn’t make it so. And Boras saying he’s got a 30-year-old body SURE doesn’t make THAT so. I mean, he had to come out of a WS game with sore calves just a little over a week ago.
No need to worry about all the posturing on either side (yet)
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Jones hunter Ichiro
Miranda would be a nice trade chip. He really doesn’t have a spot on the yanks in the near future with both Teixeira and Swisher on the team.
I dont see Miranda as the yanks DH he is not that good of a hitter. That would be a huge drop off to go from Matsui to Miranda.
(P) Buehrle, (C) Mauer, (1B) Teixeira, (2B) Polanco, (SS) Jeter, (3B) Longoria, (OF) Hunter, Ichiro and A. Jones win AL Gold Gloves.
Chip: I guess that’s what you would have to do then if you are the Jays. Along with revamping the guys in your system since it’s too difficult to compete with teams such as the Red Sox and Yankees; at least in getting free agents.
They had some nice arms come through this past year, but many of the went down with injuries. If it’s something from within, I hope they get it straightened out, though it could just be all fluke injuries that would have happened regardless of how they were handled.
congrats to Jete and Tex on the Gold Gloves! Cano was great w/ the glove all year also
Josh Hamilton is an unbelievable talent and a wonderful story. However, he did lose his sobriety last year. I hope he is clean and sober and will continue to be so. There is that RISK. M, I would rather RISK with Hamilton since his upside is out of sight.
bru
November 10th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
miranda cant hit lefties at all
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That is just not so.
Like I said, haven’t looked at his splits in a while, but he went on an absolute tear after applying himself to get over on lefties.
Guys that good don’t have enduring platoon issues. And he’s that good – at least, with the bat.
Maurer Burghle
Doreen
November 10th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Regarding Damon, everyone has a starting point. You don’t start at rock bottom. You start by asking for the stars. Asking doesn’t make it so. And Boras saying he’s got a 30-year-old body SURE doesn’t make THAT so. I mean, he had to come out of a WS game with sore calves just a little over a week ago.
No need to worry about all the posturing on either side (yet) .
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You have to just ignore what Boras says. Abreu just signed a 2 year deal for 19 million. I doubt any team would offer Damon anything more than that. I still see the yanks signing him to a 1-2 year deal.
i see a trade for a cf,corner o.f. & or pitcher
we have a ton of kids that have no home
kennedy,miranda,cervelli & a ton of others
if montero can catch cervelli is gone
his value is through the roof
the fa available are not good so we either wait or make a trade
i can see either or both
7789
November 10th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Miranda would be a nice trade chip. He really doesn’t have a spot on the yanks in the near future with both Teixeira and Swisher on the team.
I dont see Miranda as the yanks DH he is not that good of a hitter. That would be a huge drop off to go from Matsui to Miranda.
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He wouldn’t at all be nice trade chip – he’s not exactly heralded: and what makes you so sure he wouldn’t be a very productive DH?
I’ve seen a good deal of him – and what I’ve seen tells me completely otherwise: I’d predict studhood – especially at home.
That said, I would prefer Matsui.
BTW: Miranda vs. .291/.367/.507 vs LHP in 148 AB
.286/.369/.492 vs. RHP in 315 AB
So much for that.
champ809
November 10th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
alright here we go with the GG’ers
1b-Tex
2b-Cano(my dude)WRONG
3b-Longoria(the new Brooks Rob)
SS-Jeter
OF-Tori
OF-Ichiro
OF-Adam Jones
P-King Felix WRONG
c Mauer
GG guesses (I didn’t play GTLU all year, but what the heck):
1B: Tex
2B: Polanco
SS: Jeter
3B: Longoria
OF: Hunter
OF: Suzuki
OF: Wells WRONG
C: Mauer
P: Hernandez WRONG
WE have a tie!
Boston Dave – XXVII
November 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
the Yanks simply cannot let Damon walk.
He is an integral part of their offense and a perfect fit (pitcher per at bat, built for NYS, speed, etc).
Give him 2/$20 and let’s move on to other needs
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not only can they
they will if he wants to much
as much as you say we cant let him go we cant overpay him in years or money
a 24 hr/85 rbi lf with absolutely no arm & can only play 150 games at best is replaceable
Yay! Beginners luck!
Wow pretty awful choices for gold gloves
And when the Yanks were short a bat a few times this year, exactly how many times was Miranda tapped?
Zero.
With the Yanks, the past is often prologue,
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when exactly were the Yanks short a bat?
in fact at one point in June the Yanks thought Matsui was going to have to go on the DL and Miranda was going to get the callup….
whoever says he can’t hit knows nothing about him…
as far as his age he’s 26yrs old and if you are going to post about him at least read his bio….you’ll find that everywhere he’s played he’s been an all star primarily for his bat.
the idea is that you guys don’t trust the talent evaluaters that the Yanks have in player development and the funny thing is all that we’ve done recently is hit on the guys that we’ve brought up and given an opportunity to Cano,Wang,DRob,Melky,Cervelli etc..
i actually find it comical how high many people are on a guy like Ramiro Pena but how dismissive of Miranda many… are it’s a joke really Miranda hit .290 last year .315 after the break was third in the IL in rbis’ and 2nd in hrs and that’s hitting behind Shelly who drove in 99rbis…
based on his production he’s demonstrated that if given a shot he could probably adequately replace Matsui’s bat and the perception that “he can’t hit LHP” is the last hole in his game that he seems to have improved…what is not debatable is that he murders LHP and is a guy that has a very good eye and does not strike out much that would hit bombs into the upper decks and bleachers a Yankee Stadium…
for those who want a scouting report on Miranda go to the Yankees official website then to roster and pull up Miranda and read his yearly bio highlights beginning with ‘07 up to ‘09 season and read his accomplishments
i meant murders RHP although he did hit LHP slightly better than righties this past season
Juan Miranda’s 2008 highlights
Batted .400 (4-for-10) with 1 double and 1 RBI in five games (three starts at 1B) with the Yankees as a September callup in his first Major League action. … Reached base safely in four of his five games. … The left-handed hitter doubled in his only at-bat vs. a left-handed pitcher on Sept. 24 at Toronto (Jesse Carlson). … Was promoted from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre on Sept. 17. … Made his Major League debut in Sept. 18 win vs. Chicago (AL), starting at 1B and going 0-for-2 with 1 R and 2 BB. … Became the 15th Cuban-born player to appear in a game with the Yankees. … Was one of three Yankees to make their Major League debut in the Sept. 18 game (also Cervelli and Sanchez). … According to the Elias Sports Bureau, was the first time three different Yankees made their debut in the same game since March 31, 2003 when Hideki Matsui, Jose Contreras and Jason Anderson each debuted in the Yankees’ 8-4 win at Toronto. … Made his second Major League start in Sept. 24 win at Toronto, going 2-for-4 with 1 double. … Collected his first Major League hit with a fourth-inning single off A.J. Burnett. … Recorded his first Major League RBI in Sept. 28 (Game 2) loss at Boston with a ninth-inning sacrifice fly. … Batted .287 (102-for-356) in 99 games with Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, with 22 doubles, 12 HR, 52 RBIs and 55 BB. … Ranked fifth in the International League with a .384 on-base percentage. … Ranked second on the team with 102 H. … Committed just 5 E in 670 total chances at 1B (.993 fielding percentage) with Scranton/WB. … Hit .332 (79-for-228) with 10 HR vs. right-handed pitchers. … Was placed on the disabled list twice with a right shoulder strain (April 30-May 12 and May 19-June 16). … Hit .356 (21-for-59) in the month of June, with 7 doubles and 10 RBIs in 14 G. … Hit safely in a team season-high 13 straight games from July 28-Aug. 9, batting .388 (19-for-49) over the stretch with 5 doubles, 2 HR and 9 RBIs. … Batted .265 (9-for-34) with a league-high 11 RBIs in eight postseason games for the International League-champion SWB Yankees. … Homered and drove in a single-game postseason franchise-record six runs in SWB’s 20-2 win on Sept. 12 vs. Durham to clinch the IL title. … Batted .301 (22-for-73) with 14 R, 7 doubles, 2 triples, 5 HR and 20 RBIs in 19 games with the Peoria Javelinas of the Arizona Fall League. … Did not commit an error in nine starts at 1B (81 TC).
Juan Miranda’s 2007 highlights(his first season in the states after 2 yrs out of baseball)
Combined to hit .265 (118-for-446) with 64R, 34 doubles, 16HR and 96RBI in 122 games with Class A Advanced Tampa and Double-A Trenton…ranked first among all Yankees farmhands in RBI and fourth in HR…collected 10 sacrifice flies, tying for fourth-most among all Minor Leaguers…batted .317 with runners in scoring position (44-for-139, 7HR, 78RBI)…began the season with Tampa, batting .264 (66-for-250) with 35R, 9HR and 50RBI in 67 games…hit .284 (52-for-183) off right-handers…was tied for third among Florida State League first basemen (min: 500TC) with a .991 fielding percentage (5E, 566TC)…recorded his first career multi-home run game on 5/24 at Vero Beach with a pair of two-run homers…beginning with that game, fashioned a 15-game hitting streak from 5/24-6/10, batting .426 (23-for-54) with 12R, 9 doubles, 1 triple, 4HR, 22RBI, 8BB and six multi-hit games during the stretch…drove in at least one run in 13 of those games, including nine straight from 5/31-6/10…the team went 12-3 during his hitting streak…was promoted to Double-A Trenton on 6/22 and hit .265 (52-for-196) with 29R, 7HR and46RBI in 55 games…drove in an organization-high 27R in 25 July games…helped lead Trenton to its ninth straight win on 7/8 at Harrisburg, hitting his first career grand slam off Jerome Williams and establishing a career-high 5RBI…also recorded with 5RBI on 8/9 at Binghamton…hit in eight straight games from 7/18-25, collecting 5 doubles and 10RBI while batting .393 (11-for-28)…appeared in two postseason games with Trenton, batting .250 (2-for-8) with 1R, 1 double, 1RBI and 1HBP…played for the Peoria Javelinas of the Arizona Fall League, hitting .295 (23-for-78) with 16R, 5 doubles and 5HR in 22 games…led the league, averaging a home run every 15.6AB,tied for fourth with 5HR, placed fifth in on-base percentage (.423), tied for fifth in RBI (17),ranked sixth in slugging percentage (.551) and tied for seventh with 16BB…was named to the 2007 Arizona Fall League Top Prospects Team.
Awards/Honors:
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04/13/2009 INT Player of the Week
11/30/2007 AFL All-Prospect Team
1. Sign atleast 2 pitchers via trade or free agent.
· Andy Pettite – if he doesn’t retire
· Doug Davis – I think he will be cheap
· Rich Harden – injury prone, but he is good
· Jason Marquis – cheap
· Justin Duchscherer – cheap
· Jon Garland – cheap
· Randy Wolf – I think he will not seek long term so that’s good
· TRADE for ROY HALLADAY
· TRADE for MATT CAIN
· TRADE for JOSH JOHNSON
*1st half JOBA, 2nd half WANG then put Joba @ the pen
2. Revamp the Outfield.
· Johnny Damon – LF sometimes DH
· Jermain Dye – RF
· Jason Bay – if he comes cheap, LF (doubt it though)
· Rick Ankiel – CF
· Chone Figgins – sign him to play LF
· Mike Cameron – 1 year deal is good..
· Randy Winn – 1 year
· TRADE for MATT KEMP
3. DH scenario.
· Hideki Matsui – if he resigns
· Johnny Damon – if he resigns, and we get another outfielder.
· Aubrey Huff – cheap, plays 1b/3b too
· Nick Johnson – cheap
· Jim Thome – he has a power bat, good to protect A-rod
4. Bench.
· Jerry Hairston Jr. – very good bench player
· Jose Molina – good catcher to back up Posada
· Gregg Zaun – backup Posada
· Mark Derosa – cheap
· Joe Crede – injury prone but has a good power bat
· Miguel Olivo – good backup for Posada
* if we didn’t get a backup for Posada just brink up Cervelli
5. Bullpen.
· Rafael Soriano – can set up MO, if Hughes fails
· Kevin Gregg